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i think krills were protecting diamonds after eden was corrupted something happened to them and now they attack everything thinking they want to steal the diamonds
anyways let's talk about vault and how its connected to the real world
intriguing lede
Okay so I know at least a few of you have seen the Forgotten Ark. there is a Krill at the beginning on the boat ride. Is there anything hidden around that area?
Or has anyone dared to explore that since there aren’t really any hiding spots?
you have to work to get the ark krill’s attention IMO— it only sees you way up on the peaks just under its circuit
I’ve almost been gotten by it once before and it startled me
Yes I have, not much is there besides mountains and clouds. The krill can catch you but it’s very slow
whenever I’m chasing it for the Dark Dragon quest I always have to get right up in its face
Oh okay. Well that sucks. I thought somethin was hidden there
No
well not yet— they could always add caves in there
What does this mask(?)/symbol mean to forest?🤔
I noticed that every temple gate have this
But i wonder what does it mean
I remember someone saying it was an old elder mask, dont take that as the correct answer though
(From concept art I think)
yeah that was a concept for forest momma’s mask
hey also what is this talk about forest and wasteland being the same
@worn hill Not exactly the same, however same place, different time. The architecture is pretty much the same in both places, and you can see the diamond press in both. Wasteland would just be what happened to forest after all the production that’s going on. Along with some other things, they’re very similar.
i like to believe the krill invaded that place after the war
@worn hill As theories from others, I believe that krill were guards of some sort, protecting something. The power diamond explosion from Eden made them become what they are now.
they could have been used as transportation, or to protect goods
like massive guard dogs
@lethal stump As I said before, protectors/guardians of some sort.
by war do we mean « krills went on a bloody rampage » or « krills and spirits made strategic attacks against each other »
OR OR
« two groups of spirits used krill against each other » (civil war)
@lethal stump Probably neither. The TST might have happened before the eden diamond exploded, and krill formed afterwards.
Don’t take my theories for truth they are theories
TST ?
ah
tbh forest gives off some mine vibes, especially with all of the tunnels and such in the third area, as well as all of pinewood possibly being a massive mining operation
you get your dark stone there, then it’s transferred to wasteland with the jars of butterflies where they’re turned into power diamonds
the diamonds are then distributed to the realms (but vault and eden mostly)
That’s interesting. Never heard that before.
@hushed steeple Not exactly.
@uncut bone intro saying all realms are separate
True. However I do believe that they are connected by a timeline.
And they may be separate, but connected.
Say for example, the ending forest room.
That is the start of wasteland.
Maybe they connected by a timeline
Because home is more like a hourglass
Hm, that reminds me of the various butterfly elevators— not exactly the 8-person elevator in Prairie, but the places where a long call brings a huge whirlwind of butterflies to boost you up to a specific place. Are they loreable?
The ones I can think of are in Prairie (muffin dome and maybe the hollow crater in front of the butterfly-call gate), Forest (mostly caves: entrance cliff, and the long vertical shaft with the star in it; maybe also the third treehouse), and I hadn’t previously considered the butterfly scrum in Graveyard, high in that last big pile before the stairs to Battlefield). I’d been wondering on the Prairie/Forest elevators were used to lift cargo of something...?
Yesh... But it seems they are separated
You remember the theory where all realms represent the different parts of life, correct?
Yup
There’s another theory on how the realms connect.
I don’t rlly like visiting this chat but wasteland and forest were always separate realms, they jus both used the same factory and both were realms of industry. Nothing implies that they are the same realm
It seemed like they would be, however I see your point.
How would Forest develop a seacoast tho
Basically, they represent mankind coming to this world. Isle is before anything happened, where man didn’t exist and earth was mostly desert. Prairie was before mankind came to earth, and everything was lush and nothing went wrong. Forest could represent the industrial revolution and what happened because of all the industry. Valley is what happens today, where most of the bad stuff is hidden, and you look in front of you instead of looking at the wastes that lay behind. Wasteland is the future, of what could happen.
@hushed steeple ^
I still think of Forest Aunt more as R&D and Wasteland as bulk process/production
R & D?
Research and development
Ah
Small-scale innovative experimentation
I believe They are always separate realms.....
I would think the opposite, given how the wasteland elder saw what happened to wasteland after the crystals were used.
I believe They are always separate realms.....
@hushed steeple and yeah, I agree with you, they could be separate realms, however, each realm could represent mankind.
An old concept art.... Ignor those arrows
Interesting, what would desert be?
Old concept art dude ... Not really matching to present day game
But it showing how those realms are separate
Good night
What if that is an ancient teleporter.... Like in that image...👀
I'm taking my words back... That's just cloud texture... And that factory is just a 2d image
looks like a scaled-up version of the main structure in the end of forest ngl
No
It's just another factory image
We are not going back to forest is wasteland again
Ur probably gonna start something that says it is
In my opinion all realms are different areas in the same kingdom but different timelines
And those areas have some connecting places like forest temple in Wasteland, left there by devs as a hint
I'm not going to talk about this again...
