lore-discussion-spoilers

[rigid mural]

oh my god lightseeker moth footage,,, im gonna cry thats the cutest thing ever

[eternal totem]

CW was such a pain to relive but I NEEDED the crab call

[rigid mural]

you're helping me because im trying to cosplay a lightseeker moth just so vets get a laugh out of me

[compact shale]

Dusk: I christen thee... Bumbling Boatswain!
Bumbling Boatswain: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[eternal totem]

In true Sky fashion a "vet" swept me off my feet & helped me get it

[rigid mural]

AWWW THAT'S SO CUTE
my tactic was just to put on as much lightseeker cosmetics on as possible since my TLP moth self did the same to avoid default look but... i am looking

[eternal totem]

I think the masks were the most accessible to non-AP moths, so it was any base-game cosmetics + LS mask. Only ones I got were Pioneer & #Doublefivesweep

[compact shale]

Same but with "unique cosmetics" in general

My first non moth look was Shivering Trailblazer pants, yellow cape, Nodding Muralist mask, and spinning mentor Hair

Not the worst but yea

[spring python]

Wait abyss crew were supposed to be pirates?

[eternal totem]

Yeeesss?

[rigid mural]

thank you for your input, here's my plan B

[spring python]

I just assumed they lived in the sea for no reason

[eternal totem]

They're looting an abounded research facility

[rigid mural]

They're scavengers ! I think it was on the season intro but it was said so early in the season; they even call what you gather for them "ressources" iirc !

[eternal totem]

Perfect. Beautiful. Stunning

[spring python]

Oh that’s the materials they were looking for? I assumed “resources” meant building ones because assembly was burned in my brain

[rigid mural]

You bring back power diamonds so I assume they need energy !

[white junco]

what are they doing, eating them?

[frigid tinsel]

They’re officially “scavengers” but let’s be honest, they are pirates to some capacity

[eternal totem]

Play hopscotch

[rigid mural]

nah, i do

[white junco]

this is why they need to collect more in the first place

[frigid tinsel]

Maybe to power their boat? Could’ve washed upon Treasure Reef as a last resort. Or to suck the light out of them for nutrients? Idk they’re spirits now so while we are supposed to ascend them, I’d imagine some spirits need convincing and one of them getting eaten by a dark leviathan is enough convincing.

[sharp lichen]

PROPHECY ISNT THAT OLD

[rigid mural]

wait dark, season of Lightseekers is gonna be 3 on the 23rd

[frigid tinsel]

Oh that’s my birthday

[tepid veldt]

baudshaw, next season is prophecy moths’ 10th.

[sharp lichen]

You were born on Lightseekers

[white junco]

i can't believe alasdair's about to turn 3

[frigid tinsel]

Makes the fact I’m writing lightseeker fics fitting

[sharp lichen]

10th year???? NO PLEASE

[tepid veldt]

10 season
if were talking about being old my 2 year anni is in less than a month

[white junco]

welcome back baud the year is 2032

[eternal totem]

Yes my 3rd anniversary is soon, early Oct ()

[untold notch]

my second is in February

[white junco]

my third's in may

[spring python]

Just turned 2

[rigid mural]

since we're talking about age, you know how we consider some seasons vet ? At what point are you a vet, because at that rate, anyone with about a year of experience on the game is a vet but compared to the game's life span, that's still young

[sharp lichen]

I say a Vet is someone who’s experienced enough to teach a moth through the entire game.

Although that’s less lore and more meta

[rigid mural]

i feel like older vets 2019 and 2020 moths are vets, but 2021 and 2022 are experienced players but not vets

[spring python]

When you lose all hope and joy

[white junco]

we're gonna get to a point where we'll either need a new name for those who were here for the first seasons or a new name for experienced players from newer seasons bc sky doesn't seem to be going anywhere and i don't think 3-4 seasons=vet will work on year 5 of sky

[untold notch]

a vitamin

[rigid mural]

YEAH THATS WHAT I MEANT SPADE

[eternal totem]

It's subjective, some players from 2019 may not be as experienced as a player from 2021; some moths catch on fast
There was the term butterfly for 2019/2018 vets but nothing ever caught on

[rigid mural]

I feel like it would be easier to refer to years in the future, for example dark is a 2019 vet while spade is a 2020 vet

[white junco]

but sanc sweep

[eternal totem]

Fossil is also a term for 2019/2020 vets

[white junco]

there's also an invisible line where you stop calling players "[season] moth" and start calling them "[season] vet" and idk how that's gonna shift

[rigid mural]

i feel like you could chop sky's lifespan in half, the older ones are vets and younger ones are not. so in 2023 maybe people will call switch moths vets

[spring python]

Peepaws sounds great tbh

[white junco]

ok tbh for me that line is just. any season before my first season + my first season

[rigid mural]

oh no
2023 is in 4 months

[untold notch]

why is it like that. stop

[eternal totem]

I elect "[season name]'s little meow meow"

[white junco]

logically prophecy was a while ago but what is a prophecy vet those folks r moths

[pastel brook]

A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!

[rigid mural]

spade you're from the season right before that

[white junco]

at least i'm not french and from the french season

[untold notch]

that would be tragic

[white junco]

it's like french squared

[rigid mural]

why are you guys so mean to me :(

[spring python]

The Bad ending is putting -Er on the end of the season’s name

I’m a sanctuarer 🤪

[eternal totem]

Oui oui ze baguette merci goku

[untold notch]

I'm a dreamer let's gooo

[rigid mural]

dark

[eternal totem]

I'm a Lighseekerer

[spring python]

You were so close

[sharp lichen]

It’s Prophecer

[untold notch]

no I think dark is right

[rigid mural]

im right behind you. your point ?

[white junco]

we should have more seasons where you can just refer to the spirits by their season name i can't just say "oh this weeks ts is a dreams" now can i

[frigid tinsel]

A TLPer or a Little Princer

[eternal totem]

Eifell tower

[sharp lichen]

What makes a vet in the first place? What about a person who barely plays once a week for 3 years, or a person who’s 100% the game within 1 year?

[eternal totem]

I did say it's subjective

[white junco]

a person who 100% the game within a year is called "insane"

[raw crypt]

i very much am 🥰

[keen shore]

I KNOW RIGHT. WHAT DO YOU MEAN PROPHECY WASNT YESTERDAY

[frigid tinsel]

A vet is someone who’s been playing the game for a while. Now define “while”

[eternal totem]

Hey, I did

[white junco]

if someone calls you old in prairie social space you're a vet congrats

[sharp lichen]

Here’s my ideas on the demonyms for the seasonal spirits
Rhythm: Troupers
Enchantment: Travelers
Sanctuary: Visitors
Prophecy: Seers/Prophets
Dreams: Townies/ Dreamers
Assembly: Scouts
Flight: Crew
Prince: Adults/Oldies/Boomers
Abyss: Scavengers
Performance: Performers

[spring python]

Crew…

[keen shore]

You overestimate my courage to go to prairie social space in the first place

[eternal totem]

Prince: French

[sharp lichen]

How can I be a moth what

[white junco]

itty

[lyric isle]

I don’t call myself a veteran nor like to apply it to people bc it has a lot of negative connotations of expectation and stereotypes to me
and I don’t want to carry on a player hierarchy I don’t think should be honoured for what the game intends to be in the first place

just as context. I call everyone [season] moths

[spring python]

Thats why everything in that season is black, cause it au chocolat

[sharp lichen]

If we want to improve the connotations and stereotypes of veterans, then we should modify the term and use it to be less demeaning/stereotypical.

I just call knowledgeable players “veterans” and players who have still yet to know everything “moths”

[eternal totem]

THE CENSOR HAHAHA

[lyric isle]

have seen butterfly as a proposed alternative and I find that way cuter and more thematic

[white junco]

i call myself a veteran bc i have the wasteland dark plants cycle memorized and i never attempted to learn it in the first place which means i've lost a couple marbles

[lyric isle]

I just call myself an Enchantment moth and oldie

[spring python]

Problem is that Vet is already a term in gaming culture so it’s kinda hard to beat even tho I also hate it like, acting like I fought in a war or something 💀

[white junco]

oh yea idrc what people call me that much

[rigid mural]

sky is a battlefield and we're waging a war against bugs and glitches

[eternal totem]

I still think about "handsome Indian prince"

[spring python]

Dark can show you the world

[lyric isle]

not sure how to describe what vibe my skykid gives off but this is definitely not stereotypical ‘veteran’ which is what I want to avoid in the first place

also yes, assembly qg is standing there. menacingly.

[rigid mural]

the only things i want to be called is a menace, an affront to god and a pretty boy

[eternal totem]

They know what they did.

[sharp lichen]

What would a stereotypical “veteran” be? Most of the people I light are veterans and they have a diverse range of clothes

[white junco]

are we dodging a certain word here /gen

[rigid mural]

not me

[eternal totem]

Nope

[lyric isle]

not gonna get too into it but I don’t like how what some people think of is the fashion of a certain subculture - yes Spade. tbh I think it’s for the best we can’t say

[white junco]

ok i get that but i've also met new players who dress like that so it's a little confusing to use "vet" as a synonym

[sharp lichen]

I know that subculture, but it’s quite specific; not all veterans dress like that

[lyric isle]

but I don’t like people thinking how and promoting how that’s the ‘cool thing’ because to me the diversity of outfits you can make Is the cool thing

prob going too far off track from lore

[rigid mural]

I think we all already agree on that tbh 👍

[lyric isle]

what I don’t like is said new players (or anyone of any playtime) calling themselves ‘veterans’ Because they look like that, rather than veteran being a term of experience. but that’s offtopic let’s come up with something relevant to here

[white junco]

do u think there's a difference between the blue crystals on those skykids in eden and the ones that grow on us when extinguished (besides one having textures)

[lyric isle]

good point…immediately remembered those when it got implemented

[white junco]

i really wish we saw something like the crystals overwhelming us when we run out of light or smthn bc i think that would happen

[lyric isle]

wondering how and why they form

[white junco]

exposed light that is vulnerable to darkness maybe?

if light is too bright, darkness can't take hold without being dissolved. but if a light is fading or weak, darkness might be able to take root

[spring python]

Don’t crabs also attack instead of flip if you’re below a certain wing point?

[slate saffron]

Picture this: you're a moth, a small fuzzy creature who you have no right being, & just below you sits a roaring fire with bountiful embers that spews forth from it's base, enchanting your tiny little eyes with wonderful flickers of light.

Now, as you are a moth, you have a choice to make: As are your instincts, you can approach the fire, whose warmth & light, although very comfortable from afar, will most assuredly leave you little more than a chared husk of chitin on the ground when up close; Or, as you ought to do, you can leave behind the fire & it's warmth which will most certainly a harsh transition , as the cool night sky & the predators who stalk it always tend typically to make it so, but one whose end result will be one where you survive.

Now, you must be quick about this, as if you wait too long you risk falling prey to the creatures lurking just beyond the boundaries of the fire, who will soon take notice of your exposed position. Even worse, you're unsure of how long you can keep yourself from plummeting into the Hearth before you.

What do you choose? The warmth of the fire, or the freedom beyond?

[eternal totem]

A question: why

[slate saffron]

In this analogy I am the person with a bug swatter who will be attempting to swat you in exactly 5 minutes.

[round parrot]

Well good morning lore chat

[eternal totem]

"What do you choose? The warmth of fire, or the freedom beyond?" Goes hard though

[slate saffron]

My bug swatter goes harder

[untold notch]

I ain't reading all that happy for u or sorry that happened

[lyric isle]

yesss I like this

[slate saffron]

July 18th, 2012, 3:45 pm, 900 San Marcelino St., Ermita, Manila 100.

48 missing, none found

I know what you did.

[untold notch]

aside from the fact that I'm not sure that address is even in the USA I was like a child or something

[slate saffron]

So were they. That didn't stop you.

[eternal totem]

My reaction to that information

[untold notch]

y'know I wasn't expecting to be accused of a crime when I logged onto discord today

[white junco]

no one ever is

[spring python]

You say that on a server dedicated to a game about children setting fire to corpses so they can emote

[untold notch]

Well When You Put It Like That It Sounds Bad

[frigid tinsel]

Arson is not a crime when it’s for a good cause

[slate saffron]

The mutilation/desecration of a corpse is though

[untold notch]

if I talk it can be used against me in court

[frigid tinsel]

Are we mutilating corpses if the bodies are rekindled with light? Hard to call something alive a corpse.

[untold notch]

I think strega is still accusing me of commiting crimes

[snow cosmos]

cremation
that is all, goodnight lorechat

[tepid veldt]

well
goodnight book salem

[keen shore]

Goodnight other Salem

[slate saffron]

Goodnight Salem 2

[slate saffron]

Well, since they're currently dead before rekindling I'd imagine yes if you consider necromancy mutilation of a corpse that is

[keen shore]

We don’t get access to the corpses (sadly), we burn away the darkness shell around the spirits themselves

[slate saffron]

So..... ghost necromancy?

