#eden-spoilers
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crawl for life
Sorry if this is beta spoilers, but I do recall it being in the patch notes; //new season ||I believe for the new season (season of shattering) there will be opportunities to get AC light!||
It's not beta spoilers anymore, I believe. It was written in patch notes.
Ik a lot of us are unhappy with the new update for Eden, so reminder to all hail king tuna 🐟💙
Last time I did Eden I was almost at the gem I fear I’ll never will with the update
Eden is Eden
I feel your pain
Eden moths 
The moth in the second pic was scared to go into pnr (used scared and shivering emotes), but after I gave them encouragement using deep breathing and calm and confetti emotes, they went in
A heartwarming moment 
Is it normal that new spirits appear after doing eden for the first time? (Spirits are Kind of purple tho)
It is! That unlocks access to the spirits that came with past seasons for you.
Oh woow that is so cool !! Ty
PNR easy for me last night, 61 of 63 statues, 164
entry, lost ab 25ish to frame drops
Advice for PNR:
- bring recharge pots (minimum of 2)
- sit at the shrines to recharge quicker (especially if you're a tall skid), it also helps avoid shards as well
- the exposed shrine in stage 2, it's easiest if you move side to side of the shrine to recharge without being struck by rocks
- run to a shrine, light it, then go grab the statues
- take your time and analyse the red lights on the ground indicating heavy shard falls
Changes: elder/king Jellyfish OOB trick is patched
I believe it's this shrine that is a huge issue regarding shards, go side to side at this one in stage 2, shards push you around so it can be an issue if you sit at this to recharge faster
First time doing eden with the new update and it wasn't too bad. My only complaint would probably be that the crawling speed is a bit too slow. Went in with 149 WL and lit up 59 statues and got 14 AC overall, which is usually what I get every eden run I do, but it definitely took longer than when I did it before the update was released.
First time going in live, I think I actually did pretty good. Went in with 167 and I think only missed the last statue, will see soon
Hello. I hope this is the right place for my question. 
I am a moth, but I've explored pretty much every map and trials, except the Eye of Eden. I have 71 WL only.
Is it enough to survive? 
crawling is so annoying, even if I did end up getting around the same statue amount as I would have before all eden changes it's so aggravating GDHSJ
Correction, you lit 56, 59 is just short of 15
you can't survive eden, but you can try your best to save as many statues as you can.
if it's your first time go when you feel ready to, so that the experience is more engaging and emotional
You haven't gotten all the wings, you're missing seaosnal area winged light. Without doing eden, the max you can get is 95ish? You get 10 in eden
That adds up, if I hadn't had frame drops I'd have gotten all of them with 164 (exl trials and two I lost pre eden)
True.
Eden you don't exactly need to go and get all the statues but the more statues you light, the better AC reward you get, which you need for the likes of resize potions, Ascending spirits for more winged light etc
Be careful if you reach this statue I will warn you that much
bro that was Rough
That's what I thought. I'm excited, and freaking out the same time lol 
Yes, I am trying to get the Chibi mask, which requires the Eden candles
Uh, guess I should not go in now. Thank you for the advice! I shall return when I am ready! 
Why does every statue have back problems /j
!er
The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
Next reset happens <t:1657436400:F> (In 6 days 18 hours 9 minutes 8 seconds)
Did you know you can use the !edenreset or !er command in my DMs? Shorter cooldown there too.
yooo it wasn't that hard tho
take little more time but it's easier than before 
Anyone has been able to save all statues with 140-150 wings (or less), after the update?
The pants look cool in orbit
Me with the bestie
It resets weekly amd can be done as many times as you want to, take your time and rush in when youre ready

The Cape
Wait, what is the red light in eden, is it supposed to protect from rock rain?
At the final wave of PNR? That's where the red rock will fall the hardest iirc
Was oobing when I found some classic place beautiful in a new way
I sent too many pictures but hey me and my friend in eden ❤️
I think at this point it’s impossible for me to continue without crawling the rest of the way
The rain never stops😢
3 zones 💀
Yep 
Wow I was over here thinking it only had 1
That is correct
I'm surprised that stage 3 isn't full of heavy rain, but it's like a slightly light stage 2, weird... But it's kinda good at the same time.. then again, probably because we have low wing counts huh?
Just went through eden today, helped a moff too, poor guy, if i didn't go with em, they would've died before even getting to the gate to pnr ;-;
aight so my input on new eden change. I went in with 173 winglight (max winglight i can get rn) and died just at the end of the sand dunes part. So those last 3 statues will prolly never be possible to get.
i also noticed, that i lost more than one winglight at a time, EVEN though i got near zero. I think that needs to be adjusted. I get losing a ton of winglight at once when you have 173, etc, but bruh, shouldn't it have lessened down when you're at a lower number? idk man. the winglight vanished so fast x_x
i prolly could've gotten further if i was alone, cause i risked my winglight to help the moff when they got hit
poor guy
i went with 190 and managed to get all of them but i did go with two friends and we helped each other recharged the whole way so it probably is possible in my experience at least
im back in eden rn to double check and i did get everything
that guy already struggled with 2nd part of eden, little dude lost winglight fast. When we got to pnr, they basically followed me and stuck close by, so it was nice that i was able to help em get all the statues in the 1st half
but yeah its gonna be a whole trip and a half for the moths 😭
You do in fact have to go in twice to get every statue, the last ones over the dunes aren’t possible and I had 165 and my friend with 186 lights so like
Plus we both only got 13/14 candles and we had every statue besides the very last one
yeah ngl i might not bother lol
also am happy that the rest spot is still there, there's a rest spot that my friend and i go to in the chaos half
though the chaos half is now split into 2 parts, if that makes sense
it's like, the one spot where you dont get hit, and there's no water either
i could point it out on a map if y'all want, for future note
I wouldn't call it impossible, it's still being tested/experimented with since it looks really rng at times. I only missed the very last statue with 160 something and I've seen some say they got every single one
though, gotta have a light lamp to put down/recover potions
yeah maybe if i didn't have the moff, i would've gotten em all, but, i dont really care, that moff needed help lol
poor guy
that poor moff dude would've gone in pnr all alone, at that, the dude already struggled with the 2nd section of eden, actually 1st section too. Poor dude
It’s not impossible but it’s certainly a lot of work just to get all the statues, the crawling feature is fine but you HAVE to make sure you don’t get hit at all. Like you have to be super careful
yeah x_x which is pain. why i'm glad i stored up on ac before this change lol
Which I mean is fine just I’m used to having a bit of give room getting hit by accident and such or when you’re really tall you tend to get hit even in the safe zones sometimes
But I suppose the new stuff from shattering will also be giving ascended candles I heard but I’d rather just do Eden
yeah D:
i'm one of those people that enjoys doing eden every week
also when i say every week, i legit go every week
for like..hh...ngl i dont know how long i've done that
i wanna say since at least last christmas
I’m fine with Eden every week, I do it with my friend and have been since February
yeah i usually go with my friend but they've been more busy with life recently so been going more on my own lol
I also went by myself every week since I’d say last summer but my friend has been joining for a long while jow
but i've gone to eden so much that like, i'm pretty good with going solo
It’s also just fun to talk in orbit with them and chill
I like going sometimes to practise music completely by myself
There’s also the fact no one what so ever can join and you have full access to your instruments
imagine if like...i thought of this recently, orbit being where all the spirits go when they ascend, imagine them bringing all of those spirits to orbit and we see them all hanging out and socializing
Plus without the music it’s just nice to chill
That would be amazing tbh
Or see past memories of spirits or seasons when you’re flying
yeah
Though it’s nice the way it is right now as well
also i shared this before, little fun fact
you know when you arrive to orbit
and all the winglight goes up to the sky
you look up and it's all sparkly
that sort of thing?
