lore-discussion-spoilers

[sharp lichen]

Just a community shepherd, nothing big

[hushed steeple]

☺️☺️☺️

[cursive trellis]

🐰🤍

[calm gull]

Is there there any sort of document or video for a all of the murals and or time line for every thing I'm curious about it all but not sure were to start

[keen shore]

Here’s a mural masterlist! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FQgj2Ii1A9p1kSly9rehvZU-fPsKtGazuEGvE3Od-Bg

We don’t have a confirmed timeline yet, but there are theories if you’d like to hear them.

[calm gull]

Thanks and yes

[marble lynx]

He's the art director, the boss of TGC

Yes, he has high position

[primal grove]

any ideas of what eden was before it was, yanno, destroyed? It evidently wasnt always a wreck because there are numerous big structures. Each realm kindof has its purpose in the lore

[marble lynx]

Eden is probably a capital city with a beautiful castle, it was destroyed because of the giant red Eden diamond

[untold notch]

i think it was a realm similar to wasteland, considering all the pipes around

[sharp lichen]

We see a glimpse of it in the Switch Trailer, it seems to be a barren mountain at least in the very early days, maybe it became more developed as the years went on

[primal grove]

awesome I like that idea

[primal grove]

Any ideas on how the eden diamond got there? Was it always there and being used, or rather is inherently spewing darkness and appeared somehow

[marble lynx]

My hc is the king asked the spirits to collect all darkstones in the realms and transport them to Eden by boat, spirits bulid them in Eden

Or a small normal darkstone soaked in the concentrated enlarge potion in Eden?

[primal grove]

The potion 😂😂 Honestly its a possibility

[crisp socket]

i noticed: the shared space shrines and the main elevator crystal in vault are the same

coincidence?

[sharp lichen]

I think not

They’re most definitely related, if not connected

[hushed steeple]

Hi!
You know how I’ve been gone for
A WHILE!!!!
Well there was a reason for that!
But I don’t think I should get into that here so let’s cut to the chase shall we!

Who thinks I should/or wants me to come back to lore chat?

[ember temple]

Me!!!

[untold notch]

im ngl i don't remember who you are!

[pastel brook]

I'm proud of you for getting enough sneep snorp, @hushed steeple

[hushed steeple]

My entire entry speech was just deleted so give me a minute to take this in a start again on a Google doc or something.

I WILL BE BACK

[sharp lichen]

It's not like there's anything stopping you, the only barrier is your own interest in Sky lore (and sometimes other stuff)

[hushed steeple]

Oh, I wish

[tall valve]

To add to that, in tgc official yt channel, he’s in the creative director department now. Video on the developer update (sorry for the ping)

[untold notch]

((THAT WAS A JOKE I KNOW WHO JENOVA IS))
(pings are fine! i prefer them honestly but i know other's dont)

[tall valve]

Joke flew over my head

[sharp lichen]

they're listed as among the first names in Sky's credits

[tall valve]

I always thought he is a joke 👀😂 ||also me not reading credit well or forgot||

[hushed steeple]

Here we go!
I do suggest EVERYONE read this as it is quite important!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-3Wfo5oSyHO8pG24t4T5veLrPJIdMGQCDHg6hsvm9N4/edit

[sharp lichen]

access denied 😭

[hushed steeple]

Oh no, let me fix that

[hushed steeple]

Should be all good now!

[hushed steeple]

This is quite funny since I would always say that I’ve just been asleep for a really long time!!!

[sharp lichen]

Although I agree with most things in the document, there are some things I have concern with:

-An example of a long-standing glitch that is never fixed is chibi fall and piggyback, as well as the rainbow bridge. TGC has presumably known about it, yet they haven't fixed it.

-I know you have your disdain for the Sky map, but it is still not too inaccurate given the limitation of having to fit everything in a diamond shape.

-Most headcanons (not all of them) belong here, since headcanons and theories are related even if they are not completely the same

[hushed steeple]

Ah, I understand!
Now about the glitches, those have purposefully been left in because TGC knows the community would(and has)gotten upset at those as a big part of the community is oobs!
And I will let the sky map go…
For now

[sharp lichen]

i've also heard they tried to patch them before, but failed

[hushed steeple]

Oh, really?
I heard that the rainbow bridge was patched at one point, although I could be wrong! Same with piggy back.
Though I suppose we should remain with an open mind about these things until we get further confirmation!

[sharp lichen]

I believe they also tried to fix the wedge spirit glitch, but they couldn't because technical wise, spirits appear to be skykids with different models and textures, and 0 wedge capes are impossible

[hushed steeple]

Oh! That’s interesting! I never heard about that.
Though I still don’t understand why grandma and sanctuary guide have more wedges!
I might try looking into that later. But I’ll edit the document once I finish dishes.

[untold notch]

a glitch's life is never guaranteed

[hushed steeple]

BUT WE CAN GRASP AT THEN AND SHOUT OUR COMPLAINTS AT THE DEVS TO MAKE SURE THEY LIVE ANOTHER FEW YEARS NOTHING SHOULD EVER CHANGE EVERYTHING IS FOR THE BEST!!!!!!!/j /s

[fallen root]

🕊 Waddles into Lorechat while being in class

[hushed steeple]

AYE!!!!
PAY ATTENTION!!!!
LEARN TO MAKE BETTER THEORIES!!!!!!!

[fallen root]

🕊 BUT BUT FUNNY SKID LORE :(

[untold notch]

hey can you maybe like chill out

although wanderer you should pay attention to your class

[fickle wing]

i think they kiss women happy pride

[hushed steeple]

I’m just trying to be silly and chaotic.
Although, I do admit it came off a bit much!

[lusty merlin]

I give my lesbian stamp of approval

[sharp lichen]

I try to but reactions don't work

[hushed steeple]

When you wanna show support but discord says

N O

[calm gull]

How rude of it

[hushed steeple]

Would sky kids get along with inklings?

[vocal terrace]

One would just spam boyaa and the other honks.. I think they'll be ok

[hushed steeple]

Especially with the fashion!

[raw crypt]

furries are cool as hell, btw this is lorechat

[signal moon]

Exactly we talk lore here

[lusty merlin]

Ya idk how this would relate to anything here

[frigid tinsel]

I think you're better off not asking it in general

[signal moon]

Yey agreed

[raw crypt]

#furrysweep

[frigid tinsel]

furries are incredibly powerful. look at the Prophets and Passage guide.

[signal moon]

I am a furry not a weird one though and all the ones I’ve met so far are very kind people

[quick jasper]

pretty sure a lot of people in lore chat are furries

[lusty merlin]

I don’t really see how it would relate to anything lore though

[frigid tinsel]

Bring out the lorechat alignment chart

[signal moon]

True

[raw crypt]

What’s the conversation to be had?

Like… were not tgc so we cant answer why they support furries but tgc seems supportive of their art community and enjoys seeing artists express themself, so if furries wanna make the animal masks furries then thats how it goes

[frigid tinsel]

idk ask evolution

this also isn't furry chat so idk why you asked here

[raw crypt]

maybe u shouldve led with that, very confusing lol, its likely that there were animals that had furs in the past, that are no eithrr longer around (from the shattering quest6 event) or we haven’t met yet

[signal moon]

This is a lore chat nothing more

It’s a very fun to discuss lore

[lusty merlin]

Gestures to talented builder neck fluff and dreams capes

[frigid tinsel]

also most natural fibers are taken from the fur of animals so the fact that the ancestors had clothing at all

[signal moon]

Hmmmmm I don’t really know what animals in sky could have existed that had fur cause aren’t the manatees and mantas made of light even the birds to right

[raw crypt]

Its suspected that skykid cosmetics are mimicry of ancestor cosmetics using light, so while ancestors could’ve used furs from past animals, we might just mimic it, so thats why we have fur even tho we personally havent met creatures with fur like spirits have

[lusty merlin]

Ya I like that idea too, it’s a nice idea on how skykids can customize their appearance to basically anything

[signal moon]

That is true but I think it still would be interesting to see what animals had fur in the past in sky

[lusty merlin]

We had the mischief cat and Oreo, I’d say that counts

[frigid tinsel]

reminds me, when Flight came out and people mentioned that the Flight spirits' attire was prob really fluffy to keep warm in windy conditions, due to the noted lack of furry light creatures, they wondered where the fluff came from. the solution? wooly mantas. precious headcanon I cherish with my heart

[lusty merlin]

Ough I love that headcannon too, soft,,

[signal moon]

That is a super cute headcannon I would love to see wooly mantas and wooly manatees

What’s some interesting lore stuff we could talk about I haven’t looked into sky lore for a minute now

[lusty merlin]

Elder roles maybe? Like what they were in charge of doing and the quirks they’d have that would be evident in their realms

[signal moon]

What is the megabird I just got done with Eden and saw this

[floral grove]

iirc some people call Megabird as the creator/god of the Sky universe

[signal moon]

Okay

[sterile mauve]

I've never seen this what's this!!

[sterile mauve]

Yeah and why there are temples for them

[cold sparrow]

Megabird is most likely the temporary development name that was given to the entity that is now known as only 'The Light'
I'm not sure if the Light is in any way confirmed as the 'creator' of the universe, but it seems to be the source of the souls and consciousness of ancestors and Skykids (and possibly other light creatures)
all come from the light and return to the light
we have very little beyond that, but it seems implied that the light/megabird is more of a pool of consciousnesses and memories, rather than our traditional idea of a 'god'
it has very little influence on the actual lives of creatures, it just draws them back in as they die

[lost zephyr]

what if its just harvested and dyed hair

[cold sparrow]

Season of Passage masks (and capes) imply that there were a couple mammal-inspired creatures that most likely had fur

aside from that, it is possible to make fabric and faux fur from plant fibres, such as cotton, hemp and linen

[white junco]

we have a lot of masks that resemble creatures we don’t currently see in the world of sky. my guess is they got wiped out in the edening

[static vessel]

I’m wondering if we could talk about megabird since they’re only seen at the end of the game and in concept art. Can I talk about them just here since it’s a spoiler right? If not do tell me so I could delete my message

No i meant mention them not talk to them

[hushed steeple]

Ooooo, sorry
I reed that wrong😅

[hushed steeple]

And yes, you can
This channel is for talking about anything thats directly or tangentually lore related to sky lore
For upcomeing content or beta tester reveals it might be good to consider if you should spoil it or not, but everything older then that is no-resteiction topic

[untold notch]

beta is straight up not allowed outside of beta channels but other than that nothing is spoilers!

[hushed steeple]

Good guess
Remember, all the creatures that we find on land are also ones that are just at home in the sky and in the sea, so some of them could have survived the edaning in the oceans and repopulated the land after a few centuries

The ones that were stuck on land....
☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

[static vessel]

Ah ok thanks for clarifying

[brisk python]

im gonna theorize that this next season, with it having a mountain shape, might focus on eden again

[native galleon]

Two mountains*
Summer valley confirmed? /j

[static vessel]

It might… idk. There’s mountains, it could be that the mountains have an important role in the next season. And or they might be in prairie or forest, maybe valley, but valley is a snowy place. Taken from the teaser we could see grass and it wasn’t snowing.. so it could be either from prairie or forest

[native galleon]

Yeah i dont think it’s actually valley, they have enough seasons already

[static vessel]

Also with the new camera function, maybe it’ll act like a tourist season if that makes sense

[brisk python]

yeah, it could also be other mountain areas, but i crave more eden lore

[static vessel]

I could see Eden too but the sky wasn’t red 👹

[brisk python]

eden before it is exploded maybe what it was like before the tragedy

[static vessel]

Oh yeah maybe… but how can we go to the past?? Like a flashback maybe?

[native galleon]

we have a couple flashbacks to eden before the disaster actually!! in the aurora concert and the 3rd passage quest

[cold sparrow]

I think an Eden-focused season would rather be represented by a symbol with a single peak, not two

[native galleon]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message
#lore-discussion-spoilers message

Also (not that this rules it out but) Eden had a season relatively recently, at least compared to like Forest or Prairie
And that background in the trailer could be a lot of places, but I don’t think it’s Eden

Do you think we’ll get a new season area? More recent seasons have mainly modified existing areas or if they have added them, they’re pretty small

[lusty merlin]

It definitely looks new🎉

[keen shore]

I hope we do; the stuff outside the cave in the teaser looks new, but I don’t know if it’ll be explorable or will be backdrops in the distance

[lusty merlin]

Let me stand the mountians like a mountain goat💔

[brisk python]

more light animals what if

[keen shore]

I wouldn’t be too sad if this season followed the same theme as Passage with the whole idea of an already existing area but at a different time of day, because it brought a lot of new life to Isle and this might be a stretch but the lighting outside the cave looks sunset-y. However, I’d love a massive season area to explore because we haven’t gotten any large areas since Abyss

[native galleon]

a massive season area would be cool but i’ve started to think the map might be getting too big to add any more

Like sometimes i go somewhere like village or sanctuary and go “this was a season area???”

[native galleon]

i already do this in valley LMAOO

[sharp lichen]

TGC supports furries because Sky has furries. It could be argued if animal masks count as fursuits, but Ashen’s TS hints shows that they at least could potentially exist. In terms of animal materials, things like bird feathers exist

[sharp lichen]

Wait, why did you leave?

[sharp lichen]

Again? There hasn’t really been an Eden season

[untold notch]

how are they going to answer that if they're not here

[sharp lichen]

Oh right

[sharp lichen]

It depends on how much this new season will revolve around photography. For example, Performance doesn’t have too much to do with shared memories, but Remembrance is entirely focused around shared spaces.

I could imagine quests in which you have to photograph specific areas in Sky, similar to Enchantment.

But it could also be a large, photogenic area or relate to photography in a different way

[sharp lichen]

Sanctuary Islands is an incredibly cool area, but Village of Dreams has no interior and that really bugs me. Even still, there’s not like there’s a maximum map size that TGC has to play around, big areas are cool

[sharp lichen]

I’m thinking this new photography season might be like Shattering. Shattering didn’t really have a “time of day” change, but it did introduce dynamic lighting to most of the realms, as well as a “seasonal area”.

[sharp lichen]

One thing I love about the Sanctuary Islands is how much stuff there is to do, especially for new players. There’s six spirits, a whole sidequest, coral reefs, the caves, the flying islands, the sea islands, and the Days of Nature stuff. My only complaint with it is that it’s hard to escape unless you have lots of flight power

[raw crypt]

Ahhh I’ve been taking a leave/break from skycord for my mental health + so i can focus on other things, ive been gone for a few days but tabbed back in last night bc i was killing time waiting for actor, but then I left again^^ its just personal stuff and ill prob leave again soon! maybe ill b back back one day but for now ive got other stuff to focus on i’ll probably rejoin at times to update the pins whenever thats needed (looks mournfully at tgc waiting for more concept art)

[soft timber]

I do wonder if the Color spirits blow the bubbles around the tickets and just let them fly away to different realms

[drowsy flare]

I just imagine the guides take the bubbles and hide them places but that's an interesting theory!

[native galleon]

and EIGHT (?!?!?!?) wl!!! Who allowed this /posi

[brisk python]

shattering?

[sharp lichen]

I’d say it’s Eden themed, but not Eden focused.

[hushed steeple]

Im calling it rigtht now, the new seasonal area is gonna be in eather the red or blue area

[sharp lichen]

Eight’s not enough, WE NEED MORE

[sharp lichen]

To be fair, there’s a lot of places that could fit in the sky map while still keeping the rough Diamond shape

[hushed steeple]

Im not talking about keeping the diamond shape
Im saying these 2 spots specificly is where I belive it will be based on my analysis
Make a note of this now, marvel at my precognative powers later

[untold notch]

that is a good point actually is the diamond shape going to be retained as more and more maps get added

[sharp lichen]

It’s not the first time someone’s predicted a season here

[hushed steeple]

First time I've heard of that, but it maters not
This is based on reasonabel congecture, not mear guesswork
(Uptite british voice😂)

It will be in one of these 2 spots

[sharp lichen]

Reminds me of how Salem predicted the entirety of Season of Abyss

[keen shore]

THAT is misinformation /lh I joined this channel during season of abyss and predicted only a small fragment of the final quest
The season I DID predict was shattering

[hushed steeple]

I’m predicting that the next season will have a falling out of at least two friends.
One person will get lost.
The guide is going to have a mental breakdown(probably a small one)
And one spirit is just gonna… be there.
(I promise to the light that I have not seen any beta content aside from the cosmetics.)

[sharp lichen]

Oh right i misremembered

[nimble ingot]

It would be interesting to see a season with the spirits were once friends. When the skykids met them, the spirits have friendship problems with each other.
Thus opening up with quests to find out what happened and see if there is anything that can be done to mend their friendships.

Bonus points to if there is a broken friendship that cannot be mended, and thus would transition to helping the spirits overcome losing each other and moving on.

I believe this should be explored more in Sky. Not only as a life lesson to friendships, but also add another layer of lore to the game.

