dire rover
Regarding prarie,
I thought the oreo area was built so that the sky-trees where the hidden(now uncovered) sky boi is, was a secret area I could fly to if I only did it well enough.
Of course it wasn't, once you touch the second cloud level on the trees you hit the void out plane and the level resets, sometimes even before the elevator
That made me really sad
hollow compass
@floral root the hint is that it is beta, which means a testing ground for new features and bug fixes. It's not the actual game, even though it looks the same as the Live release. My motto is: don't get too attached to anything in beta.
ETA: It looks the same as Live version so that we can test it in as "life-like" a situation as possible. But if there is nothing drastically new with a season, compared to a previous one, there is no need for us to play it to completion in beta.
vapid drum
Always nice , waking up to see 650 missed messages
Took me 15 minutes to read them all
lusty light
IAP shop
hidden pivot
not in there either
or
yeah the only thing there is the seasonal pass for a friend
hidden pivot
ohh
floral root
@hollow compass Thanks for your reply. But I don't agree with you. Although it is a test, many of them require players to complete the rules step by step.
vapid briar
atipleb is pretty on the nose. Since the game is launched on a global scale, core systems don't need testing so much as new features and functionalities. Beta isn't really meant to be 100% achievable, though sometimes we leave the season running for longer.
Such as in this particular case we have to turn the season back on for the seasonal NPC to test functioning of the gift spells.
dire rover
Terrible video game companies have ruined the meaning of "beta" imo...
It used to be actual test version of the game.
Then it became demo of the game also might change some text
Now it's final version but we're calling it beta to avoid legal trouble
Meanwhile TGC is there like 
"ours is a real beta, we use it to try things"
vapid briar
Yeah, the lines have definitely blurred over the years with open/closed beta, alpha, public test realm, early access, limited live, and so on. Doubly so depending on the game/studio/publisher.
lunar zealot
I´m happy that beta is stated as beta. Makes everything a lot clearer 
Ktjn, i love your new pfp, it looks so cute 
vapid briar
(except for when android beta was called early access, we don't speak of those dark times 
)
lunar zealot
(yes, lets not speak of that 
)
vapid briar
Pines blessed me with an accurate representation of my day-to-day functions 
lunar zealot
She did! I remember you saying you wore a lot of hats around the office so i was waiting for something like that
blazing sail
Did a ton of messages get deleted from here? Hours are missing
lunar zealot
Don’t think so?
blazing sail
Mine goes from sometime last night (and my own last message is missing) and jumps to 4 hours later where it looks like it’s in middle of a conversation
blazing sail
And now it all magically showed up?
lunar zealot
Discord being wonky most likely. Sometimes it messes up searches
blazing sail
So weird
timber ridge
I deleted one of my comments from yesterday so maybe other people deleted their replies to it? And yes, it was THAT comment.
blazing sail
No it was hours worth and now they’re back.
timber ridge
So you´re finally buying the swing or what?
timber ridge
You know you will remain faithful to the game until your last breath.
Here, in 2178, after your 25686568778657 candle run.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/a949a92a0b0c298762f7b0048d7fc9ad/tumblr_ncw9e0GOE71rp0vkjo1_500.gif
dry pivot
oh my
blazing sail
The swings are now very glowy when you spawn them
The swings are the new blinding glow spell but only for yourself
Self-blinding FTW
dry pivot
mine was normal
blazing sail
Maybe it was bc it was night
But it was really bright
Yeah it’s much brighter at night
Like supercharged
timber ridge
She complained a lot about the swing yesterday. I bet TGC made hers glow as a punishment of sorts.
dry pivot
oh I get it it's bright at dark vault until i set it still
blazing sail
Posted a screenshot
timber ridge
I am super jealous of your Tron swing.
blazing sail
Lol
Wait it creates hearts when you sit on it now?
With a friend?
Saw a screenshot with a bunch of hearts around it
dry pivot
yes, but im not sure on the friend part might work with a stranger too
blazing sail
I tried with a stranger and it didn’t work
dry pivot
how long did you sit together
timber ridge
Oh, if the swing is a heart factory they could easily implement the 1000 heart Thanos gauntlet I demand.
blazing sail
Lol
dry pivot
Im swinging with your friend app I can see hearts now but the chat is broken lol
timber ridge
But the hearts are just a cosmetic thing or something that adds hearts to your meter?
rain token
Just a visual thing iker
Little hearts appear around you as you swing
Like mini versions of the kiss emote
blazing sail
It’s cute tho
rain token
Yeah it’s cute. Could be construed as a bit creepy though depending on who you’re sat with 😂
blazing sail
Lol yeah
dry pivot
now I want to try this with an unlit skykid
timber ridge
TGC: how can we make App want the swing?
Ktjn: add glitter, glow and hearts everywhere
TGC: done
rain token
The cost here in UK is even higher, exchange rates and all that. The real world equivalent is bonkers
timber ridge
Yeah, totally. One could argue it´s another way of supporting the devs?
blazing sail
There are plenty of ways to support the devs already.
For $10 I might have considered it but $20 is ridiculous
I could buy 5 other iOS games or one Switch game for the price of something I’ll use for a bit and then put in the closet
It’s not nearly as useful as the campfire, so once the novelty wears off I would be back to using my campfire full-time
So basically it’s $20 for like 5 min of entertainment
But hey maybe the personal blinding spell is worth $20 😬
dry pivot
yeah that bright one you have is really cool
blazing sail
Lol you just need to use it at night. It doesn’t stay bright once it’s set
dry pivot
oh I thought you took the pic after you set it
blazing sail
No I took video and then grabbed a still from the video
dry pivot
I see then I had the same one
ok so the swing creates hearts if you swing with someone (even with an unlit stranger) for more than 30 sec
blazing sail
Ah ok
It’s cute
Still think it should have been made out of wood and vines instead of metal/plastic
atomic yoke
Ok this is really the dumbest question to ask
Am I the only one who doesn’t like Valentine’s Day?
Gah... it’s dumb nvm
spark lance
Am I the only one who doesn’t like Valentine’s Day?
@atomic yoke
No, you're not the only one
The swing set is useful because it’s the only reusable bench that only has seating for 2. There’s been countless times where I just want to have a one on one conversation with someone without a bunch of other ppl sitting down. E.g. Trying to send a new person a friend code without a bunch of other ppl talking over us.
Not justifying the price, or saying ppl should buy it solely for that purpose, but it does have a in-game benefit compared to other chat mediums. I’ll def be buying it for that reason.
near locust
No @atomic yoke , I don’t have much affection for Valentine’s Day. This, despite being happily married for decades. It’s a holiday that puts a lot of pressure on people in a variety of ways. I don’t feel that pressure, myself, but I have empathy for those who do.
rustic imp
The swing still connects chat with other people on swings
So you still could have people talking over you
spark lance
Possibly, yes. Though, when I’m doing candle runs I very rarely see anyone with a table out. If I was really worried about that, I’d just go the next area. My point is, a bunch of ppl can’t plop down on my table and start talking.
blazing sail
Is that really an issue you encounter often? Where you’re running around and want a private conversation but can’t have it?
