oh i personally am partial to the hivemind thing
#lore-discussion-spoilers
rancid onyx
hushed steeple
Rip my other extension theory
rancid onyx
i really need to figure out how sky kids came to be
lamb do you have a take on that one?
hushed steeple
I had a theory in the making for 2 weeks, not finished yet, i hope it will be soon
Oh, the hivemind thing
Wait, there is a hivemind theory?
I thought I made that as a joke
rancid onyx
i thought i had come up with it 
nova sinew
If skykids have masks do you think they have wigs?
sinful anvil
i kinda accepted they are cuz they scratch their heads
nova sinew
Hmmm
rancid onyx
oh god no
nova sinew
Oh no
rancid onyx
me: oh man : ) i love seeing what people come up with! so many interesting takes for this beautiful game : )
blob: sky kids have wigs
me:
hushed steeple
But that channel is this channel
sinful anvil
they must be wigs otherwise how do we change our hair
lethal stump
it’s light
it’s magic
rancid onyx
i regret coming here
nova sinew
Im sorry
rancid onyx
i mean im pretty confident in my theory that sky kids are spirit/creature hybrids
what i dont know is how
or why
also im pretty sure sky kids were literally just born/made
nova sinew
Why are we all kids?
rancid onyx
wdym
nova sinew
Sky kids are kids
rancid onyx
yes
nova sinew
Hmmmm
rancid onyx
so i think to answer the question of why are we here
we gotta know what the "light" is referring to
nova sinew
Yeah
lethal stump
many theorize it has something to do with megabird
rancid onyx
nova sinew
Oh ok
rancid onyx
this is from concept art so it's not fully canon but it's good to go off of
lethal stump
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rancid onyx
i really recommend
lethal stump
read this blob
rancid onyx
yeah
check out the docs/concept art
they're great to start developing your own theories
nova sinew
Im ready
rancid onyx
godspeed
edgy sequoia
this'll probably get you addicted to sky lore
@rancid onyx bahaha
rancid onyx
feel free to give your thoughts on the lore here!
nova sinew
Ok
nova sinew
Please do
edgy sequoia
what if Resh (the king) wanted to be stronger
so he meddled with darkness
and he became corrupt
and before his meddling got the best of him
his people kept on telling him to stop
but he didn't listened
?
edgy sequoia
yeah
rancid onyx
yeah that sounds interesting
just one thing though
why is the capital city so free of darkness then
cause the valley is meant to be that isnt it
short owl
Well... the capitol probably is best taken care of, and least in direct control
Buisnnesses are often in control in a much less direct way than say, a castle
nova sinew
Hmmm
lethal stump
no need for spoilers, and yes
short owl
As long as Valley was a buisness district, the king could have been hands off while maintaining absolute control via a handful of key players who could also sell propoganda to appease the king
sinful anvil
yeah! what if the valley is like the private sector?
nova sinew
?
edgy sequoia
?
sinful anvil
or the valley is like the business sector — people have private properties, can conduct businesses their own way without govt intervention
lethal stump
that’s the private sector
nova sinew
Oh i thought you said private school
sinful anvil
ya but they got confused so i explained it
nova sinew
I get it
rancid onyx
oh yeah i like these takes
sinful anvil
i guess valley might be some independent state, like montreal to canada
edgy sequoia
I have no idea what these sectors mean
sinful anvil
— but w/e
lethal stump
wh
montréal isn’t independent
nova sinew
Yes
sinful anvil
or at least they are campaigning but not indpt currently.
well anyway im not so updated, i wanted an analogy
lethal stump
so, an independence movement ?
edgy sequoia
his people kept on telling him to stop
@edgy sequoia mmm I meant elders qwq
sinful anvil
not much a movement but i guess the city decided to b a bit more different from the rest
nova sinew
Are the spirits the people but dead
lethal stump
it didn’t though ??
just
w/e
it’s clear you’re not from canada
sinful anvil
but in retrospect it’s kinda a problematic hc, bc the idea that there is one set of ppl with different traditions might contradict the lore
nova sinew
?
rancid onyx
i meannnn
the point of the game is connecting what had drifted apart
it totally makes sense that different parts of the kingdom to have different cultures
we commune via the gestures that are taught to us
sinful anvil
suddenly forest elder dropping stones is a mood orz
edgy sequoia
hgbiu;
hushed steeple
Quebec isnt independent, it is identified culturally distinct, the separatist almost made it, it was 49/51 in the 1995 referendum if i recall correctly
But anyways
lethal stump
québec is colonized colonization
colonialception
nova sinew
Are you guys Canadian?
lethal stump
I am
hushed steeple
Sort of
sinful anvil
yeah, i thought quebec is sort of different in a way so i went for dependent/independent
nova sinew
I am
lethal stump
nova sinew
Clearly
sinful anvil
wondering if there was a similar autonomy thing going on in the realms at some point
hushed steeple
Do you guys speak canadian?
sinful anvil
honk you mean ??
cold steppe
yeah, honk
rancid onyx
i definitely think the realms are autonomous
nova sinew
Goose
lethal stump
moose maple syrup québec canadien poutine
dusky sorrel
Hjonk
edgy sequoia
honk honk
dusky sorrel
Canadian goose
cold steppe
I think the realms manage themselves, but they're all united in some way
edgy sequoia
wait aren't we supposed to talk about lore here
hushed steeple
The united states of sky
edgy sequoia
*honk hjonk hokn *
nova sinew
oOpS
cold steppe
The United Realms of Sky
edgy sequoia
PPFFT
lethal stump
URS
hushed steeple
USS sounds better than URS
edgy sequoia
If we're united, how come home is f a r away from other realms?
