I mean just like imagining or guessing ,to get the cat mask I believe it was 12 seasonal candles and now is 40 candles ,the fluffy coat was 22 I think(? So
#beta-discussion
sand dawn
And that there is a beta update to test a new ult reward
livid ice
That would be interesting
sand dawn
I honestly would be so disappointed if this were it
I mean, it’s a great season
But the ult gifts are so lacking as is..
livid ice
Well if it was the “xylophone” or the piano ,we would get everything sooner or later
sand dawn
The only reason that black mask is there is because of some nostalgia reason
livid ice
I just really liked the transition of the piano from closed to open 
lusty light
There was feedback from other seasons that people were disappointed that they couldn’t get the quest giver mask
So they added it
sand dawn
And the only reason the hair is there is because it’s new
Yes, and I love that they did, but.. the season I complained I couldn’t get the questgiver mask, was lightseekers.. and in that season, the questgiver mask was THE coolest mask
But this is different, this is a black flat mask in a season full of intricate bird masks
blazing sail
I want a black crow mask
So I have an animal mask that looks good with short hairstyles
livid ice
Maybe next season will be something that will make us all b satisfied
Since is gonna be new content
sand dawn
Oh yes..
livid ice
I wonder what it would be 
sand dawn
Already looking forward to that
blazing sail
Well, the masks in the last two seasons were underwhelming
livid ice
I sorta agree
sand dawn
They were
blazing sail
This was the best opportunity for a cool mask as an ultimate gift. And there are plenty of birds to choose from to keep it on theme
sand dawn
They were like an afterthought after they made a bunch of cool capes
rustic imp
A Secretary bird coulda been cool
blazing sail
The deer mask and campfire set the bar so high
sand dawn
I suggested a dark colored kingfisher mask
blazing sail
Yes
sand dawn
To match the outfit colors
blazing sail
Sad that the one dark mask is just a flat human face.
sand dawn
Even the umbrella (I never bother using) was a better ult
livid ice
It was extra tho lol
blazing sail
Yeah the umbrella was just a little redundant tho
livid ice
Two umbrellas sitting there oof
sand dawn
I am talking about the hair
blazing sail
Not sure why they didn’t make the other umbrella a regular item like they planned
sand dawn
The dark mask is the extra
blazing sail
So people could still get an umbrella if they missed the season
sand dawn
But just because there is a penultimate reward.. shouldn’t mean the ultimate can be less ...ultimate
blazing sail
Getting close to release tho. I’m not sure they would change/add items past that point?
sand dawn
If I had known this is how it would turn out.. I wouldn’t have suggested multiple ultimate rewards..
I just didn’t want another Lightseekers situation
blazing sail
Yeah :/
sand dawn
Well, with more players comes more budget..
So even if this is gonna be it.. I have high hopes for future seasons ult trees
livid ice
Maybe they have something prepared for last second and wanna leave it as a surprise (?
sand dawn
I am soooooooo hoping for that
I made another suggestion that I hope they noticed.. we’ll see...
livid ice
Since is “season of rhythm” I think the two instruments as final reward would match and fit more with the theme
sand dawn
Eh, but that would mean there are no instruments with the spirits, unless they add more
sand dawn
Still of the opinion Rhythm isn’t quite the right name anyway.. but I guess that one is set.
past abyss
To me it was more festive than rhythm related. You've got prairie dance and juggling that fit, plus masks.
...Season of Festivals? lol idk
livid ice
Season of Joy?
lusty light
It’s season of rhythm because the spirits stories are based around being a performing troupe, not that we have instruments to play
The same way belonging is about the family belonging with each other, and not really the sky kids
(Which btw was called season of joy in concepts @livid ice)
livid ice
Ahhhhh
rustic imp
@spark lance do you still need help?
spark lance
Yeah
rustic imp
Dm me a code!
spark lance
Sureee
humble fossil
Qq, does anyone know weather the seasons will remain the same and just repeat in a cycle or if there will be new content for future seasons?
rustic imp
TGC won’t re run seasons
So new content
Winter is running in live again becuase the first time was in limited live
humble fossil
Ohoo good news
Was thinking of putting the game down after winter had finished in live but if there will be new content then people might stay around :)
Which is always nice
austere plaza
All my cell phone data is lost. I downloaded the game again, but I couldn't log on to the Google account, prompting "Sign in action cancelled," I don't want to lose my friends. who can help me😭😭😭
I am in China, where the use of Google is very troublesome, with the help of vpn
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austere plaza
I don't know what went wrong. I can't log in to my account. The map has been repeatedly downloaded. After the download is completed, the prompt fails
I am very sad
unique stirrup
managed to get the duck mask before time ran out 
hasty vessel
@austere plaza contact support from the app, if I recall correctly there is a way for tgc to locate your account if you provide them with a list of names of your friends in the game. Give it a shot.
austere plaza
I am already in contact with them, my data is bound to the Google account, but I can't log in anyway, just "Sign in action cancelled."
hollow compass
There's not really anything anyone here can do, I'm afraid. That sounds like a support case.
When it comes to China it's probably also a little difficult to help, since Google itself is actually blocked there. Perhaps your vpn has also been blocked.
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worn field
update 145414 is out
hollow compass
"improvements"... 
kindred bluff
S:0
tara posted something on her youtube about a new traveler (spider/monster mask) being out already but i don't quite know if it's actually there or if it's just replayed footage of gratitude
hollow compass
only Valley downloaded again - I think they fixed the music going down the slope
lunar zealot
@kindred bluff reused footage
kindred bluff
ohhh
hollow compass
She posted the spirit in Wasteland 3 hours ago, but that must be from beta.
lunar zealot
But the wasteland gratitude is not in beta yet? Or did they change fox spirit?
hollow compass
sorry, the Wasteland "Winter" spirit
not sure what this spider/monster mask one is, because it's not a recent post of hers
oh, wait, it was posted 19 hours ago
my bad
tawny prairie
fox spirit gone, don’t think there is any others in yet
worn field
fox spirit’s still there for me
tawny prairie
That i saw, if they brought back yoga again to show tree
I thought they would*
mines empty with no spirit lol
north bramble
When does the season end in beta?
