lore-discussion-spoilers

[celest birch]

Dawn would be birds, Prairie butterflies and Valley mantas ...

[sonic copper]

Well, there are more things to be surprised when something inside of me tells me that all of the things happening in sky (the lore), builds up to the current generation...

The plants, the things happening at hidden forest, the war at the gate of golden wasteland...

God, I should start writing that theory that always clogs up my mind.

[light minnow]

I remember that sky has a theme of representing aging
With each realm representing a different stage of life
But i don't really know the symbolism behind eden on its own so i'm curious to learn

[hushed steeple]

I found this written on aviary pillar!! Does this have anything to do with lore? What does it mean?

[narrow wave]

helo, does anyone here wanna teach me sky lore

[brave patio]

Oooo on the bells? I know there’s a lot of symbols like that in places like the bells and archives, I think they aren’t letters but are more of symbols?

[brave patio]

https://sky-children-of-the-light.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Amity206/Sky_Lore_Theories

Here you go, I’m sorry it’s so messy I’m getting ready to re-format it for when Two Embers comes out

[fervent knoll]

I don't have the patience to wait anymore

[hushed steeple]

What what does those symbols mean?

[light minnow]

Well that's unfortunate because it's not coming out any faster because of that

[fervent knoll]

sighs

I don't think it will be released even till the end of the world

[fervent knoll]

I wonder who put those fabrics on Hopeful Steward's hair, oh the enchantment guide gave them this

[brave patio]

They said pilot was supposed to be March but given we’re still waiting for steam release idk

[fervent knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-2813086212540319582

[spark hawk]

I just wonder why the Hopeful Steward never moves from the place he sits at. Makes me a lil sad to see him stuck there the whole time in Aviary Village. I also wonder if they are to add more things to the village or not, seeing as it still seems incomplete to some extent.

Also, why is the Geyser in Sanctuary Islands polluted in the first place? What got it to be in that state? I don't have any theories haha

[inland cliff]

He(might) be the main character in Two Ambers so ig that'll explains abit

[inland cliff]

Maybe it's supposed to be magic symbols that can summon light creatures whenever the bells ring

[spark hawk]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[inland cliff]

Abt the geyser, there is a wrecked ship with some bottles laying around and 2 golden-diamond shape thingy where the geyser is. So presumably a ship carrying bottles of dark water and the gold thing somehow crashed into Sanctuary island and the geyser was infected by the bottles (plus the dark plants around). But i completely lost at the geyser shooting sea urchin/dark plant(?)

Since the geyser is from days of nature, i think it is a represent of oil infection in oceans irl

[spark hawk]

Ohhh, that actually makes so much sense

[celest birch]

They apparently will and well, Season of Nesting is gonna be a thing, which I bet is to expand it.

[edgy kernel]

very small detail, but i noticed the symbol for light around the light while going up through orbit is rainbow, heh.

[celest birch]

This only means there is a prismatic effect somewhere.

[edgy kernel]

oh, where does that name come from?

[celest birch]

It's the first I've heard of the incoming season that's having a key symbol, thus I wouldn't be surprised if it's a prototype-name.

[cunning hazel]

Hello, i was wondering if there was anywhere i could look to find the story of sky? I know it's open ended and amyone can interpret it how they like, but there have also been hints of stuff happening in the past, like a war

So i was wondering if there's any document or somethinf to look at all those details and whatnot

[opaque coyote]

https://sky-children-of-the-light.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Amity206/Sky_Lore_Theories the author sent this a few messages back

[sonic copper]

Now I'm curious what motivated the war in the first place. There have been shields with different symbols scattered, the teaser showing dark dragons looming overhead, and such.

Maybe after the glowing butterflies discovery (just backread), then started their industrialization, it then caused the dark plants to grow even further. Usually dark themes like the geyser, wasteland or anything with more and more technology outside of the vault (excluding some areas), plants are more apparent there.

It could be that someone or a group has lead these villagers to work at the forest. Something tells me the word "hidden" in the title isn't there for nothing. Maybe the king got fascinated by the potential of technology, so then they set out an area to harvest resources to then deliver it to the next realm, which is called Valley of Triumph. From there, gold is more apparent than the previous realms. Normally gold is commonly found in bells and such on the lesser realms, so those golden jars may have come from far away.

Assuming from the title golden wasteland, there have been screenshots showing leviathan attacks, including The Ark spotted by a krill. It could be that the Eden was the first attack and that it is the center of the capital, then the golden wasteland being the closest to that.

The theme pollution and industrialization seems familiar to our real world. And now that someone mentioned about darkstone or so, maybe the other shield symbol team may just be the elders who have had enough of the king.

Being that he may just have been responsible for causing such a shift of balance in the world for the sake of technology, the elders had to put down the person who caused the entire crisis in the first place, no?

Now, why is Valley of Triumph left untouched from the krills? You see, the sports that happen there? There weren't much people compared to the capital of the city. Hence, it was left untouched both krills and villagers.

Seeing the children who were there before us, it wasn't the first time the elders sent out many stars to combat the crisis. Then, there comes us, the newer generation, to take their place.

It's such a grim reality that the players have to do if we were to consider this. We were sent out to battle the crisis and put spirits to rest. (If they were alive, they wouldn't be transparent or magical looking)

There is a season of shattering memory that shows elders being bounced back by the crystal. And something tells me those Eden shards come from crystals that can be seen in the Season of Memories being infected by the dark plants. Not to mention seeing a large crystal somewhere in that cave, maybe the crystals gathered together to form such a large crystal in the center?

Also, another thing that I noticed is that in the two Embers teaser, the isle of dawn was full of luscious grass. Maybe the water levels rose and drowned out the plants, then a drought came and became the isle of dawn we know today.

Another thing to take note is the piggyback spirit memory. Maybe these were the first concepts of religion, that was used as an inspiration to come up with the reason why a random child that came from a falling star (Ushering Stargazer) crash landed. And hence, temples were built.

Maybe after those offerings, they would wish for more of those children, no? They turned butterflies into potential sources of energy, they were a hero of the land, for they came from the skies.

That would make much more sense why they would make masks and capes as a respect to them. Capes being a superhero thing, mask for anonymity.

[cunning hazel]

I saw a theory where the battle would be between the citizens of GW and VoT

Because of the technology was ruining the GW and making it uninhabitable, but without the tech being made, the VoT would cease running and it would also start falling apart

And also how apparently in the treasure reef there are murals showing that it used to be a manta ray hatchery, but seemed to have turned into some sort of experiment on the manta rays, creating the krill

And the Abyss spirits were just unlucky and happened to stumble upon everything after it got shut down

So if that's true

Krill are man made by the spirits (likely those from the vault cuz knowledge) and they're the reason why everything went to hell and we gotta deal with them 👍

[sonic copper]

Yeah, one thing is apparent:

• Pollution and industrialization.
• Themes of war.
• Political ideas (supporting technology)
• Religion
• And much more.

Yeah, I think I have some form of conclusion of what the hell happened and how the crisis began.
And those things apparent? They really are close from home.

[cunning hazel]

Yeah.....and the Sky kids in a way are kinda the current younger generation, millennials, Gen Z and Gen Alpha

The world got screwed up and now it's the younger generation who has to try to fix it, even though all this bad stuff happened before we were born. We just inherited the mess

[sonic copper]

But, so far, us players, are we even doing the task we are set to do by the elders?

We tried to save people and combat the crisis, but the dark plants just keep growing back, and people get hurt further and further in Eden.

Sending blind folks into a mission where they were doomed from the start.

(Yo is there a way one can share their theory here? I mean there is Reddit and the Sky wiki, but is that all?)

[cunning hazel]

Who knows?

But yeah, it's also kinda sad in a way. Because you can destory as much darkness as possible, take down the shards, relive the spirits

But when the day is over....everything resets

Which kinda fits into Sky's theme of growing up and rebirth in a way

[sonic copper]

So, what's the point? Why are we here if saving and combating the crisis is pointless?

Are we just masking ourselves from this daunting reality and wearing capes, as we soar up to the sky to breathe in the fresh air, ignoring the ground below?

Man, it feels dark.
This is more than just aging, this is a representation of the real world.

[cunning hazel]

Because it's still our world. It doesn't matter how hopeless it may seem

We continue at the task because it's all we have, and hope is a very resilient thing. It's hard to geninuely destory hope

[sonic copper]

Well you tell me, why are people so focused on cosmetics instead of saving the world?

Why is there a dash hint of classism in this place, when we all came from the same sky?

Why do we bother to stay in that world if our mission is to save the world?

It was supposed to be 'simple and easy', just focus on the crisis and maybe the dark plants would've stopped growing.

But no, we need them for those Gucci cosmetics ya know?

[cunning hazel]

That is because video game mechanics

[light minnow]

Yeah in game we can't really save the world
Nothing we do really lasts except season quests

[cunning hazel]

Same reason why blood moons exist in BotW and TotK

They're monsters that you need to defeat, but you need a way to get an unlimited supply of their 'drops' to progress

[sonic copper]

I get that it is our world (if we ignore the fact that we came from the sky), but if this is supposed to be our home, then why are we so focused on things not relating to fixing an issue?

Set aside game mechanics, we know this is a game. But if we take it literally lore wise, why bother? These are digital currencies, pixels in the screen.

"Once a moth, always a moth..."
(Btw, can I dm you? @cunning hazel)

[cunning hazel]

But we can save the spirits
We may not be able to save the entire world, but we can save those still in it

[light minnow]

Which people do so yeah

[sonic copper]

Then scrap saving the world, save what is left basically.

If we can't save our homeland, save our people (ignoring the fact we came from the sky again)

[light minnow]

I mean
It's hard to say sky kids are more focused on something than something else
Because we never see sky kid behavior that isn't directly influenced by game mechanics

[sonic copper]

And besides, people just save spirits nowadays because they offer cosmetics or help progress to events or areas.

[cunning hazel]

Yeah, there's always has to be a balance between story and game mechanics

And often the story is made afterwards to justify the game mechanics

[light minnow]

You can't really apply player behavior to lore and say we are vain, when the game literally doesn't have anything else to do after the spirits and quests are done
Like
It's either that or simply leave the game because no more content (personally i went with option 2 here)
Alternatively you can spend time with friends but there's not much to do

[sonic copper]

I suppose.
Man, it's just depressing, that's all.
😔

But hey, it is just a game after all. The story is beautiful, and that's one of the shining qualities of this game.

[light minnow]

Most moths start off trying to save the world
Then they realize they can't so they look for whatever else they can do, or leave

If we had been given the option to save eden, i'm sure most long time players would have done it

[cunning hazel]

I studied narrative design in video games for a long while and we're lucky that we have environmental storytelling, or storytelling at all that doesn't seem rushed and is thought out

Writers for video games tend to be brought on near the very end of the creation of a game where they can't influence much, and they have to work around already established mechanics instead of being able to work with them or change them

[sonic copper]

Ooo, you studied them? I'd like to know more about it from you (maybe because I'm bored having videos or websites telling me)

Is it alright if I can DM you?

[cunning hazel]

Sure

[hushed steeple]

Oh i actually needed a real answer 😅 and the meaning of symbols. I thought anyone here knows about it. ^^

[graceful parrot]

Does anyone know if anyone has made a sky lore video yet? Like fnaf lore videos that are like hours but it’s sky instead? Like I know nothing about sky lore but I want too lol

[brave patio]

https://sky-children-of-the-light.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Amity206/Sky_Lore_Theories

I promise I’m gonna update this soon but it’s got as much info as I can find 👍🏻

[graceful parrot]

THANK YOU

[versed mirage]

I honestly hope the wiki moves away from fandom… the site is so laggy…

[celest birch]

Just remember, @sonic copper , that many Sky themes cam be found in its spiritual predecessor, Journey, as well. Maybe it contains some answers you're looking for as well.

[gray python]

has it really occurred to anyone that it just seems like a purely water planet once we leave the atmosphere of the place and ascend,or just go into areas with lots of water,and never actually see alot of the ground? sure theres areas with alot of ground n other stuff,but all i have actually gathered up from these open water spaces is,well,nothing

[soft timber]

To me, it seems like we are only experiencing a part of the planet at all since it is the Kingdom of Sky we are exclusively focusing on. We are getting more areas that are more land per say, but I wouldn't be surprised if the rest of the planet is just water

[gray python]

nevermind,i take that last bit back

(very sorry if it’s faint,this is where i could get it most visible)

[kind cradle]

yes actually ur right, if you look at most OOBs below them it's just water

[ornate compass]

If this is exclusively the kingdom of Sky, then how much water estimated is there on Sky’s world? Are we gonna get another season that is just flooded? Did whatever happened cause the different parts of the kingdom of Sky to develop differently from each other?

anyways I find it funny thinking these new seasons just either come from the skies or rise up from the endless ocean

[tough sky]

I was on the wiki thinking about the time when someone came in this channel to ask about the link between the Lightseeker and Assembly spirits
And it led me to the article about Season of Assembly from when it came out

I thought it was really interesting and I wonder what it means

Is it just a fun fact and we're not really supposed to look into it further or does it have some importance?

I couldn't find anything on the official website, the earliest article available (if it wasn’t the first) is for Season of Enchantment
But the wiki does say that the Lightseeker spirits are based on the Hidden Forest

So that's interesting

Maybe the Assembly Spirits really are descendants of the Lightseeker spirits
Their masks are really similar especially the Guides', they both have the symbol of their season on it
And the Scolding Student cape looks like the Lightseeker capes as well

I found an article about Season of Lightseekers from when it released on the tgc website
It doesn't say anything about them being based on Hidden Forest (although they are of course associated with trees, being a major part of last year's days of bloom event and being at the trees during the daily quests, there are also two umbrella coming from the season, one of them being the Ultimate Gift)

If anyone has a source for the claim that they are based on Hidden Forest, please tell me

[rich plank]

Does anyone have any idea what this thing is?
I’m guessing some kind of eel, but Is it a light or dark creature?
It doesn’t give light but it also doesn’t hurt, so maybe it’s a dark creature but like those special docile crabs?

[hushed steeple]

it reminds me of the friendly white serpent in the reef, maybe a juvenile version?

[tough sky]

Where is it?

[rich plank]

Prairie peaks, where the lilies are

It doesn’t produce light or hurt so idk what it is other than a docile dark creature eel

[tough sky]

OK

It looks like a dark creature with the armor thing so I guess it is like the docile crabs

But also
I won't say more than just that but I have seen something in the beta for Days of Nature so there is chance that we'll come back to this topic later

Or maybe something will happen with in the later phases of the Days of Bloom too

For now, I think it's a docile dark creature like the crabs

[brave patio]

This could also be since it’s easiest to stick a water layer below things 🤷

[tough sky]

You're the one who wrote the lore blogpost right?
I have a quick question
You mention the Valley Priestess not being canon and I was wondering who you are talking about, is it Dreams Guide? Or someone else?

[brave patio]

Oh I was gonna put a link to that one, there’s some people who are hardcore believers in her. She was the valley elder in concepts before the twins, though she isn’t canon anymore there is a fair amount of fan art of her and she’s got a small following with a bit of lore to back up their theories so I decided to include it as a side note

[tough sky]

Oh ok
Thank you

[narrow wave]

Thank you :D

[brave patio]

Discord / skybot won’t let me send the explanation link 😔 scroll down to the Valley section here and there should be a link that explains it:

https://sky-children-of-the-light.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Amity206/Life_Before_the_Storm

(Old Sky lore blog that I’m going to merge with the main one)

[tough sky]

Thank you
I read the post and it was interesting
I like the idea of her but yeah I don't think she's canon anymore
We'll see maybe the artbook will say something about that

[soft timber]

It really depends on the size of the planet, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's just an Earth sized planet that is almost completely water

[lucid bridge]

Looks like the rain isn’t harming us, so that confirms the rain in the Forest is polluted somehow and good old fashioned rain isn’t harmful.

Also the ghost eel is back and not a ghost! Nature is healing!

Lastly, Sky kids are confirmed immune to lightning. Lol

[lucid bridge]

Rn it looks like the ghost eel from Treasure Reef, but alive instead of a ghost.

The one in the Treasure Reef is translucent and appears to be larger.

[raw moon]

why is this event giving us more lore than like some of the seasons lol the non-light-draining rain (the theory of Prairie Peaks being so "wild" and untouched that rain isn't toxic), lightning immunity, are the bloom guides triplets? (they went missing this year 👀), weather cycles (the river rising and peaks experiencing bloom)
ik a lot of that was established by the moments season, though
OH AND THE FISH LIGHT CREATURE

[lucid bridge]

I know, right?!

This leads me to speculate about the eel’s ecology.
It appears in both (what I assume to be) saltwater and freshwater environments. Maybe it goes in between these different environments throughout its life cycle, acclimating to both, like the salmon of our world. Or, perhaps salinity isn’t something that Sky creatures need to worry about. Perhaps, salinity doesn’t even exist in Sky’s bodies of water? That last one might be a little out there.
Secondly, is it a light creature or a dark creature? It looks like a light creature with some dark creature elements. To me, the stony structures on its body reminds me of the whales and elder mantas and their external facial plates. This sort of goes into my theory that (almost?) all of the creatures in Sky are light creatures to some degree, because Light is what gives life in this universe and all creatures must eat light. To put it succinctly, I think that if you were to cut open a crab you’d find light inside.

Okay, so this last theory is a little out there, and it’s not very well organized. I’m sort of just spitballing here. I call it the honeydew theory. Hear me out:
There are three creatures in Sky that drop light behind them that you can collect. You might see where I’m going with this.
These three creatures are the manta in the Flight Paths, the turtle in Sanctuary Islands, and now the eel in the Prairie Peaks. These are all light creatures, ostensibly. They don’t attack the player. But I believe that these light drops they leave behind are waste products, little pieces of light left undigested by the creatures who secrete them. That means that they had to have eaten some sort of light creature in order to break down their light bodies in the first place.
But if they don’t hunt the player, what are they eating? The plants (not dark plants)! Plants are light creatures too! And so I think the eel and the turtle and the manta eat light plants as [part of] their diet! And by collecting these lights they leave behind were basically picking up their um… turds.
It’s a goofy theory but it activates my spec bio neurons. If you have thoughts on this please share

I spend too much time thinking about the sky world.

