Fly boat is a vehicle.. now that is 1st class transportation as it just ignores almost every obstacle
#lore-discussion-spoilers
mild lark
kind moat
Sanctuary has a boat too
mild lark
We just can't see alot of boat in valley
kind moat
There's a boat in valley
mild lark
Yes
gilded fossil
/there's one inside the rink but that's it really
mild lark
But not alot
cyan bobcat
In Valley I guess it has anti gravity, right? like in Citadel so People there Is like BRR wd their capes everyday
kind moat
I think there's not much boat in valley cause it's a modern civilization
mild lark
I don't think spirit can fly
gilded fossil
/the wealthy was gate keeping people from going into citadel
kind moat
/
the wealthy was gate keeping people from going into citadel
@gilded fossil i think this is true
Notice the land race almost looks like a slum
cyan bobcat
But some spirits do fly, right? the ones selling capes hahaa
wind arch
I always thought the citadel could be a VIP club
gilded fossil
/maybe only the rich can see the flying race?
cyan bobcat
VIP club kskssksks
gilded fossil
/the working class only get the sliding race
mild lark
Flying race is a highway for boats
topaz girder
i wonder if prairie village area used to be covered in cloufs
wind arch
Boat race? ( But lack of boats)
kind moat
Valley is definitely has different classes
mild lark
Flying race is used by boats but turned into a race route
gilded fossil
Flying race is a highway for boats
@mild lark /make sense, have to bring the very big items to there somehow
cyan bobcat
Boat boat
wind arch
Bluprint I love ur pfp (Isle grampa best grampa)
@hushed steeple thank youYes I agree
cyan bobcat
wobbly grandpa
gilded fossil
/but we do see boats in gw
mild lark
They used big ship as alternative
wind arch
wobbly grandpa
@cyan bobcat he looks especially bent in the vault cutscene
Maybe they flew manta
mild lark
As I said .. it was turned into a race route
brave herald
Manta races with people riding on them
mild lark
I mean irl we can see alot of formula 1 cars racing in a highway
I see that happening in my country
wind arch
I think in terms of a game design.perspective the first few realms have to not need as much flight but as it progresses the game encoureges it ( in the form of the orrery)
mild lark
Yeah it happened alot here
kind moat
Hmm notice that almost all door from isle to forest (until temple) need to open by candle. Then it gets automated after you meet forest mama. I think it symbolises the beginning of industrial revolution, they also used the trees in the forest. Then we see wasteland, going back to boats, manually opening doors. It's basically the fall
mild lark
@hushed steeple no the highway was turned into a race track is what I'm saying
cyan bobcat
Yeah that is why Valley was the peak of civilization too
lethal stump
but the power diamonds used to open those doors were made in the industrial revolution
wind arch
valley confuses me
mild lark
Valley really like to make my theory invalid
kind moat
Hmm elders have the diamond too in their foreheads Buy why the valley twins doesn't have it
brave herald
I wonder the villages be open in the mere future in valley
mild lark
We actually don't know much about the game lol...
cyan bobcat
TGC lessgetit
gilded fossil
/im more worry about the poop tho
wind arch
Omg the poop boils my blood
kind moat
Guys question. Do forest only have this symbol on the doors?
cyan bobcat
Wha
mild lark
Plot twist : there's no poop
thin dirge
:O
gilded fossil
/if we gonna go ask tgc the only valid question is poop
wind arch
What if the connecting link we need.... Is the dropping
mild lark
Well I did ask ash about the halo when you see shiny boi
cyan bobcat
@kind moat I guess yeah, tho Vault has diamond powered gates too..
kind moat
kind moat
It looks like the symbol when you click yourself when you're lost
brave herald
Guys question. Do forest only have this symbol on the doors?
@kind moat well they say it's the symbol for prince
low barn
Um excuse me. I read the theory about the race in valley which represents different classes i civilization. Is it possible that the elders are not twins but represent each class since they argue a lot?
gilded fossil
/well, valley has a two player door too but it's more like a bunker
mild lark
Power diamond is the universal way of interacting in this game
cyan bobcat
It is
wind arch
Um excuse me. I read the theory about the race in valley which represtes different classes i civilization. Is it possible that the elders are not twins but represent each class since they argue a lot?
@low barn yeah which ones which tho
low barn
Like...having a grudge on each other
mild lark
Want to fix bridges yes.. diamond..
Open door? Yes diamond
gilded fossil
Um excuse me. I read the theory about the race in valley which represents different classes i civilization. Is it possible that the elders are not twins but represent each class since they argue a lot?
@low barn /well, they're confirmed twins by the devs
cyan bobcat
But what about their hands one left hand and one right hand - I'm guessing they're really brothers
gilded fossil
Want to fix bridges yes.. diamond..
Open door? Yes diamond
@mild lark /want to suffer while doing cr yes diamond
mild lark
Hotel? Yes Trivago
thin dirge
Shining bright like a diamond
Shining bright like a diamond
Shining bright like a diamond
Shining bright like a diamond in the sky~
brave herald
I thought the twins were a full one person and got separated later that's why they only have one eye each
wind arch
Same but people say.they r twins?
cyan bobcat
yeah, Twin elders they say
gilded fossil
I thought the twins were a full one person and got separated later that's why they only have one eye each
@brave herald /yes one of the common theories here, they get debunk and unbunkeds a lot
kind moat
I wonder what's the reason they created twins as the valley elder? Because there are two race?
brave herald
New ideas ?