hollow compass
in about an hour
tawny prairie
In like an hour
north bramble
Ok, thanks all 3 of you lmao
north bramble
nah im not even in
tawny prairie
Oh lol
north bramble
just speculating when in the world the live season might start
tawny prairie
I’m surprised they haven’t posted the start date in news yet
they said 23rd in patch notes
but it seems late for them to be like ITS TOMORROW SURPRISE
worn field
that date (23rd) isn’t final
hollow compass
they have said "this week"
tawny prairie
and too late for them to change the ultimate reward lol
north bramble
maybe they're polishing something yeah
tawny prairie
It isn’t final no
north bramble
I mean you never know
hollow compass
but presumably they want us to test this latest patch first?
tawny prairie
But it seems kinda weird to me
hollow compass
I went through the flying race and couldn't really see anything specific
does anyone know what they could have updated?
tawny prairie
I think it was just lighting music fixes?
worn field
maybe it’s just small bug fixes
tawny prairie
Oh lol
north bramble
well personally I'd rather have TGC take their time with the things they publish to a point where they are perfectly happy with themselves
tawny prairie
me too
north bramble
so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
quaint onyx
Which update? Has the been one since the 16th?
worn field
yeah just now
north bramble
what does it include?
worn field
“Improvements and bug fixes”
tawny prairie
Bug fixes of what bugs , idk
quaint onyx
Probably just a fix so candles convert properly
quaint onyx
That's always an issue, lets see how this'n goes
hollow compass
convert how, do you mean?
tawny prairie
well I don’t think they do but I’m curious if there is a feature in store if you bought a pass and don’t use it. like how season candles convert to normal candles.
like obviously people won’t get their money back lol
hushed gate
!betacost
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tawny prairie
not sure if you did the bot command for me but I know beta is free. I’m implying if someone had extra passes while the season ends - what exactly happens to these passes. Since there isn’t a real conversion that could happen for them.
unless maybe they stay on your account and you can use them for other seasons
lunar zealot
We won’t know what will happened to those. Maybe we’ll get our answer with todays reset in beta or we might have to wait and see in live— if those passes make it into it
limber bone
we'll know in 34 mins
tawny prairie
yup that’s why I’m curious haha, I don’t see tgc just deleting people’s passes in live haha
rustic imp
People would spend money on them in live
tawny prairie
but they don’t have a use in beta
rustic imp
Would be rude to just delete them after a season
limber bone
but why would you need them
rustic imp
Cause you use them to gift the pass to friends
radiant drum
Well gift season passes from the pack don’t carry over in live, and they do have a rhythm symbol in beta
So idk
tawny prairie
say you bought the pass for a friend, oh oops someone else gifted them, now you have a pass? Idk lol
rustic imp
You’d have an extra
limber bone
oh wait the spirits don't come each week
tawny prairie
though I don’t think anyone would let a pass just sit on their account
and travellers?
Or weekly release schedule ?
tawny prairie
travellers are the weekend ya, the season will drop all at once
spark lance
something weird happened right now in beta, I was able to read the chat of people that I don't have added 😯
torn gust
oh hey miles!
hollow compass
Oops!
torn gust
its a bug hahaha
hollow compass
That’s quite the bug.
torn gust
the devs are aware of that one though i think!
tardy dove
it's so spooky
spark lance
hahaha you are here
hollow compass
Yeah
tardy dove
seeing other strangers chat without sitting down
hollow compass
Better consider your words carefully
torn gust
yeah its like once you sit down then you can just see anyone elses chat who also sat down, even if theyre standing
quaint onyx
Could too, but it involved standing near a table
Oh, just sitting at any point?
Thought it was just if there was a table anywhere on the map
torn gust
yeah we werent standing anywhere near a table or bonfire
tardy dove
sit down and unlock the power
hollow compass
The new tag!
torn gust
quaint onyx
Ikea the magical translation machine
lusty light
I didn’t sit down though
tardy dove
hmm
well i actually did have my bonfire tucked on the roof of the instrument closet
idk if that had anything to do with it though
spark lance
i didn’t sit, just watching you skiing and out of nowhere i was able to read haha
torn gust
magic
quaint onyx
As it is written; Once a table is placed, all shall be revealed
tardy dove
i have 1 candle to convert
final lance
!er
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lunar zealot
The passes stayed 
hmm
lusty light
Good because I bought 300 of them I want my money’s worth
lunar zealot
Oml Sera
radiant drum
You owe tgc 3000 usd now
lunar zealot
Why me tho 
spark lance
do we keep the gifting thing that was in the shop during the season
spark lance
Wym
atomic trail
My seasonal candles don't converted to normal candles, what about everyone?
I'll submit bug report.
spark lance
I got my candles
lunar zealot
Yeah, i logged in again just now— i got the “thank you for playing the season” message. Good to know i’m not the only one Tea! 
spark lance
0w0
dry pivot
I think mine didn't get converted either but I am not sure how many normal candles I had
lunar zealot
Well, i know I didn’t get any.. was and still is at 0 candles
fresh quiver
Mine didn't convert either
spark lance
well I got my candles I think it’s the seasonal gifting thing that is making the message pop up still
lunar zealot
I’ll put a report in later, i need to skedaddle back to work 
spark lance
hybrid sedge
Guys
spark lance
Yes
atomic trail
bye em! thanks
fresh quiver
But mostly I'm sad that I can't join friends because android doesn't have the update yet
hybrid sedge
Did you guys know where to get the traveler spirit that were in home base?
fresh quiver
It's in isle
spark lance
yes
hybrid sedge
And where is that exactly?
spark lance
the first portal
Yes
then you fly forward then turn right and you should see the spirit
fresh quiver
On the right side, past the cave with a star behind a barrier
spark lance
ye s
spark lance
Yes
hybrid sedge
Thank you
spark lance
final lance
Is there a Update?
final lance
I'm Android and seems like update is not available, yet
hybrid sedge
In here?
spark lance
android I think will have a longer time getting updates since it’s still fairly new
final lance
yeah
hybrid sedge
Wait I can't send the pics
spark lance
Wym
hybrid sedge
I've already near the barrier that In the right after flight
spark lance
If u want to send beta pic go #beta-screenshots-videos
dry pivot
The traveling spirit should be gone by now though
or maybe still there if you haven't updated beta?