[celest birch]

I mean, we do have "Light Bloom", which are tree mushrooms in HF and the underwater plant-thingies in Treasure and Crescent, thus can be legit. Even though the little eel isn't the one leaving behind a light trail, it's the biggo Abyss Eel.

Also, Skykids being immune to lightning kind of gives validation that they're golems with fire-like starlight-souls if you ask me, as lightning is energy just like light and fire, only of electricity and thus really fast.

[tough sky]

The rain in Forgotten Ark doesn't hurt us either

(Nevermind I was wrong, I didn’t realise I had the umbrella)

[tough sky]

I just spent five minutes following it
I don't think the eel in Prairie Peaks is a light creature
It doesn't recharge your cape nor does it drop light

OK I just verified, the eel in Treasure Reef doesn't recharge your cape either so the only difference is that one drops light and the other doesn't

[lucid bridge]

There are some birds that don’t recharge your light… idk what that makes them

[celest birch]

Where?

[red meteor]

Can I ask smt? I am hella new to all the lore, but I heard some things and I want to clarify. So in the trials there is a lot of murals that share some lore about someone who concured all elements and became the king and it all points out to some short of eden's elder, also I heard it's because of him taking everything for granted and taking without giving anything that all this darkness has spread and everything got corrupted, is this true?

[versed mirage]

We aren’t sure. I saw it more as the prince, given the art looks similar to another mural where the Eden shard is.

[red meteor]

But this is the speculation right?and is his name prince Alef

[versed mirage]

I don’t know? I’ve never seen anything confirm the name or even if he is the prince

[light minnow]

the name is from concept art, it's unused by the game but commonly used by the community

[tough sky]

The canon answer is: we don’t know

The actual answer is: we assume that the murals in Prophecy Cave do represent either the King or the Prince

[red meteor]

Tysm!

[celest birch]

Speaking of the Peaks eel, its noise is the same as the Treasure one, only higher pitched. Juvenile?

I do also find it really interesting that we Skykids act like batteries when it comes to lightning.

[gray python]

i wanna join whatever topic its about but i know nothing more than just trying to figure out elders and realm stories.

[celest birch]

(aka having our wings recharged)

[tough sky]

Probably? It is smaller and they look the same

Also, same with the lightning

[celest birch]

Really makes me wonder what kind of a life cycle this thing has. x3

Can totally imagine this might mean that Skykids being golems with starlight inside their earthen/clay-like bodies could potentially be a thing.

[gray python]

reminds me of the part in eden where you just sizzle up and turn into a statue

[crisp socket]

Hey guys, I have a theory:

Red candles are made from the darkness.

Here are some things to back it up:
dark plants, as well as black shards, provide wax when burned. The only “non-darkness” form of wax provided would then be candles?
Coupled with the fact that candles share almost the same color as red crystals, it seems a connection can be made.

Probably another interesting fact to consider is that white candles usually don’t yield wax. If the coloration of candles doesn’t have any role in deciding that they provide wax or not, why would white candles— those which do not have the same coloration of red shards— they should provide wax nevertheless.

Perhaps wax is a darkness-only trait.

[gray python]

hm.

[gray python]

then again i have a question,how were the red candles made?

[crisp socket]

Probably fashioned from dark crystals?

[cold sparrow]

considering we have the candlemaker spirit in dawn, and prairie's bells are largely powered by candles and we don't really see much darkstone technology around there, candles are implied to have been the main 'power source' before darkstone technology

if they were made with light from light creatures, it has been resourced humanely from light creatures (i.e. collecting the light that light creatures naturally shed, as also seen in the memory of one prairie spirit)

[gray python]

i like to think it to as being specialized candle makers in this theory just looked at dark shards and said “man. lets make a candle out of that thing”

[crisp socket]

One more thing, however:
The candlemaker spirit fashions white candles: it’s heavily implied that this spirit teaches your skykid how to make candles in the first place: the candles that the spirits hold are sharing the same models of white candles that your skid receives.

Red candles, however, have unknown origins. They could very possibly be made from red shards, as they yield wax, which is a darkness-based trait. However, it’s pure speculation at this point.

[celest birch]

Do wonder why some non-red candles yield wax then like one of the 3 beside one of the Memory Trees and the "honor candles" in front of Wasteland and Vault Elder shrines.

[cold sparrow]

also the ones in front of the dreams skater's statue in the colisseum

[celest birch]

Also, red shards generally give us wax for ascended candles while it's black ones that give us plain wax. Hmmm ...

[crisp socket]

Those could very possibly be just written off as game design errors… If those 3 candles give wax, but the other three don’t, it’s probably assumed that they don’t…

[cold sparrow]

I don't see enough reason to assume the red candles are different from white candles. They're ultimately just a gameplay element and I suppose red candles tend to stick out more in the landscape.

[celest birch]

Mostly, but it's fun trying to lore-jusrify game elements and given how black shards could be seen as cooled reds, maybe the red candles are made from the cooled innards of black darkstone shards?

(with "cooled", think around a temperature of moldable wax, which is just above room if you ask me)

[gray python]

i just looked at the trailer. holy moly.

[celest birch]

Exactly, since under that kind of stress, flesh would just be eradicated ... and this could sort of be supported as well via darkness crystals growing on your extinguished form as well as more wl is lost.

[gray python]

mhm

[celest birch]

As the other place we see darkness crystals (kinda) is Prairie Peaks and they're mostly found on rock.

Thus yeah, still pretty certain that Skykid/s as character/s aren't as human as we think at all, but just humanoid ... something.

[crisp socket]

What I find interesting, though, is that darkstone tech did exist: in Candlemaker’s memory, we see him sending off a darkstone-powered boat.

[gray python]

i mean. we fall from the sky..and ascend into space again.

[celest birch]

Which definitely has a connection with Winged Light as well as Elders themselves due to them also having a crystal on their chest.

One can also barely see a rhomboid-like shape around their chest crystal as well when wearing default outfit as well, almost like they too are a form of an Elder (thus confirming that they fell from the sky as well like Elders presumably did as well), only as a child.

That form, in my speculation, being a form of the King himself.

[lucid bridge]

Ok now I’m wondering where the Ancestors got wax from. There are many different sources of wax. You can get is from oils from animals, plants, and even minerals - but, on earth, mineral waxes typically aren’t used to make candles. But who knows, maybe it’s different in the sky world. Where did the ancestors get their wax from?? Sky bees? There isn’t an answer in game that I know of lol so this is all just speculation

ARE there Sky bees?

[light minnow]

Plot twist
Sky kids are supposed to be bees but they have no flowers to throw themselves into

[crisp socket]

Lore-wise? Probably from dark plants, as almost all wax seems to be derived from darkness. Refer to dark plants, black shards, candles, debatably…

[lucid bridge]

OMG that makes so much sense!

[tough sky]

It's really interesting but I believe wax is a fanterm and the original name is light or something like that
Also we can get wax from other sources like Grandma's cakes and the eel in Treasure Reef

[crisp socket]

I’d consider social light to be completely different to wax…

The eel I can’t explain, but it’s possible that grandma’s cakes are darkness-based, as they play the same sound as a burning dark plant.

[tough sky]

I can't see Grandma trying to feed us darkness
But maybe the water she uses is polluted and she doesn't know it

[trim hatch]

I think more things than we realize in Sky are actually made of Wax! Lol, but also; I do feel I could weigh in a little bit about the Eel and Turtle, but I hope it doesn't come across gross...

[light minnow]

Do we count event wax with like dragon fireworks and stuff?

[trim hatch]

Candles can be made of different things besides Wax. It's not really clear why we collect Wax, but it is clearly for forging candles. If the Eel (for instance) secretes some kind of flammable fish oil that could be condensed or congealed or something? Idk that much about fish! but I know you can make candles out of oils.

[trim hatch]

Oh, this actually helps answer a question I had about it, but the answer I've come up with is kinda backwards from the way I was thinking!!!

It's all about water.
Grandma's Cake isn't necessarily made of the same stuff as Dark Plants, or using bad water. They're just moist and delicious like a cake should be. The reason they sound like Dark Plants melting is actually the other way around; Dark Plants sound like them. Because they're not only Dark; they are also Plants. Which contain water. That's why they pop with a sort of squishy fizzle. It's moisture being boiled away as the cell membranes burst.

[tough sky]

I love that idea so much

[stark knoll]

I think that the spirits of Season of Passage may have mental impairments. Overactive Overachiever could have a case of perfectionism or they could also have impostor syndrome. Oddball Outcast could have avoidant personality disorder. Melancholy Mope probably has a case of anhedonia or they could just have depression. Tumbling Troublemaker may have antisocial personality disorder. I think that based on how these spirits act, they may have mental impairments.

[spiral vault]

Possibly, but there are better words to describe it

[brave patio]

^^^

[lucid bridge]

I think they’re just kids

[crisp socket]

I don’t believe they have mental impairments, per se, but they certainly have insecurities, which seems to be more of a story element that gives the spirits character.

Take for example, the TLP spirits.

[fair hill]

Does anyone know why we specifically need Candles or light when we talk in sky?

Like for example The bench with the candles or the fireplace in golden wasteland.

[sturdy geode]

I defs agree, I love sky for that. It shows many different themes while telling one story.

[versed mirage]

It’s trust. Sky functions on a trust system of sorts. It’s why sharing your candle with someone else is the first step. It’s like trying to start a conversation. Becoming friends is an investment in that trust that you choose how you want to cultivate it by buying higher things on the tree.

[fair hill]

Ohhh

Thank you for that!

[spiral vault]

It's probably similar to lighting others with candles

[echo anchor]

did you guys notice this ? I can hear ppl talking/screaming but the sound is from the tree , i mean that’s actually weird

[versed mirage]

That actually sounds like the office portal a little…

[wheat token]

Where do spirits from seasons come from? Why are they like normal skykids but taller?

[cobalt belfry]

hey ! i dunno if this is the right channel to post this in but i was bored so i made a little chart with all the classifications of skykids in my opinion ! hope this doesnt offend anyone lol, i just thought it was a neat idea and would be cool to discuss w someone !!
1 - Moth: people who have just opened the game, classic beginner attire
2 - Novice (nov): players who have been playing for a few weeks/months, some upgraded cosmetics, and basic knowledge of the game
3 - Intermediate (med): people who have been playing for a year or more, know cr/wl routes, upgraded cosmetics but nothing before Aroura (unless ts)
4 - Veteran (vet): been playing for 2 years or more, own rare cosmetics, has extensive knowledge of the game and has guided many new players, nothing before Dreams
5 - Grandmaster (master): been playing since Enchantment or earlier, own season ults or rare cosmetics, know everything about the game, likely have taken breaks from the game before, respect !!

[celest birch]

Kind of like any classic story of life, as in life, we do have different themes as well. :D

[soft timber]

appears It is speculated that Skykids are made out of an earthen material, such as clay, wax, or stone. Plus there are times where Skykids survive falls and smashing into things that would otherwise kill normal flesh based creatures. It is still unknown exactly what a Skykid is made out of, but it is definitely not 'flesh' like how humans and our animals are made out of

[celest birch]

I do wonder where does wax come from when it comes to Days of Color (anyone that went through this, please tell more! :) ).

[soft timber]

Probably the same source that wax for candles come from, mostly either from saving up throughout the year or gathered in larger quantities

[celest birch]

Exactly and honestly, I´m definitely on a suspicion that their physical form is either clay or rock, making them sort of like the golem.

[celest birch]

I did hear that the rainbow of it auto-generates wax of specific colors, thus really interested about it.

[soft timber]

It does make even more sense as we don't start moving until we are given a power source, such as Light, and after a while we stop moving completely when it does run out

[celest birch]

Yus, as well as this answers why would we recharge when being inside fireplaces/candles ... or lightning even as well as being immune to fire + electricity damage.

[soft timber]

Surprisingly, there is no gif of a Skykid being struck by lightning yet lol

[celest birch]

As for capes, that is actually easy to answer; if we look at the Skykid˙s shadow in sunny places, their shadows are missing their capes. It´s literally made of light/winged light. 🤭

[soft timber]

Skykids using light to live confirmed, more at 9 lol

[dire night]

I doubt the physical form is clay. I just think its fairy tale logic where you dont have to think about it to hard. Sky kids are just stars that gained a physical form, while winged light are the souls of the skykids.

So while i like the golem theory cause i like any golems in general, i doubt thats what the skykids are. Skykids are more akin to gods or demigods than they are golems.

[tough sky]

Similar thing
We don't know, maybe Ancestors were immune to falls as well
I like the golem idea though, just not that specific argument for it and I think they don't need to eat or drink to live
But they can definitely do it if they want

[hoary ingot]

Hey, guys, wasn’t the series supposed to be coming out this month??

[edgy kernel]

I dont think it was ever really confirmed

[tough sky]

I believe we were supposed to have more info this month

[tough sky]

I found that

[ornate compass]

Around March, so maybe could be April Fools

still, hopefully it’s coming soon.

[cobalt palm]

Lore thoughts on lightning, as it recharges us, I wonder if our honks are some form of electromagnet pulse, which could also explain why they flip crabs.
So when we are charging up a large honk, we are actually building up electrical charge that we release all in one go.

[dire night]

Cool but doubt

[brave patio]

Maybe since it’s plasma like fire? So it’s close enough to fire idk

[tough sky]

I would think that it's the light from the lightning

[versed mirage]

Would lighting from Eden do the same?

[hushed steeple]

I love the word large honk

[hushed steeple]

well it could be coming from the shattering diamond or the storm produced by it, and that could be negative energy for the sky kids because of its source

[trim hatch]

Energy is actually a very difficult concept. I usually end up talking about Einstein's Theory of General Relativity when it gets mentioned! But I think it's important to remember that ALL ENERGY is basically the same thing.

E=mc2

It's just movement. Light is made of Photons which generate energy when they collide with solid matter. Heat is just Thermal Energy; the vibration of atomic particles brushing against eachother. (Anybody here know what FIRE is actually MADE OF!?) Even the Electricity in your walls is governed by the movement of oscillating particles that make up the copper wire...

Now, all this is trying to apply very real world physics to Skydom; which I understand isn't something everyone wants to do here, but it's EXACTLY the kind of mental gymnastics I like to play. So you'll have to forgive me for going on...

I could talk a LONG TIME about Skyd biology and what I think it would mean to be a Photon-Based Lifeform, but for now it will have to suffice that I say we live on energy; in the simplest terms. There are ways I think this applies to things like Honks and Crabs and Lightning Bolts, but the storage, consolidation and RELEASE of energy are a fundamental aspect of all our processes.

WHEW
Hi Lore chat, I missed you.

[cobalt palm]

That's a good point, mass is also energy, so even our (if it is) rock / clay body could be formed from an extreme energy event

[spiral vault]

Seasonal spirits are the same as regular spirits. All spirits are an entirely different species than skykids

[spiral vault]

It will probably release around late April, in my opinion

[spiral vault]

Your text walls are scarier than my shards

[grizzled owl]

Hello guys! I was wondering why Sky kids eyes glow when they have a mask on and they have a fire based energy, yet when you take the mask off their face is dark?

[spiral vault]

The dark face could just be what they're made of

[trim hatch]

My theory is that the mask is essentially welded to our faces. There's no strap or anything, and I think if you take a mask off and set it on the ground; the eyes do not glow by themselves.

Oh, the other half of this theory is that Sky Kids DON'T HAVE EYES.
We literally see in third-person based on our ability to absorb light from every direction.
Like many other things we do for no reason other than whimsy; we wear masks with eyes traditionally because it's familiar and personal and cute.

[light minnow]

I mean
Maskless does show closed eyelids

[hushed steeple]

yes i think that skykids close their eyes when not wearing a mask so as to avoid blinding anyone
the mask lets their eyes be open without being crazily bright but without it they'd be scorching and so they keep their eyes shut

[light minnow]

The child is a deadly lazer

[glacial shadow]

wearing an elder mask at home when it's super bright out be like

[leaden field]

Wearing any light colored cape at home be like

[crisp socket]

What about the sneezing emote?

[hushed steeple]

if we are just little clay people i think that’s adorable

[spiral vault]

Skykids 'imitate' a bunch of things that they can't actually do, for example breathing

I kind of like the 'no eyes' theory, at least because they don't really need it from a functional standpoint

I guess they do have eyes to look cool

[celest birch]

Or were made to have eyes by the Ancestor Spirits/fallen stars. 🤭

[celest birch]

Which is the reason I like to say that they're either golems with starlight-souls or having a golem-like physical form that is customized visually by the starlight-soul that it contains (or souls if we go with soul-wl direction) ... which also makes sense from the standpoint of them falling to the Kingdom of Sky as a star, as most stars, at least in our universe, are insanely hot balls of matter that can range from hydrogen to carbon.

[versed mirage]

Uhh we can drown, so it’s not imitation entirely.

[light minnow]

Personally i headcanon sky kids are more comfy when they have a mask so when they don't have one they're shy and close their eyes

[tough sky]

When we run out of air or whatever we breathe, we loose wl but if someone helps us and gets the wl we just lost back every time, we can stay underwater indefinitely
Also we can breathe when next to plants
I think that, while skykids do need dioxygen to live, they don't breathe like we do, they don't have lungs, I think they absorb it directly through their skin or something
And they can breathe near plants because there is more dioxygen there
I choose to believe that the bubbles we see are not actually there

[light minnow]

I wonder how sky kids drink
They can do it somehow
Not like burning the food like at grandma
I mean drinking tea from tea set and such

[dire night]

Eh i see where your coming from but i doubt. Besides its not something that fits in the world of sky because its so different from the other types of magic thar exists in the world of sky. Idk its a cool theory with ultimately not that much evidence. Just cause something has a outer body and a soul doesn't make them a golem. If that was the case all the normal people would be golems, all the creatures would be golems, everything would be golems. See what i mean?

And as stated before i think its more likely the skykids are more like gods or more fittingly like angels cause of their alien origin among the stars.

I mean the King was made ruler of all sky because he was seen as an otherworldly godlike figure. And if the Elders are also fallen stars (which im pretty sure they are) that would also support them being gods or godlike figures.

