lore-discussion-spoilers

[lusty merlin]

Double dead

[inner basalt]

“ hey wanna get Taco Bell “
“ NO “
last online : 1 min ago

[untold notch]

krii assigned cain and abel

[round parrot]

Rhythm and Performance (I want to make a meme with the 2nd image)

[fickle wing]

where’s that one samekh pic hold on

[inner basalt]

ngl, one of the rhythm spirits would be talking to performance then the rhythm guide just. tackles performance hell the rhythm spirit i mentioned would probably be confused

[fickle wing]

this is the airpods version but

[lusty merlin]

I cherish these reety to cherish

[lusty merlin]

HELPPPP LTXXKRXRMZM

[lusty merlin]

OUGH since they’re spirits here and performance is still setting up the stage, I wonder if both of them died early pre disaster

[round parrot]

Did it

[inner basalt]

“ are you.. okay? “
“ no i just tackled my twin but im fine! 😁 “
“ you aren’t “
“ yes. I. Am. “

[inner basalt]

rhythm lies about so much things
like
“ OMG THERES A BALL GAME GOIN ON “
“ Really? “
“ YES “

5 min later

“ tricked you there wasnt “

[soft timber]

"We dumb, need skykid help" on the cloth

[inner basalt]

frantic stagehand and the juggling spirit are just chatting and then you see performance guide and rhythm guide just

“ NO CHOCOLATE ICECREAM IS BETTER. “

“ NUH UH. VANILLA IS. “

“ CHOCOLATE IS THE BEST FLAVOR EVER. “

[slate saffron]

Fun Fact!: Rock, much like tomatoes, are very edible when cooked properly!

[untold notch]

do you agree with my vision or not

[lusty merlin]

No idea how they came to that conclusion but they definitely aren’t. From what I’ve seen, they just hold memories and project said memories

[slate saffron]

Yes, but first I will need a big pot of water & some firewood

[fickle snow]

A little bit late, BUT

i almost drowned wjhile taking thta photo lol

[brisk python]

OH GOD SAH CANT HEAR US THEY HAVE AIRPODS IN

[inner basalt]

texting headcanons

isle elder: adult typing
daylight: same for isle
hidden forest: lowercase and 😟 emoji
valley of trimuph: sah types like a adult and mekh types like a teenager and abbreviates most of their words
wasteland: same as sah
vault: just nice and polite

[south saddle]

no no Sah Types Like This

[inner basalt]

“ hey bro “
“ Hey “
“ man what the he “
Last online: 5 hours ago

[south saddle]

yes. thats all I have to say

[inner basalt]

they 100 percent always say dumb things
“ Does money grow on trees “
“ no 🤯 “
“ How come pizza rolls “
“ why are you asking me this stuff i got no clue “

[lusty merlin]

i see the twins being the opposite, mekh using proper grammar and sah using lowercase and abbreviations

tsadi and ayin for how big their hands own would try to type properly but often makes mistakes

Teth would use proper grammar but their messages would unintentionally come off as monotone

[frigid tinsel]

Consider: Day and Dusk using voice to text

[inner basalt]

“ HIIIIII “
“ Hi “
“ your so boring “
last online: like 1 minute ago or so

[lusty merlin]

yaya that can work! (i forgot voice to text existed help)

can also see both saying something then getting distracted by something else as it translates

[inner basalt]

ngl i can see the twins texting each other even though their LITERALLY in front of each other

[lusty merlin]

this weirdly reminded me of my birth scar communication i have for them and i will now ramble cuz my head is full of it

i have a hc when the twins first fell, they we're in the process in splitting but didn't fully form, its my reason for why each have one eye and a prosthetic. Both twins also have this birthscar in my hc that resembles a healed burn mark over their missing eye and around the bases of their shoulder. I mention this because it also has a weird quirk, if one twin touches their own birthscar, they cant feel it, but the other twin can, so they can communicate in a weird way by morse code tapping basically

anyways i love these two, i find it very cool both appear to be two halves of one whole :3

little confused on the golden wasteland part, to me it seems like both looked up to the flame in the sky after sah knocks it into the air (wait i might've misread that help)

Weird funfact but, the final pose they revert to before the cutscene ends is the same one that’s shown if you play their cutscene and head over to the starfeild memorial oob!
So technically they look to us and not the sky, but that could just be the end of their animation as our skykid also jerks into place they same time they do

[inner basalt]

off topic but the valley elders seem so nice

[lusty merlin]

100%! i can totally see them helping their people and doing whatever means to protect them. I see the other elders being nice aswell ofcorse, just some show it more differently than others <3

[inner basalt]

brb im gonna see if i can draw that

nvm i cant

[lusty merlin]

its the thought that counts

[inner basalt]

also also, i can see them being helpful yet playing around when helping someone, like for example, if one of them is helping a skykid and sah just pokes mekhs back, they just say “ dude stop “ and it goes on and on

[lusty merlin]

yaya that too though i can see them always being serious if it is needed

sillay and serious

[atomic lava]

'holay molay' one second and ' 😐 ' the next

[lusty merlin]

pretty much atleats that's how I see them depending on the situation

[atomic lava]

i like that interpretation a lot of people tend to only make them silly but they can be rather serious for sure

[lusty merlin]

yes exactly! like to me they're elders who are ruling a very large city, alot of technology and entertainment going around too, they're gonna have to be mature in situations if its needed to make sure thing's run smoothly

[inner basalt]

“ did you almost tackle me in the middle of doing something “
“ Yes.. “
“ okay “
“ oh really? “
“ yeah it’s fine :)) “
tgc pleas make it to where we can interact with them im gonna explode if you dont

[fickle snow]

cute

[inner basalt]

also also, they usually have to make it to where they usually say that their gonna take the time off then proceeds to talk about whatever they like to talk about

[lusty merlin]

like them having time for breaks basically?

[inner basalt]

yep, sorry i needa reword that better

[lusty merlin]

yaya breaks are good! though this is just me, but i can see all the elders having their overworking moments to some degree

[inner basalt]

yeah!

[atomic lava]

agreed 🥳

[inner basalt]

since twins are usually calm, can def seeing sah singing the song im listening to rn to a skykid or mekh when their sleeping

[atomic lava]

cool what song are you listening to

[inner basalt]

this song! it’s very comforting ngl

[atomic lava]

oh i havent heard it before i will have to listen later !!

[static zephyr]

Why can I see the elders in a meeting going

“I think we need to discuss the issue of the”-
“we do not care”

Or the valley Eders constantly playing pranks on each other

[south depot]

how would you guys describe (your interpretation of) the lore of sky to someone who has never played the game

[untold notch]

there isn't a lot of it, not a lot of concrete stuff that is

[earnest briar]

Leader of the Sky Kingdom attempts to find a solution to the darkness pollution (hehe it rhymes) but accidentally blows all the Elders + Eden up when the Eden Diamond gets overcharged and goes boom.

[sturdy wyvern]

🌠 🍀 🌿🌱 🌧️ 🌧️ 🌦️☀️ 🌨️ 1/3

[static vessel]

Same I think everyone has a head canon on the valley elders being devious people

[sturdy wyvern]

🔥 2/3

[untold notch]

somehow I anticipate tac will have things to say today

[sturdy wyvern]

Why is the last part blocked what?

I don’t have time to fix it no I have to go to class!

🌌 … 🌟✨💫🌌 ✨⭐️🌟🌌🌟💫 🌠 3/3
(Nice it worked)

[south depot]

Hey lore chat, I made a slideshow on my headcannons for the seasonal spirits https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10YftumDhlCpQhb1jdLvgwyxTcUaGQI6vh1Ic1CBNzl0/edit

[uneven hearth]

My headcanon is that if they had a printer they would print these eyes so(SORRY)

[static zephyr]

XD oh god I’m dying HA

[untold notch]

@lusty merlin

[static zephyr]

Wait how much do you guys guess that at least one of the spirits in sky died of laughter?

[sharp lichen]

Cackling Cannoneer, easily

[static zephyr]

CALLED IT

[flint bolt]

Lore chat, whats the deal with clouds?

[static zephyr]

Wait a second grandma makes us a meal and it’s wax dose that mean the the sky kids eat wax?

And candles are a byproduct of us eating wax?

[static zephyr]

Water.

[round parrot]

I believe "absorption" is a better term

[flint bolt]

oh sheeeeeeet

[static zephyr]

Ok then that also means we absorb darkness plants or what’s left of them after we melt them down and turn it into wax

[round parrot]

We more of burn the shell (or in other words, darkness), then absorb the inside wax

||(reminds me of how some fruits are skinned for the insides to be enjoyed)||

[static zephyr]

Ahh

Ok then here’s a kicker how powerful are the eders?

[flint bolt]

My main question is, who is placing all those candles everywhere?

[static zephyr]

The ancestor spirits back when they were alive we still don’t know what the importance of the candles

[round parrot]

More powerful than a moth I'll tell ya that

Jokes aside, I believe that elders are strong the more ancestors bring them light

[static zephyr]

But Eden has proven to be more powerful then the elders which could be the reason why they’re why they are when we see them in game, they been extinguish and there’s no other spirits to relight them so that’s were we come in we relight them and return them to there full power

[slate saffron]

AGREED THE KING BE SO STRONG AINT HE

[keen shore]

@lusty merlin

[static zephyr]

We are not entirely sure to me he seems more of a fraud just looking for more power

[south depot]

What were the realms original names, didn’t they represent stages of life or something?

[slate saffron]

Tricked, bamboozled, fooled

[lusty merlin]

First thing I see when I wake up ty for the double ping💀

[lusty merlin]

Oo kind of like how in some pieces of media a god grows in power for how attuned they are with the people that praise them? Instantly reminded me of hollow knight god master.

I personally see the elders being very powerful, point of having godlike powers. But to me they arnet worshipped like gods, but instead are respected as leaders who look over their realm. Like they’re not seen as untouchable pure beings who do no wrong, they still make good and bad choices, and their people are aware of that. Can definitely see an ancestors praise of giving an elder light helping them grow in power, even if it’s not to the extent of worship, super cool!

[bright oxide]

I think before the main elders there were elders such as water earth air fire as they made the world of sky before anything and after they vanished or something the spirits or main elders made their statues to remember them and represent patience and tenacity ik it's not a clear theory it's just my opinion but I think this theory might stand as there are statues of trials and statues mostly exist in sky for elders so this could be true or idk maybe not correct but I think so

[lusty merlin]

Would be super interesting if other elders did exist before the current ones. Then again I feel like the trail statues are meant to represent the prophet’s as well, prophets, and not exactly as elders. Also feel like we would’ve seen the prophets in the prophecy mural itself yet we only see the current elders, outside of the statues they’re very tied to the cave and seen nowhere else

Like I feel like if the prophets were previously elders we would atleast see them or somthing in any of the cave murals, yet they’re nowhere in sight, even when showing the elemental lights that each trail holds the way up to the main cave there’s no sight of them

I feel like if those elders for the air, fire, earth, and water light existed, we would atleast see a figure with them in the murals showing them building the world

[vapid shore]

i see wasteland elder as lazy, probs like fire prophet and an anime fan
thats why gw is polluted
also firs time here henlo

[inner basalt]

“we need to talk about-“ “no” “I do not care. we can keep fighting. i dont ca” “MEKH. YOU TWO NEED TO ACTUALLY- yeah whatever”

[lusty merlin]

Hi! Super curious why you see wasteland elder as being lazy exactly

[inner basalt]

yeah, i see him as like, him doing his best ngl

[raw crypt]

Hi welcome to lc! I’m also curious abt fire prophet being seen as such as well?

[inner basalt]

idk, i see him being very strong, because yk, yeah
but since he’s a anime fan i still see him being strong
he workouts/J

[fickle wing]

fire proph & wasteland gym buddies when

[lusty merlin]

I mean from the sheer size of them they’re definitely strong

[untold notch]

personally I'm of the opinion that the wasteland elder got stabbed and that can complicate things

[raw crypt]

wasteland elder gotta rise and grind! (they r suffering from stab wounds)

[fickle wing]

projects onto wasteland (knee and back pain)

[keen shore]

Wasteland has everywhere pain

[inner basalt]

i mean, see the wounded warrior and it’s theme of golden wasteland, he probably did
and “ The seed “ from the concert, it showed them being attacked and stuff

[lusty merlin]

Ya I heard about that too, but yeah grass, just wondering how you came to the idea of wasteland elder being lazy and all

[fickle wing]

even emotional pain </3

[lusty merlin]

I was like you when I was younger, then I took an arrow to the back /ref

[fickle wing]

wait just had the thought Ever with fire proph wait im a genius hold on

[vapid shore]

would there be a war in wasteland

[fickle wing]

yknow the catnip estrogen (will not provide pic as it got struck down earlier)
catnip t for fire proph when

[lusty merlin]

Do you think every war experienced that was lost even when they tried to win makes also that ruler who tried to fight it lazy?