Also the kingdom goes from its birth (Isle) through its high top (Valley) till destruction (Eden) as every civilisation has in its history, so I always explain that there's hundreds or even thousands of years between each stage
Those are all separate area
Im not saying those are all the same areas
there’d have to be 100s of thousands of years if you’re implying isle became prairie became forest, considering plant growth and the like
I'm saying those are all a part of the same kingdom
Or the same world let's say
But different parts
Although we go into them in different timelines chronologicaly
So that would mean when we are going betweeen realms were just chilling for hundreds of years
I'm not sure if I understood i correctly (I'm not English native) but I think that this kind of storm that happened in Eden could stratificate timelines and scatter winged lights randomly in them
You correctly *
Or I could be just wrong, I'm just trying to show my point and how I'm seeing the time at this point
I mean
The civilisation growth is way too different in each realm to say that those are different places in the same timeline
Maybe some people just prefer to have their realms different in terms of advancement
Plus Eden was their capital
So maybe the further they were the less advanced the realm is
Wasteland isn’t the most good looking since it’s fall but based on what we see, it could have been a great city
And eden was the biggest and most advanced i think
Yeah
And since Wastelands downfall, now valley is the 2nd most advanced
Vault being first
I mean, look at the elevator with no wires or anything
All magic
Sorry I just finished my night shift and I might mix words
Oh it’s ok
Powered diamond bruh
Hmm
They’re probably one and the same
Power diamonds just help to use it
There are some that can use magic without a power diamond, referencing the telekinesis spirit
Can't really kingdoms like Wasteland and Vault next to each other with such a difference in development existing just like this
Can't really imagine *
Well wasteland was probably some sort of fortress, and the last stand before vault
That’s probably why vault is so well preserved
But why Vault is destroyed and showed there?
What's the explanation?
Wow really? I've never seen it this way
I need an explanation on this
Sorry I haven’t actually looked at the all the cutscenes for vault
I've always seen Vault this way: it was made after all the destruction of the kingdom as a reminder of past mistakes and also this stage is not literall as previous ones. As a place where we return the stone to the elders who are all there it's more metaphorical stage or half-metaphorical, cause of the working physical mechanisms there. The mantas there are transcendental, so this is higher level of state. According to my theory, after the kingdom was destroyed, all that the creatures could do is to build a library reminding of past events and wait for the rescue.
Hope it sounds clear
It's like a result of three steps back one step forward 😁
And still this is not the same spot where previous areas were
And only we can contain winged lights to return to lost ones and save Eden
What? Megabird hired us, he knows this stuff 😋
Umm, some users messages dissapears after a while for me
Y’all want a concept art timeline to help us
I still haven't read all attached files to this channel and I might be wrong of course
It's backstory timeline
But I will explain my point of view why I see Sky world this way later and this refers to Elders cutscenes also and
I know this image is outdated but is it confirmed for the old storyline?
Is this the Forgotten Ark that is reffered in this image?
The forgotten ark hold the lanterns found in vault
It’s either transporting to/from vault
Hmm, very interesting
Never paid attention to the lanterns
Those lanterns are never found in previous stages?
That concept timeline is years and years old
Idk if u noticed but this is when eden and vault weren’t even thought of yet
What about that place in praire where that spirit bug was showing and we could wave to him and devs fixed it recently? Aren't there the same lanterns?
It’s either incredibly related to current timeline are really off
At least the mega bird and power diamond/ark seem most legit
according to the concept art, the gw had an emergency ark for royalty
I just started reading this channel and now Im invested in this lore
i don't see how the realms could be the same places different time considering we are always moving forward to eden in the background also just think about it how did isle become eden isle is next to the water and eden is up in the air
Don’t the realms represent stages of life
Form birth to death and then rebirth
I think its one big continent or island with Eden at the very center
the rhythm spirits are athletes right?
these are not athletes at all
They're like, circus or band performers iirc
their clothes says otherwise so i assumed theyre different from ur average spirits
Maybe

i mean even the valley elders have different clothes among their peeps
😭😂🤣
Where do you find the new travelling spirit?
Anyway
What do you guys think about that different 6 cube
The most secret information?🤔
@round river
Mystery ||you can find the answer in all levels of vault||
Mystery ||you can find the answer in all levels of vault||
@hushed steeple
I'll think about this tomorrow 🤔
Ok I'm telling the answer
It's a secret
@round river those are nothing but lanterns

Ahh shoot
Why something obvious like that didn't came to my mind🤦🏻♂️😂
So they put lantern along side with knowledge
Yesh
hm, the diamonds on the vault door don't work
only when you restore the power of the elder the door opens
peculiar
where’s that ?
wasteland temple
ohh
Yes
Hey, I'm just asking, what's the point of ||going to the office|| ? And how to differentiate the beta cape and the blue-green cape ?
Oh my bad sorry
i dont think its been discussed at all so im bringing it up:
why do clouds recharge our light? if clouds are literally water vapor then should they like. do the opposite
This probably isn't lore or anything, it's just a discovery and I dunno if any one else pointed this out but the questgiver and the kid spirit in the hands on hips spirit scenes look the exact same
anyone know what these statues in orbit might be of ? they look a lot like vault elder, however we never see statues in this style anywhere else 🤔
ooo
why do clouds recharge our light? if clouds are literally water vapor then should they like. do the opposite
Water doesn't directly affect cape light (except for black water and rain, which my theory is the rain in hidden forest is contaminated)
What i'd like to say is that its simply a game mechanic
but if you want an explanation lore-wise, maybe the light thats being reflected off the clouds is what regenerates you and not the clouds itself
here i go going on about clouds again 
oooo. i like that!!
i find it hard to believe that a core game mechanic has no lore significance
or explanation at least 
anyone knows what this is, where it came frome and why its the fastest energy charger i ever found. its in the underground section of the forrest behind the door with candlelights in front
Does anyone know what this is?
that s the exit from pineswood iirc
if I'm not wrong that thing was a lightseekers season stuff yomono
So uh, anybody know where I could read up on sky lore? Or is this something I’ll have to figure out through discussion
you can try reading the pins for official and compiled theories or you can ask specific on topic questions in here
Anyone tried to study on symbols all over the sky kingdom and successfully translated those?