I can see that happening at home, but otherwise not really
Also, someone can push you off the swing
atomic yoke
K
spark lance
@blazing sail yes. this is why I was saying for me personally, it’s useful. I can’t speak for other ppl.
the common issue I run into, almost daily, is I’m out and about and meet someone. we communicate through emotes, work together, etc. I’d rather send them a code inv and save my candles (which adds up over time) which will unlock chat. it’s difficult enough trying to walk someone through using a code if they haven’t before with just one person. when there’s a bunch of anons the chat gets cluttered and it becomes more difficult to distinguish who’s talking. the candle benches burn out quickly, so they’re not a great alternative.
celest yarrow
🌞Good Morning My Mostest Beauteeefullest Skysapian Sisters & Brothers
😁HAPPY😆HAPPY😃HAPPY😊 TGI FRIDAY I hope y'all have a Funtastic Funfilled Fabulous Day
And a Wonderfully Awesomesauce weekend
Lots of 🤍❤🧡💛💚💙💖💜🖤 & 
🪔🕯️to all 
🤗🎉
spark lance
also, aside from conserving candles, there’s been quite a few times I’ve unlocked all the way up to chat using candles only to find out the person doesn’t speak english. so basically just wasted a bunch of candles.
hasty vessel
I think your the only person who has an issue with that then... I understand having a private conversation but if someone joins your table or campfire you say hi and continue on with your original conversation. I’ve never encountered a really intrusive player that’s cluttered the chat menu for the sake of talking. Having a private conversation still adds little to no value to the game and definitely isn’t worth the 20 dollar mark up. Once you get the other players qr code your set and the campfire or table don’t hinder you in any way from gaining that information it’s quite easy to find an unoccupied area in the corner of the game and set a table down.
spark lance
If I’m the only player in Sky who thinks that, so be it. I guess I’ll be in the minority who purchases the swing if it releases, and that’s fine as well. 🤷🏻♂️
vapid drum
@urban olive nope , you’re not alone in that matter. It’s just that there aren’t a lot of active players in this channel that speak out their mind.
tawny prairie
Yes yes, we aren’t the majority of the player base
Just the lucky few who get to help tgc out
we have to remember everyone’s feelings but also voice our opinion as separate opinion :3
I think the swing is a cute idea, I just like my campfire better for live in beta I’m very grateful for the swing tho
hasty vessel
I’m not berating you for wanting to get the swing, hey if you’re going to enjoy it and use it regularly and make the most of it then go ahead and purchase it by all means. I just think it’s important to weigh up the benefits of this item before purchasing it, and I say this because a lot of people will buy this item for the “cool exclusive” status it brings to their avatar and In turn perpetuates the idea that its ok for the team to introduce more exclusive items to the game exactly the same way as the swing in the future. Are we ok with the team continuously rolling out exclusive items for a hefty price tag? Adding very little to the game in terms of progressive content but rather sub par items that fail to heighten the overall gaming experience. Do items like these really have any correlation with the main underlying message of this game?
zealous swallow
@languid comet as I was saying before, the rocks won’t stop but I normally just charge through and light as much statues as possible
nope the whole point is saving statues , and being reborn again
Your welcome
tight slate
I would buy the swing, not because I would use it often. But more as a support for the developers of this game.
Plus it can give me art ideas
I guess
Specially when the graphics are up
But I don’t notice that often since I use a controller
Also, $20 is hesitant unless it brings another cosmetic like a cape.
bright gulch
Does anyone have a picture of the other traveling spirit thingy ?(not the sassy stance one, the other one, idk how it’s called xd)
proven trout
on the topic of unlocking chat with someone just to find out they dont speak your language, personally, i would just go for the table if you don’t have that already. it’s the same, but is obtainable without spending any money and has the same function. i’ve made it a rule of mine not to buy any IAP cosmetic items in this game other than the founders cape. for me personally there is no FOMO, no regret for not purchasing it. eventually i’m going to have so many cosmetics i’d never think twice about wearing a pumpkin head or using a swing again.
@bright gulch could you describe what the spirit looks like? was it the dragon/bull mask one? (my memory of what other spirit came is kind of hazy, lol)
bright gulch
It had a kind of triangle shaped cape, orange I think. I remember I saw a pic of how many candles it was each cosmetic from it but I can’t find it now
vapid briar
The Salutation spirit was the only other one that appeared on beta briefly.
proven trout
ahhh that one
i might be able to find a picture of the costs if i do a search here...but they might change when it comes to live
vapid briar
We've adjusted candle prices, so any screenshots from Beta may not reflect what they'll end up in Live.
bright gulch
Yeah I know, I was just curious how much was the cape in beta
lusty light
Wait that emote is called acknowledge??
proven trout
found one pic that said it was 65 when it was here. i never saw it when it was in beta for that brief period though
vapid briar
It was something like 65, but again, candle prices have been adjusted several times and nevermind wrong spirit from gratitude with a fluffy cape
proven trout
the gratitude cape guy i think
bright gulch
okeey ! thank you so much for ur help ! 
vapid briar
y...yes? <_<
proven trout
asks someone a question
me: acknowledges them by doing yoga
wait i guess they would be acknowledging my question...whatever
lusty light
Moth: exists
Me: 
vapid briar
oh, wait no, wrong one.
tight slate
I mean I do not mind players that speaks in different language as long as they know abit english and even if it were it’s mostly hispanics which I speak Spanish fluently and have no issue, but still prefer speaking english despite beimg my first language and not to make my friends feel alienated in a way.
vapid briar
Acknowledge is the gratitude pack items, Salutation is the spirit that was on beta. I perpetually mix those two up because of their capes.
proven kindle
Has this week’s traveling spirit arrived yet?
proven trout
chrone, that’s the beauty of sky to me, though. you can have good friends without talking to them. others may feel the need to have a conversation but personally i’d rather enjoy people’s company without speaking much.
gilded parrotBOT
The next Traveling Spirit will arrive on February 14 00:00 PT (UTC -8:00)
You can read how Traveling Spirits work here: http://bit.ly/TravelingSpirits
lusty light
Traveling spirits most likely won’t show up in beta though
empty inlet
Devs probably want to know how players call it, naturally
proven kindle
Which is the next traveling spirit? Has it been revealed yet?
empty inlet
No
blazing sail
Still no idea what to call the Vault Gratitude emote
tight slate
I mean it’s kind of a hassle switching Spanish to English and English to Spanish. But I do appreciate meeting players from different languages like one I met and lives in Vietnam and speaks english well.
empty inlet
Well one of the purposes of the game is to eliminate the gaps resulted from different languages between people
Therefore, emotes are one of the most important portions of the gameplay
blazing sail
Also, Salutation seems like a Wai?
vapid briar
edited my messages to hide my shame clear up any confusion for backreaders. >_>
blazing sail
Vault is Kung Fu Salutation
Are they getting mixed up?
Now I’m doing all this research on kung fu and Thai greetings when I’m supposed to be working
blazing sail
I didn’t really call any of them anything lol
vapid briar
It's less about what we name the expressions and what message the expression conveys. the files have names for identification purposes, but the names don't always match up in the absolute slightest. which is also why they're not named in-game.
blazing sail
Ahh
tawny prairie
ya but hopefully others knew what spirit I meant when I said “the yoga gratitude dude”
blazing sail
Seems possible to find actual names for each move, as I’m pretty sure I just found two of them. But will have to continue my search later
vapid briar
it took me forever to realize the file name for the stance from Vault was something else entirely.
blazing sail
One is The Wai and the other is Kung Fu Salute
empty inlet
hopefully others knew what spirit I meant when I said “praise the sun, and praise the earth”
blazing sail
I’m pretty sure
tawny prairie
ahahaha
empty inlet
so we talk about file names now?
delicate grail
!betafaq
gilded parrotBOT
The iOS and Android betas are full at the moment. To join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-announcements! Give yourself the beta role here by tapping the 
in #old-𝚛ules to be notified of important updates.
spare thistle
Be great if this game were on pc. The phone only has so much battery life and easily depletes at that while playing the game.
vapid briar
We plan on developing for other platforms in the future. Currently, our efforts are focused on Android.
stoic badger
Jenova recently commented on PS4 and PC plans, but i assume that’s all they are rn until Android gets done
lusty light
They’ve always planned to release sky on pc and console
It’s in the #590700594662998016
stoic badger
waits for macOS version
floral folio
About that Travelling Spirits, there is advantage and disadvantage. Prices is fair for free however it's effect is hit on sharing hearts between players. This problem is COLD hit threat for SKY community.
vapid briar
Calling it free is kind of a misnomer. The items aren't really free since people either have to invest a considerable amount of time to gather wax or invest money to buy candle packs. Time invested still has intrinsic value even though it can be perceived as "free."
floral folio
Yes you pointed it out exactly.
