#beta-discussion
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Cant wait to become a birb
I read on the comments on the AppStore that someone heard aviary was coming back but as a different version (?

TGC said they have plans of bringing the aviary back reworked if they find a better place for it in-game
Cute
That’s why they removed it in the first place
Gotchu ,maybe another level
Maybe the ice rink is the start of it? The pillars are not ice so 
wasteland aviary
Home is pretty much a mini aviary
instead of climbing a tower you fall down the pit of death filled with 700 crabs
that's nice to hear, I've been longing for the aviary for awhile
Honestly I’m really excited for the lightbringer spirits. Everyone deserves a chance to earn an umbrella. It’s such a unique and important tool!
ye, I hope over time, the prices will lower? because eventually there will have been plenty of seasons, and new players might feel discouraged seeing all that past stuff and then seeing that it's a lot of work for one spirit's tree
I haven't seen the prices since the last update though so sorry if this changed!
Hi guys, I really wanted to ask here. Why did the developers change the hair-style of the juggler? True, the old version looked much bigger and cooler. I am sad, really looking forward to this spirit for the sake of this hair-style ;-;
its explained in beta patch notes http://bit.ly/SkyBeta144968
Ah ;-;
ah, I still hope it lowers a bit over time, but for now that seems okay?
it seems fair to me
It turns out that the old version will not be returned in any way? Sad ... A similar problem with a winter piano. Ok, thx for the answer
I'm saying like when there's many more spirits in the future, there will be a lot to unlock for new players! kind of like how some games lower in-game currency costs for past events a year later when the event would normally roll around again (I know sky wont repeat seasons though)
but for now yes, it's alright
Do all the seasonal spirits come at once or is it one at a time again?
@coarse jungle they’re going to be released all at once
Thanks, I appreciate it
Is buying pass for 3 ppl bundle still gonna be a thing? I only see buy pass for 1 friend rn
both are available
Thank you
The 3-pass gift bundle is still available. We added the single gift pass option in this patch as we've received a lot of feedback of people wanting to gift more than 2 passes in a season. Some things were reworked to accommodate that change on the back end.
That's nice!
how much will the 1 person pass be?
From what we see in beta, still $10 USD as previous passes
Did the price of candles on the orange cape change at all
Because ive seen the price of the fox mask change and wanted to know
We don’t know yet until that spirit makes a return
Oh i thought it already came bak
It did, for 24h. But that was before the price changes
I saw a video of taras sky journey showing how to get that spirit and it was a few hours old so i thoughtit came bak

But i hope the price get lowered

We’ll have to wait and see 
wait did the fox mask price really change?
Yeah, from 50 to 40 candles
oh geez I just noticed even if they open more slots for beta, they make announcements around 1 am est, so I’ll probably wake up too late to join the beta :(
@exotic atlas rly? 😳
They will space out the announcements I believe Mayo. So everyone have a shot at joining. The last one was late though [for me].
@cinder lagoon yes, Ktjn stated so here (if you channel-search her name), and the in-game text in beta also reflects it 
beta would be cool but im not really an observer for testing lol
I got beta but don't have time to candle run it since i grind 2 hrs per day for live already
@lunar zealot a w e s o m e. Thx ^^
We do try to space out invites to be conscious of other regions, but keep in mind TGC is located in California (PST Time Zone) and beta slots typically open up during our office hours.
alright
I'm trying to submit something to the feedback channel but a discord bot is saying I can't send a message there, is there a hidden character limit? I know that you can't send stuff over 2k characters but mine is under that limit
@cinder lagoon I really wanted the old juggle hair too. It was way cooler.
the feedback channel has a slow mode timer on it.
though you haven't posted within that time limit, so i'm not sure what error you're encountering.
I'll try to put it into a document and see if I can post that instead
alright I'll try that first
I can see that you’re typing on that channel @limber falcon so good luck. Hope it goes through.
here's what the bot says: Your message could not be delivered because you don't share a server with the recipient or you disabled direct messages on your shared server, recipient is only accepting direct messages from friends, or you were blocked by the recipient. which doesn't make sense since I'm messaging a server, not a person ;; ah well
yeah that's definitely a discord bug/issue. it's not coming from a bot but the app itself.
thank you for the suggestion though, I'll try some other stuff, if it doesn't work, it's okay since I saw some of my feedback already mentioned by others
that's so odd. If you'd like, you can DM it to me.
Discord has some issues with that sometimes, for me retrying to send the message after a couple minutes usually works
nevermind, I ended up losing the message because my phone refreshed it ;-;
thank you though
Ok burning with curiosity, why all the massages about sheep in shipyard beta
I tried to hold my curiosity in but...
omg lmao is it really??
Yes!!! And it’s killing me that there might be an Oreo game but with sheep
Just to point out I have seen no sheep. Just messages about them
sheeps?
I believe that's what they call the newbies since experienced players are shepherds? Sheep herders..
A conspiracy 
Imagine if there were actual sheep and we just didn't notice 
They must have been hiding real good if there were 
Not that I wouldn't adore sheep in the game. Imagine them in the butterfly fields in prairie 😄
I’d love that. Jumping sheeps!
omg yes 
Oof
HHEELLPP
I need someone to friend me and join something
We need 8 people and we have 7
HURRYY
Uh
So for the beta, the returning spirits, will only two return?
it’s every weekend a spirit should return
it got changed back to the stance since the tree got updated for us to test
*though if you already bought the items you wouldn’t know haha
Hey do ultimate gifts come back?
@spark lance still need help?
@unreal wasp we don’t know yet
Oh
So I heard Android was gonna be out in about a month?
You heard or u read? Lol


