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Is anyone playing the game rn ?
i am, why ?
Are you home? Or somewhere you can check the masks of what we sKids get?
im at home
Could you pretty please take a screen shot of all sKid masks please?
they’re under « cosmetics »
here, specifically
https://sky-children-of-the-light.fandom.com/wiki/Cosmetics
Thank you for the link 
i'm currently staring at a photo of what someone claims to be the outside of vault and it kind of looks like the king?
can you show ?
The lookout scout is facing the Same direction as the elder who built gwl fort, is facing .....the faint warrior dies by a wound to his stomach/ribs/side.
that's just the top of the wasteland temple isn't it?
yeah, that’s not vault, that’s the king statue on the wasteland temple
the wall behind it is vault
In concept art that’s a defense turret statue
ohh i see-
do we know if the Launch Tracks are canon ? there seems to be......more sky language 
well while i'm here could someone dumb down what king propaganda is? 
Maybe they take it in good humor because we actually set out to find them
king wants people to see him as the one in charge, so he puts his face/likeness everywhere
If they had been there for a while, and we showed up, the fact that we helped them not be in the middle of the wasteland exausted probably outweighs any emotion caused by watching us mimic them
I like the idea of the Prince being Chibi small still while everyone thinks he’s this huge figure due to his towering statues and mecha ....but he’s just got small person complex
maybe not chibi per se, he’s the size of us in the concepts, but compared to the elders and ancestors he is rather short
what if we don't have the opposite to a chibi mask because the king hogged it to himself? 
all because he wanted a giant mech suit, smh shinji
it's like...mecha mask
the tall mask is the king mask, the ultimate ultimate 
what if we don't have the opposite to a chibi mask because the king hogged it to himself?
@orchid crypt oh my god I now need a mecha mask! Reika where’s my king mecha mask!!
i still find the faint spirit's train of thought pretty amusing though; not only does he take the sky kid's antics in good humour, he even goes a step further with emote upgrades
Faint warrior was rebel leader ?
we have no idea, Oz
Or perhaps a leading general...
he can be anything, oz
the rest is theory
as long as it’s warrior-ish
And he was stabbed
also, Hello everyone
Hey Bluespirit!
the Krill is back to beam you all
Jesus, I was just about the ping you ! Lol
control the pings! 
i hope devs pop in today
i need to ask if the language in the launch songs is the same as the one in live
Trying (sweating and struggling not to ping every comment)
hi blue 
i need to know if it’s worth it to transcribe them 
considering how we pore over concept art -- that'll be a yes either way
I have to do some college stuff first, but then I want to try and draw the graveyard critter 
yknow what
im making a linguistics of sky pdf
I wanna add to the power diamond idea... (the #kingChernobylTheory)
🔹x2 + 🔸x2 = 💠
But... Aleph thought that
🔹> 🔷 +
= 💠
And he was wrong...
it = ♦️ + 🌩️
because it must be equal parts light;

and equal parts dark stone. If it is not balanced then...Eye of Eden Storm Lock Chernobyl
But... Aleph thought that
🔹> 🔷 += 💠
@compact olive what do you mean?
Can’t wait to see it Bricky, you have beautiful lore work
What if we don't have the opposite of a chibi mask because it's dangerous for our bodies to get too big for our light? Spells can counter this by providing supplemental light
A bigger stone plus holy land (there’s no gif for it, so I used sKids ascending as light into the sky as a representation of the transcending to Orbit
Interesting theory Null
maybe it's the same thing that happened with the eden diamond
bigger boddy = easier corruption
Do you think that’s why narrator chose small children bodies to task the light giving ?
I don't think they had the option to choose between us and something else
at least kids cant be evil normally or understand committing evil on a worldwide or political scale
They’ve never seen the good son, Pale
it was either crowkids or eternal darkness
lmao crowkids going full haughty like stealing shiny things (cotls)
it would be chaos
it is what we do
ya i think we’re crowkids enough
~ can fly
~ is noisy
~ walk in groups
~ steal shiny things
is this a crow or skykids?
you will never know
can they remember faces...
(i love duality of man passed onto skykids. never got enough of this idea. “let’s repent our sins and prank each other at the same time”)
XDDDD
We are nothing but noisy gremlins
flying noisy gremling
Did someone mention crow kids!!
Aahh I always thought of the concept of a bad sky child
crow kids remembering ancestors’ faces and pecks at forest mama for snatching their light
stealing their candles and mimicking their gestures
i need to ask if the language in the launch songs is the same as the one in live
@lethal stump I think they're not but it's good if we could get dev's confirmation
lmao imagine one of them perching on her shoulder and picks at her hair (gently) and she ofc chides them for it
Exhausted soldier: falls
Kid: Candol?
Exhausted soldier: feels better, tries to keep going
Kid: follows
Exausted soldier: collapses
Kid: collapses
Soldier: oh no kid are you ok?
Kid: I bring you to elder now.
Soldier: ??? I mean thank you but ???
Kid: Candol?
Soldier: Um... Ok? Uh... I have a spell...
Kid: Heart?
Soldier: Uhh... Well I guess I could tell you about stuff while you're here... And you're copying me again. Do you know what war is?
Kid: Candol?
Soldier: Oh Megan you don't, you're a precious innocent baby what are you doing out here?!
