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spring blaze
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thats above wasteland lobby right?

ember zodiac
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Yes

sacred rapids
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I have a theory
You guys know the Disney movie Atlantis right? If you don't go watch it it's a underrated movie but anyway all of the Atlantians have white hair like our skykids
So I think that the realm of sky is just Atlantis after a real long time and most of the Atlantians have evolved to be light

ember zodiac
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šŸ‘€

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Haven't watched it tho

sacred rapids
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Now I've never played or watched a playthrough of journey but...

ember zodiac
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Same

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Sky feels like journey but it isn't actually related to it I suppose

sly kestrel
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It’s not

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Well there’s similarities and reference designs and stuff

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But story wise they aren’t connected

sacred rapids
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With a name like "professional liar" I don't know if I should trust you on that

sly kestrel
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I don’t lie on this chat pAww

sacred rapids
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.... Alright

lament barn
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Hehe

sly kestrel
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when it comes to lore I tell no lies šŸ™‚

lament barn
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:3

pulsar gyro
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Not sure if we still need info on crabs but

-when u call they get enraged and immediately charge
-after watching them for a while, they seem to resemble bulls maybe? They turn red and get ready to charge, then they charge fast and straight, and maybe get stunned
-in general their walk pattern is circles. They walk circles left, then right randomly. And when they are turning they usually speed up, like they are drifting or something.
-sometikes they just stop and hide under their shell thing? Like a turtle
-when they are upside down their front legs run circles, like they are trying to swim forward, and back legs go back and forth in an almost straight line
-when they are flipped upside down, they help eachother back up
-their legs move kind of roboticly, but their actual walkpath is very random

Hope this helps, let me know if you can argue for or against any of this, and if I should continue my.. crab studies xD

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Also, I keep seeing crabs hiding when krill are near or looking at them. Then they pop their heads back up when the krills back is to them. I made sure to see this multiple times before deciding that it's happening quite a lot. (These studies are all from shipwreck)

zinc arrow
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oh? thts interesting..

sly kestrel
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ā€œA fun crab lore fact: there's a specific reason for the way that Sky's crabs walk the way they do. their walkcycle mimics something... SkyThinkā€-Ash

ā€œOk are their legs mimicking something, or is it their whole bodyā€-Me

ā€œIts the walk cycle, but what that mimics is also relating to what the crabs are, technically. How crabs are born/made/created/come to be. What are crabs šŸ¦€ā€- Ash

zinc arrow
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the circle of life

sly kestrel
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Thought u guys should kno where we got our crab hint and walk cycle talk

pulsar gyro
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Thank u Jay

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That is where I got my drive to do this

marsh jungle
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Is there a reason for the sky creatures to be based off sea creatures i.e. mantas, crabs, krill, whales?

barren bloom
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Grey smol manta?

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ā€œA fun crab lore fact: there's a specific reason for the way that Sky's crabs walk the way they do. their walkcycle mimics something... SkyThinkā€-Ash

ā€œOk are their legs mimicking something, or is it their whole bodyā€-Me

ā€œIts the walk cycle, but what that mimics is also relating to what the crabs are, technically. How crabs are born/made/created/come to be. What are crabs šŸ¦€ā€- Ash
@sly kestrel

Mimic a clock?

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Crabs were start attacking after sky people took too much water

pulsar gyro
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The quote says that what the crabs represent are what they are technically which makes me think it has to be something that they literally are, if that's possible

barren bloom
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Could you explain how the crabs mimic the clock?
@hushed steeple because they walk in circles? šŸ˜…

pulsar gyro
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Could be an infinity sign

barren bloom
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Sometimes i think that krills are lot of crabs merging together

pulsar gyro
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Yea that's basically all we need to know. I thought we needed all facts about crabs, but tgc hinted about their walkcycle, so most of the facts I presented aren't very helpful

craggy nexus
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oh yeah hmm there was that crab pile concept art

pulsar gyro
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When u reference concept art is it stuff that the art team has made? Or like fanart

craggy nexus
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team made, sorry that wasn't clear

barren bloom
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There are smooth krills concept, but that one looks like a corrupted manta instead of flying centipede

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Yes

pulsar gyro
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Where do I find concept art

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Pins?

barren bloom
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Smoot krill

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Looks like journey sentinels

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From the game Journey

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They're called guardians when i googled this pic šŸ˜…

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Me too Can't afford PS4 šŸ˜”āœŒļø

pulsar gyro
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Yes kinda waiting for the lore gods to look at our stuff lmaoo I haven't drawn any conclusions

barren bloom
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Do u realize that vault crabs are gigantic

pulsar gyro
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I don't remember vault crabs

barren bloom
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There crabs in valley? 😮

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Ohhhh ya

pulsar gyro
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Cube area? Uhhh what sorry

barren bloom
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Vault library, through the two players door

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Yup

pulsar gyro
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Oh ty I'll check it out

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Hmm which floor? I went in the 4 person telekenesis door and saw no crabs

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Ohhh

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Ok where are the crabs in that room

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That's the 2 player underground maze right

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Oh cool, makes sense

barren bloom
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Off topic, but I just remember something I want to talk about the Cry spirit.

In the memory sequence, her friend is blocked by a darkplant right? And it was theorized that darkplants grow in dead/dying things.

In the picture, there are three graves and a darkplant. I'm theorizing that this darkplant is where the body of cry spirit. She didn't escape, but died grieving to her friends
@hushed steeple they're blocked by crumbling stones, no?

lament barn
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...did anyone ever think that vault was an experiment? Like, they were seeing if the creatures (mantas and fishtailfishbodyfishahead ) could adapt to a new environment, the mantas did and the fishtailfishbodyfishahead didn’t which is why the bones are at the top level

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Did I just interrupt-

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Oh boy..sry

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Hhh where did everyone go-

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Ah okie :3

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:3

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Okie

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: D

barren bloom
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There's also spirit creatures in vault that has many flaps

lament barn
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Ah yes

barren bloom
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The one that carries lanterns on it's back

lament barn
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mutant spirit mantas

barren bloom
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Smaller ones are also flying next to it

lament barn
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Yes

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Ohhhh

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Makes sense

barren bloom
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When i just elevated to the level where it exists i can see there's a silhouette of something but when i go there i found nothing

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See ya

drowsy spoke
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Hm if there are mega mantas and mega jellyfish, are there mega butterflies?

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And mega c’rabs?

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And mega krills?

royal kiln
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@sly kestrel start a sky podcast?blush

heady sinew
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Podcasts are audios! Imagine watching a video but there's no video lol. Podcasts can be informative, entertainment, to relax, etc etc.
There is a podcast that features one of Sky's developers explaining the origin of Rainbow Bridge

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There's plenty of Podcasts on Spotify

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Also, does anybody have the Elder's names concept???

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Thank you so much! pSkyHeart

upper condor
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@heady sinew do you have a link to the rainbow bridge podcast or know where to find it? '^^ sorry for the ping

heady sinew
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@heady sinew do you have a link to the rainbow bridge podcast or know where to find it? '^^ sorry for the ping
@upper condor yeah! Just let me look for it real quick pEyes

upper condor
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Ok! Thank you! :)

heady sinew
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I forgot in which time stamp they talked about the Bridge though SkyFaint

upper condor
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Thank you so much!

