lore-discussion-spoilers

[broken pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/sky-sky-children-of-the-light-sky-children-of-light-sky-cotl-ok-gif-25964585

[frigid tinsel]

no, it's not. Skycord is not like other official game servers and that's not a good thing

[broken pendant]

epic embed fail

[frigid tinsel]

links don't embed here

[stable bronze]

Gif is still funny

[broken pendant]

true

[faint quail]

This is how I interpreted it! I’m not posting anything on TikTok until after the official concert is live. But since tonight was live I feel like it’s fair to discuss in the right channels (such as this one or the season chat)

I’m sure if the mods have a problem with folks talking about it on discord we will be given an announcement here

[broken pendant]

genchat turned into live global chat

[pine bane]

tbh this is what i interpreted at first.
yet seeing how betachat try our best to keep silent in betachat channel i also think tgc could be telling us that, like dont spread the dress rehearsal around skycord?
no mods policing so i take it we can talk about dress rehearsal anywhere now but at the same time being minimum and put Spoiler tag on it.

different people gave different opinion tbh but i think imma refrain myself from talking about all the lores i saw until the concert debut for real

[cerulean blade]

ok question:
is Sky and Journey in the same universe? Are both games connected lore-wise?

[halcyon hull]

Sky and Journey are different universes

[spice basin]

proof 😈
nah, but im joking. their models and overall looks are very different, i would say its another universe.

[weak dust]

Oh yeah you're a lore enthusiast explain it with one one word

[odd siren]

megabird

[copper saffron]

Mashed-potato

[atomic lava]

soup

[weak dust]

The primordial soup is real

[round parrot]

Shish-kebab

[atomic lava]

[spring python]

Soup

[weak dust]

me to every elder in the game

[round parrot]

Yeah gluck with Resh though

[weak dust]

imagine if this is the mega bird

That would Cool

[eternal totem]

LMAOO

[flint bolt]

So
I went to the dress rehearsal yesterday

And uh, I'm just going to say I called it, and you can't convince me because I also called dibs.

[eternal totem]

Called what

[broken pendant]

it

[eternal totem]

Thank you, I would be lost without your guidance

[regal forge]

Hey- with the ‘warrior of love’ season quest
Was the Aurora spirit an apprentice or a child of racer or something?
I don’t know if we can really tell but I’m wondering now

[eternal totem]

Seems more like an apprentice

[broken pendant]

Maybe they were a fan or somethin

[eternal totem]

It's honestly just a horse girl movie cliche, the professional racer gets injured during rehearsal & it's up to the rookie to win the race

[regal forge]

I feel like the spirit wouldn’t let a random fan ride their manta-

[regal forge]

horse girl movies but with mantas?????
Someone get on this!
Now we know what kind of plays the performance crew does

[eternal totem]

They definitely had a play based on it

[regal forge]

The racer sulking that their thunder was stolen:

In other news
So the citadel was actually another racing spot?
What does that mean for the valley races? What interests me is I always through mantas wouldn’t fit through those flying light holder things
I assume they dont so how do you think the flying race would work?
Did only trained mantas who knew how to tuck and go through go through those
OOH was it an obstacle like the racer had to jump through, off of their manta, and land back on them again???

[round parrot]

Could be possible that the Citadel is like, some sort of training grounds for racers to test their speed

[regal forge]

I bet the coliseum races were ONLY professionals with amazingly trained mantas
They’d have to be well known to fill a coliseum, eh?

[unkempt summit]

What's going on here?

[regal forge]

“Racers, please remember the use of the citadel is only for petty competition against friends. Thank you”

[round parrot]

Lore question (/genq): What IS the currency of Ancestors do they have? I highly doubt that their currency were candles

[regal forge]

I bet it was
Even their spirits are like “dang sky kids are good money…… I’m just gonna drop down”
“A new traveling spirit!”

[eternal totem]

Dabloons

[regal forge]

Besides that I don’t think we’ve ever seen currency or even exchange in the game besides us….. huh….

[copper saffron]

Maybe they traded?

But yes manta racing is very good
In game we only ever see them standing on the mantas, but thats likely a game limitation. Do you think in lore that they had saddles or something?

[round parrot]

This might be a bit of a stretch, but I would assume that the pink string of light we see when our Skykids get attached to the mantas are possibly a way to secure the bind between manta and the one riding them (which is the ancestors in this scenario)

My wording may sound a little wonky but I hope you get the gist of it

[copper saffron]

Ngl i never noticed that string

[broken pendant]

that would explain how bro fell off 💀

[regal forge]

I imagine they could flat out balance on mantas
From what we’ve seen with the way they fly without a sky kid vs WITH a Sky kid
They’re a lot smoother and don’t take harsh turns or leaps around
Even when the ones in sanctuary follow us they’re very smooth and not skiddish
Chances are race mantas are VERY smooth flyers and this allows racers to be safe unless the mantas spooks or they lose their footing

[copper saffron]

I do think a saddle would be a reasonable guess, but not a full one, more a way for them to still stand but hold on to the reins
A bit like the navi riding the ikran in avatar

[regal forge]

Maybe instead of a saddle it’s like foot holds?

[halcyon hull]

Revolution

[sterile bane]

!concertwhen

[pastel brook]

An AURORA concert is coming to the realms! Join others in a musical journey where you will feel the wave of emotions starting on <t:1670560200:F> (<t:1670560200:R>)

The concert will continue to be available from <t:1670572800:f> and then every 4 hours for the rest of the season, with the final concert at <t:1672646400:f>
🔎 More details: https://bit.ly/SkyConcert

[boreal nebula]

How does this postcard is into English version? In italian "riunirsi" can either mean "meeting" or "reunite" , so it raised my question:

From a lore POV is this a second coming of Aurora upon Sky Realms or is it just the first time She/They arrive?

Maybe is just an error of adaption, but to me, so far, it seems the second time, because the Mindful Miner already had had the cape/scarf/mantle on during their memory quest. So 2nd quest cutscene shows how they had received it for the first time back then (in a time before the memory quest happened. Firstly Aurora arrived, secondly they acquired the mantle, lastly they had the touching moment with jellyfish)

[spring python]

Doo dudu doo doo doo doo

[austere bridge]

my idea for like “manta saddles” for ancestors was that it was something that kinda looked like that air scooter thingy from nausicaa, but they used it to help ride mantas? I hope someone knows what I’m talking about

[copper saffron]

Yeah yeah that could be cool! I just think the actual sport riders like we see in warrior memory have lighter specialised saddles

[native shoal]

Like a snowboard?

[timid heath]

What is the emote where organ music plays and you just fall flat back up? I’ve been seeing that emote lately by other players and want to know what it is, so I know what I am hunting.

[rigid mural]

Slouching Soldier, lvl3-4. It's an accordion I think.

[boreal nebula]

Since in both Backflip Champion's and in Warrior of Love's memories (where they even fall during the race) I think they have no saddles, they ride them bare-handed or, like it has been said, surfing 🏄 , after all if it wasn't dangerous in the first hand, I hardly see how they were able fell by mistake.

Maybe this mantally/manta-race was a "young" sport, with not many safety regulation.

At first I thought Backflip were passing to Warrior of Love (WarrLo) a saddle/string to command the manta , but recently I think I spotted that "string" they're passing is a pair of aviator goggles 🥽, pretty much the same model we see on the Flight Spirit with orange+blue wings (it slips my mind what was their name )

It could mean this other spirit was once a race too

Which would have been a nice game play to be able to ride and direction a manta ourselves back in SoFlight (as a sort of wished for deepdown)

[boreal nebula]

Maybe the reason why we have the game mechanics of that "silver-line" shown with purple is because now even mantas take in consideration how fragile we are/is their beloved rider. So now they use their natural Purple Light telekinesis to carry us around with more care.

How considered of them !

[pastel brook]

...that's deep, fam

[quasi harbor]

I rememberer a line on a doc that was shared here when I was pretty new mention the Eden elder exist but they are too late to be saved so I made a little sketch from that

#sky-fanart-sketches-and-art-chat message

[timid heath]

What time does the concert and/ or the 5th quest start at tomorrow? Cause I am confused and want to understand more clearly when I should be popping in.

[frank gate]

I'm the anonymous

[lofty panther]

yall probably wont get this until the concert tomorrow but
Prometheus made man from clay and stole a spark from the hearth of Olympus, to gift mankind fire.

[pastel brook]

huh?

[rigid mural]

Lore chat, look at this PS achievement.
"An Old Friend" ?
Either skykids were there in some form in the past (reborn ancestors), your first playthrough isn't the first (so your Skykid already knows the elders but spent enough time apart) or both.

[untold notch]

tsadi is my bestie confirmed

[austere bridge]

gonna go comfort teth in their angst

[frigid tinsel]

Wonder what entails “aquatinted” — summoning them in Orbit? Meeting them in their temple?

[rigid mural]

Temple

[keen shore]

I think the second to an extent. the intro’s phrasing implies that we spent a long time apart, and since the disaster had to be explained to us, either we don’t know it happened or didn’t know the effects of it. Aka: we ‘left’ either before the disaster happened or during it.

*At last, you return to this world. Remember, Child —
your **light** is a gift.*
All are **given breath by starlight**.
The first of us lived in joy that we would one day **return to the stars.**
Together, we **built a Kingdom** in the clouds.
We **connected the seven realms** with the power of **starlight.**
But then the **sky went dark**, and our Kingdom **shattered.**
Many of us are still **trapped** in these realms.

Please, Child… Bring your **light** to our fallen **spirits.**```

[lusty merlin]

Oo yeah!

I had more time to think about this but this is how I see it: if megabird created skykids while also potentially made all life; elders, ancestors ect, maybe skykids have fragments of knowing the elders and the world? Like skykids know how to light candles, know how to fly when they first get winded light as if they’ve done it before. if our skykids were brand new if we started playing as moths there would’ve been some animation of them getting used to flying like having trouble getting up when you finish eden but there isin’t.

So it could be that, or we’ve ascend before but don’t remember it and are just starting to remember it, like with most babies not remembering their time as a baby but suddenly being aware at a few years old if that makes sence, god there’s so many possibilities here

[rigid mural]

YES YOU GET IT
I THINK SKYKIDS HAVE AT LEAST A BIT OF ANCESTOR IN THEM

[lusty merlin]

YAYAYAY

[lusty merlin]

Also it’s not like we’re the first skykid, far from it with the eden statues and other players, being present maybe the first few moths got stuck until enough came to eden to brute force their way through the darkness and back into orbit to complete the cycle so the elders could see us an an old friend because of how many moths came and went (idk if that makes sence but yeah)

Great now I’m thinking of when the first actual moths showed up the elders thought they were all a single moth until two of them showed up

[boreal nebula]

Idk, to me seems just a pun
Getting to know a new friend which is actually ancient/old (like an ancestor)

[frigid tinsel]

in my ficverse, there was an Original Eight skykids who explored the world together. when they came upon Eden, only seven of them ascended.

[keen shore]

Probably more for moths than anything, but I think it’s interesting how we’ve supposedly been friends with the elders in the past but they still have to be explained to us now.

Isle in general gives off the vibe of our skykid having lots of fragmented memories they can’t really place but are slowly explained as they continue exploring and listening. The first cutscene we see is us remembering (not seeing, important distinction that I can explain) Eden & then looking around at various parts of Isle. Maybe we unconsciously remember when it used to be green and teeming with activity and so seeing it like this feels wrong in a way we can’t place.

WL are also called lost memories in the intro;

*Seek **Lost Memories** to gather **Winged Light**.
Go, Child. The **Kingdom of Sky** awaits your **Light.**
Begin by answering the temple’s call.*```

[lusty merlin]

Oh god I like that a lot but also owww

[boreal nebula]

Where is this from?

[keen shore]

It’s a moth-exclusive part of the new updated intro. When the update came out, I made a moth account and transcribed everything I could as some things were only described to moths & couldn’t be seen again on a replay

[lusty merlin]

Personally for me the achievement would’ve been tilted a “new friend”or “nice to meet you” or somthing, I feel like it being called an old friend would be intentional, plus with there being a lore chat and all here I doupt the devs would make a pun of it knowing we’ll take anything that is even a crumb of lore to analyze

[frigid tinsel]

could be that the Elders are ancient, old beyond years

[keen shore]

Yeah, and this isn’t the first time we’ve been outright stated to be returning. The intro is also there, and the word return is explicitly used to describe our arrival in the isle pin poem. Old might have a double meaning here

[lusty merlin]

Yeah I think they’ve been around for a loooong time aswell

[spring python]

I think the former and the “old friend” is a view of the elder towards your sky kid and not the other way around. Given the way they navigate with curiosity I think Sky kids may consist of the light of someone else, but don’t contain their memories.
also I think that’s a bittersweet little detail if true cause like imagine your old friend gets reincarnated and they don’t remember you but you sure as hell remember them

[boreal nebula]

"Oh no! Now there are two of them!" meme moment

[lusty merlin]

Owie- I feel like in the beginning if that’s the case they would be confused on a moth that went through ascending to seem like it’s the first time meeting them only to realize it’s been a different one almost everytime

[boreal nebula]

Curious! I think the opposite way. They might have simply made a pun, knowing that this would still spark a new nice point of view in lorechat

Food for theories

[spring python]

Memory loss stuff tucks at my heartstrings a bit too much. I still power cry every time I listen to “remember you” from adventure time

[keen shore]

yeah! I could be wrong but I get the vibe, especially in Night’s cutscene, that they remember us as well. Some of them seem initially surprised to see us but not for long, realizing pretty quickly what we’re there for and what we need.

I wonder if our skykids remember the elders but in a really fragmented, disjointed way

[lusty merlin]

Yeah, for any sort of lore content I like to believe it has some sort of implications to the lore ingame because crumbs

[keen shore]

I think it’s kinda silly to act like the concept of our skykids returning [instead of this being their first time in the world] is based off a pun that might not mean what we think it means, considering it’s outright stated to be true in the intro

[boreal nebula]

Remember You was about Ice King/Simon Petricov, right?🥲

[spring python]

I think so! I think the reason Sky kids know to trust the elders with light is an instinct leftover from their past self. It’s not enough to remember them, nor to define solid memories, but it’s enough that they know they know what to do when seeing elders

[lusty merlin]

I could be misremembering but arnet their murals of ancestor giving light to Daleth in some murals? Again I’m unsure if that’s what one mural shows

[keen shore]

I would argue that our skykid even knew the elders well and vice versa. I got that feeling from some of their cutscenes. Like for instance we don’t run and hide when Dusk jumps down, we wait for it to stop knowing they’ll collapse, and in turn they trust us to let us come close enough to help them.

[boreal nebula]

I like to think skids trust them because of the partial common birth.

With he old intro, before the Intro Tunnel, one of the most spread theory was about the Elders coming to Sky lands as fallen Stars

Not meaning that they were the same species, but we are like baby angels with arcangels (Elders) or the way Gandalf is a demigod but servant of the more powerful ones

[lusty merlin]

Yeah that too! I like to think it’s the same disjointed memory thing on a first play through, maybe if the game didn’t have to go though that much optimization I can see the elder cutscenes being slightly different when a skykid sees them again, more relaxed with the light and interacting with the elders

(This is my excuse for more elder cutscenes ghhhhh)

[sharp lichen]

Does it mean old friend as in friend you’ve known for a long time, or simply an old person that’s your friend?

[keen shore]

I think they also know that even though we’re kid shaped they shouldn’t treat us like how they would ancestor children of an equivalent looking age. They trust us with making decisions even when they’re probably not great for our safety, like in Dawn’s cutscene, where they double check if Eden is where we’re going & then guide the birds there to help us.

Like they assume we already know it’s dangerous and have thought the decision out and trust us with it

[lusty merlin]

For the sake of not hitting a roadblock in this discussion imma say the first one

[keen shore]

Both, probably! Double meaning

[lusty merlin]

Hh yeah and at that point they probably know where going to ascend when we reach eden

[keen shore]

could be what this is talking abt

*Across the **seven realms**, other Elders wait to be awakened.
**Restore them all,** Child, and fulfill your **destiny**. ```

The camera zooms in on Eden when this is said as well. I wonder if everyone, including us, already knows we have to go to Eden and ascend; like it’s never questioned as our ultimate destination. Wonder why

[spring python]

Idk if sky kids know they have go to eden exactly, I think they know they have to be somewhere though. Like, I genuinely think that the light symbol that appears to guide us is not just gameplay, it’s canon

[keen shore]

Now that I think about it I don’t know if have to go is the right phrasing. More like want so badly to go that they feel like they have to.