[abstract finch]

maybe it's a respect thing? like its polite to keep your eyes closed when your mask is off. kinda similar to taking your hat off wjen you're indoors

it does make sense that skykids don't really have 'eyes' though, because when their eyes are closed no light comes through their eyelids

[light minnow]

Hold on
Where did you get the king being otherworldly
Doesn't the intro say all the ancestors belong to the stars too
Like "our people descended from the stars" or something like that

[oblique garnet]

Hello lore chat!
Do crebs hide from krills by digging their legs in the sand? If so, is it different from creb to creb (assuming creb isn't always creb and creb are creb too but different creb than creb)

[light minnow]

I don't think crebs hide from krill at all normally, except for the one on oasis
Though to be fair, almost all crebs we see are corrupt so maybe that's why
The few non corrupt ones we meet don't really interact with krill, aside from the one oasis creb

[oblique garnet]

Because I just saw two creb who appeared to be uncorrupted (but probably charged me) hide their legs in the sand when the krill's spotlight touched them
Possibly just coincidence tho

[oblique garnet]

Thank you!

[light minnow]

Ooohhh where did you see that?

I'm curious now because i didn't know you could get uncorrpt crebs in krill spotlight range

[surreal lily]

Silly headcanon: they don't. They just pour it over their shoulder to make it seem like they drank it.

[nimble ingot]

TGC's 4 elements headcanon.

• water - Flow
• air- flower
• earth - journey
• fire - Sky Childern of the Light.

All four have a flowy, airy feel to them.
All four have some relation to the sky (either by colour, or by relation such as wind or the sun).
All three have a feeling of time being frozen, but at the same time progressing as you complete the game.
All three have a connection to life. Namely with ancient civilisation, but more so in regards to the life characters/creatures lived.

[nimble ingot]

perhaps when you take the stew crabs to a place where the krill can spot them?

It would make sense for crabs in general to want to hide a bit when a dark dragon looms over them.
Although, it may be a detail the game is not entirely focused on. Especially when the goal of these enemies are to attack skykids. Therefore, a crab wanting to attack a skykid and the krill spotting them at the same time would still happen, regardless of the lore suggesting that crabs may hide when a dark dragon is about to attack a skykid.

[abstract finch]

why do king jellyfish only appear in the eden ending? surely they would have been hit the hardest by the storm, as they are closest? maybe they were being held there tl have their light converted into energy, and so were kept locked down and safe from the fallout. still, i don't see why they would have been kept in the palace if they were merely going to be used up for energy

[oak ferry]

Don't they drink and eat when they sit in tables?

[surreal lily]

In the game, they do. I just like to imagine that they pretend to drink/eat and then throw it on the ground

[celest birch]

I do see it, it's mainly due to how their outer look isn't supported by what see in the game to be something soft like muscles and flesh, but rather hard one like clay or rock, thus "golem-like", as golems are known in folklore to be humanoids made from clay/rock ... and since Darkness crystals can grow on them, this makes them be more like actual fallen stars/planets (which absolutely fits into your "Skykids are angels" theory due to our neighboring being named mainly after Gods of the Old) as compared to the Elders, with hard rock-like exterior and burning light-based interior, which also answers their glowing eyes when they do have them open.

It's due to their rocky/clay-based body that they're deemed "golem-like", which is natural for literal fallen stars they're being portrayed as in the game (and this also nicely alludes to how we have statues depicting both ancient Gods and angels). It's all in + about details.

[calm schooner]

They’re like kids playing tea-party.
There’s no food, and the tea is water, which you’d just pour on the grass. They get their “food”/nourishment from wax/light I presume. It’s like having a pretend tea-party and then the kids get called by their parents for actual food, lunch or a meal. It’s a means of enjoyment not nourishment. It’s a cute Idea ngl.
It does make you wonder from a lore standpoint, how they even figured out things eat with their faces.
Do the spirits have faces under their masks? Or was it an observation of the animals around them.
Also, what would the creatures in sky eat?
Since I can at least assume krill eat the light from light creatures, do crabs eat the light you loose after they charge you?
And what do light creatures eat?
Real-life jellyfish eat zooplankton, is there an air alternative to that in sky? Some tiny creature in the air we can’t see?—
Uh, it’s interesting.

[gray python]

do sky kids with masks eat with their mask on. like they can eat snacks and stuff. BUT HOW. THERES A MASK IN THE WAY.

plus we have somewhat godly powers..and use it for little stuff like , exercise emote and the other one where they somehow spit out a ball? and bounce it

[nimble ingot]

They could be a rare encounter skykids can find.
The reason for thinking this is the Aurora concert shows them in the Starlight Desert as well as in the finale.

This may imply the greatest, or elder variants of light creatures are either ellusive (difficult to find) or rare in general.

As for why they are rare.
It is possible with the darkness in the realms, the creatures were not able to reach orbit with the eden gates closed, the routes to eden being too dangerous with the krill. Or with the safer routes being the pipes, smaller creatures find a way to orbit while larger creatures either die due to the darkness or facing the krill.

There are many other places in the realms us skykids are not yet able to explore (at least in terms of what the game shows us).
It is also possible there are other elder creatures we have not yet seen.

[pastel brook]

this is why we live like heathens, stealing from the trees of Eye of Eden

[nimble ingot]

Adam and Eve reference???? 0.0
Not quite. It is a modified reference to a song by Aurora.

(note, the lore from the bot is not always trustworthy)
(at least not without other sources to help support its mad ramblings)

can we say heathens?
Of all the words the censor would block, that word is ok?

[celest birch]

Eye of Eden has trees? xD

[nimble ingot]

lol, the song by Aurora and Eden refers to the Biblical mythos of the Tree of Knowledge.

It would be interesting if Eden in Sky had Trees.
Which could make for nice fanon lore about the crystal like trees in the realms grew from seeds that fell from Eden.
If it was canon, it would be one way to explain why the Lightseekers are intend on caring for these saplings.
Not to mention the tree in the Nine coloured deer's that is much bigger presumably because of the deer's magic protecting and feeding it.

Back to the Tree of Knowledge. It was a mythical tree that bore fruit we dont truly know what they looked like. Most artistic depictions use apples, but that may be a symbolic example for people wondering what the fruit looked like.
Whoever eats from this fruit would gain knowledge of good and evil.
knowledge of good and evil may also be related to wisdom.

Knowledge, Wisdom and the underlying theme of the 'sin' that doomed the world has made interesting connection with the game to Christianity.

I must remind folks when it comes to religion. The game has likely taken inspiration from several cultures, mythos, histories and religions.
There could be many other references the game may be refering to.

[versed copper]

Yes! We live by absorbing energy as light and heat; straight up photos (does that make us plants?). I think of our bodies as being like movable fired clay shells with the appearance modified by "spirit".
Fire, btw, is made of heated gasses and plasma which is another form of matter composed of ionized particles that are part of the combustion process; usually carbon dioxide, monoxide, water, oxygen, and whatever other trace elements are there.
I kind of love that the old version of "elements" aren't primary building blocks like was originally thought, they do map right onto the phases of matter. Earth-solid, water-liquid, air-gas, and fire-plasma.

I think the spirits were actually organic, fleshy creatures, but we are different. It's also why we don't grow up or age.

[trim hatch]

You get it.

There's been some more development up here about breathing and eyes, but I want to add on here, about what you said about the ancestors. Organic and fleshy. Yeah. Sky Kids are a different from of life entirely. We do not have organs, we do not function by Carbon-Based processes.

[trim hatch]

Or just incinerate it against their face, lol.

[versed copper]

I mean, I've seen inside my head and it's an empty, hollow shell 😅
Just a light inside the body

[surreal lily]

That's my new favorite

[opaque coyote]

i remember seeing a theory that when whatever the king had conjured up to increase the magic exploded, it poisoned and destroyed gw, eden, and kind of hidden forest right? so how come daylight prairie and valley of triumph didn't get affected? idk if this has been asked before but i was super confused on that part

i saw another theory that bc vault is kind of inside eden it was shielded from that so it was protected

[light minnow]

They did get affected to some extent

All the ancestors there did die, and they are still trapped in those dark statues like everywhere else
And there is still darkness plants and creatures in those areas too

[opaque coyote]

yeah but not as much as the other realms

i orignally thought its bc there were futher away but valley is closer then hidden forest

[light minnow]

Well golden wasteland was already ravaged by a war before the shattering even happened
Eden itself is still under a storm at the very center of it
And hidden forest was a place that was seemingly used to craft those dark crystals from the light of light creatures

[opaque coyote]

true i just thought that its rlly weird that valley is kinda close to eden and it was barely affected

[light minnow]

Valley does hold up surprisingly well yeah

[opaque coyote]

maybe the snow has something to do w it?

and gw is even further away from eden than valley is. i always thought gw was the most dangerous bc it was the closest (other than vault) and it recieved most of the destruction or whatever that was

and shouldnt there at least be a bit damage left behind if the dark magic or whatever was so strong it killed the elder of vault? bc arent elders supposed to be super strong and god-like too?

or was the elder not in valley when that happened since it showed the elders in the shard memory all together trying to stop the crystal thing

[keen shore]

@native galleon

[lucid bridge]

Any connection, do you think?

[native galleon]

ive been summoned

oh my god where do i even start uhhhhhhh

you know the war

[opaque coyote]

yep

[light minnow]

Yeah again GW is a special case because it got utterly ravaged by a war just before

[light minnow]

I mean considering that the wasteland elder themselves battled like all other warrior, i think it's safe to say they are also just mortals
They may have something special to them, but they never struck me as god like

[opaque coyote]

idk bc being an elder and all ig hes supposed to be super powerful to like watch over that realm

[native galleon]

There's a theory that Valley was on the other side of the war in Wasteland - the gist is that Valley was the wealthy realm that depended heavily on the darkstone production that was killing Wasteland, and so they fought over it. There's a lot more to the theory than that (that's why I've been typing so long, I'm trying to figure out a way to phrase this that doesn't sound insane) but basically, Valley probably tried to protect their pristine perfect city from the darkness and war that was spreading from Wasteland, and they would have had the advanced technology and resources to do that. Another part of it is that there's a giant cyclone separating Valley from Wasteland, which some people think the Valley elders might have created with cyan light (air magic) to keep the darkness and war out of their realm. I have a lot of thoughts on this, I hope it makes sense but i do understand it sounds like the ramblings of a crazy person as well lol

Thematically, Valley is supposed to represent the peak of civilization as well as the prime of your life; it’s supposed to make you feel invulnerable. So that’s the only actual explanation we have for why it’s relatively unharmed, but if you want a lore explanation as to why that’s the case, this is a possible theory

[cobalt palm]

Crabs did nothing wrong official, they're just scritchy

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxWqoL9dOqyqaNbkWb3W9A-3amNqL5W6ak

[brave patio]

YESSS that’s the water symbol (from the trials) that’s also used to represent the blue light! (From season of enchantment) - hopefully we’ll see more of the other lights in Sky’s future

[upper mortar]

I really hope TGC is almost done with the Two Embers Series so we can feast on a huge lore dump

Lore chat is gonna have a field work when that drops

[untold ridge]

I always questioned if there was a king in the civilization in the world of sky

Eden has a noticable crest before you enter. Some think they are the eden elder while others think they are the king, some say it's nothing to think about. Quite a mystery I'd say to if this figure really exists

[bitter plank]

I think they are the same person !

[untold ridge]

Another question I myself posed what caused the war in the Golden wasteland, I find no evidence on how it occured. I know for certain it happened around the same time darkness began to arise

If they even had intrest for war, why fight if their people were very united? What were the signs of discontent?

Please ping me if you wanna discuss this further

[opaque coyote]

yeah that makes sense for the war thing but when the crystal thing broke bc of the king and make the krills and stuff? shouldnt it have at leats affected valley a bit?

[keen shore]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1058231097483337811/1061928039140831242/IMG_2015.gif

[opaque coyote]

makes sense why it would be protected from gw but its right in front of eden. it shouldve been one of the realms destroyed or poisoned like hidden forest and gw

[untold ridge]

seems like the closest we got but i cant seem to find enough evidence from it

[opaque coyote]

this is random lmao but is ur pfp stolas?

[untold ridge]

no, its one i drawn myself and took inspiration from stolas'

its real inspiration was mostly from hollow knight that i intended by someone in the game named "Troupe Master Grimm" is where my main inspiration came from

[opaque coyote]

ohh okay loll. its rlly cool tho

[untold ridge]

thanks mate

and speaking of hollow knight. very off topic but since i am a hollow knight fan that also means i like to overanalyze and try to find the smallest detail i can find, so you might find me useful for lore finding and speculation

[native galleon]

it did affect valley, everyone there is still dead /lh

[native galleon]

We also don’t know much about where krills come from. Or much about the king. Or anything really

[untold ridge]

i did notice that the least amount of darkness or none at all is in the isle of dawn which is untouched for some reason

we know that it also even touched daylight parrie

i know its supposed to be the turtorial level for new players but still i cant help but wonder that darkness appears as early as the daylight parrie

[native galleon]

Yeah, there’s some possibilities there. On a basic level it’s because it’s the intro, or you could speculate that it’s because it’s furthest from Eden. Or if you get into concept art and fan lore territory, there are ideas about the Isle Elder rejecting “dark power” which in today’s canon could mean that they were opposed to the use of darkstone so they were never affected by it.

(Sidenote: Please don’t take this or my previous theory as me claiming what is 100% canon. Sky is extremely vague about its lore, which doesn’t give us a lot of canon facts to work on, but we gather clues and concepts and build on each other’s theories. It’s a little frustrating, but it can be fun to play around with the story)

[untold ridge]

so we're on a dead end on that one

[native galleon]

Sort of? If you’re looking for definitive answers, then yes, but if you just want to speculate then you can take that wherever you want and run with it

[untold ridge]

i think in the two embers we should get pretty much a couple of answers and explanations but until than we're stuck on speculation

[native galleon]

It’s a lot of speculation

[untold ridge]

in the game journey had explanations that were a bit subtle it was clear. In sky its very vauge and with seasons adding to it making the picture larger and larger

not that there is not any fun speculating

[twilit sky]

There is technically a very small amount of darkness in isle. (In that cave underneath the temple) whereas valley (as far as I can remember), doesn’t have any darkness. Well except for in the temple but as I’m pretty sure that was added for a seasonal spirit don’t know how relevant that is to the lore

[untold ridge]

i do enjoy looking into many possibilities and building onto it

[native galleon]

I’ve heard that before. I wish it was more like that tbh, it doesn’t need to be jumping out in your face, but it should still be clear enough to follow. A lot of lore information is shared outside the game and it’s very hard to find for newcomers

[untold ridge]

i dont mind to change the topic but what the heck is this role changing time to time?

[twilit sky]

I have no idea

[native galleon]

Oh that’s just a thing skybot does, it haunts people from time to time

[untold ridge]

i played the game and i highly reccomend it. Its short but very serence and enjoyable

[twilit sky]

See I’m used to fnaf lore so this is about as convoluted

[untold ridge]

ah i see

[untold ridge]

fnaf lore is too messy even for my expertice, even though its intresting its super tangled up because the creator keeps changing his mind

[twilit sky]

Yeah I know, still fun tho

[untold ridge]

agreed

[native galleon]

I don’t play it but from what I know it’s also because it keeps expanding

[twilit sky]

But anyway we have any thoughts on krill’s? To be specific. How and or why do they exist? Because they look a bit freaky to be a creature of the light that’s just infected with darkness

[untold ridge]

a theory i have is there is no light without dark

[native galleon]

@keen shore your turn

[untold ridge]

the only explanation is that they come from eden after darkness rose

we know for a fact they existed while the war in the golden wasteland was going on

[twilit sky]

I saw a theory also a while ago, that they were made. Like out of bits of other creatures of the light and stuff. Either as guard dogs or something else entirely. So they’re zombie/ Frankenstein creatures or something like that

[untold ridge]

and that in the murals for the nine colored deer they also managed to make their way there

but im not sure if the nine colored deer is really cannon, but ill still put that as a possiblity

[twilit sky]

Yeah I feel like collabs are slightly less cannon to lore, if they’re relevant at all. But that’s just my opinion I could be completely wrong

[untold ridge]

In my interpertation, they are canon but they take place when the sky kids are into play (today) which is why AURORA managed to break through the laws of space and time to get into this world

[keen shore]

No concrete answer as of yet, but I like to imagine they're the skeletonized remains of many mantas fused together! You can kind of see the wing bone shape in their legs and even horns. The soft bits that came off in the process would be the dark sludge you see in Wasteland a lot.
A bit dark, but I think krill deserve to be horrifying. ^.^

[untold ridge]

they dont really come into play in the past, like the prince they dont really exist in the past instead they are actively exploring the world and playing just as the story is

[twilit sky]

It may have been your theory I saw

[native galleon]

like a year ago when i was new to lorechat I accidentally had this same theory without even knowing Salem also had it

[keen shore]

I think the difference with mine is that I see them as made accidentally, not on purpose. As to how that would happen, I will leave it up to your imagination for... um. server rule reasons

[hushed steeple]

Hellooo

[twilit sky]

Hm yeah. Dw I got plenty of ideas hides notes behind back as it definitely is too dark and or gorey for server rules

[native galleon]

Sometimes people ask what creature krills are a corrupted form of. And I say all of them. Which i will also not explain for the same reasons

[twilit sky]

Sky, nice cute game probably actually about friends or something wholesome like that
Sky lore enthusiasts: “yeah but hear me out here- lists several war crimes each of the elders have committed

[native galleon]

falls to my knees...places hand to my chest.....you. you get me

[keen shore]

this is so real

in my defense. Diamond explosion

[twilit sky]

Well yeah obviously that means terrible terrible things
*to the point of breaking server rules of the discord server for said game if you were to actually talk about it

[native galleon]

i can think of at least 2

[keen shore]

honestly just the fact that everyone is dead and also the existence of golden wasteland is enough to be like. hm touches ground something happened here

[native galleon]

i mean you already know this but that was what did it for me

[twilit sky]

I’ll be honest, I didnt see anything wrong till I got to Eden (idk I was a moth at the time)

[keen shore]

You're better than me I didn't question it for 2 years

[native galleon]

i did valley and went "wow that was so cool i bet the next level is even cooler" and then i saw The Horrors

also aurora stuff

[twilit sky]

My reaction to gw:
“Oh a darker level, makes sense got to add some challenge”
My reaction to Eden: (mind you I didn’t go to Eden till a month and a half into playing , I wanted to get all the maps first)
“Ok what the in the hell happened here. What did they (the spirits in my moth brain) do???”