fun fact, i flew up there before, and if you get close to it, it's actually like when you collect winglight, what the little fragment looks like
if that makes any sense
like, up close, you see the blue and orange
that thing
Oh yeah
I did that once
My friend and I rocketed up there and it was just a bunch of little winged lights it was pretty too. Everything was pink and orange
I think I sent pics here of it
Yeah here aksjkajs
I think we spent next to an hour exploring and breaking boundaries
Though a new thing about Eden I will say, there’s way more places that you can actually crash into or land on which I don’t think happened before hand. Which is nice but also not because I kept bonking into a crap ton of stuff
just did eden after crawling update, got 13 candles not too bad
heres a pretty picture of orbit
I led 2 moths in the eden normal route
One of them went afk at the rim of the krill pipe
What happened to eden, i heard that the new system (where you crawl) makes eden harder
They fixed it?
We weren't friends so I couldn't drag them around
The crawling makes you move so slow and now you lose more wl per red rock hit at the same number of wl right before the hit
What the... Thanks for the info 💀
Is it just me or the music in pnr, especially towards the end of the endless rain seems to have changed a little bit?
We yelled about dying too slow once, now we're yelling about dying too fast...
Is there no equilibrium here? 
Well, what they've done is change eden in a way that the hits take a lot more damage. But they also released this at the same time as the crawling. They didn't really test that middle ground of a changed eden with the previous damage system
is back oob still works?
the one you reject pnr question?
Damn, just did Eden with two friends (added at the door) and it SUCKED
Also, no jumping during the dark/light child reunion was painfully slow.
the way you cant use emotes to fall slighty faster was painful too 😭
Damnnn guys I just went to Eden and it was hard
They did us really dirty 😱😱😱😱😱
We lose more WL and move slowly … my friend and me were like WHATTTTT
anyone else feels like quitting after they introduced || crawl feature in eden, it gets worse in red rock showers area|| and that means i have to go 2-3 times a week and i feel like thats so much farming..
Ones that died hugging each other is kinda bleak
I did most with a ton of recharge spells and 150 levels to begin
And a friend as well
Am annoyed tho so hard
Recharge spells are the most necessary things ever now
that sucks.. i went with a friend we both had around 120 ish wings
A few things I've learned from my first time after the update
mind you, i am a chill sky player so after they made a big update on eden, i really am not feeling it anymore
I promised a moth I’d guide them through eden only to be met unexpectedly with this
I had to explain I am no longer an expert guide
“Hey just follow me!” * instantly dies*
omg yeah before pnr, i went with about 4-5 people
few of them lost lights, so i went to relight them
and i also ended up losing light.. so annoying
Someone warned me this feature was coming a few weeks back and I didn’t believe them
also after you lose light, do you continuously keep losing wings?
i saw it on youtube, i didnt believe they'd introduce something like that.. well because eden was already kinda difficult before
yeah been there lost them like fireworks
i wonder how moths will go past it.. 
Yes, your character gonna crawl when you ran out of light
I hate that.
I just got out of there😂
I don’t plan on going past pnr for awhile
😀
Haha, if you have ascended candle, you don’t need to go there
I have 26, which I hope lasts long enough
I have 3..
I just had to encourage a moth to go past pnr, I hope they’re okay :(
😦
Oh no, new eden not really friendly to moth
yeah :(
I actually like new eden 🥺 …finally some challenge
For veterans is alright, but for moths that’s nightmare
I guess😬
Haha, all the best to moths
nooo I was helping two people since they kept falling and losing winged light
they left I think :(
yeah..
also kinda feels more peaceful when you just are crawling and losing wl instead of being yeeted to the ground every 5 seconds in the last area
Indeed! It was more frustrating always getting yeeted trying to stand up again~
yes! it now is at least feels more better trying to move at those areas
isnt the crawling like really slow
It’s slow but more peaceful than getting yeeted and not getting up on ur feet
yeahh
much much better from spamming the jump button and honking
buff performance moth reporting in! (we both started on 24/4/22)
i went to eden as chibi with my tall friend (size 2) that i had warp with, our wl count are 157(my max) and his 102 (not max but he lazy). the whole trip took 1 hour, about 20 mins longer than usual. im leading with prior knowledge of crawling/new eden from beta, i brought fire brazier, and a pnr map (said map:||https://twitter.com/Lusciniaakahige/status/1542547826491609090/photo/2||)
in the 1st map, i chibi fell past the 5 light gate, took the safe no boulder path then climbed up, was very slightly harder due to wind but okay otherwise.
