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I took ark pics for moon to try to explain forgotten ark story but i dunno her actual user (might tag the wrong moon)
too many moons
/lol i was about to say
heh
/anyways, i thinking of compiling all the types of clothing + percentage of appearance in each realm
Video Cutscenes of the spirits will also be helpful since you see more people around
/i mean maybe they wear different because of class and status and all that fuss
just like rl
I'll post the story of forgotten ark (my theory based on the doodles i saw) then ill find the real moon to tag @uncut pier
I believe this is the actual first pannel of the story, Forgotten ark repeats bit of the story cave drawings we see in isle. As you can see the people are praying to the stars
When the stars fell the people were overjoyed and so decided to take the fallen stars. In this case i actually dont think they're real stars but actually embers from megabird (those lines above the overjoyed people is most likely megabird)
- umbrella ppl are lightseekers
The people of course wanted more so they most likely went to hidden forest to mine light (the ||||| lines in the back look like trees and the people carried pickaxes) you can also see mining from the
spirit story
- edit: they're most likely not pickaxes but actually lightseekers running thru the realms all the way to the next panel (vault)
They took the embers to the vault scholars (u can see their vault headpieces) and they tweaked the normal light embers to be
that we see in the season of enchantment. The people took the new lights with them
With those lights they were able to make fireworks and campfire (would explain why you can buy that stuff in the shop).
GOOD MORNING PEEPS
OOOOOo
ah I forgot caps lock was on
The enchantment people became traders and it seems like they were on a journey somewhere (most likely to trade oversees)
call me Melon or KM ^^
Unfortunately a storm happened and struck them down. There are some theories about the storm but I'll leave it up to you. The ships fell in what is known now as Forgotten ark. Now some people thought
man didn't fall and was a traitor but thats wrong
because if you continue around the other side
I think those lines could represent capes
But all six have them
and there are only four 🙃
On the other side you see the krill. Which you see also on the entrance of forgotten ark
hmmm
Krill could just represent that they crashed in gw
And the small drawing that no one notices is the green light man that also fell from the storm later (which explains why their ships are all over the place)
I wish we could see lightning in ark or gw
That's all. I just wanna note that what the traders wore before falling was actually vault clothing so they look like scholars who took on trading (or for science knowledge to the other kingdoms?). When they fell they changed their clothes to adapt to the new desert since they had to survive such a harsh environment.
And the reason why i say they seem to go to a diff place is because this ship has
symbol on it instead of the king statue [which we see in shipwreck]
make sense
/yo Gink you forgot to mention
I always thought those pickaxe thing are umbrella
Mention who? Im gonna @ her rn xD just let me finish this
/no the part with umbrella
looks like a boat carrying a star
/it was most likely the light seeker people
ah i mostly think for me its just a star symbol
/and if you look around the part where the green light traitor is there are 2 more boats with 2 other colors
/it was most likely the light seeker people
Didnt the lightseeker people seek orbs of light just like the orbss wee see?
Maybe they took the orbs to the enchantment peeps
It could be jen. I just dunno their story
/i think the lightseeker people handed the vault scholars the orb
We can see the other boats fall on the other side jen
They arent other colours they are the same
/and if you look around the part where the green light traitor is there are 2 more boats with 2 other colors
not sure "who is the one who took it to vault"
Its 3 ships. 1 big 2 small
They arent other colours they are the same
/ah i mean with two other light color symbol
The enchantment people before they became traders took it to vault
/yup
I wonder if they had ever built such a large boat before, or if the Ark was a sort of test run
/ah i mean with two other light color symbol
Yes they are the same symbols check
I wonder if they had ever built such a large boat before, or if the Ark was a sort of test run
we do see another boat in gw?
/to be fair none of them have sandles comparre to none-vault people so I dont think enchantment people were traders, they were vault ppl from the start
well that boat is slightly larger than the ark one
not sure "who is the one who took it to vault"
Lightseekers i guess because we see an umbrella person in the vault mural where the conversion takes place
Okay clarification: Before said mission. Though I suppose if there’s more than one large boat they would have already had proof of concept
Jen did u read my note?
/and it dont have fancy paddles
That's all. I just wanna note that what the traders wore before falling was actually vault clothing so they look like scholars who took on trading (or for science knowledge to the other kingdoms?). When they fell they changed their clothes to adapt to the new desert since they had to survive such a harsh environment.
And the reason why i say they seem to go to a diff place is because this ship hassymbol on it instead of the king statue [which we see in shipwreck]
This note
Jen did u read my note?
/ooops did i missed it????
Its ok peeps probs missed it cuz chatting happened while i was still talking 😅
:0 which note
I missed the lightseeker season, does anyone have theories on what happened in it?
/cool stand guy wanted to impress someone with umbrella
lol
:0 which note
@edgy sequoia sefjksg sorry
I heard from someone that lightseekers introduced a small cave with three light orbs???
Yes in isle
yes
I always thought those orbs look like the ones in ark shop, without the colour
Us android people missed the other seasons story
So better ask old peeps or check the pins/youtube??
yt
/yea pins have 0 seasonal stuff
It has enchant season cutscenes 
hiiiiii
What was the story of lightseekers?
/who's hannah?
there was a final spirit there like we had to get some of the other spirits to enter that cave and find the spirit ^^
I’m Hannah 😔
incoming lore moff doc? 
anyways yeah :] we had to unlock the other emotes before getting into that cave with the piggyback spirit
👌