[inner basalt]

hey have you seen the-
oh yeah! yeah..
liar.
NUH U-
im coping guys dw about me /J

[keen shore]

I mean, there being a war in wasteland doesn’t automatically mean the elder of it is lazy. There can be a lot of causes for war, especially since this particular war seems to be centered around the consequences of darkstone (basically Sky fossil fuels). We also see them leading their troops into battle in one of the vault elder murals; not the kind of leadership a lazy person would take

[inner basalt]

i mean being stabbed isn’t lazy, you can barely do anything at all so

[keen shore]

Also fire prophet is a FRIEND and I will not take fire prophet slander ever 💔 /lh
but seriously, their memory shows them taking an active effort teaching their students and they seem generally very enthusiastic about everything

[untold notch]

in fact they're doing more than they should, jumping off roofs and all tjat

[inner basalt]

im so sorry i laughed when you said “jumping off roofs” IMMSO SORRU HELP

[lusty merlin]

Like war is not easy, just because a place is utterly destroyed by it doesn’t mean they didn’t try to fight. Like hell, wasteland elder is showing leading their people into battle from the vault cutscene, they have a sheild and spear and everything. They come down trying to fight somthing when we first meet them before they collapse. The ruler of their own realm is willing to fight for it than stand back and watch from afar, that speaks volumes of them not being lazy

[fickle wing]

mental image of like. Some citizen or smthing seeing tsadi laying there and is like:
citizen: stop being Lazy ugh
tsadi who got stabbed:

[keen shore]

Dusk would be the type of person to get victim blamed for being stabbed 💔

[raw crypt]

damn just walk it off

[inner basalt]

… shake it off. shake it o

[fickle wing]

also!!! this!!! fire proph was like super enthusiastic in their memory running around n flexing n stuff like they don’t strike me as lazy

[keen shore]

I feel like they would be the exact OPPOSITE… type of person who wakes everyone else up at like 7am because they’re just so excited to talk to them

[fickle wing]

YEAH

[lusty merlin]

Also fireprophet

Like just because they like anime doesn’t mean they’re lazy. That’s a super weird conclusion to come to. Like prophets are shown to be teachers, plus fire prophet is shown to be energetic and ready to teach their students in a heartbeat about the fire element, they’re shown to be a passionate person through and through

[inner basalt]

fp : WAKE IP WAKE UP WAKE UP
ap : im up what
fp : hiii
ap : oh hi!
fp is fire prophet, ap is air prophet

[fickle wing]

fire proph tbe type of fella to wake up at like 5 am for a jog and then wake everyone up like hey guys rise n shine!!! while the rest of the prophets (besides earth who rises w the sun shoutout to ts hints) are like zombies that early on in the morning

[lusty merlin]

They would

[inner basalt]

omg me core (i heavily kin fire prophet)

performance guide that type of man to be like “okay so for todays act-“ and mellow musician says “i get to play music?” then performance guide does a facepalm

[lusty merlin]

They would

[frail trellis]

What is your theory about the ascended layers?

[earnest briar]

Wasteland Elder and Fire Prophet have a bromance going on and everyone knows it but is pretending not to notice.

[lusty merlin]

Could you elaborate more please? What ascended layers exactly?

[frail trellis]

the blue cape

[earnest briar]

Do you mean the Tier 1 and 2 constellation capes?

[frail trellis]

I wanted to know more about the ascended capes, Why can they ascend?

[earnest briar]

Isack you are not making any sense.

[frail trellis]

Yes

[frigid tinsel]

oh those are cosmetic items that were added for late-game players with a lot of hearts and nothing to do with them

[frail trellis]

Wait I made a mistake here in the translator AAAAAAAHHHH

I'm wondering about how those normal capes can evolve, for level 1 to 2

[frail trellis]

For sure, I thought there was something behind it, a lore

[inner basalt]

fire prophet that type of man to literally rant about what they like

[low spindle]

Love fire prophet with all my heart

[inner basalt]

he is so me 🫶 we all love fire prophet ngl

[slate saffron]

Stone soup, possible or not possible?

[brisk python]

it's only not possible if you're a coward

[slender sphinx]

cement soup

[sharp lichen]

Fire Prophet is PEAK

[pastel brook]

this is all an enigma to me..

[inner basalt]

he’s the type of guy to mess around with skykids

[pastel brook]

You are all so cool!

Next up: Analyzing the diet of crabs

[untold notch]

there's a story about this

[pastel brook]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/593565781166391316/832872714967842826/Untitled90_20210416150354.png

[slate saffron]

Impossible. Let me go grab a pot

[sharp lichen]

Let’s fill it with butterfly juice first, a real stone soup can’t exist without it

[half shadow]

prarie elder’s protein smoothing recipie:

step one: butterflies

step two: blender

[lusty merlin]

Prairie elder would never blend butterflies

[hushed steeple]

why are there flowers in an oob in the hall of harmonies

[untold notch]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wild pasture]

Maybe a leftover artifact from development? Or maybe reused assets?

[hushed steeple]

ohh I seee

[untold notch]

oobs are weird

[spring python]

Probably a “if we remove this the whole game collapses” thing

[fickle wing]

load bearing flowers

[keen shore]

is scaredy cadet still stuck up there?

[untold notch]

whuh

[tepid veldt]

how long have they been up there

[keen shore]

an entire year…

[tepid veldt]

…thats not great

[untold notch]

free them

[signal spire]

im just theorizing based on that theory i proposed the other day here, (that anyone with a powerful enough mind or imagination can create a space in vault). I kinda feel that respiratory refuge supports it. Like if you compare it to the rest of vault, it feels pretty geometric, kind of like unfinished? I feel that could be explained by having it be some area made in haste for the influx of people searching for refuge, like getting it done quickly was the main goal. Maybe the quest giver made it?

[untold notch]

the repository is wacky silly I agree that's super interesting

[brisk python]

jailed for their sins.

[round parrot]

Plopping this here

*The spirits have found the concept of gender

What crimes will they commit*

||(/ref to worm on a string and the latest 📌)||

[untold notch]

grand larceny

[rigid iron]

Identity theft

[lusty merlin]

Tax fraud

[frigid tinsel]

highway robbery

[tepid veldt]

vandalism

[sharp lichen]

Internet piracy

[untold notch]

physical piracy

[rigid iron]

fishing without a license

[slender sphinx]

loitering

[half shadow]

pirates

oh wait that was already said. uh. grand theft auto?

election fraud

[sharp lichen]

Assembly Guide was illegally voted in as scoutmaster

[half shadow]

ill take it

[sterile orchid]

this also fits with Abyss

[half shadow]

okay what about the elders now

[sharp lichen]

They’ve likely committed more than enough crimes

[half shadow]

yeah.

[sharp lichen]

Isle: environmental degradation, unsafe mask conditions

Prairie: Illegal usage of fertilizers, sleeping in the job

Forest: Usage of numerous poisons, smithing without a license

Valley: The Athletic Department dies at the sight of them

Wasteland: War crimes (?)

Vault: probably information censorship

[half shadow]

incredible thank you

Eden: they were a monarch, need i say more

[frigid tinsel]

I'll have you know that my browser froze upon opening this gif, how big is it

[lusty merlin]

20 mb :3

[zealous relic]

Has there been a season called Season of Restoration?

[frigid tinsel]

jesus chrysler, tac, you and your chonky files

[lusty merlin]

It’s what the twins deserve

[keen shore]

I want you to understand that I am holding myself back from fiercely defending Dawn and Night right now like one might hold a rabid dog back from attacking innocent beasts.

[rigid iron]

I think valley has many OSHA violations

[rigid mural]

night has receipts on every other elder, source: dude trust me

[lusty merlin]

Ya I have to agree I’m super confused on if these are being serious on how you’d come to some of these conclusions

[keen shore]

Valley when they’re in an OSHA violation contest and Forest walks in

[frigid tinsel]

resisting reviving the Night blackmail meme

[regal marsh]

As a mechanic I actually laughed at this

[rigid mural]

HELP

[rigid iron]

#1 no railings

[lusty merlin]

Urge to read osha violations and see how many times valley actually breaks them

[rigid mural]

actual mechanics playing sky: "this isnt osha compliant !"

do you think sky osha is different since they got flying mounts and platforms tho

[keen shore]

Probably. Gravity seems lower too so I guess they can fall from higher without getting hurt as badly??

[lusty merlin]

Doesn’t excuse the 0 handrails in the citadel

[frigid tinsel]

Backflip:

[rigid mural]

yeah the citadel isnt accomodating to ancestors with a physical disability

[keen shore]

i rememeber seeing the vault elevator with stairs leading up to it and just sighing

[rigid mural]

HELP

[frigid tinsel]

Sky kingdom is not accessible if you have mobility issues

[lusty merlin]

Can’t believe it💔💔💔💔💔

[rigid mural]

maybe they take the manta wheelchair up ?

[lusty merlin]

(Jinx) Feel like with mantas you can have one as a personal Carrier but smh smh

[keen shore]

this entire workaround would not be necessary if night didn’t put STAIRS under their ELEVATOR for NO DISCERNIBLE REASON /lh

[frigid tinsel]

I mean, yea, manta chairs or just being ferried around by mantas

[rigid iron]

Gonna sue these people for ten billion candles

[rigid mural]

tbf they dont give free horses to people with mobility issues

[lusty merlin]

Ah yes me, my friend, and my other friend and their giant service manta riding the elevator

[keen shore]

this gave me the visual of someone trying to make the vault elevator more accessible by replacing the stairs leading up with smaller elevators

[rigid mural]

They put a ramp in citadel for wheelchairs but you needed to take stairs to reach them

[lusty merlin]

Fair 💔 dark-stone wheelchair that can float then?

[regal marsh]

Hey. We break more OSHA violations in a day than you say hello to someone in a week
Every time we do something an OSHA handbook implodes somewhere

[frigid tinsel]

this is literally my college campus

[lusty merlin]

Arnet the ramps too steep aswell?💀

[keen shore]

I do wish we got some more crumbs as to ancestors with physical disabilities in Sky esp how they work as spirits I want to know so bad

[rigid mural]

Typical Valley mindset ⬆️ /j

[lusty merlin]

Samee, like we got one small look at backflip with crutches but that’s it and veterans cane

[keen shore]

i am reconsidering. Valley breaks OSHA daily while forest does not even have an OSHA

[rigid mural]

We do have bereft Veteran with a cane but I agree with you

[frigid tinsel]

Wounded Warrior limps so I'm 👀

well their walk cycle in the Repository after their quest they don't limp, but in the cutscene after their second quest they do limp so I think one can imply that they limp most of the time despite being a spirit

[rigid iron]

If you don't have any regulations, you can't violate them

[untold notch]

the eden diamond rn:

[keen shore]

This mindset is why all the miners in Forest are like that.

[lusty merlin]

Mindful miner in a crop top

[frigid tinsel]

barefooot too

[rigid mural]

work uniform

[keen shore]

YEAH, them limping as a spirit implies physical pain carries over to spirits after ancestors die. Which is incredibly interesting to me because I wonder when that cutoff ends — like, do all ancestors who died of a wound feel that pain as spirits, or do they only feel that pain if they were wounded for a certain period of time before their death? Is wounded warrior just limping because they limped a while before their death, not because they actually feel pain, and if so why doesn’t bereft veteran limp as well? I have so many questions

[rigid iron]

Ok so like what if I wanted to dump sludge out of big cartoon pipes and let crabs play in it, that doesn't seem to be addressed here

[keen shore]

I think each of these instructions is violated at least once somewhere in the realms.

[rigid mural]

i dont think there's explosives we can find in sky
yet

[lusty merlin]

Bea what website are you looking at cuz now I wanan do some research

[rigid iron]

I love the use of encourage in point 2, I am definitely encouraged by wasteland conditions. I thrive there

[keen shore]

Wasteland conditions make me feel happy, fulfilled, and thriving

[rigid mural]

to people that reacted with the eden diamond:

• we don't know if it was a storage area
• we don't know if it counts as flammable conditions
• i'd like to see you try moving it

[rigid iron]

I just looked up OSHA hazardous waste and there was an article about it but I'm pretty sure OSHA has their own website

[lusty merlin]

Yaya ty! Just trying to find a full list that state each rule but it’s complex

[keen shore]

I bet I could give it a really strong kick and it would move personally

[rigid mural]

we should send ten thousand cats to eden for that purpose

[keen shore]

I agree with this, mostly because they have to go through vault first :3

[rigid mural]

i rescind my statement

[keen shore]

throws this back into the chat at terrifying speed

[rigid iron]

Oh my god they have a whole page on ladder standards. Quick, who has pictures of every ladder in the game?

[keen shore]

Off the top of my head, I don’t trust any ladder in Vault

[fickle wing]

i feel ill i was skimming past and through that the 1 was t posing daleth for a sec and scrolled back so fast

[untold notch]

it manifests into rain's hammer and rkos me out of their pocket dimension

[round parrot]

I might have been hallucinating but I swear I saw a ladder in Battlefield

[untold notch]

(the image of this keeps sending me)

[rigid iron]

I don't remember what they look like but I don't think they do this

[slate saffron]

Can they even climb?

Do the-
Do the sky kids have muscles?