prime belfry
Would you say that seeing friends conversation when they are in a level and you are standing at home on the star pad trying to give them light is a glitch?
lusty light
Yes
near locust
So when I entered beta just now, the splash screen said "the travelers will return." That's not correct, is it?
near locust
...but not in beta.
livid ice
Is an addition to the game and beta is basically the game
Just for testing
So it might
Depends on TGC
lusty light
The travelers will return as in return to where they came from
near locust
That interpretation is a little non-intuitive 😜
stoic badger
+1
radiant drum
Well at least now the travelers will actually return
near locust
Darn it! I went on an emote bender that would put Truman Capote to shame and now I gotta farm farm farm. 🤣
livid ice
Lolol I actually thought u were talking about the other travelers ... I haven’t open the beta in a while and though they added a message :”v
worn field
update!
woeful lodge
Do we have any release notes for the updates from the last few days?
lusty light
No
spark lance
Can any of you max ur graphics setting
atomic trail
max is not available depending on the device we are using
spark lance
I can only have the middle graphics. Hbu?
shell magnet
How can we get onboard with becoming a beta tester for the new Mac version of the game?!? I would love to help!!!
atomic trail
@spark lance I was the same as you, I only had middle settings.
Max can be used after bought the new phone.
spark lance
I got a phone that can handle it but I can't use max graphics
atomic trail
Man I ask you what you use?
storm vessel
Max can be used on iPhone 11 Pro Max
atomic trail
It can also be used with iPhone8
lusty light
@shell magnet there is no Mac beta currently
shell magnet
@lusty light I see at the bottom of the sky website that it’s in the works... but it gives no details on who to be involved, so I thought I’d bring it up here. I’ve tested other Mac games and I know it takes a whole lot of work, so if and when the need for testers is time, I’d love to offer my time. 🙏
Thank you!!
lusty light
There used to be a Mac beta but was put on hold before iOS launch for the devs to focus on android
If there’s any news on beta testing for other platforms it’d most likely be in #beta-announcements !
shell magnet
Oh yeah?! Cool! I hope they bring it back! Thanks for the info! Your help is much appreciated. ♥️
stoic badger
I‘d guess macOS will be one of the first platforms beyond Android because iOS and macOS share the same graphics APIs and other libraries, so it’s far less tricky of a jump than Android
Also less important though in terms of market share so who knows
tawny prairie
yes not something I’d expect haha
stoic badger
Since they have their own game engine they need to adapt to every platform it’s not as easy to do as if you’re using Unity and UE4, which normally involves hitting a switch, checking yer shaders and doing lots of testing and lil bits of configuration
tawny prairie
and shaders aren’t fun 
stoic badger
I beg to differ O w O
tawny prairie
well if you enjoy doing that
I hate when you think everything is good and then OH giant black cloud great
stoic badger
Mmm
Shaders and materials are really interesting. There’s an iOS app called Shade that’ll let you make them
stoic badger
Absolutely
tawny prairie
You breathe and suddenly your world is underwater
stoic badger
I have the least patience for programming
When you have the plan and try to full in the features, and you constantly hit “one small thing” that refuses to work and it occupies daaaays of your time
tawny prairie
I think animating is probably the worst 
stoic badger
Oh why?
tawny prairie
you move the elbow and suddenly the forearm needs to be moved then suddenly the fingers all have to be moved
stoic badger
Hmm... depends on your animation rig
There’s a lot of technical detail but building good rigs help you focus on animating the gestures you need
tawny prairie
I only took a beginners class on a bunch of stuff to see if I was interested, I don’t know the important things
Just that wasn’t for me >_>
stoic badger
Rigs are like wireframes hooked up to animate groups of things or specific kinds of features
So they give you more fluid control of animating something
tawny prairie
Ah I just called those lines ahahaha
stoic badger
Hehehehe
tawny prairie
those lines inside the project!
I can’t imagine animating the sky kids originally
the ninja run was probably cute af tho
I’d love to see those little models
stoic badger
The thing that scares me the most with sky kid animation is the animation blending and the reactive Inverse Kinematics stuff
tawny prairie
Oh ya hahaha
I would love a stream where they just show doing graphic stuff and tiny projects
Like when Disney shows animators at work
stoic badger
I want a technical artist to talk about the process for doing the cloud shader
That would be gooood <3
tawny prairie
Honestly I’d love them to talk about valley
delicate grail
Can I ask something? What is Santa? Is he a hacker?
stoic badger
@delicate grail ...santa?
stoic badger
Oh
quaint onyx
Some one asked about the cloud shaders at the Gnomon talk. The team couldn't even begin to answer
tawny prairie
Oh dear haha
stoic badger
Oh i bet
stoic badger
Not only building it but optimizing it
tawny prairie
team starts crying
delicate grail
Eh glitch... Oki thank you
quaint onyx
They said they've had other people come in and look at the cloud shader code and just say, I have no idea how this is doing this
tawny prairie
neither do we!
jk
I feel like it’s one of those things you tweaked and was like “OKAY NOBODY TOUCH THIS”
stoic badger
Oh, one of those game dev things
quaint onyx
So, pretty much, there's one guy that knows how it works
stoic badger
Yeah, that cloud shader is never getting changed
quaint onyx
Not spaghetti code style, but just intense
tawny prairie
I’ll send the wine so they can get through the stream
stoic badger
Oh im never going to understand that
tawny prairie
we want the stream with the math kids
stoic badger
the math kid*
quaint onyx
I mean they bend around your character, deforming differently, even with the tail hook affect at high speeds, look amazing, and can be placed as just a shape...
quaint onyx
Love the sound for it too, last q/a said The sound when we touch the clouds =
crackling soap suds + fizzing carbonation +
sizzling frying pan
tawny prairie
It’s a cool but odd combo of sounds
quaint onyx
It's supposed to link to positive memories
stoic badger
hehehe
prime belfry
I just met another brand new player in beta this time in Valley by the ice rink! He was chinese. Has there been a call for beta testers in China. Because I thought that boot leg versions couldn't download the levels.
white garnet
probably beta links are on other servers too, not just the english one
he might have been here a while
prime belfry
That's good
white garnet
ya
lusty light
There are no servers outside of this one, I’m not sure how they got into beta
white garnet
oh what
maybe he is in this server? maybe he just speaks chinese if theres different version of this game in china
empty inlet
They don't call for beta testers in China specifically
The invite link can be saved although it's deleted in beta-updates, so maybe someone shared the link they saved to friends to let them get the spot
tawny prairie
or maybe the just never logged in until now
I had downloaded beta but didn’t actually open the game for like a week
proven trout
they shared the link on facebook too i think
i’ve met people on the global server from china
spark lance
There is only one server for beta
radiant drum
@ancient kelp please don’t discuss unintended ways to get access
quaint onyx
It's not like people are going to be able to use whatever method it is outside of China
And its not like people in China can hear about it here
Has it been pinned down? Was thinking Tencent as the culprit, but still don't know
If you guys still aren't sure of the culprit, try and bring something up with the https://www.gdsa.com/en
Cause that much traffic going to any one server outside of China is going to bring some eyes you definitely don't want 
Particularly a game
near locust
Anyone willing to report on changes with the latest update? I can’t get on at the moment.
quaint onyx
Seems more internal, or something to do with the candle conversion
dire rover
Cloud shader is fun when you start to see the black polygons it revolves around
hallow bough
just droppin in to say that you beta bros and broettes are valid and are a vital part of the sky community
summer briar
Any news on release yet? :3
lunar zealot
For Android? Not yet.
Shouldn’t be too far off since we have limited live in Japan and Singapore though. They’ll announce it in #news when it releases
marsh wigeon
it'd be nice to have a independent camera sort of item
where you can have it not move while trying to take photos
empty inlet
Shouldn’t be too far off since we have limited live in Japan and Singapore though.
