lore-discussion-spoilers

[lyric imp]

A big one is leviathan from abyss and its origin. My opinion is that it came from a long manta creature that ancestors created, but for some reason a few people think it came from a large eel due to shape and protrusions similarity

Whole eden diamond is a huge piece of lore. A popular theory regarding its purpose is some kind of reactor, though it could also have been some kind of spiritual beacon, memory storage, or connection point with orbit and light

In terms of its origin, probably built by the king and infused with a large amount of creature souls. Shattering poems seem to strongly hint at it, as well as the comment on the TGC website that Raider has shared yesterday. Shard memories may be just those creatures' memories before they got absorbed

I'm not sure i get 'performence controversy' correctly, but it sounds like it relates to the forgetful storyteller quest and whether the story is related to the king and what is its lore signifficance

[lyric imp]

Oh, and the beam. It's so inconsistent and ambiguous that we know probably less about the beam than the crystal itself. And most of what we know comes from concept art

[latent tendon]

Is there any theories explaining why the void of shattering even exists

[lyric imp]

Baudshaw and Chipbeam think the king became the void of shattering upon his death; imo that place is the consciousness of the diamond portreyed as a place

[hushed steeple]

Your on 😂

[rapid latch]

So when we enter the shattering void, we go inside resh’s body (what’s left of it)

We basically go inside resh

[lyric imp]

I don't even know how this originated but i guess it's a theory that exists

[hushed steeple]

Im not to shure about it
Especially with the old plot point of the giant corupted king final edan boss no longer being cannon, I dont really think thats the case anymore😅

Dont forget that we enter this kind of void world at the end of edan and experiance the shater memorys .....
But also when we got swallowed by the 1000 eyed beast

And then there there's the whole thing with the triles, which is not really the same place, but is also a realm that kinda exists outside normal phisical space

Now I must admit, I cant say for absolute curtainty or proov what the void is.

My best estimation is that is a kind of limbo, a state of being or transiant world that exists between life and death, real and unreal...

[hushed steeple]

Oh pleese let the animated series shed some light on it (pun very much intended 🤣🤣)

Its 150min of content after all

[lyric imp]

I think the gray backgrounds like this are characteristic of pocket dimensions of sorts. Void of shattering is only one of them. Maybe the other seasons also have their respective voids where specific things are located

[hushed steeple]

Funny think about that

When the triles come out, I kinda assumed that they were metaphisicly located between the normal world and the void world

Like in you think of it as leyars of reality, you got the phisical plain, the void plain bellow it, and between there pocket dementions that float between them

This is very likely not the case, but curently there is 0 evidence against it😅

[real torrent]

Did Some story board sketches of Sky lore ✍️
Imagining the scenes of the battle from the Wasteland

[hushed steeple]

😍😍😍😍😍😍

[lusty merlin]

OUGH MAN THIS US BERY GOOD, have you posted this in fanart yet?

[rugged jackal]

Oh wow that’s a lot thank you!
I have some notes on this

1: On vault, I wanted to include the trials, the ancient memories, the void of shattering, the death room, possibly Orbit and whatever is beyond, and the upper floors of vault with “higher planes of existence beyond space and time” with vault being a mid-ish-level plane of existence, but since two people wanted to add that it was dreamlike I figure I should add it anyway
2: I didn’t add any performance controversy, only the dreams and remembrance ones. I’ll add performance’s second quest though
3: And I’ll be honest I have no idea what half the stuff is in the bottom two layers, I mostly just saw them talked about here once or twice and guessed what tier they’d be in, so tell me what you think should be shuffled around

[hushed steeple]

There is so much emotion and personality in these panals.
Your really good at this

Story wise, is this ment to be the last stand of waistland

[lyric imp]

Unless you want it to be mostly lore, you could add more things like tech, oobs, economy or niche mechanics

[real torrent]

Yes 🙌
I posted it 🏃‍♀️✨

[real torrent]

Maybe 🤔
But I believe there’s always light in dark maybe someone will save him?👀

[earnest briar]

I'm CRYING this is so good but so sad

[hushed steeple]

Ooooo, the plot thickens👀👀
Perhaps your planing on continuing this😁😏🤩?

[real torrent]

Yes 🏃‍♀️✨

[sharp lichen]

Oh my god this is interesting

Though I have no idea what it means, tbh

It could mean Assembly came much earlier in the timeline

Or maybe the background is in the past, while the actual spirits are in the present

[latent tendon]

Wait so passge stone is from the past as in like it's a memory or is it like actually 'rest until night'

[viral bay]

Omg that's an easter egg i haven't heard about! This also suggests that this kind of night flowers can grow in areas other than Starlight desert. This means plants in Sky have the capability to adapt and survive in darker areas, not just the Darkness plants (which needs a bit of pollution + lack of light).

[viral bay]

More like "rest until night to see the memories/secrets reveal themselves"

[latent tendon]

So canonically passage is set after isle of dawn desertification but before the eden shattering took place and 'paused' the time of day across all realms

[sharp lichen]

I think time passes in Isle, but it’s so distorted because it’s so far away from the Eden shattering

[latent tendon]

Isle doesn't have any meteorites right?

[viral bay]

Hmmm not necessarily. We don't know what the environment looked like during Passage (not talking abt the quest but the cutscenes after we approach the guide) since the cutscenes only show spirits. In the the animation trailer we can see the variations of altitudes stayed relatively the same as now, only instead of sand, there were grass with flowers.
In my interpretation the young ancestors were supposed to do the quests/passages during the night, cuz that's just the tradition, not time freezing or anything.
And so when us skykids "rest until night", we also waited for the night to fall to do the quests/passages w them

[sharp lichen]

I base my time-related theories on this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E_drZ7JjhYmbg5rmMHNXC0EAK3Zw0hnTVIfbu4TkcUA/edit

TLDR, basically the Eden Diamond is like a black hole and distorts time around it. The realms that are closest (Valley, Wasteland, etc.) are stuck in a permanent time of day, while the areas that are farther away from Eden, like the Prairie Peaks, experience a semi-normal day cycle. And at the very center of Eden, where time is distorted the most, Skykids can still move around normally, since they can essentially ignore the effects of time

Even shorter TLDR: the realm’s time is distorted because of Eden, but Skykids can ignore these time related effects

[tawdry yew]

Hi everyone. For a long time I tried to figure out the lore of the game on my own, but now I understand that there is too much information to handle... Can someone DM me everything known about the lore? about every location, about every creature, about the megabird and the prince? Please?

[native galleon]

Ok I’m trying to find a source on this and I’m losing my mind

Is the thing about the elders’ hairstyles being based on creatures confirmed, or is that just a common theory? Asking for reasons

[sharp lichen]

Not confirmed, but it’s absolutely there

[native galleon]

omg i have an old wip/fic concept about the passage and assembly kids meeting I didn’t know this but this makes me want to bring it back eventually

[sharp lichen]

Having everything is difficult, but this is there: https://docs.google.com/document/d/12XSkaMV_5UYG-an_Qo37ItyKP6GaqBBA6iRqBVE2qck/edit

[real torrent]

Thank u I need this!

[hushed steeple]

Not neceseraly
This isnt timetravel were expreriancing, but a memory from the past, ans all of those have ancesters in the same ghostly character model as spirits do
So this could very much be derect evidence that the passage of aligment quest shows events from the past before the great shatering, and specificly in the age where the assemby ancesters were alive

[hushed steeple]

Dont forget that isle of down is waaaaaay farther away then any other point in the world of sky (excluding home). So this coulld very much just be a matter of distance rather then any anything else

[hushed steeple]

good point

[native galleon]

Or it could mean Passage came later! It’s weird, because in the quest areas we see the Eden beam without even the castle or anything in it, which suggests it’s early. But then we also have like passage of reliance where we pick up things left by prospectors, implying the forest “gold rush” has happened, so maybe it’s not super early either? I don’t know, the timeline gets weird when spirits from different seasons are in the same place, so it’s hard to say for sure. Personally I would just kinda…take some liberties with the timeline when I want to make them interact. not ignore the timeline completely, just diverge from canon a bit to put them in the same timeframe

Like an AU where everything is the same except these two groups of people are both alive lol

but that’s in the context of making fanworks. what it means in canon…idk

[hushed steeple]

technically speaking we dont 100% know if the whole frozen time theory is really true in universe
The different times of day are one of the 3 fundamental principles on which the entire world of sky is based apon from a design point
(the other being the stages of human life and the stages of civilization)
Its a fearce debate in the community weather the fixed time of day for each realm is fully diegetic in universe or just part of the emotional storytelling of sky

(hate me all you want but Im mostly going with the later😅 )

AHH

SO MANY THEORIEEEEEE- explodes in skykid

[pastel brook]

Fineeee, gather around the bonfire, I'm going to play a lullaby for you!

[lyric imp]

Oh we absolutely do know times of day are about the message (source: 7 days of sky iirc), the question is whather singular time of day per realm is also canon

And honestly imo it's pretty obviously not. Like, why would it be canon if we see that there are other reasons for this feature

[lyric imp]

Wow, great observation. I'm not entirely sure, but i suspect both scouts and sassy teens lived at the end of timeline - after ancestor civilisation, or at least parts of it, fell into ruin. This must be the case because otherwise quest would have to take place in a different landscape than the one we get to play in. To my mind this is also the reason why there is random furniture around the forest. Scouts aren't really trying to make themselves a base for fun as much as they might be trying to create a semblence of community and civilisation in a ruined realm. Mask maker in turn may be trying to maintain an old tradition alive despite the entire kingdom being a bit dead

Not saying that all seasons are after the collapse, but that seasons usually take place in the area in its final form. This has to hold true as long as quests depend on the landscape in some signifficant ways. In case of assembly and passage it seems to be the end of timeline. For abyss, it has to be after reef facility was abandoned, but possibly long before the kingdom fell. Dreams, performace and rythm rake place in areas that have undergone no change since their best years, so they may take place during kingdom's prime. Sanctuary has ancestor-built devices, no darkstone tech, but pollution is present. Quests are not dependent on pollution, so timing based on landscape is undertain. It's similar for moments whose terrain remains basically untouched until now

[sharp lichen]

I’m not sure, because even in the very earliest parts of the Sky world (animation trailer and Aurora concert), the geographic structure of the realms is mostly the same, even if there are some different parts

[lyric imp]

Geography might be similar since it takes lots of time to change (albeit in aurora we see sea levels reaching valley) so i meant mostly buildings or other traces of civilisation

[hushed steeple]

Well....yes....that was exactly what I wrote before😅
The last part was wether its ONLY about the message, or if its also single time of day for each regiin in universe

[hushed steeple]

Not really😅

A continent is just a gigantic island
Go streigh in any direction and you reach the sea/ocean🤣

If you leave the kingdom of Valley( not the region) and go in a direction that doesnt lead to another region, then you must logicly pass wild lands that lead to the costline
No rising sea levels necesery

The only queation is if that shoreline is west from the citadel and bordering the ocean, or south from the second race and bordering the sea🤔🤔

[lyric imp]

In aurora warrior we see the characteristic rock formations that we encounter when flying from forest to valley. The places where social space and its path to ice rink would be are flooded

This would either point to lower water levels, or valley being physically higher than it used to be

[hushed steeple]

I think you are quite mistaken on this😅

They are the same shape as the the enterence of valley, but that in itself means nothing
We see in our would how curtain geologic features can strethch and be incountered for hudreds of miles, even when broken up by other features

And thats not taking into acount the posibility of reusing assets😂
Its a comman practice in gameing and we see TGS do it often

[hushed steeple]

If the region where the mantas pass was the same region that we pass from forest to valley, then the rest of the world after it would not be 100% different. Even a great world changing cataclism wont be able to turn the mountains upside down🤣

As for the social space being flooded, keep in mind that the evelation that social space is higher then the bigger part of Valley as a whole, not to mention above most of the landmass of the sky world

That means isle, dailight,forest,waistland,most of voult.......all under water😅

And yes, changing tectonics is a thing, and one could say the great desaster maby changed the landscape of sky

But...no...that is deffinetly not the case

Its is absolutly inposible for any event to compleatly reshape the landscape of an entire continent without basicly destroying everything that the ancesters had built

[hushed steeple]

Oops, sorry If I sounded too mean with that
I got a bit caried away😅 😅

[rapid latch]

Akari is a scout

[silver nacelle]

I feel like as someone said before it feels like the isle is very isolated , unlike other places who had signs of civilization, this place just felt abandoned and left behind , there are no houses , almost as if the place was submerged by sand , but in the aurora concert , if you remember , we saw a point where the isle was full of life , grass , and flowers , but people were on boats leaving , but why ? Was there something happening , like the sand submerging the whole place , that’s why they left ? If we look at the temple also , it feels very empty , almost like it was left for years untouched , unlike some other temples who look more or less better , the isle’s temple felt ruined and empty , and I wonder , if we go the opposite of the direction we are supposed to go at the beginning of the game ( I know there is wind blocking us but what if we could ? ) would we go to a different place and would there be different issues ? Also what do these temples mean , some we never seen before or my memory is just horrible , but are these temples of some elders who used to also live on the world , but disappeared mysteriously ? And in one of the pictures , we see the ancestors/spirits holding something while on the boat , almost looks like light or a star…..

[runic apex]

Random note for you... the geology in my irl area has indeed been tilted sideways.
We also have growing mountains.

While it is unlikely so much structure could survive such upheavals in the real world... it is acceptable to think there might be some possibility of tech or magic that was used in the sky ancient times to assist in the preservation.

However.... I do think the higher sea levels and/or a different coastline are more likely.

Ps... please don't ping me about this, everyone...
I generally avoid this chat for my own creative reasons.

[rapid latch]

That’s why isle sucks
It’s so empty and boring

[silver nacelle]

Lol good point

[silver nacelle]

Idk why but for me it’s kind of nice that it’s so alone , peace XD

[hushed steeple]

Yes, but there's a difference between an area being turned sideways and compleatly changing on a continental level

IRL in a period of just a few million years the world had compleatly changed
between transforming ecosystems,sea levels,river paterns, forest transforming into deserts,atmosphere content...
But major mountain ranges and the general shape of the world has not gone through any crazy changes in that time, even with continental drift.

On that note ,scientists had been able to indentify the leftover of major mountain ranges that had formed 500+ years ago and are split between 3 different continents😅

Such things are on a whole other level compared to the most other things in the world and dont just turn on there head so easaly

My main point was that there is no reason why that one spot the mantas passed HAS to be the exact same spot we pass through on our way to Valley, and not just anothor location
Especially since from the archetecture, geography and elevation there's way to much evidence against it😅

Besides, haveing it that the areas we directly interact with in the game are all there is in this world, just makes the world so much smaller and less interesting😅

[native galleon]

Yeah i think it makes sense for the realms to be much bigger than the limits of the game!! I like how the concert shows that, at least with Valley

Also, I had some thoughts on this a little while ago, because of course i did: #lore-discussion-spoilers message

It’s a few messages but this is where it starts

I didn’t pinpoint exactly where it is on the map because like others have said, I don’t think it is anywhere on the map. this is just observations

I also think Valley used to have more water, the frozen lakes and the blue light in the wild indicate that. Also the fact that there’s a patch of grass in the village theater and a lake where you can fish under the ice. It seems like it was always very cold, but it got even colder…why that is is anyone’s guess

I love speculating about valley askdhdkdh like. What are your secrets

[hoary ingot]

I’m late, but I think this is incredibly interesting! It reminds me of the Nightbird Whisperer from the current season. It seems that a lot of spirits had a great admiration for nature, and could have possibly opposed the use of dark stone/diamonds.

[hoary ingot]

Could it be that Sky had undergone some form of climate change after the Eden Eruption? Isle used to be lush with green and is now just a barren desert. Golden used to be a sandy, almost beachy-area, but is now a literal wasteland. I think it wouldn’t be far-fetched if Valley managed to grow colder. But it would make sense for it to be that way regardless, given how elevated they are in the mountains.

[native galleon]

possibly! i think the eden explosion changed a lot, so much we don’t even know the full extent of it. also maybe the greenhouse effect in wasteland kinda trapped the heat in so it couldn’t reach anymore

We know from the two embers trailer and the concert that wasteland used to have clearer skies, I imagine that cloud/wind barrier between them would also affect Valley even if it’s more subtle

||well well well, if it isn’t the consequences of your own actions||

[hoary ingot]

i agree! i think wasteland had so much pollution and toxic waste that it turned the atmosphere permanently green. we see that there was some kind of crop growth there as well.

i also have a theory that wasteland could’ve been the place where valley sent all their toxic chemicals to, which would explain its current state.

[native galleon]

oh boy do i have some theories for you then

it’s a bit more complicated than that but yeah, I think it’s more like their industry was supplying most of the other realms, and valley was a big consumer

[hoary ingot]

i would love to hear them if you have time!

[cyan maple]

Just an observation I had (Idk if it’s been discussed before):
The first ruined temple in wasteland looks like Forest Elder’s temple, but completely destroyed. They both have the large gold ceiling thing and the same elder platforms. Maybe they were stationed in wasteland before moving to forest when the war started? It would kinda explain why they wear the diamond headpiece, which matches all the diamond patterns around wasteland (on pillars, walls, etc.)