When you first enter Isle as a moth, a cutscene plays. (It’s not moth exclusive, so you guys can check if you want to). The first part of it is a closeup of Eden. The thing is that from where we’re standing when the cutscene is, our skykids couldn’t have possibly seen Eden at all — the hill is blocking it. Also, the level of detail present in the closeup isn’t visible at all from Isle. Our skykids have no realistic way of knowing Eden looks like that… unless they’re remembering it.

Meaning not only is Eden the literal first thing on their minds ever, they also remember it vividly enough to recall every detail, even when the rest of their memories are so disjointed elders have to be explained to them.

Basically: Eden is very very important to our skykids and they feel obligated to go there, other people know they probably feel obligated to go there, and they do their best to support us even though they know how it will probably end

[lusty merlin]

yeah now that i think about it the opening cutscene always confused me but this makes so much sence!

[spring python]

So like, tremendous curiosity or some sort of unexplainable pull

[keen shore]

I’m thinking it’s the second one. Or maybe like they feel an intense connection to that location and worry constantly about what it’s like now, so they feel the drive to go there and try to fix it. I’m struggling to find a better word because this one isn’t quite right, but like you feel about home, maybe.

If it was curiosity they’d probably feel the same way about the other realms, but they don’t. Eden is just really special to them

[spring python]

Longing?

[keen shore]

YEAH

[spring python]

I get what you mean, it’s a place where you’d naturally wander to. Think of walking back home, you don’t think about it, you just know where it is and when it’s time to go, you go

[keen shore]

Exactly! That’s what I was trying to convey, I’m glad it got across 💛

[spring python]

I really like that thought though, it explains the game’s journey atmosphere pretty well, since there is an obvious destination, a sense that there’s a place to go, but not this utmost urgency

Continuing on the thought of walking home, you’d allow yourself to stop, chat with someone, stop by a store, I think it’s the same with the small actions Sky kids would perform when going to eden

[rigid mural]

I like to think Skykids feel the pull light creatures do towards the Light, hence the focus on Eden

[keen shore]

Yeah! We’re fine stopping on the way, but we’re going to Eden, as unconsciously as someone goes home, and we never question it. The others along our journey also automatically and correctly assume we’re going there as well.

[rigid mural]

Like a compass. You even see the beam really easily from afar, like birds see the earth's magnetism and know which way is home.

[untold notch]

homeward bound...

[uncut pond]

I believe this might be referencing how most players will be bones and dust have been playing for a long while by the time they decide to complete an elder constellation
(I've been playing for over a year and I have yet to complete one 💀)

[rigid mural]

But why "acquainted" then ? Because to see an elder in Orbit, you need to complete the entire constellation, I think you'd be acquainted before you do.

[copper saffron]

Oh cool, a couple other people that believe that skykids might be reincarnated ancestors, or partially so

[keen shore]

I don’t know if skykids are reincarnated ancestors specifically yet, I’m still thinking about it. Not quite sure why they’d feel such a bond to Eden specifically

[rigid mural]

I like the idea, reinforces how skykids may be related to ancestors, which could be wholesome when you think they come back down to celebrate with them, they see them as descendants of their own c:

[pastel brook]

i was dreaming of this!

[keen shore]

Mood

[uncut pond]

My bad, I misunderstood the meaning of the word "acquainted" (English isn't my native language)

But I have another hypothesis...

[spring python]

Man, I have to say, the Prince was lacking some mad drip

[keen shore]

I feel like I understand and kind of agree with most of this but how is Ash involved

[rigid iron]

Ash is always involved somehow

[keen shore]

The fact that I feel like I can explain 80% of this image and what it’s trying to say is probably a wake up call to how deeply I’m involved with this game’s lore

[spring python]

Emotional support

[uncut pond]

Ash isn't involved I just thought they deserved an honorable mention for giving us so many cool TS hints

[keen shore]

you’re right, they do. correct choice

[lucid egret]

What if Eden was all the skykids home before whatever happened to it happened. It would make sense for why skids are constantly going there, deep down, that’s their home that is now wrong, and they don’t understand it’s wrong or why they feel that way, they don’t understand it used to be home, they just remember something about it. Something that makes dying endless times worth it

[willow dirge]

i have been thinking about joining the lore gang for a while, but i’ve never been able to read such long paragraphs would someone be so kind so as to fill me in on the fundamentals?

[copper saffron]

there should be a lore intro document, i dont know where it is but it does exist, wait for someone to send it!

[spring python]

I don’t understand any of what I’m saying

[copper saffron]

i found it! this was made by a bunch of people here in lorechat
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12XSkaMV_5UYG-an_Qo37ItyKP6GaqBBA6iRqBVE2qck/edit?usp=sharing

[pastel brook]

Hey, chat. You dropped this

[austere bridge]

aw, skybot, you were finally useful for once!

[pastel brook]

oof

[austere bridge]

yes, that is my name

[copper saffron]

oh my gosh skybot is really is sentient

[tepid veldt]

SOO JOIN THE LORECHAT FAMILY FALL INTO THE LORE TRAP

[quick jasper]

i used to have this chat muted because i didn’t wanna get fixated on the lore… guess what happened when i unmuted it

[untold notch]

:3c join us

[quick jasper]

i really enjoy reading up on the conversations here even talking every so often. its chill

[tepid veldt]

also dw i cant read long paragraphs either sometimes something in your brain clicks and all is calm in the world because you showed it your paragraph of random non sense

[pastel brook]

But what about the writing on the walls?

[frigid tinsel]

Those are murals

[native shoal]

Man, I have to choose between the sky concert or a dnd session

[quick jasper]

concert can wait, aren't we gonna be able to watch one every 4 hours or something?

[native shoal]

Yay

I thought it was just only at 8:30 (my time) and was thinking ‘well that’s not fair for other time zones’

[sharp lichen]

There’s not really lore gang (yet), but we appreciate you coming here! Let me DM you a theory video

[round parrot]

I see what you get here! I remember the Eden mountain possibly being a mountain of light before the apocalypse happened, wonder what happened to the old Skykids before that ever happened

[pastel brook]

Nooo! Help me, the mods are- oh, never mind, crisis averted

[wheat cypress]

Lol sorry I'm late been busy

My Lore brain is kinda broken these days, zero inspo, need a break lol

[untold notch]

take your time!

[ocean grove]

Whats up lore chat

[atomic lava]

not much just thinking a lot about lore

[ocean grove]

Any interesting discoveries or theories as of late?

[atomic lava]

juuuust some thoughts everyones been saying they dont think tlp is canon but honestly ive been thinking up valid points for why it could be... i just wish i knew their reasoning so i could come up w/ points based on that

[ocean grove]

Well i wish you luck!
I'll go straight here if i come up with anything

[atomic lava]

thanks !

[frigid tinsel]

a lot of people deem the stuff from the Season of the Little Prince not canon simply because that season was a collab. on that basis alone, it's understandable how they come to that conclusion considering other games consider their collabs not canon.

however, unlike other games, Sky's collabs aren't just shoehorning other media into the environment. TLP and Aurora have been well-integrated into Sky's world. few things have been blatantly ripped from other things and plopped into Sky like the Journey pack, for example. the devs have clearly put in an effort to assimilate the content from TLP to make it part of Sky's world. to dismiss TLP as not canon simply because it is a collab is to dismiss all that hard work. it's a great blindspot to overlook such things. to call TLP not canon cos it is a collab is to also say everything that's happened so far in the Season of Aurora is also not canon, but that clearly isn't true either since the same care to combine the two seamlessly into the world has been paid true too.

there is the thing about the Vault's unreality, but that's debatable in it of itself and a whole 'nother thing I don't feel like explaining at 1am. in fact, why am I still awake? goodnight lorechat.

[atomic lava]

thank you for the words ! /gen have a good sleep

[rigid iron]

I think the starlight desert was meant to be more abstract, like the areas we see in the trials, where the focus is more on bringing out a feeling or serving a purpose than being realistic for the game's world. A lot of people take the abstractness to mean it's not canon or it's all a dream, and that's a perfectly valid theory, but a lot of times they go further to use that to dismiss TLP altogether. In my opinion, this does a lot of disservice to the ways in which TLP's story has been modified to compliment the core themes of Sky. People get hung up on whether the little prince or aurora actually exist in the game world when the main idea is the emotions they evoke and how that is relevant to Sky as a whole.

[remote bolt]

people still debate about whether aurora is canon, but they forget the voice in isle when you first play as a moth is her

[atomic lava]

when i saw her spirits were forming a bubble around her i thought they were bringing her to life after she had previously lived and turned into an immortal voice in the wind and nature

[remote bolt]

gasp

actually though after the bubble she’s more defined

Another theory- as we see each of the spirits have a story really close to one of auroras songs, right? So how about the idea that each of these spirits was noticed by aurora, and brought back to life after death as the physical embodiment / manifestation of the song?
that would explain why each of them is around her in the coliseum, instead of scattered across the stands like in other seasons- they see her as their saviour, so prefer to remain close to her for their own protection

(and because she gives them the power of the music that allows them to be there as spirits -u- )

[atomic lava]

thats a very interesting one !! i always presumed they were chosen to be her sort of disciples (if thats the right word) because of how their lives deeply changed what was happening around them (and until the last one, their connections with the wind and nature i was really certain she had ties to nature huh)

[remote bolt]

Also makes sense!!

[boreal nebula]

Yees devs finally fixed the photofinish frame for my device! I had figured out it was where WarrLo surpassed them reaching the first place at the last moment

Btw these indeed looks like the goggles I mentioned before from SoFlight

[round parrot]

Could be possible that they are just reused assets

[sharp lichen]

And of course the Sky world map confirms its existence more than anything else.

[tulip salmon]

I really want to share my theory about Aurora role in Sky but I might have to wait after the concert

[fiery oracle]

Hey guys, the Aurora concert rehearsal got me thinking about the lore behind the creatures of light and i realized all of the creatures of light we see are either aquatic or avian (with dragons being both as far as i can tell).
I don't think we ever see a mammal like creature other than the ancestors but they have masks and objects referencing foxes and such so do terrestrial creatures of light exist?

[round parrot]

We aren't supposed to discuss about the rehearsal till the official concert comes

[fiery oracle]

I didn't? Im talking about creatures of light in general not the concert

[round parrot]

Ah I must've not read it properly
mbmb

[fiery oracle]

Sorry i might not have talked about it clearly English isn't my first language
But yes have we ever seen a terrestrial creature of light ?

[round parrot]

By "terrestrial" creatures, you mean the ones that don't fly?
Well we have a few:
Fishes
Turtles
Fungi (the "light blooms" we see in Forest and Underwater)

There could be more that I am missing, if so apologies

[fiery oracle]

The thing that bother me is that we see references to mammals but never the creatures themselves
Like animal themed masks but not the animals themselves
Also i don't think we ever see a turtle just turtle themed things (but i could be wrong on that one) nvm there's a turtle

[earnest briar]

Nope, there’s a turtle in Sanctuary Islands.

[round parrot]

For the turtle - we do see a turtle mask! It is from Water Prophet's mask!

[fiery oracle]

Yeah i was about to edit the turtle part out

Maybe the creatures of light that couldn't fly or swim away from the storm or whatever catastrophic event happened to the world of Sky went instinct ?

[round parrot]

As for the rest of the animals, we don't really see them, though some suggest that the creatures may be extinct or mythological creatures (in the Sky world)

[fiery oracle]

I see thank you

[thorn moon]

Hey Lorechat, just wanted to drop this here, it’s about the concert.

[remote bolt]

oo

[copper saffron]

AYO WOT

Maybe we are the story. We are the ones who'll regrow the kingdom

[ocean grove]

Isnt that mostly cannon? Idk a lot about the lore but i feel like thats kinda the main deal with skids so far
(Correct me if I'm wrong)

[copper saffron]

Yeah, probably. Just that so far, we havent done much. Maybe in the future we will

It just seems to contradict what the current loading screen says, which is "memories of sky's history"

[potent sedge]

Lore chat is gonna go ballistic tonight

[thin helm]

seeing the dress rehearsal of the concert, this makes much more sense

[atomic lava]

lorechat will eat well

[thin helm]

real so real

[copper saffron]

Ive also seen it but it doesnt make sense to me, i big dumb

[atomic lava]

^_^ just come back to the channel after the first concert ! then we can talk abt it

[cunning perch]

Coming here to mention something for the 1st time, hello ^^
Don't remember if I saw the theory of "the candle of the skykids is their heart" here or somewhere else but ... I think it might be true in a way (? If you use a ps4 controller and take the candle out to use it, the light of the controller goes red/orange and turns on and off like trying to mimick a heartbeat

[tulip salmon]

I think it’s really our heart! I utilized this to absolutely last drop in my AU lol

[hoary ingot]

Hey, Lore! I don’t know if you guys have noticed but ||in the Concert Trailer, there’s flocks on flocks of mantas (like the ones scene in shard memories) and isle is green! Could it be that the lands will be restored solely for the concert or all those clips from the animation? ||

[copper saffron]

i think those are memories, just like the rest

[rigid mural]

Try putting on headphones on mobile then hold the hand of a friend ! You will hear a heartbeat

[thin helm]

im not the biggest lore guy but it just but the scenes of the concert into more context for me

[untold notch]

this chat will be very dead until approximately (does bad math) 1 hour from now when it will probably explode

[quick jasper]

can't wait for the slowmode to be 20 mins ||/j||

[ocean saddle]

more lore incoming...

[pine bane]

LORE CHAT ARE WE GOOOD???

[ocean helm]

I'm watching all of you.

[fallow estuary]

the kid in the isle song got left behind, and its the same spot as the wl 👀

[atomic lava]

guys do you remember this? she's showing us the beginning i think

[random token]

Lore chat is gonna have a field day

[fallow estuary]

the ground used to be filled with water, but then it got drained for the diamonds maybe? also it seems to be raining, maybe they used the water from there and then just moved all of the toxic water to vault 👀
im using irl examples with how mines use river water and stuff, and it turns toxic
THAT COULD EXPLAIN WHY THE RAIN IS TOXIC, ITS FILLED WITH THE POLUTIDED WATER cause the normal water doesnt hurt us, its only the rain. . .

[calm jay]

i think it's more that the underground cavern was flooded, you can see the doors are already there and halfway submerged with water.

[fallow estuary]

i didnt see that so probably

[calm jay]

i'll send some pics later! i've been exploring during the concert for any secrets

[latent loom]

well since the rain is toxic in the forest, and the caves are in the forest, could be that the polluted water simply went through the water cycle

[fallow estuary]

thats fair, i was apart of the few concerts but i havetn seen all of the secrets 👀
but that makes me wonder, did the water from the flooded cave go and flood forest all together or go elsewhere?
howd it get flooded in the first place as well, was it a manmade flood that got out on control or was it a natural one

[latent loom]

there is the polluted geyser in sanctuary

[fallow estuary]

i think that was due to a boat crash. since theres boats and pots near it

[latent loom]

fair point

[random token]

I thought the sky people had a good history with the mantas. They were captured!

!!! I Knew it! They fought with each other

[exotic steppe]

YALL BETTER BE EATING THIS UP

[odd siren]

alright i’m expecting paragraphs in the middle of the concert

[round parrot]

Yeah but if you look closely

There are mantas

[royal wagon]

THE WASTELAND WAR WAS AGAINST THE MANTAS?

