the orbs and tiny boat are still there too
#lore-discussion-spoilers
spring blaze
hollow pier
Is the star gate gone? Speaking of, we haven’t talked about Star/constellation gates in lore context. What are those things?! The megabird saying “no child not yet”?
sly kestrel
I was trying to get a good picture of the megabird and after I looked at it again I saw something else...
There’s 3 kid flying kids up there 👀
hollow pier
MEGABIRD: Feathers and Dandruff
The megabird sends a piece of itself down, talks to them, they meet other megabird children, meet the old megabird children (now living their afterlife) while collecting pieces of megabird (dandruff and feathers) and guided by the megabird with other pieces of the megabird (like animals and gates) until finally giving your pieces of megabird to other pieces of megabird in Eden, then join the migration back to the megabird after entering your afterlife and hugging the megabird, FINALLY we enter the megabird and give it pieces of itself before the megabird gives us feathers spits us back out to do it all again.
Plus cosmetics are megabird magic
The story of Sky from the perspective of the megabird 
(this is all conjecture, do not take this as fact)
sly kestrel
That was actually...pretty good
obtuse vapor
Who doesn’t
hollow pier
What are hearts?
obtuse vapor
😂
sly kestrel
Triple condensed dandruff
spring blaze
fancy dandruff
sly kestrel
So I’m eden I decided to go in with the chrome glitch so I can see better
hollow pier
MEGABIRB: the birb plays by itself
sly kestrel
I ended up finding more stuff
hollow pier
Aaaahh next time I get it I need to go oob again
sly kestrel
spring blaze
can i join ya 
👀
sly kestrel
Why are there statues everywhere
spring blaze
yes
hollow pier
It’s the hail area yeah
sly kestrel
Exit the game and join it real quick
It happens when the game doesn’t load properly
Well that’s what I do
agile citrus
What are fairy rings?
livid fog
irl, fairy rings are rings of mushrooms growing in circles
spring blaze
hollow pier
In regular folk lore they’re home for fairies or portals into uhm aether or otherworld of Celtic mythology
spring blaze
theres one ingame but theyre only an easter egg
hollow pier
There’s one in Sky but it kinda looks like it’s made of rocks but I suppose it could be low res flat mushrooms 🍄
sly kestrel
I didn’t see it
spring blaze
yeah theyre like low res mushrooms lol
they appear at the last 10 mins of every hr ^^
sly kestrel
The only Easter egg I found are.....literally Easter eggs. On top of a tree in forest there’s eggs 😂
spring blaze
so its 5:45pm here... you have 5 minutes until they appear in the bell tower area at prairies!
hollow pier
The right hand island, to the left of the bell tower 🔔 same island as the gate to the 8 person area, there’s also an Easter egg there
sly kestrel
AHH OK
wanton elk
@lunar lantern
sly kestrel
Didn’t catch it
lunar lantern
Ohh
sly kestrel
There’s also hidden stairs I never knew about and if I climb them it jus takes you to a chat bench......but if u climb them u will also notice there’s a BLUE SUN RIGHT THERE 😱
hollow pier
What’s the anatomy of he megabird? I thought the red triangle was the head, squares are wings and the blue triangle is the tail?
jade galleon
I don’t even think megabird is a kind of creature
spring blaze
^ i dont think so either
it looks more like a part of space than an actual creature
wind bone
He is god
spring blaze
like a metaphor???
wind bone
I don’t think it really has a specific shape
It might be able to move?
The concept art didn’t look like a bird either
It’s just.... a thing
spring blaze
it has a more bird shape but its like
.. cloud
and the megabird isnt even mentioned ingame, just referenced. so we rlly dk what it’s supposed to look like
wary prism
Perhaps the megabird refers to where the stars first fell from in the intro?
Just that vague cloud area above eden and the rest of the temples where the sky kids fall from
hollow pier
Even in those concept arts the megabird has trailing feathers, two wings, a tail, and a central mass like a bird manta space thing
spring blaze
how did we get the name megabird if the arts called it “bird of light”?
hollow pier
It’s mentioned in a different piece of concept art, in the pinned message of concept art
modest nest
Soooo how can you reach the spirit in the sky at the blue cape development office?
modest nest
I've flown right on it, nothing happens
I can't find the last spirit for the season ultimate award XD
That one isn't it?
wind bone
Nothing in the secret area gives you anything
modest nest
Aw
wind bone
The ultimate reward you get by buying out everything from seasonal trees as usual
modest nest
Oh.
wind bone
@hushed steeple this belongs in #screenshots-and-videos !
thin mica
How do you get there again?
upper atlas
go through the light gate to the right when you enter the main area of the forest. then jump on over to the central lake with the big hollow tree, then jump over to the bridge that leads to the exit. however you go to the left into an entrance, instead of forwards towards the exit
hushed steeple
Anyone know about the spirit in the dev room?
wind bone
They’re just the devs
sly kestrel
So ur telling me, one of the devs jus chills with a spear on his back with a hood on
Sounds legit
spring blaze
im sure that the devs were having fun with cosmetics when they were putting themselves haha
glossy wasp
I just peaked into this and I think I had an absolute trip
spring blaze
LOL
hushed steeple
Also imagining Bert's and Reika's convo about the bat cape actually happening in real life LMAO
humble barn
I wonder how those big statues got those wounds
sand abyss
👀 wounds ?
wary prism
Maybe it’s an intentional design to mimic the diamonds on the spirits chests? Kinda like how the spirit and elder graves have the diamond cut out around the same spot
hollow pier
The scoops are asymmetrical, it looks like something tunneled through those statues
hushed steeple
YES
obtuse vapor
||HOW DOES THIS GRANDMA HAVE A FAMILY ||
hushed steeple
I thought most spirits had families?
obtuse vapor
I mean how does she have a related family? I thought we came to the conclusion that skypians(?) dont reproduce
obtuse vapor
OH
hushed steeple
Yeah
hollow pier
So we know skykids and spirits and elders all have bodies that turn into statues when we die and release the core of our Soul Flame🔥 into a flicker of blue fire that’s out of phase with our reality (invulnerable in eden) but they can also grow and reproduce
And that Soul Flame can be reborn if it returns to the megabird
I think the spirits are close to immortal (definitely not invulnerable like the soul core), as are the butterflies clearly being trapped
And if they’re extremely long lived their birth rate would be either low (stable population) or normal, for immortals this would lead to a huuuge population, maybe like we see in valley?
What if the lanterns in vault are graves/shrines holding spirits, there’s a lot of lanterns in the new vault area, both spirit cores and the lanterns are blue..
hollow pier
I always thought the kids started the generator by lightning the lanterns around the central diamond
raw grail
Same person I’m guessing? Or maybe just two people with the same bag.