Are they pathetic little baby men without the ability to exert force on the world around them OR could one beat me to death

[rigid iron]

Gimme a sec I'm going to vault

[frigid tinsel]

there's a tumblr post stating that skykids may have needle-like legs but they have the optimal wrist to hand ratio to be excellent boxers

[untold notch]

they can but it doesn't work well, I've tried

[rigid iron]

I give them a pass

[half shadow]

the ancestor ladders are much more fun to hop on than climb normally

it’s not an inability it is just their whimsical nature

[sterile orchid]

tbf why would you climb when you could just go over and stand next to a light, then flap once and reach the same height as the top of the ladder

i'm sure the act of flying and having to use their arms to guide themselves while flying means they have a good amount of arm strength

[untold notch]

it's mostly in the cape

[sterile orchid]

there's still a good amount of flying that moves their arms around

[untold notch]

true, but I'm saying that because without a cape you Plummet

[sterile orchid]

the cape is like hang gliders IRL except it can go up

[half shadow]

when i was a little kid i was so sure that if i jumped and could pump my arms up and down fully three times i would start flying. skykids can just do that

[untold notch]

it's not fair... it should have been me

why can they do it and we can't...

[buoyant granite]

Did anyone else notice that in the drawing of where the king alef should be is collapsed?

When You are reborning You can see the statues of the elders, Besides, what will be in the flying part of the castle? it shines a lot

[fickle wing]

sky is so cool i wish clouds were real

[inner basalt]

sky is so cool i wish the valley elders were real(im copinh)

[lusty merlin]

Real

[hushed steeple]

Does anyone know what the blue eggs in hidden forest are of?

[round parrot]

sky is so cool i wish therapy mantas were real

[hushed steeple]

They are too big to be bird eggs so what else?

[round parrot]

the blue eggs were a leftover quest from Light Awaits, which was basically like the "admire a bloom sapling" but for eggs.

[hushed steeple]

But what creature layed those eggs?

Are those manta eggs or something else?

[round parrot]

based on the markings on it, I believe that it was hand painted by ancestors.

[hushed steeple]

Maybe but like what creature? What creature has babies of that size?

They are the size of a chibi.

[round parrot]

it could be ancestor-made, not necessarily an egg from another creature.

[hushed steeple]

So ancestors laid eggs?

But why make a egg in a nest? What's the intention?

[round parrot]

idk
ancestors being silly ig

[hushed steeple]

There has to be a lore reasoning. Why make fake eggs?

Mantas were harvested for their light. So they maybe changed manta eggs with fake eggs to protect them from being harvested by the forest elder?

[round parrot]

there isn't a canon explanation for this as far as I know.

not everything ingame can be explained

[hushed steeple]

I am really curious about this. Maybe they are whale eggs cause there was a whale skeleton in hidden forest?

[round parrot]

it could be ANYTHING, as long as headcanons exist, anything could be stated without any proof

[hushed steeple]

There are only two possibilities, whale or manta, cause the size of birds and crabs is too small and krills are born from mantas. So it's either of those two. I am leaning towards whale cause I don't think manta babies would be that big.

Jellyfish are also out of the question cause of their size

[round parrot]

there is no proof in game to explain the existence of these eggs, nor a similar sighting to compare these eggs to

while it is fun to speculate, we should keep in mind that this won't be proven anytime soon (depending on the story tgc decides to take)

[hushed steeple]

Yeah that's true. Maybe in a future season we will get to know more about these

[lusty merlin]

Yeah, plus myst stated the reason why they’re there in the first place, legit only there for a scrapped quest.

I don’t think sky’s priority is to show light creature lifecycles anytime soon and I doubt they will

[inner basalt]

sky is so beautiful i wish sah and mekh were my frie💥

mekh listens to vocaloid fight me idc they definitely do

[round parrot]

full volume

[quasi harbor]

Tfw ash said the valley elders eats their apples with salt and pepper

[inner basalt]

DEFINITELY also sah always asks them what their listening to and she says (she/they mekh is in my heart im sorry) “uhhhhhhhhhhh i don’t know”

[round parrot]

nonono I believe it would be all "WHAT'D YOU SAY?!? I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THIS MUSIC"

[inner basalt]

“HUH??? WHAT?? IM SORRY? WHAT AGAIN?” also
( also if pjsekai(a rhythm game i play) existed in this universe. she would BLAST more more jump and wonderlands x showtime songs definitely )

[round parrot]

so true

[halcyon hull]

The color is like clothes, maybe these are children of the clothes?

[south saddle]

sah listens to tiktok edit audio playlists with goofy titles

[round parrot]

ah
the edit audio phase

classic

[south saddle]

what do u think rain would listen to. either classical piano and violin or punk I think there is no inbetween

wait do you think classical punk exists

oh my god

these r kinda a vibe ngl

[sour patrol]

Maybe they are the eggs of the whale that you can find i under the ground in the forest….

[hushed steeple]

Maybe that's a very compelling possibility

[past fjord]

or perhaps it is the big creatures skull and bones that you see in the graveyards

[eternal totem]

I like to think they're just fake eggs, crafted and painted

[south depot]

Can someone explain to me the lore we got from shattering

[sharp lichen]

I have a 30 minute YouTube video if you’re interested

[south depot]

Sure

[sharp lichen]

#promote-your-sky-content message

[south depot]

hi, can someone explain how wasteland became such a wasteland

i’m sorry i’m asking so many questions, i’m trying to compile a google docs of the lore

[cold sparrow]

pollution and war, most likely, but we don't know specifics

[south depot]

alright, thank you. is there any reason (canon or fanon)that valley has no pollution or corruption?

[untold notch]

most of the war was fought in wasteland is my thought

especially with the cyclones and everything

[south depot]

the what now 😟

[cold sparrow]

the cyclone you jump through at the start of GW

[south depot]

ohhhh

[sharp lichen]

Oh we already have that 💀 but you can make your own!

Ask away, my answer to this is similar reasons to why Isle became a desert: environmental neglect

[sterile mauve]

Why is eden in sky called as eden. Was it called as eden pre darkness too?

[sterile mauve]

Biology left the chat

[cold sparrow]

biology was never in a chat full of creatures made of literal light and flying through the air like hot air balloons

[cold sparrow]

we don't know
there's little reason to think otherwise, but there is not a lot of records of what ancestors may have called things ages ago
all we have are wordless murals

[sterile mauve]

True tho. There's a limit to fiction too. Saying jellyfish coming from a whale just doesn't make sense. As simple as that

[cold sparrow]

I believe this was about whether the eggs are from a whale or a jellyfish
not about jellyfish being from a whale

[sterile mauve]

Ah ok i misread

[half shadow]

I like that one piece of concept art that links the lightshrooms and the jellyfish as part of the same evolutionary tree, I don’t really know if I consider it a real theory anymore but I do think it’s cool as hell

but also yeah it’s hard to stay in line with real world biology when everything is basically magic

[sour patrol]

Biology never been in the room, but imagination plenty so why not …

[half shadow]

It probably was called Eden, seeing as it was presumably the highest peak of the kingdom and no doubt held great religious significance. The ancestors would take pilgrimages to the top of the mountain, and many believe this was to reach the ultimate goal of ascending

[inner basalt]

definitely (sorry for late reply my phone died)

[south saddle]

lol it's fine i only just woke up anyways

[inner basalt]

OH ok
anyway back to doing silly thibgs
“hey have y-“
“WHAT?? HUH? I CANT HEAR YOU IM LISTENING TO MUSIC WHAT????”
“okay then chill 😟”

[static zephyr]

“uhhh what’s going on over here?”

[inner basalt]

and then uhhhhhhuhuhuhhh
“well-“
“HUH?”
“ohmygod. MEKH IS LISTENING TO MUSIC AND THEY WONT TURN IT DOWN”

[static zephyr]

“meh nothing I can do if you need me I’ll be taking a nap”

[wild pasture]

I would like to think it was called Eden before. A literal hellscape has little reason to be named after the mythical garden of paradise, unless it was called that before it became the hellscape it is now. Unless there's something TGC is trying to say about religion... With their all inclusive mindset, though, I doubt that's what's going on, so it must have been named Eden before.

My theory is, back in its prime, Eden was a paradise itself. A beautiful place, maybe even a wonderful garden like it's namesake. Or maybe it was a "7th wonder" of Sky, not unlike the hanging gardens of Babylon, which would fit very well the theme of "man" (ancestors) bringing about ruination with their pride that seems to be present in Sky. Though, if that were the case, Eden should be called Babylon or the Tower of Babel... So guess that's just a dead end idea.

Point is, it was likely Eden before, because that is not a garden paradise, lol.

[frigid tinsel]

My guess is that TGC is not invoking religion into this world but using the religious connotation to state something analogous had happened in the Sky world’s terms.

Thinking how in Japanese, Eden is called “Original Sin.”

[half shadow]

Exactly like Alasdair said, it’s called similar Big Important names in other languages. I wonder what else it’s called in ones beside Japan and English?

[sharp lichen]

I think the names of the kingdoms are of before the Skykids, like Valley of Triumph wouldn’t be called that now with nobody there

[half shadow]

although i feel like “golden wasteland” is a weird one

[wild pasture]

If it were just big important names, Babel would fit the theme of Sky so much better in my eyes than Eden. Babel was literally the height of human pride, and it fell because of their pride, and it's easily a big enough name that people would know it. Just like Eden did. Unless they're just picking names for the name's sake, then there's got to be another reason it's named Eden.

Even Original Sin could potentially refer to Eden, or an Eden-like thing. The Garden of Eden was the place of the Original Sin, Adam and Eve eating of the Apple. That tells me that Eden definitely has to be more than just a name drop.

[lusty merlin]

Well it was called golden valley in the seven days of sky tweet, maybe it was changed to fit the wasteland theme and all?

[sharp lichen]

In the English version, it’s not called Eden, it’s called the EYE of Eden. The center. Eden probably refers to the whole kingdom of Ancestors.

The tale of Eden represents humanity consuming knowledge and thus leaving God. If this allegory was taken to the Sky world, it could mean the Ancestors leaving The Light and building an advanced civilization.

[half shadow]

oh no I was meaning to agree with you - I mean it’s already pretty heavily implied that Eden was a site of religious importance as it was the endpoint of the pilgrimage the ancestors would take through the kingdom. It’s also where the castle presumably resides. Thematically the name Eden makes sense both as a past and a present name, with the context of it being somewhere as sanctified as the garden of Eden before the destruction, and being a reminder of the concept of unforgivable mistakes (alluding to whatever the Ancestors/King did to cause the eruption) tainting a once beautiful place into somewhere you can never go again.

[sharp lichen]

I still think GW was a wasteland even before the Skykids came, perhaps it got that name in the later stages

[half shadow]

i feel like it would be sort of strange kingdom-planning-wise to have a place like the valley of triump and the Vault+Eden with just somewhere as totally blank and devoid of anything that would inspire calling it a wasteland

[lusty merlin]

I can see as the war went on and the land was destroyed, it could’ve been nicknamed as wasteland by the soldiers and refugees

[half shadow]

we do have evidence of buildings/temples there though, there was clearly stuff there before the War and destruction

[wild pasture]

It seems like Wasteland may have been the "industrial district" of the Sky kingdom before the war. Pollution from their processes may have lead to/contributed to the fall of the area.

[sharp lichen]

We also see spirits there navigating ruined versions of the buildings

[half shadow]

yeah, I think those spirits could’ve been either during the war when everything in the area was already all messed up or in the process of being messed up

[sharp lichen]

Let me find it…

In Mandarin, it’s Eden

In Russian it’s Heart of Eden

In Spanish it’s Eye of Eden

In French it’s Eye of Eden

In German it’s Eye of Eden

In Indonesian it’s Eden Center

In Italian it’s Eye of Eden

In Korean it’s Eye of Eden

In Vietnamese, it’s Lost Paradise

Bolded ones are different from Eye of Eden

They still reaffirm my theory that Eye of Eden is only the center of an entire kingdom named Eden

[half shadow]

oooooo nice!!

[frigid tinsel]

I think it’s referring to the “eye of the storm” motif since the Storm centered over Eden

Even then, the bolded names still refer to Christian mythos. The Garden of Eden was supposed to be “paradise on Earth” and man’s original sin evicted them from paradise — they lost paradise. “Heart” and “center” are synonymous symbolically

[sharp lichen]

True, but it would still mean Eden referred to the whole kingdom

[untold notch]

im of the opinion that valley was the capital considering how central it is and also how its a much more residential area than eden which more resembles golden wasteland architecturally

[south depot]

oh yea i’ve seen the basic lore document, i want to make a more in depth one. this is a project that i’ve been wanting to do for a while now

[sharp lichen]

I know, but Eden was still more important, since it’s the mountain where you ascend

[untold notch]

to us, i thought spirits ascended at their elders temples

[sharp lichen]

And the light creatures’ final destination as well

[untold notch]

that's fair, but the spiritual and physical capitals could easily be different places

[sharp lichen]

It says Valley is the downtown/ economic hub of the city. Maybe Eden could take a more regulatory role?

[untold notch]

I'm gonna keep bringing up the architecture because i feel like its important

what indeed is up with all those pipes

[half shadow]

mario in there

[untold notch]

so that's why the king is at mario world...

[forest iris]

Since Sky is in bitter need of both better Elder gifts and more lore, I offer you my idea:

Once all Constellations have been completed, in Orbit the elders combine their power to open a portal to the Garden.

