#beta-discussion
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yeahhh the winter piano the hot topic for us
Especially for those who's looking forward to get the piano or already own one
is piano the same as regular piano or something?
just the notes been higher in terms of pitch ( not musically knowledgable so I don't know the exact term for the higher notes )
when was the complaints exactly? i recall them being way before seeing how it actually worked
when i saw the redesign i also though it was going to stay the same when pulling it out
octaves?
The octave is higher yes
ahh so its octave, yeah yeah the winter piano is in octave, something like that


I personally like to carry around the small piano
And then all of a sudden
WHAM!
BIG PIANO APPEAR

FLEX ON THE SMALL ONES
i did too
but the change the change so there's nothing we could do about it sadly
Throws pianos everywhere
not gonna jump the gun and wait...and just watch... from afar 
Some observation about #beta-feedback for people participating there:
- If your post is about "agree/disagree with so-and-so," consider either having that conversation here, or giving your unique personal experience of the topic rather than naming others and framing it like a debate. Feedback is valuable, but debate makes it harder to read the messages and find their real value.
- If you find yourself writing about what "lots of people" are saying or thinking or feeling, or how "lots of people" play or might play given some set of assumptions, reconsider. Feedback will be easier to parse and clearer if it's worded as your personal experience; how the changes have affected your play.
- As always, kindly remember that feedback about how much you love something is always a welcome thing for our dear friends, the devs to read.

I was laughing at that one picture
How that players perfectly timed it in that one Iceberg
the sassy stance spirit has replaced the prairie emote one since last update , yes ? so no knowledge on any potential updates for the latters pricings yet ?
from 50 to 40 candles I think for the Sassy Spirit's mask
And from 25-12 candles for the hair
ah alright thank you ! i know the sassy stance had the mask and hat lowered to 40 / 12 from 50 / 25 but not sure about the prairie emote
Baby
i hav a lil spreadsheet keeping track of the prices to prepare so i wanted to know. guess ill have ta wait !
hmm guess we have to find out when the Prairie one comes next
@balmy rock #beta-feedback is generally for people who have experience in the beta to share their feedback, not a place to speculate or dump hostility. Please consider removing your message, or editing the wording with this thought in mind: The people who make this game actually respect and care about the players and are trying to solve difficult problems with some of their changes. When we don't understand their rationale it doesn't mean they are being malicious.
@balmy rock the whale spirit is a placeholder btw. It won’t cost an extra 999 to get forest hair 
also I’m curious, let’s say someone outside of beta doesn’t like something or has an opinion on something they see; are they not allowed to mention feedback? Since stuff rarely changes once it gets to live

Yeah...like I get the fuss over it and the price tag of it, which it's good that everyone has feedback on it, but it escalated a little further than need be
feedback: not a fan of this new feature you recently added, ive got a couple of suggestions, etc
not feedback: my life has never known peace since the new feature, i woke up the next morning and snakes began physically manifesting in my house
lmaoo
Can I add in please don’t submit feedback unless you are a beta tester, hearing the new features from others is not the same as actually testing it, and writing feedback on things you don’t know about isn’t helping
like hearing from a friend about a cake who doesn’t like it and thinking it’s bad despite never eating said cake
Granny it’s just the concept of the cake I don’t like :/ taste doesn’t matter
i did comment on how i like the new redesigns despite not being a beta tester, oops, good to know though
My main gripe with it, is that I think it just goes against the philosophy that the game’s trying to push. I fear that it’ll possibly cause people to think of hearts as currency to grind for, rather than a gift.