Mochi, even if they aren’t, i’ll probably transcribe anyways. Wouldn’t hurt :p
**candol? **
yeah, if it's in a different language then it could be the key to translate the songs we have now
null this is my new favorite hc
i was extremely confused for receiving an emote of jumping down and holding one’s face in their hands, in exchange for a solider wounded and collapsing
even more confused for receiving an emote of fainting when it’s actually a person being buried
that sounds like bug to me
I haven't compared the whole songs yet but the lyrics of "The Light Beyond (Launch Edition)" also sound different from this version on YouTube, though these sound like in the same language https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tonp1tVpeeU&feature=youtu.be&t=325
I came here to ask someone to compare them
the refugee is protectig herself from a collapsing obelisc, don't know if you people ever noticed that
yes, they sound like different lyrics but the same language
now just what are they saying 
There were 2 rebellions
that is a mistery for detective Bricky solve!
2 civil wars
oh i cant do it alone, i need y’all to help !
then I'd say the lyrics could be improvisation by the singer and wasn't in a language
thats very likely
I am biology crew lore worker
apparently the line « but darkness blinds so i cast them away » was a placeholder
what does that mean?
it has no bearing on lore, it was just there until they made a good story for the opening I think
Is there any confirmation on there being two rebellions/civil wars ?
no, Oz, there is not
Question...
there is almost no confirmation on a war at all, aside from what we see in game and in concepts
there is not even a confirmation for being a civil war or a rebellion
What was built first....valley or wasteland ?
it’s up to you, Oz
there is literally confirmation on almost nothing lore related as far as i’ve seen from stalking this channel
yep ! you got it
@lethal stump , what is LA
yeah because we don't have a lot of confirmed lore stuff (oops i read the message wrong sorry)
Light Awaits
oh ok
i was wondering why you mentioned los angeles bricko LOL
Is it logical to assume that wasteland was built and abandoned/degraded before valley was built ?
personally, no, i don’t believe that’s the case
Anyone else have a different theory about wasteland being built before or during the building of valley?
i believe the whole kingdom was under constant change, especially with an industrial and technological revolution, that would lead to different kinds of buildings being made and needed. so, as things change, the kingdom would have changed as well
there’s not necessarily any proof of this happening, I just think that by extrapolating the things i’ve learnt about the development of civilizations, this is how it might’ve gone
What does l4 feint look like?
I propose the theory that IF valley with less industrial advancements than Wasteland was created before or during the creation of wasteland....then the games/statues in Valley could have either represented civil infighting and the king’s victory or....predicted the battle to come that left wasteland in ruins?
that’s an interesting observation
be back later people! 
Krill out!
bye blue !
Later blue
see ya bluee
So... IF valley was created first or during.... then... there were two battles
if it was a war, i’d reckon there was more than just two
I meant 2 “defining” battles.
One does not build a city and games over a battle that did not win a significant and decisive confrontation, right? Lol
That would be prematurely celebrating
But then again, maybe they did
why do you think the capital of the kingdom was made only because of the war ?
Does anyone know why the eye of eden is called the eye of eden ?
hm. well it looks like the eye of a hurricane in concept maps, maybe that has something to do with it, Rose
Because concept art says it was in honor of prince’s victory in battle and built to crown him king
really ? where ?
(Rummaging through concept art)
Brb finding it
alright
What i miss?
@hushed steeplezhao.com
So basically the valley elders do mock battles to honor the victories
ahh
in that concept it was a war against dark creatures, in this one it seems to be a civil war...two very different things...so keep that in mind
not saying you’re wrong
“invulnerability, romance”… as someone who likes a quieter life im outta this league
romance
- cackles in aromantic *
“the twins used to lead ceremonial spectacle” can they even appear materially? or do the ppl make sacrifices or light torches representing them to aid their presence
they appear materially at night remember
i hope an amphitheater gets added, that would be great for lore
yeah but thats to us. what about mortals
we have the colosseum but it ain’t the same
Isn’t the end of the race an amphitheater?
aren’t all the mortals dead
Can you explain the difference, Bricky?
amphithéâtre: semi circle, usually built into the ground/into a wall
colosseum: full circle, built up in the middle of a city
don’t mind the accents, french keyboard
I think it Is safe to assume since they mention an amphitheater and not a colosseum... that is supposed to be the end of the race.... that since we have a colosseum that end the race in game that the concept was similar or only changed as much as the difference between a colosseum and amphitheater for theory crafting purposes ?
I don’t know if the differences between the two are drastic or not
additionally, amphithéâtres tend to be where performances happen. plays, stuff like that
colosseums are usually sporting events like gladiator fights
great eden why is my keyboard trying to get me warned ?
So since they changed from play/acting to gladiatorial competitive type of displays.... that it only furthers the idea that it was about battle/confrontation ?
Damn I have no idea what’s happening but it looks cool
perhaps
but i don’t see why the capital wouldn’t exist by the time of a civil war
Perhaps the civil war wasn’t a civil war then. Perhaps it was tribe vs tribe. Ideology vs ideology from 2 separate civilizations ?
I have no idea what this is about but the idea of wars between tribes would seem more accurate going with the common theme of Sky
but, wouldnt a war like that still have the pretense of some kind of civilization on the sky kingdom’s part ?