The Garden (of Eden) is the last, uncorrupted place on the mountain. It is located inside the castle we see upon ascending. It is the place where the Mega Bird, a deity above the Elders, took shelter when it saw the Kingdom of Sky become divided by the war.

(Alternate names for the Garden is the Aviary, or the Heart of Eden, but I prefer the Garden because of it's connection to the biblical Garden of Eden- a paradise in which the corruption has been locked out of.)

The place is blossoming with light mushrooms, wisterias, vines, and starlight pours in through a dome above. All of the Constellations can be seen in it.

The Elder Bird thanks by offering the player the Wings of the Ascended, which are pure white bird wings with gorgeous feathers.

(Perhaps after thanking the player, the elder Bird can now 'rest' since peace has been restored. It flies away into the stars, disappears in a blinding light, or something similar.)

These wings allow access to new locations with lore in the six realms that I will think of later. The Elder Bird has preserved these locations with its power and they can now be accessed.

Sorry for the text wall, but I think this really should be a thing

[sharp lichen]

#wishlist-and-ideas-archived moment unfortunately, I wish something like this could happen

[rigid iron]

By deity above the elders I believe you mean megabird. The elder bird is a different bird that only appears in a single cutscene at the end of rhythm

[pastel brook]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/593565781166391316/832872714967842826/Untitled90_20210416150354.png

[sharp lichen]

Shush!

[signal dust]

I heard there is a "king of eden" is it true?

[sharp lichen]

The King is a name that is used to refer to a bunch of characters/events. The name is usually tied to the Chosen One in Prophecy, or the Eden mural in the Vault cutscene. The developers have said that a King exists in Sky’s canon, but not in the way we think.

[signal dust]

ooh okay. thanks

[sharp lichen]

There are many, many theories involving the king, since we know so little

[pale mason]

If skykids are supposed to be dolls, why do we need oxygen underwater?

[sharp lichen]

I think, given we can fly in space, the blue meter isn’t actually oxygen. Maybe it’s the water snuffing out our light slowly

[pale mason]

But we’re pretty fine on the surface of the water. Why is under the sea dangerous for us?

[lusty merlin]

wait why do you think they're dolls if i may ask?

[sharp lichen]

Skykids do not react well to water, look at the Hidden Forest’s rain and the Trial of Water. This is just a slower version of it. Maybe it’s because they’re completely submerged?

[pale mason]

There is a theory that skykids are clay dolls

[sharp lichen]

Yeah, they seem to be made of clay or an earth-like material

[lusty merlin]

Made of clay, yeah, but I don’t know where the doll aspect came from at all

[frigid tinsel]

“Golem” is a more apt word

[lusty merlin]

Ah yeah golems, like elemental ones?

[pale mason]

Oh yeah golem. Sorry I misremembered

If the oxygen meter depletes, our main light (the star thing, not the flaps/pizza slice) gets drained right?

[lusty merlin]

I think so yea

Then again the abyss ult has a snorkel mask ult and abyss guide has one too (free version) , so I do think it’s some type of oxygen

Fire does need oxygen to survive

[pale mason]

The mask doesn’t look like a snorkel too, it looks like they’re covering something rather than giving passage for air
I am talking about the free snorkel mask, not the ult

[lusty merlin]

Rebreather, that was the term, I got them mixed up

That’s like the most visually similar one, and it’s purpose is to basically recycle the oxygen used, we even get a larger oxygen meter with them on

So the reason for losing light could be literal. We’re possibly made of clay yeah, but our core could be made of some sort fire, as we pull out a candle (core actually dims when we do)

[pale mason]

I wonder if water pressure has something to do with it?

[lusty merlin]

And I think until we fully submerged ourselves in water we can sustain ourselves, because our sky-kids *do *breath

Maybe, but even if we’re a few feet under the water the oxygen deceases at the same speed, then again sky doesn’t follow logic usually (flying mantas and children)

[pale mason]

And birds turning into mantas for some reason

And that Tail of a Whale statue in the Abyss that grants us ability to dive underwater (at least before devs made the ability available at the start)

I wonder what creature is it? Is it connected to the blue ghost fish swimming around the underwater observation area?

[lusty merlin]

Stealing from an old YouTube video but it’s definitely a manta that comes visit after we sit (maybe a manta tail?)

[frigid tinsel]

Spirit manta of a sorts. Has that color palette of spirits that weren’t ascended

[lusty merlin]

We already have cosmic spirit mantas, maybe ones that died in the water became that type of manta?

[frigid tinsel]

Tbf we aren’t certain what cosmic mantas come from

[lusty merlin]

True

[half shadow]

I’ve always seen it as the skykids not needing to breathe, but the farther away they are from the surface of the water the farther away they are from the Light that soaks up in shallow water, like the areas with the greenery in the Treasure Reef you can basically stay underwater indefinitely within. if they needed to breathe air they wouldn’t be able to do that

i want to know more about my blue fish serpent friend from the reef. i like them i want to know their secrets

[frigid tinsel]

Yea I agree — I don’t believe they need to breathe. They need light to live and deeper in the depths there isn’t as much light

[half shadow]

and my reasoning behind the “dive masks” is that they both contain small power diamonds inside, which contains a small amount of light to boost their ability to stay underwater

[frigid tinsel]

I know I had written a thing way back when Abyss was going on musing about how they lose light to the darkness in the water but I’m too tired to look for it

[halcyon hull]

I don't know more but wiki says it's eel

[half shadow]

i love them

[frigid tinsel]

The Sky wiki isn’t official and some things on there are wrong or just based on speculation.

TGC dropped Season of Abyss and a ton of new creatures and refused to name any of them

[round parrot]

Gives me freedom to name the Leviathan "Big Silly Creature"

[sterile orchid]

the name "blue eel" from the wiki fits the long blue guy, but it would be cool if it were a "light dragon"

[pale mason]

Oh I see. I wan’t sure how to look at that statue. It looks both like a tail and a manta

[wispy dust]

We do our best with the names and try to stick with official names as much as possible. Unfortunately, we run into difficulties when Sky doesn't name everything in the game. We sometimes (like the creatures from Abyss) have to name things ourselves but we usually look to the community to see what names people already use/ make a judgement call to the best of our abilities. If there's something outright wrong or outdated, please let us know! You can @ me directly or DM, or leave a message on the wiki if you have and account there. We want to make sure that we have good info, but we're "understaffed" (lol not quite the right term because our contributors are volunteers)

[slate saffron]

Petition to mayhaps invade the sky wiki with a terrible malice & vengeance.

I am willing to contribute 5 dollars for exclusive use of the Macdonald's dollar menu for this most noble of endeavors.

For the sake of lore accuracy, course'

[lusty merlin]

Just realized but the <◇> symbol on the elders, the twins are the only one who doesn’t have the arrows on theirs. So I wonder if it’s like an evolved symbol? Like how after awhile we get the lvl 2 wl symbol on our capes (star with an outline.) Not saying the twins were elders in training, more like they could’ve been the youngest and after a long while they would’ve gained the arrows on their diamonds like the other elders get

Also ’s is super intersting since they are the only elder who has the symbol on their back, and the twins also have the diamond on their back aswell so that’s a cool connection

Pure speculation but hgg brainrot

[rustic glen]

Reminds me of Madeon's symbol for his first album

[halcyon hull]

the twins also have fewer shiny patterns on their clothes than the other elders

[lusty merlin]

Yay I also notice that

Wonder if the patterns are earned, like how with ascending everytime you gain more base wl, and thus more stars showing how long you’ve been around

[lusty merlin]

I’m fully seeing that as being a coincidence since Madrona and Tgc have never seemed to interact but it’s a cool one nonetheless

But yeah elder patterns are definitely unique, ’s cutscene shows that really well as we legit see the patterns form to glow on their robe. Like yeah you can see them even without the light, but it’s shown again that once an elders had the lights again, their patterns return in a brilliant glow. Which is a unique quirk only to them as no ancestor or skykid is able to do that with the patterns they have. You do have skykid cape recharge but I see that being different

I want elder lore so bad not even heavy lore just, lore about anything on them. What they’re like, more insight to their personality, how they were like as an elder, what they even do just GHHHHHHH

Closest we got to a crumb was flight guide canonically being Prarie elder’s apprentice, and possibly rememberance guide being vaults apprentice but that’s hopeful speculation ;/;

[sterile orchid]

i need more lore for all my big blorbos that are the Sky elders so far we have memes as content but. not being canon makes me sad

[lusty merlin]

Just remembered isle appeared in the runaway section at the aurora concert for like a few seconds but other than that nothing

Tgc pspspsp I promise adding content to deepen the elders character’s won’t ruin the “up to interpretation” vibe you have going on pspspsp

Yeah that’s my cue to sleep

[sterile orchid]

we have the cutscenes (all of them returning for the end of Vault's), calling them into Orbit, and. one being visble for a few seconds other than that

i should also go to bed it's 4 am

[inner basalt]

mekh listens to kpop okay bye

[round parrot]

idk why but those symbols remind me of
just food for thought

[round parrot]

new headcanon
rookie diamond workers (aka ancestors who were pretty new to making diamonds) or diamond workers who have kids had at least one of these laying around (in their homes, if not their workspace)

either to pass the time or to experiment with possible shapes for diamonds (or both)
(maybe also play with their kids at the same time if they have any)

[ebon wind]

I interpreted it as the sky kids cores being smothered cashing them to go dim, when a sky kid pulls out a candle it little chest light(heart/core) is removed, my thought process is that this core acts like real world flames(with some differences) in which when the flame no longer has access to oxygen it fades out and perhaps our abyss masks provide a little extra energy to keep the core alight. I wouldn't say they need to breath but rather need access to the air around them. It's a bit of an iffy subject imo.

[zealous relic]

My made up season called Season of Restoration

• The entire Sky is under siege by unforseen danger making dark dragons and crabs freely enter different realms. Only 6 spirits that harbor the orbs of restoration will restore and banish the darkness that entered the realms before they completely overwhelm.

[marble lynx]

Well, in Chinese (mandarin) official name , it's "Storm eye" (暴風眼)

暴風 = storm ，眼 = eye

[plush field]

Hi what mask are u on about that help with the breathing under water x

[halcyon hull]

From season of abyss the one which becomes buyable when you complete the last quest

[round parrot]

I'm pretty sure the ult and the igc versions are just the same. (though, the ult has a longer oxygen meter)

[oblique nacelle]

Hello lore people , I have a question, does the elders have names ? like most frequently used headcanon names

[round parrot]

Elder Names by Alasdair#8513

The Elders (plus the king & prince) have names based off Hebrew letters from concept development that are no longer canon, though the fandom sometimes refers to them as such:
Isle – Daleth (ד)
Prairie – Ayin (ע)
Forest – Teth (ט)
Valley – Samekh (ס) (they share a name, though the fandom refers to as Sah and as Mekh)
Wasteland – Tsadi (צ)
Vault – Lamed (ל)
Prince – Alef (א)
King – Resh (ר)

Though it seems the devs refer to the Elders by the times of day their realms represent:
Isle – Dawn
Prairie – Day
Forest – Rain
Valley – Sunset
Wasteland – Dusk
Vault – Night
Eden – Storm

Hope this helps
(also I hope nobody minds me copy-pasting, it was my first instinct)

[inland cliff]

judging by the summer hat, i bet you took it from noob mode vid

[obsidian inlet]

So did the clouds exist when the ancestors were around? And how did they get around when most if not all lacked the power of flight in the early days. Did they use mantas? Did they wade through it? Or float along it?

[south depot]

Season of flight shows the usage of cloud boats to travel between places that were separated by clouds

[obsidian inlet]

But I mean before the age of power diamonds

I should have been more clear. The notes came when diamonds became a thing. I'm more so wondering of the time before then

[inland cliff]

the age of diamonds is what led people to move to the cloud layers at the first place

[obsidian inlet]

Ooooooohhhhh I see, so there was a greater land below we don't have access to now. I didn't know that.

I'm assuming, considering the ancestors had cloth clothes and some fur clothes, that they had more ground based animals below the clouds much like our earth.

I apologize for all these questions. I'm making a tabletop game version of Sky judy before and during the wars. So I am trying to absorb as much knowledge as possible

[runic apex]

I am not sure if this is the right time/place/subject... but j am confused.. is this official lore or grey area official and some educated speculation? I tried to look for a description but did not find one...

That being said, I am running a rather complex sky RP with home brew lore (plausible only) on a lot of this stuff. It is interesting to see these other views but dang I am confused now! Is it possible to have subject threads here?

Like Abyss, Mantas, etc? Would make it much easier to read...

[runic apex]

I have an Aurora version of this I use un an RP.

[untold notch]

it's mostly speculation, there isn't a lot of official lore at least to me

[runic apex]

Thank you

I feel less self conscious now🤣

[sharp lichen]

There is a small collection of a bit of canon lore: https://docs.google.com/document/d/12XSkaMV_5UYG-an_Qo37ItyKP6GaqBBA6iRqBVE2qck/edit

[runic apex]

Thanks!

I really appreciate the info from everyone!

[untold notch]

the theme of the game is things being up to interpretation mostly

[obsidian inlet]

Is the land below the sky lands that rest in the clouds just kinda like larger versions of the above cloud variants?