The sorry and the cry emote
sand abyss
OH?!
mystic moat
I am small brain, you are big brain
raw grail
Thanks
In the cry spirits story, that person dies. Meaning that the sorry spirits story should have happened before the cry spirits
I think so boop
Bag = luck
...unless you are stuck in a cave
Ima go find any more small things like this later
(Unrelated note) I think they added this during the update, or I’m just blind
raw grail
Yee
spring blaze
is.. that the cry cave?
raw grail
Yup
zealous sedge
Yes that’s new. I had the same thought at first. Could have been horribly unobservant but nope, pretty sure that is new. 😂👍
hushed steeple
I have seen a spirit in the Valley of Triumph and wonder if it is new? Unfortunately, I can not find it even though I have searched everything several times today
sand abyss
ah wrong channel but this week not Valley !
sand abyss
mhmm’
hushed steeple
So you think that's a season spirit?
scarlet wren
it is a seasonal spirit
sand abyss
it is!
rocky wing
Is there a list of the new areas yet? I’ve found ones in dawn, forest <3, valley and vault. Are there more? Secret area in Eden full of krill and red rocks? 😬
zealous sedge
There is one tiny little addition to wasteland too. It’s near the catapult.
Not a new area, but something that wasn’t there before.
rocky wing
Ooh thanks, will look. Need to go up there soon to get the winged light
hollow copper
You pretty much found everything already
I don't think there's anything new in Eden tho
rocky wing
There’s a lot of small changes dotted around. Eg the land seems higher in Home by the changing rooms
(Which implies earthquakes?)
hollow pier
That’s just the game being updated, just pretend that any new content/change has always been there in a lore sense
It doesn’t make sense in a lore context to explain why we have home instead of the aviary or why ice rink is different than beta or why forest completely changed overnight
rocky wing
Yeah I know, but it’s fun to try and work those things in 😉
hollow pier
Fair! Or maybe some sneaky kids stole some dirt from forest?
rocky wing
Lol, there were some suspicious looking extra baggy trousers in the new seasonal cosmetics. Bet they're smuggling dirt out in those
raw charm
Are there new places other than the new spot in forest?
thin mica
How do you get to the new spot in the forest
ripe birch
@raw charm @thin mica not the channel to ask those questions in, i’ll answer you both in #questions-and-help
modest skiff
I noticed this platform doesn’t move along with the others, and contains an unlit diamond on the bottom
At this point I honestly don’t think we even need anymore evidence to prove that diamonds basically powered the spirits’ entire society.
But another thing I was wondering about were the gyroscopes in citadel, specifically the large one.
If anyone else has noticed, when you’re flying in citadel, your wings are recharged even when you aren’t by a light source or another sky kid. After flying around for a bit, I noticed that the area affected by this is a giant circle surrounding the huge, spinning gyroscope in the center. So somehow, that thing has enough power to spread light charge covering (almost) the entire area.
I also noticed that because the circle platform at the bottom is spinning (along with the other small platforms beneath the smaller gyroscopes), that probably means that it is what is powering the gyroscopes and keeping it balanced and in the air.
This is the only pic I have at hand right now, but it shows cracks in the surface of the platform which are VERY similar, if not identical to the platforms in the library
scarlet wren
oooo
modest skiff
So my theory is that underneath/inside that platform is a giant diamond powering the gyroscope and creating a HUGE updraft (anti-grav) in the surrounding area.
hollow crane
Hey guys why there isn’t the season spirit at isle of dawn?
wind bone
its in prarie
modest skiff
This isnt the right channel to ask that question @hollow crane
hollow crane
@modest skiff oh where then ?
crimson grove
hollow crane
Ok I sea
modest skiff
I also am currently trying to figure out what exactly the golden material is that makes up the gyroscope and a few other items in the game, and my current theory is that this material acts sort of like how redstone acts in minecraft (it was the only comparison I could think of gimme a break). It doesnt generate or create power, but it can hold the light like a current.
The giant golden dome on the ceiling of forest temple is a good example that is similar to how the gyroscope is affected by the power of the diamond.
spring blaze
the there are also a lot of cracks under the buildings when you're doing the flying race
how powerful are these diamonds if theyre able to hold even buildings?
maybe the diamond power thing.. redstone-esque stuff is also underneath the stone
solid relic
in end of vault they put your candle in diamond
all power by light
they are star kids, star have lot of energy
hushed steeple
@sand abyss Your art and comics are awesome! I love the amount of details, and Vault Elder’s expression as well!
sand abyss
😭 tysm @hushed steeple !!!!!
Always wanted to do comics like this so
might do more with the spirits and elders in the future !!
small osprey
there are probably cracks in the platforms because it's old?
maybe the buildings were all built long ago and the spirits have all died since you can only visit them in eden, at little shrines that look like gravestones, or in the stars. the spirit quests are just their memories left in the world.
wind bone
Yeah all the ancestors are dead and you’re there hundreds of years after the events that killed them all
small osprey
do we know what killed them all?
hollow pier
I noticed the yawn spirit grabs stuff from the butterfly pots in the workshop (also spirit memories recharge your cape!)
Maybe the golden material is condensed/solid/converted light?
small osprey
he's getting a light snack
hollow pier
@modest skiff ^^^
humble barn
There are theories but we don't know what killed them all
What if there are surviving descendants of sky people hiding somewhere?
one of them sneaked out the other day and prepared crab BBQ for lunch but fled because they saw us.
Though I don’t really think there are living sky people left in the world (even if there are, I suppose we will never see them in game), I always love the idea of surviving descendants when it comes to a story about vanished civilization or extinct species.
sand abyss
could be like Dr Stone case where every single one of existences turned to stones
and nobody knows why
hmmm maybe maybe @humble barn
modest skiff
Guys seriously, read my Eden theory that explains most of the history leading up to the spirits’ demise.
@small osprey @humble barn @sand abyss
Search from: @inspiration-rain#0100 in: #spoilers-lore-discussion diamond eye
humble barn
I have! but I would love to read it again
modest skiff
It’s very long so I don’t want to repost it here, but I promise it’s worth it
Ah cool!
sand abyss
yeah already read it too
modest skiff
I think maybe the darkness explosion was similar to a nuclear explosion in that the effects (darkness plants, spores, etc) were stronger after the event, and slowly got weaker over time.
There have been some theories about spirits having dark plant cores, but I’m not sure how true they are. I think maybe the evidence was taken before the current version of the game
spring blaze
i feel like the dark core plants is just a way you can activate the memory. like a gameplay reason not lore-wise
^ when u already have the spirit
wary prism
it could possibly be their souls being corrupted by darkness? The game doesn’t refer to them as plants but darkness so it’s possible it’s just that the spirits have been overtaken by darkness
wary prism
Not sure if there’s enough evidence for a darkness explosion though, seeing as not all the levels are affected but all the spirits have darkness cores. I think the darkness cores result from them dying rather than some large explosion since the explosion isn’t reflected in the levels.
