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well you have to collect butterflies and such, they’re used to make light for power diamonds
jay made this joke a bit back
prairie: aww look at those butterflies !
forest: aww look at those power sources !
prairie: what
forest: what
that's why there's so many in prairie but so little in wasteland
there’s probably few in wasteland cause that’s where they’re crushed for light
whereas in prairie they’re farmed and bred, so of course there’ll be many there
forest has a lot too
it does
im not sure why that is yet
The reason the non king elders are in charge is likely the fact they are older than everyone else in their industry, even just counting years on the job
and uh
they’re kinda gods to the spirits ?
yeah
Spirits have generations. Elders are stuck around. Of course they would build seniority in their fields
the only realms that have butterflies are isle, prairie and forest
why wouldn’t you put a god in charge, especially if 6 or 7 of them just came down from the sky one day and crash landed at your pier
the others have crabs
i imagine their fall was less than graceful, for comedy reasons
Cause they seem clueless as to what a crab is?
forest is the transition from butterfies to crabs
Crabboooss are frienddoooss
does valley have butterflies? I forget
i don’t think so
I know crabs are in the temple
There's one big blue butterfly when you play for 1st time
ohh right the coliseum butterfly
That's a spirit
no no see
I think...?
when you finish a race, a blue butterfly comes to recharge you
ah i still saw the butterfly sometimes but idk if it's still around
the only blue butterfly in the game
i wonder what it represents
death.
i did made this draft during my math class
Any thoughts or things i missed? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iob3_C9hfWZg2_ymzlIEurcRxVSnL7vbVtyiPePWy2w/edit?usp=sharing
Yes the layout sucks
ooo
looking 👌 so far 
ill read it when i finish this forest cr
It's Missing those cave murals?
i think it's just man-made structures
you should include the cave murals yeah
btw i think you can add the pillars right at the beginning too
they look like what used to be a gate/archway-thing
I'm focusing on the man made structures.
I'll probably include the cave murals
Thanks for the feedback!
Don't forget to add this
From
spirit
ah yes i feel like tgc now
The images and text look weird when viewed on mobile.
Maybe i should make a powerpoint or something
Don't you guys think that heat is the one that recharges our skykid and not the light?
We love fire right?
butterflies aren’t hot but they’re light and they recharge us
no, heat is just a byproduct of light
Couldn't find the butterfly video
The hot geyser that shoot us up on sanctuary island is hot and it recharges.. that why I think heat have something to do with it...
Or it just a gameplay thing...
i think its more because of the gameplay, yeah
being yeeted that high without any flaps left will make you go unlit
the age-old game mechanic or lore dilemma 
i'm a professional homespace light-loser
Oh well imma put down my detective glasses and try again next day...
you do love the free white cape huh
y e s
maybe the geysers recharge you because there's steam - water in gas-form, just like clouds ☁️
Y e s.
but then i guess there's the question of why clouds recharge you 😄
clouds reflect light ?
Clouds are clouds
They recharge us
Even the eden clouds recharge us
maybe
Never went flying in eden
But why rain want to kill me :(
Because rain ain't clouds and we only like clouds
Maybe it has something to do with temperature
eden clouds recharge you, it’s helpful for the speed run oob
I wont be a true valley boi until i speedrun eden.
the cold water thing kinda makes sense until you consider that our sky kids seemed perfectly happy skating around in ice water
Swimming in ice water too.
i can understand not liking rain but being fine with swimming in water, but the ice rink situation completely throws that analogy out the window 
So basically jellyfish juice?
Hmm but skykid was freezing in Eden tho...
yeah, i think it's more to do with something about the rain in hidden forest being impure
No they were turned to stone
we don’t freeze in eden
Anyone theorized this line?
this ain’t journey
@hushed steeple HMMMMMM
@hushed steeple hmmm
Well I missed the convo.. if it already has discussed
"Perished with time, the spirit watches the ruins with forgotten hope and promise"
What promise and to whom
dead cause it’s been a while
now that i think about it what even were the stories for the spirits
So...he just watch the bell and he want us to get the bell because he's lazy?
@gray bridge the only story we remember is the crying spirit.
I mean
We got it confirmed the people of sky do eat things
"promise" doesn't necessarily have to be a promise/oath to someone -- it can also be used in the context of "promising potential"
😔 on the outside i honk, on the inside i cri.
@kind bobcat yeah but for this season
the more i think about these spirits and elders the more they seem like somewhat bratty lazy people 
Because he can't fly and all the boats are destroyed
@hushed steeple he have the manta cape :(
Oh, simple.
Imagine matpat making a theory from this game ..
spirits can’t fly
All the spirits were on vacation, timid spirit has a crush on the questgiver, jelly hair is having jellyfish hopping courses.
Next line
Imagine matpat making a theory from this game ..
@mild lark
So who here’s gonna make the hour long video debunking it 
Srry for low quality pic
Soo....capes are useless for spirits
Rally spirit is a geyser maniac and grouchy spirit is too old for hikes.
i hear crush and already i am intrigued 
Make a theory .... A game theory
Look at the timid spirit. Look at them looking at the questgiver.
you dont just look at someone like that
M a y b e