i think genial discussion and sharing opinions on beta stuff is fine, as long as you dont give official feedback in #beta-feedback without actually having beta and therefore not having experienced it firsthand yourself
I don’t think I’ve even left feed back on the cape because I don’t see myself ever testing it in beta
plus 999 to remove something seems nuts
Of course it’s ok to disagree with the price @sage mulch I also don’t agree with it, it’s really just how people have been wording their disagreement
laughs in i'll never try it bc i love capes too much
yaa. constructive feedback is the best feedback
Ikr, flying around with no cape is funny but outside of hair, cape is the most important thing in a look imo
Same!
I'd be like "oh this is worth a grind"
Plus capes seem pretty integral to a skykid's design anyhow
I’d feel undressed lol
how absurd would would it be to have like 8 sky kids flying around with no cape
i like when my hair clips through the cape because its weirdly cute
same
you look babyy
Like removing the cape should just be free after doing eden once
also i like having ghe diamonds to see how much im losing
In order of most to least important thing in a look I think it’s hair > cape > mask > pants
Yeah. I fear that I may have been a bit harsh with some criticism in the past. (Trying to avoid doing that in the future.) I just don’t want this cosmetic to create an even larger angry mob, when it comes to live.
Pant lovers are offended everywhere
Yo corgi
Rather than that, what if it was a matter of unlocking all the Elders' cosmetics?
i like the idea of just straight up removing your cape, like it's off but you can't fly. But also have the invisible cape? idk
i can see that happening
why does it appear in the sky store that I can buy dollar passes and packages? but without covering anything?
I view it as just undressing lol
what if ghere was a transparent cape
!betacost
Everything in beta is free, so nothing in the in-game store costs actual money.
Make it a ghost manta cape, that'd be fun ngl
Because it's translucent and aesthetically pleasing and is sort of invisible? lol
become one w the matas
My favorite cape in game rn is the belonging white cape, and it goes perfectly with the winter pants
So I’m excited for that
im quite excited for Thursday
yes that’s a pretty cape
I hope it comes early...
i love thet one
Belonging white cape is so good with the winter clothing yes, agreed
my fav is the white gratitude fluffy cape and the light blue from winter
Same, Seraph! Although it seems that TGC’s in a bit of a pickle when it comes to the ultimate reward.
The old capes were expensive performance wise so they got removed
But I still miss the diamonds
honestly it should unlock like a galaxy manta spirit
I wish we could have kept the diamonds but removed the patterns still
With rewards
and base it on how friendly you’ve been
How many moths you’ve helped
hearts are hard to get too since moths like me were getting light w no idea how to give light
that’s the essence of the game
I wonder if the friendliness ranking will ever see the light of day
i hope so
me too
I’d love to see some version of it come to Live. I like the concept of it.
I also have no idea if my bar is filled or not
is that the badge thing you mean?
Mm, the game isn't as clear on what to do and I had to learn mostly from unlocking chat with more seasoned players
the uh roles thing
Ye
I can say that after finishing the constellations, the rate I’ve gotten hearts has slowed down significantly
ohh
So the invisible cape worries me
my bar is full and hasn’t changed in weeks?
Oh yeah, that system has been beta exclusive forever
the badge was redesigned recently so I hope so
I wonder if it’ll have any purpose outside being friendly
No one knows exactly how the ranking works, but people have been speculating it goes up by helping new players by opening doors and such
I kinda forgot about the ranking
I still wonder what they plan for it
like, what if there really was exclusive cosmetics for said ranking?
ohhh, so its just a thing that happens and appears whenever?
does it say your a shepherd when it’s full or?
Yeah
lol guess I haven’t done anything in a while then
ohhh ive nrver seen it
Before you could see the shepherd badge over any shepherd player
And the newbie badge over every newbie player
But I think it was adjusted so only newbies can see shepherds and vise versa
oh ok
I haven’t seen any newbies in a while in beta so
Maybe that’s why it hasn’t gone up 
Tfw beta is closed
It told me I was a shepherd when the feature came out
So I really have no clue how it works
A few days ago it went down a little bit but now I’m back to shepherd
Oh it goes down hmm
I haven't seen mine move in a loong time
Hmm seems like a feature to encourage people to be active / help more than they might already
Ya I thought my bar was full since it’s doesn’t move but it hasn’t gone up sooo
how do you see the bar?
as a newbie in beta i never saw anyone so i never saw any sheperds
oh!!!
thank you corgi <3333
Yeah mine does go down if I don’t play with people for a while. Comes back up within a short time of actually holding hands with and interacting with people.
This feature and candle hoarding for travellers won’t work together haha
it’d be nice to have a general channel where we can just give appreciation for things about sky. #beta-feedback doesn’t seem like the right place, since it’s for specific feedback on things currently being tested...
You can still give appreciations in the feedback channels. TGC staff read it, so it will still reach them!
@balmy rock the current position of the capeless cape is a placeholder
It won’t be in the forest constellation in live

