#lore-discussion-spoilers

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lethal stump
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theres 1 in forest and 2 in wasteland, with 3 in prairie (sanctuary isles)

dense umbra
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Why are they so significant that we have so many statues even new season, a wall drawing and a bird in the entrance in valley

lethal stump
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im thinking something related to megabird :3

hushed steeple
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The bird is from old beta

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Back in beta it used to gives us quests as far I know

dense umbra
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I know but there is something about birds we're missing

hushed steeple
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Aaa?

dense umbra
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Like what meaning do they hold

lethal stump
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they were probably holy animals to the ancestors

dense umbra
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Or significance

lethal stump
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seeing them as earthly representations of megabird

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or something along that line

hushed steeple
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A bird fact I know.. that in old beta when you starts playing, a bird guides you thru isle and it turns into wing light later and gives you cape

dense umbra
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OwO

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They removed it?

hushed steeple
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Ye
Long ago

west fiber
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Whenever my friend takes me there, they always deep bow in front of it tho

lethal stump
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that’s between you and your friend lol

west fiber
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idkk

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they do it every time

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and im so confused

lethal stump
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ask them then

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we can’t answer that for you

dense umbra
lethal stump
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those aren’t birds per se
they tend to be a catch-all for light creatures

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sometimes they’re mantas, sometimes birds, sometimes it’s unclear

hushed steeple
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Look carefully i think those are manta

dense umbra
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Idk they're a little too smal

hushed steeple
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It's the same bell we see in isle and prairie i think

dense umbra
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But it doesn't call mantas nor birds here tho

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Or am i wrong?

lethal stump
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in forest ? it calls jellies

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bells call light creatures in general

sullen cave
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do the elders have any names at all?

lethal stump
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yes !

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well, fanon ones

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but no canon names

sullen cave
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ah alright

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so what are the fanon ones called then

lethal stump
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Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince/Not Corrupt King: Alef (א)
Corrupt King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.

sullen cave
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woah those are some cool names

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thanks for telling me

lethal stump
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no problem

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say, are you new to lore chat ?

sullen cave
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yup

lethal stump
signal cave
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I feel like I’ve seen all the elders names used a few times but never Lamed pThink

lethal stump
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we don’t talk much about her, sadly

dense umbra
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& the devs called it skyscrit so...

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Might lead to something

spring blaze
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howd they get the nunbers pEyes

lethal stump
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oh, thats just to order them

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i dont thinj they actually correspond to numbers

dense umbra
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Ya those numbers don't mean anything

spring blaze
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ah

dense umbra
lethal stump
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i can smell the jpeg compression

dense umbra
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XD

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You can google it for different writings

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This is too pixely

restive ember
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Can i hop in on a topic or no?

lethal stump
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go ahead

dense umbra
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Sure

restive ember
lethal stump
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that’s an anchor

restive ember
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Are you sure?

lethal stump
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yes

restive ember
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Poop

lethal stump
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aaaaand im gone

dense umbra
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Lol I actually gotta go see you

inner comet
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Oof havent been here for a while

lethal stump
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i just watched a video about atlantis and realized how similar sky and atlantis are

sacred rapids
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I'm listening

lethal stump
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  1. had some cool magical resource that made them really powerful
  2. hubris. hubris everywhere
  3. collapsing because of overuse of that magic resource and the decadence and hubris that came with it
  4. now a dead, abandoned civilization in a very hard-to-reach place
sacred rapids
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and looking at the spirits outfits they seem to be based on a greekish design

lethal stump
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ah yes, stereotypical atlantis

sacred rapids
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exactly

lethal stump
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technically atlantis wasn’t a greek civilization, in the original legend it was egyptian or some variation thereof

sacred rapids
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oh

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looks like I need to do some research myself

lethal stump
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but hey, popular culture prefers the greek interpretation lol

sacred rapids
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I think a while ago I compared sky to Atlantis from the disney movie because of the white hair

earnest vapor
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Lol

sacred rapids
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which reminds me I need to watch it again

earnest vapor
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So what do you guys think of the cheering when u begin a race in valley? Some say it’s from spirits, but it looks empty and we can see the spirits.

lethal stump
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I think it’s part of our memories (part of the col = prince = king = us theory)

sacred rapids
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it's mhagic

earnest vapor
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I refuse to settle for “it’s just SFX”

hushed steeple
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Does anyone else get Laputa:Castle in the Sky vibes from Sky (and especially Vault?)

lethal stump
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I’ve never heard of that lol

sacred rapids
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....same

hushed steeple
sacred rapids
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do enlighten us

hushed steeple
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It’s an animated Japanese film by Hayao Miyazaki, Studio Gibhli
The glow crystals (and floating) and the giant engraved cubes feel very reminiscent of the movie

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Um oof I don’t know how to explain at all

delicate coral
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I get what you mean, they’re kind of similar I suppose

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The devs have said that they were inspired by ghibli on some things iirc

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Although I’m not sure where exactly in the game there are glowing crystals like the ones in laputa, like you said

livid valley
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Cute

lean rapids
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guys,what is the name of the valley elder?

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pshh nvm

livid valley
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LOL

lean rapids
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ohh wait

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which one is sam

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and which one is mekh

thin dirge
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That's up to your interpretation

livid valley
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^^^

thin dirge
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I just did a small, dumb comic about a headcanon about the Prince

safe python
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what do yall think of the new season(?)/promotional image?\

thin dirge
safe python
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ok

thin dirge
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If its something lore related, its fine if you talk about it here

livid valley
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I just did a small, dumb comic about a headcanon about the Prince
GWunuAkkoChamp oh sounds pretty cool

safe python
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yea its more about the lore and how the events will impact the canonical sky timeline

thin dirge
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Also, the comic i did is about the Prince's star head

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Maybe I'll just share it later?

livid valley
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Sure

thin dirge
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Tex, fire away!

safe python
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maybe it has something to do with the creation of the stars

silver forge
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@safe python hey I have deleted your comment as it mentions content that isn't even out in beta. The only way to get it is through hacking and we don't allow discussion of hacking or hacked content here

safe python
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oh, ok!

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thank u haha

livid valley
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GWaobloChildPepeSweat oh I didn't even know about that thing

thin dirge
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Oh, that

silver forge
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please refrain from discussing that content as it is unfair to the majority of the playerbase SkyPray

thin dirge
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Okay!

livid valley
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Ok GWllentSansFingerGuns

thin dirge
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Hmm... Maybe I'll post the comic now

livid valley
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Aye

thin dirge
frail hearth
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aww

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i love your style

thin dirge
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Thx

hushed steeple
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@delicate coral well mainly that large diamond thing in Vault elevator

thin dirge
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I had an extra part I feel that adds more to this, but I can't draw it

livid valley
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This is cute pWow

thin dirge
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My headcanon is that the Prince's star head is actually a mask, but it was too big, so it falls on their face

frail hearth
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wholesome

thin dirge
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Should I share the extra bit?

livid valley
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Your art style man 👌 real good

frail hearth
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i usually draw him maskless

livid valley
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Yeye

frail hearth
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i hate drawing stars

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also sure

thin dirge
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Ayin: Uhhh... Teth, aren't you the one who made that mask for him?
Teth :Ye?
Ayin: Is it just me, or did you make it a little to big?
Teth: Wut? No I didn't, I made sure it was-
switches to sarcastic tone
Oh wait! It was OUR size! How could I forget! HOW AM I MEANT TO MAKE A MASK THAT SMALL???

frail hearth
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lmao i looked at the king statues in GW and they kinda look like forest's mask

thin dirge
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Lamed: You know, the child could've made it themselves with light.
Everyone turns to Lamed
Lamed: But it doesn't matter. They seem to like it a lot
Cue the Prince doing childish poses and running around in circles while Daleth just stares, not sure what to make of it
Tsadi: Uhh... Can they even see through that thing?
Lamed: ...I think so...

livid valley
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Aw prince running around pWow

thin dirge
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The Prince is a child, sooo...