[native galleon]

How does every conversation I touch end up here
Ok so basically I think Valley and Wasteland used to be very close in many ways, possibly even united. They would have both been heavily dependent on darkstone technology, with Valley relying on it to uphold their realm, and pre-Wasteland being the major industrial center. Wasteland would also be supplying the other realms, but I think these two would be particularly close for this reason as well as some other hcs I have

Fast forward a while, the industry in GW starts to come with some negative side effects, like dark plants, polluted water, and illness. Then eventually corrupted creatures. Big ones. They raise concerns with the other realms, but they don’t listen, and the demand to keep that industry going pushes them to the limit. A rebellion breaks out, starting with workers who are exposed to the dangerous conditions, and they push for the factories and even the entire industry to be shut down. This isn’t good for those who depend on darkstone (which i use here as an umbrella term for the whole industry, both the power diamonds themselves and the light energy that powers it). So Valley in particular, the realm that uses it for transport and to make entire sections of their cities float in the air, isn’t happy. Never mind all the excess consumption there, where it’s used for recreational equipment, instruments, and often just to make things that look cool. So it’s a struggle between two realms with diametrically opposed needs, but there’s also an element of class struggle.

At some point takes a side, standing with their people and the rebellion to save their realm, and things reach a boiling point. Rebellions would give way to civil war, and with an Elder and presumably a lot of the military on their side, the pro-darkstone side also feels the need to take a stand to defend the status quo. Valley gets involved, the war escalates further, and nobody wins

[cyan maple]

WAIT, that would imply wasteland used to have two temples separated by a graveyard and a battlefield, so wasteland could’ve potentially been TWO separate realms! Or at least one realm with two coexisting Elders. Maybe Forest and Waste had some beef in the past which caused a war in that realm, but ultimately made Forest lose and move elsewhere/somewhere more peaceful after their temple was destroyed. WHICH caused the other elder to essentially destroy their own realm with pollution/“progressiveness” (oily water, darkness, industrial structures and pipes in the background of waste, etc.) Sky is essentially a reflection of life according to that one poster board in ||the office||, so wasteland being a single place with two sides divided by struggle is not out of the question (I might just be too deep into it though).

[native galleon]

I say nobody wins because neither side gets what they want: Wasteland still ends up, well, a wasteland, the darkness spreads everywhere and destroys their realm, Valley can’t even continue using Wasteland’s industry to supply themselves, which would have been the goal in the first place, so the Valley elder/s resort to placing a wind barrier that cuts it off entirely. And of course a lot of people die. I know other people have similar theories where the details are slightly different, but the overall progression of events is the same (I’ll find them and link them if i can) but this is how I see it.

[hushed steeple]

The first ruined waistland temple and the final forest temple are boath crystal production factorys

Forest seams to have only one (Im asuming there were earlyer prototype versions), while Waisltand likely had many of that calibar

Its hard do say where the final version of the design was developed (though likely it was forest), but as the main industrial center of the late darkstone era, more ended up being build in Waistland useing that desing

[native galleon]

of course my theories are building upon others, like this one: #lore-discussion-spoilers message

#lore-discussion-spoilers message another one

Oh and of course i gotta post this (my edit)

I am in Spain without the P about this topic

[hushed steeple]

Not really
Temple is a broad term with many functuion, while the "main temple" is one per realm.
Each realm has a different main temple which has a differebt function

The forest temple eventually become a cryatal factory, among other thing, while the factory's in waistland are many and purely functional

And yes, despite only going through one, it is inplied that there were more of them in the background

[native galleon]

I do think it’s interesting that the Broken Temple area is called that. Not because it’s a factory, because we know temples can also be factories if the elders are so inclined. But given that the actual temple is elsewhere, it makes me wonder what that broken temple is for. At first I thought it might be just the old Wasteland temple, and they built a new one later on, but I also wonder if maybe…it was a different kind of temple, one at the intersection of two realms intertwined…

not that there’s much conclusive evidence either way in canon, I just think it would be neat

I came up with this idea as a weird plot thing in something I’m writing and now I’m like. Wait actually what if tho

oh sorry thats what I meant to respond to!!

[hushed steeple]

Np☺️

Also, lets not forget abyss, who is also crystal factory, but next gen

[native galleon]

And if that collaboration between the realms is based on darkstone, it would make even more sense that it’s a factory. just a thought Hehe

thank you im so glad to hear that!!

[hushed steeple]

Its a preaty good thought☺️
There is also one more thing to consider.
Valley borders on two realms that are industrial centers ( forest and waistland) , which would go a long way to explain why the economy and culture of vally is bassed on art, sport,music, performance, entertainmant and tourism

It did not need to export light or cryatals becouse between boath realms it has most of its production and light needs, and insted it focused entirely on said art,sport,music.... which it offers to its neighbors in return

[native galleon]

yeah but when things start to get bad, that doesn’t seem like a fair tradeoff…

[hushed steeple]

True, but thats a "when thing go bad" problem😅
They probably never expected things could go so bad so fast

[native galleon]

excerpt from the project™️ because all this talk about my hyperfixation is making me feel like being bold hehe

[hushed steeple]

This is really good.
So masterfully writen

Is it ok if you elaborate more on this, like who is who ( region) in this description

[viral bay]

Before, Golden wasteland used to be named Shores of Manna

Can someone explain to me what does manna mean?

[native galleon]

yeah this is pov!! it alternates between both

When I said i have other hcs about this i wasn’t kidding

[native galleon]

Manna is like a gift from heaven i think??

[hushed steeple]

Boath?

[native galleon]

the other perspective being valley yes

[native galleon]

meant to reply again

[native galleon]

anyway, yeah, I like the old name because it’s ironic given the state it’s in now. “Golden Wasteland” has the same effect imo. Makes you wonder what was so great there once.

[hoary ingot]

Golden Wasteland probably got its name from the golden sands that used to be there. If we watch the Two Embers trailer, that’s the most golden sand we’ve ever seen in Sky. Most sands from the other beach-like realms are a dim or grayish.

This is random, and this may be common knowledge, but I think the Seasons are moving in a manner that unfolds the timeline of Sky. We’re finally at the era where dark-stone technology is on a rise with the camera, and diamonds are being discovered in large quantities in Prairie. I theorize that the Jolly Geologist shared their findings with the others, or possibly the Prairie Elder, who the alerted the Forest Elder. Then, we see the industrial boom as the kingdom begins harvesting these diamonds.

I think the Season after next is going to go into the nitty gritty, if you will, especially since the project will officially be released by that year.

[sharp lichen]

That would be a very strange theory indeed. We have 18 seasons now, and some previous seasons have very advanced technology

(Earliest) Prophecy, Sanctuary, Moments, Gratitude, Belonging, Rhythm, TLP, Lightseekers, Moments, Remembrance, Enchantment, Assembly, Dreams, Flight, Shattering, Performance, Abyss (Latest)

That’s what I think

[hushed steeple]

I dont really think thats the case😅

Weve had many season in the past that heavely featured darkstone technology
Especially abyss, which featured tech, construction and crystal production even more advanced then what we see in waistland

[hushed steeple]

I would say Abyss and then shetering when it comes to the last🤔
I need to remind myself what each season featured to say anything about the rest

[sharp lichen]

Maybe, but it depends when the flooding happened

[hushed steeple]

Good point, though its probably still later then the rest of the seasons given its advancemant

There propably will be seasons that show periods after abyss, but I think shatering has to be end game

[hoary ingot]

You all are right! I didn’t take all seasons into consideration. My apologies for that lol. Maybe it’s unfolding in a way that shows how dark stone affected each realm or certain groups of people.

[hushed steeple]

Thats ok
Your great for being resonable with this😁

One patern that is deffinetly true is that ( after performance and excluding world seasons like shater,aurora...) all seasons show new area in differen region, and one once all the regions are covered does the cycle start again

Everyone knew that dailight would be next since it was the only one left from the second cycle

After aviary a third cycle will probably start, and its anybodya guesa which one will be first

[hoary ingot]

Yes! That is what’s particularly interesting about the crystals. I think the Ancestors probably realized that the crystals/diamonds/dark stones only worked when a species of light creature is near it. This would explain why mantas, butterflies, and other light creatures were needed to harvest the dark stone. It’s incredibly sad, but at the same time bittersweet, because all the theories are finally coming together!

[hoary ingot]

I never even noticed that pattern. I don’t think the cycle will restart again, at least till after the upcoming season.

[hushed steeple]

Like I said, after aviary😅

[hoary ingot]

My apologies! I didn’t see the edited section until after I replied. 😊

[hushed steeple]

No, its my bad😅
I forgot to write it before I posted the first time😅

[hoary ingot]

Haha, no worries! I understand :))

[latent tendon]

Project Aviary is a season?

I mean it's posted on the official channel sooo

After like 3-4 years we're finally getting old sky aviary

[hoary ingot]

This makes me wish I had joined Sky when it first came out. Looking back, the old beta version seems closer to what the devs intended imo

[latent tendon]

The beta versions look like they have better graphics too

[sharp lichen]

It depends

Some original things (like shards) weren’t added until later because of tech limitations

There are also parts that I think fit better now, like Eden being red instead of cool mint blue and Isle being completely different

Also the old UI was very, very different than now

[latent tendon]

Yall have not played before the graphics got changed?

[sharp lichen]

TGC has said that everytime Sky comes on a new console, they do a graphics and performance update

Also, mobile devices in 2018/2019 are very different from the phones/consoles/PCs now

I think the graphic style is something much more noticeably different in the early version of Sky

[hushed steeple]

Looks like a flame war might be starting up
Im just gonna go now and come back later😂😂😂
Bye

[latent tendon]

Hmm yea ure right
I played during 2020 and I remember the graphics being much a choppier than they are r now

[sharp lichen]

I remember the grass got updated a few months back

[reef fulcrum]

Meanwhile... On my phone

Y'all get graphics updates?

[full ridge]

Quick question: the storm you guys talk about so much also refers to the huge spiral cloud that covers Eden or it's just the old name of the ​​Eden ?

I'm asking because I've been analyzing Eden for a while looking for small details involving worldbuilding and map layout

[hushed steeple]

Great observation
Here is the thing
-That thing you see right there is a huge mountain, the tallest end biggest mountain (single mountain and not mountain range like in Valley) on the planet
-The top region of that mountain (like maby last 1/4, dont quoat me on it😅 ) is Edan
-Near the peak you got the edan diamond that is the sorce of the shater events, the plague of darkness, and the unending storm that also creates that cloud cover around the mountain, and by extention the constant cloud cover above Waistland
-This storm obviacely groes weeker as you move away from the diamond,
-starting with the end of edan thats just death 24/7, getting slighly weeker as you go back
-then you got most of edan that has winds so powerfull its inposible to fly without being knocked back, with pereodic geils that carry debris
-beyond the start of edan the storm still rages down the mountain, spreading the cloud cover, but getting weeker
-We dont experiance winds in waistland ( though it still exists in the clouds), but you got the thick cloud cover that blenkets the entire region in darkness
-The spread of the storm might go even further then it does, if it wasnt for the massive central mountain range of Valley, creating a natural barrior to the storm and the expantion of krill beyond Waistland
-On the other side of the continent you got Starlight valley, where theres no barier to really stop the storm, and instead it just gradually looses steam over the long distance

hope this helps😊

[hushed steeple]

Thank you so much 😍😍😍😍

[lost zephyr]

That’s a great explanation/idea! Your point about starlight desert I hadn’t thought of.

Meanwhile, regarding Two Embers (I guess this is sort of lore related?), do you guys think TGC will make a season after it considering how big of a thing it is? Like the AURORA season being for the concert/partnership.

[pastel brook]

look at it go, look at me dance over the Sky like a krill

[hushed steeple]

I asume so
I wrote a season idea about it a while ago (its lost in backlog now😅 )

I think it would make sence for the season after ( or dureing, depening on the release scedual) the animated series to conects somehow with what we see in the animation, or reveal more explecitly the history of sky
After all, we the audiance get the history of sky explained to us. It would make sence that our avatars also get to learn some of that in universe

Speaking of the animation, there is this part about its release that Im not shure if everyone sow

It seams that will be getting the pilot for the series around March (give or take a month😅 )

Also, it seams that what we sow was only the teaser
Admitingly the wording on this is kinda vegue, but its possible that we will be getting the official (longer) trailer in november around the time the PC version comes out, so be prepeared for that

[hushed steeple]

you know what, here is all the sky animation parts of that entire interview combined together, just in case anybody missed it

does anybody know how to pin this, since I dont😅

[native galleon]

only admins and mods (?) can pin things

[hushed steeple]

Oh, that makes sence☺️
Then get on it guys 🤣

[lavish wind]

man, i wish sassy drifter would come back soon. i know they jus came back in december of 2022 but i didn't have an account yet at that time.

i wonder of that mask they don has any lore significance... season of gratitude, i think they came from?

[native galleon]

Sassy has been the first TS of any new platform launch so maybe they will be

[cobalt palm]

Does anyone have a doc of all murals ingame? I'm sure there used to be a crowsfoot style symbol on forest temple, but is now a diamond, though it may have been oob
(feel free to ping)

[hushed steeple]

I think I have all the murals photographed
Thats not a bad idea now that you mention it
Might take some time to put it all together though🤔
Dont have anything on the crown though

[cobalt palm]

I generally do it with Google docs insert image

[timber crown]

I probably sound stupid but is there a reason the assembly masks are gold and black versions of those blue and white ones like crab call that I don't know the season.

[cobalt palm]

Lightseekers, and yes, apparently there's a relationship between them, though we don't really know more, maybe they were lightseekers in training

[timber crown]

Oh, cool

[cobalt palm]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[hushed steeple]

They are
Thanks for the lore tip, I compleatly miaased that somehow

[hushed steeple]

I will deffinetly do that tomorrow when I can get to my computer.
Cant do it now on my phone😅

[cobalt palm]

I found one of them from my old list

But I'm sure this symbol was in a bunch of other places I can no longer find

[sharp lichen]

It’s in the Sky wiki

[cobalt palm]

Why wasn't that my first thought?

Found it thank you!

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/sky-children-of-the-light/images/1/1f/Mural-forest-temple-inside-02.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20220516001301

Seems this mural has been replaced with a diamond

Also RIP manta mural, there is only diamond now
😭

[south depot]

i’m wondering— did the release of the map shrine and locations of everything reveal any new lore to you guys?

[sharp lichen]

Not much, besides that Sky’s geography is weird

[native galleon]

Isn’t that how it always goes 😔

[cobalt palm]

Sky's realms are pizza shaped, and there may be pineapple on it

[south depot]

Tbh I realized that my theory of why each realm has different amounts of corruption/darkness. Like I thought they were all organized like how the portals are and that’s why wasteland has the most. But no, wasteland is just as far away as forest, and it’s actually valley that’s the closest outdoor realm to Eden

[fast jasper]

maybe the amount of pollution the spirits caused has a correlation

[hoary ingot]

Guys, who’s buried here? Could it be warriors or celebrities?

[south depot]

Lore chat— make up a really elaborate lore reasoning for a basic game function.
Ex. Why we learn expressions, why we can adjust brightness, why sky kids are Grey until we light them, where the inbox messages are from, why we collect cosmetics, etc

I think this will be a fun game for u guys lol

[sharp lichen]

Adjusting brightness is easy- Skykids can control all light, including how they see the world

[lavish wind]

personally, for a lore-reason, the reason why unknown skykids appear as blackened shadows is because I feel like skykids communicate primarily through light (and hjonks). it's kinda like an animal recognizin another or getting to know them by scent, jus, with skykids it's flame sharin.

[sharp lichen]

that could also be why Sky is played in third person- you can see light from all sides, including from behind

[reef fulcrum]

Learning expressions are for two reasons. The first, I've touched on a little bit recently; about familiarity and the fact that their motivations are our motivations. They want to collect the expressions because it makes them feel good, even if, from their perspective, they can't understand why. That their soul is literally just a transcended human soul processing it's emotions into their world through their existence, or

The second reason is more spiritual. That each expression is a tribute to the Spirit who teaches it. That our using them to express our emotions carries the emotions of the Ancestors. They are honored to be remembered in this way, and their individuality is essentially immortalized as it becomes a part of our sincere and personal lives.

The reasons for cosmetics are basically the same, I'm thinking... But the actual mechanisms by which we choose and transform our appearance is another thing by itself.

Going back to expressions for one last brief moment; I sortof headcanon that it is absolutely impossible to lie to a Sky Child. Their understanding and manipulation of Body Language is so impeccably perfect, that they will absolutely always recognize your true intentions. The most convincing sly smile on the trickiest fox of a conman would not suffice to convince Skyds to believe a lie.

[mental snow]

Maybe the black is the body and the light is the soul, my best guess

Wait I’m dumb I thought you were talking about eden, my bad. I don’t know why they show up like that. Maybe soul sharing?

[hushed steeple]

Kinda
We did have a discusion about this a loooong time ago
-About these being the graves/shrines to the greatest athleats/performers in valley history, and how they were covered in gold originaly and it come off over the centuries

Also, dont know how many noticed, but there are shines just like these in the temples thaf start the races

In universe there are probably more of these that we dont see

[viral bay]

It's like a hall of fame ^^!

[hushed steeple]

Precisely☺️
Admit it, valley people would totally do that given there culture😂

[hushed steeple]

Well, no, thats not the case😅
Waistland is cannonicly still relatively speaking the closest to edan (especially the main temple)

The "region" of waistland makes up most of the area surounding edan, while the "kingdom" of waistland has its center more on the east side toward the ocean.
We can see that the region continues into the west, and also to the east with small ialands, but we dont go to those places

[hushed steeple]

The region of valley is a massive mountain range that cuts through the continent.
Our avarage path through the realm for us goes south west to north east .
This is directly proven in the game given our relative position to edan

Also keep into acount that the huge huge mountains are a natural barier that stops the coruption of waistland and the storm formed by edan to enter valley
While by air distance some parts of valley are closer then eden then some parts of waistland, geography makes that point null and void

[low grove]

(I don't know if someone has mentioned this btw) I might just be saying random things, but is it possible to purify the corrupted water and land? Don't they do that in the season of enchantment? For the second quest we're asked to find the blue light, and the alchemist guy uses it to purify the water around the guide. In the 4th quest we're asked to get the green light and the farmer uses it to grow grass and flowers from the sand. We are also able to clear pollution as we can light those little fungus things for light, but only to a certain extent as we aren't able to clear the polluted water. So it seems that light clears pollution, but only practiced people like the alchemist can do it, right? Polluted objects are corrupted light (I think) because when we burn the fungus things they give light and when we step in polluted water is absorbs light.