[native galleon]

that's how they get you

[twilit sky]

The answer technically is, who knows I say this as I have seen so many different theories as to what happened and why specifically it happened

[keen shore]

Honestly yeah. A desert filled with smog and ruins can be easily written off but when you start getting to the eternal storm and painful crystals raining down on you you start questioning things

love the eden diamond i wish we got more lore on it

[twilit sky]

I wanna know too

[keen shore]

Oh! Sorry I assumed you knew, hold on

[twilit sky]

( I am baby lorist for sky but thank you, mostly here to have slightly more accurate writing for my skids)

[keen shore]

The basics of my knowledge is this:
The Eden diamond is the red crystal you see in point of no return, it looks like this. ♦️ Very descriptive I know. Anyways, it's made of darkstone, the same blue crystal material you see in doors a lot, the stuff you light with your candle. The difference is that, while the Eden diamond likely once looked the same, it got "corrupted" somehow and is now sucking in light all around it without an off switch, instead of simply accepting the light it's given; this is why it hurts you. It's taking away your light. It's also why it killed the elders and all the creatures you see in the Shattering memories if you've ever been there. At some point it exploded; although the exact mechanics of this explosion is unknown, it was probably to do with the corruption inside it.

The Shattering memories and poems show a lot of this but some of it is just piecing stuff together, so it might end up being inaccurate in a few years, but it hasn't failed me for just over a year and I feel it explains a lot so it's probably pretty good.

There's a lot of other miscellaneous things I either know, theorize, or headcanon about it but those are the basics. The explosion seems to have been the main catalyst for everyone dying although we aren't quite sure.

I did some reconstructions of the Eden diamond before it exploded and can try to track it down if you want! Although they have a lot of my personal, unproven thoughts in them.

[jade night]

random thought but the "ukulele" in sky isn't a ukulele
THAT'S 3 STRINGS RIGHT THERE. AND IT DOESN'T SOUND REMOTELY CLOSE TO A UKULELE (I should know, I own one) so uh- I been making my research, still not sure about it, but... lmk if anyone's got an idea on what this thing is-
Like, ukuleles have 4 strings, and I've been making some research. So far, the sound I got closest to would be a rebab (not with a bow)

[keen shore]

The Instrument

[edgy kernel]

I was talking to a friend and they were sorta laughing that the "Lute" isnt quite a lute either

[jade night]

would love to hear why-
actually, yep, the research I made so far shows lutes having around 6 strings (?) usually

the sound is right, just maybe not the amount of strings

OOP YEP-

[edgy kernel]

they were thinking it seemed like more of a Biwa, which has 4 strings
It looks more like it too, to me

[jade night]

ohh
yeah I can see it

[edgy kernel]

I have to wonder where the names on the wiki actually came from? as far as i remember items never have names ingame

[jade night]

apparently the names are from the official game files? Not sure tho

[jade night]

but going back to the "ukulele", this is a concert ukulele, which is the closest thing I could find so far
Actually forget about it it's a 3 stringed tenor ukulele (at least, what I can get closest to)

[celest birch]

Cue Krill Shard Memory.

[echo anchor]

i just was thinking about this , who’s the eye of Eden’s elder ? and where’s he ?

[light minnow]

We don't see him
He's kinda just
Gone
The eden elder is also often called the king (concept art name is Resh) and the Prince (concept art name is Alef)
We know he exists because murals show that someone existed to fill that role, and there's his symbol showing up in some places
It seems like he led the construction of the eden crystal, which later turned to catastrophe

Notably his symbol appears above the exploding crystal in the final shattering memory, this could imply he's responsible somehow for what happened with it

[devout talon]

one quick dumb question, would the temperature in eden be hot or cold?

[abstract finch]

cold, i think
light is being taken away, and where light goes, warmth follows. also the general atmosphere seems pretty chilling lmao

[brave patio]

Plus it’s a very high mountain

[celest birch]

Definitely cold. WHich also fits the Journey-theme of a snowy frosty mountain peak as well.

[twilit sky]

Wouldn’t say it’s a dumb question, inquiring minds want to know. But yeah cold I’d say. The cloud cover is what does it for me. And the wind. It would be so cold

[light minnow]

Considering the constant high speed wind, lack of light and no apparent heat sources i think cold
I always headcanoned the red shards to be cold as well with how they drain off your light

[twilit sky]

But do the shards taste good

[elfin crane]

Couldn't find the best channel to ask this small and maybe pointless auestion but what is it with this cat on the map? Is there a meaning to it?

[celest birch]

That is Oreo! 🤭

[elfin crane]

AH

[celest birch]

The map area is the 8-player puzzle with Oreo's grave.

[elfin crane]

I remember now yeah thanks omggg🤦‍♀️

[tough sky]

I think the Eden Crystal is really hot but the mountain is cold
So when you enter Eden, it's cold (but I don’t think too cold, around 10°C/50°F)
But the point of no return is much warmer
And the closer you get to the crystal, the hotter it gets

[robust flare]

Does anyone have pictures of the concept art that is displayed at Sky assemblies? I can't find pictures of all of them up close 😭 There's a lot of concept art I haven't seen elsewhere that are at the assemblies

[tulip badge]

🤔

[robust flare]

I FOUND THE EDEN ONE now to keep searching

[rugged bison]

ik a lot of ppl alr said cold but the red sky keeps reminding me of like a vulcano eruption with lava etc. even though there actually isnt any lava present anywhere but still. plus it kinda has a bit of hell-ish vibes with the destruction and monsters (krills) for me

[celest birch]

Red skies can also happen right after storms as well, which are like a polar opposite of a volcanic eruption. As for being Hellish, absolutely, even if it's kind of bipolar due to near-surface caves being colder while ones with lava flow are much warmer.

[minor drift]

polar opposite
Not sure if the wordplay was intentional, but I snorted.

🤔

Maybe it's partially because I'm Canadian, but Eden to me feels cold. Not chilly i-think-i-need-a-sweater cold, but that burning cold when you're outside too long and everything starts to feel like it's on fire. Or with shards on the ground, like coming in from the snow and the burning, swollen tingling feeling your limbs get as they warm up. Hot, but not.

[opaque coyote]

yeah but i assumed they were created from the explosion thing bc that seemed the most obvious to me idk tho

[nimble ingot]

Dark Dragons (krill) were corrupted by darkness.
This was confirmed by Jenova Chen in an older livestream Q&A.
This suggests there was once a Light Dragon in Sky.

[light minnow]

We know they existed before the explosion, aurora shows them during the war
I think treasure reef also has a spirit memory with a small krill?

[pastel brook]

underneath darkened skies, there's a light kept alive

[nimble ingot]

That sounds like something a soldier would say to their fellow fighter amidst the muddy trenches.
With a krill ominously skulking around in the no man's land.
Like a vulture or a grim reaper looking for the next lost soul to cross its path.

[minor drift]

I think treasure reef also has a spirit memory with a small krill?
Yup, it does. There's one in the water sneaking up on the Anxious Angler in their memory.

[light minnow]

I just imagine the krill sneaking around with pink panther theme

[minor drift]

Oh that's going to be stuck in my head now. Thanks for that. xD

[nimble ingot]

Side question about island home. What is going on there (loerwise and gameplay wise)?
TS's have been showing up in Aviary, and yet not at the Island home and the rebirth location has been moved there as well.
Regardless of players who may want to not be reborn there because they would rather keep the island as their homes.

Is TGC planning on removing the island at some point in the future?
Because if that is not the case, why are these bugs not getting addressed this year?
The island had been disconnected from the realms' lore, but still has some significance as the place where the skykids have started (I refuse to accept the Aviary as the sole birthplace. Both can still exist.)

Personally, it would have made more sense for skykids to have multiple birth locations they arrived in the realm with. There are just too many skykids to have all come from the island, or even just the Aviary.
But these 2 locations, and possibly many others. That would have made more sense.

[tough sky]

Home was made so new players could start quicker because the Aviary was too big I think
So at least for that reason, I don't think it will be removed

[nimble ingot]

The reason for old Aviary is it was too big of an area. The portals were far out in the cloud fields and you go through these wind path like gates. (this was way before wind paths were a thing btw).

The new one is nice and compact.

But the Island one is nice and quiet.

Personally, players on the island (or hypothetically from other home locations) can always visit Aviary. They dont have to be forced to live there just because it has more content than the Island home.

[tough sky]

You can set the island as Home

I don't really like starting in the Aviary Village so I spawn there and when I tp I arrive there as well

[nimble ingot]

Yes, but cannot be reborn there, cannot see the TS there, dont see the event guide there (which might change later on, but Aviary has the event guide anyways).

Worse yet, the days of fortune, and part of the the feast event was bugged for such a long time.

[tough sky]

The TS I think are supposed to be here
I know they're not
But iirc when they announced the possibility of setting the Aviary as Home, they said that TS would be available at both locations

[nimble ingot]

which has not been the case that I have seen since the start of the year....

spirits I have sadly not seen at the island home:

• hair tousle teen
• daydream forester
• indifferent alchemist
• nodding muralist
• ceasing commodore
• frantic stagehand
• light whisperer
• bearhug hermit
• twirling champion
• anxious angler
• chill sunbather
• festival spin dancer

I believe that stretching lamplighter wast there?
But it breaks my skykid heart that Home is being Thanos snapped and player just have to accpet aviary as their Home without TGC giving any proper notice or reason why they want to do that.

[tough sky]

There was a q&a livestream tonight
I haven't watched it because it was at midnight for me
But maybe they answered the question

[lucid bridge]

I’ve realized that the rocks near the riverbank in the Prairie Peaks are indicators of how high the water will rise, with the rock with the water symbol engraved on it probably symbolizing the maximum height of the water.

[versed mirage]

Not sure if this counts as lore, but looking on VERY early prototypes of Sky. A lot more emphasis on the red candle the player holds was made, which makes me wonder if there’s more behind it.

[tough sky]

Maybe?
But emphasis in what way?
The colour or just we see it more?

[tough sky]

I just went through Eden
And at the very end of the ending cutscene, we see a red candle
So I think it is important

[weak cypress]

Wow interesting. I don’t remember this! The cut scene right after you die? Or later?

[robust flare]

If I remember right the candle is after the credits!

[dire night]

After the credits. Right after you see the megabird

[tough sky]

Yup
Right before you're reborn

[severe fjord]

Anyone have a good YouTube video just generally explaining the sky lore?

[hushed steeple]

dunah dunah.. dunah

[kind cradle]

i think home is gonna be only for people who want it for nostalgia reasons

when you start a new account it begins in aviary, home isn't even mentioned

[nimble ingot]

That is sad.

You are right that people who may want to stay on the island is for nostalgia. Most likely because that is where they started the game.

Knowing Island home would not even be mentioned for new account users further supports the concernjng theory that TGC is quietly retconning a part of the game that has been there for 4 years.

They removed aviary even if people loved it. And now added it back for nostalgia.

Removing island Home would be them literally making the same mistake all over again.

[kind cradle]

they won't remove it, it just won't have any use

[nimble ingot]

I dearly hope so.

If they do remove it.
I'll be linking this very conversation.
Especially when TGC has failed to give at least an explaination to why.
They did when they removed Aviary.
They have no excuse to not do the same for the original Home.

I'll boycott by not playing Sky if they were to force players to move to Aviary by removing the Island Home.

Canonically, my skykid is simply homeless. They wont accept the aviary as their home.
Even if the aviary is a great place, it is still not a home players should be forced to accept when they had a different home.

[keen shore]

story of my life….

[celest birch]

Since I've heard that the lands of Kingdom of Sky are still developing, I would absolutely not be surprised if this awesomeness happens to come in the actual game. 🤭

[quiet monolith]

wait do we ever see the megabird? or is it shown as smth else?

[lucid bridge]

We see the mega bird during the credits - it’s the bird shaped constellation after all the planets have passed

[quiet monolith]

ohh i always skipped the credits tho soo

anybody got a pic of it?

[hushed steeple]

what’s this?

[dense inlet]

Go to 2:12 (video timestamp)
https://youtu.be/yyG3mBwV2Ks?si=jpdhoDOajfzTwRUg

Also, in the credits, there seems to be like the constellation of the Megabird before it presents the Megabird (the real deal)

[dire night]

Here is a picture of the megabird in the credits. It looks weird but the second image of the concept art explains what exactly your looking at. The fact is the mega bird is just too absolutely large and all incompacing to have it fully on the screen. So the thing we see in the credits is just the top of its head while im pretty sure they eye is orbit. That just shows how unbelievably big it is.

[dire night]

You have to remember that the megabird ARE those stars, as all light comes from it and all light returns to it. Thats why it got weaker because the Darkstone prevented it from continuing that cycle.

We also have the murals on the Forgottan Ark that depicts the megabird but if you didn't see the credits you would think its just random swirls but you can see the wings.

This also lets me to believe that, although the megabird is relatively bird shaped, it doesn't have a solid shape because its made out of a bunch of stars. So its shape can change

[dense inlet]

Ohh I see. I think the Megabird is kind of like a deity that appears when stars cluster and stuff. I think the Megabird is kind of like a goddess/creator of everything. That's just me tho

Thank you for your insights tho ✨ I appreciate it. I have learnt more lore

But I think it's also possible that she only takes the form of stars forming in the shape of a huge bird. I'm sorry for the confusion. My brain isn't in lore-comprehending mode right now

[tough sky]

I noticed that on the artworks for the seasons, the spirits often seem to have an inner light like the skykids
But not in game
And not always
Season of Gratitude and Lightseeker don't have them at all
But from Season of Belonging, they all seem to have one
Season of Rhythm doesn't have an artwork but Rhythm Guide has one in the Revival artwork
Some are hard to see (Belonging, Enchantment, they could be stars floating in their bodies but I don’t think so)
And from Season of Sanctuary, they all do for sure
Although they are really hard to see in Season of AURORA

[tropic escarp]

Hey, what's the general lore in sky at the moment?

[brave patio]

https://sky-children-of-the-light.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Amity206/Sky_Lore_Theories

Here you go!! I’m still working on updating it but it’s coming along now. Note that this isn’t official and I’m not a part of the Sky team, this is my best guess using all available sources

[tough sky]

Getting into Sky lore is so difficult because nothing is said and unlike Journey for example there is no good video on YouTube (that I have found at least)
Here is by far the best place because there is always someone who can explain the basics and answer questions

[floral plinth]

Can I please get some more information on the Leviathan

[celest birch]

So then the Megabird is pretty much a galaxy shaped like a bird whose conscience is pretty much clustered via light of all these stars?

[celest birch]

I actually never saw the image in credits as its head, but as an entirety. 😅

[primal dune]

glitched socks has a short video on the summary of the lore

[red meteor]

This is actually one of the best sources to understand a bunch of the lore (even if not everything is canon) it's very helpful!

[fervent knoll]

I agree, I won't leave my old home

[spiral vault]

big diamond destroyed everyone

[mossy urchin]

Hey I'm a fairly new player so can anyone tell what is the sky lore? Like just the gist would be fine if any of you have time 😅

[dense inlet]

Hello apologies for ping

Sky lore is up to interpretation, but there is canon stuff in the game's lore as well! Many players have created content discussing and investigating the lore of Sky. You can check in the pinned messages of this channel for your Sky lore needs.

Here's a sky moth lore do:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12XSkaMV_5UYG-an_Qo37ItyKP6GaqBBA6iRqBVE2qck/edit
I suggest you learn Sky lore at your own pace. Happy lore investigating!

If you have any questions regarding Sky lore, feel free to ask here. Have fun and wishing you the best!

[brave patio]

https://sky-children-of-the-light.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Amity206/Sky_Lore_Theories

Here you go! I’m still editing so it’s a bit messy right now

[sturdy scaffold]

how does the diamond infected the whole kingdom?

like what can it do? and what did it done?

[mossy urchin]

Thank you so much!

[mossy urchin]

Thanks alot to you!

[dense inlet]

I think the diamond became very unstable and it started to erupt. I think that the shards that arrive in realms came from the huge diamond in Eden. With shards falling into the realms, it may have brought pollution and infected the realms. The shattering events may be what have happened back in the past

That's what I think

[sturdy scaffold]

what about the creature? what happend to them? why's there's darkness?

they look like have the same light thing, is them the same creature?

[tough sky]

We don't know
It is definitely possible and I think that they are at least related if only for the spotlight thing

[dire night]

All mantas has that one light eye. As far as we know, krills were the result of experimentation done to mantas in the treasure reef. They wanted to create weapons for the civil war in the wasteland and used darkstone to corrupt manta eggs, or atleast that is what the concept art and cut content shows.

Either that or the krills always existed but they lived at the bottem of the ocean undisturbed. Only after they were discovered did the people of sky start to use them as a weapon, which resulted in them taking over the wasteland.

Either one of them fits i think.

I like the latter theory as it could show just as there was always an ancient light (the megabird) there was also an Ancient Darkness ( the mega krill ).

[spiral vault]

"The diamond" aka me, broke apart in cracks and became corrupted, raining shards across the whole kingdom

[light minnow]

To me it never looked like treasure reef was a place for experimentation, and i see nothing hinting at it being purposed for war
In my opinion the murals and the darkstone everywhere suggests more that they used light creatures to fuel the darkstone, which then would be exported to be used through the realms
The krill would then either be a byproduct of stealing the light from creatures, or they were already there and contained
We see a similar thing in the forest temple : trapped light creatures and what looks like darkstone charging/creating buildings

[naive lodge]

i thought the mantas were experimented on as a way to gain power from their light as darkstone was growing sparse (like we have w fossil fuels irl), and then the krills were created and that was the catalyst for the war as people were fightinh for the light creatures?

[hushed steeple]

my personal little theory is that they were used for light, and the ancestors experimented with their bodies to try and get as big creatures and as much light as possible, and in the process the mantas were corrupted due to the pain and the ancestors toying with their genes, and krills were born

[proper pumice]

And still have no news about the two embers.... Because the pilot episode should drop around this march but now no confirmation 😢

[knotty flare]

Hey i saw this page when i got invited by a friend to the server , im very interested in lore of sky are there place where i can read about the lores ,ive been looking for them but its difficult to find thanks for rhe help😊

[celest birch]

https://sky-children-of-the-light.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Amity206/Sky_Lore_Theories

I saw this one being spread around; only mind that Kingdom of Sky lore is very vague and most of it is speculation (by this point I´d say that it´s more vague than FNaF one ).