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Oh shoot, I forgot the other part with the Valley twins

frail hearth
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sjdyddjdi i love him too much

thin dirge
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There was a part after the conversation with Teth
Samekh 1: Heh, this is why we dont wear masks
Samekh twins fist bump each other

ebon pier
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Hi! I don't talk that much here but I noticed that when you're at shipwreck, the temple(?) in wasteland has different looking statue/tower. It kind of reminds me of that king symbol/crown (a dot surrounded by a ring with lines, I'm not sure if it was king's symbol)

livid valley
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Yep it's the kings statue

ebon pier
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so the king really is everywhere

frail hearth
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yes

hushed steeple
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Kings statue?

livid valley
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Yep

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King symbols are everywhere

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Can't escape GWaobloChildPepeSweat

frail hearth
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"you aren't immune to propaganda"

mild lark
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Wait is this lore chat or am I confused rn?

thin dirge
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Yes, this is de lore chat

mild lark
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I thought it was fanart chat lol because of the drawing

thin dirge
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Oh, lol

livid valley
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That art is good tho pWow

mild lark
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idk how to draw cute figure too

thin dirge
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My profile pic is my drawing

mild lark
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Very cool

thin dirge
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Though, I usually have a hard time doing comics

frail hearth
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my pfps are always made by me :]

livid valley
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Very nice art style pWow

thin dirge
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ANYWAYS, BACK TO LORE!

mild lark
thin dirge
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Maybe to create a path?

mild lark
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The thing is

livid valley
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Man the moths head are real hard with the loudest bonk

mild lark
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Splitting a mountain is dang hardwork

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It easier to just go around

thin dirge
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Not sure if our character can go around

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Windwalls are not nice

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The wind still must've been hard

hushed steeple
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I went over it once

frail hearth
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plus there is no way a spirit can go through that hole

thin dirge
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Mountains are too big to climb

mild lark
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I mean why they didn't just go around when they build their civilization..

hushed steeple
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Walls were made to be torn down

violet depot
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Hey I'm kinda new to lore but I've been lurking the chat. Is there any areas in game I can see the skyscrit?

hushed steeple
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Vault Archive cubes

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And on the gold spinny things in prairie

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Well other bells too not just prairie

mild lark
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Have you read lore moff doc green?

violet depot
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I have not

thin dirge
mild lark
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Yay

violet depot
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Thank you. I'll read that first

thin dirge
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Sorry, I accidently added the ping!

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Woops

mild lark
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You will awaken bricky

thin dirge
mild lark
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I mean bricky can just appear out of nowhere so.. doesn't really matter

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It seem like it was surrounded by huge building

thin dirge
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There's statues with horns there

mild lark
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But what building is my question

thin dirge
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Hmmm... For the higher class?

mild lark
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Maybe for adminstration purposes.. you know high ranking people will live there to do their job

delicate coral
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Stadiums probably?

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Booth seats

mild lark
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Yeah but I'm talking the building after that booth seat

wind arch
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You know those extra fancy rooms in stadiums for rich people to watch from?

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Boxes

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I think those are boxes

ebon pier
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They're empty, but you can hear the cheering

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That's kinda creepy

delicate coral
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It’s spirit memory cheering I suppose

echo trellis
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Hey I’m pretty new to sky in general, joined on the very last day of enchantment. I’ve been wondering for a while and no one has ever given me an answer, does anyone have any pictures of the king? Anyone have any detailed descriptions? Anything?

exotic shuttle
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we have some concept art of the king 👀 also there's a bunch of king statues in the game!

thin dirge
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You could find concept art of the King and the original plans for the story of the game in the pins!

exotic shuttle
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there's some more pictures of the king in that album too

delicate coral
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These are also king statues in Eden and wasteland

thin dirge
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Wait, that hole in the King's head looks like we could fit in it

ebon pier
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So the king statues are the ones with smaller head?

delicate coral
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Yeah as far as we know, but the bigger spikes might also be variations on it still representing the king

thin dirge
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Could this be evidence that the King was just the Prince in a mech? pEyes

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Since the Prince is skid sized

ebon pier
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:0

thin dirge
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If we could fit inside the King's head, so could the Prince

delicate coral
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The hole doesn’t look like it’s big enough there (not that it matters since I would think the statues aren’t to scale anyway)

thin dirge
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True

rugged jackal
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What you guys talking about?

ebon pier
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Sky, but make it mecha

thin dirge
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It still looks like we could fit through that hole tho

abstract crypt
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Can't look for a better place, and I already asked in #completed-sky-fanart-and-creations. Does anyone know if anyone made a King fanart? Or atleast a good shot of the best King statue in game?

sacred rapids
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so I took pics of each of the elder totems and it looks like prairie and wasteland elders have a very very very similar design

subtle peak
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Maybe it's because those two have the biggest bodies?

lethal stump
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Hey I’m pretty new to sky in general, joined on the very last day of enchantment. I’ve been wondering for a while and no one has ever given me an answer, does anyone have any pictures of the king? Anyone have any detailed descriptions? Anything?
@echo trellis

delicate coral
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In terms of lore

lethal stump
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i think they’re supposed to be us
although i remember in my moff days, i thought they were our mom/the person talking to us in the intro

delicate coral
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I see... I guess that makes sense in Eden where they hold out light like we hold our candles

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Related to those, it’s 99.9999% just a coincidence, but every time I fly into GW’s battleground from the shipwreck I notice that the building facing the temple looks like those statues

lethal stump
delicate coral
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lol idk where I was going with that

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I’m not really sure what it would imply even if it wasn’t a coincidence

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Maybe just that there’s a link between skids/the statues and the king

thin dirge
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I noticed this in Sunny Forest. Kinda reminds me of the red crystals in Eden, but this one charges you

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I mean, super fast recharge

proud fern
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do you think there’s some sort of link between them?

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i mean hello first, sorry for i just jumped out of nowhere

thin dirge
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Maybe... Though, this one I different from those crystals. It’s probably a random mesh thats not meant to be there, idk

hushed steeple
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It's from belonging season... That's what i know about it

thin dirge
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Oh

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Did it have a purpose, orrr...

stark marten
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The underground cavern area was added during Belonging, but I have no idea what that little piece of glowing thing is. It could just be a bug or something that was never removed

hushed steeple
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The poop👀

stark marten
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There is a seasonal spirit that was in the cavern during that season, but that glowing rock/whatever didn't play any part in that so IDK what it's meant to be for (if it even has a purpose)

thin dirge
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Yeah, it’s probably a random mesh thats not meant to be there

stark marten
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I've seen people discuss it before, but as far as I know it's just kind of a mystery lol

thin dirge
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Welp, gotta continue my cr

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Cya

hushed steeple
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It could be the pooppEyes

proud fern
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i guess it’s just been added for recharging

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btw, i’ve just noticed that this cape shape on eden’s barrier has also been fossilized on the home’s stone, i wonder what does that really mean

hushed steeple
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Megabird

kind bobcat
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Could be megabird, yes pEyes

hushed steeple
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The eden portal also says winglights are part of megabird

kind bobcat
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Could just be a cape.

