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Do we see the Cresent/eclipse after hugging the chile?
What is this can anyone answer me
Context ?
Where are you?
Is that valley
Bird???
Thas George
Looks like a mantabird
It’s a manta that I found out of bounds, and me and my friends named him George
looks like a bird doe
But nothing rlly lore related
Idk why a random manta strayed off over there
at least from this angle
Issa manta
It's mantabird
Believe it’s the one from the flying race
Sometimes, manta and krill movement in game gets weird and jarring and they twist their limbs maybe it's a twisted manta
Yea
@wind arch I had a look for previous conversations on the sun/moon and it seems the crescent is also visible in ark through the clouds
it is!
Woah
the lands are far apart right that’s why we use the portals but
is it the same time we are accessing in all lands?
wdym?
are we going to the same point in time for all the lands?
That would only be possible if the plant didn't spin on its axis
Which is possible ( I think there's one in rl
has anyone made a transcript of these bells?
It's kinda ambiguous depending on what you believe
Yes raf check the pins
personally I believe they are separate realms
I love how on board this community is 
but it could be either until further notice
seperate how?
All realms are separate
like 7 different realms rather than one at different points in time
Time never changes in the realms right, they r themed ln the times of day
oh yeah I also think that
Time stopped somehow.... time used to change before ... Probably before we came
I just mean is it the same time for all- we visit isle at the same time period as vault
or are we visiting vault decades before when we visit forest
Maybe vault is on the other side of the planet so it's night
My examples aren’t great but I hope you get what I’m asking
vault might me underground too, or partially under ground
I didn’t consider that thank you for the new view 
Time used to change like our in real life... But something happened that stopped the time for forever
Actually I think the portals at home are just a game mechanic? You wouldn't want to get to vault from isle
Imo eden caused a shockwave so strong it disrupted the rotation of the planet
oh ty that’s makes sense 
thats just my theory doe 
Actually I think the portals at home are just a game mechanic? You wouldn't want to get to vault from isle
@wind arch So in lore perspective we start at dawn in isle and make our way through the day
Yess ofc im just looking for other opinions
Isle-dawn
Prairie-morning
Forest-noon
Valley-sunset
Wasteland-dusk
Vault-night
Eden-night
Actually I think the portals at home are just a game mechanic? You wouldn't want to get to vault from isle
That is an interesting viewpoint
yeah I never thought it was a one day journey 
But the idea that time is fixed is possible too, if the planet stopped spinning
I've evidence that Time used to change in realms
if the planet of sky indeed has stopped spinning that would be a big problem 
considering that one day Journey theory & time stopping theory, is it possible an eclipse happened on the day we are travelling/ the day the diamond exploded?
If it is an eclipse
not sure if it is a moon or eclipse
And could that correlate to why the diamond exploded?
Possibly
I know it got over powered but could the eclipse have cause that affect, pushed the diamond overboard?
maybe, my theory is just that they were messing with forces beyond their control and it overloaded the diamond
But the issue is that most of the focus of the game is on stars and not much about the sun
!!! Ty!!!
Wow
but the eclipse might have something to do with it too
Tidal lock
Not orbital lock**
Yeah I would love to know who made this 
Yeah would explain fixed time
And i agree that the planet is a gas giant lol
The put the realms on the golden ratio...
In the diagram above
U can see the curve in the pic
I know a bit about the golden ratio but .... In sky
thank you for theorising with me grandpa 
Mai pleasure
sleep well

Gnight gramps
The question I have about the gas giant theory is how would it explain the abundance of liquid water under the stratosphere, I do not know much about astronomy and planetary sciences but I think the temperature would not permit liquid water to form
I wanna add vids of something that i discussed before about the butterfly emote
Also good night grandpa
@hushed steeple please do not post artwork you didn’t make
Top tier lores here?
@keen patrol ?
But i told someone made that... And forgot who.. well okay..
Hideous-quality spirit lore
I'm sorry for my ignorance but what is a skyscrit
still, i can type it now hee hee
I shoulda made place holders for the missing letters doe

https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/741005387020632125
just wanna post a vid regarding this and edit something i said before 
Butterfly voluntarily sharing light (basically like when we honk to recharge except one buttefly recharges one wedge approx each)
While when we emote we hold one butterfly and force it to give us its light (it even recharges faster and can recharge us fully)
The pink shine of the butterfly reminds me of the red color of stormlock diamonds where something is drained basically (thats my edit)
since it would make sense as butterflies have been used in the making of power diamonds. which is why they'd (power diamonds) have the color yellow when the gates are charged/opening (butterflies are yellow in clr) and also when the red rocks of stormlock hit us they have a yellow color too
sorry the vids are short can't post longer vids;;

So the Butterfly Charmer was possibly in a sense part of this industry?
yeah
we did use butterflies to open oreo's gate
and the gate there shows the pic of a butterfly
->
(king/eden/prince)
Yep.
@hushed steeple it doesn’t matter if you said you didn’t make it the rules state to not post artwork you didn’t make at all
I understand seraph
Sorry for the mess
Why does rain drain our energy but not water on the ground and when swimming?