Dark plants growing in levels could just be there due to the absence of light? Rather than an explosion
The dark plants existed before the spirits died, as seen by the crying spirit’s friend getting trapped in one, so I don’t think the dark plants growing in the levels are from some big Eden diamond explosion.
modest skiff
Actually, the crying spirit darkness plants is EVIDENCE of a darkness explosion. How could they get inside the caves if the plants were already there? Clearly they were trapped suddenly and unexpectedly.
And not all levels are affected by the explosion, but that isn’t necessarily evidence against my theory. It actually makes more sense that the realms CLOSER to eden are more affected by the darkness. And my explanation for Valley not being affected much is because darkness thrives in, well, darkness. Darkness, humidity, and warmth. Also, @spring blaze You may be right about the dark cores in spirits being there for gameplay reason, not lore.
wary prism
Hmmm I always thought the crying spirits fell in through the top of the caves? but I can see where you're coming from.
modest skiff
That’s possible as well, actually. Hmm 🤔
wary prism
As for the levels, wasteland and forest are both at a lower elevation than valley and vault: both of which don't display any signs of darkness.
Sorry if it feels like i'm attacking your theory I just like playing devils advocate
modest skiff
Vault does have dark crabs now though
And so does valley
No actually, I enjoy my theories being challenged
wary prism
oh that's a fair point! i forgot about the addition of 
modest skiff
I think of it as us working together to figure out what the heck this game is about rather than Theory vs Theory
So if anything is contradictory, it’s important for us to eliminate those possibilities
wary prism
Hmmm we do see some dark plants out in the open though, with the ones on the bell towers in Prairie
but they do seem to usually be in darker areas
modest skiff
Yeah those are the most confusing
But then we also have the dark plants growing out of pots!
wary prism
Feeding on light maybe? Since the bell towers seem to have to do with that and the pots contain butterflies
modest skiff
Yeah thats what a few people think
But then it’s like..how do they grow in the gross death water in wasteland, which is not light at all
It’s possible maybe the spirits were affected by the darkness spores and carried them around
Like how animals/humans carry pollen/spores for plants to help them spread
We know that the spirits died from darkness because of the “statues” that we burn to release them. Those statues are the same as when us sky kids die from darkness.
wary prism
mmm i'm not sure if that necessarily proves they died from darkness though
more like they were consumed by darkness post death?
modest skiff
The statues look exactly the same as ours though
So we can safely guess that their demise was similar
wary prism
mmmm the graves always bother me when thinking about theories of the spirits dying all at once
if they did die all at once where did the graves come from :T
the fact that they're always at the beginning of the next level makes me think the spirits didn't all die at once. i think the levels were built chronologically, seeing as each area has more new tech and more advanced architecture. the spirit's graves are in the next area because while they lived in the previous spot, they forged onwards to continue expanding (maybe back towards eden?) and then died in the next level
the mural at the beginning of forest does make it seem like there's a supply chain from prairie to forest though so not it doesn't seem like that pans out
modest skiff
Oh they didnt die all at once
Some survived the explosion if they were inside the vault or other safe buildings
And also I don’t think the explosion killed them right away, but rather infected them with darkness like a disease
@hollow pier and I think that the survivors built the graves
wary prism
ooooo!
modest skiff
And the supply chain is how the spirits’ civilization worked before the chaos happened
They would carry light in pots from prairie to forest to be turned into diamond technologies used throughout the realms
wary prism
mmmm did you guys reach a conclusion on why the graves are always in the level after?
that does feel a bit like something to serve the game mechanics though, so im not sure if it plays into the lore
mystic moat
Died along the way?
modest skiff
Yeah that’s what I think. It’s more mechanics rather than lore
Also @mystic moat wdym?
mystic moat
Built after by traveling spirits
wary prism
mmm yeah i thought that the spirits moved on to the next realms to keep building and then died in the new area
or while traveling to the new area
modest skiff
No, all the realms and spirits lived in the same age
mystic moat
Or they traveled through the are with others, and the rest of the spirits built the graves of them
modest skiff
The realms existed at the same time
mystic moat
Yeah, probably is just mechanics
modest skiff
Agreed
It’s important for us to be able to distinguish between lore and game mechanics. Sometimes we can forget it’s a game and not an actual civilization 😅
mystic moat
I'm sure someone will figure out that literally everything in the game is lore
modest skiff
Haha talk to @hollow pier about that 😂
His megabird theories are awesome (albeit unlikely) :P
livid tusk
I just dont get the ending, in the end those child keep dying one by one to try to save all of their kind spirit out of the planet and reach to center of universe then reborn again to do it all over. Why dont they allow to grow up like many before them?
mystic moat
The children don't age, their only purpose is to die and save as many spirits and stars as they can
livid tusk
I just wonder if there is the ending as if the children dont have to die
mystic moat
Highly doubt it
modest skiff
Dying is actually just part of our life cycle
Well, dying and being reborn
That’s how skykids are immortal
We can choose to live forever without having to visit Eden and be reborn, but the death cycle is how we are able to become stronger. It’s like part of growing up.
mystic moat
What if, after we’re reborn, we’re a different kid
modest skiff
I think we were made for a purpose rather than being born, but we were given this gift of immortality to prevent the sort of thing that happened to the spirits from happening again. We retain our connection to the megabird to avoid being overcome by the leftover darkness.
@mystic moat What makes you think that?
sand abyss
different rebirth with different looks ( and level of wings )
mystic moat
Well, there’s nothing saying that we’re the same kid
We’re reborn as someone else with the same memories
modest skiff
And the same clothes and hairstyles?
I think if we were born as a different kid, we would go back to being a moth
hollow pier
@modest skiff @wary prism maybe our statues have the darkness particle effect because it’s just biology? The biology of light haha, darkness is just what happens when the soul core isn’t sustaining the light the spirit has stored? Or maybe it’s a defensive mechanism that incorporates the darkness in a attempt to protect the soul core?? But that can’t be right, our soul core goes free in eden...
modest skiff
Im not sure what you’re saying bro lmao
wary prism
The soul cores of the regular spirits don't seem to be able to move on back to where they first came from though, which is why we help them along
hollow pier
The bell towers have darkness imho opinion because they’re eating/converting the light that was originally stored inside
wary prism
The whole help the stars get back to where they fell from thing i think?
mystic moat
Our spirits could take control of a Moth, giving that moth the appearance of our previous lives
wary prism
on the rebirth thing, since sky kids used to get resized after doing it i do think there they might be changing bodies? not like taking over someone elses body but more like just inhabiting a new body since our old ones got crumbled away in eden?
hollow pier
@modest skiff like what if darkness is a natural state of being for light, without the spirit core to keep the light as light it degrades into darkness
modest skiff
We got resized?
mystic moat
We used to
hollow pier
I think darkness grows in the Wasteland water because it’s symbiotic, like a vinegar mother put into a bottle of wine
hollow pier
The wine stays wine but the vinegar mother is the catalyst to forming more vinegar
Or the shiny liquid stays shiny liquid unless a darkness spore is there to convert it into darkness
modest skiff
Huh
mystic moat
True
modest skiff
Also, i may be wrong but if I recall, any darkness plants that grow in water become a LOT bigger than any other plants. Correct?