I suppose
It could have been a unification war ? Moving “mud huts” to “brick huts” type of progression ?
Example....
that’s...is that a thing ?
It can be - especially if you are kicking people out of their homes to build the new ones
The Empire ? What empire ?
The prince leads his people. And another person leads their people (or there is no “defined” leader, and the prince goes around fighting against those who oppose his claim to rule over ALL the people) he then crowns himself king after he has destroyed all opponents to his “throne” or right to rule
that’s a possibility. who do you think the other person was, or have you not thought that far ?
it would make most sense to be wasteland elder, we see him using a different shield than the « royal » one (diamond)
A military force
Usually the winners of battles dictate the history, and unfortunately some civilizations are wiped from the history books due to the cruel winner’s burning their entire civilizations to the ground, writing them out of history. It’s probable that there was an opposing side but all mention (save for the valley games) have been stifled by the prince turned king
at least, that’s how i see it
That’s an awesome theory!
The wasteland is indeed a wasteland but why is a good question?
probably because of heavy industrialization
So if valley was made before wasteland industrialization would that point to a second battle that ended (helped to end) their civilizations ?
hasn’t it been confirmed that power diamonds had a play in the downfall of the kingdom ? how would a battle end the civilizations related to that ?
A celebration at valley (devoid of industrialization) of the king’s victory... and then wasteland (industrial upgrade to civilization) having a battle field that no one bothered (or was left to) clean up ?
I don't know that the fighting ever got past the wasteland
eden has flags and weapons, i’m betting it did
Oh no, I'm thinking inside to out war
also it’s mentioned in the concepts that forest was the « first battle » however this is somewhat old, maybe not canon anymore
Not outside to in
wdym ?
Aleph and Tsadi fought, with Lamed doing what they could to not get their people involved
I just can’t figure out why the weapons and shields are left on the battlefield at wasteland and then they would upgrade to massive industrialization ... or is there a different proposal to the timeline of the building of each location ?
we have a moff, use the realm names
Just a thought but maybe wasteland is a finale front for keeping the Vault safe?
i reckon the industrialization happened first, and then the people revolted after poor treatment in the factories and the destruction of their livelihoods in wasteland
after the war...wasteland became a ghost town. literally
Yeah
King and Wasteland fought, with Vault doing what they could to not get their people involved. In the end the battle left both sides in poor position to reach Valley for support, refuge, or conquest
So then there has to be two major battles
Once celebrated by valley and one that made ghost towns in wasteland
@short owl that’s what I think
i have a civil war theory...but idk if it’s apolitical enough
oh the struggles of being not political in war
... This is about a kingdom.
yes i know
Ktjn “all theory’s welcome”
Go for it Bricky I’m all ears
How do you AVOID politics when talking about the politics of a kingdom?
Land grab? And political dispute?
but my headcanon draws some parallels to real life events
I think that’s the best theory crafting as the creators devs had to use some real world experiences to craft this world (no matter how small/vague)
maybe once i write it up...you’ll see what i mean
Yes
Bricky... write it up.... here lol
(Bricky drops teaser trailer 1 year before movie comes out in theaters)
How dare you !
Eh?
?

Hey guys, what's the tipic
what are you guys talking about ?
I don’t know??!!
what trailer ? what movie ?
Like a little bit of your theory
Theory?
But then you make us wait for a long time before the whole thing comes out
ohh
I wouldn’t mind 
my theories change almost every day
(Explanation of my comment is that Bricky proposing a theory idea but only telling us it’s related to real world event but NOT giving us the details because it’s complex and will provide later when finished feels like....when a great movie trailer comes out/drops and yet the movie won’t come out for like a while other year and you’re waiting impatiently for this great movie idea to be in theaters)
Oh
Oliver you did in one sentence what I couldn’t do in 17 paragraphs
😂
Haha
Yes
seeya raspberry
The game statues/Murals... depict equals against each other...
Concept art says in honor of prince victory, crowned king....
are there.... gasp two princes? Or.... prince vs princess?
Twins, best of friends, worst of enemies
Jealous and MURDERED!
I thought that was more about the twins and two teams competing in the races
cain and abel vibes
Twins, best of friends, worst of enemies
@static spoke I’m a twin irl and my bro is exactly this to me all my life

Well if it was depicting two opposing sides I could see it having two equal looking mascots, but wouldn’t the king (the victor) want to display how his opponent was a lesser?
Most villains do want to do that
Someone insert propaganda king meme
exactly
i think the statues just represent the twins and their competitiveness. i don’t think it relates to the king or his victories
So maybe the princess was murdered by prince Aleph and erased from history books
I know, but I’m following this for a theory crafting idea
🤔
I’m dubbing this crackpot theory as the “Aleph v Bet” theory
Bet in Hebrew is the B to the Aleph’s A, so I’m dubbing the “princess” depicted by the female twin, as “Bet” since prince king = Aleph
So maybe Bet was opposed to industrialization and was more like Megabird all about the naturally naturalisticly natural process of things.
naturally naturalistically natural

Harmony of ancestor and creatures/nature vs
Industrialization and subjugation of the creatures/nature to bend to the will of the ancestors
(O_O) ....gasp
Maybe rebellion was in honor / remembrance of Princess Bet’s ideologies ?!
?