[keen shore]

The only human thing I could compare it to is an exorcism so I vote no,

[frigid tinsel]

I don't think the spirits are dead, just frozen.

[potent sedge]

So wait, was the prince considered one of the elders/ [pretend that's a question mark my shift keys are broke]

[keen shore]

Yes probably, they’re in the vault elder cutscene realm lineup

[slate saffron]

Yeah! (Maybe). It depends on If you consider them the same as the king however

[potent sedge]

i considered them as king's son or maybe the actual king himself idk, my stance on it flickers a lot

[normal relic]

My headcanon is that all the spirits are made of fruit jelly.

[untold notch]

what flavor

[round parrot]

Found the amount of Memory Cubes on the second floor, it's ||493||, plus the memory cube in the memory

[normal relic]

Fruit flavor of course

[rigid mural]

Myst you madlad

[slate saffron]

Myst you would have made a fantastic computer from before the profession was entirely automated & the machine that replaced it stole the name

[compact shale]

The edible kind or the soap kind

[normal relic]

Edible of course. That's why crab friends and krills keep wanting a piece of us. They're hungry!

[round parrot]

Alright, lore question:

How did the Prince get to Eden? The only way we can get to Eden is either by meeting Vault Elder and the Eden portal at home (which I doubt the Prince used) ||Also how did he pass the flying rocks and krills?????||

[round parrot]

Tbh, there was a very common pattern of 8+8+8+7+6+2 in each memory cube bookshelf (each number is equal to the amount of memory cubes per shelf)

[atomic lava]

does anyone have any sky lore implications for me? things that arent spoken about in the game but are very obvious yk ! like how there either are more animals, or were more animals, that we havent seen (implied because of animal masks)

[unreal prawn]

Wait, there's a lore? I thought this game was all about expensive cosmetics?

[atomic lava]

[torn eagle]

Welcome to the club

[lyric isle]

yeah, there’s much much more to the game, should you want to look into it! it’s as much as you want it to be

well that’s my philosophy at least

[atomic lava]

i dont know if its lore related or not but i dont want to risk putting it in general chat-
does anyone know what the long blue fish in treasure reef is called? if it has a name

[rigid mural]

It's been called an eel iirc, not much said about it besides that it seems to leave trails of wax.

[atomic lava]

oh ok ty

[outer hare]

Bobbit

[compact shale]

Bob-bit-not

[outer hare]

HEY NOTHING AGAINST ME THE BOBBIT JUST COME AND CONSUME ALRIGHT and bob-bit

[simple flicker]

I vote Harold as the eel's name

[misty warren]

I've heard ab "elder king" alot have they ever showed up in game?

[spring python]

Probably one of the entities we have the least info about but they are rly relevant

[outer hare]

harold the eel and atlas the turtle

[round parrot]

Next we name every Jellyfish under the ice rink in Valley /j

[outer hare]

jennifer, jack, jess, jeremiah -

[compact shale]

Jicholas, Jam, Jindy...

[floral grove]

Jason Jerulo

[sharp lichen]

Welcome to the menace!

[sharp lichen]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

Credit to Alasdair!

[tepid veldt]

Jindro, John, Joy, Jamie…

[keen copper]

Jeckle, Jimbo, jeremy

[outer hare]

jackie, jace , jerome

[keen copper]

Joshua, Jay, jasmine

[tepid veldt]

that’s 2 jacks, i wonder how they- oh nvm

[keen copper]

Jayden, jessica, julia

[round parrot]

I'm just gonna let you guys count how many Jellyfishes there are under the ice rink 🚶‍♀️

[tepid veldt]

oh boy

[round parrot]

Goodluck with the Jellyfish shining their jelly head things on you

[atomic lava]

sorry for everyone naming the eel but i gave it a name already /t

[lyric isle]

what does the t mean? haven’t seen that one before

[round parrot]

Headcanon: Spirit barriers are canon (to me), but only to an extent
Example: The barrier to seasonal areas, to Sunny Forest, the barrier to Eden, etc. are not canon to me
But the barrier that keeps the mantas and the megalodon (in Abyss) is canon to me

[atomic lava]

teasing !!

[lyric isle]

ah ok! thank you

[frigid tinsel]

Myst, are you okay? /hj

[lyric isle]

DID YOU COUNT THEM ALL

[atomic lava]

i just realized that the name i gave the eel is the username of one of the tgc staff-

[rigid mural]

That's their fursona

[atomic lava]

LALSDLFKSKFSD

[round parrot]

Not that hard tbh (yes I did count them all)

[simple flicker]

Nooooo hahahah

[rigid mural]

They got 70-90 staff members, and are in a creative field (videogames). Statistically there's strong chance at least one of them has a fursona.

[snow cosmos]

Ktjn's fursona is a krill confirmed /j

[rigid mural]

Ktjn and Ash are the most likely to have fursonas imo.

[slate saffron]

Keeping up the tradition of mod slander I see-

[snow cosmos]

slander makes it sounds like a bad thing

[compact shale]

Scalesona?

[tepid veldt]

i was going to ask why were speculating which staff members have fursonas
but i think thats just a lorechat thing

[compact shale]

And you would be right

[rigid mural]

"mod slander"

1. in this house we only punch up, we're talking about devs
2. you're assuming fursonas aren't epic in indulging the human need to represent the self as a funny animal
   /nsrs

[atomic lava]

it was tethys btw, if anyone was wondering

[snow cosmos]

love that for them

[rigid mural]

Tethys W

[eternal totem]

I'm 90% sure one of the artists is a Edgeworth/Wright shipper

[earnest briar]

Yesss the homieromantic lawyers are amazing

[untold notch]

as they should be

[slate saffron]

Apologies.

Dev disparage-ment, then

[keen shore]

hey any dev if you’re reading this, post fursona I want to see them

[hot spoke]

Hello lore chat. I have few questions. Are the sky kids stars? And the sky kids statues in Eden are the fallen stars from the intro? And we bring them back to orbit? And when little prince says that all stars are our frieds does he mean other sky kids?

[round parrot]

And when little prince says that all stars are our frieds does he mean other sky kids?

I kind of like this idea! * yoinks headcanon * /j

Technically, all Skykids are stars. As for the Skykids in Eden, I honestly dont think so, (there is a possibility though!), it might represent the ancestors!

[frigid tinsel]

Yes, skykids are fallen stars, newborn moths and reborn skids fall to the ground as stars. The Elders are also said to be fallen stars. Ancestors, debatable.

Those skykid statues in Eden are petrified skykids. Some think they’re a different type of skykid, which I doubt cos after dying we too petrify. We give them winged light to ascend. Likely another skid gives our own petrified forms to ascend as well.

All the stars will be your friends is a quote from the book The Little Prince, which Season of the Little Prince is based off of. Though in the context of Sky, the quote does seem apt regarding that skykids are fallen stars.

[keen shore]

If elders are also fallen stars, wonder if they work like skykids… like petrifying, being recharged by flame [ok this one is pretty obviously yes but I wanted to include it anyways], having a shell, being able to be reborn…

[keen copper]

So I did a quick count in my head and I counted how many season areas each place has
Isle: 1
Prarie: 1
Forest: 3 (technically)
Valley: 2
Wasteland: 2
Vault: 1

[keen shore]

FOREST NUMBER ONE #forestsweep

[keen copper]

Well it's only cause the way you access flight is in forest, but unlock other entrances to it

[keen shore]

I know we kinda ascend them ourselves, but every time I imagine the flight spirits havinf to be taken to Rain’s temple to ascend like we do basegame spirits I lose my mind that would be so funny to watch

[eternal totem]

I still think how that used to be A Thing before global launch

[keen shore]

I would kill to be a fly on the wall watching it

[rigid mural]

Rain is powerful but so is Flight guide

[keen shore]

I think they would just glare at each other angrily the entire process, and the visual is making me wheeze

[snow cosmos]

flight guide: alright, the wind paths are safe, ascension time!
skykid: yeah, so we're just gonna go to the forest temple and-
flight guide: on second thought, i'll just stick around a while longer

[keen shore]

skykid watching like “why are they trying to kill each other with their minds”

[snow cosmos]

skykid: so i'm sensing some tension-
rain and flight guide simultaneously: it's. fine.

[rigid mural]

I feel like Flight guide would do something to establish dominance and challenge the authority (they're punk)

[keen shore]

they start summoning birds in rains pocket dimension

[snow cosmos]

passive-aggressively shedding feathers everywhere

[rigid mural]

Flight guide walks toward the manta cages and starts freeing them without breaking eye contact

[keen shore]

“you know I was going to do that anyways right”

[snow cosmos]

flight guide squints suspiciously and a bird starts nesting in rain's hair

[keen shore]

What if instead of summoning birds flight guide hides them in their arms and just immediately releases them all once they enter the pocket dimension

[rigid mural]

I want to give flight guide a crowbar

[rigid mural]

Season of Scattering

[keen shore]

manta woos emanate from rains forge for weeks but the culprits are never discovered

just realized that the other flight spirits would also be there, watching this with glee in their eyes

[snow cosmos]

flight guide goes to smash some machinery and chimesmith is just like "pls those are perfectly reusable parts"

[rigid mural]

Chimesmith dismantles refineries, Flight Guide dismantles the oligarchy

[snow cosmos]

light whisperer commentating from the mantas' pov

[keen shore]

why can’t flight guide do both, or does eadh flight spirit have like, an assigned job

[rigid mural]

Light Whisperer is the street medic but only for the light creatures

[snow cosmos]

plot twist: this whole ascension thing was just a ruse so flight crew could get into the heart of the operation and take it down from the inside

soft headcanon that Light Whisperer is sky universe's equivalent of the Lorax

[rigid mural]

NAUR NOT THE ONCELER

[snow cosmos]

i didn't say anything about the Onceler that was all you /lh

[frigid tinsel]

Rain would be the Onceler

[keen shore]

I’m going to kill you with my mind

[eternal totem]

Rubs hands together

[frigid tinsel]

I’m not wrong tho

[snow cosmos]

omg just like flight guide

i actually lowkey vibe with this analogy tho- from what i remember of the story the Onceler started everything but as more people got involved and it got out of hand they lost control of the operation
vibes nicely with my "Rain didn't understand the effects of what was happening until they felt it was too late to stop it" headcanon

[frigid tinsel]

The Onceler did start it, giving the Lorax hollow promises that they wouldn’t go too far but once money got involved, never discouraged the ramping up of production until there was nothing left. That’s when they realized they messed up.

[snow cosmos]

and by the time we meet the Onceler at the beginning of the story they're isolated, depressed, and full of regret, but they entrust the last truffula seed to the protagonist in the hopes that the next generation can save what they destroyed

it's been a long time since i read the Lorax and i never actually saw the movie so i'm going off foggy memory

[frigid tinsel]

The Lorax moved the animals away when their home was becoming increasingly unhabitable due to the pollution and destruction of environment, kinda like how the Wind Paths and the Sanctuary Islands were a haven for light creatures. However in Sky, the light creatures were hunted down as well — if they moved, they’d be pursued.

[snow cosmos]

"I am the Light Whisperer, I speak for the creatures"

[untold notch]

"the creatures say mroo"

[glass loom]

Uhm ive always been wondering about the story behind the whole game and its very vague so can anyone share some of there ideas for how the story really is like? Im just bored and want to know about your theories and so on- ya know cuz.. im bored

[keen copper]

About what

[rigid mural]

(for legal reasons they just ate pizza and this is ketchup)

[frigid tinsel]

sure

[rigid mural]

This would be a silly yet hilarious thing to get punished for.

[frigid tinsel]

wait, who puts ketchup on pizza?

[rigid mural]

They really did eat pizza tho

[keen shore]

This implies they just grabbed the pizza in their fists to get their hands covered in it like that which is also on brand and killing me. Also you know about the red tomato sauce on pizza right. The ketchup isn’t necessary

[untold notch]

it could just be the pizza sauce yeah

[rigid mural]

Crab Whisperer canonically cooks without a recipe.

[lyric isle]

how are we lore gang

[rigid mural]

Counting the number of shards on the questgiver

[lyric isle]

was going to post a (misspelt) ‘hello chat’ image but idk if that’s ok to do in case disruptive

[rigid mural]

You're fine, we're being goofy while waiting for the last quest.

[lyric isle]

anyway

[lyric isle]

last quest…when……

[frigid tinsel]

tomorrow, technically, but red shards only appear on weekends so the new memory will be accessible friday

[lyric isle]

hooray! excited

[rigid mural]

It's actually gonna be available Friday either way, countdown is higher than 24h

[lyric isle]

yeah it rounds down

considering the season is coming to an end I wanna take a break again. will get started on my fic, I think…

[keen shore]

so excited for the last quest because it’s usually like… grand finale I’m so pumped to see what it is!!§!!!

[rigid mural]

§!!!