[autumn meteor]

sassy are you here?

[next vigil]

@autumn meteor

[oak hedge]

I just noticed how the Eden looks kinda looks like a giant lost winged light (or maybe it’s just me)

[dire night]

My own interpretation says its the most likely. There was 2 sides to the civil war: those who were against the light and those who were on the side of the light. It seems that those who were against the light ( which included the king, the elders and most of the people ) did not want to get rid of the darkstone technology and as a result used the krills to their advantage. Only after the shattering happened did the krill inevitably turn on those who were against the light and killed them off too.
The civil war can be seen in one of the Aurora memories and the battlefield in general.

Also after looking at the wiki just now, it's one of the theories there too.

[light minnow]

Iirc the motivations of either side of the war weren't confirmed either, so that's theory too

But also nothing in treasure reef seems to suggest science experiments
There's no remains of equipment that suggests that

[dire night]

Nothing in thr game is confirmed, we are basing that evidence off of the shields that lay scattered on the battlefield. One has a darkstone emblem and the other has a sun if i remember correctly. Just have to make sure

[light minnow]

Ohhh i didn't know about the shield symbols, thanks for that info

I've seen that interpretation of the war said a lot before but i never heard of the actual evidence for it so i ended up thinking it was just a popular speculation

Though treasure reef still doesn't show signs of being war purposed in its murals or equipment remains
What it does have is lots and lots of darkstone and trapped light creatures : this is similar to the forest temple

[dire night]

Heres some images i stole off of the wiki 😅

[vocal terrace]

Hello lore chat! I just need some help on finding all the prince/alef iteration of the game! I just want to see the concepts available to us :3

[short lantern]

Hello 🙂 did they change the channel names into sassy … 😅

[celest birch]

Yes, because look at the date.

[short lantern]

Ahh ok

[sharp leaf]

I have a question. Do elders have names?

[celest birch]

In concept art, they do.

[sharp leaf]

Oh . Wichones?

[celest birch]

@sharp leaf

[sharp leaf]

Thank you so much

[hushed steeple]

They have sounds

too.

[nimble ingot]

Ayin (day elder) snores and moans. Tsadi (wasteland elder) groans and grunts.
the others dont really talk, let alone make much noise.
However, it is likely they are able to use their voices and thus be able to talk.

Dialogue in the game is mostly just text prompts that describe, prompt of explain some scenes. There are a handful of exceptions like Aurora who sings in the main game. The song we hear in the start of the game and in the ending. The vocals may not have defined lyrics as Aurora explained these vocals are meant to be expressive and emotionally driven, which implies that written words are not the main focus. The meaning is in the sounds, not just the words.
There is also the songs from Aurora's season that gave a trove of references we can compare and analyse between the songs and the lore of the game.
Take note that these songs were written before the season was released. Meaning they were not specifically written for Sky lore at first. But there is some overlapping themes we can look at in context with where and 'when' of the events in the game.

Most humanoid characters seems capable of speech.
Even though us skykids have been able to hear them actually talk.

[slate pawn]

Happy sassy day everyone

[trim gull]

i wonder if sassy drifter has 1000 crabs

[fervent knoll]

what lore theories do I miss?

[spiral vault]

Do you mean in-game, or concept art

[spiral vault]

The official ones are [Realm] Elder, such as Isle Elder, Prairie Elder...

[sharp leaf]

Thanks, I know those ones . But they seem more like titles. I was asking for the unofficial names but someone it has already helped me with those.

[hushed steeple]

Has anyone else wondered what are we in sky

[sweet zodiac]

children of light

[sturdy scaffold]

cause we're fallen stars 😄

Is spirit just the memory that affects them the most?

[lucid bridge]

I think spirits are lingering memories of dead ancestors who for whatever reason could not travel into Orbit

[brave patio]

The intro hints that the spirits are trapped and can’t ascend, and so it’s our job to free them

[glacial shadow]

Y'all think the dark plants are edible? If so, what would they taste like? lol

they have light trapped inside them that we see after burning them, maybe they aren't all bad 👀

[nimble ingot]

They used to be plants as it seems based on the flower items you can get from the season of the Nine Coloured Deer, and compared to the dark version from season of Shattering.

Hypothesizing on the visual appearance and growth conditions.
A plant that can host spores/blossoms with thicker leafy pads, that grows in or near water and has branching stems.
This fantastical plant could be familiar with succulents (albeit its thicker leaves could be used to store light rather than water).

I would imagine these plants could have a spongy interior, like an aloe plant. Because when skykids land on them, they make a soft thump sound.
The dark plants could smell and taste foul. As these take in polluted darkness.
Perhaps they are like mushrooms in taste?

Either way, these plants seem to have more secrets we have yet been able to uncover in the game.

[nimble ingot]

That may be true.

when you burn plants, some of them would release butterflies.
They mostly drop wax that we know is associated as a by product of light in Sky.

[glacial shadow]

yes, that's true. Maybe it would be like preparing and eating cactus.

[nimble ingot]

possibly

Even though succulents, cacti and other similar plants with thicker leaves that would help the plant survive desert environments with storing water.
TGC has established a theme in the game where land and aquatic creatures and some plants can exist in both environments.

This is part of the Sky aesthetic to create a whimsical, dreamy mood for the players to explore.
Where you see mantas soaring in the sky alongside the birds and flittering butterflies.

The world defies laws of physics by earth standards.
The logic of Sky has its own rules that our skykids adapt to as they explore this ancient world.
A world that once was full of magic and wonder, which was nearly snuffed out when skykids arrived.

[brave patio]

In the latest Q+A they confirmed that dark plants are oily and probably juicy!

[glacial shadow]

thank you for this

[opaque coyote]

has it ever been confirmed or theorized where the elders actually came from??? bc i see ppl saying that they came from the stars but the other ppl say that the sky kids came from the stars (like the prince). i personally think the elders came from another planet but idk

idk i just feel like it would make sense if the elders came from a diff planet and decided to rule over sky instead of coming from the stars too

[brave patio]

It’s been confirmed that they’re from a different world and they knew each other before falling!

[dense inlet]

Wait the Elders knew each other before they arrived? Is it alright if I ask for more context?

[opaque coyote]

intreasting does anyone have an idea abt what or how their birth planet was like? they obv had a reason to leave. maybe they destroyed their planet beyond saving for power or reasons of their own like how they used the light creatures in sky to make power but this time it was too powerful killed them?

what if they have done this to previous planets to like this isnt the first its happened

what if the corrupted the king and manipulated him to do that? idk if anyone has said this b4

[opaque coyote]

i think what they are trying to saw is before eden became eden, ruined parts of sky and killed the elders the elders knew and worked w eachother

[dense inlet]

Ohh alright got it. Thank you

[white rivet]

do skykids eat dirt

[opaque coyote]

yes

[glacial shadow]

Why is the valley of triumph the only realm with house/village structures? Where did people live in the other realms? (excluding aviary village)

(I guess the treehouse and wind paths kind of have living areas too actually)

[cold sparrow]

there is also a 'villages' part in prairie, they just look more like hobbit holes
and forest seems to have build a lot of tree house structures, but you can also see some other homely structures

and we see some houses in the deer's oasis too

[leaden field]

They looked oily to me

[hushed steeple]

yuck…

[lone hull]

those dark plants were supposed to resemble a type of darkness corruption in another language. but the term had been described in a lighter way, which was a way skykids did to fight off them, but failed.

[pastel brook]

🎵*Almost heaven, Eye of Eden. Red Shard Mountain, Forest Elder’s hammer…*🎵

[rugged swan]

Was told to ask this question here. Does anyone have the high quality image of this? Would love to be able to read all the words!

[storm sapphire]

I believe the information from that poster is compiled here, from the wiki https://sky-children-of-the-light.fandom.com/wiki/Seven_Days_of_Sky

[rugged swan]

Thankyou!

[magic nest]

in the nintendo switch trailer we can see the isle ppl lived in tents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBQRCHusYyU

can anyone explain cave of prophecies to me?

[brave patio]

Apparently it was from an interview and that’s all I have on it 🤷

[cedar tartan]

Nope, sorry, I didn't make a picture when I could get into the area myself. Good news, nothing except for the titles are more visible in-game if I remember correctly. (Titels: Dawn(Birth) - Day(Childhood) - Rain(Teenage) - Sunset(Adulthood) - Dusk(Midlife) - Storm(Aging/Death) - Orbit(Rebirth). Hope that helps)

[inland cliff]

I was just checking the narrative quests in season of performance and realised how they're related to the lore, like the first narrative quest is foreshadowing the star/comet falling to isle...

Have this been mentioned before? Can any1 check out more of the quests?

[fervent knoll]

is deer being worshipped by spirits?

[cobalt palm]

I put an infographic of the different combos here somewhere

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

There's a fair bit of discussion since then, but we've also had Passage, which may affect our interpretation on some of these too.
Young spirits, gathering by a rock, being taught stuff...

[cobalt palm]

I did some closeups, but you cannot read the words ingame on the posters, except for the headings

[cold sparrow]

many have tried
the texture resolution is just not good enough

[mossy verge]

I have this question that I've been pondering for a while

Is there a reason why skids energy gets sapped when in the Hidden Forest rain, and yet, during the 1st week phase for Days of Bloom, skids' energy doesn't seem to sap from the rain there?

I also think it's interesting that skids are able to swim in the water depths even though they are literally made of light (?)

[cold sparrow]

The rain in Forest seems to be polluted by darkstone, much like the water in Wasteland

It's interesting that underwater in 'safe' areas, Skykids have something like an oxygen meter, rather than having their light drained directly. I imagine it to be the oxygen they need to fuel their own inner flame, as fire needs oxygen to burn.

[native pawn]

its interesting how players might just discuss secret lore that was not intended by the devs and the devs end up going with it

[edgy kernel]

makes me wonder if it could have changed over time like that, or they always had pollution in mind. I think despite the rain hurting you in forest, the river and other pools of water there actually don't drain light at all which is interesting.

the idea of rain itself hurting you fits thematically and makes for a good thing to design the area around, maybe the lore came after and evolved

Just two areas later in wasteland though, the sludge water does drain you. my theory is that forest is kinda an early sign of pollution with the rain being bad but not strong enough to pollute the flowing river.
Maybe, the pollution is flowing down the river to the ocean coastline, to wasteland.

[light minnow]

Personally i disagree with the idea of polluted rain because said rain has not dirtied the water bodies of the forest
And also damage rain happens in a moments quest at prairie peaks
I kinda just have no idea how to explain the rain without a big contradiction

[edgy kernel]

I think maybe the rain in forest is not super polluted, but enough to hurt us a bit - forest is also covered in lots of darkness plants, i imagine an effect of the buildup of the pollution or darkness in the ground there, blooming out into the plants.

But, i think it still remains in a lot of the water, and while dilute enough in the river as to not hurt us ( just raindrops added to a flowing river coming from a clean place in the mountains, maybe )
The water probably flows somewhere, and along the way or at the end of the water's path the pollution would build up.

It might mirror a bit how people dump toxic things in rivers in real life, and how that stuff ends up contaminating the river a bit, but also flowing out to a lake, or the ocean.

Wasteland is a coastal area, and while we dont see it i'd bet that some of the wasteland pollution could have been washed there from forest.

the damaging rain during the quest of prairie peaks though definitely still stands out, i'd think that place would be uncorrupted, and there arent darkness plants on the way up the mountain there that i remember

[light minnow]

Maybe there could've been rain clouds pushed from forest to prairie by the wind maybe?

[edgy kernel]

hmm maybe, the areas are pretty close

in season of flight quests, there is one where darkness flies in from somewhere into the flight paths. could be the endless rain over forest sent some rainclouds over to prairie peaks, though id expect maybe it to spread some darkness around

maybe, it takes a lot more than a couple rainclouds to build darkness plants though, and maybe years and years of constant polluted rain

[light minnow]

I mean prairie in general does have a few darkness plants
It's a miracle that peaks is completely spared from them

[edgy kernel]

even sanctuary isle has a bit of it too, seems like prairie is spared most of it. though the stuff in isle seems to have come from people bringing it there, the crashed boats and containers

[light minnow]

Eh
I feel like the boats didn't really bring the darkness itself

Since well
The darkness covered the whole realms and killed everyone everywhere
I feel like that's a more likely source of darkness for basically anywhere

[crude thicket]

I'm not sure if this belongs here but I was in the Hermit's house and I saw in the distance that it seemed like there were 2 Edens, could one of them be Wasteland or is it an error?

Here's some photos I took of the mountains

Sorry for the quality, it got worse after downloading the photos from the console

[silk hinge]

im pretty sure thats just a bug since you dont see 2 mountains in anywhere else! also iirc, before season of shattering there were no eden view in the hermit valley. and after season of shattering, they added the view so you can se the shards shooting out from the mountain there :]

[crude thicket]

Oh I get it
Thank you

[fair mantle]

Guys after the furniture season what will be the next season after that…?

[versed mirage]

I hope it’s an Eden themed one. Aka shattering 2

[dreamy saddle]

if we have a home-obtaining season next i think a gardening one afterwards would be so cute, imagine travelling the realms to obtain seeds and growing a little garden. maybe bring trees to aviary

[spiral vault]

If you look at the Aviary intro cutscene, they seem to come from a place similar to Orbit

It would make sense for everything in Sky to originally come from Orbit

[spiral vault]

YES

[opaque coyote]

so like they just spawned out of orbit or smth? kinda like the big bang theory or smth is that what ur trynna say?

[versed mirage]

I think it’s more you take them to orbit, given you encounter all of them before touching the sun or whatever the ball is.

[celest birch]

That ball of light is, imho, the Origin Star.

[celest birch]

All the same; we need more lore!

[tough sky]

I believe gardening or something similar is planned and tgc is working on it

It might take time though

[edgy kernel]

that's certainly true, and my own thought is that everywhere would have been hit, and the farthest away areas hit less, but over who knows how long the amount of time, some of the darkness receded
none in isle, though its left as a desert
some in prairie

I think of sanctuary isle as a place that also would have dodged the corruption somehow, but around the island are lots of crashed boats and golden containers, like next to the polluted geyser, so personally i think the darkness was brought there and they didn't get wiped out with eden.
( also even some uncorrupted crabs there which are pretty rare )

[light minnow]

i feel like if boats had survived the shattering and brought darkness with themselves at sanctuary, they would've had a spirit memory for that no?

i feel like if darkness was brought there it was probably from before the shattering

these boats carry the same golden things wasteland had
i like to imagine those are wasteland merchandise

maybe they brought some pollution with them, which then expanded when darkness came over the realms

[empty belfry]

how do yall feel about the theory of eden being a mirage? its one of my person favourites because all ingame (non shaded) images we have of eden are all non destoryed

[light minnow]

I feel like that would kinda just
Destroy the entire weight of eden
It's a powerful moment where we sacrifice ourselves in order to help other people make it to orbit, it being a mirage immediately would cancel all of the impact this has

And also i see no evidence for eden being a mirage considering that we can see the storm raging over there from anywhere in the game
and we can see it erupting shards on a frequent basis

I've seen theories of the top of vault being a mirage but first time i hear that about eden
Also about your point of other images showing it not destroyed: these murals are from pre destruction eden, back when the world wasn't after an apocalypse

Remember: the whole basis of the story is that there was an ancestor civilisation that got wiped out by darkness destroying it all
It's one of the very few things the game tells you about its setting
So of course the murals from ancestors will be from said ancestors where alive

[oblique garnet]

I missed u, lore chat

[fringe condor]

The ponytail spirit runs down aviary every day with a smaller spirit as if it’s a child.

[oblique garnet]

Oh I didn't notice that it's the same spirit so there seems to be a theme/pattern

Originally, my whole point of that post was that those spirits reminded me of the two we see in one of the "Two Embers" scenes with a child, but I never checked the teasers since then and nobody replied to me about it so I assumed I was wrong. Gonna look if they are the same spirits now

[empty belfry]

ahh nono. i mean like, how when you view eden from far away, the png youre shownwhen seen clearly) is that of an eden not fully broken. almost like its still intact and the city it was before everything.

i think it adds a bit more weight though, to have the image of eden fsr away be a mirage, because when youre a moth on your first playthrough, you dont really know what to expect, but it still looks like its an intact city however when you get there its broken, not like the exclusive city it did before

mainly bringing this theory back because of a beta screenshot from skyblr i saw earlier lmao

[light minnow]

Do you have an image of that? i'm not entierly sure what you mean
I only remember being able to see the castle

[empty belfry]

mmm i have an image of the beta screenshot but as for live photos i have one from the concert that shows eden as a bustling, packed city(sort of)

[light minnow]

Ah yes the concert shows us the past kingdom so that's normal

It shows past versions of many areas, we see green grass in isle, cloud seas replaced by proper liquid seas, ect...

[empty belfry]

nono, i mean the venue itself, not inside the concert, lemme get the photos

this is the easiest place to see eden (imo) and you can see its not exactly,, broken(,???) its just sort of a piece of time thats out of place

[light minnow]

Ohhh i never realised this
The only thing left in the real eden are like the pipes

[empty belfry]

plenty of items(like the observitory(??)) are visible but they dont look broken

yeahh! this is why i love the theory of eden is a mirage

[light minnow]

Yeah now I see what you mean

[empty belfry]

its almost darker to see a city in the distance that looks so neat and tidy and not decayed and inhabited like the rest of the word, but when arriving youre met with destruction

eden mirage theory my beloved

[light minnow]

Yeah now i see why you love it

[oblique garnet]

Wait this resembles a scene shown in on of the "The Two Embers" trailers
maybe

[empty belfry]

it does! side by side the two are almost identical lol

[oblique garnet]

I'm guessing this is also pretty much confirmed right? The Ushering Stargazer and Rejecting Voyager finding the first Sky kid / Child of Light? And their presence in the trailers as well as in Aviary sitting together?

[spiral vault]

From our view, all we can see is the castle and the beam of light leading up to Orbit

Oh wait I see it know, it probably is a hallucination of some kind

[oblique garnet]

Unrelated but
The "beam of light" now made me think of how all the light in Eden wants to return to Orbit but is kept down there... maybe by the crystal

[spiral vault]

I think they're the same, and the child is probably the same one in the Prophecy murals

[spiral vault]

The beam of light is odd. In the two embers trailers, there's some scenes where there's a beam and some where there's no beam. Maybe the big crystal was trying to absorb all the light, but it was set free when it exploded.