modest skiff
Those 3 are all growing in water
vestal hawk
Maybe it grew after the place was abandoned?
mystic moat
There are also the ones trapping the Mantas in Forest
hollow pier
Also a big one above the crying cave, but I thin that grew from converting the spirits inside
modest skiff
Converting?
hollow pier
The forest temple plant ate the light from the forge imo
After they died (maybe even while alive) the plants sapped the spirits lights and grew
modest skiff
Well one thing that confuses me about your theory is that the plants apparently devour light while also thriving in dark liquid and dark areas
It wouldnt make sense for something that eats light to be sparse in light areas
vestal hawk
But there are plant growing on the bells in prairie
modest skiff
Yeah, that and the pots
vestal hawk
And apparently a spirit was growing them in the caves ys
modest skiff
Is the exception that is puzzling me
Well the pots were meant to carry light, not darkness
Keep in mind it’s been hundreds of years since the spirits lived
vestal hawk
Maybe there was a change in weather in the past, causing the plants to grow
modest skiff
I doubt it, given that the clouds in the drawings are similar to what it’s like now
And the spirits react to weather the same as it is today (forest spirits avoid rain, valley spirits react to ice/snow)
@vestal hawk have you read my Eden theory? Search in: #spoilers-lore-discussion from: @inspiration-rain#0100 diamond eye
hollow pier
Well in this theory light and darkness are ying and yang, they oppose each other but also flow into one another
So they don’t like the light but light will become darkness
modest skiff
Then how come there isnt darkness growing out of every pot?
Idk I think there may be a better explanation for a few exceptions to where and why darkness grows
hollow pier
Some of the butterflies escaped? Those pots were empty to begin with?
modest skiff
I guess Im trying to approach it from an ecological perspective
hollow pier
Like their contents have already been used for boats or diamonds
spring blaze
a lot of the butterflies we see ingame has pots near them
hollow pier
Isle in particular
modest skiff
Well apparently now that we see what covered pots look like, we know that every pot without a cover is completely empty
vestal hawk
And spirit memories indicate that prairie spirits caught butterflies in pots
spring blaze
practically the pots are all open with the exception of the new red-sealed pots and the ones in the prairie temple
thing is
the prairie temple has open pots around the shrine. theyre open, and filled with butterflies, but why doesnt the butterflies leave when the exits right there?
unless yknow elder powers or whatever
modest skiff
I think maybe elder powers
hollow pier
So we see darkness in caves (isle), in dark moist areas (forest), on the Praire bells, crying cave, and wasteland (around pipes and dark water)
spring blaze
butterflies arent the only things stored in pots. just orbs of light are stored there too (seen in laugh spirit's cutscene)
and possibly just normal stuff like food or supplies or whatever
modest skiff
Food and supplies wouldnt fit through such a tiny opening
But I do think maybe orbs of light were kept in them
spring blaze
they wetr
vestal hawk
Maybe they live off of light
spring blaze
were*
vestal hawk
Not something inherently physical
spring blaze
the laugh spirits cutscene, they were shown catching light orbs from the air and putting it in jars
modest skiff
Well there are crabs on a stick over a fire
So we can assume they ate
Also the table in the sunny forest
spring blaze
and practically the entire purpose of the new season lmao
vestal hawk
That's really just a fun addition about the cooking crabs joke though
hollow pier
Isle cave & forest=natural growing conditions for darkness, forest mantas/crying cave shows they eat creatures of light, the bells had light in them for the darkness to eat, and the dark liquid is darkness nutrients?
spring blaze
bringing the family to the dinner table
hollow pier
That explains everything right..?
modest skiff
Hmm
spring blaze
dark liquid is corrupted water so the dark plants are corrupted as well
hollow pier
The orb of light was originally a bird but the firework staff caught it and turned it into an orb
spring blaze
idk
hollow pier
In the laugh spirit
modest skiff
I think rather than consuming the light or eating it, the darkness acts how antimatter acts with matter
modest skiff
It cancels out, traps it, sticks to it
wary prism
kanpai has a video of it
modest skiff
Like opposite ends of a magnet
We are half darkness to prevent us from being completely trapped by it
hollow pier
I remember the laugh spirit, it looks like they stick the staff into a bird tunnel and converts a bird into an orb
modest skiff
But darkness (red stones for example) still pull at our light
modest skiff
What do you think, jiisama?
wary prism
pFFFFFFT
spring blaze
THINK ABOUT IT
vestal hawk
spring blaze
the birds arent physical beings lol theyre just normal light creatures
might as well
hollow pier
Hmm, can’t be like antimatter because there’s different reactions to the darkness plants taking light and being exposed to light, magnet like maybe
spring blaze
the little room in the cave in prairies, it was probably a storage space
stored their jars of light orbs there
idk
hollow pier
If they were like antimatter walking in dark water or getting eaten by a plant would release energy instead of storing it into a larger darkness plant
Our player doesn’t get pulled towards darkness plants, but if we’re half darkness.. idk 😐
wary prism
it's a fictional world so it doesn't necessarily have to be bound by irl science
hollow pier
I may regret this decision but I’m turning notifications on for this channel because why not I read it all anyways
vestal hawk
For all we know the sky kingdom could be bound by entirely different laws
wary prism
and the crabs don't get cooked permanently
spring blaze
and yknow, flying
hollow pier
I noticed today the vault symbol looks like the king/top of the wasteland temple, it’s the same as the design in the isle temple mural but higher res
sly kestrel
I heard that the vault was just an illusion level and that’s why u suddenly appear at a dark place in the start of eden after the vault cutscene
scarlet wren
during vault streams, sometimes devs touch on that.
“Maybe it was nothing but a memory.”
modest skiff
the whole thing is just a projection of the Vault elder’s memory
swift sorrel
If the vault was a memory, when you appear in the dark area, how come the same platform appears near to you?
modest skiff
Wdym
swift sorrel
When you finish the vault, that platform, it appears broken in front of you
modest skiff
Well yeah
Ofc that part is real
It’s the diamond that’s projecting everything, so when it breaks, the illusion breaks
swift sorrel
But when you begin the vault, it’s also broken. Unless the beginning isn’t a memory
modest skiff
It’s possible the elder’s spirit is the key to the projections of the rooms themselves and the entire building
swift sorrel
Fair enough
modest skiff
One thing I’m wondering though is what the little light particles are that float around and provide an invisible barrier while also lighting your cape
swift sorrel
I’ve only got light when I begin to open them
modest skiff
Open what?