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Or are capes supposed to be references of the megabird.

hushed steeple
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Yeah it could be the cape tho

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So many possibilitiesstickerShiny

proud fern
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yeah,who knows

whole sphinx
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What if thats a real constellation

lethal stump
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a constellation irl ? very unlikely

gilded fossil
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/guys i was thing when you turn on all the bell in prarie or light all the bell house in forest the floor picture of a creature lights up

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/and those creatures appear?

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/is the eden door going with the same theme? eden door is also a bell

hushed steeple
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In eden there's only one door that works as bell

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The last portal... Orbit portal

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Someone pointed out if bells are meant to be summoning creatures (like in prairie it summons mantas,in Forest it summons jellys) then the orbit bell is for the new birth of sky kids

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Also sanctuary shows how bell calling mantas

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Different types of mantas

gilded fossil
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/yea

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/and then when we die that home plate is where we spawn

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/there are only 2 doors in home that has a bell tho

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/isle and eden

hushed steeple
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Yeah

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Eden door has a bell ... But isle Portal's bell.. ? Where that'sSkyThink

Or isle door is itself a bell?

gilded fossil
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/hey, maybe Daleth isnt on the eden door simply because he has his own bell, and the other elders uses the eden bell

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/oh not exactly visible, but isle bells dings every hour, and eden bells dings every 15 minutes

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/i think it's prbably the other way around

hushed steeple
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They dings at same time i guess

gilded fossil
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/ah jusst asked, isle dings every hour, eden dings every 15 minutes

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/Crackpot theory, Daleth wasnt casted away he just wanted his own bell

tender dune
lethal stump
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behind that is where you would get the think emote in beta, before it became seasonal

sly kestrel
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It’s something old from beta

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Oop

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Brick beat me

lethal stump
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:3c

tender dune
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Ah

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I went to forest temple to find anything that looks like what amio found. Sadly none is therestickerGloomy

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I searched the other pillars but found none

topaz girder
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what r u looking for ginko ?

hushed steeple
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Those are bug... GinkostickerGloomy

delicate coral
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Oh yeah those pillars, they’re the same ones that are in stormlock

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Not sure if we already knew that, probably did

hushed steeple
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Ye

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There are many

delicate coral
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I assume that just means it’s the default pillar pattern then?

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In the game and in the sky kingdom

hushed steeple
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They often used same pattern just to reduce game size

tender dune
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U really think its a bug amio?pOhReally

hushed steeple
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YepCry

tender dune
mild lark
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Sky is highly optimized game.. so I'm not surprised if that is actually the case

solar relic
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technicality-wise that may be true

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i like to think that valley-gw-eden share architecture though since they were more involved with king propaganda

mild lark
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Or were built by the same architect

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Don't you guys think that king is an architect

hushed steeple
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Mecha

lethal stump
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i think the king has negative braincells so no

mild lark
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Lol why

lethal stump
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how do you manage to kill literally everything in your kingdom

mild lark
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You know .. explosion

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I mean mistake

lethal stump
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yes but how do you be so dumb as to lead to that

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it sounds like something very avoidable

hushed steeple
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He didn't knew what could happen?pPopcorn

solar relic
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it's his gigantic ego 😔

mild lark
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I mean.. if we look irl..
All nuclear reactor failure was caused by a design flaw

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Or natural disasters

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They may not think that it will happen

livid valley
mild lark
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But it happened

lethal stump
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not necessarily
iirc chernobyl was caused because people knew it was going to happen but did nothing to stop it, and went ahead with regular procedures despite the possible consequences

hushed steeple
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Why do they call it the Golden Wasteland? It looks green. Not gold.

mild lark
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but I like to think megabird sneeze to hard

hushed steeple
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Maybe it was called the Golden City and some horrible disaster struck it. Then people started calling it Golden Wasteland.

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Wasteland is green cuz industrial work... That polluted air

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Water

mild lark
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No Chernobyl was caused by a design flaw.. they were doing a training of some sort for the workers ... I think a nuclear meltdown training iirc..

They didn't think that would happen because of the design flow

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But

lethal stump
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they had the alarms turned off for safety testing however they were aware something was up and did nothing to prevent it

mild lark
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They did turn off the alarm

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Yess

hushed steeple
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Well yes, but they also did it at a bad time in terms of energy used/activity
That and the wrong shift

mild lark
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It was unpreventable.. the reactor has already began to melt down..

It reached to a certain point that the water cooling was turn into vapor and enable the nuclear thingy (idk what it was called.. maybe proton?)
This was caused by the design flaw

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Still can't accept the fact that sky kingdom know how to split a mountain tho

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I'll call it magic
until I get the answers

delicate coral
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Maybe it was already like that

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There’s split mountains in three locations in the game

mild lark
delicate coral
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And the prairie entrance + the sanctuary mountain look natural more than cut by the spirits

mild lark
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It like hot knife through butter

delicate coral
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Potentially it was already roughly in half and they just straightened it out a bit to make it look cleaner?

mild lark
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Hmm

delicate coral
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lol yeah it’s not very convincing

mild lark
delicate coral
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Where is that? The beginning of the last section of the race?

hushed steeple
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Krill-Chan wormed through it

mild lark
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I don't remember which part this is

delicate coral
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Oh nvm I know where it is now

mild lark
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Yeah

delicate coral
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I guess they could just have a huge amount of hard labour

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That’s how tunnels used to be made for trains in the colonies in Australia

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They’d get the convicts to use pick axes to dig them out by hand

hushed steeple
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Anyways what’s everyone’s take on GW? Was it a golden city that was taken over by darkness, or did the ancestors ventured then build the kingdom as a show of domination over the darkness?
(And what of the ship with emergency boats)

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I think it was a Golden City that was eventually taken over by darkness.

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The Sky People tried to fight off the darkness but were facing defeat. So they constructed the Ark as a contingency plan.

lethal stump
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i imagine it was the Golden Desert, titled cause back then the sun made the sand look like gold

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the royal ark is an old, no longer canon concept

pliant sail
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Now I wanna know the whole entire lore at the moment

hushed steeple
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With all the pipes leaking sludge, is it more industrial based or like were they pumping up darkness for some reason?
(The fact there are so many pipes everywhere rather unsettled me)

tender dune
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I mean. The google definition of wasteland is:

  • an unused area of land that has become barren or overgrown.
  • a bleak and unused or neglected urban or industrial area.
gilded fossil
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/DZ you new?

pliant sail
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New to the community but not really new to the game in my opinion

tender dune
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incoming lore moff!

gilded fossil
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/in forr lore chat eh?

pliant sail
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owo

gilded fossil
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/yesssss!!!!!!!

hushed steeple
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All sludge we see in GW is probably industrial pollution.

pliant sail
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must read

hushed steeple
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Hmm true
I did take a look at the original concepts for gw

tender dune
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So i think gw was always a wasteland, they industralized it and built factories/lived in it. But of course with the destruction its back to being a wasteland but with pollution

hushed steeple
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Hmm. The only places we see krill are in GW and Eden. Both areas are heavily industrialized. Maybe the krill were either created as a result of said industrialization or as a result of the pollution?

gilded fossil
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/so you mean it was just a desert and then we polluted the desert?