in the 2nd map, watched the 2 entrance cutscenes, chibi fell and flew into the pnr cave as usual. friend retrieved wl just fine, same for tall me (size 3) after the run.
in pnr, we got all statues before the last lantern/continuous rock rain. i didnt get downed until that point, but my friend crawled 4 times; once from wrong timing at occasional rock rain, immediately warped back to me), 3 times from being pushed and hit by rocks while staying at the last lantern for around 4 mins (he didnt move much until bonked lol), i walked over to relight. in total he mustve lost 10-20wl, that last lantern is very 💀 for tall skids lmao.
i was able to reach the 3rd last statue after the sand dunes before dying, but i missed 2 other statues. getting 59/63 statues; 14.75 ac. i did try 1 recharge potion during it but not behind cover and immediately wasted it. he reached the sand dunes but couldnt get the last 4 (idk which else he missed), got 12 ac so 48/63 statues.
ending thoughts: although i could get all statues with 150+wl before and it was less time consuming, we like new eden and its structured better (with at least 1 friend). though we're never going to eden solo ever again.
conclusion: just go to new eden with a friend u unlocked warp with, a map, more pain tolerance, more time, and it'll be fine. gl if you dont have a friend or youre a moth tho.
Jumping gets you knocked down more, you could simply walk it and you'd be faster.
yeah, but y’know to get up from knocked down
Medium honk instantly got you up.
yeah, tbh for me i cant really do it thatquick lol
If you were stuck in place, stop moving.
Then move again.
But this is the new update, crawling. So good luck.
I was on the dune but accidentally swiped and exited out of the app. my save point was all the way in the back and I had to try and make it back to where I was with 17 wl left. I didn’t even make it over it💀💀
I still have yet to go through new Eden, I am just adventuring through helping others and usually just testing my skills and abilities to save others.
By that I mean point of no return.
I saved a moths two wings before the first pipe (before the tower) and then I watched them run ahead and get the krills attention
im thinking of just going to the PNR and leaving Im getting a headache
Did my first (and worst) eden run since the update. My game crashed right when I lost my last star, upon reloading I got softlocked on the way to Orbit and kept voiding out. Had to restart the game twice before I could finally get reborn!
little moffy went onwards to pnr
Am I the only one who hasn't struggled with Eden?
no
but I hate the new update bc when you are out of light you walk soo slow so you lost even more light
so if you are alone it's rlly horrible
yes sorry I just don't have a lot of vocabulary it's not my first language
No worries, all good 😊
I hate the new Eden 
me too but just when I lost all the light
Also got some fun wishing die to random players
in the last phase it's just horrible
Doing solo on eden might be a bad choice
why ToT
Is the crawling rlly that slow?
yes rlly
I couldn't continue because they were there
not always but sometimes when you get a head shot
oh i see ahah
Yeah, now the eden have more covers and the light statue
You missed the Prince being colorful
Bruh 5 per hit???
I had like 184 and got 14 AC
If you go to almost the end, you have to crawl for your life
me too but at the last phase of the eden it's impossible
😂
: '(
184 wl still can’t reach the end?
Why TGC did that?
I KNOW
I didn't expect the new Eden, I'm not updated. It surprised me
Bruh WUT
184wl and still can’t reach end???
Maybe with awareness
And I just wanted to finish lol
yeah but crawling made me lose more wings than the usual where i would walk in a zig zag pattern
I just have 157, I missed the last one statue
Also I landed well
🤡🤡🤡
Lol, just buy wing buff you good to go
I wonder how people do to have so much wl I only have 121
cool pose
Idk, buff wl from normal spirits and too many ts
Haha, i did met someone have that outfit just like that
When i go eden to get the wl
Maybe it was me
I don't even know what's the difference between buff light and normal one I don't even know how they look-
I just come back from Eden
Usually i use kakashi hair and troupe greeter
Even constellation have wing buff
Mmm nope, I don't think that was u
I loved the new route after dead
wing buff is the lock on constellation and ts you are ||reborn|| with them automatically btw
I do hate when you die, you can’t jump to the white kid
But rock storm was awfull and annoying
😂
There are actually 105wl in all realms including eden and trials
Wing buffs are the locks on a spirit's friendship tree, they cost Ascended candles. By buying them, you get extra wl (1 per each lock purchased) when you leave orbit.
ooooooooh I didn't knew it was called that ty
Today I brought two wing buff cost 9 ac, another is cost 12 ac
And I have 79 extra wl from wing buffs and ts 
😂

wt-
Has anyone been able to light the last lantern in the endless rain without having to use a recharge potion?
Anyone want one
me pls
I'm a dreams moth darlin
Haha
tgc made it so difficult i thought players with nearly 200 wings could get 15 ac but no 

yea
I think rn you just can get 14 ac
AAAAAHH

👁️ 👄 👁️ oh ok
15 probably is pretty hard to reach
Isn't that beta content?
It is lol
It depends on how much damage you take before the endless rain i think? I went in with 167 and only missed the last statue
😂
Yay😭😭😭 I don’t know why this show up in live
🐛 ❔
I’m in live and it showed up
so thought it was not beta anymore
Maybe a bug or it's on purpose
Wait, the season haven’t started yet
it's in 9 days
We only have a week to SoS
This update came with a lot of bugs, players are already encountering this stuff doing regular gameplay things 
TGC always give a small sneak peek for the next season some days it actually starts...like the assembly entrance or flight portal
Yikes
tgc wants to kill me with this event + ts+ season
Haha, ts came on 7th
I get used to it
Most ppl already broke after days of rainbow
i had about 120 gonna take me a while to reach that number.. i was able to avoid damage before the rain but after, it was a disaster 
but I thought season were like 2 weeks appart or more
Not me, I just bought pants because I had cape and tassel from last year
I brought everything
Except tassel 😂
I need hearts for anniversary stuff 🤣
Lol
on my birthday : D
I do get interested on the confetti launcher
Wish it's a good one
🤣
I want the yeti
I just realised I came back with 8 wings
Yeti is expensive though
how much-?
200+ candles i think
it's ok I spared a lot of candles
Yeti visited china server, search some videos
Was it anything with the new mechanics out there?