[fallow estuary]

dw, i have a list of questions that are equal to a paragraph. i cant send it though cause spoilers lol

[random token]

LITERALLT SCREENSHOTTING EVERYTHING RN

@round parrot yeah but they're also battling with other sky people

[random token]

I think, good sky people + mantas vs bad people who abuse the mantas

[round parrot]

Hah-

[fallow estuary]

valley couldve caused a lot of the mantas to die because if they werent captured, maybe they wouldnt have gotten caught up in the fight in gw? maybe they are apart of the reason there was a war
i have an idea, maybe the mantas got caught up in it cause they were originally migrating somewhere, but then the whole valley thing happened

was gw once closer to isle? cause im not sure if there was just a really long cloud tunnel through all of the realms lmao

what if the area after gw, was actually vault before vault was properly built?? it could also be eden though. but im leaning more towards vault (the are we're in rn)

[random token]

With what's currently going on rn I think mantas saw the good in the sky people in the end

[shadow hare]

came here from the concert for some lore about the mantas 👀

[fiery oracle]

MEGABIRD AURORA

[pastel brook]

dancing around a shooting star, and every beancell remembers what have taken us this far

[latent loom]

I made a joke about this when the season first started

[round parrot]

Hah- Good point

In the concept arts, mantas were used as "fuel" for darkstone diamonds

So yeah, mantas are part of the reason why the war in GW happened

[random token]

What I got

-manta captured
-division between sky people, those who want to abuse the mantas power vs those who want to free them
-war
-mantas learn to see the good in sky people

[misty abyss]

sorry i’m a little slow so are the mantas not our friends by choice?

[random token]

They were kinda forced to work

[shadow hare]

Oml thank you so much for this!!!

[fallow estuary]

orbit has always been an area, before eden, and before vault. were vault and eden never a thing till after the whole war? or could it be that they were destroyed (if you saw the statues laying around)

[round parrot]

Emphasis on work

Literally BE the fuel for that work

[fallow estuary]

they were also used for manta racing, it was one of the quests

[random token]

Correct! They were also ridden? Used in races

[fallow estuary]

yeah, it was shown in one of the quests for this season

[random token]

I just noticed the guy above me said that my bad

[sturdy hound]

Quick question, did nukes ever exist in the world of Sky? I can't think of how else wasteland would have got the way it is

[fiery oracle]

The blue light we saw could be something similar

[fallow estuary]

i was thinking it couldve been something from the power of the diamonds/stones that were mined

[fiery oracle]

Like they got corrupted or overloaded and exploded ?

[round parrot]

Turrets are used, possibly a way to replace it with nukes

[fallow estuary]

maybe, or somehow while transporting, the diamonds fell out of a casket or smth and with the energy of it falling and the birds' light being knocked out, it fueled the gems and cause big booms

[fiery oracle]

And then people realized they could be used as weapons during the war

[latent loom]

could've been the eden crystal exploding, like the first shattering

[primal rapids]

hope y'all were taking notes

[fallow estuary]

true, but we havent really seen eden so im not sure if it was aorund back then. grantedf, i dont know skyes lore that well

[brave wave]

Hopped in here after the concert! This chat will be busy for a while!

[latent loom]

if you mean filling like a fifth of my photo storage with screenshots then yes

[fallow estuary]

i already have a few videos, i cant hold anymrore

[high escarp]

i cannot get my mind off this. is aurora some manifestation or body of the light? while she sings the orb of light pulses, and at some points shes the light on the horizon atop eden, shes even the storm that hits wasteland. even the ending and beginning hint that shes a vessel or messenger for the light that got stolen away by the people of the land

[primal rapids]

lol well good because I got a lot of emotions but didn't make much sense out of that

[fallow estuary]

in a side note, we crashed the sky servers lmao

[weak osprey]

Is Aurora a deity?

[fickle folio]

Yeah

[brave wave]

That's what it felt like

[random token]

Got plenty of pictures. Overall I think it's about what the sky people did that affected the creatures of light in a negative way.

[high escarp]

she guides us through orbit and even has big golden wings * cough megaberd * and the choice songs hint she is the light itself or some messenger for the light and the land, and that we are hurting HER

[fiery oracle]

MEGABIRD AURORA im telling you

[weak osprey]

AURORA IS GOD

[latent loom]

I really think she is supposed to be a physical representation of the Light Phoenix. she's telling us the stories of the light creatures specifically, the memories she shows are of sky's story itself, and as ppl are pointing out she guides us to eden

[languid trail]

Aurora is a manifestation of Megan right?

[fallow estuary]

id say through, not to eden cause she was also there afterwards

[obsidian sapphire]

Sorry if this has already been answered but did we already know the war in wasteland was between sky people???

[long gull]

FINALLY I CAN SCREAM ABOUT THE LORE OF THE CONCERT AAAAA so…we all agree that aurora is the megabird, right?

[random token]

I didnt! I was just being dumb dumb.

[weak osprey]

What about the spirits? And her form during the concerts

[obsidian sapphire]

I had no clue and it literally got me in tears during the concert

[steep torrent]

YES BRO😭😭😭

[onyx onyx]

SCREAMING THAT LORE DROP

[fair knot]

I'm crying 🥲

[brave wave]

I was trying to see if any spirits looked familiar but it was hard to do: sensory overload

[random token]

I thought it was just between krills!

[austere bridge]

sm lore afgfgfgg

[deep osprey]

So uhhh... how are we doing...?

[fiery oracle]

That one spirit holding a manta 😭

[reef flax]

Like all Seasons arent exactly Canon, but we can make Headcanons with current Sky Lore that we know of

[fallow estuary]

i dont think shes a literal person in sky, its a representation of something. (please dont spam images here)

some are saying shes a representation of a pheonix, or some are saying light, others are saying a literal bird

[lucid bridge]

I interpret her as a personification of the Light

[sand cedar]

That was wonderful

[onyx onyx]

God the manta stuff all the manta lore I’m living for it

[merry bluff]

Sigh....I wished the other elders were there because I spotted the Dawn Elder in the beginning of the concert.

[random token]

Some lore images

[deep osprey]

It looked like they were trying to butcher it

[weak osprey]

I interpret her as the literal Voice of Light

[obsidian sapphire]

I always wondered tho bc it didn’t make a lot of sense for it to just be between krill and sky folks. Like the krill don’t seem to have plans ig

[fallow estuary]

but its something

[steep torrent]

This is better for #screenshots-and-videos !! But I adore the pics!!

[proven cape]

it looked like us skykids rose from the fallen soldiers...are we ourselves or are we the risen soldiers as children

[lucid bridge]

Like how Megabird may be a bird. Or a person.

[sand cedar]

I feel she was dressed as Megabird at the end and the end lullaby is the megabird singing

[long gull]

anyone else notice how the light of eden pulsates with her voice in warrior?

[untold notch]

hi chat :3c

[uncut pond]

I love how Dawn elder was just ancestor-sized in reality
The scrunkly

[weak osprey]

She is the one who calls. Who guides us.
Perhaps the sky kids are what came from the dead light creatures and children

[steep torrent]

The part in isle was so beautiful was it before the war probably?

[obsidian sapphire]

No wait I had meant to write about my theories but I think we’re just literally sky people. You can see in the isle memories that they fell to earth in the same way

[random token]

Who were the ones surrounding us in isle?

[royal wagon]

i wonder who exploded the ships

[deep osprey]

I think Megabird is just the universe.

Also the Aurora symbol, the Aurora wings, they kinda look like orbit, WAIT
Aurora IS Megabird?!?!

[soft timber]

flops here lovely performance, got to be different animals to Swoop™️

[steep torrent]

Maybe the first skykids idk

also what is the megabird you guys are referencing

[ember temple]

I just got back from the concert and I am here for this

[fallow estuary]

CAN WE PLEASE SEND PHOTOS TO #screenshots-and-videos AND NOT CLUTTER UP THIS CHAT, TY

[uncut pond]

That's probably just the bang from their cannons shooting, not their ships

[weak osprey]

Those were the canons exploding

[long gull]

well, we do know that we all come from the light. all is one and one is all. all light passed through the megabird to be reborn as a fallen star, so we very well might have the light of the ancestors in us as sky kids

[latent loom]

they weren't being exploded, the confetti is actually from the cannons on the ship. they're shooting the nets out

[random token]

What about lore images?

[proven cape]

that makes sense. when i saw the ending of the concert the first time, i felt like we were all Aurora. but seeing what people are saying she represents, perhaps we really are her, just in the sense that we are also representations of light

[royal wagon]

OH😭

[steep torrent]

One or two is fine but people have been sending multiple😰😰

[fallow estuary]

most of the images people are sending, are not really lore related.

[weak osprey]

Light goes in many directors but all from the same source

[random token]

Anyone want to guess as to what is falling into the wasteland? Shards? Fallen light?

[reef flax]

Aurora was already here before the Season happened too!
In the after Orbit when you Ascend and dont skip, you can hear her in the Vocalization of in some subtitles that said 'Women vocalizing',
And she is also in the credits at the ascension too‼️

[deep osprey]

That hits deep

[untold notch]

(concert spoilers!) ||evidence of darkstone mining let's Goooo||

[obsidian sapphire]

In the isle cave drawings it shows the ancestors arriving as fallen stars so I THINK???? That’s what we are

[fallow estuary]

what if all the winged light we collect, were actually kids that were left behind? cause im thinking back to when all the adults left the kid behind, and that kid is in the same spot as the wl we collect

and also how a lot of the wl are found in very off, secluded places... where many people could not find them

[random token]

I sent some :(!

[weak osprey]

oOoooh. Yes! That actually sounds about right

[deep osprey]

I thought the kiddin was running wayfarer

[ember temple]

@gloomy heath

[steep torrent]

Y’all I’m so upset we didn’t get to be crabs

[languid trail]

There’s actually a theory that winged lights are parts of the king that they left behind or something

[rancid yarrow]

divine punishment for those who abused the mantas ? idk

[obsidian sapphire]

Wiahhhh that makes sense. I had wondered if the corruption was blocking sky folks from coming and only recently we were able to come through. So my theory was that the winged lights are sky children who couldn’t quite manifest all the way physically

[untold notch]

I'm so upset we only saw dawn elder but at least we saw an elder

[round parrot]

Here comes the lore mofths

[fallow estuary]

the kid stayed at the bridge thing, despite being the first person there. maybe they might be a runaway, but maybe not. where is there to run if its all a desert?

[tropic totem]

Imagine being Krills

[lusty merlin]

Differnt staff, broken mask like??? Where would this be in the timeline at the beginning of the sky kingdom??

[deep osprey]

I thought I saw a spirit holding a sword to a manta!

[reef flax]

Opening Text of the game for people who wanna fall back to it

But darkness came, and the stars fell...
Together, the fallen stars made a new home in the clouds.
If only they had listened...
A long time has passed. Now, I call to you. 
Wake up, child.  Bring our lost stars home.```

[high escarp]

i want to also mention that behind aurora after warrior of love was a large sun/star looking halo that changed from red to blue slowly back and forth, similar to how dark creatures eyes do

[steep torrent]

OH EM GEEEEEE???

[round parrot]

OOO YES

ALSO WE TURN INTO A BIRD

[untold notch]

me: hi
Aurora: the war
me: ok

[winter shale]

Exactly like they could've just reused a Isle Elder model they already had... BUTTTT THEY DIDNT 👁

[random token]

Sky people were basically their own downfall! Some tried to stop it.

[wanton pulsar]

The spirits fought each other?!! Hello??

Lore yes delicious lore

[fallow estuary]

can we not spam please, people can explain the image instead of sending the same screenshots over and over again ;A:

[high escarp]

possibly over greed for the last remaining light, itd make sense why there was a vault

[steep torrent]

Thisssss omgggg it was kind of really sad too because their world seems so peaceful

[atomic grove]

I feel bad for all the rays they were catching during warrior of love. I'm glad they broke free 💜

[obsidian sapphire]

It seems we may have caused the corruption too in the past like the crabs turning dark after we took up their environment. Almost like evolutionary adaption to danger

[deep osprey]

No but I SAW a spirit about to slice a manta

[past canyon]

It's the hype, let it be for a few hours

[winter shale]

Personally I think the war was between people against the cruel use of this light power, and the ones using it

[untold notch]

it'll calm down eventually

[lusty merlin]

Also was this symbolism for eden with the two butterflies? That was my first thought at seeing this

[fallow estuary]

well, its during a war. so possibly a bit farther into the future, before we came in and before everyone got all.. corrupted (before the king did) but a bit after people found out they can use light

[obsidian sapphire]

Yea when the showed sky people killing each other there were also some killing mantas

[random token]

We’re all avoiding the question as to who’s side Wasteland elder was on

[mental stag]

That concert was so good I loved it SO MUCH

[weak osprey]

You're never alone. Rebirth. Hope.

[winter shale]

I've always wanted to figure this out

[deep osprey]

Well if he's in the temple, then probably defending.

[round parrot]

Hmm

[obsidian sapphire]

Also who is this king people keep mentioning

[fallow estuary]

thats cause we dont have much info lmao 💀

[lucid egret]

LORECHAT HOW WE FEELIN TONIGHT

[chrome igloo]

Looking at the notes from the concept art, I believe it’s confirmed we’re created by the Mother bird!!!

She wanted to restore the world after the war so she created a new being that’s a mix of the creatures of light and the ancestor spirits

In a way I’d say we are the stars, as we came from mother bird’s orbit

[high escarp]

possibly the "greedy" side :( theyre seen defending the entrance to vault which is likely where they kept the light, but also it could be interpreted as them DEFENDING the remaining light from the greedy ones!!

[random token]

well we kinda have more now. As someone said he might be defending

[untold notch]

we didnt even see wastelnd elder remember

[weak osprey]

Looks like a pilgrimage

[lusty merlin]

Yeah I can see that, until now I was convinced their mask broke during the eden explosion like seen in shattering, which concerns me because if they’re mask is broken here then did that mean the elders survived shattering?? I’m still recovering from the concert that was alotttt

Like in the final memory their mask was shown to break from the explosion

[uncut pond]

I just witnessed the Third Impact in Sky, how am I even supposed to feel

[thorny zealot]

I'd say it's a simple thing to understand, our ancestors used light creatures for power and light, we see hints of this from the season of abyss. This shows us in the end the battle was never against the forces of evil, we we're the darkness destroying this world, and the world was angry at us for it. (By we I mean our ancestral people)

This story sounds strangely familiar doesn't it?

[stiff bough]

We saw Dawn elder? When?

[fallow estuary]

how do we know hes in the castle?

[random token]

Maybe he be in the tower or temple or battlefield

[round parrot]

Off with Resh issues
And getting stabbed

[lusty merlin]

I’m confused about their staff it’s more fitting with a darkstone pallet

[languid trail]

Did we see resh after the wasteland battle scene？

[lucid egret]

I find it funny how Aurora is just. So small compared to the spirits. Teeny

[random token]

… the mantas were out there by sky people.. in the chamber.. how am I just realizing this I’ve been here since ASSEMBLY

[untold notch]

if only we could've gone just slightly past the gate i know thats where they would have been

[reef flax]

Something we do know is that the Ancient Spirits and Ancient Civilizations have fought each other due to some incidents.

Perhaps the Sun Warriors(The Citizens of the Wasteland) have fought other Civilians due to wanting of the Knowledge in the Vault.
(The Wasteland Temple is the technical entrance to the Vault of Knowledge)

[obsidian sapphire]

Ahhh that’s confusing then…. It seems like we’re the same as the elders bc of the isle memories. You even see a child dropping from the sky in the same way and being taken in by two older sky people

[cerulean blade]

IS AURORA MEGABIRD

[random token]

Who be resh

[lucid egret]

What’s that?

[latent loom]

so this is my kind of overall story I think I've gathered from the concert memories:

our ancestors mined for darkstones to power their gates, but those eventually ran out. as the light creatures helped and befriended our ancestors, the ancestors realized the creatures' light could be used for power. they were converted into the power crystals (as seen in Abyss murals).

around the same time, mantas were being captured by the Valley to be tamed for racing. the mantas started to fight back, breaking each other out (at the end of Warrior we see mantas smashing through the cages to free others). the light creatures that once helped the ancestors start fighting back, with some ancestors siding with the mantas. this leads to the war between the ancestors.

corruption grows, eden shatters, and the pieces of the shattering spread corruption. this (plus whatever the blue light is that's falling on the battlefield) utterly destroys the world. Megabird, or in this physical manifestation as Aurora, realizes there's still hope in the children and she guides them through Orbit so they can be born again as Children of the Light. not only are we going through rebirth, we're supposed to help Sky as a whole be born again

[languid trail]

The king

[copper saffron]

Alright lorechat how we feeling

[lusty merlin]

Thinks about this because this was one of the few things i couldn’t understand, is it one of the ancestors from ushering skygazers memory taking this kid to the temple?