the silent skykid do be like that
timid seemed like a teen to me so i never thought that—
assuming the modified sitting poses associated with each stance are also related to the spirit who gave the stance, the timid spirit's mental health actually concerns me 
She reads books everyday
Or with Hikemen
my friend told me the timid spirit is the one most like me in sky and i was concerned
Isle went overbudget with the magic murals so they just stacked stones on top of eachother.
HIKEMENHAJAJSH
HIKEMENHAJAJSH
@gray bridge
Ssshhh
Timid spirit this timid spirit that
When is grouch spirit and manta cape catching on 
Grouch spirit can just go on with his therapy session
Found a little good quality pic
M a y b e
The fish we usually find in ponds arent connected to the light though
They're just
fish
there’s no fish outside of home and office
Those are fishes btw
Mantabirb
Manta fishes 🐟
Ooh I haven't been here for so long
All I know is that I'm curious on new sky lore since we got sanctuary now 👍
"Lizard eagles"
Lizard eagle centipede shrimps
Hmm yes
Fun fact: Sky used to have spiders that are the opposite of crabs, but they got kicked out of concept because they were too scary
Spiders having multiple legs doesn't really mean anything tho
I mean, skykids have multiple legs XD
Skykids have two legs
I mean, skykids have multiple legs XD
@drowsy spoke yes they have
Two is multiple
They have 2 legs
Tsadi was a spider with no legs but a ton of arms at one point
Ah thank you @hushed steeple

Wasteland has always been wasteland though.
Just not as destroyed as it is.
Yes, something happened
Wasteland has always been wasteland though.
But it could be the Time wasn't always dask
There's the theory that all the worlds are connected
Judging by how much king statues there are
Wasteland used to be valley
And then the darkness spread so now it got krills and muck
Prairie is connected to forest, and then valley is connected to wasteland, wasteland is connected to vault and eden.
Yes, eden was a holy place before they put up the pipes
Hmm
I don't agree with the krill and the crab part
I'm part of the people that believe there was a crystal war thing
And darkness spread
Crabs and krills are just side effects
You know the crystal in No Return?
I'm the "elders screwed up big time" kind of guy.
The Eden crystal was made by the ancestors
Ancestors?
@hushed steeple Crystals make the big bucks that's why
the crabs in sky are actually decorator crabs!
Ooh hi Raf!
hii
Why would they create a crystal anyways that had side effects of krill?
They don't knew about the side effects I think
And yes crabs are smol and innocent
Crabs just hate us for burning their plants 
decorator crabs take stone and rocks from their habitat and attach them to their shell as camouflage
I don't think we need to worry about spoilers here
office isn’t canon
Crabs just hate us for burning their plants
Crabs we're not always like that... They we're friendly from beginning I think but darkness caught them
Nah not human tech
Office doesnt have anything to do with lore
it's just a neat easter-egg
Office is not in lore field
bro calm down
Alright sorry, just put up your theory and we'll point which parts are wrong and right.
no it’s been around a while lol
@hushed steeple How about you throw up your theory and we'll talk about it later?
I recommend a big block of text
That way it won't get cut in little pieces
You can use ``` To help and now you can do paragraph breaks
See? ```
👍
Block text
Three `
I love block texts they're amazing
Bruh
i can't find it because just ios things so thank you LOL
ii think you can just copy paste the symbols sent
Oh yeah
that's a way better idea XD
copy and paste
You know what
Just type up your theory
JUST TELL US YOUR LORE
And for the record, nobody is yelling
Haha it's fine
I hope your day gets better
I recommend hot chocolate and a warm blanket with stuffed animals and netflix
It's fine 👍
We have those days
@hushed steeple I'm sorry your theory got crowded out
Ahem yes
y’all are gonna love what comes next in live
@hushed steeple we have friends for instacharge
Krills in Sanctuary?@lethal stump
i can’t say, beta content
Also Brick can't say here. It would be spoils from beta
Can I dm you@lethal stump ?
Beta is cut off from all other channels
Eh. It helps to make things fair for those of us who don't win the beta key