Isle-dawn
Prairie-morning
Forest-noon
Valley-sunset
Wasteland-dusk
Vault-night
Eden-night
@hushed steeple Eden is Dawn
some theorize that the rain in forest would be somewhat like acid rain
Eden is 3am chaos
I see Eden as the wee hours of the morning
We can see the moon in storm lock after we hug the shiny boi
Eden is midnight storm
- googles ascent *
gets car in images

Isn’t Eden Storm ?
Ya
I mean you can see the moon in wasteland too, in ark so
it is a storm but we're talking about the time
vault = midnight?
isnt dusk = sunset?
Yes Vault is night
Storm - Dawn
Orbit has no indicated time here:
Source: https://m.imgur.com/a/iGkSRIX (from the pins)
Seeing the moon is not exclusive to night time though, I can see the moon at 5-6 am in the morning irl.
I can see the moon at 7 or 8 sometimes
😶
Do you guys remember that picture of the season teaser listing the number of items in the season
Does anyone else have a similar picture of a different season? Because if it only lists the cosmetics of the shown spirits as well, then there’s probably a 5 quest giver spirit not shown there
I JUST HAD A BIG BRAIN MOMENT
SO YOU KNOW HOW OUR HAIR GOES BLACK WHEN WE LOSE OUR FLAME
BLACK IS ABSENCE OF COLOR
OUR SKYKIDS GET THEIR COLORS FROM FIRE
:0
NOT TO MENTION THE BLEACHED CAPE
:○
What did I miss?
Brain so wrinkly you got iq 10000000
Krills are black, it’s canon they steal light as well as other dark creatures
Sorry but isn’t that common knowledge? We are the children of ‘Light’ after all. Light is made up of all colours of the rainbow because they represent all of the different wavelengths???
You guys probably already know this haha but I just noticed today that there are five “faces” on the Eden portal, and there are five figures in the new teaser photo :0
those faces are the elders uwu
oh right!!! Im just saw the two halves of the valley twins in the corner, opps I thought they were different

I mean ngl they do have pretty funky masks
Five spirits = five prophets sent to each realm, though usually seasons tend to have events that group spirits into a single region
okay but like, my current skid theory is that we're a conduit for light to materialize into the world
well, only the last two seasons have done that, Lamb
well, it's four spirits and the quest giver so 
all seasons before that have had one spirit per realm
I think it'll probably have a new area called "the prophecy grounds" or something
6 spirits & a quest giver
It’s not confirmed if the quest giver is among them
Now that seasons are in one specific location there is no longer any need to provide 6 spirits though
In the past the quest giver has had their own concept art, separated from the rest
They could be changing things up
yeah, now they can group the cosmetics to one spirit so each one can have a cape, mask and hairstyle
or at least most of them
that's how the winter season functioned actually
in pre live it was only 4 spirits
and no quest giver iirc
And after winter every single season has had one
I think the spirits were dance, welcome, juggle and think
yeah the new masks are related to that old concept art iirc
tgc has been implementing a bunch of old concept art into sky as of late
Because of that people think that this season will be littered with lore
did you know the ark in wasteland was actually in concept art?
Someone said the other day the original elders were suppose to be spirits but I haven’t fact checked that yet
it was an ark intended for royalty
forgotten ark and king ark are different, though
But I’ll believe it somewhat
they were called ancestors at one point though, i believe
they knew eachother in orbit before falling
Like animal face masks
I guess you can still kinda consider them ancestors
No, she was a Lynx
I hope this season is dripping in lore to be honest, its so much more interesting. The word ‘Prophecy’ seems pretty telling that it might uncover some hidden secrets
why isle?
That’s probably because it’s also the smallest realm
But they’ve only done restoration seasons for gw and prarie so far so there’s a good chance isle is next
i feel like vault would be a good candidate as well, since its so mysterious you know?
Yeah, basically 3/6 of the current worlds are up for candidate
Although forest hasn’t had a restoration season I doubt they would add another large area anytime soon
and they’ve said they have plans to add to valley too, so make that 4/6
Valley has had some very minor additions though so idk if it would count
I’d like it to be in either Eden or vault, i feel like these two areas are the most vague
what would they even add to valley though
imagine if we got to go inside the eden mountain 
i hope something that tells us more about their society
I think it would be hard to add a large new area to isle without causing confusion to new players. We don’t want to throw them off
that is a good point!
Im only counting candidacy as worlds that haven’t had a large area added yet
make it so you need every isle spirit to enter 
gameplay wise we dont even collect seasonal candles in isle for that exact reason
In season of Lightseekers they solved that problem by making it so that you needed every other lightseeker spirit in order to get to the isle one
I just want more isle love okay 
was it every other spirit?
I thought it was just 3
or 2
5/5
it was 1 i think
I remember this very distinctly because of the disappointment I got when I found where it was
that's what I'm saying, if you have every isle spirit you get access to the prophecy grounds
that's what I'm calling the (presumed) new area for now btw
In belonging they made the spirit area on the newly renovated island to the right of the temple
im very confused i just took one look at this channel and my braincells died
it's definitely gonna be called the season of prophecy though
that just makes way too much sense
well we dont know that
That way, it wouldn’t confuse any curious moths along the path and it’d just be apart of their newfound journey
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Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information. 