[keen shore]

Shut

I’m gonna put you in the diamond

[raw crypt]

i hope for the last shattering quest the eden diamond blows up and skys closed forever

[rigid mural]

King fans when the diamond explodes and there's no Eden elder in it

[raw crypt]

i think ive cracked this joke before but ill do it again

[sharp lichen]

King fans when they don’t exist in my perfect fantasy of the Sky world (I don’t like King fans)

[keen copper]

There's a bunch of stories that exist

[lyric isle]

my perfect Sky fantasy is that the spirits get the recognition they deserve by the game and community as a whole, but at least I don’t Absolutely Demand it
it’s a wish, not obligation

[sharp lichen]

Well, we do have to fulfill our wishes

[lyric isle]

^ thus why I like encouraging it, but not forcing it

and why I make stuff

[potent sedge]

[eternal totem]

I drew this then immediately passed out, here it is

[raw crypt]

THANK YOU

[frigid tinsel]

Dark I would reblog the hell out of this if this was on tumblr

[keen shore]

Rapidly advancing towards your location

[eternal totem]

Good luck walking through the dead sea

[eternal totem]

Counting every blade of grass in-game!

[lyric isle]

I mean
someone counted the number of memory cubes in Vault’s second floor a bit ago

[eternal totem]

Counting every gust of wind in-game!

[lyric isle]

here

[frigid tinsel]

Myst also counted the memory vubes on the first floor

[eternal totem]

Myst forgot the ones at the Ark, fake memory cube counting fan

[snow cosmos]

i'm still thinking about Ozymandias (specifically the Bryan Cranston reading) as it relates to the King and the Wasteland and i'm being overcome by the itch to create a character to be the traveler from an antique land

[keen copper]

Antique? What do you mean?

[snow cosmos]

the first line of the poem is "I met a traveler from an antique land". the traveler goes on to describe a ruined statue of Ozymandias (one of the Ramseses, i believe)

[worn latch]

hello good afternoon, I would like you to help me to be able to enter my sky account, yesterday I updated the phone and today when I try to enter the account it tells me that there were problems that if it continues so I should contact the servers

[keen shore]

Unfortunately, this isn’t the right channel for this — #questions-and-help should be able to help you! I hope it gets solved :]

[worn latch]

Thanks

[keen copper]

I'm still confused

[keen shore]

You can look up the poem if you want!

[tepid veldt]

help im writing lore for my ocs and…you guessed it, its so honking long i dont even know how it gets so long i just spit words on a page

[lyric isle]

reminds me of a comic I saw of it, but Hollow Knight themed

[slim plume]

Currently writing a ship fic but instead of fictional characters it's mythological goddesses and I feel your pain, I'm doing the "5 times someone wanted something and the one time they got it" prompt and I'm only barely near finished the first time and it's already over 1K words

[tepid veldt]

im editing a story where there’s a lot of dialogue and i wanted to shrink that down (since i really like the idea of skykids mostly interacting through expression) and i feel like i’ve written way more than i did the first time suppose thats good

[compact shale]

May I dm you, idyll?

[wanton pulsar]

The Hollow Men by T.S. Elliot reminds me so much of the downfall, the decay we see in the barren Wasteland after the glorious sights in Valley... Ngl I really like the poem

[wanton pulsar]

Thoughts on dark stone influence on people?
We see all those dark stone technologies being used and I couldn't help but wonder if there's a long-term side effect to it... But like, the more the power in it was utilized (charged by light), the side effects would appear more rapidly...

[round parrot]

Those don't count
I only said I will be counting memory cubes in Vault, not the entire game ||Maybe I will count them (but I won't add them to the amount of Vault cubes)||

[tepid veldt]

sorry for the late response but yeah! go ahead

[spring python]

Chevronless behavior /lh

[earnest briar]

Ughhhh, chibis in Vault are so mean. I just wanted to open the door to get to the candle cake and they all ignored me.

Speaking of chibis do you guys think the mask is canon?

[sharp lichen]

Why can’t it be canon? The way I see it, all cosmetics in Sky are canon

[earnest briar]

I mean like in terms of it shrinking us.

[wanton pulsar]

I mean.. potions are canon right? Chibi mask is just a temporary chibi spell that you can activate and deactivate (aka putting it on and off)

does potion work on spirits

[round parrot]

How do potions work in terms of the "Light Manipulation" thing?

[tepid veldt]

ok im with the whole “cosmetics are made out of light hence no shadow” thing
the umbrella doesnt cast a shadow implying that its made out of light
but apart from game mechanics, why does it not disintegrate in rain, when our skykid loses light?

i should be doing homework. worthy way to spend my time

[wanton pulsar]

maybe... technology?

[spring python]

I think of light as a magic type and not strictly light as we know it irl

[round parrot]

I honestly think its an inconsistency

[eternal totem]

It is a technical limitation, but you could say its light is stronger, or the rain is not harmful enough to damage the umbrella itself

[spring python]

There was no budget for the shadows

[wanton pulsar]

i'd like to make the prophecy guide tiny
so I can steal his mask

[eternal totem]

I don't think you'd survive either way

[spring python]

Can’t survive the prophecy sweep

[eternal totem]

RAAAAAAAAAAH

[round parrot]

Just putting this here

Sorry but the song To The King (Hollow Knight song) just reminds me of the Sky Kingdom's fall I can't-

[violet sundial]

I personally think yes b/c hidenseek pioneer went from adult to child at somepoint and I consider that a Canon effect of the mask on them

[tepid veldt]

well now i have to listen to it again ill be back 5 mins later crying /lh

[violet sundial]

Hk and sky history are pretty similar in a way

[frigid tinsel]

I think it’s sustained by our own light. You’ll notice that when extinguished, all our cosmetics go out and you can’t use instruments. Idk if you’re able to place props but that would fall under the same reason

[flint bolt]

I like how this man thinks.

[copper saffron]

perhaps the umbrella concentrates your light into a form that can block the rain

[slate saffron]

I woke up today angry at Baudshaw
It was the first thought that entered my mind
I do not know why

I will now go find out why

[untold notch]

you seem to have a lot of anger within you

[true dew]

We got em guys, the lore of sky, pack your cases

[copper saffron]

darn ok

[round parrot]

welp, guess to abandon Lorechat since I am packed with lore now /s

[celest violet]

Not sure about this, but was the early concept art for Sky done in the early 2000s? Cause I think like a year ago someone from TGC stated that but I can’t remember.

[frigid tinsel]

I heard that the earliest concept art was done in 2013 but according to PurpleAlmonds’s page it resembled Journey

[round parrot]

How does lore chat see corrupted/krill kids? Just need lore chat's perspective on them

Also just counted the amount of memory cubes in Ark, its ||52||

Also what is with this pink fire? Is it meant to be tinted or is the fire coming from somewhere else?

[rigid mural]

Snoozing Carpenter, the spirit you see setting these tents up in their memory and in the Enchantment cutscene, uses purple light to do so ! It makes sense the fire would be purple to reflect that

[outer hare]

bobbit has emerged, consuming the chat

[slate saffron]

I'm deeply terrified

[outer hare]

i should really but a warning TW : dont search up what this means thank you

[rigid mural]

Wooly manta's natural predator lol

[mystic vault]

If Moths would go on a re-entry from space into a planet's atmosphere will they survive the Plasma stage?

[round parrot]

Speaking of Wooly Mantas, how do they fly? Do they have wings? Or are they just flying fluffballs?

[frigid tinsel]

Yea

[scenic siren]

Trails on grass in front of realm gates, I think many kid going to Wasteland changed their mind and go Valley
And Isle gate has that round patch because of moths spinning at place on grass

From experience, many time when I lead and going to Wasteland, my friends said "No Wasteland is a waste of time", then we just run Valley or Forest

[compact shale]

They get carried by the wind or other mantas.

Got neither? They roll on the ground like tumbleweeds.

[rigid mural]

I like to think this is also linked to the kingdom's history, since the song that plays in the broken temple area of the Wasteland is titled "two heroes" and some old Days of Sky tweets referred to the areas together as the "Golden Valley" :]

Maybe the Wasteland was the other half of the city the Valley is ? It looks industrial and has a lot of marine themes, maybe it's one of those industrial ports that lives off trades more than tourism, hence all the pipes optimising the area for refineries (proximity to water means they get both a source for cooling systems & a place to dump waste, hence the sludge nowadays).

[rigid mural]

wooly mantas are just regular mantas under that fluff, they can fly but not very well, think of sheep with too much wool having difficulty walking around (the wooly mantas are fine when left unsheared though)
as Fruitzie mentionned, they do prefer to glide around using the winds like dandelion seeds

[rigid mural]

Just wanna put this idea in your head, got inspired by a show I watched a while ago (I will not say the name here because it has some dark and really disturbing moments) but you know how memories seem kind of sacred in sky ? The show I'm talking about also has themes about memories, especially the loss of them.

On the first episodes there's a planet whose lower altitudes are covered by a huge cloud of some kind of gas that makes you forget why you went through it if you inhale it, more if you stay longer. On the later episodes, there's a plant that also feeds on memories. Perhaps the spirits in Sky got stranded in the kingdom the same way ?

Like, there's a theory running around that darkness conceals, shields but ultimately slowly eats away at memories, and we know its coming spelled doom for that civilisation (likely by their own hands). It would make sense for the Eden eruption to spread so much darkness that the ancestors who survived the initial shockwaves, rock rains and all to still be prey to darkness who could have slowly eroded their memories and forgetting themselves, hence why it is important to gather them to save them (and it's very sweet that in return, they gift us clothes, hairstyles and masks that they remembered were part of their identity).

It would also make sense on deeper meanings, since forgetting the past often leads to repeat its mistakes in the future, perhaps there could also be something about the loss of a part of if not all of oneself when facing great tragedies; trauma.

[round parrot]

I kinda wanna pop in to add another idea but I do not know how to explain it

Distorted or false memories? Sky from this perspective is kind of making me think that the Mandela Effect (or any other effect that messes with the memory) isn't uncommon

[rigid mural]

Mandela Effect is when a memory that didn't really happen is shared, right ? I can totally see that kind of stuff fitting in Sky, especially if it's corrupted memories. We already see dark plants growing in some (Rejecting Voyager, Piggyback Lightseeker, Slumbering Shipwright and more) so I'm sure memories can get messed up that way !

[outer hare]

Wooly mantas are practically just dandelions with fleef and a body , bobbit ^^

[sharp lichen]

HUH?

[sharp lichen]

Yeah, they seem to be immune to fire/plasma. They don’t get hurt by fire at all in-game

[slate saffron]

Why 👁️ 👄 👁️

[sharp lichen]

Uh are you mad because I dislike the king and you like it??

[outer hare]

did you find out why ?

[lyric isle]

can you tell me the name of the show in DMs? very curious

[rigid mural]

No, sorry.

[lyric isle]

thank you for letting me know!

[cursive saddle]

Idk where to type this, did anyone get that notification "last day to preorder your Sky art book" ?? I clicked and nothing it just opened Sky and i can't find anything on Google

[round parrot]

I think that's supposed to be in #questions-and-help

[flint bolt]

I'm going to counter that question with another question.

How do the Mantas' breathe outside of water?

[eternal totem]

Cloud water

[slate saffron]

It had something to do with goldfish I think-

[nimble ingot]

Ask Boon, or any sentient Sky Frog.

[round parrot]

Two guesses

1. The mantas that live underwater are seperate from the ones who fly (like land snakes and water snakes)
2. They are probably like frogs, able to breathe in water (for a short period of time iirc) and be able to breathe above water

[nimble ingot]

In season of Sanctuary, we see mantas rise from the waters and fly in the sky.
This echoes back to an old concept art of what may be the supposed life cycle of Mantas, or perhaps what Mantas do in general with living in the air and in the water.

[compact shale]

So are mantas here... amphibians? Airphibians? What do we even call that?

[nimble ingot]

Perhaps?
Or potentially what the laws of physics of this fantasy setting would allow.

The devs have mentioned in an interview why most of the creatures are based on marine life, is because of their graceful movement.
That and/or, the fact that flying marine creatures does firmly establish a dream like, or spiritual atmosphere that the game touches on frequently.

[jolly phoenix]

i always thought mantas were like sea turtles
like they can breath outside of water but inside water they rely on a different method
because in the treasure reef, the light flora scattered around completely removes our oxygen bar, so it might have to do with that, as well? the mantas in the tubes have an oxygen source too when we complete the quest and go into the opened tube

[nimble ingot]

That is an interesting theory and one that may have a point given most mantas would be found near some form of water.
In places such as Dawn and Day, one can assume it is the ocean water that mantas would be near. In Forest, the rivers and rain may be enough to sustain them. In Valley, despite the frigid temperatures, mantas might make do with the clouds, snow and ice (albeit may have trouble with thawing the water first). While the Wastes may be heavily polluted, the few places we find mantas are again near water (be that dark water or normal water).
Lastly, Vault and Eden may seemingly not have plenty of water (with the exception to the Little Prince's area having a small lagoon area), the mantas in Vault are ghost mantas (dev confirmed nickname), or possibly able to travel through harsh realm such as Eden to reach Orbit.