just seen yt
its just some bring the spirit to that area
seems like the orbs were just there
/so what happened was like a spirit gate? And collect all spirits to enter?
To me those orbs look like the raw embers of megan. Before they made artificial power diamonds
/and you need a friend also?
So if you get the spirit you have the opportunity to unlock piggyback with your friend :]
upgraded version of the piggyback
i Just saw the end cutscene for lightseekers and it has a sort of floaty light ( similar to the ones we collect )
/ah so the cave has the piggybacl
i Just saw the end cutscene for lightseekers and it has a sort of floaty light ( similar to the ones we collect )
/hey grandpa may i have a link?
so the question is are enchant people previous lightseeks or new people?
I think new
sure as long its lore related
it is bright
yea basically the piggyback upgraded emote is just opening your arms lmao
the orb hmmm 
I think those lightseeker orbs (likr the blinding one) were mixed with something with those vault scholars. Which is why we have colored lights with different powers
Also the light balls in the cave are rested on a small sculpture of a boat
that do be true
Even in praire small boat model you'll see 3 small dots representing the orbs
Yeah
/aah
Raw
You can see the same orbs in isle doodles
wheres the Diamond SAuce
/but they can just cleanse the water
What jen?
They seem to be very specific let me check the light quests
Maybe Lightseekers and Enchantment(ers) were special teams sent bye vault elder to get the lights and cleanse the land of darkness
LOL
/best janitors ever tho
/also, what if the ark never crashed
/would wasteland be.. not wasteland
its less then two hours 0.0
what less than 2 hours?
/uh, exotic wrong channel i guess>
Its ok
Does anyone know where i can get the enchantment cutscenes?
For the gradual purification of ark
/so i thought wasteland was gonna be cleaned in 2 hours
Does anyone know where i can get the enchantment cutscenes?
/hmm lemme check yt
I know there’s at least one or two videos on YT
-- Prairie - grass and flowers
-- Isle - Brings wind to the paddles/sails
-- Valley - Purifies water
-- Vault - Sets up tents
-- Forest - Sets up Shops
red light in wasteland lights up the murals
And the Isle people were nomads, right? Their wind causing the oars to move might have been incidental but if so it’s a fun coindicence
/yup
I agree also the cyan light looks like wind
Prairie one also makes sense
Valley light comes from water and is also shaped like a droplet
Red light symbol looks like the swirly clouds in the murals
I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of potions were invented in Forest. It makes sense with their sort-of industrialization that they might find them useful to everyday life
For me forest is also the scientific community of sky along with industrialisation
Since we also see elements of industrialisation in gw's first few areas
Ahhh I haven’t seen anyone talk about the enchantment season in a long time 
And the colored lights
Surprisingly most of the details were given to us by the game
except for how the light orbs were made
It was given
/yup Jay
Well, for me it was clear and solid
Idk about ur guys’s view
Lets leave the poop for now 
I can't
But someone said the poop might be the green light right?
I don't think green light is the poop
same
Idk why ppl view it as poop
/it feel from mantas
I’m sorry to interrupt, what are you all talking about here?
Yes
Is the poop there in the lore moff doc?
It's the channel where we discuss about game lore. We use our every single braincells to theorizing game story🧠
tho i don't have much braincells
Ah, ok
If you're interested to know about sky backstory then join us👀
I was in the general discussion and started to talk about the office and people said it was spoilers, so I was told to go in this discussion
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What about office?
Mmm office isn't a part of lore
I was in the general discussion and started to talk about the office and people said it was spoilers, so I was told to go in this discussion
/aaaah about that...
Mmm office isn't a part of lore
/yeaaaaaaa......
You can ask about that in #questions-and-help with spoiler tagged that word "office"
Yeah I would love to hear about sky story tho : )