swift sorrel
Those gates
modest skiff
No I meant the particles
At the bottom of each vault level
They separate you from the previous level
swift sorrel
Oh, those. I’m not sure. But if you jump off when going up, you do get dragged under
And the second? Floor, you can go pretty far down
swift sorrel
Yeah, it’s absolutely a glitch. I could only assume the particles is the memory collapsing on itself
modest skiff
Hmmm
Yeah I like the idea of the memory collapsing
Cause there are pieces of the building that are broken and floating apart
swift sorrel
I don’t think it’s the answer though
modest skiff
Yeah
swift sorrel
You can still see the area below you
modest skiff
The vault is the only level that forces you to move in a linear fashion
Not able to go back to a previous area
swift sorrel
Well
modest skiff
I wonder what the significance of that is
swift sorrel
Yeah, you’re right with the linear part. Besides the underground forest, in some way
modest skiff
Underground forest?
swift sorrel
The new area(s)
modest skiff
That’s still free roam though
swift sorrel
Yeah, but you do have to ascend. That’s the 'some way' part of it
modest skiff
Well you have to ascend to exit, but you can still go back
When you ascend in vault, you cant go back
swift sorrel
Right
Oh, I just had a brain blast. The particles? After you ascend, the area below you gets 'forgotten'
modest skiff
Possible
Also, I think the Vault level is all about teaching us something. It’s probably got some of the most deep lore out of every realm
sly kestrel
True
swift sorrel
The vault is called the 'vault of wisdom.' It’s absolutely teaching you something
modest skiff
So to teach someone something, you have to put them in the right direction and move forwards
swift sorrel
And you need to 'climb the vault to collect its wisdom'
modest skiff
Wisdom? Is that a different translation?
sly kestrel
It says both
modest skiff
Ok cause for me it’s called the Vault of Knowledge
swift sorrel
I don’t know about that. All I know is that it’s called the vault of wisdom
Oh! Yeah, it’s the vault of knowledge
modest skiff
Lmaoo
swift sorrel
When you enter the vault, it says 'climb the vault to obtain its wisdom'
I mistaken it for that
sly kestrel
Does anyone know what the narrator meant when he said
“ if only they had listened “
There wasn’t much explanation on what the elders did wrong
swift sorrel
When was this? I don’t remember hearing this. But I skipped a lot of the cutscenes
sly kestrel
The first cutscene when u download the game and open it
swift sorrel
Oh, yeah. I skipped that
sly kestrel
WAT
swift sorrel
They probably meant about how the elders died? Faded?
sly kestrel
Probably
swift sorrel
The elders are no longer here. So that’s probably what they meant
But now you’re making me question the wasteland elders fate. So I’ll ask about it
Is it out of bounds?
The devs either forgot to take it out of they foreshadowed the vault of knowledge
I’m a pretty recent player. So I don’t know how to answer that
If it’s still here, say it’s probably been there since the beta
There’s probably a lot more hidden just right out of bounds. They absolutely forgot to take stuff out. Every developer does that
sharp wolf
Tell me about it
swift sorrel
I need to ask. What lures the creatures of light to Eden? I know they want to get to the 'sun.' But it isn’t visible from anywhere but Eden
rocky wing
@hushed steeple Just looks like something unfinished or broken tbh. The diamond is probably just 2 triangles with a 'gold edge' texture making it look like an intentional diamond
sharp wolf
I have a very good theory that might connect with yours I’m not sure
The dark creatures are cursed to be dark and to uplift itself from the curse it would need to consume enough light, and maybe the whales are actually krills that have uplifted it’s own curse
swift sorrel
That’s plausible
sharp wolf
Oh yeah have you ever been to the skeleton place in forest?
Those are the whale’s skeleton, but they look so much like a krill’s... because it is one
spring blaze
the creatures of light are trying to go home back in orbit
in orbit we see all the mantas and stuff circling around the big white orb. they're back home in space/orbit, where they're supposed to be
they probably werent able to fly THAT high so they follow the way from isle to eden
sharp wolf
Yes and we see a manta trapped golden wasteland and killed was because maybe it lost its ways
spring blaze
and theres a huge castle in eden that's pretty much the same as the one in the intro cutscene. mantas/light creatures probably familiar of it because it's well, "home"
gotta find a familiar place to guide yourself home right
sharp wolf
Maybe the dark aren’t the bad guys
spring blaze
probably just corrupted from whatever
sharp wolf
They’re just regular people that has been cursed
Oh
AH
you know the place where they’re loads of shields and spears in golden wasteland?
I think there was a battle there
Dark and light used to live in harmony until the dark betrayed them
People were talking about triangles being like a revolution symbol or whatever
And the forest elder had a triangle mask thing
there must be others like her, a light person who betrayed the light... and when the light people captures them they curse them with a spell or whatever
Since spells can’t be only bought by spirits the spirits were the one who created to spell that set the curse on them
Hm yeah that’s what I was thinking
What if
Forest is actually a bridge from light to dark, seeing the light creatures with the dark not attacking each other is kinda odd so yeah
Idk
Or...
She is opening up the exit to our realm so we can get to golden wasteland, remember what I said? The more light the darkness consume the closer they get to uplifting their curse, what the forest elder is setting up a trap
It’s a stupid theory I’m sorry 😅
swift sorrel
I would of thought Eden was a trap set up by the elders. The mountain is natural by the rock swarm seems unnatural
sharp wolf
I’m up at midnight thing of sky theories
Hm yeah
Or they just not know
hm I’m so sorry it’s so bad
Yes
This could low-key become a movie
Hm
spring blaze
for me i think they just built their way up to eden. eden's mountain top's the closest point ingame to orbit
the whole point of sky is too bring the lost stars home
they fell before we came
they tried going home before we helped them
hence why theres cities built ny the mountains and pipes. to be closer to their og home
sharp wolf
Has somebody counted the lost bois in eden and the number of spirits in total, not seasonal
swift sorrel
Everything’s a mess in Eden though. Where do the rocks come from. It’s like there’s an infinite amount
swift sorrel
One could say that the Krill created all the rocks. Though they are smart, I don’t really fancy the idea of krill mining rocks for traps
spring blaze
tberes 63 statues in eden via pinned message on #eden-spoilers
sharp wolf
This might sound really really stupid but please go with it, maybe some of the light people were sent undercover and came back to the base (battlefield) but the light people got confused and started attacking each other in confusion
spring blaze
no need to apologize corn
no stupid theory exists just as long as you have some evidence ingame to support it
and besides.. theres a LOT of theories floating around here
sharp wolf
Yeah
swift sorrel
No stupid theory? The krill also want to return home
That’s why none exist earlier in the game
sharp wolf
Maybe they want to return to the light and get P U R I F I E D
swift sorrel
Maybe you’ll get shot down by a rouge krill sitting by the light at the last moments
placid marsh
I mean, what if the krill are dark versions of whales
sharp wolf
@placid marsh THATS WHAT I WAS SAYING AH YESS
Hm
The spirits were producing something
placid marsh
They definitely look like they could be
swift sorrel
The krill are similar to whales. But they are so much different looking
sharp wolf
Hm
I’m sorry it sounds stupid but maybe it’s the potions that were made to make the curse?
swift sorrel
There would be at least one abnormally left on a whales body after transformation
sharp wolf
Hmmm
Yes
@swift sorrel the horns you know those weird horns on the krill and whales
Go to forest look at the skeleton it’s a skeleton of a whale, but it looks like krill? You guys know what I’m taking about?