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we have literally seen 1 (one) teaser image with a single phrase so far
yes
that's just what I think it will be called 
The promo looks as if the spirits are looking at an opening inside a dark area / cave
Someone posted a picture of the same teaser image here Saturday morning (like 1-5 am) with a list of the number of cosmetics posted in the right hand corner. So if anyone has a similar image of a different season I want to see if that list only names the cosmetics of the spirits shown, because if it does, then the possibility of a 6th spirit skyrockets
I hope it’s vault
I hope it is isle
There are teaser images on the wiki
Why do geysers replenish our light
@lethal stump with the number of cosmetics listed?
not on the images themselves, but the cosmetics are listed in the wiki
why does it have to be listed in the image ?
the wiki has all the past cosmetics on it, and you can pick through it to see if you can find any similarities
This is the first time that TGC has posted a teaser this early. I don’t think there are any images that take the teaser and outline hey I think these are the the available cosmetics because by the time there were teasers beta already was testing the cosmetics
yeah, it's definitely very odd 
and if you need to know the cosmetics, they are listed alongside their spirit in the wiki
maybe they wanted to hype people up more before putting the season for beta testing?
i think they like seeing lore chat explode 
Now, I will be looking through all 45 pages of the wiki’s images
So if you’ll excuse me
Why do geysers replenish our light
I imagine this is a similar reason to why rain hurts us, if there is something in the rain that harms us, then i can only guess that there is something in the geysers that replenish our light
Please don’t share/talk about hacked or illegitimately obtained content on the server. The new season hasn’t even begun testing in beta, so any content about the season is not legitimate.
TGC is going to wipe beta access before the next season starts
oh I wasn't talking about that xynth
New season content isn’t in the new beta builds in a fair way. Please do not discuss or trade about it
Someone posted an image here Saturday morning, around 1-5 am with the teaser but with a listed of the number of cosmetics listed in the right hand corner
I meant the emblem, not any actual things in it
So let me find that first
regardless, anything that's in beta now is beta content and not to be discussed here
In about 20-30 minutes depending on how much lore exploded between now and then
Well then let’s discuss the emblem specifically raf
So if anyone has a similar image of a different season I want to see if that list only names the cosmetics of the spirits shown, because if it does, then the possibility of a 6th spirit skyrockets
@still valve such an image does not exist
hacked content is a big no-no, why would I talk about it 
Except it’s also beta only so we should discuss it here
emblem ? like the season symbol ?
be it beta or hacked content, it has no place in this channel
anyways, I really hope it is only four spirits
it makes the season feel more
I dunno
contained?
but there are five spirits in promo?
for example, lightseekers was all over the place
four and quest giver is what I'm guessing
ah
all lightseekers spirits to my knowledge have masks, but then three have capes while the other three have instruments?
im feelin like the quest giver is gonna be « looked for » as some people are theorizing
and then everyone has hair except 
here's a picture from the wiki of the Gratitude help page
5 spirits here, but there were 6 and a questgiver
it'll be interesting to see what TGC chooses to do
in pre live there was no sassy stance because isle was radically different
this is the global version
at least, the wiki says it's from the global version of Sky
it's reused art from the pre live gratitude iirc
notice how all of them wear the yoga cape
and not the dismiss one
they shifted around the cosmetics and created the weasel mask, but used old art for the promo
exactly
it's possible that the promo art will be different than the final one
though I do hope it will have less spirits this next season
if the next season IS in a new area in isle, six spirits would just feel cluttered
since 6 spirits were kind of more for the 1 spirit per realm, it would make sense now to have less (or even more, tbh)
lore-wise there's technically no reason to have 6 spirits per season
since TGC has now gotten rid of the 1 per realm
well, not really gotten rid of
perhaps briefly suspended
i always thought they were meant to correspond to the elders tbh
iirc every new season will add a new area now
We don’t really know. It’s up to TGC what they do every season
for Belonging, at least, each family member got lost in a different realm or something iirc
but didn't enchantment have six spirits in the same area?
yeah
oh yeah, forgot about sanctuary
who is to say this next area won't be large as well
or was it stated somewhere?
I don't think they have stated either way
it wasn't explicitly stated no
anyways, if there is indeed a sixth spirit, I find it interesting that they were not featured
there's three possibilities
- no new area
- small expansion (ex. Isle side cave/island gets expanded)
- whole new area (ex. Pineswood, Sanctuary, etc.)
we're missing a 6th spirit and the questgiver
oh yeah
but considering that sanctuary isn't even close to being done yet and we already have a teaser, it'll probably be smaller than other areas
unless the middle spirit is the questgiver, they seem to stand out
then where’s the 5th and 6th spirit 
my guess is there aren't any
bye Raf!
byeee!