mild lark
The twin is by far the smallest elders yet
wind arch
Maybe it doesn't have to be rich and poor? Maybe it could be ideological differences or different religions
gilded fossil
/the 5 man band all over again
cyan bobcat
Different personalities only i think
mild lark
Woooooosh I don't think politics matter in the game
kind moat
Hmm or being playful characteristics
thin dirge
My headcanon is that the Valley Twins were the youngest of the Elders
cyan bobcat
Yeah Only characterr
thin dirge
Second youngest if including the King
gilded fossil
Different religious group's tend to form their own communities
@wind arch /well in tomcepts the art depicts flying housse with caption "wealthy" and the houuses on ground "working class"
abstract crypt
Valley has economic differences when it comes to the location of their houses and concept arts suggest there's a government present in there
mild lark
Wait why king is youngest
kind moat
But I really think that citadel is meant for the rich. They even have the midas bridge haha
thin dirge
Ehhh... It's just my headcanon that the King is the youngest, lol
cyan bobcat
Hahahaha
abstract crypt
Afaik houses on the lower areas are the lower class while the houses built nearer the summit are the higher class
mild lark
King is wide thats all is important
cyan bobcat
there are two kings right
kind moat
But tgc really made a good job for making valley feels like a downtown part of sky
thin dirge
Valley twins are second youngest, Forest is third youngest-
wind arch
But I really think that citadel is meant for the rich. They even have the midas bridge haha
@kind moat yep I'm probably wrong I just thought that bcos the twims don't really represent rich and poor for me
thin dirge
The two oldest are Isle and Vault
mild lark
We don't know the age of the elders.. or even if they have age
kind moat
Forest mom. Basically a tsundere
wind arch
Forest mama
cyan bobcat
Sassy mama
mild lark
Grandpa isle is my favourite
thin dirge
True, but my brain cant process that for some reason
gilded fossil
Forest mom. Basically a tsundere
@kind moat /she has dem legggs tho
thin dirge
Vault and Isle are best
wind arch
Yes
mild lark
But I like king more.. look at my pfp
gilded fossil
/lore discussion has turn into elder fangirling
cyan bobcat
Vault is the best for me too, but why did she approve of everything.. this led to the fall
thin dirge
wind arch
I think isle is the best he is least evil
kind moat
I still can't get it out of my head that isle grandpa concept was a vulture
abstract crypt
King and GW elder are my idols
livid valley
this is funny
mild lark
By Goop
abstract crypt
Forest elder was a monkey squatting on a pole with a hat similar to that lightseekers hat with lights
low barn
King?
thin dirge
I gave the Elders ages cause my brain cant process or understand how they don't have ages
kind moat
Back to lore guys haha
thin dirge
Ranking Oldest to Youngest, Isle, Vault, GW, Prarie, Forest, Twins and the King
mild lark
Notice how alot of trees in broken midway? I think that is Shockwave blast
abstract crypt
How old is Megan?
lethal stump
i imagine thé king as a 14 year old in a mech suit
Megabird..................megabird..........i see her as the age of the universe
kind moat
Hmmm i want to know more about king
cyan bobcat
Also there is a lumberjack that is why they chop down trees,
mild lark
13 billion years
verbal iron
Notice how alot of trees in broken midway? I think that is Shockwave blast
@mild lark whats shockwave blast?
abstract crypt
Agree Bricky
thin dirge
i imagine thé king as a 14 year old in a mech suit
@lethal stump Same. Well, I imagined the King being more like a 6 year old in a mech suit
gilded fossil
Hmmm i want to know more about king
@kind moat /reika is the king
kind moat
Are there remnants of him? Or is it just in eden
lethal stump
Of the king ? no clue
tender dune
gilded fossil
@lethal stump Same. Well, I imagined the King being more like a 6 year old in a mech suit
@thin dirge /guys imagine king to megan: it's my turn on the mech suit
abstract crypt
King has plenty of statues all over the place in Sky
mild lark
@verbal iron there a theory that eden exploded and destroyed everything
kind moat
King has plenty of statues all over the place in Sky
@abstract crypt wait really?
cyan bobcat
There is like the corrupt king and the good king right? i read that somewhere hahaha
thin dirge
Yeah
verbal iron
@abstract crypt wait really?
@kind moat ive seen a lot in gw
lethal stump
They’re the same person, Pudding
mild lark
Corrupted king is HUUUGGEE
lethal stump
the king became corrupt
gilded fossil
Corrupted king is HUUUGGEE
@mild lark /you forgot wide
cyan bobcat
But there was another after the corrupted king?
abstract crypt
GW temple has an enormous King statue above it, requires oob to see up close
kind moat
@kind moat ive seen a lot in gw
@verbal iron oh yeah. Even in the concept art. They mentioned broken statues of king in wasteland
wind arch
King has more statues on the later realms right
mild lark
lethal stump
There’s king propaganda since isle all the way to eden
cyan bobcat
Hmm.. ic ic
verbal iron
GW temple has an enormous King statues above it, requires oob to see up close
@abstract crypt can you explain how to get to the oob ?
lethal stump
Which, I might add, gets « older » the closer you get to eden
gilded fossil
/i am immune to propaganda
wind arch
Omg that art slaps I whosh we had it
abstract crypt
I think lore peeps don't like oob topic here...
marsh quiver
Older??
kind bobcat
Well, oob is good for getting references of murals, how the elders look, and stuff you see but easier to access with oobing. Other than that, oobs have no relation to lore.
thin dirge
Every child grows up eventually. Even for a 6 year old in a mech suit-
verbal iron
alright, its okay 
mild lark
Sad that skykid can't grow
verbal iron
do you think all skids are the same age?
kind bobcat
Gundam king 
thin dirge
I think they are?
lethal stump
in prairie the king is depicted smaller, younger
forest, he seems older but not adult yet. this is his teen years
gw we see massive statues of him, in his midlife
vault is only a memory of him
and eden...we hug his soul
abstract crypt
You can reach the giant King statue above the GW temple by flying upwards in front of it or using the piggy rocket technique, chat table is highly recommended to have a platform to recharge energy. It's one of the largest King statue I've known
kind moat
It's ironic that it's called eden while it's actually a big corruption, i thought it was called eden because of what happened after you die, then it was apparently called orbit.
mild lark
Gundam what?
kind bobcat
Big mech
marsh quiver
Interesting
abstract crypt
Note that the area that you can fly near the King statue is constricted as it's surrounded by windwalls
lethal stump
mech king mech king mech king
kind bobcat
Eden was likely to be a holy place before it got defiled and corrupted.