That was me when i knew ios sky started limited live
hollow compass
It took a few months then.
tulip raven
Last 4-5 updates didnt change anything noticeable in performance for me, only new items, cosmetic, seasons... were tested, so I think we are still half a year away from android live 😩
There are so many major issues, like flickering lines and gamecrashes with snapdragon prozessors, pixelproblems and massiv framerate dropdowns on exynos prozessors... messed up chat, "matchmaking" connectivity issues, screenshots not working... and and and
Core mechanics are simply not running round. I report the same things every 3rd build and they stay.
So, I guess android wont be ready befor summer is gone 😢 But thats only my perspective, maybe tgc has a secret weapon in backhand and pulls a big surprise 🙏 🙏 🙏
lusty light
I understand being frustrated with bugs not being fixed but please remember that TGC is only around 30 people and a bug that may seem easy to fix might be causing them a lot of issues
I had a bug since august that just got fixed
vapid drum
!joinbeta
lusty light
!betafaq
gilded parrotBOT
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lusty light
Rob why lol
We killed !joinbeta bc people thought using the command would get them into beta immediately
vapid drum
Hahahahaha, sorry , I was wondering what the command was , since I didn’t see it for like a day
Lol, it was a long night for me , I tend to do stuff like that afterwards 🤣
tulip raven
I know tgc are not more ppl than a shool class. My last massage was ment to give information about the state of the game, from my very! limitied perspective as a tester, not more. Dont read any anger in the smileys please 🧐
lusty light
Sorry!
tulip raven
Im enjoying the beta veeeery much, even with the forgivable issues. Im only here cause I wasnt able to wait for live anymore
lusty light
I get that lol, I found out about the game in 2017 but wasn’t able to play until July 2018
And then the game not being out until 2019... it’s been a long wait but it was worth it!
tulip raven
Absolutly!!!
near locust
Well, I'm back in beta, playing (or rather not) with the swing, and I've decided that unless they "unnerf" the stackability and ability to stand on it, I've got little reason to buy it. Half the fun of table and campfire are the goofy things you can do with them. There is so little room for creative interaction with the environment with Sky. I'm not paying real money for an in-game item where 50% of the fun has been removed. The swings are just sitting there in a full server, and nobody's using them, unlike before when they could be placed in fun positions and stacked. Was talking with a few friends in beta and they feel similarly.
lusty light
People were griefing others by forcing them to stand bc of the swing collision so that’s why they turned it off
near locust
This doesn't affect table or campfire?
lusty light
It’s different since when you are on a swing you are in motion
near locust
I wish there was a solution that allowed stacking but prevented griefing. It's just not all that interesting now.
radiant drum
I wrote similar feedback when I found out about that change. I hope they find a good way to bring it back
And honestly it’s a bit weird to me that you can walk right through the swing
near locust
It would be worth letting people know that they're working on it. I'd be more inclined to buy it during it's limited appearance if I knew that it could be changed back in the future.
radiant drum
I’m sure TGC is working hard to clarify as many things as they can, but changes happen fast during development and it takes time and effort to communicate clearly with players
We’re still in beta so we have time to test those things before it’s actually in the real store
So we will probably know from the game and they will have a better answer closer to its release
blazing sail
A good solution would be to make it available for a lot longer than 5 days. 😬
near locust
Yeah - I realize they're juggling. The swing is a heated topic for a number of reasons, and people like/dislike it for a number of reasons. As a result of the controversy it generates, I think it's important that players get as much info about it as possible, including whether or not it might change in the future in terms of its capabilities.
radiant drum
Anything can change in beta
empty inlet
im curious
near locust
True. But not everything in beta stirs the pot like this item.
radiant drum
And yeah, I do hope they extend the time it’s available in the store for us so we can watch the (possible) price changes
empty inlet
which bug since august?
blazing sail
Once it’s out, I doubt they’d change it. Bc that would cause even more outrage from those who didn’t buy it.
radiant drum
I believe it’s the high definition rendering bug
lusty light
It was
Whenever I used high def the render distance was shortened by a lot so like if you went to the beginning of valley large chunks of terrain would just. Not exist
near locust
It gets weirder Mirian. You can just pass through people altogether if you are sitting on the swing. It looks bonkers. I'll post a photo in screenshots and vids.
blazing sail
Can you still get knocked off the swing? I didn’t check
near locust
Nope. You are like a ghost.
blazing sail
So someone can’t sit down and force you off?
I guess that’s why you’re a ghost, then. That was their fix?
near locust
No. People can just walk right through you.
empty river
are you sure? because me and my friend got our swing hijacked yesterday
blazing sail
Oof
blazing sail
Wait what
near locust
I'll post a screenshot
empty river
and when I switched to the campfire, they were sitting on it too
blazing sail
I thought they did away with all that unless you go out of your way to make that happen
empty river
gotta report that when im done with hw
civic cedar
I want to meet big santa
analog citrus
I think all these problems we have in game with people being trolls or griefers and requiring the “fixing” of the fireworks, spam call, table, swing and all would be fixed if it was easier to report those annoying people. Right now they have to allow themselves to be candle lit for you to report and that button is not well known or even labeled
worn field
with regard to the spam call, many of the people using that probably don’t realise that it can be harmful, and so aren’t really trolls/griefers.
lusty light
Spam calling wasn’t intended anyway
You had to do a very specific thing for it to work
analog citrus
Most people aren’t trolls and are just having fun. I just wish we could separate out the people who are and not have to nerf all the fun stuff for the rest of us.
worn field
i suspect that the innocent players who are just having fun still manage to unknowingly cause harm, so removing the genuine trolls would be an incomplete solution.
proven trout
yeah, you can be having fun with your friends but while you’re doing that i sit in the corner with my bright white light-induced headache.
terse swift
Looks like my incident didn’t work out soo well 
sorry dudes about the no collision thing
stoic badger
Thats okay, im sure they knew and just implemented it as an interim patch?
They’re going to need more nuanced collision logic
near locust
our understanding i that beta won't ever have visiting spirits again. they've been tested and that's it
that laugh was for Many-eyed Seraph
lusty light
You saw nothing
spark lance
For some reason I can't hear people play their instruments... Do we have to be fwends?
tardy dove
normally you're able to hear people play regardless if you're friends or not, sounds like a bug
open adder
What is beta for ?
royal ridge
beta is for testing new seasons/features for the game before they are released on the live, open version of the game
blazing sail
The thing with the swing is that in beta everyone has it so you can get nearly 8 people in an instance building a tower. Very few people will have it in live, so you’re probably not going to end up with more than 2-3 in an instance
blazing sail
!swingandamiss
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dusky seal
This works..
hybrid wedge
@open adder Eko answered your question a few posts up
lunar zealot
If you’re on iOS, then yes ^^
hybrid wedge
But downloading the TestFlight app alone won’t get you into the beta. The betafaq command above explains
lunar zealot
When TGC announces spots in #beta-announcements.
hybrid wedge
The post by Thatskybot
open adder
So I need to wait for my turn ?
lunar zealot
Yep ^^
open adder
U have experienced it ?
lunar zealot
They announce when they open slots in #beta-announcements. It’s a first come first serve scenario.
livid ice
Is not like waiting for your turn is waiting for slots to be open and trying to get the app quick and touch the link as quick as they announce slots are open
Beta gets full pretty quick
celest yarrow
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near locust
Question: are there plans to put more stone babies in Eden since traveling spirits add wing buffs? If not, getting a complete Eden run will get progressively easier.
lusty light
I don’t think there are plans to do so, but adding more statues would mean you would get a higher reward by the end of the week, and since you can do eden multiple times you’d still get the same amount of candles as a person who just went once that week anyway
delicate grail
!betafaq
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lusty light
If you got your information from a hacker or data mining then you shouldn’t talk about it here
dire rover
Well I did say rumors
lusty light
If the rumors are based on hacking it’s not allowed here
dire rover
jade forge
Why is the graphics function different in the second mode (depending on the device)? Someone has 60 fps and the third mode is 30 fps,and someone has 30 fps, but the third mode is not available
Maybe you should swap 60 fps and 30 fps? Put 60 fps in third mode?