[hushed steeple]

In real life you can smell most flowers without problem.
However,
In Sky, you must be wise of which color you choose to inhale./j

[frigid tinsel]

Be wary of what color you soup you or your friends with

[hushed steeple]

Smelling an elusive green flower is said to turn any sky kid into a chia kid!

[frank cedar]

I’m very new to lore here, does anyone know how skykids vision works?

[untold notch]

I can't say I do no

[hushed steeple]

I can only assume it’s like people in that they use their eyes, but now I’m not sure.
I know there was once a discussion about this, but it was between whether they see from their eyes or chest.

[frigid tinsel]

There’s nothing indicating that they cannot see typically like most humans. Though, it’s plausible that due to a connection between light and sound, skykids can utilize echolocation to supplement their sight

[sharp lichen]

Look everyone, it seems like TGC is doing something new

This is Jason Grace, who is mentioned in Sky’s credits alongside Vincent Diamante
<https://www.jasondgrace.com/
“Recently, Jason joined the esteemed creative team at thatgamecompany where he is designing sounds for Sky: Children of the Light and ** a new IP.**”

In my opinion, this could either refer to the Sky Animation Project, a Sky spin-off, or (probably unlikely) an entirely new franchise

[hushed steeple]

Aw man!
Now I’m curious about that new IP!
AHHHHGGHHG

[south depot]

What’s IP?

[frigid tinsel]

Intellectual Property

[south depot]

Oh what could that mean?

[frigid tinsel]

Some legal thing I struggle to explain but basically

[south depot]

[sharp lichen]

Usually in gaming terms it means a new franchise, but here I’m skeptical on that definition

[south depot]

Sky 2

[hushed steeple]

What if it’s just a children’s night light!!! Lol

[sharp lichen]

It could be a spin-off, or the Sky Animation Project

[south depot]

Ugh I’m so excited for the animation project,,,, the lore it contains just from the trailer

[hushed steeple]

THE COLORS AND TEXTURES!!!!!!!
so beautiful

[south depot]

The market area in isle of dawn

[hushed steeple]

The working and running version of the possibly trading hub from wastelands battle field!!!

[sharp lichen]

There’s the Sky book, the Sky animation project, aviary, the PC release, and presumably other stuff

I don’t know if they’ll hire one person that already worked with Sky to compose with another franchise

[hushed steeple]

Yeah,
They’ve also got to finish the next season and keep up with events.

Do you think sky kids have homes/houses? Lore wise, what do they do outside of the things we see them do in game?

[sharp lichen]

I mean, why not Home island?

[hushed steeple]

I don’t know. That’s why I’m starting speculation!/lh

[sharp lichen]

Well, it’s implied that Skykids are separate from the player, so they might sleep in shared spaces or places such as the Treehouse, or really anywhere

Skykids are resilient beings, they can sleep on the grass

[frigid tinsel]

I’ve seen different ideas. One thought was that skykids may be migratory like light and light creatures are, so few would settle in a permanent home. I’ve seen the concept of skykids taking up residence in any of the homes ancestors had constructed or hanging out primarily in one realm and moving about there.

Ultimately it comes down to how you view skykid society, which there’s little canon info on, so those ideas would be mostly headcanon on your part

[nimble ingot]

Hope this helps.

An Intellectual Property essentially means to own an idea. A person/entity (such as a business or company) who has an idea, an invention, design or artwork can claim their own ideas as their intellectual property. They do this with a copyright claim on their ideas.
This is to prevent other people from taking their ideas and claim it as their own (basically plagiarism).
These ideas can be a concept, invention, art, design, logo or a game.

For TGC's game, Sky.
The idea of Sky being a fictional place where people are ancestors, there are creatures called skykids and these skykids look and act in a particular way. That is a intellectual property the company can establish and thus anyone else who would put up a similar thing can get into trouble should they try to claim it is their original idea.

With what Baud posted, the IP in question would be music.
Music can also go into IPs as it takes time, effort and money to create music. Therefore it makes sense in a business to make sure no one else can simply steal their music to make profit off it.

This is also partially why fan artists can make art without infringing (breaking) the copyright. With Sky art, while the artist can take credit for their time spent making the drawing, the drawing of the skykid as a character of Sky belongs to TGC.
While artists can make and give away fanart, they cannot sell it without permission from TGC. Because they own the IP of a skykid.

Imagine walking in knee deep snow and accidently walking over a skykid that fell asleep in it.

[hushed steeple]

ADOPT

[nimble ingot]

You are my Friend now XD

[hushed steeple]

My sky kid does something…
Y’know, I’m not really sure what my sky kid does when I’m offline.

[nimble ingot]

Mine is either goofing about in Dawn, Eden, or is asleep in a nice comfy hammock somewhere.
Either case, they are pretty lazy unless something interesting is about to happen (including any mischief they can get up to)

[sharp lichen]

This is how TGC defines it

[sharp lichen]

I’d imagine most moths would do stargazing, looking up at their origin

[sharp lichen]

It’s still difficult to say what the “new IP” means, it really still could be anything. A Sky NFT game? I would despise it, but it would be technically possible

[nimble ingot]

Ooh.
fair, this is a much better explaination on Sky's IP.
Thanks Baud.

[hushed steeple]

I think my sky kid may have a secret garden.

[nimble ingot]

If it is music, then we would know it is at least that.

[hushed steeple]

SKY MUSICAL

[sharp lichen]

It says he is designing sounds for “Sky Children of the Light” and “a new IP”, whatever that would mean is up to you.

[sharp lichen]

I don’t think a composer would work for Sky’s music and another large game being developed at the same time

[cold sparrow]

nah, they might

depending on the scope and deadlines of the project
certain sounds or music need a little bit of time to develop, and switching between different tasks to get back to the first one with fresh eyes (or ears) can help
or if a sound is in approval limbo, they have time to work on another task
a freelancer sound designer is not necessarily hired for a full-time 9 to 5 position

[sharp lichen]

I guess you’re right

The only thing we can do to know about this secret new thing is wait

[frigid tinsel]

Composers often make soundtracks for multiple games, often concurrently

[sharp lichen]

I swear one day I’m gonna make a Sky music doc

[hushed steeple]

AYE!!! Shouldn’t I be the one to do that!
Seeing as I am a musician/composer myself after all!
I mean, not that I’d be motivated to do that to begin with….

Yeah maybe I’ll just leave it to you!

[hushed steeple]

The elders have been in their temples for far too long. They need to get out and touch some clouds!

[hushed steeple]

Are season candles seasoned

Personally I’d think they smell something like orange or something

[sharp lichen]

Depends on if you think Skykids have noses

[hushed steeple]

Maybe

Why would they have flowers

[sharp lichen]

If they do, then it would be a cool idea to have different colored candles smell differently. Maybe white candles smell clean and pure, red candles smell hot and soothing, and black candles smell unimpressive.

But imagine the smell of dozens of barefoot children running around

[hushed steeple]

I’d think they’d probably smell like dirt if anything, I don’t think beings of pure light (probably) really smell like anything

[sharp lichen]

Yeah probably, Skykids won’t smell bad, but it’s the places that they’re going to that will

Forest

Though I imagine Daylight Prairie to smell very pleasant

[hushed steeple]

The forest is probably the only place that would smell, I’d think all the standing water there would start smelling really bad at some point. And the wastes too I guess, polluted water

Krill and crab’s probably don’t smell like anything either, but the crabs will probably smell like the water they’re in

The Krill might smell mechanical, they sound like a bunch of gears turning when you’re near

[sharp lichen]

I remember there was a discussion here on what the Sky realms would taste like, that was interesting

[cold sparrow]

honestly, I can imagine the entirety of the wasteland smelling really sharp and unpleasant like oil

[hushed steeple]

Yeah, definitely, but what about Eden? It’s a mix of literally everything

[slender sphinx]

.. there are black candles?

[hushed steeple]

No, we are talking about how seasoned candles smell

[sharp lichen]

There’s ones in the Season of Flight that can’t be light and are more greyish

[cold sparrow]

Eden I think might just be a bit too stormy to really take in any specific scent
you're distracted with the wind whipping around your face
I can imagine there are notes of weird scents that you pick up every now and then, but mostly it just feels and smells very cold and dry

[hushed steeple]

Probably the only spots you’d smell something are those tunnels or building areas

[brittle void]

It says one of the elders is a prince? Does it mean the little prince? Why would he be an elder he’s just a character from one of the seasons- help guys I’m so confused

[hushed steeple]

They have names?

[brittle void]

I guess

[cold sparrow]

this is not refering to The Little Prince, which is a seperate figure adapted from a children's book
the king and the prince from this document are refering to figures mostly pulled from concept art, that might have initially planned for the game, but their current existence and role in the game is unclear - there are some figures hinted at in murals that seem related to these concepts, particularly the one Skykid (?) in the Isle of Dawn, and the mural of a giant figure with a crown in an Eden mural, but we have little more than these snippets

[cold sparrow]

the names, likewise, are taken from old concept art, where the elders have been denoted with hebrew letters
the devs are not using these names anymore, and tried to actively discourage the use of the hebrew names, but they have been adopted by the fan community to some degree

[hushed steeple]

Huh

[brittle void]

I saw you typing that for like a full minute and I was like “oh god they’re writing a whole paragraph aren’t they-“ thank you for the answer!

[hushed steeple]

Skyed

[slender sphinx]

ohh i wasn't sure if i'd ever seen any

[sharp lichen]

Long essays are frequent here lol

[viral bay]

I wonder if there are seasons in Sky

Like winter, summer, autumn and spring

[left mist]

yes but only when its funny

[sharp lichen]

they probably used to exist normally, but with the distorted state of time nowadays, it probably won't happen except for home

My theory is that the chaos in Eden is almost like a black hole, bending space and time around it and causing things like distort. However, Home is so far away from Eden that nothing really distorts, which is why snow falls

[hushed steeple]

I’m not so sure, it’s been stated that time does move regularly lore wise. However, this would be a bit complex maybe and inconvenient as well as breaking the general meaning and theme if each area of time actually moved regularly in the realms.

The movement of time is made abundantly clear in the season of passage when we have to “wait till night” or “wait for an eclipse.”

So tldr: Sky’s realms have normal time lore wise but it doesn’t work with the games/the devs didn’t like it so it’s not an actual feature.

[hushed steeple]

Also, forest isn’t always raining. It just seems that way for symbolism.

[sharp lichen]

My theory is that the Passage memories are sending the skykids back in time (or at least replicating it). that's why we see an earlier version of Eden, crabs similar to the Switch Trailer, and a rainless Forest

[hushed steeple]

The prompt states “wait here until nightfall?” when you want to go to the area or do certain quests.
One literally asks you to wait for an eclipse.

[sharp lichen]

That's true, but I guess it'll be useful to wait until the last passage quest to fully explain everything

[hushed steeple]

True

Although, the interaction the player has with the guide when opening the tree after the second to last quest seems to imply the great rejection of raccoon happened presently.
But we can still wait and see what’s in store!

[strong edge]

constellation lore ✨👀

[untold notch]

yeahh thats a sweet little detail

[strong edge]

I like the part where Cassiopeia is like ruler and then Adef is in that same constellation

[untold notch]

i think the other friend constellations might have equivalents as well, but i don't know what those would be

[sharp lichen]

we're not connected to the stars enough

[strong edge]

oh yep they do I’m still tryna put em together
I’ll send pictures of other ones

And I’ll put them together

[strong edge]

(Cancer)

[frigid tinsel]

Wow, I’m on the wiki

[wooden cedar]

THEY HAVE NAMES

[ocean saddle]

HOW DID I NOT KNOW THESE 😭

[wooden cedar]

Ngl I have never thought about my skid being a diff person than me… I guess if they were able to do things outside of my presence, probably watching every single shared memory spell they can find.

[scenic siren]

Are the stripes on Forest elder arms tattoo, paint or gloves?

[scenic arch]

So what exactly are Skykids? From what I understand they are from a celestial constellation and are like living flames both producing and needing light to survive. Though the darkness and corrupted water sources (rain in the forest, water in the wasteland) can also cause harm and put out a skykid's light. The crystals in eden are darkness infused so they can harm skykids as well. But what exactly is a skykid? Why can fire heal them but they can drown? Why are they able to swim underwater if made of a fire? Are they a flame's Light perhaps?

[hushed steeple]

I believe forest elder just has gloves.

[sturdy wyvern]

From what I know, skykids are beings made with a hollow exterior made of soft clay, filled with wl, and possessing a small flame for a “soul”. Although being human-like, they have no mouths, no nose holes, no visible ears, and although we know they have eyelids there is no evidence to suggest they they have any real eyes that aren’t simply a hole into their insides. The thing that sets a skykid apart from other creatures of light is their clay exterior which acts as both protection and as a storage for wl. The wl in particular not only aids the skykid in flying, but it seems to act as layers of protection for it’s flame, as only when all wl has been depleted can darkness actually seem to absorb the light from the “soul”. They don’t seem to need to “breath” in the same way we do, but they most likely still need oxygen for their flame as when underwater not only do they have a breath meter, but the breath meter is separate from the wl meter, implying that skykids need something from the air that isn’t available underwater in order to survive.

Also fire can heal them because to them it’s just another source of light, and standing in fire doesn’t hurt them because last time I checked they don’t seem to have any heat receptors or nerves on their body.

Hope this helps!

[nimble ingot]

There is a lot of debate and interesting theories about what a skykid and how they work. Some go over this in a scientific way (anatomy, physical body, how they can vary in size and in some cases even age), others explore this idea in a creative sense such as their personality, as well as within fanon.

This is but one person's take on skykids, while you are welcome to ask other users, or look in the lorechat's history.

From what I understand of skykids are they are beings that look and act like a child, but certianly is not. As they can touch fire, have a flame within them, can fly, and are incredibly resilient with then being able to survive in Eden and be reborn.
I would think th ereason why they can drown in water is because the flame within them cannot and should not burn out. Supposedly when they dive underwater, their bodies can hold a certain amount of air for the flame to use until the skykid finds an air pocket, bubbles or even light to sustain the flame.
Which conveintly ties into gameplay mechanics well for the devs to introduce strategy in a level for players.

Knowing Skykids are canonically associated with the Light, like most creatures of the Light, they are vulnerable to Darkness. When a skykid is exposed to darkness (either by touch, or in an attack), their light would be drained from their bodies.
Should a skykid lose all of their light, their bodies become cold and hard. They become petrified (turned into stone) and then shatter.

Based on what you have said, I would assume you have some theories about skykids.
If so, I would love to hear your thoughts and theories, if you have the time and can share them. 🙂

[nimble ingot]

It is possible that skykids (as well as all characters in Sky for that matter) can have more features and/or details that the game may not be able to properly show due to limitations or stylistic choices.

The model of the skykids do have ears, although not easy to spot at a glance on the dark skin. Although, you can see them with zooming in and/or wearing a cosemtics that helps them show up more.
The same goes for the nose, as the head has a subtle ridge detail to imply a nose.
It is reasonable to argue why most characters in sky would lack these details could be to optimize the game (not to mention fingers or eyes).

For example,
If a character would be using their hands for gestures, they would have fingers. Whereas a character that may not use their fingers as much, models would lack these details and therefore have hands that are more blocky instead.

You are not wrong with your observations, and thank you for sharing them.

[inland cliff]

im questioning whether does genchat or lore discussion has the most text written

[untold notch]

genchat, without a doubt

[round parrot]

Probably genchat
More active

[cold sparrow]

definitely genchat

[sharp lichen]

By number of messages? Genchat. But by length of messages? Maybe lorechat

[sharp lichen]

Here’s what we most definitively know:

Skykids are presumably genderless.

Skykids are beings born from light, hence the phrase “Children of the Light”.

They also have an inner light, This is somewhat of a “heart” for the Sky Child. The Sky Child keeps their candle in their chest. When they bring the candle out, their "heart" on their chest disappears.

The cape of a Sky Child is made entirely of light, since it doesn’t display a shadow.

Most cosmetics are also made of light, since they don’t appear in unlit Skykids. Only when you give them your light, the cosmetics appear.

Skykids appear to be made of clay or another earth-like material. Because of this, fire doesn’t hurt them, while water damages them a lot.

[young lance]

Can we discuss stuff thats still in beta here?

aw ok i had a really cool theory

[lusty merlin]

Can talk about it in beta discussion but only stuff in live game is allowed here

[cold sparrow]

you've been told that discussing beta stuff isnt allowed here and yet you do?
mentioning beta content outside of the beta channels isn't allowed in this server

[young lance]

i never specifically said what it is though, I guess i thought that making it subtle would be ok

[lusty merlin]

No like literally anything about beta no matter how vauge that wasn’t shown by devs outside of beta isint allowed here

[young lance]

damn alright my bad

ill wait a few weeks lol

[lusty merlin]

Tattoo make the most sense to me imo as there’s no indication of a seam for gloves. Paint i feel like would be less precise and sharp and a little more messy. And working as a blacksmith in a realm where rain is the norm would probably wash or ruin a a paint design a lot

Plus they glow aswell when they’re given light along with their dress and hair. I know paint does that to, but I stand by tattoos with my previous reasons

[keen shore]

I like to use the idea of hand/wrist braces because they rub their wrist when starting the cutscene like it’s hurt to some capacity

[lusty merlin]

OUGH that too, would make sence for wielding a giant hammer like that

[hushed steeple]

What if they put something like clay or something sort of jewelry on their arms? They don’t seem to have any seam or line to signify the end of a glove, which could give the idea of a tattoo.
However, upon further examination you can see that these lines stick outward a significant amount. About as far as it would be to glue a pencil on your arm(I do not condone the gluing of pencils to arms.)
Not to mention it being blocky, however, that could just be due to technical limitations.