[nimble ingot]

In case anyone asks for proof, as well as future proofing the source for ghost mantas, here it is.
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
from Ktjn

[jolly phoenix]

mmhm
i mention it because we do have a sea turtle in Sanctuary, and if i remember correctly(ill have to look)
the bones in Wasteland's boneyard are a mixture of whale and turtle bones, so i would assume some, but not all light-based animals rely on differen oxygen methods

the birds don't need to live in water and neither do butterflies either, i think? we don't see them in water

[flint bolt]

The second answer to my question is the answer to your first question.

[nimble ingot]

You are correct.
The Whurtle (whale turtle hybrid) was/is the creature that the massive skeleton remains would have been in the Graveyard, If I recall correctly.

Despite the variety of marine creatures in the game, there may be others that either the lore or the game may confirm at a later point. Other than in concept art and masks.
That said, other creatures may include lions, bats, spiders, fireflies, deer, other species of bird, and more (provided the masks from Days of Fortune may be included with the zodiac).

[simple flicker]

This just makes me want a season of creatures from the past living in one huge ecosystem together.

[compact shale]

Season of Extinct Creatures when

play with possessed skeletons /hj

[jolly phoenix]

in all honesty i always thought from a technical perspective that other light creatures werent added to save the lag from processing code(and partially not enough time)

but from a more... lore based perspective, i thought the other creatures that we see masks based off of werent Entirely light like the other creatures we see
entirely light as in... doesn't recharge your light with a call, can't generate their Own light unlike othe creatures
so when eden exploded, maybe that has something to do with it? because the Ancestors couldn't generate their own light either

its just an idea though

[compact shale]

good points

edit: I STILL WANT TO PLAY WITH POSSESSED ANIMAL SKELETONS, TRUST ME IT'S A WHOLESOME IDEA IF YOU THINK HARD ENOUGH

[tepid veldt]

graveyard becomes haunted

[simple flicker]

YOU JEST BUT THAT SOUNDS AMAZING

[nimble ingot]

Found the source.
It may not have had the hybrid name, however the skull was still based on Whales and Turtles. Hence the Whurtle name.
#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[nimble ingot]

All of Sky is haunted with the amount of Ancestors Spirits.

[compact shale]

wholesomely haunted :D

[nimble ingot]

Casper would be right at home among these spirits, lol

[flint bolt]

The out of bounds areas are The Sky Backrooms.

Thoughts?

[simple flicker]

Home becomes haunted twice every month lmao we really need a summoning circle of that little platform.

[simple flicker]

The fact that there's also floating entities in most cases also contributes to this. Like the elder bodies and the whale under the underground caves

[nimble ingot]

The Forgotten Realms, as the clouds conceal them.

[flint bolt]

They also have that strange feeling to them. Like the tops of the trees in forest.

[slate saffron]

Season of Halloween

[keen copper]

So how does a manta turn into a wooly manta?

[compact shale]

Genetic engineering, we take genes from Dismiss's cape and try to incorporate them into mantas until we get it

[keen copper]

I thought they came around from just being well-fed mantas, and the wool is just excess light growing on them

Though I also just realized something

Why is there an oxygen meter when we don't have mouths. Or lungs as far as we know

[keen shore]

The water slowly putting out our inner flame, probably

[compact shale]

yep

though we almost had a lore war about that back then

[keen copper]

But then why wouldn't it take away from the wings?

[frigid tinsel]

It does

[keen copper]

Yeah but that's when it runs out

[frigid tinsel]

When the meter runs out, you start losing winged light, then your flame runs out.

[keen shore]

It’s like the WL is protecting our flame or something so it goes out first

[copper saffron]

i love how the chat goes from manta biology to genetically engineering a wooly manta

[frigid tinsel]

Yea like physiological differences between in air versus submerged in water

[keen shore]

Horrible OC concept: skykid who’s afraid of ghosts

[keen copper]

I actually have my own theory of how they come around

[copper saffron]

and i know baby mantas exist but what if wooly mantas are like, super newborn ones, like before they can even fly.

[keen copper]

Just need to draw it

Anatomy of a manta in my hc

Any thoughts?

[copper saffron]

what do mantas eat?

[keen copper]

Light marshmallows

Duh

[flint bolt]

They eat SkyKids

[round parrot]

probably water

[sudden reef]

Quick question what exactly is the mega bird? I've heard the name a few times but never really what it is

[keen copper]

It's the galaxy that sky takes place in

[round parrot]

Is it technically an entity where all light came from?

[sharp lichen]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[gleaming fog]

If megabird flies, and we fall from the sky from megabird, I think that means every sky kid is DA BOMB ☄️

[copper saffron]

Megabird in concepts is depicted as an orb with light trailing out from it. Perhaps the light we fly towards in orbit is that orb, megabird's 'heart' perhaps

[slim plume]

Could also make the argument that that orb is Megabird itself in actuality, and that its entire being is just made up of other ascended light creatures and doesn't actually belong to it, but that leans heavily more onto interpretation and headcanon than solid theory so

[lyric isle]

I really really like that idea. wanting to add on with something from an official source but not sure how to post it without it being eaten

I transcribed the Little Prince videos once

[frigid tinsel]

I think the orb we see while ascending is the Light in it of itself, where all ascended beings of light are, whereas Megabird is the consciousness of the Light

[keen shore]

Oooooo maybe in a Google doc? Then we could repost the link whenever!

And on the topic of Megabird headcanons, I like to believe part of Them also flows through the world in rivers of light - taking the shape of birds (we see this one the most), underground formations adjacent to ley lines, & lines of fish, etc. Kinda like veins in a massive worldwide circulatory system. If you touch them you can connect to a watered down version of the Light. The Eden beam is where these rivers ascend to their source in order to flow down again, like the water cycle

& That since the Eden Diamond is a massive interruption of this cycle, like a blockage right in its Most prominent part, where no light can get around; since light always tries to merge with itself if it can [this leans more into headcanon territory] that some bits of Megabird in these rivers overflowed in the diamond, & were so desperate to escape they shattered it from the inside out,

Hence, the disaster

[snow cosmos]

my personal Megabird headcanon is that they're not a singular physical entity but rather the collective consciousness of the galaxy and all the Light within it

[keen shore]

YEAH!! That seems to be the common interpretation in this channel which I promptly stole because I love it so much!!

[frigid tinsel]

same, like I headcanon that Megabird doesn't necessarily have a physical form – though the bird-like supercluster form we see while descending is a form They take – but in Orbit Megabird can borrow the facsimile of other beings of Light to talk and interact with others

[keen shore]

Fun fact, the idea I mentioned above came to me when we were talking about if you could put the entirety of Megabird in a manta manifestation and then use it to charge darkstone as the ultimate prank

[snow cosmos]

If you touch them you can connect to a watered down version of the Light

i really really like this, it makes me think of the kind of spiritual meditation that some people feel can put them in tune with the universe and receive messages from it. i wonder if there's a particular subset of Ancestor mystics who dedicated themselves to finding a way to commune with Megabird by tuning into the Light around them

[keen shore]

two types of people

[frigid tinsel]

king behavior

[keen shore]

Okay but you have to admit it would be really really funny

[dull seal]

I know that there was a war in Sky's past but I don't know who the war was against?

[frigid tinsel]

I don't believe Megabird can have 1-to-1 conversations to beings in the world – Their ability to interact with the world below Them is incredibly limited – though I like to think that tuning into sunlight can one hear Megabird speaking

[keen shore]

Judging by the size of the weapons, probably dark creatures! [ie krill] Althogh, it could be between ancestors. We don’t know for sure yet but hopefully will have more ifnromation soon :] — these are just educated guesses!

[snow cosmos]

i definitely agree, i think Megabird's awareness is far too vast to be comprehended by an individual even if Megabird could interact with the world below/around/within Them. but in the same way that some humans believe they can tap into the universal whatever-ness and glean deeper understanding because of it, i wonder if there were Ancestors who tried to reach that same kind of spiritual awareness of Megabird

[keen shore]

I’m so glad you mentioned this because i can dive straight into another of my headcanons I’ve been using for an excuse to talk about! I like to imagine the prophets do this but with like, tilted more towards augury because of isle’s heavy bird themes and also the fact that since birds are super important in this world I refuse to believe that augury isn’t a thing to some degree, whether it’s just superstition or not.

like, tuning into the inner song the birds have and sorting through it to find out the path the light took last cycle so you can figure out what happens in the future of this one (yes this builds on two of my previous headcanons no I am not sorry.)

Anyway I love this headcanon a lot because I love prophecy, I love the little world building details this headcanon adds, I love methods of telling the future that aren’t just dreams, etc I just think it’s sweet :} especially since Dawn themselves has a heavy bird association and it makes sense for the prophets to be connected to that

[frigid tinsel]

when I say Megabird can't interact with the world below, I mean it's a more physical distance issue. the Light is in space, Megabird is the Light's consciousnesses, only aware of as much as the beings within the Light know. while Megabird could manipulate the light within the Light, They seem only able to affect the world below by sending things down to it – see Elders and skykids. Megabird Themself cannot touch the world; They only have jurisdiction over light within Themself and sends some light down in hopes that light will ascend back and inform Them

[snow cosmos]

valid!! i agree with the end result, Megabird not being able to directly interact, but in my mind it's more because everything we experience exists within what would be Megabird's physical form if They had one - They can influence large-scale changes such as causing stars to fall/sending Elders and skykids to the planet, but They can't directly effect what happens on the planet, or on any of the planets that make up the galaxy, any more than we can directly control our own cells

[keen shore]

I really like this interpretation! Megabird as a massive organism with only limited influence over the world… it’s definitely a pivot away from the common perception of gods as controlling everuthing; & it goes a long way to explain how a disaster of this scale first occurred without being stopped

[snow cosmos]

the body metaphor is actually surprisingly apt now that i think about it
Megabird being the organism, the stars and planets being its organs and cells
Darkness could be a bacterial infection like e. coli, where in certain amounts it's fine and even helpful but can become problematic when the balance is thrown off
and skykids could be like antibodies/immune cells, being sent out to the source of an infection to fix whatever's going on there

[keen shore]

I feel like given how light seeks itself out and tries to merge with itself when possible an organism is a great metaphor… like… it’s just a kind of fractal of life, all the way downwards

The huge pattern of Megabird but then as you zoom in you see the elder creatures and then mantas and people and then all the way down to light bacteria… all within the same massive, constantly repeating pattern.

A fractal of light.

[snow cosmos]

a thousand times yes i love this thought experiment so much
like when you zoom out far enough on the rl universe you see galaxy clusters starting to form webs that look an awful lot like neurons

[keen shore]

YES YES I MEAN EXACTLY SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AN INFINITE LOOP OF LIFE

[snow cosmos]

YOU GET ME

[earnest briar]

Hey guys I noticed something interesting about the part of the Bridge in Forest with the candles you light to summon the jellyfish to get to the temple.

[keen shore]

fractals are super cool and i love the concept of seeing all life as one…
[my brain auto filled while I was distracted by enzans message akdjsiakw]

[earnest briar]

It has the shape and lines for a darkstone crystal above the candles on either side and on the floor, like it used to be there was another pedestal to light there, but it and the crystals were removed.

[snow cosmos]

we aren't just in the universe, we are the universe, and in the same breath the universe is and is within us

[keen shore]

Oooooo, like a bridge that connected the last pedestal & ran up to the temple maybe? Do you have a picture?

[earnest briar]

Sure! Just gimme a few because I have to transfer the picture from my Switch to my phone.

[keen shore]

It makes a lot of sense for a darkstone pedestal to light to be there, i mean, the bridge itself doesn’t make a lot of sense without the jellyfish part because otherwise it’d just come up against the cliff side and stop. It makes sense for there to be stairs as well or an elevator platform (like in vault) or something

[earnest briar]

Do you guys want a picture of the floor with the candles lit, or unlit? Okay then I'll do both.

[frigid tinsel]

and the universe said I love you

and the universe said you have played the game well

and the universe said everything you need is within you

and the universe said you are stronger than you know

and the universe said you are the daylight

and the universe said you are the night

and the universe said the darkness you fight is within you

and the universe said the light you seek is within you

and the universe said you are not alone

and the universe said you are not separate from every other thing

and the universe said you are the universe tasting itself, talking to itself, reading its own code

and the universe said I love you because you are love

[keen shore]

the jellyfish as like… a temporary patch over an irrecoverable part of the bridge after the last section fell, implying ancestors still went through/to the forest temple after it had collapsed 👀

[earnest briar]

Ooooh, what if someone proficient in Jelly-speak asked them to act as a bridge after the bridge collapsed in case anyone who survived the cataclysm could be able reach the temple and leave/escape Forest?

[keen shore]

That, or the bells on top of the bridge sections called them!

[earnest briar]

oh yeahh, cause Light Creatures are attuned to music/music can be used to call Light Creatures.

here u go y’all, sorry about the candle meters in the top left, I don’t like claiming them unless I have to haha.

hold on I'll try to send the other two again.