@hushed steeple love it. So smart
Maybe the whales were supposed to fight the darkness but since most of them were mutated into krills so the whales almost got wiped out
We can help each other make theories. I love this server
Yeah whenever I talk to my friends about theories they just say it’s stupid and ignore me, you guys are really nice
Finally some listens to my theory
swift sorrel
The most oppressed theorist
swift sorrel
nice
swift sorrel
I gotta finish some school work. Plus, don’t know where it is
sharp wolf
There’s a free excuse
Y’all wanna add you guys are really @swift sorrel I feel I like could make a @hushed steeple sound when I’m with y’all
trim egret
Guys I think the season spirit of prairie might have died from falling off a high place 🤔
Seems like she likes jumping around catching butterflies
sharp wolf
Fall damage does not exist in this game but let’s go with it
Sorry typing with one hand
trim egret
But maybe her wings are defective 😂
trim egret
We start from a high place, then her spirit ends on the ground 🤔
trim egret
Then she died, so her spirit is forever catching butterflies in the garden
trim egret
Grandma probably died from old age never having the reunion dinner she wanted
Cause all the family ded
sharp wolf
Oh god
Just went from sad to depressing in a very short time
I literally cannot type with one hand
trim egret
Am curious what happened to the other family members now XD
sharp wolf
Vault probably read too many books and became a worm
trim egret
There is a fog transition?
trim egret
I wasn’t paying attention lol
sharp wolf
Yes please
trim egret
Video size might be too big though
trim egret
It does kinda annoy me sometimes that the lighting changed so suddenly XD
sharp wolf
Yeah
trim egret
We have a dead whale there after all 😂
trim egret
Plus imagine all the Sky kids that drowned in the rain 😂
spring blaze
makes ya feel melancholic
sharp wolf
Hm
spring blaze
theyre not suppsed to have leaves
trim egret
Cause leaves hard to animate? XD
spring blaze
theyre literally called "cloud trees" in the concept arts
the clouds are their leaves
sharp wolf
Someone think of a theory
trim egret
Or leaves would take too much processing power
spring blaze
i recommend reading the concept arts pinned in the channel!
FULL of lore treats owo
sharp wolf
I forgot how to do pin
spring blaze
press the little arrow at the title and press pinned messages if ur in the app
placid marsh
Oh, who was asking for a clear photo of the whale skeleton?
placid marsh
I’d say it definitely has some similarities, at the very least some purposeful parallels
placid marsh
Goodnight!
sharp wolf
Nice talking to y’all
spring blaze
its a whale skeleton
the whale we seehere is similar to the whale skeleton (based on the head) and the whale we see in the new cave in forest
spring blaze
yep the whale is also near the wasteland lobby and eden
trim egret
Oh right I forgot about the wasteland lobby
placid marsh
I wamt.... to pet it
trim egret
Hardly been through the front of wasteland lobby is a longggg time
The whale might be really rare now 😭 probably near extinct?
placid marsh
Petition to start conservation effort for the whale
spring blaze
theres only one whale in the entire game
spring blaze
ye
placid marsh
Maybe the krill hunt them
trim egret
Unlikely though even how big the in game universe is?
Ohhh maybe
Or we are following it
trim egret
But it was flying to Eden though!
spring blaze
i wouldnt say losyt since we found them in eden haha
trim egret
That means it died too.....somehow
spring blaze
(ex the cosmic manta call shows a baby cosmic manta by the skeleton)
spring blaze
orbit is probably the afterlifr, not eden since we're literally dying in eden lol
no
mantas HAVE bones
the bones we see in vault by the cosmic manta call are normal manta bones
when we do a norma manta call
a cosmic manta appears
a “ghost”
rhats what i think anyway
if that makes any sense
yes
placid marsh
I mean I presume so, normal manta rays irl have ribs
trim egret
I wonder how they all died.....
It seems like more and more animals turn up ded the further in the world we go
Maybe from darkness....maybe darkness is like pollution....
And we sky humans with all our fancy tech and flying ships created darkness as a byproduct from those tech
placid marsh
Oh that’s a really good theory, I can get behind that
trim egret
And these are all light creatures.....
Maybe that's why whale looks a bit stony...
GASP! That's why the spirits are stone we have to first burn!
Petrification!
Well the whale is getting more charcoally it seems
spring blaze
note that these are concept arts. a lot of the arts didnt make it in the game
we dk if theyre still up to date lore or they changed it
trim egret
But darkness causing petrification seems to make sense....
The bird outside citadel....
Since they intended their technology to be made of dark stones....
Seems reasonable that dark plants are a product of these 'dark stone tech'
spring blaze
yeah the bird in citadel is a left over. decor :p
trim egret
Leftover from a quest? O,o
spring blaze
yep
trim egret
What's the quest? O.o do you get to revive birdy?
spring blaze
im beta there was a wuest you van do that summons a light bird at a cutscene when u finished
pretty much yeah zeals
spring blaze
pretty much
like the statues in eden
theyre petrified until we give them our stars
we also see statues before the final area too but those unfortunate souls joined the rock wind as we go..
trim egret
Oh right! The final krill area
spring blaze
i also suggest reading shira’s beta albums! theres a LOT of old lore
when you spawned in isle when you first started, there were literal dead sky kids lying on the shore back in beta
statues
trim egret
Hmmm but I wonder what was eden originally....
spring blaze
eden isnt there
trim egret
I saw videos of old Eden before....it was not as scary as it is now XD
spring blaze
eden us huge, and terrifying, and very dark. i get not being able to take pics
yes i feel like they purposely made eden scary
trim egret
Really really early Eden seems almost like a gray box level
trim egret
There was civilisation in Eden at one point....
trim egret
Maybe it's the main hub of the dark stone energy or something :v
Then it expanded and consumed all light!
But why were we, oh smol children sent on this death mission
trim egret
Maybe the place was actually name Eden lmao
spring blaze
biblically, eden was “paradise”
at some point eden wasnt the eden we know. corrupted, dark, broken
at some point it was a thriving community
idk
trim egret
Eden was also the place where knowledge first started?
Ate the fruit, get knowledge, knowledge cool, but knowledge cause problems
spring blaze
i have this theory where since eden is the highest point in game, the spirits and stuff built their homes and cities near eden
eden is close to orbit, which is their true home
they just wanted to be closer to home, so it’s like their closest thing to “paradise”
trim egret
Ah right, they were banished from the stars
The elders 'didn’t listen' or something, then they 'fell'
Probably
Or they didn’t know or ignore the consequences
They're still like. Yo darkness is dangerous, but we can make cool stuffs with it
The yawn emote at prairie, behind the two person lock door
The house of a boat maker....