gilded fossil
in prairie the king is depicted smaller, younger
forest, he seems older but not adult yet. this is his teen years
gw we see massive statues of him, in his midlife
vault is only a memory of him
and eden...we hug his soul
@lethal stump /may i have a pic of king in prarie>
kind moat
You can reach the giant King statue above the GW temple by flying upwards in front of it or using the piggy rocket technique, chat table is highly recommended to have a platform to recharge energy. It's one of the largest King statue I've known
@abstract crypt i wanna try this
wind arch
in prairie the king is depicted smaller, younger
forest, he seems older but not adult yet. this is his teen years
gw we see massive statues of him, in his midlife
vault is only a memory of him
and eden...we hug his soul
@lethal stump any pictures available?
verbal iron
You can reach the giant King statue above the GW temple by flying upwards in front of it or using the piggy rocket technique, chat table is highly recommended to have a platform to recharge energy. It's one of the largest King statue I've known
@abstract crypt dang it, i dont have any of those. thanks for explaining! 👍
lethal stump
no need to ping, I’m here
cyan bobcat
Maybe because it was eden cause the experiment was suppose to work
lethal stump
ill grab what im talking about
sly kestrel
Lore chat be like 90% quoting
10% talking
wind arch
Sorry ( I'm new to discord)
gilded fossil
no need to ping, I’m here
/oops sorry
marsh quiver
The bells also have megabird !
kind bobcat
Lore chat be like 90% quoting
10% talking
@sly kestrel You've been here for a while, you should know already
kind bobcat
Exactly
sly kestrel
So ofc I would know 
lethal stump
here’s what i’m referring to in prairie and in forest
kind moat
Ohh
gilded fossil
/ooooooooh
livid valley
diamonds 💠
cyan bobcat
Thank u everyone, i shall fly now. 
wind arch
Oh I never took it to be prince makes sense
abstract crypt
King is everywhere
mild lark
Yes
kind bobcat
Are the diamonds supposed to be references to the king or is the king mask a reference to the diamonds 👁️ 👄 👁️
mild lark
thin dirge
That's a good question
gilded fossil
/is that the age old chicken or the egg question
livid valley
must be a common symbol for the kingdom
kind moat
Guys do u know what this symbol is?
main jay
I’m confused about who the king is can someone explain him to me
gilded fossil
/megan\
lethal stump
manta/light creature
mild lark
The question is like
Which come first?
The egg or the chicken
kind bobcat
It's a bird/light creature.
kind moat
Okay thanks
lethal stump
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main jay
Thanks
gilded fossil
/eeey lor moff
marsh quiver
Ooo the king being different sizes is a cool observation!!
mild lark
Yay lore moff
abstract crypt
Diamonds were referred as "Battery" on CAFA Game Art 2018
mild lark
luckily the poop conversation has ended.. that probably will confused alot of moth
gilded fossil
/well size is a thing but did he became physically bigger or did he got a bigger gundam
kind moat
Diamonds are mined? Or made?
mild lark
Made
abstract crypt
Made from factories
kind moat
Hmmm
livid valley
gilded fossil
/light is mined
kind bobcat
We dont know
lethal stump
I feel like the getting bigger is simply him maturing/growing into role of king
elders can’t age, i don’t think he physically aged
no wonder he was a jerk, he was permanently 14 years old
livid valley
no wonder he was a jerk, he was permanently 14 years old
@lethal stumpthats deep
kind moat
Haha so king is a bad king
gilded fossil
no wonder he was a jerk, he was permanently 14 years old
/teenss imirite
mild lark
I'm 14 years old and that's deep
verbal iron
I'm 14 years old and that's deep
@mild lark same
thin dirge
no wonder he was a jerk, he was permanently 14 years old
Ahem, you mean 6 years old-
mild lark
Wait don't actually think I'm 14 tho
livid valley
your 14 forever
verbal iron
anyways back to lore
thin dirge
Prince was Sky kid size, and I'm pretty sure Sky kids are really young
livid valley
everyone is 14 forever 
lethal stump
skykids are average size for a 2–6 year old depending on height
thin dirge
So Prince/King is probably the same age as our Sky kid
lethal stump
yes, tallest height is a 6 year old
mild lark
Skykid is like half of average human height
lethal stump
so technically the prince is around 3 or 4
verbal iron
wait how do we know this?
Skykid is like half of average human height
@mild lark
livid valley
haha prince short
marsh quiver
I think the king growing “bigger” would be more about his power/influence growing bigger
wind arch
what abt the tiny potion and the huge potions do they count
gilded fossil
wait how do we know this?
@verbal iron/went to office
mild lark
Bricky makes the measurement
lethal stump
verbal iron
There's a document that measured the height of skykids and elders
@hushed steeple ohoho i see
thin dirge
Plusss, if my theory is right about the Sky kid actually being the Prince's original body but revived by Megan....
That would mean King is 6 years old
livid valley
Damn sky kids are really short
thin dirge
6. Years. Old.
lethal stump
who let a toddler become king
thin dirge
Ask the Elders
marsh quiver
Who’s this sassy lost child
shell sluice
✨we are all clay golems brought back to life by light and that’s why we crumble like clay without it ✨
gilded fossil
who let a toddler become king
/terrible parenting
lethal stump
this is why the elders were put in timeout
livid valley
Prince is not sassy 
verbal iron
THEYRE LITERAL BABIES 
thin dirge
The Elders were not very good at parenting, it seems.
mild lark
Who let toddler become king? Idk maybe megabird?
wind arch
Yep, and now who saves the world from destruction? 6 year olds
livid valley
Megan wants to see the world burn for awhile
thin dirge
I mean, I can already see that just from their cutscenes
lethal stump
teth is mean mom
verbal iron
what a world this is
Yep, and now who saves the world from destruction? 6 year olds
@wind arch smh
abstract crypt
Where do SkyKid's consciousness come from? Is it from a unique individual or collective consciousness of Megan to accomplish the goal of bringing the stars back?
mild lark
Imagine you're a huge person and then people call you young
thin dirge
XD
gilded fossil
Where do SkyKid's consciousness come from? Is it from a unique individual or collective consciousness of Megan to accomplish the goal of bringing the stars back?