[keen shore]

YEAH I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN those look like the darkstone notches on the forest doors! where they slide up

[snow cosmos]

yeah those grooves are the same as the other platforms!

[earnest briar]

I am a proud Prince moth btw, been playing since Switch Day 1. Didn’t have an AP but I did get myself the Sword Pants, and worked hard for it too.

[keen shore]

There’s a non zero chance that it’s just like, to light and start the bridge from that side instead of the other, but still that leaves the question of “where is the bridge supposed to go” wide open

[keen shore]

There are too many tlp moths, I think we should retcon some of you guys to be assembly or flight moths. One of these days you will form an army or something and I need to prevent that

[frigid tinsel]

There’s a reason one of my split personas is technically an Assembly moth

[compact shale]

The reason there's so many is because TLP has his charisma maxed out

[keen shore]

Really don’t want the tlp moths to band together and recreate the nation of France

[earnest briar]

We’ll build a bridge to Asteroid B-612 and bring back the Prince

[frigid tinsel]

Salem daunted by the moth gang

[keen shore]

glad you’re accepting your moth status

[slim plume]

Don't worry, I chose German as the language I'd study in school for a reason

[rigid mural]

Oh fun fact you can find fractal patterns in indian art, some rangolis for example (drawn on doorsteps to ward off evil spirits and welcome good ones in), I think it has something to do with reincarnations in cycles (samsarah iirc don't take my word for anything tho) and the universe as a whole being an entity.

Hmmm there's also this saying I think I remember from my alchemy books about microcosmos and macrocosmos reflecting eachother, "as above, so below" = patterns found at minuscule scales (neurons for example) can be found on giant scales (galaxy clusters).

[rigid mural]

suspiciously british behavior

[keen shore]

Vela if jokingly hating France was British behavior you would be British too

[rigid mural]

I'm so much worse than that 💙

[slim plume]

Yall (Britain and France) have been fighting for the past millennia give it up 🙄 /J

[rigid mural]

There's a country even worse than Italy.

Yeah sure, let's say I'm a wild beast from Oregon.

[frigid tinsel]

Quebec, Canada

[rigid mural]

? Those don't exist

Took pics in the Vault, looks like it wasn't swept away by a storm but ripped off as if it was pulled up by the beam of light; perhaps it's what happened to the true summit of the Vault ?

[frigid tinsel]

“We are all one with the universe, we are the universe experiencing itself, loving itself in its entirety.”

Vela: I don’t give a crap about Quebec

[snow cosmos]

french behavior tbh

[keen shore]

I am one with the universe, except for Britain. Some crimes can never be forgiven

[rigid mural]

I don't care about countries I just wanna be gay and play Sky.

[sharp lichen]

They’re a year old, they’re not moths anymore ha

[keen shore]

maybe when they get a ts from their moth season they could graduate

[keen shore]

Or maybe even caved in after the explosion… Vault is right there, as soon as the diamond overflowed all the energy would’ve backflowed right into it. There’s no way it would survive that kind of impact

[frigid tinsel]

“We are all one with the Light.” The light within us unites us, linking us together in a fundamental way. While we may be individuals, separated by our material existence, we have the ability to communicate and cooperate, the light undergirding our communities and strengthening our love for one another. It is not that we are forced to bond, but rather light, by its nature, finds strength the more light there is, nor do our individual selves do not matter, for our experiences as our own persons builds our identities and perspectives, determining how our minds work, envisioning the universe in different ways. And so us beings of light find ourselves banding together, warmed by our diversity exalting our environments and intertwining each other in comraderie and love. As part of it, we are pieces of the universe. We piece together to form a whole. The light within and the light external pull us together so we are in league in our power, to shepherd away the darkness when it threatens, to love us as a whole even when we are different.

[sharp lichen]

Tses are irrelevant in my eyes. Why would someone in the afterlife WILLINGLY go to the real world hmmmm

[keen shore]

They got muted in the Megabird Discord Server

But like, actually, there are lots of reasons they would. Checking on how things are going in the real world (sapling quests) and on us (granny wax event), just chilling sometimes (days of bloom), celebrating festivals with us (days of fortune & love), and helping us learn how to do things (days of sunlight teaching us to help with the baby jellyfish)

[rigid mural]

i like to think the spirits sometimes just wanna vibe in the sunlight with the funny flying kids (days of nature)

[keen shore]

YEAH ALSO THAT like, they’re allowed to just chill, they don’t need to submit a filled out form to the Light asking to be allowed to hang out in the world. They have free will, I think it’s neat

[frigid tinsel]

No idea what it’s like in the Light but I figure if ancestors leave it from time to time, something about the Light doesn’t completely satisfy them that the world does. And what’s in the world that may be lacking in the Light? Skykids

[rigid mural]

and sunlight

[lyric isle]

playing splatoon cant talk but will soon

[rigid mural]

and grills, grills are so so so important

[keen shore]

Maybe it’s like. The Light DOES satisfy them they just want to help with cleaning up the disaster that some of them caused, so we don’t have to do it on our own.

It’s a perfectly good afterlife but it’s hard not to feel guilty when they’re fine in it while kids have to clean up their mess, so…

[sharp lichen]

I suppose, and there may be personal reasons as well to why the guides stay there

[frigid tinsel]

Yea like Granny doesn’t have to come down and server skykids dinner — skids don’t even need to eat — but it’s just something nice as a thanks for saving Granny’s family or even just Granny loves the satisfaction of feeding children, something they may not be able to do in the Light

[rigid mural]

thats the most granny thing ever, needing to cook so much food but so few want to be fed

[keen shore]

They know there are lonely children in distress and Absolutely Cannot Stand not helping them

[frigid tinsel]

Just becase the darkness has worsened those not mean it is invincible. They are children, but they have done so much already with their candelight.
We believe in them.

tbh I've wanted to share the whole thing here cos it's just Megabird monologuing about the eruptions. started as a musing on why Megabird took so long to send skykids on top of the quip from the Reddit Q&A that they always intended for eruptions in the start of the game.
unfortunately, the monologue is too long for a single message in Discord and with the 40sec slowmo. eh

the comment in the Q&A I'm talking about.

well chat is slow so

Megabird:
The eruptions have resumed.
The Eden diamond, that damn Eden diamond.
I thought it had calmed enough.
We knew it was a possibility, though I will concede I thought the worst of its corruption was over.
Will it ever truly stop?
Some of the children have been hurt by the falling shards, often permanently.
I wouldn’t have sent them if I knew... I wouldn’t have sent the children.
We’re so sorry.
We should call them back, nestle them in the safety of the Light until the eruptions cease.
And how long will that take?
How would we know for sure the violence has calmed for good? We were wrong the first time.
And there are still spirits to save — many, many spirits petrified in darkness and even walking the lands. Do I abandon them?
It would be unfair.
We have never abandoned anyone. Some may have felt we have when they don’t understand that we are still seeking.
Our children have suffered enough.
I knew they would struggle. Yet look at them — they’re thriving.
They’re hurting.
Many are angry at me. I do not blame them.
Of course they are angry. They’re children, they see the mildest slight a grave injustice, unable to grasp that not everything in life will go their way.
Is life not full of both joys and sorrows? They endure so much they lament, but they also experience bliss and humor. The children have cried as much as they have laughed. The children have found solace from the melancholy.
No one is within misery forever.
However, is it fair to bear life into a world choked in more hardships than one’s ancestors?
I’m so sorry.
Light withers alone in darkness. Together, the children have preserved, their candles combining into bonfires, warming each other and averting the shadows.
Not always.
We know. (1/2)

Should we stop spawning newborns? I worry the youngest may not be able to withstand the havoc in eruptions neither mentally nor physically.
They would have the guidance of the older children, as they have had before.
They are still children.
I do not blame those who return to the Light for good.
I will slow the birth rate but I will not stop. Just becase the darkness has worsened those not mean it is invincible. They are children, but they have done so much already with their candelight.
We believe in them. (2/2)

[rugged jackal]

I wanna say something but I can’t think of anything except just

You’re a good writer

[keen shore]

YEAH I ALREADY SAID THIS I KNOW BUT THIS IS SO GOOD, I really like this explanation of “why didn’t Megabird send down skykids to help earlier”, I LOVE THE DIALOGUE AND THE WAY ITS WRITTEN ERC

[rigid mural]

idk why but the way you write megabird is soothing

[keen shore]

I know? Usually when you see people writing …. I don’t want to say xenofiction but characters who think differently than humans in obvious ways, it’s kinda scary and alien, but this plays into that while still being nice :}

[rigid mural]

alasdair's megabird is like falling asleep in a gc but like, in the nice way because hearing your friends is soothing

[frigid tinsel]

idk why it's so easy for me to get into the mind of a god, this is like the third time

[keen shore]

I kinda get you although for full accuracy to this feeling, it would be interspersed with day images

[rigid mural]

isnt your gender some kind of void wizard, i think you must be channeling your stand

[frigid tinsel]

being a writer is kinda like being a god over one's own personal world

[slim plume]

Grasping the mindset of an immortal is weird tbh. The way I do it is to find a flaw and expand upon that flaw in a way that would have never been able to happen if they were mortal.

Since you're immortal, you're fixated with little change. That fixation only increases when surrounded with other immortals. Vanity, apathy, undying loyalty, they all explode because nothing and no one can or will stop them and no consequence can or will ever be big enough to stop them.

But I love how you wrote Megabird. Less human, more eldritch and unable to grasp as an individual but also comforting. Maybe that's the point. You can't understand community on your own, you have to experience it with others

Also that immortal mindset was mainly developed writing the Greek Goddesses and how I see them. Not the best, but not the worst either. They're both, they're truth. Not paragons. Just wanted to add that on in case you were wondering how I got that mindset ^

[frigid tinsel]

my Megabird is the collective consciousness of the Light, but cos there are so many beings of light with vastly different perspectives, Megabird has to negotiate between all those different trains of thought. that is what this monologue is supposed to entail.

Megabird is a collectivist hivemind – a representative of the beings of light within Them, They have so many minds informing Them.

[gleaming fog]

It is one, it is many.

[slim plume]

I love it, how they constantly sound like they're musing with themselves. Seeming to agree for a moment before disagreeing once again, trying to figure out which way's best when so much of them is saying it is and an equal part saying it isn't, and then the one thing that keeps them from disagreeing constantly is that hope in Light, in themselves

[gleaming fog]

Sounds a bit like twitter

[slim plume]

We were wrong guys, Megabird isn't a discord server, it's actually Twitter /j

[tepid veldt]

hey lorechat seems sneepy maybe i can dump some oc lore awwwwwcrap its 2k characters over the limit
its not even done i dont know why i wanna share

[pastel brook]

I see you, @tepid veldt, you should probably sleep, brah

[tepid veldt]

mr skybot it is 5:47pm i have ample time to not sleep

[keen copper]

What is aurora

[frigid tinsel]

a singer. she sings the vocals in the beginning Isle cutscene and during ascension/end credits. TGC is partnering with her again for the upcoming season

[keen copper]

Oh!

[keen copper]

Also, al have you seen my hc for manta anatomy?

[frigid tinsel]

I was sorta out of it when I saw it. I saw it but I was not mentally coherent

[keen copper]

Would you like to see it again?

@frigid tinsel

[frigid tinsel]

no, I'm writing rn.
btw you don't have to ping me.

[keen copper]

Sorry, I don't like doing it either

[hot belfry]

omg wait really? that’s insanely cool sorry for the ping

[compact shale]

lmao try me

[tepid veldt]

fruitzie is the Light confirmed?

[compact shale]

I can't send the link tho :(

[white junco]

"unfinished business"

[keen shore]

Losing it at this form and it being a thing in the first place

[tepid veldt]

“job title”
belonging guide: parental figure

[untold notch]

job title: child

[tepid veldt]

job title:
narcissist: being ✨fabulous✨ /hj

[untold notch]

sky kids filling out the form in crayon

[keen copper]

Lol

[frigid tinsel]

Fruitzie oml

[keen copper]

Fruitzie is based

[compact shale]

no

Belonging Guide

Job title would be "Guide"

[tepid veldt]

can there be multiple job titles for one spirit

[snow cosmos]

job title:
boogie kid: uhhhh

[compact shale]

Kid
their job title is "Kid"

[snow cosmos]

i get it i'm just imagining them scribbling it down with a note like "i don't have a job is this okay?"

[tepid veldt]

job title:
assembly: child

wait a minute

how many times would the belonging guide need to fill this form out a day

[compact shale]

12 :D

[snow cosmos]

can belonging guide get a long-term visa

[keen copper]

Juggler: silly guy

[frigid tinsel]

Assembly guide: scoutmaster

[compact shale]

Is Baud lurking rn

[sharp lichen]

What a silly word used there Alasdair.

||Hope that job title has no trauma related to it whatsoever||

[compact shale]

Baudy did you lurk

[untold notch]

filling out the form for cure.s /hj

[austere bridge]

anybody want to hear my short but detailed description of a skykid warping home

[round parrot]

What does lore chat think how Shushing Scholar reacts to Skykids dropping the guide spirit

[compact shale]

"SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!"