my guess is that there are two missing spirits, explicitly not shown due to some sort of relevance
yeah
Beware the Prophecy
has an ominous sound to it
would honestly be interesting to have a shorter questgiver
if it's the middle one
imagine how much people would bully them 
far too many 
yesss
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
“Such an image doesn’t exist” @lethal stump
Now there’s the matter of it’s authenticity
When TGC announced the title “Beware the prophecy”. I thought the season will be held in vault. Because vault’s were mainly scholars. The clothings look like high level manta.
@broken basin where did you get the image from?
I made it myself
I'm sorry.
If it had been from an official source we could’ve looked for similar images of past seasons, because that would’ve highly raised the chances of a 6th quest spirit existing should they had only listed the spirits shown as well
But time to search for clues elsewhere
And by elsewhere I mean waiting
@broken basin it’s ok
Just do mention self made images next time pls
Did anything bad happened due to it??? Did someone got mislead.
If it's smthn like that, I deeply apologize.
I did
Oh, I'll remeber to mention from now on
Sorry for any confusion
Yeah from a new lore user’s perspective or someone who hasn’t met you before
A literal wild goose chase
I do give you props for making it look so nice I thought it was official @broken basin
Should’ve noticed the font or something
Hehe, thanks tho. Hope I don't make a mistake like that agian 😊
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
“Such an image doesn’t exist” @lethal stump
@still valve I wasnt referring to that, i was referring to you saying « does this exist for other seasons too »
Well then you should’ve said “such images don’t exist”
Semantics
Proper grammar and wording counts when you’re talking about lore
bold of you to assume grammar exists but that’s a topic for another day
back to lore, guys
Semantics is part of the definition of grammar 🤦♂️ but ok back to lore
my guess is there aren't any
Same, raf
with new seasons and content arriving, it's always a good idea to clearly mark all created content just in case someone gets confused
the link that Ton gave said « this isn’t official » in the text part of the message
I actually haven't seen LoneWolf's pictures, so I'm happy to have seen it!
Sometimes you don’t see text
I saw someone else's two days ago that tried to find similarities
It’s at the top
oh, if it's clearly marked, the creator did their job
Well, as I already said, I am sorry, I have edited that image to include the text, and I won't do a mistake like that again
Like how sometimes when you’re typing and someone posts an image exactly at the same moment you post your message
So you predict trooserz?
it looks like we might get a coat
C O A T ?
lore-wise, it'll be interesting to see more clothing styles
And again the image is quite eye catching so I don’t believe the message was obvious
y e s
Yeah, the bottom has the cut like a suit/coat
I hope that instrument item has a cool purpose!
I wonder how the flying mechanics would work
Btw, let's not forget that these chats should be done in #seasons-events-chat . 
let's continue this chat there
Ok!
I wonder if our sky children originally couldn't express emotions at first since they're made out of pure light, it's like they're empty shells but with light inside
I believed that at one point.
I thought one time the spirits in a sense (intentionally?) teach us how to express emotion
You know, it feels like as if we're emotionless robots or something which exist to save others but we learn a ton of things on our journey
I used to find them cute
now I honestly find them slightly unnerving
and I love it
kind of creepy-cute
The spirits you mean?
Or sky children in general?
Yeah if you dive deep into the possible backstories of our sky children... It all gets quite dark
I still can't get the last few words of the narrator in the beginning of the game experience out of my head
Skykids.
the spirits make me feel this
very very weird euphoria and intrigue
Something about them just makes me feel...comforted?
I wonder what he meant when he said "If only the fallen stars had listened"
The fallen stars made a new home on the clouds, but it was apparently something they endlessly regret later on
The narrator was probably the king
He most likely warned them
And I think that he can not be saved anymore because the fallen stars did not listen to the warns
They left him behind like that

Something about them just makes me feel...comforted?
@lyric isle Yeah. It almost makes you think of them as your parents
they passed the vibe check
they make me feel happy for inexplicable reasons
It's like as if you're creating childhood memories with them
That's why it feels so familiar and warm
I have said this a thousand times, but I’m so excited for being able to rewatch the cutscenes
Learning all those emotions as a sky child might help you remember wholesome experiences from back when you were a young child
my favorite were the season of enchantment spirits
It's like as if you're exploring your own childhood memories in-game
The season of enchantment spirits gave off really silly yet wholesome vibes
They were all so lively

I honestly want Sanctuary over sooner just to have the Enchantment gang be in the pool
I got only Crab Walker’s hat
I like to think of it as a souvenir
why is Enchantment underrated
I do want to see what the bells are gonna do 🤔
Sorry for drifting off-topic.
Enchantment was never underrated, it was hyped the whole season and when it didn’t even start
We simply don’t talk about it much bc a new season started lol
Ah
Now everyone wants to talk about vacation and manta and cute manta suits
But overall, we can’t jus keep the hype of an old season forever
Well, I know.
ye I just saw it at the wrong time
When the new prophecy season comes out, I’m pretty sure sanctuary is gonna be in the dark pretty soon
That don’t mean it was underrated tho
With a name like <<season of prophecy>>, you can already presume some major lore ties
Maybe keeping/starting the hype train early is why they decided to reveal it this way unlike past seasons
I’d imagine lore chat would be on caffeine and Red Bull 24/7 after its release, or when the beta testers get it
No beta content in lore, says king bricky
There was no content named there
I meant like probably lore chat wont be discussing until live update instead of when beta gets it
If beta content ascertained to lore though it’d be okay wouldn’t it?