dry pivot
oh I see she's back AGAIN lol
dry pivot
I did 
to the spirit at home, with my friend
she listened
spark lance
grim geyser
Question, does anyone know if the fox mask is actually going to stay 50 or change to 40 in live?
final lance
nobody knows
vapid drum
Ok ....... so the extra passes that I’ve ‘purchased ‘ are still in my inventory
torn gust
There to haunt you for all eternity
lunar zealot
Pines.... sneep 
safe swan
Sneep child
hasty magnet
mediatek support when ? 
lunar zealot
Customer support is sleeping now, give it some time
analog cargo
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blazing sail
I’m scared to check. Does the ice rink stay at the end of the season?
empty river
It is ||still there||
blazing sail
Trying to think about which items to go for first in live and my brain just feels like it’s splitting in two
kindred fossil
get what you didnt experience in beta
blazing sail
Well that’s the white cape and owl hair (I shouldn’t have waited). 76 candles for the white cape and I won’t use any of the stuff on the way up there 😦
blazing sail
So hard to choose whether to get instant gratification or save candles for the expensive thing
subtle lion
Do you guys remember all the traveling spirits?
kindred fossil
so far only two showed up, why
sand dawn
So ..this is it then.. the season ended for real in beta..
I was really hoping for a few changes to take place before the live release..
blazing sail
Same
kindred fossil
ONTO LIVE LET'S GOOOOOOOOO
blazing sail
I guess they could still add a super amazing ultimate gift on top of the others?
sand dawn
Also.. to finish the season in beta.. 😔
sand dawn
Oh yes.. if they would just 1>2>3 it ...
Black mask > Owl Hair > super secret ULTIMATE REWARD
I would love that..
Or 2>2>2
kindred fossil
we shall see
sand dawn
I’ve seen hardly any change in the last beta patch
The return shrine is less glowy again,
tables and campfires enable chat and it doesn’t go away when you get up.. (possibly a bug)
Anything else?
Oh the heart gift on the statue is centered again
I heard
Ah yes, and traveling spirits stay for the whole week, probably
kindred fossil
theres no timer?
spark lance
No beta update for android yet?
safe swan
No
spark lance
:v
kindred fossil
broken echo
safe swan
I’m sorry to upset you
hollow compass
Ok, so I unlocked some “new friendship ability” when completing the travelling spirit!
Can anyone confirm what it is? None of my friends are around right now.
I need to find a friend online!
Because that spirit didn’t originally hold any friendship upgrades, to the best of my knowledge.
dry pivot
oof
torn trout
is there any more information on the traveling spirits? how many candles do you think it will take to unlock the fox mask from the season of gratitude?
livid ice
Anyone else didn’t receive the leftover candles ?
kindred fossil
no one did
hollow compass
Yeah, it’s the same bug as last time.
worn field
i got mine
dry pivot
@torn trout it was 50 normal candles (40 + 5 + 5) in total + 2 ascended candles in beta but it can change in live
dry pivot
but we don't know about the red fox mask. it must be more expensive than the white one
kindred fossil
red fluffy cape went for 65
dont know if they notched down the price since sassy spirit wouldnt just leave, theyre here till the end of time
kindred fossil
there are two gifts
dry pivot
2 seasonal hearts for a black mask and 4 for an owl hair
hollow compass
@worn field @kindred fossil but if you log out and back in doesn’t it repeat the candle transfer? It did for me.
livid ice
@hollow compass Im receiving the message everytime I go home ... and still receiving the message from thank you for playing season of belongings in live also
worn field
atipleb it still shows the candle transfer message every time i go home.
spark lance
@livid ice me too XD
livid ice
There should be a lot of pics with the black mask shiny eyes and triangles down the eyes @regal herald
And the owl hair is on the pic TGC posted ,the spirit to the right of the duck mask
Is the owl hair
hollow compass
Yeah, so the transfer bug is back. 🤦♀️
livid ice
Gr8 xD
They told me to delete the game and download back ... I just don’t have WiFi to do that
It takes years
I’m just gonna wait
worn field
what happened for me is i was logged in while the season ended, and i accepted the candle transfer thing but nothing happened. i logged off not much later. then the next time i logged in my candles had increased by the number of seasonal candles i’d had left.
hollow compass
Nah. It’s not that important for beta.
hollow compass
But this is beta...?
livid ice
I know I said also live up there maybe you didn’t read it
hollow compass
Oops
hollow compass
"Exotic" in what way?
blazing sail
Did they change the mask again?
lilac bane
idk i mean i liked how the orange matched with the black😅
spark lance
Thought they changed the mask to old design 😕
livid ice
At this point non of us know what they did they left it as triangles and owl hair for beta
blazing sail
What orange
livid ice
And as no open close piano mode :”(
blazing sail
What are you talking about
blazing sail
They were gold tho?
livid ice
Some of us have trouble distinguishing similar tones or colors
The regular red cape I see it orange most of the times
spark lance
Wait, ORANGE?
lilac bane
oh my is my eye ok
spark lance
blazing sail
I don’t wear human masks when I have animal masks available. But I would have liked a black bird mask to match the sky kids’ skin
lilac bane
i thought it was orange D:
livid ice
I suggested one black bird mask
spark lance
I'm just wearing fox mask everywhere I go XD
crisp plinth
@blissful lintel beta patch notes said 10 weeks
blissful lintel
Thank you!
@crisp plinth
So it’s like 3-4 months!
And if the season will be that long,will the traveling spirits stay for 2 days each?,I think they’re gonna be done before it’s half of the season 
atomic trail
traveling spirit aren't tied with seasonal event
we don't know what they will actually be like in live
livid ice
@blissful lintel traveling spirits are one each week
So they all will last 6 weeks
One each weekend
blissful lintel
Thank you all!
livid ice
3 says - Friday - Saturday- Sunday
lunar zealot
For all you traveling spirit wonderers Ktjn did pin some stuff regarding that here as well. 
livid ice
So basically we have to grind and keep candles saved for stuff we want and we don’t even know if it’s gonna be live?