@abstract crypt /bee hive
thin dirge
I have the theory that the Prince actually split in half when they fell. We're the body
wind arch
Yes, but there are quite a few other bodies?
livid valley
aye its my time to destroy the world
wind arch
So maybe he split into many?
gilded fossil
/imagine the skids are siblings : mom said it's my turn to see the soul
mild lark
Plot twist : whole eden is king
thin dirge
Well, there's the theory that in terms of story, we're the only sky kid
livid valley
ngl tho just putting a symbol on your sky kid dosent meant is related
thin dirge
Uhhhh, its not just putting a symbol on the sky kid...
wind arch
livid valley
yes i understand
mild lark
That is what we have.. what we can do is speculate and nothing else because there so little canon
wind arch
Which says the prince takes u from the kings body
thin dirge
My theory is that some event caused the stars to fall and the Prince/King lost all their light and their body and soul was seperated. The soul became the "King" we see in the Sky Kingdom and was given a new body since the original was far away. (idk why they made it so... Big tho)
The King "died" and the soul was left in limbo. This is the Child of Light we meet when we die in Eden.
The Megabird brought the other half, the original body of the Prince, to life to, send the stars home and somehow meet its other half again.
The Winged Lights are the light of the King which manifests as an imprint of the King's soul and memories.
livid valley
hmmm
wind arch
It has some evidence supporting it
mild lark
So youre saying we say bad stuff about king and we ended up hugging him at eden?
thin dirge
Yeh
livid valley
woah bad guy! Come lets hug
mild lark
Poor king
thin dirge
The King is actually nothing but a poor traumitized child
wind arch
It has some evidence supporting it
@wind arch the art says that the imprints of children of light are light memories that we collect and return to the prince when we hug him
thin dirge
Cause SOMEONE thought it was a good idea to make a child a King of an entire CIVILISATION
livid valley
lmao
wind arch
I swear that happend in rl 😂
mild lark
Blame megabird
gilded fossil
Cause SOMEONE thought it was a good idea to make a child a King if an entire CIVILISATION
@thin dirge /the age old trope of letting a child cleaning up messes made by god
modest finch
Or the mess by the older generation
livid valley
boomer
thin dirge
I mean, we do see the Child of Light, crouched down and stuff
I wonder why
Probably traumatized from the events of Eden
livid valley
What if the King is just smol but is actually older?
@hushed steeple ah yes like every anime ever
saw that
gilded fossil
/why is gundam deleted ?
livid valley
forever mystery
gilded fossil
/sorry mods i didnt mean to 
elder geode
does anyone have any ideas why maskless kids have their eyes closed??
tender dune
Even behind the mask their eyes are always closed
livid valley
Asian eyes can relate
elder geode
Why do they need masks
why do they wear masks in the first place
tender dune
Not sure tbh
low needle
They’re... always sleeping? What if they don’t have much energy and their masks give them just enough power to move and do stuff
livid valley
masks are cool
tender dune
Maybe the mask is to be more "human/ancestor?"
low needle
Maybe the mask is to be more "human?"
@tender dune what are we then
tender dune
not hooman
elder geode
wax
tender dune
livid valley
Anonymous group
tender dune
Claypots
elder geode
moving wax
hushed steeple
Dead babies I guess
livid valley
8wh*
low needle
Damn
tender dune
The sound that comes from us sounds like clay (when u hit urself on stuff), thats why my guess is we're clay pots
thin dirge
Elders are kinda made of stone too, at least based off of the Isle Elder
tender dune
Isn't that his mask? (I forgot the cutscene tbh its been a while)
thin dirge
It's his face too
tender dune
Why do they need masks
why do they wear masks in the first place
This is still a good question to theorize about
elder geode
ohh
tender dune
Rewatched the cutscene dunno why it always looks like a mask to me
Like he's faceless like us
thin dirge
Yeah. The Vault Elder also has a chip at her face, so her face also looks like a mask
tender dune
Because even our skids eyes react with masks on (when u emote stuff) - i dont have faceless yet so i dunno if they show reactions
thin dirge
Soooo.... The only ones who seems to have bodies made of stone is us and the Elders...
King=Us Theory INTENSIFIES
elder geode
Because even our skids eyes react with masks on (when u emote stuff) - i dont have faceless yet so i dunno if they show reactions
@tender dune they dont :(( their eyes keep closed
tender dune
Oh ok. Thanks
thorn portal
livid valley
Lol if it saying Bout the mask eyes suddenly becomes blac that may be th result of clipping
tender dune
Hm?
livid valley
thin dirge
This feels like something that would support the theory of us being the revived body of the Prince
Our eyes are always closed cause our soul is seperated from us
livid valley
just saying if ur talking about that
tender dune
I know chibi mask is broken/clipping when it does the french pose but we're talking about something else
livid valley
French 👌
tender dune
👌
Sadly i dont have a pic but oh well
Btw i dunno if the game is bugged or not but in vault at cosmic elder manta lvl. I keep seeing a silhouette of another manta (its outside the wall)
U can see it when u honk
lethal stump
that bug has been around a while i think
tender dune
hushed steeple
It's a bug
analog cypress
sage breach
At least they're discoveries 👀 keep up you doing well
sage breach
Here we need to tag spoilers?
lethal stump
nope !
tender dune
No
pastel brookBOT
Hello? Is it me you're looking for? I can see it in your eyes
lethal stump
tender dune
now the song is stuck in my head, thanks bean
nocturne wedge
sage breach
Is there a specific day to go to space in office?
lethal stump
#questions-and-help is where you should ask that
tender dune
Yep but its not lore related hahah
sage breach
Thank you! Gonna ask there
elder geode
You have to spoiler tag on #questions-and-help though
tender dune
Just spoiler office
short owl
And space
fossil oxide
how exactly do you change hair style and length immediatly in sky? i mean you dont really think about it, but you sure cant chainge your hair like that in real life. so. is it a wig? is my hair magic?
like when u go in the closet you can change your hair immediately
u can go from a millitary haircut to dreadlocks the moment u tap it....
wind arch
It's theorized to be made of light/ the imagination of skykids
wind arch
That's why your cape and hair don't have shadows
thin dirge
Yeah, thats why we can copy it easily from Ancestors
thin dirge
Also, when we lose all our light, we lose our hair, mask and cape. They're probably made of light
wind arch
Exactly
fossil oxide
and whats with the 3rd eye?