I wonder if our sky children originally couldn't express emotions at first since they're made out of pure light, it's like they're empty shells but with light inside
@frank hazel I think this is like true but with the spirits memorys they started to learn how to feel.
I have to ask bricky though
We are a spoiler tagged channel
Let’s see if they say anything in the rules
The community generally agrees that the following things are spoilers:
- Anything after the door to Eye of Eden (but not the word Eden)
- What the 8-player puzzle unlocks
- Anything in the secret level including what it is ||(office)||
- Beta content that is not live or not meant to be accessible (all beta content stays in the beta channels)
Hmm yeah alright
Guess that just means lore chat is gonna flood beta chat
So it won’t be any different
A lot of us dont go to beta chat
Not even for lore?
In case some content is revoked, we would be potentially biased. that is my stance at least
@lyric isle I have all Enchantment cosmetics and emotes as well as the ultimate rewards but I don't use anything from there except of those unique purple/magenta tassels that look like earrings
Glad to see that someone wants Enchantment TS, usually everyone would get annoyed with their return
For some reason... 
I feel like I’ll be this single person cheering wildly in a silent hall
Hahahhs
I mean you could just keep unbiased mind
I really really want Enchantment TSs
Obviously if they change something then that probably means it’s no longer canon
But might be an influencer in the future
might
Easier said than done
One of the main things of discussing sky lore is that you must always keep in mind, whatever you’re saying or thinking, if it’s not explicitly stated as canon, it’s absolutely a possibility
There is no argument there
Just like you can not un-spoil a spoiler
no but you can delete it and refrain from not using the spoiler tag when talking about a spoiler in the future
Explain what? Trying to stay unbiased?
Why we do not go to beta for lore and do not discuss current beta contents
I mean if someone wants to go to beta chat and talk about the lore it’s completely their personal choice is it not?
no but you can delete it and refrain from not using the spoiler tag when talking about a spoiler in the future
Can you elaborate on this?
It’s technically all beta spoilers
I think beta is spoiler even for lore, all the concise details I am not familiar
I’m saying people can change, as in you can practice being unbiased
Lemme look at beta chat, see if they mention any thing about lore
beta content stays in the beta channels, lore or not. it’s because the content is still being tested, so changes are possible. things could be different when it hits live
!spoilers
The community generally agrees that the following things are spoilers:
- Anything after the door to Eye of Eden (but not the word Eden)
- What the 8-player puzzle unlocks
- Anything in the secret level including what it is ||(office)||
- Beta content that is not live or not meant to be accessible (all beta content stays in the beta channels)
I was pinged about why we don't discuss beta stuff?
While I amm not sure why I was the one chosen I guess I'll take a crack at it...
A lot of us don't have access to beta stuff
hold on laptop power not flowing
A lot of the fun of the lore is digging in to clues, making discoveries, and coming up with wild theories about what it all could mean. Beta stuff comes out to only a select group, which means that a lot fo us don't have direct access to it. We can't really explore any hints given in beta.
Ark anchor
This means that only a select group would even get to look into half the things out there. That's not nearly as fun as gettting to explore things with people.If you explore with everyone else, people can hop over and see what you see, or kick themselves for not thinking about something they walked past 20 times
They can take a look at the same content and maybe even see something completely different
also, beta content is subject to change, and so it's unwise to invest too much time and energy into something that might get scrapped or altered
Eden is a significant part of the lore, and this channel has a spoilers tag
We’re tagged with spoilers so we can talk about Eden, yes
Phew
but my laptop power thing is overheated so... gotta close the discord for now
see ya laters
Bye Null!
Also, some people really look forward to the surprise of experiencing something firsthand, and having that spoiled makes the reveal less exciting
Ok, a few minutes in the freezer and it's now cooled down significantly
People treat beta as early access when it is not, beta is a testing ground and spreading around what goes on in beta will cause confusion and anger when it is found out that the things that happens there won’t happen in live
General beta discussion is also not a place for lore discussion to take place, just wait for the season to actually be finished and pushed live to discuss it
Sorry Null, I chose you because you told me once that you wouldn't look in the beta channels and accept information there as lore so I thought you would explain it better
so I was sitting at home space and was just listening to the sounds that where there and heard: isle bell, birds, water, and what sounded like a manta
but could also be similar to a whale
just went back and listened some more and it sounds alot closer to a manta than a whale
Hmm interesting
Could this be the regular quest giver? Next to hands on hip pose
some theorize that child is the quest giver as a kiddo, yes
ooo
I think vault is the copy of eden
And quite sure it's at the vault summit
It's there for a long time
I mean at the end of vault someone kept me wondering-
The elevator breaks and you can hear the storm from there
We had a discussion about the shrines in the ascension cutscene before, most of us thought that the one in vault is a replica of the shrines in eden, or that it's a "projection" of some sort.