Awesome ....
orchid nexus
You don't have to.
livid ice
Oh sure what if they do come
dry pivot
save the candles and spend them at once if they did not come!
orchid nexus
think of it as a bonus item. There has been lots of commentary here about whether allowing them at all devalues season pass purchase.
livid ice
I don’t have where to spend the candles mochi
Lol
I stopped grinding a while ago
Started now because I want the coat
orchid nexus
There's literally no way to make everyone happy, but TGC are still trying to make as many people happy as possible.
livid ice
I know that
I just wanted to know beforehand
Like ,maybe they can make a poster of the spirits that are coming?
kindred fossil
🧹
orchid nexus
hard to say what the best approach might be. that might encourage more grinding and less happiness.
But playing beta actually helps me feel less precious about having all the items. If I miss something, meh. I still have some basic items I always return to.
livid ice
I guess all I can do is wait xD
If what I wanted doesn’t come back I would just get upgrades and spend the rest on friends 🤷🏼♂️
kindred fossil
i just need the emotes and couple of masks
tight slate
Tomorrow’s live? :0
kindred fossil
maybe, maybe not
livid ice
The update isn’t even here yet
tight slate
I mean I heard its the 23rd
livid ice
That’s a date TGC gave ,could be an estimate
But isn’t certain
They said next week ,which means this week
Maybe it comes tomorrow ,Friday or Saturday
tight slate
livid ice
Yes ,we all have the same feeling
livid ice
Same same ... all we can do is wait and see
spark lance
I think 999 hearts is wayyy too much just for no cape
livid ice
A lot of us think the same
kindred fossil
its invisible, you can fly with it
spark lance
There is nothing different for the invisible cape, it is only "invisible", it would be right to say that it is "useless", Since you will only waste time to get 999 hearts
but the choice is yours, nobody can interfere
icy falcon
i think 999 is just the right price. it will remain a rare item for a little bit longer that way
kindred fossil
ho boy, once it hits live
livid ice
Agreed Dark
Yeah catch the whole world complaining lmao
There are few players that have 1000+ hearts saved
spark lance
you forgot to write "addict" before players 😂
spark lance
we can say that only those who have played since the beginning of the game, and have generous friends, will be able to get that amount
livid ice
u don’t really need to get the capeless cosmetic there are lots o nice capes to wear to be capeless
spark lance
livid ice
Agreed
@calm bloom what about the ones that got the season pass but came late ,like I actually got the pass for only 2 items
quaint onyx
Jump on the boat with me, forget no cape gimme no pants
quaint onyx
You pull of a feat like that, you've earned the right to go streaking through digital disneyland
spark lance
kindred fossil
no skykid, they dont exist anymore
fresh crater
I’m disappointed finished everything and expected to finally be able to get my 10th star ⭐️ on my cape, who wants a invisible cape For 999 hearts that’s not a reward that’s not a final gift I’m very disappointed
I have a lot of hearts but I’m definitely not spending them on that
orchid nexus
During the regular season, not the accelerated beta season, I believe the wandering spirits will allow us to get up to 120 stars and that 10th wedge! And if you don't want the invisible cape, that's good, you can save your hearts for something else!
fresh crater
Yes I wish I could give them to new players
Well that’s good news I’m glad to hear that thank you for the update
orchid nexus
maybe some other surprises will arrive in new seasons or patches.
fresh crater
I hope till I always like to peek in on you guys and see what’s going on hope you don’t mind
quaint onyx
That would be nice, just to send a heart outright.
fresh crater
Yes I think so too
quaint onyx
Cut out the middle man
rustic imp
I read that as season of patches
orchid nexus
that's what candles are for. if you could just send hearts, scamming and selling hearts would explode
atomic yoke
I mean why waste a year for just being capeless?!
orchid nexus
that's the good thing about this silly-expensive item: if you don't want it, then it has no value and you can ignore it!
blazing sail
I thought there was a point where hearts could be turned into candles?
quaint onyx
Get on the no-pants train!
fresh crater
Yes but they might offer some other things for us to purchase with our hearts
atomic yoke
I mean like, I know it’s too much to afford but sometimes I like going in eden to be capeless but after 15 minutes I got bored
XD
orchid nexus
I think no-cape and invisible-cape are actually different
fresh crater
After finishing the game I would just like something to keep me more interested something once you finished everything that you can continue to use your hearts or purchase items that you can only get once you’re done something
spark lance
Like I say, be capeless is useless, if you can wear capes, why be without them?
fresh crater
I agree
orchid nexus
don't tell, but I saw someone wearing the invisible cape, and they could fly.
orchid nexus
if it made fluffy clouds, I'd be on the jet pack hype train
fresh crater
Wouldn’t it be fun maybe we could spell things in the sky
orchid nexus
you know what the first thing is that we'd see in the sky? probably not a heart.
atomic yoke
Lmaoo Jetpack?! Uh does Sky agree of having jet packs XD
quaint onyx
Oh! If it made that jetson's poot-poot-poot-poot sound
fresh crater
Loll Yes you guys like that idea
atomic yoke
XD
orchid nexus
put it in the suggestions channel. cloudpack would be amazing
fresh crater
Ok will do
spark lance
it would be nice if we could make our own music notes, and leave them so that other players can play them too
orchid nexus
that's a cool idea
quaint onyx
Hey! Not too many ideas. No-pants sky-dance still takes top priority
atomic yoke
hhh
orchid nexus
even if the regular message candles could record music instead of only text
atomic yoke
I’m thinking of the skykids getting new hairstyles
orchid nexus
send that one to suggestions channel too. I'd be really excited to leave musical messages
fresh crater
I just need some music lessons for real
spark lance
Me too 
atomic yoke
Same here
sand dawn
cue the rickrolls
kindred fossil
cue the megalovanias
onyx plaza
So I noticed for the new dance emote (upgraded) that the funky beats become very quiet after 4-5 presses on the grid "keyboard". Has this happened to anyone else or maybe it's just me? Usually when I pull it up its loud for a few taps and then its non existent, maybe sometimes I'll hear a trebel snare sound but most of the time its just my skykid spazzing with no sound.
kindred fossil
every emote is like this
crisp plinth
I'm thinking that has something to do with emote spam
kindred fossil
yeah, the sound fades away the more you spam it
crisp plinth
It'll be possible to get 10 wedges when we've encountered four different wandering spirits I think
Rn we've only gotten two
icy falcon
116 includes the extra star
lunar zealot
I assume it works like regular wing buffs which you have to be in ||orbit|| to collect
lusty light
Yeah you just need to be ||reborn like how you would get your other wing buffs, you’ll see the seasonal spirit hand you the star||
crisp plinth
What will happen when we reach eleven
lusty light
Ktjn said it’s possible to get level 11 already but it won’t be reflected on the cape yet
lunar zealot
They have to optimize the cape wedges when we get to that. So I’m curious to how they’ll tackle that
crisp plinth
Are the missing stars on capes a bug?
lunar zealot
Most likely yeah, it is
lunar zealot
As we rightfully should, it is exciting
lunar grail
Im excited to finally have that last star on the cape also be outlined! 😄
woeful lodge
Someone mentioned yesterday that a previous version of the game had the star then an outline then there was a partial second outline so the outlines would extend sideways as they pile up while not running into each other vertically.