you can continue friend
brick probably only said something cause you got suspiciously close to guessing a secret. And ngl, a ride around sanctuary would be helpful
no i only said it to make you guys excited for the rest of the season
being in beta makes me feel powerful 
office is not related to lore, we can’t make arguments using it
you don’t need to ask permission, just shoot uwu
I know there's a yellow and green. Red was the first and came from the arc. Yellow is in prarie, purple in vault. Green maybe in fotest?
orange was forest
green in daylight

cyan in between daylight n isles
red: wasteland, ark
purple: vault, archives
orange: forest, boneyard
green: prairie, birds nest
cyan: title screen between Isle and Prairie
blue: valley, ice rink

New crack theory: Megan broke Eden
The earth knows how to protect it's ligjt, but creating power diamonds also created a weakness
Seeing her oportunity with the biggest of the diamonds, Megan shot a powerful bolt of energy down to Eden's eye and cracked it
megan i told you not to break the diamond!!
No, Karen's her sister
karen is megakrill obviously
There are actually 43 gods. 44 when we're done.
is this another crack theory
Our job is to prepare light soldiers to go to Megan and take back the stolen babies
oh do tell more
Children of light, as we see them, are light that gathers from each area to fight the megabird
Problem is, it lives far from where the tools they need to fly are.
The stolen light (stolen by Megan) sometimes gets free on its own... But usually not. So someone has to make the treck to bring soldiers to their weapons
This theory does not hold up well and thus won't desrroy me like mind control megabird does
i~~t's so disjointed that even megan can't destroy it but that's the fun part
~~
btw are we still calling megabird megan
yes
There are actually 43 gods. 44 when we're done.
@short owl what are the other 43 ?
Megan and Karen are two.
Seven don't have names.
Six won't tell me.
Most of the others avoid me
There's a crab named bob tho. He seems cool.

Ight someone tell me what i missed
im in denial that the prince isn’t in lore
we chatted about sanctuary, someone had a theory that humans were in sky
uh we talked about megan some more and wondered what her deal was, and if she was even canon
null is the ruler of crack theories
So nothing much
just the usual day in lore channel
also i've never observed this before
legit moths can fly without a cape...?
i found an actual moth today and they flew without the cape, is this lore or a bug 