[nimble ingot]

Or a stylistic choice.

[hushed steeple]

Yes.
However, that’s true with any of these theories as we are talking about fashion here./lh/j

[frigid tinsel]

You can see on Rain in the frozen memory that the lines bulge out. It could be a model thing. It could be braces. It could be stitches on gloves.

[hushed steeple]

Or it could be strange bug bites!/j

[nimble ingot]

personally, there is a possibility of the elders' markings to be connected to their power with the Light.
There is not a lot of examples to showcase this as far as I can see, though would describe this as follows:

With the ancestors, they generally have little to no light on their bodies/ cosmetics. Suggesting that their connection to the Light is very weak.
Whereas with the Winged light (formerly known as Stars), they are fully made of Light, and thus have a very strong connection to it.

Skykids are a hybrid of these two factors, which leads to them having eyes and a chest aglow with light. Which may vary depending on cosmetics that may showcase more markings such as a third eye.

The elders are like the ancestors, but they are more powerful as their markings may tie into their connection to the Light.
This can be proven with when we first meet them, their markings are dim or darkened.
When given Light, their connection to it has been empowered/restored and their bodies start glowing and their markings now visible.

[lusty merlin]

Looking at their cutscene they do seem to be raised up a little, most noticeable on the right arm towards the elbow which is cool.

I’ll personally stick to tattoos since I just like the idea of them but this is a detail I haven’t noticed before!

[hushed steeple]

Bitten by the elusive, UV radioactive light bug.
Hearing the voice of the creator come from seemingly nowhere now./j

[nimble ingot]

If Sky had fireflies in the game, what would they look like, I wonder

eh, probably flying tiny sprites with wings and blinking orbs.

However, considering the lore, it would be fascinating to see what ancestors have done with fireflies and where they once existed.
It would have been most likely for them to once exist in the marshes of Wasteland. If Wasteland was once marshland.

[hushed steeple]

OOOOOOO I love the idea of wasteland having once been a bit swampy and humid!

I WANT TO SEE MANGROVES IN SKY!!!!!!!!

[nimble ingot]

Agreed!
Especically with recalling how concept art of trees mostly focused on the Hidden Forest.
Not to mention the potential of reviving some of the older assets of the trees in Light Awaits as inspiration.

It would be nice to see more of the world of Sky.

[hushed steeple]

Ever been threatened by a tree?
It happened to dismay once!
They had to spend months in therapy to recover.

At least we’re going to have some actual leaves once aviary is fully revived!

[lusty merlin]

Remembrance follows refugees from the wasteland war, the season was about helping them come to terms with the people they’ve lost.
Passage is about following the lessons of passage guide and their pupils, the quests we do is meant for each pupil to help overcome something they have a challenge with

[hushed steeple]

I pretended that the remembrance guide was a rude person who was only helping the other spirits because they were annoyed by their wails.
It was pretty funny!
They messed up and had to profusely apologize by the end!!!

[nimble ingot]

I believe they helped the spirits because they were refugees, or stowaways inside the vault.
While most of the citizens commited themselves to the cold darkness of the vault, others were trying to escape the corruptive darkness that was happening outside.
Furthermore, these refugees had to sneak around outside of the vault. And if they get caught, they either get hurt by a flury of spears, or taken away by the guards.

[kind sun]

Q: Who inhabited the eye of the storm (eden civilization) before the winds of darkness literally paid everyone's taxes

Q: how did the eye of the storm even started

[sharp lichen]

From the switch trailer, we can see Eden as an uninhabited mountain. However, it became a large settlement/city, with the architecture being similar to Wasteland

And the storm was created when the big Eden Diamond you see in PNR explodes, spewing out darkness

[hushed steeple]

My guess is that Eden may have housed esteemed ancestors.
And, yes, the diamond did explode spreading darkness across the lands.
Possibly caused by the king after being corrupted but that’s just my theory.

Also, my friend has a decent point.
Now I haven’t been back for that long, but I’m not sure we’ve discussed candol lore much. Unless it happened while I was gone.
I mean we all know they were left by the ancestors and some of us know they were very symbolic and religious.
But what about production?
Were they made with the wax of now extinct bees?
Did the bees manufacture and sell candol goods?
WERE THEY USED AS CURRENCY BY THE ANCESTORS?!!?!?????
Probably not, but it’s a fair question to ask!

[sharp lichen]

I mean, we see pointing candlemaker, so it's likely they were created artificially by the ancestors. They probably were used as a currency, since they're used as a currency now. Candles just seem to be a very compact form of light

[hushed steeple]

They can also be MONEY PRINTERS!!!!!!
The US would have definitely banned candles if they could produce even a single penny daily.

[floral grove]

Maybe candles are used as currency now because the Ancestors turned into Spirits. So by giving them candles, it's like paying them a tribute. Kinda like how we humans light candles for graves

[hushed steeple]

Now I feel the need to hunt around for any sign of an old currency.

[sharp lichen]

I guess a more accurate term would be like plants, which slowly spawn a self-sustaining form of wax

[hushed steeple]

So then would wax be the equivalent of glucose?

So if lanterns could record and replay things, do you think the vault ancestors made movies? Maybe even funny skits? I have a feeling they likely made memes out of other ancestor’s memories they documented.

[sharp lichen]

That seems like more of a Valley thing, they probably used shared memories like tiktok

Vault would be more concerned with "boring" things like preserving history and culture

[hushed steeple]

I like the idea of a very scholarly presenting group of people acting out the Jesus take the wheel meme.

[floral grove]

This reminds me of that one page in All Tomorrows that showed aliens (future humans pretty much) that passed time by using some sort of lantern that can project movies. Maybe Sky people did the same thing?

[sharp lichen]

Valley Elders would definitely spread their memes everywhere

On a more serious note, I think the memory candles were created in Valley, but the technology originated in Vault. The Valley people probably saw what Vault was doing when recording things and decided to use it for entertainment instead

[strong edge]

Twin 1: “Hi, look at my meme”
Twin 2: “no mine. His is ugly.”

[hushed steeple]

Yes, and the technology was spread to everywhere.

(But isle/j)

Now I’m curious what sort of trends they would’ve had?

[sharp lichen]

That's difficult to say, we know not too much about Valley's culture besides the fact that they enjoyed many styles of entertainment- sports, skating, acting, music, flying, skiing, and others could all phase in and out

[floral grove]

Capes were a trend with the Ancestors that's for sure

[hushed steeple]

I can imagine young ancestors taking part in a chiseling trend where they chip away designs into their bodies….

….And then regret it as they realize there’s no going back.

[floral grove]

The Sky equivalent of getting a Japanese tattoo without realizing that it says something very unhinged

[hushed steeple]

Imma go take a shower. I may be back later.

BYYYYEEEEEE!!!!!!

[south depot]

Anyone else notice that the rock things where the spirits appear in each realm lobby are actually the spirits grave, and we can see the same structure in Oreo land therefore we summon oreo back from the dead at his grave

[hushed steeple]

I have a bit of a… I suppose, unique(?) theory. Or maybe it’s more of an idea?
Bah, it’s a theory no matter what.

So what if living things made of light have trace amounts of certain colored light in them. And these traces of colored light determine certain characteristics.

For example let’s use the ancestors.
When determining which lights might be in a being of light you’ll want to look at physical characteristics and abilities.
An ancestor was likely to have been made out of rock, at least partially. This could have qualified the ancestors for the green light which appears to have the ability to earth ben-
Affect rocks and possibly even plant life. However, they could not fly and likely could not breathe underwater. In fact it’s hard to tell if they could even swim. This disqualifies them from having the potential to hold cyan and blue light.

I could go on about these characteristics in ancestors but this would get too long and you get the idea.

So what characteristics could each light provide to a being of light?

Here are my ideas:

Red- probably corruption or maybe the ability to do wrong intentionally(maybe it’s a developed trait)
Orange-every light being has this, it is the flame of life. In other words their heart.
Green-As used earlier this just refers to an earth like exterior/body.
Cyan-the ability of flight.
Blue-the ability to live under the water. Or simply swim.
Purple-unsure but it could be the ability to use brain powers such as telekinesis.

Obviously there is nothing(at least nothing I’m aware of)in the lore that contributes to this theory, I just thought it was a neat idea to speculate about.

[solid osprey]

so basically we came a little too late?, the world is already infested with dark creatures, and they're literally called spirits?, i mean sometimes you find some who are not spirits and still living but then they just disappear never coming back and from what i saw i think our mission is to bring back light by collecting wl but we can't even get too far in eden i mean it looked like there was like a kingdom there

but its too late we can't even be near the thing that we need to get the light to without dying bc of the rocks so everything we're doing is just not helping at all

[hushed steeple]

Our mission is theorized to be a guide for spirits to ascension. And yes, there is a kingdom. It is known(as of now)as the Kingdom of Sky and includes each realm.

[quasi turtle]

So this's what happened when the stars fall ?

[hushed steeple]

No, this is likely a depiction of the battle that occurred a long time before sky kids appeared.

[quasi turtle]

Wait ! Fr ?? Did I missed something?? 😭😭

[hushed steeple]

Well, I could be off a bit.
I wasn’t exactly in lore chat during the season of AURORA.
I also just noticed the falling things. But those could be something else.

[solid osprey]

are the mantas some kind of an evil creature or?

[hushed steeple]

No, not at all. In fact there are many points in which they guide the sky kids.

[quasi turtle]

I feel like the mantas are the good ver of krills, idk

[solid osprey]

it looks like the soldiers are fighting against the mantas not with them

[hushed steeple]

Krill’s are corrupted light creatures.
So it’s more so the opposite.

[quasi turtle]

Yes this is what we saw, even though they imprisoned them

[solid osprey]

it looks more of hunting for thier skin since we see a spirit wearing their skin

[quasi turtle]

WAIT WHAT???😭😭😭😭

[hushed steeple]

Actually, this scene is placed in valley which is known as a central place for entertainment. These manta are being held here for races.

[solid osprey]

then what about the spirit wearing a manta??

[hushed steeple]

That is likely just fabric dyed to look like a manta.
I presume you’re thinking of the season of sanctuary spirits which appear very eco friendly.

[solid osprey]

the cape in your pfp i honestly thought it was just a dead manta

i think its a different one but from the angle that you took the picture from it looks more of the cape im talking about

[hushed steeple]

No, this is the ult from season of shattering which didn’t have traditional spirits so no creatures were ever touched to make it.
And besides, the capes of sky kids are made purely of light.

[sharp lichen]

In a way, sure. But we also came at a right time to prevent the darkness from fully spreading

[sharp lichen]

Not exactly, we free the spirits for one

[solid osprey]

so basically the spirits are held and can not go to the after life until we do something?

[sharp lichen]

Those blue things are probably not stars, but cyan light! You can see it in the final Season of Sanctuary quest, as well as the Season of Enchantment, and it’s associated with wind and clouds. That’s why it formed a cloud vortex

[solid osprey]

i thought dark creatures can not go to the place after eden so what's holding them?

[sharp lichen]

Not exactly, if you look closely at the Golden Wasteland, you can see the remnants of a battle. This was in the season of Aurora, which just expanded what we know about that battle

[hushed steeple]

They are corrupted

[sharp lichen]

Crabs can ascend, but not Dark Dragons. It’s confirmed that Dark Dragons/Krills are “corrupted”, so maybe that’s what’s preventing them

[austere dagger]

Can someone explain to me WHY the stars fell?😭 and the ||Eden elder(if there is one)||

[sharp lichen]

We also see them used as mounts, so they could be like their world’s version of horses

[solid osprey]

i think it would be more of a god than an elder since eden is basically the afterlife we get reborn after finishing it

[sharp lichen]

The stars fell probably because the old Spirit civilization used so much light and industrialized so much that it became unsustainable and their kingdom collapsed.

The Eden Elder we know very little about, only that they are completely dead now

[austere dagger]

How about ||in the season of shattering that big pink red shard thing||

[sharp lichen]

You don’t need to spoiler content from that season

The Season of Shattering’s final memory, the one that had all the Elders, showed a tiny thing falling into a massive diamond structure. That tiny thing was probably the Eden Elder.

There was also a poem that accompanied it: #news message

[austere dagger]

I have so many questions ab Eden and season of shattering

[sharp lichen]

If you want, I have a long video about it: #promote-your-sky-content message

[austere dagger]

Thx I will check it out!

[hushed steeple]

So if sky kids are born of stars, does that mean sky kids have the potential to explode and/or become a black hole?

I’m only partially joking.

[sharp lichen]

exploding skykids would be funny

[hushed steeple]

If a sky kid could become black hole, would it remain in the form of a child?
Would that mean we’d have a child of ultimate hangry destruction!!???!!!??

[earnest briar]

How do you look at something that has done us no harm and actively helped us by carrying us to places we can’t reach, along with recharging our cape energy, and ask ‘is this evil’?

Because I have genuinely no idea how you came to that conclusion.

[waxen vigil]

they explain later that the screenshots look like the soldiers are fighting the mantas. people explained that no, mantas are not evil and they understood
not sure if you meant to be condescending sounding, but if so lets please not do that!

[earnest briar]

If I came off as condescending I did not mean to, I was baffled at why someone would ask something like that because it’s pretty clearly shown throughout the game that Mantas are not evil.

[waxen vigil]

that is understandable how it could be confusing tbh. the war scene does show the mantas fighting the ancestors, and how of context/without knowing the rest of aurora lore it doesn't make the most sense. i mean we are led to the impression that the ancestors are good up until that point

[hushed steeple]

People get confused at the most confusioning straight forwards backwards life warping normal things. That’s generally what life is and accepting that is how you do life I guess.
…….
I don’t know what I’m saying I’m silently having a mental break down right now.

Life and I are similar, we’re confused and confusing.
/lh

I should definitely get off discord right now.
Good bye!

[crude echo]

What is the megabird?

[sharp lichen]

Megabird seems to be an originator/progenitor of The Light, an all-encompassing force which consists of all light in the world

We see it as a massive supercluster of light in the game at the end credits and in other places I think

[crude echo]

Ah I see. Ty!

[viral bay]

There are 3 things that looks like the megabird in game:

1. The cluster of stars in the Orbit sky
2. The drawing on spinning water before entering portal to office
3. The wing light UI (for this one you'll have to look at old concept arts of Megabird, where it is shown that the bird has a circle/blob for the "head" and rays radiating from it for its "body")

Megabird appearance list:

[nimble ingot]

Adding on to the list.
The swirling pattern on the side of the of the forgotten ark in Wasteland, as well as potentially the light rays surrounding the diamond in the Eden mural.

[sharp lichen]

As well as the symbol turned around

[nimble ingot]

Interesting now that I think of it.
The wind vane could potentially hint at the King (diamond) and Megabird (the lines coming together within it) were ruling together as one.

Wait...
Would it be possible that the Megabird was the one trapped in the diamond???
Since it is shattered to bits, and as we travel up to Orbit. It may as well have been the path megabird took, which could explain the trail of destruction.
With the diamond shattered, the King (represented by the diamond) is also destroyed.

Ergo, the season of shattering could have been the memories of the megabird migrating with the creatures, and the spirits could either be aspects of the creatures from the memories (butterfly, manta, jellyfish, crab, darkplant(?) and krill).

If this theory were to be true, then the question would rise as to why?
Did the king try to trap the megabird so the light creatures cannot ascend with it?
Did the megabird cause the destruction becuase the elders disobeyed it?
Did the megabird try to escape the darkness of the king, but in destroying the diamond, the darkness spread to the realms?

[sharp lichen]

I think the reason as to why they would trap it would be simple: the Ancestor civilization wanted light, and that big beam in the sky and the biggest light of all

[nimble ingot]

Another thing. ( a bit of a fragmented observation on Aurora=megabird theory)

We know Aurora in the season represents the megabird.
As this is based on her appearance in the final part of the concept featuring a long flowing dress with a pair of golden wings (which reminds me of the elder bird's 4 winged design ). As well as with Aurora flying to Orbit with the skykids, her voice in the ascension and beginning of the game.
That symbolism of the voice present in the beginning and end of the game. This may represent a infinite loop created by the voice, which is what the megabird is based on concept art and the orbiting water mural in the Vault's, around the office portal.