[hushed steeple]

I think the issue is more a matter of quantity.
There's just way too much polution, way to much lost light corupted into darkness to really purrify the waters of waistland within our lifetime
And that's not even going into the dark clouds created by the storm in edan. They are not helping the matter😅

The arc was much further away and way less corupted in comparison, and even that required basicly devine intervention from the spirits
A single small pool is not the same as a whole lake destroyed earth

[hushed steeple]

On some level, we are healing the world of sky a tiny tiny bit every day. Burning the dark plants releases the light that was traped from the enviroman or traped within the poluted earth, and putting it back into circulation.

This is of course a very slow process, and it will be a long time (as in after the age when the gameplay of sky takes place) that the resoults of our labors become visible

[languid island]

Anyone has lore regarding event currency? They all, when in inventory, look the same as candles, except that hole carved in top and bottom parts.

[hushed steeple]

I think these are more gameplay then lore related. I dont think that stuff should be take TOO literally
If we were to make a stretch and try to make resonable lore out of it...........theeen...🤔.....

Ok, sky kids and ancestrs have the ability to condence and store the exess light energy within themselfs in the form of candles. We are shown that when we hold a candle that we've created that the light spot on our chest goes out.
In universe this probably isnt instantaneous but takes a while to make a candle, but it might be possible that this os how they could naturally store light energy outside there body, and use it for economic and other activeties

Now, event curency is a bit tricky, but perhaps the light energy we get has a different....configuration, that doesnt mix with our normal light, and forms into event curency when that light is processed........

Or there could just be no lore and thats just game mechanics😅😅😅

[low grove]

It's like trading right? Seasonal spirits come from undiscovered realms so they trade their clothing i guess? for currencies from where they came from. And event currency is like tickets which is still trading. Idk im just making stuff up lmaooo

[languid island]

I like to think these tickets as candles but with heart thread carved out

[low grove]

aaah i see, like how when we burn it a bit it grows back

[hushed steeple]

of course
Logicly it probably grows back full after a day or more (depending on how much they got to feed on)
Like I said before, dark plants likely get there light from 2 sorces
1 from the ambiant light energy in the area, or even traped light creatures like we see in forest
2 The light energy that is traped inside the earth, leftovers from the light that was lost dureing the great disaster that ended the old world
While Im not 100% convinced that the gameplay loop of refreshing candles are real in universe, I do belive that the loop of burning dark plants is very much cannon, as we are takeing care of the world and preventing darkkness from gaining more dominence while we very slowly deminish it

[white depot]

speaking of dark plants,, why do we collect light after we burn them? it makes sense why candles give light, because they're candles,, but why does a dark plant give light? do we free the plant of darkness and it turns to light in exchange for cleansing it? it never really made sense to me why something dark gives light after being burnt
e: could dark plants just be corrupted light plants? we never really see any other plants in the realms aside from the huge trees in forest and the little flowers in the grass and the bigger flowers in tlp area

[hushed steeple]

Here is the deal
Dark plants arent plants corupted by darkness, they ARE darkness
There kinda like a parasite. Feading off light and growing larger as it does just like a plant. No mater how much they end up eating, its never trully satesfied and only desires more as it grows
Though paradoxicle, dark creatrures all have light in them. They however hold it prisoner, and locked away from the cycle of light.
Mind you, light is only off use to them when its devoured. Intence light is however harmfull to them, which is why they dont grow much in direct sunlight and die when you atack it with pure light.

[white depot]

ohhh thats smart! thanks!

[hushed steeple]

Also, inportant observation
All the places where you see dark trees are places where you got a lot of trapped wight within the earth
-In forest the first dark bush (although a smaller one) is located in an area where there was a mine collaps and many ancesters died. There light would have been lost in the earth, and the plant grows large from slowly feading off it
-The much bigger dark bush you see in the forst temple that was also a factory for dark crystals. As light is spent in the creation of each crystal, its safe to say there's a lot that ended up getting corupted when the factory got wrecked and its now dark plant furtalized
-Sanctuary seams to have a lot of corupted light that got accidentaly caried to it by murchents during a shipwreck and then got buried deep to prevent it spreading. You got the gaiser that shoots out darkness balls in intervals, and of course, a huge dark bush in the cave

• And then you got waitland that had dark water, dark plants and dark bushes all over the place. With the whole place being dead as a corps, its safe to say the energy and lifeforce of an entire country, along with the lifeforce of almost all the giant sky creatures of a single generation are now furtalizer for darkness😂

[upper mortar]

Unpopular theory incoming:
Characters such as Aurora and Little Prince are not part of Sky's lore, instead, their story happened in the present era of Sky, not in the past.

Little Prince was just a child travelling from planet to planet and stumbled upon our world and befriended the Sky kids in it, those Sky kids are Us, the players. And then Eden happened and Little Prince learned what it means to be reborn and left our world with this piece of experience and memories of friendship as a souvenir from our world.

Aurora however, is nothing like Little Prince. She is neither a person nor a living being, but a voice that's been guiding Sky kids since they were moths (She's the voice that's calling to us back in Isle of Dawn. Her voice is the loudest in the Orbit because she was guiding us to that place)

All light creatures are naturally attracted to music, and since Sky Kids count as a Light creature, Aurora utilized her voice to it's full potential, called every single Sky Kids across the realms and gathered them in one place to take them on a Musical Voyage.

She tells us the story of "The Light" and sung on it's behalf so we can understand it's predicament.

||Aurora is not "The Light", she's more like a messenger of some sort||

[upper mortar]

The lyrics of Exhale Inhale would make much more sense if you took the last bit of this theory into consideration.

"I was a moving thing before I was a human being"

• It implies that the Light was once a spark before it started to develop empathy

"Take from my world no more"

• The Light is begging the Ancestors to stop taking more than what they were given.

[hushed steeple]

Honestly, I dont think this was all that contraversial (well some people will but thats another subject😅 )

I think it was preaty obviace from the start that the little prince and aurora ARE in the present
Although I think you might be confusing lore with history. The Little prince does come from outside our planet, but he is still part of the sky universe. same for aurora

[cold sparrow]

worth noting is that those songs weren't written for Sky
they were written and sung before, and picked by Aurora
any relevance to Sky is by chance, rather than by design
of course Aurora and the team picked songs that fit the game, but no line should be taken as true lore
e.g. the lyrics of The Seed does not mean that the kingdom actually used any sort of money
they might have! but the song itself is not proof

that said, I associate "I was a moving thing before I was a human being" more with the light raining down into the kingdom and becoming the creatures of light and the ancestors and everything

[upper mortar]

True true! But the team may have changed the story in order to fit the song better. It could be by chance too but the relevance of the song with the lore is still cool.

And yes i am aware that these songs weren't written for Sky

But that said tho, Aurora is definitely not the Light itself. She's just an otherworldly character like Little Prince and they both played a part in every Sky Kids life in modern era

Although i think Aurora did more than Little Prince because she was the one who introduced the Concert Tech to the game (more than 8 players in one server) and gathered most skids in one place

[cold sparrow]

in the context of Sky, for me, the line reads more like
"I (the light) existed before I took the form of you (ancestors)"
expecially with the follow up lines "I was the ice before it melts, I was the tree before it fell"
very much "I am everywhere and everything, so please don't destroy it"

[upper mortar]

For me it was
"I would rather see this world through the eyes of a child"

• The Light wanted to live this world as one of the Ancestors so she imparted her light to their children and gave them the gift of flight to free them from the burdens of being grounded

[sharp lichen]

The present era of Sky has just as much lore as the past.

[viral bay]

I interpreted the whole Aurora season as the story of Sky, witnessed by the Megabird itself. Aurora is just a storyteller sent by the Megabird.

Imagine how painful it was seeing ancestors who once connected so much with you and your children (light creatures) only to become distant over time and hunting the children for their selfish reasons. They were literally hurting the Megabird.

So after they caused their own destruction (war in battlefield), Through the eyes of a Child is almost like the megabird flying through the scene, witnessing so many families broken and soldiers in agony, it itself is in so much pain too, after seeing so much suffering.

"I would rather see this world through the eyes of a child" That's us. We are sent by them to heal the broken world and to bring back all the lost light to the Megabird.

[hoary ingot]

I think performers and athletes like the ones from Aurora could be buried there.

[hushed steeple]

This theory is absolutly amaging🤩
I always belived that aurora in universe was some kind of transendent being that had a deep conection to "The Light"
But I kinda assumed that she started out as a mortal that trancented into what she is.

Having it be from the other side, a aspect of "The light" that had taken form on eath actually makes a lot more sence given what we see

[hoary ingot]

I interpret Aurora as a Minister of Music. The history of Sky is archived in her voice, and we experience this during the seasonal quests. The spirits’ memories can only be relived through her voice, and inside that sphere is a guiding light.

As many others have pointed out, she is the Voice that guides us from the very beginning, and the last we hear in the end. I believe her to be a physical embodiment of Megabird, who has a deep connection to all species of light creatures. She has the ability to connect us (physically), alter our physical reality, and transform us into different creatures. Even in the seasonal image, we see her connected to the spirits’ essence.

(Continued 😅) I think each of these four spirit’s represent a part of her/their/its essence. Humility, tenacity, hope, and love.

[native galleon]

this is my favorite take on aurora's presence in the game, thank you for this

[hushed steeple]

Well, not neceserally THE phisical embodiment, as much as an aspect or manifestation of the greater whole of "The Light"
Otherwise, yes totally agree

[native galleon]

I've always pictured her as like a voice calling me into the world (in-universe explanation for 'i just like her music and joined because of her' LMAO)

Literally from the first moment in isle i was like, that's her isn't it? yeah this is exactly the kind of game she would collab with

[hoary ingot]

Absolutely! I think we see MB solely in relation to the world of Sky, when in-universe, they are.. well.. the embodiment of the entire universe. ||In Orbit, we see various planets, but Sky hasn’t one. We can only enter the world of Sky through that light (MB), so could it be that Sky is like some sort of transcendental afterlife where human/otherworldly souls go to reincarnate? I could be taking this way too far. Sorry if I am 😭||

[hoary ingot]

I never realized this until when the season began. I always loved the, what I call, Isle Lullaby. Sky is how I became a fan of hers. She seems to me singing in another language, and it makes me wonder if that language is real. Aurora is known to have her own language too, lmao.

[somber moss]

Trying to think of some hcs here but idek
Do yall consider the seasonal spirits as frozen memory fragments (like winged light)? Because when thinking about spirits that are shown to be younger like from passage it’d be sad if all of them got caught in the eden explosion

[hushed steeple]

Weeellll......
That WAS the premiss of the game in a very very early veraion of the story, but it got changed early on😅

[hoary ingot]

Ah, I see. My apologies

[native galleon]

i've heard that it's not a specific language with a literal translation, but that sometimes she just kinda sings sounds based on whatever she's feeling and not in words

[hushed steeple]

I kinda asuemed that was the case too
The normal spirits are 100% that
Seasonal spirits seam to have more of a presence, like a fragmat of the past thats taken new (very temorary) life in the present

[somber moss]

I was wondering about this because the base game spirits all gather at graves, were those built beforehand or did they all pass before the eden eruption

[hoary ingot]

Well, as always I could be wrong, so please take this with a grain of salt 😂. In most cases, spirits are exactly as they were before the passing.

[native galleon]

The amount of child spirits in recent seasons is quite sad, tbh

[somber moss]

FRR especially pleading child 😭 makes me sad to think about

[hushed steeple]

I kinda asume it was before, but its hard to say😅
Maby haveing a grave with all the rites allowed them to return as spirits

[sharp lichen]

I consider them mostly similar to regular spirits, in terms of how they died

[hoary ingot]

I don’t think the events of Eden immediately killed off all Ancestors. There were some survivors, as we see in Refuge. Some Ancestors could’ve died as a result of environmental aspects caused by the civil conflicts at the time (dark water illness, darkness infection, earthquake related cave-ins, etc). I think the explosion was the final end-all-be-all that sealed the fate for everyone.

[sharp lichen]

Child death-

Child death, but spirit-

[native galleon]

It's sad either way, just noticing that there have been a lot lately. Pleading Child, all four Passage spirits, and even Moments has one

And I know there were some before as well, but it's just been on my mind with it seeming to be almost a pattern

It's made me think a lot about skykids interacting with these spirits who look and act like them, playing together and making friends, but then also having the realization of why they're like that in the first place and i-

this also applies to the current sunlight event with assembly aughhh

[somber moss]

We see shards turning skies red/pink/purple as well before they come down from the sky so imagine how terrifying it must of been when eden exploded
Or worse- did it happen so suddenly that nobody had any idea beforehand and the survivors of the previous environment disasters just died while enjoying their day 😭

Tbh I doubt it but if the 2nd case is a possibility then dang

Imagine ur just chilling with friends and then 💥💥💥

[sharp lichen]

The same scare exists in real life, does it not?

[desert ridge]

I mean there isnt much stopping the sky from turning red and gray today

[full ridge]

This is pretty messed up to think about, but any work that mentions the existence of death to some extent insinuates the existence of children who have died. so yes, it is very likely that there was at least one child present in the kingdom when the explosion happened 😔

[hushed steeple]

I AGREE WITH THE SECOND THEORY!!!

....

that was certainloy an emotional rollercoaster

i go from: YES LES GO AURORAO AH!H!!!

to: ... childs died.... 😭

[low grove]

I mean Aurora is a seasonal guide, so it would make sense that she's guiding us somewhere, like how she's in both the beginning and the end of the game and there when you start it again. Maybe she IS a form of the megabird, just like how (i promise i'm not tryna make this biblical this is just the best example i could think of) Jesus was sent as a form of God to give a message to His people

[hushed steeple]

The wing part is probably just for gameplay reasons.
I think the consert in itself happening in colloseum is true in-universe (lore as you call it).
I dont think this is something that happens every 2 hours or that there are worp locations.
If I wore to say whats happening in the sky universe, I'd say that the voice of aurora would call out to the sky kids, who would know that Aurora will apear in the coloseum to spread her message at a curtain time.
The children would probably travel there phisicly, like something of a pilgramige. After all, with the increased population, more exploared regions and more interconected realms, its a lot easyer to do so compared to when the first sky kids apreared

[hushed steeple]

I perfectly understand your point, though I hasitate to make aurora to 'The Light" what Jesus is to God.
Not that the comparison is not good, It is perfect, just that I wouldent give aurora THAT level of significance, as in that she IS "The light" manifest in phisical form

I think maby she is a particular manifestation or aspect of 'The light", just as the cycle of light is another and the realm where we go in orbit to reincarnate is another....
All of these are a part of "The Light" and are seperate forces, locations and being in there own right, but non of them ARE "The Light"

"The Light" after all is not a god or a living being, but something much greater and metaphisical, while still haveing a will of its own.

[weary mason]

Hey there lore chat. So I got another piece of Lore for the Eden event that destroyed everything. We never got to see or know what explicitly happened when the Elders tried to stop the crystal, we know that they failed. But what was the reason for the skykids that remained on Eden who became stautes? My theory is that the Elders were discussing a means to destroy the crystal before it erupted. They would bring in several Skykids with them as a means of a backup source of power if the crystal proved to powerful for the Elders alone. The Elders brought the Skykids with them, but some perished their light along the journey to the crystal due to excessive amounts of darkness and Krills present. Once the Elders made it to the top, to where the crystal is, they and the Skykids used their light to destroy the Crystal, with the Elders being closer as their light is more powerful than the Skykids. Obviously the Elders failed and the Skykids perished with them, however becoming statues instead of being obliterated like the Elders. With the light being consumed by the Crystal, the Elders and the remaining Skykids only made the Eden Eruption occur sooner than expected, destroying everything and everyone in the Darkness.

This is neither proven or unproven, but with the amount of evidence there is, from the Statues in Eden to the memory of the Elders attempting to destroy the crystal, it's very likely that this was the case. However, like I said, it is neither proven or unproven to know for sure.

[low grove]

so she's a PART of the light source in a sense, but not actually THE light?

[sharp lichen]

I think the Skykids are recent ones, since we turn into a statue when we die

[weary mason]

Not really, no. Although we do become statues when we lose our light, shortly after, we break free from the statue along with the others that we freed, so in this case, the statues that are in Eden are those of Eden Eruption. As well as the ones we encounter during our journey towards the crystal, such as the ones near the cave.

[sharp lichen]

Because they statues appear to have very similar, if not the same, properties as us- they are dormant until we give winged light, and then they ascend like us

[weary mason]

That's exactly what I said in my initial theory. Because the Elders knew the crystal was going to be difficult to destroy, so they brought in extra Skykids to use their light as a means of BACKUP POWER to endure the harsh environment while trying to destroy the crystal, as well as some Skykids helping the Elders by using their Light to aid in the destruction of the Crystal.