Moths no. Capeless vetrans... In some places

are you able to report them ?
no i didn't even friend them so yeah
i was gonna say "ahhh let's check their wedges to see if they're a vet" but then... there was no cape
You only have to be aquaintances to be able to report a player tho
you can report non-friends
it's possible someone might be trying something on a new account without picking up any winged lights, if it's not someone trying the capeless glitch
but with capeless you can’t fly at all
though if they're seemingly flapping without a cape, that is definitely bizarre
that’s a hack
they're somewhere out there in sky
also they got 2 wl before they flew up to temple
ive watched hacking youtubers do that
in the second photo, that looks like a point with some scripting -- not sure if that might do some weird things with a capeless player
aight i guess that's not lore then 
i was like... hold on i could make a theory out of this
Let's not discuss hackers or hacked content around here and please stay on topic 
but yeah, we're kinda offtopic with this
sorry about this guys
i got my hopes up for nothing
i found an actual moth today and they flew without the cape, is this lore or a bug
@gray bridge it's a bug... I faced it yesterday ... I was guiding my friend who just started in sky
I saw he don't have any cape tho he told he took the wings
It's possible to fly that part without a cape... there's a guy who did the whole game without the cape
Let's not talk about it here that's bug and glitching
What have I missed today?
Unlikely crack theory mostly
Some discussion about the mechanics of a capeless and how sometimes other people's capes don't get added correctly
and krill eyeballs
Wow, I missed out on some good stuff
I'll have to scroll back and read all of it
But I'm kinda lazy atm
So I'll probably do it later
What's new in Beta ?
#beta-discussion, testing out new features
Thanks
Oh I just saw a capeless kid today
But the moment I tried to photo graphed them my game crashed
My game always crashes when I try to take nice pics
I personally don't know
But someone here might
I always thought it looked kinda like a manta, but it’s not in the style that manta engravings normally are in
It's definitely not a manta
It may be something indicating the key of a background music
Hmm and it also looks like something used to focus a camera
I’m just spitballing here, I have no idea
Hmm perhaps..
My musical knowledge is subpar at best but I think how the keystones in sky work is that the dot on the top indicates the octave and the dot on the bottom indicates which note in the cycle of fourths the key is
I’m most definitely wrong, but that’s what I have
Oh, well, I’ll try to find an example of what I’m comparing that to
It’s ok 
Hi
I just wanna ask what kind of creatures these skeletons were when they were still alive?
From whales maybe?
I asked in questions and help but someone told me to ask it here
Right! I found another of these in the Forest, and the lower dot is in a different position.
that s a clock for the invisible boat
@south sluice ohh okay, thanks
for the rainbow if you mean in the river area
Welp I guess I was dead wrong on that 😂
I suppose that’s all I have on that engraving. Any other ideas?
Maybe! There’s a chance it could just be ancient graffiti- after all, Sky was a civilization like any other
Oh? 
Ooh yeah!!!
Maybe its resemblance to the other clocks is because it is a clock
It just stopped working?
@little elbow Theory: The bones are of long-extinct(?) multiwinged mantas https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/716964953482985531
It may be a label for the area. The symbol kinda looks like the object above except the above is missing a diamond
This symbol is not only present in Forest temple
i think that's just a manta
there are lots of them on the prairie temple wall? but I am not sure I need to check
A manta is what we thought too, but it’s not in the style mantas are usually depicted
I think it shows a manta trapped in a cage which is true.
There are mantas locked in cages in the forest temple. their light was used as a material in the manufacturing of power diamonds
Oh? I thought those were windows...
we see mantas in multiple styles tho, such as mural mantas and constellation manta, maybe that one is just one of cool manta designs
I don't know but we see mantas there
maybe it a sign saying "Put mantas here"
maybe it a sign saying "Put mantas here"
@humble barn
I was thinking the same. And yeah, that is very likely
I’m sticking with my theory that it’s a clock, for the Forest Elder to keep track of time when it rained and everything got dark...
But yeah you guys are making good points
If it's a clock then why is it on the prairie temple
Wall: Multiple "Put mantas here" signs
Prairie temple: We have big jars!
poor mantas
Prairie focuses more on catching butterflies in pots and transferring them to the temple.
I am kidding a bit but I think it's probably a manta design
Mayhaps
Well, poor light creatures
What the sign/icon could mean is just a wide guess
There’s no real concrete evidence for one theory, so for now, we can only speculate
yeah
Pretty sure that's the whole point of this place
Speculation madness
OH
Right another question that has nothing to do with the symbol
Vault always kind of bigged me in a weird way
I also noticed some details in the isle temple door
If blue means loss (of light... or people), that's means Vault is some sort if Graveyard
But the Vault is supposedly where they stocked all the knowledges they could
k i n g p r o p a g a n d a
Why its like those missing cubes making some symbols
But for who
Like, can the Spirits reproduce?
They thought their next generation could still live?
Were they aware that descendants will appear one day?
i think spirits can reproduce, but elders can’t
Yup
we see in forest with the Bashful Prospecter that there is such thing as flirting
and if there’s flirting, well...
Spirits (when they were alive) are made of flesh and have blood flowing I belive
@hushed steeple IIRC the pattern repeats on other walls, maybe to reduce the size of the game...
Oh 
Spirits (when they were alive) are made of flesh and have blood flowing I belive
@broken basin i think the elders could bleed too, but they were half-mortal so lived much much longer than spirits. Kinda like elves in DnD
The missing pieces might be the knowledge that the elders wanted to hide. Earlier, all the knowledge was at one place. But when they realised that some of it is too precious or has something which they don't want others to know about, they took it off from the shelves and made the archive area and stored it there
Vault was off-limits to the public, so that makes sense
But do the Skykids have blood though?
i don’t think the info was ever public though imo
But do the Skykids have blood though?
@south sluice
No. They are hollow
But do the Skykids have blood though?
@south sluice I don’t believe so. We’re clay statues of light and dark, we don’t bleed
We're wax
They look awfully similar on the outside
I know that they aren't
But still that makes me think
We're wax
@hushed steeple
That's debatable