[random token]

Ohh that’s what we named him oki

[high escarp]

i think its so poetic that if aurora really is the spirit of the light itself, she inflicted the storm upon wasteland as punishment for their greed

[copper saffron]

Literally
Aurora rising out of the ground also made me go "is this the end of evangelion 💀 "

[random token]

Lore I must sleep for tonight. But I think we got a lot covered keep chatting 👍 . Beautiful season. Amazing concert. Tasty lore

[pastel brook]

[cerulean blade]

APPARENTLY AURORA IS MEGABIRD

[sudden smelt]

I always interpreted that as them capturing the mantas to use to power the darkstones instead of just using them to race

[lusty merlin]

Aurora singing with skykids and showing what she had to do with the ancestors in wasteland:😎

[high escarp]

i got close to her light orb in the seed and she had lightning pulsing around her alongside the blue crashing

[latent loom]

I think it was both at the same time

[opaque ivy]

Everyone as soon as they Saw: 😀😦

[copper saffron]

I think aurora is the voice of megabird

[cerulean blade]

pulls out the theory of Resh being a small skykid in a gigantic mecha GET IN THE ROBOT, RESH

[obsidian sapphire]

Not all of the ancestors in wasteland were fighting against the creatures of light tho

[fringe pond]

I always thought of Aurora as a part of megabird and not megabird itself?

[round parrot]

Well, not exactly. Rather a representation of Megabird, the embodiment of Megabird, but not Megabird itself

[untold notch]

im still not sure if aurora is megabird

[languid trail]

Did aurora make the storm though because if she’s light then she can’t really give them a storm with darkness?

[wanton pulsar]

Voice of Megabird

[lusty merlin]

Why would she show that to a bunch of kids though that she personally wreaked havoc on a civilization? Idk just doesn’t quit fit right to me

Don’t get me wrong I love this idea but yeah

[obsidian sapphire]

Also whatever was shooting down in that storm knocked out my light so that doesn’t make much sense

[copper saffron]

Also we actually see a second spear design based on concept art!

[chrome igloo]

I personally believe the cut scenes/flash backs we witnessed are canon, but we the sky kids ourselves were taking a different form/perspective for the sake of the concert experience. I don’t think we were actually there for those events

I doubt all of the concert is canon bgjvjgj. There’s a lot of contradictions to previous lore :v

[uncut pond]

#sky-memes message

[round parrot]

Yo Astral

I wanna show you something
(if I could properly get the images for it)

[high escarp]

i also tried to fly into the eye of the storm and it did it as well

[cerulean blade]

so...
Aurora is sort of...a split from Megabird? a part of Megabird? actually Megabird???

[icy ember]

THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING

[tropic totem]

Bc those who forget history are doomed to repeat it

[languid trail]

Physical manefestion？

[high escarp]

i think shes a vessel of megabird

[obsidian sapphire]

Yeah it happened even if I wasn’t in the eye. Just running into the trails of blue knocked it out. I don’t see why the megabird or whatever would create a storm that further hurts light creatures etc

[violet sable]

100% megabird

[uncut pond]

Technically, everybody is a part of Megabird, that's its whole gimmick

[icy ember]

AURORA’s deity form is so cool with the really long hairrrrr

[copper saffron]

Aurora is a representative of megabird, a physical form of it. Megabird cant communicate directly, aurora speaks for it

[rugged briar]

After the war just wanted to point out how she seems to come together from and collected energy generated by the creatures. Kind of wondered if she is energy from the planet itself, and if the war had an impact on her and made her lash out as well. Afterwards as she regenerated she was much more compassionate.

[lusty merlin]

Maybe there’s a bunch of gods in the sky world and aurora and megabird are a few of them? Like how there’s a lot of gods in different religions/mythology, wouldn’t be surprised if there were more god like beings outside of those two

Possibilities are endless and there’s a lot we can go through

[high escarp]

she seems to be very powerful though and able to connect with the life force of creatures and plants all on her own though! as she controls the little bird that speaks to us at the start and can turn small light butterflies into new light spirits

[steel oriole]

😭

[grand lantern]

I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who thought of this

[icy ember]

OOOH multiple deities is such an interesting idea. I love it

[round parrot]

SPOILERS FOR IT BEING TOO BRIGHT

I like to think that Aurora is somewhat more connected to megabird or "the light" more than regular light creatures

The first image shows "the light" and Aurora's voice in the 2nd picture, you cannot tell me that they both do not have similarities

[past canyon]

Yeah but she's also kind of a giantess

[hoary sigil]

Isn't it that Aurora is the "voice" of the light? Like how the angel metatron is the voice of god

[steel oriole]

the concept of death in sky changed for me too, i think

[high escarp]

i think maybe the reason she sent the darkness down to wasteland was to purposefully wipe out the spirits. they were only consumed by greed and war, and she stopped them entirely in their tracks to prevent them hurting themselves more, at the cost of almost killing all her light children

[uncut pond]

I think that might just be the power of Colored Lights, and Sky Aurora just so happens to have the power to project memories into mindspaces like the Night Elder

[icy ember]

Like Megabird is the creator god and then Aurora is the goddess of music and love and light or smthn. Makes me wonder if there is a dark deity

[broken pendant]

you guys gonna have a field day with this one

[lusty merlin]

This is a stretch with no proof but what if aurora is a personification of the rebirth cycle in sky? Mainly with the eden flying and rising up to ascend after the seed song, that desert place before we see giant aurora felt like a nod to eden

[past canyon]

YEZYEZYES MY IMMÉDIATE THOUGHTS WHEN I SAW HUGE AURORA

[round parrot]

Lorechat is literally piling up I am too used to it being dead

[copper saffron]

several people are typing

[violet sable]

AURORA KIDNAPS CHILDREN, THAT IS WHY THE MANTAS AND BUTTERFLIES KIDNAP CHILDREN TOO BECAUSE SHE CREATED THEM

[uncut pond]

You don't see this everyday in lorechat

[round parrot]

And so is Megabird

[obsidian sapphire]

But not all the ancestors were 😦 it looked like an even split to me in the wasteland. After the storm you see dead children, and the storm hurt the environment and creatures as well. It doesn’t seem in line with the rest of what was shown for her to have created the storm

[low spindle]

Finally after a while of waiting in beta, I can see all your theories!

[high escarp]

think back on the poems in shattering. maybe she destroyed the light or perhaps SHE was destroyed/broken somehow. we see her gradually grow more "powerful" looking as she regains her wings and her dress over the course of the songs

[round parrot]

And a bunch of lore moths

[icy ember]

was anyone else STOKED to finally see Isle of Dawn before it was destroyed?

[soft ledge]

AURORA Concert Theory:

Exhale/Inhale:
Aurora tells us the story of how she came to be in the first place. She found herself waking up in an ocean covered in darkness, and her light ended up breathing life into a cold and empty world.

Runaway:
She took us on a journey in the past and showed us how she met the first Ancestors. She was guiding them to her island and allowed them to grow and flourish. She even gave them the necessary knowledge to travel in Light Boats. The Ancestors started worshipping her in return for the gifts she had provided them.

All is Soft Inside:
Aurora showed us that there's more to the Creatures of Light than meets the eye. The Light creatures are always willing to help people in need, even if it risks their own safety. That's why Aurora said "Call to them when you're in need of help" right after the song.

Warrior:
It started to go downhill from here. The Ancestors weren't satisfied with what they were given, so they started poaching the mantas illegally. This angered Aurora and she couldn't accept the fact that they were desecrating her creatures in her own kingdom after all that she's done for them.

The Seed:
Because of what the Ancestors have done, Aurora lashed out and showed them the true power The Light. The Ancestors were nearly defenseless against them because the light creatures were stronger when fighting together. They took a massive damage from the war and retreated to their kingdom.

[obsidian sapphire]

Had me tearing up

[languid trail]

Is music a type of magic? Or is it just Aurora

[uncut pond]

Again I'll say SkyAurora probably just has memory-illusion-mindspace powers similar to that of Night/Vault Elder, which combined with Colored Lights leads to her being able to bring thousands into her mindspace

[soft ledge]

Through the Eyes of a Child:
After witnessing the damages caused by her rage, Aurora felt guilty for the deaths of countless children who played no part in the war. She realized that they shouldn't suffer from the consequences of the mistakes their parents made. As an act of apology, she used her power to breathe life back into those children. What happened next was unexpected because as she brought them back to life, a portion of her light was also imparted to them. She created the very first Children of Light and gave them a refuge, Her home among the stars which is the Orbit.

Queendom:
Aurora finally learns to forgive the Ancestors for what they've done and allowed them to ascend into the stars upon their deaths. She also states that no matter the difference we have, or the mistakes we've made, we'll always have a place in her Queendom.

[high escarp]

maybe she was desperate, like a risky last ditch effort to stop those who wanted to take the light even at the cost of the lives of those who tried to protect it

[tropic totem]

I was so excited to see the wasteland like that too when we got there!! But it was just... Chaos

[obsidian sapphire]

Yeah maybe! I wonder tho if the corruption could happen to all the creatures if it could happen to the environment as well. Like global warming sky edition

[copper saffron]

ok here's how i interpret it
inhale exhale seems to be megabird talking to the skykid as a kinda mother. but though the eyes of a child makes me think that megabird reincarnated parts of itself as skykids to experience the world again with the wonder that a newborn skykid would. because it's fed up with the monotony of life as it was before.

and i think the runaway memory, the skykid on the dock, is actually the prince/chosen one depicted in prophecy murals

and as for the seed
im not sure if we're watching the collapse, or the stars falling

[round parrot]

Well.. here are my thoughts on it:

I find interesting the sand already appearing in the realm (or perhaps what looks to be sand)
And then later we see the Elder fall down to their knees, almost sad or upset or something...

this would definitely prove a point to the headcanon of "Elders are their Realms"
Where we see the Isle Elder somewhat not in a good shape, so does their realm

[high escarp]

i REALLY wanted to get a glimpse at pre-war wasteland...i have this huge theory it was once "golden shore" and got polluted by this greed for light

[icy ember]

BUT IT ADDED SO MUCH STORY!! I also couldn’t figure out if the spirits were fighting mantas or each other

[obsidian sapphire]

Both

[cerulean blade]

so TLDR: AURORA is Megabird

[pastel brook]

all my krills, greeting me here as a friend I'm home, waiting for time to let go...

[uncut pond]

Each other, seems like some ancestors were against the exploitation of Light Creatures

[round parrot]

Tbh the war only solidifies the idea we already have.. it doesn't really add anything to my knowledge

[violet sable]

All of the murals have been building up to this for years

[copper saffron]

there are two spear designs! we see a second one in the seed
this might mean there was a civil war of sorts

[icy ember]

Fair fair. But theory confirmed is added knowledge in my book

[round parrot]

YESSSS SPEAR DESIGNSSSS
SPEARS MY BELOVE-

[violet sable]

But we have new knowledge that AURORA caused the war and sent the krills, and that she created sky kids

[copper saffron]

not necessarily, at least i didnt interpret it that way

[obsidian sapphire]

What?? I missed that

[uncut pond]

No we don't lol

[languid trail]

Does anyone know which side (sun or diamond on the shield) is defending and which side is attacking

[atomic lava]

i dont think aurora is megabird i think she is light but not megabird... but still she is a goddess imo

[violet sable]

In the memory quest itself it should that the blue lights were krills, in the concert is showed AURORA sending blue streaks through the hole

[icy ember]

Didn’t megabird create descendants(skykids) with its dying breath or smthn?

[sudden smelt]

Wait aurora caused the war and sent the krills? What?? Where

[obsidian sapphire]

I don’t think Aurora sent the blue streaks though

[copper saffron]

here's the thing, we cant say for sure that aurora sent the shards we see in the seed. we dont know. she may just be recounting what happened

[obsidian sapphire]

Also I thought krills were corrupted light creatures

[violet sable]

Well I think the dark water caused the krills based on what we saw in Abyss

[round parrot]

I dont think Aurora summoned ths krills. In fact, we don't see any in the concert.
Its more of Aurora showing us what happened that time, rather than her causing a problem.

[uncut pond]

I'd say the sun shields might've been the ones attacking, based on their insignia not being literally a dark diamond like the one in Eden beyond the Wasteland temple

[copper saffron]

darkness takes two forms, red and blue shards. the blue ones were mined and turned into darkstone. but the ones falling may not even be shards. they could be the ancestors/stars falling as said in the opening sections

[icy ember]

I’m pretty sure krills are caused by a light creatures unnatural death such as being killed by a spirit or having all its light drained from dark stone

[sudden smelt]

I did quest 4 loads of times and no where did I get the idea that it was aurora who sent the krills? May I ask evidence?

[low spindle]

I think we first need to establish if Aurora is canon in the world of sky,(was it confirmed anywhere?)

[languid trail]

I don’t think Aurora sent the shards/blue stuff that drains light, because supposedly after all the scenes I’d say she is a representation of light and darkness and light generally don’t mix together

[violet sable]

Perhaps she sent the light creatures and some turned to krills from pollution which came after the war

[copper saffron]

i agree, they may also be the ones using the split spear design

[round parrot]

The diamond is quite possibly for the ones that wanted to use the mantas for diamonds, while the sun shields are the ones who wanted to protect them

[tropic totem]

Harmony hall?

[obsidian sapphire]

Yeah I wouldn’t take Aurora as canon personally but either way I don’t think there’s evidence from the concert that she caused any of it

[lusty merlin]

I’m on the side of megabird and aurora being two separate beings but that’s just me, two gods with megabird making the sky kingdom and aurora specializing in song and light, that’s just me through

[round parrot]

I dont think she sent anyone or anything... As I said, she was trying to show something to the Skykids, rather than manipulating the scene

[copper saffron]

yeah, i dont think aurora is megabird. she speaks for it, but is as much a part of it as we are

[low spindle]

I always thought the mural was just a little easteregg or teaser. But if we count that as an actual occurrence in tbe sky universe then it could be canon.

Im just worried were going to fall into the lore realm that happened with little prince

[violet sable]

An outside observer to what happened, Aurora created us so she is a part of Megabird or is megabird

[hushed steeple]

Hi lore chat was T and S in the war scene because I did not see them

[languid trail]

Wait gotta check something real fast

[round parrot]

Conspiracy theory that the concept was done to convert Skykids to be Aurorists real

[past canyon]

that's also historically the role of a singer in storytelling

[uncut pond]

Everyone is a part of Megabird btw

[violet sable]

She did create sky children though and now we know she creates them from butterflies

[icy ember]

Lol because of this season I became one of the top 0.1% of Aurora’s listeners on Spotify

[hushed steeple]

Man. Its funny how some stuff gets taken….
Well aurororrora confirmed mega and tutorial bird. So its a double edged sword. On one hand they exist now. And another, they kinda don’t anymore.

[obsidian sapphire]

But it might just be metaphorical. We see multiple transformations between creatures during the concert

[violet sable]

And we are a part of Aurora as shown in the concert "a part of her queendom"

[pastel brook]

look at it go, look at me dance over the Sky like a krill

[uncut pond]

I'm sorry for being rude but like

[round parrot]

Yikes

[rugged briar]

In the first act we see her becoming creatures and as she leaves them to die they blacken and grow plants, while her humanoid form seems to become stone. She has an ability to summon birds but they scattered when she became human-like, along with storms brewing. The song seems to be her ultimatum that she’s had enough. Gets me wondering if she is what spawned all the dark plants, like if a sickness spread and culminated in her lashing out with an apocalyptic shower of energy. If you look into the sky you see bolts raining down from various holes that persist in Sky today. She does have the power to transform and collect energy from beings as seen in the Eyes of a Child act.

Also wondering if she either reincarnated a few times or had beings she specifically influenced. When she sings “Do you feel my hand? It is there.” we are shown these four spirits and they look different from the ones summoning her.

[violet sable]

I'm allowed to share my observations, please don't be hostile and just respectfully disagree with me, I'm not attacking anyone

[hushed steeple]

I din’t interpret it as she made em. Only as that like. More than one is good or something. Which was the theme.

[uncut pond]

If you wanna share observations, share them as observations instead of just stating them like if they were facts

[copper saffron]

everyone is arguing lmao this concert is gonna break lorechat
queendom is aurora singing for megabird that we are welcome in its world. aurora can take multiple forms, but doesnt mean she's a god or anything.