If not I'm thinking to work on that
problem is those symbols aren t just font text, they re presumably a whole new language, so we can t use methods like frequency measurement and such
it would be interesting to see what was written though
🙃
Symbol stuff in pins too— bell glyphs, Vault aunt’s hat etc
Meanwhile trying to figure out if Wasteland entrance area makes any sense lorewise— huge fortress-type wall with only one small entrance surrounded by pipes and decorated with two soldier(?) statues; wall gap is right over the entrance but no exterior debris (force vector pointing in?); no clear indication such as consistent tilt from bridge fragments or craters what happened in front
anyone knows what this is, where it came frome and why its the fastest energy charger i ever found. its in the underground section of the forrest behind the door with candlelights in front
@hushed steeple it sounds like the red crystals, but they don’t kill us, just recharged us faster. It could be great if TGC explore this light crystals
@celest spoke i guess that's not entrance that's exit from wasteland...or backdoor
Why statues by back door tho?
Well assume the eden is capital
So it’s like we’re entering the city outskirts thru the service entrance/exit of the power station or water treatment plant?
Hmm so were the cape/mask/etc alcoves built by the elders or by us skykids?
Has anyone soloed Eden and survived with only 7 levels
“Survived” prb wrong word, also wrong forum
Cape/mask/etc are only for appearance purpose
Whoops. Which one is the right one
I've gotten to the end plenty of times with only 7 levels
Eden-spoilers; this is lore
Okay. Sorry
So alcoves built by us, or by whoever built us? Though various temples etc have the fancy gates on the side where we get in
Wdym.... Cosmetics? Or buildings?
Cosmetic alcoves in entrance (or “exit”??) areas
I definitely don't get the point clearly
Krills invaded the forest temple
I have clear evidence!!!
I can’t be the only one to see that right?
I’ll take my leave bows
What's that@white sequoia show us
I don’t really have pictures atm rip
But words should work!
If you take a good look at the forest temple, INSIDE
Then go into wasteland, the area you first meet the krill, is the same place 👀
It is similar 👀
Though there isn't sand dunes in forest like the beginning of waste so maybe forest got extremely destroyed?
@white sequoia dude ..... wasteland is not forest
Again forest and wasteland........my life
Why do people keep thinking they’re one in the same?
Probably for those factory
broken temple and forest look a bit similar to me lol
And I'm pretty bad with lore in general
Ah.
All realms are separate guys
probably a really weird theory but maybe forest people liked cheese. There's a cheese wheel thing on top the golden thingy in the temple
Cheese are you serious....
The game has it's own ancient atmosphere
🙂
So is there anything interesting about isle of dawn? I've always been fascinated by how it was so barren with the temple and that one puzzel
*Puzzle
Meh Isle is mostly tutorial area w some leftover seasonal spirit nooks
Isle of dawn worked as tutorial area in old beta
Well there's some mural in isle
Isle mural
There’s the lil seasonal cave area to the left of the first section with glowy orb boat
Tho if you look at some of those “ramps” they kinda look like giant ship prows
Yeah, I thought that too.
Especially after doing the season of enrichment and seeing the ark with the murals on the sides
I guess the cloud tunnel side-section has the first example of a definite vertical butterfly elevator
Like under the main island in Prairie birdsnest and several in Pineswood
Yeah. I think it is
Tho I was also wondering about conceptual links btw Prairie Oreo section and Sunny Forest, as subsections that require collection of all spirits from main realm
So would the Isle elevator have been for lifting things up to the boats on top?
Or just calling the butterflies to herd them that way?
Bc I think of Oreo elevator room as related to compressing butterflies into jars (gate mural/gesture)
And Pineswood butterfly elevator up to star, maybe for lifting cargo up from mines into barges toward temple, hence drawbridge in main Sunny
And Wasteland butterfly elevator in graveyard... idk
Yeah, I don’t really know. If we assume that the society that came before us were also able to fly and glide like us then those could be used for transportation like we do now.
Eyyy random question and thought, but are the memories of the spirits that we need to relive their final moments before they died?
Just need confirmation if that's canon or not👀.
Oh, and I can’t figure if Wasteland temple looks weirdly close behind corner of entrance area wall, or if that’s some other structure
Eyyy random question and thought, but are the memories of the spirits that we need to relive their final moments before they died?
@prime cipher more than death, is an important moment of those spirits life
Oh! Never turned around to look at the end of the dock 
Oh, and I can’t figure if Wasteland temple looks weirdly close behind corner of entrance area wall, or if that’s some other structure
@celest spoke tbh i don't know what to say lol
Yes, yes that looks like it. 
I guess the mid-temple maybe? 
Hmm I should try to get a look at the other end of the wall hang on
Maybe just the same model as final temple to save on storage? 
@prime cipher more than death, is an important moment of those spirits life
@jade river ohhh... so like their most unforgettable memory? Since the crying spirit's memory is.. y'know. As well as the spirits from Wasteland.
Aaaaanndd that one vault spirit from the ground floor.