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/krills could be a creature, although im all in the krills being mechanic

hushed steeple
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Yeah me too.

ivory surge
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what is megabird???

gilded fossil
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/Hello tika you new?

ivory surge
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quite new :"

gilded fossil
pliant sail
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when I read megabird before looking at the picture I just imagined a huge bird or just a flock of birds together to make a huge one

ivory surge
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megabird is a bird?

gilded fossil
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/DZ bird is just a name

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/when you watch the credits, you will see that megan is made of a bunch of stars

pliant sail
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owo

hushed steeple
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Megabird is supposedly the god of Sky. Either that or it’s a representation of the cycle of rebirth and the physical galaxy that Sky takes place in.

tender dune
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More like made of all light creatures

hushed steeple
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By the way new lore moths, Megan is the nickname for Megabird.

ivory surge
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oh so megabird is the one who created sky kids?

tender dune
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Unsure tika

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Some theorize yes and some theorise no

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But canon-wise we don't know

hushed steeple
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It’s definitely possible Tika if you believe that Megabird is the god of Sky.

ivory surge
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thats awesomepWow

gilded fossil
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/some theories that are really crackpot said that Megan is made by skids

pliant sail
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What are skids-

gilded fossil
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/and skids are made by gatorade

pliant sail
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Oh sky kids-

hushed steeple
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Sky kids.

tender dune
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Sky kids - skids

hushed steeple
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Gatorade???

pliant sail
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I’m a idiot

gilded fossil
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/so megan is made by gatorade

tender dune
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Ignore that vayne hhaha

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Jen they're still new dont confuse themSkyLOL

gilded fossil
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/ so that concludes my ted talk

hushed steeple
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It’s my head canon that Sky kids are just normal human kids that drank a lot of Red Bull. Red Bull gives you wings after all.

gilded fossil
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Jen they're still new dont confuse themSkyLOL
/sorry stickerShy

pliant sail
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I will continue being a idiot for as long I don’t know 1 + 1

tender dune
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If ur interested in reading lore confirmed by tgc then in the pinned messages you'll find a canon doc

pliant sail
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oh

solar relic
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boop, it's sin-1(5) 😔

hushed steeple
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I’ve calculated that it approximately takes 3 years for a newborn infant to become 3 years old.

pliant sail
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smart

hushed steeple
tender dune
hushed steeple
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Anyone know the lore behind the red crystals and the red goop we see in Eden?

shadow coyote
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I kinda wanna know what the elders were like as sky kids

tender dune
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All theories are welcome and don't be scared on sharing themstickerHeart

shadow coyote
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They must have been at some point right?

solar relic
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i believe the red crystals are from the big diamond

hushed steeple
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@shadow coyote The Elders are not Sky kids.

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They’re different species.

solar relic
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no the elders were always elders according to the canon lore doc

shadow coyote
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Oh

hushed steeple
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To whom suggested krill was mechanical
Disney Atlantis movie where Milo realizes (staring at giant lobster creature eye) “It’s a machine!”

tender dune
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I kinda wanna know what the elders were like as sky kids
Elders and sky kids are two different species

shadow coyote
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Ah okay

hushed steeple
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I think that Elders are the gods of their specific areas and the Sky kids are their angels. Maybe.

tender dune
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Elders are 'fallen stars' (as we see from the intro)

gilded fossil
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/what would that make the ancestors be?

tender dune
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Skids were created. What are we and who made us is up to you to theorize

solar relic
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ancestors are like

misty idol
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Elders are ancestors

hushed steeple
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Are the ancestors grown up Sky kids?

solar relic
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normal beings

misty idol
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We evolved to fly

hushed steeple
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So wait-

solar relic
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the relations between ancestors and skids are unknown, but they both have a blue spirit

hushed steeple
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Ancestors are humans?

misty idol
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They’re not human

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They’re stars personified

tender dune
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Ancestors = the spirits we see and help

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Skids = skids

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Elders = elders

misty idol
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Elders are apart of the ancestors

tender dune
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No

misty idol
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Just the eldest

tender dune
#

They're different entities

misty idol
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They’re not a separate being

tender dune
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No

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Elders came from the stars

misty idol
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We all did

gilded fossil
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/if you ever go to isle

tender dune
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Go check out the canon doc. You'll see that they're unrelated

misty idol
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The ancestors are stars as well

tender dune
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No

gilded fossil
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/you can see that the ancestors exist on land when the saw the ancestor fell

tender dune
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Ancestors have always been on land

hushed steeple
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It could be that the ancestors are the natives of the Sky world.

misty idol
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Thus being apart of the consolations

tender dune
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The elders fell there in their world

gilded fossil
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/ah, rose, the ancestors being apart of the constelation is a different thing

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/they are not stars

misty idol
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Is bricky here?

mortal viper
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nop

pliant sail
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I read canon lore stuff and I still don’t understand

mortal viper
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bricky is off, how can I be of service?

gilded fossil
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/it's okay DZ, most of us make crackpot theories anyways

solar relic
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i think that orbit is like the equivalent of heaven for sky, so while the ancestors did not physically descend from there like the elders did, when they die they go to orbit
in the context of the intro scene, the elders are the stars

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yo blue!!

hushed steeple
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If Orbit is Heaven then is there a hell?

gilded fossil
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/eden is hell

hushed steeple
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For the bad Sky people to go to.

gilded fossil
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/oh oh, maybe Home space is hell

solar relic
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maybe heaven is not the right word to describe orbit

misty idol
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The krill’s stomach is the hell

solar relic
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but i don't know what's the word for it

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hell is obviously the pit of death in first area of eden

misty idol
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There’s not always a hell

hushed steeple
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I wonder if Orbit is a physical place that exists in the Sky world or if its some kind of afterlife.

solar relic
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yeah, i don't know the word in english aaa

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OH

misty idol
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A heaven can exist with out an under world

solar relic
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AFTERLIFE YES THANK YOU

hushed steeple
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If a Sky kid just kept flying up would they reach Orbit eventually?

pliant sail
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My ideas suck-

mortal viper
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Sky concepts are based in a cicle of life-death-return to megabird-rebirthr

tender dune
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Probably not vayneSkyLOL

misty idol
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If they can push past the wind

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Maybe

gilded fossil
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My ideas suck-
/you havent shared it yet dz

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/anyways, gtg SkyWave stickerWave

hushed steeple
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Cya Gen

mortal viper
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If a Sky kid just kept flying up would they reach Orbit eventually?
In game no, I tried. There is a limit. Tho you can fly pretty high

hushed steeple
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Jen

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Smh wrong spelling

solar relic
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bye jen

pliant sail
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I just thought if orbit was just outer space where all the sky kids vibe

mortal viper
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orbit is afterlife