[hushed steeple]

Yup👍

[weary mason]

I think a better analogy for this would be Arceus. In the pokedex it states that, "It is described in mythology as the Pokémon that shaped the universe with its 1,000 arms." And in Legends Arceus, Arceus gives himself to us, and in turn, a form of the god, it's giving us one of its many arms to us. Same thing like Megabird, Megabird has feathers, and so it gives us one of its many feathers as a means to appear in a comprehensive form. Thus Aurora

[low grove]

I also have a theory on why other sky kids are blacked out. They are like strangers to us, we don't recognise them. If we choose to share our light with them and they do the same, then you can recognise their look and call, but you still don't know them, if you leave you'll forget who they are and probably not come across them again. However, if you (or they) offer to share their light, like giving a gift, you'll remember them. You can give them a nickname, and go places with them, and you'll recognise them. And as you grow your relationship you become more friendly with them.

[hushed steeple]

well there is all this part of the interview for the animated series that might be relevant to the discusion

[hushed steeple]

"The other one tries to save te world by convincing the old world to give up its power"

[low grove]

Maybe she's the one that gives us the hints during the game, like a helping hand. Like a narrator who guides us like the guy from the Stanley Parable lmao

[weary mason]

Huh, I guess my very first Skylore theory is right.... I thought I would get shut down but no, it's proven. Well, technically proven until the series releases.

[hushed steeple]

Its quite possibe
In keeping with the whole "aspect" theorey, she would be the voice and memory of "The Light"

[low grove]

also shout out to @hushed steeple for reviewing all my random ideas 🤣

[hushed steeple]

Isnt that a great fealing😁
I can really relate with what you just said🤣
Cant wait for the animation to drop and conferm at least 80% of my other theorys

[weary mason]

Not only did Megabird give one of its feathers to us, but it used that feather to appear in a comprehensive form but also adapted a comprehensive name too, because we don't the true name of Megabird. It's like the Doctor from Doctor Who, he's the Doctor but it's only just a title. And in Peter's final speech before regenerating, he says, "It's not like anyone will understand it. Anyone except children, children will understand it."

[hushed steeple]

Thats actually a great point🤔

Aurora being a feaher of the great bird is a good metaphore for what is a complex metaphisical mater
And the part about the doctor is also good. How this thing has many names and many characteristics, but still the same thing

[weary mason]

Exactly, another successful theory, another amazing feeling of being right.

[hushed steeple]

THIS IS STREIGHT UP CANON FOR ME NOW🤣

well gotta go

[weary mason]

Anyways, imma head out, hopefully I'm right when the series releases.

[hushed steeple]

Fingers crossed🤞

[hoary ingot]

I don’t know if anyone has mentioned this before, but why are most spirits in the fetal position when we set them free? This makes me wonder if their deaths were slow, and the corrupting darkness forced them to their knees. They clutch their hearts because the feel their energy being drained..? That’s so dark, but it just makes me wonder about how they were just trapped in stone for possibly thousands of years.

[hushed steeple]

Actually I kinda asociated them more with Buddhist mummies as far as the inspiration goes (look it up😅)

As for in lore, well im guess all the spirits we see were not killed suddenly in the explosion, but died of natural couses (probably)

It might be possible that this is just the custam for the ancesters.
When they feel there light fading away and there conection with there charchole/wax body failing, they take that position

This is not the case for edan of course, where the death was instantaneus and they were frozen in there final pose

[low grove]

it's kind of like in Eden at the end when all the perished kids are lying there in the pose they died in, maybe before they all died they prayed to the megabird for forgiveness for destroying the kingdom?

[sharp lichen]

My only problem is that the Isle intro appears to say that Skykids only came after the end of the Shattering, many times afterward

[hoary ingot]

This may have been discussed too, but do we know what happened to Elders? In order to ‘meet’ them, we have to meditate. Would it have been the same for the Ancestors?

[left cipher]

Well I think so when we light the ancestors spirits they wait for us at the temples and pray with us like they are showing us the way. Also for us to truly be able to call on an elder we need to complete the ancestors, by "improving" our relationship. Once we are fully recognized by them only then ca we call the elders in orbit

[empty belfry]

looking at the brighest stars in the night sky, it makes a pattern like the ghost lamps in the vault of knowlege. I thought that it was neat

[lucid bridge]

What are your theories for the dead bird in the citadel?

[cold sparrow]

that its a statue and not a dead bird

[white depot]

i think its a reference to some other tgc game, not sure which one

[rigid iron]

I believe it's leftover from an old quest you can no longer do

from shira's beta memory album

[low grove]

it's ok he's just a lil sleepy

[native galleon]

Sleeping?????

[quiet solar]

i remember people theorising that the bird was a sculpture made by the ancestors to signify the victory over light creatures

[stoic oriole]

Can someone please tell me about the ss of rhythm's lore (if it has)? TY first

[sharp lichen]

(Ah, my least favorite season…)

Well, given how barebones the season is, the only confirmed fact we have is that Performance Guide and Rhythm Guide are twins

[quiet solar]

biggest question how did they get elder bird

[inland cliff]

i feel like out of all the old og seasons, belonging is the most mysterious, yet the most innocent one
The family associates much with diamonds patterns and has items in the campfire category
Not to mention they have access to the underground cavern/mines, an old construction island and a memory archive area, all consist of diamonds power and are very restrictive for just any1 to come in
Also in the final cutscene we see them literally stopped the rain by breaking the cloud layers

They definitely must have a higher authorities/power to do so much

[inland cliff]

Not much clue, only that the blow kiss spirit has their mask resembling it, idk if they’re connected or not

[lavish wind]

fingers crossed for another four-ts arrival next month

bc it was very interestin to see the last four in prairie peaks. i wonder if all the spirits go visit there? it is a pretty place lore-wise

[sharp lichen]

Did the teeth fact get deleted?? I can’t find it anywhere

[lucid bridge]

I love this grate. It’s a great (no pun intended) piece of environmental storytelling. Crabs kept crawling up the pipes so they had to close some of them off.

[native galleon]

The statues on the races have prosthetics how did i not notice this until now

[quiet solar]

now that i think about it, how did dark crabs come about? there deosnt seem to be any light creature that corresponds with them, like krills and mantas

[cold sparrow]

it seems they were already crabs before the darkness come, but the darkness infected them and made them aggressive

[quiet solar]

i see

perhaps the darkness puts them in pain

[lucid bridge]

Maybe
I think that the krill are either corrupted or , or they are like crabs and became aggressive when they previously were not. Or, maybe they were always aggressive creatures. The ecosystem has got to have predators somewhere.

[hushed steeple]

There is some sence to that "agressive creatures" argumemt, since in forest one of the spirits is refeard to as a "startled hunter:

Hello

[hushed steeple]

Hallo, you knew here?

[hushed steeple]

Nop

Actually nop

Well, hallo all the same😅☺️

Nvm @hushed steeple i am going to messure eden in CBM

You brave foolish fool, yout gonna get yourself masacared
Goog luck🫡

[hushed steeple]

Thats the whole point of cbm

Putting the mesurer in undesvribable pain, but looking cool as honk

So are you mesureing things IN edan or....?

[hushed steeple]

Im measuring EDEN itself

Chibi+meter!

Mhm

…

Great…

[quiet solar]

krills are corrupted mantas as can be seen from the murals in abyss, where corrupted manta eggs hatched into krill

[hushed steeple]

Good luck my brave dude

May you horrefaing death lead to a wealth of knowlige for the skyentific comunity

Your sacrefice will not be in vain
🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡

Ph well

Only 2929928 more chibis to go!

Nvm

Have to go to aleep, meanwhile, have my advance of today

[hushed steeple]

Fascinating

I feel like this is going to be one of those odisey-worth journeys

But nvm

[hushed steeple]

Just keep in mind that regions are usually a lot bigger in universe vs in game as opposed to creatures and structures

Then again, this is all in good fun, so thats probably not an issue here😅😅

[hushed steeple]

Wat

[lucid bridge]

Thank you for sharing that lore tidbit!

[quiet solar]

theres so many people who say 'what if krills were corrupted light creatures' so i feel like i must come in to tell them they are absolutely right

[lusty merlin]

Im a little lost, what exactly repesents the manta eggs in the abyss murals? If your talking about the ones shaped as diamonds then wouldn’t those represent the diamond crystals we see everywhere? There’s also a mine for the material and a mural for it showing being processed from said mine in the abyss area (that’s the one thing I could think as what you mean the manta eggs, unless I’m looking at the wrong thing)

[lusty merlin]

Also a fun fact it is canon krill’s are corrupted is stated by Jenova from this post https://www.thatskygame.com/news/sky-2nd-anniversary-livestream-recap, so it’s not just a popular theory, we just don’t know what animals they were corrupted from🎉

Pre Corrupted krills to me best fit to being this creature from the switch trailer, which in turn was a teaser for the two embers project wayy back (same charaters.) They’re around the same size, not as big as a whale or a grown elder manta (the one in sanc) but it’s mainly the glowing eye that makes me lean into it being this creature more. Though it doesn’t have the spikes or horns, so until we get a look if corruption can cause mutations like that, we just gotta wait and see

[languid island]

A small detail: when you start the game, you see a tombstone with flowers planted in front of it, in homespace. (Although it will be disappeared when your avatar is ready to move). But what is its significance?!

[quiet solar]

ok so apparently they were only in concept art and didnt make it out into live game (grey backgrounds)
the abyss murals did show that they caught mantas to be converted to light and at some point leviathan came about or was created somehow (black and blue blackgrounds)

[quiet solar]

for some reason it didnt tag you ^

[hushed steeple]

You are corect my friend😁

Although its up to personal interpreatation if this plot point was retconed or could still be a thing🤔

Technicly speaking, the two versions of the murals dont directly contradict each other, just that a peace of the story isnt shown

But again, this is not clear and up to interpretation eather way

(Insoficiant data problem😅)

[quiet solar]

maybe they wanted to make krills more mysterious so they removed those two murals

[real torrent]

Just learned that there used to be a king named Resh.
Does anyone know the name beside the the king? The light kid with a white crown

[leaden field]

Woah woah WOAH! Who is the person on the far right?

[lost zephyr]

mountain shaped goober.. hmmm

[sharp lichen]

A concept art for the Vault Elder

[sharp lichen]

I don’t remember anything like that to be honest

[sharp lichen]

Given the concept art, it would probably be the “Prince” or “Alef”, but keep in mind it is concept art that didn’t make it to the main game

[real torrent]

Who’s Alef and the prince?

[rapid latch]

Do you think skykids age?
I do

[ocean saddle]

They don't physically age, I think.

[rapid latch]

I think they do age, cuz grandma exists
Plus that’s why there are ‘stache masks that look old

[native galleon]

Those are ancestors, not skykids. Ancestors could age and are similar to humans in many other ways, that’s why we see spirits of all ages. We don’t know if skykids age.

[real torrent]

Very interesting

[native galleon]

Common theories on skykids aging (credit to Alasdair) -

there's a few takes on skykids aging:

1. skykids haven't been around long enough to witness them aging.
2. skykids can't age due to recurrent rebirthing.
3. skykids do not age naturally like irl humans – even if they were 50 years old, they would remain physically childlike.

[hushed steeple]

Wait, you see it too
And here I though I was going crazy😅

[sharp lichen]

A concept art name for the Eden Elder

[obtuse tapir]

I keep seeing it when i open the game but i thought its just a basket of flowers

[sharp lichen]

I think they can’t physically age, but they can mature

[real torrent]

Hear me out guys🙏
I got a theory so maybe all the spirits ages, including the dark king Resh.
But the dark king had fall in love with a being that would never die a being of light✨
And the sky kids are their child’s✨
Although Resh didn’t made it through the game maybe it’ll appear in the future??

Ignore the light dog I added it for fun

[gusty flint]

Okay dumb question, but is there a complete explanation of the lore beginning to end?

[real torrent]

I don’t think there is one yet 🤔
But if there is I wanna know 😭

[lyric imp]

Not exactly, but there is the general story. Qncestors built a civilisation, inventing technology whose production required exploitation of resources and creatures. This probably caused a crisis which was to be solved by the chosen one who might have built the eden crystal but it was unstable and backfired horrobly killing everyone, for the most part

And then there are sky kids who free tjeir trapped spirits and clean up their mess

[hexed brook]

How do you think the world of sky was created? Has it always been there or did they have a big bang or did the megabird act as a sort of God? What are your thoughts?

[sharp lichen]

There is no end, but there can always be a beginning

https://docs.google.com/document/d/12XSkaMV_5UYG-an_Qo37ItyKP6GaqBBA6iRqBVE2qck/edit

[obtuse tapir]

Ayo thanks for the lore basics

[versed mirage]

I think it’s the player

[hushed steeple]

The obviace answer is that we'll have to wait for the animation for a deffinetive answer😅

Although there is another possability here. Does it have to be 1 creature that turns into 1 krill, of for that mater....a living creature thats corupted
What if the fusion of the corpses, tainted light and combined negative emotions of a whole bunch of creatures that creates the krill. Maby its not so much which creature, but a curtain critical mass or quota of corupted light from killed creatures , pollution and negative emotions put together that all give birth to 1 krill

[lusty merlin]

Anything could be possible, as you said we just gotta wait for two embers to see

[hushed steeple]

The only think we know for curtain is that megabird (The Light) shaped and gave life to the world along with creating us, the ancesters and the stars
Weather it was the force that crated the universe itself or just a force that shaped it after the fact is kinda inposble to say with any curtainty right now

[hushed steeple]

march can not come soon enough😂

[real torrent]

I see that might be it 🤔
I think I’m overthinking lot of things but I can’t help it 👁️👁️

[real torrent]

Can’t wait to see it!✨🔥

[hushed steeple]

Its not the player
Admitedy this is part of the old canon, but the kid with the crown was the first child of light, and it eventually become the leader of elders and the old kingdom
Over time, they grew larger and larger, changing there name to Resh, growing larger and larger, and becomeing the king that all the statues in waistland reference
In this old version of the story the king was the final boss of edan, I colossos that was hyper corupted by light that the players neaded to defeat

Ahh

I keep torturing myself!

But anyways

The old concept of the prince/king seamed to have been compleatly removed or abandomed by TGS, with only curtain murals and the first spirit memory in Isle of down to comferm there existance to long time lore fans, and otherwise there had been no official comfermation for years that the prince/king are even a thing anymoere in sky......
That is...until the sky series interview
Seams that TGS were remaking the story of thi's character from the ground up.
This does make any discusion and theory on the subject tricky as until the series come out we can tell for curtain how much of the old concept art even resembles canon anymore😅

Only half way more of eden to go!

[hushed steeple]

Wait, you already managed to do half of it already

……

I REACHED MAX CAPES LIMIT

[real torrent]

👁️👄👁️✨that’s cool now my brain is braining again 😶‍🌫️

[hushed steeple]

I present to you smt called

“Hyper focus”

And carpiantunnel syndrom ofc…

[real torrent]

It would be cool if we could see the story of the king.
I think it’s a really cool idea and a very interesting character 🤔

[sharp lichen]

We will, in March

[hushed steeple]

Just

A little

More!!

DONE!!!

[sharp lichen]

Uh—-

[hushed steeple]

After a day of waiting, here you have

eden messired on chibis

Remember me to never do that again

Now

Lets count them!

Yey

I think imma go insane

[cold sparrow]

could easily just measure the amount of pixela and calculate how many chibis that are

[hushed steeple]

DOME

eden messures

194.5 CBM

Proximatley

Imight never recover from that

[sharp lichen]

Eden is… 50 meters tall?? That’s

[hushed steeple]

Oh common

[spare verge]

I had some random headcanon for the skykids.

[sharp lichen]

Spill

[spare verge]

What I was gonna say here is that there was a pocket dimension that wl can stay in once they have been collected by the player.

[sharp lichen]

Isn’t the “pocket dimension” just the cape?

[civic rune]

what did you set the canvas size to 😟

[civic rune]

mmmm probably

[native galleon]

oooh i had a theory similar to this, and Salem did before me! i dont think its likely after seeing that trailer but 🤝 i support you

[native galleon]

that’s not accounting for distance tho, we don’t know how far away it is

[sharp lichen]

Yeah, it seems wrong

[hardy mantle]

I am attempting to write a fully fleshed out document of all my headcanons and interpretations of the lore of Sky, but at the moment I'm just setting up the categories
So far, I have the History, World/Setting, Skychild Physiology, Skychild Culture, Physical World, and Magic... but can anyone think of anything else I might want to elaborate on?

[sharp lichen]

Maybe merge “World/Setting” with “Physical World”, it seems your document is already extremely detailed

Everything else seems fine

[hushed steeple]

Well,the pilot is in march😅
Then its off to more waiting,and waiting, and waiting

[hardy mantle]

I only have them seperated because the World/Setting is more lore oriented, describing the realm as a whole and its kingdoms, but the Physical World is describing stuff like the light crystals, the rain in Forest, and the way light and darkness interact ^^

I have a lot of headcanons It's gonna be a lot to write

[sharp lichen]

I’ll be happy to see it

[hardy mantle]

I can share it with you privately if you want :D (when its finished)

[lyric imp]

Bro no way. You could compare a pole of chibis to eden if you are at the same height as the peak. Otherwise you'd have to look at angles to account for perspective and stretch the chibi column by the right amount, though if you can calculate angles like this it could just be easier to do triangulation or sth
(Also i expect eden height to just be inconsistent across realms)

[sharp lichen]

Sure! (Show it here if you’re ready as well)

[lyric imp]

I'm also interested. Would you like to share with me, too, when you're done? Alternative, i suppose lore chat would be a good place for it

[sharp lichen]

The only real way we have is by physically measuring the height of both Eden and Vault

[lyric imp]

Ehhh, i suspect you could just triangulate several points and calculate distances between them, but i'm mot sure we have that much precision. Using camera it might be hopeful, though

[hardy mantle]

I'm only hesitant to post it in this server because of past experiences with the lore chat– but that's not the fault of the whole, just a few sour apples

I'll remember you two and message you guys when it's done

[lyric imp]

Thank you ^-^

[native galleon]

yeah sky is allergic to consistent sizes of things so measuring anything is really just for fun

using chibis as a measurement is objectively funny tho and we should keep doing it

[hushed steeple]

Also maby
-regions (for theory's about specific locations and subcategory's of world/setting)
-elders/ancesters (individuals or small groups) -sociaty/economy.....
-Phisical world
-nature of darkness and light
-creatures/ecology + darkness ecology
-cycle of reincarnation

Thats all for now

[sharp lichen]

Especially around Vault and Eden

The Vault final room is just really confusing

I know some people say it’s the same as the first floor but more ruined, but:

1. Seasonal areas exist on the first floor, which could lead to some bizarre implications

2. It would mean that Wasteland and Eden would technically be on the same level

However, the other possibility (that it actually is just the highest part of Vault) is also confusing. Did the elevator just break through the floor?