Doing the spirit event causes dark plants to appear in the house. The boat does use 'dark tech'
The plant spawns near the door 🤔
That's why when I opened it, I sometimes wait around inside for a newbie to enter and trigger the spirit event XD
Don't have to do that anymore with the new update~
Seems like clear evidences
Also! In isle
The spirit in the cave by the temple (the one with the barrier)
The spirit event seems to depict miners gathering materials
And what's inside the cave? Dark plants :V
Okie laters!
This was fun~
swift sorrel
Have you guys ever wondered why you could stun crabs with your calls?
Yeah, me neither
hollow pier
Our yells have light energy in them that’s harmful to the krabs, our yells also recharge capes
languid pendant
they just have sensitive ears and we honk real loud y_y
swift sorrel
hõnq
hollow pier
There’s some text in game about somewhere“one kingdom under the Sky” or something that makes it seem like the spirits never fought each other, the swords and shields in battlefield are scattered in random groups (you find both swords and spears with both types of shields) so a the civil war idea doesn’t have much to back it up
But at the same time we don’t really know at all what happened in Battlefield
swift sorrel
I would of expected that it took place in the gilded wasteland
hollow pier
Also the krill are smaller than whales, they’re probably not related. When krill horns break off they stay as black horns (there’s two impaling the shipwreck at the break) and yet the whale skull in forest lacks the horns
hollow pier
Also noteworthy is the skulls in the wasteland graveyard are different shapes than whale skulls
swift sorrel
Oh. I never really paid notice to those.
hollow pier
These krill horns are extra big too, and extra far apart
So it was a mega sized krill that attacked the shipwreck
swift sorrel
It makes me think of the krill actually attacking each other in desperation
hollow pier
I also think that cosmic whales and manta are a different species than normal mantas and whales, but that’s just my opinion 😊
There’s also two baby cosmic whales that fly next to the cosmic whale’s head
swift sorrel
I mean, I guess? But looking genetically different doesn’t really change the animal
White tigers are still tigers. Black sheep are still sheep
hollow pier
Well there’s sexual dimorphism and albinism and whatever genetics make all black animals but I think the difference between see through mantas and white ones is an indication of a different species 🤷♀️
swift sorrel
The cosmic animals do appear ONLY in the vault of knowledge. And as a previous discussion, the vault is sorta a memory. Besides this side nonsense, I believe cosmic mantas are similar species to mantas, the whales are different
placid marsh
To be fair, the fact that cosmic mantas/whales and light mantas/whales never interact and have different ‘habitats’ is a sure sign of different species really
hollow pier
The other popular theory is that vault isn’t a memory it’s a hologram like the holodeck in Star Trek with folded space like the tardis
So while the top levels aren’t real in the classical sense they’re still actual space that can be used for storage
swift sorrel
Actually, I don’t think the vault is a memory nor a hologram. Because the five winged lights you obtain in the vault do stay with you
hollow pier
My theory about winged light is they’re portals to the megabird’s power, basically megabird feathers
swift sorrel
Mega bird?
hollow pier
ALL PRAISE THE MEGABIRD
placid marsh
I can only think of Big Bird
hollow pier
The megabird is mostly only mentioned in concept art, it’s only for certain visible three times in game
swift sorrel
Could you tell us about those three times?
hollow pier
We think the megabird might be the narrator, the orb of light/flying creatures in Eden, a model of the orb of light/megabird in citadel (also called the orrery)
But those are conjecture
zenith dome
i was always under the impression that cosmic mantas were spirits, since one spawns over manta bones
hollow pier
The three times we see it for certain are in orbit (look up), in the credits (same as looking up in orbit) and the mural in the water around the office gate
The megabird is probably in control somewhat of all the birds and mantas and why they guide us through the levels
swift sorrel
It’s a godly overlord?
hollow pier
We are all part of the megabird
swift sorrel
Also, that theory about the mantas. Jesus, you just had a wicked brain blast @zenith dome
hollow pier
It’s like a hive mind or something
We don’t see the orb of light from the kingdoms, that’s the Eye of Eden that’s visible on top the mountain
swift sorrel
Would the creatures of dark be revolting against the mega bird?
Or maybe it’s also luring them towards it. Most dark creatures flock in bulk near Eden
hollow pier
I think light and darkness are both phases of the same exact energy and that’s why we get creatures of both
It’s just the inherent property of darkness and light to form life? Idk
swift sorrel
I want to say that the light creatures could befriend dark creatures as well. Similar to the manta in the forest and how it rushes to your aid when you’re out of light
But so far, no dark creatures are trapped in dark plants
hollow pier
There might be more krill as we approach Eden simply because it’s closer to orbit, from the narrator we know that darkness was a problem before anyone came to this planet, there’s a good chance krill are space dragons
swift sorrel
I would see krill as defenders of the light. Seeing as they lurk in darkness and stand guard near orbit
Literally the last challenge before you begin to return the light is a krill
And jeez how many winged lights have I lost to that one krill
hollow pier
There’s concept art that implies that krill are just keeping wasteland and Eden free of creatures of light keeping the “holy land pure” at the behest of the ancestors
swift sorrel
So krill are employed by the elders to attack light creatures
swift sorrel
I want to know about their eye. They lose it when they miss an attack
hollow pier
There’s also the catapult that makes me think it was used for fighting krill
swift sorrel
Oh yeah. But what could they launch?
I’ve launched crabs but that doesn’t do a lot to the krill
I’m guessing their eye is their weak point. But krill are invincible flying nightmares. Those eyes regenerate REALLY fast
zenith dome
maybe it wasnt meant to harm so much as distract them?
swift sorrel
That would of meant they’d launch light creatures at them. And that seems pretty brutal
zenith dome
we do have that rocky person next to the catapult, which reminds me of the kids in eden
swift sorrel
I think it’s a statue of the elder
hollow pier
It’s not big enough for the elder
The krills eyes don’t disappear when they attack, they just turn their flashlight off because they know where we are
OH @modest skiff /KRILL CANT USE LIGHT TO SEE/
Their flashlight must be like something like sending out light (like how we yell) as a means of echolocation to feel the vibrations of where we are!
hollow pier
They’re creatures of darkness why would they need to shine light to see something, why can’t they see us normally? So I think they’re blind
modest skiff
Well what about the theory that they are manmade?
hollow pier
They definitely don’t know we’re above them because they can see us, they don’t have eyes in the back of their head. Definitely just sending us with another sense.