@lunar zealot posted a screenshot at 1pm MST yesterday.
In the beta screenshots
I think that has a lot of potential for 11+
And in my mind 16-20 would just be doubled
How many lights is the 9th wedge?
tardy dove
100 WL
woeful lodge
The wiki says:
1 Wedge = 1 WL
2 Wedges = 3 WL
3 Wedges = 6 WL
4 Wedges = 10 WL
5 Wedges = 20 WL
6 Wedges = 35 WL
7 Wedges = 55 WL
8 Wedges = 75 WL
9 Wedges = 100 WL
Thanks Granny
So the gaps are
+2
+3
+4
+10
+15
+20
+20
+25
+20 (to get to 10)
So to get to 11 wedges will likely require 25-30 additional WL, which is more than we’ll get from traveling spirits from all of the previously released live seasons, especially considering that 4 WL from travelers will go toward wedge #10.
icy falcon
was there an update? google playstore hasn't updated for me
kindred fossil
there was, android is taking its sweet time
icy falcon
; w ;
game told me i needed to update to join a friend but then it let me join them anyway
then when we went home i couldn't join them again
oh turns out my friend hasn't updated either so this just turned into a bug report
spark lance
Can anyone show me the update notes for the IOS beta?
empty river
They are in #beta-announcements in the 10th of January post
spark lance
I mean the actual notes, from apple store, I just want to see a spoiler
lunar zealot
Todays testflight update just says “improvements and bug fixes”
spark lance
Like the usual, ty
kindred fossil
i got 0 cause i aint in the beta
exotic atlas
mmm they changed the prices on the isle gratitude spirit though so i don't think we have enough info to make estimates
sand dawn
rough estimates
spark lance
@sand dawn
If you go straight through the nodules
Fox Mask
2 spells = 10 candles
Fox mask = 40 candles
2 candles of Eden
Red cape (spirit of stretching)
2 spells = 10 candles
Red cover (old price) = 65 candles
4 candles of Eden
15 candles for the evolution of the emote (lv. 3)
125 candles
6 candles of Eden
The unlocking of the plus version of the emote is 6 hearts, but may have changes, since the spirit of the fox mask had prices for the nodules decreased
kindred fossil
like 500 candles
spark lance
:v
sand dawn
I estimate the cape will be 50 candles
modest crag
I am now tempted to buy candles
spark lance
sand dawn
celest yarrow
spark lance
my candles were converted, maybe this happens only on IOS, I didn't see any of my Android friends complain
spark lance
cinder lagoon
@lunar zealot Hi guys! Somebody checked this? Mb something change in cosmetics?
lunar zealot
What do you mean?
cinder lagoon
In patchnotes, there was something about fixes and minor improvements. I thought that someone had already noticed some of this. In general, it doesn’t matter.
lunar zealot
Ahh i see! No, I haven’t seen any changes with todays update.
cinder lagoon
Oki, thx!
bold tree
is the maintenance over?
clear portal
Just curious...do iOS beta updates role out over several days? I get the notice on Discord but can’t seem to cause my game to update. Days later I get an update prompt at startup. Not an issue but a bit jealous of the in crowd. 🤓
lunar zealot
iOS beta updates should be the same across the entire platform (Apple, TestFlight)
Though i guess there is bound to be some hiccups from Apple from time to time?
TestFlight updates are a bit different than normal AppStore ones as well. Since the game itself won’t tell you to update. Enabling notifications from the TestFlight app in device settings should give you a notification each time Sky Beta has an update though. As not all build updates gets put in #beta-announcements due to how “minor” they might be.
spark lance
You should also receive an update email from TestFlight
Open TestFlight > Notifications > enable Push Notifications and Email Notifications
What shows in device settings is different; it's for sounds, badges, banners, etc.
median idol
are all of the spirits being released on first day or is it weekly release for them
kindred fossil
all at once
median idol
oh yay
lusty light
@pine relic please don’t talk about hacked items here
kindred fossil
no where
orchid nexus
Discussing hacks will get you a warning here. Sharing pictures of hacks might get you muted. Doing hacks can get you banned from the game entirely.
sand dawn
So I did some rough estimates..
I think we’ll need about 540 candles just for gratitude spirits .. and then there’s the ultimate reward (no idea what currency or how much)
livid ice
Or if it’s gonna be a spirit and not a pack in the store
smoky meadow
😳
livid ice
Or if it’s even gonna be added
sand dawn
I’m pretty sure it will be added
livid ice
They adding a gratitude pack in the store ,I’m sure is gonna be that mask
Don’t know about the others
sand dawn
I can’t imagine they would leave Android without a cosy campfire
So therefore the other ults will likely also be available
livid ice
Let’s a hope
kindred fossil
not all the items will return with the traveling spirits
livid ice
Yes ... we know
sand dawn
Said who ?
tardy dove
pins
blazing sail
I selfishly don’t want the deer mask to come back this way.