if we were wax, wouldn’t we melt ?
That's what bugs
Well in sky wax never melts brick
Magical wax+some sort of rock maybe
but candles are shown to be melted slightly, and they’re made of wax
Well in sky wax never melts brick
@hushed steeple
The candles on the chat tables melt.
Red candles?
red candles are melted too
Maybe they are made of something that doesn't exist irl
they don’t melt all the way, but they are slightly melted
But then what's the thing you get by burning darkness and lighting candles??
pieces of light
that’s what they’re called in daily quests
« collect 30 pieces of light »
Not really
no, they make pieces of light
When they go extinguished, they're dark
Well I've some thing to say on this topic
When we reborn at the last of credit it shows a red candle.....wonder why
Our soul?
no, our soul is blue
Our soul is blue
Oh ye
Yes
soul ≠ light
"Gift of light"
WHAT if there isn't any wax in sky world
There's no proof that wax is a thing in sky
maybe, tho I think there is
how do you have non-wax candles
We'll not able to buy anything from ts then
our currency is light
how do you have non-wax candles
@lethal stump
It's not necessary that sky candles are made of wax
@lethal stump
It's not necessary that sky candles are made of wax
@broken basin what are they made of then
Infact, tgc has never used the term "wax"
I mean how can we offer wax to dead people
@broken basin what are they made of then
@lethal stump
Light
we offer light
« offer wax to dead people » only makes sense in sky lore chat
I mean how can we offer wax to dead people
@humble barn
Yeh, we offer them light in form of candles
and we also craft spells from candles and hearts (=light) too
you have seen spirits making spells from light balls
Most of the things in sky are of light.
most of things skykids have are of light
crack theory: nothing exists it’s just green screen with light cgi
what if we only have our phones, and binary data given by TGC
What if sky doesn't exist irl
We're just dreaming till now?
We could go with the "memory of wax" theory - candle light being the memory of wax burning
who’s memory 0.0
What if sky is just jenova Chen dreaming
the « just a dream » thing is a bad cop-out though :/
I hope they don't do that to us
at most i’d accept « these are actually the last moments of our skid with all their neurons firing as they traverse the afterlife »
but if it’s a dream i will cry
and not in the emotional way
in the angry way

i think tgc has worked too much on this to do the « just a dream » thing though
Could be a temporally looped prison though
that’s my theory
but it doesn’t say that the entire story, kingdom, etc., is just a skid’s dream
We're all jailmate
Jailmates living happily as we run around containing our prisoner, the light child who freed the others
I have given in to Mind Control Megan
hey if i made elder emoji réaction things
which should i make
i want to make them primarily for us just cause i think it’d be funny considering how much we talk about the elders
The one I want is too big for a reaction :(
what is it 
Valley twin stealin light with the paddle
ajshsgdf
i was just thinking elder versions of the current reactions
Oh
Valley twins fighting would still be fun
yea
is the next ts considered a spoiler?
uhh do you know what it is ?
Yes
no one else knows, how do you ?
how? it hasn t even been teased yet
probably best to not trust it since it s probably speculation
also this is for #lore-discussion-spoilers, not just any spoilers

alef >>>>
what does that mean ?
think it means "👀"
tgc: alef isn’t in game anymore
lore chat: no
- coughs *
“>>>” is the equivalent of saying “better than everything” or “the best”
I don't remember TGC saying that
according to Raf, they said so about a month ago, Mochi
Wait that thing was supposed to be in the game?
I think i see before from the pins here
the king is in-game, he just isn’t an NPC
Wait what-
but they couldn't remember where TGC said that right?
true
I'm so confused rn.
Yes but is the king somewhere in the game where I can see him?
Wait, those statues are him?
Next from the gates?
How come we never got to see him as a character? Is he dead?
@hushed steeple they added a new map recently. if you are talking about a whole new level then the answer is maybe they will!
he’s around, just not in the way the other elders are
yeah
the theory is that we’re the king
But we are children.
we are his descendants
@hushed steeple they added a new map recently. if you are talking about a whole new level then the answer is maybe they will!
@humble barn didn’t TGC say the realms aren’t gonna change/there’s only gonna be 7 ?