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Lol its fine

heady sinew
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Keep in mind these are concept names, not their canon names
@hushed steeple yus yus. I wanted them for inpiration. I might write some Sky fanfic in the future and wanted to come up with my own names for them

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Of course! pSkyHeart

reef flax
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Does anyone have any theory of the Bird in Citadel? GWnonMuugu

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Valley of Triumph, Spirit Gate-

heady sinew
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The one at the entrance? Jay mentioned it's from an old quest from beta

reef flax
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Yeah-

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That one

sly kestrel
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And, yeah i think Vault is like a research facility
@hushed steeple not rlly no, it’s a place built by the scholars to hold knowledge in the realms. It holds all types of knowledge some forbidden too

reef flax
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I never had any theories on it of my own so Im wondering if anyone else has

heady sinew
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I like to think it's a little monument to birds SkyLOL

sly kestrel
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It is a library sort of

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Sky edition

reef flax
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Or a larger Bird covered in snow and ice to honor it- GWnonMuugu

sly kestrel
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Oh no it’s an old light quest from beta

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Not much lore to it

reef flax
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Really?

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Whats the quest about?

sly kestrel
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Collecting lights

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U would get a candle for it

reef flax
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Like in the race somewhat?

heady sinew
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Manta call got that job insteadpEyes

sly kestrel
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A lot of these unnecessary light quests were removed bc they seemed a bit random and they didn’t want us to stray too far off from the story

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Like the turtles

reef flax
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Turtles?—

sly kestrel
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Yep

reef flax
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Turtles would have been great-

sly kestrel
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Yea but they didn’t want us to get distracted from the story pWow

royal kiln
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What would they bring to the game thonk

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I mean... they are turtles after all

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That would be pretty sweet CryLaugh

reef flax
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Besides fish I want turtles now-

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How big were the turtle-

heady sinew
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Ocean themed season and you jump thru a path of giant turtles to go across the map pWow

lilac stone
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What

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Where

heady sinew
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Nowhere

lilac stone
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Where will the turtles be

heady sinew
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It's just an idea SkyLOL

lilac stone
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I have a question

sly kestrel
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Well they’re gone now so not much use taking about them if they aren’t related to lore

lilac stone
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Why are there several holes in golden wasteland sky?

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There are more realms?

sly kestrel
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Cuz it’s secretly a block of cheese

lilac stone
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Haha very fun

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Why are they there

sly kestrel
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U say that like we have an answer for everything

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As if we have confirmed answers like that

lilac stone
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It's for discussion

heady sinew
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I guess the stormy clouds gather holes in different places skyShrug

lilac stone
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Uhhh

sly kestrel
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Not much to speculate

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Jus a bunch of holes

lilac stone
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One of the holes are where we come through valley to wasteland

sly kestrel
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And I don’t think it much helps us with the story

lilac stone
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So there are more realms?

sly kestrel
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No....?

lilac stone
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And I don’t think it much helps us with the story
@sly kestrel every bit of detail is important

sly kestrel
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Jus bc we came from a hole doesn’t mean those other holes are different realms

heady sinew
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There are no more realms, the hole we happen to go thru is the one that conects Valley to Wasteland

reef flax
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Wasteland be the StormGWnonMuugu

sly kestrel
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Plus, all of wasteland is jus some deserted place under the huge mountain

reef flax
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But how did Wasteland waters turn to Oil/Acid-

sly kestrel
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Not acid

lilac stone
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They are mucky

heady sinew
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Those holes could have been used as safe places for boats to go thru, but nothing else comes to mind for me

lilac stone
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So you could say oil

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But not acid

sly kestrel
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Reika made that a bit specific one time but oil and tar is a good guess

reef flax
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Ahh- I see

lilac stone
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What about a realm representing afterlife?

reef flax
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If they did add another realm that would change the lore I guess GWnonMuugu

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Thats Orbit-

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After Eden-

lilac stone
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OrBIt is not a realm

sly kestrel
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There is no afterlife
In sky, it’s simply a cycle

royal kiln
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The holes

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When you bring the cyan light in lost ark

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The wind makes holesthonk

lilac stone
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Isle doesn't seem like birth tho-

sly kestrel
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It represents it but when they built it they didn’t have birth in mind

lilac stone
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It looks more like when you are a toddler

sly kestrel
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Storm represents death

reef flax
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In lore, Megabird drops a Soul on the Beach aka Isle where the Soul learns to fly I guess- idrk-

sly kestrel
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And this whole life cycle is for the skykids and THEIR journey of life
Not the spirits

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Spirits don’t have our journey

lilac stone
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And vault represents old age, right?

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Golden wasteland?

sly kestrel
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Mid life crisis

lilac stone
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What

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Ok

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Valley?

sly kestrel
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Adulthood

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Forest is teenage years; praire is childhood and isle is birth

lilac stone
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Hidden forest represents emo teens

royal kiln
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The birth-death-rebirth in sky seems like it’s kinda similar to the egg short story by kurzgesagt

sly kestrel
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Ye

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No idea what that is

lilac stone
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Sky is supposed to represent every religion, or is it not?

royal kiln
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Its like you’re always reincarnated into a different person

sly kestrel
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Not represent a religion but it’s obvious some of the game motives are from some of them

royal kiln
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Oh I forgot about the religion thing

lilac stone
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The whole cycle thing

sly kestrel
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But we shouldn’t look at the religions and base it as the story of sky

lilac stone
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It's a thing from Hinduism, budh,etc.

sly kestrel
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They jus took ideas from it

lilac stone
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Yes

royal kiln
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Yeah cycle is similar to boudhism for example

lilac stone
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Then adding a new realm?

sly kestrel
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No

lilac stone
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Will it be possible

sly kestrel
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No

lilac stone
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Ok

royal kiln
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Yeah

lilac stone
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Change to realms?

royal kiln
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Since each realm already represent something specific

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The closest thing is to edit realms

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And add to them

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Like the lost ark

sly kestrel
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Entire realms no, additions and extra areas to them

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Yes

lilac stone
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DAWN
DAYLIGHT
DUSK
NOON
EVENING
NIGHT
hmm?

heady sinew
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Caverns and Ark are raw proof

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Of added areas

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Should have been more specific lol excuse me

sly kestrel
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U jus named the realms Yayy

lilac stone
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You wake up with no experience of yesterday at DAWN

sly kestrel
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wait

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NO ITS WRONG

royal kiln
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Bru

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H

sly kestrel
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Dawn, day, rain, sunset, dusk, night and then storm

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That’s the correct one

lilac stone
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By the end of the day you are wiser

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Thus representing vault of knowledge

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I MEAN 24 HOUR END

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At night

royal kiln
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Vault is the most interesting part of the lore for me

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Except for the whole paper I wrote and rewrote on the origin of the stars/elders

sly kestrel
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It’s a library holding tons of knowledge, if tgc is ever going to reveal some sort of backstory I believe we will find it in vault

lilac stone
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I think I saw some cracks in vault

royal kiln
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Also would the wasteland warriors be protecting vault?

lilac stone
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Is that how a spirit got inside?

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By a crack?