So it was pre-diamond (beam), working diamond (no beam), exploded diamond (beam)

[oblique garnet]

So the diamond had a purpose of absorbing the light for something, but it didn't work because of something ?

Btw, do we know what the "Eye" part means for Eden? I mean I could probably just use the search function too but... I don't know what words to use to specify my search

[spiral vault]

It worked for a while, but something happened it got cracked, shattered if you will

[oblique garnet]

Noted

[spiral vault]

The central part of astorm is usually called the Eye. It's usually the calmest part, but it's a funny inversion here

[oblique garnet]

Oh, now I feel like I already asked that but forgot lol. That makes sense

[spiral vault]

Or Eden refers to the whole kingdom, and the "eye' is just the center

[oblique garnet]

Also do we know if the Ancestors died after the Elders fell? Because wouldn't they have ascended to the stars on their own otherwise?

Oh wait, maybe I ignored the fact that the spirits needed the light/flame to ascend

Anyway, I wanted to put the thought out there that the spirits not being able to move on to the "afterlife" could potentially be a trope of (not only) japanese mythology/media, where poes (spirits with an unresolved problem) might need to be guided to the afterlife so they don't get (too) corrupted or corrupt their surroundings or the ideas/minds of their people (this I have mainly from a Zelda theory video focusing on TOTK)

[oblique garnet]

Also about the Castle at the Summit of Eden: I noticed similarities in (again) japanese media like Ghibli and Zelda about giant "airborne" fortresses etc. and wondered what that might mean.
This quick Google search is in no way proper research, since I currently don't have the time. But I'm putting this here in hopes that someone may pursue it.

Again, I don't know if all this was talked about earlier but I'm mentioning it either way.
The connection of Megabird to mythological beings such as "Sky deities" or "Mother goddesses". (Also just quick Google search, needs deeper research)
things like

she bore stars
draw the dead into her star-filled sky (and refresh them)
The Great Divinity That Illuminates Heaven
ruler of the heavens
Sun
potentially tying to Orbit, the stars, the returning of ancestors and memories and light and its cycle etc etc, the Light, the orb shape

[opaque coyote]

do u think she created the elders for the sole purpose of governing or wtvr over the realms of sky too? bc i believed that the elders had come from a diff planet or universe and i think thats been confirmed (idk tho) but i just wanted to hear ur thoughts abt it

i believe either she created them and then become corrupted (hence why they exploited light creatures) or smth like that or that they've been doing this for a while w a certain purpose on other planets too but all the other times it hasnt worked, they also destroyed those planets, but this time it went to far and killed them too

i think its been mentioned b4 the elders r NOT nice ppl. well at least not all of them r

[oblique garnet]

Might be possible and I thought about that too, since the elders shepherd the fallen ancestor spirits back to the stars as said in the game, which is a pretty special role.
But I dunno enough about sky lore to give my thoughts on it tbh
I mean like, I don't feel confident about giving my thoughts on something here bc there's still so much I don't know and am not aware of

[opaque coyote]

true true sky lore is smth i will never get

[plain fern]

Read the Book “The girl who drank the moon” it is about the children of the light

[oblique garnet]

what does "wtvr" mean

[opaque coyote]

it means whatever lol

[opaque coyote]

if u want to know, i believe a RLLY old sky player make a document or smth like that explaining all the lore in sky!! i can dm it to u bc we arent allowed to share links here lol

[oblique garnet]

This reminds me of naruto xD
If you're talking about the elders getting corrupted, I guess that's possible, but if you meant megabird I wouldn't see how.
I'm not aware of anything that could hint towards the planets part, I mean it's still possible but a fundamental part of the game plays in Orbit which would be too close to a secret about different planets.
BUT what I just thought of, maybe the "stars" that return (aka the WL or spirits) could have some connection to other planets/solar systems/galaxies etc which still is a stretch but could work, who knows what TGC will add in later

[oblique garnet]

Is it baudshaw by any chance?

[opaque coyote]

i would like to say first the elders were nice and stuff then some of them got corrupted like the forest elder etc. but idk how that would happen. maybe greed? or power? like the megabird created them and they started getting a taste of all the bad stuff but then that just doesnt make sense for me bc sky was rlly pure in the early ages. and didnt tgc hint that the elders arent from this planet? idk tho. i feel like my theory just kinda clicks but then the question goes to like the isle elder or the vault elder and why arent they corrupted too? theres A LOT of loop holes bc of the amount of lore we r missing sadly. for winged lights i believe that the megabird created them or their essence of the kings soul either those 2 but for the spirits.... idk i feel like their supposed to be here

[plain fern]

In the book the girl who drank the moon it does mention this concept

[opaque coyote]

idk lol but their name on the article says amity206 so prob not

[plain fern]

“The girl who drank the moon book it describes this concept as a place “births light,space,time,every thing must return”

[opaque coyote]

thats on my tbr

[oblique garnet]

yea I can definitely see how the elders would get corrupted, their behaviors and stories could fit into that. But I've also once seen an image of how light and darkness are represented in the beings/creatures/objects of Sky, with mantas etc being pure light or dark plants being pure darkness (actually, dark is meant as in indifferent, like elders, king, dark stone), while sky kids and elders are "hybrids" which could have ties to your theory too.
And if you remember about the hint to other planets I'd love to see it or read about it!

[oblique garnet]

Which concept specifically?

[oblique garnet]

Hmm send me the link!

[opaque coyote]

im dming u rn!!!

[oblique garnet]

This is a mythological/spiritual concept too, the divine being that creates everything and absorbs it again, the cycle of "giving and taking" basically
Just like Megabird essentially
the expansion and collapse of the universe on a smaller scale lol

[opaque coyote]

yeah but the whole darkness stuff was after eden crystal explosion thingy so i would believe it was better b4 eden

[oblique garnet]

true, I think I misunderstood the graphic about the light/dark themes anyway so yea

[opaque coyote]

yeahhh honestly i do think the whole megabird related to sky goddesses has to be on purpose since usally everything tgc does is on purpose lolll im praying we get more lore in the tv show

[oblique garnet]

The graphic about light/darkness dark hybrid etc ("visual relationships of sky")
#lore-discussion-spoilers message

Oohh, nvm I misinterpreted the dark parts as darkness, but it's rather "indifferent" oopsie

[opaque coyote]

wait i forgot to add this, i believe it was mentioned somewhere in this channel abt tgc hinting elders arent from here if u look far enough ull find it prob lol

[dense inlet]

The Elders are in our hearts

[oblique garnet]

I found this but...

[opaque coyote]

yeah its prob not that. i think its in the document i sent u

[oblique garnet]

Also this and messages around it are interesting

[opaque coyote]

yeah that would make sense

although the sky kids i believe their from the megabird bc that just makes sense yk

[oblique garnet]

yes, they're the ones bound to the endless cycle of death and rebirth

That one linked message reminds me, I wanted to talk about the narrator too... Who is the narrator? Is it Megabird or a creature of light? Is it the Eden elder, a former sky kid, the hopeful steward or something completely different?

[opaque coyote]

maybe its the king lol. the hopeful steward would make sense tho

[oblique garnet]

Bc I noticed that one important role in the Two Embers trailers is someone who has a similar hairstyle to the hopeful steward, besides the child with stargazer and voyager obv

[versed mirage]

I feel like the King either won’t ever be revealed or we will get like him only in memories. He’s too important of a character to just make another normal person within the story.

[edgy kernel]

sortof a stray thought, but i wonder if maybe the boats were in the air when the shattering actually occured, and were knocked down, spilling the contents of those containers into sanctuary.
for a bit i've been thinking its likely the spirits we see in wasteland are post-shattering spirits as the apocalypse takes the world, living out their final days. so i maybe wonder, if those boats came with the containers from wasteland, maybe the shattering took the power out of all of them, or knocked them off course enough to crash.

[celest birch]

He kind of already is in murals, so memories, absolutely.

[upper mortar]

Did you know:
The floating scarf that the Spirit of Mural is wearing is called a Hagoromo (Heavenly-Feather Scarf) in Japan and it is a famous accessory found in most Asian mythologies. What makes this scarf special is that it symbolizes the wearers connection to the spirit realm and their Divine Status.

Only the deities are allowed to wear such garment. The fact that the Spirit of Mural is wearing a hagoromo means that she's an actual goddess. That must mean that there are more than one deities in the world of Sky besides The Light.

[versed mirage]

I would love however the devs put something related to him in the game that’s a semi active thing, like a spirit or something that walks around and is very closely related to the king, and never elaborates on it.

[chrome aurora]

I always thought the King was the child you met after turning to stone in Eden

[light minnow]

That's one of the theories

[cold sparrow]

I imagined the guide to be the deer itself in another form

[mortal iron]

does any1 has a doc or smth with all the lore? 👀

cuz I want to make ocs with lore and I want them to fit haha

[celest birch]

He might be ... or rather a fragmented part of him, that is.

[dreamy saddle]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[mortal iron]

thankss!

[celest birch]

Unless it's having its deity list arranged like the Hinduists, which pretty much have one overarching deity with other deities being the aspects of said deity.

looks towards the direction of all Skykids that had got hagoromo as Ultimate Deer Cape.

[nimble rock]

ok ik this isnt true whatsoever but every time i see a wl it always looks like a child in a hospital dress so i always sort of have this thought of like what if the child in the game is a child dying of cancer or some other chronic illness and they are sort of experiencing the entirety of life (like the theory of all of worlds being the different stages in life) before eden being the child don't make it through treatment. lol just a silly head canon i have

[celest birch]

I wouldn't put it past it that Winged Light has the same outfit we have as moths, which is the simple white shirt and short pants, which could technically be seen as something one would wear at the hospital.

I do find it very interesting that the default outfit does have the barely-visible "eye" grooves where the gemstone is in Skykid's chest, which is something only Elders have as well.

[nimble rock]

huh interesting

[celest birch]

Thus my hypothesis that Skykids/Skykid (due to narrative using the singular form for us) is the remnant of the King as well, only sent down from the stars to help bring other fallen stars home.

Aka spirits and Elders, with WL being other fragments of the King.

[errant kestrel]

I feel like the community of this game is super kind and totally different of the others

[nimble rock]

huh i see that

[celest birch]

It's because the game encourages such. x3

[errant kestrel]

Fr :)))

[cedar tartan]

I knoww! It scares me a little sometime ^-^' (I'm not used to people being this nice and touchy with me)

[errant kestrel]

Ah, sad

[cedar tartan]

Mhm, I wouldn't have it any other way though. I think it's nice that they don't have the instinctive need to make sure they don't bother people ^-^ (I genuinely hope I'll be as open and touchy in-game as everyone here one day)

(Oh wait) Mhm, but I'm gonna work on my mental health so I no longer have to be uncomfy when someone uses a triggering gesture! ^-^

[plain fern]

What were the elders childhood like?

[gilded tartan]

they were born that way

[opaque coyote]

maybe two embers is abt their backstory? like it shows tat the hoepful steward was alive doing the golden age and how everything went crazy etc.

[opaque coyote]

yeah that makes sense

[oblique garnet]

I mean, that's possible of course, but deities don't have to be the same in every culture or even the same among deities, this website I found suggests that the Spirit of Mural could also be a yōkai or saint etc.

With all the focus on the Asian/Chinese tale with the Season of NCD, it might just aim to imply the connection to the spirit realm with Asian/Chinese clothing, as the Mural itself is brought to life in the form of a spirit or potentially yōkai as seen in an early cutscene.

Edit: After researching a little, maybe the Spirit isn't a yōkai, which are often described as malicious or resentful. But instead a kami, which can count as a deity of sorts, but doesn't have to be like "Megabird" for example

[lucid bridge]

Moss in the Ark cave? Or is it sand?

[clear inlet]

oil-soaked sand probably

[upper mortar]

Exactly. Maybe the Spirit of Mural isn't as powerful as Megabird (The Light) and instead just a minor deity. Polytheism has this funny thing where they put hierarchies on the deity system and there are entities that may be considered a god but is not powerful enough to influence the very foundation of the world itself. They're like superheroes, not entirely a deity but they got supernatural powers that sets them apart from mortals.

[upper mortar]

With that in question, maybe there are other spirits/ancestors that has similar nature with the Spirit of Mural. Since magic does exist in the world of Sky, there might've been ancestors that were capable of wielding such magic to a certain level or were even born with magic. Like a wizard or sorcerers. That would be a really interesting topic to talk about

And who knows, maybe Sky Kids are considered a Minor Deity as well since the murals all over Sky shows that the people seems to revere them so much.

[upper mortar]

Just Mural Spirit low-key building a new pantheon by selling Hagoromos to the pass owners.

Mural Spirit:
Wanna be a deity? Well now you can! With only $14.99, you can get yourself a cool celestial scarf to show of to your friends and lord over the people beneath you. What are you waiting for? Buy now!1!11!!!!!

[celest birch]

Cue Cave of Prophecy murals.

[versed mirage]

Probably listening to the king

[rain frost]

helloooo im new and i have a question: im wondering where i can find out abt the technology in the kingdom of sky? im not sure which locations to study for this. (im making crossover art of a scientist character so i wanted to sky-ify his tech if possible). sorry if its a dumb question haha

[tough sky]

There are no dumb questions

Technology in Sky is not the thing I know the most about but I'll try my best to explain what we know

Most of it is powered by what we call darkstone, the thing we have to light up to open doors, activate lifts, other things like that

Darkstone seems to serve as a switch activated by you light, basically it brings your light to a place you cannot access
You have a lot of that in Hidden Forest but also in Treasure Reef, you should do the Season of Abyss quests if you haven't yet (if you're not thalassophobic too)

I don't know what type of scientist he is but maybe you could also go in the magic direction with coloured magic (which I know barely anything about but you can go to the Forgotten Ark and do the Season of Enchantment quests if you haven't done them yet)

There are also the bells which are used to call creatures of light and that are activated directly with light
For the bells you can see them in Daylight Prairie of course but also in the Aviary Village and again, if you haven't done the Season of Sanctuary and Season of Flight quests you can go do those

[light minnow]

technology in sky mostly revolves around the usage of light as a primary ressource it seems
the further you go through realms, the more advanced they become, with Wasteland and eden have full on industrial pipes and stuff
the abyss murals, and the forest temple, seem to suggest that they fueled darkstone by taking light from creatures. Which would then be used as some kind of magic battery
the stone itself i think we saw being mined in the giant cave near grandma during aurora
before darkstone it appears they mainly used jars of butterflies, we see them in prairie and a little bit in forest

[oblique garnet]

Yea true, the hierarchies could work with entities like Aurora or the Shattering Voids(?) or even "just" the Elders too.
I think my main point was that the very essence of deities is more often than not very different in western and eastern cultures, for example shinto deities being fully a part of nature, the river, mountains etc, but then I might've drifted a little bit from that topic lol

[oblique garnet]

This makes sense, like in that scene at Vault Summit, where all the Elders kneel/bow before us. Considering the Elders are quite powerful beings themselves, them collectively showing gratitude/honoring the Sky Kid is quite interesting.

But I think the Sky Kid is still serving the Elders, maybe in an equal way, because of how they treat us in the respective temple cutscenes, so we're not "higher up" in the hierarchy. Maybe they just greatly appreciate the flame that Megabird basically sent down to them.

[cobalt palm]

I kinda see the elders bowing to the child as respect and realisation that they are not as powerful as they tried to be, some powers lack other powers.
If the intro text "bring our lost stars home" is from the Megabird / The Light, then the most powerful entity understands that they cannot do everything, and sometimes have to diminish their power to achieve their goals, as otherwise they risk using too much power and causing more problems, like how the elders created the storm inadvertently through putting too much power into the Eden diamond.

[frosty nest]

random question, do the spirit memories have anything to do with the overarching lore, or are they just there as a task to get emotes?

[brave patio]

So it could also be an ascended human?

[tough sky]

Most of them interact with the area (especially the seasonal spirits) so they can all tell us something, even really small, it can be through their name, the actual memory or even their placement

[oblique garnet]

Ah, respect was a word I was looking for, yes! And the second aspect makes sense too, never realized that.

Also, I always forget that it's not completely safe to assume that the murals/narrations are from The Light, but still good point

[pastel brook]

Using emulators is against the Sky TOS, @oblique garnet. Please don’t use or discuss emulators here.

[oblique garnet]

bruh

[oblique garnet]

The possibility is there but I don't think it's very likely.

We can definitely see from the first cutscene that the Spirit of Mural is literally the mural itself, telling the NCD's story (maybe they're even the story/tale itself).
So if we assume that's how things are, a human/ancestor would need to have turned into the mural first.

But maybe I'm missing another possibility here.

I can also think of the whole area as an imagination, nothing really material. Since there's the VoK theory that it's not really physical but rather that it virtually illustrates (is that better, skybot?) how things were/are/will be etc.
So the Spirit of Mural as the only "real" thing there could just be a designated narrator by the responsible people for VoK to tell the tale of the NCD, and therefore could count as a saint, ascended human or a minor deity, essentially a human/ancestor/entity with special powers

Lol I think my theories are going a lil far
(idk if this is all I planned to say, skybot yeeted my original message)

[tough sky]

Before we got the room of collaborations, people were already speculating that the Starlight Desert was a sort of imaginary place, like we were brought into a storybook
I don't think that's the case because we can see Eden from the collab areas and there is a wind path to Starlight Desert

I think the reason why we have the Spirit of Mural is just so we could have Ultimate Rewards, with the Season of the Little Prince, we had the Little Prince who was used as a model for them
That was not possible since the main character of the Season of the Nine-Coloured Deer was not humanoid

So I think it's literally just the mural taking a human form, we also cannot interact with them like we can with most other guides with two player emotes

[crude thicket]

I always thought that it was the Deer taking a human form in order to interact with us easily and tell us its story

[celest birch]

Speaking of the Deer, today I had a funny instance of there being TWO 9-Colored Deer in the cutscene. I know it's a hilarious glitch, but at least it's kind of heartwarming too.

[celest birch]

Not to mention AURORA collab area just brings us into the Coliseum as well where AURORA is.

[cobalt palm]

I wondered if the guide for NCD was a personification of the mural itself

[crude thicket]

That sound so cute
The more Deers the better

[slim mango]

the question: why there's a eden on crescent lake (ncd place)? are it not erupt just like aviary village?