[rapid latch]

im literally a chibi myself and don’t need it

[hushed steeple]

Can you poast it to me too
We can trade doc's if you like

[native galleon]

something something purple light

also. five foot two, need i say more

[hardy mantle]

I have those subjects all as sub categories for the major categories ^^ Thank you though!
I will send it to you when it's done too

[hushed steeple]

Oh, thats ok then☺️
Thanks so much🤩👍

[hushed steeple]

…

Damn, ao much hate for messurinf eden

And yes ik its not precise at ALL

I messured from valley since thats the realm i think is the nearest to eden, and ofc from where eden can be seen ofc,

[lyric imp]

Maybe canonically the rest of the vault if out of bounds compared to that place before eden? There is just one one way collision for the floor and we just fly or get launched through it or sth
(This is meant to ne a joke but funnily enough it adds up. The cutscene place actually is in the same area as the pre-eden vault room, below it, out of bounds. Flying up from there would be possible if you had enough wring power)

[next glen]

Here’s a random theory by me. Whales could potentially have the ability to transport through all the realms of sky which was granted to them by the elders, an exception being for Golden Wasteland & Eye of Eden. What if the Krills are just reborn whales that lost their light desperately trying to find a way out of these two realms, which ended up permanently transforming them into Krills?

[pearl granite]

I think if they have such an ability, they would be able to do that.
Me thinks that those whales just got into contact with dark water for too long

[next glen]

I think some of them do manage to escape, but, most of them do get devoured by the darkness and turned into these Krills!

[pearl granite]

horrible, horrible fate

But if that kind of corruption can happen to whales, that are nothing short of giants

Can sky kids also undergo such horrid transformation?

[next glen]

I think that us sky kids are an exception to this. Most of us do manage to make it out. The whales are not as fortunate as us though!

[pearl granite]

well, tbf, there aren't any humaniod creatures of darkness...

..yet

[next glen]

There certainly might be…

[pearl granite]

if you count the dark kid in the ending, i think that's just an empty vessel (body) inhabited by the light (spirit)

that's just all speculation tho

[next glen]

It could be for all we know!

[pearl granite]

maybe, maybe

[next glen]

Another random theory I have is that Krills and Whales are both the same species. However, their forms may be temporarily altered after being transported to Golden Wasteland & Eden.

[pearl granite]

like a way to adapt to a new environment?

[next glen]

Exactly!

Their minds may also be temporarily altered, hence why the Krills can be so aggressive

These are both dumb theories, lol. I just want to have your opinions about it

[hushed steeple]

Thats is one possebility, but a good one, especially considering that the place with the most active krill population is a whale graveyard

[next glen]

[pearl granite]

Maybe krills are whales that grieved too much they got consumed by sadness

[next glen]

😂😂😂

[pearl granite]

Ehh, just to throw a bone into the works eh?

[next glen]

Haha! Definitely ^^

[hushed steeple]

If this peace part of the concept art turns out to still be canon....I would say its more murder then sadness that ended them😖😫

[next glen]

Agreed

[ashen coyote]

that's a nice theory

[reef fulcrum]

Are all the trees in The Hidden Forest dead? They're all grey, like they're petrified, and I haven't seen a single living green leaf.

[lost zephyr]

I don’t think they’re actually trees, but instead resemble them.

[sharp lichen]

Yeah, they probably got slash-and-burnt

[hushed steeple]

Well depends on which parts of the forest your talking about

Most of the trees in forest have there tops obscured by clouds
This is deffinitly made to save on graphics, though its possible that in universe these trees arent dead, but arent at a point where they can procuce full folliage

[umbral hawk]

Everything in the forest is dead , there is graves and skeletons so, the trees are prolly dead yeah
Plus we know because of the sky trailer that many of the areas were “obliterated” -maybe cuz of the eye of eden
As in the isle of dawn , that was green and alive , and now is a desert

[hushed steeple]

I said Im not done yet, Im getting to it😂

Going deeper into the forest, you see more signs of cut down or degrading trees, as we are getting closser to the industrial center of the kingdom

[umbral hawk]

I was answering to Zero actually😭

[hushed steeple]

Sorry I know, but I have to break it apart into multiple posts becouse Im useing puctutes😅

[umbral hawk]

Don’t worry , I get your theory and I like it

[hushed steeple]

Once you enter the heart of the kingdom, everything is streight up dead
Trees were cut down and torn apart in the production of crystals and building materials, while the polution makes it difficult for anything to grow back

Intereatingly enough, you can see a clear devide in the elevated clearing ( grandma's place) where one side of the canyon has live trees, while the other are all cut down and torn down

[hardy mantle]

Just stopping in to give my two cents ^^
It should be noted that the trees in Hidden Forest look a lot like trees that have been affected by acid rain, down to the way some of the trees in the Boneyard section have snapped instead of being cleanly cut down

Of course, I dont think Sky's rain is ammonia poisoning or aluminum... but darkness is Sky's chemical poisoning in a sense, no?

[lean kayak]

I think its a mix cuz in the graveyard area there's a spirit memory in which a tree gets cut down. I think it's apologetic lumberjack or something?

[hardy mantle]

Oh definitely a mix of cutting and falling naturally /gen

[hushed steeple]

I knew those trees were reminding me of something, but could never put my finger on in for years🤣🤣

Well there you go, trees near the heart of the kingdom and the temple were mostly cut down and torn down, while the dark rain of forest took out all that remained

[lyric imp]

There were corrupted sky kids in very old concept art but they scrapped it

[hushed steeple]

🤞Finger crossed on TGS recycling this concept in the future🤞

[lyric imp]

Ah yes, child zombies in a family friendly, wholesome game :p /lh

[cold sparrow]

well, Minecraft has some too

[finite cosmos]

Is there a story behind the fairy ring?

[obtuse tapir]

Perhaps the clouds ARE the leaves /j

[fleet crystal]

hey lore chat! i don’t know if anyone’s asked this before or if it’s been confirmed to be canon, but do you guys think skykids lose their memories after being reborn from eden? like when they fall from the sky as a star(?) again and land in home, do they remember their past journey and go into eden again on purpose? or do they completely forget everything

[sharp lichen]

I think the only thing Skykids lose is the winged light, otherwise they retain everything

[reef fulcrum]

I think by virtue of the fact that "their memories" are actually only the things you know they must remember each subsequent Life.

Taking the perspective of observational science (as I so often love to do) you could plainly witness a Skykid discovering places and things in one life; to then die and return and behave as if already having discovered those things.

Further; I would go on to say that they can also remember certain things from any Lifetimes their souls experienced potentially before ever incarnating as a Skykid. It goes on to say some broad things about their Souls actually being reincarnated Humans; and tying into the fact I mentioned in the beginning. That we are actually them, and their knowledge and memories are carried with us.

[reef fulcrum]

This is a very good point I hadn't considered. There's a lot of good posts about the trees since this morning, but I wanted to get on this rq. None of the trees (in the Elevated Clearing or the Sunny Forest or wherever) have any lively color to the bark, and there are plainly understood ways this can happen.

[lapis plover]

Minor thing to debate: do Sky Kids age? If so, what happens when they grow up?
Personally I think they can change their age based on how they're feeling, ranging from toddler to early 20s in maturity and appearance
This might fall into headcanon territory since I don't think the game addresses it

[fleet crystal]

that's true, thanks for your insight!

[sharp lichen]

After all, “All are born from starlight.”

[sharp lichen]

Maturity they can change a little, but physically they will remain a child and will societally be treated as one

[lyric imp]

If they lose memories, the "you are about to be reborn. The real journey starts here" splash text after the first rebirth wouldn't make sense

[fleet crystal]

oh that’s true LOL thx!

[lyric imp]

If we assume the king was indeed a sky kid, we have pretty good clues to suggest they can become adults if they live long enough. Possibly rebirth reverts them to the original state so we don't really see it

[hushed steeple]

Hi. Has there been any news on the art book? At all?

[hushed steeple]

I think we might need to wait until we compleat the aviary season to know for absolute curtainty.

The trailer shows glimpses of tree's (or at least branches) with green leafs, and also trees with there branches in the clouds.

So then that comes will have test samples of a comfermed live tree, and between the two forests we can deffinetevly determine the properties of a sky tree

That is......unless TGS decide to remove the tree's for the finnal veraion of the game 😅😅😅😅

Please dont, please dont, please dont...🙏🙏

[hushed steeple]

Thats a good point
The elders and the king (in the concept art) did no go through death and rebirth, instead living for centuries and grew in size and power.

I think there a special case and the ancesters and most sky kids cant do that, but we know its theoreticly possible

[hushed steeple]

We though the animation project was just a myth a while back😅, and here we are

There's no word at all, but I think it makes the mast sence that it comes out after the animation

[lucid bridge]

I have a question about the war. It was diamonds vs sunbursts. Do we have any information on either side?

What they were fighting about, their ideals, etc?

[hushed steeple]

The detale's are a bit hard to determine becouse of the lore changes between the concept arts and the curent game

OLD VERSION

In the very old concept art is was clearly said as a war between light creatures and ancesters, and was started becouse of the stedaly growing abuse that the anceaters made on the enviromant, the creatures and the cycle of light and reincarnation that the ancesters were cousing with there overuse of crystals, the rapid expantion of there civiluzation, and all the things that needed to be done to maintain all that

Also acording to one version there were multiple conflicts
A small confluct at first that the anceaters won, and established the new status quo with them in charge. Aftet that it was decided by the king that waistland should be militerised with turents and high deffencive walls in case the light creatures decided to atack again.
You needed to go through waistland to get to what in the curent age is know as edan, where you have the path towards reincarnation, but also where the capital of the sky kingdom was established, ans with that, the seat of power for the king

Eventually this escalated into a great war. This time the light creatures were sereous.
This war lasted a long time, and in nearly all of the giant sky cratures endes up dieing (boneyard). There was also a lot more bones all over the place in the original version of Waistland, but they toned it down in the curent version.

[hushed steeple]

There were a lot of things different in the old version of the story, with no power diamond and great shaterig event, a story about the ancesters using arcs to fligh up to heaven and escape the devestation on earth, and the last of the fighting giant light creatures giving there lifes to destroy them, and the king as a giant and the main antagonist of the story ( and final boss of old version of edan.....)

NEW VERSION

Its hard to say with 100% curtainty how much of the old lore is true, given that there is lot of hints to some of this story in the game itself

What we do know from the game is that the war was mostly fought between ancesters, a civil war that ended up being centered in waistland ( again, you need to controle waistland to get to edan and the capital)

If I were to give my opinion, the 2 sides were based on region, but on ideology
Those who suported the curent regine, and those who fought for change.
I think the one fighting against the king propably took the side of the light creatures, as given that the boneyard is still canon, there must have been an initial war with the light creatures traing to destroy the waistland factorys and taking back edan, and this ended with massive damage to the deffences and infrastructure in waistland, but also a bloody masacar for the light creatures, which lead to the main war between the ancesters

[ebon wind]

just a quick lore question, does anyone know why the isle elder doesn't appear on the Eden gate? just something i noticed and was curious about.

[hushed steeple]

We had many discusions about this part

Basicly, the Isle Elder was the first to get dissilusioned with the crystal dependent sociaty and the changing politics of the kingdom, being strongly atatched to the old ways. It seams that he had a falling out with the other elders and the king before the gates to edan (and by extention the edan kingdom) was build, so thats why he isnt on the dore

(Maby😅)

[ebon wind]

Hmmm I mean it's something, I was expecting there to be almost nothing on it so

[hushed steeple]

Nothing on it?

[ebon wind]

No info

[hushed steeple]

Depends on what you mean by info

There is no official info on it
What I told you is all plossible interpretation, not fact.

[ebon wind]

Yes, I just don't know any other words to describe what I mean haha

[hushed steeple]

Its also inportant to remember that in the "Light awaits" version of the game before the lounch, Isle of Down was a tutorial level you only go once per reincarnation.
The isle elder was a boatman who staeted you off on your journey, and took you to the old aviary where you coould only travel to the other 5 realms.
You get the blessing of isle elder to start the game, you get the blessing of the other 5 to go to edan

On top of that, you needed 5 players to light the 5 crystals at the same time to open the dore

So OFFICIALLY, the absence of isle elder head is just a holdover from this older version of the game

[ebon wind]

Yeah I assumed the lack of isle elder on the door was that it used a similar model to the light awaits gate which had isle as the tutorial

But I wanted to see what anyone had come up with in terms of lore, canon or not

[hushed steeple]

Well I told you what that was before☺️

[hushed steeple]

Right here

[ebon wind]

Yea

[rapid latch]

Plus he’s the worst elder
He was the dad.. of the man who brought death, calamity and corruption to sky, and killed millions of skykids in the eden storm(resh)

[hushed steeple]

Preaty shure that was compleatly made up😂

[rapid latch]

I heard he raised resh

[hushed steeple]

Where?

[rapid latch]

Jk it was made up

[hushed steeple]

😏

[rapid latch]

Do you think skykids can get sick?
I think. So

[native galleon]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message another theory on this :3

[cold sparrow]

this is from the teaser trailer for project aviary, isn't it
that was in the news channel

[hushed steeple]

That wasnt beta content, it was from the trailer fron 4 months ago😅

[native galleon]

Oh was it? I didn’t see it that’s my bad

[hushed steeple]

Thats why I didnt look at beta youtube channels to see how the area looks😅

[native galleon]

I saw the message before had something to do with the new season so I assumed whatever screenshots you posted were unreleased, I’m sorry

[hushed steeple]

Thanks ok☺️

Honestly your reaction was mostly justefied, as its not right to post any beta content what so ever in here

[native galleon]

I just personally don’t like getting new seasons spoiled too early, and I thought that was what you were doing

Although it’s not that early anymore, the final quest is out and we’re entering the weird in between phase soon

[hushed steeple]

I know, thats why I used trailer pics just in case🤗

[native galleon]

anyway yall are lucky i was asleep when someone asked about the diamond vs sun side /j

i’m becoming lore chat’s version of a history bro

except the history is made up and its just me citing old posts while i add to my conspiracy theory board

[hushed steeple]

Speaking of history, I have a theory about it
Or more acuratly how to devide it😅

Most of the history before the start of the game is devided into 3 era
1 Fire era (starting with the begining of the ancester race up until the discovery of the dark stones
2Crystal era ( from its descivery and the great groath of the civilizarion to the explosion of the edan crystal)
3 Dark era ( the destruction of the old kingdom, the spread of darkness, and things calming down over many decades, leading to the arival of the first sky kids

.
These are pased on the official timeline from the sky concept art.
You can devide each era into seperate ages, but Im waiting until the animation to post the official sky timeline😅

[hushed steeple]

I AM YOUR FATHER
Aleph : No, it cant be, THAT'S INPOSIBLE!!!
Look inside, you know this to be true🤣🤣
(Sorry, had to do it😅)

[native galleon]

oh yea i have thoughts about this as well-
first of all, we don’t know that this is still true, current lore suggests that the downfall of the kingdom was much, much more complicated than the king just bringing corruption bc they’re evil. I don’t think that’s the case at all actually
second of all, even if that were the case, does that mean that if anyone does a bad thing, it’s the fault of the people who raised them? i don’t think so

[hushed steeple]

Exelant point

The original story is deffinetly gonna change given what we know about the 2 embers series

However, the statues of this figure are all over Waistland, so I do think we will be seing a dark king in the new canon, even if his character is more morally complex and influanced by the changes in sociaty

[hushed steeple]

They put king/prince in the series then my heart will beam with sky yet again.

I don't know how much has been revealed but my theory it follows a ancestor kid in the past and a skykid in the present looking more solid with every drop that comes out.

[hushed steeple]

Oh, interesting idea🤔
I can see it☺️
Not entirely shure if the second kid is from the current age given the interview🤔

At the very least I do hope that the 2 protagonists exist in different eras and we switch between them
I really dont want to have them condence the inportant history of the old sky kingdom to a coupe of decades
Rings of power already droped the all with that one (among maby other blunders)

[dull dome]

Can we tell our theories in here?

[hushed steeple]

Thats what this channel is for☺️

[dull dome]

Oh wow thanks you!

[dull dome]

I think that the fall of the sky world happend like this:
People found out that light can be used for some of a activities, so they started catching the light creatures to produce the light more and more. They used tooo much light from light creatures and other sources, and people started dying because of lack of light. The king (aka guy that rules eden) didn't care about them and then he died too. The rest of people (probably) were consumed by darkness in eden that turned them into rocks. After a reaaaaly long time when everything is quiet, first skykids started falling down. Probably all of u already know that skykids have cores (aka their hearts). You can see their heart if you look closely at center of their chest. Also candles that skykids have are their cores, because when you take put your candle your heart dissapears. So the first skykids went to eden and failed, and everysingle of them failed until our skykid. Also first skykids didn't have capes because those capes are souls of skykids that died in eden. But our skykids has got a gift from those who died in eden. But now i think that skykids started falling down a little later because of one cutscene from a spirit. It shows how that spirit saw a skykid falling down from the sky, so this means that skykids started falling when things went wrong with light. Our skykid fell when everything was already quiet and many skykids went to eden. So maybe our skykid fell after a really long time maybe like a century or more.