I compiled a list of tips n such for dealing with, i don't know if it works for others but it's things i figure out for my runs
Yeah, I just bought the mask and levels 2 and 4
but.. I didn't buy days of rainbows cosmetics yet bc I don't want to be broke again : (
Here^
Couldn't get them because they were ap only
Pants and cape is just so cool
You look nice with this pants
Idk, some said is a expensive one
I'm so upset bc I wanted the pants so bad but I only got 69 candles and the ts reset was in 1 min
so I brought the cape : ''' ((
My first ts was grandpa
I remember TGC being evil..... because juggle came when sword pants were available (they costed 200 candles and not coming back)
Yup
Everyone was so broke
😂
I brought sword pants and I think it'sugly ToT
You had only ONE chance to get them tho
I remember saving for days of feast and I could Buy everything (except IAP cosmetics) the first day
I love them
Yes I always wear ox mask, since I was a lil moth
idk why I just can't love this pant for some reason
You can Flex that You have the most expensive cosmetic from sky on your closet
really hoping we get cheap ts for july
they know we're spending a lot this month... and we don't even know what august events will be
...but then again, my hopes aren't high considering tgc are announcing an iap with +115 candles for sale soon..
true but I can't do a good outfit with this pants
shush come home 
They don't care, TGC showed this giving us peeking postman just before rainbow
I have the same problem with the rainbow cargo
Can't argue with that, I can match it with rainbow cape or black cape
As an old player I have many options so I don't mind at all
well I'm broke since the rainbow days
hmm something something those ts aren't really picked randomly, are they? as much as they claim it i think we have some reason to doubt 
it's been 1 year now that I have sky but I guess I'm just bad at this game somehow
They are not picked randomly, they showed this last year during days of summer.....the spirit from sanctuary with sunglasses came as a ts
they want to kill us with cr
I wouldn't be surprised if yeti comes one week before days of feast
They want us to Buy candle packs, they need to eat too
well to bad for them I'm broke
i've just been assuming at least 200 candles per ts when doing calculating for how much i'll have at the end of the month 
Are u my assistant?

i was hoping i'd finish wasteland over the summer but the events are pretty costly in hearts as well. i've been sitting at enough for black cape but i don't want to get until i know we're in the clear with heart expenses
I have some info about the new season and You are not gonna be happy. I Will let You figure it out when it comes
I already got all the spoilers but maybe we need heart for something idk
Also I could completed My last constellation which is vault long time ago but not a fan of that weird gift
oh
@shrewd snow
tyy
Always think the same.
Or probs it was "random" from ts who has same candle count
Maybe like
"Next week we put 200 ts. Theres yeti, other dreams, jugglesr, etc.
Now oreo u pick one"
I wonder what is this mean?
Srry for ping santi
No problem, I don't mind
any guesses for abyss season ts? 
Too early for that, maybe a Prince or flight ts could be possible but not from abyss
really wanted some capes from that season guess we wait
I want
cape
I just want the cape, looks like cosmic manta
Wait wrong spiirt lol
Assembly one with green bow hair prettty
Do You mean the one with green and yellow cape?
..... cant rmmbr the cape
Uuuuuh yes maybe... yesny
Idk

Only knows the hair from some skids ingame
@agile bobcat do You mean this?
Just 2 ss from today cause we had the messiest eden run lol
Yhah?

Yea the vrawling rlly looks like croathjces!!
Or some hurt kitten imo
I find it funny. Rather than annoying (if someone was crawling beside my eyes after i dead)
Not funny if im the one crawling duh
Lost 2 winged lights in the process of helping an army of moths. In the end all but one went in. After trying encouraging this moth with their friend, their friend went in and the moth that refused to go in went home and cried.
I tried to comfort them, but I lost them as I looked away for a minute.
It's getting harder..
My big brain self absorbed much more damage because a instant recharge potion healed me to full and I took more hits up to pnr acting as a body shield to the moths.
I also did a 200 IQ move by protecting a moth about to get krilled by putting my prop in front of where they were about to get hit.
So I unintentionally went afk in Hidden Forest. Lost almost 20wL until one kind skyKid went honking around me. (Thank u fren)
This is a veryyy good excuse to to try the new Eden, right ?
Might as well, you'll likely have to go through Eden again at some point in the future anyway, so it would maybe be good to try to get a feel for it and then you can recollect your winged lights I suppose
Is it better to go tall or short in eden? Cuz ik the tall ver can do bigger jumps but can’t run or move very quickly.
Right now I am normal size (not into pnr yet will go later) and wondering if I should use any height change spells?
I'm like average size and I don't usually have too much trouble in Eden, so I think that's probably fine. Too tall and too short can both have some drawbacks if you're not as comfortable with the controls (chibis can get stuck and blown back more easily, tall can be more exposed to the rocks in some spots)
20 wl oh honk i would do eden out od spite
my skykid is almost max height, and i can confirm that while crossing gaps or moving quickly is easier, i also need to sit or lie down to avoid being slammed by rocks in the earlier parts, even with cover
I am almost max height and never do eden chibis.
Well eccept if i forgot to take off the mask before entering
True that. Need to sit at pnr to hide
it was a honking blessing when i found out i could lay down to almost always avoid rocks, but ill still get hit if im too far from the intended cover
i havent tried running eden as a chibi, but i considered it after the disaster that was the post-update run i had saturday with two of my friends
...although i normally dont play as a chibi, so i think any movement speed going down or inability to cross gaps like usual would really mess me up 😭
Honestly I’m pretty short (not chibi height though) in sky and I almost never get hit
however I see a lot of really tall players get hit
Would anyone be willing to help me? I’m completely stuck in Eden and it’s basically the beginning. 😅
I can probably take you to the point of no return, but after that it'd be up to you to finish ^^
And they where roommates
historians say they were best friends
Anything but lovers </3
Should I just go into Eden as normal heigh then-
so did anyone else do an eden run after the last update and then immediately go to the live feed back channel to tell tgc that it’s a BAD idea or was it just me?
When you are familiar with the map the update doesn't make it harder at all.
but what about new players dude? This is gonna discourage them
When i was a new player Eden was hell even without the update.
In my opinion eden and wasteland discourage new players no matter what.