lunar zealot
For some the 3rd mode is disabled (on Android) to make sure the game is running smoothly.
jade forge
@lunar zealot My post is not about what is on or off, but in the ordinal location
lunar zealot
Oh, the 60fps mode is for a smoother game (high performance), while the 3rd are high definition with 30fps. I’m guessing the order is in the way of what will drain the least to most battery
jade forge
@lunar zealot Most likely
spark lance
!betafaq
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hollow compass
Lol, did someone add the bolded text recently?
lunar zealot
Seems like it Belpita 😂
vapid drum
Maybe the bot itself was getting sick and tired of repeating the same old message over and over again
It somehow grew an AI
vapid briar
Until folks can grok the command doesn't promise a beta slot, the best we can do is add emphasis
vapid drum
I actually had to google the meaning of the word grok
hollow compass
“grok the command”...?
empty river
Understand the command basically
Perhaps if we fill the auto response with emojis...? 
jkjk
vapid briar
Apologies for confusion, let me clarify: Until folks come to understand the bot command is solely an informational tool and not any kind of opt-in, guarantee, promise, wait-list, etc regarding beta slots, the bot's message might seem a little abrupt, but it's kind of our only tool to assist with the sheer volume of questions about getting into beta.
empty inlet
grok US informal
vapid briar
I think I picked it up from a game dev friend and it stuck. I love peculiar words <_<
rustic imp
It might be then”at the moment part” that is confusing
lunar zealot
Grok... it certainly is a peculiar word, but it basically means “to understand” if i’m not mistaken
rustic imp
Coined in the 1960s.
hollow compass
I am not that old. 
It’s a good addition. I suspect I wasn’t the only one tired of the command “spam”.
empty inlet
i think alex already turned off auto reply function for this command, to make it less spammy
lusty light
No that’s still there
empty inlet
play + beta wasn't the matching rule? ok
vapid drum
Can anyone help me refresh my memory. I know that the gratitude season In beta had the unlock icons in the spirit trees when it first came out. I believe that at a later point they were removed. Were they available to the soft players in the beginning too?? Because at this moment there’s a lot of threads being made on different Facebook pages about people saying it’s impossible to have 120 wings while I know soft players who has them
radiant drum
Yeah it is possible for limited live players that got them to get 10 wedges
Should be a very small handful of players tho
Gratitude had 3 wing buffs for sale and while beta got reset, limited live never did
vapid briar
Mirian is correct, Limited Live players have the possibility of more than 120, but they are very few and far between, but is indeed possible. For players who joined after Global Launch (July 18 2019) they are not yet eligible for that 10th star, though it will be possible by the time Season of Rhythm has concluded.
radiant drum
Soon 
Does that mean limited live players that have them will always be 3 stars ahead?
empty river
ahh I feel bad for telling others those were hackers 
radiant drum
It was only possible very recently though so at least now we have clarification!
blazing sail
Wouldn’t they even out when those spirits return as travelers?
Or would they get an extra wing buff from those same spirits?
I guess the question would be answered if someone saw their Sassy spirit last week
radiant drum
Sassy spirit wasn’t part of the original gratitude season
blazing sail
Oh?
Which ones were?
Did they have spirits that didn’t make it into the season later?
radiant drum
And only 3 spirits had wing buffs, but their trees changed a lot to the gratitude in the global version. So I’m not sure how that’s gonna work out
Oh no the sassy spirit was just added to isle
blazing sail
Would be weird if they give two wing buffs...but then again there are some spirits that give two wing buffs
So I guess we just wait for Ktjn to answer that question
radiant drum
I hope TGC can somehow make it so players that got those wing buffs waaay back cannot purchase the new wing buffs from the same traveling spirits.. if that’s even possible 😄
vapid drum
I thought it had 4 upgrade icons with exception of the stance and the call
6 spirits total with 4 upgrades
blazing sail
Yeah permanent extra wing buffs forever seems like a pretty big perk to have just for starting early
It would make more sense that they’re already unlocked, just like everything else that isn’t a spell.
empty inlet
you have to resend it
proven kindle
!travelingspirits
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radiant drum
This command is for the live version
proven kindle
Which spirit will travel this friday?
radiant drum
On the beta there probably won’t be any traveling spirits anymore
@vapid drum the very first run of gratitude only had 5 spirits, and 3 wing buffs. The second time gratitude ran they added the isle spirit and it was closer to what we saw on global (3rd time)
Lots of gratitude seasons happened
vapid drum
🤣thanks @radiant drum that’s why I Needed a refreshment of memory just to grok the situation
It’s the one season that changed like 4 times
lunar zealot
Mirian don’t remind me how I literally missed all the installments of Gratitude
jagged rune
Any news on invisible cape? 👀
lunar zealot
Not yet, no 
jagged rune
vapid briar
The way the wing buffs are coded, Global players will eventually "catch up" to Limited Live players who had them early, it will just take a while before all of the Gratitude spirits have made their rounds as Traveling Spirits.
No news on the invisible cape other than it only lives on Beta for the time being.
empty inlet
do santa live on beta only?
lusty light
Santa is beta only bc he’s just a player that’s bugged that happens to be on beta
It’s not an Easter egg or anything or a new feature
vapid briar
Santa is indeed beta-only, and confirmed isn't a hacker.
empty inlet
ik it’s not ee
btw
more livestream when
wanna meet the newly joined tgc families
dire rover
I just want to mention how far the game has come in terms of collision detection and player movement.
Looking at old beta playthroughs right now and it was seriously clunky to move around, flying was sort of working but there was no middle ground so the choice to fly far and hover that we have now is magical for the touch-controller scheme.
Player jumping and the AI that tries to understand what you're jumping on is still wonky when it comes to slopes and flight though, like getting the darkness on the towers in prarie and getting launched off at mach 2 because you jumped to on darkness but your character overshot, you jumped back and now you're a speed demon
blazing sail
Just learned from the patch notes that the stadium spirit is called CHEER. 😳
lusty light
What did you call it?
blazing sail
Don’t laugh
Air Punch 🤣
I really had no idea what to call it before
Cheer makes sense tho. She’s in the bleachers
Just updated my guide. Maybe in like 10 years I’ll have all the official names
spark lance
What does the update have?
mossy hinge
so how many stars can you get in total ?
radiant drum
you can check the changes to the live update in the patch notes
spark lance
Okay thx
delicate grail
!betafaq
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sand ridge
!betafaq
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austere merlin
Seems like the capeless item was scrapped for the time being
idle current
Is there anyone who feel the same that since update, the 8-player room is much harder to get correctly merged with 8-player?
spiral summit
The swing hasn’t been released yet yea?
lunar zealot
Already been in beta, if you mean in live; it’ll come this Wednesday at 12pm pst
burnt finch
so the reset after this one
lunar zealot
No, 12 hours after Wednesday reset
spiral summit
Thanks for your answer again Em 🙏
Another question
Oop
Forgot
No curses
My b
What is the spirit in the office with the grat mask?
It looks like the demon but I can’t finish the path, and my friends who don’t have that spirit also can’t.
Also also
When and where is this ultimate gift xD
lunar zealot
There is no gratitude spirit in the secret area. Neither can you get the ultimate gift of that season now either
spiral summit
Right right but you know how there was word about “an ultimate gift for players who have everything” was that in reference to the elder items for this season?
lunar zealot
If it’s questions about the live version btw, it’s more suited to ask in #questions-and-help. They also get easier seen as beta chat can and is dead off season / new updates
lunar zealot
Oh that, that’s an invisible cape cosmetic only found in beta atm
spiral summit
Ohhhhhhh
Um
I’m unsure the relevance to this channel for this question, but no cape and invisible cape are different?