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where you go after you die in eden

pliant sail
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It was just a small idea that is prob not true

mortal viper
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it's also the home to the elders

solar relic
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i mean there is a bunch of dead skids in orbit so you're not wrong

mortal viper
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but well, considering skids come from there, nothing is stoping them from chilling around

solar relic
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i forgot what we were going on about

mortal viper
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I just got here, so I have no idea

tender dune
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Lol

pliant sail
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I’m new to the lore still so I just have random ideas

mortal viper
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have you read brick's lore moff doc?

pliant sail
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I read the approved lore stuff and the one Jen put in chat

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I still have no idea

mortal viper
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all ideas are welcomed here

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you are free to share no matter how stupid or silly they might sound to you

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we are here to discuss since sky lore is not realy set in stone

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most of the things you will see here are theories

solar relic
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yepp

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don't be afraid to share what you think, we can't prove you wrong nor can we prove you right

pliant sail
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So oreo can be god

hushed steeple
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Yes

thin dirge
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Oreo could be the King

tender dune
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Oh blue, can u dm me ur references for the whurtle?pEyesstickerUmm

hushed steeple
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||Why can mantas jelly and whale go to orbit but not skykids||

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?

sweet crag
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Hey quick question, which entities in Sky are genderless?

hushed steeple
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All

sweet crag
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I see thanks

tender dune
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||Why can mantas jelly and whale go to orbit but not skykids||
No need for spoilers here taki. Also skykids do go to orbit

kind bobcat
livid valley
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Boi

tender dune
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Not krill anatomy gooberSkyLOL

kind bobcat
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Oh.

tender dune
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And not the whurtle artwork

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Hahah

kind bobcat
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Hold on what did you ask for again?

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uhHH

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oH

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The whurtle

hushed steeple
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WhartlepSquint

kind bobcat
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I have no idea about the whurtle

hushed steeple
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Or whurtlepSquint?

kind bobcat
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Turtle with no shell pPogKid

hushed steeple
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Oops

tender dune
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I'll just wait for blue to reply (i meant i wanted the pics she used to draw it)

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She might have better pics than the ones i tookstickerUmm

hushed steeple
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That one i sent was by blue... But i can't post that

tender dune
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I know i meant screenshots SkyScared

hushed steeple
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One of the greatest tragedies in Sky is that I can’t do any archaeology excavations. I say this because just let me see the full whurtle skeleton, TGC

tender dune
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i chibi fell to see the full skull of whurtle but sadly nothing was there

hushed steeple
tender dune
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I think you can post blue's artwork as long as you credit her but u can't post unknown artwork?? pThink if any mods reading this please enlighten meSkyPray

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u can i think message link her artwork post tho (that's what i usually do)

modest finch
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Posting others work even with credit isnt allowed in this server unfortunately stickerGloomy

hushed steeple
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Sorry should reword uestion
Skykid can’t just fly up to orbit like the animals? Or those animals also are died

tender dune
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Ah ok, thanks rosella

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The animals are also dead too taki

hushed steeple
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Ah ok

tender dune
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That's the lifecycle

hushed steeple
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The animals also go through Eden

tender dune
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To rebirth

hushed steeple
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Actually they reborn in natural way
not like us who dies

autumn basin
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is orbit the remains of where the king lived?

hushed steeple
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Amio, is that a theory or do you have proof?

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And it could be ofc

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Take as THEORY

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The floated part of castle in space is not same as floated part seen on Eden mountain from distance is it?

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Oki thank you for clarification 🥰

autumn basin
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it makes sense cause it looks like aa broken castle

hushed steeple
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It bothers me to see what appears as steps around the space portion but no means to stop flying and go walk on it

tender dune
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Ah if u mean that kings castle reached orbit and he lived there then no xD
His castle was destroyed and the upper portion kinda hangs between eden and pre-orbit

hushed steeple
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Well me and my friend managed to land on that floating castle once

autumn basin
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ohh

hushed steeple
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Nothing is there tho

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Is the top of Eden crumbling so because it’s trying to rise or it’s stormy to stop trespassers

tender dune
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I always bonk awaySkyCry

autumn basin
hushed steeple
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Should I post some pics?

autumn basin
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sure

hushed steeple
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Pls

tender dune
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Is the top of Eden crumbling so because it’s trying to rise or it’s stormy to stop trespassers
Can u explain more? (Sry i didn't understand stickerEmbarrassed )

hushed steeple
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When your glowing bright and enter the gates and go through the tunnel up the destroyed remains of the castle

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That’s so hecking PRETTY oml I love Orbit sm

tender dune
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That's the destroyed parts of the castle. From what we know, big diamond go kaboom = eden castle destroyed + storm + total annihilation

hushed steeple
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Ooooh just like Laputa!!!!

tender dune
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lowkey theory i think sky is just a very big laputa

solar relic
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oo yes it does resemble valley-gw buildings pSkyPeek

hushed steeple
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The vault archives feel very much like Laputas compute core

tender dune
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I think smiley and lamb would be overjoyed with thatSkyLOL SkyLOL (computer core)

hushed steeple
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It’s kinda funny how in Laputa people went to the skies but had to return to the earth, meanwhile here we came from the stars down to the earth but eventually return back up there

tender dune
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xD

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More like we were created to clean that mess uppPopcorn

hushed steeple
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Gardener droid pPopcorn

tender dune
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In the intro it shows that we also fell but not if we fell from the skies or from edenpPopcorn

hushed steeple
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We are all sheeta
(Well we didn’t fall from a airship)

tender dune
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Ah nvm we do fall from the skySkyDontGo

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Skids = Sky world janitors

livid valley
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I don't seem to clean anything GWnonAiSmug

hushed steeple
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We pick up the crabs and undesired flowers

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And as stewards we shoo the ancestors back to where they belong

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Did gw have disaster after diamond go boom like the opening scene in Atlantis: the lost empire
Which also left behind their giant lobster/Krill things

tender dune
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Theory goes that there was a civil war in gw

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Since we see sunshield + diamond shield and a lot of weapons

polar stone
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i always wonder if there's eden elder stickerShock

hushed steeple
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Taki what i think is flying debris from eden storm fell in wasteland and destroyed most of buildings there

Only war and industrial work can't make such destruction

tender dune
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"Eden elder isnt around to be saved anymore" from what i remember

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So either king was eden elder or there was an eden elder but was thanos snapped from the boom

polar stone
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isn't around but still somewhere?

tender dune
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SkyShrug we dont know

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Its up to us to theorize such things based on our own opinions (thats why most of the stuff is not 100% confirmed bt tgc)

minor stratus
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Hello, I’m new to the game and I was wondering who are we technically in the game. The Question has been bugging me

tender dune
hushed steeple
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Some says the eden elder and the king is the Same person.... And they also says skykids are the kingpEyes

tender dune
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Many many theories

blissful depot
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darn...so many kings

tender dune
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Canon wise,we dont know @minor stratus

hushed steeple
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35+ millions kingpFIRE

tender dune
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But some theorize we're reincarnation of the king (or prince). Some say megabird created us. So many theories

hushed steeple
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Skykids are the king?
You mean like he fragmented himself and then reincarnated those fragments as children of light?

thin dirge
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I wonder what happened... My headcanon is that they're dead. As in, dead dead, gone from existing

minor stratus
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Hahah right

thin dirge
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The King, I mean

tender dune
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We do however make claysounds pPopcorn so we we're def created (by whom = ???)