Sorry if theres any mistakes and sorry if used too much of word "skykid"

[hushed steeple]

Well, this was a lot
Honestly your kinda right about most of this, even if the detales need work😅
Also some healpfull advice, try to put some seperation between the different theory's,as its kinda hard to keep track when everything's in one contineous word text☺️

As for your throry's.....

[hushed steeple]

1 This is from a curtain point of view corect, as this is the backstory of the crystals or darkstones that power everything in the old kingdom.
Light is neaded to produce the crystals, and originally this light was produced from light harvesters in Daylight priery and other places, who exported it in jars to crystal production temples.
As the years gone past and the kingdom grew larger and more prosperous this wasnt enough, so more elaborate and destructive methods were were used to get that light, eventually leading to sacrefising light creatures in te proces of draining them of there light.
Over time this ended up draining more and more of the light energy from the enviromant as well as creating a lot of polution in the regions where the crystal temples were located

soooooo......

[hushed steeple]

2 The king probaly didnt care, or at least though he was justified in doing this, but so did much of the old sociaty. However, he didnt die until near the end of the old era.
The world of sky was slowly dieing over time, and this got exelatated with the great war, but the final end of the old civilization happened quickly, as the coruption and overload of the newly created edan crystal brough about a cataclysm that instantly killed all the inhabitants of edan, the king, and the elders, the terrible storm and a plague od darkness consumed the old world

Then, after a reaaaaaaaly long time when everything calmed down, the first skykids started falling down

[hushed steeple]

3 The core and the candle thing is preaty right, and a well known idea. Our core is super condenced pure light. I dont think the whole heart disapears though, just part of that light is turned into a candle

[hushed steeple]

4 That cutscene your refearing to doesnt show the comeing of the first skykids as we know them. We'll have to wait for the animation for more detales on that, but in the old story that was the first child of light what would become the king of sky. They were not the same as our skykids, nor were the children of the ancesters the same kind of being as skykids. For the curent cannon this part is not 100% clear given all the lore changes, but the animated series will give us a deffinetive answer

[hushed steeple]

Hope this helps and didnt just make things more confusing😅

[versed mirage]

Does Sky have a location focused on industry?

[cold sparrow]

That seems to have been the golden wasteland
we see pipes and a massive ship with gilded darkstone containers
presumably once the center of darkstone production
and abyss was probably something of a research station, if not a place of production itself

[hushed steeple]

Abyss was boath.
We see many carts with tiped over rows materials and finished crystals, as well as a whole infrastructure dedicated to transporting them back and forth

Also, Waistland probably become the main industrial center of the old kingdom much later into the crystal age

Forest was the original, going through different phases of producing cryatals, and mining the earth for row materials. Eventually it got outpaced by waistland, boath becouse the recorces ended up getting more depleated, and becouse waistland started out with the more advanced tech from the start and so could buuld its infrastructure around it

[lyric imp]

Wasteland and forest. Forest temple and the broken temple are darkstone refineries. Underground cavern and reef have seen large scale darkstone mining projects

Arguably wasteland could have been on a much larger scale though

[sharp lichen]

Maybe, but the kids look ambiguous, like both Ancestors and Skykids)

[versed mirage]

My guess it’s more where they sent wastewater since they could’ve used water drills to mine easier

[lyric imp]

We don't really see drills, but who knows. My headcannon is that at least some pipes in wasteland were connected to the pipes in eden. When you think about it, they are really, really close to each other. Taking in waste water is possible, although we don't see pipes in other realms often, so i'm a bit skeptical

[lyric imp]

I just realised it's the famous compilation Kamilico

[hushed steeple]

Kamilico?

[drifting heath]

Aren’t ascended children of light just straight up wingbuffs ?

[hushed steeple]

Or wing buffs are what ascended chidren look like when there traped on earth😅

[lyric imp]

Use keyword 'compilation' and search in lore chat

[hushed steeple]

Ok, Im gonna sound like an old grandpa asking about computets now, but....
How does that work😅?

[lyric imp]

Ctrl F, type in the searchbar Kamilico

[hushed steeple]

No, I mean, how do I do that on my phone😅

Ctrl F Kamilico ( didnt work😅)

[lyric imp]

Swipe left when in the channel and click the magnifying glass, then type in:lore-discussion-spoilers Kamilico

[hushed steeple]

Oh wow, those look amazing😍😍😍
Thanks for the help☺️
Sorry for being such a grandpa😅

[hushed steeple]

✨

[soft timber]

[soft timber]

Hewwo peeps

[lyric imp]

Gweetings

[soft timber]

:3

[hardy mantle]

I forgot that Im an insanely verbose person
Writing my interpretation of Sky's history has already taken up two and a quarter pages... and I'm not even done

[hushed steeple]

Thats perfectly ok☺️
Thats why your writing it in doc insted of makeing a post

We can compare notes when your done
I might even sent you pictures to go with your writing

[hardy mantle]

That sounds like fun :D
I already have a few images from concept art to support my theories but I'm not putting them in the doc... yet
Because not everything is supported by evidence, some things I made up to fill in the gaps because I think they're cool

Here's a good example of something I thought up on my own accord: light crystal, or edenite, is a flexible material not in malleability but in alignment
It can either be aligned with light (the power diamonds / speckled crystals in Peaks) or darkness (red shards / dark crystals in Eden)
And I could go waaaay into it, but I'll save that for the document :scheme_emote_here:

[proven creek]

does anyone know whats the lore of sky? like the whole thing compiled (i pasted this from gen chat)

[sharp lichen]

There’s no full thing, but here’s a basic summary: https://docs.google.com/document/d/12XSkaMV_5UYG-an_Qo37ItyKP6GaqBBA6iRqBVE2qck/edit

[hardy mantle]

I would say yes, if my interpretation of the lore wasn't heavily biased by my own opinions and ideas
Which is where the issue lies with providing a proper resource. Sky's lore is very vague on purpose, so that people can make their own conclusions and have their own ideas about the lore. In that way, it makes Sky a really personal experience that I personally enjoy
I really encourage you to piece together your own story for Sky There are some hard backed facts about the lore that lore chat can help you with, but feel free to fill in the gaps yourself

[hushed steeple]

That was very much the intention of the game devs😅

Though some things are more objective then others, as you got things that are directly stated and shown in the game, things that are inplied, and things that are not directly shown, but can be logicly made to fill in the gaps

The sky animation will deffinetivly give us way more of the first categoty, but even then there will be a lot thats left to interpretation when it comes to the detales

[hushed steeple]

Interesting theory
Edenite is also a fantastic name for the material......despite the fact that most of it wasnt found in edan😅
Still a cool name

Also, I think that even with the things that dont have direct photo evidence, you can still use a pic that shows something similar

[hardy mantle]

You're very right – Edenite is honestly a term I used in 2020/2021 when I was still a moth, because I first started thinking about the material as it was in Eden's mountain
It's a bit outdated, but I still like the term

[hushed steeple]

Well like I said before, there are different levels of objectivity and correctness to a sky theory😂
In this case if a theory does not contradict anything that's observed in the game or stated in an interview/official material, it can still be true despite not having definitive evidence for it
This type of theory must however make sense within the context of more observable evidence, and it cant neceseraly be used to deny someone elses theory of said category

[hushed steeple]

You think I should make a theory guidline like this, with multiple levels of theory validity?🤔

[hardy mantle]

Oh? What do you mean?

[hushed steeple]

Just a though. Like a list of theory category.
like top of the list would be theorys that are based on what is directly said and shown in the game or animation
while bottom of the list are theorys that have no evidence or are based on anithing in the game (just made up), but also don't directly go against direct evidence

[hardy mantle]

Oh!! I see
I dont see a problem with doing that?*

[hushed steeple]

Just dont know if peaple are interested in that

[hardy mantle]

I'm sure they would be!

[hushed steeple]

well, lets give it a trile run😅

TYPE 1 Theories directly based on what is directly shown and stated in the game (cutscenes, spirit memory, mural text…..) stated by the creators, or seen in the animated series.

• Such theories can not be denied if one has a different interpretation of lore, as they are based on direct solid evidence
• They can however be argued against if the interpretation of said evidence is bad or incorrect (this wont work if the opposing theory also has bad interpretation)
• Type 1 evidence can be used to disprove theories of type 3 and beyond, so long as said theories directly contradict type 1 evidence

TYPE 2 Theories that are based on logical observations of the world of sky.

• These need to be backed up by good arguments and examples, and can't have any good example's that show it can't be true
• Need to having multiple examples that support the theory, or makes sense when seen from many different points of view.
• Can't directly contradict Type 1 evidence, but can be true even if not directly stated as true by the game, animation or devs
• Still open to criticism if better examples and analysis of data is presented, but cant be disproven by type 4 evidence and beyond

Thats all I got for now😅
This ended up being a bit more time-consuming then I thought
Have plans to go at least up to type 5 or 6, but detales need work

[hushed steeple]

Should I continue with this?
Any objections to how its writen so far?

[crisp socket]

theory: grass is moss

[sharp lichen]

@warden

[cold cipher]

uhm the lore in sky is uh

the lore in sky is that

these children who have capes are and then they js kinda, go to the end

yeah

and my sky theory is that the krills in wasteland gamble

[versed mirage]

krill r just charred tempura that the elder eats everyday but one day they just got sentient thats my theory

[gusty flint]

Do Sky Children need to eat and drink?

[rapid latch]

def yeah
days of bloom props are proof

[cobalt palm]

I finally remembered to do a shard with the camera and I noticed, within the shattered diamond guide, a smaller pure unshattered diamond

[nimble tundra]

A Diamond inside a Diamond, hehe

[cobalt palm]

Symbolic of the pure uncorrupted center of the corrupted king perhaps?

Further allegory that despite how much we get surrounded by corrupting forces, there is still something pure within us, even if it's hidden and pushed deep within us.

[lyric imp]

what
Oh wow

Imo it might represent the pure light that originally filled the diamond but had been repressed by oberwhelming darkness

[low grove]

oh yeah i was wondering the other day, what is the giant fish you can find below the treasure reef when you go really deep underwater and then the cutscene plays and theres loads of small fish and a really big one?

[sharp lichen]

They can, but they don’t gain any nutrients or flavor from it

It’s just an optional thing

[lyric imp]

That big fish is a topic of many heated discussions in lore chat :p

[low grove]

aah i see

[lyric imp]

You can search 'leviathan' and 'ruby' in this chat but icll try to give a brief overview

They're related tp abyss questline. Lore-wise they're some kind of corrupted creature and it's debated what exactly. Existing theories suggest a giant eel, whale or mutated manta centipede as seen in one of the abyss murals

With each theory having some counterarguments. I personally like the manta centipede theory because it makes a cohesive story that includes the murals. Essentially ancestors experimented on mantas to extract light from them and they created new manta breeds. One of them was very big abd long and looked a bit like lots of mantas combined. After lising its light it slowly transformed into a dark creature that we see in game

[low grove]

that makes a lot of sense

[remote skiff]

hey lore chat i got bored last week and decided to use an alt to get a closer look at the crystals that grow on your avatar when you lose light. they really do look like the ones that grow naturally at prairie peaks.
#screenshots-and-videos message

[lyric imp]

True and quite well-known around here

[full ridge]

Since we're talking about blue crystals, has there ever been a debate about why our cape glows blue when it's being used?

[sharp lichen]

blue is sort of the abscence of light. For example, the darkstone crystals we light to open doors, they start off blue, but when we light them they become yellow

It's the same for spirits: they start off blue, but when we ascend them they become yellow

[crisp socket]

If dark water can be consumed by the spirits as some kind of addictive substance (reference slouching soldier), is it possible that the supposedly dark crystals in Prairie Peaks can also be addictive?
Is it the reason why Jolly Geologist dances when they see the motherload? Is this why they always carry around a pot of crystals? Could it be that Jolly Geologist is getting their "fix"?
Even more: the 2nd quest in the Moments line tells the player to photograph the "strange crystals". You know what else has strange crystals??? That are blue?????

METHAMPHETAMINE.
that's right,
METHAMPHETAMINE.

Case closed: Geologist is a junkie.

[mental snow]

Ok tell me if I’m crazy but, I see this symbol everywhere. Dose it mean anything?? Or and I looking into things that don’t mean anything

[bleak current]

You are watching too much breaking bad my brotha

[mental snow]

I saw in the concept art that blue means danger. Wouldn’t that relate to the power crystals that were mined for the new technology? Maybe they have powers, but ingested can have some dangerous effects

[crisp socket]

Blue doesn't mean danger, it just means the lack of light. Check the posts above, especially by Baudshaw.
The prairie peaks crystals are related to power crystals. A bit of a stretch, but you can reference aurora's 2nd music during her concert and see crystals not dissimilar to the ones in prairie peaks being mined.
For the last one, i'm not entirely sure, but I know that dark water seems to originate from dark material. Should act the same way for darkstone.

[native galleon]

I….huh?????

[crisp socket]

ping

[native galleon]

Oh no i saw it, I’m just extremely confused

i’m not going to give this much of a response, but what I will say is that if someone found a huge amount of something very valuable lying around, they just might get excited and do a little jig. Doesn’t mean it’s literally…that

Also I agree you might be watching too much breaking bad

[sharp lichen]

Moments Guide, we need to cook

But here's my serious response: To Slouching Soldier, darkness hurts them, but they still love it. It could be a reflection of the ancestor spirits' views of darkstone technology: harmful in the long run, but they still use it

[sharp lichen]

the eternal diamond, you're right. It appears absolutely everywhere, including most notably but also and .

it was probably a general symbol of all light

[crisp socket]

Los Pájaros nocturnos Hermanos location when?

[sharp lichen]

The "strange crystals" line is interesting, because it could imply that the Moments spirits really don't know much about how darkstone works

Perhaps it was an earlier, primitive form of the Vault's recording technology shown in the shared spaces and shared memories?

Now that I think of it, given that darkstone can create a current and have a binary coding (0 for unlit and 1 for lit), it could be thereotically possible to create a darkstone computer in Sky.

It's very unlikely TGC will do this, given the complexity in making such an item work and look fantasy-like, but it is very interesting to imagine the limits of Sky's science

[sharp lichen]

Moments Guide is Jesse
Ascetic Monk is Gus
Reassuring Ranger is Saul Goodman
Jolly Geologist is Walter
Nightbird Whisperer is... uhh... Walter Jr.?

[slim mango]

Ohhh, new concept art for days of sunlight!

[soft citrus]

Hi lore chat, I know the official lore is not complete, but I would like to know all the things we know about the official lore of sky, i'm trying to do my version of the sky lore for fun, and I don't really know the lore of sky that well

[arctic sphinx]

It's okay, at first you'll confused, just keep explore until your brain explode

[hushed steeple]

Do you mean the 1000 eyed beast (collosal black whale like being with a bunch of red eyes)?

Yeah, like polish said, it was part of the abyss questline. A lot of stuff happened dureing it, but long story short you end up defeating it after he shallows you and the cannonear.
All the fish that swim above it were once inside the beast, so now the beast has lost all the light it had to drain energy from and is now compleatly dorment

As for exactly what it is or how it come to be, well thats a mater of much debate and speculatuon.......mainly becouse the exact origins of krill a still a mater of fearce debate😅

What we know for curtainty is
-It had a simmilar origin to Krill
-the experimentation on light creatures is deffinetly conected to why its so different from normal kril
-Its creation (likely an accident) lead to the destruction of the island facility

[hushed steeple]

you think its kinda like redshift, like yellow/orange is radiating full light while blue is absorbing/depleating/week light

[sharp lichen]

This document can help: https://docs.google.com/document/d/12XSkaMV_5UYG-an_Qo37ItyKP6GaqBBA6iRqBVE2qck/edit

[hushed steeple]

You god (beep) right he is🤣

[hushed steeple]

And the fact that the king ended up apropriating that simbolism in his crown and all the statues is an interesting bit of visual storyteling

[lucid bridge]

Re: blue diamonds.
Based on the blue crystals we see in the 2nd Aurora song and in the Prairie, I think they are naturally occurring light-absorbing crystals. I believe there are natural “dark” or light-consuming things in the world of sky. If light creatures are part of the ecology, then there must be predators too.
But, I digress. The ancestors saw that the crystals absorb and store light like batteries store electricity, so they used them like batteries and eventually were able to make sophisticated enough technology to make crystals that absorbed specific light patterns and emitted them in particular ways (memory cubes in the vault). However the use of so much darkness caused an imbalance to the ecosystem, causing the downfall of the kingdom.

Re: ecology
Perhaps there isn’t a strong need for the predation of light creatures since they migrate to and come from the source (star in the solar system) as a natural part of their reproductive cycle, so perhaps there isn’t much need for population control? However there are creatures on the Sky planet who are not light creatures. Crabs, for instance, the ancestors (partially) and plants. There must be a balance of light and dark. It seems most “dark” creatures either live underground or underwater.

I also have a theory that mantas and fishes have a “dark” or stone component within them that is the reason why they cast a shadow.

[low grove]

probably one of the craziest theories on here

[low grove]

is it like a dark version of the giant light fish we see in the sanctuary islands, that place where one of the flight quests were and in the end of the game?