Wait what
I need to know as well

I just want it to be on android so bad so my friend can playy 
Same
Hes missing out
January 19, 2020 Emily Gera
Sky: Children of the Light will be brought to consoles.
Speaking to MCV, thatgamecompany co-founder and creative director Jenova Chen confirmed that the studio’s social adventure game will be coming to PlayStation 4 and Nintendo Switch.
“Our game runs on iPad, on PC, it will run on console in the future. Android [should come] within a month. In the future, it’s going to cross all platforms. And whether you have PlayStation or Switch we will support crossplay.”
I read this ,I wanna know if it’s true
I think it is (?
Or I wanna think it is
Sky can run on PC?
What time was it written
YES ON SWITCH
Yes and console apparently
It sounds like hopeful speculation. A release date will be announced by TGC themselves when there is one
Android seems like it’s nearing global launch with limited live release
But a lot can happen and they might push it back until they’re sure it’s ready
How much is the cape and kitsune-like mask worth as the returning spirits? It’s almost impossible for me to find out in beta lol
@finite current the mask by itself is 40 candles but to get to it u need to unlock two spells that worth 10 candles
It’s almost impossible for anyone to guess really ^^
And ascend the spirit which is 2 candles
Oh right ^ but I think is the ones that have already been here?
It’s in prairie, in that cave, the red cap from gratitude
The orange cape is 65 but to get there there’s a 15 candle upgrade ,2 spells 10 candles
And ascended is 4 red eden candles
And those are all prices in the beta which means it could change
We’ll only really know when it’s live
@livid ice thank you so much, that answered everything!
@finite current the special upgrades 2 and 4 are 4 hearts and 6 hearts respectively
Forgot to mention that
Did they change the ultimate reward from the owl hair?
Oh ok
@spark lance flying kiss emote will appear in the next season, “season of rhythm”
Thx you sir for the kinda information