How come theres no trail to the isle
And the one to the wasteland seems overgrown kinda


No emoji spam please
That was 6 emotes in 1 min...
was there always no trail to Isle? :0 I haven't noticed much of it 'til now-
How come theres no trail to the isle
Wondering if there's some hidden meaning of that
There's always some kind if hidden meaning 
And it always turns out to be convoluted or boat related 
Isle :no need to go..
Wasteland : "overgrown" wasteland used lots of resources.. now that's a barren land
Just my theory
Maybe bcs not much people want to go to that both places so tgc just make it like that
Nvmn don't believe what i said
Tuna You've a point tho
Ohhhh really? 👀
Well theres no reason to go to those places, theyre basically abandoned
Isle has like no place to live and the wasteland has krills now
So what?
Idk
There has to be a design idea behind it. I mean, when aviary was still around, the entrance to isle was underneath, completely separate from the other levels
And isle was just a tutorial area
Why they removed that cool looking aviary??
You know what tgc has removed so many cool stuffs from early beta
Size, heat, other reasons... Pick one 
They just said Its gone
For now that is 
Speaking of old stuffs, I haven't seen these posted here in a while
Just to see how high some people's heads explode 
A gift from Mirian
It's so cool🥺
I'm totally agree with this version... Because the powered diamonds we saw in sky are all blue coloured... Not red as eden
Ok from on top of that entrance wall, Wasteland temple is really the only thing visible 
But just past the krill swamp, on top of the wall across from that side area, there’s another sealed side area visible
@modest sequoia in that picture those are floating spirits?
And what happened to the ceiling that the diamond oress top was mounted on
Yep frozen floating spirits
Why frozen
Its like that kids statue in eden that we can't save anymore?
Anyone knows the lore behind glasses and Elvis outfit?
Spirits are just big Elvis fans
Beta discussion should stay in beta
!betaspoilers
Content from the beta is considered a spoiler and shouldn’t be posted in this channel. To ask or post about it, scroll down to the beta-related channels like #beta-discussion and #beta-screenshots-videos. Thank you! 
@burnt dome
Oh I thought it's okay since this channel's name has spoilers In it
!spoilers
The community generally agrees that the following things are spoilers:
* Anything after the door to Eye of Eden (but not the word Eden)
* What the 8-player puzzle unlocks
* Anything in the secret level including what it is ||(office)||
* Beta content that is not live or not meant to be accessible (all beta content stays in the beta channels)
oh wait 
Spirits weren’t the only things floating, if u went oob in the right spot u could also find the elders
That downward slope before the diamond makes it so much more menacing
and then you get close up and you see, this
and then you die
Lol
I think the eye is some sort of machine that was ment to recreate the “infinite light” from the intro
@modest sequoia where is that?
I think the eye is some sort of machine that was ment to recreate the “infinite light” from the intro
That's a giant powered diamond
whoa, dang
that blue diamond is REALLY cool
especially with the petrified spirits floating all around it
Ty @modest sequoia
Its sooo blue 
It's looks like random pattern 🤔
Maybe
Does anyone have images of ark before it had any of the lights? Working on a thing and I need it for a theory
youtube........?
Ummm vault elder?
i wanna ask what makes golden wasteland look so green and black colored?
@lean rapids Pollution
Personally I like that they changed eden to red, although power diamonds are usually blue, imo it kinda shows the player that this diamond is different than and went very, very wrong
my theory the orbs made the place normal but overtime wore out and became weaker so it only worked for one area and the cause of the green is all the darkness that lived off of the life in the wasteland and the darkness grew because of the lack of light because of the clouds covering it up.
my qeustion is in the game what are we as a player? what species are we?
in game we feed off of the following, clouds, fire, light, AND OTHER SPIRTS LIGHT
and much more
Vampires but reverse
Humans that drink water????
I have so many Questions on this Scratch on the Pot
Someone didn't want to go in the jar 
@empty thistle actually theres a theory of mine from a little earlier that we don't get energy from the clouds itself but the sunlight that reflects off of them
this chat is so fun to read yall are great 😄
Now I'm wondering what the Mantas diet is
8 skykids of a server
Oh no haha

the fear of ubers when they get yeeted
wooooww how did you get to that blue area with the frozen spirits!
wooooww how did you get to that blue area with the frozen spirits!
@honest obsidian I think it's an old design of eden???
take cover
dang i kinda like the old design too lol
so if mantas have mouths, I wonder what other creatures could have mouths
oh no
Whales have mouths
oh true
Idk if they have 1 eye or 2
imagine 2 mouths
what im thinking is that those frozen spirits are sky kids just like us, except that they did not transition into the afterlife (our next life on sky) for some reason.
probably because of their actions
yeah, there's a couple theories floating around about that
I don't think the devs have confirmed what they are (yet)
They were just normal people though
Medusa was part of the Sky CotL world
however, in old (prelaunch) beta, the statues used to have your friends' names on them
We were probably put here to rebirth
that feature was removed, so it's not technically part of the canon lore, but it's very interesting
and i would say that when we give each one of them a star, if gives them power to dwell happily in the afterlife. i would say the stars symbolize hope
am i getting to corny here
That's really nice
canonically, the realms represent stages of life, but there's probably multiple interpretations that could be seen as well
this is really dumb but i think that the oldest kingdom is vault of knowledge. its old enough to develop a fricking elevator
and fLOATING LANTERNS
what makes you think that the realms didn't coexist at the same time?