[hushed steeple]

I guess🤔
Would say more like a krill on steroids🤣🤣🤣

An elder dark dragon, much like the light fish in sanctuary is an elder manta

The answer to its creation would need to wait until the true origins of the krill are unlocked, as there is much that is descovered and agreed apon, but still more that debated, with many oposing theorys

[lucid bridge]

Maybe an out-there theory - most of the “grass” we see in sky is a creeping ground-cover plant and the strands we see are outstanding stems.

[hard geode]

@lyric imp That's so sad.

[hushed steeple]

Isnt that just normal grass😅

[lucid bridge]

I don’t know how grass works! I was thinking like moss or clover. 😅

[hushed steeple]

Not really
There kinda like micro bushes
The green part ar its leafs, while the main body and roots are underground
Some produce flowers, which are part of the same plant and not a seperate creature
Fun fact, reeds, bamboo, rice, weat and corn all belong to the grass family

[lucid bridge]

I guess it is just grass!

[low grove]

Oh yeah are there any names for the spirits? Or are they just nameless?

[hushed steeple]

All the spirits have titles (Ascetic Monk, Admiring Actor....) describing who they are, but non of them are given a proper name
Only characters ever given a proper name (kind of😅) are the Elders and King
Daleth (Isle)
Ayin ( Prierie)
Teth (Forest)
Samekh ( Valley)
Tsadi (Waistland)
Lamed (Voult)
Alef (Prince pre corruption)
Resh (Corrupted King)
These names are however not entirely canon, as they were found in official concept art from long long ago, but never stated in anything after
Still, the fandom has adopted these names for now since they dont have any other

[hushed steeple]

...

OOk i officially dont understand this chat anymore

[reef fulcrum]

Just remember: Time is an illusion, Space is four-dimensional, and we can move faster than either through both, but are still merely specs in the scope of universal infinity; and you'll be fine.

[low grove]

i've started naming the main animals in the game just for fun

[hushed steeple]

You did?
Tell me

Ps, do you know about this?

[lucid bridge]

I was wondering if butterflies were part of the Manta life cycle or if they were just their own thing like birds and fish

[low grove]

we got Gabriel

Timothy

Esther

and Eden so far

[hushed steeple]

Oooo, your naming individual creatures😅
I thought you were gonna name creature species/types

[low grove]

ja because they're very special ones, like Timothy

Timothy is the guide through the forest, he's a very special monowing

[hushed steeple]

Good old reliable Timothy😁

[low grove]

in Tim we trust

[lyric imp]

Where did you find this? Is it fanart?

[hushed steeple]

Old consept art

[lyric imp]

'O'

[hushed steeple]

I was in the google drive I posed a while back with all the concept art I gathered
You guys did see that, right?

[lyric imp]

Well i did not before

[lyric imp]

Nice

[hushed steeple]

Thats not even getting into the REALLY old stuff, from when the world of sky was but mist in the mind

Or of the kind of magitech transportation that was sadly removed from the history of sky😭

Maby they removed it becouse it looked way to similar to the ships in Atlantis

[hushed steeple]

And thats not even counting the dark side😅

[low grove]

is it just me or do the sky creatures all look like they're from the see? the mantas look like sting rays, idk about butterflies, krills are from the sea, the giant fish are from the sea, there's platypus now from the sea

[low grove]

oo imagine there's a season where spirits from the future arrive on these giant ships and teach us how to build one that we can ride around

[hushed steeple]

[low grove]

mega coollll

[hushed steeple]

It was a very deliberate design choice that most sky creatures would be based on aquatic creatures for there elegance
Birds are the other basis of course, though in the earlyest stages that was not the case

Dark creaures by contrast would all be crustation based, hard pointy and ridged to contrast with the soft, flexible forms of the light beings

[low grove]

oh yeahhh that is so cool

[obtuse tapir]

THERES NO WAY THATS OLD CONCEPT ART

[obtuse tapir]

[hushed steeple]

Well its not
Its REALLY old concept art

[obtuse tapir]

Dang but the last image peeked my interest the most

[hushed steeple]

yeah, that one is newer then all the other peaces, but looking at the desing of the sky kid its still preaty anchant

[hushed steeple]

Here is some more anchant dark creature concept art

[low grove]

if there were spiders in sky i would actually cry, like imagine you're burning some wax in a fallen temple and you hear pitter patter and a red light shines down on you because a spider crawled on the ceiling and is about to drop down on you- no

[obtuse tapir]

Is that the "teeth krill" i saw in the iceberg

[hushed steeple]

While this is some OLD darj creature art

[hushed steeple]

Yup
Good luck sleeping tonight🤣

Obviacely most of this isnt in the game for technicle reasons
It was way too complex and grand in scale the mobile game that TGS could realisticly do

Still, most of the new season material is just retooling and repurposing cut content from the game into something they can do now with more time and resorces, so it might be possible they could use some of there designs in the future

That art book better have the obscure stuff too! All of this and more! I WANT CORAL PRINCE IN THAT ARTBOOK AND THE "mental space" OR WHATEVER ROOFTOP CITY.

AND THE LYNX STATUE

If thats what it is

[hushed steeple]

TGS, do exactly this or we riat
also, coral prince?

I don't know if I got him. But hes a prince concept art who has a hat that looks like coral, and hes drinking some water

[obtuse tapir]

I just noticed the censor in "blind"

[hushed steeple]

Lynx statue?
you mean this?

Yeah. Kinda? There was a statue in vault that vaguely resembles Teth Lynx

[obtuse tapir]

There was a what in vault?

[hushed steeple]

I do have coral prince hes in my king comp

[hushed steeple]

THERE WAS!!!!
Like from "Light Awates" or?

I think so. I know its in one of the archives of this chat, if they didn't change it. Its the same one that covers "moonglyphs"

[hushed steeple]

Oh yeah, I rememember now
Thats the only peace of concept art from this collage I dont have

Ok yes, its archived in the light awaits tour images for vault

The fact that its where "rainy aunt" meaning Teth, whos concept boss was the lynx, fits pretty well.

[hushed steeple]

Can you pleese send me a link to the site where you got this
PLEEEESE

The link is already pinned!

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[hushed steeple]

Oh wow, thanks so much😍😍😍

Also, about the whole Lynx thing
In the oldest cersion of the story, the thing that would eventually become the elders were instead great animals

I um.....kinda...uh....

Made fan art of that

Looking at the names, and comparing some of the features to the older versions of the elders, its possible for some to guess which is which

The coolest and most obviace is deffinetly Forest mama

[hushed steeple]

😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

For Valley and Vault they didn't really have exact matches.....so...

I made some up.

I didn't want to give them the monkey or spider :/

[obtuse tapir]

Looking at the Isle link, I did not think those were also the "shadow kids on beach" i saw on the iceberg too

[hushed steeple]

Well the spider is deffinetly Tsadi (waisland elder)
Sorry😅

[hushed steeple]

I know 😭 but hes also the bull thing right? So I incorporated some spideryness into his mask with the multiple eyes.....

And stay far far away from the horrible arms everywhere.

A mix of the "stone lion" the "bull with the grab horns on its back" and the "horrible arm spider with a bike stuck in it"

[low grove]

🫣

[hushed steeple]

I supoas so
The lion is probably the best alternative, since he also has that patern with his main as the spider and arm thing

See? These two arn't so bad. Its just when it becomes horrible flesh with arms.....

The volture is a bit confusing to me though
I know it says he starts you on your journey, yet the oiginal voult elder was also very bird like

Prolly split right? There was some notes about passing a place in valley with some destroyed statues pointing to more elders. So....they probably didn't know how many they wanted to start with.

[hushed steeple]

you are probably right☺️

I would totally take most of these anim-elders faces as masks too. Instead of just you know....

Temple doorway decoration.

Lets face it, this is some of the oldest possible concept art out there
Were analizing the equivelent of cley fragmanted tablets here🤣🤣
The story could have changed 10 times over by the time the elders become human

[hushed steeple]

Oh, you noticed that too😁

[hushed steeple]

you know if there are more of these in the curent game?

And a little on prairie too. But this one is much easier to tell.

[crisp socket]

i noticed that the prairie temple doorway decoration actually is a picture of megabird

[hushed steeple]

I forgot prairie elders name name. But its the version that looks like a skull

Thats the one that looks like its on the temple.

wouldent exactly call it megabird, but it is birds

[hushed steeple]

Lower. In gold lines I think?

[crisp socket]

yes

[hushed steeple]

oh yeah😅

You know I always asumed that Priery was the bull, since the whale was called Teth's friend

Well, would love to talk more, but I really need to go to sleep😅

[low grove]

nighttt

[hushed steeple]

And Kamilico, is it ok if we can traid each others Concept art collections tomorrow
I got a fealing that we each might have some stuff the other doesnt have

[hushed steeple]

Sure deal, just summon my name here. But most of what I got is pretty much just from livestreams and things pinned here.

Ok...maybe a few rare things

[nimble ingot]

Woah.
Is this concept art, or fanart. That is cool

viksa's draw8ngs are very interesting. I wanna look these artworks up.
I know this was from an artist whose concept art was not as easy to dig up as the others.

[obtuse tapir]

I believe it's old concept art, probably OLD old.

[hushed steeple]

Its fanart!

[obtuse tapir]

Oh mb

[grim horizon]

hello folks
did forest ever used to have ppl living there despite the rain? if the rain was not polluted as it is today in game?
like were there homes n such

[cold sparrow]

we see a number of spirits of ancestors that used to live there
and there are a good number of homes around the forest - tree houses and other homely areas

it may be that the rain in forest hasn't always been this painful to light creatures
or maybe it hurts skykids more than ancestors
but forest seems to be one of the more denser populated areas, actually
at least in regards to spirits we can meet

[sharp lichen]

We see Forest without rain in the Sky Animation Project

I really think that Forest used to be a normal temperate rainforest, and the permanent state of rain we see now was artificial and unhelpful

After all, in the Season of Prophecy murals, we see the Forest Elder using Blue Light to create rain. Also, in Days of Bloom 2023, but that one was temporary

[grim horizon]

@sharp lichen Someone mentioned how teth created the rain but darkstone mining caused it to become polluted i think??
Can u also plez send me the concept art of forest when it wasnt raining if u have it on u

[mental snow]

I tried to get some good photos of the elder statues. You can kinda see the dark king???

I noticed their smaller than the other elders and their throne is less detailed than the other ones. So maybe he made the dark king statues in the wasteland to apear taller? Like a little guy on giant stilts.

[sharp lichen]

it seems that today is King Day

[mental snow]

King day!!!

Found some more king things

[sharp lichen]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

This document has it compiled

[mental snow]

Also, why is the king sailing on a boat to the mega bird?

[sharp lichen]

I think the boat is a representation of the Ancestor Spirit's achievements. After all, they can fly and swim like a light creature

[lyric imp]

Viksa Kamilico what have you done
Now i feel extreme nostalgia for what sky could have been

It's sad bc i realise those are amazing ideas that devs partially didn't have resources to make into reality. The current end product is great, but this world is so easy to tame, and honestly, having played for long enough it looks quite small

Idk, i just kinda wish we got to explore this journey-esque sky bersion from forst drafts, with its immense scale and animism-realted themes, elder-related creatures to interact with and monsters to evade...
Even though i know all of ot would become small as we'd learn all about it. I miss it a bit nonetheless

I miss sky being about the experience and the story

[sharp lichen]

We will all feel this, eventually. It is a loss of that childhood wonder you had when first playing Sky. The game presents the impossible yet still achievable option of playing like a child forever. The only barrier is if you let go of your childhood, or keep it in you.

"What Sky could've been" is a foolish endeavor. This is what Sky could've been. Worrying about a past that never happened is something one should leave behind entirely. Instead, one should worry for a future that they see happening, and hope to change it.

[lyric imp]

This is still doable. Brobably both of us are prime examples of how you can always find something new to do. I just sometimes feels more like desperately clinging to wonder than being immersed in it. It's quite natural, since wonder most often comes from novelty, that, which doesn't fit in our perception. We'll always run out of novelty in practically finite spaces. Some games avoid it thanks to engaged fanbase and the possibility of modding, but that doesn't apply to sky. Perhaos that is also why the real world is stil better. You just can't run out of the things to do, no matter how hard you try, in my experience

[lyric imp]

Lovey general statement. In case of sky specifically, our influence is quite limited, though

[hushed steeple]

Only the concept art is mine
The drawing of the 6 elder beasts is by the super talented @hushed steeple

[hushed steeple]

Its those rear ones that I am looking for
I have everything from the "7 days of sky" and "TOM ZHAO", as well as a few others, but I know there is yet more to find
Just looking at what I got, there are some obviace gaps that have to be there somewhere

If you can get all the rear pics or sorces I will send you my entire collection
With all the pics organised by type for easyer serch

[hushed steeple]

NOW YOU UNDERSTAND OUR PAIN

[nimble ingot]

touching on what Polish wrote.

An enemy in Sky we have to avoid like the Dark Dragons would be amazing.

Eventhough the game is limited, it would be cool to see what other creatures there could have been.
Especially with creatures we get to come into contact with instead of them being stuck behind a wind wall and we only get to 'admire' from a distance (am talking about the whale, the elder manta, and elder abyss monster)

Imagine we go through a season's quests to unlock a creature that just chills in the area and skykids can mess with it for a few minutes a day.
Take the elder manta in sancturary as an example. Instead of just leaping out of the water far beyond the windwall all the time. How cool would it be for 10 min ever so often, the animal decides to cruise closer to the island and skykids get to play with the elder manta for that time.
There doesn't have to be a wax event or anything special to this. Just a moment to properly enjoy interacting with the creatures in the game.

Don't get me wrong, the game does a lot for players to interact with the environment.
But the small moments like these may make the world feel more alive, or feel distant when lacking these moments.

The turtle has been a hit so far, why not the other animals? (look at the elder bird).

TLDR; this is partly a rant, a exploration on interacting with the world, and a brief lore dive into animals and skykids.

[hushed steeple]

oaofh you dont know how much i hate not being able to talk about beta in here 😭

[nimble ingot]

I know what you are on about, but we can dm each other about it, if you like to.

[hushed steeple]

yes yes yes

Does anyone else notice that
The bird creatures in sky
Like in piarie , forest , valley and at last in eden
They all flying in a same direction, just like - when they migrate from one place to another
But why they all going straight??
Even in orbit they still flying in straight direction??
But where ??
What do you all think about this ?
And it's all started with isle elder ( the first scenes)

[nimble ingot]

It may be a game thing with the path of the birds. But them flying towards Eden may have to do with the cycle of Light.

Where creatures are called towards the top of Eden.
Perhaps it is their goal in life? To migrate to Eden so that they can ascend to Orbit?
To complete their journey in life so that they can be reborn?

Similar to skykids returning stronger than what they were before they ascended, maybe some light creatures get to return as a more powerful version.
This could explain how we have larger and stronger varieties of light creatures.
They have to gather more light to ascend and return stronger, which may imply that the larger version are more rare.

[nimble ingot]

Daleth (Ilse elder) is a guide for the birds.
They difect them with their staff.

In older version of Sky, it is shown that the elder is also responsible for boats. Making them a ferry man.

[hushed steeple]

I seeee
Is their any lore in here ?
Which explains me why birds migrating and not staying at all ?

[nimble ingot]

There seems to have been hints at larger birds in Sky.
Looking at season of Flight, we see larger birds that are otherwise not present in Sky.

Which is unfortunate seeing we even had an elder bird in season of Rhythm, that has not returned since that season ended 3 years ago 💀

Birds in Sky are seemingly a dying species seeing we only see smaller versions in the game (implying they either dont get enough light to return as larger variants, or too many of them are killed to ascend).
That or, the game lacks birds beacause the devs have not expanded on them for a long time.

Similar to how the shards were introduced and retroactively added as part of the lore from the start. It is possible if and when the devs add in birds to the game, we would have more to say about birds in the lore.

At least we have a night bird in the game.

[hushed steeple]

Funny you should mention this
There was an idea I was really hoping for season of Moments

THE SKY STAG

Imagine a scenario where you have this elusive creature running abound a particular area.
Its usually distant, not something you can interact with most of the time, but at curtain periods in the day, after you have fullfilled curtain requirements, you can interact with it closely.

Once this is over, the dear runs off quickly in one of a few preplaned directions
You might try to chase after it, but it eventually jumps into the cloud, and you loose it😅

I was so hoping for a sky stag to apear in the later quests for Moments, but night bird is preaty cool too I guess☺️

[nimble ingot]

you were not the only one hoping of that lol.

And agreed, a stag like that would have been amazing.

[hushed steeple]

The idea could still work for another season.
A distant land where the (presumably) last of the sky stags still lives.
It could be extreamly elusive at first, but over time it gets a bit more comfortable with these "new creatures", but only a bit

Maby it could also work like the legendery beasts from pokemon, where there is a random chance to encounter it in curtain locations around the world

Imagine being able to encounter it for breaf moments in butterfly filds in prierty, or village of dreams in valley
The timeing could work similar to grandma/shatering/sunset rulles🤔

[abstract finch]

what exactly are the sky stag's? I didn't know they existed until now!

[cold sparrow]

because they don't
there are no stags in the game at the moment, aside from some masks and headgear resembling them

[nimble ingot]

Sky Stags were a concept (idea) in early development of the game.

The only evidence of the stag in the game (that I know of) is the above image posted by Viksa.
This model is by TGC, while the art was done by an artist working for the company (am looking for the name still).

Granted, it was early development (possibly before Light Awaits beta became public).
But it is still arguable for the creature to be part of the lore (at least fan lore, or theoretical lore).

[hushed steeple]

Oh it is deffinetly old. This is preaty much prehistoric content.
The concept art is from the earlyest version of the lore, while the game model is from the very first testing of the game engin
The term sky stag is something comleatly made for the post, its not real in any way

I apologise to everyone for accidentaly spreading missinformation and false hope

[nimble ingot]

You dont have to apologise

More than half of the creatures in the game do not have official names from TGC, hence why folks often use nicknames.