no problem!
Is this the first time in beta that players can't get everything from the season? I joined beta in the last wave for iOS so I'm not entirely sure how it was for the previous seasons
The iOS and Android betas are full at the moment, @glossy breach. To join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-announcements! Give yourself the beta role here by tapping the
in #old-𝚛ules to be notified of important updates.
i think so
it's not
Ahh okay I see. Is there any reason why? : 0
Maybe because devs thought it should only be tested the amount of days they gave ,maybe
The point of beta isn’t to get every cosmetic, they just want us to test to see if the main features are working
@prime belfry ... I don’t want extra arms 😅
lol
Lol
Well maybe I got carried away there
Evolution yes thank you couldn’t think of the darn word
At first when I started playing I thought chibies were like the perfect form ,the form u get after finishing - going tru eden
Chibi are evolved
XD
how about an even smaller chibi
yes! those with a chibi mask we can be Cupid
Kawai xD
extra arms would also be cool tho
I like Atlantean's art of godly children in the feedback channel. one of them had extra arms
There’s a website claiming the Android global release will happen at the end of February, though they don’t seem to have sources so I’m not sure where they’re getting this info from. Is this true?
Oh nvm
There is something there
I guess you guys can tell Android players to look forward to February
Saying android should come within a month isn’t the same as confirmation. A release date will come from TGC and their communication channels when there is one
It’s still being optimized and in beta/limited live so probably close to launch, but a lot can happen ^^
I know that okay? But it’s better than telling Android users time after time “We don’t know.”
This ain't a science here, it's programming.
.....you know what I mean
Been waiting for them to announce Switch and Console support though. Knew it was only a matter of time.
I know its not confimed but with Vulkan running the show, its a no brainer
And probably what's been pushing back the Android release cycle
is crossplay between PC and consoles and mobile OS easy?
i was wondering cuz many other online games do not support such crossplay
how does the owl hair look like?
@livid ice i see daesparks mentioned about owl hair
Once you standardise the data, it's all gravy. Pass the data to AWS, they do their mumbo-jumbo on the server side, and cross-play should be compatible regardless of system
that sounds promising and witchcraftly
Now that I'm thinking about it.... I can kinda connect the dots.
Playing Sky with a controller is suprisingly slow
The auto-fly-land system is also very finnicky, so trying to collect light, fly around and burn darkness is a really challenging task using a controller
Maybe it'll come to consoles regardless
Probably not "Consoles", just switch
Plus I’m pretty sure some specific stuff (related to accessories like the table) still requires touch?
Correct me if I’m wrong, though. It’d be very appreciated.
Think you can place a table with a controller still
Originally the big switch from Metal (iOS) to Vulkan was just for Android support. But I can see TGC realising around November "Why stop there?!"
Last time I played with one,
I was unable to, although that’s awhile back. (Although I don’t think much changed with controllers since I last played.)
I played with a PS4 controller, btw.
If the plan is full cross-platform iOS/Android/Switch/possibly PC play, they want to hammer down the server side before they go any further
I can see the Android "delay" as more just checking for compatibility with something.... Frankly I didn't even think would be possible.
If TGC could pull this off, in a game of this magnitude, it'll be a first for sure
I have seen that the servers in beta has been acting better (since the little mess up)
So it looks like they’re doing something?
Also, I’ll test the controller controls again when the winter season comes to Live.
Ah, thought iOS? They got bluetooth controller support?
TGC said from the beginning they are bringing sky to iOS, AppleTV, Android, PC and Mac and consoles with cross play planned, so not really any news there
Yeah, but I mean, I didn't believe them back then 
I can back that up, as I’ve played with a PS4 controller. (Hooked my tablet up to my projector and played it like a console game.
)
I asked in looking for a group but there are 3 people waiting at the 8 player puzzle
We’ve been there a while
We got up to 6 but we’re back down to 3
Send qr :v
I went to join you and was ported to the community area in prairie
Now I am told you're in a space I can't join
I've been busy and haven't been able to play much beta, can someone direct me to the Rhythm spirit in Forest (or even just a hint?)
It’s under the bridge in the last area @hybrid terrace
the calls here are the funniest and best thing to me
i dunno if this is considered beta since i've never seen any videos on it beforehand
i wish they kept new and old calls because despite not having the same feel as eachother they sound so nice! (and funny sometimes but that's why i like the spirit manta call, it sounds silly!)
We still need 3 more people for the 8player puzzle if anyone is in the area
@/Seraph (late reply so I'm not pinging) but yeah I figured as much! I just assumed that they wanted testers to be able to get all of the cosmetics to test them out too, like any design/functionality errors. But I guess for belonging they made an exception since the campfire seemed a bit more complex
@woeful lodge Coming?
We’re all there currently
There are 4 of us now
Someone finally table bugged us through the wall @quaint onyx
So we could get the star
It’s been like an hour trying to get through
Showed up on the tail end 
https://youtu.be/AL-StB8qmII
Talk from Jenova, with Sky mainly at the end
It really is like a digital Disneyland 
Does anyone know what’s going to happen to the people who bought the winter music pack with the piano? I saw that it’s supposedly a completion prize now, so what happens to the people who spent money (like myself) to get it?
you get the AP for free and those items will already be unlocked in the spirits shops.
Oh wow, okay, thank you 
What is the AP?
Adventure Pass.
very true hehe
Is the new season confirmed to be released for live on the 23rd?
Let us pray 
No, the beta is also closed so no link would grant you access
we did an access wipe in august or september and made new links for invites, whatever link you had back then wouldn't work anymore anyway.
we open it up when we need more testers, there isn't a set schedule.
you have the Sky Beta Member role, you'll get pinged in the #beta-announcements channel when invites open up. Aside from downloading Testflight in advance if you haven't already, you're all set for when slots open up.
oh, while you're here Ktjn!
flees
lol
What's up?
The one time we need to be able to krill in regular channels 
a question: what happened to the accounts that weren't logged into again? Some of my older friends are now "blank" Sky kids.
I’ve been questioning myself about the beta link
me and someone else posted photos in #beta-screenshots-videos yesterday
lemme look.
How can you enter (just saying if it’s out)
did those old accounts get wiped or just reset to "no cosmetics"? (my old Macbook account has the default cosmetics, though, but perhaps those accounts are still around but unaccessible?)
Does she have her gmail or google connected to it?
Well then sorry, it seems she can’t get her stuff back
There isn't really a way to reconnect with an old beta account, other than to be able to access again through an invite link. If that's what you're asking? But I was also curious if the actual account data is wiped. Perhaps we'll know more soon.
Your Sky id is visible from within the app, through the settings menu. There is "recovery code".
But are you talking about your Live account now? Then perhaps you should just contact Support instead. 🙂
Problem is the recovery code is difficult to understand
In my phone's settings I can see my Sky user id for both beta and Live. That's what would be your identifier. If you don't have that, I think it's very difficult for them to help.
In any case, for Live accounts this is the wrong channel 😉
@ atipleb: it's likely their cached info with the server got cleared so it just defaults to that blank looking skykid. If they log back into their accounts, their saved data will still be there and will update accordingly.
@ yinzi: we post a link with the announcement and remove it once it's full.
@ astro: all is not entirely lost, we might be able to cross-reference her account with yours and find the old account. I can't promise for sure but it's something that CS can look into.
Well, I don't think a dev being here is neither here nor there in this case. The tech support is the support in the app. @steep helm
i'm off the clock, so i don't have the tools to look at home, but i'll be in the office in the morning.
Ah, thanks Ktjn! Much appreciated for the nerd in me.
Ktjn should go sneep though, and i should get back to work 
@steep helm tell your friend to contact support in game, then they will ask for info they need
You can contact TGC Support via the Support menu in-game. If you’re unable to access your game, you can contact Support by using the link below:
http://bit.ly/skygamecs
Well what were you trying to say Yínzi?
Well like when you get in how do you sign in did they asked your email when go in the beta link??
we'd need her to submit a ticket, mention you and get her ticket number from the CS agent, have you submit a ticket and reference her cs ticket number, we can look up your account and possibly recover hers that way. I can't guarantee it, but it's a possibility. That's why we hammer in to link your account to Game Center or Google so strongly >_>
Gosh darn it my Filipino language again mixed it up with my English
If you’re on iOS, it will be a TestFlight link. You need the TestFlight app that will be linked to your iCloud account
If you’re on android, you need to sign in with your google account to enter the tester program
Mirian is correct.
I think in the past we sent out a news letter and people signed up and we sent individual links out to the email provided, but now do an opt-in link.
It was a long waiting list 
XD
The news letter list is Very Large.
0.0
we'd have a ton of people sign up and then never play, which doesn't really help us beta test, and unfortunately Testflight has a hard cap of how many testers there can be so we had to do an access wipe due to the inactivity.
Ouch... that’s awful :(
It's fairly common with public beta testing.
People would sign up and it would take months for the invite to come and I guess they were uninterested or forgot by then? 
Its a lot more fair now with activity and luck being the factors to get in
Ahh that old newsletter. I got an invite once i did not use 
You had a better invite to another version 
yep
you can sign up for it and set up what platforms you're interested in testing on.
she'll have to ask the rep for the ticket number.
Possibly, I'm not sure what it looks like on the customer facing side.
@steep helm yes, should be a number with # in front of it.
Thanks, Em, I wasn't sure since it all feeds into a system that looks very different on our side.
go sneep, Astro.
what spirit is the capeless cape?
Whalecall has that cape for now. It’s not final tho Spidey
I just spent 30-40 mins trying to get two friends together to finish an 8 person group before we all gave up. Not news I think, but it is super confusing and slow. Friends can't join you in the elevator area, but i walk out the door & they still can't seem to join. And if you go home i think you have trouble getting back to the same elevator group? Is there a reliable way? 
Whale call in forest constellation
so regular spirit
thanks Em n good morning luv! gotta run...
cab will be here at 6 am
Morning Spidey! 
Re: Lost accounts. A friend of mine got a new phone and didn’t use iCloud on his old one. They were able to get his account back by asking him some questions and I think getting some extra info from friends maybe (like screenshots of his character).
henlo. when's the season starting again? 23rd right?
we don't know, wait for announcement
Lol
tysm
thats not final
Bonnie Tyler enters the stage