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In the walls?

royal kiln
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A little confused here

lilac stone
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Vault has supposedly, forbidden knowledge

sly kestrel
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Well a belonging spirit got inside bc of the overall decay and ruin
But idk what crack ur talking about

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And yes

lilac stone
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Well a belonging spirit got inside bc of the over decay and ruin
But idk what crack ur talking about
@sly kestrel the crack in the walls

sly kestrel
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It’s called the archives

lilac stone
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Due to decay and ruin

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I saw a crack in the 1st floor (not ground floor)

heady sinew
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You mean the chipped part of the Box thingy?

sly kestrel
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Think of it like this
There’s a HUGE safe of money that is locked up and meant to have no one enter, but centuries pass and it starts to decay, bc of this, it’s weak and now ppl can sneak in and break through any cracks or small entry ways

lilac stone
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Exactly@heady sinew

heady sinew
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That's more of a floating platform

sly kestrel
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Even tho they confirmed that the belonging spirit snuck in
I do believe there were many other spirits that were able to get in as well

heady sinew
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I think the stuff we see inside are power cells keeping it up

sly kestrel
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Also forbidden knowledge
U can only imagine what this was, and why it was so important for them to keep it all locked up

heady sinew
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Dangerous power diamond practices and light extraction techniques perhaps?

lilac stone
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Things people were not supposed to know...

sly kestrel
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If u haven’t played the season of belonging I’m pretty sure u won’t kno what I’m talkin about but it’s whatever

lilac stone
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Sky was run under a dictatorship?

sly kestrel
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Eh

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Doubt it

heady sinew
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Anything before Enchantment is foreign territory for me

sly kestrel
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But if there was one overall leader of the sky kingdom, I believe it would be the king
But we still have yet to prove if he is current canon

drowsy spoke
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I think it's best to assume concepts are still 'canon'

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since we don't have much to work with otherwise

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Like concepts are 'canon' but if soemthing in the current game contradicts the concepts then yeah the current game stuff wins

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Ooh and also I haven't been here a while anyone care to tell me if we figured out crab orgins yet?

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Aw man

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OOoh and one thing more I've been reading past messages yes I agree we require a sky podcast

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Like imagine the POSSIBILITIES šŸ˜„

humble barn
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yeah they are like radio shows which you can listen to whenever you want

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It's completely up to someone who's gonna do podcasts

hushed steeple
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Ooh and also I haven't been here a while anyone care to tell me if we figured out crab orgins yet?
@drowsy spoke the murals in ark's cave talk about it

hushed steeple
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ive sent the pics here before

humble barn
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^this is one of the crab origin theories I know of

drowsy spoke
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Thanks mochi

humble barn
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based on Seraph's posts

sly kestrel
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Yea there’s a separate path leading to that boat

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Also

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Surprise surprise, there’s a pipe that leaking fresh water down that path

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U can even hear the sound effects

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Yes fresh water

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I will record it for u if I have to

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no

spring blaze
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i think some of the concepts are canon, just implemented differently

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the only concept art we’ve seen is pretty much ones pinned here, we dont see much of the more lore—driven present day concept arts aside from seasonal stuff

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like i dont think ive seen a krill concept art but a darkness creature like the krill has been a concept, like that weird big teeth darkness monster in the concept arts
same intention (assuming), but different execution

sly kestrel
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A little hard to tell what ur looking at in the screenshots

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But heyyy

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I see that kiki cosplay

spring blaze
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steel beams lookin things

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i really wanna know whats the lore behind those scarves lookin stuff we see around the kingdom

sly kestrel
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We seek them in isle and eden

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Maybe jus loose cloth?

silent sigil
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They look an awful lot like the scarves from tgc's game Journey

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so it ay be that

drowsy spoke
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Hm I don't see the similarities alll that much

late sierra
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are there any theories about the ark? how they came to be, why their ship is there, why it's called a forgotten ark etc

silent sigil
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im sure it'll get clearer as the season comes to a close

sly kestrel
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There’s a bunch

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I would say mine but it involves the lightseeker season and a lot of ppl get confused on that part

silent sigil
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Yeah

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I bet sky has gotten a lot of new players in the last season or two

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I personally played sky a while ago and only came back to it at the start of the season

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I dont remember there being seasons when i first plays

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played

silent sigil
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OOOOO i just had a huge idea. I feel like the Elders of the realms were made with inspiration from the greek gods:
Isle Elder: old, wise, has a staff, therefore is zues.
Prairie Elder: Possibly female, gentle, and appreciates beauty, therefore Aphrodite.
Forest Elder: An eager craftsman/woman and forger, therefore Hephaestus.
Valley Elders: Twins, Young, strong, althletic, one likely male, one likely female, Therefore Artemis and Apollo
Wasteland Elder: A warrior, fighting to his last breath, therefore Aries.
Vault Elder: A wise, likely female elder who values knowledge, therefore Hera or Athena.
What do you guys think?

sly kestrel
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The isle elder is actually a ferryman if ur using Greek myth

silent sigil
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OOOoo you're right

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so maybe hades

dense monolith
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Ok I'm a bit confused on the lore of this game so can someone explain it please

silent sigil
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Look at the pinned messages, that sould clear things up

sly kestrel
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Not rlly

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No matter what u see in the pins, it won’t explain the entire story

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Nuff this channel is for discussing the lore and trying to figure it out
We barely have anything confirmed at all, we jus have theories and speculations.

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The main idea is that we were sent down to save the elders by reconnecting them with the light to bring them home

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Details on the backstory of the civilization and stuff, we don’t have anything confirmed on that

barren bloom
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I would say mine but it involves the lightseeker season and a lot of ppl get confused on that part
@sly kestrel confused like what

dawn imp
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Well, at the start for what I think, the vault elder was calling us down, to try reconnect players with stars, holding someone’s hand, trying to lead the way to establish peace once again, who knows how the wasteland looked before ( I think ) a battle now that we’ve seen flowers etc in the forgotten ark? What if Eden was beautiful really, but because the elders (maybe) got corrupted, it’s all crushed? Ever wondered what those pieces that were left behind in Eden, that we now use to seek shelter were? That’s just a thought I had-

strong zodiac
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does anyone have the timelien images of the sky lore?

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canon one

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I forgot where I put mine

broken basin
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This is the megabird right

hushed steeple
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Yee

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I just saw the end of enchantment

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On YouTube

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By someone with beta access

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Not sure if I'm allowed to spoil that

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It's cool actually

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No problem

ripe cedar
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Toyota pFIRE

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@hushed steeple we still haven't done our roadtrip

daring barn
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Ok so-

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The ascended spirits give us WL right?

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But we have to free the WL aka give them back to the bodies

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So like

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Did the spirits kidnap WLs to give to the player?

ripe cedar
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Damn you lost me

daring barn
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I uh

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Wait what

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I thought we were supposed to return the lights?

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ā€Bro I brought my siblings here so they can go home and u kidnapped them?ā€

hushed steeple
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@ripe cedar ?

ripe cedar
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You don't remember, what a sad issue pCry

steep coyote
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So... They are not birds

drowsy spoke
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They look like paper birbs

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Like origami

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When I was drawing them for a comic I literally google ā€˜oragami birds’ and it was like the same thing

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In Chinese we call it a é¶“ tho

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But those are like a type of birds so whatever

sly kestrel
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does anyone have the timelien images of the sky lore?
@strong zodiac sorry

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But this doesn’t exist šŸ™‚

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Well there is a timeline out there with the backstory

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But it’s not canon it’s a scrapped concept that’s rlly rlly rlly rlly rlly old

zealous summit
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Well, guys, I finally did it. I got every non-event wing buff

uncut bramble
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Did a war happened in wasteland?
Or I can't ask here?

polar plinth
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I can't stop thinking about the broken buildings/hallways in eden

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Like what was it before...something happened

sly kestrel
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Yes a war happened in wasteland

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U can ask

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This is a lore channel

unborn fog
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well according to an old lore document eden was the capital of sky and the elders lived there, but then the 'storm' came and destroyed everything. might be outdated though

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should i spoiler that

polar plinth
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When you think about it this game can be pretty dark honestly,,you basically collect winged lights then keep sacrificing yourself

sly kestrel
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No, it was an old concept that got scrapped long ago

polar plinth
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I mean it says spoilers in the channel..do we still need to spoiler?

sly kestrel
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Nope

polar plinth
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Huh. That wouldn've been interesting tho

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Any theories on the diamond at the end?

sly kestrel
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And I think the fact that we keep dying is jus for the sake of replayability

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Like how we can meditate at the elder shrine over and over

polar plinth
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They haven't done a bad job keeping it entertaining for people who finished the game

acoustic inlet
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I can't stop thinking about the broken buildings/hallways in eden
@polar plinth I suppose there was a huge earthquake when the eden's eye diamond broke, this explains why the buildings are tilted there and others damaged buildings like the broken brigde in forest, the damages in orrery, etc.

cobalt palm
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little theory about lighting other skyds, and who the statues and shiny orbit kids are

We see shadows of other sky kids that we haven't make acquaintances with yet, and only after their candles are lit, do they become fully "real" for us.
We also see darkened shapes of sky kids in Eden, and it's not until we give them light, do they become lit into shapes similar to the shadows of unlit sky kids.