[languid trail]

There’s a Sun shield in Eden don’t know what that can mean though,,, Also there’re two big swords

[hushed steeple]

Lol pretending sky has facts. I been there once.

[obsidian sapphire]

I sort of think Aurora is more of a narrator like… showing us what happened. In the beginning we see the cycle of corruption happening and I thought the lyrics were something about watching or seeing or something. I might be totally off though hahhahah

[warm aspen]

So there were two factions of ancestors in GW? I thought they are just Krills vs ancestors. Now we see mantas' revenge then probably later on evolved as Krills as they're tainted. (?)

[round parrot]

<. <

. >

yoinks headcanon

[hushed steeple]

Ultimately this entire thing was to make you “feel music experience” or something. Its all feelings. Thats why they keep taking out every shred of lore substance.

[violet sable]

I mean, AURORA is also the voice you hear at the very beginning of the game when you first enter Isle of Dawn and when you are reincarnated from Eden, so I would consider it as fact that she created sky children or at least resurrected them

[high escarp]

theres definitely a connection between auroras spirit and the origin of light itself OR the origin of sky kids. whether shes some vessel of megabird or a separate deity of light i dont think we'll ever know, but the connection is very clear. when she takes us through orbit she is literally the exact colors of the mural sky child, blue with gold light wings. and gold is a very important color often associated with light and ascension

[past canyon]

Maybe Aurora is the friends we made along the way

[round parrot]

My pfp jumpscare real

[potent sedge]

So how we feeling lore chat?

[past canyon]

You're being watched

[hushed steeple]

The wings are also meant to kinda be megaish. Does it matter if its her or not? We barely knew the thing existed, and now we know, even if it did, its just a real person whos doing a crossover.

[languid trail]

Aurora is the voice singing in orbit, which reminds me, does the lyrics have meaning?

[potent sedge]

Me personally i wonder what were the blue lights falling into the clouds in the GW bit

[violet sable]

Like I'm climbing over others to share my observations. I thought the lore was pretty straightforward

[past canyon]

Iirc no, just vocalizations

[round parrot]

Aight no more gatekeeping

Its megabird'n time

[high escarp]

but the connections to the lore arent entirely debunked because its a crossover. at the game awards it was stated the concert and collab was a very long thing in production

[hushed steeple]

Same. Soldiers got blasted away when it fell. I assumed some kind of weapon.

[obsidian sapphire]

Yelling into the void

[tropic totem]

It kinda was but then Aurora came and decided to make Sky the new Kirby

[violet sable]

How long did it take to make the concert according to the game awards?

[past canyon]

They are the same picture

[potent sedge]

Me at first when i was at the rehearsal i thought it was the stars from the kingdom above falling

[hushed steeple]

Taranza pfp. Clearly good taste in charies.

I still go to kirby for lore.

[round parrot]

I hate that you're correct /light-hearted

[icy ember]

These songs that don’t have words but have syllabic vocaloids make me want to know the language of the sky kingdom

[obsidian sapphire]

Ok theory time…. Maybe their language is part vocal (honks) part gestural like asl

[round parrot]

Basically echolocation?

[icy ember]

OOH what if it’s a tonal language!

[soft ledge]

Megabird: ❌

Megaurora: The Mother of Light: ✅✅✅✅✅

[past canyon]

Also Sky language : eeeeee wªªªªª wuuuuu oooooooo nnnnnnªª

[high escarp]

and also the mural isn't a 1:1 depiction. all murals in sky have their differences from the thing theyre based on! aurora could indeed be some personification of light and the cycle of rebirth, or the mural shown in the isle of dawn is quite literally made up by her on the spot to guide us, and it makes sense because she acts like our guide through dawn

[warm aspen]

I think I've said this before but megabirb is like a supercluster.

It's basically clusters of galaxies

[obsidian sapphire]

YEA !!! And not necessarily echolocation although they do use it to see each other from a distance but more like a combo of multiple communication methods

[potent sedge]

Ik i sound like I'm a diehard for Tom Zhao but I swear I'm not)

It's very similar to Zhao's concept art of the "holy land" where animals weren't allowed in the holy land and when the animals came anyway, they were killed

[round parrot]

HEY
NO SLANDERING BIRDS HERE ALRIGHT

WE APPRECIATE BIRDS IN THIS HOUSEHOLD

huge /light-hearted tone tag

[icy ember]

YES WE LOVE TOM ZHAO

[hushed steeple]

I don’t think shes Mega I think Mega does not exist anymore and she REPLACED it.

[copper saffron]

ur welcome lol
i have a ton of headcanons about aurora's relation to the light and the kingdom but i dont have time rn to type them all up and id probably wait for lorechat to calm down a bit since my ideas dont all line up with the rest of lorechat
like the blue things in the seed one
are they darkness or are they stars?

[past canyon]

Aurora: let's harmonize together
Me:

[obsidian sapphire]

I refuse to acknowledge her as canon she looks too human

[tropic totem]

She looks like a spirit?

[hushed steeple]

Anyway. Its a real person. And I prefer my lore fictional.

I don’t think that would stop them though.

[obsidian sapphire]

WHERE IS THE MASKKKKK /joking

[soft ledge]

Maybe she IS human. The only human like entity in this realm

[ocean grove]

LORE LORE LORE CONCERT LOREEEEE
Im not so sure that Aurora is actually megan, that seems like It would be kinda odd to just throw that in especially since megan ha been such a big concept for so long. it seems more like shes speaking for her or the voice of her, something along those lines.
Also, how does resh fall into all this? Like do we know when or how or if hes at fault for or involved in all the manta war and Aurora corruption stuff?

[potent sedge]

I personally think she is the voice of megabird made manifest

[round parrot]

Yes this is a spirit /light-hearted joke

[copper saffron]

i agree
i think the kid in the runaway one might be the king/prince/chosen one

[hushed steeple]

Anyway. Soon we find out King was Jenova the entire time or something like that.

[obsidian sapphire]

I think. They made a superbly enjoyable experience for us that also revealed some history … that’s all. BUT WHO KNOWS

[ocean grove]

Oh interesting i haven't heard that one, why is that?

[buoyant mortar]

so lore chat how we doin after the concert

[soft ledge]

I just proposed to Aurora and she said Yes.

If Aurora is the Mother of The Light, and everyone is the Children of the Light, that makes me Holy Moth, Step Dad of the Light

[hushed steeple]

So one more clarification, no one but normal spirits and mantas were in the war scene, yeah?

[obsidian sapphire]

also please. Who is this king. I’m new here

[warm aspen]

All this lore but no one's talking about how she just throws Skykids out the stadium lololol

[past canyon]

Gotta have a chat with Who

[violet sable]

Correct

[hushed steeple]

He barely exist anyway. Basically a cut antagonist who had concept art who looked like a skykid at one point. He still has statues all over the game.

[violet sable]

We need a pre-apocalyse isle season ASAP because GRASS

[buoyant mortar]

is there a place where i can find all of the sky lore

[obsidian sapphire]

Oh dang how weird

[copper saffron]

look at the way that the ancestors are posed, it's like theyre praying or reaching out for them. and after the child reaches out, the boats appear, perhaps the chosen one was the one who helped the development of those flying mechanisms and how to harness light, before then, maybe they only had creatures to transport

[ocean grove]

Prophecy chosen one / eden elder / resh i believe???
Im not very well versed in this stuff yet so take this with a large chunk of salt

[hushed steeple]

Me when I see grass in Isle of Dawn: explodes

[thick river]

Where?

[sudden smelt]

It would be so cool if the wings didnt tp you back to the concert…l but instead to the places shown in the concert

[obsidian sapphire]

Sky anakin

[high escarp]

i had a realization, "through the eyes of a child", she could literally be referencing the innocence and unbiased kindness of sky children, and the way they changed her views. our characters never selfishly take or seek out light and only give it to each other and the spirits. and as we return to her and fly through orbit, she welcomes this new light into her world

[obsidian sapphire]

Ancestors were also sky kiddos tho

[languid trail]

There’s Tom Zhao’s concept arts, Also there’s a google document (I think it’s pinnned?)

[icy ember]

BRUH I MADE A MINI CONCEPT FOR THAT SEASON!! I called it season of origins and the spirits would tell stories of Sky’s history through dance. Each spirit would be based off of a different cultures dance and it would add a new area that was a recreation of the Aviary. And then in the cutscenes it would show isle with grass and all the other realms pre-fall. Also I was thinking there would be an item holding a memory that would take you to the grassy isle

[atomic lava]

the lore is left open for us to decide all the facts but a common theory is that he was the first sky kid, and came to isle, brought the elements out of the trials, and became king its also commonly believed that he mightve gotten too power-hungry, and accidentally caused eden to explode (but its not fact ^_^ so you can decide if you think that or not)

[buoyant mortar]

thank you

[high escarp]

i think she feels differently because after this "mass rebirth" none of us turn selfish like the others

[copper saffron]

i think this is megabird talking about partly why it created the skykids. it wanted to relive the world from a new perspective, from the innocence that a child would. after everything with the ancestors

[high escarp]

despite how much light we collect we still return it to the cycle every time

[hushed steeple]

Also, heh. The light the ancestors gathered is canonically bird droppings now.

[obsidian sapphire]

So this is my first season I’m probably lacking knowledge. Can someone tell me where there’s indication we sky kids are different from the ancestors? Bc we see sky kids drop from the sky in ancestor memories, all ancestors are indicated to have come from the sky (isle almost seems like a way station) and I haven’t seen anything to show we’re different or special

[icy ember]

I have a confusion. Cuz the spirits that we relive memories of are fallen stars right? So then why is the child from the one isle spirit’s memory also a fallen star?

[rugged briar]

I think she’s a third party in the war while at least two factions were in conflict. I sort of see her from what we are shown and hear as a spirit of the world itself who became frustrated, perhaps poisoned from how they were treating the world and from their negative energy, had had enough of the visitors from the sky and lashed out regardless of how it hurt other beings. As birds we are able to become singed by her storm and ultimately get burned as we are cast down with her and respawned as butterflies.
The “Eyes of a Child” seems to be to me like she recollects herself from the positive energies of the local fauna in the calm and quiet, regrets her actions and so collects the souls of the innocents around her and shepherds them home as they initially came from the stars. Just an interpretation.

[hushed steeple]

Switch trailer shows ancestors cannot fly. Old dev q&a says skykids will not grow into ansestors. Old old timeline says megabird, who may not exist anymore in this canon “blessed the land with a new race” after the old one died up due to overusing darkstone.

[round parrot]

Debateable whether the blue child is the chosen one or Runaway Wayfarer

[high escarp]

honestly i dont know much besides one characteristic: chest gem (this is a snippet from one of my own personal theories)

[languid trail]

We’re all fallen stars I guess, it’s just that the Spirits probably originally lived in orbit before falling and sky kids just fall down as birth?

[round parrot]

I know that font

It's from Vela

[potent sedge]

Seeing the storm bit of GW reminded me of Tom Zhao's concept art of Eden which was a black hole.

[obsidian sapphire]

So in isle we see the ancestors being given candles when they arrive!

[icy ember]

I personally believe/hope it’s the chosen one. I stan king as canon

[tulip salmon]

omg lore chat is popping

[obsidian sapphire]

Whack….. I wish they showed that then bc the memories seem to go against it

[hushed steeple]

I think ancestors had a rebirth cycle long before skykids

[potent sedge]

I knew y'all would go crazy.

[uncut pond]

The only difference we know is that Skids can gather the power of Winged Light to fly, and can be reborn.

Outside of that? Everyone is light creatures fallen from the stars, ancestors or otherwise, so not much difference there

[ocean grove]

Yeah from what ik megan was chilling with the stars and then the stars went to / made seven realms and then screwed it up real bad and then megan was like" uh oh " and sent us to supposedly fix that / " bring our lost stars/ light back"

[atomic lava]

we're tied to the light, indicated through the fact that we can use it to fly, we are like candles and we can be snuffed out by quick movements and water like rain, and the ancestors were never able to harness light like we can ! they came in boats and we came from the stars^^

[tulip salmon]

lemme join too i've been waiting to pop my theories

[buoyant mortar]

does anyone have the link to the big lore document?
i'm going to indulge myself in lore now

[hushed steeple]

Which ones? Manta rider and season flight shows they need boats and mants to fly. But for sure NONE of this stuff is actually put in the game where it belongs.

[icy ember]

I believe it’s a pinned message

[obsidian sapphire]

Nooooo in the isle ancestors memories we see them come from the stars as well and the rain also seems to affect the ancestors as they’re hiding in the forest 😔 dang my theories are crumbling

[tulip salmon]

okay i can't read 51+ messages when i open chat; but i think Aurora is somewhat the Megabird/The Light

[languid trail]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit

[obsidian sapphire]

I hadn’t thought about them being able to fly! Thanks for pointing that out. I figured they were using boats and mantas similarly to us, in that you can only fly so much bc our light is limited

[soft ledge]

Ancestors don't seem to be affected by the rain at all since they don't possess any light. They just don't like getting wet

[tulip salmon]

it might just be normal rain to them, to us is like pouring a cup of water onto candle

[round parrot]

Personally I believe it to be Running Wayfarer, if it was the chosen one, the why would it be associated with Running Wayfarer?

[uncut pond]

They're light creatures not unlike skids tho

[obsidian sapphire]

They all seem very averse to it but yea maybe they just don’t like their clothes getting wet 😭

[hushed steeple]

Could be the rain is polluted too. Since regular water is fine for skykids

[languid trail]

What about light guiding spirits? Is the light a part of them?

[atomic lava]

wait, what about the isle ancestors memories show them coming from the stars? sorry i think i missed that (/gen)

[high escarp]

hold on a second. i just notcied something about the chest gem and the aurora outfits. i dont know if its a visual glitch or intended but its very interesting. every outfit shows off the chest gem in some way (even if it clips), EXCEPT the ones only aurora wears or gives us. and her dress even has a star emblem where it should be!

[gloomy kettle]

May I ask what was the mega bird thar now aroura is that????

[ocean grove]

[hushed steeple]

Replaced. I assume.

[tulip salmon]

is about how similar their quest with the falling child in Isle :0?

[gloomy kettle]

Oh.... OHHHHH

[icy ember]

My fav headcanon is that the chosen was the first sky kid to arrive and more followed before the realms fell. My main oc is one of those. I also had an interesting idea that what if a sky kid fell in a different realm besides dawn and how the ancestors would react to that. I thought since valley is kinda the main high society area that what if skids were treated as good luck charms and were taken in by family’s and treated rlly well but also as possessions. Not rlly relative but it’s an interesting idea

[feral radish]

Actually, that's wrong, I just realized that. Elder Bird is a lower rank than MEGABIRD

[hushed steeple]

Not even Elder bird was allowed to exist. No large bird is allowed to exist in sky.

[obsidian sapphire]

Shoot I wish I had my screenshots ready but cave drawings plus initial narration says so I think. Then there’s the ancestor memory where two adult ancestors see a child ancestor fall from the sky. They run and take it in. Another ancestor is someone (my theory is he is a disciple from the temple) helping new sky people by giving them candles and helping them into the boat/ferry

[tulip hinge]

megabird turned the rebels into sand and stone

[icy ember]

Didn’t elder bird exist in season of rhythm?

[uncut pond]

Megabird is what the giant bird-shaped cluster of stars in Orbit and the Eden ascent is often called
It's theorized to be the collective consciousness of all light creatures that have ever ascended, and therefore The Light itself

[hushed steeple]

Interesting thing. That memory was changed during season of prophecy. Before, the memory was only them going on an uneventful walk.

[feral radish]

Go crazy with these lore images, everyone

[tulip salmon]

yeah i really like that too, being lonely they tried to build their way back to the sky but everything came crashing down

[soft ledge]

Okay let's list down the facts that makes Ancestors different from Light creatures.

Light Creatures can

• Fly ✅

Ancestors can

• Fly ❌ (need boat or mantas to fly)

Infact, Ancestors are more of an intelligent dark creature due to their skin color. And the fact that they're grounded people just proves that they are NOT Light Creatures

[atomic lava]

oh im pretty sure the child that fell from the sky is actually a sky kid its a depiction of us, starting to come down to the world (opinion)

[round parrot]

Elder bird is basically the Elder Manta but with birds
(and yes it is easy for it to get mixed up)

[hushed steeple]

Yep. No longer accessible.