Is there any indication of beta making it to Apple TV yet? I know the focus is still on trying to get Android done, but really, Apple TV should be like a week, maybe 2 weeks of work if you accept that chat would be disabled without a phone. Last time I tried the controller, it worked pretty darn well. Building for tvOS is just another build setting. I've got 4 apps of my own on tvOS, so I know it's not that much work to take a fully functional app from iOS to tvOS. This was supposed to be the first home for Sky right from the start.
yey i got fox mask today
Android is the focus for now, and they´ve made no indication when other platforms will follow. Only that it will
i saw tara's vid
her recent vid
There wasn’t as far as I know
it is reused, from this video https://youtu.be/f1gZxj5VNGU
its re-uploaded so who missed out can know the spirits locations
@night harbor ^
@final lance sprry for the ping!! But where is the fox mask spirit located if you don’t mind me asking?
In home space, near the closets @harsh moon. Keep in mind it’s only in beta, and not live.
Ahh, I meant where to find the spirit so I could get the fox mask xD
sorry for not clarifying
In isle. It's in the sand dunes
Ahhh tysm!!
Ahh I misunderstood then 
But yeah, isle 
when is the next beta update...?
Hey guys! Maybe I missed it or didn’t see it, but no one knows yet what time the new season will begin?
Ok, thx ^^
👆🏼
Same Ghost CHAN
23rd is a tentative date from beta patch notes that has not been confirmed by TGC
But I don’t mind waiting a little since I’m still short on candles
That wasn’t a set date
does anyone know if I'd get the deer mask if I buy everything from the traveling spirits?
because it was the final reward right
we don’t know yet
Me too. I want the jellyfish umbrella
Not all cosmetics will be available, so I don't think so
😩

for now we can only speculate (and/or hope)
I think it will just be the gratitude spirits :(
Does purchasing the wings buffs from the travelling spirits actually give you a wing buff?
it does in beta
nothing in beta is final, so we’ll wait and see if it works that way in live
Alright, thanks
@polar monolith the deer mask is supposed to get put into the in game store. They’re gonna remove the winter season pack and put in a Gratitude season pack.
At least that’s what they said in the release notes.
So far there has been no indication or mechanism introduced that will give a way to access ultimate rewards after completing traveling spirits. IMO it’s unlikely.
patch notes say:
Added Gratitude Mask Pack to the Store
so the deer mask may or may not be included, we don’t know yet
Fair point. The winter pack included a hair style and the ultimate reward from winter so I assumed that the gratitude ultimate reward mask would be included, but you’re totally correct to point out that we don’t really have that information.
Winter didn’t have an ultimate reward when it first ran, the piano is still just one of the items you can get
I think respect had it first time around?
Wait was there an update just now?
No
So what’s this about a gratitude pack?
That was in the patch notes during the big update
Oh. So it’s added but not visible yet?
Yeah we probably won’t see it until it hits live
I see
I selfishly hope it’s not the deer mask bc then everyone will be wearing it 😬
I don’t think so
Not many people will spend that much money for a cosmetic, the same reason that you don’t really see that many founders capes
Why would people buy a pack tho if the spirits are visiting again?
I guess it would have to be the deer mask
I rarely even see people with the winter piano that werent limited live players
Otherwise no one will buy it
I don't think it's likely that an ultimate reward will end up as a purchasable pack.
Not all items will be coming with the traveling spirits too
why is/why do you think that?
Ktjn confirmed it, it's pinned in this channel
Doesn’t that just mean ultimate items probably won’t?
I think the first two spirits came back with everything
I think the ultimate items likely won’t be with a traveling spirit, but we don’t know about the other items yet
Haven’t seen enough spirits
Are extra seasonal candles free in beta too or just the pass?
just the pass
Anything that costs real money in live version is free in beta
But there are no candle packs
Cause that would just break the testing
#beta-screenshots-videos whats the first option thingy then?
that’s a gift adventure pass, an adventure pass you can give to another player
additional giftable pass
im worried there will never be another beta wave
beta's not going anywhere
@lusty light I have 3 live friends who bought the piano pack.
But I get that that’s not common.
As people drop out they will open up more slots
The last wave was pretty recent
The last one before that was months before they opened this last one
So just hang in there.
I waited from August until just last month.
we did a small iOS invite wave right before the Christmas break. we open it when we need it.
oh,, :(
but im not on ios
that's why i can't play because it's not yet open for android
For Android, we did several waves of invites over the month of November, currently our Android testing needs are being met, which is why we haven't opened it up since then. Furthermore, since Sky went into Limited Live status, we are getting test data from those users as well.
Unfortunately the demand to be a beta tester will always be astronomically higher than our needs as a developer to open up slots.
Beta isn't meant to be a substitute for the Live game, nor is it a free pass for early access to unreleased content. Beta is a test environment for us to identify and fix issues that did not occur during internal testing.
Ktjn where’s the update 😭😭
I'm not sure what you mean, nerfgh.
Me neither. U.u
”Beta isn't meant to be a substitute for the Live game, nor is it a free pass for early access to unreleased content. Beta is a test environment for us to identify and fix issues that did not occur during internal testing. “
That’s definitely a misconception that I’ve seen in other Beta programs as well, not just this one.
Participating in a beta means 2 really important things:
- you’re signing up to work and provide feedback.
- the devs/writers/etc. may disagree with you and you’ll see a live release that you don’t like.
Which is why i am not committed to beta as much as I am to live because I know there's a chance i might lose everything or that i'll just never complete everything in it and i'm okay with that because i'm there to help test things