Please ask away Oliver, I don’t have this planned out. Just crack potting
Ok, what were her ideologies?
Harmony of ancestor and creatures/nature
🤦♂️ should have seen that one coming
I think the twins died first. All of the elders grew up together

Maybe she was opposed to the over use of power diamonds as it set the balance off from using/abusing creatures who original (according to concept art) “gave” the ancestors light...
Not the twins!
All the other elders seemd to have died at the same age except for two
You monster, rose
“The elder elder”
Idk what else to call him 🤷🏻♀️
The twins 
Lmao
Dawn elder, oldest elder, old man elder, but I love “elder elder” lol!
As Bricky can tell you “naturally naturalistic nature”
Lol
I saw that
Anyways we know there was a war at some point and the vault wanted nothing with it but got pulled in anyways but going off of previous theories above me the valley was before waste and vault
Or pre industrial waste at least
I’d argue valley has older ruins based off of the architecture
So my friend took me to the ||office|| a few minutes ago and we ended up hanging around the rooftop and play around with the cannon. He suddenly wondered if the cannon means something, since he believes that TGC has a thought process for every realm and finds it odd why would they choose a cannonball. Can anyone give their perspective or theory?
And since going off of the assumption that people remain the age they do when they died the twins must’ve died first
Not the twins!
I’m looking for those ruined Rose!
It's confirmed that elders don't age, so luckily that's one elder sads I don't need to consider. However for the cannon... Noncannon cannon is funny
Kinda mad I didn't think of it sooner though :skygrouch:
The ruins are the blue plaza gazebo structures with faded paint and crumbling rock
The land race? Sorry Rose I don’t know off hand all the names / locations yet
Yeah
You know where the twin’s second palace is where you can visit em ?
Around that area
And even in the background as you go down the first hill in balky
Long live the twins
I thought I knew the oobs, but I’m still confused
At work so I have to wait hours to explore in game. But we must find Princess Bet!
#FindPrincessBet
Off topic: I like going OOB.
I 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th that sentiment Oli
(....ver, if you’re not comfortable with me calling you Oli)
Oli is fine

I was crafting a diamond hierarchy theory a year ago but it fell to the way side, and oobz was my main source of theory crafting on that idea
Lol if you want you can pick it up. I can’t make headway on it. But the basics are that each elder has a number of diamonds on their “clothes” as the devs implied we should call them
Basically the number or arrangement of diamonds could represent title or ranks among them
Based off of very small evidence (the twins have the fewest amount of diamonds on their outfit than the other elders)
Well, they look to be the youngest Elders
They also seem to be a bit preocupied with altetnative status metrics

They be busy on the game field rather than say, managing production of food or technology
Their job seems to be less....technically or spiritually driven
They’re like escapism based... diversion...distraction...
Well, if they are the youngest Elders, they probably still have energy and are like kids. They don’t really want to work, instead they want to play.
Twin cutscene helps me think about Princess Bet theory.
~~ i always headcanoned them as being astronomers too given the armillary spheres~~
The male twin steals the light from female twin, and then knocks it away, taking charge
Aleph beating Bet
Which in my opinion, I feel like the girl twin in the weaker one. But I know many strong females. Sooooooooo...I feel like it needs to be more equal.
Because twins are more often than not, the same
I don’t think it represents she is weaker (if I’m trying to make the argument for the Aleph / Bet ... prince /Princess theory) I think it represents that she lost the war, her people, not femininity losing to masculinity.
I think they WERE equals
I suppose
His people were probably more...underhanded? Or had some technological advantage.
And in the beginning, they were in sync
Like a sucker punch basically
Representing that they were on the same side. Potentially.
Yesssss keep it coming
ngl i don’t think the twins have a gender. they sexually identify as chaos
(O_O) ....gasp
Could game intro narrator be Princess Bet, the second half of prince Aleph who fell to darkness corruption?
Maybe what happened was less of a one twin stronger than the other and more of a one twin's ability was to absorb the other? This leans on old darkstone stuff
The sliding race is comparatively more worn down
Makes sense - people keep sliding over it
Idk if that helps but there’s definitely a power imbalance
There's part of the flying race that's sploded
No I mean the structure before you enter the race is more worn down
The flying race has more damaged buildings in front of it though... Maybe it's "more use" vs "more dangerous use"?
Not everyone can fly, even with tools, so flight races would be more rare
i don’t think they were always races, ngl
the sliding race seems to have broken/worn down residential buildings, as does the flying race
i think the flying race could have been a boat highway of sorts to get through the city
So you know how we seem locked into but a single day/week in the game?
What happens the day after?
Is the world just... Dead?
guess we’ll have to find out
inb4 sky series takes place in the span of a week 
If there are spirits stored in the vault... What happens to them?!
Are they just trappes in a crumbling world?
Not even able to take form and join us out?
Can ancestors with capes fly?
So if it was a race in valley then That was all on foot?
That doesn’t seem reasonable
the flying race might not have actually been a race, and the sliding race would still be possible even if they couldn’t fly
snowboarding
But where do faux swords/paddles come into play? Like a giant city sized hockey game?
probably a hockey type game, yeah
Omg I want that in game now ! For our sKids!
i think we’re free to make up the sports they might’ve played
4 v 4
(Server holds 8)
This implies that there was at least paddles and a ball/light ? Used during “a” game
Okay... you’re “Crazy but”
Okay weird idea but what if the point of the game was to get the opponent to hit the ball?