thin dirge
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Elders are made of stone too

hushed steeple
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King was Krilled

blissful depot
#

skykid factory pFIRE

hushed steeple
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Some says oreo is the king as wellpPopcorn

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The True King

thin dirge
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Nah, Elders are made of stone too. This is hinted with Isle Elder, and Vault Elder a bit

hushed steeple
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Some also says @pastel brook behaves like king

minor stratus
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Lol Oreo was funny when it first popped out

thin dirge
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The Isle Elder's face gets restored, kinda looks like rocks

tender dune
#

Brb let me drop lore moff

hushed steeple
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Omg I was freaking out in excitement when I saw Oreo I had no idea what was gonna happen

tender dune
thin dirge
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The Vault Elder has a chip in her face, making it look like she's made of stone too

gilded fossil
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/yay neww moff!!!!

hushed steeple
#

Moffs*

blissful depot
#

sweats in W.D. Gaster

hushed steeple
#

Why am I logged out of discord when I use the moff link

thin dirge
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I think sky kids and Elders were made of stone

gilded fossil
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sweats in W.D. Gaster
/crackpot fandom crosssing theory: King is Gaster and Wasteland is post-ut Core

thin dirge
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Thus the words "Sky kids are not the same or different species as the Elders"

hushed steeple
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Not the same or different??

tender dune
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Why am I logged out of discord when I use the moff link
@hushed steeple because its a google doc not a discord link

thin dirge
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Yeah, not the same or different

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Which is kinda suspicious itself...

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We're most likely related to the King

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The Vault Cutscene confirms this

lethal stump
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Where are you getting that sentence/phrasing ?

thin dirge
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Canon lore doc

hushed steeple
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I finally remembered my question from ages ago
What is the meaning of specific temples depicted in the isle of dawn temple? I thought they were in order before realizing the shapes did not correspond
Def isle temple left out
Actually maybe that’s all and it still is in order and I just mixed up which was first

thin dirge
tender dune
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Taki those are the temples we see (praire/forest/gw/valley/vault/etc.)

lethal stump
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I don’t think it means « they are not the same, nor are they different » it’s just repeating the same concept

Skykids and Elders aren’t the same, or [a clarification], they are different species

thin dirge
#

Hmm... Maybe

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But I guess I'm still sticking with the idea they're similar tho

lethal stump
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I know the devs are elusive but i don’t think they’d give us a nonsense sentence SkyLOL

tender dune
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xD

hushed steeple
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Yea I mixed up the temples and thought prairie was isle and hidden was prairie and so on oof

solar relic
#

even though skids aren't like the same species as elders i still think skids are the eden elder/king

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though not biologically the same, it's just that skids carry the king's soul i guess pThink

stone rivet
#

How are we related to King

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We as in Sky kids

mild lark
#

That's a long theory

stone rivet
#

Make it shorter

tender dune
#

Oh smiley, taki said something u might enjoypPopcorn

lethal stump
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i come forward with...
look at the little lad, the prince, he looks exactly like us. It’s...a starting point for what Smiley acknowledged is a rather complex theory

tender dune
#

The vault archives feel very much like Laputas compute core
^taki

stone rivet
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Considering all, we could just be made to resemble

mild lark
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Ooo

solar relic
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i could try condensing what i think but it is still gonna be a bit long

gilded fossil
#

/hey poopy are you new?

stone rivet
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Don't.

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Fairly new

lethal stump
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I wish you luck, res :p

stone rivet
#

I have, but thanks!

livid valley
#

Jen ahahah GWnonAiSmug

mild lark
#

What is laputas

thin dirge
#

I have a long theory about how we're connected to the King as well-

tender dune
#

Laputa - ghibli movie (anime)

mild lark
#

Oooh...

stone rivet
#

I will be forever calling the forest elder forrest mama

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She just vibes

#

Its so sad that her oob was patched

mild lark
#

Forest mom is cool

stone rivet
#

Uncle Heely

#

gw elder

thin dirge
#

I once had a thought about the Valley Twins pranking the poor guy by switching his shoes, and he never bothered to change them since-

lethal stump
#

the elders we see who wear shoes all wear heels, makes me think all the elders wear heels even under their robes

thin dirge
#

Lol, grampa Isle wearing HEELS

stone rivet
#

So officially we have
Forest mama
Prairie Dad
Fw Uncle
Valley Brothas
Grampa isle

gilded fossil
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/yes please

thin dirge
#

Wait, would that mean the Prince/King wore heels too??

lethal stump
#

yes

thin dirge
#

Can't be a King if you don't have FASHION

lethal stump
#

what do you mean « Officially » ?

gilded fossil
#

/so what you're saying is

solar relic
#

i got the condensed version down pSkyPeek

gilded fossil
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/Kings has heels, has a pet, he is tall
/Conclusion: King does style

solar relic
#

(you may want to rewatch the intro cutscene in the pins to understand this)

so basically what i think is going on is that skids = king = eden elder we don't see and can't save rn = the child of light you see in the intro scene

wl were at one point called 'imprints of the child of light'

7 trails from the sky fall down in the intro, and there's a middle trail that falls down to the star above the eden castle in the intro (though it starts from the middle of the clouds), so i think this is the child of light coming down to the world of sky as the king but in a different form

king's physical body is destroyed by the explosion of the eden diamond, his soul (the golden shiny boy you see at the end)/ the child of light form of him is in the diamond

the child of light's imprints are scattered throughout the realms due to the storm, or they are like memories of the king in his time when he was alive

skids may have been modeled after the child of light, and carry its imprints in them, kinda like reliving the king's memories and paths he took in sky

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this is a theory and not a confirmation of what actually happened pPopcorn

lethal stump
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and even with this theories, there are variations
i believe something different than res, others might too lol

solar relic
#

yep, not everyone has to agree on what they think happened since

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that's not the point of this channel

lethal stump
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like, i think that we’re the prince/king (same person) incarnate, trapped in a time loop as penance for our sins

tender dune
#

Meanwhile i have too many theories to stick to onestickerUmm and they keep increasing

thin dirge
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Yeah, I'm starting to have many variations/paths for my theory with the CoL and stuff

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So it's hard for me to stick to one too

tender dune
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I mean i also had a theory where isle elder is evil but i forgot it

lethal stump
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hey, also, I was going through my logs of king propaganda and realized that his mask is commonly depicted with 3 points however, there is also an multiple instances of a 7 pointed symbol, and even a 5 pointed one in prairie although to my knowledge it’s only found there
What do you guys think caused this discrepancy ?

gilded fossil
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/odđ numbers only?

tender dune
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pThink i noticed that too tbh. Also something else i noticed was the eden pointer is SkyCall while the skid honk pointer is a bit different

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Did numbers mean anything significant in sky?

gilded fossil
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/ no

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/in chinese culture howerver\

tender dune
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Do u have pics of the 5 symbol one brikson?pEyes

lethal stump
tender dune
#

Oh better, thanksstickerShy

gilded fossil
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/4 is actually an un lucky number

tender dune
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Dunno if its because the civilization is advancing which made their art develop or it has a deeper meaning. My brain is empty atmstickerEmbarrassed

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First and last drawings remind me of the prince mask

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My counting is a bit diff ngl

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I gtg so ill post it when im back home

delicate coral
#

There’s also a longer pointed one on top of the wasteland temple

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Excuse the bad photo, I didn’t have time to go get another one