With the Aurora concert. We can see Aurora is trapped inside a bubble. Aurora made her appearance with the orb moving to the centre of the colliseum, and then Aurora emerging from it. While this happened at the start of the concept, the songs echo this transition with the wasteland song.
Where at the first song, Aurora could be referring to megabird as the being made of light, can have different forms and knows so much of the world to the point of asking us skykids if we understand. As Aurora tells the story and the camera zooms out, it shows us how her world (who she is) is trapped in the bubble.
And in the last song before the encore that is When Kingdom comes, the bubbel that could also have been the ball of light we were following in each section of the concert up to the death section in Wasteland. We see Aurora emerge from it and ascend.

[nimble ingot]

Would it have been Greed that was the downfall of the sky kingdom?

[hushed steeple]

What if the faults of each spirit from the season of the little prince represent how each realm fell? Or maybe how the kingdom fell as a whole?

Valley was too full of itself

Vault was too absorbed in the collection and study of knowledge

Wasteland fell into a depression

Forest was too greedy

Prairie was too busy with possibly pointless work

Eden was too controlling

And isle either fell from correlation with the other realms or had already failed by the time the others did.

[crisp socket]

yes! this might also have some connection with the eden gate, because the isle elder's mask is not engraved on the gate, while all others are.

[dusk aurora]

I'm really wondering... If there's this GIGANTIC light bird in the atmosphere or even in Orbit... Where is it then ? Why can't we see it ? It's super gigantic so we should be able to see it. Right ? 🗿

[floral grove]

We can't see it because the place we go to in orbit is a part of it. Just like how in the real world, we can't see the planet Earth because we are on Earth and it is really big

[dusk aurora]

So when we're in Orbit, we're basically on this GIGANTIC bird ? (Or is it SO BIG that it's actually the entire planet ? Since you mentioned Earth)

[floral grove]

Yeah pretty much. I should've used an analogy with the Laniakea Supercluster instead since it's pretty much the real life equivalent of Megabird

[nimble ingot]

Tom Zhao's concept art suggest the creature would be absolutely ginormous.
Possibly something the game may have had trouble implementing back then due to limitations, or possibly scrapped in favour of the ending we got instead.

Either case, it is always possible for the devs and lorewriters to revisit this idea.

[dusk aurora]

Laniakea supercluster.... Gotta check what it is

[dusk aurora]

Oh... Well that kinda looks like Gigabird is the atmosphere (the white and blue colours)

[dusk aurora]

This is one hell of a galactic cluster 💀

[floral grove]

Well so is Megabird

[nimble ingot]

The angle may be a bit difficult to see in the concept art, though it does look like the concept art for the megabird view head on instead of from the side.

[dusk aurora]

Gigabird looks more like a rogue star flying across the cosmos in the second image

[floral grove]

"Human World?" Was the first concept art made back when Sky was supposed to take place on Earth? Like when they planned to have Vault as a downtown instead of a lantern archive that we have now?

[dusk aurora]

Well that would've been understandable since we got the Aurora season. Or even the Little Prince season.

Both humans. (And the Little Prince, not waiting us while we suffer in Eden that bro already flies back to B-61)

[sharp lichen]

Probably, and then “sky world” and “human world” was probably refined to “orbit” and “everything else”

[dusk aurora]

Fair enough

[dusk aurora]

Ayo.... That gives me an idea for my fanproject 🗿

[dusk aurora]

This...
This is an interesting question heh

[floral grove]

They could possibly turn into a black hole too

[dusk aurora]

I'm working on a fanproject called "Sky : Dawn of the Dark", and I imagined the protagonist to be a long unknown ancestor king Resh. The guy being related to King Resh (due to light merging error) is already insane, but giving a certain black hole-like ability would already be overpowered

The project is mainly focused on the actual lore of Sky, and I wanted to add even more for it. Also hugely inspired by the Season of Shattering, as if this was an event that happened thousands of years ago, (1900 years to be exact), and that this one lasted a whole century. And there would be another thing like that, which I imagined to be happening in real time. The other seasons and all are like memories of ancient civilization. And I thought that this time, it would happen today, not as a memory, but as a current event.

[nimble ingot]

There is concept art that shows more of this. (credit: Tom Zhao)

My understanding is the game at one point could have had a meta aspect in terms of the world of sky would be interacting with the real world.
Here are some concept art showing objects and scenes that resemble a city like area.

Most of these concept art revolved around Vault. Back when it was called NIGHT, it seemingly suggested to be something like a night time cityscape skykids would have to fly over. Then the concept art changed to the tower like vault layout that the game adopted and expanded upon.

I am not too sure what this aspect would represent in the lore as this has seemingly been scrapped before Light Awaits (as far as I am aware), while the concept art still remained.
What has remained as a factor is the meta knowledge skykids possess, as well as the Office.
Skykids are a player character that has a role in the story, however the players lend their knowledge, time and skills to the skykids. As skykids make friends, their players are also likely to become friends.

[dusk aurora]

All super looking concept arts 🔥

This is the kind of stuff I'm working on since the past few months.

The first art shows the elder, the Prince, and the King in his corrupted form, all in the Orbit. The second one shows a whole new map called the "Crimson Desert", and a very dark scene (with a whole new and terrifying beast)

[nimble ingot]

(I hope this is refering to your story, and not the game)

[dusk aurora]

My story is a fanproject inspired by the game. And even if I dreamt of it becoming canon, I doubt this scene in the second art would pass.

So yeah, the Titano Krill (it's the name of the krill with these huge crimson horns) is the main antagonist of the project. And it's kind of the overpowered beast that if it dangs you up, it's for real (no turning back to Orbit unless the Titano Krill is defeated)

[dusk aurora]

(fun fact, I made those two arts)

[sharp lichen]

Oh no you don’t-

[dusk aurora]

Imma give the capacity of generating bursts of energy (like with a Gamma Ray Burst) and the capacity to crush lights into a black hole in the fists of the character ! (How to overpower your protagonist)

[kind sun]

I'll ask again

Who were the people of the civilization in the eden mountain seen while returning the light in the section better known as "The eye of the storm"

[nimble ingot]

The Fallen

[sharp lichen]

“The Fallen”, but they look very similar to us

[dusk aurora]

I guess this part is already in the official lore :
"The Fallen" was the civilization that existed before us skykids, and when they've disappeared, or should I say turned into Memories (sort of), it's when Eden erupted for the first time, at the Shattering. (Which in my fanproject is called "the Shadows' Era")

[sharp lichen]

You might be confusing it with “spirits”, who are the blue people we see throughout the Sky world. In just the final part of Eye of Eden, the No return area, there are “fallen” Skykids

[dusk aurora]

Oh. Well, for the Eye of Eden, it's quite obvious. But for the spirits, I thought they might be the spirits of other Fallen people that then became spirits to guide us and... Maybe not commit the mistakes of the past ones.

Perhaps it would be interesting in the Lore

[hushed steeple]

I’ve theorized before that there were multiple batches of sky kids.
We have the first sky kid.
Then the sky kids who came to make the kingdom decently inhabitable again and sacrificed themselves for that(the fallen)
And then there’s us!

I also theorized the prophecy trials were prophecies themselves and the fire trial may give us a look into what it was like for the fallen to try and survive through the immediate post explosion.

I guess you could call the fallen liquidators in a sense if we go by this theory.

[nimble ingot]

Pardong the off topic drop here.

Found out these 'pathmakers' may exist in the lore of sky despite them not present in the game as how they are shown in concept art.

Noting these concept art are set in Dawn and Day, as well as their resemblance to the windpath wind chimes.
While I hope these older dseigns might be considered in a future area, it is nice to know these path makers could be the wind path chimes and wind vanes of the game.

[dusk aurora]

The first Skykid... In the game, the very first spirit we meet is the one indicating the way, isn't it ? Hypothetically, this spirit could be the first Skykid himself

[hushed steeple]

I’m referring to the king/prince.
They potentially are the kid we see fall in one of the spirit memories in isle.
And they are the guy we see do the trials in the prophecy murals.

[dusk aurora]

That's more logical, yeah.

[sharp lichen]

I think so as well, but I will have a caveat that in the lore of Sky, all the spirits have probably already been freed with the earlier Skykids, the only reason they aren’t is to make the gameplay more fun

[dusk aurora]

In my project, I imagined that the King would end up corrupted, and that he is the one who provoked the Shattering, and the beginning of what I call the "Era of the Shadows".

There's a concept art of the Corrupted King that inspired me this. Lemme find it.

[hushed steeple]

Maybe, but what if they weren’t able to get every spirit.
They may have gotten the majority but the sheer pressure from the great risk of the environment is likely to give way to error and a need to leave some behind.

[sharp lichen]

Depends on how many Skykids they were. The batch of Skykids that came to fix things could have come in the dozens, if not hundreds.

[dusk aurora]

Here.

[sharp lichen]

If I had a nickel for every time this image was posted… (no hate or anything it’s just posted a lot)

[dusk aurora]

Probably (simply) because it's more like an official concept art than a casual fan art like some other pics I've found when looking for it.

[hushed steeple]

Yes, very likely. But I theorize they had to rely on one another to keep themselves from dying. And as they continued their numbers likely dwindled more and more. Meaning greater groups of sky kids per spirit, hundreds of not thousands of spirits in the kingdom, and a rapid decreasing in numbers of sky kids which leads to less probability they could save every spirit.

Think of it like going through Eden and constantly losing light starting from the beginning. You won’t save every fallen.

[dusk aurora]

That gives inspiration for some sort of illness.

[hushed steeple]

What kind of illness.

[dusk aurora]

An illness that would make you constant but very slowly make you losing your Light, like with rain or polluted water.

[hushed steeple]

Oh ok

[nimble ingot]

Sounds like getting a shard in your skykid that at first has little to no effect.
Then as time goes on, the skykids starts needing more and more light to stay charged as they use it up more than normal.
Then comes the point where the skykid's once warm golden glow turns a shade of blue and their light starts to dim and go out more often.
And the last stage, the skykid cannot keep their own light going, and even with another skykid holding them to give light, the skykid ends up draining the light of the other.

[hushed steeple]

A disease that slowly kills you then turns you into an insatiable parasite before you die!
BRILLIANT!!!

[kind sun]

whos that

[dusk aurora]

An illness that can be a curse... Ayo...

Sounds like we can call it the Curse of the Black Hole. Since it absorbs the light of all beings very slowly

[hushed steeple]

That is the king/prince

[nimble ingot]

That is what I have in a fanon story.
The illness at the start is called being fragmented.
Then later stages is considered shattered.
And finally, corrupted.

The sad ending is the skykid in the worst stages end up as husks, similar to krill.

[dusk aurora]

Well, remember when I talked about an ability similar to a black hole ?

Instead of being a power, it could be as we said a kind of disease or even a curse !

[dusk aurora]

Kind of what happened to the King. (In my story, I imagined him being corrupted by an entity that granted him power that was beyond the king's comprehension)

[hushed steeple]

For my fan thing, people can be corrupted by an entity of darkness which slowly absorbs its light while giving the host deadly abilities and making them so evil things. Eventually the host stops acting and move normally and starts looking like a puppet being dragged about.

[dusk aurora]

With a friend that helped me with my project, we imagined this sort of thing where skykids are corrupted by the darkness and become what we'd call the Children of Nyx. (The entity's name isn't Nyx, but it's a reference to the Greek diety of Night and Darkness). And that, as the story goes on, there would be more and more. Added to the new Era of the Shadows (another Shattering) and the appearance of the Titano Krill, this is why I imagined the name of the fanproject "Sky : Dawn of the Dark"

[hushed steeple]

Woah, that’s cool.

I’ve decided to try and tear apart my already established narrative while it’s still only in my head because I want to restart a bit with the bones and sorta reboot it.
Even though its only ever been in my head.

[dusk aurora]

Maybe we can work on both projects together, and if possible, merge them to make a whole and potentially superb result with both. Wanna try ?

[hushed steeple]

Maybe, but I can’t guarantee mine since I’ve been not great mentally and struggling with motivation.
I don’t want to make promises I can keep so you go ahead and work on your project!

[dusk aurora]

We can give advices and tips to eachother to develop and improve the projects 🙌

[hushed steeple]

THERES LORE??????

[cold sparrow]

there's so much lore

[dusk aurora]

And fanmade lore inspired by the real lore 🗿

[signal moon]

Hello

[dusk aurora]

Wassup

[dusk aurora]

Was the diamond the very source of Life ? If not, they could've easily avoided the Shattering with just moving it away to an entirely different world

[dusk aurora]

And me who created names for them (but kept Alef and Rest for the Prince and the King) and even improvised last names for the characters of my fanproject

[dusk aurora]

Damn... Does the map specifically has to keep the diamond shape ? Cuz in my fan project, the Crimson Desert goes all the way from edge of the Starlight Desert to Eden, and the Crimson Desert myght also share a bit of place with the Golden Wasteland.

[dusk aurora]

Something like this

[untold notch]

I don't think it does personally

[sharp lichen]

Oh yes, there is, in fact, lore. Do you want to learn it?

[sharp lichen]

I don’t think so, I view the diamond as an artificial creation

[sharp lichen]

Not that we know of. Until more seasonal areas come that prove or disprove it

[dusk aurora]

I already imagined the Crimson Desert to be over there since it's supposed to be where we can see mostly Eden at its closest. (And also where, in my story, the final fight between the Titano Krill and the protagonist, who's name is Andaskreil Damokros)

[dusk aurora]

Well, I have an hypothesis about the next season's location.... But I'll not risk any spoil

[sharp lichen]

You can theorize about information already presented in live, but you can’t use any information acquired from beta

[dusk aurora]

The only info that could be counted as in live is a simple teaser of this summer's season by TGC on YouTube. The rest... is from beta. That's why I ain't gonna say anything else

[rigid prism]

Why are krills? What do they come from?

[sharp lichen]

We know they're corrupted

[rigid prism]

Are they corrupted manta whales like the sanctuary? They look kind of similar

[sharp lichen]

They might be, but they also look like the creature on the Switxh trailer

[rigid prism]

True

[hushed steeple]

I highly doubt the kingdom of sky is actually in the shape of a diamond, this is just how the devs decided to have it presented on the map.

I think the biggest and most notable problem with the map is that isle isn’t aligned with prairie.

[dusk aurora]

That's true. It's not aligned with the Daylight Prairie on the map, but it's literally neighbouring it in the game itself.

[hushed steeple]

And then you get into where you see Eden in each realm compared to where the realms are on the map and it becomes a whole thing.

[keen shore]

Diagonal Vault Haunts My Nightmares

[sharp lichen]

Trust me it’s leaning

[dusk aurora]

Diagonal Vault ????

[sharp lichen]

On the Sky map, Vault is oriented diagonally

In my opinion, it’s a result of distortion when trying to project a spherical world onto a diamond surface

[hushed steeple]

I think that form of distortion would be more accurate than what we’ve got
sips tea
but when questioned in a legal setting just remember that I never said a word.

[lusty merlin]

Wrong channel bud

[dusk aurora]

What in the Krill honk 🗿

Or else it's like someone did arm wrestling on the vertical shape of Vault so it becomes that distorted

[uncut pond]

Vault was built by Italians. That's the only logical explanation

[untold notch]

maybe none of it is real

[keen shore]

Please no we can’t do Sky Italy again

[marble lynx]

Otherwise pineapple pizza never exist

[hushed steeple]

The Leaning Vault of Focaccia!!!

[hushed steeple]

YES

Dm me it

[violet sundial]

HELP vault elder spaghetti monster

[tight night]

So it’s Kingdom Hearts? 😆

[fallen root]

🕊 NO STOP NOW I CAN'T UNSEE VAULT HOLDING OUT A PLATE OF PASTA BYE 😭

[drowsy flare]

Me as well please

[jaunty cove]

Can I discuss about the content of next season here

[crisp socket]

We need a lore discussion with season spoilers as a seperate channel

[nimble ingot]

That would be the #beta-season-test-chat , I think?

[round parrot]

I believe that lore that is in the beta is not reliable as anything could change in beta, so I don't think that a separate channel for that would be pointless tbh

[timid dirge]

this question might be a little dumb but i just finished the last aurora quest at the GW and i have alot of questions in my head. but most important one is, why was she at the GW during the war? i mean, she didnt look like she was one of the soilders. but she i cant xeactly see why she was there if she's just a traveller either

[hushed steeple]

It’s possible that AURORA is related to the light/mega bird.
Now, whether she is the light or just representing the light I’m not sure.

I’m certain someone else could answer this better than I can.

[hushed steeple]

Have you seen the AURORA concert yet by any chance?

[nimble ingot]

You are not dumb, you are curious.

Suppose the lyrics of the song gives context with it being about seeds of hope, plants trying to survive in a harsh environment, and the world falling apart due to greed (money that may represent power in Sky).

Aurora represents the Light in the concert. Which could be the essence of Megabird.
Perhaps the season's message is trying to convey how with the ancestors fighting, the Light in them was being hurt/corrupted by the darkness fuelling the war.
And when the war was over, there was only darkness and death. And with it, the loss of the Light.

If you have not been able to see the concert. Feel free to ask in the server ( #looking-for-group-live ) or your friends for help getting access when one starts up.
Since the season ended, players who have not purchases the golden wings from the season (an in-app-purchase) are unfortunately not able to access them without a player who does.