[tepid veldt]

dropping the what

[round parrot]

Someone from #screenshots-and-videos
<#screenshots-and-videos message>

[tepid veldt]

oh, cesky

shush is so busy shushing the music in vault that they dont notice and then the skykids cry

[flint bolt]

FELLAS

I JUST GOT A RARE PHOTO OF A NEWBORN DARK DRAGON

[compact shale]

SHOW! :D

[flint bolt]

[compact shale]

it's not april fools day warden

[flint bolt]

we do a little trollin

[austere bridge]

alr to all the people that wanted to hear it, hope you enjoy @snow cosmos @round parrot @compact shale @lyric isle
“The child, ready to return home, got down on its knees with its hands folded on its lap. A pillar of light appeared around them, its layers closing in on one another, until it become a a smooth column reaching skyward. Then, just like that, the child disappeared, leaving only but a faint imprint of their light behind, which quickly dissipated into the environment around it.”

[past canyon]

I wish i could get back home after work just like that

[snow cosmos]

me when overstimulated: sits down on the floor and waits to teleport home

[compact shale]

The overwhelming urge to turn into a sentient pencil so you can roll home without anone knowing

[snow cosmos]

i will simply Quit Without Saving

[keen shore]

hey guys I am curious. i have a bunch of theories/headcanons about the other realms but very few about prairie. drop your prairie headcanons & theories I am now curious
because in my brain it’s just kinda There

[tepid veldt]

prairie elder is friend shaped

honestly all i can think of when i think of prairie is the bells. i know they were used to attract light creatures, but was that for a positive or negative way? or both?

[snow cosmos]

hc prairie-folk consider butterflies good luck

[keen shore]

Yeah, I love all the realms!
isle of dawn, hidden forest, valley of triumph, golden wasteland, vault of knowledge, and
[looks at smudged writing on hand]
…Delight vary?

[untold notch]

milkweed is a popular plant in prairie

[snow cosmos]

i like to think prairie has a more agrarian approach to light farming, it's not 100% sustainable but it's like a family farm rather than a factory farm

[tepid veldt]

ah yes, happy differences

anyways goodnight lorechat

[compact shale]

The Sanctuary Islands was supposed to be a backup/expansion to the Wind Paths

[keen shore]

My only real major concept for prairie is that… day is obviously super protective of light creatures and that they’re what the “stars” are meant to be in star collector’s general story. [like, from a critical outside perspective, they’re ‘hoarding’ them despite having no real claim over them.]

But also although they hate what the light creatures they send off are obviously being used for they feel too anxious to do anything major about it because unlike isle, they are not a separate island that can cut itself off at any time and depend on the other realms too much

[snow cosmos]

hc there's a rule about not naming the mantas bc if you name a manta you're legally obligated to keep it

[keen shore]

And that’s All I Have. I have so many forest headcanons, wasteland headcanons, isle headcanons, Eden headcanons, and then you ask me to tell you prairie info and . That’s all I have. It might be because you can’t really do much interesting stuff with the whole elders as their realms concept because prairie is still lush and green, and so on

[compact shale]

This headcanon isn't about Prairie, but about whisperers and light creatures in general

Being bald as a Whisperer is for entirely practical reasons. No matter how bald you are, you can't reliably ensure that the creatures won't pull your hair.

In Jelly Whisperer's case, their "hair" is alive and they're bald too.
Bird Whisperer doesn't know the horrors yet and Light Whisperer really doesn't mind.

[snow cosmos]

memory whisperer, also bald:

[keen shore]

hmmmmlet me think. maybe. there is some distinct architecture in prairie but the majority of people live in carved out caves [like shipwright] because of the tall rock cliffs and it is just easier. this is opposed to isle where they live in natural caves.

the stone they carve out from the ground is then used to build stuff like the temple and belltowers, and most of the mines in prairie (like the caves) are solely for stone bc there isn’t naturally occurring darkstone there

[compact shale]

Hey, if memory mantas can carry us, there's no reason to assume they can't bite hair off

who knows how advanced that tech is

[keen shore]

I get this but also I think that if whale whisperer was in a situation where they had to be concerned about a whale pulling their hair in the first place they’d already be dead.

Although, honestly, we do see them die and a near death in other spirit memories, so they could just be like that

[snow cosmos]

what if aside from light farming prairie also produces some really talented potters and stonemasons?

[fickle wing]

i like 2 think that prairie sometimes has wildfires go down like irl prairies n that control burns were something ancestors did

[keen shore]

OHHHH I LIKE BOTH OF THE ONES ABOVE, stonecsrving makes sense especially bc you see it first in prairie, and controlled burns are also cool!!

Prairie is mostly above the clouds but still seems very green like it gets a lot of rain for some reason, wonder if the elder is to blame for that

[round parrot]

Do Skykids count as a wildfire in Prairie?

[fickle wing]

lighting 500000 candles at once challenge in prairie gone wrong

[keen shore]

mantas learn to carry burning sticks in their mouths to start fires and more efficiently hunt things, [like black kites], disaster ensues

[round parrot]

The " " emoji makes sense now

[keen shore]

okay now I’m wondering. Why is prairie so well off and green and lush meanwhile All the other realms have something messing them up — desertification, darkness pollution, constantly covered in snow…. Do you guys think it’s from green light or could I delve into this with the elder=realm idea more

You could make an argument that valley is supposed to be like that since it’s the top of a mountain but yknow, my point still stands that nothing grows there

[round parrot]

Aside from the bloom sapling

[keen shore]

special case, as those saplings are maintained by the lightseekers vs the elders/realms themselves

[snow cosmos]

maybe prairie's staying stubbornly green despite everything is sorta reflective of Ayin going dormant rather than facing the problems around them?
"i do not see it, there is nothing wrong"

[frigid tinsel]

Something something Day Elder’s spy network

[compact shale]

we count as wild animals

[keen shore]

Saw the disaster coming and went “I simply refuse to be affected by this” and it worked

[untold notch]

unbothered king we love ayin

[keen shore]

about to die? simply say no. your life can’t be taken away without your consent, that’s stealing

[snow cosmos]

that was my strategy whenever my previous housemates would try to start conflict
"i'm asleep, this is not happening"

[keen shore]

Yeah see that’s exactly Day’s mentality in only six words

[snow cosmos]

Ayin put themself and their realm on pause

[keen shore]

But like on a non joking basis I get you and am stealing that idea, it makes even more sense because inside prairie everything seems to be fine on a surface level, it would be so easy to pretend the same is true outside as well

[snow cosmos]

all yours!

inside prairie everything seems to be fine on a surface level, it would be so easy to pretend the same is true outside as well
especially when you're on your first journey and you have no idea how bad things really are

[compact shale]

If we dug under Prairie's soil, would we see how Eden messed it up?

[round parrot]

Question about the theory "Elders are their realms" What do each shard in each realm from the eruption mean?

[keen shore]

Maybe! I have a headcanon that the grass doesn’t grow, it’s kinda frozen in its current state, although what I meant is more like. Everyone Is Dead

[frigid tinsel]

I don't think so. if there was a corrupted underlayer, it would have to well-divided from the flourishing topsoil or else the darkness would leak up and ruin Prairie

[keen shore]

A very bad day for the elder in question,

[snow cosmos]

i think Prairie is, through sheer force of will and denial, frozen in time before the calamity

[compact shale]

Maybe we'd find something

✨ Ancestor Corpses ✨

[round parrot]

That means
every day is = 1 bad day for one of the elders

[snow cosmos]

every day is a bad day for someone
except Daleth who is just Done With This Nonsense

[untold notch]

not Daleth tho they're chillinh

[frigid tinsel]

I don't think it "means" anything, just there are shards falling in the realms. per the Elders are their realms theory, the Elders might feel the effects of the shards, feeling cold or being in pain

[snow cosmos]

Daleth has aged out of the Very Bad Day Roulette

[compact shale]

Daily shards are like the deal with Prometheus, his liver, and the eagle, except the liver-pecking burden is distributed into 5/6 bodies

[frigid tinsel]

Dawn just got lucky the eruptions aren't powerful enough to yeet shards into their realm

[keen shore]

yeah! [although, I would argue they’d have a lot of bad days without the shards due to Everything but yknow]. Whatever physical/mental effects theyd experience probably vary in severity in the same way the shard does. Like black shards aren’t that bad while the red ones with floating bits all around? awful.

i also have a headcanon that the shards aren’t as predictable in canon, like, they don’t always fall in the same realm as the quests or in a perfect order etc, I just think it makes more sense

[untold notch]

yeah it might just be Game Mechanics on that end

and iirc the sky in isle does change when theres eruptions in other realms

[frigid tinsel]

yea, perhaps in-universe shards could land in multiple realms for one eruption or a few shards can reach far enough to land in Isle or there can be black and red shards landing in one realm at a time

[keen shore]

how much light each realm has also probably effects how the elders deal with them, like day would be way better than dusk from the same shard etc

[fickle wing]

isle doesn’t get hit w the evil poprocks cause resh still cares abt daleth u can pry this idea out of my cold dead hands

[keen shore]

This implies that they can control where the other shards go and just really hate everyone else

[untold notch]

I think it's more like where a main character gets possessed and they stop themselves from attacking their friends/lovers/etc in a really dramatic moment

[snow cosmos]

there is something to be said about the whole - like, the shards are almost a punishment for everything they did in terms of industrialization? and if Daleth refused to participate in the whole darkstone thing, it would make sense that their realm is spared

[fickle wing]

resh rlly said i hate all of u*

*except for daleth

[keen shore]

I can’t decide whether it’s this or “isle gets forgotten about instance 83”
the real answer is most likely “we don’t want a newborn moth to immediately get sharded”

[frigid tinsel]

c'mon TGC, shard a moth

[untold notch]

"ow wow this game is so pretty-" (gets crushed by a radioactive rock)

[keen shore]

Oh of course you would say this /j

[snow cosmos]

resh, pointing at each elder: screw you, screw you, screw you- no not you, we're chill-

[untold notch]

don't worry they die in hir fic

[frigid tinsel]

this is gonna be my legacy, huh

[round parrot]

Off topic headcanon: Crabs charge at us because they want our light, since they think that light is their only chance to not be corrupted (Shard crabs are in a purgatory of this desire for light because their shards eat the light instead)

[snow cosmos]

related headcanon that if someone possessed the ability to heal skykid corruption, they could also heal corrupted crabs before they reach the crystals-bursting-through-shell stage

[rugged jackal]

Maybe isle is just too far away from Eden to get sharded?
It would also make sense of how there is no darkness in Isle (I think) maybe it did get effected by the eruption but was too far away for it do really do much noticeable damage

Just a thought
I probably heard it from someone else, can’t remember who

[keen shore]

There is darkness in isle! Several darkness plants in fact. I think it being too far away from shards is a valid point though, except maybe rare really powerful ones

[rugged jackal]

Out of curiosity, where are the plants? It’s been a hot minute since I’ve explored Isle

[round parrot]

• yoinks headcanon for OC lore *

[keen shore]

Rejecting voyager & piggyback lightseekers spirit memories!

[frigid tinsel]

there are also darkness plants in the cave under Dawn’s temple, where you can find Rejecting Voyager

[round parrot]

How would this "someone" perform their ability to heal corruption? Like through music? Or a staff? totally not for OC lore

[copper saffron]

magic....
what is skykid corruption tho? ik it's a common headcanon

[round parrot]

If we're gonna follow the "Corrupted Skykids become evil", then it is one of the following (or both if you really look into it)

-Darkness takes over a Skykid's body and mind, causing the Skykid to go rogue
-The darkness taking over a Skykid overwhelms them, thus becoming reckless and searching for ways to cure them from this corruption

[hushed steeple]

Nothing to back it up, but I somehow always feel like the darkness in Sky is "evil" only because the light did something bad in the first place.

[rain pond]

I think that corruption by darkness just causes immense pain (Darkness seems to devour light) hence the aggression from dark creatures, they don't know what they're doing anymore

[round parrot]

I guess I am a dark creature because I don't know what I am doing

[hushed steeple]

Imo shards not reaching isle can be easily explained - They can land there, but it's just very unlikely. Not only it's far away from the Eden, but the whole isle is also surrounded by huge tall clouds that might act as natural barrier from it. There is only very narrow gap between those clouds and it's the gap we use when we traverse the temple. The temple itself is also closer to sea level than it is to the top of the clouds. It's just very unlikely that something slip past to the isle.

[rain pond]

[copper saffron]

i think all skykids have darkness within them. those crystals that appear when you're downed could be darkness. when your light is reignited, it melts away.
if a skykid is consumed by darkness in this concept, it's simply the end of eden. they turn into statues and their souls are released back to the light to be reborn.
because i have this headcanon idk what would happen with corrupted skykids cause they'd just die...
however, i too am working on a fanfic thing where a skykid can wield the darkness without dying. it's part of them after all, they just have to learn to control it and not let it kill them.