USS sounds better than URS
@hushed steeple O U R S
rancid onyx
no hear me out
edgy sequoia
- deep thonk *
rancid onyx
the realms arent united and havent been since they started weaponizing/exploiting light
nova sinew
I hear a theory that the spirits travelled realm to realm
hushed steeple
Because home is a mirror, that how we can travel between realms, reflecting light in a certain angle
nova sinew
Hm
rancid onyx
lamb please im not ready for this level of big brain
hushed steeple
That my crackpot theory
cold steppe
surprisingly deep
lethal stump
imo, home is like an elder room
cold steppe
I'm still salty that they removed the portals back to Home
they looked cooler than the kneeling circles
hushed steeple
Removed what?
rancid onyx
it is very odd how we're able to teleport from realm to realm
cold steppe
you know where the white circles are at the beginning of the realms or so that will take you back to home? they used to be portals
like the ones at home
nova sinew
Oh ok
rancid onyx
that doesn't make it better
hushed steeple
You know you are really bad at lore when your crackpot theories are deeper than your exhaustive theories
cold steppe
what do you define as bad
hushed steeple
No one remembers
nova sinew
I only have crackpot theories
cold steppe
all theories are welcome
rancid onyx
so we're light
cold steppe
ooo
nova sinew
Mine earlier was skykids have wigs
rancid onyx
noooooooo
nova sinew
Exactly
rancid onyx
NOOOOOO
hushed steeple
Noooo, when you see a question mark, you know your theory died
rancid onyx
ok countertheory
nova sinew
Please
rancid onyx
since we're able to become immaterial and get beamed to focal points in realms
hushed steeple
That the lesson I learnt after one month spent in lore disscussions
rancid onyx
then in theory we should be able to edit our physical appearance
so it's technically wigs but less cursed
nova sinew
Sure
rancid onyx
im open to counter counterarguments though
hushed steeple
Rhetoric question mark*
cold steppe
counter counterargument: the cosmetics are holograms so we can project whatever we want onto the skykid
nova sinew
Hmm
nova sinew
Yeah
hushed steeple
Counter^3 argument, the sky child is not animate, they only animate in the presence of light, or some volume of light contained in us, hence we return to our original form in eden. What breaks out of our shell is the player, the will of the player, we are its spirit
That is really dark
hushed steeple
Yes, I was waiting for someone to bring up clay
rancid onyx
ancient/spirit stuff given life by megabirb
rancid onyx
i'd love to hear them!
lethal stump
ill write a list of what i can remember
- wax
- clay
- stone
- darkstone
- light
- some sort of mixture of 2+ of the above
nova sinew
When we die we become statues that are in eden right
lethal stump
we call them the Fallen
rancid onyx
the things in eden used to be actual people/spirits
hushed steeple
Do you guys want to hear an unfinished theory on everything sky child or wait until it is finished
rancid onyx
we're made with the express purpose of uniting the kingdom and freeing their spirits
to feed megabirb
go ahead
hushed steeple
I really want to finish it then present it though, it is going to be a huge writeup
nova sinew
Ok
hushed steeple
Ok
short owl
I think we're dark creatures caring a light core
cold steppe
we become statues for like 2 seconds before we shatter
rancid onyx
it's because the statues that are already don't have a light core like we do
what makes you think that null?
edgy sequoia
hmm
nova sinew
What are winged light?
rancid onyx
the yellow children you get your wings from
nova sinew
I mean why are they there
lethal stump
we dunno
it’s up to you to decide
edgy sequoia
good question :0
rancid onyx
i'm not sue if they're connected to megabirb
since i see no reason it would want to strengthen our core further
nova sinew
?
rancid onyx
i mean
pseudo lagoon
does anyone have the opening cutscene script?
lethal stump
it’s in the pins !
rancid onyx
assuming megabird was able to give us as strong a core as it wanted
why would it not give us the extra lights in the beginning
hushed steeple
If I forget just ping me and ask
cold steppe
the devs said the winged light are imprints of the child/children of light
what exactly the child/children of light is/are has not been revealed yet, though some speculate it could be the king and/or Eden elder
hushed steeple
The opening sequence is intentionally vague
edgy sequoia
what if the Valley elders were the children of Resh--
hushed steeple
It is unclear what "bring home" signify, the message varies from localization to localization
edgy sequoia
idk why I thought of that ;-;
rancid onyx
alright wanna hear a stupid theory
nova sinew
Yes
rancid onyx
home isn't a physical place
nova sinew
Ok
rancid onyx
like
the reason we need to meditate to get back there is because it links with the hivemind thing
it's a mental place
hushed steeple
Is it safe to assume that chat is not part of lore, not language just the chat function, and that sky child communicate through other means
rancid onyx
oh yeah
hushed steeple
Bricky, can you confirm?