This is if they’re not manmade
modest skiff
Ah
hollow pier
I’ve been leaning towards krill being space dragons attracted by concentrated light for a while now
modest skiff
Hmmm
Maybe we could look back at the concept art to see if there’s anything that would support this
hollow pier
Maybe that’s why the spirits fell the first time? (And were cast away if we consider that line canon)
modest skiff
It had no eyes
hollow pier
This doesn’t look like it has eyes, and the other concept art of it shows it hiding in clouds
Where light can’t penetrate
But it can still sense us
modest skiff
Also, one time when I started the game, there was a little note saying something about krills being “hungry for light”
do you think the krills could have been attracted to the planet (if they’re from space) after the Diamond Eye explosion?
hollow pier
Someone pointed out they don’t eat winged light but they do take all the fire from our cape
modest skiff
So I think that means winged light is different from our own light
After all, we still have light in us at the beginning of the game before getting our first wing
hollow pier
If Wasteland spirits took place after the explosion like I believe then yes
modest skiff
^^^
Exactly
With the black cape spirit avoiding the krill and stuff
If the krills attacked spirits, there is no way they’d choose to settle in that region, which means they mustve appeared later
hollow pier
And keeping the holy land pure concept art might be done using something other than krill then, if that’s canon history anyways
hollow pier
They definitely didn’t consider krabs threatening
modest skiff
Do you think they’ve been there since the beginning?
hollow pier
Oooohhhhh so the megabird is a space birb of light, something that probably forms from enough ambient light and intelligence, space darkness might grow krill
Krabs I believe are natural to the planet yes
Actually
What if krabs are what the earthbound darkness produces
Like a fruit
Are there krabs in the new isle area?
hollow pier
Oh yeah, it looks like the Praire seasonal spirit is admiring flowers not butterflies
modest skiff
We know that they co-existed with the spirits because of the crabs on a spit
hollow pier
And krab spirit last season
modest skiff
Oh also, I think that the Megabird is the entire universe
And orbit is the center
When watching the credits scene, you can see how the farther you move away, how all the tiny stars and light make up the entire thing
hollow pier
Idk if the megabird is a local solar system event or not
modest skiff
We could say it’s just a galaxy
And there are other megabird galaxies out there..somewhere 😌
hollow pier
Yeah it’s fair to suggest it’s galaxy size
modest skiff
Ok galaxy it is
hollow pier
I think the megabird is a giant bubble, and it warps space to carry spirit cores to it’s horizon or wherever
worthy mountain
Ive said it so many times, the megabird IS a galaxy (where all stars are born)
hollow pier
So while on the inside it might be galaxy size on the outside it might be smaller
worthy mountain
A galaxy just like our milkyway
modest skiff
Also technically stars are formed in nebulae
hollow pier
Megabird is def part nebulous
worthy mountain
But galaxys are made of nebulae and planets and stars, lots of things
modest skiff
That pretty much describes the megabird in the credits scene yes
hollow pier
Do galaxies include nebula? I’m usually really good with space stuff
modest skiff
That’s the center of the megabird
hollow pier
It may only be populated with planets in a solar system radius, and warps space to store nebula and spirit cores
That way the planets are all close to the megabird core
modest skiff
Well I think we only see a few bits of the entire megabird
worthy mountain
Some “planets” are dark and others are full of light
modest skiff
There could be much more than what we see in the credits
worthy mountain
Yes, i think that the dark planets are further
hollow pier
Orbit is definitely a “personal realm” of the megabird like how we visit the “realms” of the elders in cutscenes
modest skiff
Yes
It exists in another dimension
That orb in the center (ORBit, haha) is a portal
hollow pier
Inside the heart of a neutron Star... it’s Orbit
That’s a space joke for all you nerds
modest skiff
Pfff
Hmmm...neutron stars have an extremely strong magnetic field and gravity. And are very dense.
Idk if that is a neutron star though. I think maybe the devs just intended it to be a big shiny space phenomenon
hollow pier
Well the core of the megabird is so dense it makes another dimension, all light is attracted to it to the extent of sucking light up from the planet neutron stars actually have the same gravity as a normal star, less typically
It’s not a direct correction, just funny to think the MB core is a neutron star and orbit is what’s inside every neutron star 🌟
modest skiff
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sand abyss
Mind if i interrupt this again but been thinking for a while, would you guys think the spirits in Valley, specifically the warriors, were trained to be part of the Wasteland ?
scarlet wren
I think they were
sand abyss
Like think about it, when looking at the character concept art for Sky, the name for the well trained spirit is called Warrior. Hence them been doing sports to be prepared for what’s to come
modest skiff
Hmm
What if someone were to line up all the spirits?
And compare them?
The valley spirits have the same sort of look/build as the warrior wasteland spirits
sand abyss
Mhm mhmm
Especially for
Red cape spirit, Pink cape spirit, bow spirit( and Iceskate spirit too if you want to include him )
modest skiff
Speaking of wasteland..
There used to be grass here
And the weird red texture on the ground...I just noticed it but it’s very disturbingly...red.
And it leads towards the vortex
hollow pier
That looks like illumination from the campfire
spring blaze
i dont think that the warriors in were trained in valleys
the arena/colosseum isnt an actual fighting arena. its just where the games are held
from the concept art it referred the arena as “theatre”
jade galleon
it's truly a theatre
nocturne sonnet
reminds me of the Romans. Perhaps they had similar gladiator fights? I.e. different classes of gladiators + different rewards (Maybe thats how the red and pink cape spirits got their capes? Winning a tournament of sorts?) And maybe even plays or mock battles in the valley's theatre ?
nocturne sonnet
Cool!! Perhaps in the future a seasonal spirit could confirm this ?
spring blaze
i hope so! a seasonal spirit in the arena is possible since there’s one in the temple lol
nocturne sonnet
Yeah :DD who knows whats next for possible lore reveals in new seasons
crimson grove
A bit late to the discussion but to add to what was being said earlier about eden and the megabird: in earlier version of orbit it could actually be seen when flying towards the light!
This is a screenshot of a video so not the best image
nocturne sonnet
:000 it kinda does!
serene pasture
Okkk so I just thought of something, out character in the game is a child of light/star child, they were born from a star...
And in some years or decades stars are capable of thrning into black holes or stellar black holes
Turning*
Soooo does that mean that a star child is capable of turning into darkness and evil?
livid fog
after several billion years*, massive stars sometimes turn into black holes when they die
spring blaze
it takes a while for stars to snuff out
serene pasture
@livid fog correct
serene pasture
But idk i was thinking about our star character might turn into darkness or so idk lol
That would be ver sad tho ;-;
livid fog
I like the idea of sky children being corrupted somehow, but the black hole analogy works will with many other things
spring blaze
we sorta look corrupted when we’re about to die in eden
covered in those dark particles like crabs and krills
grey
livid fog
for instance, another possibility from a star dying is a neutron star
spring blaze
slow moving, struggling to walk
serene pasture
But we die and cause no harm hmmm@spring blaze
livid fog
like, it kinda sucks that the lore of the game is just, as far as we know, done
spring blaze
we literally rely on the environment to piece things together
serene pasture
I wish we could interact more with the elders and their stories
serene pasture
If they have a back story
livid fog
mhm
serene pasture
Same@spring blaze
spring blaze
well sky technically does have canon lore but its not really said
serene pasture
Very little tho... i think
livid fog
all we have rn is some vague schtik about the stars falling from light and creating kingdoms within the clouds
serene pasture
Some ppl think that krills were also light creatures
spring blaze
so many things to theorize on but like.. i want a base for those theories