[hushed steeple]

Now that you mentioned it. It would actually make sense that creatures of darkness hate light creatures. Imagine you're just chilling around and suddenly you're being blinded by some damn moth, and since you're a night creature, it feels like someone just flashed a flashlight into your face in the middle of the night. Everyone would be annoyed. After all we don't see them attacking each other.

[round parrot]

.>
<.<

• snatches headcanon * /j

All jokes aside, I really like this headcanon, it kind of honestly goes well with my headcanon (but your choice if you wanna make connections)

[hushed steeple]

those crystals that appear when you're downed could be darkness. when your light is reignited, it melts away.
What if darkness isn't actually bad. It grows crystals around us and tries to petrify us to protect us. I mean, look at all those statues in Eden, even with everything around destroyed they still stand, waiting.

[compact shale]

Wanna cross headcanons? (hands headcanon card)

edit: jk i don't have any related headcanons rn

[round parrot]

Crossing headcanons my beloved

[hushed steeple]

That could be actually pretty cool motivation for the darkness as semi-entity. It doesn't want to harm us, quite opposite. It sees our light, and wants to save us from burning out. It tries to extinguish us and preserve so we can stay eternal.

[round parrot]

I like the concept! Kind of like our stomach acid, it's not good if it's too much, but helpful for us to digest food!

[rain pond]

how do we explain krills then? especially because they are now pretty much confirmed to be corrupted light creatures

[compact shale]

There's a MOTD that says krill want to devour our light. So I'm guessing they do it in an attempt to un-corrupt themselves.

[hushed steeple]

Krills might be corrupted, but I dont think it means they're 100% dark creatures, therefore they still have some agency of their own.

[round parrot]

Throwback to this headcanon rq

[round parrot]

I mean, corruption has to have a light body to grow on

[hushed steeple]

Where was it confirmed that krills were corrupted tho? I started playing Sky fairy recently so Im not sure if I missed something there or what.

[round parrot]

Probably from a Q&A

[formal oxide]

the season of shattering and memories that you're teleported to

[round parrot]

Oh yeah! And that!

[vast lintel]

When will the quota for optometrists be open

[compact shale]

Eh?

[rain pond]

"distorted reflection" which is why I said "pretty much confirmed" instead of "it's defo confirmed"
also I want to explore the "insatiable hunger" bit - is it the hunger to be uncorrupted?

[round parrot]

Hunger for light most likely

[rigid mural]

Hint in the home screen says dark dragons hunger for your light iirc

[vast lintel]

How to apply for the qualification of SKY test clothes

[pastel brook]

📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.

[round parrot]

#questions-and-help

[copper saffron]

here's how i see it:
the light is the skykids' life force, while the darkness is their physical form. if they are completely charged with light as seen in the ascent, they become basically immortal and glow with light. when consumed by darkness, they go into a stasis and become statues. neither force is inherently good or bad, simply that it's the nature of it.
light is associated with rebirth, nothing is eternal, tho through it you can be functionally so as you can be reborn. but the cycle always continues. it's a force of action, it encourages connection with others to achieve a greater good.
darkness however seems to be associated with memory and the past. it ensures you never forget what happened, and it protects memories (the things in vault are called memory cubes in concept arts) spirits also seem to be some kind of darkness memory, as you burn a plant to relive them. perhaps the spirits were preserved by the darkness.

[rain pond]

since Darkness is natural and seems to have petrification properties, can we perhaps assume that Megabird put both in us? Perhaps the Darkness is used to prevent our clay shells from melting away?

Or perhaps once the Darkness takes a certain concentration in the Sky kid it is able to start petrifying to buy the inner light enough time to ditch the dying body

[hushed steeple]

Oh I see. Yeah, I get where you're coming from now. Yeah that makes sense, to I guess we need more info on what Light Dragons would be then. The fact that Krills were present on murals would make me think that it must have happened long before the darkness actually became a problem.

[vast lintel]

@round parrot Thank you

[rain pond]

But to explain the hunger for Light, we have to assume that Darkness causes some response from the mind - pain seems to make sense, because Darkness does, in the end, consume Light, so it would feel like something that eats away your physical body and to an extent your soul too

[hushed steeple]

Also, there is clearly some kind of limit to how much light krills can handle. There is a a reason why we only find them in places where light has difficulty reaching. There is something stopping them from just going out across realms in pursuit of light.

[rain pond]

it's called the SCP foundation, run by Megabird /j

[hushed steeple]

What im currently more confused about is how much spirits can do in the world. We can relive their memories, but it seems that can still have quite a lot of influence on the world.

[compact shale]

They can bestow us with gifts
they can teach us things
They can touch us, or we can touch them, not sure which is which
They can feed us
They can interact with objects

[hushed steeple]

Given the grilling crabs on the graveyard. It would appear they can do that too.

So perhaps better question would be, what is even the downside of being a spirit at this point.

[compact shale]

Not being reborn

[copper saffron]

they are a memory of someone long dead, stored by the darkness in a moment of importance.

[round parrot]

This probably means that some spirits won't be able to visit or see Skykids, since their memory isn't stored by the darkness in a moment of importance

[compact shale]

Is there some inherent shame in being a spirit?

As in, you're down here, yet you're not alive.
Or, you're dead, but you're not up there.

Do spirits feel ashamed that they haven't ascended?

[round parrot]

It's more of "Waiting to be Ascended by a random child"

[compact shale]

True

But do they feel ashamed about the fact that they can't ascend/haven't ascended until now? Is there stigma towards the unascended?

[hushed steeple]

I think we could ask if it's even considered as something "good"

They might not even feel the need for ascending

[compact shale]

I've considered that before, that some spirits don't see the need for it, but I wonder if not wanting to ascend is something that makes you a social outcast and that kind of stuff

Like if you're an unascended spirit among living ancestors they'll tell the spirit to "KNOW THEIR PLACE!"

[rain pond]

I mean, the spirits seem to be nice so I doubt they'd judge each other negatively over not bumping into a random demigod child thing that makes goose noises on occasion

[compact shale]

Nice... to us, but how about each other?

Also when none of you are ascended you either beat each other up or shut up about it

[rain pond]

it's like saying being struck by lightning is a skill issue imo

also the spirits seem to be friends in some capacity, see Performance NPCs as the audience as a example

[compact shale]

Even if they meet a goosechild, they could still refuse ascension

In that case, would they be outcasted for it?

[hushed steeple]

Now I started wondering if a spirit can become dark spirit.

[rain pond]

also we need to change sky kid to goosechild in lorechat so as to confuse new people

[copper saffron]

i think once u actually ascend them, they are free and can go between worlds. like you, they are one with both the light and darkness. they are whole again, but unlike you who is more aligned with the light and can be killed by the darkness, they are more aligned with the darkness, and the light allows them to regain their consciousness/life force. when we relive them, we give them a bit of our light so that we can learn from and interact with them.
idk
also yes, goosechild

[rain pond]

that weird statue near the catapult in Wasteland could be one

[hushed steeple]

Oh, I don't think I've seen what you're talking about.

[rain pond]

but then the question is why don't we see more of them?

[hushed steeple]

Curious indeed

[copper saffron]

CONSUMED BY THE DARKNESS

[fair knot]

OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGG The new memory O.O

[fringe hare]

This new memory seems pretty huge.

Definitely some beans to be gathered from the collective story I think.

The needle shape in the top definitely reminds me of the king in some way. I’m wondering if it’s coming out of the broken diamond, going upward as the elders fall. Or if it’s like a spike hitting the top which caused the break resulting in the shatter.. many questions

This definitely seems like the moment the stars fell. Big feels. Looking forward to what the lore buffs think about all this

[fair knot]

Those two kids at the top ..... I think they started everything O.O

[rapid knoll]

I'm this close 👌 to joining tgc so i get access to more lore.

[round parrot]

Their faces look kinda distorted, perhaps it's a symbol of the memory starting to fade away? Or is it because of technical issues?

[rapid knoll]

they were hugging right? and after pnr, we hug someone..maybe that's us?

[fair knot]

yYeahh O.O And I think one is taller than the other

[round parrot]

Oh and... The.. Oh...

[rapid knoll]

wait what!

[fair knot]

They are upside down ... Thatssss curious

[round parrot]

KING/PRINCE FANS ASSEMBLE

[rapid knoll]

why is resh upside down?

[fair knot]

And why they dont have a body O.o only the mask

[round parrot]

Ever since I saw this in Beta, I always thought Resh was in a watching position

[rapid knoll]

Maybe resh died? Is that why we can't save him??

[round parrot]

Or maybe

They got rotated /j

[rapid knoll]

He was too close when the shard exploded, and the others just lost stuff, but he lost everything.

[fair knot]

Those kids are the ones who bring us home o.o ..... The meditation thingy

[solar gulch]

King/prince like this shuld be represent it inside the diamond.

[round parrot]

Perhaps there were 2 Skykids who witnessed the incident and now became a memory?

[gentle jolt]

Man if those two wing lights hugging really IS us, there is a non zero chance we are the reincarnated form of someone super important. After all, we were there with all the elders right?

[rapid knoll]

My opinion (combined with what others said):
The hugging wl is us at the end of pnr when we hug the child to get ourselves back. And they are our way home, like sky kids are bringing the elders back home. I think these two started everything.

Resh is there, but discreet, he's just a mask. Which makes me think when Eden exploded, they all got blown back and lost everything important to them, but resh died and all that was left of him is the mask. That is why tgc said we can't save resh

[round parrot]

I wonder why it's in a specific pose?

[fair knot]

So us hugging that skykid may be a memory of what happened before and this memory is showing that?

[rapid knoll]

No I'm saying those two sky kids started it all. Maybe they were the original sky kids. And they got seperated when Eden exploded . One is us, one is trapped in Eden, that is why after pnr we reunite and hug

i just realised the prophecy symbol looks a lot like resh's mask

[solar gulch]

For me this memories is a bit all together, it show both past event and present event.
Past is the explosion of the diamond that corrupt everything, killed the elders and imprisoned the king/prince inside the diamond.
Present the two light childs, one is us other is the prince that help us go out of the void of the eden for make us able to ascent and reborn.

[round parrot]

Well, yeah! Because it is!

[eternal totem]

Those are the reused assets from Light Awaits/old beta, they're not meant to be seen up-close

[rapid knoll]

i never realised that

[wraith acorn]

A picture which I guess well describes many player's (mine included) state of my mind

#sky-memes message

[rapid knoll]

y'all omg maybe shard are erupting now because surprise surprise RESH/KING IS TRYING TO COME OUT (of the power diamond)
/j

[round parrot]

Honestly thought I got something there 💀

[shrewd mango]

I just realized, all the elder's faces are fine except for Samekh and lamed

Sah and mek have a small crack in their face while vaults is a bit messy

[nova osprey]

||if y’all are interested you can find one or two videos from sky light awaits beta where someone found this exact scene hidden somewhere… minus one thing||

[rapid knoll]

Also uk befor second part of Eden, i never realised before last week that there are candles. and once u light then up, u see drawings

[round parrot]

YES PLEASEE

Wait, aren't you talking about ||one of this discord shepherds finding said scene?||

[round parrot]

By messy, do you mean messed up?

[shrewd mango]

Yeah-

[nova osprey]

let me dig a bit to find it!

yes that’s it

[languid island]

Yes I think it is the bomb which they had designed to make void diamond into more utilizable form, which lead to the catastrophe

[rapid knoll]

i be like "ah yes, it's all coming together" and literally no clue about anything

[solar gulch]

https://youtu.be/NbE6Q816RcE

[round parrot]

Yes! That one!

[gentle jolt]

Did you guys notice that in Eden there is a beam of light shooting up from the diamond and it’s the same placement as the two kids hugging in the memory?

Then when we hug in Eden we travel up on a giant beam of light to begin our ascent to Orbit

[copper saffron]

I knew yall would like this
Was waiting for the day

[languid island]

Why I think this is the bomb, because it has a falling trail above it

[rapid knoll]

jk jk..unless

[languid island]

We will also have to wait for this shardmemory poem

[solar gulch]

I am try finding the one that old beta player post, more visible for the elders

[round parrot]

I had to edit it because it was sideways
I had this at the very bottom of my gallary

[rapid knoll]

wait omg

[shrewd mango]

You can also drop down on the middle of the diamond

[round parrot]

Iirc, this video came from a Community Shepherd, forgot who though

[rapid knoll]

sorry?

[shrewd mango]

And resh is directly above it

[shrewd mango]

If you landed on the resh then drop down, you'll land in the middle of the diamond

[rapid knoll]

ohh ty, i'll try that

[gentle jolt]

I wonder that since the hugging children represent reincarnation and rebirth for us, and they are directly under resh, was resh reborn as something else?

[rapid knoll]

maybe the child we hug at the end of pnr is resh? but no...