As an idea, what if those other shadow kids (including ourselves to others) are effectively living memories of the times before they went into Eden, and became the statues, that we are all living at different times, and it's only through connecting our light that we "phase" into each others worlds?

If so, then we are all actually living within Eden and orbit as the shiny kids who give ascended candles, and when we become reborn, we are put back into a shadow body of another sky kid memory who ended up in Eden, prior to becoming a statue, but our light stays in Eden as our previous incarnation. That could be why we never see ourselves as the shiny kids in orbit, as when we arrive, we are welcomed by those who are always there, and are even us from a previous lifetime. But they have sent their physical bodies and memories back to be reborn as shadow kids again in the kingdoms.

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That could also explain why we see all of our friends as we fly into orbit, as they are always there from a past life.

uncut bramble
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Yes a war happened in wasteland
@sly kestrel
Who fought who?

unborn fog
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krills vs elder and their army according to the cutscene i think

sly kestrel
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Ehhh

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We have other theories on the war but

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I’m wayy way way to lazy to explain

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But here’s one hint
It wasn’t the krill they were fighting

desert sun
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we judge who was fighting who based on the shields around battlefield

unborn fog
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oh yeah the shield thing

cold steppe
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is that the two shields theory?

sly kestrel
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Yes

cold steppe
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cool

desert sun
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maybe? im not familiar with terminology yet ahaha

cold steppe
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wasn't sure if there was another theory

glad saddle
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First time in this channel and woah stickerShiny

cold steppe
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TST based on the fact that there's a spear through a shield

sly kestrel
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Summon skymii, maybe SKYMII WILL WANT TO EXPLAIN IT

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But no there’s more than that

cold steppe
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well yeah

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let me see if I can find it

desert sun
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First time in this channel and woah stickerShiny
@glad saddle welcome stickerHeart

cold steppe
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welcome!

normal berry
desert sun
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yup, we will just probably never be able to see him šŸ˜”

sly kestrel
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Well

normal berry
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I reaally want to know what they looked like now

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this is interesting

sly kestrel
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Not rlly confirmed but, we were confused on what reika meant when she said that

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The way I saw it, they were saying that he was removed BECAUSE there was nothing to save

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Like....game mechanic removed

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And based on the concepts, the eden elder was the king

normal berry
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ooh

sly kestrel
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I have plenty of pics

normal berry
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are they pinned?

sly kestrel
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ye

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Hard to find tho bc we have a huge library

cold steppe
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it's so big

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I know what you're talking about, but I'm not sure where it is

sly kestrel
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It had a lot of different models

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I’ll show u some

cold steppe
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the king prince battle would have been epic

normal berry
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thanks!

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woah, king prince battle?

spring blaze
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hey it me

unborn fog
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hi ginsy

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how r u today

spring blaze
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im doing well pWow how bouf u?

unborn fog
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oh good lord thats a bunch of pics

sly kestrel
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In a different concept, the prince WAS the king

unborn fog
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well i m doing fine, nice to know ur doing good too

spring blaze
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yep

cold steppe
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oooh yeah

normal berry
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ooh

unborn fog
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interesting to see how the devs/makers refer to the stages as acts

spring blaze
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isnt in one of the concept arts, after you you go through thw storm, the prince leads you out of the storm

sly kestrel
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Ye

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There’s a pic in Tom Zhaos art where the prince actually helps u

unborn fog
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hey wait that map says nadir and if i remember correctly that s the thing that points downward of a particular position relative to the ground

long turtle
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This.... thissss... felt like finding hidden treasure.. never been here before.. wowww

unborn fog
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and it also says atonement with the father, maybe the skykids/elders had sinned when they did that 'they didn t listen' thing in the beginning and they have to pay?

cold steppe
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I don't think the beginning is talking about skykids

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it's probably referring to the elders

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elders =/= spirits =/= skykids

sly kestrel
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If u read the concept timeline, u should know about the battle with the prince and the light creatures over darkstone
Well vault was always going to give us knowledge of the past but in this concept, it was supposed to show us the backstory of the huge battle

cold steppe
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they're all different "species" per se

sly kestrel
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But
These are all old concepts, sadly none of them made it to game

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7 years of development also means 7 years of scrapped storylines and ideas

spring blaze
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its kinda sad seeing that they have a lot of big visions for the game but wasnt implemented/develop cus of game development stuff

upbeat plume
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Where can I read all the concept timelines

unborn fog
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in the pins

sly kestrel
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There’s only one

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Like I said earlier, this is a scrapped concept but it’s still nice to read

acoustic inlet
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If u read the concept timeline, u should know about the battle with the prince and the light creatures over darkstone
Well vault was always going to give us knowledge of the past but in this concept, it was supposed to show us the backstory of the huge battle
@sly kestrel I'd like they expand the vault story like they are doing in wasteland... it'd be amazing.

zinc arrow
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i know this was scrapped but oh that explains why the elders are so eager to take the light you bring them ig

sly kestrel
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Not rlly

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We are supposed to bring them home as our mission from the intro

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When we approach them they are dark and have no life or light at all

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We bring em home by reconnecting them with the light

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And to do this, we give them OUR light

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Also in the timeline, they didn’t even make vault yet, the idea of vault came later later

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Also the city of Eden didn’t even exist yet, it was simply a mountain

hushed steeple
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I don't believe that @sly kestrel

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Something tells me you're lying

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And I can't put my finger on it

zinc arrow
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oooh the 1996 Toyota Camry car sees through all

hushed steeple
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Yes

sly kestrel
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I don’t lie on this chat šŸ™‚

hushed steeple
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||guys I think that's a lie||

pulsar gyro
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Jay how do I get a better quality image of that concept timeline?

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@sly kestrel

royal kiln
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By making your own

steep coyote
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What if what we see in those that looks like "shelves" in Vault (especially the hidden place) are actually inscription in Brail code?

urban sparrow
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Why is there a krill near the forgotten ark?

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And what is the story of the forgotten ark? What are those drawing on the ark?

steep coyote
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We still need the final Cutscene in order to understand the Ark story :3 but for now, from the murals in it, the spirits were searching for a new place to probably establish, but on their way for it a Krill spotted them, probably started to attack the Ark, thus leading the spirits to escape and the Ark to crash in the land

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As for their lights, we still don't know if they fired them away or anything else

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@urban sparrow

urban sparrow
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Thank you

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Where did the dragons come from?

royal kiln
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I’m not ready to bring back that conversationsadcow

urban sparrow
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Where can I find it?

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Please, my daughter keeps asking me

royal kiln
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Lol nobody really knows it’s all theories

urban sparrow
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Oh dear...

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What do the dragons want? Why do they attach creatures of light but not the crabs?