[sharp lichen]

We don’t even know if there are lands below the clouds. The closest we have is the Golden Wasteland

[untold notch]

or the sanctuary islands

[half shadow]

new areas in the world keep being revealed with the seasons so who knows what’s out there!

[obsidian inlet]

Well ya that and the island area in the prairie. And the Isls. I'm just assuming so because there are depictions of people making pilgramiges to the temples of the Elders.

Though now thinking about it if the examples we have now are anything to go off of there seems to be multiple areas on the land that still exist, all reflecting the main area in which they hail. It is very likely that the lands below may be as those above

[sharp lichen]

I’d assume the Ancestors originated from the Orbit area

[obsidian inlet]

True, I do believe they decended before the first ancestors as well, which would make sense as to why they were established so high or centrally

Since the twins of the valey, and the elder of the wastes seem to have temples that are more grounded

[sharp lichen]

In the opening cutscene it says “all are born by starlight” so it would make sense if the ancestors originated from up above

[lusty merlin]

i mean in the all is soft inside section of the aurora concert, the forest caves clouds are completely removed to see a huge lake beneath so its definitely possible. Also when going through the small cloud tunnel when leaving prairie social space, there seems to be the tip of sort sort of pillars sticking out

[half shadow]

I think it’s safe to say while there were def clouds present in the past, either Eden’s eruption or just time itself has led a lot of them to shift around and probably obscure many places like the sanctuary islands and the wind paths

[fickle snow]

a friend of mine sneded this screenshiots, is it just me, OR THATS MEGABIRD

[sharp lichen]

Yeah that is

[gentle junco]

GIGA BIRDY !!!!

[frigid tinsel]

Isle, Sanctuary Islands, and Wasteland are lands below the clouds

[fickle snow]

and i am noticing, THAT there are like shape of skids that look like if they were heafing to the ocnstelation

edit_ no no no... tell me i don t have to go to eden again.. NOOOOOOO-edens

[slate saffron]

Megabird isn't real & I will die.

But not necessarily on this hill

[sturdy wyvern]

Now I’m imagining a group of skykids hanging out in orbit before they descend back to earth, and one of them has the bright idea to make constellations out of their light.

And the first thing they decide to make is themselves

[plush field]

Is it from the chuckling scout x

[copper stump]

Me reading first page of that document; So capes are light so they dont cast shadow? alright.. next sentence, cosmetics are also light and thats why you dont see them on an unlit skykid ....

Wait wait, but you dó see the shape of the cape on an unlit skykid, so apparently its something different then?

[sharp lichen]

Wait, you do? Uhh let me change that

[copper stump]

Yes, you can see if one is wearing the standard cape, one with a woolen edge or ie the turtle one or aurora wings

[frigid tinsel]

Extinguished skykids gave the shape of the cape as long as they still have wings like, but it will be gray, not colored.

[copper stump]

indeed they can also wear no cape

[frigid tinsel]

See:

They are only capeless when they run out of winged light

[copper stump]

I mean in reality they are just saving some bandwide with leaving out details ofc, but they are definitely diffrent, capes and cosmetics.

[frigid tinsel]

You can be lit up and capeless but you can’t fly. It’s only if you have no winged light and don’t die, which is difficult to do

I would still say capes are cosmetics. I say that their base is winged light but colored by neutral light

[copper stump]

Sure cape indeed doesnt cast a shadow, and the murals show clearly that they are of the same material as our internal light

[frigid tinsel]

What mural are you talking about?

[copper stump]

but my point was merely that the cosmetics arent showing up on sky kids on a different reason as the capes

its in the document

[frigid tinsel]

I don’t think winged light is the same as our flame or spirit core, but it does innately connect to skykids’ inner light

I’m trying to find my video of my skid pulling out winged light cos they do so from the hole in their chest. However winged light is external, even if it’s intimately tied to skykids

Winged light is really interesting just in how utterly confusing it can be yet had integral to game it is

[frigid tinsel]

Cosmetics don’t cast a shadow cos they’re made of light, whether it be neutral or winged light

[fickle snow]

Chat!! I have proved the theory

[fickle snow]

NOOOi went to eden for taking the oicture and i forgot o take it 7m7

[south depot]

id like to share with you my headcanons for seasonal spirits + what type of bread the base game spirits would be

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10YftumDhlCpQhb1jdLvgwyxTcUaGQI6vh1Ic1CBNzl0/edit

[sharp lichen]

This is so amazing the bread slideshow will go down in legend

[south depot]

Thank u!!! :]

[inner basalt]

mekh listens to wonder girls and NMIXX
thank you

[brittle flax]

how did eden become the hellscape we know it as today?

[south depot]

Too much Taco Bell /j
Nah but my theory is that they were mining the crystal for energy and then it exploded with darkness. There’s no actual canon reason

[untold notch]

the final shattering memory:

[brittle flax]

hmm... then to add to that... maybe they found a bunch of tiny crystals first, found the mother crystal and instead of leaving it alone they were too greedy?

[south depot]

Shattering was too confusing for me to understand

[brittle flax]

same

[untold notch]

all of the elders are getting exploded by the diamond, is what the last memory shows

I don't know why they were there, my guess was to try to contain it so it wouldn't explode their people they were responsible for, but it didn't end well

[south depot]

Womp womp that’s what they get for hunting mantas, too bad so sad

[keen shore]

I yelled loudly at whale whisperer crouton

They are burnt 💔💔💔💔💔💔

[frigid tinsel]

the creation of the Eden diamond generating a lot of darkness pollution as a byproduct following by said Eden diamond exploding

[keen shore]

It seems to be from the crystal in the middle of the point of no return exploding, hence why the final shattering memory is about it doing so & ‘killing’ the elders, and also why eye of Eden is called that (like the eye of a storm, or its center). However, if the Diamond was supposed to be there or it was put there for other reasons, as well as why it exploded, isn’t known for sure

[fickle wing]

i think they kiss men

[untold notch]

wouldn't the beard get in the way

[half shadow]

they make it work

[fickle wing]

love finds a way

[untold notch]

I see, I see

[tepid veldt]

love has only Ws

[half shadow]

i love Isle elder they’re the most fascinating to me besides the obvious Eden feller

i feel like we have the least understanding about their personality. what’s up with this guy

[fickle snow]

I am dying of both laigter, wdmiration and tears

[sharp lichen]

Love finds a way even when there is no men in the kingdom

[untold notch]

if nobody's a man is everyone a man

[frigid tinsel]

Man^0

[sharp lichen]

The gender economy has crashed

[fickle snow]

Xd

[inner basalt]

well that would be confusing

[lusty merlin]

Beards are still kissable 🎉

[sharp lichen]

HOW DO YOU KISS WITHOUT A MOUTH

[south depot]

Butterfly kisses! (The eyelash thingy)

[half shadow]

• soft clink of masks bumping together *

[inner basalt]

LMFSO

[untold notch]

there could be one under there

[uncut pond]

Gloating spirit:

[inner basalt]

gloating is gay fight m💥

[sharp lichen]

I’m a big mouthless believer

[untold notch]

i am too but specifically for myself

[halcyon hull]

Well, Aurora doesn't have a mouth either, but she does have one.

[frigid tinsel]

Mouths are overrated

[untold notch]

agreed

[soft timber]

Le Petite Prince moment

[uncut pond]

Reject mouths, emЬrace directly absorbìng nutrients from the floor like a plant

[untold notch]

what is up with that b leon

[uncut pond]

My message kept getting deleted for some reason so I tried changing a few characters

[untold notch]

I see I see

[sharp lichen]

Mouths not existing is so important to the structure of Sky that the Little Prince and Aurora don't have them

[uncut pond]

I also only changed the letters in the words "emЬrace" and "absorbìng" so it's one of those 2 words that kept getting censored for some reason
The censored words list in this server feels random sometimes

[flint bolt]

touches goender

[sharp lichen]

Unfortunately, the Kingdom of Gondor does not exist in Sky

[glossy sparrow]

Why don’t we have a mouth in sky

[sharp lichen]

The meta reason is probably because it makes us look more simplistic and child-like. The in-game reason is probably because we don't need it, since we communicate using honks

[untold notch]

I asked megabird not to give me one

[glossy sparrow]

OHH

[wild pasture]

Now I want a LoZ crossover so I can annoy people by screaming "Hey!" and "Listen!" 🤣
No more honks. Only fairy noises.

[frank rivet]

Sky is gay

[raw crypt]

true ‼️

[half shadow]

so true and real

[fickle wing]

YEAH!!!!🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🦅🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈

[vocal forge]

Can someone explain the story or leading story behind the world of sky?

[tepid veldt]

everyone’s a silly goose

[solemn bone]

There were a people who lived before us. They thrived in different realms spread across the kingdom, each specializing in their own craft. They used light creatures for transportation (mantas), they bottled up butterflies to be able to contain and transport them for use, and eventually they realized they could could do more with the light than they thought. Like in cutscenes we see the elders take light, a flame, and create with it. They used this to power doors, make batteries, store knowledge, etc. And then one day they went too far, took too much- we don’t really still know yet- but it was very bad. You know, with great power comes great responsibility. But it’s easy to crack and corrupt with said power.
My guess is they wanted to see how much light/ power they could harness at once, and it backfired. Which caused a ripple effect of, uh, endtimes through all the realms. With this came darkness, and corruption. A corruption of the natural light and power of the realms, due to being manufactured and monopolized

This is a little bit of my take on the lore, I COULD GO ON FOREVER. But who knows if it’s even close

Sorry for the long read

[south saddle]

sky is gay because all the staff and all the players are gay 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈

anyways i take screenshots of funny stuff i see while lurking in this chat so here are a few highlights of my week just for the funnies

why is current discord a different shade of grey than the screenshots... im gonna cry what even

[south saddle]

did i just spend 20 minutes shoving this image violently into a blender to make it lower quality? yes

did i shamelessly use my own art for it? also yes

[half shadow]

@ mods delete every message in this channel save for this. thanks

[raw crypt]

AW THIS IS SO CUTE

[lusty merlin]

K so after watching the light seekers like a cat wanting food this is what I observed

Blue light actually makes the rain itself, and we’re still hurt bu the rain too! So it’s not just a hidden forest quirk.

What’s intersting is that forest elder was seen being given the same blue light in the prophecy mural, so I wonder if it’s the fact it’s artificial rain itself that harms us when regular water doesn’t. Then again you can always chalk it up to it being a mix of pollution in the clouds with the rain that harms us, but I still find this intersting

Piggyback was been trying to bribing forth some light, even managed to bring green particles too which we know from the patch notes that grass will soon grow, so I’m guessing that’s what they’re doing

[wanton hill]

whats the final memory?

ooooooooooooooo

[lusty merlin]

Aw yeah I think that’s the message too, I’m a lot of cultures ||spirits/ghosts walk on the earth because they either have unfinished business or can’t let go of somthing, but here we see all the remmeberance spirits being able to heal.

GOD I THINK VETERAN SEES THEIR KID IN WARRIOR TOI JUST THEY STILL MISS THEIR LOVED ONES BUT THE WEIGHT ON THEIR SHOLDERS HAS NOW EASED OFF ||

Like ||the mantas represent them and that they’ve healed and are ready to move on, to keep their loved ones in rememberance. And they can now move on and continue their journey as spirits, return to the light ||

[hushed steeple]

Do you want to finish the task?

[floral skiff]

Can't seem to turn my firework stick to changing bird migration path mode

[cold sparrow]

if you are having trouble with the game, you might rather want to ask in #questions-and-help
this channel is for talking about the story and world building of the game

[floral skiff]

According to the isle elder scene, the elder uses the stick to change the migration of the light birds

Unfortunately it doesn't do that for players

[lusty merlin]

Yeah but that’s probably a staff unique to them and a ability they themselves can only do. The firework staff we get is from a wasteland solider anyways so it’s probably a different kind, probably used to send signals over long distance with how bright fireworks are

[floral skiff]

Wasteland captain

what better to have then an item that allows for easier navigation

[lusty merlin]

Firework staffs could’ve been used to send a sort of flare/distress signals. Think the reason isle elder uses their staff to migrate birds is because it holds the flame we give, plus doubles as a walking stick. The firework staff from the wasteland captain we have are straighter and smaller when isles has a slight curve near the top so they’re not identical, think it’s just the general sky look for certain canes/staffs

[cold sparrow]

What we have is a fireworks staff, not a bird ushering staff

[floral skiff]

Fair enough but it's strange that two beings associated with boats have an item that look similar

For all we know the stick can do anything because it's also used in a spirit memory to catch butterflies

[cold sparrow]

It's not The stick
as tac explained, that's just a common design for staffs

[floral skiff]

why the fixation on a slight difference?

[lusty merlin]

Just used used for different things, fireworks, catching light ushering the birds ect. staffs to me are like just a another tool used by ancestors, like we have different knives that are made to cut different things, staffs can be the same thing in that way, different purpose

[cold sparrow]

why the fixation on a staff?
let me change the focus of the discussion: What are you trying to point out? What lore implication do you think this has?
Do you think there is only one staff? Do you think all staffs should be able to do all hte things?