rancid onyx
im assuming sky kids communicate via honks
edgy sequoia
hjonk
rancid onyx
and lights
nova sinew
And emotes
rancid onyx
right
edgy sequoia
what if Skykids are actually mute
edgy sequoia
I think
rancid onyx
yeah i love that theory
edgy sequoia
krazy i love that take
@rancid onyx pls call me Melon or KM ^^
nova sinew
I never thought i would mentally honk at someone in a game
edgy sequoia
hehehehe
kind bobcat
Knowing that meditation can take us to places outside of time and space
Could be that everything skykids do is related to their mind somehow 
edgy sequoia
ooh
kind bobcat
The inner workings of a skykid's mind is an enigma
nova sinew
mentally honks in agreement
edgy sequoia
hjonk hjonk
gilded fossil
/hooooooonk\
lean monolith
..björger!
gilded fossil
/is the a hierchy tho? Usually hives minds has someone on top
edgy sequoia
The King
kind bobcat
Probably the megabird
kind bobcat
The king is dead, as in dead dead
edgy sequoia
I forgot the Megabird still exists
kind bobcat
Maybe "The Light" is the embodiment of their hive mind
gilded fossil
/why arent we getting orders....
gilded fossil
/guys maybe the king is at the top but kìng ded so no orders
rancid onyx
king rejected megabirb
gilded fossil
/free us comrades
rancid onyx
the king failed because he was about monarchy
severe skiff
I wonder....if the light at the end is actually just all of us. The sun. The source of all power and light and magic and energy and everything. And we keep getting sent back to the plain of physicality so that we can collect lost light and bring it back to the source. We are like bees collecting pollen for the growth and development of the hive. No direct orders. We just “know” this is what we need to do.
rancid onyx
the theme of sky is about connecting with ppl
edgy sequoia
he want 2 get stronger
rancid onyx
yeah that's megabirb kalika
edgy sequoia
hmm
lethal stump
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edgy sequoia
When there's sun/light, the place is safe except in Wasteland
kind bobcat
I dont think that's actually THE megabird
wait it could be the megabird itself
Tomcepts where you at
lethal stump
or the sun is part of megabird
edgy sequoia
watching over us grow
gilded fossil
/or megan made the sun
nova sinew
I ve never seen the sun
rancid onyx
yeah same
gilded fossil
/sun visible in citadel
lethal stump
and orbit
nova sinew
Oh
pseudo lagoon
this place in eden looks like a sun, i didn’t get a picture of it, the pillar is in the way
i’ll try to find the photo
rancid onyx
orbit isn't really actually outer space
pseudo lagoon
with it in
rancid onyx
it's spirit place
edgy sequoia
No sun visible in Wasteland either
lethal stump
wasteland has a moon
nova sinew
Oh
kind bobcat
in this image the megabird has a few fish/creatures behind it
severe skiff
Or is it really the moon? Maybe it’s the sun blocked by the clouds.
edgy sequoia
Def a moon
nova sinew
I dont look up that often
kind bobcat
And in the office pool it has birds.
edgy sequoia
a crescent one
edgy sequoia
both Eden and Wasteland has crescent moon
kind bobcat
Isn't eden still in the planet?
edgy sequoia
the moon is fully visible in Ark
pseudo lagoon
edgy sequoia
I think the sun is visible via Orbit because there is no darkness there
rancid onyx
orbit isnt outer space though
edgy sequoia
It is I think
pseudo lagoon
but there’s planets there
edgy sequoia
I just thought of Orbit as mthe Megabird itself
rancid onyx
no im saying its like a spiritual representation
pseudo lagoon
pseudo lagoon
that’s in the cutscene but it’s still orbit
edgy sequoia
I just thought of Orbit as mthe Megabird itself
@edgy sequoia m m
rancid onyx
since after you finish it gives you another body to go another go
severe skiff
I love the idea of all of this being a spiritual representation
alpine geyser
The orbit seems like megabird itself
edgy sequoia
that planet is far from orbit
pseudo lagoon
stars fell, so they must’ve fallen from space right
pseudo lagoon
i don’t get the difference between orbit and space
i like to@think the portals are in home space so you can go@to where the stars fell, aka on different planets
edgy sequoia
If the realms on different planets
severe skiff
Orbit is still around our atmosphere while space is way out.
alpine geyser
Nope buddy
edgy sequoia
then how come they're connected
kind bobcat
The sky kingdom is in one planet.
alpine geyser
Cameio#1080
^ The levels of sky are just the same place at different points in time
Undermining Theory of JavaHolly#1171(Wasteland and Forest being geographically connected)
DrapTrap#6226
Area of First Krill is a destroyed version of the forest temple. Same level, different time.
*Supporting DrapTrap#6226 {TheRainStopped#8201}> Skychildren must be witnessing the
ruins of each stage of development of the same place.