You dont have to just hear, you can give your ideas and inputs too feel free to do so
You can ask about that in #questions-and-help with spoiler tagged that word "office"
/i dont think if we redirect anai to a different chat will be it lol
any ideas on how this relates to the shops?
the orange light symbol
/ i see someone typing im bracing for a wall of text
same jen

Did anyone noticed that the doors in vault basement are odd. We can see the stones used for part of wall laying nearby. Weirdly dug holes.
the orange light symbol
/grandad orange light actually looks like fire tho
phew
Did anyone noticed that the doors in vault basement are odd. We can see the stones used for part of wall laying nearby. Weirdly dug holes.
The four player door?
Again biology

/i was really waiting for text wall tho flago
@wind arch two player door.
i love it when scientific names will always be long
/also, flago, you new to lore chat? Wanna know more about lore?
two player door.
/ground 1 right?
I have lurked around here for long.@gilded fossil
lore moff doc 
haha but im sure you dont know Balaenoptera Coalescentibus!
/ahh, dont worry blu might not need it
I'm not sure if this is the right channel to ask since theres one dedicated to other tgc games as well but... has there been any theories on sky and journey being related somehow?
Inside vault’s basement
or cadytas obscuratio
nope its confirmed that sky and Journey re not related at all
No
I MEAN
SKY
GOD
NAdjsk
Sky and journey*
ITS OK I GET IT

/ im confuse who's talking to who now
THANK YOU
HAHAHA

nope its confirmed that sky and TGC re not related at all
@livid valley / thanks grillby's new crack pot theory
isle reminds me so much of journey in color palette and general feeling of aimless wandering so I always wonder when I go back to it
HHHH
But fanta journey and sky indeed looks kinda similar👀
Maybe journey is on the other side of the mountain 👀
I mean they have the same general feeling as games but I was thinking more maybe in lore... :o
Lmao sky was inspired by Journey
im spiralling
Well we all know sky realms represents stages of life... Journey goes in same way