Please tell me you’re not telling me that I didn’t need to save all these 999 hearts q.q
lunar zealot
Yes. No cape is something you can attain by losing all your wings somewhere (it involves friend with warp as well, and you cant fly), while the invisible cape is a legitimate way to go capeless (and you can fly).
lunar zealot
Not sure what the final price would be upon hitting live if it does, Graves. But it is an end-game item, so if it ends up being that i’m not surprised.
And the place it is in beta currently (whale call) is a placeholder so it wont have any relation with the forest constellation when and if it comes live
spiral summit
@burnt finch sounds like you need a fast forward button for life fren xD
lunar zealot
We all need that fast forward button sometimes
spiral summit
I feel
Very agree
And yea, fair enough Em
If they would chop that price down a bit that would make my life so much better xD
I’ve been trading like a mad man
lunar zealot
But it would also make it easier for those if us who already has 200+ hearts
spiral summit
And as a causation throwing my wallet at tgc xD
Yeeee
I’m so close to 999
Preparing for the worst tho xD
Thank you for being such a rock solid source of info Em, as always ur a saint and an angel.
spark lance
@pulsar edge is a way better source of information and a pro at sky!!
i heard ktjn is making him a shepard next
kindred fossil
anyone can answer questions
vapid briar
They may be knowledgeable about the game, but it really isn't a reason to put down another player. Furthermore, we don't disclose who is and isn't a shepherd candidate in general chat channels.
spark lance
U need to make community polls then
vapid briar
We do have community polls in #polls. If you're referring to polls about who is nominated for shepherd, that is something that will never be up for community vote, too easy to be treated like a popularity contest and abused vs actually working to maintain a safe, friendly atmosphere.
kindred fossil
you literally joined today, how do you know all of this
spiral summit
Ral is an admin on a Sky discord for a reason
He is indeed a good source of info
But Em is also commendably powerful when it comes to sourcing info.
Not to mention Ktjn herself being wonderful as well 
radiant drum
Community shepherd decisions are solely made by TGC and not by public voting or campaigning. Ktjn already clarified so this discussion ends here
blazing sail
Yikes
pearl dock
Hi guys. Where is the quest npc at valentine event?
radiant drum
The event is over in the beta version
tacit pebble
I own 1300 hearts. When will the transparent version be implemented in the live version?
lunar zealot
We don’t know when or if it’ll come live, Tobtob
hollow compass
I’d like to think that all of us are good sources of information, because we all play differently and therefore know different things. The role of a shepherd is closer to mod/admin and perhaps they also have slightly more insight in some bts stuff. But to pitch any player against another is basically contrary to the whole concept of Sky.
@tacit pebble do you have that many hearts in Live? That’s amazing!
vapid drum
Holy crab , 1300??!! That’s the most I’ve ever heard a player owned 😍
tacit pebble
Thank you for the congratulations. Some of my friends have 1650 hearts. I am still a baby. If you don't implement the transparent cloak quickly, you will have 2000 friends ...
vapid drum
@tacit pebble 🤫 shhhhh , they might up the price otherwise 😭
tacit pebble
Wow oh! It is very troubled! Let's say it was all a lie. good night.
summer briar
Any tips on how to farm hearts?
violet sapphire
Make friends along the way, then you will make certain friends that are kind and will offer candles to unlock next tree in the friendship, those friends will return your gifts
lusty light
Hearts aren’t supposed to be something you farm
Just make good friends and they will give you hearts
burnt finch
what i want to know is why keep sending/getting hearts after you have everything
finite pumice
@lusty light that may have been the intent, however it is unfortunately inevitable that some will farm, some will create multiple accounts , and find other ways to get around that intent.
@burnt finch because that’s what the game is trying to encourage; goodness, generosity and altruism.
hollow compass
@burnt finch I personally don’t need any more hearts in Live anymore, but I assume most of my friends still do, so it would only be fair that I give back what they gave me.
burnt finch
@hollow compass understandable!
i just don't accept hearts when i'm able, and just ask them to let me know when they need them so they don't have to waste candles on me ^^
hollow compass
I suppose I never thought of it as wasting candles. 😉
burnt finch
i mean, i guess it's not wasting if you enjoy hoarding them
tbh having 1000+ hearts just hanging around in your inventory sounds fun
sand dawn
Having that many hearts is just impossible
@tacit pebble have you been buying tons of candles and constantly trading?
I’ve played every day since halfway Gratitude and unlocked all constellations fully, I have about 200 hearts (ontop of the 650ish I spend unlocking everything)
1300 is suspiciously much
stoic ocean
It’s totally doable- you don’t know what their friend constellation is like or what their friends are like. Sounds like they give a lot of hearts daily
formal breach
Yeah, might also have been playing during limited live which would mean a lot more time to save up
empty inlet
most of the early limited live players have over one thousand hearts
getting cosmetics was easy, getting candles was easy, getting hearts was easy
quaint onyx
So what's going on in beta land?
We just waiting or we got something cool to try out?
vapid briar
The latest build is the same as patch 0.8.2 that went out to live yesterday, though the build number is slightly different.
empty inlet
can see you have tons of builds created
quaint onyx
Howsy work in iOS land? Can you download any of the previous builds? Or just the current one?
empty inlet
technically you can, but it’s not something provided by apple
quaint onyx
Would be fun just to run a grep compare to see what's been focused on
empty inlet
you can’t play on previous builds anyway
quaint onyx
Whadya think they're cookin up? Over in HQ?
I'm thinkin pants
There's a whiteboard in TGC with just the word "Pants" followed by a question mark
I trust our Sky gods.
Who on the TGC staff is most likely to be the one remembered as "the one who microwaved fish that one time"?
My mind tells me Robobean, but my heart's going with Ktjn
vivid glacier
the what
empty river
change that 'pants?' into 'pants!!' and we are golden lolol
they know we go crazy over pants
robust tree
uhh
on travelling spirits i heard u need to spend hearts
but do u have to if u just want to ascend it?
vapid briar
How'd you know?! @quaint onyx @empty river
empty river
PFFFFFHAHAHA
final lance
wew
empty river
Fr add a season that's just pants and the server breaks
blazing sail
You can install previous TestFlight builds but they won’t work
vapid briar
please don't judge my poor southpaw penmanship
blazing sail
I’m just curious about the A’s
quaint onyx
I am awash with feelings I cannot describe right now
lusty light
ktjn you’re left handed?
empty river
wut
blazing sail
Ktjn, while you’re here, are you able to shed any light on my question in the general chat?
It’s something I’ve noticed for a while now — not just recently.
lusty light
You will need hearts eventually
vivid glacier
or i have horrible memory
lusty light
The spirit we saw didn’t need hearts but they said that there will be spirits that will need hearts
exotic atlas
says it in patchnotes
blazing sail
The second one did
vivid glacier
owo
blazing sail
The prairie gratitude one
vivid glacier
aaa
blazing sail
But if I recall correctly the hearts were for the emotes
vapid briar
It's probably a little confusing since the first Traveling Spirit was a Stance which doesn't have expression upgrades. Expression upgrades are slated to cost hearts. Things will likely be a little more clear when the second Traveling Spirit arrives.
blazing sail
Ktjn, why does it always seem like the bottom half of the heart meter fills up much slower than the top half?
proven trout
mmm perspective? and the idea that in general, things seem to take longer in the first part and the last bit goes like a breeze?
empty inlet
might be you thinking about the area it fills up
near locust
I would love magenta and orange striped (horizontal) pants so that I can fulfill my destiny to live out my existence as Big Bird.
frosty crag
bruh
vapid briar
Like chicky said, it's an optical illusion, the bottom of the heart is narrower so it looks like it fills up slower but it fills up evenly throughout the heart.
blazing sail
I dunno, it takes a bunch of friends to even get the tiniest bit going on the bottom. But at the top it looks like I still need a few more and one does the trick.