~Forest and Wasteland used to be the same world or connected -littlekrill#4925
~Wasteland was a diamond production site -lonelyste#5303
severe skiff
Ooooh. Like maybe valley is the red planet!!
edgy sequoia
o o oh
kind bobcat
The time loop/lock theories could explain whatever it is going on
edgy sequoia
but they said Valley is the capital
kind bobcat
yeah
pseudo lagoon
and just saying in pins it says any theory shouldn’t be put down let my mind run :,)
kind bobcat
Valley is the capital of the civilization
severe skiff
I always feel like Wasteland was once a grand citadel with big bustling cities. Destroyed by time and darkness.
severe skiff
Yes. Exactly!
edgy sequoia
hhmmm
alpine geyser
This could be the area flourished and so became a capital or something
pseudo lagoon
need to get rid of sewage
kind bobcat
and just saying in pins it says any theory shouldn’t be put down let my mind run :,)
@pseudo lagoon Knowing we have doors that can open with candles and floating boats, everything is possible
severe skiff
And the grand walls outside.
edgy sequoia
wait wait
alpine geyser
Cause i see the structure in broken temple matches the one in forest tenple
pseudo lagoon
and light
severe skiff
The broken tower tops could have been homes long since buried.
edgy sequoia
What if Wasteland is actually the real capital??? But then war broke out there and so Valley became the capital instead
pseudo lagoon
maybe
severe skiff
That would definitely make sense.
alpine geyser
All the mechanical stuffs work using power diamond
pseudo lagoon
ok ima run away with my crazy theories
edgy sequoia
I think so
kind bobcat
Some theories say the machines in the forest temple and broken temple are power diamond presses.
pseudo lagoon
bye bye 
severe skiff
Or maybe the valley was once a place for entertainment. And battles. And it became the capital.
Like a giant arena.
edgy sequoia
I once saw a big diamond at the exit of Shipwreck to the main temple
alpine geyser
Power diamond are used almost everywhere the doors you open. Forest bridge. Even the elevator in vault has a giant power diamond beneath
edgy sequoia
And there were also diamond bits peeking out at the diamond factory
severe skiff
I remember watching a movie as a little girl where diamonds were extracted for their light and energy. Maybe someone tried to steal the sky kids lights and the constellations and that’s why the stars fell.
But too many diamonds were extracted causing massive damage to the planet and took out civilization
alpine geyser
People also believe they created massive power diamond in eden to give large energy with beam of light but if got too much power and resulted into fractured power diamond and caused flying rocks and storm in eden
lethal stump
canonically, skids are « new » so to speak
we didn’t coexist with ancestors or elders—
alpine geyser
Also the Power diamond in eden turned red
severe skiff
Hmmmmmm. Ok. So sky kids are basically flecks of diamond dust left behind by the miners. Lol
kind bobcat
No
severe skiff
I like the idea of being flecks of the diamonds. Lol.
edgy sequoia
same
kind bobcat
Well, some theories say the skykids are made out of darkstone
kind bobcat
Which is one of the materials that make up power diamonds
severe skiff
We must be really tiny too. If krill looks@like a dragon to us.
Oooh. Dark stone made into light.
kind bobcat
Size 1 is actually 3'
Darkstone is a material that can absorb and store light
Similar to how semiconductors block and conduct electric currents
severe skiff
Ohhhhh. Ok!!
edgy sequoia
So uh, I saw a random screenshot and I saw this
It looks like the exact thing of Forest elder's headgear
Screenshot from: @hot prairie
alpine geyser
I believe forest and wasteland are absolutely connected or are same place at different time
severe skiff
Does the forest have any buildings with that top?
edgy sequoia
I'm not sure
severe skiff
Perhaps there are different things@like this in each place to@pay homage to the elders from each zone?
alpine geyser
Yea
edgy sequoia
Forest Elder has the king's face :0
kind bobcat
Not exactly
Forest elder's mask is a rhombus.
The king's mask is an 8 pointed star, with the middle-top point elongated.
sinful anvil
why is the thrillseeker’s mask same as ours?
edgy sequoia
They kinda look like the Enchantment ones but without the masks or beard
I have no idea
spring blaze
theyre the most skykid lookin spirit out there
rancid onyx
uh
what
do you mean thrillseeker is a sky kid or that later generations of the spirits looked like us
hushed steeple
What if Wasteland is actually the real capital??? But then war broke out there and so Valley became the capital instead
@edgy sequoia Valley in the concept art is the place of the king's coronation, specifically the amphitheater
But then again, concept art isnt canon
edgy sequoia
hmm yes
sly kestrel
Sort of it is, sort of it isn’t
Valley consisted of both the rich and the poor, there would be slums and there would be higher detail residents. But both classes met together at the arena thingy to watch and celebrate the events that took place in valley of triumph. The games, the fireworks, the audience and the entertainers, this was all made in celebration to the kings victory in the fire era. He led the ppl to victory against the creatures
This place is also where he was crowned king
rancid onyx
didnt they create the creatures?