In that case, one could say that our skykids maybe just don't know how to shepherd birds and the like. Whether it needs a certain magic we don't possess, or the knowledge how to swing the staff to communicate with the birds.

[lusty merlin]

Yeah plus the ability to heard animals isin’t a skill being able to do overnight. Then again our skykids can do like I think a triple axel in the upgraded twirl emote so (maybe because we’re lighter than clouds so easier to float)

Also thinking game wise I can’t see the reason of us being to do that if it was the same function as the firework staff. Like you’d just stand there and maybe 5 birds would pass overhead in a loop when you do a pose? Would be nice for photos but that’s it.

When fireworks, albiet in the same boat, do help a lot illumating dark places so it atleast has a function.

[floral skiff]

As if talking about a cosmetic item would have a huge lore implications, sorry for not gracing this chat with something significant enough

[cold sparrow]

I'm just not sure what you're asking at all or what sort of point you're trying to make, sorry
Your initial message was quite out of context
Like, yes, the item we've been given is a fireworks staff, not a bird ushering staff
Whether that is just a matter of gameplay, or if those are meant to be fundamentally different staffs with different functions in lore is hard to say
It does make more sense for a wasteland captain to have a staff that can shoot out exploding sparkles, either as flare or as weapon, and wouldn't have much use for one that can guide birds
Perhaps, if we ever get elder props, we could get a different staff that can influence birds (however that looks ingame)

I did not mean to say that talking about the lore implications of a cosmetic item is misplaced in this channel
I just meant to echo your sort of dismissive response tbh

I mean, you came here to point out that a staff we get from a wasteland spirit doesn't do the same thing gameplay-wise we see the Isle Elder do in a cutscene
And we try to give explanations for it

[lusty merlin]

Ya I agree with the first bit.

Also like personally I even see the tiniest things help so much in world building: like food, clothing, and even cosmetics and scenery and architecture can say a lot about that worlds culture, daily lives, and quality of life. So like small things like even a cosmetic can hold significance to a story in its own way.

Also intersting to imagine why a staff in the first place yaknow? Darkstone is right there, and is shown in performance and assembly to make lights, yet they use a staff anyways. Was it all they had or was it a concious choice to not use darkstone? That’s somthing i find cool

[sharp lichen]

This is less story and more lore, but it’s still useful! https://docs.google.com/document/d/12XSkaMV_5UYG-an_Qo37ItyKP6GaqBBA6iRqBVE2qck/edit

[sharp lichen]

Water does hurt us a lot in Sky. From being submerged in water to the Trial of Water, it’s a core weakness of ours.

I still think the Forest Elder created rain as a means of defense, but it grew to be a terrible mistake.

[vocal forge]

Thankyou! no its not that long at all.

[cold sparrow]

I'm not sure if the Trials are a perfect representation of what affects Skykids and how. Just touching the water with our foot already evaporates us, but in the water puddles of Hidden Forest, no such thing happens.
Those trials were made for ancestors and not skykids originally - so would be assume that ancestors share the same weakness about water? I think within the Trial of Water, the water rather represents our failure to be patient and wait for the right moment. If we (or the ancestors) could just swim through the water, that would defeat the purpose of the trial.
Also, an argument could be made that it's in face the coldness of the water that affects us - the entire area is very icy.

[pastel brook]

I, Skybot, judge of all trials, find @cold sparrow to be a cool Sky kid

[cold sparrow]

(x) Doubt

I have to say, in a way, it wouldn't surprise me if Skykids need to breathe
Not with lungs necessarily, but... fire does need oxygen to burn.

[sharp lichen]

Water does hurt us though, if slowly. Ancestors seem to share a similar weakness to water, given that we’ve never seen an Ancestor swim and they seem to hide from the rain

[vocal forge]

water doesn't hurt us if it isn't that deep, but enough water will kill. It's why taller sky kids can swim during the trial.

[cold sparrow]

Can they actually? My skykid is on the shorter side, so I can't say I've seen that.

[vocal forge]

I usually swim in the trial when the waters shallow

[cold sparrow]

We may not have seen an ancestor swim for animation reasons, but I believe the Season of Abyss quests indicate that the other spirits we're helping out were actually there to dive for treasure.
Again, the rain in Hidden Forest hurts us, but just standing in some water in Hidden Forest doesn't, neither does simply floating in the ocean in Abyss or Sanctuary. I don't see water itself being the problem.

[cold sparrow]

Looking at a video of that rn. Honestly, if anything, that seems more like a gameplay glitch/oversight since it gives tall characters an unfair advantage in these trials.

[sharp lichen]

That could very easily be a gameplay thing. When we go underneath these same waters in Abyss or Sanctuary, we slowly lose light.

[vocal forge]

its because smaller light kids are smaller and keep less light in them while taller ones keep more. its why you shiver when you take a heihgt potion and grow shorter.

[flint bolt]

hey lore chat, what's the deal with birds not following the laws of their own universe?

[cold sparrow]

But the blue bar is a different effect than the harm the rain and the wasteland pools have on us. You can dive for some time without actually losing a spark of light.

[cold sparrow]

elaborate?

[sharp lichen]

Maybe the rain is corrupted with darkness so it’s more potent, but water can still hurt us slowly

[vocal forge]

Could it perhaps be to do with the temperature of the rain? remind you the water in the water trial is freezing, and we can assume that the forest is pretty cold since when you enter, you start shivering, however in the wawrmer waters of the season of abyss you dont get hurt at all.

[vocal forge]

and by enter, i mean when your skykid first steps into the forest,

[flint bolt]

ahem

-Their ability to fly through solid objects
-Having no legs
-Hovering above the ground when "sitting"
-Morphing into different shapes
-Generating their own light
-Improved self awareness due to having no eyes
-No clear sign of reproductive process

AND I SWEAR IF YOU ANSWER WITH "tHaTs jUsT hOw tHeY'rE mAdE"*

[cold sparrow]

The areas in Abyss where the blue bar doesn't decrease is directly near light plants and above (usually but not always seagrass-overgrown) areas where air bubbles rise up.
I'm inclined to agree that skykids probably don't need to breathe as we humans do, but the blue bar I think is purposefully associated with air supply - in the form of air above water or bubbles udnerground.
I think that underwater, the flame in our chest is at risk of suffocating, and can only be replenished either by the air/oxygen produced by these plants underwater, or by fueling it from the light that is coming from some of the bigger underwater light plant growths.

[tepid veldt]

theyre built different, dunno what to tell you

[sharp lichen]

-Skykids can also fly through solid objects
-your second point is explained by your third point
-Who knew a creature of the light would generate their own light
-Birds are created by the Isle Elder

[cold sparrow]

Most of these things apply to skykids too, aside from the 'having no legs' and 'ability to fly through solid objects' and 'having no eyes'

[round parrot]

Questions 1-4 is due to gameplay inconsistencies.

-Generating their own light
They are light creatures. All light creatures generate light.

-Improved self awareness due to having no eyes
Gameplay inconsistency/limitation.

-No clear sign of reproductive process
Light creatures, as far as I am aware, don't have a reproductive process. It is more of Megabird sending down these creatures (in my opinion).
Nvm it's asexuality

[sharp lichen]

Here’s a possible explanation for light creatures in the second performance quest

[round parrot]

so what I am getting here is that when a light creature's light reaches a certain degree (or "spark" in simpler terms), it could create more light creatures? interesting 👁️ 📝
(also, may I ask where you got this image?)

[cold sparrow]

Confirmed: Light creatures reproduce through mitosis

[round parrot]

ohh right
asexuality 🎉

[sharp lichen]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[untold notch]

water trial is comically easy if you're tall

[tepid veldt]

moth me tried it on chibi

[cold sparrow]

I have learned that now.
Again, I imagine this rather to be a quirkiness of gameplay and the hitbox changing depending on size, rather than having any lore implications.

[untold notch]

yeah definitely it's just funny to me how much difference it makes

[south depot]

Yo why is Dawn not on the Eden door

[cold sparrow]

they didn't vote for the king

practical answer? it probably just didn't fit the design they wanted to use
the dawn elder would maybe have been placed at the end of the line going down, but that's where the floor is

[fair lotus]

what kind of theories are there for what the darkness is, what the dark crystals are, the dark creatures, etc? not just the most popular theory but others as well if anyone has any

[cold sparrow]

Overall, darkness feels not just like an absence of light, but a force opposing the light that fuels us and flows through the kingdom
A substance that absorbs, traps and feeds on all that is light

[uncut pond]

The most logical and "safe" answer probably is (imo):

In-world, darkness is just a thing that exists, and just so happens that it naturally reacts to light in ways that are not beneficial to light creatures, kind of like radioactivity in the real world

From a meta pov, darkness probably represents pollution and technological progress

[flint bolt]

i like this one better

[fair lotus]

yeah, I feel the allegories are pretty apparent. I guess I was just wondering from a lore standpoint how it originated.

like how did the darkness come to be? is it a more abstract force that arises from greed and overconsumption of light? did they literally mine it from the ground? did the dark creatures always exist, in the deep, and perhaps the sky kingdom accidently let them out?

I know that the game tells us little to nothing, so I’m curious what people’s personal headcanons are.

[grim python]

personally I think it’s some kind of weird thing inbetween plants and fungi, it only seems to grow in dark places or where light creatures died

if we’re also going by the whole mitosis thing (“The end of one sparked the new life of another”) that might also explain why butterflies are released when you burn them now, they’re coming the manta/whatever that died there

i just realized you meant darkness in general and not darkness plants im an idiot 💀

[frigid tinsel]

There’s thoughts that darkness always existed as a nature force that’s been wrought out of balance from light due to power diamond manufacturing pollution

[fair lotus]

no but thats still interesting. because I want to know how the plants/crystals/creatures etc all relate to each other.

although it just occurred to me that it might reflect the relationship between light creatures and light crystals, as in the dark creatures power the dark crystals? idk though I’m just spitballing

[hushed steeple]

Why on earth is it raining in Golden Wasteland?

[sturdy wyvern]

c l o u d

[frigid tinsel]

The lightseekers are using blue light, which is associated with water, to make it rain in order to grow plants there later

[sharp lichen]

Wait, isn’t this the first instance of the lightseekers using colored lights?

[frigid tinsel]

That we have seen in game

[sharp lichen]

I guess

[frigid tinsel]

I’d assume lightseekers, who by their name would have some versatile abilities over light, would be capable of using colores lights

[sharp lichen]

Is colored light more of a magic ability or an artifact that you have to possess to use? I’m guessing the latter

[lusty merlin]

I feel like the trail color lights could be maybe be like, the full embodiment of the element it’s associated with itself. When the color lights we see the light seeker and enchant crew use are remnants of that if that makes sence

[uncut pond]

I mean, we didn't really know what abilities they had, if any. With how little we knew about them, they might as well have been just a random group of people dedicated to collecting light and nothing else.

It could also be like Baud says, and colored lights would be more of an artifact you can use by just having it and not a magic ability

Sky is way too ambiguous

Also today I did the final quest and wow I can't believe they made a Season of Performance 2
Imo this should become a staple of future non-crossover seasons, I wanna hold hands with all the blorbos

[brisk python]

i was so happy holding their hands

[shrewd mantle]

See I lowkey just imagined us skykids pouring powdered dye on our arms and flying ngl

[grim horizon]

if skykids masks are damaged, would darkness ooze out of the slit or cut, smth like wounded warrior's mask?

i'm considering this since skykids are half made of darkness, half made of light

[fickle snow]

Have apmeoje noticed how, the dude over there is making rain with blue lght, and the dudee over here is making it stop rain with petals?

[cobalt palm]

The Shushing Scholar of Lightseekers appears to be adept at using the blue light which we learned in Prophecy and Enchantment is associated with water to make it rain.
More proof of the spirits using light to teraform the world to their wills.

What is more, the rain hurts us like the forest, so is it impure, or does all rain hurt?

[fickle snow]

That was the other thing that i wanted to say, i was flying towards the sun, and then, the shusher starteed the rain,and then, i got estinguished. But smt funny, altough i was a goodd time under rain, ididnt lost wl, so it extonguishes, but doesnt steals wl

[sturdy wyvern]

I’m going to assume that the rain is very impure since this is in wasteland.

[cobalt palm]

Yeah those clouds aren't bright fluffy ones, though I did fly up there and they still recharge us

[sterile orchid]

Yeah it's still Wasteland, but also we purified that pool of water around the guide with one of the lights

[fickle snow]

I wish i could send a video

[cobalt palm]

If I remember my enchantment cutscenes, that pool was purified with blue light too

[cobalt palm]

I stick mine in YouTube, at least the upload size limit there is bigger

[raw crypt]

The blue light goes up towards the clouds, so maybe due to the severe amount of pollution in wasteland the blue light, while starting/encouraging the rain, cant exactly purify it? Like it cant start the rain and purify, only does one?

or maybe its a coding thing where rain always hurts HDBFBDBB skykids love the sea but hate the rain

[fickle snow]

Exacty

[cobalt palm]

Yeah, the alchemist of Enchantment couldn't get a darkwater pool purified, could be all the crabs about it

[pastel brook]

what.

[fickle snow]

Where is the “it is not tha tdeep” omage now, hey, FAM?

[pastel brook]

I hear you but..do you think it's true?!