/what
/or handholding
I got my answers in the #questions-and-help thank you guys, I know how to use spoiler tag now
no hand holding the game itself only hold 2 people
Anyway we should stay on sky related topics guys...
Maybe journey talks goes in #other-tgc-games 👀
more than inspired it just follow the same line of though since the beginning of the company, you can see elements of flower and clouds too
/guys did the orbs in light seekers exist beforre or after power diamonds
They arent really used to power stuff are they... i would say after
/that might explain the umbrellas in lightseekers
the umbrellas and capes also have smol balls
i think as a contrast to the power diamonds, they could be naturally formed
we even see the king/prince holding an orb
in the vault scene
The orbs seem to be useful for converting light into matter and force? as show from the cutscenes
so the whole world of sky could have been created from such orbs
hmmmm
with respect to the enchantment spirits, I believe there was quite some time in between each of the murals
damn i wish this was a thing in Sky
Ooo
damn i wish this was a thing in Sky
@livid valley it's
does any spirit wear that hat
damn wish it was not in office
👀
also it might relate to prince/king as before conversion into the coloured orbs, they are shown as prince symbols
agreed
true
damn wish it was not in office
We usually just pass by it without a care since we're more into cr
Bricky has a nice theory related to that image too I'll see if i can link it
thanks Gink
Ah its his lucifer theory
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
Bricky got the stolen idea because i was talking about the doodle and said this
"i think after megan gave the prince the flame, he grew greedy thinking he's the chosen one or something. causing darkness and the stars to fall, he might have stolen something from megan which caused them to fall?
im theorizing out loud"
It's the same ball that's the king holding in vault mural👀
And according to the caption of that concept in the tomcepts timeline, the ball was called "flame" or "light"
I think it was "megabirb giving the flame to the prince"
so the vault mural is the king eating the light
yeee, eat orb get buff
:0
mmm
revive chat
Not sure if this help or how i get up here. But the view is amazing
So wasteland is a multi layered fortress?
like minas tirith!!!!!!
thanks Pyre
Wasteland is what happen if minas tirith fell
Guys
It literally shows the process
Of making darkstone
It's the forest temple door
And I think it shows the inside of the temple
Im going back to my cr now hope I revived chat
oh and
mistakes learned Pyre 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSRyHNgpbR4SPjauQuU2hZhQ5sOllRZ2lcr_hFTMs_kdjmrNv-VWf3Y7StkNa8PwZ0X2yAdJs5ncOj8/pub
@fossil oxide
where's ginko in the editor section
nono
btw
the editor list...
- The species name isn’t supposed to be capitalized. That’s a small detail, it just jumped out at me
- Small dark plants would be Cadytas obscuratio minor
- For the crabs, Cancer would be the species, not the genus; I’d put them as Cryptolithodes cancer pacifae and ferox (the genus name roughly means mysterious or unknown crab)
- With spirits, Skykids, and Elders, Medius would be the genus name and therefore come first
- The devs have implied that Skykids a subspecies of the Elders, so their scientific name would be Medius stella lutum (or M. stella aleph if you go by the theory that Skykids have some part of the Prince in them)
- Pieris lux orbis and Pieris lux caeruleum — these would be subspecies, genetically distinct but not enough to warrant a new species
- Myliobatis spiritus major & minor — again, subspecies
That’s all! Overall it’s really good and I’m just excited that I get to talk about nerd stuff like this
heres something @fossil oxide hows this?
by overfriendlycriptid btw
What the topic?
Pyre hows this?
What happened here.. we can see the structure is made by solid stone..
And it broke
What in the name of king causes that
That's not the only damages there too.. there is ton of that same kind of damage shown through the realm
mhm
I really wonder what happened
If u notice its always one part of valley thats broken
Like the symmetrical tower tops in citadel. The right is broken
One possible explanation is because eden exploded and everything just got destroyed.
But we don't have any concrete
(Haha get it?no?ok) evidence that eden is the cause of this..
Yes
Citadel is covered with clouds so any rubble wouldn't be seen anymore
ur point is valid
This top part got broken but we don't see the debris
Ttyl imma read later
Yeah alright
hey guys we should do subspecies on the dandelions
ok
I'll add some humor
bye Pyre
add the latin color names on the backs of the dandelion scientific names
except for white
sure
thx
To say that eden is the cause of this.. we need to look at several different things
First is how big is the explosion.
The largest man made explosion is by the Soviet tsar bomb. Which shockwaves can destroy people's rooftop up to 100km away.. and shatter people's eardrum to 230 kilometres away.
But eden to valley isn't that far so the explosion isn't that huge.
But what I'm trying to show you here is...
Big explosion make big hole. Eden doesn't have big hole or crater (I'm not saying nuclear bombs have crater because it was exploded 2km up in the air for maximum destruction)
And ... For an explosion that cause all of the damage to STONE!!
Yeah no.. there is no possible way that Eden's exploding is the cause of all the damage in valley.. as we go back further than valley ... It will become more and more impossible that eden is the cause of it..
So then.. whats up with all of this damage we are seeing here?
In my opinion.. sky kingdom was dead or lifeless for million of years now..
For that opinion of mine.. I thought that it was cool theorize this ..
Maybe the cause of all the damage (expect on wasteland and eden) is stone deterioration..
I mean that will happen.. eventually. Because stone do degrades over time.. but it takes a looooong time.. but as I said .. maybe sky kingdom is dead for million of years.
That make this possible causes possible.. tho I agree it will conflicts with alot of evidence.
But that is my theory for the day!
But I can't explain why the bridge on forest is like damaged...
Possible smiley because they never specified how long it was in the intro. They just said a long time passed
maybe becAuse of the rain?
Hmm.. well explosion is a possible cause of all this .. just not in eden
The rain seems like an after-cause of boom tbh but possible
Maybe in orbit..
Ever heard of EMP? Basically nuclear but in space.
It will send light (small) Shockwave to the closest ground and spread the damage evenly ...
So it is possible that explosion is the cause of this.. but just not eden
Well, it has been a long time since the collapse of Civilisation. I do think it may be due to rock deterioration. Plus, water can slip in cracks of rocks and freeze, which is how rocks are broken down in cold areas
What is the cause of it? Not sure.. maybe megabird sneezed too hard lol
Butterfly I agree
what if the embers dropped by megabird is actually snot-
Wh-
Ironically at the same moment I said that.. I sneeze..
Damn you megabird that exist irl
bruh
Ironically at the same moment I said that.. I sneeze..
Damn you megabird that exist irl
@mild lark what if you are megabird