or did you mean that Vault was, for example, founded first?
and maybe selective breeding of mantas that are accustomed to a dimly lit area, hence artificial selection to create cosmic whales and mantas
yeh i mean vault was found first
vault is the holy land of the sky kingdom
not the capital per se, but the scientific center
no
i feel like eden is the capital
What if the top of vault is the real vault and the other stuff is fake
really>
actually Valley was the center
valley is the capital
the devs confirmed that
Eden was the palace
Also aren't spirit mantas just dead mantas
wasteland was a typical city/factory zone
am i completely losing it or something
the ghost mantas aren't real, they're projections created by the vault lanterns
or are they
so vault is a VR world
the big ghost whale literally fades out of existence
yeesh
the canon lore doc talks about Vault a little
and they keep glitching
mostly saying that Vault is connected to the other worlds, but isn't really the reality
Sky is just a vr world
THIS is the real vault remember
indeed
I would argue that Vault is the first two floors and the last floor (the one to Eden)
vault is situated inside the mountain
the rest are the dream
The only dream like part of vault is the elevator ascent
Everything else is physical, Bc they made the archives on the bottom floor
yeah
Archives were confirmed to be a real place in Sky
the elevator was something exclusive to sky kids ONLY
well, we don't know that
the peak of vault is most likely up in the top of the mountain
since we see it in the orbit sequence
i will ask the question as old as time now: how and why did the stars fell
just why
wHYYY
yeh but
the brightest lights make the darkest shadows
fair point
physically, darkness is merely the absence of light
but I'm not sure how much that has to do with Sky lore
With the stars united, our light was infinite.
But darkness came, and the stars fell...
Together, the fallen stars made a new home in the clouds.
If only they had listened...
A long time has passed. Now, I call to you.
Wake up, child. Bring our lost stars home.
in sky, the darkness is what happens when too much light is grouped in one place
its essentially mold
oh, you mean like dark plants
yeh
So I was thinking... What if the consecutive realms of Sky represented human history? For example:
-> The Isle is the initial period of mankind history, or prehistory. It is an untamed environment with little reference to bustling cities or large structures, and the emphasis is given to the temple, much like the communities at that time, which were leader-oriented. It also helps that it is the first realm of the game.
-> The Prairie is essentially the dawn of advanced civilization, which also focused on constructing tools and somewhat larger structures. The ambience, to my mind, deeply reflects the flourish of the ancient world, and the natural landscape with some ruins that complement it is a perfect resemblance of the world at that time
-> The Forest represents the Middle Ages, combining an elegance in the structures and grand caverns underneath the trees with an incessant rainfall damaging the players' light, which refers to the recurrent conflicts and wars that happened during this era.
-> The Valley can be interpreted in multiple ways. First, it signifies a great increase in wealth and quality of life, and the "races" can be seen as representations of the ever-expanding knowledge that mankind gained throughout the most recent centuries. Also, it could be that Valley is actually the present, and Wasteland and Vault are the future to come...
-> The Wasteland is essentially a place full of foulness and hazard. To me, it serves as a reminder of the Great Wars and the period of darkness that the world endured, with you, a glimmer of hope, rushing through to move on the next level.
-> The Vault is the current situation of mankind. Seeking only advanced knowledge and rising to the stars (literally, since the space race), humanity has reached a state of being able to provide answers to the most intimidating of questions and disentangling secrets of nature. However, if Eden is what is to come, well...
as in corruption
i would say stars just consumed too much power and collapsed
that doesn't make sense though
this is reminding me of world history
the stars fell because of the darkness
@past mountain
I just read the forest one... It represents teenage not middle age
It's a good theory, but I believe TGC would come out and say if it was a representation of history
@hushed steeple they're talking about the literal Middle Ages
like the Medieval period
but im just wondering shouldnt it be the other way around? stars fell, darkness came
Oh
the realms represent the human life cycle and the time of day
makes sense to me...
I know
no no
There's a reason TGC wrote it the way it is though
see
It just came to my mind, I don't mean to spark an argument
the darkness always existed
Since Sky was hugely inspired by Journey, I bet you sky is a representation of life. They both have very similar ending as well
TGC said it represents the stages of life
something tipped off the balance (cough cough sky people) and made the stars fall
I don't doubt that sky is a representation of life
so ur saying... the darkness that was just liingering there wasnt too bad until it got unfathomable...
as in Isle being birth, Prairie childhood, etc. is canon
yikes
i just add something
I'm curious what the child of light is
is it the shiny boy we see in the Eden sequence?
Imo they are souls of the fallen that guide you to save their world by granting you more wing power
no no
elders probably didnt care too much about the darkness that does come with light until the crap really hit the fan
it's confirmed they're imprints of the child of light
I think canonically our skykids are connected to the child of light
i cant think when im hungry
go eat. selfcare is good
its only 11:53 am here i eat lunch at like 12:10
Then why is it Sky: Children of the Light
also, all the sky cosmetics are indeed made of light I've noticed
how have you noticed that
so there is the child of light as well as children of the light (I believe that's us)
once our flame runs out, we return to our "real" form
hence the name "skykid"
oh yess
I think it goes that our skykids are the children of light that are connected to the child of light somehow
if that makes sense
oK i theorized too much today i have to eat nom
we're the children of megabird
we are the new generation, the one that is needed to bring the world to its former state
I do believe that, Raf
and megabird is The Light™
except that megabird isn't confirmed canon cries
a lot of things would make more sense if megabird was canon
what is the megabird in sky?
so
it's a hypothetical god figure shown in concept art
in concept art, megabird was/is the Light
aha
it's the manifestation of the Light
megabird is like the creator, and we were reborn through the megabird
however, in the actual game, we really only see hints at what could be the megabird
maybe we are reincarnations of spirits
all creatures of light live, go to eden, die and get reborn through megabird
oh! I just had an idea
what?
the spirits aren't creatures of light
they are civilians that.. died?
but they still turn into statues when they die
much like us
so what I'm thinking is
what if sky kids are part light part ancestor?
wanna.. discuss about forgotten ark?
and we let them be free and return to the.... megabird
memelord, go eat
what do you mean by ancestor?