Don't count on it..

[fickle snow]

You dont even exist dude

[sharp lichen]

I would think it would be like a bacterial infection, with darkness taking over the cut area

[fickle snow]

I have noticed that, they are trying to make thr flowers grow, but, the rain starts,and since it posionous, the green dudee stops it

[frigid tinsel]

I don’t think twirling champion is stopping the rain, there’s just noting when it stops naturally

[hushed steeple]

Finished the season. Heres my summery:

•BAD BALDIE BROS are my new favorite antagonist.
•Bad baldie bros take a mum for, indeterminate reasons.
•Is the armhold guy mourning himself? Was it his OWN spirit that appeared? Morning his arm or something?
•Spirits mourning deader spirits.
Final thoughts:

Material objects fix everything.

Final ranking:

One "Im sad come decorate my house" out of 10

Also RIP "the types of weapons represent the sides in the war" theory. Everyone used spears.

[pastel brook]

thats REALLY deep fam

[cold sparrow]

Mourning his arm...? where exactly did you get that?
Wounded Warrior was most likely injured in the same assault that killed an innocent bystander (and possibly their friend)

[fickle snow]

Yes you acceptyour destiny, embrace the deep side (dont ban me qwq)

[hushed steeple]

The spirit that appears to him I think has the same hair he does. Its not the tree sales lady, and it does not look like his soldier buddy either.

Maybe its supposed to be his soldier buddy before he got RIPPED

Either way when I saw the spirit that appeared to him I went "who the heck is that supposed to be?"

[half shadow]

It is the plant seller that appears to Wounded Warrior, though?

[cold sparrow]

That is meant to be the flower vendor.
Try reliving the spirit's memory. Some of the other spirits in the memories got their looks altered a bit more since they were initially implemented I think

[hushed steeple]

WHAT!? Really?! BHHHaaaaAAAHAHAHA! THEY ARE INCONSISTENT?!

Thats hilarious.

I just saw everything for the first time yesterday so I don't know what they looked like before.

[cold sparrow]

I'm not sure if they made any more changes after the Season hit live
but yeah, that spirit is the flower vendor

[half shadow]

uhhhhhh I mean I was doing them weeks ago and it was the plant seller still. are you thinking about the right spirit? the Veteran spirit with the green cape is the one who has their "son" appear, who resembles Wounded Warrior a bit more. Wonded Warrior has always had the plant seller spirit with the dress and the short hair bob

[hushed steeple]

I thiink it was the one that holds the arm? The one who just wanted to buy a plant? Cause the dad for sure had the son appear. But Armhold guy was the one I got confused on. The tree vender had a bob cut and hairclips, the one that appeared to him after the quest, I THINK, think, had the little swoosh hair.

[cold sparrow]

same vendor

[hushed steeple]

Huh! Even the plants themselves look different from the ones I saw!

Wait even the hair or warrior is different....

[sterile orchid]

that second one is an older screenshot, i'm reliving the memory as we speak and everything looks the same as it is now. still the same flower merchant

[hushed steeple]

I wonder if its a version thing.....I don't have time to check now, but later I'll go back and make sure it was swoosh hair I saw.

[cold sparrow]

yeah that screenshot is probably from the beta
the warrior's hair changed, but the flower vendor didn't

[sterile orchid]

i also find it very cool that they gave her a different outfit, unlike basically every other "side-character" spirit that doesn't already exist in the base game

[cold sparrow]

I think that's technically just the Anxious Angler's outfit

[sterile orchid]

it's still more than the other ones get! most of them only have a hairstyle difference

[hushed steeple]

So, why is the rain hurting us?

[sharp lichen]

If my theory is correct, then it’s because Skykids have a natural aversion to water

[untold notch]

I think oceans are realms of darkness

[grim python]

why does swimming not just like melt us then xd

[hushed steeple]

So, then, how can we swim? Is it a matter of holding our breath (i.e. keeping out light within)?

[sterile orchid]

i just explained this in #questions-and-help because someone said "then explain swimming!" and i got carried away, i'll just. copy-paste it here

the difference is that there's light coming through the water! :) there's no light-savers in sanctuary outside of the turtle ravine, which is a coral reef so that makes a bit of sense
and in treasure reef, if you leave the grassy area and don't stay by any fish or the light plants, you will actually lose light.
you can also dive in the polluted water (such as the geyser in Sanctuary) and it does exactly what you expect (which is melting you, essentially)

the difference is light shining through the water vs it literally just being water. there's no visual for it in game but it should be pretty obvious that when it rains there's clouds that block out the sun and therefore light

to add on to the second question in the message i'm replying to, yes! and also kind of no? the bar of "air" is basically just how much extra light you can lose before actually losing light which is similar to humans and holding their breath, eventually needing to breathe, and then if you don't do that quick enough you start inhaling water

[cold sparrow]

By that logic, wouldn't you also slowly lose light when standing in a puddle in another area that lacks light? like the archive in the vault, the caves under sanctuary, the cave in Prairie?
it doesn't seem to be merely touching water that has an averse effect, it is being submerged (which brings up the blue bar), or rain which directly drains your light, or standing in obviously polluted water (the geyser or the water in wasteland)

[sterile orchid]

yeah, the rain in Sky is pretty much always pouring and that can make you completely soaked with it in a matter of minutes, so you would probably be considered "submerged" pretty quickly

[cold sparrow]

I still think it's easier to assume the rain in GW is just as polluted as the one raining down on Forest

[wild pasture]

I figured it was because the rain in Forest and Wasteland is poisoned. Not just that we have an aversion to water. There are too many places where we can safely swim, even in dark areas, without losing light.

[rigid iron]

We know there's something in the forest rain that makes it hurtful, so I don't think it's just water

[sharp lichen]

If so, then how are the flowers growing?

[rigid iron]

Life finds a way

[wild pasture]

Magick. We have to collect special light to make the flowers grow initially (during the Ark season quests), and now the spirits are casting a TON of spells to make it happen.

[sharp lichen]

We’ve come full circle lol, the very first question asked here 3 years ago was about rain

[sterile orchid]

and now we're asking about rain again

[wild pasture]

Just means the mystery was never solved!

[sharp lichen]

What I meant is that how the flowers growing if they’re being watered with polluted rain

I still abide by my Skykids just aren’t too comfortable with water

And the reason rain specifically hurts us is because it’s fast: stepping on a pebble doesn’t hurt us humans, but a pebble dropped on us could hurt us a little bit

[uncut pond]

Imo the world is just inconsistent, but that's the boring answer

[wild pasture]

They probably aren't, they're basically embodiments of light and fire. There are just too many places we can swim/hop around in water without any real issues for that to be the the only reason.

Maybe Forest and GW just have something in the water that makes Skykids aversion to it much, much more severe.

[sharp lichen]

What places are there where we can’t get hurt by water?

If you’re saying Sanctuary Islands, I believe you still have the blue meter there

[uncut pond]

Most water doesn't hurt skids unless they dive down, and even then it's just the meter rather than actual damage

[wild pasture]

Oh, we always have the blue meter, but we aren't hurt by being in the water, unlike rain and GW. We have to activate suffocate ourselves for it to hurt us.

[cold sparrow]

Anywhere you can dive underwater, you get the blue meter.
But the ground water in Forest, Prairie/Sanctuary (aside from the geyser), Isle and Vault (and Home) are safe to stand and float in

[static zephyr]

Maybe the water has slight darkens in it

[sharp lichen]

Well, the blue meter hurts us only a little bit, but it still eventually leads to death, so maybe tiny exposure to water may not be harmful, but being completely submerged in in it is harmful

[fickle wing]

and why we ourple………..

[cold sparrow]

Oh, also the ocean in the Treasure Reef and the pond in GW's Ark area (after the latter has been cleansed with magic), and I think the one cave in Hermit's Peak has a puddle?
meaning that most water sources are safe to touch for skykids
again, it is either being touched by rain (presumed polluted, only occurances so far happen in the Forest and Ark during bloom, so we don't know if there's any safe rain) that drains our light, the waters in the rest of wasteland (also presumed polluted from darkstone production) that again drains our light, or being submerged in any water which is notably draining a different resource that is not our winged light

[cold sparrow]

we're blooming

[static zephyr]

My on going theory is that the water has darkness’s in it but not enough to hurt us that much but slowly draining our light like the rain

[sharp lichen]

Even still, being submerged in water eventually depletes your winged light as well

[cold sparrow]

yeah, but it's not directly draining our light
and we can recharge that not only by exposing ourselves to light, but also bubbles
so I don't see it as touching the water that's the problem
rather, I imagine the flame in our chests is running out of air to burn, so it either needs more air supply, or be refueled by a different light source

[sterile orchid]

there's loads of things that live and thrive in areas where you would expect there to be nothing in the real world. especially plants
i don't see why the flowers can't just be a special species of flower that can grow despite pollution, or how the light that brought the flowers in the first place couldn't just extend it's reach to grow more flowers once the area has been given more water

[rigid iron]

I honestly don't believe it's the water directly hurting skykids because while forest rain hurts the light meter directly, the blue meter that appears while submerged only affects light when it's completely depleted. It doesn't target the light immediately, and the meter becomes bigger with a respirator. If the water was hurting skykids directly, a respirator wouldn't help

[hushed steeple]

Lol it was the flower seller. You only see her from the back

[sharp lichen]

respirator's are uncomfortable for me because they help prove the mouth theory

[frigid tinsel]

iirc the meter only shows and skykids only perish in Water Trial when they’re submerged deep enough in water thst passes the elevation of their flame. Presumably water can easily enter their body through thst hole and cause damage then, laden with darkness or not

[rigid iron]

True, this is why chibis get extinguished faster. Their flames are lower to the ground

[frigid tinsel]

Yup, taller skids are further up and thus have an advantage in the Trial

[south saddle]

im just parroting something that (i think) tac said before, but the respirators have power diamonds in them which would in this case provide more light while underwater
i don't even know if this is relevant though, uh-

[wild pasture]

I was going to suggest that, maybe, it blocks the hole that leads to our flame, but... Yeah, no. I just looked it up, and it's a mask that actually looks like a real-life respirator. Basically confirms mouths are a thing.

[frigid tinsel]

The respirator prob supplies more light via the power diamond within it to sustain skykids underwater who are losing light

[cold sparrow]

You consider respirators (which even have a reference to 'breathing' in their name) to be proof of mouths, but aren't even considering our skykids playing wind instruments?

[sharp lichen]

uhhh they use honks?? I think wind instruments work with any form of air

[south saddle]

i think they play wind instruments with sheer force of will

WHAT THE HELL IS GETTING BLOCKED IN MY MESSAGE i will cry

[static zephyr]

Something I noticed when I was doing ‘The seed’ the sheer intensity of AUORAS presents is able to unit you just shows how powerful she

[frigid tinsel]

Skycord: where you can say hell but not polyamory (for a while)

[south saddle]

wait can I just.

[rigid iron]

The forbidden meme

[south saddle]

well that worked

[grim python]

Yep

[frigid tinsel]

Don’t ping me

[grim python]

mb i thought I turned it off

[cobalt palm]

Don't try to circumvent the word filter, but that is pretty funny

[frigid tinsel]

Anyways relevant meme I made per the last discussion

[cobalt palm]

De-lighted manta!

[rigid iron]

We're gonna have to start using TikTok speech

[cobalt palm]

It sounds better than it should be
🔷

Oh that's not allowed either, saw the automod that time

[frigid tinsel]

Im not even mad, thats just crazy.

[south saddle]

or we can communicate via very elaborate gestures like we do in-game with kids we can't speak with

[frigid tinsel]

Die kill murder death but not tiktok speech oml

[eternal totem]

We have to use metaphors that don't even make sense

[sterile orchid]

what is "tiktok speech"

[frigid tinsel]

Words and phrases used to circumvent the tiktok filter

[cobalt palm]

There we go
Circumventing the gif link filter

[frigid tinsel]

Links just don’t embed in this server unless you’re a dev

[cobalt palm]

I keep forgetting

[sterile orchid]

it's not a filter it's embeds being turned off

[rigid iron]

I...I literally just realized the role colors changed

[half shadow]

im not really sure that the rain thing is all that complicated. I've always seen it as that its clearly been evaporating from the darkness-infused water likely originating in GW, or potentially Forest's own pollution even though there isnt any pools of darkwater there. the reason why the ocean water only hurts us when we swim further down is because all of the Light energy is basically soaked up through the water in the shallower areas, which explains the lightbloom growth in those areas of Treasure Reef - but the further from those areas we get the less Light energy we can passively absorb.

oh pog i got the hyacinth emoji

[tepid veldt]

and i love that there’s even a role for haunted people

[violet sundial]

Just wanted to drop in to say i’m leaving skycord for mental health reasons i hope to see you guys around 👍

[bold magnet]

Rain = fire go out

I am smart

[sharp lichen]

Water is super effective against fire for a reason

Don’t we see rain being created in Bloom?

[atomic lava]

i started a new account recently and noticed the rain starts in forest when we walk in

[frigid tinsel]

Yea it does that every time once you pass the first gate

[sharp lichen]

Could be a cutscene thing

That is how most things in Sky play out- paradoxically you’re the first Skykid that’s here to save everyone, but there’s also a whole world of skykids that have done the same

My personal headcanon is that in the lore of the game, there were some earlier Skykids beforehand who relived all the spirits, and the modern Skykids don’t have to do it.