[feral radish]

Yeah, Megabird is that constellation after Orbit, right?

[untold notch]

they ascend to orbit like we do /shrug that seems to be a light creature thing

[warm aspen]

Maybe because she is the "heart" ? 😆 Maybe she gave herself up for the birth of skykids lolol that's why we see her icon on us when we look at maps

[icy ember]

Megabird was just jealous and whisked elder bird to another dimension

[soft ledge]

That's their spirit ascending in the orbit.

Im talking about thr Ancestors when they were still alive

[hushed steeple]

RIP megabird you are now an actual real singer

[buoyant mortar]

this makes me wonder (a) what monster would cage up the mantas and (b) what caused the war

[tulip salmon]

okay i haven't got the chance to watch the concert fully but may i ask what with the first pic is about?

[obsidian sapphire]

I thought in that sort of theory we wouldn’t be coming down at the same time that ancestors exist tho /gen

[grave urchin]

Hi Lore Chat! Just popping by to ask about your sanity! Good bye and happy Theorizing!

[hushed steeple]

Skykids are thought to have come down after every spirit already died. Yes.

[uncut pond]

*Skids have a dark skin tone as well
*Not all light creatures can fly, see: fish (Abyss)
*Ancestors can ascend and are confirmed (by the new intro murals in Isle) to have come from the stars

I hope that clears some stuff up

[soft ledge]

Those are Ancestors spirits. They're already dead so of course they can fly.

Im talking about the time when they were alive. Ancestors are grounded creatures, they can't fly so there's not light Creatures

[icy ember]

Do ancestors possess a heart of light similar to skids?

[obsidian sapphire]

The murals def show them coming from the stars unless I’m going crazy. Which may be plausible

[soft ledge]

A theory was actually made based on this

Sky Kids are a combination of both Light Creatures and Ancestors. They possess both of their qualities

[obsidian sapphire]

yeah I think so! They are given candles and they have the dark orb you need to light before their memories are activated

[hushed steeple]

An old concept art says skykids are a hybrid of ansestor and light creature. Hence why they fly.

Not like…an actual flesh hybrid, more like their creator combined ideas.

[atomic lava]

that should be the case, but the first of us came down and met ancestors from what we've gathered ! i personally believe he came down alone because while we are made the same way he was, he had a different purpose i think we came after to bring light to the world after it lost so much

[warm aspen]

I agree. And isn't it that in trials, we can't use wings because it isn't really made for beings who can fly? The ancestors can't.

[languid trail]

The theory I agree with about skykids is that we’re containers for light

[high escarp]

ooh youre right! maybe we're collective pieces of her light inside a vessel (hence why when our light goes out, we are entirely blank) and therefore maybe the song "through the eyes of a child" represents us as parts of her nurturing the light and helping the spirits ascend?

[soft ledge]

Here's a concept art of what i was talking about

[round parrot]

WHOA WHOA WHOA

WHAT IS THAT LAST IMAGE

[buoyant mortar]

man getting into this lore is gonna be hard i've missed to much

[midnight root]

What bugs me is that there was this skykid during green Isle times. So... Skykids are older than we think and they also lived during spirit days. I've always thought that we are this new race meant to save the ruins of Sky

[tulip salmon]

i think that more like metaphor to that their soul are trap down here, maybe trauma too

[uncut pond]

Ancestors are literally Light creatures tho, they can ascend to The Light like the rest of Light Creatures and they came from the stars

All dark creatures we've seen so far are only corrupted versions of former light creatures

[warm aspen]

Exactly. I agree with your "thru the eyes of a child" statement

[hushed steeple]

In wasteland there used to be a mountain that would light up every time someone harvested a candle.

This was before release.

[feral radish]

Possibly during or after the first quest. The kid who did the butterfly charm emote is either Running Wayfarer or another child. Idk what else is there honestly

[icy ember]

Ok guys let’s do a poll

🌝 ancestors are light creatures
🌚ancestors are not light creatures
🌗 ancestors are not light creatures but still created by Megabird

[gloomy kettle]

So .... through the song worrier ... we get the thing that spirits used to try and catch mantas and later in the song the seed we see a war between the creatures and the spirits.... and my question is that war is the same as the one against darkness??? Or its just another war in another timeline???

[obsidian sapphire]

It still doesn’t change that they came from the stars and it’s in the same place as the light in our chests

[tulip salmon]

feel like we're trying to get our sibling back lol

[round parrot]

I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THAT

[soft ledge]

No, you're mistaking them with the spirits. The Spirits are the souls of dead Ancestors. The Ancestors were talking were still alive.

[uneven crow]

Wait I'm confused right now, aren't dark creatures like crabs and krills etc
I don't know much about the lore sorry

[soft ledge]

Okay again,

Spirits = Dead Ancestor

Ancestor = Alive Ancestor

So yes, spirits count as light creature, but they weren't light creatures back when they were still alive

[hushed steeple]

We call them ancestor spirits though.

[uncut pond]

This concept art only shows their connection/position in regards to the light, they got disconnected and indifferent to it

It doesn't state they're dark creatures of any sort

[icy ember]

Votes are closing soon! Make ur choice before the final count!

[fiery rune]

Cam someone explain me why
Aurora=Megabird now?

[uneven crow]

Ok so you're telling me that crabs and ancestors are the same species?

[obsidian sapphire]

But then why mural showing them coming from the stars 🤕 this is confusing

[gloomy kettle]

So ... is there like a character that you can say as example for ancestors???

[tulip salmon]

okay so i think that their heart isn't exactly like skykid, idk how to explain it fully

[ocean grove]

No wonder the concert said "memories of sky" in its description thingy

[untold notch]

since we have a bunch of new people it would probably be good to mention that it's important to say whether what you're saying is headcanon or canon (mentioned in game)

[languid trail]

No? I don’t really understand myself but it seems to display some sort of spectrum of light and dark?

[obsidian sapphire]

Man lore chat is a real mind twister

[hushed steeple]

No one knows about where spirits came from or if they fall as stars or if they have a rebirth cycle. Its all theories. Don’t let anyone tell you something is 100% fact. 100% fact does not exist in sky lore.

[rugged briar]

I think ancestors are creatures of light but were built different. Like they carry a light but were cast in a heavy stone material so to speak, they couldn’t fly but longed to. The new gen is a modern and lightweight pottery being.

[midnight root]

Yes, like... They came from earth somewhere beneath the clouds aka Sky queendom. And they somehow got raised by megabird which can stand for an allegory to the first spirit pilgrims arriving in boats in Isle.

[uncut pond]

If their souls were made of light and they weren't visibly corrupted abominations like krill, I don't think they're dark creatures

[soft ledge]

It represents us.

"We came from the stars" that line refers to children of the sky.

The Ancestors are basically the natives of this world

[round parrot]

Welcome to lorechat pal

[gloomy kettle]

Yeah everyone has their own theories..

[buoyant mortar]

my brain is melting i'm too tired for this 😭

[obsidian sapphire]

I definitely think there aren’t any definite facts yeah! More like I’m just trying to figure out what makes the most sense based on what’s been shown

[uncut pond]

Not really, the mural talks about the fall of the ancestors first, and it clearly states "starlight gives breath to all"

[atomic lava]

i think youre a little off but very close ^^ /lh /gen
as spirits, we are able to give light to our ancestors- they cannot harness it like a light creature can, but it allows them to ascend and eases their souls iykwim (opinion ofc)

[icy ember]

Interesting idea of mine. Not all crabs are dark creatures. If you notice only some of them drip the darkness and attack light but not all I believe crabs can be taken over by darkness but are not inherently dark creatures

[ocean grove]

Yeah not alot of confirmation from tgc on anything so its alot of theories and assumptions made on assumptions and such

[high escarp]

ancestors are born of light, sky children are VESSELS of light. a sky kid contains light and can share it through their heart (the gem turning into a candle) but the ancestors are FUELED by light and do not have an internal container of it, hence their need for more of it

[violet sable]

Crabs seem to be native to the queendom of sky

[uneven crow]

So what are those uncorrupted crabs? Are they light creatures? Just regular real life crabs?

[hushed steeple]

I personally think spirits have a rebirth cycle, they fall as children, like skykids, but unlike skykids, grow. They also collect light, fill themselves, and then take their new light filled soul back to orbit when they die. Dunno if they remember their past life like sky kids do.

The falling of the stars is when all of them currently in the cycle fell at once.

[gloomy kettle]

Mhm the only things that are 100% are the stuff we can see like the fact that we are made from light and we're basically stars that fell when the darkness arrived there is nothing about spirits and ancestors in sky ...

[icy ember]

Honestly no idea but they don’t seem to behave like dark creatures

[tulip salmon]

the color scheme is somewhat familiar, the voice when we enter Isle and flying to Orbit is her voice, and her vibe in that concert is giving deity. Megabird is know to be creator of all, we turn into bird, fish and see the past world might be their power

[obsidian sapphire]

Yesssss I always thought the darkness or whatever was something that happened to creatures, maybe as an adaption. There’s the crabs in sanctuary that are friendly

[warm aspen]

There's a thing on the concept art that shows light creatures becoming dark creatures because they absorb darkness over time. Crabs could be the same thing, if you look at it the hostile crabs are the ones on the darkness. The ones near fire or light (e.g. GW crabs that are being cooked) is not taken over by darkness. This is not canon tho i think

[hushed steeple]

Another one of the dev quotes is that what crabs are is hinted by the way they walk and NONE OF US COULD EVER DECODE THIS

[uncut pond]

As far as one can tell from the intro murals, all uncorrupted creatures are made from starlight

[languid trail]

Uncorrupted crabs just,,, exist, to, I guess show us that the darkness will eat up anything it can?

[violet sable]

Inhale Exhale shows AURORA entering the queendom of sky, perhaps she is a manifestation of megabird

[potent sedge]

I remember from the Shattering memories, i swear i think that the seeds of darkness floated to the crabs while the mantas escaped bc flying.

[obsidian sapphire]

Maybe I’m just too literal with the word ancestor I’ve been thoroughly convinced we’re the same 😮‍💨

[soft ledge]

There is a spectrum that indicates whether something is a light creature or not.

Light creatures are capable of generating light. They're bioluminescent creatures and they also have the skill to defy gravity and become weightless, which makes them fly.

Dark creatures are grounded creatures, they can't fly and often use other light creature as a mode of transportation.

"But Stepdad, Krills are dark creatures, how can they fly?!"

Well here's the thing, KRILLS are a result of Light Harvesting methods made by the Ancestors. Krills used to be a Light Creature, but their light was harvested for technological purposes. They've become aggressive, and attack anything that moves in front of them.

[ocean grove]

Yes, especially with the krill being corrupted whale theory deal, it seems like something similar happened to crabs to me

[icy ember]

The only thing similar to their walking is the gratitude symbol XD

[buoyant mortar]

i would like to believe they're just crabs. not light creatures, not irl crabs, just a crab species that's native to the sky realm we know and love

[cursive oracle]

Maybe they’re a neutral? Or they’re created by light like the hc about the ancestors but again they don’t contain it themselves and instead seek it out from power sources or natural light sources (like skykids)

[high escarp]

im going to share my theory master image that i made before aurora dropped - a lot of what i theorized still stands (open full image to read)

[digital mortar]

so I've been seeing a lot of connections between abyss lore and aurora lore, and I was thinking (I've not been in the lore chat much before this; so I'm not sure if this is something people already discussed) but I remember the last quest of abyss showed how the ancestors were harvesting light from the light dragon creature in treasure reef, and it seemed to be a source of energy that they were overharvesting (similar to mindful miner). I remember seeing theories about how they were waiting on the second ship to arrive as backup - but that ship never made it as it was attacked by krill over at shipwreck. I wonder if the krill were maybe manifestations of what happened to the light dragons after they had all of their light harvested? if they then were empty vessels that got fueled by darkness and twisted into the krills who were (rightfully so) angry at the ancestors for this (causing the battle we later see in battlefield memory). If this is true and it caused a light vs dark battle, then we see the ancestors capturing mantas in the concert, and the warrior/citadel memory is like a training montage of the mantas? but yeah idk, if any of this is agreed upon or disproven lmk! i'm still pretty green to the lore side of sky

[round parrot]

Curse you discord compression 😭

[high escarp]

if you save the image and zoom in/"open original" you can read it :3

[hushed steeple]

Bravo man. Thats seriously impressive. I agree with many of the points I skimmed.

[uncut pond]

That doesn't seem to be how it works
Remember, starlight gives breath to all, and crabs for sure aren't dark creatures seeing as they get corrupted from darkness and are otherwise friendly
And again, ancestors are light creatures

[buoyant mortar]

i like this a lot

[tulip salmon]

yeah i thought the same too, a physical form that took a lot of time to make. Kinda similar to Soraka in LoL that perhap over time that physical form will be burnt from it light (okay this is going off lol idk why i think of that)

[buoyant mortar]

we gotta get matpat to make a sky lore series

[high escarp]

its really a gathering of all my knowledge from playing so far - i started in performance so i had some research to do both inside and outside the game, but my masterimage is currently a representation of what i believe (minus the additions of aurora)

[fair lotus]

I also noticed the beginning of the concert showed us rising from water, to land, to the sky much like the murals in the cave if prophecies (idk if someone has already said this sorry)

[tulip salmon]

plz no lol we just need a good documentary video over 30-40 mins

[uncut pond]

Nah, we should sacrifice MatPat to TGC for lore like how the Hollow Knight fandom tried to sacrifice Mossbag to Cherry Team

[high escarp]

if i had a good mic and the time i would try /hj

[flint schooner]

Someone ought to quote this properly, but it was previously stated that crabs are crabs because of what crabs do in a situation of conflict (ie being inside a bucket):

they pull each other down even if working together they could overcome difficulties

So in the world of sky I guess crabs could be that which refused to fight for the light and can’t stand it, that’s why they always seek to destroy it!

[buoyant mortar]

I AGREE

[icy ember]

My goal is to be a worker at tgc as a concept artist so hopefully I can learn all the lore and maybe drop hints within the allowed limits

[obsidian sapphire]

Also in the animation trailer project the ancestors look just like us

[hushed steeple]

I love the end point too. Redemption has always been my favorite, and yet utterly missing part of sky’s story.

[ocean grove]

Just double checking, but its generally agreed that office isn't cannon right?

[icy ember]

Yes. The secret areas are not canon

[high escarp]

very true! they seem to be somewhat reacting to the influence of the sky-people. in the trailer for the animation their hard outer shells range from natural looking rocks to ones that look broken off a carved piece!

[gloomy kettle]

I have a theory that I don't think ppl will like it in here but I'm gonna say it .

Like we have no idea how the darkness arrived... what if the darkness is just a punishment??? Like the God bird thingy send the light creatures for spirits and ancestors to use them in a good way but the spirits and ancestors started to hurt them and catch them so the God bird thingy or the gods of sky ( maybe there are more gods???) And they made darkness as a punishment for spirits and ancestors but making the darkness wasn't a good idea and even made them to lose their powers and the stars fell

[round parrot]

No I don't think we should.
Reasons as to why we don't think Matpat should make a lore theory by Alasdair (pls don't attack Matpat nor Alasdair btw, putting this just in case)
#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[uncut pond]

Skids were confirmed in a dev stream to be a new species/subspecies of Ancestors

[high escarp]

i think it was confirmed darkness always existed, but it could very well be true more of it was sent as some punishment/balance to the ancestors greed

[hushed steeple]

A mat pat theory would be something lame like…..”how much does a sky kid actually weigh in real life?!!?”

[obsidian sapphire]

Ok but what if the darkness is evolutionary tho 👁️

[buoyant mortar]

wait that's actually really fair reasoning
nvm don't get matpat i change my mind we can do it ourselves 💪

[obsidian sapphire]

Tell the devs to say that to my face /lighthearted

[icy ember]

in Tom zhaos concept art they are considered the descendant race of the ancestors created by Megabird. So similar but not the same

[high escarp]

it would be something we already know, like "darkness isnt REALLY evil?!!?! "

[hushed steeple]

Confirmed in dev q&a dark creatures are corrupted light creatures…..but I guess getting possessed could be an adaptation?