@vapid briar i just want to play the game ◔⋏◔
Yep. Seeing features before they hit the live game can really put you on the spot like that. And you have to deal with the consequences that follows. Beta is, and should always be looked on as beta. And so while you may disagree with a lot of changes carried out you essentially agreed to that when you signed-up and decided to be a tester 
exactly!
So on a different topic, traveling spirits give wing buffs in beta, and I expect that to go to Live. My question is speculative: will they just cap it at 10 wedges? Once you’ve got 10 stop saying how many til the next?
Or will they continue a counter?
If they run through all of the seasons, that’s 24 spirits that we already know about, putting the max at 140 just with the seasonal spirits we already know (including Rhythm/Winter).
If they don’t cap it, what do you think #11 will look like?
That is an interesting statement. I see no reason to cap it though
Other than no-one having a clue how we’ll fit an 11th wedge onto the cape 
I understand @autumn saffron and we want to bring Sky to as many folks who want to play, but developing a game to be compatible with various platforms takes time.

there there

thank u
The wing buff system is built to continue to scale over 120 so as the game expands and we add new Winged Light, the functionality is already there. 120 isn't a hard cap, it's just the next threshold.
I see, i’m very curious how the stars will be fit to accommodate the potential 11th onwards wedge. That is, if it will still display those at all
Thanks for the confirmation @vapid briar !
Em, how do you think it should/would look?
it's kind of like before you get Birth Buffs, the "cap" is 7.
Stars 6-9 mean on outline around stars appear. Maybe we get another one around that for the 11th