The concert would give more context for the quests you have completed.

[sharp lichen]

She wasn’t physically there, instead the “seed of Hope” spirit was

[timid dirge]

well, i havent even visited the valley collesium yet since im feeling a little lazy. but i'm really tempted to join it after finding someone with the cape

[timid dirge]

ooh i see, i think i didnt pay much attention to the lyrics since i was struggling to keep my sky kid in the bubble -the joystick goes crazy sometimes since my screen is cracked

this sure gives alot of info about the lore, so the reason why the kingdom fell apart is greed probably anyways thanks for the answer

[modest totem]

Was observing Megabird while being reborn; what does everyone think Megabird’s place is in the sky world and the lost culture of the spirits?

[sharp lichen]

It was probably not very known to the spirits, the only places we find it is in the murals of the Forgotten Ark and maybe the symbol

[waxen vigil]

we also see it in the portal to office but idk how canon that entire space is

if office is canon i think that just tells us that the skykids could theoretically survive/get to any universe provided they have the means to get there
but i love stuff like that, might be a tad bit biased

[lusty merlin]

i like to think since spirits are shown to be able to descend back to the world would mean what happens after death is known to ancestors, and in extension megabird's existence. Instead of them portrayed as a sort of mysterious god that would've been worshipped, they could've been them more as just another part of the cycle that exists.
weird analogy: But we know we orbit around the sun, we accept thats just how it is without giving it more thought, it's just how things are. Some people are more invested of that fact, but not all if that makes sense.

Many just accept megabird is there, and thats that, and others would go as far acknowledge them in differnt forms like murals ect imo

[nimble ingot]

Would it be possible for the ceremonial worshipper spirit in Day be a follower of the Light, and thus Megabird?
Mostly because of the spirit's gesture to the sky, the use of candles to activate the memory of the ancestor(s), and the resulting emote is a candle with its lighting shining brighter as more lights join in.

[hushed steeple]

It also has that beam of light you see come from the center when you move far enough away.

Not talking about the one from days of color

[hushed steeple]

It has been more than four hours since Lore-Discussions-Spoilers has gone silent and several are worried many have been krilled.

“Honestly, they weren’t even good at what they did.” One spirit said.

Nobody has heard of them since the interview….

For some more positive news, Isle elder has decided to share baby photos of the king. Unfortunately, they are all coincidentally stained with sand and grass making it near impossible to make out any of the pictures.
Isle elder has also coincidentally forgotten a majority of the pictures’ stories.

“There is nothing good left in this kingdom, please leave I wish to not be tormented by wailing children who are upset because stagehand got the color of minor details slightly off. They are a little colorblind and are still a better artist than you.” Performance guide says.

This has been your local lore channel news broadcasting channel 777 news channel on one of the channels available as a channel on your weird tv with channels that has over 24 channels.

Wait!
IS THAT THE KING OVER THERE!!!!!!
👈 🤌

[hushed steeple]

/J

[modest totem]

XD

[sharp lichen]

This was what caused the war... the olive garden wedding angered vault so much 💔

[hushed steeple]

The Great War of Risotto and Ossobuco!!!!

[tender rock]

Hey y'all guys ever wondered how many wls you could get without entering any door or opening, like an opening of a cave? I've thought about it, and it's 4. 4, may or may not have been just some random number of wls there or count, in Chinese culture the number 4 is unlucky (as also mention in that red panda movie). Wanna guess or know which place of Sky has 4 wls you can get without entering an opening? The graveyard in Golden Wasteland
And in both japanese and chinese cultures, 4 is associated with death

[hushed steeple]

I think if you were to start off as a moth it would be 0 since you have to enter through a portal and then through a cave/tunnel to even begin the game.

[sharp lichen]

1. Flying above the very first Isle cave

2. The standard one

3. Fly above/around the first barrier

Wait, does the Isle-Prairie transition count as an opening??

[hushed steeple]

OH NO!!!!
I THINK IT DOES!!!!

Wait, would a realm portal count as an entrance?

[sharp lichen]

Oh my…

[hushed steeple]

Is this the Sky equivalent of tariffs or something?

I don’t think this server likes the free grammar browser extension.
It keeps blocking my messages when I try making a funny sky ad with it.

[tight night]

I see the AURORA season quests as reliving the memories of the 4 spirits that accompanied her during the season. Each spirit’s emote/tree was accessed after completing the quest that relates to them.

I think we see each spirit when experiencing the musical quests and see the images presented.

The AURORA concert also implies that these quests/scenes/songs are all based on each spirit’s memories and experiences, and gives more context to the stories shown in the individual quests.

[hushed steeple]

….Was I not meant to do the spirits out of order?/j

[tight night]

Regardless of this being a joke; I don’t think the order matters? I feel like the scene we see in the water aurora quest (first one), could either represent a pilgrimage, or (based on my initial thoughts at the time) the refugees that were running away from the war.

I think it’s possible to interpret each quest individually, since the four spirits all seemed to live different lives from one another.

[hushed steeple]

It has been nearly two hour-

/J

[rigid prism]

[viral bay]

4 winged lights in forest brook as well

[tender rock]

Oh I was talking about wls you can get without entering an opening, of let's say a cave, or an opening of a room, like passing through doors

[sharp lichen]

I count three, or possibly zero if you count realm portals as doors

[crude echo]

4. the mountain with the cake

[sharp lichen]

But that one has a cave entrance

[crude echo]

No? Just a tunnel

[sharp lichen]

I will say these rules are quite vague. Does it mean only being outside?

[crude echo]

and you can fly up to it with the cloud recharge

[tender rock]

Hmm, sort of yes. And to be honest, I was speaking particularly of those that are in the gw's graveyard, and as I said, it may have been a reference to Chinese or Japanese culture, as 4 in those cultures, it's either unlucky or is associated with death, which the graveyard is, land of the dead, there's skulls, rib cages in there

[hushed steeple]

Ok, but how do we know what we’re collecting is ACTUALLY a winged light?
What if we’ve been imagining things or we’ve been misinformed?
WHAT IF EVERYTHING IS A WINGED LIGHT!!!!!!
AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH/j

[crisp socket]

Prince pieces

[hushed steeple]

I was making a joke similar to the bucket gag from the Stanley parable./lh

[native galleon]

i wrote like a whole essay in response to the previous convo about the order of the aurora quests, but even though i shortened it so there wouldn’t be a negative character count, it still said it was too long. so you’ve been spared for now hehe

basically blah blah the spirit memories can stand on their own but together in order they tell the story of the kingdom’s rise and fall which is neat

[glad galleon]

The Forbidden Diamond
a summary of the Eye of Eden

(not my voice) (pls credit if you'll use the audio!)

[hushed steeple]

Do you think if the kingdom of sky didn’t completely fail that they would’ve had the internet pretty soon after the time they would have failed?

My opinion is yes.

[soft timber]

Yes, they already have other means of communication, such as mail, diamonds containing info or messages, and even possibly some kind of phone like device (like something that works like a phone)

[sturdy wyvern]

It depends, the world is magic after all.

If anything it could have already been invented in vault, but it simply wasn’t at a large enough scale to be all that useful.

[hushed steeple]

I don’t think the world is necessarily magic, I think it just has different laws of how things work when compared to our world.
In fact, I bet the ancestors would look at our world and be a bit confused./lh

[marble lynx]

I need a document for this transcript

[sturdy wyvern]

If we want to get technical here, magic is just science that isn’t understood, so our world would be magical to them, and their world is magical to us.

||also with how little we know about darkstone and colored light it might as well be magic||

[hushed steeple]

I think the best way I can describe the difference in a world building way from my own experience is magic just happens, it comes from nowhere, does stuff just because, and can often have very loose rules.
Where as a law of nature or just different physics is more grounded, it requires resources and development. It has stricter limitations.

For Sky they don’t make stuff out of nothing. We see time and time again that they harvest materials, they use the abilities they have and other creatures have to full use. Their “magic” is just abilities they have because of the different colored lights which are considered a resource.
We can even see their development just by looking at the progression of transportation. They initially used creatures of light to pull their boats but eventually discovered how to harness the power of diamonds to automate their boats.

So while their world definitely looks magical and would be closer to magic for us, it isn’t exactly magic.

[glad galleon]

hope yall enjoy it lol i rly love sky lore
let me know if there are inaccuracies!

[keen shore]

Gonna drop in here quickly to note the difference between “hard” and “soft” magic systems where soft ones aren’t fully explained and hard ones are given intricate explanations that fit with the world

[sharp lichen]

Peeking Postman delivering 500 shared memories to the Wasteland temple

[marble lynx]

any examples?

I didn't get it

[sharp lichen]

To use Sky as an example,

“Hard” magic system is where the rules are explained in detail. An example is Skykid’s flight. It is magical, but it has clear rules on where it can fly, and what recharges it, and there are lots of specific details.

Soft magic has very little or no defined rules. An example for Sky is the colored lights, which are often seen in many different ways and so many different things, with little explanation.

[hushed steeple]

Ack! I forgot about this!
I will now go shove my ears full of music and forget I ever existed here within the past few hours!/j

In all actuality I’m more of a self taught world builder so I’m not very knowledgeable on terms.

Moral of the situation never quote me on anything!/j

[marble lynx]

/j?

[hushed steeple]

It stands for joking

[hushed steeple]

The internet was not made in Vault as Vault elder saw nothing wrong with this…
Literally, they’ve been inside the vault for over a month now, people are getting worried!

The internet was actually first conceived as an idea in Isle!

After they were rejected from the kingdom…..
/j

I wonder what day dream forester is thinking about while looking at that flower in the final quest of the current season.

[hushed steeple]

wait……
I just realized that I saw confetti cousin in the third quest of the season……

I need to go check something real quick!!!

Edit: Couldn’t get up to them but from the look of the texture I think it’s just them as they are normally in prairie.

[glossy pollen]

Why is the Eden called like that when it looks like H£ll?

[cold sparrow]

because that was likely the name of either the castle or the kingdom as a whole before the disaster

[nimble ingot]

It may be a reference to the Garden of Eden, a place fabled to be a paradise. But given its state, it has been corrupted.
Eden was formerly called Storm, which compliments ther chaotic and dangerous storm.

[glossy pollen]

That is actually interesting. Thank you

[nimble ingot]

no worries.

[hushed steeple]

In our world there was said to be Adam and Eve.
In their world there was Childish Caretaker, Heroic Forager, Anti-Social Alchemist, Drowsy Architect, the Beginning-of-Life Guide, and Continent of Daylight Savings Elder!!!!!

[nimble ingot]

#fanon lore

[marble lynx]

I guess...in their world could be the prince and the elders...(not-so-fanon?)

[nimble ingot]

hmmmm... the first child and the first elder?

Mostly just fanon...

[marble lynx]

if the devs don't tell, we never know

[hushed steeple]

The devs will only ever tell us something when the world is ending.

[marble lynx]

but not exactly everything

[nimble ingot]

What the light awaits lore once had, but did not get to finish, like it.
There is a story here that is all but forgotten and left untold.
While us skykids are left to pick up the pieces.
Waiting, hoping, determined to save the ancestors.

[hushed steeple]

Right!
Only what color and size the king’s shoes were
Their favorite bedtime story
What they ate 3.546 hours before their birthday
And their age

I want to someday look through all the old concept arts and compile my own fan version of Sky on a doc or something and then make a sort of showcase of it on YouTube or something cause there is ALOT of interesting concept art that we all wish made it into the game.

[nimble ingot]

There is no time like the present.
Who is to say you cannot start with it in your free time?
A note here, a plan there, see how you go and consider how you would like to do this.

[hushed steeple]

Maybe, but I am in a dark place in my life right now. Darker than wasteland and/or Eden. Motivation is a real struggle and I have some other projects I’ve been working on. Don’t wanna over do it.

Imma go attempt the last passage quest real quick.

[nimble ingot]

Fair.
Just remember that no matter how small your progress would seem, how your effort may seem like it is going nowhere.
Great mountains exist because of the many stones at it its base. A magnificent tree was but a mere sapling when it first grew.
A person who achieves great success in their lives started their journey with humble beginnings.

Good luck with the passage quest, and I do hope you have a good day/evening.

[sharp lichen]

Welcome to pain

[lost rain]

omg so much grammar in this channel

[hushed steeple]

There's so much to read here I prefer gen chat bye bye

[sharp lichen]

Rainbow, 3 kid’s, The Ugly Duckling, some fried manta, and 2

[quasi turtle]

There's something behind this

[lusty merlin]

Concept art development

[hushed steeple]

I heard a frog in hidden forest during the last quest.
SO WHERE ARE THEY HIDING!!!!

[sharp lichen]

Within the confines of too big to be an environmental passive thing like dust and too small to be a full-fledged creature

[cobalt palm]

Skyshop dropping hot lore again

implying the prophecy does apply to us

[hushed steeple]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
MY LITTLE AMPHIBIAN FRIENDS!!!!!!!!!

[sharp lichen]

I PREDICTED THIS

[cobalt palm]

Isle elder when skykids arrive "Called it! You owe me 5 candles!"

[sharp lichen]

This implies there was more than one prophecy

Either that, or the original prophecy applied to us

[hushed steeple]

Valley elders “Why would even make a bet with them LOL they literally have like a majority of our prophets LLLOOOOOOLLLLLL!!!!!!!”

[sharp lichen]

And “return”, implying that this is not the first time we’ve been here

[cobalt palm]

Meanwhile forest: think of all the darkstone I can ship with that bet! 🤑

[nimble ingot]

suppose the person the elder had the bet with, did not take the loss that well. XD
Their poor mask supposedly also did not take the hit that well either.

[hushed steeple]

Vault begrudgingly searches entire tower for some candles

[cobalt palm]

Oooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh big brain! I didn't catch that!
So we could be the reincarnation of the Prince after all (not the little one, the other one)

[keen shore]

OH YEAH those lines are from the isle pin poem; I remember them as the first evidence that sky kids ‘returned’! The newest intro & sky’s PC steam page also says this

[hushed steeple]

Or it could be referring to the fallen who attempted to save the kingdom long ago.

[nimble ingot]

Perhaps when the children left, the dawn elder prophesised them being reborn.
Even though it would have taken a long time for that to happen.

[keen shore]

Like so

[cobalt palm]

This line?

Wake, Child, and remember...

Because personally I could read that as recount the spirits memories as well as remember yourself

Edit: I must have missed the return line from the intro candles I need to go back to isle

[sharp lichen]

It could be a dual meaning- “remember” meaning both the spirits and your own self

[keen shore]

With the same thing stated in the intro it could be both for sure

[pallid dust]

Is it possible to add two children of light in the last task of the crystal to this discussion?

[hushed steeple]

What if there were more sky kids who fell soon after the prince fell. These ones were us and we once lived alongside the ancestors.
And then we could speculate that maybe we were once the fallen. The sky kids attempted to save the kingdom once the diamond blew up but we had sacrificed our lives for it. This caused us to forget who we were and fall asleep for a very long time after ascension.

[hushed steeple]

I don’t think us having been the fallen actually works now that I think about it.

Ok, what if the child from the upcoming sky series is a sky child.
They seem to have an affinity for nature and especially creatures of light. In fact they get along incredibly well. And the reason they may not have a cape is because there is no winged light for them to collect.

[pallid dust]

I'm still holding on to the idea that it could be a prince, but your theory isn't that bad.

And my brain exploded in theory, after I remembered the two children of light in the crystal. But I'm not sure how healthy she is

[sharp lichen]

"healthy?" they are completely dead

[sharp lichen]

I have a theory that they're the light of the Prince, in their final moments

[pallid dust]

Yes, I also have such thoughts, but why are there two of them then? I remember that this has already been discussed here (why there are two of them). But what if we look at it from the side of what we now assume about our return, well, everything that happened after the SkyShop tweet

[sharp lichen]

I think it's supposed to resemble our hugging scene in the Eye of Eden

[pallid dust]

Quite possible. It's just that some of my theories sound rather strange.

[hushed steeple]

Did anyone know about the 2 hours long Gnomon video for Sky?

It was made 3 years ago

[nimble ingot]

I recall something like it, hold on

update, yup.
I cannot link to the video though, sadly. (the bot ate it)

[hushed steeple]

It’s titled Art of Sky Children of the Light

Sky was apparently in development for SEVEN YEARS!!!
Which isn’t unheard of for games, but for a mobile game that was such a small size to begin with?
That shows how much detail went into the entire thing.

Unless I’m over exaggerating this.

Ok, imma watch the video later. For now I’ve gotta try to eat with a half numbed mouth and not destroy my tool for nutrients acquiring.

[nimble ingot]

Given that Journey had less time in development.
That certainly suggests how much work, and lore, TGC would have put into this project.

Also, oof 💀
Hope you get well soon.

[hushed steeple]

It’s just dentist anesthetics.

[hushed steeple]

After the final passage quest there is a depiction of all the passage spirits with us and we’re all holding hands!
I just think it’s cute!

[hushed steeple]

So I found a lot of interesting things while going through concept art.
One of them seemed to depict an idea of sky kids being able to become either a human, a light creature, or an elder.