[gentle jolt]

What if we are resh lol

[rapid knoll]

that..makes sense...maybe thats why tgc said resh cant be saved,

[gentle jolt]

Resh is too busy saving everyone else

[shrewd mango]

Resh is so powerful when he was reborn he was shattered into millions of pieces and we're those pieces /j

[round parrot]

||* flashbacks to the Knight is the Pale King theory * /ref||

[gentle jolt]

I kinda wonder how other Sky kids work in lore since in the intro at the beginning of the game it sounded like just one child

[rapid knoll]

reproduced

[round parrot]

Side characters /j

[rapid knoll]

since sky children are just clay and light, maybe the poor little guy felt lonely, so he made some friends - innocent version

[fair knot]

The prince just needed a hug 😦

[eternal totem]

I meeaaaaan, Vault's mask is damaged— it could be a byproduct of the initial blast?

[shrewd mango]

Me and a friend of mine used this for an au, but eh- just a what if

What if we're all yeeted out into orbit when the diamond exploded and now we're just getting sent back

[copper saffron]

Im surprised u guys aren't also going insane about the sky anime teaser

[round parrot]

But the question is, why would the "prince" merge with us

[rapid knoll]

THE WHAT

[eternal totem]

THE WHAT WHERE WH LINK????????????? WHOHIBHO

[copper saffron]

Check the news channel

[shrewd mango]

But why would valley elders and vault are the only ones that have damaged faces?

[round parrot]

STOP 💀💀💀💀💀

[rustic glen]

I'M IN CLASS I CAN'T WATCH IT OMGGG

[eternal totem]

I only said Vault, Valley got nothing to do with that

[copper saffron]

Its very short but there are a lot of new scenes

[fair knot]

OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

[shrewd mango]

Yep, just included them since their is also damaged

[rapid knoll]

OMG THE TEASER IM GOING TO CRY

[fair knot]

The big crabbbbbbbb

[rapid knoll]

THIS IS SO MUCH IN ONE DAY. TGC HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO FOCUS ON ANYTHING ELSE NOW.

[round parrot]

TGC FINALLY FED US SINCE 7 DAYS OF SKY

[rare night]

SO APPARENTLY SPIRITS HAD SKY KIDS AS THEIR CHILDREN??? (based off the teaser ig)

[rapid knoll]

and all this lore is during tgs2022

[gentle jolt]

Wasn’t the Isle elders face like completely blown off when we first meet him

[rustic glen]

WHAT

[round parrot]

Nah, they just wear masks similar to Skykids

[dusty skiff]

OMGG WHAT IF UT TRUE?? THATSS WONDERFUL

[rare night]

Oh 😭😭

[rapid knoll]

well by that logic, we're all orpans

[round parrot]

CRYING

[hollow acorn]

Is Sky Anime probably a story of the time when the Kingdom of Sky flourished?

[shrewd mango]

Yeah but I'm talking about the memory

[dusty skiff]

Oh wow 😀 but still the idea is amazing

[copper saffron]

I dont think they're skykids, just ancestor kids
Maybe skykids are these ancestor kids reborn in the light after they died, but with no memories

[rapid knoll]

yeah i think

[round parrot]

I am having symptoms the "You're wrong, I'm right" illness 💀

[tepid veldt]

TREE CAMEO!!

[rare night]

SO
SO
Ok hear me out
If the isle in the trailer used to be so amazing, so green, and such, Does that mean Isle elder wasnt an oldie back then? No no, He was always a oldie.. Uhm ok u
im dumb 😭

[tepid veldt]

lmao sorry for barging in i got excited for trees for some reason

[round parrot]

WAIT

ELDER BIRD CAMEO WAS THERE IN THE NINTENDO SWITCH TRAILER I FORGOT ABOUT THAT

[dusty skiff]

Yea you are right because wasn’t resh the first sky kid?

[rare night]

whos resh

[round parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/sky-children-of-the-light-sky-children-of-light-sky-cotl-king-resh-resh-sky-children-of-the-light-gif-24624725

[fair knot]

The prince/king

[compact shale]

TREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[eternal totem]

I can't comprehend anything rn

[tepid veldt]

i was scrolling, clicked news, and knocked my ipad over i dont know why im excited for TREES

[compact shale]

Me but more often

[rustic glen]

tbh trees are not very common in sky

[rare night]

Yall think Rhythulians used to live in the world of sky too??? I mean.. You can see them on the door of isle elder entrance

[eternal totem]

The who

[round parrot]

Thinking the same thing as Dark

[tepid veldt]

the..rhythm..people??

[rare night]

Rhythulians are characters in Journey, Another game made by TGC

[fair knot]

So they had sequoia tree back then

[eternal totem]

Oh lol, those, I don't think so

[copper saffron]

Lots of theories point to that, yes. Theres also something in beta that relates to that trailer, but i cant say rn.

[round parrot]

OHHHH
Well, it's just a tiny reference, Journey is not canon to the game (probably because Journey is owned by Sony)

[rustic glen]

wha wha wha

[eternal totem]

There's also the poem for the last memory still

[rare night]

Journey x Sky aus are still lit tho 😔😔😔😔😔😔😔

[rustic glen]

I need to knooooowww

[eternal totem]

I advise against making references to beta of any kind, that includes "I know a thing or two"

[round parrot]

Oh sorry, I didn't know references wasn't allowed

[tepid veldt]

the new quest is out right?

[round parrot]

YES

THATS WHY LORECHAT IS GOING INSANE

[tepid veldt]

ITS 4AM I DONT KNOW THESE THINGS TIME TO DO THEM

[compact shale]

||ELDARRRRSSS||

[tepid veldt]

its time for a speedrun
HONK ARE THE SHARDS ACTIVE

[rare night]

Why is sky lore so hard to explain like fnaf lore
MATPATT WE NEED YOU!!!!

[compact shale]

contested topic, some think mattpatt will ruin it

[copper saffron]

The kids we see in the trailer bear a very striking resemblance to skykids. Hence my theory that skykids are those children who died in the collapse or whatever you call the fall of the kingdom. But since their souls are pure, the Light brought them back to be the next generation, the descendants who would save the kingdom. Albeit with no memories.

[tepid veldt]

welp ill avoid lorechat for the time being if were talking abt the new quest, and also because i need to sleep night

[eternal totem]

I think it's okay to say you've known this or that once it's released to the public, but references to future content Imo shouldn't be brought up, might ruin the surprise or set up false expectations

[dusty skiff]

This kinda makes sense

[rare night]

So
From now on
I'll take pictures of sky murals and try to connect them together

[eternal totem]

There is a mural doc

[round parrot]

The timing 💀

[olive cypress]

Hey,i have a question
If sky kid's outfit doesn't have a shadow because it's made of light
Why do light creatures have shadows?

[fair knot]

Ohhh those kids, from the trailer, dont have the glowing thingy on their chests like that one from the first teaser o.o

[copper saffron]

Cus theyre not skykids. See my theory above lmao

[eternal totem]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FQgj2Ii1A9p1kSly9rehvZU-fPsKtGazuEGvE3Od-Bg I think that's the one, by Salem

[wispy canopy]

Hewwo

[round parrot]

Well, Skykids aren't entirely made out of light, so do light creatures (probably made by a hardened light clay thing) while capes are directly light

[rustic glen]

It's not working hm

[eternal totem]

I edited the link, try again

[copper saffron]

If skykids are reincarnated ancestor kids, that would explain their hard physical bodies that have a connection to the darkness, as so did the ancestors. The light allows them to fly

[rustic glen]

My theory is that ancestors couldn't be corrupted by the darkness, because they don't have any light, whereas skykids and light creatures can get corrupted by darkness/diamonds, hence that's why the king got corrupted by power diamonds (both physically and mentally) and the elders didn't

[olive cypress]

Oh yes, in some places the sky kid's shadow sometimes doesn't blend together, like the hands don't merge with the body, the palms don't merge with the arms

[granite sequoia]

Two kids?? Was the winged light on top of the crystal actually two kids hugging??

[compact shale]

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS

HOLY FRICK

[gentle jolt]

It really was

[gentle jolt]

Here, someone posted some pictures where you can see the hug more clearly @granite sequoia

#seasons-events-chat message

[lyric isle]

[slams door open so hard it breaks]

LOOK AT #news

[quick terrace]

YES !!

[lyric isle]

I AM SO EXCITED

[west mural]

AN ANIMATION??????

LORE PLAYERS WE WON WE WON SO MUCH OH LORD PLEASEEEEEE

[quick terrace]

smthn interesting i noticed abt the trailer was that the spirits in the opening shot resembled the ushering stargazer and rejecting voyager.

[compact shale]

THEY HAVE BEEN CLOTHED

[copper saffron]

I KNOW

[eternal totem]

Ong you might be right

[copper saffron]

Ushering is so chonky now lmao

If they really were in the trailer, they were much slimmer looking when they were alive

[quick terrace]

i only rlly noticed bc of the hair

[eternal totem]

They still look kinda chonky

[lyric isle]

YO WHAT??

[outer moth]

Hey, I just spent a bunch of time in the last season memory and I saw every elder spirit except the prairie elder ?? Does someone know where he could be ?

[shrewd mango]

Can i send pictures in here from the animation?

[outer moth]

Also there is a light child above the red crystal

[compact shale]

Asleep, or pulverized into elder dust

pick one

[icy pewter]

isle elder was born at the young age of 87 years old (canon)

[outer moth]

🥲🥲🥲 I'll take the option "sleepin with the butterflies"

[chrome lantern]

What's this? It looks interesting to me

[rain pond]

they mantalulled out of there lol

[compact shale]

I don't know if it's Resh or a giant spear

[chrome lantern]

Man I love the last wl from the last shard was a person hugging another person

[shrewd mango]

If the yellow circle could've been the prophecy caves, what could possibly be the blue one?

Prairie entrance? Although the prairie entrance is beyond the temple sooo..

[rain pond]

secret lore location of new season, or a modeling oversight

[eternal totem]

Should be next to Wasteland Elder? It's hard to see once they're in the dark

[rain pond]

the latter feels more likely

[lyric isle]

will do shard today, seems a very big important one

[outer moth]

I didn't see the wasteland elder ? I saw their spear above the red crystal so I counted him in

[eternal totem]

That's not their spear, Wasteland is next to Isle

[rain pond]

also why is the king upside down above the diamond

[eternal totem]

Here they are, it's hard to see once they're in the dark

[outer moth]

Sorry I didn't see him, you're right

[rigid iron]

hello everyone i am currently exploding because of the teaser, how are you all?

[compact shale]

they think their crown can split the diamond like a wood-splitting wedge

that might be what's happening

Resh made themselves into a giant wedge and nyoomed in

Resh the Wedge King

[torn eagle]

Not sure if the thing above is the king themselves or their spear

If its the former... What are they doing 💀 if its the latter does that mean they were also against the red diamond and actually dealt the final blow? (In tomcepts they were wielding a spear)

On another note... Do you think the wl in the last memory depicts us hugging the child in the final bits of eden? If so does that mean that the wl are indeed memories of the white child? If not.. another skykid?

[eternal totem]

Maybe it's Resh's divorce party, power diamond piñata

[torn eagle]

Guess they put too much explosives pop rocks in the pinata 💀

[eternal totem]

The poem will make the picture much clearer

[torn eagle]

Totally forgot about that

[eternal totem]

They still work on a Friday so hopefully we'll get it today

[sharp lichen]

CHILDREN HAVE VOICES?????

[dusty skiff]

NO WAY

[eternal totem]

WOOOOAAAH

That was not, meant in reaction to your post Rene; yes it is the Vault Elder

I don't think it's decipherable; initially the model was not meant to be seen up-close

[sharp lichen]

Wait I haven’t completed the quest yet, is the memory that the King has wedged themselves into the Eden Diamond while the Elders watch? If so, that’s some pretty clear-cut canon lore onto Sky

So there’s 2 pretty big choices: Either that large spike is the King, or a spear. I’m betting on the King.

Take that, people who said shattering has no lore!

[round parrot]

I have a closeup pic if you wanna see it

[round parrot]

Here ya go! (ping off)

[sharp lichen]

Hmm, it looks like the King falling down. Wheres the position of this in relation to the rest of the shard?

[jade current]

Directly above the shard

I thought it was supposed to be a star rising (like the ascension to orbit)

[sharp lichen]

But if you reverse it, it’s the symbol, that represents the King

[eternal totem]

At the tip of the shard there's a singular WL in the pose of two WL hugging

[sharp lichen]

WAIT, what could that be??

It has to be the Prince and us, the Child of Light

[round parrot]

Lorechat speculated that it might be the 2 Skykids hug who each other before entering orbit

[sharp lichen]

That WL could either represent Resh, an inner WL, or is

[round parrot]

It has to be the Prince and us, the Child of Light

Ngl, alot of people think this is the case

[slim mango]

Um... Am i didn't know that i can hear same Eden crystal voice from last memory?

[torn eagle]

Supports the wl being the memories of the prince theory ngl

[torn eagle]

Tbh its either the king or the kings spear.. the body suggests a spear while the head suggests the king

In tomcepts the king wields a spear

It suggests that either the king was also against the red diamond at some point and dealt the final blow (if it is a spear)

If its the king himself.. whatre they gonna do 💀