Is the meter starting below the heart?
empty inlet
kind of
like the meter of candle end above the visible icon
it would make sense if you feel the candle fills up slower on top
blazing sail
Well a candle orb is smaller than a single friend’s heart pieces I think?
empty inlet
indeed
blazing sail
So it’s hard to compare the two. You don’t collect candles in even amounts
But the heart pieces are collected in even amounts so it’s weird
That it doesn’t look even
empty inlet
up-
brazen flicker
-date
blazing sail
Look at you finishing each other’s sentences
empty inlet
ktjn typing in updates channel
empty river
oh dear
vapid briar
nothing glamorous, just testing that elusive chat bug we've been chasing.
And a fix for the Gratitude Fur Cape Pack being visible for players who already own one or more items from the pack, but that is disabled in the beta shop and doesn't require further testing.
empty inlet
good to know lol
near locust
Yay that chat bug was driving me bonkers.
Ok, ok. More bonkers.
finite pumice
Ok. I’ve just watched the first 5 minutes of the 3rd episode of Mythic Quest. Couldn’t help smiling at the CM stereotype.
vapid briar
I'm terrified to even ask.
kindred fossil
centimeter
quaint onyx
Curium, synthetic element atomic number 96?
I'd laugh at a curium stereotype
Always boiling at 3383 Kelvin, oh that curium
We may never know
finite pumice
I suspect very heavily it’s unfair. Most of the characters are very heavily exaggerated. Anyways I don’t want to divert away from Sky. It was just a fun thought.
near locust
Is Cake Monster related to Cookie Monster?
atomic yoke
Well he eats loads of cookies
worn field
maybe off-season
quaint onyx
Oh, Wait! Solstice
spark lance
how about seasonal interstitial development frenzy
spark lance
or seasonal ebb tide
empty inlet
Intermission
viral ether
?
quaint onyx
We all gotta stop buying everything immediately when it appears in the store page
Then again... Sorry TGC, but the only main fun part of the swing was our friendship sculptures.
Hey...The campfire was that way, too.
Blessed Sky Santa, glory be unto he
empty inlet
you cannot test this even if you didn't buy swing
vapid briar
This wasn't something that y'all could have identified. Which happens from time to time.
quaint onyx
Phew, got it out of me
spark lance
Who's the traveling spirit and what do they have
worn field
there’s no traveling spirit. we have no idea who the next spirit will be in the live game.
dire rover
I'm very glad there is a whiteboard with the word Pants? written on it over at TGC hq
Imagine if they updated it to support boots, pants and the whole dressroom
lusty light
empty river
Another idea for April fools: turn every cosmetic into pants
Every. Single. Cosmetic 
dire rover
Pants: Trousers of The Light
median idol
was travelling spirit shown yet?
empty inlet
nope
lusty light
No
spark lance
When will the traveling spirit come?
near locust
In beta? Probably never.
gilded parrotBOT
The next Traveling Spirit will arrive on February 14 12:00 PT (UTC -8:00)
You can read how Traveling Spirits work here: http://bit.ly/TravelingSpirits
kindred fossil
i got eyes
near locust
I know YOU do. 😆 Not worried about you. Others harbor the illusion (not you) that beta is merely Live 6 weeks in the future. That’s not true (and I know you know that) and that idea gives the wrong idea about what beta’s purpose is.
lunar zealot
@vapid drum gratitude ran multiple times before global ^^
vapid drum
@lunar zealot yes I know that , but I was asking if gratitude ran before the reset
lunar zealot
I believe it did. Don’t quite remember
blazing sail
In beta? I don’t think Gratitude ran before the reset but I ignored it back then
vapid drum
Hahahaha, you see , that whole period is just a blur. There were so many things going on at once that time
I’m asking cause the journey cape disappeared with the reset. But I can see the coffee pot from gratitude in the back
blazing sail
Coffee pot?
Oh so maybe gratitude ran before and after the reset? I only got into beta shortly before it came to live. (I remember a friend thinking they could invite me to it, which in hindsight doesn’t makes sense.)
hollow compass
Winter/Rhythm season ran 3 times before reset. Then, I believe we had Gratitude for a shortened period of time, which is why you can see some items on players.
I believe TGC realised it wasn't necessary to run a season for its full course after a while, once most of the basic features were in place.
radiant drum
The winter season ran only once in beta for a long period of time. Gratitude ran twice, once before and after beta got reset
Not long after the game released and gratitude ran in global launch
blazing sail
Yeah I I think that’s why I ignored gratitude in beta. I was already playing it in live
radiant drum
It was short too 😄 I managed to finish two spirits playing everyday
We got the sassy spirit and the other constellations reworked on that second run, and it was pretty much the same on live
vapid drum
Thanks @radiant drum
hollow compass
really? I'm sure we replayed Winter at least once
or maybe I'm just confusing it with constant reworks over that long time?
radiant drum
Yeah we had lots of changes during the winter season and some “dead” periods haha
radiant drum
Like when they changed the spirits to appear weekly and they all disappeared, lol
hollow compass
I remember having to revisit the spirits in their respective places each time you wanted to upgrade/buy something
Wasteland was "fun"
fallen schooner
Is it normal to start all over again in beta???? I just joined beta today and I thought that my progress in the live sky would be in the beta too...
radiant drum
!betalive
gilded parrotBOT
Beta and Live versions of Sky are completely separate apps. Progress/purchases in one have no effect on progress/purchases in another.
vapid drum
Here I went typing a whole message reply 😂
fallen schooner
hollow compass
@fallen schooner how did you manage to get into beta now, if I may ask?
Also, remember that beta is a testing ground, not just a fancy way of getting free stuff to try before everyone else. 😉
icy falcon
I noticed a lot of moths running around the realms this week!
hollow compass
In Live too.
kindred fossil
it can be downloaded from 3rd parties, but it wont work properly
coarse root
How can one get into the beta? I want to know so I can help with future testing.
hybrid wedge
!betafaq @coarse root
gilded parrotBOT
The iOS and Android betas are full at the moment. To join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-announcements! Give yourself the beta role here by tapping the in #old-𝚛ules to be notified of important updates.
This text will not change. If you would like to be a beta tester, please follow the information above.
coarse root
Thank you
elder shard
when was the last time they were open?
proven trout
mid-december
hollow compass
It would be really interesting to hear more from the person above, but perhaps they haven’t logged into Discord since posting earlier.
lucid narwhal
I have a question, if I join the beta when there will be a new invite wave, will I get the cape?
gilded parrotBOT
The Beta Cape was a one-time reward for the testing period prior to the iOS global launch. A future reward is not planned.
lucid narwhal
ok, thank you
undone fable
Do you guys know how many candles do we need for this week’s travelling spirit in live?
vapid drum
I’m playing sky atm on my iPhone , mirrored on the Apple TV and there’s no more delay ??? You can actually play it on the tv this way. Is this something that has been fixed by tgc or is it my device upgrade
radiant drum
@undone fable traveling spirits aren’t being tested in beta after the first one
vapid drum
Never mind , it quits after playing for more then 15 minutes 😒
vapid briar
Sorry, rob. I haven't heard of any AppleTV related changes, so it's likely just a coincidence from other optimizations.
undone fable
@radiant drum thx
vapid drum
Oh well , it looked amazing as long as it lasted 🤗
blazing sail
Would love to see Sky on my Apple TV
Just not sure how you would chat? Using the remote’s mic?
vapid briar
It's an issue we'll work on addressing when we start preparing for console...after we've launched on Android.
dire escarp
Just saw the announcement of the next travelling spirit, will this only be in live or beta too?
quaint onyx
We no more travelers. Live is enough of a trek for them, I guess. Lasy spirits
quaint onyx
Also, you guys really need to do a China strategy, like now. Like, more pressing than an Android release.
I actually think/hope that's what is holding up the Android release. That you're waiting for approval
lusty light
The game is already out in China on iOS, it’s just a different publisher
Most likely will be like that for Android as well
quaint onyx
It is?! Ok, good, I actually did not know that. I figured Jenova wouldn't forget something like that, but I had never heard. Is it like a partner deal through Tencent?