[sharp lichen]

This might relate to the process of reincarnation in Orbit

[hushed steeple]

Probably.

But hey, look at this boat!
It’s a reeeaaaaalllllyyyyy nice boat.

[sharp lichen]

TURTLE BOAT

[hushed steeple]

I think it looks more like those fish that have massive mouths. I can’t remember the name of them but the can fit fish far bigger than them in it.

[sharp lichen]

Anglerfish?

[hushed steeple]

No, give me a minute

HERE WE GO!!!
The gulper eel!!!

Here’s a gif to give you a better connection of the resemblance to the boat

[pastel brook]

I tried bribing krill with peas once... it didn't work

Did you hear that? It sounded like... wait, a moth?

[hushed steeple]

oh no!!!
THE BOBBIT WORMS HAVE RETURNED!!!!!!

[tawdry vale]

i don't know if i should be confused, curious, or just plain scared.... eels are weird

[abstract quail]

Does anyone know anything about the eden elder?

Sorry about the low quality

[cold sparrow]

What we know about the Eden elder is that this boss fight has been scrapped
Everything else is speculation

[drowsy flare]

Can someone send the whole lore of sky? I understand there's a LOT but whatever you can fit to explain the whole story and it's past and about the darkness, much appreciated<33

[abstract quail]

Oh and one q
Is it that the valley twins were 1 elder split?
Both seem to have one eye and a single stone split into 2 in their temple

[hushed steeple]

I believe they’re just twins as this is how the valley elders were portrayed in the vault murals.
Now the real question is whether the ones we see are the original valley elders.

[cold sparrow]

I know someone in this channel has even written a fanfic about the valley twins being two halves of the same
they're at the very least definitely acting as a single elder

[hushed steeple]

MASK THEORY 13.6.2023

So here is something I realised just now. Despite masks being so prevelant in the culture and cosmetics of sky, a lot of the comman place spirits dont seam to have them

Of course the elders and (I think), all the seasonal spirits have masks, but they arent your basic everyday avarage jo anceaters, are they

And then there is this other observation.
In the colloseum, the ancester that performed the slide just right has a mask, while the one that failed from the start does not
That cant be a total coincedence

There is probably a lot more that Im missing here, and a lot that has to be analysed and deacused yet, but I cant help but feel that there must me something more to this

That masks might not be a fully compulsary thing for the ancesters, but had social segnificants, something that you eather earn through your deads, or gain by being part of a specific group or organisation or position

With all that we sow in the curent season, there might be something that deserves looking in to

[sharp lichen]

The Eden Elder is an incredibly mysterious and borderline unknown character in the Sky world. Although we can make theories, it’s impossible to truly know. The only fact we know is that they’re “no longer around.”

The most prevalent theories include them being the golden child we see in the Prophecy murals, the child seen in Ushering Stargazer’s memories, or present in the final Shartering memory

[sharp lichen]

This might help! https://docs.google.com/document/d/12XSkaMV_5UYG-an_Qo37ItyKP6GaqBBA6iRqBVE2qck/edit

[round parrot]

I really like how you put your mask theory across! And yes, I do believe that the passage masks are something to be looked into (i seriously can't think of anything with them, they seem separated from the other masks we commonly see in the kingdom)

[hushed steeple]

Another thing about the masks is that nearly all the normal, seasonless, non-event masks are nearly identical to the masks of elders. We’ve got the boat mask in Isle, the jar mask in Prairie, diamond in Forest, etc.
However, a few masks don’t follow this rule, and it’s especially curious in Valley as there is no mask the comes anywhere close to the Valley elders’ masks.
Instead we get two different masks on two spirits with somewhat similar hair.
In fact their hair is quite similar to the hair of valley elders in their mural in vault!
So either the valley elders decided to change their styles or we’re looking at two sets of valley elders!

I know there are some people who remember this theory from a while ago.

[hushed steeple]

Maybe there were once multiple people who would make masks for people and maybe some of them guided children into adulthood like the passage guide.
And since there are multiple people making masks there would be several different styles.
For the passage guide they liked to carve masks out of wood in cool ways!

[round parrot]

Oooo yes! The elder masks we currently have also matches these base-game masks!

[sharp lichen]

Yeah, there’s quite some examples I’ve thought about that fit this:

-Prophets having masks, while their children don’t

-Dreams skater starts off without a mask, but gains it overtime

-Passage, with children gaining masks the more they complete the lessons.

And, notably, every Skykid starts off with their own mask. This shows how they’ve learned from the Ancestors and made a society where everyone is treated equally

[sharp lichen]

For the Valley Elders, I think they could’ve changed their style, similar to how the Wasteland Elder shows different shields

[round parrot]

But what would explain their sentience? Like they move and levitate on their own and they seem to have their own nature

[sharp lichen]

I thought it was the Passage Guide controlling them?

[sturdy wyvern]

I mean we do see the passage guide using colored light

[hushed steeple]

Maybe these people had special abilities like the prophets?

[round parrot]

It would make sense for most of them... the raccoon mask however seems to be more of a troublemaker type, and I don't personally see the Passage Guide to control a mask to cause trouble (unless it's some sort of secret hobby and they're being a silly hypocrite towards Tumbling Troublemaker )

[round parrot]

True... but blue light to summon the masks?
I agree with the use of colored lights here but it's sort of on shaky ground with the aspect I stated

[sturdy wyvern]

It seems that the mask being a troublemaker was all part of the plan, as them messing up the light stream is what begins the next passage in the first place, and it doesn’t seem like there was anything else planned

[round parrot]

That could be the case, but these abilities are far apart from the ones we have seen so far up until this point (could just be me, however)

[hushed steeple]

For all we know passage guide could’ve had the guardians of those children possess the masks!!!/j

[sharp lichen]

I don’t know either, but we do see them using orange light to create flares

[hushed steeple]

What if the passage guide was in a position where they worked closer with the elders. Culturally, the passage guide plays a very crucial role in the kingdom, same with the prophets. And we know from flight that ancestors could take lessons directly from the elders!

[crisp socket]

So I looked at the discussion about masks before, and here is my take on it.

In order for the children that the passage guide taught to rise in status (as we see demonstrated that social status was connected to masks somehow), the children would need to finish some quests which addressed their faults.

The masks probably were not sentient on their own, but actually controlled by the passage guide as a setup for the quests the children had to embark on.

[hushed steeple]

This is making me think of baptism

More of a right of pasage that most cultures and religons have
This things come in all kinds of forms depending on the age culture, so this is probably the sky version of it

[lusty merlin]

Funfact but they also have prosthetic arms too on where their missing eyes are! And in orbit after completing their constellation their name is Elder of The Valley and not Elders.

So I think the question and idea being split is intentional, yet whenever it happened when they first fell or later is unknown. For me personally I like to think it was when they first fell but it comes down to preference

[hushed steeple]

I think you're probably right about this☺️

Its posible that much light how many indentical twins start out as one egg that splits into 2 dureing the development in the embrio, the Valley spirits started out as one star in its developmant in the heavens, but manefested in 2 bodys when incarnating on earth

[lusty merlin]

I like to think that happens too! Like to imagine they hit the ground to early and didn’t have enough time to properly split to explain their missing eye and arm. I go back and fourth on their leg also being a prosthetic yet i don’t notice any stark differences

[hushed steeple]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Very probably

[lusty merlin]

lil offtopic but I also deeply appreciate they’re not direct copies of another with their body types, movement, and a lot more. Like it’s not the trope of identical twins being in complete sync when speaking or acting as a mirror

Sorry I have many feelings about them both

[hushed steeple]

Where are the smallest, youngest darkness plants, which also happen to be unburnable?

What is the Ancient Power that you discover in Hidden Forest?

Name two locations that have Isle of Dawn staves in storage.

[lusty merlin]

I think the ones you can’t burn are in that tunnel exhausted dockworkers memory ends

I guess the giant door after forest elders cutscene would be it? That’s all I can think of

Don’t know what you mean about staves in storage though

But you can also look at the world and come to your own conclusion

[cold sparrow]

Is this a deep lore quiz or meant to be a discussion

[sturdy wyvern]

I have no idea but that did give me an idea for a sky based jeopardy

[tepid veldt]

somehow i feel like ive already done something like that i think it was sky monopoly? never finished it but it was fun to think about

[crisp socket]

This is interesting. It’s very possible that the valley elders are Siamese twins- that is, conjoined at birth. This would explain the ensign on the top of the valley gate and the fact that they have missing arms.

[lusty merlin]

I don’t think they were conjoined at birth. Mainly because is shown to have an ear on the side their missing eye is. If they were conjoined then it would’ve have to been head to shoulder from the missing eye and arm. But because of the ear it implies both twins heads were fully formed. Just not their eye and arm for whatever reason

I’m positive also has both ears behind their hair also yet I don’t have any photos to prove it

[native galleon]

shartering

[balmy spoke]

Lol, I see that too
Turns out, the Diamond was just a leaky pipe all along

[untold notch]

I think you need to diversify your samekh portfolio /teasing

[native galleon]

As if they don’t already have enough material

[untold notch]

they do, but only of sah

[lusty merlin]

HELP I HAVE SOME OF MEKH TO

[tepid veldt]

i need proof plz 1500 photos of mekh or i dont believe /j

[lusty merlin]

I have

4💀 all with Sah involved

TO BE FAIR I cleaned out my camera roll recently so that’s to blame

[keen shore]

RIP Mekh lover 3000 you live on in my heart

[lusty merlin]

THAT WAS FOR APRIL FOOLS

[native galleon]

wheres the cat meme thats like i dont like him

[abstract quail]

when sky kids take their masks off their eyes are closed and have no light
but this seems to not apply to spirits
the no mask cosmetic is also treated as its own mask and given by a specific spirit but that could just be gameplay reasons

[hushed steeple]

well, not exactly
If you look really really close, you can see a faint yellow on there eyelids, so I wouldent say they dont have light

I do think that this is a gameplay thing, as TGS wants the skykids to be representative of all players with no enphasis on skin colour, gender or features, so we always have a mask or hair style that is available to everyone, while whats underneath is a blank slate

[abstract quail]

ooh
thanks for answering my question
but is there any other similar importance for any other cosmetics in sky lore or is it just masks?
Capes may have a use but why would spirits even need them?

[sturdy wyvern]

because 🌟poncho🌟

[tranquil quiver]

Remember when the Ushering Stargazer found that random child in her memory? Do all Sky children just spawn in random places?

[keen shore]

Yeah pretty much

[nimble ingot]

During season of performance, there were some mentions in the stagehand's script that references falling stars in Dawn.
Where some of the stars would dim and die out, some would fall and shatter, others fall and become motes, and some would become children.

[keen shore]

If you want to be pedantic about it they fall from the sky (the star Stargazer saw is what turned into the kid) but the results are functionally the same.

We have no idea yet if this was also true for ancestor kids but the answer is probably not given the level of shock stargazer and voyager had over random child appearance

[lusty merlin]

Could just be more of a norm in fashion, like how there’s decorative masks to express oneself. Capes in sky could just be the same as just wearing a hat because why not

[sharp lichen]

Maybe the “no mask” actually is just an invisible mask

[abstract quail]

so sky kids close their eyes when they wear their mask?
yet we can still see their eyes glowing in the visible masks?

[sharp lichen]

Perhaps the “no-mask” makes their eyes invisible

[native galleon]

this is literally what i thought sneaky survivor’s deal was at first, wearing a mask that covers all the light as to not be a target. then i saw that it was actually not from them but some other spirit in valley and i was extremely confused

[frigid tinsel]

A lot of Valley spirits don’t wear masks and they’re mostly the athletes. Perhaps they don’t wear masks during competition so it’s easier to breathe and/or see? Could be the same for many of the soldiers and survivors we see traversing treacherous terrain that requires some exertion to pass through. That or they lost their masks in the barrens of the Wasteland

[native galleon]

Ooh yeah didn’t they say the valley elders had simple masks with no headpiece bc they’re athletes and it’s more comfortable? and for ancestors idk if the masks would be difficult to breathe or see through, otherwise they wouldn’t be so normalized, but maybe it gave just a slight competitive edge and some preferred not to wear them

[austere dagger]

Who’s the king and prince?

[native galleon]

then again i can see some sports and certainly military exercises requiring masks for safety purposes, like anything resembling combat almost

[sharp lichen]

The King is an incredibly mysterious and borderline unknown character in the Sky world. Although we can make theories, it’s impossible to truly know. The only fact we know is that they’re “no longer around.”

The most prevalent theories include them being the golden child we see in the Prophecy murals, the child seen in Ushering Stargazer’s memories, or the figure seen in the Eye of Eden mural.

[austere dagger]

Thanks for the info, need it for a thing ^^

[hushed steeple]

Do you just have that on hand for a copy paste or do you have to rewrite it each time?

[sharp lichen]

A… thing?

[austere dagger]

Ye like this silly book

[hushed steeple]

What are objects and why are they permanent!!!

[sharp lichen]

I copy it, but I like to change some things up

[hushed steeple]

Define permanent.

[hushed steeple]

AAAAAHHHHHHGFSGHHCJLIFWQXVJ
I DONT KNOWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!
/j

[hushed steeple]

Exactly.

[hushed steeple]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[hushed steeple]

the experience of impermanence sounds like this at times.

[keen shore]

Going to add we know they were most likely a skykid ^^

[drowsy flare]

Thanks! Idk if you remember but youve already sent me this xD It's obviously a great document and I love it but it doesn't really dive deep (ik it's hard to write everything about everything but yk maybe get super into one topic or smth) I rlly appreciate this tho tysm

[hushed steeple]

I think what makes it really hard to do that is the fact that most things aren’t really confirmed and a lot is up to interpretation./lh

[drowsy flare]

Ik and I totally get that but reading a million messages is kinda tiring but I love lore so much I've literally spent days researching about game lore, I tried looking for a good big essay on backstories and stuff but I can't find anyplace good

[sharp lichen]

We’ve spent years as well

[hushed steeple]

The true lore mystery is how this game hasn’t yet caught the eye of bigger content creators!

[lavish pivot]

agreed, like so many game theory videos could be made

[hushed steeple]

My one worry about that is that he’ll just be like
“SKY KIDS WERE MADE BY HUMANS FROM SPACE!!!”
Or
“ITS ALL IN THE MIND OF A HUMAN CHILD!!!”

Maybe this is a little farfetched
Maybe I’m being irrational
But we got the ness is sans thing so.

Edit: I’m not saying he’s not welcome to theorize, I just really don’t like misinformation spreading or something.
I feel like he could at least come here.

[hushed steeple]

I’m probably just worrying too much or something.

[sharp lichen]

You’re worrying the right amount, I’d say. Although I’m absolutely welcome to see larger content creators analyze or play Sky in a meaningful way (we already saw this with Sad-ist), Matpat’s videos are too short and jump to conclusions too much.

[hushed steeple]

Ok!
I’m still gonna try to keep an open mind. But that would definitely absolutely wither and cronch on Sky’s lore like a fall leaf!

[cold sparrow]

True, true.
But I'd love Austin/ShoddyCast to try and analyze stuff like the velocity of a Skykid lmao

[sharp lichen]

Already done:

Flying speed: About 20 mph

Running speed: 7.7 MPH

Run hopping: 10.5 MPH (4.7 meters per second)

[keen shore]

I can try to do a brief summary of my interpretation of everything; if you don’t mind me asking, how much do you already know? do I need to explain stuff like darkstone or season of prophecy or are you already familiar?

[cold sparrow]

what about the mass of a skykid?
the gravity of the sky kingdom?

[hushed steeple]

What about the types of minerals in a sky kids body and their exact concentrations?

What about their carbon dating?

What about the average number of bugs with two red feet on them?

[clever fiber]

personally, I think touching glowing ethereal children is a dangerous precident, I'd keep my distance from them!

[sharp lichen]

I spent THREE FULL DAYS trying to solve that, only to have my results lead to the gravity being 1/1000th the normal world, and an actual physics expert saying everything I did was wrong

[crisp socket]

What could a skykids cape made out of, other than light?
Could some fabric behave in that of a typical moth cape, but immediately stiffen so much as to support weight and generate significant air resistance?

[sharp lichen]

I think it is more light based than physical, since we receive them when we get the first winged light

[hushed steeple]

I believe they’re speaking hypothetically.
If the capes hypothetically weren’t made of light what material do you think they would be made of?

[sharp lichen]

I know very little about fabrics, but the designs seem to resemble that of simple cloth, though the more elaborate ones might be made of animal parts such as wool

[hushed steeple]

I’d think something like Lego cape material

[rigid prism]

The gravity is different in different places like citadel vs isle

[sharp lichen]

That might just be updrafts

[rigid prism]

Yeah I keep wondering about that but still haven’t come to a conclusion

[sharp lichen]

Skykids are just aerodynamic, like paper flying in the wind, so stronger upward winds make them more floaty

[past pollen]

the same thing that batmans cape is made from i recon

[mental shard]

wind trials a proof of that ngl.