[atomic lava]

this reminds me it said something along the lines of “welcome back” when my moth was doing the tutorial stuff in isle

[sharp lichen]

There’s a billion cutscene messages, please tell me someone knows where it is

[untold notch]

skykids are simply not skilled enough to dodge the rain

[cold sparrow]

imagine Skykids teleporting around in the rain like endermen

[untold notch]

introducing skykids to Touhou so they can avoid the rain

[fickle snow]

Xdddddddddddd

[nova kestrel]

Curios, what's the relation between the little prince himself and the rose? What's the origin behind the little prince? Where did he come from?

[frigid tinsel]

You can find those answers in The Little Prince

[pastel brook]

bruh...

Does your Skykid have a talent?

[vocal forge]

i can answer this.

[rigid iron]

Rain dodging

[pastel brook]

im just vibing here bro

[rigid iron]

Whoever changed the haunted role to be bloom themed too ily

[pastel brook]

it could be that deep fam

[keen shore]

Was the exact phrasing ‘At last, you return to this world. Remember, Child, your light is a gift?’

[keen shore]

I noticed something really interesting while people watching the Lightseekers in Forgotten Ark. Shush seems to be the only one actually using the colored lights (unless I missed something), and the others do the levitate emote in what I assume is an attempt to mimic what Shush is doing to produce the colored light, but inevitably fail.

Shush is the only one of them that’s a vault scholar — I have to wonder if their training is why they succeed when the others fail. Maybe they have special education with colored lights and how to use them that the others don’t?

[sharp lichen]

Then again, we know very little about what the colored lights actually are. Are they innate powers one can hone or artifacts that contain power of their own?

[untold notch]

obsessed with how they changed a role maybe one person in this server still has

[sharp lichen]

Now two

[untold notch]

well.

[rigid iron]

Well I'm a special little guy so write that down

I'm actually pretty pleased, I was feeling left out with everyone being ourple

[pastel brook]

Preposterous!

[keen shore]

experimentation

[pastel brook]

When we reincarnate after Eden, are we a new person or the same?

[stiff pewter]

I wanna grey role

[tulip ocean]

Why are are you here too…

[untold notch]

silly skybot doesn't know about the ship of Theseus

[pastel brook]

doesn't make any sense to me

[sharp lichen]

Google thesus

[untold notch]

these names are throwing me off so I missed this, it would be very interesting, but they are also the only light scholar and all that so that may be why

[keen shore]

That is what I was saying ^^ they’re the only scholar in the lightseekers

[untold notch]

"where do you work out"
"at the library"

[pastel brook]

...

[tranquil moon]

Any random lore drop?

[untold notch]

bagels are round

[tepid veldt]

insightful

[static zephyr]

The sky kids are made of clay

[tranquil moon]

Wait really?

[untold notch]

they might be

[fickle wing]

these new role colors are messing me up i saw the light blue n blue n for a sec thought i was in the fer.al server by some freak accident it’s like an animal having the enclosure changed slightly girl help

[tepid veldt]

psst pls dont ping me unnecessarily, thank you

[austere bridge]

bloom butterfly “concert” may potentially let us know if it was really skybot that destroyed the forgotten ark, or if crab whisperer really was the escaped culprit

[untold notch]

oh my stars I forgot about that

[white junco]

daily enrichment

[static zephyr]

Ok sorry about that and also

Some people thing and in the concept art for the sky kids it’s said that they are a clay outer body with a fire core (the red candle) and it’s use to give life and contain the EXTREMELY powerful light with in its body

[tepid veldt]

was it really skybot? or a miscarriage of justice? find out next ti-

[tranquil moon]

Wait wdym escaped culprit?

[fickle wing]

WRONG CAT PIC BUT ITS FUNNY

[keen shore]

why is everyone suddenly getting haunted again

[austere bridge]

oh it would seem you don’t know
hold on I can grab a link to it

[tranquil moon]

I know nothing I’m ignorant to Sky lore and theories

[tepid veldt]

ah yes, the hour long court case between tac and salem

[fickle wing]

which spirit would go to court go

[tranquil moon]

Huh- Salem witches?

[lusty merlin]

i forgot about the crab whisper court trail of where we went on a hour long joke spree storyline that they blew up the ark

[fickle wing]

no this salem

[keen shore]

MEEEEEEE

[tepid veldt]

arson 🎉

[untold notch]

that's Salem! and arson

[white junco]

arson

[tranquil moon]

OH. hi

[static zephyr]

Arson

[lusty merlin]

YOUUU

[austere bridge]

found it #lore-discussion-spoilers message

[frigid tinsel]

I see the hauntings are back for springtime

[snow cosmos]

name mentioned, i briefly return to assert my existence

[keen shore]

Other Salem ⬆️

[frigid tinsel]

Smallem & Tallem

[tepid veldt]

cat salem and book bird salem

[keen shore]

salad Salem and normal Salem

[white junco]

salem i love you but you are not normal

[frigid tinsel]

Neither of you are neurotypical

[snow cosmos]

you are not normal /aff, positive

[keen shore]

let’s talk about something else for awhile ! /j

[raw crypt]

i think the murals also depict the enchantment crew as scholars as well, so it does seem like something that needs training for

[spring python]

Normalem

[tranquil moon]

I honestly have no clue what I read but thanks?

[tepid veldt]

ITS BACK

[lusty merlin]

Since vault could not only double as a library but also as a sort of school as we do have scholars, maybe learning colored lights was a class a scholar could take? learning how to use colored lights on a more deeper level. Maybe a lightseeker in training class?

would explain why we see alot of scholar figures in the ark mural, like maybe the lightseekers could've been teachers to those scholars?

[tranquil moon]

NOT LEAGUE NOO DONT SAY THAT NAME THE ADDICTION WIL RETURN

[tepid veldt]

i will now melt into the walls to focus on work, bye bye lorechat! 🤍

[keen shore]

I am also thinking about this. Maybe the enchantment crew are ‘light scholars’ like Shush is? Does that imply they’re also technically lightseekers and that’s why they’re hanging out? I have many questions

[wild pasture]

What does this mean? I've seen mention of "Haunted" before, but never figured out what it means.

[untold notch]

well

[frigid tinsel]

tbf Days of Bloom only just came out today. we haven't seen the extent of their abilities. perhaps as the event progresses, we'll see the other lightseekers use other colored lights as they need – green, I think, would be utilized to grow the flowers said in the news post

[snow cosmos]

if we go with the hc of enchant guide being a former student of night's they could have taught the rest of the crew maybe, tho idk if they would have had enough time to master the skills if that's the case

[untold notch]

I'd love to explain the haunted role but I don't understand it super well

[spring python]

I think Lightseekers and Enchantment study different aspects of light but I’m too washed out to talk Rn

[white junco]

skybot starts zapping us and we turn into ghosts

[lusty merlin]

haunted its a role bea for example has had, for i think like 8 months now? was for halloween.

but yeah i find it really cool sush is the only lightseeker and i guess piggy back using some sort of color lights in their own way. also interesting to think of the lightseekers being their own professors to the scholars for the next generation of light seekers. If thats the case and all

[spring python]

Also isn’t it kinda implied that light was catapulted off the arc? With that random catapult somewhere in the lake? Idk funny detail

[untold notch]

yeet

[keen shore]

I was thinking about this too, but the fact that the other lightseekers tried and failed to replicate what Shush was doing made me wonder if it’s something only they (and the enchantment crew) know how to do right now. especially since, although I could be wrong, if I had to pick a lightseeker to use blue light I would not pick Shush

[raw crypt]

I think itd make sense! Since another mural depicts those with umbrellas (associated with lightseekers and now enchantment) catching light before giving it to scholars (whcih the enchant crew is depicted as)

ive always seen it as lightseekers being more involved with raw light, while enchantment focuses on transmuation of light, like the spells and coloured lights, but the two can overlap a lot

[frigid tinsel]

perhaps they can't use blue light (yet) for some reason?

[untold notch]

there is an alchemist on the ark...

[lusty merlin]

maybe lightseekers like twirl are still in the stage that they are a lightseeker, but still have much to learn

[snow cosmos]

i hope we get to see pioneer use green light (there is more to this thought but i am not v coherent rn)

[spring python]

Love that book

[sterile orchid]

i'm super late to this discussion but i heard something about that lonely haunted role getting more members?

[raw crypt]

servers haunted /ref

[frigid tinsel]

you're haunted

[untold notch]

well it would seem you're one of them

[sterile orchid]

I'M A GHOST!

[spring python]

I think enchantment’s art probably died with them

The idea of them catapulting the light away cause they really needed it to be somewhere is funny tho

[keen shore]

I think so, my current headcanon (up to change) is that Shush either already knew how to use colored light from their education or Enchantment taught it to them quickly before the others arrived (probably the first). Twirl keeps trying to get Enchantment’s attention so they can teach them too and that’s how you get Twirl going through it when their attempts fail

[lusty merlin]

twirl trying to suptly get enchantment guide's attention so they can learn how to use color light:

[keen shore]

I do not know if I would call them subtle but they are definitely determined

[sterile orchid]

i've been focused on twirling and piggyback moving around outside of the tent thing, but i did notice crab whisperer doing the levitation emote like they were trying to help keep the light working, gonna go study their movements like a nature documentary camera crew for a bit

[lusty merlin]

determined yet shy to approach

[pastel brook]

i love fish

[untold notch]

has twirl done like. crab walk or anything

[keen shore]

Yes they Do

[sterile orchid]

INSTANTLY DIED LAUGHING AT THIS

[untold notch]

it's so delightfully unoptimized for their model, I love them

[lusty merlin]

i haven't see them do that :(((

[pastel brook]

I know some secrets

[sterile orchid]

tell us.

[pastel brook]

really?

[lusty merlin]

sobbing

[pastel brook]

Where did the spirits get their clothing material from? I'm too shy to ask them..

[untold notch]

manter

[lusty merlin]

wool exists, theres probably sheeps

[keen shore]

I interpreted this as them trying and failing to do what Shush is doing with the blue light; however, it might be them helping power it like you said

[flint bolt]

lore chat, where does chibis come from?

[untold notch]

hell

[pastel brook]

and thats all for todays episode!

[snow cosmos]

the lightseekers all do that emote at their saplings too, there might be something there

[lusty merlin]

that emote does do levitation but maybe it can like, bring other stuff to focal point if that makes sense? like concentrating light in one place

[raw crypt]

im kindof obsessed with them

ONE LIMBILLION KISSES to catch enchants attention

[untold notch]

twirl wants what dark has

[lusty merlin]

i see twirl is wooing enchantment guide from afar, the poly grows

[snow cosmos]

the polycule expands....

[lusty merlin]

good for them🎉

[keen shore]

doesn’t twirl do the slouch emote and then lvl 3 cry if enchant keeps ignoring them

[sterile orchid]

they also use the lv4 butterfly emote which has a similar color, that could be something

[lusty merlin]

yes, actually lvl 5 cry like the one where they're on the floor so

[sterile orchid]

right now i'm listening to someone play music with doublefive and then doublefive just. stops, and sits down like they're being overshadowed by the skykid

[keen shore]

I think at one point Twirl returns to their friends and does some kind of emote I interpreted as them complaining about being ignored

[solemn bone]

yeah, and why does our size change with that mask on?

Is it perhaps because the ‘hide and seek’ spirit is a child, thus smaller than the other adult ancestors? Could it be that simple?

[raw crypt]

if you say no to jamming with doublefive they also do the slouch emote, the being in wasteland effect

[lusty merlin]

yeah probably, plus we can be smaller than we already are

[vocal forge]

Hehe

[lusty merlin]

i would never turn down a chance to play with doublefive

on another note i hope like with last year we see more lightseekers in the ar doing their own things with their own color lights, would be super cool

[sterile orchid]

twirl has so far done a lot of showing off emotes, then plead, slouch, two different angry emotes, and is now back to showing off again

what is even going on with them

[vocal forge]

I like how umbrella man goes outside to check the rain.

[lusty merlin]

enchantment guide ignoring them

[vocal forge]

Wait, what specifically has twirl been doing to tty to get enchantments attention?

[sterile orchid]

i also wonder what piggyback is doing when they leave the tent, it looks like they also summon a light but i think it's just levitate emote

[vocal forge]

Twirl does seem like the one moving around the most outside of the crews tiny camp but i havent watched him enough to get a handle on him.

[lusty merlin]

when doing navigators emote there's a clear visual of a sort of greenlight coming from the ground, im assuming they're trying to grow the grass

[sterile orchid]

so far just a lot of upgraded emotes with the effects, it's hard to name all of the ones specifically

[lusty merlin]

wonder if it'll just be the earth and water lights being used or there can be something else, idk what though, maybe regular light can be used by a certain light seeker at one point too? time will tell

[sterile orchid]

trying to get a clear view of all of them to see what they're doing is really hard, i can only consistently watch the two that leave the tent

[untold notch]

does it make it actually rain btw I haven't been online to check

[sterile orchid]

yes