thin dirge
It seems to be significant cause murals of the Isle Elder for the Isle Portal seems to have the same thing
lone hull
Vault of knowledge
thin dirge
Also, the Vault Elder has it tho in Vault
fossil oxide
maybe im the s kid`s soul!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thin dirge
Yeah.
fossil oxide
i thoughtwe were talking about that glowing thing on my forehead......
is that a miniature diamond too?
wind arch
The kids soul is supposed to be the candle I think
tender dune
To me the 3rd eye/forehead dot is like a trademark from isle elder (my own theory since i believe he has a part in our creation)
thin dirge
wind arch
Woah
thin dirge
Seems... Oddly fitting
Originally tho in the concept art of the story, the circle is the shape of significance, not a diamond
fossil oxide
The kids soul is supposed to be the candle I think
@wind arch then whose soul am i taking when i light candles and take the burning orbs?
wind arch
That makes the diamond blook like it's something for good? When many theories say diamonds caused the downfall
fossil oxide
mybe its like the force depends on the user
thin dirge
Yeah, its related to that, but I'm looking at what they symbolize rather than what they did
tender dune
Circle makes sense since its whole ○
wind arch
@wind arch then whose soul am i taking when i light candles and take the burning orbs?
@fossil oxide I thought that was wax?
livid valley
o
fossil oxide
candles are made of wax... no?
tender dune
Candle flame?
wind arch
Yeah and those orbs are wax right?
thorn portal
Sky kid is not human nor born in sky world realm, they are star born, was originally born in different realms or dimensions, they were old souls that witness the great war in heaven, and choose the wrong sides that explain why skykid needs to reborn repeatedly to cleanse their soul.
thin dirge
We just use our flame to light things up?
wind arch
Yeah
tender dune
They seem more like 🔥 orbs
wind arch
Fire
thin dirge
wind arch
But how would you get candles
tender dune
xD
thin dirge
Ahh, yes
fossil oxide
😫
lethal stump
please keep to lore, friends
wind arch
What's the other type
tender dune
Tbh i dunno why when we collect those light orbs it turns a whole candle (but it says even in season task that it's called "forge a candle")
wind arch
Yeah
fossil oxide
the paper bird and the bird that really looks like a bird...
tender dune
Pyre means why are there 3rd birds and 2d birds
fossil oxide
in ship wreck
tender dune
The ones chilling at the entrance of praire or on forgotten ark
fossil oxide
r they 2 different species
tender dune
I dont think they're different species 
wind arch
Maybe 2d are like imprints of 3d
livid valley
have you seen the sanc creatures which are flying around the bells tho
wind arch
Like how we have skykids and imprints of skykids
thorn portal
During the process of reincarnation to cleanse skykid soul, some part or aspect of the souls rebirth, acquiring physical body, purpose and all memories was erased, thats why skykid need to repeatedly relieve spirit memories to remind them their purpose, they acquiring human emo and learning from it how to be human, they wear mask coz as fallen angels they are afraid of light itself but thats what they make the sacrifice, eyes is close its symbolized tapping our inner spirit our innerself and believing, refraining to any influences of physical world, or skykid eyes closed coz really cant handle the light since wearing mask they can open their eyes
fossil oxide
they defenitely arent the exact same specie
wind arch
have you seen the sanc creatures which are flying around the bells tho
@livid valley I think they r baby mantas
fossil oxide
maybe sanctuary is the manta nesting grounds...
thorn portal
Why sky kid dies a soul fragment is still lurking around like an orb, coz part of skykid true soul trapped in limbo, all memories and understanding was with that soul and we embrace it symobolizing unity with true soul self and surrendering from it
fossil oxide
plus i cant see the words in the pic...
tender dune
Gtg bbyee
wind arch
Butterfly, Monowing, Quadwing, Hexwing, elder
fossil oxide
r they real?
wind arch
Yes they can be found in game
fossil oxide
ive only seen the hex wing as a cosmic manta
and where`s the elder?!
i neeeeeeeeed to know...
tender dune
came between stuff but elder is cosmic elder and can be seen in vault floor
She has 2 elder babies
thorn portal
7 elders symbolized the seven spirits god sent to all earth derived from christian bible book of revelation
mellow sable
so now we have every manta species in current live except elder 
lethal stump
possibly
7 shows up in a lot of mythology, not just christian
livid valley
mellow sable
@sly kestrel that's beta spoilers 
please delete it
livid valley
Almighty Tuna
mellow sable
chonky boyyy
livid valley
Big Chonk
mellow sable
fatty tuna
livid valley
;O; swallow everything
gilded fossil
/7 is actually a good number
thin dirge
Lucky number
gilded fossil
/although if counting twins as two different people
pastel brookBOT
who needs mods, skybot to the rescue!
gilded fossil
/anyways, was wondering if the vault had the smell of a pickle
wind arch
"Golden Valley is like a downtown of the Sky kingdom. People built a huge city on top of this mountain, using boats
to move between places." ( For an earlier convo about valley/ orrery
So they did use boats
This is from teh seven days of sky
thin dirge
Wait, a pickle? Why would the Vault smell like a pickle?
gilded fossil
/where are the boats then
Wait, a pickle? Why would the Vault smell like a pickle?