kindred fossil
oh there you are
blazing sail
I’d be fine with the whole season returning
livid ice
It won’t
blazing sail
But if it’s just sold in a pack..Blargh
livid ice
Like the piano
kindred fossil
it wont, it will, purely speculation, who knows
livid ice
Exactly ^
sand dawn
I’d feel sad if I could never have the deer mask simply because I didn’t understand some things as a moth
livid ice
But if they bringing wandering spirits the season won’t be added again
blazing sail
Yeah I know
livid ice
Maybe 5 -6 years
blazing sail
So I’m worried it will just be sold as a pack
livid ice
Maybe less
Who knows
I mean if they sell it as a pack for 20 dollars they paying way more than you
So I think is legit
blazing sail
Not “way” more but it’s more the fact that they get it instantly
livid ice
Oh yeah that of course
blazing sail
Kinda loses its meaning
tardy dove
yeah something feels wrong about putting the deer mask in a pack
livid ice
Like the guys who start playing and have elders already by buying candles
sand dawn
I think the best way to do it would be to add them like the elders in eden
kindred fossil
a mask
sand dawn
Only available when all items from the spirits of that season are unlocked
blazing sail
If all the gratitude spirits are returning, then they can’t make one of them a pack. So it probably would be the deer
livid ice
Yep
sand dawn
Sure they can make some a pack AND have the travelers
livid ice
I mean geez I feel the same way lol,the only two things I got from gratitude was the weasel fox mask and the orange cape
And hey everyone will b wearing that now
pine relic
@blazing sail personally I don’t like the deer one
blazing sail
Yeah it’s a bit of a dilemma
livid ice
Yeah I’m already looking for other aesthetic ...
blazing sail
Bc the pass exclusives are now no longer exclusives
livid ice
Im gonna be wearing winter for a while till everything sets up
kindred fossil
they are exclusive for 4 months until theyre replace by some other exclusives
livid ice
Well it’s been a while and is kinda fair(? I mean ... TGC is the only company I know put a season as soon as the game went live ... how I was gonna supposed to know about Sky and then how the season worked
sand dawn
I feel you dae, I love my cozy fluffy cape and worked really hard to get it (with only 3 seasonal candles a day it was a very long way)
livid ice
I knowww right
blazing sail
Yeah I only narrowly got my deer mask.
livid ice
I got the pass only 7 days after the event finished
blazing sail
I didn’t even know I could get it until shortly before the season was ending and then I was in panic mode
livid ice
All thanks to my friend
kindred fossil
rip campfire
blazing sail
Bc I wasn’t sure I’d get it
Now I never take it off
But
I might be a dodo/duck for a bit
Will have to see how I feel
sand dawn
I wish someone back then would’ve told me you can buy extra candles when you have the pass
blazing sail
You would have done that?
blazing sail
Ahh yeah. Good point. Maybe I should add that to my guide
sand dawn
So I gave up on the pass because I would be paying the full price and not have the full package
livid ice
I didn’t have the money to get anything back then .... I actually finished the game without spending money all my passes were bought for friends until belongings i bought it for em
So Rip the idea of buying everything on the last moment
XD
somber venture
Since Rhythm is coming this afternoon my time after reset, I’d like to ask something:
Are the Traveling Spirits confirmed to cone along?
livid ice
It may not .... we don’t know for sure when is coming
🤷🏼♂️
The update isn’t even here yet
lusty light
We don’t even know if the season is coming tomorrow or not
livid ice
And wandering spirits are weekly
lusty light
This is why we say don’t take the beta patch notes as gospel
livid ice
Every weekend
somber venture
Ah, I see 
livid ice
They do come along with the season on that update
somber venture
Yay~ same order?
somber venture
rustic imp
We don’t know how anything will work in live XD
livid ice
Exactly
blazing sail
I really hope the season doesn’t come just as I’m leaving for the movies tomorrow 😬
vapid briar
This is why the beta patch notes have the disclaimer at the top saying things are subject to change, though I should probably add that the information contained therein is only accurate for the build they were published for, since much of the information in there is already out of date.
tawny prairie
honestly I didn’t expect it tomorrow due to the lack of news :p ,
vapid briar
I tried to meet the demands for clarity and transparency in this patch cycle, which is why the notes are as detailed and comprehensive as they are, but as you all have seen, much of it was for naught as things continue to change from one build to the next and creates a lot of confusion.
sand dawn
Ktjn, are we at least gonna get a day’s notice before it launches?
Preferably a few days..
vapid briar
Technically you've had 2 weeks of notice since you're part of beta.
sand dawn
Well yes, but I don’t ask this for me
vapid briar
And we've posted in news and on social channels the season is coming, advance notice has been given, so I'm unsure what you're asking for.
sand dawn
I just think it would be a good policy to give a few days notice as to exactly when it will air
quartz fable
They don’t know exactly when-
tawny prairie
I think lilichi is saying that’s it’s nice to have a date for event starts
vapid briar
We do our best to give as much information ahead of time as we can. Game development moves very fast with a lot of moving parts all at once.
sand dawn
Yes.. that
livid ice
,they may still fixing some stuff ,maybe stuff besides the season
lusty light
I think they don’t give exact dates because things can very easily fall off schedule
livid ice
Yep
lusty light
It’s better to be vague than to upset people with a deadline they didn’t make
tawny prairie
yup and this isn’t like other games that have set events from day 1 to last day so I’m not surprised at the changes
vapid briar
Essentially that, yes. Right now we're fixing some issues that are potentially game-breaking that didn't raise their ugly little heads this whole test cycle until now and we're working around the clock to address them before moving forward with a Live release.
sand dawn
How about not giving a date until it’s deemed ready to release and THEN give an exact date (2 days notice) and use those extra days to polish a few inessential things about it?
blazing sail
I think it wouldn’t be so bad if it gets pushed off a day or two and releases on the weekend
livid ice
They didn’t give an exact date
sand dawn
I know...
quartz fable
Ooooof ppl are never happy
sand dawn
But a week was given, no?
livid ice
Yeah they said this week but something happened
Ktjn just said something that didn’t show on the game started happening and they can’t launch the update with that issue
tawny prairie
which happens a lot, I’m happy we haven’t had large scale server issues like other apps
sand dawn
Best of luck with those issues, can you tell us more about them?
vapid briar
Like I said, we were on schedule until things weren't at the very last minute, this was an unexpected problem that no one could have anticipated, even if we adhered to your suggestion, we'd still be in the same predicament we are now.
sand dawn
oof..
vapid briar
I can't really distill years of game development insight into a single discord message. If you want to understand game development more, I highly recommend checking out YouTube videos put by GDC from game makers talking about their struggles during development.