Ah I see
The shrines in the ascension cutscene is also directly underneath the castle, which doesnt correlate to the map of eden. So it's either a totally different shrine or some magical space-time mumbo jumbo is at play.
Idk why but I feel that eden is actually PART of Vault
At least the end of it and the gate from vault just broke apart from the rest of the building due to darkness
Vault seems to be an elevator to eden, so i guess it's part of it. 
And judging by the ascension cutscene, eden is WAY bigger than we see.
The elevator breaks at the end though so you get back to ground level
We actually never lifted up? All is just an illusion
We thought the elevator could actually reach the top floor of vault though 
In the eden social space we can see the vault's roof.
I mean rocks and stuff could have magically broken vault apart and the ACTUAL top is what's at eden? What appears in vault is the remaining knowledge or something
And when we reach the summit we can hear a loud thump sound similar to a big object fitting through a hole
In my opinion it may just be projecting how much you gone through showing the stuff
The elevator could've simply broke after it reached the summit 
Or it could've always been broken and just all illusion fell apart after the energy from lanterns fade
In most theories, the vault is completely intact. In my VR vault theory, the interior of vault is covered in projections which make it seem endless.
Not the ground floor though 
I see
I think my theory is weird lol
Levels 1-2 doesnt seem to be dreamlike
The last level seems to be pretty dream like 
With the dreamlike nature of vault, we dont know if any of it is real or not 
my theory on vaul: we are kids messing with projection equipament and as we try to climb up things get weirder and stop making sense. but you are still climbing up.
evidences to it:
- if you wait long enough in the last level, you will hear the sound of somethin heavy fitting into a space as the elevator reaches the shrine level.
- after meditation, you "wake up" in in the last level and you are no longer on the elevator
- the cofiguration of first level and eden gate level is very different
I really feel eden's shape from outside looks like vault's summit interior
Think about this
The devs said each vault level represents a different realm, and eden is at the top
The top is also found at the top of eden
What’s ur assumption now?
Two shrines 
Still a projection for me
Hmm
Ye that’s what I meant
Vault was meant to be something to teach us skykids about the history before we die at eden
Of course it was meant to store their knowledge as well
But yk what I mean
Maybe 👀
hmmm
Your name though
What if i told you everything I said is something the devs have said before
Should I trust what you say 👀

yes
Ah then no
I don’t lie in the lore chat 
Vault's soundtracks do have history lesson-y names 
u sure
👀
Confusion 100
👀 

Seriously tho, devs have given that info
Each realm represents a different level and the elevator is something to teach us skykids about the history. Of course we haven’t rlly understood it much at all since we have no clue what was going on and we couldn’t understand anything
But that was their goal
understandable
Now with the logic that each level represents a realm and eden’s summit being the top
It only makes sense that the top of eden is the real one and the top of vault is what is representing eden


Liar
Hm?
I saw that message 👀
Lol
Ok ANYWAYS
This is the point I’m trying to make and based on everything I’ve read and experienced, the top of vault isn’t the real one
The top of eden is the real platform with the shrines
I said that cuz u guys kept spamming the moth eyes sticker

Eden
Why is Eden so pretty but so creepy
What do you think happened 👀
We need history or any type of backstory
I don’t think my theories will give a satisfying answer for you 
Why 👀
Tgc made it where u supposed to make ur own lore and theorize
Cuz there rlly isn’t a story made
Well there is, there’s the base canon and base storyline but they liked the idea of having kids have the chance to let their imaginations run wild and make their own theories on the lore
Without being right or wrong
Fair enough 👀
Yeah journey has a concrete story made
Sky, they want you to fill in the gaps with ur imagination
But still maybe some side stories would be fun
Like more memories but not of spirits
Something like the elders cutscenes but with more depth
I would’ve loved for them to create a straightforward story that we all supposed to help figure out and discuss but I understand why they chose not to do that
#wishlist-and-ideas-archived might be a good place to tell them that 
I also wanna know if krills have bones
Cause yesterday alone the poor thing broke its neck like three times to catch me
They don’t
Real life and most likely in sky
Their strange movement is still a mystery but I highly doubt they have bones
Oh you mean shrimps lol
I thought you referred to them as dragons like the game xD
Krill is a real life animal
Took me a hot second
Wait
Krill is a real life animal
@sly kestrel
Oh wait really
Tiny shrimp, whale food.
Whales eat them and they wander around the sea in hugeeeee swarms
Okay I'll look professional liars up
Look me up
@sly kestrel
oh god, krill swarms in Sky
They are also a very important source of food around the whole ocean
Typo my bad
Em*
Krill swarms 
oh god, krill swarms in Sky
@kind bobcat
No plz
I got double krilled TWICE yesterday and don't need more
more krills please i want to suffer
Jus look up krill and u will see what I’m talking about
Although I’m very confused why the game calls them dark dragons
They did a cross shape attacking me and I was so confused
Skills
Two at once like whyyyy
Well, apparently they're supposed to be dark dragons 
They used to be called krill canonically in the very old version
Original name is dark dragons
community name are krills
I guess they love the dramatic name
Can I kill a krill with candles
Maybe because it's cooler 
Crabs get super red over flame
yeah i mean do you want a scary creature with a not scary at all name 
Imagine having the scariest thing in-game be a tiny sea creature but upscaled a few thousand times.