ARKARKARAKRK
ancestor spirits
like the spirits in the constellations?
yeah
we're part light part star
technically, TGC confirmed that they are separate "species"
species isn't the absolute best word, but it's what we have
elders =/= spirits =/= skykids
so... we're not how the spirits used to be when they were alive?
they are humanoids, we arent even human
@hushed steeple what are we then
are we light?
yeh
are we essence?
in sky we have the creatures of light, the creatures of darkness, the stars (elders), the child of light, the children of light and the ancestor spirits
I believe it's confirmed that we're connected to the child of light
there is a singular child of light referenced in the livestreams
alright WHO IS THE CHILD OF LIGHT
the child of light is the child of light
we are kind of stripped from our power so when we collect more stars we gain back our form
what if the child of light, is the Eden elder?
I don't think so
there isn't any
thats why moths are so barren
or there was
if anything, the Eden elder would be an actual elder
which means that they aren't connected to us that way
more winged light means we remember who we are
how many stars do we see fall in the opening cutscene
um
i forgot that cutscene was a while ago lmao
one can also argue that the twins could have fallen separately
wait imma check
they split in half????
ooh that could be a possibility
ara
6 fell
6 stars, which means no Eden elder fell
this means that whoever was in charge of the sky kingdom wasn't a star
which brings about the question... whose palace is eden?
it was a spirit
how do you know?
6 stars fell, we have 6 elders
well maybe it was megabird and not a spirit
there's nobody else who could fill in the role of king
oh now that's curious
so I noticed that the icons are the same
yeah
the icon on Eden and the icon on the sky kid(?) are the same
OH WAIT
I would argue that the middle one might be the child of light
THATS THE CHILD OF LIGJT YEAH
it's definitely not us
it looks like the other kingdoms are connected to eden so im wondering eden was the source of all their power
so the child of light COULD have been the king
basically when darkness came it was in eden and the curse spread to other realms
i think
actually, I think it was the other way around
¯_(ツ)_/¯
"United, our light was infinite"
well we all have our theories
all the constellations are connected to the central creature
and then their icon is used for eden
yes
raf i 100% agree
the child of light is a conduit for the powers of the elders
when it disappeared, the elders became powerless
and they needed light
only when we return do they regain their powers
so that makes it very likely that we're connected to the child of light
what if it was more that the elders broke the union of their powers, which sort of severed their ties to the child of light
as in, how would the child of light disappear?
child of light i suppose originated in eden
well, that was more of a disobedience thing
well... im not christian.. im hindu....
god is megabird/child of light
so idk about bible sorry-
they took something that they weren't supposed to
the forbidden fruit is the creatures of light
elders probably screwed up something
then they were thrown out so they couldn't eat from the Tree of Life and become "immortal" in their cursed state
we dont really know what
I always thought it was a light being talking to you, and that the light that fell got trapped and accepted by the elders and their people
nah
no
the elders are talking to us
the stars ARE the elders
from the cutscene, it looks like what could be the child of light is connected to the elders
how exactly it is connected isn't super clear
source of power
and from the cutscene, it looks like the child of light was there before the fall
:/
a higher being
that means it was a flash back
but also, why did it imprint upon the world?
the whole cutscene is the brief history of sky
OH WAIT
oK now im leaving for real now im hÖngry
I JUST HAD A DVD LOGO HIT THE CORNER MOMENT
WE ABSORB THE IMPRINTS OF THE CHILD OF LIGHT TO BECOME STRONGER
yeah
IF WE ARE PART CHILD OF LIGHT IT WOULD MAKE PERFECT SENSE
WE'RE ABSORBING OUR IMPRINTS TO GAIN POWER FROM THEM
yeah
I think that's canon
that we're absorbing parts of the thing we're connected to
from the doc
"Winged light: “Throughout the world there are these imprints this child of light, a character you are connected to and have a relationship with” frequently called shiny bois by devs and in one later livestream “shiny bois” is referred to as something they should maybe not say while streaming, spoiler maybe?"
and I think that also proves the shiny boy in the Eden sequence IS the part of the child of light inside us
Hage included this note though
"Note: Interesting these first two videos refer to winged light differently (imprints of a child of light vs children of light"
what if the child of light was fragmented when the darkness came
so I was looking at the cutscene again as well
and I noticed that while the child of light doesn't appear to fall with the elders, the icon does seem to make its way down to Eden
indeed
that leads me to believe it's not tied to one physical location
instead, it's omnipresent
7 lines
this means the child of light fell later than the elders
that is, if it did fall
in the same way
are we thinking fall in the same way as like God threw Lucifer/Satan out of heaven or like the fall of Adam and Eve
if that makes sense
I believe they tried to use the child of light as an energy source, hence the Eden diamond
and that's how it fragmented
both the diamond and the child
I'm slightly confused about timeline too
are you saying that they were in Eden and doing the whole child of light as energy source thing before they fell?