Lol antagonist’s dream game
these look way too similar
the pattern the lanterns move in
god I hate my wifi
so long to just post two images 
What is an armillary ?
it's a solar system model
oh i said that yesterday raf :0
in fact, I've seen the lanterns position themselves in the exact same way as the armillary
Is the world just... Dead?
so maybe when eden blew up the force was strong enough to force their planet out of orbit, ruining it's day/night cycle
although that would imply that home is somewhere entirely different as it still has a day/night cycle
as far as eden resetting my headcannon is that when statues resetting is actually more skykids getting stuck as statues that you gotta save
Eden reset means that kids got stuck as statues along the way actually makes a bit of sense
Probably not what it acually is but it is a possibility so
everything is a possibility
There is little to nothing confirmed so we take all ideas we can
Including the possibility it could all just be game mechanics, not even lore related 
Everything except for that
thats cursèd, prism
Sorry I should’ve phrased it better, I was referring to things like eden reset and stuck time
Game mechanics what that
Game mechanics are a mechanism to serve lore
the lore is stored in the game
Have we found Bet yet?
I come back for my lunch break and there’s no headway on #findBet
Understood
yes you can
(O_O).... gasp
That’s gonna come in handy
Wait what do you mean by trapped in the same week? Also, I’m back
Wb Oli
Thank you
We were discussing spears being specifically designed to be launched.
This was like a week ago.
spears are powered by light
So you know how we seem locked into but a single day/week in the game?
@short owl
What does this mean? And I didn’t feel like I’ve been trapped in the same week.
they probably go extra nyoom when they have power
Bones are the worst
wasteland elder's mask is modelled after a whale
Auntie worrier looks to be running away
I think that the creatures of light attacked the spirits after they made the Eden diamond
Aight so history time for architecture and cultural influences. Previously I mentioned my observations on that valley seemed to be more ruined compared to the other cities. Thus my idea was that valley was older. This can also tie with the many cultures who have twins as starters of their civilizations or head gods in their myths.
Important notes
The yellowish orange spikes, the window design and the disrepair of the building’s bridge
y'know, I wonder
what's underneath the clouds in citadel?
there's clearly more buildings there than we see
Assuming that forest and Prairie were results from the fleeing of vault and waste land , we can see the cultural influence of these spikes in the buildings and the built of bridges and designs of windows
so you're saying that the realms actually go in reverse?
hmm
that's an interesting theory
yeah the door designs are different
praire and forest have the king's emblem on their doors
valley, isle and wasteland have a regular diamond design
The diamond doors I think evolved
The grandous ones like the ones at the end of the forest temple resemble the broken doors in waste
But the more simpler openingcame from the invention of the temple door being able to be opened like that
also remember how originally there were constellation gates in front of the temples
I wonder why
it's almost as if the elders put them up to keep people out
Probably to keep the darkness out or contained
Are constellation gates canon?
Seems kinda odd cus then if constellation gates were canon and works the same, then ancestors would need to relive dead spirits of their own clan
From the intro cutscene though, if we take it literally, the murals show the different realms popping up at the same time
I think the constellation gates are a game mechanic
I think so too
Especially since TGC keeps taking them out
mb it happened after the civilization died out
I think they were originally canon but now they've been removed
(reminds me of that hk lore tablet “none can enter. none can leave.”)
actually, there was originally supposed to be a constellation gate before the sanctuary islands but it got removed due to popular request
Imagine needing to land on an island just to light the gate
How is that lore?
Off topic
Hmm
And ruined
Old age?
it's the very end of the civilization
it's on its last legs, with only refugees
The lore could also go like that
what's the definition of pilgrim again
I mean theres a pilgrim and a refugee in the same realm
Someone who goes to another place, usually seeking asylum of some sort
Someone that travels to foreign, usually holy lands of sorts
Implying that the temple is holy?
Or that it grants asylum
temples were usually repurposed as homes for the homeless during wars
Can picture him sitting at a couch telling old tales of his
Sarcasm?
No
Mmmm
did we figure out who the second hero is
He’s scary in my opinion
wasteland elder music
we think its us
a tale of two heroes or smth
Why heroes tho
it’s just called « Two Heroes »
Oh is it the new stuff that came out?
yes
Havent seen em yet
cause u fly
there's gotta be a deeper meaning
Could be self explanatory
TGC doesn't stay on surface level details
Welp it could be anything
Prolly look at eden for this
Try and find connections, all i know is it represents acceptance of death
And it has alot of stoned shiny bois
stoned ?
oh actually
most people skip the orbit cutscenes but the statues actually BECOME stars
so they're not skykids
skykids are always reborn
Stars don’t have capes
Theyre king's
but they literally go into megan 
My headcanon is, u recollect all the king's imprints, distribute them to the statues that could possibly be skids with the wings, and ascend
But not all stars could be saved since theres only 63 statues
So king could never be complete again
my theory is that there's canonically only one skid, and inside us we have a fragment of the king and the CoL
we collect fragments of the CoL, the winged light, and use it to ascend spirits and reconnect them with the light
Spirits?
ascended candles
Ac are canon?