They didn’t want any sort of violence for our characters so I doubt they’ll add a feature to kill one
I think someone made a chart of how big krills actually are.
I knowwwWWW
Real life krill are so tiny 
yeah i mean do you want a scary creature with a not scary at all name
@livid valley
Krill sounds more like kill than Mister Dark dragon the handsome
they’re around 69’8ft
i want Krills be more violent to me 
... If you look at tiny creatures, there arr plenty to be scared of
creepy crawlies 
Here's hoping we never get virus monsters
Old Krill is more scary then the present one ngl
I think krills are enough for both us and tgc 
Like spiders, they still scare but if ur their size
They are the creepiest thing ever 
Wdym old krill
Concept krill.
Pre launch beta krill was basically the same
It wasn’t even that bad tbh
There weren’t any concept arts made for krill
The one that looks more like sentient dark plants 
yeah, I heard the current krill are meaner
Hold on, i think i have one
those are dark creatures
Ooohh those are jus concepts of dark creatures
not necessarily krill
ye ik i call em old krill
they had several ideas for dark creatures, which means probably more than one dark creature
i have no fancy name for em
Death worms
I would’ve liked them to add those creatures
Would’ve made my journeys a lil more exciting
human teeth creatures
common
bad news bug
this one is amazing
Ahhh that concept
oooh yeah
I loved that one too
they look like shadow creatures
i cant find that concept EEE
would have loved that
phone go brrr
It was more like a dark spirit
that looks scarier 
That would be an interesting creature to save
Looks COOLER
i want more chonky dark creatures 
Oh yeah
Back then, their concepts of creatures were very dark and scary but we were supposed to be able to save them with our candle
yeah, the shadowy spirit concept looks amazing
it would have been nice to have a slightly more concrete idea of how we save the world of Sky
ah that sounds so good 
Dunno when they decided to scrap that idea of us saving the dark creatures but
It’s gone now 😔
Concept krill that you save by placing bowls of fire for them to strike at and feed off of for long enough for us to burn bits off of
maybe they want the feeling of having sense of danger instead of saving and stroll along with no problem at all
I wanna see the concepts, where is it?
Saving them doesn't need to be easy!
ok add 20 Krills
Saving them doesn't need to be easy!
@short owl
We might get krilled in the process
i want pure suffering
The mighty tomcepts 
https://www.tomzhao.com/sky1
if coming in contact with darkness harms lightcreatures, wouldn't light harm dark creatures?
thanks 
I would honestly love if TGC made Sky: Light Awaits (I would pay for it) based on the old tomcepts and other bits and pieces
Spider tsadi 👁️ 👄 👁️
f e a r
if coming in contact with darkness harms lightcreatures, wouldn't light harm dark creatures?
@normal berry maybe it takes away the darkness
Be prepared for tons of bugs wren 
But I did love some of the stuff there 😔
like that huge sky city
✨
past architecture seems to be obsessed with circles
Howcome u don’t like circles
@normal berry maybe it takes away the darkness
@livid valley
But light does damage dark plants and our deep calls stun the crabs, so… they’ve got a point
I hope we will see more of that technological side to the sky kingdom
I want a sky version that's single player and just heavily story based
sounds great
I don’t think they advanced much past the Medieval ages in the sense that they seemed to have magic and deities to rely on. They didn’t need to invent much more
more circles 
So, sky architecture back then :
whats that blue thing on the sky 
a c i r c l e
Sky architecture now is like: Im that Prairie constellation, whatcha gonna do about it?
ahaha
I dunno, that concept makes it look more like a sci-fi exploration game 
oh god open world sky yessssss
oh god open world sky yessssss
@kind bobcat this^^^
I kinda like the high tech mixed with ancient aesthetics
I mean they love circles
Concept eden was a big black orb.
Circles go O
Oh wait aren’t the realms supposed to represent life cycles or smth? So that would make sense with all the circles going on
yuh
Huh wat
i might be obsessed with circles too if i look at it too much
maybe
Isle is birth, Praire is childhood, Forest is teenagerdom, Valley is young adulthood, Wasteland is middle ages , Vault is elderly, and Eden is death
where is that art concept took place? prairie?
well i dont know
Also I love the concept art sm
almost like the entrance to Sanctuary
looks so cool
just the straight poles rather than circles
The bit in the center in the first pic looks kinda like either a door or a mural (or both)
Nope, it’s a carving, I went and double checked
this is interesting there was something like a robot to help us move?