If we are his kids, it means that he got very busy.
nOt that way
Ahhhhh.
...moving on
by this we mean his soul split and was spread to inhabit skids
Shouldn't there be a queen though?
there’s no queen in concepts or in game
like... spiritual descendants
only the king
and/or reincarnations
single king
Eden could be the queen idk.
and king doesn't necessarily be a man
elders don’t have genders like we do
"There are more levels to come after this apparently ".
there was a female Pharaoh of Egypt, for example
the elders are celestial beings they do not have time for the simple, human concept of gender
@lethal stump they were saying that but they kinda changed their mind? let me see if I can find an official comment on this
players: what are you ?
king: i’m the king
players: no like- are you a boy or girl ?
king: i’m an elder
players: ...what’s in your pants ?
king: p r o p a g a n d a
Mood.
My phone is run out of battery and its 01.16 am here
Perfect time to make theories.
@lethal stump they were saying that but they kinda changed their mind? let me see if I can find an official comment on this
@humble barn they did ? i never heard of that
Imagine meeting a hologram of prince or something, telling you where to find him bruh.
High tech.
that’d be so cool 
It could be like an adventure for new locations.
Getting a boat from home and going to another island or something.
just as a general reminder, all discussion should be family-friendly 
Sokka.
??
@lethal stump I cannot seem to find the comment, maybe I dreamt it
maybe you did 
Maybe they deleted it.
yeah, I also seem to remember something about TGC not making more levels
Would be cool if they did.
those one-off comments come and go so quickly 
Maybe they deleted it.
@𖤐⊱[•||.⃟𝕬𝖗𝖒𝖆𝖌𝖊𝖉𝖉𝖔𝖓.||•]⊰𖤐#1703 TGC wouldn’t delete official statements unless they changed their mind, and then they would make a new one
I think it was about the whole "no more stages to life" thing
it was probably not a statement in #news or anything, possibly a comment from one of the artists and/or Ktjn, or a reference to something in a livestream
livestream comments will be hard to track down
as are lore chat comments
Well well well.
I know they have been saying they won't add levels, what I saw/dreamt was something recent
Oooh idea - what if the ultimate gift lets us enter the megabird hivemind and cut the elders free (again)
Who's the mega bird again?
That would be an extension to orbit, so it would be like a level but not
@tropic hinge big star bird in the sky you see in the end credits
it's the megabird
Orbit is part of them, and they may be a collective conciousness and probably has at least some degree of mind control
But it looks like a Phoenix.
A phoenix is a bird
there's some megabird concept art info in the pins
One quite attached to light
the megabird seems to be light itself and/or attached to light
I mean, Phoenix birds die and then be reborn. Similar to the sky kids.
So idk.
it ties into the concept of rebirth, but instead of being the one to be reborn, we and/or other creatures are the ones to be reborn through it
the megabird itself does not die and be reborn according to the concept art
the megabird may have been the one to give us life
and/or everything else in Sky
So it's the mother of all?
possibly
Dang that's deep.
it's technically not confirmed canon in game, but it was very prominent in the concept art
Makes sense.
I FOUND IT
Nani?
<Beta channel alert but this post itself does not contain beta spoiler> https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/583370574449999880/726236717102792746
We may add new permanent spirits and constellations
Oh.
well Ktjn didn't say new level but new permanent constellations imply new levels, or no?
So we're gonna see the king aren't we.
Here's a few megabird concepts
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/637751401539174410

I don't think there's any spoilers?
unless they're talking about the very popular pre-launch beta area that was taken out
It is ||very suggestive of where sanctuary is going. (I stopped reading when it got there)||
I have not ||finished sanctuary because it cannot be finished in live yet||
it's not really a spoiler though. it doesn't contain info about the end of the season
just says that like Ark, it's a permanent addition, which was kind of to be expected anyway
yes you're safe Null
i was scrolling through message history to find things the devs have said here (reika talks about her lunch a lot)
here’s two things that piqued my interest
first one is probably a joke
i hope
what was the context for the dreaming comment?
i’ll check lol
MIND PRISON
it might have been a joke comment because reika was telling pines to sleep
idk though
ye but mind prisons are more stable than time prisons
they were talking about red bull and sneep
it's a joke
the second thing though

YES
the second one has potential
A LOT OF POTENTIAL
I think Home is outside the world of sky
So either
Sky is cut off, locked in a space bubble as well as a time bubble
a new realm might be the real world
Or WE'RE JOINING THE REST OF THE WORLD
so I interpret it as "skykids can travel outside the world of sky"
i think home is like the elder rooms, removed from spacetime. like a timeout corner
would orbit be considered part of the world of Sky?
but if it was about home it wouldn’t be a spoiler
I think it's on a different planet
what exactly is the world of Sky?
it on a different planet can be a major spoiler
because technically we could claim that office is outside the world of Sky
... what if the rest of the world is gone
the kingdom, home, and orbit i would call the world of sky, they’re just separated from each other
@cold steppe true
like it was destroyed by Eden's boom
maybe she just had the office in her mind
how long has office been a thing ?
since launch, I think
since September or October
but we can talk about office here, why wouldn’t she just say that ?
hmm true
September 2019
im betting it has something to do with those « city » concepts of vault
maybe we’ll be able to descend into the real world someday...
go backwards in isle
swim down, until we emerge in a pond or a lake the other way up and we’re in reality with no wings and we look like a normal kid
this fits into an AU i made as a joke of the elders being turned into humans and sent down to earth, with us having to remind them of their past
And it asks us to download Sky II, Essence of Life
i think it’d be really cool if we got to go into the real world
i just don’t know why we would 
new update: « New realm added ! »
everyone rushes to the realm portal, goes through, and is greeted with: « put your phone down and go outside kiddos »
Okay what if instead of just swimming down till we emerge, we swam down, and ran into a strange kid like being. Naturally, we find a nice safe air bubble cave and offer our candle. Confused, they touch it, and the light goes out. We do the death animation, and wake up with a lil blue light on our candle, which rests next to us. And then the next game begins.
@lethal stump I doubt that will be released till corona ends
No no, this will end
at least for americans, which TGC are based in america