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*attack

desert sun
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What do the dragons want? Why do they attach creatures of light but not the crabs?
@urban sparrow fun fact: crabs are scared of the dark dragons

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if a crab is spotted under a krills light, it will hide in its shell

sly kestrel
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Jay how do I get a better quality image of that concept timeline?
@pulsar gyro it actually is good quality, u jus have to wait for the pixels to load when u zoom in

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Unless u want me to read it for u šŸ™„

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@urban sparrow sorry....we don’t have confirmed answers like that, the lore isn’t much clear to us and we only have theories

cold steppe
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@pulsar gyro you can also download the image, which ups the quality a little

sly kestrel
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No it’s actually been done already

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U jus have to wait

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And then boom, clear pixels

urban sparrow
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Thank you @desert sun and @sly kestrel

desert sun
sly kestrel
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we jus have theories šŸ˜”

urban sparrow
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Another quick question: why are the flowers called darkness? Aren't they good, because we get candle lights when we burn them...

sly kestrel
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Nope they are darkness plants

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And the wax we get from em is trapped bc of the plant

desert sun
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mmhm, remember how they trap mantas in forest?

sly kestrel
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And how some of em happen to be next to where a spirit died

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Overall they aren’t good

little slate
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Omg i don't know it can be dark šŸ˜‚

urban sparrow
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Did they cause the spirits to die? E.g. the crying one?

sly kestrel
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Nope

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They crying spirits died bc of other causes

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There’s a sad story behind it actually

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Really sad....

urban sparrow
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What is it?

sly kestrel
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Uh dm me

urban sparrow
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No, please we want to know 😢

sly kestrel
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A lot of ppl already kno

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I don’t wanna flood the chat again

cold steppe
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is this the power diamond explosion

sly kestrel
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Thas why I ask ppl to dm me

cold steppe
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you can link it

sly kestrel
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That’s.....totally different

urban sparrow
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What does dm mean?

desert sun
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direct messaging

cold steppe
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basically a private message

urban sparrow
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Ah

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How do I do that?

desert sun
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basically jay wants to talk to you about it one on one so he doest fill the chat with it again

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if you tap on Jays icon youll see an icon that says "message"

cold steppe
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click the person's name and a message box should pop up below their roles

urban sparrow
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Thank you both!

desert sun
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mhm! stickerHeart

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is this beam of light coming from the broken diamond from the eye of the storm? or is it just the light from all the creatures ascending to orbit

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i assume its the latter, because of its position relative to the floating castle thingy

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but then what of the other beam of light from the eye of the storm?

urban sparrow
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Hi @sly kestrel , we sent you a dm...

ember zodiac
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Darkness plants take light

silent beacon
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||Why do you turn into a light when you "die" on the Eden?||

night sleet
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||Because light is skykids life force, so when you die, you become light||

silent beacon
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Ow

night sleet
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at least that’s what i think

silent beacon
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Are the fallen children people who had died or something?

zinc arrow
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is this the same question from #eden-spoilers ||(who are the statues at the end of eden)||

silent beacon
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Maybe

sly kestrel
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U don’t need to spoiler tag here

silent beacon
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I didnt planted that question

zinc arrow
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epic

sly kestrel
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And yea ig u could say those children are ā€œdeadā€

silent beacon
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Oh

sly kestrel
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Have u completed Eden?

silent beacon
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5 times

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I think

sly kestrel
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Then u should kno that they don’t stay dead

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So, nothing dark to worry about the eden kids

silent beacon
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Ok

zinc arrow
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..unless u dont get to them /joke

silent beacon
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Well

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If you dont get to them

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You are blind or something

zinc arrow
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no but ok,
i dont remember if all of them break out at the end or if its just the ones you saved but i think its the latter

silent beacon
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I think is just a few

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Because last time i was there

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I saved like 30 and only 19 came

sly kestrel
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That’s jus the cutscene

zinc arrow
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you counted?

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tht makes it easier then

sly kestrel
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But overall, the amount of kids u save will all contribute to the amount of ascended candles u get

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There’s 64 kids in eden

hushed steeple
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There is 63 status in eden actually

sly kestrel
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Oh

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Well I was close

hushed steeple
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Yup

sly kestrel
royal kiln
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That’s how many there are in my basement

zinc arrow
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*claps*

sly kestrel
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U only got 63? Weakkkk

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U should see my attic šŸ™‚

cold steppe
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family friendly

sly kestrel
desert sun
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OKAY i just answered my own question about the beam of light thing

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i was exploring prairies oob are when i looked up at the eden mountain and i realized that there are actually two beams of light

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hang on

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there is one beam that more closely resembles the beam from the broken diamond, and another beam slightly more to the left

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so the light that shoots far up into the sky is the animals migrating to orbit, while the other one that stops in the clouds it the one shooting from the fractured diamond

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idk if this is new news but i just learned it myself sorry for flooding the channelpWow

urban sparrow
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Why are there giant animal bones in golden wasteland and hidden forest...what creatures are they from?

night sleet
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The ones in forest are probably the giant fish/whales from what ive heard

urban sparrow
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Where do these giant whales live? I don't think I've seen any creatures shaped like that....

night sleet
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@urban sparrow remmber the noes in begining fo wasteland and the caverns?

urban sparrow
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Giant animals don't seem to be in any wall drawings...

night sleet
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noes

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ones

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You seen the giant fish and whale like cretures in forest caverns?

urban sparrow
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The guys? Not sure what you mean...sorry.

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Oh...not sure. I'll go take a look stickerOK

night sleet
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Ok

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Thatd da whale

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@urban sparrow hope i helped, I’ll be off then

desert sun
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we call them whales

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many people think that the bones in forest and wasteland belong to them

urban sparrow
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Ah, I thought that was a mummy dragon pWow wasn't it...breaking the buildings during the end of eden? stickerHuh

desert sun
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it sure was

urban sparrow
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So...is it bad?

desert sun
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no i dont believe so

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that topic is also up for theorizing actually

urban sparrow
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It also appears on the way to golden wasteland...very interesting...

desert sun
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one theory going around is that whales aren't inherently light nor dark creatures

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but rather something different, like a neutral entity

lament barn
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Are they the same bones as on the second last level of vault?

desert sun
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the bones in vault dont have a skull, so im not sure

lament barn
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Ohh

queen loom
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Some sort of support to the not dark not light theory is that some people(including myself) have actually been able to bump into the whales

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While light creatures usually heal, the whale actually causes damage

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Despite looking like a light creature

sly kestrel
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@queen loom I discussed this a while back but

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What happens when u hit a wall rlly hard when u are flying rlly fast?

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U lose light

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U can see the whale even ascending to orbit, something dark creatures can’t do

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And here’s another way of looking at it, the whale is moving at full force and about to break a huge building in front of you, if u get in the way, don’t u think u will get hurt and lose light?

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I’ll explain it even better
Let’s say there’s a huge truck going 70 mph and u decided to get in the way and run right in front of it. Now ur badly injured, is it rlly the trucks fault and does this make the truck evil? Or is it ur fault for going up to it

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The only way to get hurt by the whale is to purposely fly right into it

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The whale has no intentions of taking light away

summer patrol
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they’re definitely friendly, id just say the poor guys size has made them an easy target for darkness : (

sly kestrel
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no

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Totally different body totally different species, whales have flesh and bone, their head don’t match and krills don’t even have a skeleton

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It’s evening for me

acoustic inlet
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I’ll explain it even better
Let’s say there’s a huge truck going 70 mph and u decided to get in the way and run right in front of it. Now ur badly injured, is it rlly the trucks fault and does this make the truck evil? Or is it ur fault for going up to it
@sly kestrel furthermore whale is crashing against a manmade thing... something there isn't exist in nature by itself.

night sleet
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Krills don’t have a skeleton? Hmmi always thought they did

red meteor
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Krills totally look like whales with plated armor tho

spring blaze
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krills looks like shrimp

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hence the name ā€œkrillā€

unborn fog
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Krill is a type of shrimp no?

spring blaze
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shrimps dont have a skeleton more like an exoskeleton??