I think @rustic imp s idea of double outlines makes the most sense
It’ll eventually blend into each other
I might. Give me a sec
the display of stars on the cape is a different system, we'll likely have to build it to reflect 11 stars eventually, but we'll cross that bridge when we get there. >_>
Hehe aww man
@vapid briar I half expected you to drop another spoiler and tell us it was already built
I wonder how many stars we'll need for 11 wedges though
games are comprised of things called Systems that work in tandem to make the game A Thing. Think of it like your nervous system and your circulatory system working together to keep you alive.
TBH I’m surprised you confirmed that 10 isn’t intended as a cap
Posted the screenshot over in #beta-screenshots-videos 
I mean, in terms of how the game functions right now 9 IS the cap.
True. It’ll be the cap until wandering spirits come. If they will carry a buff in live
30 wedges here i come
And saying that 10 is systemically possible isn't a spoiler, it's just how code works.
Well it’s the most you can obtain but for the sake of conversation I would argue (semantically) that that’s different from a cap. It’s just that there aren’t more available. A cap, IMO, would be more like it doesn’t matter whether you have 120 winged lights or 500, you can still only have 10 wedges.
I'm gonna get 10 wedges and then immediately lose it in under 24 hrs
🤣
Happy Krilling
I mean most of us are going to have to if we want 99 prestige candles. Know what I mean?
I mean, i’m already making plans for when i grab those potential new buffs. Going to go explore Eden and its nooks and crannies with friends 
|| I’ll finally be able to consistently do all 63 statues in 1 run. I’ve only done it once or twice. ||
It's not uncommon for systems to be built beyond their intended scope. I don't have the time to get into the semantics/pedantics of it, but i'll leave this: if we had built it only to accommodate the wing buffs from the base game, it would have been next to impossible for us to add the winged light that we did for the Season of Belonging. That is why the system is built from the beginning to be capable of handling more than what is currently possible within the game's current constraints.
Thank you for your ongoing input and involvement @vapid briar!!!
Thank you, Ktjn, for taking the time to explain!
Have a nice day if you don’t have time to pop in again later 
Regardless of whether someone gets to actually participate in the beta environment, it’s really cool that TGC allows a wide open beta forum where anyone can participate and discuss and that TGC employees are a part of that discussion!
I’ve never participated in a beta where the general community has access like this. It definitely changes the landscape.
Can anyone tell me how much the mask for the isle spirit costs? Not the wandering spirit, but the one for the season
12 i think
Which emote is that one?
Courtesy
It was 12 candles. The nodes leading up to it was 8 and 10 candles respectively
I’m still not sure curtsy is the right name for that emote? But not sure what else to call it
It’s more like “I present to you....”
I will keep calling it Courtesy at least. Been doing so since winter season came 
If anyone have any good suggestions that might fit more i would gladly listen though. 
I always thought of the isle one as the “after you” emote
Yeah that’s what it looks like, too.
Like formal invitation to come with
A curtsy is a bend at the knees
The Sky Wiki calls it Curtsy, so that doesn’t help any
Courtesy is another spelling for Curtsy
We all have different names
No courtesy as in being courteous to someone
We can all agree that it is an emote 
Courtesy according to Wikipedia is British English for curtsy
English is confusing 
Yep
American English has a different meaning I guess
but yea
I agree Sera, even more so when it’s not even your first language 
im going to use it on moths in wasteland
Since it’s a season of performance....
I think of it as “presenting...”
But that doesn’t work as a name
Like, “presenting, the juggling bird troupe”
Lol anyone else desperate for the ice rink in live? https://www.reddit.com/r/SkyGame/comments/erzkr7/me_impatiently_waiting_for_the_censored_to_come/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
my soul is going to leave its body once the update drops
But you need it so you can play
Yeah that’s why I call it welcome
It does kinda give of the presenting vibe. I’m actually curious as to how we landed on courtesy in the first place 
You’re welcoming others to the performance
I called it Curtsy bc others called it that and I didn’t have a better idea
We can call it Crusty
Lol
Bc I keep nearly typing that
I think it’s also more like the male version of a curtsy, which is a bow. But we already have a bow
So confusing
Asking a friend who’s good with this stuff
Let’s see what the community comes up with when it hits live 
Or, actually.
Ktjn, If you see this, do you have any clue what the courtesy emote is originally called? Or is it courtesy between you guys as well? 
on the wiki it says it as curtsy
on both the old and new wiki pages about the season
What about.... Voila?
I remember it being called welcome from the Mac version of the game
Oh?
Remember that short time where it would go your [filename] is now level x!
That’s where I learned the names of most of the emotes
The wiki is put together by fans tho
So it’s not necessarily an official name
Just one people agreed on I guess
Ohhhh do you have the names for all of this season’s emotes from back then?
Yeah but the other emotes are called as you’d guess
I remember this vividly bc I remember upgrading
and it was an obvious file name bc it’d say your nothanks emote is now level 2!
But now it just says expression :/
I wonder if I put Welcome in my guide and on my videos, if it’ll catch on 😬
I made up my own names for a lot of other emotes.
That happened in beta for lightseekers too, with head pat “hair_tousle”
It’s always fun to know what they’re internally called 👀
Yeah! It is 
A lot of my names are different.
Proud Stance, Relaxed Stance, Polite Stance
Oh the stances before gratitude I know the names of
Hands on hip is “hero”, polite is “solemn”, wide stance is.... wide.....
I think the gratitude one is just called sassy
Yeah, it is quite sassy as well 
I heard people refer to the lightseekers stance as lazycool
But idk if that’s right
And I refer to the belonging stance as the thinker stance
i keep forgetting lightseeker had a stance
It strikes me as a relaxing stance
i always use that one
Lazy cool is what I call it if that contributes anything 
i noticed when you get up it goes back to sassy stance for a slight second
I noticed that too
I was gonna report it but I forgot lol
I noticed that stances are in like a “class”
So some stances share the same get up animation
Yeah. It saves resources reusing some parts of other stances / animations. Imagine designing completely new animations for everything. That takes a lot of extra work 
sassy stance free 1 second trial
those suggestions about each stance having unique walk cycle animations, scary
lazycool is what they called it on stream
👁👄👁

Lazycool it is then 
yup
i think what happened was animator scott asked, what would “lazycool” look like?
and thus. lightseekers lazycool

Yet another official name....
So that means the only one without a name is belonging
Thinker/pondering is a no brainer tho
i remember someone saying a name for it in the concept art stream

i dont remember what it was but i call it the thinker
Didn’t they say the wise stance?
late to the party, but it's "Welcome"
based
Might be late Ktjn, but you’re always welcome 
yay I remembered right
Thanks Ktjn! You’re a lifesaver
I still never named the Gratitude emotes bc....they’re hard to name
Mhm! Time to nyoom of to the wiki and correct the rhythm page i guess 
Just scrolled up. Does this mean I have to start calling it Hero Stance? I got quite fond of Proud Stance.
gratitude emotes: salute 2, that one emote everyone spams, yoga, challenge accepted
Lol Yay is what everyone spams I think.
ye
Lol Yoga. I guess that works
I'll always think of hands-on-hips as the dad stance because the spirit quest ends up with kid up on his shoulders
Aww that’s true!
One is Karate?
y'all just want me to look up what's in the game files, huh? 
if youve got the time
Yes 
ktjn, I should introduce you to my friend, Pandora. She has some advice for you.
I'll give you just the one: Hero Stance
Is the new dance Break Dance?
Aww I really do have to stop calling it Proud Stance, huh? I guess Hero Stance sounds cool too
Actually, considering we will soon have two dance emotes. They must have distinctive names? 
Yeah that’s why I’m trying to think of one
Slow Dance doesn’t work for Belonging bc of the updated version
ritual dance
suppose so
Yay I was right about hero stance too 
Sonic, yay!
Now I want all the official names
They don’t really have to make longer capes ,for the 11th and 12th they could make the stars glow or be like the Star of David
50th wedge cape got us wearing the grocery store list
CVS receipt
Why is the fox spirit back👀
The moment is just getting closer and closer.
https://i.redd.it/nv8eo2rvfzo31.jpg
AAA??
triple A what?
its his fanart
AAA like AAAAAHHHHH
Oh, okay. I meant we need longer capes to accomodate extra wedges.
OHhhh right DFJKFj
btw that's still one of my favourites that you've done i love everything about it fjdf
some arent
It´s totally invented, it was supposed to be some Elysium fields of some sort to rest, play minigames and do shopping.
It´s one of my favourite as well, bc it´s totally ridiculous.
you're in beta chat majority already knows whats going on
this is the spoiler channel my man
Well, it´s the place to discuss it lol
speak your mind
Hahahha
There is a magnet in the channel somewhere, now you´re trapped.
Congrats tgc 😊
That
go sneep from Ktjn is really beginning to stare at me 
go sneep em
Go sleep. Ktjn style 
There’s 2 ultimate reward now?
I see, thanks
Yeah, @steep helm Green Hill Zone in Prairie.
Butterfly Hill Zone
Ok, Green Hill Home then. I want my loops.
We need more stuff added at Home, for sure
i lowkey want a ball we can kick around but i feel like some one might just kick it into the stratosphere and the wind barrier claims it, then we can only stare at it as it floats just past the barrier
I would definitely get squashed by said ball
thONK
I just made myself really sad by realizing the black mask could have been like a crow or raven and it’s not