Wait are candles as ancestor's currency canon?
That would be goofy lul
Or do we?
Ive requested for skid with teeth but it never came so i know that
Yum yum wax
the cosmetics are actually solid light
Solid wat
how else would a dead person give you an ikea table
Solid light... is something i never thought would be said
Its a new thing for me
My headcanon on the otherhand, is where cosmetics arent canon
But the moth hair is a default hair that cant be found in any other spirit so thats kinda hard to find an answer to
Lets just say its light wigs


All i can think of is that every cosmetics we get from spirits are their actual imprints
And spirits can be dmged by the same things skids can get dmged from except ofcourse, bonking
b o n k
B a n g
So that explains why when we run out of light, we also lose the spirit's imprints on us as cosmetics
It can even be krilled but krills cant detect it
It just get dmged when its touched by le krill
Rose....did you find Princess Bet’s architecture ?
Long Live the Twins
Idk if I did....
Did I???
What if princess bet is the stone that holds the light?
Oh my goodness rose I love you rn
That’s an awesome idea
She inadvertently helps guide your way
Eden storm
That statue eerily looks like something I’ve seen before
Rose’ picture gave me an idea
There’s only 5 armadillos in that picture
And the center one... is actually the main one, the king’s solar system/constellation
So there’s really only 4 armadillos
Dawn elders constellation
Prairie elder’s constellation
Hidden Forest elder’s constellation
And Valley Elder’s constellation....
That Area is missing both the wasteland elder’s and Vault Ekder’s armadillos/constellations
This could imply heavily that they were not built yet and/or they were not honored at that time.
Orrrrrrrrr.......
...armadillos?
It could represent the hidden forest, valley, wasteland and vault elder’s constellations, and purposefully ignore the dawn and prairie elder’s constellation
Yeah, the golden round thingies that represent the solar system
??? why
In rose’s picture.
armillary spheres ?
ah
That’s the one
I could not figure out the connection between the animal and the symbol
They can both be round?
kinda?
feels like a bit of a stretch, if there’s only 5 armillary spheres, i think that kinda makes it clear we can’t draw a connection between the amount and the elders
if there was, say, 6 or 7 then maybe
but 5 is
eh
Only 4 arm....those things, 4 constellations. Well 5 if you include the center huge one
there are
7 constellations (counting the eden constellation)
four arms on what
Minus 5 circles from this image and there are 2 left
the circle things in the murals?
4 armillary spheres not counting the one in the middle
...I see 7 total?
six in a half circle?
am I missing something
what is this 4 you are talking about
oh, you're saying the circles in the murals are similar to the spheres in Valley?
I kind of think this picture of the Wasteland temple area has the same ground circles that the spheres spin over
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/738505334108455025
An armarillio is a representation of a solar system. There are 5 (4 smaller ones plus the gigantic center one) which might represent the constellation of the elders but it is missing 2. Either wasteland/vault because they haven’t been built yet, or the dawn/prairie signifying a separation from that older civilization? Maybe?
or it doesn’t represent the constellations at all
Wait say that again wren?
say what again
I don't think the spheres correspond to the constellations
they're significant, but may not be connected that way
But you said it represents solar systems ... what else would it represent ?
Bricky that is(Bricky explained what it represented, wren I’d like to hear your ideas as well, clarifying)
Open to ideas here
Feed me!

Okay uh... hello- first time speaking in dis channel ,w, lll
In da Golden Wasteland around the Battlefield.
I found dis a bit unsure that I see dis (yep- not even I don’t know what it’s called- lamps?
)
I’m not sure if I’m correct on dis but dis lamp haz dem faint stripes.
And while the Forest or the some other lamps founded are different, box shape and/or with no lines.
,w,
Armillary sphears are navigational tools, used to help someone position themselves in relation to the sky and the horizon. It is also called a Spherical Astrolabe.
Hi, Cherry! Welcome to the channel!
Welcome cherry!!

In my opinion, the golden stripes in Golden Wasteland Lantern is probably because the people there loved to put gold everywhere
they were gold addicts
if it is made of stone and does not move, they put gold on
so it is shiny
they were ostentatious people
But nice catch! I hadn't noticed it before, and I spend most of my days in GW
or if it does move, they put gold on it
- glances at armillary spheres *
Armillary sphears were created by the twins to mock the Wasteland Elder mania of putting gold on idle things
almos as a bet
Me: ...wait- dis lamp also have different colors on some part... 𝘋𝘪𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘵𝘦𝘹𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘦?
where is this lantern? I want to check it out
almos as a bet
@mortal viper as in....Princess Bet?
no oz
In da Golden Wasteland around the Battlefield.
oh, ok! have to pay more attention to the texts 
- pat @mortal viper *

So why would they want to know where the horizon is ?
I know zilch about astrology/astronomy
Is it like a solstice type of thing?
oz they were part astronomers
since their curlture is related to the stars they studied the stars
thus the armillary spheres
they wanted to know their place
in the universe
it could also help them navigate the skys
Do you believe the arma thingies are just mundane and not significant to established iconography of Sky game?
i dont believe their mundane, theyre rather important, but not to the iconography of the game
theyre*
Feels like a missed opportunity to build something with those graphics and game physics and have it closely related to astronomy but not at all related to the astronomy that tells a bit of the story.