Yeah but now it’s even worse because you can barely move
I still love sky and tgc but I don’t think this was a good decision on their part
When you get knocked out you can continue crawling without getting hit again and falling,so in the long run it's better because you just move slowly,instead of wasting a ton of time getting up everytime you get hit.
I adopted a moth in eden before the update and they freaked out instantly after they got knocked out and had to continue going without having any place to hide.
Now there are some places to hide in the 3rd section of pnr.
So let's just agree to disagree at this point,because I won't change my opinion on this 
Footage of me having a seizure with the crawl feature (also hitting my head on the cement wall in my room for the 3rd time offscreen) 
#removecrawlfeature2022
#letourvoicesbeheard
#thisiswhatdemocracylookslike (?)
#itisabigdeal
me and my bf went to eden today
got absolutely slaughtered by the rocks
ascended, and agreed that it was fun
but decided to never do it again
orbit was fun though
You lose lights so quickly now 😔 
Is this what democracy looks like? THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE! 
I went and lowered my rating of sky on the appstore because of this new update. Idk if that’s too harsh but I feel like it’s going to cause a lot of problems
Let your voice be heard
Voices since the beta testing of this feature has not been taken to note
So do whatever you can to make a change
TGC apparently doesnt like free speech on its marketing
Its a miniature isolated hypocrisy within a free state 
straight facts dude
The red rocks kept knocking me everywhere
It’s HARD
And if not for my friend I would’ve been crawling so much earlier
IN ONE GO I LOST LIKE 6
I didn’t remember it being that damaging??
I lost a whopping 15 wl in two hits 
New player here, started 4 days ago. I don't know much, but I know Eden was difficult. I lost lots of light getting to the statues, and was very discouraged about that. Once I reached the statues, I enjoyed the message about sacrificing myself to let the others go. I am excited to gather my light again and make my way to the top once more. Now that I know, I enjoy it much more. (Still dislike wasteland tho)
I’m sorry, I didn’t see this. I just finished. That was hard!! Thank you for the offer. 🥰
no worries!
I just went to Eden adter the update and in total i lost like 25 of my 106 wl 🫠💀
I was nearly liek i give up
Hate the crawl feature
Windows think everyone dislikes wasteland 😂
I just don't like going back through to get more candles each day
I play because it's ultra relaxing
does that wing buff count include the orbit wl? (as in the one you get when you walk through the gate to rebirth)
I have no idea how it happened but i got 35 wing buffs, prolly should only have around 30
BRO I SEE WHY Y’QLL HATE THE UPDATE NOW, I THOUGHT THE CRAWLING WOULD ONLY BE AT THE VERY VERY END BUT BRO ITS IMPOSSIBLE
YES
At least, like, speed up the crawling a smidge!!
I couldn't make it to the zone 3 wth...
i brought 144 wl :"D
tgc why did you make this update? 😦
not fun.
😢😢
Hey are you guys getting hit by rocks through walls?
yes
We couldn’t even make it up to the last patrolling krill
Couldn’t hide from the rocks
Kept getting hit through things
We also got hit by a red crystal from like a foot away
Its so bad
It’s unplayable honestly
It’s awful
Mm its a bad feature that needs to be adressed
We're lucky in that we recently got all the WL boosts we could from spirits so far, but like... Whatabout moth-moths? like,, 🥺
and were not done with like, cons, its just all we can buy for now
To the person that I saved in the first lying rocks right out of the gate, that was loosing light and then said no to me saving you... I hope you're okay dude. IDK what you were doing... But damn
ID BE HIDING BEHIND A ROCK AND THE ROCKS WOULD SLAM ME EVERYWHICH WAY
YEAh we were in like, one of the safest spots, all huddled together andgot TOTLED
Bonk
IT DIDNT MAKE SENSE
But somehow my friend didn’t get slammed everywhere unlike me
Only me lol. The rocks hate me. Eden hates me
Very very rude
Eden is just awful
i was so excited too, cos i wanted the drama of crawling to the statues
I honestly love the changes. The crawling is faster than running and getting knocked over.
Okay but like not the crawling
Crawling is not the issue
It’s the getting hit through walls
EXACTLY they need to fix it
I would like Eden to be a challenge of skill, not a challenge of Will plz
yeah it seems like fewer spots are safe
Like I’m standing behind a rock taller than me with one of the lanterns and suddenly I’m knocked away
I find people usually get knocked away if they’re not standing close enough
I havent gotten hit through walls more than before. For me it was worse before actually.
Firstly, you’re delusional /hJ
Secondly, crawling is just SO SLOW, slower than regular walking, which makes you more vulnerable with being hit with red crystals
Meanwhile with the old days without the hell update, you get knocked out, and just. 🚶.back to where you last stood
getting knocked over wasn’t so bad since you could just do a midway honk to pop back up
I wasn’t even getting knocked over in old Eden? Walking through the endless rain
Unless I was chibi
But like? Regular size? Tall?
I was fine
Just walk
I got knocked out when I was tall, but it didnt bother me as much
Yeah, if I was knocked over it was pretty rare but like
This is unbearable
Shouldn’t be getting knocked over and losing 5 light through a safe spot wall
Literally right up against it
Also, a few of my winged light got launched into a place blocked by an invisible wall?