hybrid wedge
It’s not always possible to tell in advance which fixes will be merely polishing, and which might be Actual Problems, so putting them off til the last minute could still lead to a delay and unnecessarily disappoint people.
blazing sail
Is this related to that mysterious item that we’re supposedly not allowed to talk about? (Is this gonna get deleted?)
vapid briar
The mysterious item you're probably referring to is an old, unused game asset that only hackers can access. It's completely unrelated.
vapid briar
It's pretty easy to frame unused assets as something "new" to drum up youtube views.
jagged rune
😂
livid ice
Lmao
rustic imp
Sigh the times we live in where we want to spread lies
jagged rune
Touché
blazing sail
Some of us were hoping it was a secret ultimate gift. 😦
livid ice
Oof
blazing sail
Hint hint
sand dawn
I wasn’t.. tbh 
keen turtle
@vapid briar thank you for answering all our questions, you're awesome
livid ice
Me either xD
blazing sail
God how do I stop all my frowny faces from turning into a shocked emoji?
rustic imp
Turn it off in settings?
livid ice
How
hybrid wedge
Discord settings, there’s a switch
sand dawn
I did like 3 suggestions for an ult reward.. I am rooting it’ll be one of those! 😅
quartz fable
I’m happy with the ultimate rewards now yyeeee
tawny prairie
What really ):
blazing sail
I dunno where the setting is
hasty marten
Ok so why is the fox mask spirit still there haha
tardy dove
it's in text & images app
rustic imp
Here’s a support article about it
tardy dove
but i think it's only on desktop F
spring cloak
Scroll down to emoji
hybrid wedge
No I have it on iOS too
tardy dove
ahh
blazing sail
I can’t find it in the iOS settings
spring cloak
It only works for me on PC
sand dawn
It seems to me that’s one of the changes, she sticks around longer, hopefully the whole week
tardy dove
yeah i can only see that setting on my laptop
tawny prairie
I thought sassy was just glitched, didn’t even think to think it was changed to a week maybe
hybrid wedge
Derp I read too fast. What Granny Pigeon said.
I was just testing to see if you were paying attention ^^
blazing sail
Well each day the spirit says there’s hours left
tardy dove
hehe
blazing sail
But she’s still there the next day
tawny prairie
Hmm
blazing sail
So could be a bug
tawny prairie
maybe she just likes us
livid ice
Awe
tardy dove
oh yeah she was meant to go home a while ago huh
livid ice
Yep
valid hull
Man now that traveling spirits are staying for a week, i have to wait even longer for the red bunny mask >_>
valid hull
...
livid ice
I’m praying for us
rustic imp
It’s no different from before
lusty light
If they’re staying for a week they’d still come weekly tho
rustic imp
They would only come on the weekend
tardy dove
yeah
blazing sail
The longer they take the better bc you can earn more candles 😛
livid ice
Exactly
rustic imp
Which is once a week
valid hull
:0 oh ye
rustic imp
And you know what you can get
valid hull
So they did they confirm that traveling spirits will stay for a week?
livid ice
They haven’t say anything
Is just saying because ... but we don’t know
They haven’t announce everything
There’s not more patch notes
sand dawn
Still think this is gonna have a big impact on where most players focus will be..
Gone are the days of spending all your earned candles from a day on a friend.. because if you do, you’ll miss out on a limited time item
livid ice
They may announce a bunch of stuff in some hours
valid hull
Ye they might
livid ice
You’re right Lilichi but depends on the priorities of the player
valid hull
And the ficus id alrrady long gone people have been grjnding like craxy for the fox and capes
;--;
My grammar is so bad
livid ice
I still earn all candles daily grinding and spend 4-9 on friends
lunar grail
Did TGC ever confirm which animals the gratitude masks are anyway cos i swear the red pointy one is a fox and the white one is a... cat?
valid hull
Apparently the white one is a weasel??
livid ice
@lunar grail for now only those two have appeared ... maybe all spirits come buttt not every cosmetic
People call it fox / cat mask
lunar grail
Oh weasel is cute
lunar grail
Yeah...
vapid briar
the one on the Traveling Spirit is the weasel mask, the red grumpy looking one is the fox mask, but a lot of people call them fox and rabbit masks, respectively.
livid ice
Yeah xD
prime belfry
Love the red grumpy one
lunar grail
Ohh red grumpy is so cute! I love it
sand dawn
Not if you want to get it all in one go tho, maybe you’d be doing a few heart trades fir the upgraded emotes, you’ll need high five to trade, might want to hug your good friends, but that’s what I think will be the extend of new players venturing into friendship trees, for the most part
prime belfry
Qr way to go
sand dawn
Ofc Qr for free chat
spark lance
I think that's taking it to an extreme, not the way I know a lot of players actually play
spark lance
I still see it now and then but I truly hope it doesn't make it to live
vapid briar
we don't explicitly say what the names are in the game, but we have internal names because we have to pick a name for the file and make sure the naming conventions are consistent in all the spots they need to be so it doesn't break the game. and sometimes the external name doesn't line up with the internal name or its description is kind of vague or up for interpretation. like the "Ukulele" looks a lot like a shamisen. The not-piano instrument for Season of Rhythm could be called a number of things based on what it looks like and/or sounds like, but we had to settle on a name for the game file, haha.
sand dawn
I think the time pressure and “won’t return for a long time!” Will change how many players will approach what to unlock.. but then I guess.. they will go for favorites and leave the rest for the second and third time around
spark lance
A couple times lately too I've seen hearts over beta players' heads
"not-piano" sounds so zen!
spark lance
yes, a little white heart over their heads, but I'm not sure what it means yet
prime belfry
Wow
spark lance
I'm in beta everyday and have only seen it a couple of times
prime belfry
I visit every day to must BOLO
spark lance
yeah could be
livid ice
Only shepherds can see newbies badges and only newbies can see shepherds badges seraph talked about it
vapid briar
oh the white heart is the newbie badge, it used to be the yellow/green one.
livid ice
Ah i remembered right
spark lance
ah ok, thanks Ktjn.
prime belfry
I want to be a shepherd how do I become
sand dawn
I think I’ve seen a white diamond outline with a lil heart in it
spark lance
You can read about it in the #590700594662998016
vapid briar
discord shepherd or in-game shepherd?