i hope they stay safe, it’s amazing they’re working despite everything going on 
me too 
do we know what city or state they’re in ?
nvm, Santa Monica, California
but anyways, back to lore and theorizing about a « real world » realm 
this is making me hope my Humans AU will become canon ngl...i should get on designing irl elders 
What if the next game is not in the Sky but under the water? And instead of a cape, we have fins?
Blub blub blub
Sea ?
Ofc that means there will be an earth and SUN game coming
Cause suns are big balls of fire
Sky - in the clouds
Sea - underwater
Sun - on land i guess ?
Earth: in caves
Sun: in spaaaaaaaaaaaace
but we need to stick with the S theme 
Soil?
Squint
Sponge : Children of bob
although ngl since games are hard to make, i wouldn’t mind if TGC just made graphic novels/novels with extensions, lore or otherwise
Ummmm, I am not expecting a new game from tgc until like 2026.
Let them make sky perfect first
They have said that in the future, some changes maybe made in gw and valley......
yeah
i want there to be more to it, like a whole new branch
obstacle courses...cities...m u r a l s
Yeap, there's just 2 races in which you do nothing and that's pretty much it.
Citadel is the only cool place
yeah
i hope they expand either citadel or they add a new « doorway » to ice rink
i’d love some more lore in valley 
you can always race in with friends, and there s some cool architecture you can explore that s pretty interesting to investigate
im a solo wanderer, i only have friends for hearts
Sorry if I'm interrupting but do you think this winged light is what is in these things?
Please stop and explore. It’s honestly the most amazing thing. I’ve spent hours in valley just poking around in the corners you don’t notice when you rush through in the races.
hm, it’s a possibility !
Winged lights are the memories of the child of light
there are theories about those (« power diamonds ») storing light extracted from creatures of light
what door—
The temple exit
The mantas are trapped in cages.
Their light is used as a material in the manufacturing of power diamonds
crushed into a pulp and purified into pure light
HUGGED into pulp 

The golden diamond thingies u see on both side of the forest temple are like containers of sorts for that purpose
Or cartridges
U can also see those containers on shipwreck where a wl stands
I thought prairie was a peaceful place until i knew about the pots they were shipping to forest
same
once i realized that the light creatures probably die in the extraction process i was like...scared
why does uncle prairie let this happen 
The theory that talked about wat the elder cutscene represents really interested me because it really makes sense
If you want a happier headcannon i always thought light was extracted through different maybe more humane ways and butterflies were a bi product of the process
me, looking for cool names for the elders that aren’t just plain letters:
site: Eden
me:

But yeah your is prolly the correct one cause INDUSTRY
Lul theres a theory about the friend constellation being for eden
it further supports my theory that we are collectively the king/prince incarnate
And the cons is quite literally named The Light
ITS A CROWN TOO
Whales are the most chill creature in sky tho imo
wales seem like they would be good friends to relax with
MY PRINCE RESIGN IS DONE
HERE IT IS
SHOW US
Chonky boi in orbit
get it?
No
its the singer named prince
i swear to the eden diamond
ok gOOD
its just not done yet
im looking forward to it 
Snd sktexh
i love any and all art ppl make of the prince and king
viciously underrated characters to draw
I intend to make the prince look more elder-like
and the star head will be a mask
thaths all i will say for now
prairie is daytime, childhood, and agricultural revolution
you don’t want uncle prairie to be knowingly killing butterflies, do you ?
Thats not only the reason really