True but i kinda like the mask rn but it would be cooler if it was bird like
Since some of the spirits wear the black mask, I think it's nice that we're able to obtain it.
Though it definitely doesn't give off the same pzazz as some of the other cosmetics
Just that it’s the season of bird masks. Would have been cool if the ultimate gift was a really unique one, like Gratitude’s deer.
A black bird with gold accents would be sooo nice
Penguin mask 
We still need an Oreo mask
yes
Very true
What if we could spawn oreo whenevr we wanted anywhere
all the seasonal spirits are just dogs
Does anyone have a video of the upgraded welcome emote(the isle one that is you wave a hand behind you) they can post and ping me thanks daesparks!
@vivid seal about your feedback, the rhythm symbol is a part of the cape and not a pendant. That’s why when you wear the pendant it looks offset
🥺
@rustic imp Your video lol. You’re like a hockey puck.
Only players that experienced the old emote menu will remember how bad it was compared to having it on the side 
I would be so confused by the old menu
If only we could have favorite emotes
The emotes growing larger and smaller really throws me off
It looks cool. But it would take me more energy looking for the emote I want
Also remember that a lot of old beta things were removed, changed or evolved into the features we have now after testing and for good reason. It’s easy to get carried away with only the pretty screenshots of something you didn’t experience
old home area (&aviary), isle of dawn, wasteland (shores of manna) and prarie looked really nice back then even if it was confusing and made my phone explode
Don’t mention that cursed wasteland name ever again