sly kestrel
no
sly kestrel
But u can head canon if u want, all theories are welcome
sly kestrel
Wanna hear the truth to all lore 👀
rancid onyx
is it gonna be the document
edgy sequoia
Wanna hear the truth to all lore 👀
@sly kestrel yes please
sly kestrel
There is none
There is no hidden story for us to figure out and uncover, currently the devs don’t have a written out and concrete story for the game. Their goal was to make the story very very vague so we can make our own story and create the lore with our imaginations. There’s bases of confirmed canon but like I said, their main goal was for us to imagine our story to make it to our satisfaction
And that’s what this chat is for, not necessarily to help each other figure out a story, but to let ur imagination run wild and an open place for ppl to let out their head canon theories and their view on the lore
rancid onyx
blocked
lmao i thought you were gonna give some Deep Thinks on the nature of the game's society
i agree though
sly kestrel
When we say “it’s not canon” it doesn’t always mean “it’s not the correct answer”
It mainly means “there is no correct answer that the devs have”
sly kestrel
Ppl come here to get answers on the story and to get a lore explanation on a concrete story, but sadly that doesn’t exist
Even tho we love lore, this game mainly focuses a lot on the gameplay experience and the fun of being with friends and to be “an amusement park”, not as much as the game journey where u go through a story and adventure.
Same here 
rancid onyx
oh of course
sly kestrel
Although there is some hope
Tgc does listen to our requests, and they listened to some of the requests when they made the season of enchantment. It was said that there were many requests in having more lore related seasons and that’s why the season of enchantment had more story then the other seasons. Point is, u can request for more lore in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived and who knows, they might make a concrete story one day
rancid onyx
nah i dont want a concrete story either
sly kestrel
Head canon it is then
rancid onyx
just for them to give us some more ambiguous stuff to build around
i wish valley would have an expansion in next season
short owl
And this is why I always ask for red herrings or nonsense when we get devs in here
rancid onyx
i know people want isle to be expanded but that's a pretty straightforward lore area and it's a tutorial on top of that
short owl
The best stuff isn't concrete. It's stuff that allows nonsense to take over
rancid onyx
exactly
for example
that cave in the coronation stage of valley
what is up with that
we have no idea!
i really like your coronation take jay
im gonna steal it
rancid onyx
oh
sly kestrel
Ye, everything I said earlier wasn’t head canon
rancid onyx
damn
short owl
Megabird having mind control powers, on the other hand...
sly kestrel
Back then I used to think they made this enormous story and each update and season they reveal more and thischat helps discuss and figure out this story and focus on what’s right and wrong
But sadly, that wasn’t the case, I used to be guilty of shutting down a lot of theories before
Now I know that there technically isn’t a right answer at all
It’s also why I always say
“All theories are welcome”
rancid onyx
honestly props to tgc to be able to give us stuff with so much room for interpretation while not favoring any interpretation any more
short owl
The facts are made up and the lore is darkmatter
rancid onyx
the lore is void
sly kestrel
Okay
short owl
H pls don't insult H. Insults are rude.
sage breach
Does someone knows where to find the beta bird from Forest? Or it just dont exist anymore?
rancid onyx
is this about megan
sly kestrel
Prolly not
sage breach
In the beta version of forest a bird guided the Children and stuff
sly kestrel
Yeah that bird is long gone, and currently there’s no way to rlly find it or bring it back
rancid onyx
megabirb hivemind
sly kestrel
And so far, tgc hasn’t made any hidden Easter eggs out of bounds ........I think
lethal stump
mario star ?
short owl
I totally take beta guide bird as evidence of hive mind
rancid onyx
theres the elder room, rainbow bridge
sly kestrel
I took out “yet” bc I remember reika hid a Mario star
Those are simple oob places, not much Easter eggs
The rainbow bridge was a texture wall glitch that they kept bc everyone liked it and wanted tgc to keep it in game
The “elder room” is jus the place where the vault cutscene takes place, it’s not necessarily meant to be discovered
rancid onyx
ah
short owl
The greatest trick Megan ever pulled was making us believe we were free to make our own decisions
sly kestrel
Also null u should check out old beta clips, the guide bird was pretty interesting
sage breach
I do think mega bird still a thing
sage breach
Yeah me too!
sinful anvil
in sanctuary the crabs in distant island pieces and crave crabs are different. the former is smooth kinda like rocks. the latter has black pieces on them. prbly darkness
make what you will
also as skykids, are we meant to discover what happened here? did megabird expect us to know what happened? or expect us to follow her version of events?
rancid onyx
i believe we are expected to know
a huge part of the game is "getting to know" spirits
and reuniting the five realms via doing exactly that
willow shoal
rancid onyx
tbh i believe megabirb is benevolent
willow shoal
megan is a god that created the all world
lethal stump
wait, five ?
lethal stump
we don’t know what megan has done
lethal stump
forest
deft stump
Forest
lethal stump
and eden
willow shoal
forbidden Forest
deft stump
Some people said,orbit is a realm-
So-?