[uneven crow]

Why do we get told to go and give light around the world (I don't remember the quote) if the darkness is intentional though

[tulip salmon]

i remember someone theory about why the crab attack us: Krill detect target by sound and light, skykid is pretty noisy, so to protect itself from krill it literally need us to shut up💀

[obsidian sapphire]

Ok so like…. If the crabs turn dark due to ancestors use of environmental resources it could be an evolutionary adaption for survival

[uncut pond]

So far, darkness seems to be representative of pollution and a consequence of the abuse of technology, it was unleashed due to the usage of power diamonds and exploitation of light creatures

[surreal echo]

finally the lore chat gets to talk about the concert

[hushed steeple]

Maybe not crabs. But absolutely krill

The q&a was about krill

[high escarp]

likely because the light was drained from the world or reduced in size because of the ancestors using it for themselves

[gloomy kettle]

AND THEN WHAT IF THE DARK KING THAT GOT REMOVED FROM THE GAME AND THE WE SAW HIM IN THE LAST QUEST OF SHATTERING WAS A FALLEN GOD ???

[languid trail]

What if krill were meant to be mechanically enhanced light creatures? Because they make helicopter-ry noises (or maybe the clicks are something like echolocation?)

[ocean grove]

Thats definitely possible, its interesting to look at dark creatures because its very ambiguous as to how they came about, and with a big main god like megan you kinda have to wonder what role she played, and what role the ancestors played. With how convoluted the general timeline of the ancestors is its kinda unclear what corruption events influenced what or how they relate at times. This is definitely an interesting theory and it would explain some stuff

[soft ledge]

Example of:

Light Creatures

• Butterflies
• Birds
• Jellyfish
• Manta
• That big giant whale in the Jellyfish cave
• Krills (Now corrupted due to Light Harvesting)

Dark Creatures:

• Crabs
• Ancestors (ALIVE ANCESTORS, NOT ANCESTOR SPIRITS)

Hybrid:

• Sky Kids (Used to be Ancestor's children who died in the war, but was revived by Aurora in "Through the Eyes of a Child" song and brought them into the orbit.

[hushed steeple]

And the most ridiculous thing is that shattering was completely reused assets and THERES A REDACTED THEY COULD HAVE USED TO BE JUST LIKE THE CONCEPT ART

[round parrot]

Bird posting

[icy ember]

I LOVE THIS. YOU ARE A BEAUTIFUL HUMAN WITH BEAUTIFUL IDEAS. (at least I assume ur human. Correct me if I’m wrong)

[gloomy kettle]

Like.... the bird God is calling us??? To go and visit them ?? Like how we can met the elders in the light when we have finished a constellation?

[high escarp]

i know its part of the image i already shared but id like to specifically point out this part since we're talking about krills and the light/dark creatures :3

[uneven crow]

Yeah but if they were mad at the ancestors and spread darkness intentionally why did they tell us to fix everything

[ocean grove]

Didn't a person from tgc at some point say that resh was in the game but not where we'd expect or something? Or am i going crazy (equally possible)

[obsidian sapphire]

OOOOOO COOL

[warm aspen]

I like this. But in my opinion darkness in Sky is just a loss of their light. Like they're exhausted of the "energy"/life they have. My headcanon is that Krills and Dark crabs attack you because they seek light rather than just being hostile. This desire for light is seen as color red: e.g when a Krill sees you, a dark crab, red stones of shattering and Eden.

[hushed steeple]

Also it had horns in storyboard

[languid trail]

What if we are resh

[high escarp]

true! the red stones drain energy and dont destroy it: if you look closely you can see the specks of light being pulled to it

[midnight root]

This struck me as well. We basically reach Wasteland temple. We're literally in Valley coliseum, yet the only elder we see Isle elder.
They're missing from Eden gate too. Why only Isle elder?

[ocean grove]

Wait i totally forgot abt the prophecy murals

[ocean grove]

Yes ok that makes sense now ty

[hushed steeple]

“Not that hes not there, but that theres nothing left to save”

[round parrot]

Ah!

Aight lorechat be prepared for my idea reposting

[gloomy kettle]

We can say this as :

Dark creatures once was from light . But when darkness arrived, darkness effected them to seek for the light and destroy it ( kinda like the radiance in Hollow knight)

[icy ember]

Isle elder is sometimes referred to as the ferryman ancestor and lead ancestors and skids along to the world or sky. Rlly interest idea from the concept art that could explain why the isle elder is left behind

[soft ledge]

Because AURORA realized that Ancestors have feelings too. It was through the 4 seasonal spirits, she learned that Ancestors can feel Grief (Running Wayfarer), Fear of unknown (Mindful Miner), Love (Warrior of Love) and Compassion (Seed of Hope).

[ocean grove]

Wait if we are resh what would that imply

[hushed steeple]

Theres nothing left to save because all of him was used for skykids.

Except maybe eden hugger

[high escarp]

wait. oh my god you have a point

[round parrot]

Ok so, the TLP spirits theory
There has been this theory going around that the 6 TLP spirits represent each Elder
Slouching Soldier being Dusk, Gloating Narcissist being Sunset, Sneezing Geographer being Night (debatable), Star Collector being Day, Stretching Lamplighter being Rain
Now, the Beckoning ruler, it is too unfitting that it would be symbolic to Dawn, but rather, The Eden King.

I assumed that – perhaps there is a symbolism of Isle Elder – the area itself. I saw it as a symbolism of Isle – from the sand, to the cloud formations and where Starlight Desert was found – which is at the first floor (usually symbolising Isle because of all the sand and the constellation that appears during the cutscene before we get to the 2nd floor).

Now, time for another common theory
The purple light (which is usually associated with the mid/illusions) going out of control and heavily altering Vault in the process (which means that the Vault we see in the game isn't actually the real Vault, which is proven by the after-Elder cutscene before we journey to Eden, or go to a portal of homespace)

I'll just point out one think before we proceed with my thoughts. Vault's tint or color is dark blue/ navy blue (whatever you wanna call it).

So, here's my thought; if Vault is dark navy/ dark blue (for the majority of it), then why is Starlight Desert purple? (I think) It was the purple light’s influence.
Skybot pls no bonk
I'll make it clear that I believe that Isle would've had a huge contribution to the manifestation of the area, from the sand, and the cloud formations. (and the fact Starlight Desert is found at the first floor of Vault, which is also usually tied to Dawn)

[hushed steeple]

Also heres concept art very similar to eden hug but this time the other glowing figure is clearly stated to be prince

[rugged briar]

Reminds me how I just saw this mural bit again in the Vault Elder’s memories, where we go through all the Elders and this is final thing.

[round parrot]

I thought of something about the area where the Prince was last seen (and where the krill was seen)
I thought that was what Isle Elder thought they symbolize - nothing, only a fossil of what they once were
Now I know what you will ask: "But what about the krill? What does it have to do with Isle?"
Good question. Here's the funny thing (that I think):
This krill symbolism is different from the rest, I based the krill on the snake, (which is found in The Little Prince book), and searching up the symbolism of the snake it gives you this:
"In a story about mysteries, the snake is the only absolute. His poisonous bite and biblical allusion indicate that he represents the unavoidable phenomenon of death."

If I am not mistaken, the Prince (in the books) wanted the snake to bite him, in order to send him home.

Now. Back to the krill
Since the krill is connected to the snake - I believe that the krill symbolizes Isle's guilt and/or loneliness (and perhaps wishing to go back "home" which is presumably orbit)
Now, while I don't think Isle Elder is dead, but instead, inside of his own pocket dimension. With only the view of the Eden Mountain and a flock of birds for company.
Bonus part: Since the TLP spirits represent each elder (except Isle), it came to me that the realization of Narcissist threw me off

Ok so, just need to point out that there is a current ongoing headcanon about the Valley Elders used to be one but got sandwich'd

This led me to believe that Narcissist symbolizes either of two things:

1. Dawn sees them as the same person/elder/ancestor
2. Valley used to be one but got sandwich'd somewhere within Sky's history

[ocean grove]

Orb go chomp

[hushed steeple]

A King who desires a forbidden fruit.

[midnight root]

Don't know who Resh is. The Eden elder? I'm not very into using these names as tgc made it clear that not even they use those names anymore.

Anyways, if Eden elder it's somehow still "here" even though it's not, that "here" may be either:
a. The Eden diamond
b. Us, the skykids. The Prophecy cave walls depict this story

[warm aspen]

I'd like to see dark creatures as creatures who want to ascend but cannot. So up to this day they're the ones who seem to be roaming around the world of sky. It's because they cannot die, they cannot go through the cycle. That's why they seek light. Rather than destroy the light, it's more like they want/need it so badly

[rugged briar]

I guess if they were the elder representing Eden there would be nothing left

[hushed steeple]

I’ll try to mix up which name I use. Resh is just more personal and shorter. But yes both Alef and Resh refer to the Eden Prince and King respectively. Common theory is they are one person who changed names.

[round parrot]

Resh is.. to say the least debatable if they are still canon to the story

[high escarp]

this makes sense. if we go by my theory (the void is some sort of inner consciousness/mindscape) it could be the embracing of a darkness inside oneself rather than embracing the darkness of another who was trapped there - because we are part of the prince, and our purpose as shards of his being are to fix what he destroyed rather than to fix him

[hushed steeple]

I saw that part and, muah! Loved it.

[round parrot]

HELP I FORGOT THIS PART I AM SO SORRY LORECHAT
Another common theory/ assumption (I'll keep it short and brief)
We know Eden is a mountain, correct? Well, this common theory tells us that Vault was built and/or located at the side of Eden's mountain

Considering this, it would later also tell us that the path to Starlight Desert is very inaccurate (not that it was accurate in the first place) The purple light would've be able to alter space too.
(I bring this manifestation theory to have a solid base to my thought)
So, I thought. If the area of Starlight Desert was manifested (in, presumably another area that was influenced by the purple light, not in Vault itself, ofc), how did the spirits come to be?
Based from how the manifestation came to be (specifically the spirits), it would go two ways:

1. Perhaps the symbolic spirits were manifested during the time Starlight Desert (as a whole) manifested.
2. Spirits/ancestors would study the area, but due to the purple light’s influence, it altered the spirits/ancestors too, making them become what they became to be in certain areas.

[tulip salmon]

okay here is my rant:
The Dark King might be the first skykid ever fall down to the kingdom, before that the four prophets from Isle said that one will be their Emperor/King, being skykid they survive all four trials and become the king. But with stress being a ruler and feeling homesick, they order to build a Roma like castle, as a way to get back to the sky. But along the way came with technology advancement, a destructive one.
Civil war broke out, the kingdom got polluted and pretty kinda uninhabitable in some areas. The King order to make an huge Ark as last ditch effort to go back Orbit. But it exploded and kill everyone./ Or The King mental health got so low he exploded, and now forever trap himself inside Eden crystal

[gloomy kettle]

HERES COME ANOTHER THEORY THAT I HAVE ABOUT ABYSS:

I saw someone saying that spirits can't capture light .... but what if they CAN? I know most ppl say that in abyss they used to get light from the Mines but what I they were just crystals??? And those crystals can save light? Bc whenever we need to open a door we have to give light to those crystals. And this was their way to make a really safe place like the vault of knowledge. Wich will make sense bc eden is closer to the vault more till gw but gw is more effected.

[ocean grove]

Sry for lore-mothing, but whats the deal with the purple light? Like whats the evidence and reasoning for that cause it seems like a really cool idea

[pastel brook]

A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!

[tulip salmon]

i really join everyone chat frenzy for longer but im starting to get dizzy lol 💀

[icy ember]

Ikr

[sly ruin]

This is so silly, but after the AURORA concert and the Lore Dump for each song, especially in her finale song, is AURORA supposed to be the Sky Queen now? We’ve had our Prince turned King turned bad guy, but in the song she re-iterates that this is, “My (her) Queendom come.” I dunno. Maybe I am being silly and this isn’t the channel for this but yea

[hushed steeple]

This is the first I have been here in months.

[high escarp]

the concept art for eden even mentions atonement - and even if the story changed, theres no denying this could hint at something they MIGHT have kept - sky kids being fragments of the king who are sent back in pieces to atone for what the king did

[tulip salmon]

yass her majesty has arrived 🤌 ✨

[hushed steeple]

Or like the old old timeline says “blessed the land with a new race”

It didnt say the new race was recycled from the guy who messed it all up but I like it better that way.

[sly ruin]

Slay 😩

[high escarp]

god save the queen /j

[uncut pond]

The lyrics of the song are likely not to be taken at face value

[round parrot]

The purple light is a colored light that has the ability of illusion or mind magic as one might say

People say that the Vault (where the purple light is found) was HEAVILY altered by the purple light, which to some, they call it "purple light hallucinations"

the reason as to why people think this is because of the post-cutscene after we meet the Vault Elder, the gateway to Eden, it looks like a destroyed Vault, with seemingly now way in, so the people here on lorechat speculated that the purple light caused this illusion

Hope this helps lol

[warm aspen]

I think the song(s) shouldn't be considered (entirely) connected to the world of Sky. Afterall these songs aren't made for Sky but for irl music.

[gloomy kettle]

Saying this for new ppl here :

None of the stuff that we are saying here isn't 100% Canon and everyone has their own theory . You don't have to believe what you see here we are just saying what we think .

[lusty merlin]

id love to contribute more but im feeling a lil sleepy, but it's fun to see this chat so active, have fun with your theories! ^^

[languid trail]

Uhh what is this

[potent sedge]

hehe, i like how it says nadir like that one level in journey [i won't say what but it's the name of the OST for that place].

[sly ruin]

I figured it was from her albums, but I still think it would be so cute if she was our self-appointed ‘Sky queen’ because her giant form and beautiful outfit was just so lovely 🥹

[high escarp]

theyre moreso metaphorical or symbolic! since aurora is possibly some vessel or messenger of light, queendom is likely just a message of the light accepting and loving us

[hushed steeple]

Its prolly something more feelsie like “ohhh sky should be a nice fun place thats like a nice queendom that auroroa also likes for everyone”

[round parrot]

HI TAC

Hope you get some sleep

[feral radish]

His majesty

[hushed steeple]

Cut model. Careful. They don’t like this getting out.

[warm aspen]

It's a Pokemon

[lusty merlin]

scrapped content that really only exsisted in the pre global release if im right

[rugged briar]

If she were representing as a spirit for the world perhaps it just means you have a home in her world while you’re there. You’re welcome there. Sure she blew everyone up before but she swears it won’t happen again, just don’t mess it up like last time.

[shadow hare]

Resh or Alef concept work that didnt get implemented in game

[hushed steeple]

It has to be model swapped in. It was before season of rhythm, maybe the necklace meant something else beforehand.

[warm aspen]

I mean she is the QUEEN irl already, rooooight?! 😆

[potent sedge]

One reoccurring thing I've noticed in all TGC games [it's not at all a problem /gen] is that the main character[s] go through Nadir, or the darkest part of their lives, and get reborn in their most powerful state, Apotheosis, the highest/climax state of being. It was present in Flower, in fl0w [somewhat], Journey [of course] and in Sky.

[native terrace]

the skids after taking more than 2 flintstone gummies

[uncut pond]

Yea. Tho given the existence of a certain mural, it's very likely that Aurora existed in the ancestors' time, tho probably as more of a religious figure or maybe even a political activist given she seems to appreciate nature a lot

[round parrot]

That is a model that was dug up by someone who was illegitimately digging around the game's files, it was cut completely from the game as far as I can tell

[hushed steeple]

I just took it as them only being able to make one kind of game, oops

[ocean grove]

Yeah, its pretty clear that she's being worshipped by the spirits, and how you do the respect emote to her bubble, shes definitely a religious figure in some sense

[potent sedge]

honestly i don't find it a problem, at first i did think that but i've changed my mind since then

[rugged briar]

Pollution and abuse of power as well in those games, save for flow

[midnight root]

Just had an eureka moment. What if the single light we meet in the void of shattering after dying in Eden is the Eden elder?