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I shall do so now

lethal stump
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Yes, they’re 3 pointed as well

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im wondering if 3 is the sign of the king, and the other numbers are the prince

thin dirge
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Its always the bottom point being missing

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I think thats mainly due to the star head being on top of a statue

livid valley
#

True

mild lark
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Also the king statue has neck lol

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Concept art don't show that

lethal stump
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well, that’s a possibility, until we look at the king in the vault mural, which is truly the weirdest king of all
he has a proper 3 pronged crown
so i think the 3 points is intentional

thin dirge
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The crown in the cutscene?

lethal stump
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yes

thin dirge
#

That's our contellation

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The favorite friend constellation

lethal stump
#

Indeed it is
And it’s meant to represent the eden elder, which is likely the king

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so i think the 3 points means king

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5–8 means prince

mild lark
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How do we know 5-8 mean prince

thin dirge
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The mural still has the four pointed star, but since the star is in a castle, the bottom point well, isn't quite drawn out

orchid crypt
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i wonder if we're supposed to make something of the fact that the king's humanoid silhouette in the mural is almost completely enclosed by the mountainous shape in the background

thin dirge
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All stars that seems to depict the King always have the bottom point missing, because that star is always on something

orchid crypt
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like the real body/true form is encased in something bigger, per the mech theories pEyes

lethal stump
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it feels too consistent to be a coincidence, or simply because there’s something underneath

mild lark
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So how do we know 5-8 means prince?

lethal stump
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that’s just my assumption, considering i don’t see how it could connect to the king

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if 3 means king, what’s left ? 5-8 meaning prince

orchid crypt
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what about the corrupted king? i thought that head shape had more random spikes sticking out of it

mild lark
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Don't concept art king has more than 4 points?

lethal stump
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we can see the three points is actually a rather old concept

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the two kings who have arrows pointing at them have a crown like the one seen in the vault mural

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which says to me that, maybe the devs went back on the king’s design ?

thin dirge
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Tried seaching up the symbolism of three

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Not sure if this adds anything tho

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I'll keep searching

lethal stump
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thé « birth life death » thing might be worth looking into

gilded fossil
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/that's a very western look tho

lethal stump
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and 3 being the number of the divine

mild lark
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I actually thought king always has 8 point

lethal stump
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in game, it doesn’t seem he does

thin dirge
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Found it again

lethal stump
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so, three is cyclical

gilded fossil
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/okay i found the the chinese consider 3 as a number of stability

thin dirge
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Its also a significant number in Christianity, the Holy Trinity

mild lark
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number 3 intensifies

gilded fossil
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/oh, well, they actually talk about birth-life-death as well, huh, gues i was wrong

lethal stump
thin dirge
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Wow, the Holy Trinity part kinda sounds similar to my theory about the King

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But uhhh, I'm not sure about it

lethal stump
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can we agree that 3 can represent something cyclical ?

thin dirge
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I guess so?

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Cycles are kinda a theme in the game, soooo....

gilded fossil
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/ wait a sec bricky cyclical is a big word lemme search it up

lethal stump
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just means it repeats

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if something is cyclical, it repeats, it goes in circles

mild lark
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Which one made you say that.. the one that say completed cycle unto itself?

delicate coral
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I’m still not sure that I’m in agreeance that it’s meant to be the number three as opposed to four points

lethal stump
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in the vault mural, the king has a 3 pointed crown, why wouldn’t it meant to be 3

mild lark
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Cause I don't think past present future is a cycle

delicate coral
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Well the king also seems to have a lot of diamond symbolism associated with him, so I’m not sure why the 3 would play in there when there’s also a lot of 4s

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Potentially it could be both though, and the 3s and 4s represent different things

mild lark
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I'm surprised king statue has a neck...

thin dirge
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It's probably made to look accurate to the King itself

mild lark
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Ok .. I have a weird thought..
So we know ancestors will eat crab as a dark creature..
If ancestors team up..
Will they eat krill too?

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I mean krill is just prawn but longer

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Honestly with how ancestors manipulate the surrounding to their advantage.. I wouldn't be surprised if they do

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Now krill need to be afraid now..
The table has turned

pastel brookBOT
mild lark
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Oh no did I do something??

thin dirge
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Uhhhh

mild lark
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I mean no krill doesn't need to be afraid

lethal stump
mild lark
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Legit scared me

livid valley
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pSquint Skybean

lethal stump
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Ok .. I have a weird thought..
So we know ancestors will eat crab as a dark creature..
If ancestors team up..
Will they eat krill too?
i mean, if ancestors are anything like humans then probably yeah. like we did with mammoths

tender dune
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dropping this quickly excuse my very shaky hands im not supposed to be here . We tend to forget this red part

lethal stump
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true
but that’s not present on any of the others iirc

tender dune
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U think the spikes developing is showing the kings development over time?

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pMoth --> pBuffMoth

lethal stump
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eh, we see multiple different representations in single realms in random order

tender dune
lethal stump
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i don’t think it could be him goin from prince to king or something

tender dune
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Yeh

lethal stump
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although
they could have been built at different periods of time

tender dune
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Probs, we see the realms advance the further we go

lethal stump
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we see what could be referencing the prince in some things
and in others it’s the king

tender dune
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(Like how irl we'd see better statues over time ?)

lethal stump
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yea

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like in ye olden days it might’ve just been a bust
but now you have big fabulous bronze statues

tender dune
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Yeah

lethal stump
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we mostly see the 7 points associated with power diamond doors...

  • glances at old timeline *
    maybe that references the prince helping find darkstone and get the kingdom to develop technology ?
tender dune
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Probably

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Isnt prince 8?

lethal stump
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well
with the beam underneath, that makes 8

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and i’m classifying the prince as between 5-8 points

tender dune
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Doesnt number 8 mean infinite?

lethal stump
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so 5, 6, 7, and 8 points would be the prince

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idk number symbolism lol

tender dune
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Same

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Aaa ttyl!!

gilded fossil
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/why king has less points tho?

lethal stump
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no clue, Jen

gilded fossil
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/would you want more points to assert more dominance

lethal stump
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all I know is that the king might be represented by 3 points considering his crown in the constellation and vault mural

dense umbra
livid valley
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Ooo

dense umbra
inner comet
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Maybe they did take inspo from Sanskrit since they also took inspo from other religionspEyes

lapis ibex
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Oooohhhh...

inner comet
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Like the 63 children you gotta save (unsure what religion thats from)

dense umbra
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Ya but i don't know if the letters are actually the same or jusr inspired by

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I'll look up their meaning

inner comet
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First one doesnt even look similar to the letter?

lapis ibex
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I have my own beliefs about the butterflies. The butterflies you see and scattered are the souls who don't depart and live on as butterflies.

dense umbra
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Same concept in general 3 lines last one has that pionty head in green

gilded fossil
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/names of elders are also sankrits i believe

dense umbra
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Hebrew

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I believe

thin dirge
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Wait, so you mean... People were... using souls of the dead... as some energy source?!?!

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@lapis ibex

hushed steeple
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The Elders were referred to with Hebrew letters in the concept art.

thin dirge
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Yeah

dense umbra
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Mean anything?

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But i'm not sure about the translation i don't know those letters well

lapis ibex
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Wait, so you mean... People were... using souls of the dead... as some energy source?!?!
@thin dirge the only reason why they are 'annoying' is they want to say Hello to you

thin dirge
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???