everyone is megabird 
Woah.. thats end up making me want to sneeze more
these theories of mine are getting chaotic and out of hand oml-
/hi guys any new crackpot theories
valley building cracked
My weird one about Lamed inducing you into a hallucinatory state
from some time ago
that was wild
valley building cracked
/eeh?
I think the rest of Vault's floor isnt real
since you get teleported to a broken floor after you visit the elder

/well
/technically
/everyone is genderless
/devs said they genderless, age less, basically they just rocks
I think most of the elders look male
Could the Megabird be called "the Light" now?
/devs said they genderless, age less, basically they just rocks
@gilded fossil moving rocks?
I realised that the place where we do rebirth is called "the Light"
/the light is Orbit
And then the title is "Children of the Light"
I think the friend comstellation could also be the Eden/Orbit constellation
When you got to the point if no return, go to homespace, there's the words "The Light calls"
Could that be a new name for the Megabird?
Orrrr....
We never see the name "Megabird" anymore in the current lore, but there is something called "the Light" now
Sooo the light=megan?
What if we are children of Megan?
Maybe orbit is megan

Orbit IS a part of Megan
OH-
I think the light is just a pretty vague and simple term to refer to that place, giving away almost nothing
True, but... There's a lot of things in Sky that are like that
A lot of things are vague in Sky
what's vague again
yeah, but I refer to the idea of take that as a name for megabird... mmmm idk
Sky's story is vague bc it depends on your pov. You make the story lol
Well, the Megabird is believed to be the ultimate manifestation of light, so...
/Zeryle u new here?
Well, that's how I see Megan anyway
/and lamed's daughter you newwtoo?
no, why are you asking? Jen
Not reallyy
Lamed's been here for a while
lol
My name is taiga btw lmao

/ i jusst want the lore moff bomb
💣

I haven't really get into the lore, but what I had read still let a lot to the imagination and I love that, I want more new info but at the same more questions
/well, i think, since the friend constellation and the mural depicting Eden in the all elders cutscenes are the same thing
/and the friends list is called the light
[ offtopic but i read friend as fried for a sec
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/so game telling you to go to the light means your just going to eden
About mural. The other day I saw one with Daleth the Isle Elder.. but I can't remember where I can be seen in Isle
oh maybe that cave ?
About mural. The other day I saw one with Daleth the Isle Elder.. but I can't remember where I can be seen in Isle
/point emote cutscene i believe
mmhm
ptobably in Rejecting Voyager's cave?
I already read all 
point emote cave
Whos daleth and whos alef???- i keep calling isle elder alef😭
daleth is isle elder
daleth is isle
alef is prince
By Bricky
/Butterfly i was so busy typing i forgot lolz thanks man
Alef is prince I think
Imma just call him dal
cute nickname for isle elder though
/Gramp Dal
heh
That's explain why I didn't remember seeing it in a loooong Time.. that memory cannot be relieved easily
The place where we rebirth was referred to "The Light" if you get all stuff from a constellation
does someone need elder names ?
Nope i just thought alef was isle elder
does someone need elder names ?
/so this is how we summon bricky btw
Yeah sure why not. There are a couple of names I need to refresh
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince/Not Corrupt King: Alef (א)
Corrupt King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
/ me i need names raise hand_
When we go to home space at the point of no return, the text at the return place says "The Light calls"
And The Light was the name given to the place we rebirth
Soo... I was thinking... Could that be the new name of the Megabird in the current lore?
Off topic but why do we wear masks?
Plus, the title of the game is "Children of THE LIGHT"
/i know someone without mask
up to you, taiga
Plus, the title of the game is "Children of THE LIGHT"
/children of megan????
many questions we do not have answers to
Maybe? It was theorized we were brought to life by Megan
and the friend constellation crown name is the light too... how do we connect that?
Or it could also be the big light we fly to in Orbit
wdym jen ?
Bricky, I think in a document of yours there is a note about Reika answering you about the Archive Cube symbols
As if those were more like sigils or emblems, correct?
not my doc, but yes I’ve read that
is there a problem ?
/i mean
/the light is refered to the friends constellation and orbit
/friend crown and eden has the same shape
/if we children of the light
/we're probably children of orbit
King
Wait a sec, did the friend constellation change in the past?
It was slightly different👀
Amio pleased refrain from posting nonsense and random emojis
Because in older videos, it looks different
Owh sure... Sorry
The older versions look EXACTLY like the King constellation...
Because in older videos, it looks different
/yup! before it looked exac-
with the 8 pointed crown ?
/jinx
i don’t think i’ve seen this, could one of you send a pic 
!wiki
/they still havent update it
The second image is what the favorite friend cinstellatiin looked like in the past
/wait you used to have ability to access friend list in eden???
Maybe? The screenshot is from an older video
I just watched a different video, but has the exact same constellation
No but i remember during rhythm .. we can see only a crown there( in orbit)
/yup that's the one
The crown also looked like this in a different video
Its the exact same as the King's constellation
/it was a bit to small too see in android and hard to tap so they made it bigger!
/patch 9 or sth
It's the same crown we see the king wearing in vault cutscene btw
Yeah, thats exaclty what I said
Makes me wonder if another reason they changed it was because it looked suspicious...
I wish they kept the old design tho
they changed many things after Android launch
true
Why didn't they change the one in the Vault cutscene? Would it be too suspicious?
Like they removed friend constellation in orbit... Also The light circle of this emote 
Oh...
thats sad
I'm still questioning why they didn't change the constellation in Vault tho... Either they made a change to their lore, or they realised it would be suspicious
Soo... I guess, in canon, that King constellation was meant to be the same as ours
They only changed it for practical reasons, but they're meant to be the same or at least related
More fuel for theory making! 
the fuel is coffee
/okay but on a technical standpoint
The fuel is wasteland water
/old constellation was breed ground for frustration due to the fact it is hard to tap on the right friend
/and
/the vault cutscene is a fixed video rather than something that exist in the game
/sooo it's a bit hard to fix both at once
Sooo... It's meant to be our friend constellation
/yea i think so too!