1. It's skykid shaped
2. It's trapped in the void of shattering
3. Brings redemption as a way to compensate for the deeds it's done
4. It's not there anymore, but somehow it still exists, but not in the shape we expected it to
5. Metaphor for the transformative power of redemption

[hushed steeple]

Its kind of why I liked king so much. None of the other journeylikes have an antagonist.

But, neither does sky.

[digital mortar]

just a thought; what if the kid in runaway memory, was the prince/king? in a very disney style way by having a tragic parent death that started their journey towards corruption. That they were journeying to a new place together for refuge/settlement, but his mother died. He had to go on, and decided to get enough power to try and bring her back or to reunite with her in the stars?

[potent sedge]

Journey and Sky especially with the 'pollution/abuse of power' bit, those pipes in Wasteland and in Journey aren't lying XD

[uncut pond]

I've been trying to spread this theory for a while, it all makes perfect sense

[high escarp]

i feel like king being physically present in skys gameplay would take away from the message though, even if he is conceptually, really cool to think of LOL

[potent sedge]

For me idk why but I've always interpreted the King as an evil person who fell from grace, maybe that's just how I've interpreted the murals.

[rugged briar]

Sky does feel like a fleshed out Journey

[ocean grove]

Yeah i definitely think that kid has something to do with it and continuing on the we are resh theory, it might kinda be us reconciling with that part of ourselves, seeing our dark past and hugging it, then being able to move one after accepting all that and allowing you to ascend. Definitely nice and symbolic and would make alot of sense to me. I might add more to this later but i deff agree with u

[hushed steeple]

I like to think of the moment Kings lust for power backfired. His false body is broken, and he is small. Unable to do anything but realize what he caused. Repent for it, and rebirth.

[uncut pond]

I think having an actual antagonist would've been detrimental to the story and message not to mention kinda unnecessary since not all stories need one and there is something to be said about how much modern media has accustomed us to always expect there to be one

[high escarp]

it definitely feels like an icarus situation. flew too close to the sun

[round parrot]

I don't really think the King was the bad guy, rather a child who was put in a position unfit for them
Why do I say the king is a child? Good question

[rugged briar]

That is sorta how I saw it. You get lost into the void where the king’s soul remains in a childlike state, and while you’ve lost your light helping the others he gives his up to save you.

[solar bane]

Lore chat is piling up

[gloomy kettle]

The only thing shattering gave us: that the dark king is still Cannon

[round parrot]

Take a look at this
HELP THE IMAGE IS SO SMALL

[pine bane]

Hi lorechat
Well well well what we have here

[hushed steeple]

A lot of journeylikes feel very similar. Instead of King being a traditional antagonist, he would make the personal journey a little deeper. Redemption as opposed to just, life and death.

[potent sedge]

Here's how I've always interpreted it, King was the chosen one/prophecised child who did all the trials and stuff like that, sent to rule the kingdom below. But something happened to where he gained too much power, I personally think that he used the crystal, but it ended up backfiring REALLY badly, and i mean like causing the corruption/apocalypse that corrupted all of the creatures and all that stuff sort of badly. The Elders tried to stop the crystal from exploding but it blew them all backwards [in the final shattering memory].

[digital mortar]

i also see that eden crystal is often referred to as the king draining light FROM it. What if they used the crystal as a vessel to contain it instead? that they were trying to overload it to bring the ascend the castle back to the stars? That the pipes in wasteland were to bring the light towards the crystal, and eventually it was overfilled and exploded due to the pressure; taking the king's essence to stabilize itself. With the different realms all having storage compartments for light; pots, diamonds, the gold containers in the ships in wasteland and reef, that they were all being brought towards eden to be stockpiled. That the pollution was not the presence of darkness, but the absence of it. Like a similar mechanism to black holes. Ever expanding, ever consuming light. Not possessing a quality, but rather a lacking of that. Spreading the darkness in the liquid form down the pipes, into the ocean and filling the drained creatures of light changing them into darkness? That the eden crystal is so unstable after exploding from overcapacity, now it seeks light to stabilize itself. and the amount it needs to stabilise is far more than the word of sky posesses. So that's why it periodically erupts and searches for more light that way. But these eruptions bring memories as they are a piece of the crystal in sky, which houses a part of the kings essense and therefore his memories?

[hushed steeple]

Arise, omno, abzu, journey, sky. All very similar stories.

[ocean grove]

I feel like that fits alot, amd it kinda makes sense with prophecy. He clearly wasnt the greatest but the form looks like ours in the murals, that of a child, and being deemed "chosen" at a young age definitely wouldn't have the best effects on someone

[uncut pond]

Sky does have redemption already, the Elders are right there

[hushed steeple]

A liiiitttle. But they are kinda redeemed by time you meet them…..

And some are still a little snippy.

[potent sedge]

There's a FANTASTIC video [can't remember what it was called] on like how being the chosen one can screw up a character's psyche.

[ocean grove]

(cough cough teth cough cough)

Still best elder tho

[uncut pond]

And there's the spirits too, they help you in your journey and in a way redeem themselves by letting you witness their mistakes and learn from it

[potent sedge]

ik i think that the devs stated otherwise but i still believe that journey and sky have a connection XDDD

[high escarp]

i honestly sometimes wonder if the king is somehow a sky kid. the ancestors grew normally but sky kids dont exactly age - they need spells to alter their height but still appear small and childlike. maybe his blessing in the trials is what made him one, or perhaps he was made like that. it would be very interesting if he was basically the "prototype sky kid" meant to help his people, but ended up way in over his head and was corrupted by putting the importance of his own goals over the world

[digital mortar]

what if the runaway memory is his origin? that his mom was bringing him to the trials, but died along the way... and he had to take them on alone, and then decided to use his power to try and reunite with her in the stars?

[hushed steeple]

There is a kinda deserty looking planet in end credits

[ocean grove]

Its also possible that its just the people behind tgc wanted to flesh out the idea in a different way and it inspired sky, but isn't connected in universe

[potent sedge]

farewell lore chat, the lore scholar must sleep.

[pastel brook]

A quick advice from wise ol' Skybot: remember to take a break every once a while and take care of yourselves please, fellow Sky kids

[hushed steeple]

Same. Im going to bed. I catch y’all if something else new and noteworthy comes out…..or if they announce the art book.

[high escarp]

it would match interesting too with the theory that we are pieces of the king. like a tower of babel situation but dark - where a king tried too hard to reach the heavens and got struck down by his god and what was left of him was literally shattered and split apart, now their own disconnected beings

[ocean grove]

Hey, something to check out since elder discussion has been happening a little, the poems from that sky shop! Here are all of them if it helps:

Isle elder:
Dawn breaks with stars fallen,
Ferries stir to distant calls.
Shepherd us home back upwards,
A herald awakes to heed us all.
"Dear Children, no hope was lost,
We saw of your return to us."
The Elder opens up the skies,
And together again, we fly.

Prarie elder:
Fields of harvest, prairies of joy.
Farmer and fauna as one.
The Elder protects the creatures of light,
For darkened days to come.
Fly up, fly away,
For the Children of Light in need.
We shall recall our days of wonder,
And feel its air once more.

Forest elder:
Don’t weep, dear Elder, we heed your heart,
Tomorrow is a new day.
The scattered light, you broke in vain,
No longer falls apart.
“Dear Child, we awaited your return,
Our true savior of the Sky.”
Let love and compassion deeply in,
With you, we too will heal one by one.

Valley elder(s):
Triumph awaits for riders of the skies,
Pride swells to blaze a trail.
The Valley Elders guard glories tonight,
For this legendary prize, rise up, all hail.
Will you be the strongest?
The swiftest?
The boldest?
Or will you dwindle away?
The stars came out with the bated breath,
For whom will shine at the end of the day!

Wasteland elder:
Galloping in the wintery sea,
To the light, they fire a warm breeze.
Gifting guidance with unwavering love,
There, the courage needed comes from above.

(Couldn't find one for vault elder )

Nothing huge but some interesting snippits in there

[midnight root]

Yes, that would make sense. I think there's more to it though. One thing that we need to consider when trying to tie the pieces together is that there has to be some kind of chronology. Guess we don't have all the pieces of the puzzle available and when theorising we tend to "Frankenstein" some snippets that happened in different times. The lore is that vague that we don't even have a timeline outline.

But your theory pretty much nails it. Well done!

[warm aspen]

Forest poem: ... "awaited your RETURN". ?

[violet sable]

For people that still don't believe AURORA created sky: She says in her song "I made this queendom on my own"!

[rare walrus]

Hello lore chat
What theories are brewing because of the concert?

[violet sable]

She didn't say she had help and I doubt the queendom is just metaphorical

[high escarp]

its very interesting to think about. if the kings soul was shattered into all the sky kids we see now - it makes sense why in ascention all sky kids and light creatures look the same glowing beings, but ancestor spirits look different. the king may have indeed been the "first sky kid" of phrophecy who was made to lead his people back to the stars, but a tower of babel happened, he got broken up, and now as less powerful, separate beings, we do what he was supposed to, and its why we see ourselves in the memories of the elders and the shattering void. we are pieces of the king, and contain his memory

[digital mortar]

I think the aurora season brings in a lot of lore that fits pieces into different spots of the chronological timeline, like runaway at the very very start, forest when they were mining light (likely same time as abyss mining in treasure reef), citadel when training the trapped mantas (trapped during concert memory scene) for the upcoming battle, and battlefield the same time as the battlefield memory, where they fight the creatures of darkness and deities that are punishing them for their greed and need for hoarding light in the crystal in eden

[violet sable]

I think since the king was scrapped early in development it's irrelevant to the lore now

[ocean grove]

Still interesting tho, and it helps with the story of the ancestors i think

[ocean grove]

Also found it interesting that the prairie elder is said as protecting the creatures, which makes more sense as to the reason he has all the jars full of butterflies, cause hes protecting them from harm

[rare walrus]

Yall know the spirit that surrounded us in the first song?
Like one of them felt familiar (prairie elder)

[warm aspen]

There is a kingdom tho. The murals says it as well. It's just the concepts and the initial development lore might be the one that's scrapped.

[digital mortar]

i think the battlefield scene happened shortly after the eden crystal shattered, or just before it shattered; as that seemed to be a mass extinction event for everyone. everyone who died in battlefield was ascended by aurora, and all those who died in eden were restored by us with the winged light before we too die in eden and await our light to be restored by another sky kid before being reborn

[digital mortar]

almost like he's trying to hide them so people don't know they're still existing and available to be harvested for light?

[violet sable]

I heard a theory that the closer the realm is to Eden, the more affected by the diamond explosions they are

[rain pond]

about the king discussion

it has always been my belief that the King was just trying to make a very large battery that siphoned a part of Megabird's power, but someone's calculations went wrong and it siphoned wayyy too much, before proceeding to explode

[high escarp]

plus the existence of an island specifically as a sanctuary implies light creatures were actively being endangered for a long time and there was an effort to protect the remaining light (hence the protection of the vault and eden, where most of it was)

[ocean grove]

That could totally be it! Definitely gives more context to one of the most kind and simple seeming elders, makes you feel for him as he now anticipates the darkness

(Also interesting that it uses the term farmer, what if they onced farmed butterflys and now the live in harmony)

[digital mortar]

what if not all the elders agreed with the greed for harvesting creatures of their light.. also that poem from the forest elder seems like they were trying to harvest light but couldn't. especially with how competitive the valley elders were, what if the rain in forest is from the elder crying in shame from "breaking the scattered light in vain"

[warm aspen]

It might be. But those jars were transported in Hidden forest tho so why 😭

[ocean grove]

Poor light creatures can't seem to catch a break

[high escarp]

ANYWAYS its been fun theorizing with everyone! im heading to bed!

[warm aspen]

Prairie elder is the farmer, Forest elder is the manufacturer 👀

[round parrot]

Well, one of the Elders that didn't agree on harvesting creatures for light is Isle Elder (or at least what we think so)

[digital mortar]

I've been running along the theory similar, that the king was using the crystal to stockpile light, in order to use it as a vessel to ascend the castle back into the stars to return them all, but pulled an icarus and ended up exploding the crystal (like aerosol exploding under pressure)

[midnight sonnet]

I have a lore theory not much a theory but something that I personally believe

[warm aspen]

Rain in forest is because there was a large fire in there i think. There is a mural that shows the forest had the orange light and made a fire. But also they used another color to make rain

[ocean grove]

Maybe it was isle and thats why hes excluded from Eden statues om gate? He definitely has a connection with the birds as he shepherded them and the ancestors along, maybe he was upset that once they were shepherded by him other elders began abusing them and he cut ties?

[midnight sonnet]

About AURORA and her role in the sky story

[pastel brook]

You're a part of the Isle of Dawn where the light comes from the dark 🕯️

[rare walrus]

A little tiny theory but imagine if the king or the child we see in this season may had heard those songs and wrote down what it said?

Or maybe these song represent the regions before everyone died?

[midnight sonnet]

I believe that Aurora is the mother of the sky kids and that would make her a separate part of the megabird

[violet sable]

The songs tell stories about each realm except Prairie

[rare walrus]

It is interesting because why would prairie be left out?

[violet sable]

Prairie was protected with Sanctuary, so the darkness never crept into prairie

[midnight sonnet]

Like how Aphrodite has her war goddess self and Love Goddess self

[midnight root]

Yep, those quests and the concert pretty much confirms the limited info we already had.

Spirits arrive in Sky queendom --> A skykid comes along with one of them --> He completes the trials --> Becomes the Eden elder --> Sky Civilization develops --> Technology takes control --> Corruption takes root --> Creatures of light imprisoned and used for technology, realms get destroyed by pollution --> Further decline takes shape --> Eden diamond erupts --> Creatures of light become corrupted --> Spirits fight the krills, crabs, dark water, dark plants, dark shards, etc. --> Eden elder gets trapped into the void of shattering --> Time passes --> Source of light (Megabird/Aurora) calls for skykids to save the world --> Present??

[rare walrus]

I do wonder the origin of the eden crystal

[digital mortar]

I remember the devs said the elder for eden was "beyond saving/nothing left to save" and that makes me wonder if the king was trying to ascnend and transform himself from a sky kid type sub species into the ancestor/elder one; but the amount of light needed for that was too much, and in his greed to stockpile it all he introduced a corruption similar to that of black holes, poisoning the land (and acting as an addictive substance to those that drank it; like in TLP). that when the crystal shattered he had managed to become the elder of eden, but at a severe price of the entire kingdom, and at the cost of his own imprisonment

[midnight sonnet]

We love Aurora so much

[warm aspen]

Could it be a collection of the rocks they were mining. Or just a large darkstone

[ocean grove]

Someone else also brought that up before as it possibly being skids being resh, and that meaning that nothing is left of the full him to save, its on an individual level, but thats also a really interesting idea

[midnight sonnet]

I see Aurora as the primordial mother of the sky kid specie and what isn’t more fitting and powerful

[pastel brook]

A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!

[violet sable]

In sky, as a general rule: selfishness breeds darkness, and empathy breeds light

[digital mortar]

who's resh? I keep seeing mention of him but never knew who/what it is

[rare walrus]

The last memory in shattering shows the birth of eden.
The elders being blown back

[ocean grove]

It feels too important to just be an extra chonky dark stone tho, and the red coloring also suggestes its something more, since the darkstones have consistently blue coloring and symbolism (correct me if im wrong)

[violet sable]

It seems to me that the spirits are not native to sky as shown by landing on boats

[ocean grove]

Eden elder, also possibly the chosen one or the prince, or all three
Resh i dont think is a confimed name, but it feels more personal and makes it easier as a kinda blanket term for all the different forms he seems to take

[midnight sonnet]

This game has such a good message about greed , tgc pricing things: 🫦

[violet sable]

I think it's easy to forget that they are a business with a goal of making money, but the amount of effort they put into the game shows that they care about their community

[midnight sonnet]

True I’m just joking around

[warm aspen]

I said this earlier but I think the red language in game is the desire for more light. Like Krill looking at you. Or the red shards that "absorbs" the energy on you. So the red Darkstone may probably be a broken one, it shattered and spew too much energy, now red, it seeks more

[digital mortar]

tbh considering all the things in this game, and how it's fully playable as f2p, i think the pricing is quite fair. it was one of my main raving factors about it that I never felt I had to pay money to enjoy it. I only started spending money this season as it's limited edition, and aurora never tours in my area so i consider the price of a concert ticket