A good amount of time was spent on crafting and designing it.
have you consisdered the idea that prarie and forest wernt a thing yet?
when it was built
h
how would that work
they’re integral to the power diamond production line
How so?
i think the first diamond production lines were centered in waste
light is harvested in prairie
darkstone is mined in forest
(Rose; From concept art it seems that prairie and forest were already designed before/during)
awww i just noticed the little sleeping ayin in that concept 
So why would they want to know where the horizon is ?
@compact olive it is not about finding the horizon, it is about measuring distances based on the position of important stars in the sky in relation to the horizon. It was used a lot during the great navigations. It mesures the angle of a star, you and the horizon line and with that you are able to calculate distances if I am not mistaken.
Old versions of it, yes
Oof
Yeah I didn’t copy Forest, was using these for personal headcanon. But if you go to tomzhao.com you can see the rest even wasteland etc.
And @bronze meadow, I found the lanterns and I think the design diference is really just a cultural expression of GW opulence
the cencept story doesnt always make it to the end product.
so much old lore
Hello, check the pins
Oo
The site is there somewhere
And @bronze meadow, I found the lanterns and I think the design diference is really just a cultural expression of GW opulence
But of course you can make your own theories if you want
So much to learn ,w,
I know Cherry! I had to learn about armadillos and astronomy and just a whole lot of things
But it’s fun!
armillary spheres
I dont think the website was pinned
it is
i checked pins shinanagains so many times
I guess there are still surprses
Thankz 
I’m probably not gonna come again ,_, lll
Unless I’m kinda feeling a bit okay sending out mah theories. 
Are you kidding me Cherry! They even accept some of my crazy crack pot theories
You’re always welcomed here!
Even Krills turning into a carrot?
Would you eat that?
,w, nuuuuuu-
And,
ah yes- a theory of how in the world krills are just that flexible
Lol makes it easier to bite/scratch your tummy/neck
Cheery’s picture of the flexible krill looks a lot like the spine at the ship wren
I do gotta say, krills sure do twist 180° when they finally give up on finding you 

@bronze meadow 80% of what happens in here is fueled by nonsense. If you got a theory, specially one that's off the walls, pls do share. I love good crack theories especially
ovo

Hewwo Ktjn 
henlo 
good! It's a writing day, so busybusy.
Hmm... I wonder if Sky kids experience the same thought processing and emotions as humans (or spirits!) do... since they have to learn the emotes from spirits
perhaps, cherry 
Essentially yeah, all the fun technical stuff.
@bronze meadow did u draw that uwu
Y e z
Woaaaaah~ 
It's cute! 
Amazingggg
that's an amazing theory.
I get notice by top leaders, me is happy-sad 
@bronze meadow I like the simple little extra detail of the lore-discussion-spoilers being turned around 
Not many people would think of that
:3c
Ktjn, i have a question if you’re still here, if you’re okay with answering
it’s alright if you don’t know the answer, i’m just wondering if you do
So since I am having an extistential crisis, here's why it is MORE like a spine: The cape seems capable of independent movement, suggesting some form of coordination going on. The back of the cape might also serve to cary signals across the cape to allow coordinated movement?
:0
in the OST, theres old songs from prelaunch beta that have lyrics in them. I know the current live song lyrics are in an actual conlang, but what about those prelaunch songs ? im guessing they’re placeholders but i just wanna make sure
Do Skykids have bones?
if we do, they’re rather strong !
...what if some of the masks were bones and then glued and covered up by some sort of material to dry and don’t look... threatening .w.
There may have been revisions to the vocals between the original recording and the version with aurora, but I honestly don't know.
ok, thank you for your answer ktjn !
Are you kidding me Cherry! They even accept some of my crazy crack pot theories
@compact olive
As soon as I saw that, I immediately make that theory, props to u Oz
.w.
Honestly this is my favorite channel because of how nice people are
I've never seen anyone be down on someone else for their theories
Everything is creative and not super chaotic (generally) and it's all just... 
uwu
go ahead, no need to ask permission 
All eden theories are welcome, the more the merrier since we have almost no idea what it is
D:
Lemme try again ;-; let’s hope I remember what I type
BUT THE SUSPENCE IS KILLING ME SMOL
EEeEee
Oki...
My question: Wait- where and how are these blue crystal on these ded children.
My theory: Maybe a slow evolution in order to keep the presence and maybe trying to prepare itself for another storm rage (like when Eden’s condition increases like around... 50-75 years?)
Wait you mean
The kids may not be dead O.O
Maybe...
Woah 
But... This means...
We abandoned them 
Me: * trying to send the photos *
Discord: oop? What’s this? Aaand it’s gone :).
But... This means...
We abandoned them
@short owl
Ah yes, abandoned, but it’ll be worth it not to drag them ;T
Maybe they could be in another generation if we sky children learned how to break the blue crystals without damaging the stone and... maybe recovery would work
I WOULD ABSOLUTELY DRAG BLUE CRYSTAL BABY THROUGH THEY DESERVE BETTER THAN THIS
Aren’t they like, beta eden easter eggs or something?
i don’t believe so ? but they might be
yeah they're beta eden easter eggs, in eden as you were dying you'd have blue crystals coming out of you i think
not confirmed but i think jay said it
but there are statues before stormlock without the blue crystals that disintegrate when you go near them 
don’t remind me of them or I will cry
U might actually find a clip on YouTube if u search up sky light awaits
@mortal viper
Me hugz u?
your art is cute, Cherry, i think it’ll do better in #sky-fanart-sketches-and-art-chat or #completed-sky-fanart-and-creations !