/perserving methods
sage breach
Man
thin dirge
Preserving? The Vault isn't a fridge tho-
gilded fossil
/that game mech feel free to theorize tho
Preserving? The Vault isn't a fridge tho-
/yo crackpot theoryvault smells like a fridge
wind arch
Depends on whose fridge
gilded fossil
"Golden Valley is like a downtown of the Sky kingdom. People built a huge city on top of this mountain, using boats
to move between places." ( For an earlier convo about valley/ orrery
/maybe, just maybe everyone abandon the Valley the moment they know war was gonna break out
thin dirge
Must smell lovely like a fridge full of expired food
sage breach
Woosh sorry!!
gilded fossil
/yup livve only !
sage breach
Deleted!!
crimson grove
You can talk about it in #beta-discussion for now ^^
gilded fossil
Must smell lovely like a fridge full of expired food
@thin dirge/that where the pickle part comes in
nimble siren
speaking of interesting symbols, what do y'all think about the blessings from spirits resembling the king's head? i want to know what it meansssssssss
sage breach
Vault seem to smell like dust churches
nimble siren
i literally just noticed today, so dont mind me if this subject has been talked about lots already haha
sage breach
Allergies have smell?
wind arch
A lot of things seem to resemble king
thin dirge
Yeah
lethal stump
king propaganda
thin dirge
sage breach
Now that you mentioned, the blessings look like a 3d version of the guidance simbol too
gilded fossil
/i am immune to propaganda
/not allergies tho
nimble siren
hmmmm yeah
gilded fossil
nimble siren
is the king guiding us in subtle ways?!
wind arch
The star shape could also represent the shine around imprints nof children of light and eden
gilded fossil
/maybe that's like "go here to king"
nimble siren
the answer is always the king is some way or another hahaha
wind arch
He is everywhere
sage breach
Maybe is a life cicle created by the great calamity, in complete mind broken King cast like a curse, people is fated to born and die
We are never a new kid when we reborn, always the same one, and we do all over and over again, dying the same tragic painfull death in Eden
gilded fossil
Maybe is a life cicle created by the great calamity, in complete mind broken King cast like a curse, people is fated to born and die
/sounds like botw
/in a way
sage breach
Yeah is Zelda themed theory
nimble siren
i LOVE botw, and i think its really interesting how loz and sky both have heroes locked in eternal battle with darkness, getting reborn multiple times along the way
wind arch
The colours related to the trifoce are present in the game in three realms; valley:red , gw: green, vault:blue
But valley doesn't relate to power
nimble siren
it kinda does tho, valley was peak of society and therefore most powerful
wind arch
Other two match well
gilded fossil
/sky cotl is loz confirmed
/i just love crackpot theories, they make no sense but they're fun as eden
nimble siren
i just love how botw and sky seem to have the same open world feel, and mysterious lore
wind arch
Oh but you could say eden is red? And that represents power ryt
gilded fossil
/eden is that one edgy sonic oc
wind arch
Yeah they also have ancient structures and ruins and puzzles
gilded fossil
/black and red
wind arch
And spirits ( shika monks?) Or maybe even champions
sage breach
Megabird is like the Golden Goddess, King was Demise the primising dark king
wind arch
wheres Zelda be at tho
sage breach
Zeldas gone, let it be
wind arch
Prince(ss)?
sage breach
Hylia is meant to be the light, thats the power sources of Zelda right? Were all gaterin light the entire game
Theres creatures beeing pure light made
gilded fossil
/i think they're king and or vault scholars statues
wind arch
Not the tall ones the ones you light to keep.the fire going and to recharge
gilded fossil
/bird statues?
gilded fossil
/ah
/i call em bird statues tho haha
/anyways
/notice how on newer areas like sanc and ark
wind arch
That could be a representation of megan
sage breach
A scale?
gilded fossil
/scales
/fish scales
/I am not playing the game, but you guys can go see!
/(edit so it is less confusing)
sage breach
I cannot go to sanc to see because i plan to go on Office by the home portal
I dont have the cape lol
fossil oxide
guys guys guys i think i found the place the pic was set in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gilded fossil
/okay i need catching up what is it\
hushed steeple
fossil oxide
there actually water to this level there
right up to the ankles!!!!!!
check it outtttttttttttt
silver forge
Hey please no beta content in the main channels. Beta content is subject to change so sharing it will cause confusion.
placid fossil
Ok
silver forge
Also any previews of next season’s content can only be hacked and sharing that info is rude and against the rules.
silver forge
Also some people like to not be spoiled about new stuff
fossil oxide
dude this is the lore page
we got slowmoded because we were trying to figure out where the promo pic took place
north fossil
Yeah, this is a spoiler friendly zone
The teaser image came out earlier this week, it blew up big time
fossil oxide
and i think i just cracked the puzzle
polar whale
This is a spoiler friendly zone, but beta content stays in beta channels
fossil oxide
unless im proved wrong and i regret saying all this...
silver forge
Beta spoilers* need to clarify 
fossil oxide
wait the pic from news was for beta?????????
silver forge
The pic in news is a teaser for future content
north fossil
Nope, it was announced publicly
So not beta
silver forge
Beta is for testing that content before it hits live
Stuff in news is ok to talk in main channels anywhere
north fossil
The image isn’t beta content, but anything about the season like the pendant would be beta
fossil oxide
oh thank... whoever u believein
why is xynth in orange
do i need nitro to do that?
silver forge
Nitro boosters are light pink!
north fossil
Community shepherd
silver forge
I’m orange because im a shepherd here.
modest finch
They are a community shepherd
fossil oxide
and they do..........
silver forge
It’s basically a position for those who are friendly and dedicated to guiding the server. More info in #590700594662998016
fossil oxide
oh love your work xynth
soooooooooooo can anyone plz log into sky and confirm or disprove my theory?
maybe its a new questgiver quest thats part of sanctuary!!!!!!
ember sun
It does look very similar but i don’t see any water in the pic tho 👀👀
ember sun
Spirits feet are always like that
fossil oxide
and their feet are under water!!!!!!!
ember sun
Actually lemme go take a pic
fossil oxide
the one on the very right looks like his/her feet are chopped off....
that cant be right
the feet are probably underwater
tender dune
snow?
tender dune
ember sun
Don’t think it’s the right gap 👀
tender dune
Is that sanc?
ember sun
Yup
tender dune
Hmm dont think its the gap
ember sun
Same 👀 I personally think it’s more like isle cause I think it can use an expansion
tender dune
Same 👌
fossil oxide
yeah i guess i was mistaken...
but just in case can u go in deeper/
plzzzzzzzzzzz
fossil oxide
but daylight`s the best!
ember sun
The gap is really short in terms of length
tender dune
Then the gap would be too close gap in sanc looks to plain when compared to gap in pic
Esp with the bg
fossil oxide
tender dune
The other side is the social space of praire right?
ember sun
Yup
tender dune
ok thanks
I was thinking those guys could come from anywhere, like maybe the gap happened and they were finally released? So maybe thats why we wont find a gap like it
tender dune
That reminded me of something post apocalyptic but let's not mention it here
ember sun
Hmmmmmmmm I just think they messed up big time and didn’t get the chance or time to fix it
mild lark
What happened if king has no choice?
tender dune
Tbh im in between but more into the yes.