[rain frost]

just wanted to thank @light minnow and @tough sky for telling me about the tech of sky!! the darkstone and season of enchantment stuff could be very helpful :D

[light minnow]

If you have more questions don't hesitate to ask

[light minnow]

Eden is visible from anywhere in the realms (as long as nothing blocks the view)
So why would it not be visible there?

[slim mango]

well, yeah, it's my curiosity about it. :D

judging for shard erupt, only aviary village and crescent lake not occurred to see eden erupting.

[light minnow]

Are shard eruptions not visible from aviary and lake?
I didn't know that

[upper mortar]

The Nine-Colored Deer area is relatively new and would probably get optimizations in the future so the shard falls there too.

[brave patio]

Sometimes I wonder… when will two embers come out…

I mean I don’t mind if it’s coming out later than they said it would, I just wish they would have told us 🥲

[spiral vault]

It's either the spirits together, or the Hopeful Steward. There's narration like "rescue us from this darkness" and "we withered away".

I think it's the Hopeful Steward, representing all the spirits. They're like a bridge between the spirits and the skykids

[spiral vault]

I should fall everywhere! Including Prophecy Cave, Prairie Peaks, Wind Paths, Coliseum, and Treasure Reef

[spiral vault]

There's already some scientists in Sky (Jolly Geologist, Indifferent Alchemist) so I think it can work easily. Lazuli said basically everything I could think of

[spiral vault]

"It tells the story of two children, and the drama about the two of them trying to help people. One of them seeks power to change the world, but in the process he’s corrupted and destroyed. The other one tries to save the world by convincing the former world to give up its power. The boy becomes a king."

I found this on the wiki

I think one of them is the eden king, while the other is Steward

[leaden field]

Does losing wl hurt our skykids??

[clear arrow]

I have a lore question and this is my 6:30 am brain speaking...why do the sky kids continue towards the storm and the volatile crystal that spreads the darkness, are we trying to seal it? But failing to do so because of how immensly more powerfull it is?
Brain hurts from thinking

Please ping if you can try to answer that imma sleeb

[dreamy saddle]

I am also so eepy sleeby (2am for me) so this is more of a sleepy ramble, that said, I’m pretty sure the idea is that Eden acts as a natural point of rebirth for all the light creatures going there (seen through realms and in orbit) but ever since the storm raged after the shattering, the winged light stuck on the realms can’t make it through? Maybe? So like it’s our job as sky kids to shepherd the light through Eden, giving it to the sky kids who couldn’t make it fully through, giving our own life so they can ascend that light, and we ourselves are eventually reborn in this way too, to repeat the cycle.
That’s most my vague recollect of things I have heard before, please take with a pinch of salt

Oh there’s also a time loop theory somewhere but I don’t have the brainpower to poke a stick at that metaphorical nest

[clear arrow]

thanksies

[light minnow]

Getting extinguished does show pained animations, so i think that is the painful part
I dunno if losing wls in of itself hurts
If yes, they are very resilient considering what we do in Eden

[still kernel]

just get cold, recently helped moth, forgot how quick rain freezes them up

[oblique garnet]

Yea I was aware that the wind path makes the theory implausible, but missed the visibility of Eden.
That's why I was thinking of it as an artificial area created by people, rather than an imaginary hallucination or vision. Failed to specify that in my post tho.
This way, the Spirit of Mural could also just be a knowledgeable/sage person telling us about the NCD.

But as you said (which I didn't think about before), it makes sense to add a Guide that has humanoid ults for the players. So it could be just a personification/human form of the mural/story, a human form of the Deer, a personification of the Deer's legacy after "leaving" or just a mix of all seasonal spirits I guess.

The mural one could mean that all murals in Sky are magical (seems obvious tho) or somehow technological, or that all murals could potentially change into human form

[polar silo]

I dont know if anyone ever mentioned this, but i JUST realised that when you have a candle taken out (white one to gift a friend in this example ) then all wax to collect goes INTO the candle and not into the body of the Sky Kid

ill provide video evidence when sky on PC releases :)

[inland cliff]

I have another theory for starlight dessert that may sounds rough but is logical

So could it be that the map is technically a limbo? It was almost as if the map is covered in a Dream-like Aura, isolating it from the real world. Also think about how you get there, through a tunnel of clouds and a man-cave. I believe they are natural world-bending tunnels that are like the rabbit hole to Wonderland or some sort. The map description also said something along with "dream collides" which support my idea abit.

Very rough explanation since it's 3am out here so try to comprehend it

[crude thicket]

Considering that there are places from different planets that could make sense

[spiral vault]

their inner light compels them to move forward. They have to save the statues, no matter what happen to them. "Return the light to the fallen"

[spiral vault]

I think the Crescent Oasis and Starlight Desert are just part of one gigantic desert away from the other realms.

[tough sky]

Same
The Vault of Knowledge is really just a big tower

It's probable that there is a desert around and beyond it

[light minnow]

To me it doesn't sound like they're trying to do anything to the crystal
We're just trying to save the people turned into statues

[plush cave]

TGC released the Steam trailer on their YouTube platform!

https://youtu.be/feOR2GZxs2s

We are feasting

[rotund spindle]

Look at this Isle of Dawn ‼️

[plush cave]

Any idea what this stone might be? 👀

[shrewd mango]

No map shrine

[shrewd mango]

Nuetral Dark stone?

[nimble ingot]

new lore tidbits I noted:

• ancestors had stone tablets to read/write on 👀
• skykids had no capes. (Possibly because they did not have the winged light, or elders, to give them that blessing yet)
• The mantas flew alongside the boats. Quite possibly becuase they were following a path the ancestors and now skykids are using.

Also, Dawn had trees!

[rotund spindle]

What do you guys think this spirit is holding? 👀 And why are they clip-clapping it to scare the children
(It reminds me of hair straightener)

[brave patio]

Hijab / headscarf / shawl, a lot of spirits wear them

[rotund spindle]

Oh that’s not what I was referring to, edited my original message to clarify it

[nimble ingot]

I wonder why this child is sad.

Is it because they are leaving something/someplace/someone behind?
Is it because they are sad/worried about what/where they are going.

Also also, the tiny gasps, giggles and laugh the skykids make are so sweet.
They did have voices!

[brave patio]

OHHHHHH

Musical instrument like drum sticks? Wands to channel light magic?

[shrewd mango]

Saw a concept art somewhere of "Ancestors" children and "Descendants" Skykids. I forgot if it's in the Embers trailer but while the children are running in the village scene one threw their hand up I think that we can see their chest area and it didn't have the light thingy on it, so maybe since the prince may have been the 1st skykid. He's the only one to have the cape?

[nimble ingot]

I wonder if it could be a wooden clapper.

Something that can make a noise that clearly got the kids attention.
I this ancestor was like a teacher or caretaker, and that stick was used to keep them in line like a discipline stick.

[shrewd mango]

I looked back at the official animation trailer and here's what I'm referring to 👀

[shrewd mango]

Same person?

[bitter topaz]

Definitely! Same amulet/brooch

[nimble ingot]

wind symbol, wind symbol.

This ancestor possibly related to the season of prophecy?
Could this be one of the praying ancestors we saw in the temple of prophecies?

[bitter topaz]

I wonder if they're ferrying orphans away from a place that darkness is beginning to take over? That's why he's sad, he's leaving his mom/someone he cares about behind

[shrewd mango]

Also maybe different person but just same clothe/uniform but

[nimble ingot]

ah, then perhaps that kid had a reason to be sad.
they left the sick ancestor behind.

So, we got the kid in the first teaser, another that lived with the ushering stargazer and their friend, the one with the manta friend, and this one with the brooch.
4 kids?

[rotund spindle]

I gtg rewatch this brb

[nimble ingot]

different headpiece.
Possibly a different ancestor

[ornate rampart]

Wow, so TGC has always given us animations related to the series for each lauch trailer of the game in different platforms, at least for Switch and Steam.
It's a pity the PS trailer had a different direction

[shrewd mango]

Ohh okay, thanks for the explanation! I don't really have that much information about the next children to descent after the prince and Stewie(?) so thanks for that

[nimble ingot]

stewie be the steward from revival?
Lol

[shrewd mango]

Yes

[rotund spindle]

In this part, it seems like there are lots of children wearing similar clothing which I assume to be uniform 👀 . Could it be that they’re all sent away to learn magic of light from that ancestor

Unrelated to above,

Why the need for rowing? xD

[oak falcon]

slides in chat
aight chatters fill me in what goods are we talking about

[hallow pilot]

Talking about why they are moving to the elder tower. Maybe they are “newborn” ancestrors and they are being brought somewhere to be adopted by an “adult” ancestor.

[arctic sphinx]

GUYS NEW TRAILER

[oak falcon]

scrolled up a bit and speed-read a bunch of juice stuff lore nerd noises

[hallow pilot]

As for the ancestor that uses the sticks maybe they are mute and can’t speak? Since we hear chatter at the beginning of the video and the kids laughing, but this ancestor doesn’t make a noise.

[arctic sphinx]

Control the boat maybe, that's kinda answer where they need to control that

Anyway, why in the world is the platform in isle and isle temple so far away while in game is just 10 seconds to go there?

[pastel hull]

Bonking misbehaving manta maybe..?-

[oak falcon]

i don't think it's far away.... maybe the boat's just slow.

i'm looking at the shot with the green Isle part with the Temple in the distance.
eh, maybe the boat's just slow...

[hallow pilot]

What if the ancestors teaching included what tipe of light they had affinity for? For example the chopstick ancestor has affinity for the light that includes the air? (I don’t remember what colour was it)

[oak falcon]

also Isle used to be less cloudy

[arctic sphinx]

I have theory the kids will go to trials

[oak falcon]

so how do clouds manifest?
do they grow?

[hallow pilot]

And a big part of land that we can’t access.

[arctic sphinx]

Clonk clonk, i hope this will not to use to slap children

[dull bobcat]

Don't know if anyone's pointed this out yet but that's the trail of water symbol

[nimble ingot]

Historically and realistically speaking; it may have been used to discipline children.
However, this would had to be done when a child has stepped way over the line.

[nimble ingot]

water?
I thought it was air lol

[arctic sphinx]

That's air

[dull bobcat]

Oh wait someone else I was laking to said water

[nimble ingot]

I have been Bamboozled

[dull bobcat]

Talking*

[arctic sphinx]

Oh, same i guess as regular ruler lol

[versed mirage]

Dude a whole tower was at the end of isle and it just disappeared?

Actually I think I’m dumb and the clouds are just covering

[nimble ingot]

exactly.

My best guess why they did not go with the typical wooden ruler may have to do with their own measuring system potentially being different.

But like I said, it is just a guess.

[nimble ingot]

You are not dumb

That is a good observation there.

There are a few other subtle differenced between the animation and the in game environments.

The abundant amount of derails the animations have sadly does not match the simplistic style of the game.

One has more details for you to soak in. The other implies more details that it lacks.

[arctic sphinx]

There's no book in sky, they use wood

[pallid dust]

It seemed to me that these were stone tablets

[arctic sphinx]

I dunno, between that maybe

[frigid tinsel]

Timid Bookworm would beg to differ

[edgy kernel]

the sound it made when they were movin the tablets around seemed pretty stone like to me, but it could maybe be some hardwood or very stone like wood, petrified maybe

[pallid dust]

Lol, yes. Although the time in the project may be further away than when the bookworm lived.

I'm still not sure if it's a tree. After all, stone tablets were used in life not because they are easier to make, but because they are more durable

Although maybe I'm wrong

[celest violet]

It’s quite possible that each realm have a different status of Technology. So Isle of Dawn could have only used stone or wood tablets

[vast geyser]

Ok good to see the lore channel hasn’t exploded yet

[plush cave]

Same spirit?

[vast geyser]

Oooh good catch

There were multiple spirits wearing those outfits so it could be a uniform or actually the same person

[plush cave]

Hey Lorechat, the 0.25.0 update is out and the new intro sequence to the game got updated.

I think you’ll like this

[vast geyser]

awww thats cute

waking up in isle will always be iconic but this is nice too

[crude thicket]

Awww so cute

[plush cave]

I think this is extremely interesting. This is how we find / found our candle?

[light minnow]

Oh so the candle isn't an innate thing
We just yoink it like "dis mine now"

[dreamy saddle]

I mean the candle is kind of just a vehicle for the flame inside us to interact with outside things, yeah? Since light in chest vanishes when you take candle out

[light minnow]

So does this happen right after we land after losing all our light ?

[dreamy saddle]

I’d suspect it’s just upon first entry to the game, not every rebirth??

[light minnow]

I meant losing our light in the first entry
Iirc the aviary intro has us crash down and lose all our light
Like you start off in the sky with max wings and then the landing is not pleasant

[crude thicket]

Oh yeah, right after that you find the candle and the Hopeful Stewart

[edgy kernel]

i wonder if that even more heavily implies steward was a sky kid a long time ago, whos flame burned out right there. so we take their candle and use our flame to bring light back

also i guess it could just be any candle, not any one in particular

[winged flame]

This is not lore related and I am so sorry but this reminds me of the pick a card any card line a magician would use
"Pick a candle! Any candle! "

[edgy kernel]

ooooh not that one!
are you sure you want to choose that one?

[winged flame]

erm! Yeag! hell yeah! Bueno!

[light minnow]

cuts to a moff carrying around a giant candle taken out of a cake

[edgy kernel]

one of those big number or letter ones LOL

[reef flax]

Now we know we can practically light candles on the star on our chests like a match

And the
'A might flame burns with you,
Ours vanished long ago'

Its such a take in to think abour the perspectives this could be takin place in

[versed mirage]

They give the candle significance like in light awaits, I genuinely like that change

[plush cave]

There’s more of that intro text too! I’ll share as much as I can

[plush cave]

Oooh, can you elaborate?

[versed mirage]

In light awaits, the candle sorta materializes and you’re given it in a cutscene. At least that’s what I’ve seen from old footage

[plush cave]

New intro text, in order (up until Isle of Dawn)

[plush cave]

Ohhh👀 I’ll ask a fossil

[trim mural]

I just saw the steam release trailer and aaahhh

[spiral vault]

I think they're not skykids, but young spirits

[spiral vault]

Then the second image has to be in the Cave of Prophecies

[spiral vault]

ITS SO PEAK

Maybe it's Hopeful Steward's candle???

But what are the bells?

[plush cave]

Right!!!! That’s what I like to think as well.

Seems very confirming to the theory of Steward once being a skykid, too.

What bells btw?

[spiral vault]

At 0:12

[spiral vault]

We'll probably see them in Two Embers as well, then

[reef flax]

Me adding this onto the rest of the intros Ive collectes

[tough sky]

You have a collection of intros?

[reef flax]

Specifically beginning intros yes

[reef flax]

I have an intro from back in 2021 where the game sequence opens in homespace
One where you light up the Recall/Waystone in the Aviary Village
And now this new one from the 0.25.0 update

It gives such a perspective on who is telling the player this

Like the original intro being of Megabird telling us to go forth is my own personal theory
And the one in Aviary Village being of the Revival Guide telling us that in their own perspective as a Spirit
Both witnessing the two perspectives of the downfall of the Sky Kingdoms

The one right here gives off the perspective of maybe another Spirit, saying ‘Uncover our darkened Kingdom’

[upper mortar]

WAKE UP, NEW SKY LORE JUST DROPPED

https://youtu.be/feOR2GZxs2s?si=NkKhhrqECcUVzyHP

[opaque coyote]

so isle of dawn didnt always be a desert, thats interesting i wonder how it came to be that way

[lucid bridge]

Lowkey jarring to hear ancestors breathing and laughing
but also…
TREES! LIVING TREES! TREEEEES

Man, what happened to the Isle of Dawn to make it change so drastically? That’s desertification if I’ve ever seen it. Maybe overfarming? Idk

Also it’s so cute to see the little kids running around

[trim mural]

I was thinking the same, like it was jarring for me as well

kinda makes me realize how much more devastating things could've been for them once things started to go really bad

[radiant berry]

Hi! I just got here and am new to sky! I was wondering if someone could give me a (small or big) summary of basic/known lore? /nf

[nimble ingot]

I nearly blinked and missed this detail.
The poor boat ferryman has the dark crystals on their forearms.
Just like the one that was seen with the child hugging an ancestor in a previous teaser.

These poor ancestors had not been well off with this darkness. The crystals on their bodies were surely not a comfortable sight.

[nimble ingot]

Sky lore has a way to tell a story through the world you explore and the characters you meet.

The lore is not completed because some parts of the story were left open to the player's interpretation.
A notable example would be the neutral pronouns for the ancestor spirits' genders. While you are welcome to go with your interpretation of a spirit (he/her/them/any), although the would default to they/them.

The world of sky has Light and Darkness. These energies were once balanced and the ancestors used to live in harmony with one another and the creatures of the realms.
The realms were also under the guardianship of the Elders, who once had a King who ruled over Eden and the realms.
Darkness began to spread when the elders had fallen (see Dawn's tutorial text mentioning this when you approach the cliff on the way to the temple).
The Eye of Eden (the massive red crystal at the end of Eden) had Shattered and the Dark Dragons (Krill) were corrupted from the Darkness (which implies there was once a Light Dragon).

Many years had passed since the last of the ancestors had fallen and their spirits were trapped in the realms. Unable to pass on with the gates to Eden sealed shut. Reaching Orbit is more or less the way for the ancestors and creatures to ascend, and potentially be reborn (not sure if the ancestors were applicable to the rebirth part, but the light creatures and skykids do seemingly apply).

Our skykids' mission is to help restore balance in the realms.

• find and free the ancestor spirits
• cleanse the darkness they can find in the realms
• shepherd the souls of the fallen in Eden (the skykid sized statues we see in Eden are called the Fallen).
• then be reborn from Orbit to continue their journey

The game said this phrase when I was reborn for the first time, and should still appear for skykids today.
"The real Journey starts here..."
This implies the story does not end when you reach Orbit, and that the story continues with the skykids we play as today.

[edgy kernel]

hmmm... I really find that interesting. The world here looks in perfect condition, i wonder if darkness like that on people might have been an early sign of darkness spreading through the realms, and if that became more common later on.