;w; oh—
Oki-
ahh i found it
what if the crystals turn blue because it was feeding on the light the kid had so now its full but red rocks are hungry so they’re red
Also the reason why red crystals take ur light energy
Like the diamond in forest turn blue when someone sticks their flame in it
Oo
y'all is there any lore behind why the krills sound like machines when they fly past you or is that just me/just game design
Flexible machine-sound krills
ovo
krills go brrr
literally
Idk, if we’re to merge the theory of: what if like crabs the larvae of the krill?.
In my theory, you know what a crab sounds like when it’s attacking/chasing?
I think it’s a deeper version of it when a krill attacks.
But from their normal sound when a krill passes by... I’m not sure ,_,
If crabs are krill larve, then the difference can be explained easily. Crabs have not developed the bits of their body that let them fly, thus causing them to make different sounds.
if crabs were krill larvae, why can they be found in areas where krill aren't around?
three crabs in a krill trenchcoat
yes!
i just imagined a bunch of crabs making up the shape of a krill
form voltron
what if krills are just a giant mech suit for crabs 

who gets to be the eye though
eye of eden (the diamond)
everyone wants to be the eye so they take turns
the council of crab...
Hey I wonder if the structures on the ground in forest fell from the trees
Don't have a lot to go off but it'd be neat and it's like the only ones we do see still standing usually have the children of light in them
Were they trying to be spoiler conscious?
yep most likely
we all wanted eden
but the characters/creatures/elders concept art is great too
K i n g
old Eden concepts: a daily reminder
i literally look at these every day ....
Well, in the present eden, the corrupt king is removed?
he exists in the king propaganda thats everywhere
Chilling with the megabirb
he's very important to the current lore
and we carry on his propaganda to future generations
He’s so important that there’s no proof of his existence
yes there is, theres statues of him everywhere
What proves theese statues represents him? Wich statues are you talking about
the statues in wasteland look exactly like the king statues in the concepts
Photo please?
hol up
Anyway does it makes sense to say there’s two species of birbs
Because the ones making trails are small, and makes... well... some ordinary birb noises
And thoses are bi.... where’s the head?
Wait is that even a birb
maybe manta?
So there’s my other question, wich concerns how many subspecies of mantas there are
2 or 3?
Johnny posted the pics earlier, but here’s the concept art i’m referencing
imhi so i can't find the concept art so take the meme i made with the concept art of king
Hmmm so the king is a cyclop?
i mean
dépends on your interpretation
Probably yes:...
personally i think he’s a mech for the prince but that’s a different story
u heard me
king is a mech suit
like i said, depends on your interpretation
I see one eye and apparently it’s a suit
past timeline mentioned “his crown” trapped the king at last, so the star in head is the king’s crown?
could be
we don’t know
So there’s my other question, wich concerns how many subspecies of mantas there are
@wide root I think those are just baby mantas
And how would he see
I don’t see any cameras
This would also makes sense if they’re babies
maybe the king wore mask, too?😂😂
But if they came from the water maybe mantas are like frogs
maybe the king wore mask, too?😂😂
@willow shoal tell me how he can see in this thing if there’s no holes or cameras
idk
So it doesn’t really makes sense to be the king if it has no eyes
tbfair sky biology isn't exactly logical to the context of irl
in the village of prairie, we activate 3 bells and then summon the big mantas
Yes my parents told me so
I’m completely overwhelmed
I conclude that mantas might be amphibians
What did I missed?
All
manta could become the whale at last?
Maybe mantas can live underwater and land too 
I conclude that mantas might be amphibians
also, how the simple manta changed into cosmic one in vault?
That was spirit manta
Cuz there's a skeleton of manta at vault
Maybe the cosmic one is an aberration mutated genetically
With proper genetics they could have muted them (OGMs maybe)
I know that in real life there’s deep sea fishes that are transcluscid... in sky there’s a Huge sea and per se who knows what lives deeply in it
well, an official editor says the simple one absorbed too much light and power so became the cosmic in vault
So it’s a person that became a manta
so do capes turn into manta wings eventually
Or a manta radiated
if ppl become mantas
Maybe they simply radiated some random mantas with a laser
the feet becomes the tail n the cape is the wings
Skykid are entirely different being.. we are the descendants
We are.... things
And we are probably aren’t made of flesh otherwise we won’t be able to slide on rocks
unless we are super tough
-_-
lol
We are not mantas.
timeline says all things comes from the Megabird, all are part of it
And megabirb came from.... megabirb???
@lilac sand skykid are descendants of children of light and the dark version child of light..
Wait let me search for a pic
There’s no dark version
honestly i havent kept up with the lore gimme pls
Jenova Chen said at first we are the Children of Shadow
honestly i havent kept up with the lore gimme pls
@lilac sand arguing about the same stuff since forever: the king and megabirb and childs of lights
Nothin else!
lol
But we are still children in game
No for real?!!
No dip
They don’t exist as we don’t see them