rancid onyx
orbit is megabirb
lethal stump
orbit isn’t really a realm
deft stump
Megabirb
lethal stump
it’s an extension of eden
deft stump
Ohhh
rancid onyx
i mean
dont take my words as fact
but i dont think orbit is actually orbit
or a physical place
deft stump
Yes
rancid onyx
im saying
the ascent into orbit is way too fast to be the actual thing
i think its a mental/mystical thing
deft stump
willow shoal
I guess orbit is the center of universe
rancid onyx
megabirb is the center
willow shoal
I think megabird is the whole universe
as the credits end, the megabird appears, then it turns to flame of a candle
edgy sequoia
And so far, tgc hasn’t made any hidden Easter eggs out of bounds ........I think
@sly kestrel I think the Apple matrix in Eden is one
I took out “yet” bc I remember reika hid a Mario star
@sly kestrel wait where's the mario star I must find it with my friendos
tender dune
willow shoal
Mario star？
edgy sequoia
it's found in the multiple krill area
and you access it via chibi
there's a lot of floors you have to thru
wide holly
wot is Mario star :0
tender dune
Btw did anyone figure out the poop?
wide holly
💩
edgy sequoia
what poop
willow shoal
anything in sky is made of poop except light
wide holly
HAHA
edgy sequoia
And what apple matrix?
@sly kestrel I can take you there if you want ^^
tender dune
Im busy rn unfortunately;
edgy sequoia
It's technically an oob area
wide holly
its in eden with the area with three krill
its kinda under a bundle of rocks in the little cave that you enter where you are in a safe zone from the krill and enter the next area
edgy sequoia
you need to be chibi tho
wide holly
the area with the crabbies hehe
edgy sequoia
yes
wide holly
oh yeah chibi
willow shoal
under the crabs room?
edgy sequoia
me and my friendo worshipped that crystal
wide holly
have to be smol
tender dune
they meant in the pipes
edgy sequoia
yes
wide holly
yeah under the crab room
tender dune
I usually dont go chibi in eden, guess ill try next week👌
wide holly
i couldn't help it I ran into big ccrystal twice
wide holly
lost everything T-T but I picked me up afterwards
wide holly
yes of course >:D
willow shoal
we use wl to save the trapped souls there
edgy sequoia
yes
lethal stump
the fallen stars are the elders
spring blaze
mario star was a joke lol
lethal stump
but they aren’t stars
they’re just fallen
edgy sequoia
I thought it was a legit thing
spring blaze
willow shoal
chinese call them the travelers
tender dune
Oh i have some of sunday's upclose orbit pics . Adjusted the brightness in the last picture
I used to think its just mantas circling
But now i see diamond rubbles
willow shoal
too bright
tender dune
hushed steeple
That's an egg
willow shoal
yesss
rancid onyx
thats megabirv
willow shoal
a huge cell
edgy sequoia
mitochondria
rancid onyx
I thought thats what megabirb makes our new bodies out of
tender dune
Since the mantas are circling like crazy
willow shoal
wormhole
edgy sequoia
wait since Orbit is is in space, how on earth did the mantas and birds fly without suffocating?
edgy sequoia
what about the whale
willow shoal
all lives go to megan's body to rebirth, and then megan sends souls to the earth
rancid onyx
is it?
j mean it would be weird if there were a physical place where there’s a door that straight up rebirths you
edgy sequoia
lmaoo
rancid onyx
“honey gonna go get some cof- aw honk i need to live my whole life again”
edgy sequoia
y e s
spring blaze
dont u know?? thats how giving birth works we leave through an opening and enter the real, physical world
rancid onyx
i know you said it as a joke but damn the symbolism works
spring blaze
i know
tender dune
rancid onyx
oh god my eyes
tender dune
loweryourbrightnessdude
edgy sequoia
wait no buy milk
tender dune
I kept hearing a cracking noise when I was in stormlock. Dunno if it was my game bugging out or if i just noticed that sound anyone got any idea??
Same
I raised the vol to hear that clearer and felt that its strange..
Its a bit loud^^
The crackling sound stayed there even if i was away from flames or statues so it's not the flames fire crackling
mighty plank
i heard theres an extra winged late next to the door before you’re reborn or smthg 👀
light**
tender dune
Something else i noticed was the doors at home (you'll notice when u login/new to the game too)
The base of the door is dark but the top is light colored except for isle
Edit: Can't take a screenshot rn of vault door but is it me or is the dark base color decreasing?
Like when u start at prarie and end at vault it keeps getting shorter right??
agile flare
megabirb is named megan or is that something else?
tender dune
Fanmade name is megan
agile flare
ahhh cool cool this is really entertaining to read lol
tender dune
Could this symbolise the realm getting impure/polluted?
Possible
mighty plank
i read this concept about vault being a dream and reliving your skykids life because each floor is supposed to represent a different realm + there’s no social space and cosmetic area in vault so... you can’t change your clothes in a dream maybe 👀
kind bobcat
Game mechs i think
The bases of the portals are always there when you first enter the game
But you need to unlock each realm before the portal gets fully built
tender dune
Can't take a screenshot rn of vault door but is it me or is the dark base color decreasing?
Like when u start at prarie and end at vault it keeps getting shorter right??