Or, I guess it doesn't really matter
lusty light
Yeah tencent is publishing it in China and they have their own events and servers
quaint onyx
So, I'm taking that what's going on with Android currently? Waiting for approval? Would you even need to get re-approved just for a different platform?
lusty light
No it’s just that it’s hard to develop for android
empty inlet
the publisher of Sky in China is not Tencent but Netease
empty inlet
also Android version of Sky maybe needing another approval, but that’s up for Netease to handle so tgc probably won’t take this factor into consideration when developing Android Sky
sand dawn
Curious to know..
Are there any china-only cosmetics?
empty inlet
yes
sand dawn
Plz share
empty inlet
but it’s not a Chinese cosmetic, which makes completely no sense
quaint onyx
That info's for China only
empty inlet
remember the lightseeker season quest giver’s mask?
empty inlet
just a weird promo
sand dawn
radiant drum
I believe it was a reward for some sort of giveaway/competition they held there
empty inlet
mirian is right
radiant drum
They have their own events so it wasn’t really tied to actual game mechanics afaik
empty inlet
because Chinese server had very serious player lost issue
sand dawn
I .. really.. hope.. to see.. that mask... oneday..
radiant drum
So yeah, difficult territory to have a strong opinion on because it’s completely separate from our servers
empty inlet
Netease decided to give the mask to players if they logged in everyday in a certain period
radiant drum
I hope to see that mask one day too 😄 but I’m okay not having it if that’s TGCs decision for us
sand dawn
empty inlet
maybe we can have it someday as part of the future season final reward
sand dawn
Lol no
empty inlet
like we have in current winter season
keen gyro
Hello, People just got heartbroken and had an argue with my brother-
empty inlet
(the 2-hearts-cost mask just doesn’t fit the design of winter season, i think)
keen gyro
radiant drum
Chinese version has their own events and it’s not really fair to compare it to our version at all
empty inlet
yeah
radiant drum
Not sure, it doesn’t really concern us either
livid ice
Sad boi hours
radiant drum
Honestly I’m glad our version doesn’t resort to daily logins and similar practices
livid ice
Daily logins would give an extra that would be cool for players that can’t play everyday
Or do full candle runs
sand dawn
Well.......... it sorta does
radiant drum
That’s another discussion entirely
livid ice
Is not lol
empty inlet
they once had more than a month between two season, and really a lot players stop playing Sky because of that
sand dawn
If you have the season pass and want to complete the season, you best log in daily ( although with the extra time, you can miss quite a few days)
quaint onyx
Oh my! Several people are typing! Blessed be, beta's busy!
radiant drum
TGC decides what happens in the global version so any suggestions you may have you can submit in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived or #beta-feedback, but it’s up to them to implement features or not
We don’t have enough information or background and we are not part of the Chinese version to judge what happens there, and hurting over differences will do no good
sand dawn
I log in daily anyway.. I’ll take a Lightseekers mask for that.. or any other reward...
livid ice
Rite
sand dawn
2 months without a season though.. oof
I feel like we get the other extreme.. seasons so close together
But this is good tho
empty inlet
i can describe more details about Chinese version because Netease is somewhat doing a better job in terms of promoting and scheduling activities, although i’m not really playing it, but please also remember they have other chaotic issues since they’re not the one who make the game, so sometimes Netease’s decisions don’t fit the concept of the game
empty inlet
ktjn typing
livid ice
I’ve been here too 😂👌🏻
sand dawn
I should take a shower.. I’ll... I’ll read it later..
Take your time!
vapid briar
Much like Annapurna Interactive is the Publisher for the various Journey ports, NetEase is the publisher for Sky in China. We may make the game, but they ultimately decide how to handle the game and their promotional decisions are made without our input once they receive the game files. This includes things like taking unused assets (such as the Lightseekers NPC mask) and using them for promotional material. The decisions they make are tailored for their audience. If you'd like TGC to do similar things, the best avenue is to place those suggestions in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived and the designers will review them and decide if those suggestions are feasible/fitting for the Global audience. NetEase has a much, much larger team at their disposal to implement some of those things than we do. So even if we would like to do similar promotions, we still have to build our own systems for the Global version of the game.
empty inlet
TGC hiring
livid ice
I am guessing that sky version is only available for some countries
quaint onyx
But wait, on the thing before... waiting for approval was my main idea behind the TBD Android release date
empty inlet
that has nothing to do with the global android release
quaint onyx
If China's someone else's problem... I mean droid's a little more messy than iOS, but its not that hard
I mean, if Zynga can do it!
lusty light
Zygna is a corporation with over 1k employees tho
quaint onyx
Yeah, but not competent employees.
No offense if anyone has family employed by them.
vapid briar
NetEase has definitely helped on the Android front, but I don't really know the specifics since I'm not part of those conversations.
quaint onyx
You guys are some of the best engineers in the biz, I trust you can handle Droid 
vapid briar
They are definitely masters of their craft, but they're still human with 24 hour days like everyone else, haha!
blazing sail
AI’s a good publisher, tho. I doubt they would make any drastic changes to a game.
(Sorry, catching up on the conversation.)
vapid briar
That wasn't why I mentioned them, just referencing that things can and do change when a game goes through a publisher. I know the Journey port to iOS was a little rocky for a while and folks were pretty upset by it.
blazing sail
Yeah, I got some serious motion sickness from the camera, but it was fixed.
It would just spin and spin and spin at first.
Speaking of which... is there any chance you guys are working on the swing camera still?
vivid glacier
quick question, was this weeks travelling spirit shown in beta too?
are the spirits shown in beta gonna be the same in live?
empty river
This spirit wasn’t in beta
vivid glacier
yall had the day grats right
vivid glacier
so like since yall are testing diff spirits and live has different spirits how do the devs know the pricing range and such
lusty light
We aren’t testing different spirits
We really just tested the 1 spirit
The second spirit was there for a day and we don’t know what will happen to it
empty river
Not testing traveling spirits at all anymore afaik
vivid glacier
ah
lusty light
Meanwhile the isle gratitude spirit was there for weeks for us to test
vivid glacier
just to get a sense of how it work and how theyll do the pricing for the rest i assume?
lusty light
Yeah
empty river
I guess we’ll just have to save as much as we can haha
vivid glacier
cus theres confusion in reddit heh
lusty light
TGC like really wants the traveling spirits to be a secret
vivid glacier
mhm
radiant drum
Now they don’t have a choice
empty river
Gotta put it in bold and cursive everytime
radiant drum
We tested the functionality of the traveling spirits in the beta and that’s it, so now it’s 
for all!
vivid glacier
thank yall for the answers! i’ll let some peeps know abt it over there 
arctic pecan
don’t forget to add the lines to make it more dramatic like THIS
empty river
Ah ofc, thanks for the advice
vapid briar
The first time the Sassy spirit and the Salutation spirit arrived, it was using a placeholder framework. The next build had the permanent framework which is why the Sassy spirit returned, and then we just left it on for the duration of January. We've since changed and streamlined the order and pricing of the Traveling Spirit cosmetics and are intentionally hiding the schedule from Beta so the surprise cannot be spoiled ahead of time. Y'all gotta pay attention to #news and social media for a teaser
vivid glacier
thank you!
stray flume
Is there going to be more spots for early access beta?
vivid glacier
!betafaq
gilded parrotBOT
The iOS and Android betas are full at the moment. To join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-announcements! Give yourself the beta role here by tapping the in #old-𝚛ules to be notified of important updates.
This text will not change. If you would like to be a beta tester, please follow the information above.
stray flume
Thank you.
livid ice
I have a question that Ktjn once answered
The travelers could bring what is in the store but here’s the issue
I really need to know if it’s gonna come the wool cape from gratitude or not because it now has a timer
And I don’t wanna miss it forever
After the 52 days are gone
Is there a way y’all could tell if it’s coming or not ? I wasn’t too worried because you know it’s gonna stay in the store one day I’ll get it but not is leaving
Is it coming with a spirit?
ancient kelp
yea i wish they fix it soon
main pivot