bahaha! i was suprised it had that name
Our areas now also look really nice, we’re just used to it
Old screenshots might look amazing and better because they’re long gone
yeahh D:
i'd like to have a time machine for that haha
just to run through it once or twice
I also have personal favorites that got removed, old isle and vault were my favorites and I will be sad every day thinking about them
But I also trust TGC and the decisions they made and like the areas we have now
isle looks so much less.. bland D:
ofc i always blow my mind flying above isle now but
there's more depth
It was truly an evolution and testing, nothing was really discarded
I just think they will remake a lot of stuff again one day :”0
yes yes! hehe
Sometimes you even see hints of older areas that make a comeback. The new forest cave reminds me a lot of part of old transition between isle and prairie for example
Tbh, there could be better tutorial.. teaching player how to follow /tag on .. is useful..
We don’t know which features were removed for good or might be in store for later ^^
And it’s always nice looking back at stuff
Wonder why that got scratched
some things being brought back in the newer fashion would probably blow my mind haha
@vivid seal yours is visible because you have a smaller size ,that’s why I started as “being tall”
after a while of candle running even the biggest areas it can seem so small
i mean except wasteland
But keep in mind they probably had good reasons for that and the game is really so much better now, and it wouldn’t be this good without all the changes and vision TGC has
And that’s not the pendant :”0 if what you meant is that the sign appears in both capes is because both capes have that mark on them @vivid seal xD
yeah! like they removed the beautiful checkered capes due to overheating issues and i'm alright with that
also i adore the old calls
it's harder to find videos on all of those
Okay except the calls. I’d take all the old calls back in a heartbeat 
:”0
No, not the wahs 
How do you do it.. play on after they remove things that were dear to you?
I guess.. because they added exiting new things..?
Yeah! Basically
I can’t imagine what it must have been like to lose aviary
I mean we have to always keep in mind things will change in beta, so it’s not that hard with that mindset
Some changes that are personal favorite were harder to lose than others
But in the end you just submit your feedback about it and move on
And there’s always new things getting added and perfected that make up for it
i would like generally a bigger home space and it doesn't really necessarily mean bringing back aviary as a whole but at least more to explore than this little teeny weenie place
I agree 
The portals in the aviary were good because the transition trigger was past the gate
oohh
So I hope they bring that back in the future
i saw concept art for aviary? and you could see all the different "worlds" around the place far down and it was really cool
Also they look far more impressive
Aviary was pretty but the levels were lacking compared to now
Most of the levels were just 1-2 areas
I want aviary back but I don’t want the removal of the areas we have now
They could keep areas and make an aviary-like home? .. like something big with separate portals
The aviary was cool but you know what is cooler? Citadel, flying race, prairie cave and nest areas that were added right after 
I saw a video and it seemed like there was more stuff to do in aviary than the home we have now
So not really losing much in comparison huh
Don’t forget the shipwreck
Oh yeah and the whole vault revamp
There wasn’t anything to do in aviary
What was vault like?
Like there was more room but there wasn’t more content
I never saw a vid of it
Vault was like the first 2 levels and the 3rd level was a mix of level 3 and 4 now
And the post-cutscene area
i'll send concepts of aviary and some sky bunnies in the screenshot chat
I think that sounds right ,the vault is huge and there’s not that much to investigate or see there
Floor -wise
I do love the new area
The flying in vault was awful but the level was very beautiful. It had a different concept than now, it was more calm and romantic even
Vault now is equally great, just different and a lot more glorious
That sounds nice
Constant closed mode
Lol
But make it floaty
That sounds terrible 😂
Forest was like that too
Forest wasn’t floaty tho
Oh my plus the rain
So glad they decided to just let us fly in this flying game 
Lol
I remember being so confused
I thought I was dumb
Because I couldn’t flick in forest
I thought I just didn’t know how to fly
Lol
Now what sometimes kinda confuses me is why the butterflies always stop me from landing ... when I’m trying to land intentionally
Heh at least now we have butterflies all over the place. Before was either a friend or enjoy walking
XD
But pls make it so butterfly don’t always kidnap us tgc 
And now we have campfire
butterflies: this is a flying game. you're not allowed
campfire made my oob dreams come true
It really is
me: beeps a few times out of excitement
butterflies: “have fun being snatched haha loser”*
Back in my day we would plop 3 message candles down to charge 
And some people didn’t remove them after -.- lots of clutter
Lmao
wait so
you had like message candles dark souls style?
i think that concept is really cool haha
They could put messages anywhere
If I get stuck anywhere, I just light up. So nice.
I’ll never forget that one GW meditation quest where I was terrified and my message was literally just “,”
Yeah you could place max 3 candles anywhere on one area except home
It was.. something
ohhh
Maybe if they make a requirement for it
Chairs are stupid campfire is what it should have been
Yeb
Obtain 60-100 hearts on a candle and u can place candles anywhere
So they know u do put real messages
i think the idea is pretty cool if you can only see friend candles
Yeah I feel bad for anyone starting now who can only ever have the table
I don’t want free message candles back ever
great if you don't have discord and such but for clutter? i dunno
They were everywhere
mmmm yea no 
From far away temples looked like they had bird poop on the ceilings because there were so many
That’s why i said “a requirement for it” so the game knows ur not gonna use them recklessly
okayy maybe not 
Imagine walking and there’s just,,,, a PATH of candles. Blobs of them.
candle runway
And imagine
broadway
They were everywhere
Friends got priority but some random ones would always show so it was fun
Oh god
And there were only like 7k players in beta
My favorite one was leaving and finding message candles oob
Imagine how many there’d be with over a million players
pfpfppf
Why don’t friends get priority now? 😭😭
Man that. I would die
You felt like a real mvp being the first one to put a message candle somewhere
bahaha
I still have a message candle in game
They made them invisible but they didn’t get removed
I can only see my own candles
Yeah softlaunch players have them like a little secret thing 
Awww
i think it's a good idea for one candle per pre-selected game area during entering a world like eden and there'll be like a candle holder spot like when a candle goes out
That’s a little sweet reminder then I’d guess
Aww
See those candles were the nice ones to find
Dozens of uh, messages that would be censored today all over the place not so much
If they ever comeback in hope there’s an option to not see them. The clutter was ugly 
i do kinda miss the flying boats D:
it would be nice to see them idly flying around in the homespace occasionally
imagine seeing a big pirate ship take off bahaha
It would be nice if it were a special item.. like..
Place a single message candle somewhere in any of the worlds.
It could even cost a candle
One message per player still makes it millions of candles 
I wanna ride the new creature introduced this season
you couldn't see stranger's messages
It was an interesting feature but I think the fixed message spots are much better
me too!!
They would be perfect if friends were properly prioritized
maybe it could be like a very not-noticeable thing
I kinda dislike the fixed ones.. I feel like.. the freedom to place one anywhere.. is so nice..
(I only got to do it with bug candles)
like i think how in dark souls you could pay no mind to the messages
The candles could be hidden
Like automagically like the UI
Also only friends can see them if under 3 likes..
And if it’s possible, maybe only friends and friends of friends when under 10 likes?
Does anyone know if the fuzzy cape is available in the upcoming season?
the old valley race looked normal until i saw all the different obstacles that made it a bit more interesting at the end >;0
The purple cape with a fuzzy white lining is available this upcoming season.
Oh ._. No I meant the one that’s entirely fluffy all over. Oh well
the white one from then?
Oh! I thought that would’ve been a winter cape, my mistake
no biggie! it does look like bird wings and the theme is birds haha
but there are gratitude spirits visiting
Where is the meditation spot for today?
Forest (o derp this answer really doesn’t help)
Well
The sunny area behind a constellation gate
Oh thank you
@uneven anvil if live will be just like the beta, gratitude spirits will visit
I estimate you’ll need to save up about 80-100 candles in the next few weeks (to be on the safe side) to be able to get that white fluffy cape.
Yeah at least 80-100 for each spirit u want items from
I’m still scared fluffy coat is gonna be more
Than the orange one
If you farm the whole game you can get about 110 per week or so
Would be such a nice surprise to wake up tomorrow and find out the season has been extended in beta and I can get the fancy cape
Yeah
Dae, I think not
Hahahah
But YES, App, I hope that happens