Unrelated note is this the poop?? The cloud that looks like a face
- screms reikkaaaaa *
Maybe not
The devs call it poop. But it might not actually be poop
edgy sequoia
where is poop
broken basin
Read the second line carefully
broken basin
A second ago you were asking what is poop and now you alrdy know
tender dune
I dont think its the pipe waste
broken basin
Don't take me srsly, i b like that sometimes melon
But that is the toxic waste, not necessarily poop.
tender dune
It might not be 'actual physical poop/waste'
broken basin
I think they mean something poop shaped 💩
tender dune
The devs call it poop so it might be something
broken basin
It's processed krill poop
tender dune
Thanks to goober for giving a small summary
So the clues given by Reika and ktjn
- It is intentional
- It exists
- It's not OOB
- We can see it
- It's not in the office
Im always asleep when the devs show up so i can't show them the pics 
(timezone)
broken basin
You remember when there was a darkness plant coming out of the office wc and then a krill used to come out of the wc, that was hilarious
tender dune
Could be
kind bobcat
Potential Poop #1
eternal hearth
I-
kind bobcat
I havent even started searching in isle yet.
tender dune
edgy sequoia
they should make a channel called poop-hunting
kind bobcat
The poop can be anything
tender dune
I think i did notice that stone stack in sunnyside cave area but my game always crashes there :)
tender dune
We should make a collage of those poop stones to show reika later😂
edgy sequoia
I can't really imagine the scenario
Thanks to goober for giving a small summary
So the clues given by Reika and ktjn
- It is intentional
- It exists
- It's not OOB
- We can see it
- It's not in the office
@tender dune maybe they could've added a hint as to which site it might be
like a poem or something
tender dune
Nope
Reika just showed up suddenly and was like "there's poop in the game"
😂
You can find the messages if you search for poop and reika in this channel
edgy sequoia
is it pinned?
kind bobcat
deep zephyr
About the masks in valley, i have a new idea. i saw the big fish's face (in eden) (maybe they are called white krill ?idk) and the outline looks kinda similar to the masks in valley.
we already know that spirits worship light creatures to some extent.(idont have pics tho)
i used to think valley is the place where athletes competing. But now im thinking, is there any possibility that valley is the place for training sodiers ? and masks is the symbol of soldiers .
we usually call it a whale
lethal stump
or Tuna King
barren bloom
lyric isle
ah
edgy sequoia
yes
sinful stratus
Are the box like windows in forest temple really manta jail?
deep zephyr
boxes like windows ?👀 🤔
kind bobcat
Well, there's no confirmed explanation about that.
But yeah, personally i believe those were manta cages
open hill
Poor mantas
tender dune
pseudo lagoon
i think theyre manta cages, they look really similar to the things in journey(i cant remember the name of them don’t bash me)
short owl
Manta jail
gilded fossil
/i mean if we got through the cutscene in forest there are just mantas coming out everywhere, not from the tower tho
/also, this structure is similar to the one in WL, and looking around there is no way a manta could have been there, so maybe the jails were movable?
tender dune
they come out of the caged walls from the right and left
gilded fossil
/oh
mild lark
I'm still puzzled on how the cloud in sky just stay there
The wind is heavy too
So why didn't the cloud move?,
Not to mention every time we touch a cloud.. a sudden force of wind push us away
rancid onyx
i just assumed we were really weak
mild lark
And the cloud aren't even in the literal sky. You know like where cloud supposed to be
rancid onyx
the realm is clearly higher than normal ground
we see a literal forest under the clouds
mild lark
Yes
But my point is... Cloud supposed to be like 10km away from ground.. normal white cloud.
Sometimes low attitude cloud seem to be heavy ... Full of water
Basically when it time to rain.
You know what I'm clearly overthinking this.
Let's not inject too much reality to a game where boats can fly
gilded fossil
cause then how did a manta get trapped in it
/well in the memos of cry emote one of the miners got stuck in a darkness plant to. A virus/disease perhaps
hushed steeple
█
topaz girder
WHY ARE THER BA RS
hushed steeple
Manta cage
gilded fossil
/people explot manta
hushed steeple
What jen
topaz girder
i know
but the gaps are too big , while mantas can just go sideways
gilded fossil
█
@hushed steeple /uh just wondering what's this
i know
but the gaps are too big , while mantas can just go sideways
@topaz girder /imagine like tho comics where prisoners just walks outta the cage
gilded fossil
/i. need,more. mural
/i need more lore!! I'm not happy with what we have rn!!!!!
hushed steeple
Find the poop🙂
gilded fossil
/what poop?
tender dune
hushed steeple
You don't know about the mysterious poop?
tender dune
Ami^
hushed steeple
That's stone
gilded fossil
/no we need real poop
hushed steeple
Where's reika... We need the answer
gilded fossil
/is Reika talking about the office?