@hushed steeple is it safe tho
@livid valley / guys wasteland water is made of gatoroid
Gasoline hmm
/ ~~well it is safe to drink ~~
grill....
Well, if it's polluted with darkness, then I guess that means its flammable 
did we do the dandelion sub species?
guys?
there are several types of dandelion
red... blue
Sorry im scared to edit it
ok :DDD
can someone tell us what colors are there?
we know white
purple
pink
yellow
is that it?
same species
/just different colors
different subspecies
so their scientific names have little word at the end
rosea
for pink
sooooooo
yeaaaa
Taraxacum volitare rosea
ill write them down
grill pls make a list
Taraxacum volitare purpura
aight
Taraxacum volitare rosea-pink
Taraxacum volitare purpura-purple
Taraxacum volitare flavo-yellow
Aight
Anima medius
nice
Lol
Hi
hi Ger!
Was thinking spirit mantas should also be anima
/ger are you neww
nah hes not
lore doc intensifies
Was thinking spirit mantas should also be anima
@lyric isle oh cosmic mantas right?
I still can’t believe I was intensely chanting ANIMA SALTADOR [dancer spirit] earlier
AHAHa
It like saying Harry potter spell
Myliobatis Spiritus-spirit manta
Spiritus is spirit more in the sense of saying life
‘good spirits’
hmm i see
Anima is spirit in the sense of ghost
it also means soul
Sorry if I’m nagging about this. Just a criticism you could include.
bffsrvstagsrv Latin student
but not meaning to shove it in faces
dont worry i always take criticism
It’s not “aha I study Latin I know more about this than you” at all
I really don't care if u meant that
I just wanna get it correct
what do u suggest
The spirit/cosmic manta binomens to be changed from [X] spiritus to [X] anima
it’s a more accurate word I think
for this context of ‘spirit’
well comparing the Myliobatis Anima and Myliobatis Anima Major both should be labeled as subspecies?
Probably, yes.
hello ummm isnt whale a neutral creature
yeah, is it not listed as such ?
According to one of the concepts the whale is the final version of the manta's forms.
/ taxonomy again?
According to one of the concepts the whale is the final version of the manta's forms.
ummm really ? isnt the final is elder manya
and they look so different aswell
If it's wrong I will edit it to neutral no idea who put it there in the first place
Give suggestions to help use improve the doc 👌
How about including the daylight Prairie fairy ring?
it’s been included iirc
Parasola circulus <--
Yeah , my fault 😂
Are we sure that the Whale is a light creature?
The Elder manta is , i dk about the whale
most assume it’s a neutral creature
Yeah, ok
it’s not meant to be under light creatures afaik
OKAY, That's what i was thinking
Also, what about the sea weeds in Valley lake
Ummmm
I don't think they were there when I saw it iirc
i am crazy, I know, it's okay😂
nah were crazy we even named the moss
Lol yeah
Lol yeah, oreo is oreo tho
its Canis Familiaris
Canis familiaris
Lol
Oh lol