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i think so uber

unborn fog
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I shall now henceforth be known as uber lol

red meteor
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Are they dark dragons or krill I’ve seen both?

unborn fog
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Both are valid

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Fan is krill, official is DD

red meteor
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Whales might just be light dragons then

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They’re not build like western dragons but they look kinda similar to the more serpentine eastern dragons

acoustic inlet
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fishtail fishbody fishahead it looks like a eel

unborn fog
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Google coelacanth

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@acoustic inlet

acoustic inlet
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OMG pEyes

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It's almost the same

unborn fog
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IKR

acoustic inlet
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I love that they chose sea creatures to compose part of the fauna, this antithesis is poetic.

unborn fog
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Big words stickerGloomy lol yeah

desert sun
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taking sea creatures and using them as flying creatures is actually incredible

acoustic inlet
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It's fantastic!

potent gate
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Does it means that whole "Sky Kingdom" is underwater? Like in spongebob SkyLOL

unborn fog
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Just smth tgc does like in journey

spring blaze
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they chose to use sea creatures because they were easier to animate iirc

unborn fog
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True it is hard to rig birds and such

cobalt iris
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why are we doing what we do on the game?

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collecting winged light, going to eye of eden, giving them away, and rebirthing

sly kestrel
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Our mission was to save the elders

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And the reason why we die over and over is jus for the sake of repeatability

cobalt iris
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so there's no in-game explanation for the rebirthing thing?

unborn fog
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I mean the krill is on a simple curve deformation curve ginsy so I agree

sly kestrel
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U guys can theorize but in my opinion, krills jus aren’t related to being corrupted whales at all, they are 2 different creatures and I’m confused how they will ever be the same, corrupted or not

desert sun
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so there's no in-game explanation for the rebirthing thing?
@cobalt iris im sure there is, theres cutscenes for it and everything. we just arent sure for what reason though

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i believe we once even theorized about hopping parallel universes every time we rebirth pPopcorn anything is fair game

heady sinew
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I was doing some late-night thinking and remembered I read that most light creatures were born from clouds, somewhere.
If the elders are using light creatures as fuel for their diamonds (butterflies for example) could the Eden diamond be their attempt at creating a raw energy source, that produces light just like clouds, but failed?

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And that could be why the Eden diamond is kinda wonky pFIRE

desert sun
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actually i think we've been along this train of thought before pThink

heady sinew
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I'm jumping on the 'Eden diamond is a failed cloud replica" bandwagon then pEyes

desert sun
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it would make sense looking at the power diamond theory

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i can see it pPopcorn

heady sinew
desert sun
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the intro seems to suggest that after the explosion in eden clouds spread through the land too

heady sinew
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Compressed clouds hUh

desert sun
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compressed?

heady sinew
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Like

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A bunch of clouds, all smooshed together inside the diamond

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And then it cracks

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And wooosh there they go, as strong wind, bcz of pressure

potent gate
unborn fog
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Oop

uncut bone
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Ok yeah I’m jumping on this bandwagon as well

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Seems interesting

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Oh and lore peeps, while you’re at it, what’s the lore on the crying spirit?

nova tiger
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The search tool is cute and useful

sly kestrel
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Cry spirit memory has some of the most interesting lore compared to the others

desert sun
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we got cute stories like the hero stance and then theres the crying spirit..... literally on 2 opposite ends of the spectrum

sly kestrel
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Oh yea the hero stance story was cute

sturdy gate
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It’s interesting how the darkness kills her last friend or something

desert sun
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so darkness was always meant to prey upon light

reef flax
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Spooky though if it was added

desert sun
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yea im glad we got these plants instead

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they were really gonna go for the spooky factor with these concepts

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ig they were like "wait we have kids as our audience too"

lethal stump
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I kinda wonder what sky would have been like if they kept the ā€˜adult’ aspects of the game

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I kinda wish that could be like
A DLC or something
Getting to experience the fear...the story...etc.,

desert sun
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it cool to imagine that the parts of sky we experience are just a small part of the earth that sky people live on

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who knows, maybe a worse darkness lies on the other side of the world

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i would LOOOVE to see those gigantic scrapped krill

lethal stump
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The what

desert sun
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oh you havent seen it hold on hold pn

lethal stump
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That’s terrifying, thank you

desert sun
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no problem, if i had to see it you did too

lethal stump
#

It looks like Sky was gonna be a horror game at first ngl

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Even the concepts for the Elders were freaky....

desert sun
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omg..... the devs would make a killer horror game !!!

lethal stump
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Imagine how floofy that krill would be

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Looks very soft ngl

desert sun
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it.. honestly does

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could you imagine pKrillBEAN pKrillPing pkrilleye what life would be like if we didnt have these cute emojis

lethal stump
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Nuuuuuuuu

desert sun
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but instead people making fluffy versions of those beasts

lethal stump
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I wanna draw that now

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A buncha skykids relaxing on the back of one of those big bois

sly kestrel
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Oh trust me there was a lot more than that..

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Horror game status šŸ˜‚

lethal stump
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I think wasteland is the leftovers of that horror game they were about to make tbh

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I think it’d be cooler if the realms slowly decayed as you went on...starting full of life and ending overrun by darkness

unborn fog
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we were given the vault to prepare us for the darkness of eden stickerGloomy

spring blaze
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seasons adds on to the story of the game
in my point of view, the sky kingdom slowly gets more corrupt with darkness as they add more areas

unborn fog
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could you provide example ginsy? sorry i literally joined mid enchantment

spring blaze
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alright so basically i joined when sky was a month old, so ive seen a lot of area changes for the past seasons

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ill use belonging as an example because that season gave us MANY new areas,

  • the underground cave in forest
  • the maze in the valley temple
  • crab roast in wasteland
  • the archives in vault
sly kestrel
#

U actually have a point

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Especially crab roast SkyLOL

spring blaze
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of all the realms before belonging, valley was the only realm with NO DARKNESS at all. even isle has a little darkness, hidden under the temple

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then belonging added the temple maze and we have crabs and darkness plants

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with every update to the game, it updates the state of the kingdom. its (usually) slowly adding more darkness to each realm, even if its just a little

unborn fog
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oh that makes more sense now

spring blaze
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mhm

sly kestrel
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Well I kinda understand why crabs were there
In my view, crabs are like spiders, and they are usually in dark abandoned places. So it would make sense why crabs were able to get in the valley storage room

unborn fog
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ginsy were you around when eden was ||still survivable?|| i ve heard about an old version of eden where you could

late sierra
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it looks kinda fluffy

spring blaze
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and the ark was added this season, even though its pretty amazing to see life bloom in wasteland, there’s still dark plants in the area. the magic they used primarily only affected the area around the ark, not the entire area

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its most likely for game development reasons but

late sierra
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i think id be more scared if it was the krill we had now but with the teeth of the old concept

sly kestrel
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Ahh that wasn’t a krill concept

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Krills came later later

spring blaze
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lorewise even with the magic we saw in the enchantment spirits its not enough to completely heal wasteland

sly kestrel
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Back then they were jus like
ā€œCreatures pFIRE ā€œ

spring blaze
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i mean they definitely planned to add a big dark creature in game, even if it wasnt... THAT