prime belfry
In game
spark lance
sorry I misunderstood you, Rose
white garnet
i think so
vapid briar
the shepherd only exists on beta, there's a meter that increases based on [redacted]
white garnet
omg
spark lance
hahaha
prime belfry
Redacted lol
white garnet
the unknown part is the fun part
livid ice
You can check on the top right corner of ur friend stars the little badge @prime belfry
vapid briar
i should have done ||redacted||
livid ice
You can always edit ur message lol
prime belfry
Thank you @livid ice
livid ice
❤️
vapid briar
(edited)
y'all will know my shame!
white garnet
omg
rustic imp
No one will know which part was edited
shrewd plover
Question-
Are iOS and Android betas currently on different versions?
livid ice
Hahahhahaha
vapid briar
yes, i believe Android is behind a build, we had some delays in verifying some things overnight.
you should still be able to play on different versions with others.
blazing sail
Btw, Sky was one of my top GOTY and I didn’t tell any of the staff bc my blurb was half negative 😬
shrewd plover
I can't join the same session as my girlfriend and vice versa, says mine needs updating
She's iOS, I'm Android
prime belfry
Sometimes I can't get to friends on older versions
Tapping foot waiting for them to get back to the future
blazing sail
And it was getting too long to try and balance it out so yeah
vapid briar
criticism is fine so long as it's constructive. ||looks at you feedback channel ||
shrewd plover
Yeah, I haven't been able to reach anyone who may be playing a different version
Usually me though lol
prime belfry
@vapid briar big sky hug
white garnet
there's a difference between "i dont agree with this and this is how you can improve" vs "THIS SUCKS YOU SUCK A" :')
shrewd plover
^
prime belfry
Here's to constructive
livid ice
Well y’all are expecting it since a lot of players are kids ,and kids are kinda difficult to manage ,they don’t know what they want or not
Not saying all of them but
vapid briar
good feedback doesn't even need to include solutions, honestly adding solutions/suggestions to feedback sometimes muddies it because usually the solution being suggested may not be feasible due to technical or time limitations.
vapid briar
Best thing about kids is they can learn, but so can adults.
prime belfry
Kids have their own wisdom
livid ice
Well anywho like I said once and Alex said also not all of us can be pleased at the same time there will be a lot of more new stuff added soon ... personally I’m okay with all ultimate rewards but isn’t like I really loved any ,I think they’re okay and that’s okay ,soon something else will come for me
vapid briar
often adults are a lot more vicious than children because children usually don't have a filter so what their saying can already be boiled down to its pure form. Adults usually have a better handle on language and will veil animosity behind softer word choice.
prime belfry
I love my campfire with a fiery loyalty
white garnet
ya theres no way you can please everyone \o/ ive only been around for a short time but i do like all the rewards ive seen
prime belfry
It's the simple things
rustic imp
Just give me flying and I’m good any day
shrewd plover
Same Solveig!
vapid briar
haha, i feel that way about the umbrella, Rose.
I don't use it much but I love it the most out of all the props.
prime belfry
I love making figure 8 with my contrails while flying in low grav
sage mulch
Yeah, that, and I feel like it’s the norm to be real rude on the internet, and sometimes that kinda spills into the feedback section. People are too used to assuming that someone’s the absolute worst because of a couple mistakes.
white garnet
like flicking it so you spin
blazing sail
If the ice rink was out before I wrote my little blurb, that probably would have balanced the whole thing out
livid ice
Ktjn have they think about holding the umbrella with only one hand? So we can use the candle to burn plants and turn on candles with the other?
....
I would use it a lot more if this was possible
prime belfry
I use umbrella after eden when I'm new born and tender
white garnet
incinerate the mushrooms with the sheer power of the umbrella
vapid briar
I've mentioned it in many, many feedback reviews. We're aware of it, but I don't know the amount of actual dev work that would go into fixing that.
blazing sail
Honestly, I stopped carrying the umbrella once I got my campfire
vapid briar
What seems like a little fix may actually take days or weeks for multiple people to fix, we're a tiny team so that work to fix that one thing on the umbrella may mean some other feature has to be pushed back or dropped entirely.
blazing sail
If I run out of light, I just duck under something and whip it out
white garnet
pro tip close out the entire game out of fear like me
livid ice
Lolol
blazing sail
I’m secretly hoping nothing comes along that makes me choose between my campfire and something equally as awesome
livid ice
I’m actually always carrying my firework stuff ... is nerfed .. but still cute
white garnet
a campfire but it flies
livid ice
Lol
solid wraith
Fun fact: the campire flies in vault 🤣
white garnet
omg
prime belfry
That true
sand dawn
(My campfire can already fly)
prime belfry
rim shot
livid ice
Dead xD
solid wraith
Mine just yeeted in vault
sand dawn
I can place and land on it in midair
prime belfry
Skills
sand dawn
And recharge there..
prime belfry
Fancy flyer indeed
white garnet
woah
livid ice
This technique has been using since chair- table times
XD
Just without recharging
XD
white garnet
is it possible to learn such power
median idol
there is not a gif of villagers hitting wit net . wow
prime belfry
Off topic how does everyone feel about a raccoon mask
Trash panda ...anyone
Cute little round ears
vapid briar
i am a trash panda irl, I support this as a fellow player.
As a dev, please post in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived
prime belfry
Roger that
gilded tree
prime belfry
Or...........Oreo mask dun dun dun
somber venture
Ahhhh
limber falcon
Does anyone remember how much it costs to buy an extra gift pass? I saw it was a thing but didn't pay attention to the price
rustic imp
$10
prime belfry
9.99
limber falcon
okay thank you!
rustic imp
USD
spark lance
I am having a bit of a problem
livid ice
What is it :”0 @spark lance
spark lance
I just cant join my friend and it is frustrating I am already getting help though
livid ice
Ah nice then
hybrid wedge
@spark lance for reference, it’s best to ask any questions involving the beta in this channel. People in the other sections usually don’t play the beta and so they aren’t likely to have enough info on what could be happening.
We also keep beta chat here to avoid accidentally putting spoilers in the live channels, too
livid ice
It might be the same issue that other person asked up there ^ different game versions since Ktjn said iOS has an update that android doesn’t have and people can’t seem to join
spark lance
Ah ok ok