So even if I was able to run and collect em
I couldn’t get them back
It was really annoying
Uhh if yall need an uber... I'm going there ( ik this could be in looking for group, but just saying)
THIS TOO
Whenever you get knocked out with the update
You loose like an average of 3-7 wl 
Yeah it seems like we lose a lot more light
Yes
Its literal 🐝s
I honestly dont understand how people like the crawl feature
I cant think of a logical reason at all
Other than being delusional
Hell
yeah, I don’t mind crawling but it’d be cool if it was tweaked
never tried to oob glitch. There’s a patch of missing ground I accidentally fell into though if that counts
Oh I’ve done it before, it’s crazy
I mean more
Can we skip/jump to the glowy guy
That we hug
Or do they make us walk the whole way now
If I remember correctly I had to walk
Ive actually been randomly flown into an oob area once
In the beginning of the eden map 
Thats how bad it is
area I accidentally fell into
I didn’t care for oob wheh I first tried it and it was a bit stressful but
Less stressful than the run I just did that we abandoned
Like a third of the way in
I’m used to climbing the new eden already, it’s just less forging if you’re hit
I think it’s real bad game deisgn to make Eden unbearable and also
Make it so now you have to go through multiple times
The design was purposefully made to feel like hell
But you can still walk in the biblical hell
Because its torture
If you crawl
You get tortured more
Before this, it was a contrast to first half of eden being scary but, you went through it and it made you like, a little brave? like you had this? before second part rips out your soul
I feel like now it's just. Pain, always. I'd love more pain and hardship in the second half od eden, sure, it's SUPPOSED to be this like, trying too help but being helpless yorueslef
but being helpless from start to finish Suuuucks
Eden was ready hard in itself before
But the new update made it
Uh
Not just Hell
But that feeling when your purposefully hold something hot untill you burn your skin up until your epidermis
Yeah, it was "easy" after 3-4 times jsut because i'd done it that many times. I cant imagine moths coming into this
They would quit immeadiately
it was still not without hiccups just because i was used to the patterning
I mean, I would
Feel like they gotta raise the minimum winged light requirement
20 is like
Two hits
Won’t get any candles
After that
Also speaking of which, I saw a moth just disappear/supposedly reborn after being krilled in the 3rd zone of eden 
Oof
I see plenty of discourse on the pain of Eden, but is there any knowledge of a new statues map? The wiki one is out of date now
Eden Map (0.18.0) | BATTM
#eden-spoilers message
🙏 very lowvly map
Iv been stuck as a spirit wondering around a couple of strangers after Eden. It’s been 10 minutes and I STILL can’t continue on😭😭😭
I just witnessed someone lost more than 5 wl in a second when they were crawling 😭
Sounds about right
Has anyone else had the problem of hiding behind something and still getting damaged by redstone anyway?
Yep
You’ll also get hit by rocks
Even if you’re hiding
Standard rocks I mean, seems like they can phase through things rn
10th Eden run
Exactly ! Horrible trash update ! Crawl & at cave dust rock wind rain & the krill get you easier then even it was before. Also, it is doable to be safe, but the crawl at eye is the most terrible plus for that spots I just mentioned as well.
That's easy if you know how to fly right on that oobs & good flyer on the clouds recharging. I am not so I can't get this oobs. Idk if ever will. With them doing this crawling like no point going through Eden.
I did my 10th Eden run
Oh my gosh yes. One hit I lost like 6 wl or something
And then the fact that the red rocks go thru the walls too 🤡 at least that’s what happened with me. I was crouched right behind the tall rocks but somehow I still got knocked around
How to a this food. Idk. Heck no way !
You need to go with friends that teleport. They should have to open with u & somewhat skilled at Eden that can't recyrw u. Crawl to safety behind a rock a bit away from Krill & try honking teleopting. I forgot exactly how I did it. I got hit cuz trying to save the other 2 friends. I was safe at cave after got hit by krill when was taken safely by our leader. I couldn't be a hero before muchless now.
Yes. Be careful. We try not to be close to them as b4 update.
did the number of max ascended candles change
Yes I did to but just try to crawl to one right bottom side & don't move once safe enough then start honking for friend if they can get to cave just stand a bit outside from out of kills harm way & tp. I wish I had a video. Darn. The eye at rain cuz crawl was way brutal as well. I could only get 9ac & not many statues as I could b4 update. Then they make friendship upgrade 10 ac & other it's on boat shoppe & you have to go more to Eden. It isn't fair. They are merciless !
how many wl did you go in with?
143 cuz wb & had gone to caves b4 that after the prior Eden 2 weeks ago. This new eden has me so confused cuz of the hit I got. I picked 1 up then the cave on outside it, etc gave me back 1 so I went in the eye w/142 I think. Cuz wb from going to Eden, TS, wb from regular spirits I finished getting from few Edens ago or like 2 b4 that one then the update run through, plus Eden caves made it 143. I can't wait till have 145. Maybe with the new TS ones this month I will get it.
Exactly. The most I ever got was 12 like 2 or so ones ago. The rest on my 1st time was 4 or 7, not sure, & now 9. Last was 12 & most ever. I had 5 once I think. Never 11 or 15 like I had hoped. I have 57 saved now. I have only been a few times to it since I came back to Sky in Feb. I was only on last yr from June till July. I left in August. I died once in Forrest I think cuz new then taken to Eden. I only went once b4 update. Glad I did. I was ok at it. The pipes took me forever to not fall,, etc I kept teleporting hom & back & almost could have gotten hit at krill. I had to hide behind rocks & try to go fast to the pipes. I'm sad I never got to learn to do it on my own some more or practice to get better at that spot. After that is not so bad except for the wl cane dragon, blwhich is doable, bit now it's totally or even more horrible. More brulltal. The most brutal it was pretty much b4, but now it harder if u get hit.
I always take the shortcut glitch route to avoid all of that krill stuff
Is anyone else having trouble with the timing of the rocks in the last area (previously the constant rain area)? I'm ok with all the sections in front but somehow the last section felt very random to me. There are pauses in the rock rain but I can't seem to predict which area it rains down on.
But oh boy.lll if they ever patch that glitch……
Well damn...
the rocks sporadically rain down from the front, and there's a red light that shows where more heavy red rocks are going to land (it's mapped out below)
Eden Map (0.18.0) | BATTM
#eden-spoilers message
Hmm ok I did see the red light but didn't know why sometimes the rocks are telegraphed by the light and sometimes not. I'll keep that in mind next run 
Do i have to go to orbit to buy elder hair
Just went through the point of no return and am ascending now with a friend. Let me just say my own thoughts:
This new Eden felt more easy than the actual old one that I struggled a bit with.
There was an indication of where the endless rock rain began.
There was good cover, however I wasted an instant recharge potion or two to be instantly extinguished, so I felt scammed there. I feel the need to add invisibility frames for 3 seconds at least.
Crawling was painful but more emotional to see, and I am going to see how much AC I earned now.
I got 14 ascended candles.
i agree with the uselessness of the instant recharge potions 
out of curiosity - how much wl did you bring w you to eden?