And just a random thought, i wonder if something like that could have happened to the twins

[arctic sphinx]

The darkness is like disease to people

[edgy kernel]

valley sorta seems like in a timeframe right before the shattering to me, so maybe you can interpret stuff like that as signs of the darkness to come

[proper pumice]

A sneak peek just dropped and I can't wait hehe

[white rivet]

did the spirits have actual names or did they actually call eachother stuff like "peeking whisperer" or "foolish idiot"

[nimble ingot]

open to interpretation, I suppose?

[spiral vault]

They probably have actual names, but we just give them our own names.

[clear inlet]

The mentor in the trailer has the air symbol as a brooch on their cloak...

and their mask has a smaller version of the forehead thingy we see on the masks of the vault spirits - is this a sign of wisdom?

[spiral vault]

I think they're Prophecy related

[tough topaz]

Nevermind, I found what I was looking for :>

[fallow socket]

does anyone have thoughts on the main kid in the trailer potentially being prince alef? i have seen a couple of people suggest it and there are some similarities between the kid and some of the prince's concept arts... though that could also be coincidental or me looking too much into it

[inland cliff]

Could it be that the trailer is a preview of how the Sky Kingdom operates?

It's possibly an ancient selecting system in which children are sent out to the Elders to determine their future and how they'll contribute to the lands

[brave patio]

Omg you’re right… I wonder if it means they’re connected to the prophecy

[brave patio]

My own personal theory is they had names, but forgot them and so we call them what they did

[inland cliff]

I don't think they are necessarily related to the prophecy/Trials but it does relates to the elements

It could be that magic of nature is relevant at the time, they likely have air element since they can operate the ship

[brave patio]

Oh!! And the spirit in the other trailer had darkness arms when they gave the young spirit the blue darkstone pin… I don’t have a picture but the kid is the one we see in the most recent trailer

[royal delta]

oh wait-
Sorry to interrupt but does that mean darkness crystals have existed way before the down fall of sky?

like its some illness that the ancestors had to deal with?

[plain fern]

Maybe, because if you refer back to the days of darkness, it corrupted the light and if you refer to eye of eden or season of when the shard was made you can assume that the shards have been around for a long while

[plain fern]

I believe that the shards are the reason for the down fall

[royal delta]

i meant like, have those types of shard in their bodies existed way before the total darkness and appearing of red shards

[plain fern]

I unfortunately don’t know but I will definitely take a look into this

[royal delta]

me neither, cause i'm now thinking there's different type of shards.
Cause the one that we have (whenever in eden or just losing light) shows that their bigger sharp light shard compared to the shards we saw in other shots. The ones i saw seem to be smaller but spread in groups and seem to hurt the skin

[plain fern]

Oh right the rocks, they rain down, I believe because of the darkness

[nimble ingot]

I am not sure, to be honest.

I have not looked at timeline theories, so am not sure whether this was before the Shattering/downfall of eden, during or after.
All I know is it is definetly in the past and when the ancestors were still alive.

[dreamy saddle]

Guys the mentor in the steam trailer is this figure from the two embers trailer. My guess is he is taking the children to the cave of prophecies for them to complete the trials? Possible means kids with broach we r seeing is probably the future king?

Another detail, he seems to be often shown wearing the cloak of his parental figure (and presumably her broach too I think?)

Also this clip from an animation teaser shows him travelling alone with a single seemingly armored guide, so I’d guess this is either on route to someplace multiple children are picked up for the prophecy trials, or it could be his travel after becoming the child of prophecy

Tho we see the same creature briefly in one of the teasers and it has a different rider and multiple passengers. Could be different creature from different scene tho

I wonder if they’re from wasteland? Light in head would be helpful in dark areas and second appearance of it has a crab watching the kids on it. Also I think they’re most likely to have been corrupted into krill

[dreamy saddle]

Ah I see someone else has mentioned this before

[rocky brook]

I just wanna say, I feel like it'd be interesting if the journey creatures were ancient ancestors of the skids, even long before the skids from Two Embers. That's all anyway bye bye, also I imagine they are like 7'0+ and tower over the current day skids

[inland cliff]

It's crucial to khow that dark stone is either stones that are black or corrupted stones/shards

The black stones are a revolutionary thing as they are what people used to build ships powered by light and started the Sky kingdom in the first place

The corruption began when people became over-reliant to it, causing exploits and sky scrapers
Although it is unknown when the "infection" (shown in trailers and piggybacks memory) started. Maybe the infection effects both living and static beings

[lucid bridge]

Dark crystals also show up naturally (see the large deposits in the Prairie Peaks). The ancestors mined it and then used light creatures to charge the dark stone batteries. The Elder of the Hidden Forest probably pioneered this process (we can see them build a dark stone crystal in their cutscene). The dark stones may have been a limited resource, along with the light creatures they were killing to create fuel. The destruction of the environment and the stripping of natural resources is why the ancestors’ kingdom collapsed. That, and the apocalypse-causing Eye of Eden blowing up and getting corrupted.

This is a headcanon, but I believe that the reason why some islands of land float is because they have large amounts of dark crystal ore in them, which causes them to levitate. My evidence for this is that we see dark crystals supporting the floating platforms and buildings in man-made structures in the game.

Something that is quite sad and also disturbing is that ALL of the ancestors are dead. There are none left. They’re extinct.

Something that is also disturbing is that we see masks of many animals, but we don’t actually see those animals in-game. Jackals, weasels, bats, just to name a few. But, we have seen more animals in the game over the years. There’s the eel, the deer (tentative - idk if the deer is alive or dead), we see spider webs (indicating spiders), and we hear frogs and owls. So… maybe nature is healing?

I understand that the devs can’t ACTUALLY put all those animals in the game - it’s a mmorpg, not an environment simulator. But there’s already the theme of extinction and environmental destruction in the game, so i don’t find drawing these conclusions too crazy an idea

[versed mirage]

Wait if that’s the case, the murals depict those that failed the trials. So did they just kill a ton of people before they found one capable of finishing the trials?

[dreamy saddle]

I’ve always assumed the children we see in the prophet memories were all being trained for the trials, but none of them made it. Sad but most logical to assume imo

So they were rounding up kids to bring to the cave, train, and attempt the trials. The prince was the first to succeed.

[brave patio]

Who else is tuning into the upcoming Sky stream in hopes the devs spill some lore?

(We got tiny bits last time so I’m hoping for more)

[edgy kernel]

what kinda stuff did they spill last time

[hushed steeple]

Hey people, what does sassy drifting have to do with the gratitude season?

[brave patio]

“Dark plants are slippery because they are oily and that’s a pollution metaphor”

“We are thinking about how to add farming and cooking to the game”

We got nothing this stream but they did play the steam trailer at the end

[edgy kernel]

ahh, both of those are very interesting things as far as im concerned

dark plants being slippery is kinda funny to me on a "i keep slipping off this stupid thing" kinda way LOL

[cold sparrow]

context?

it's just... one of the spirits that were added with the Season of Gratitude

[spiral vault]

They definitely are the Eden Elder/Alef... the question is if they're a skykid or ancestor spirit

[spiral vault]

Missed 1 Eden Statue?? I destroyed Eden!

[old wagon]

So, do we know what exactly are Krills? And what is the Leviathan??

[native pawn]

is Oreo just secrety a sky dev/ mods taking a break? thats why it has cute pathfinding patterns

[vagrant blaze]

I'm a little curious, if Sky's entire world is presented in the form of a spherical planet, what would the surface of the planet look like?

The surface structure of the sky world

[hallow pilot]

About a conversation earlier on, maybe instead of sending thousands of ancestor children to an immediate death they did some minor test to see if the child passed them. If the child did pass them, then they would send the child to do more tests. Every time a child would pass a trial it would be sended to another trial with haier status and difficulty, until reaching the profecy trials. Like in our world when someone starts competing, they start with local competition and they clime the ladder until reaching a world championship.

[manic rose]

Guys, are krills have a metal sound of gear wheel or it's just my imagination? Does it mean krills aren't naturally created creatures?

[cobalt cliff]

there is a theory they are some sort of technological invention powered by dark stone. made to detect light and "collect" it for the purpose of making more dark stone. which would make sense for their unnatural red/blue light and lack of any other awareness than sight.

[cobalt cliff]

Megabird:)

[cobalt palm]

A member of the Facebook group shared a video of the new intro, it now also shows the Skykid collecting their candle from next to the Steward, unlit.
They put the candle into their chest, embers burst and spiral around, and pulling out the candle from their chest it is lit.

We know the ancestor spirits created candles from the isle murals and candle maker spirit, could it be that spirits used to have this ability too, or was there a prophecy about skykids needing candles when they arrived, so the Steward came prepared?

[mortal sparrow]

Okay so from the PC launch trailer, all the humanoid ancestors are most likely made from either clay or some kind of stardust material from space.

I don't remember what space rocks are made from, but I'm assuming that's what they're made from from the looks of it.

[tawdry copper]

Iirc Krills are confirmed to be corrupted Light Creatures, so it's kinda a mix of both? Like, they're still "living" creatures, just turned into monstrosities by having their light drained

[inland cliff]

Lol ppl forgot Sky™ has a surface level since we only contact with the realms above on the Sky™

I suspect isle is a part of the surface , since it's where the age of black stone and stars usage starts which is what leads to ppl moving to the cloud layers in the first place, plus isle is ocean-surfaced

[brave patio]

Plus it seems like the people who did the trials got trained by the prophets?

[inland cliff]

Cooking in sky?
Wonder if it'll be Terraria or Cooking mama™

[slim mango]

Source: #1009676335255408760 message

The next Season starts soon, so it’s time to meet the newest Spirit in Sky—the Nesting Guide!

📏 Their motto: “Measure twenty times, cut once”

💭 Gets some of their best ideas while hiking

🤫 Secretly still loves making blanket forts

🤝 Hopes to have an apprentice someday

[edgy kernel]

huh, that looks like a totally new artstyle for spirits

[spiral vault]

The Hopeful Steward is definitely a Skykid. It might be their candle, but they dropped it/left it

[cobalt palm]

Maybe all ancestors had candles, it's possible, though unlikely they could also pull them from their chest, as we don't see any evidence of it in the memories, and they don't have the chest glow like we do, but then they have lost their light.

[spiral vault]

The chest glow seems to be a skykid-only thing

[cobalt palm]

Yeah in their current state of being spirits, but clearly candles were important to them, as almost every populated realm has some candles

[deep sandal]

Ah it’s a planet, I oobed with a friend in Eden and we flew into nebulas and saw the sun and the sky planets horizon though not the entire planet cause we only went up like an hours worth into space

[winged flame]

I wonder if grey is the colour of mourning for them, since the trailers depicts the spirits wearing more colourful, vibrant clothing than the ones in the actual game

Like how they put people in black clothes ( like. A suit or something) before burying them

[rain frost]

maybe it's because we can't truly speak to them since they're spirits, so we can't ask their true names and thats why we call them by those epithets

[fiery hamlet]

I have a headcanon that SkyKids are some kind of clay golems, and that they don’t fully understand human emotion. So when they learn a new emote, they just kind of go “woah that’s cool, lemme try!” and start pantomiming what they see the ancestor spirits doing.

[dire night]

@dire night eh the sky children understand just fine. They're like new born babies so they are learning about the world, not that they cant understand them.

[dire night]

The spirits do in fact have names. We already know the names of the elders. But the names like Pointing candlemaker and lively navigator and stuff like that are names that the skykids gave them.

[swift helm]

is there any lore on why skykid let out a smoke when they fly?

[lucid bridge]

They seem reminiscent of contrails produced by airplanes

So skykids are basically creating little clouds behind them when they fly.

[scenic pelican]

Hey lore chat, I just wanted to share a little theory I have since quite some time now.

Journey and Sky might be set on the same planet.
Simple.. when you buy the Journey pack on PS, it comes with a message saying "A traveler from across the sands of the desert"

Kinda remind me of Wasteland's desert, since it's bigger than we think (Think of Crescent Oasis or the Memorial, it's huge) and considering Journey has it's own "Eden", what if Journey actually takes place in the exact same country, maybe not the same era, but on the polar opposite side of the Sky Kingdom? Right BEHIND Eden, what do you think about it?

[waxen ermine]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message Check this out! I filmed myself and it is indeed what happens, the candle comes in and out of their body. It's easier to see in trials.
It's hard to see, but for a split second when you remove the candle, the chest light goes out. When it's put back in, the sky child pats their chest and it lights up again.

[dreamy saddle]

The elder names are only used in concept art though and aren’t taken to be canon to the game as it is now

[waxen ermine]

Also, something I realized about this picture

I thought they were showing the origin of how they made the Leviathan, but I figured out I was wrong
Its actually showing every manta
Doing what? Who knows... If they're being used to turn into diamonds, or being made to collect diamonds or they're genetically engineering the mantas into elder mantas..
Importantly those diamonds power up machines in this world

Also been established that there's some environmental message in this game, like all the machines they're making, all the wars they're having causes pollution which attracts darkness and dark monsters
(Remember the krills came when there was a war during the Aurora song, and they had to stop fighting and hide, or when the Nine Colored Deer was killed)
Krills seem to come during that occasion

I dont know if the leviathan/abyss monster was also attracted for the same reason with the diamonds

(Maybe the cosmic mantas in the Vault of Knowledge is their scientific genetic enginering perfected, and they were able to make beautiful mantas and elder cosmic manta. It certainly doesn't seem to be a natural place for them to live in... Well, either they were created here or a whole building was built around them)

I would love to know any other lore Im missing

[waxen ermine]

Small cosmic manta, regular cosmic manta and elder cosmic manta

I would love to suggest that the Krills were genetic engineering failures of elder mantas created during the war that broke out and attacked everyone but there doesn't seem to be anything pointing to it
Probably just natural forces of darkness

Its always assumed crabs are dark creatures, but these little guys can hang out at parties and wear hats and sunglasses, and during the Nine Colored Deer season it's one of the friendly animals that helps you and flies around (It was hilarious to see the crab flying) So maybe they're neutral. If you free the ones on the skewer in Dark Wasteland, they will start releasing cute little hearts and won't attack you

[celest birch]

Where did you get that last centipede-looking elder manta image?

[waxen ermine]

Sanctuary, they appear during the sanctuary quests
(Sorry for late reply there was a slowmode)

You will also see it jumping in and out of the water, I thought it was a whale

[celest birch]

It´s mainly because Daily Quests call them "Dark Creature Crabs" when you get them ... and honestly, given how they´re passive when they´re not having darkness growing on them, I categorize them as neutral as any Light Creature, only that due to having Dark origins they don´t emit light and are actually capable of eating it.
Aka exact opposite of Light Creatures, which emit light.

[waxen ermine]

They will even help unflip flipped crabs, thats super cute

[celest birch]

No worries, thank you! And honestly, they kind of look like giant whales when jumping out of the water.

Yes-yes and since they also got a plush variant together with the manta ... yeah, they´re neutral Dark Creatures unless having darkness growing on them.

Which could possibly imply some nightmare fuel-type situations when it comes to Krills and especially the Leviathan.

[waxen ermine]

Yeah, I wonder if they're innocent creatures covered in darkness
I also remembered the crab in Nine Colors season was scared when the Krill came out and hid in the sand
It was cute having to reassure it and lead it back to its friend the deer

So... Light creatures die when exposed to darkness, neutral creatures get corrupted by darkness and dark creatures die with strong light (like during trials or what happened during the Nine colors thing)

Eden is also a confusing point, does anyone know the lore for it?

I’m guessing it was the most powerful technological diamond they had, strong enough to cause ascension
But something went wrong, it went out of control and the elders tried to stop it but all died in the process

There’s also something else that confused me… in the season of shattering, they chose to put a winged light of two children hugging on top of the diamond

They could have chosen the regular winged light but… why the two children hugging, with the elders all swarming around as it began to explode? And it counts as one winged light anyway

[celest birch]

Kind of like that, yeah; and neutral creatures can accept both light and dark, with darkness being like a disease, which is actually what we as Skykids show as well; when charged with light, we go fast and we can fly while if we start to grow dark crystals on ourselves, then we lose strength and become sluggish, kind of like rock beings.

[waxen ermine]

Ooh! Yeah!

[spiral vault]

TLDR: I went kablooey (I'll give a long answer)

[celest birch]

My headcanon is that Eden was supposed to be a capital of the Kingdom, with the King being both the ruler and the key person to keep the Diamond of Eden (or the actual Eye itself) in flux and redirecting its energies to the whole of Sky, as shown by the mural ... and somewhere down along the line, it became overcharged for unknown reasons (it´s presumed that it´s due to Heavenly Light that you can still see go down towards it aka the King and potentially other Elders tried to use that as the power source to pretty much try to determine the fate of the world itself, given how this light is used by creatures and Skykids to ascend ... and due to that, it´s so powerful no Darkstone - Diamond of Eden is presumed to be a giant Darkstone - is able to withstand it, no matter how big), which caused the Shattering explosion and pretty much caused the downfall of the Kingdom with Elders perishing and the King literally being eradicated + parts of his very spirit both being absorbed by the Diamond and scattering around the Kingdom, forming what we know as Winged Light.

[waxen ermine]

King? Mural? Can you send?

[spiral vault]

That's quite controversial, sadly

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[celest birch]

Thus 2 Skykids hugging ontop the Diamond of Eden in Elders Memory could be the callback/call-forward to when we meet the Child of Light after perishing in Storm Lock and hugging them; it knows what we do.

[celest birch]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/sky-children-of-the-light/images/0/00/Mural-eden-second-room-wall.png/revision/latest?cb=20220808182650

The Winged Light that we do get being the fragment of the King while the other Child of Light (that we don´t get wl from) being an intangible memory/vision ... of us.

[waxen ermine]

Wait.. does it mean we’re inside the diamond when we die? We do see the same stream of light going upwards
(The one that appears after you hug the winged light and it’s the same as the one spewing out the diamond)

[celest birch]

Technically yes, as given how the Void works it tends to show up when we´re either inside a creature or a thing´s memory.

[waxen ermine]

Black voids have been used to imply “inside something” like when we get eaten by the leviathan, instead of being in a room we’re in a black void

[celest birch]

#timing

Also, speaking of passive Dark Creatures, one does not simply forget the passive Krills at Cackling Crab.

[waxen ermine]

True!
Huh!? It’s not Halloween, silly nickname scheme!