i think that might've been a reference to the old cutscene with the wasteland elder? he apparently jumped in and fended off krills for you while you ran inside the temple gates
honestly that's so wholesome
interesting
So that would be armor, huh? Now I feel like analyzing it…
more of it
yeah, there were some concepts where a character or player sacrificed themself to let the others go ahead
Wasteland elder super wholesome
could've be more emotional than now
Wow this game’s story was somehow more depressing than it is now
Oh nooo poor Elder 
Also I’m tryna place the style of sword and I’m not sure if the devs intended this but swords were pretty much useless until people invented steel because they were so easy to break
hmm yea
so tgc tried to create smth opposite to flower etc, but they realized that is 'not our style' huh :3
that's really dark ngl
i like the "dark style" its more emotional/dramatic then now
Basically technology seems to be past the Steel Age but definitely before the Industrial Revolution
Or wait, unless the pipes and pollution in GW was the IR? Hm
Hmm
Congrats!
anything you took that is pretty interesting
is that guy in thepics karen?
that is king yes
trying to stop the kid from doing something
is like this
If you go with the trapped in a dark crystal theory, the king is trying to subdue you to eat you. You would need to be strong at the end in order to subdue the crystal enough to allow the prince to escape
Hmm... I don't see blue or green writing
Same
Interesting that this would be on the key, but not the actual diagram
yep
I wonder if the blue and green are relevant to something that's still a possibility
Especially blue
🔵 History HMmm interesting in the website i didnt see any blue texts
I think they scrapped all of it
Also I wonder if the lightning bolts are even from the king. While irl lightning bolts come from the ground, them coming from the sky is a common misconception. Additionally lightning is typically associated with light rather than dark. Perhaps the bolts are dangerous because they are a means of keeping the king relatively subdued, as needed for the kids to have even a small chance of success
i feel like the history/story beats are removed from certain concepts because they plan to use them and don’t want to spoil 
I also see that "elder creature" and "dark creatures" are seperate. Additionally, what's dangerous about the elder creature is their darkness, but possibly not them?
Eden season when
we get a new area in Eden where the king rains righteous fury on us like in the concepts
maybe not righteous
but you get the idea
if that happens all my theories are out the window and smashed to bits


if that happens all my theories are out the window and smashed to bits
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This opens the door up to them being a dangerous ally - one whom can kill us and is likely to do so accidentally, but is actively focused on trying to keep the king contained at a great personal cost. Like Tsadi holding back the krill
Are most theroies discussed here present in the pins
there’s a theory doc, but it’s relatively abandoned from what i know
most people don’t use it
the answer to your question is no, Blu
The non canon doc ryt
My theories are on the spot and inconsistent
I read it
Except for megan having mind control. That's stable.
Also Megan having a highly questionable moral standing
Also I really hope the old version of the game would have had lots of checkpoints. Eight lightning bolts is pretty harsh
blue
How come you can see the beam now but not after
My internet is slower than my candle running
Lmao
bc after you go inside the beam? thats my theory at least
Maybe you pass by the beam while sliding around on the sand, and just kinda follow the animals?
My question still is why does the red eden crystal flash white when you are out of wl?
does it?
oh?
Either glitch or it’s like “ooh yay I killed a Skykid :D”
any screenshots
It's too fast for a screenshot and I don't have video set up
(Also just died this morning so... Don't wanna die again)
But it seems to happen as your character stops struggling and kinda straightens up?
hmm
It is just one quick flash I think
ngl, I may be a lil jealous of people who can just record their screens on mobile
ngl, I may be a lil jealous of people who can just record their screens on mobile
same bro same
A theory of mine is that it's because Megan is the one who broke it in the first place so... Like... It does what Megan wants
Sci-fi sky
@livid valley Where-
/sky was suppose to be sci fi before they scrap it
@livid valley Where-
@weary galleon Concept art
here are some designs of supposedly in the modern world
@livid valley agdjdi- Dang would have been real dope if it was a sort of oob
Aye
Sky x Interstellar crossover 
Yes
Would deffinately have needed to not be a phone game
imagine TGC releasing another Sky but its open world and much cooler (pc or console needed)
I don't know if "better" is the right word.
ngl yeah
mhm
Kinda wanna play the concept, but if I had come across the concept game I likely never would have played
ah 
Too horror for my tastes. I picked up this game because cute and pretty
And also the kids holding hands
The dark stuff only got to sink in after I was hooked
Give me horrifying dark world in a cute, kid friendly package

this describes mlp, coroline, and a lot of other media as well
Lmao
Wait what
any screenshots available
I never noticed shields there
Are there?
same
screenshots will be gladly appreciated
/hold up 2 séc
ok
I think that's a platform
those aren’t shields
those are platforms for the 2nd level, they raise up in the cutscene
ahahhha i was confused
Wait so is the stuff we go through in the vault just a simulation
possibly
/i think it's a dream
Though that does raise the question of did those platforms fall, and if so, why?
/and the spirit there are just dreams within the dream
Though that does raise the question of did those platforms fall, and if so, why?
/maybe they tried to put sth heavy on it
hmm the platforms mustve have fell but theres no evidence on how it fall
Maybe whatever wrecked the Archive also toppled the platforms
Maybe they ran out of power?
They don’t seem to use power, though, they just rely on ~magic~
it dosent seem to need power
/it was buried so we cant just see whether if it broke or not
aahahahahaqh