I... forget exactly.
I didn't get knocked down hardly much because I observed much more than ever than I did with old Eden.
I think I brought 158.
0-0
Reborn with 56 winged lights.
Yeah. I started around Abyss. It's hard to believe how far I've come..
January this year.
Abyss, Performance, and soon... Shattering.
Ooog mine is 57 or 60 ish?
Hmmmm
i reborn with 75
started at the last days of sanctuary season ehe
I reborn with 20
i wonder how soon some old veteran guy would get to 200 wingpower

Anyone had the issue where it won't let you ascend to Orbit after dying? You just keep falling down and voiding out by the 'flying castle' area
restart ur game
I had to restart the game twice to actually get to Orbit 😦
Yeah, it took me falling all the way down and then flying back up through the birds/wings only. It sucked.
I have 74 wing buffs rn so I reborn with 8 wedges
Started before the start of prince season
What’s the recommended amount of wl to have when u enter eden?
as many as you can
Any tips on how to do this part more effectively?? I lost like 70 wls cause i kept getting hit 
so i just went through eden with 137 wl and got 61 statues. it wasn't that bad except for the fact that the crawling is so slow

the new position of these statues is really heartbreaking
the two statues hugging

Wait theres 2?? 
I was panicking so hard throughout all of eden/trying not to die/trying not to lose 10wl per hit that I completely forgot about the sad of the positions of the statues
Anyways I was wondering if you could use the instant recharge potion even when reduced to crawling?
I haven't tried it myself but I watched a video from a YouTuber named Noob Mode that did exactly this, tried instant recharge but mentioned it did nothing much if you are already swarmed by the crystal rain but if you're asking if it works, yes it does.
Not entirely sure, others may have a different answer or if it has been changed. 
Oo how curious.. i was collecting wings and decided to check this out (i've been hearing about it but i didn't know where to look. Mural scavenging hunt hehe
)
you can’t sky made it ridiculously harder
idk id this is included with the Eden season
but fr looks like an Eden Krill
look how monstrous it is
idk tbh
eden spoilers i think,, but i’m wondering whos in the middle, the spirit or elder with the winged cape, looks like a woman—
the two elders in the shop that roam around freely, doesn’t look like they know who the person in the middle of the painting is
Isn’t our ancestor in journey’s?
idk tbh 😭
i haven’t seen journy fr
😔
i need to watch the full story gameplays of Journey
so i can understand the other games Lore
if Sky is connected to Journey 😔 idk
also hidden spirit-
😂 it look like it when you look at the design of the cap, head and height
but you can’t get through until 6 days left until Eden season 😔
LMAO ik
Hihi
ive seen some people cosplay as Journey characters(?)
(?)
Yeah it’s cool
ye
lmao ye
pretty 😔
so in new Eden how many statues we have ?
Just finished an Eden run and I’m 😭 Went in with almost 120 wl and got 9 ascended candles. I definitely lost around 20 wl on that slope before the point of no return alone. I like the visuals of the crawling with the blue crystals but slfjrksjsjfh it’s so SLOWWW. That slope kept going dark and I couldn’t see myself or my dropped wing bits.
What’s Eden season?
Does anybody else find themselves hanging out in Eden to light people who were extinguished, uber them unharmed to pnr more these days since the update?
I think this is just a bug where sometimes you can find the abyss king krill model chilling in the water way out. I've seen it a few times on tiktok
Make very short bursts and have patience in timing. Don't try to sprint all the way to the next statue if there's a rock to take shelter along the way. If you memorize the timing between rock showers and wait at every rock that can shield you, them you should be losing less WL that way even if it takes longer.
My strategy right now is my first Eden run of the week i don't give light until the endless rock rain so that i can get every statue in that area, and then i return later to get the ones outside endless rock rain. It takes me awhile but i typically only get hit once or twice before reaching endless rain.
@boreal totem I agree, it drags how long it takes to finish, now it really drags, no reason for all that, discourages me from even going more often.
@carmine urchin like we need to go multiple times, makes no sense.
We didn't even get to the point of no return 😔
^^
Just went again with four strangers that I saved time and time again in pnr. I felt like a true hero this time. Just needed to get 1 AC.
moths in eden 








Qheeze
Is this Journey?
Anyone noticed the weird red circle beam things moving around on the floor in the last part of Eden like weird sentries?
I tried jumping in the middle of them when they were getting close and I think they spawn more rocks on you hdtdsjkf
i thought it was a bug at first but I don't think so?
'saved'? 'pnr'?
Oh, you can gift a light to another player who lost every he had?
It is
Nice
No, but once you lost all lights and started crawling, you'll need to be lighted by others or get close to light resources to recover
That's what they said about saving other players
Okay yup I saw that mechanic, I was wondering if you could resurect another player like the statues
It took way more longer to finish an Eden run with friends, but so far it's fun
Maybe not after a few weeks
Nope not a bug!
||the lights follow a predetermined path and rock rain follows right behind it. So best to avoid it. There's a map someone posted that has the pathing it takes.||
This map (ping off)
Thats it! Ty!
Are you trying to escape eden? 
Ooooof
Did you give any light to the statues?
No
You can escape.
Let me finish this Valley race.
okay link hero of eden
the statues are like
the small children crounching in the water?
Yep
Okay so, if you have chibi mask, you can chibi fall by the Eden gate.
Shrink spell?
OK, now, chibi fall on the slope of Eden door.
That slope on the left.
how do I chibi fall
Oh.
You can, you just need to chibi fall on the right slope. It's tricky.
How to escape pnr by Tib
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/585339436322259003/848263027630276616
shoot
I am not
Hard to see.
Ah, I see now.
Yeah, attempt to chibi fall.
If done correctly, you can fly under the door, through the barrier. Go in Eden and you'll be put back in Eden's first main door.
Did it?
its not wokring
Make sure you're using the sneaky stance.
You can no longer chibi fall there. It's possible but the water underneath will send you back up. It has something to do with the diving feature and how it prevents you from staying underneath the terrain in that specific area. Happened right after the diving feature was implemented. If you're trying to exit pnr, find a slop on top of the eden gates, even the tiniest one will work if you position yourself right
Thank you toast
I think I’m just not doing the fall part right
IM DOING LIKE EXACTLY IN THE VIDEO
BUT ITS MOT WINGG
Where are you trying to chibi fall?