Wait, are sky clouds made of water???
that’s the likely option
/yes? no? probably?
most likely yeah
Or LIGHT ,since water doesn't recharge sky kids
/it could have been made of carbon
No, they're probably made of light+water
make sense
they are made of megabird poop
carbon ? why carbon ?
Light creatures are confirmed to be born from the clouds
Maybe some water has light?
/well, idk, im doing chemistry hw rn. Car bon's pretty cool and it can float really well, a bit dense so it can recharge you
I mean, there's the blue light which purifies water, soo...
Then why doesnt forest water not rain recharge us
Oh, true
watah is butiful
Also, in gw we see the diamond factory krill coming out of impure water
The water probably has darkness. (Not the plants, but darkness itself)
Yeah, like how Light Creatures are born from clouds
Yeah, like how Light Creatures are born from clouds
@thin dirge
Did the devs confirm that?
Its in the canon lore doc, but I may have interpreted it wrong
Lemme check again
So I guess this kinda confirms it?
Ooo
Lol
It says they are born from light,
could dark creatures be made the same way ?
Yeah, its possible
Yeah, like the krill in the factory
probably
They didn't specify whether it's dark or light creatures, maybe all of them are born from light and some get corrupted
"all?"
They just said "creatures", that includes both light and dark creatures
absolute crackpot theory: krills and crabs are light creatures too
Maybe they are corrupted light creatures but light creatures by origin
I'm starting to prefer the theory of Krills being Dark Creatures again
absolute crackpot theory: krills and crabs are light creatures too
/yes my neew fav
I mean if light is the base of life in sky.. yeah maybe
no
no just light creatures
not corrupt or anything
hmmm
I always imagined there being a counterpart to light like Yin and Yang, which is why I also think Darkness can work the same way was Light
But the game itself says "dark creature crabs" in the quest

Or at least similar
And krills are called dark dragon?
Well, the crabs are definitely not originally dark creatures, at least for me
If energy come from light.. it would make sense why krill need light you know
yea Krills is just a community name
Darkness may need Light to exist
its pretty obv since the game called them dark dragons and we call them krills
Well, the crabs are definitely not origibally dark creatures, at least for me
@thin dirge that's what I'm thinking, maybe the darkness took over their light in some later point of their life
Dark dragon.. doesn't even look like a lizard
So, it's like light needs darkness and darkness needs light
Well, the Forgotten Ark gives hints
The murals in the area of the Forgotten Ark implies that crabs aren't dark creatures, or at least weren't before
but in all seriousness i really dislike the « dark creatures are just corrupt light creatures » theory cause devs said that sky has a rich ecology of light and dark, which says to me that the two types of creatures have always existed and must exist
it just doesn’t make sense for something implied to be natural to an ecosystem be just a « corrupt » version of something else
That's probably why they changed the corruption ideas in the concept of the lore
But then why this ,
It's referring to Light Creatures, I'm sure
But the dev said in the answer "The creatures in sky"
we never see dark creatures come out of clouds
only light creatures
they’re talking about light creatures
Exactly
true
So then cloud are breeding ground for light creature
seems so
Dark water for Krills then? If they do indeed emerge from dark water in Wasteland
They go to sneep I guess..
Like it wasn't born for that specific moment imo
yeah
and also when you spawn in, you can see crabs come in from the ground
so while light creatures are sky based, dark creatures are earth based
hmm if it only come out of water how does it come up from such the shallow waters
maybe it’s not whole when underwater
Well, it's not like it was living in the water
« coming together like atoms »
The darkness accumulated and formed the krill
so they can just turn itself into atoms
I think we need to take that with a grain of salt because maybe the krill model was just resting under the map.. and only come out until we open the door or enter the first krill area
and vanish into thin air
To save some computing power.. no?
Also, we can pass thru them, right?
yeah
So, they aren't solid then
We also pass through Mantas
Maybe they are fluid
Then how krill can hit us
Yeah
magic hahaha
Unexplainable= magic
Now.. I do think that.. wasteland make acid rain
But I don't have anything to back that up
mhm theres no known reality discovery about hitting a object in a solid state and be passed through so its definitely magic
I still working on my theory that the majority of the damage we see is stone deterioration
i agree with that