A good king would choose his people over his kingdom
I think he might have started neutral, then grew corrupted as he tried to replace megabirb
ember sun
Oh wait
mild lark
And we don't know what actually happened so...
It kinda hit or miss when I say king is bad or good
ember sun
You guys talking about the king and not the elders????
mild lark
Yes
tender dune
Which makes sense why he would dare defile eden mountain that's considered a holy site
mild lark
.. don't actually think we have alot of information about him too lol..
Almost all is speculation
tender dune
Remind me if im wrong its been years but isn't mount olympus considered holy and therefore the place hasnt been built on like eden mountain (pipes of factory)
mild lark
Mount what?
mild lark
Where is that
tender dune
Greece
mild lark
Oh Greek god?
tender dune
Just google mount olympus and you'll get a lot of info.
mild lark
Alright
I can actually imagine king saying "I'm not the villain in this story.. I do what I do because there is no choice"
That a quote from Samuel Hayden
You know what I'll edit it
wispy canopy
Hey guys, sry I haven't come here in a long time, anything awesome happen
tender dune
In most cultures where gods have been worshipped you can see its always in high grounds. Because its "closer to the gods" in a way. Hence mount olympus and other similar holy sites
Heya infinity long time no see
tender dune
I think i remember my friend telling me that the reason why mt. Olympus haven't had things or roads built on was because its a sort of a holy site (mythology speaking if they defiled zeus throne they'd get thanos snapped ). I'll confirm with them better since its their specialty
mild lark
Ooo
wispy canopy
Hey teth
wispy canopy
There's one thing I don't get giys, can u help me
livid valley
Pc or mobile?
mild lark
Mobile
livid valley
Ok you see the image icon? Press that
mild lark
Alright
wispy canopy
There are elders shrines in vault and Eden, but they don't meet at Eden but come at vault, the elders were already dead, and King grave not seen
lethal stump
we saw a broken 7th elder shrine in beta orbit, but it was eventually removed
mild lark
Here is what I imagine king will say lol..
tender dune
I think the shrine we see in eden is the real one. (The one we're at in vault is a hologram/dream)
What's the question infinity?
wispy canopy
We're they dead already, before the boom
lethal stump
the elders ? they aren’t technically dead, nor are they alive
but we don’t know when this happened to them
tender dune
I think what we see in the cutscenes are more like visions of them
wispy canopy
But the ultimate gift makes them intractable spirits after Eden in the star place
untold nest
hi
tender dune
Interactable only to get their hair, other than that they're just standing
livid valley
Hello! Konase
untold nest
I've never been to this chat so... is this chat for theory talking or something?
chrome glade
Yep!
lethal stump
Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
tender dune
livid valley
Haha
chrome glade
livid valley
Nooooo
mild lark
Omg you guys are racing with that lore moff doc
tender dune
I think its cuz they copy the chat thats why it looks weird
livid valley
Exactly
tender dune
Lemme test
tender dune
Hhh
livid valley
eh
mild lark
The copier copied the text with emoji in it
tender dune
Basically we need to put the ** and by ourselves
livid valley
Imagine everyone has their own unique format when giving the doc to a new lore moth
mild lark
Love how excited we are when new moth come
tender dune
I usually copy brikson's exactly and credit (him?)
livid valley
imma do that
lethal stump
yes i go by he/him
tender dune
ok
lethal stump
i kinda hoped the « son » part of my name made that obvious
tender dune
Hahaha it did but u never know
lethal stump
what do you think, frend ?
mild lark
More information is in the pins
untold nest
ok?
thorn portal
Eden king or eden prince might not be a human, if its human and died there should be a grave since he is a ruler, if its a god then there should be a shrine or temple for him, theres no even any spirittual manifestation of the so called king in game
untold nest
mhm...
mild lark
There is lot of statue of king tho
ember sun
Isn’t there a statue of the king or prince in wasteland
untold nest
hmm? where?
tender dune
Yeah king, sol
lethal stump
There’s statues of the king in wasteland
untold nest
(sorry I don't really know)
ember sun
I’m still fairly new to the whole king and prince thing
untold nest
same here
lethal stump
And there’s the prince in Prairie
tender dune
Literally everywhere dw
ember sun
I didn’t know until I saw a pic
They HUGEEEE so I doubt I would’ve recognised it as a statue in game
untold nest
wha-
mild lark
Statue of king
thorn portal
Sky kid can be fallen angels fall down from heaven and cast out coz they choose wrong side, the angel of light lucifer starts the war, and all who sides to him cast out and become fallen, now some of this fallen angels wants to repent to be able to go back in heaven, in order to cleanse their soul rebirth must be done so theres reincarnation in game, sky kid trying to fix everything done wrong
mild lark
Sorry about the firework
tender dune
Eden king or eden prince might not be a human, if its human and died there should be a grave since he is a ruler, if its a god then there should be a shrine or temple for him, theres no even any spirittual manifestation of the so called king in game
I think the reason why is because the eden elder isn't around to be saved anymore (wasnt that the wording?)
mild lark
Concept art
thorn portal
Lucifer also lord of the air, angel of light and associated with planet venus too the morning star
lethal stump
Eden elder isn’t around to be saved anymore
As to why we don’t know
tender dune
mhm
lethal stump
oh, you lot should hear my lucifer theory !
thorn portal
Eden is corrupted by lucifer thru the eye of eden, which symbolize the fruit of knowledge thats the origin of all sins
lethal stump
Lucifer Theory
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
ember sun
Lemme read up on all the theories
thorn portal
Thanks ill read it shortly @lethal stump
livid valley
Made my own one greatly inspired by Brick
Hello new lore
moth! 