Sky stag is just one example of many, sadly.

The Image I referenced is from a livestream where the devs were testing how detailed they could make a level.
Last I recall, the slide explained the limitation in the game engine lead the devs to be conservative with details they could add into a level.
Partly so that it can run as well as it can on mobile devices, and do so in such a way that it plays into the style of the game.

Which is an interesting challenge they managed to get to work well.

Here in lore chat. It is important to know that:
1 - The lore of sky is open to interpretation.
2 - Canon lore in the game/Sky in general is not common, sadly. While fanon and theory about it is plentiful. Hence the headcanons.
3 - Concept art is an idea put into visual art that may, or may not, resemble the final product. It is rare to have concept art that matches the final result. The point is (in my opinion) is not to compare the art to the game directly. But to understand where TGC was heading with the idea.

You are ok and it is fun hearing people's theories and ideas about the lore.

[hushed steeple]

Oooo, thanks dude. Apreciate it☺️
And you are totally right about this whole thing

still, this is just me, but I have a habbit of takeing some of the concept art ideas to expand the world and history of sky

The one personal unbreacable rule I have is that it must not contradict anything seen within the curent version and understanding of the game.

[hushed steeple]

I deffinetly think that this is the case
The cycle of light in a way how evolution works within the world of sky (though obviacely only in analogy and not litterally😅 )
This is why I strongly belive that the giant light creatures like the whales and the elder manta, as whele as compleatly unique creatures like the turtle or possily the night bird and others are actually survivors of the great desasted, and thats why they are so rear.
They were likely way more comman when the old kingdom was at its peak, with likely manny other elder and comman light creatures

In the current age you have something of a bottleneck, with mantas, jellufish and comman bird being the exclusive type of light creature out of the sea

This is of course just a thought experimant, so dont hold me to this😅

[low grove]

oh my gosh, imagine this as a season:
one day you're out on a candle run, and suddenly you see a stag in the distance, watching you. you go up to it and it runs away. and the whole season is you befriending the stag

i think that would be really cute

[hushed steeple]

I also drew a dude based off that. Two dudes.

I LOVE IT😍
NOW GIVE ME DRAWING

For the second one It was like "what if you could only see it way off in the distance like a secret?"

All these things, are like a mix of several different concept arts. Theres a smooth papery looking creature somewhere the cloudeer is mostly based on.

😍😍😍😍😍

Do you have the "hotdating" 3d prototype images?

Don't worry it has nothing to do with its name. It just has that text at the top of some of the images.

[hushed steeple]

Yeah, I have that one☺️
Like I said, I all the the "7days of sky" and TOM ZHAO have to offer

Do you have something...even rearer per chance?

I'll just post my entire lore album and let you look.

😍😍😍😍

May contain fanart and kirby

I also have about...3 things I can't actually post here.

[hushed steeple]

Why😅 ?

well, never mind
A deal is a deal☺️

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1U9lRjFAhTiDb6O-7GTuWcAdEepN5GkgF?usp=drive_link

Oh dang your all organized

[hushed steeple]

Not organised enough Im afraid😅
Still, I was hoping on gathering more concept art before doing true version

Oo most stuff in other I haven't seen

O and concept performance is my favorite season ever

[nimble ingot]

sun and moon mask 0.0

[soft timber]

I love how the Gato the Cato Frantic Stagehand still looks like a little panicky boyo

[nimble ingot]

Light... too... HEAVY.... XD

[inland cliff]

you can tell they went through a huge color scheme change, with only Frantic handshake stays pretty much the same

[earnest briar]

OOGH they are the genderest to ever gender, I love Performance's stuff but I so badly want these in Sky too

[hushed steeple]

omggg from when is thissss

[sturdy onyx]

Wow

[nimble ingot]

https://asavt.tumblr.com/post/704086117798084608

[hushed steeple]

hmmmm

you kmow what

I

QUIT

have a nice lore life :3🫡

-artur

[nimble ingot]

huh?

[rich plank]

Why do the little prince spirit have chains?

[nimble ingot]

They may be hypothetically be a reference to a book, A Christmas Carol.
where there is a spirit there who was chained with material objects they owned in life.

Perhaps in this case, these spirits have flaws/vices that bind them to the realm.

For instance, the cowardly soldier's drinking habit might be their vice. Their cowardous lead to them drinking dark water, wanting to forget the shame they have.

[rich plank]

[nocturne raft]

Can anyone tell me the lore about the turtle spirit from Sky Light Awaits?

Wai- is this 2017-2019 beta game lore and official game (Light awaits and Cotl) lore or just official game lore (Cotl)?

[obtuse tapir]

It can be anything

[sharp lichen]

It’s everything

[obtuse tapir]

Anything and everything

[hushed steeple]

There was a pattern on the ground that acted as a spirit. You activated and had to collect the pieces to free the spirit. Once you got them all the animal would appear and fly off and I think give you a candle? One was a turtle. One was a sparrow (the same sparrow dead in valley citadel) I know theres video or images of both.....somewhere....but honestly, they both looked very plain.

[nimble ingot]

There was also an eel spirit in the caves ☝️

[nimble ingot]

They can be seen as separate canons seeing the children of the Light version does differ from what the Light Awaits version was like.

Most noteably, Light Awaits seemed to have planned for the King to be added, while Children of the Light's King "cannot be saved anymore"

[proper granite]

Yeah! Listen your source was wrong

The correct name for the instrument is

Iya ilu GanGan

Which means mother of drum

It is a talking drum cause it is played to replace of a voice in a music

[hushed steeple]

how did golden wasteland get invaded by dark dragons

[dull seal]

I hate to burst your bubble but that's just Vault Elder's statue, that structure is just a GIANT replica of Vault's summit!

[lucid bridge]

It’s implied that falling shards of the red eden crystal corrupted the mantas and made them dark dragons

Similar to how the crabs were initially nonagressive but became aggressive once corrupted by dark material (the same stuff you see flaking off of the dark dragons)

[sharp lichen]

Ooh, thanks for the information!

[sharp lichen]

Ooh, thanks for the information!

[nimble ingot]

Baud be lagging. 0.0

[low grove]

i like the crabs we free from the crab eater pleaful parent

[lucid bridge]

Me too

[obtuse tapir]

The WHAT

[cold sparrow]

the pleaful parent is just cooking the darkness out of their beloved crab children

[nimble ingot]

Ancestors have to eat some time.
And not all of them may be content with a diet without meat.

[cold sparrow]

fair, but I genuinely don't consider the pleaful parent to be eating the crabs
they seem to be wanting to help the crabs

[nimble ingot]

I digress given the fellow was chasing down these four legged cretins for half of the graveyard.
Suppose they were pleading for their lunch to not scuttle away.

[cold sparrow]

and that's why they're called Pleaful Parent and not Starving Cook

I mean, consider this: Pleaful Parent is not shown to have any weapons or traps, no nets, whatsoever
they seem awfully ill-equipped to be any sort of hunter
and personally, I'd be more likely to chase my beloved runaway pets through a desolate wasteland than try to just run after my potential next meal

[cold sparrow]

yeah! does this look like someone catching crabs for eating?

[nimble ingot]

Just sharing an old drawing dug up from this lore chat.

[obtuse tapir]

Thats so adorable

[nimble ingot]

Mild critic.
Pleadful parent is one of the most tedious npc escort missions in Sky (if not gaming generally)

[obtuse tapir]

Ill be honest i avoided it for some time after discovoring the spirit until it was a daily and i just risked it for the win

[nimble ingot]

One time I was doing it, the krill were not playing nice.
Best use of the krill spray spells (used 5 of them at least).

Was not in the mood to play peek a boo with krill with a spirit with separation anxiety.

[low grove]

well when u say it like that i feel bad for hating him lmaooo

[low grove]

frrr like the points are so far apart it's crazy, worst spirit to retrieve by far for me

[nimble ingot]

Imagine this.

There was a once point in Light Awaits where skykids used to shepherd spirit memories through eden, not winged light.
Meaning, they used to collect the memories and sacrifice those in Eden.

Thankfully, this was changed with the introduction of Winged Light.
Makes one think and be grateful for collecting winged light instead.

[low grove]

what the flip-

[quiet horizon]

That guy definitely looks like he’s despairing his lost crab dinner. I gotta b honest with you

[lusty merlin]

Hey that’s intersting but no talk of the next season can be outside beta channels, please remove this

[potent basalt]

Oh sorry thought spoilers were allowed oki

[nimble ingot]

oh.
first, be careful not to talk about beta content here (it is strictly off limits until it is officially announced or released to live.

Second, based on trailers, the new aviary would surely have references to all the realms,

[lusty merlin]

The channel refers to spoilers in the live game mainly, not beta

[quiet horizon]

Maybe just use spoiler option to dark it out?

[cold sparrow]

beta content not allowed outside of beta channels, even with spoiler tags

[nimble ingot]

The image itself is in live, that should be fine.

[potent basalt]

Ye it’s beta I forgot I just got excited whoops, it was an aha! Moment for me

[potent basalt]

I mean it isssss

[nimble ingot]

The mural pictured is an old asset to the former introduction cutscene in the game.

[potent basalt]

And it’s found on the back of the far island at home , that’s blocked by a wind wall , in live

[nimble ingot]

it is, yes.

It is considered out of bounds since players are not intended to see this in normal gameplay.

[potent basalt]

In a way it was foretold lol

[quiet horizon]

Does anyone have like a google folder of all the cave art we currently have access to?

[lusty merlin]

There’s Salems mural list https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FQgj2Ii1A9p1kSly9rehvZU-fPsKtGazuEGvE3Od-Bg

[crisp socket]

Has anyone picked up relations between spirits yet? I noticed that ushering stargazer is somewhat related to pointing candlemaker, who might be the son of bereft veteran? also, Ushering Stargazer seems to be friends with Rejecting Voyager

[sharp lichen]

which is funny, because said 'spoilers' have been lifted elsewhere

[native galleon]

bereft veteran’s son died in the war, presumably in Wasteland so I’m pretty confident it’s not them

[crisp socket]

still, we see spirit-spirit interactions
I wonder how they would connect to each other and expose some more lore upon the game? or maybe it's just limited to IoD?

[soft timber]

Can't wait for Sky to come to pc

[native galleon]

Happened upon this redesign, and apparently it’s not a bug, so let’s talk about it

1. The hair??? Hello??
2. The helmet definitely looks like some kind of Greek-inspired armor, both distinctly different in style from the Wasteland ones, and also kinda diamond-shaped

I mean maybe I’m biased, but like. Look at it. I wonder if we’ll see something similar in the show?

[lusty merlin]

We have the obvious, rhythm and performance being twins, valley elders being twins, you could also look at the days of events like fortune with enchantment and graditude and a lot more and work out there is connections there

[lusty merlin]

They did them so dirty, it’s like the helmet model was just pasted on there

[soft timber]

Come on, TGC, we need more twins lol

[native galleon]

Pls and the hair looks like its barely even attached to their head 💀 I see what they were going for tho

[native galleon]

handstand also used to be one of those spirits that looked like they might be a twin (they still are to me even with the redesign)

[slim mango]

I think due to same hairstyles 🤔

[hushed steeple]

Wait, why cant I see any of the murals?

[tropic zodiac]

Can you upload these to a doc and share it with us ?

[lusty merlin]

Maybe refresh idk, they’re there for me

[hushed steeple]

I uhhh....don't actually know how

And don't want to make a google account :/

[hushed steeple]

Ok, it works now☺️

Hmmmmm.....
I wonder if I can do my own version, since I already made all photos🤔

But its gonna be so much work doing that, and I'll be so busy this week😅
Plus I'll have to re-take some of the photos with the camera

[hushed steeple]

I can do it for you if you want
Just send me all the photos, I'll make my own goodle doc, and then I can share the link with you so you can write what you want in the document☺️

[hushed steeple]

Ah, you could? I can't send them right now, but I would probably be pickier about it anyways. Most of what I kept is cherry picked favorites and compilations.

[drifting heath]

How come I can’t go visit the memorial in starlight desert on my other alt acc

[nimble ingot]

#questions-and-help
Best ask on there for questions like these.

Did the alt account do some Season of the Little Prince's quests?
If not, then that may be it.

[drifting heath]

Oh that makes sense I finished season of little prince on my main acc but not on my alts my assumption is that you have to have that one little prince task that’s located at the bonfire in starlight desert before you can visit the memorial

[obtuse tapir]

Wait theres a what

OH so that area!!! I cant fidn it

[nimble ingot]

It is a bit out of the way, sadly.

Simply head to the place where the Little Prince and the well scene was. Then, head to the left and you will find it somewhere there.

[obtuse tapir]

Well?

Ohhhh is it the windy area???
If so then tysm

[inland cliff]

a small theory that pleadful parent might’ve gifted sparkling parent and Wise grandparent crabs as well, whether as food supply or pets , idk

[nimble ingot]

After that spot, generally when the wind stops, you are close.

[nimble ingot]

Imagine being the one to bring the 'the turkey' to the big family dinner.

[inland cliff]

i mean- they do have a fireplace at the back
also idk if roasted crab and grandmas bread (mochi,potatoes??) can be anyone’s appetite

wonder what the others will bring into the table

[grim horizon]

was spinning mentor always spinning mentor
cuz i heard they werent always a skater b4 they helped young skater girl to perform in coliseum

[hushed steeple]

Im kinda assuming they went there own journey to become a great scater, and then many many years later they find a girld with a simmilar passion and drive, and so decide to teach her everything they know

Also, correct me if Im compleatly wrong about this, but I alsways got the fealing that the mentor was getting old and no longer in there skating prime, which is why they train the much younger scater

[nimble ingot]

I like to think the spinning spirit used to compete in the colliseum.
They either retired or had an accident that made them stop competing. But that did not stop them from helping the skater girl in their journey.

[grim horizon]

to me they seem in good health

[hushed steeple]

My thoughts exactly
They preary much meat when the mentor slips on the ice after a simple move, and the scater has to help them

[grim horizon]

WAIT MENTOR SLIPPED ON THE ICE?

[sharp lichen]

I mean, some spirits have suffered worse (proud victor )

[nimble ingot]

an injury that stops an athlete from competing may not necessarily be an issue in every day living.
Besides, I did say that is what I think, not what it may be.

[nimble ingot]

In the memory, if I am not mistaken.

[grim horizon]

in the very first one near the ice rink? right?

[hushed steeple]

Wether becouse of an injury or just getting on in years, I think it kinda make thematic sence seing there interactions that the mentor has there best scating days behind them
While also seing in this young girl the potential to surpass them if given the proper guidence

[nimble ingot]

Either the quest with the skater and the mentor, or the mentor's memory.

Though I may be mistaken, although wiksa's comment does sound familiar.

[grim horizon]

when i get to playing later i'll defo check mentor's memory

[hushed steeple]

Admitadly I went to check in my photo collection and I didnt find that moment

Its possible I forgot to catalogue it, but now Im kinda afraind I might accidentaly Mandela effect the scene😅😅😅

Im curtain I remember the mentor falling and the girl helping them, but until I get a chance to test this tomorrow take all of this with a grain of salt😅😅😅

[nimble ingot]

Imma go check.
If I am wrong, I'll say so here.

[nimble ingot]

ok, it was the memory, not the quest

Here.

The memory may not show the spirit slipping on ice. But it does certainly show the spirit with back issues.

They got up and walked in a hunched manor away from the skater who from what I saw, was walking up to the spirit and supposedly asking for help.
The skater tried skating, slipped and the spirit was coaching from the side.
The memory ends with the spirit doing a spin that the skater eventually learns to copy themselves.

What makes this sweet is the move was the same one the skater finished their performance with. Making it a special one the skater and the mentor loved.

[grim horizon]

WAIT THIS IS SO SWEET AWW thanks for the help

[nimble ingot]

At your service, lol

[brisk badge]

Is the corrupted King canon or is it a scrapped concept? (Is there even a king or was that scrapped too???)

[nimble ingot]

in idea, canon based on murals of them (or what remains of them).
In name, it is implied given it is a Kingdom, and that would mean a KING.

In person, sadly that was scrapped.

[sharp lichen]

The name King isn’t used, but others have taken on similar concepts, like the “Eden Elder”

[nimble ingot]

There were plans for the King to be in Eden, as it seems in concept art.
Where skykids were once considered to make their way to the summit to save the King (who turns out that the skykids get saved by the Sky Prince in another concept art).

It is important to note that concept art are merely visual ideas of the game during development. Not the final product.

Which in turns leaves us skykids speculating on what could, and what might not be possible in the lore of Sky.
Not to mention the lore being open to interpretation.

[brisk badge]

Yeah

Honestly I would have liked there to have been a king (like a final boss sort of thing)

Even tho a red crystal does seem quite intimidating, I feel like trying to dodge a big scary King would have been a lot more impactful

Also, is Eden a sort of throne room? Like, before it got infected

[nimble ingot]

The concept art for Eden's final part (that I know of) was of the King fighting a massive creature in the stormy clouds.
The beta for this in Light Awaits, sadly never got to show this in full (again, that I know of).

Eden was one of the realms that had been changed a lot when compared to the concept art for it seen online.

[brisk badge]

Sheeesh
Man you guys know a lot :0
I feel like a little moth being in history class with a bunch of veterans lol

[nimble ingot]

lol, and I feel like a salty vet who tells the stories of Sky to moths.

[brisk badge]

Do the Elders have any lore?

[nimble ingot]

They do

[sharp lichen]

The current incarnation of the King is a representation of Sky’s past mistakes. Thus, they have been completely destroyed by darkness