the power diamonds?
wanting to grow even more powerful, they attempted to harness the power of the child of light
yes
that would explain the second part
of course, you can't just harness the power of God and the diamond shattered, creating the storm and destroying the sky kingdom
that makes sense
so what would be the cause of the original fall then?
just an arbitrary darkness?
or like the intent to harness the child of light
I really don't know tbh
I think it's because of actions the spirits were taking
not the elders
tbh, the intent to harness the child of light would also fit with a sort of biblical idea
as Satan was thrown out because he wanted to be God
that's essentially what the elders wanted to be
why would the spirits be involved in the fall of the elders?
hmm
well, the spirits existed before the elders fell
they most likely lived in balance with the light
but scientific advanced took its course and the balance was thrown off
We know that the spirits appear to be made of light, but are often found with a core of darkness that needs to be melted away
well, they're basically ghosts
I also noticed these lines
the last picture is the one that sort of leads to us
it doesn't actually connect to us, which I thought was interesting
a fragment of light coming from the storm
it's coming from above Eden
the winged light?
also, I noticed that the lines are yellow rather than white
the elders fell in white lines
ooh you're right
elders are white
winged light is yellow
and spirits are blue
then when you use winged light to ascend them, they also turn yellow
so it seems that by ascending the spirits, we're restoring the bond they had to the child of light
and when a constellation is completed, the respective elder can return to orbit
we're like the opposites of the spirits
a dark shell with a light core
we can even see the light core on the sky kids
I'm wondering if this implies that we already existed and are a sort of host for the light (maybe even the child of light) or if we were a shell created for this purpose
skykids are hollow
at least, the best I can tell
we're vessels for the light
absolutely
but were we specifically made as vessels, or were we chosen as vessels
if that makes sense
when our fire is snuffed out, we go back to our original "vacant" form
oh true
so I think we were made to be vessels
Also, megabird stuff, kind of a crappy drawing of it on the original picture
this is yellow
I'm starting to believe the child of light and megabird are related
Krill do eat light, and I have been thinking about how we seem to have carefully covered ourselves
Ooh, an excellent picture (if I do say so myself) of a winged light getting lost
it's the same wing design as the intro!
If we absorb light naturally, then perhaps the last light that fell and awakened us got absorbed in us. Given that our default clothes look like wax, wr may have carefully set ourselves up not to harm another fallen star
Most game characters look hollow when you look in them
:3
I really think the child of light was stuffed in the Eden diamond and then shattered, with fragments forming the children of light
like the winged light?
That could make sense
I'm pretty sure you've mentioned this as well, but a while back, there was a little discussion about this scene taking place inside the diamond
which would fit with your theory
I mean, that pillar of light is the one seen coming out of the diamond
exactly
I feel like too many things line up to just be coincidences
off topic but so i went oob at forest before going thru the door to the temple but going under it and found this:
notice that the light child here is solid
all the imprints are like ghosts
any ideas why the water at forest would cause you to lose light?
it's simply a bug I think
that one is technically more of a game mechanics thing
especially since it's an oob location
hmmmm
and also
but what if its a conspiracy
the imprints are see through
the hint i see that we are the vessel for the light is when we gave all our lights to the dead and lost all our stars we turn into a dead vessel in which we find the core of light our self
the one in the Eden sequence is completely opaque
it's also an exact mirror of us
exactly
I think "canonically" there's only one sky kid
much like how in journey there's "canonically" only one red cloth creature
i know i come everytime with the same story, but really this makes so much semse i see again in it the hermetic philosophical part. i'm pretty sure that mostly of the story developer studies philosophy
or are somhow very intressted in it and want to share, create their knowledge thrugh the game
yeah
any ideas why the water at forest would cause you to lose light?
@hushed steeple would like to add to this question aswell is, when you stop the rain, water isn't toxic anymore and not taking away the light from you, does it mean that the rain is toxic?
^^^
The quest for the forest light orb did suggest that the forest is a cold place
Ironic since the place that comes to mind as "cold" is the place literally covered in ice and snow
how can skykids go underwater in valley but die from the rain in forest
reminds me of that one game where Norman Reedus plays in
The rain made them age quicker/die quicker
the symbolism behind the rain in forrest i see in the adolescence when we all go through rainy times, it hurts and it should be like this.
when we grown up water dont hurt us anymore
Rain would be better at removing stuff on our skin and would force our cape closer to us. Perhaps the problems are caused by indirect results
@mellow sable maybe coz there's no 'rain' in the valley.. just guessin'..
valley is the rapid descent to a mid life crisis
If we just go into the water, the water isn't as able to pull things off us, and our cape has room to allow our light to stay away from unwaxed areas. Then when we get out, our cape can be quickly dried
If we go into the rain, our capes stick to us and our wax layers are slowly stripped. Try to warm up and more water comes. Try to dry off and more water comes. Try to get distant and you know... More water
do we have an explanation why in citadel is that much energy that we recharge so fast also while flying?