short owl
Reika say poop not in office
normal berry
Ive made some interesting observations that probably mean absolutely nothing
short owl
Reika also say poop is prince but I no like that
normal berry
me neither
short owl
Ri: GOOD
gilded fossil
/poop is us since we get flush down wastland evertime
normal berry
I suppose so now
gilded fossil
/will reika elaborate on who's poop is it
hushed steeple
gilded fossil
/guys that sorta confirms prince existenc
normal berry
anyways about my interesting observations: using the black hair glitch, some hairstyles turn a very dark shade of black while some have a lighter/grayish color
gilded fossil
/we never had any info about whether prince real or not
normal berry
lemme get photos
short owl
normal berry
no worries, i have a bunch in my gallery
gilded fossil
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
/noooooooo not red herrings
gilded fossil
/guys maybe the prince's ashes are what pollute wl
hushed steeple
Those pics decreased my honk Power ngl
normal berry
Maybe, i was thinking they created the newer hair cosmetics in a different way then the older, therefore the different shades
mellow sable
heres an interesting thing I've noticed, normally when you flap it makes a flap sound, but when near creatures of light (except jellyfish) it does the little whoosh sound it does in orbit
tender dune
even when u flap (as flying mode) you will hear the same sparkly whoosh sound like in orbit
rancid onyx
that works in favor of "orbit is megan"
tender dune
just raise ur vol up
mellow sable
next to creatures of light it's a full on WHOOSH
try going to bird nest or sanctuary
the big mantas make you whoosh as well
tender dune
also dunno if its lighting or not but also i think the underside of the cape turns blue, which is the same blue color we get when the red eden crystals on the ground drain our light
mellow sable
i think it's because you're wearing the founders cape yeah
tender dune
no even without my founders cape
mellow sable
flapping reverts a capes colors to the "day" variant
tender dune
i usually wear the sunglasses cape
mellow sable
even for a split second
so that's the color difference you're seeing
btw, what screen recorder do you use?
tender dune
just the one on my phone xD it came with the update (samsung)
this is the blue color it reminded me of
tender dune
yeah
short owl
This gives me an idea about how we fly in Orbit. Maybe flapping isn't the whole of how we fly, but rather we have autokinisis as a darkstone power. The cape would turn blue while we flap because we are consuming the light needed to move ourselves.
rancid onyx
you know
tender dune
possible
rancid onyx
i think you're onto something
we spend light moving our non "light" bodies in the sky
that's why it instantly recharges in orbit
in another words
according to all known laws of aviation
tender dune
like even when u notice in stormlock, it looks like the sKid is removing the wl from the hole in his chest
rancid onyx
there is no way an elder should be able to fly
yeah we rip our light core to free the fallen
short owl
The fallen would be more made of light so of course they fly faster, but they see us struggle a little so they loop back around to check on us when we lose the animal escorts
rancid onyx
the fallen aren't made of light
their souls are
and we're there to free em
but yeah the thing about them flying faster than us is weird
deep zephyr
they cant fly or why they built ark 0.0
tender dune
?
short owl
Antigravity spells?
tender dune
i dont remember any flying spirits plz remind me
short owl
Not all spirits happen to have them or practice using them, so not all use them so not all fly.
I think one in the citadel
deep zephyr
i mean why some spirits have wings while other are not （if they cant fly, why they have wings 🤔 ）
rancid onyx
they have capes right
not wings
i mean i'd wear those capes too and i can't fly
i do think it's odd that we look so similar to some spirits
i don't know if that's by actual design or just casualty of us being hybrids
deep zephyr
omg i always think capes is equal to wings（its wrong）
mellow sable
question
tender dune
answer
mellow sable
why is it that we're the only skykid with cosmetics in orbit
deep zephyr
i don't know if that's by actual design or just casualty of us being hybrids
@rancid onyx i have a groundless guess. the creature ( how can we call it? giant bird? icant remmember) want skykids to be smart enough to save souls.
（light creatures are too kind and simple to change the situation）
also not too smart (like elders and prince) so that they wont do harm to the fallen kingdom .
maybe its nonsense lol
so they like spirits
short owl
raf: maybe the others are still strangers?
deep zephyr
*are like
mellow sable
but the friends don't have cosmetics either
and why is it that we see our "friends" in orbit
I don't really get that
tender dune
the stones we help in stormlock are plain, so they were reborn plain. we died with our cosmetics so we were reborn with cosmetics
and why is it that we see our "friends" in orbit
and if u notice the friends constellation is called The Light. which makes sense why they'd show up in orbit
mellow sable
also, this is probably more of a bug, but real friends you go to orbit with appear to be capeless to you
tender dune
yeah i noticed that i think its a bug too xD
hushed steeple
@mellow sable maybe it's foreshadowing that all your friends will go to Eden?
tender dune
i think its more like the friends who went to rebirth in eden??
short owl
I suppose it's also possible that you only think you have cosmetics because they are part of what makes the whole you. You've lost your body, so the cosmetics may not actually be there, but you feel as if they are anyway
When you fly, it's only the light in control, and the light alone is plain, but the dark is still there, remembering the who
mellow sable
I'm not sure if you can play instruments in the ascention sequence
I think you can?
deep zephyr
also, this is probably more of a bug, but real friends you go to orbit with appear to be capeless to you
@mellow sable im curious about it too. in eden we are lighter than in any other places and there we looks similar to light creatures (comparing to normal state ) but in others eyes, skykids have no cape, we fly ,not using cape given by the outer world, but the power inside
rancid onyx
we can make cosmetics appear because we're holograms
the thing we see when we lose our fire is our true physical form
deep zephyr
agree