Check out this short document to get started. After that make sure to read the pins for more information
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
livid valley
no it's a joke
mild lark
Is that Pepe
untold nest
lol?
livid valley
Pepe yes
ember sun
king statues
lethal stump
Okay, i just don’t want people going and passing the lore moff doc as their own when i have put in effort into making it good
ember sun
(random pic i found on google, i added the red squares to show them)
untold nest
ohh
ember sun
Didn’t know until I saw the concept art pic and I went 👀👄👀
untold nest
care if I'll just put a rough theory I thought of lately in here a while later?
lethal stump
go ahead !
ember sun
How did the megabird became a thing? Like what were the hints
mild lark
Concept art
lethal stump
Megabird is all over the concept arts
mild lark
Again concept art
lethal stump
Here’s what we assume to be Megabird in game
mild lark
so pretty
thorn portal
Is there any spiritual or physical manifestation of megabird in game? In sky world or realms?
ember sun
Are you referring to the concept arts they posted on the anniversary?
thorn portal
Coz that megabird is maybe constellation, does it move? Its like a phoenix a symbolic for immortality but one must exp death to reborn again
ember sun
So sad I missed the anniversary by a few days otherwise I would definitely went to get the very cute birthday hat 🥺🥺
mild lark
Megabird is like the embodiment of life and rebirth cycle.. at least in the concept art
kind bobcat
Well, megabird is often described as a manifestation or symbolization of the rebirth cycle, or is part of the rebirth cycle itself.
crap, got beaten to it
lethal stump
although she also seems sentient at times
in some concepts, she interacts directly with the Prince/Elders
mild lark
One thing for sure.. she is B I G
The ends credit.. we zoomed out so much until we see a planet and stuff but we still didn't see the full picture of megabird
ember sun
Wut. does this mean megabird is orbit ????!!!!!
lethal stump
perhaps, we’re not sure
mild lark
Maaaybe
tender dune
Smiley i just asked my friend and they did confirm about mount olympus thingy i mentioned before
ember sun
Nowwwwww that’s a very interesting theory
mild lark
Alright!
mild lark
What why?
untold nest
hmm... hard to explain
mild lark
It doesn't need to make sense... Tbh
violet lily
Nah all theory’s are welcome, anything is possible
untold nest
well... roughly, the theory is something like... is it possible that our sky kid experienced two "the point of no return"?
first one, a unknown path behind isle and second, obviously, eden
(pretty much impossible that we just "fall down", and in the phrase, that "person" asked our sky kid to "wake up")
(great, this sounds pretty nonsense)
mild lark
Yeah the narrator is very mysterious
untold nest
mhm
mild lark
We all think that maybe the narrator is megabird..
Some people think that it is the king
violet lily
But dose that mean they are always watching?
mild lark
Yes..
That is king or megabird
violet lily
What if it’s both
untold nest
or, the king IS megabird?
exotic shuttle
megaking 👑
lethal stump
Narrator theories by Jay
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
Brick and Oreo are jokes
violet lily
Yeah!
Like we all become apart of the mega bird when we die but the king helps direct it or something
opal briar
I’d love to meet mega bird
ember sun
Btw anyone know why players call the krills, krill and not the official name of dark dragon?
mild lark
Some people suggest that the one singing at orbit is megabird
lethal stump
cause it’s a cooler name
gilded fossil
/tempura
mild lark
They look like krill irl
untold nest
hmm... it's pretty popular of this opinion that the "king" or "megabird" or someone else wants to use our sky kid to solve a mistake they did, which brought darkness or something like that
untold nest
lmao
violet lily
lol 😂
It’s shorter and easier to type so it caught on and is fan cannon
ember sun
Hmmm after looking at a pic of krill, they seriously looks alike
mild lark
Don't be like me.. at first I thought krill looking like mosquito
ember sun
I call winged lights wings or shiny boi and wedges flaps 🤣🤣
trim vale
Y'all got any ideas about the teaser masks?
mild lark
I don't know much about the teaser
untold nest
hmm... but one question, why does the "king"/"megabird" or someone like that wants us to have "endless life" of death and reborn?
ember sun
The early concepts of the krills looks very very creepy
mild lark
Yeah
trim vale
It has a Ghibli vibe to it
mild lark
Konase.. we don't know the motive
ember sun
Just imagine you see this black pool of thing with this bright red eye staring at you in the corner
untold nest
Konase.. we don't know the motive
@mild lark maybe we should make a theory about that?
mild lark
lethal stump
There’s lots of theories about why we’re reborn, Konase
opal briar
What was that dude no face?
ember sun
👁️
lethal stump
but ultimately, it’s up to you
tender dune
We think some are from the masks look like the old concept masks
lethal stump
That looks like a fan art, Sol
opal briar
From spirited away
ember sun
It’s from the concept art tho
tender dune
That would be a thrill to see smiley
lethal stump
i don’t recognize it from any concepts i’ve seen
ember sun
I’m on their twitter page going through the very beautiful concept art
opal briar
The art is amazing
mild lark
Look human teeth so scary...
Oh no I have human teeth too
ember sun
mild lark
Yikes krill couldn't be more worse
tender dune
fun
ember sun
Imagine that thing crawls behind you lmao
untold nest
lol?!
opal briar
It’s a black home .___.
trim vale
It's supposed to be the final cutscene when you finish vault
lime seal
elders?
trim vale
At least that's all I know
trim vale
Yeah there's a lot of em
ember sun
Ooooo that would’ve been really pretty if they used that idea
opal briar
I mean if we burp at our candle we can make a fireball maybe
trim vale
Old elder concepts were weird
untold nest
?
trim vale
Yeah
opal briar
I’m not going to tell you all about a potential flame throwner
trim vale
Well this is lore chat
opal briar
Jet propulsion..
lethal stump
Remember to keep the topic on lore. As cool as concepts are, gawking over them is not the point of this channel
opal briar
Old beta can be lore
untold nest
yep
opal briar
Just unused
ember sun
trim vale
It can but it wouldn't make sense now
lethal stump
Old beta, in relation to current lore, is separate
lethal stump
It had many stories and lore elements added and taken away
ember sun
I wanna know more about the megabird 🌌
lethal stump
There was a period of time where the elder’s bodies could be found floating around the eden diamond, turned to stone
ember sun
Wut
trim vale
Ah yes
untold nest
really?!
lethal stump
What confuses you, Sol ?