Anyone here?
Does eden spoiler tags implemented here?
nope !
thank go
Eyo guys did you hear about the glitch fix updates? Am I allowed to talk about that here?
Nope
I just wanted to know if home glitch is fixed?
I don't know
Lorerelated only
I was wondering what yall thoughts about the ending, why did everything got destroyed? I do not understand
Y-yes😳
lore doc incoming
brace the impacT

Yes welcome.. we here like to make crazy theory
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By Bricky
canon is probably made by TGC and Fanon is made by fans
Is this stair really this unsymmetrical and very messy from the start?
Or is it a design choice?
true
valley architectures cant see their drawings because of the twins messing with them
Lol
I cant acces those links when opened from here
hm?
?
what does it say
You will be transported to your web browser normally
so you mean you cant access it?
It says dyk facts about discord lmao
what
new poop discovery hm
Have we discovered what poop is?
That looks painful
which?
Sand?
are you saying about the poop? diamond shaped thing? a little more specific please thanks
Nah they're asking if their skykid is lore related 
Lol that have been alot of theories already
you can go try and search if you wanna to
Any theories regarding the, when the darkness came? Who made the darkness and krills
We dont actually know what "the darkness" is
Could be a metaphorical or literal darkness
Better not, it's scary.
In some theories "the darkness" might be the prince/king.
Wait- something tells me when there's light, there's always darkness
if i say the word for the theory i'll summon bric
😳😳😳
hi
told you
ive been summoned ?
inhale
The lucifer theory, about "the darkness" in the opening cutscene 
Bricky can hear his name even when he’s not been pinged
anyways gtg
take this
Lucifer Theory
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
told you
bye Bricky!
bricky has some suspicious 4 dimentional stuff going on
I cant open links like thattt😭
Wait is megabird the big ball of mantas?
Open it with the discord app, not browser.
no
@real tendon could be.
lol in my opinion Megan made all
Thats discord app
Markii I have that problem before too..
The megabird could be the light itself, an embodiment of the rebirth cycle
What did you do
Or a collective of all light creatures combined.
All we know is that it's likely the megabird is an abstract entity.
Something with no permanent form
I don't know what I did.. I don't remember but I think I asked help at #questions-and-help
There's also many theories.
Possibly megabird
The narrator could be :
- Megabird
- The child of light
- Prince / King
- Isle elder
- You
- Someone else
What if megabird just has a disease infection, and were the wbc fighting the darkness😭😭😭
._.
👁️ 👁️
Imo
Megabird is incorruptible
theres no evidence for that ;-; (Markii's one)
Is the storm also caused by the darkness?
Possibly.
Funny thing is, the eden diamond is actually a fractured power diamond, and judging by its looks, it's loaded with light 
You can make a headcanon of your own.. everything is possible but if you're truly want to figure out what happened in sky ....
Uuhh let's say we dont have alot going on here .
The Devs made sky lore purposely vague so people can go crazy with their theory..
Why does it spill deadly rocks?
mhm
Maybe its being controlled
any evidence?
Could also be hail being made from pure darkness 
In Sky, darkness is usually represented by dark colors and blue tone.
Eden is red, so personally i think it represents something else
agreed
Red means death and destruction 
Red mean danger
wh-
hell
Red means dange-
They still are at the beginning
We can see flakes raining too.
Eden used to look like valley too right im assuming?
Look like dust raining down
Judging by architecture, yes.
And pipes like in gw
That's why common theory here is that eden exploded and world go skaduussh
Golden wasteland is in a pretty low location in the world i think it used to look like venice back in the days
Or no
Maybe valley is just super high
What about the broken castle thing on top of eden? Is that supposed to be where the eden elder is? Did it broke when the storm started?
Clouds: how do they work?
oh yeahhhhhhhhhhhh
/whee have you seen lore moff doc
they turn red when u touchem
/ please be no please be no
nooooooo