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much like the whale

late sierra
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lorewise even with the magic we saw in the enchantment spirits its not enough to completely heal wasteland
@spring blaze that's really sad.. i actually came on here to discuss theories about the ark but it seems like everyone's already figured it out

sly kestrel
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Have u seen the giant list of potential creatures they had....crazy stuff man
I woulda LOVed it šŸ˜

unborn fog
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we accept new theories jello

spring blaze
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yeah jello as long as you can back it up any theory is plausible

sly kestrel
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But a lot of ppl are still terrified of krill so I doubt they will add more šŸ˜”

spring blaze
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concept arts or not

late sierra
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mine's anything but new šŸ˜‚ i just came here with the adrenaline thinking "OMG I FIGURED IT OUT"

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but i think it was pretty obvious

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i was just oblivious šŸ˜‚

spring blaze
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i mean you can still share!

sly kestrel
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Hmmm not rlly, it took me a lot of evidence and thinking to get my theory but yesss share urs

spring blaze
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even if its possibly not possble, any theories welcome

late sierra
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🄺

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i think they were travelling spirits..? in the first illustrations, they were seen with umbrellas, and they looked like they were facing different weathers

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i mean

spring blaze
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i mean they definitely travelled SkyLOL

late sierra
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not travelling spirits, but a travelling agricultural tribe

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a small tribe of light people who were merchants

unborn fog
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mhm go on i m curious...

late sierra
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and they looked like they were manufacturing their products well

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so they decided to sell their products around the word since the next illustration was them having magical products

spring blaze
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oo ive never heard of this sort of point of view

unborn fog
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this is really interesting, i can see that in the murals

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go on pls

spring blaze
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the theories i always hear is mostly around scholars using magic because of their hat (the pointy thing on their heads)

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but them selling it would actually make sense? or delivering it around

sly kestrel
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Yea this one is different

spring blaze
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bc its magic and stuff

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i like it!

late sierra
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and the next illustrations there were lots of drawings of clouds and wind, and i think because of that they lost control of the ship and they lost their way

unborn fog
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i m learning so much from this convo pFIRE

late sierra
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i got mad goosebumps when i saw the next one 🄺🄺

sly kestrel
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Quick pointer
In the beginning of the season, it said that these spirits were seeking prosperity

spring blaze
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krillk

late sierra
spring blaze
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prosperity is like success

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so it can mean any sort of success

vast moth
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So is that why there are so many wrecked ships in Isle and Prarie?

spring blaze
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financial or academical success, so it works either way

late sierra
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and the in the next illustrations, there was just wind and clouds,i think this highlights the 'forgotten' part

i think when they crashed they tried to form agriculture to survive, hence the farm area

spring blaze
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well from what ive seen i think the isle boats were like cargo boats?

unborn fog
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they could have been from the same fleet?

spring blaze
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the laugh spirit’s memory in prairie shows a boat like the isle boats carrying pots up to the temple

sly kestrel
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Ehhh not rlly
Isle and praire had boats long before wasteland was even built

late sierra
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so i was wondering, well why didnt they just fixed their boat? i think they tried to

i think the crab cave on the right was supposed to be a mine

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i think they were trying to mine for materials to fix their ship

spring blaze
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me too actually

late sierra
spring blaze
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its too tunnelly for it to be natural

late sierra
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but the crabs scared them off

spring blaze
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plus its confirmed spirits mined at least

late sierra
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they were stuck 😩 they didnt know where to go and no one knew where they were, they were just eventually forgotten

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this game wild yo

sly kestrel
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Well their ship was deep in the sand, and it didn’t look much repairable
I don’t think they had any other choice other than to adapt to their environment and make a living on the hidden island

vast moth
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aaaahhh that makes quite a bit of sense

late sierra
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and the magic thing i read a whole ago made me realize they couldve used their "products'" to make the island habitable but it wasnt enough..

spring blaze
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yeah on the surface the game is pretty innocent with a deep message but the lore is very very... deep

late sierra
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that's so sad

unborn fog
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i mean that could be just part of the 'forgotten' part of 'forgotten ark' since it looked like the sand blew over it

spring blaze
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i think the smaller ships by the forgotten ark area was their fleet

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meaning there were more people than the spirits we relieve in the season

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aka more dead bodies we dont see

late sierra
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i always wondered what the krill at the boat area was doing, it was most definitely the same krill that wrecked their ship

unborn fog
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i do remember seeing a mural somewhere of a large fleet and each boat was carrying a light

vast moth
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But with all the tents, flags, and stuff maybe the Forgotten Ark area was maybe a dock? And when the storm hit they were stranded?

unborn fog
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aka more dead bodies we dont see
stickerShock

sly kestrel
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In my view I think that island was discovered before by other boats, a lot of them look far different from the ones in the mural
So I always assumed there were maybe some others who discovered the island

spring blaze
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we dont see much of a dock

vast moth
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no... wait, my idea doesn't fit with the murals

sly kestrel
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Or maybe some others who came to the island and they suffered the same fate and got stuck like them

spring blaze
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i think theyre just a bunch of scholars trying to spread the magic throughout the kingdom and tragedy struck

late sierra
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In my view I think that island was discovered before by other boats, a lot of them look far different from the ones in the mural
So I always assumed there were maybe some others who discovered the island
@sly kestrel this can also work, since the other boats were more buried than theirs

spring blaze
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maybe jay

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im kinda curious on the boat we take to go to the forgotten ark

unborn fog
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i feel like both the scholar and the merchant theory work pThink

late sierra
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that krill wins the meanest krill in the game title stickerMad

spring blaze
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is it a gameplay thing or is it also lore related

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yeah uber

unborn fog
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im kinda curious on the boat we take to go to the forgotten ark
it really reminds me of the isle and prairie boats no?

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also you can call me cambion or miles

spring blaze
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like from the murals it looks like it was the scholars that was carrying the magic, but where were they taking it? bringing it around the kingdom to sell/give away

late sierra
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yes! the boats from the isle

since it's a different light people tribe, i think OUR tribe just discovered their ship and we can now re*live their memories

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i think it's also a way to give the ark spirits freedom..

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that's my theory at least

sly kestrel
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With the krill roaming around the exit, I don’t think any boat was able to escape
But somehow our lil tour boat got smart and decided to float beneath the mountain where we can travel back and forth without being caught

spring blaze
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it sort of is in a way jello, giving them freedom

unborn fog
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do the separate boat types relate to the shields or am i looking too far into this?

spring blaze
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with normal spirits, we sit at a temple so they ascend back to the sky

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we also see the seasonal spirits in orbit too

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so they’re finally back in space

late sierra
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the boat designs are one of the reasons I think it's a different tribe

spring blaze
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miles i wouldnt be surpised if boats represent different roles

sly kestrel
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The main purpose was for pot cargo
But I believe there were other different boats for different purposes

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Remember the salute spirit

spring blaze
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yeah

unborn fog
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oh yeah there was an isle boat lodged into the shipwreck upper deck

spring blaze
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but those were like emergency boats we see on irl ships

sly kestrel
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the
D E A D B O D Y B O A T pFIRE

spring blaze
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i heard ifyoure lucky you would be able to ride the salute boat pFIRE

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its obvious that sky had way more spirits than the spirits we relieved, so theres many untold stories too

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lorewise i’d say prairie has the best spirit cutscenes because it showed a lot of their day to day lives

late sierra
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this game is amazing pFIRE

sly kestrel
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They were happy.....šŸ˜”

spring blaze
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man they were happy pCry pCry

late sierra
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also did anyone else had the forest temple vibes when they visit the wasteland?

unborn fog
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oh yeah

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in the upper swamp

spring blaze
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like the first room with the krill?