Omg so that's why!! Thanks !
Wait if you're on ios, looking at your roles, 2 people in QnA said they're having difficulties with chibi falling after the update. It's possible it's that
Should still be able to do it though
I’m gonna do it
The character stance matches your sentence
I hope it works better for you than it did for me
papapapap
But I got to see why everyone is afraid of this place
Forget everything
I’m going to do this thing
Good luck
Thank you
How far did you go?
I always logged out of the game when a krill spots me 😭
I accidentally went out of bounds while doing a shortcut. I see a lot of players needed help but here I am. I can't get back to the map so I redo my whole run. I feel guilty I can't help those extinguished players.💀
Okay my last hope
Will the cooldown go crazy.
YEAH I WIN!!!!
NO COOLDOWN UWU
Anyway .. f for people who do eden just now
Nooo moth dont attack me 
..... dont scare me witj you...
Really? I did it first try solo
When was it?
Saturday
It was good timing because it reset and I did again yesterday
Good for you then 😅
Is anyone able to consistently solo save all in 1 run
I think so
Wait not rwally
The last person i know do solo tyey said
They missed 3 last statue
Ig..
Thank you so much!
how many ascended candles can you get in one run?
15.75 is the maximum
wh???
yea
Like
In this run
screenshot??
ok wait
😭
thank the server errors
i've heard of people getting double the amount of ac when their game crashes, but never 16 times the maximum
do you have a screenshot? because thats a really serious glitch if youre being honest here
how in the world
yep
I MEAN THANK YOU FOR PROOF, IM JUST....WHOOF
i dont like to be that guy thats like "caps or it didnt happen" but holy moly thats a lot to take in right there
welp now I can buy height potions 😀
cant that just about max all ascended candle costs in constellations too???
i think that was 75?
ikr
:aaaahhEyes:
252 ac.....oh my lord
somewhere around 70 or 80 ac needed for just 100% completion....
dude you're set for life 😭
lol
no for real omg
ig I'll try again if glitch still works
what stage were you in when server errors started happening?
man im worried youd get in trouble for an exploit
I was like at end where you just like where spirit came and boom of ascended candles comes on screen
idk how to spell
buy all the constellations while you can, THEY CAN'T STOP US ALL
like that white door gate
hehe
naruto runs into the constellations
nice
YOU HAVE LIKE 50 CANDLES GET ONE OF THE EXPENSIVE ONES STARTED
no more eden for you
yeah for 6 months ig
imagine only ever needing to run eden once
BUT THE AC THEY MIGJT TAKE IT AWAYYYY
life 💯
nooo
Yeeeeesssss
i rly feel like thisll end up with devs interfering even if this wasnt an intentional exploit
wasn't international I was doing normal eden run after watching tutorial 💀
no i know, thats why i said even if this wasnt intentional, i know it wasnt 😭
The servers were having some issues not too long ago, I wonder if it's maybe related to that? Like some kind of server hiccup and it accidentally gave you way more than it should have
maybe
it had to be, ive had some weird stuff happen with server issues (though certainly not on THAT scale, im still in awe)
BUY BUY BUY
TS IS COMING, USE AC ON THAT OR POTIONS
how does it feel to be sky's most powerful moth
They'll take it from you any second
done
shush
How many now
i wonder what the protocol even is for smth like this
Buy those
And wait for Traveling spirit
yup 💀
They come on thursday
Id recommend you buy their wing ascension from them
TS gives you wing buff
:o ok
holy crap.. you’re set for life
:D
you never have to touch eden again..
..unless if you want to
Lord knows this won't happen until pigs fly
I personally enjoy eden but for me it’s a pain to collect winged light again
As someone with upwards of 170 wl
I know the pain
I only have like 75 right now
You'll know my pain at 100... Or 120, whichever comes first.
I plan on working on getting more wing buffs, might take awhile though
100% how to make eden emotional and not more tedious or frustrating for moths 
I have...completed all cons...and am max height...so I still do eden and spend my candles on buying bonfire spells to just...place at geyser 
Nothing else to spend on
Yoooo that is a huge number of ACs 💀 are the ACs stays or just a bug that returns your original amount of ACs?
they stayed
I bought potions and done with all constellations
Congratations you don't need to go to eden anymore lollll at least for 2 or 3 months
hehe
i wish u could donate some ac to me ;-; so i dont have to run the new eden
(but ik that can never happen so i wish to one day get that much ac as u)
sad ;-;
this poor cluster of petrified skykids D: im not sure if im a fan of new eden rn but i do like some of the environmental story telling with the new statue poses….
Oof everytime I get hit by redstone while being extinguished I lose 6 wl 
I KNOW ITS RIDICULOUS
I agree, it's so bad
I mean ig I can live with the crawling but to up the damage too??
Right? I mean, I find the crawling annoying too (cause it's painfully slow), but the amount of damage received is especially irritating
Edit: it's way too much
By the way y’all can use the tent to help shield you guys from the rocks, just don’t let go of it
Friend and I tried it out, it works
They should either up the speed of crawling or make the damage back to normal…. Both would be v nice too but I doubt TGc would do that
This ^^
They really should but you're right
Totally agreed
I second that
I personally don't really mind the changes in eden except for the speed of crawling. I lost 20 WL in a matter of a couple of seconds crawling back to a lamp during the 2nd stage
Any tips for Eden since I accidentally went in there and now idk what to do 😃
Where are you exactly
The start
When you just spawn in and you can't leave
have you already been this week and want to leave, or do you not know what to do because you've never been before?
No I mean past the top where the wing lights are, when you keep walking and it asks whether you want to leave? I'm sorry idk what it's called, the point of no return
So you are in the area with statues
Yeah I went past that and now I'm here
Ok give your winglight to as many statues as you can till you run out
Kk and then when I run out? Do I just keep going to whereever ?
I've got about 80 rn
I think you should find out on your own 
Oh ok 😭
Goodluck 
Good luck 
Good Luck
You shall need it