[hushed steeple]

Good queation
Although one of the main universal uses for light energy is lavitation and flight, so that has to be taken into acount when doing these calculation, or else it would apear that we all weigh hardly anything, or that sky has hardly any graviry at all😅

[hushed steeple]

I think its like 90%+ carbon, since we dont seam to need water to survive and function😅

[hushed steeple]

It could also be cotton based.
You dont know what light energy might do to cotton in this world😂

[hollow turtle]

hey! i haven't been active in this chat since... Season of Abyss. Has there been something "new", because I feel the main topic is usually the King and the Prince. Is there any new theories or lore discoverement done for example about Season of Remembrance?

[hushed steeple]

Well....quite a lot actually😅

I can send you to the last big lore descusion that is tangentually related to the curent season if you like😅

[hollow turtle]

yes please!

[hushed steeple]

Here starts a deacusion about masks

[hushed steeple]

And here is a fun short one about the nature of the Valley elder/elders

I would send you more but Im haveing trubble folowing all of it myself
Maby later I can send you more

[cold sparrow]

could probably make some calculations based on how plushies can fall

[drowsy flare]

could someone explain the prince and what the prince did in detail pls? much appreciated

[hushed steeple]

(This would be much easyer if I had acces to all the pics on my computer...but here we go😅)

OUT OF GAME EXPLANATION

The Prince ( and by extention the King) was a very inportant and long lasting character in the developing lore of the game from before the beta release

He is not however directly shown in the curent game, and it is posible that he was removed all together, however Remnents and references to him existing are found all over sky if you really know where to look for him, so most of us lore lovers still belive that he is a thing in sky and love to theorize about him

[hushed steeple]

WHAT THE CONCEPT ART SHOW

In old concept art that show the elders, there were in fact 7 ( or 8 depending on how you count valley😅) of them.

The 7th was represented in 2 ways
A: As a child with a golden crown above his head ( refeared to as the Prince)
B : As a dark giont with a star like mask ( refeared to as the king)

These are the same person btw, at different points in there life

[drowsy flare]

oh wow thats interesting

[hushed steeple]

All the statues in Waistland ars in fact statues of the king ( you can see him in the first pics), and a corupted version of the king was planed at one point as the final boss in edan

[drowsy flare]

was the king under the elders? like who had the more power

[hushed steeple]

though most direct references of the king were removed, there is one bit of direct evidence at the end of Voult, where you are shown the 6 constalations turning into murals showing the elders and there kingdoms, and a 7th showing edan and the king

[hushed steeple]

Oh he was there boss from a curtain point of view

[viral bay]

Oh the King for sure

The elders may have existed before the king/prince was born but after he passed all the trials he was crowned king

I believe he also was the main command in all major darkstones operations

[hushed steeple]

Yup😁

This might be more my interpretion, but after he become the king, you have a system where the 6 kingdom basicly united under the rule of the king, who had his own capital in edan ( the castle)
The elders each looked after there own kimgdoms that had curtain autonomy, but above them was the king who made decisions on the scale of the empire

[drowsy flare]

Ohh okay, that makes sense now, tysm! also- ive heard there was an explosion of sorts?

[hushed steeple]

Dont worry, I will get to that soon☺️

POSSIBLE REFERENCES OF THE PRINCE IN CURENT SKY

References to the PRINCE are wey more prevelant in the game
-From a memory in Isle of down that show him being the first child of light to come to earth
-To the great mural in the cave of prophesy showing him as the first to compleat all triles by himself
-To a mural in edan showing him on top of the mountain with 6 figures besides him, a great crystal above and the ancesters bowing bellow

This part at least seams to be streight up cannon, even if his later giant form is posibly not

WHAT I THINK

Now combining all the old concept art and what weve seen in the game, I think this is how things played out

-Way back in the earlyest ages of sky, the prince come to earth as the first child of light.
He was the first to compleat all the triles and gain the respect of the anchants

-Over time you have the establishmant of the 6 kingdoms ( then much smaller and more basic), with the elders in charge of the individual regions, and the prince above them

-Then the art of crystal making was descovered in forest, that started a major technological revolution is Sky
The prince was particularly interested in the crystals, and pushed for them the most

-The kingdoms grow exponentially in size, splender, wealth and power, and eventually unite into a massive empire, with the capital in edan.
-The prince grows in power boath politicly and literally, gaining more controle as the empire grow, and also becomeing bigger and more powerfull personally
( Here is were he becomes the KING)

-The groath of the empire and the reliance on more and more crystals couses more and more problems over time ( a veeeery long story) cousing conflict between the ancesters and the creatures, and possibly among the ancesters themselfs, leading to THE GREAT WAR

-Most of the fighting was done in Waistland (for reasons too long to explain now), which is why you have all the devestation, corpses and weapons there.

-Dureing all this, in his own kingdom in edan, the king was overseing a project to create the largest and most powerfull crystal ever, the culmination of all of the knowlige and skill of the age being used to make it.
The king belived this will solve all his problems ( he is full out of touch tyrant at this point). It will give him ultimate power he would gain

[drowsy flare]

Ohh woww

[hushed steeple]

• But he was dealing with forcess far beyong his or anybodies understanding or controll
  When the crystal was finally activated, in all went wrong

It overloaded, become corupted, turned from blue to menecing red .....full nuclear😅

-This brought the plague of darkness and the rise of the krill
-the great storm that rages in edan and to a lesser extent around waistland
-And of course, the end of the old empire and the ancesters

CONCLUSION

This is my rushed baddly explained history of the king😅
There is a lot more that goes into this, but it would take WAAAY to long, and much of it comes down to personal interpretation😅
So I will leave this for now

Hope this helped you understand things

[vocal terrace]

So what I'm understanding is..

[cold sparrow]

that's an amazing piece of art

[vocal terrace]

Thanks! Might put sum comic theory here to..

[hushed steeple]

Yup, thats about right🤣

[vocal terrace]

I'm sorry if this is not very lore related but like-i found a note about the relationship between dawn elder and resh so I made this

Father and son bonding

[cold sparrow]

CUTE...

[viral bay]

WAIT is there a source for the special relationship between the king/prince and Isle elder?

[drowsy flare]

Holyyy wow tysm that's really helpful, I appreciate it! <33

Oh also- in the Nintendo trailer they show Isle of dawn being lush and green and then turning into a desert, did that also happen because of the failure of the dark diamond thing?

[viral bay]

Yeah that seems to be the cause of the desert

[hushed steeple]

Thanks so much☺️
And yes, Isle of down going from green to desert is conected with the great colamity.
And looking at some preview concept art for the upcomeing sky animation, the Golden Waistland was green and beutifull once too

[drowsy flare]

Oh interesting, tysm! Btw where can you find a album of sorts of all the concept art from sky?

[hushed steeple]

This could have happened before the Eden explosion!
A popular theory is that isle was banished, excluded, disowned by the rest of the kingdom(or at least the king.) however, you can’t just move an entire chunk of land so easily! So another theory(one I believe I made a while back)is that the elders used the cyan light to completely block off and isolate isle by covering it with clouds!
Evidence for is that the cyan light is right outside of isle before entering prairie. And also that there are an immense amount of clouds at the back of isle obscuring a big portion of sun, but that isn’t necessarily a strong one.
Another thing to note is that this desertification hasn’t happened to any other realm aside from wasteland and Eden which died due to pollution. But there isn’t much sign of pollution in isle so a reasonable explanation is that something else caused the plant life to die, like a lack of sun!
If the clouds were completely covering isle(like they were in the early beta)it would mean the sun was obscured and the plant life had a drastic decrease in sun light for photosynthesis. This would kill all the vegetation and give way to a barren desert.

I do hope this made sense.

[drowsy flare]

That does make sense! Why would it be excluded though? And also what's cyan light? <33

[hushed steeple]

It was likely excluded due to being open about not agreeing with the king, but there isn’t much evidence for that.

And for the lights I highly suggest finishing the forgotten ark in wasteland first.

[strong edge]

oh and another bit I would like to mention is that prairie is filled with pots and butterflies trapped in them and we can see it all being transported from prairie to the forest. But as some people pointed out, the prairie elder is kind and gentle and seems like that’s something they would never do! So it’s a popular theory that the prairie elder was either tricked, forced or some other reason for transporting life of beautiful light creatures.

[crisp socket]

Well, this does tie in with the fact that the isle elder’s ensign isnt on the Eden gate, and the Eden gate holds much value for the “Prince”, so it probably ties in with the fact that the isle was banished. Might also explain the large gap that you have to fly through, and the large, wall-like barrier with a crack as the entrance to prairie.

[lusty merlin]

I actually have another idea

Since manta‘a were shown to be used in the process of making darkstone (abyss murals) I feel Prarie elder started making the butterflies as an effort so mantas would be used less.
Their temple wall to wall is coverd in pots so the work for attempting it would’ve been immense

[hushed steeple]

I will give it to you about this happening before the explosion. That could be possible
And the whole thing about Isle being "disowned " has some merit

However the things about it being cursed by the elders.......I dont really see that happening😅

[lusty merlin]

They’re shown to make a butterflly from fire so I’m now wondering if they’re even natural creatures that exist without prarie elders influence

[hushed steeple]

Something that people might not realise is that Isle of down and Waistland ( and also starlight desert) are by far the lowest regions when it comes to elevation, and also that the storm and cloud cover was way more intence when the calamity happened.
So the whole "bloting out of the sun" was becouse of that, while the other realms were above the level of the low clouds

[strong edge]

also I didn’t realize this for a bit because I was playing before the time when you burned darkness and there would be butterflies, so it was a bit of a revelation for me the darkness was totally meant to trap creatures of light also the mantas that are stuck under darkness + butterflies stuck in pots with darkness at the top shows this is what intended before! but if any of you disagree I would love to hear long detailed explanations why filled with more lore

[crisp socket]

Well, so are mantas. Almost every manta and butterfly is made of light, and we see that they exist without intervention (prairie elder is ded)

[lusty merlin]

Im only saying butterflies could not be natural, not mantas.

Like mantas obviously were used but now I’m also thinking, if butterflies were purely a creation of ’s making then they could’ve tried to make butterflies the new power source for light than relying on mantas

I’m not saying it worked but I’m imagining an attempt was made

[hushed steeple]

Or maybe butterflies were just everywhere like how actual bugs have immensely massive population sizes so could the butterflies. And because of this the prairie elder reluctantly decided that it would do less damage to use butterflies than mantas.

[hushed steeple]

Just becouse Priery elder made butterfly from light doesnt mean that they cant be born naturally
All living things have there origin in light, and so clumps of lighr can spontaneosly form into butterfly, and the Priery elder who has s-level understanding of the metaphisics of light can do the same arteficially

Butterfly are probably the simplest being in this universe, so are preaty easy to do.
Everything else is way too complex

[lusty merlin]

Fair, the idea is sticking to me still so I’ll probably keep it into a headcannon. But prairie elder can still make them, so it could be a mix of real and artificial and all

[hushed steeple]

Real or arteficial is just a mater of what force or being made them
The principal is the exect same in boath cases😅

Just becouse a fire can be started by lightning hitting a tree or man rubing sticks together, it doesnt mean that the one fire is different from the other

[lusty merlin]

I’m not suggesting butterflies are made differently, the natural and artificial idea makes more sence. Just saying saw manta light was benig used, realized how simple butterflies are to make, and made of them themslevs in an effort for manta light to be replace

[hushed steeple]

You are absolutly right☺️
Though I think he does it more becouse its easyer to store and transport

[lusty merlin]

Agree to disagree then

I just find my reason a little more sad

[keen shore]

I think what Tac is trying to say is that, yes, just because butterflies can be made artificially doesn’t mean they can’t also be made naturally, like you said…

but what if they were only made artificially? We have no solid evidence beyond assumptions that they could also come into existence naturally. The only times we ever see butterflies appear are:

• when someone creates them from light. Day does this, so does an ancestor in the switch trailer.
• and when we burn darkness plants. Here, the common assumption is that they were trapped by the darkness plants; however, I will quickly digress and say that something about the condition of the plants may have forced them to form in the same way people create them.

So, like what Tac said, what if butterflies could only be created artificially?

[lusty merlin]

Yaya

[fair lotus]

just some thoughts/headcanons about light magic/abilities and light creatures.

there seems to be a few abilities or “schools” of light magic. light manipulation, flight/lightness, and illusion magic, as well as an immunity to extreme temperatures.

I think the illusion magic is part of light manipulation. sky kids live in a dead kingdom, where no one is making new fancy clothes, so I think sky kids probably are all wearing the default clothes theyre born with, and are casting illusions spells to wear cosmetics they see on the spirits they encounter. they also can change the appearance or shape of their wings (which judging by their shadows, are actually invisible, or made of light). I believe sky kids can manipulate the light that hits your eyes so that you see something that isnt there, or see it differently.

the light manipulation is usually obvious, such as the orbs and sparkles we can conjure during emotes, for example, or the ability to power objects with light, or light candles with our inner flame.

theres also a floatiness to light creatures, although I think sky kids are a little heavier because we’re half mortal, hence why we need to recharge to continue flying, while pure light creatures seemingly do not.

as for the immunity to temperature, I think our inner light keeps us warm and also works as a sort of kinship with fire and heat, if that makes sense.

[sharp lichen]

Read up, and you’ll soon find it

Others have explained it better than me, it seems I’ve overslept

But for a TLDR, the Season of Remembrance spirits were refugees who had their loved ones lost in a war, and the Remembrance Guide used shared space technology to try to comfort them.

[sharp lichen]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

For context, the reason gravity discussion is so funny to me is this massive 3 day long convo about it

[sharp lichen]

Nobody knows, they probably acted separately from the Elders sometimes but still worked together

[sharp lichen]

Viksa, this is great

[hushed steeple]

Is that a good thing?😅

[sharp lichen]

Maybe, but it could also happen due to natural desertification

[sharp lichen]

Most helpful would be pins

[sharp lichen]

Yeah, but we also have weaknesses! For example, Skykids don’t take any fall damage, similar to a real life squirrel, so they’re probably aerodynamic. Also, water is a major weakness for them (hurt by rain, can’t stay in water forever unlike other creatures, and Trial of Water), so maybe they’re made of an earth-like exterior that dissolves a little in water?

[hushed steeple]

I actually have a massive folder full of concept art
It might need a bit better organisation, but you are welcomed to it

Does anybody happen to know another way of shareing it online for free besides google drive link?
I dont have too much free space as it is😅

[fair lotus]

my theory is that only polluted water hurts us, and that the only reason we cant breathe underwater (without the help of other light creatures) is because we arent pure like them, the mortal in us still uses lungs.

[native galleon]

do you think ancestors were also hurt by rain? bc if so that would raise so many more questions

[sharp lichen]

They did use umbrellas, but then again so do we

And the Forest Elder originally created the rain, as shown in the Prophecy murals

[native galleon]

yeah which is what makes me go 🤨

no beta spoilers outside beta channels

re: baud, umbrellas don’t necessarily mean it hurt them, i mean like rain doesn’t exactly hurt people irl but it’s unpleasant so we use them. not saying it couldn’t have hurt them, i think the pollution theory holds water, just that the umbrellas don’t prove it either way

[sharp lichen]

Holds water

[native galleon]

not intended but yeah lol
it’s more like the water holds it ig

[sharp lichen]

I think the rain was originally used for either

1. A defensive barrier to make it more hidden

2. To fertilize the crops and make things more lush

Over time, however, this original meaning would be lost and the rain would become hazardous

[native galleon]

Yeah that makes sense!! Or what if it like carried the blue light and fertilized things that way, then the light was lost or corrupted over time so they couldn’t control it anymore

Final passage quest checks out as well, it’s not rain but it’s blue light being used to nourish light flora like water

[keen shore]

Wonder if the rain creation in Forest has anything to do with the visible remnants of a forest fire we see everywhere
(Very many trees in Forest are broken off at the top in a way consistent with fire damage, esp around Boneyard where the orange light is)

[hushed steeple]

There’s also the orange light in the forest graveyard suggesting there was a Hidden Forest fire!(pun intended)
And from the prophecy mural of the orange light leading up to the main cave it seems to suggest this actually happened and possibly caused all the clouds above forest.

Q: What’s a sky kid’s favorite plant?

A: River jade…

/j

Just a heads up
I cleared up some of the space on my google drive, so I can share the link on the channel once its done transfering

Wait, which head is up?
GOOGLES DRIVING??!!?! I thought their license was revoked!!!
Link is entering the channel???? Is Zelda here too???

Did I read that right????!!!?!!??!

/j

I’m not sure how I feel about this…

[keen shore]

I think it is fascinating how they removed almost all references to the ‘king’ beyond a mural that has some out of date aspects anyway (look at the designs the valley elders are depicted with) and references to the ‘prince’ are much more common.

I have a theory that they removed one character and kept the other

[hushed steeple]

can anybody acces this

[hushed steeple]

No, you need to make sure it’s accessible to anyone with the link

I see

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1U9lRjFAhTiDb6O-7GTuWcAdEepN5GkgF?usp=sharing

[hushed steeple]

It works now

Nice☺️
This is hardly all of it, but I hope it helps
There is still much that Im missing

This will certainly be useful to me!