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definitely

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its practically the same place but broken and dirty

unborn fog
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i tried mapping it out and it looks identical

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yeah like the roof fell off

spring blaze
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yeah

late sierra
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that's why i thought we mightve just been visiting the same places but in different timespCry

spring blaze
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there’s definitely theories on that

unborn fog
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i was trying to think since the forest temple was gated to lead to the civilization maybe the graveyard and battlefield were also another great civilization tho there are probably theories on that

spring blaze
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im on the ā€œthe realms coexisted/are separete realmsā€ side though SkyLOL

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i really wanna know more about the battle in waste

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the common theory was a civil war

late sierra
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can you explain @spring blaze ?

spring blaze
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there’s that huge battle scene in front of the wasteland temple

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2 shields, 2 weapons, barricades placed

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i want to know more about it but the evidence sort of threw people off

unborn fog
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i feel like it wasn t civil war per se but competition for resources since that place seems to be really industrialized

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idk honestly i just pick up any evidence i can

late sierra
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i thought they were just fighting off the krills

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damn

unborn fog
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i thought so too until i found this channel

spring blaze
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from the barricades on the ground i doubt the attacked krills

late sierra
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that's a very good observation..

spring blaze
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also there doesnt seem to be much aerial damage on the temple itself

late sierra
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but maybe they didnt know how to fight it off?

spring blaze
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i mean its still intact inside

late sierra
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hmm.. why do you think krills eventually took over the place?

do you think the krills may be some sort of weapon from the opposing side?

unborn fog
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hmmm

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well

spring blaze
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i mean the krills gives me helicopter vibes

unborn fog
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helicopter?

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the krills do seem to be organic in the sense that whales are, but they do obviously emit more mechanical vibes almost as if someone strapped armor or a machine onto it

spring blaze
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like those patrol/police helicopters with the spotlight (ex. chasing a car)

unborn fog
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i think i know what to draw next...

spring blaze
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if that makes sense???

late sierra
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ive always thought they were watch dogs or gatekeepers

spring blaze
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devs said all creatures are natural but the krils gives me helicopter vibes

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they sound mechanical, they patrol in a certain route, that spotlight

unborn fog
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jello i thought so too but it also looks like they attacked the spirits from both the enchantment and regular tribes

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i really want to get up close to a krill and record some sounds, it sounds like they have a lot of layers

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like sound file layers

late sierra
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do you guys have theories about the valley? i dont read a lot of those and i honestly dont know what to think of them

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they just looked like a kingdom who enjoyed sports?

spring blaze
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in the concept arts valley was considered the capital

unborn fog
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the only part i think of when i think of valley is the elder, but i have a few

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oh i thought eden was the capital, or was that the scrapped timeline

spring blaze
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scrapped timeline probably

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hold on lemme find it

late sierra
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do you think the valley castles looks like the one at eden??

unborn fog
spring blaze
unborn fog
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ive never paid attention to eden since i m too busy dying but i feel like it does resemble it a bit

spring blaze
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if u zoom the text under sunset you see capital

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i still think valley is the capital of the kingdom

unborn fog
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i agree that at the current state of the kingdom it is

spring blaze
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and since its all shiny and sparkly and fun, im guessing its the more non-serious, funner side of the kingdom

late sierra
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it seems like it

spring blaze
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like its focused on athletics, while the ofher realms focused on producing something

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valley is more of the city than anything

unborn fog
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i find it hard to believe it s a city really it doesn t look like there were many living/house structures

sly kestrel
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also did anyone else had the forest temple vibes when they visit the wasteland?
@late sierra thats bc they are both diamond factories !!

unborn fog
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and of course i have no idea what any of the diamond theories are stickerGloomy

sly kestrel
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And temples aren’t rlly temples the devs explained
They are simply places that are important to that specific elder

unborn fog
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yeah i mean temple is another way of saying that really

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for lack of a better word

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hmmm

late sierra
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i find it hard to believe it s a city really it doesn t look like there were many living/house structures
@unborn fog perhps not a city to live in, but mostly the "king's area"? where people just gather and watch sports or sumn

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idk im not creative lmao

unborn fog
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that s literally how i see it yeah

sly kestrel
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It’s a temple for us cuz we meditate there
But it wasn’t built as a temple

spring blaze
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theres actually a lot of housing

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hold on

sly kestrel
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Get what I’m sayin?

unborn fog
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yup, thanks jay

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and when you say diamond are you referring to the diamonds like the ones in the vault elder cutscene

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i m sorry i m new to lore

sly kestrel
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Ahhh that’s a huge convo

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Uhh dm me for diamond explanation

late sierra
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im new too so i have a lot questions zbzjdj

unborn fog
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newbies unite SkyFistBump

sly kestrel
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Pre launch beta anyone?

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Jus me...

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Okay šŸ˜”

unborn fog
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oh ginsy is the housing like the terrace stuff on the sides of the flying race

spring blaze
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yeah

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im trying to find rhe concept arts but yeah thats pretty much it

sly kestrel
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Think of some of the small buildings as slum

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I actually have the concepts

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Holup

unborn fog
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also what purpose does the citadel have since it s just like globes and things

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oh i answered my own question

spring blaze
sly kestrel
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It’s an enormous armillary sphere that the scholars used to study the night sky

unborn fog
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reminds me of apartment complexes

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It’s an enormous armillary sphere that the scholars used to study the night sky
yep i agree

late sierra
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it's amazing how much work the devs put into this

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im surprised it's just a mobile game

sly kestrel
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Reika made it actually, maybe u should ask her if she pops up again

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If ur still concerned about citadel lore

late sierra
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when i first played it, i thought this wouldve maybe been a bigger deal if it was a computer game

spring blaze
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they worked ln it for 7 years jello haha

sly kestrel
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Well the devs even admit that if they were to put this game into console or pc, they would need an upgrade

spring blaze
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a lot of heart and soul, blood sweat and tears have been poured into the game

unborn fog
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i never heard about the game until i saw atisutori from instagram now i feel like i need to play every day its so beautiful

sly kestrel
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7 years of scrapped ideas and story concepts

unborn fog
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i wish i could donate

spring blaze
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the reason its a mobile game in the first place was because nowadays everyone has a phone or a tablet, so its easier to gain more players

late sierra
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i can tell, the game's just spectacular, ive never felt such connection with a game like this before, and ive played a crap ton of games my whole life

unborn fog
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the reason its a mobile game in the first place was because nowadays everyone has a phone or a tablet, so its easier to gain more players
that s the problem with increasing platforms, creators have to adapt to the demand

sly kestrel
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Yea Jen’s intention was to make it playable for a family

spring blaze
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plus its a game about altruism and connection

sly kestrel
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Even tho the lore was a bit unclear at first, I will always remember how my first run of eden hit me

spring blaze
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jello if you felt that way then it means tgc reached their main focus of the game

sly kestrel
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Especially the ascension omg I was tearing up SkyLOL

late sierra
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Even tho the lore was a bit unclear at first, I will always remember how my first run of eden hit me
@sly kestrel literally? xD

unborn fog
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oh jesus the puns

sly kestrel
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I didn’t intend a pun but yea that too

unborn fog
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Especially the ascension omg I was tearing up SkyLOL
glad to know i wasn t the only one pCry

sly kestrel
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Let’s not forget the hug!!!

spring blaze
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i didnt cry in my first eden run but i felt bad because i had NO idea what me and a friend was walking into

late sierra
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the hug got me

spring blaze
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so i warped home

sly kestrel
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wow

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That

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Wow

unborn fog
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the huggg pCry pCry pCry pCry

spring blaze
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and left her alone pCry pCry pCry

sly kestrel
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Ur different

unborn fog
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oh nooooo

sly kestrel
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Solo is the best way to feel the emotion in my opinion

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and u LEFT HER

unborn fog
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yeah that s why i always abandon my friends during the statue part

sly kestrel
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wAT

spring blaze
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we met up eventually but imo i think it wouldve been more impactful if i died alongside her