I mean those chonky crab friends in sanct
I cant be going there playing with them and havjng to think wat prairie has been doing
Tho in any case, i like to think that prairie didnt know wat they were doing
ignorant friend shaped boi
i think isle knew what was going on but couldn’t do much about it cause, well, he’s ooooold
currently, we don’t know what age was like for them before they were put in timeout
I think all the realms coexisted and went ded at the same time that the disaster occured
But in terms of who settled first, maybe it was isle
isle does represent the very beginning of civilization, makes sense
I guess tho if they were the very first, then why were they the least advanced
because they were the first settlement by the sky people, not just the elders
of course they would be the least advanced, and as the sky people migrated through the kingdom with the elders, more advanced civilizations were able to be set up
you can’t get very far in a tiny desert island 
That was wat i was going for
could someone post an image of the prince if it isn't too much trouble?
tysm 
he’s on the very end here
ty ty 
These are fan concepts right?
No they are old concepts but official ones
Well dang look at how chonky gw elder is
t h i c k
AND IMA REDESIGN THE HECCC OUT OF IT
im looking forward to your...
ri-design
Wait were actually pretty dang similar to the prince
I love that
that’s where the « we’re the prince » theory started i think
Wait no were literally the prince
- cough *
or our weird glowy things on our chest
I thought they were friggin diamonds powering us
nah
s o u l
Well ye i learned the hard truth but it was fun theorizing it
light ≠ soul
our soul is blue, light is yellow/white
you can still head cannon if you want
i mean, children of dark dont exist but that isnt stopping the people in #completed-sky-fanart-and-creations
Super old concept
but it’s COOL
Thats really cool tho
just kidding, they do 
So we basically can be reconnected and disconnected to the light whenever we want
the funny thing about krills are… they blast winglight outta you but dont take them. they surely get angered as heck when they see you, but they dont take anything.
also that cutscene at the battlefield shows a krill’s blue light flicker on, so i take it that they are semi artificial.
So we basically can be reconnected and disconnected to the light whenever we want
@frozen pivot we’re only « connected » in orbit, and disconnected when we lose all our WL and flame
crabs hide from them for a reason, so i'm starting to believe they will attack anything that moves
i bet thats their training
I like to think they are those transparent and seemingly holographic lanterns but in the shape of krills that got caught in the eden fall out
I mean those things can project rays of light
also that cutscene at the battlefield shows a krill’s blue light flicker on, so i take it that they are semi artificial.
@sinful anvil i mean, it’s kinda like when you wake up and you hallucinate a bit and have to adjust yourself to your surroundings. krills don’t have eyelids so i assume they « blink » by flickering their light
Lul the eyeball be popping out
does anyone know what the elder's clothing is inspired from?
random but lore idea:
im more hopeful about eden ending ie to orbit. i think when megabird says “bring them home” it means giving light to the fallen, or p close, bc whomever we gave to ended up growing wings and fly etc etc, and i think thats what we’re meant to do. the task is over. stopping eden diamond is another story.
we weren’t sent to restore the kingdom, but to bring those back home
get the closure they need
so if we saved anyone we p much did our jobs
does anyone know what the elder's clothing is inspired from?
@normal berry well, it seems to be a mix of « generic tunic » and some inspired by middle eastern countries (like vault’s hijab-type-thing), wasteland is pretty european in their armour, and forest’s outfit looks like it’d fit on the cover of vogue. do what you think looks « right » i guess
Wat about spirits tho
so we’re probably not to take their place. just bring them back home. when we died we just ascended. no cycle or smth
Ye
Oh wait nvm, spirits glow yellow when theyre given ascended candles so i guess theyre connected
thx
now that i think of it..
i might be a man, but damn i want forest’s outfit
we all do 
forest elder turned me straight 
tbh i kinda want the valley elders outfits actually
im making a prince cosplay
it looks comfty
a lotta ppl has wished to have the elder outfits as ult rewards too
i think that’s the point, Ri. they’re athletes, they gotta be comfy
i actually JUST got the valley elder hair today
congrats bro !
Elder outfits on sky kids tho
the closest we are to a cosplay would be the current season outfit with the black pants
Heeled sky kid 
haha i have pants that look just like thoes!
then again... i would love to do an irl cosplay of the valley elders..
Cosplay isle and get bald
i’m a twin so my sister could be the other one
i need to do the king too....
but i’m gonna focus on making a real life skycape first because i want to try that
ooo
the prince is easy, hardest part is the mask which is gonna take sooo much planning 
other than that it’s
- white poncho
- black bodysuit
Im just sitting here with my fingers still smelling like onions i sliced earlier
oof
we aren’t really talking about the lore anymore...
we need an elder discussion chat where we obsess over the elders 
We already have ideas for megabird chat, king chat, concept art chat and crab chat
Too many channels brick 
malphite ?
Idk
who ?
I LOVE
YO THATS SO DOPE
Orbit prince?
wdym Kitsuu ?
Why does the orbit prince dont have no cape
so he can flex
bêta content 
Wym beta content 
im watchin 
Omg
why are y’all reacting with a 🧱
Cuz ur brick
oh yeah
So ye why the cotl in orbit got no wings/cape