A lot of these are cut out from much larger concept art collages, so dont be suprised if you see dubble😅
Also I might need to reorganise the content, but that for a 2.0 version. I dont feel motivated to do it until I get a looooot more concept art

Do you have the lightseekers concept art?

[sharp lichen]

seasonal concept art is usually found in pins

[hushed steeple]

sorry, I dont have any season concept art😔

I do have from abyss and Wind path season, but I cant find them on my computer

would really apreciate if anybody can tell me where to find concept art for the rest of the seasons

[sturdy wyvern]

I know I’ve seen performance concept art in this chat before, ima look for a little bit and see if I can find some.

LETS GO found the jackpot! I found a comment that linked to a performance beta blog. Here’s the link to it.
https://thatskygame-staging.netlify.app/news/a-spotlight-on-season-of-performance-concept-art

[hushed steeple]

I just found it too lol

And there are also ones for abyss and flight!
Guess we gotta keep digging…

https://bit.ly/AbyssConcept
Here is abyss!

[untold notch]

theres a link in the pins

[hushed steeple]

Oh

I can’t find it

[drowsy flare]

OMG VULTURES IN SKY WOULD BE SO COOLLL

[sturdy wyvern]

For a second, I thought you meant the vultures from rain world and I almost had a heart attack 💀
||maybe I’m just playing too much rain world ||

But yeah vultures would be a very cool idea

[hushed steeple]

This is I think my favorite piece of flight concept art.

THERES A MINI TEMPLE IN THERE WHICH IS CUTE CAUSE FLIGHT GUIDE WAS PRAIRIE ELDER’S APPRENTICE!!!!

[drowsy flare]

Rai world is an awesome game, it's animation is so gooddd, tbh rain world vultures wont be that bad of an idea in sky-

[sturdy wyvern]

Nuuuuuuu but the poor mantas will be vulture food

Now if they were friendly that wouldn’t be too bad

[drowsy flare]

:0 it can be like they're passive at first but if you do any sudden movements or yk do something they don't like they became aggressive

[sturdy wyvern]

WAIT AND VULTURES HAVE MASKS TOO they would fit right in!

[cold sparrow]

vultures (preferably) feed on already dead matter
and don't hunt
if sky got sth like vultures, i could rather see them in the wasteland, feeding on bones overgrown with darkness

[marble lynx]

I'm sad that season of Shattering concept art is so damn blurry

It's so damn blurry https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1wY7KcmVeu3PTqm-a2Ap_xzZ8caAuzbZv

[nimble ingot]

What is the attachment?

[marble lynx]

The Shattering Guide questgiver concept art photo, idk why Google drive has some problems that I can't see my downloaded image

Btw click on the link above, maybe you can find it

[nimble ingot]

ah, thank you.

I presume this was the image you wanted to show, here it is. 👍

[viral bay]

Wow i have never seen that before!

It's interesting that the shard could have taken form of jagged crystals we seen on the pathway in eden

[nimble ingot]

Personally am salty at the fact that these concept art are accesible today purely because fans of the game had saved the images from a social media post from late July 2022.

We are able to view more concept art of Light Awaits than all of the seasons in Sky combined.

[nimble ingot]

In a way, we do.
The guide is the same spectral shard we can find in the memories.

TGC has warned fans of the game that shattering would be different than other seasons. And true to their word, as far as we are aware, it is the only season without recognisable ancestor spirits; the only one without a proper season area players can fully access; one without any season cutscenes or an ending cutscene; one without a clear narative that the skykid took part in; and one that may be directly related to the Eden elder (the King).

[viral bay]

Can someome give me the meanings of each color light from Enchantment?

[sharp lichen]

For a simple explanation:

These four are more common

Teal is air
Dark Blue is water
Orange is Fire
Green is Earth/Nature

These are rarely found

Red is Void/Darkness
Purple is Mind

For a more detailed explanation on where they exactly are, I have a theory for this

[nimble ingot]

credit to aqua for the quest hints: #lore-discussion-spoilers message
credit to sophos for the image with theoretical meanings to the colour orbs in Enchantment: #lore-discussion-spoilers message

[viral bay]

Up until now i still don't understand how seasons work when considering lore wise. Like this new civilization of skykids just happen to stumble upon one pathway, one area after another with more spirits to save?

[sharp lichen]

There are some explanations:

1. The storm is receding, which allows more lands to be unearthed

2. The guides hide themselves until they think the Skykids are ready

[viral bay]

Ahh i see

[sturdy wyvern]

I mean it makes sense because wasn’t light awaits in development for 7 years or some really big number like that? Of course there is going to be more concept art about the creation of an entire game that went through multiple iterations of itself compared to an event in said game which took an absolute maximum of 1 year to make?

[keen shore]

[Drops essay from pocket]

Colored lights are a specific type of light in Sky that are part of its magic system and can be used by ancestors, elders, and presumably skykids. You might recognize them from Enchantment.

Each has a specific personality trait associated with it; for orange through blue these are given to us by the Trials’ descriptions, but for red and purple they are theorized.

Red - Void - Tradition
controls darkness and its ability to ‘consume/release’ things. Imagine darkness like a Venus flytrap; red light can influence its opening and closing, releasing things it already consumed. This is how it brought back the Ark’s murals; darkness had consumed and destroyed them, and Nodding Muralist used it to bring them back.

Orange - Fire - Courage
controls and brings flame, especially in relation to the flames/inner light of creatures; hence why it summoned light creatures for the ark.

[Yellow is the color of general, non elemental light.]

Green - Earth - Tenacity
controls rocks, plants, & is also related to light creatures, similar to Fire.

Cyan - Air - Balance
Controls air & air currents, makes things float, and presumably can create things like vacuums as well, but we don’t know for sure.

Blue - Water - Patience
controls & purifies water, can bring rain.

Purple - Mind - Creativity
can manifest tangible constructs out of light, like how it created the tents in the ark.

[sharp lichen]

There’s also this somewhat outdated theory of mine: #lore-discussion-spoilers message

[nimble ingot]

One the one hand, one can interpret them as a new chapter us players get to explore as the story unfolds. While for the skykids, it could be a new area that was revealed by the clouds.
Whereas on the other hand, the lore of these seasons are suggested by the devs to apply to the lore as if they were always there.

Take the shard events as an example.
I recall there was a TGC post that mentions the shard events could have been in the game much sooner than when they were added in with the season, but was held back due to limitations.
Therefore were to be seen as if they were always a thing for skykids to encounter, and not a new development.

Put like this, to a moth who just joined the game, they would see these additions as a part of the game from the start (almost like a prologue).
And not an expansion or epilogue that was added after everything happened as with an older player.

[viral bay]

Good point. So skykids are like explorers and historians who overtime discover new places in Sky and try to reconstruct a picture of the civilization that preceded theirs?

[sharp lichen]

Yes, but that's not their only purpose

[viral bay]

Oh yeah of course, I think the main purpose skykids are created in the first place is to bring back all the lost light to the Megabird lol

(As well as many other things like relive spirit's memories so they can ascend, free the light creatures, etc.)

[nimble ingot]

I would agree.
Given that skykids in the lore are somewhat like a jester, or a blank slate.

The source of their personality and traits are partly from what they are in the game, and what their players contribute.

Ergo, some players are curious and eager to learn about the lore. Therefore their skykids would have the same fascination of the ancestor's history.

Their mission may be to save the ancestor spirits and the Light. But in the mean time, a skykid has to find something else to keep them occupied with.

[viral bay]

Not long ago i asked the Sky subreddit whay jobs would skykids have and i had lots of creative answers!

Skaters, dancers, musicians, painters, fashion designer, couturier, archeologist, mathematician to calculate the most efficient candle route

I can link to the post if y'all want to read all the comments, i do recommend bc a lot are very creative! Though i think some had confused the skykid civilization and the Ancestor civilization

[nimble ingot]

That is interesting O.O

Perhaps they can add to that list:
ubers, racers, guides, cooks, bakers, writers, lorekeepers, event hosts, party hosts, and tracker

[nimble ingot]

please do. 🙏

[viral bay]

Beekeepers for all the wax, krill tamers/moth guide, medics and first aid in gw and Eden too

[viral bay]

Here it is! I hope the link works

https://www.reddit.com/r/SkyGame/comments/10g8qki/in_the_society_of_sky_what_jobs_do_you_think/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1

[nimble ingot]

it works. thank you

sky medics in eden be vaguely like war medics from WW2.

[viral bay]

Omg 😭 yes

Honestly i would LOVE to hear more ideas from you guys here especially w all y'all big brains chock-full of lore

[nimble ingot]

probably adventurers and scouts who like to explore ruins and complete puzzles and dungeons.

I have a pending list of food granny could make with skykids.
Suppose that could also be entertained by redditors if you like.

[viral bay]

GIMME DA FOOD

[nimble ingot]

Alright, feel free to add you own suggestions (and in the event I forget any, my bad. and credit to whoever happens to mention something that is listed here)

bao buns, steam milk buns, cake pops, ice cream, angel food cake pop, snowball (desert), marshmallow, wax, mozzarella balls, mochi, onigiri rice balls...

[sturdy wyvern]

Thank you for linking the subreddit, although I would like to both remind and let people know that there is currently a reddit-wide blackout in protest of recent changes to their API, and now might not be the best time to browse. The blackout is officially ending tomorrow though so it might be best to cruise sky’s subreddit then.

[nimble ingot]

Goodness.
Noted.

[soft timber]

appears Am here

[jade orchid]

So the spirits were fighting each other? (That's what appears to have caused the lady to die in this pic)

[nimble ingot]

Likely from the volley of massive spears thrown by an army.

In season of Aurora, there is a quest and song in the concert that features Seed of Hope. Where it showed the ancestors fighting each other.

[hushed steeple]

My sky kid has a secret garden full of LOADS of different types of plants and likes to sell extras they end up propagating or planting sometimes!

[sharp lichen]

I like the idea of Skykid tourist guides, to be almost apprentices for the seasonal guides and help new Skykids learn about unfamiliar areas!

[hushed steeple]

Therapist.
We most certainly need a professionally trained sky kid therapist.

[sharp lichen]

Skykid counselors at places like Vault could be cool

[hushed steeple]

“Doc, I think I’m traumatized from krill.”
honk
“…”
honk honk, honkity honky honk
“”
HONK!!!!
“You’re right! I’m cured!”
h o n k
/j

[violet sundial]

Hey does anyone mind helping me brainstorm something

[fallen root]

🕊 Sneaks into Lorechat whilst being in class ||[did I use whilst right help]||

[sharp lichen]

Brainstorm what

[violet sundial]

I’m planning to make a group of lightseeker spirit ocs and i’m trying to think of what kind of story i want to tell with it basically

[untold notch]

do you know what realm you plan to put them in, if just one?

[fallen root]

🕊 Do you think if TGC adds like Eden Elders [Resh and Alef] into the game, do you think that Alef would wish us luck with Resh and when we finish the Eden Run, Resh would hug us and thank us for everything

[violet sundial]

Hmm… I don’t have one in mind yet but you bring up a good point! I’ll think about it for a second and get back to u

[untold notch]

because a lot of realms have themes to their stories

[violet sundial]

Yeee… i’m still thinking on how i wanna go about it but i like the idea of some of the lightseekers being healers and I definitely want to do something with that

So i think vault could be appropriate if it’s related to the. Wasteland war

If that’s not the time period i could see something like Forest working as well

[untold notch]

its your story you can put it wherever

[violet sundial]

I think it’d be cool if the spirits grew plants of some kind that they could harvest light from to use for spells, and rn i’d like to use the wisterias for that but i might be able to think of something a bit better

Also yah fair! Sorry if my thoughts are really messy cus i’m still trying to figure out how to put this together

[untold notch]

i completely understand the mess tbh its all part of the process

[sharp lichen]

If you want to emphasize the themes and connections to Enchantment, it could be possible to put them in Wasteland or Isle

[violet sundial]

Oooh that’d be really interesting too actually thank you

I think isle could totally work so ill ponder that a bit more, thank u both for the help wee

Okok i think i have a baseline figured out now yippie

[violet sundial]

Okok here’s what i came up with wee

[sharp lichen]

It would be Lightseekers 6 actually (Lightseekers 1, Assembly, Bloom 2022, Bloom 2023, Days of Sunligjt, now this)

But I love this concept! I could imagine a wisteria-filled Isle looking really good

I had another idea of a follow-up season to Graititude, but it was more blatant

[violet sundial]

SDDDJDHKFJDJDJ 6……

Do u mind Sharing? I think I remember you talking about it once like last year

[keen shore]

YES YES YES THIS

YES

i love seeing people explore lightseekers in different regions I love seeing Isle season I love seeing light magic at work

Messed up that all the emotes I have to best express my feelings are not in this server

[sharp lichen]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

It's mostly the same, but I have some changes

Maybe the Gratitude spirits do some little minigames with you once you've found them

And the blatant Prophecy references are only there because both seasons share a common theme of animal masks

In reality it's not my favorite seasonal concept, it works very much as a "what if there was a season set in home island" or "what if gratitude was remade"

[violet sundial]

I feel u i wish i had nitro 😔

[keen shore]

Moment of silence for the seasons that got released before spirits started being considered and portrayed as individual characters instead of cosmetics shops

[sharp lichen]

Lightseekers 1: An original classic still beloved by many

Assembly: The daring sequel that added a lot while still keeping true to the original

Bloom 2022: The grand return that is beloved by many and shows a modern, new step forward

Bloom 2023: The thrilling expansion of the Lightseekers lore that shows them use never-before-seen skills

Days of Sunlight: A quaint side adventure that is not directly related, but still beloved for what it does

[keen shore]

I love the Lightseekers a lot but they and only the guide of Belonging got massive favoritism when it came to being characterized further after 😔 when will Rhythm come back from the war

[violet sundial]

Real

[violet sundial]

I think it could work! It would be a very nice remake for gratitude

[sharp lichen]

It’s not how TGC really does things imo, given how Assembly and Performance were more spiritual successors instead of full-on remakes

[sharp lichen]

also it's funny how I predicted the aviary to return just not like this

[violet sundial]

Yah

Also i’m like really emotionally exhausted so sorry if i’m kind of unresponsive!!

[lost pecan]

Me, staring at the soundtrack and just going at the Names(specifically for Season of Shattering themes)

The theme that plays when a Red Shard(not sure if a black shard gets the same) is called "Of the Essence" which. Y'know. Definitely makes me Think. Gets those lore gears a-workin. But then you have another soundtrack for the Shattering Memories

And that one also has a funny little name.
The Unfathomable Nothing.

I don't entirely know What to make of it but hey! Funny little things I pay attention to.
The Elders of course also have their own soundtracks!

Isle/Dawn: Calling Across
Prairie/Day: Rousing Alight
Forest/Rain: The Invention
Valley/Sunset: Shall We Play
Wasteland/Dusk: Two Heroes
Vault/Night/All Elders: The Story Thus Far

Another fun little detail I noticed is that the soundtrack for the second stage of Eden is called The Current and comes right after The Story Thus Far and. I dunno I just think it's neat

[nimble ingot]

Woke up today to see 95 candles disappear from my skykid's pocket.
Granted. While these were event candles.

On the one hand, it was understandable that these candles would not carry over when the event ends. On the other, it does bring into question the value of a candle in sky.

Do they symbolise as a token of hope, remembrance and respect? Namely when linked to real life traditions that view candles as a symbol of one's devotion, or in memory of the deceased, or as an offering.

Or has this piece of the lore been undermined by a system for trading in cosmetics and emotes in the game?

These questions are merely to spark up a conversation regarding the lore and fanon.
As far as I had known the lorechat. This topic has not been visited often and yet may present an interesting debate for users..

[cold sparrow]

mind you, these were event tickets, not candles
candles are the permanent currencies
the event tickets will have varying shapes and forms, but none of them candles
that said, candles have certainly been designed around Sky and Skykids using, consuming, growing, moving and changing with light, but they're ultimately also just a game mechanic

[nimble ingot]

Ah fair and true.
I had to read the post to confirm.
They were careful with wording it as event currency. Seeing they may vary in appearance depending on the theme.

my mistake and good observation, rooty.

And also true with the candles being used as the Sky's form of currency.

It may apply to the lore being that candles are valuable to the ancestors.

To them, it may be the flame. And to skykids, it is the wax.
Which in a figurative sense, each side represents a half of the same coin.

[cold sparrow]

well, skykids just collect the wax to ultimately forge new candles
all still revolves around candles being a source of light

[vast heath]

SORRY I FEEL A LITTLE TOO SILLY AND STUPID ATM

[nimble ingot]

welcome to lorechat

[tepid veldt]

silly is our brand

[wary saffron]

Aw no need. It's ok to not know things! Everyone starts somewhere

[sharp lichen]

OMG I LOVE SOUNDTRACK DISCUSSION

My favorite is the Isle temple’s theme, Lighting the Way, which is basically what we Skykids are doing