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Wut?

lapis ibex
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They can't communicate like us

thin dirge
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There was the popular belief that the Ancestors used butterflies as an energy source before using diamonds. That's what I was talking about

lapis ibex
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Ohhh

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Is it ok to talk about fanmade season lore here?

gilded fossil
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/i dont think so?

lapis ibex
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Ok

dense umbra
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Are Dimonds energy somehow related to light?

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Cause I thought in sky they get everything from light even to power themselves & wings

solar relic
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power diamonds may be a combination of light and darkness

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example of their uses: it helps islands/platforms to fly (e.g. in valley/vault), it helps boats to fly (like the boat that takes you to ark)

dense umbra
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Just because its used in wastland doesn't mean it's also made of darkness?

solar relic
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power diamonds are used throughout all realms

lapis ibex
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I think before the Sky Kids, Sky People, etc inhabited the clouds. The clouds used to inhabits the Angels before they died off

kind bobcat
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Are Dimonds energy somehow related to light?
@dense umbra Yes, power diamonds seem to be refined darkstones that acts like batteries.

lethal stump
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Skykids only came around after Ancestors and Elders, ShadowWolf

dense umbra
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I see

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Darkstones existe ingame somewhere?

kind bobcat
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No.

dense umbra
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Can we still see them

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Ah

kind bobcat
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Well, there's one in an eden oob.

lethal stump
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They do, they’re the plants in-game
kinda

kind bobcat
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But oobs aren't lore related.

dense umbra
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I don't think they count

kind bobcat
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Darkstones are basically darkness plant prototypes pEyes

lethal stump
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The plants in-game, according to Ktjn, can be called darkstone, dark plants, dark material, etc., at the end of the day, their use is the same

kind bobcat
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So i suppose they somehow refined something to make power diamonds

lapis ibex
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Skykids only came around after Ancestors and Elders, ShadowWolf
@lethal stump Ohhh ok

lethal stump
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the order of people in sky is: Ancestors first, then the Elders fell, they all died/went away, and then Skykids were sent

dense umbra
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They could have figured out how to harvest dark plants for their benefit

lethal stump
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Part of me is thinking that the darkness we see in game is whatever the dark material in the forest door is

dense umbra
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But their light would just burn the plants?

kind bobcat
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Overload? Maybe?

lethal stump
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assuming they’re fusing creatures of light with darkness, then no, it wouldn’t burn the plants

dense umbra
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Wait diamonds could actually be in fact made of darkness since when we light them up with our candles light they function so they are sensitive to light like dark plants

lethal stump
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they’re made of two parts darkness and two parts light

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the forest temple door shows this

dense umbra
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How does it show?

kind bobcat
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The way it opens.

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The two power diamonds we light go to a centre formation

lethal stump
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we see two blue things (darkness) and two yellow things (light) come together and turn into a power diamond

kind bobcat
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^ that

dense umbra
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Ok don't really remember well

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But you're saying there are blue diamonds & yellow diamonds?

kind bobcat
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On the door, yes.

lethal stump
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yes, and those diamonds represent darkness and light

dense umbra
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Gotta check it ou again

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But in some places the diamond is just blue & turns to yellow if we light it to open the door, kinda like dark plants first they're blue & when we light/burn them they're yellow

inner comet
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Yo i dont understand all of this power diamond and darkstone stuff, are PD's just like batteries for factories?????

lethal stump
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they’re a power source

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basically like batteries, but they’re also magic

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they make boats fly

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and doors open

kind bobcat
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destroy civilizations

lethal stump
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go boom

kind bobcat
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kill children

delicate coral
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To further clarify, PDs are what's manufactured in the factories

kind bobcat
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The Unlimited Potential Of Power Diamonds
A book by Resh.

lethal stump
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The very limited potential of power diamonds
A hurried afterward by Resh (as the eden diamond explodes)

dense umbra
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What was the original goal of those statue children going to eden in the first place?

kind bobcat
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Most of us believe those were previous skykids that didnt make it

orchid crypt
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i've always wondered if they were trying to save someone (the king?) or otherwise deactivate the crystal

ember temple
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Yeah

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And how on earth there are so many of them

kind bobcat
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Our goal was to "return the fallen stars" pEyes

ember temple
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Also why don't they crumble away? The ones before did iirc, or at least one of them did

orchid crypt
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yeah, but when we play now, we're effectively giving light to the fallen sky children there -- so what were they doing at the beginning to wind up there?

ember temple
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Especially as they're literally in the storm itself – shouldn't that have crushed them?

orchid crypt
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the ones at the very beginning, when there would've presumably been no sky kids to save?

ember temple
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(Also why do they return every week but that seems to be more of a gameplay mechanic)

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Yeah, that does seem weird

kind bobcat
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Well, there's the time loop/lock theory pEyes

ember temple
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Time loop/lock?

lethal stump
dense umbra
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Since our clear goal in-game is return the fallen stars help the pirits... Maybe the kids were there guiding the spirits through eden?

ember temple
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Interesting

kind bobcat
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Back in beta you would lose emotes in Eden.

ember temple
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^

dense umbra
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We do see the spirits after eden going to the light when we make it

ember temple
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Yeah

orchid crypt
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the losing emotes thing strikes me as really counterintuitive to the game's design though, when TGC wanted the game to encourage players to interact with each other

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i wonder what it would've meant lorewise though

gilded fossil
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/well, you use to get an upgrade to each emote you have left

kind bobcat
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It would've meant we were actually saving the spirits pEyes

ember temple
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the losing emotes thing strikes me as really counterintuitive to the game's design though, when TGC wanted the game to encourage players to interact with each other
Agreed

orchid crypt
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It would've meant we were actually saving the spirits pEyes
as in, the emotes are essence/memories of the spirits, rather than something we were simply taught?

gilded fossil
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/emotes cant be upgrade unless you put them in as a winged light

dense umbra
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Ooh isn't weird thay sky kids need to first see a spirit & mimic its mouvement as if they don't even know how to move/interct by them selves & are just lost & don't know who they are

gilded fossil
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/but then once taught they can squat with no problem

dense umbra
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It's like leaving a baby isolated he wouldn't know normal gestures

orchid crypt
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it's not that weird spring: sky kids knew how to scratch themselves, but "language" and "communication" is something that kinda has to be learnt/figured out

gilded fossil
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/ guess itchy is really uncomfortable

orchid crypt
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gestures only make sense when there's at least one person sending the message and one person receiving/understanding it, so it kinda makes sense that the sky kid would need to learn how to convey an idea from someone else

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something like pointing probably makes intuitive sense, but in the absence of a civilisation, how would you know that nodding means "yes" and shaking your head is "no"?

dense umbra
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Yes but I'm just trying to figure out why, that means they never saw their parents, anscastors before in person before they left them or died

gilded fossil
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/^ true, someone indiginous people dont have the nod= yes and shake= no, they have different gestures

orchid crypt
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oh right, from that angle -- i've always assumed sky kids didn't have parents

lethal stump
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same, many people think we were just...made and sent down

dense umbra
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There is gotta be more to it than that

orchid crypt
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i can't really see them growing up because i don't think they have anything to grow up to be, either -- they seem like they're already doing all that they're meant to do in the game