I have heard that it used to be an aviary... Perhaps it has to do with birds, or perhaps it's because the light is just excited to be there
Valley is unlike any other area in Sky - everything wants to go wooosh and nothing is particularly serious.
is that why valley is more primarily focused on games/entertainment (from the stadium and all that)
also i don't think water actually affects skykids, it's just a matter of whether it's polluted by darkness or not
hidden forest is quite a dark place so that might be why stuff like crabs and darkness plants eventually developed over time
(am kinda new around here but i'm really interested in the lore)
darknees plants seems to like dank, dark places
is this supposedly the concept krill ?
Good lord that thing has teeth
I'm sorry if this is not the right place (please let me know, I can remove it!) but I only just found this now and I thought it was so hilarious!
Like .. what, though? 😂
that's TGC's irl office
technically it would be better in #screenshots-and-videos , and you've already spoiler tagged the file, so you're good to go to post it there!
oh yeah!
the office contents are on a cycle
you don't need to spoiler tag anything here
I've noticed different spirits every day
but none of them have done something like this 😂 I'll have to make sure to check them all out
thanks!
there's a flying cat too, I think
I kinda thought he was a cat until I looked at the screenshot 🤷♂️
I think the cat is orangish brown
but the office is mostly more for fun than lore
though there's concept art on the walls and such
yeah true, it didn't seem a good fit here
but there isn't a general spoilers channel so idk
also, someone determined the height of a skykid in irl measurements
so tiny?
I forget what it was, but they determined the height of the cabinet at the entrance and the height of the awards to calculate how tall a skykid is
let me see if I can find it
nice 😂
Well that was an amazing bit of sleuthing there, thanks for linking it!
I bet TGC never thought their BAFTA would be used like that 😂
maybe a 6 year old
we are children playing at being someone else
That is true, ha... my beard is technically just a mask, after all.
Someone said something about krills emerging from oil and idk but they can faceplant into it
yeah, that's a super amusing bug
is there a way to find the stories of past seasons? like i'm really intressted in whats the matter of the small ship with 3 light balls in the cave in isle
Isle mini-ark spirit was piggyback upgrade from Lightseekers— came back a couple-few weekends ago, will prb come back again and there are YT vids
Isle mini-ark spirit was piggyback upgrade from Lightseekers— came back a couple-few weekends ago, will prb come back again and there are YT vids
@celest spoke thx, so i will whatch the lightseekers story about it :)
Did anyone else notice that the current questgiver and the kid spirit in the hands on hips spirit scenes looks the same?
oh interesting
i love reading this channel it's so inTerEsTinG
I just rechecked mochi’s glyph pins and think there’s a minor new change: the prayer spindles on Prairie’s central star island (between the 3 belltower islands) are now mixed silver/gold instead of pure gold— they’re entirely gold in the header pic for one pin.
But I was thinking about the Oreo area again, and there’s obv somekinda pocket dimension or teleportation involved— could that actually be part of the Forest ecosystem in some way? It’s the first place on the map that has cloud trees, tho noobs will always see regular Forest first
And then there’s the Prairie cave section with mini-river that requires a Forest spirit— idk where any of this is going, but if you fly high enough in the Oreo zone you can see ocean... maybe it was originally direct butterfly jar transport to Forest??
Why does this things look like craters, craters made by artillery strikes?
While standing there i do not loose light btw
is that wasteland
Maybe the boat was destroyed by a mortar strike instead of a krill attack
So, everyone knows that in wasteland, a war was fought. There are evident signs of a battle. Well, I think that the entire war started because of wastelands resources. The realm had lots of water, which was good for trading by sea, and it also had much ore and stones, which were transported to prairie to make the stone butterfly jars, and build temples. They used the resources up, which is why the water and air is polluted, and a war was fought for the remaining resources. Also, the krill were rode into battle, and since the war was finished long ago, they still roam the land, killing off "enemies" ⊙﹏⊙
Thx bruh
I would like to believe that in this war where 2 main factions
The ones who wanted to use the light in a more traditional way
And the elders who used light to make diamonds
Ooh
Yeah because there must have been lots of light. Think about the ark. The patches of cloud that are cleared up are super bright.
The defenses in wasteland (specially in battlefield) seem to be a defense by a civilization much smaller than their enemies, probably the ones who created the eden diamond tried to defend it from their enemies (people of light)
Krills are definetly machines made to patrol certain areas
As in the upper swamp we can see how a krill emerges when a player reaches a certain area (probably triggering their defense sistems)
And the opposing side were the ones who used the krills beam to seek out hiding soldiers
The people of prairie must have sent big numbers to fight, because the krill seem to know the manta is an enemy. And mantas are present in prairie
Maybe Eden was once a great civilization, before the war
1 the king's castle (mostly the building that is floating with the eden diamond)
2 the industrial tubes
This proves that eden was a battlefield as we can see frozen skykids or soldiers in that area
Yep, and the industrial tubes are present in gw
The krills patrol with the sole purpose to DEFEND the eden crystal
i wonder who was the opponent... or what
This proves that the eden crystal was placed intentionally at the top of the mountain
I think the wasteland people fought against most of the other spirits in the other realms.
maybe corrupted civilians idk
some of the spirits werent even fighting they were just trying to survive
I think the gw people imported krill from eden, where they used to live naturally
@hushed steeple i believe there was 2 sides
The ones who used diamonds as their power source
And the ones who refused this type of energy (a resistance maybe?)
oh also the emotes from wasteland are battle-related? (idk the right term lol)
I think the resistance was gw. They wanted to use other resources in bulk to manufacture weapons
sneak
Faint: death
Sneak: hide from enemies
Salute: respect to superiors