does anyone know if the tutorial ui not appearing is a bug in isle? everythings working as usual except for the part where you'd honk to get off the ledge with the first winged light you see/the part where you honk to get launched towards the temple
i'm not sure whether or not to submit a bug report
I'll test it out soon, but I think it hasn't been doing it for me either
ohh
@orchid nexus Sorry for all that - I’d seen other non-beta members in there once or twice, so I was under the impression it was ok. I’ve deleted the message. Also sorry for the way I worded it, I’ll be more constructive next time.
I saw someone on FB say that they now did get wing buffs from the travelling spirit, all of 118! Can anyone else confirm?
look into #beta-screenshots-videos , someone just posted a pic of 118 wings total 
Oh, lol! It’s the same person.
while i don't have all the buffs i definitely got 3 extra stars!
Interesting!
but also yes, traveling spirits give wing buffs, for now
But won’t that give some players an “unfair” advantage? Hm...something to ponder.
hmm
but the travelling spirits would be accessible to everyone so eventually everyone would hit that 10th wedge right?
do we get a wing buff from the travelling spirits? I thought it was confirmed that they didn't give wing buffs but then how is there someone with 118?
It seems to have been introduced with the latest patch.
Yeah we get wing buffs from them now!
20 wedges here i come!
ohhhhhhoooohhhhooho i see
brb buying wing buff
Lol
If i bought a season pass the cosmetics on the side are given if i get the one next to it on the straight line or do i just get everything on the side once i buy the pass?
whenever i walk into the picture, the crowd laughs
You have to work your way up the line
You need to unlock each step.
Oh ok i think thats better gotta grinddd
its a 10 week season, better take it easy
can i ask here lmaooo
What? :”0
ah i accidentally posted a spoiler in the general chat
Oof
of course
The capeless cape?
No
ah
It won’t be there on live
read the pins
ohhhhh
That’s a placeholder
i was going to ask how are we going to get the elder spirit then lmaooo
it wouldnt make sense either way
It won’t be there on live ,Lightseekers season had the umbrella on the fish call also
And they moved it
its a good testing spot
lol
Who doesn’t like fish 🤷🏼♂️
nobody
Hahahah
are they going to open more slots for the beta?
ya
when they need more testers, that is
@balmy rock there isn't a hard-and-fast rule that "you may not speak in beta-feedback if you're not in beta." The potential problem is that non-beta players hear complaints from beta players that may be partially or even fully fueled by speculation, and then amplify those complaints without the experience to offer a complete evaluation of their own. I'm sure the vast majority of beta players haven't experienced the invisible cape yet, so most people's experience will be approximately equal, which is why I can't say that your opinion doesn't carry equal weight. But I'm almost entirely certain that any high-priced item like that would not block progression on regular constellations.
Yeah, Ktjn said that the whale call spirit is only a temporary place for it, and it will be moved at a later date. (Before it’s released out to Live)
(read yo pins)
what's a pins
whats reading


Eh, the invisible cape is not the solution to the finite use of hearts, if anything it just makes the heart currency even more divisive because only a select few popular people (and by that, I mean people with thousands of friends and followers) will ever even make any significant progress toward the invisible cape, and once that's achieved, they have nowhere to spend hearts again
Is there any difference between the first two levels of the winter dance emote and the last two? As I see it, they’re exactly the same
There needs to be a smaller recurring use
or we just play normally, slowly accumulate more hearts than we need, and without grinding specifically with the intention of getting invisicape, eventually get there in like a year.
@sudden leaf levels 3 and 4 pull up an instrument ui and lets you choose from 15 dance poses
Aah, alrighty. Thanks!
I just don’t think it’s a healthy thing for the game to encourage. You can say you’re not meant to grind daily to get that 999 hearts, but you know that’s what people will do. I don’t even want to go capeless but a tiny voice in my head is telling me not to be too generous with hearts now bc I may need them again for either that or something I want more that may come along and be super expensive.
Like figaro, I find grinding to be a burden and I’m so thrilled to be almost done
I was looking forward to just giving hearts to friends and telling them all not to worry about sending back
yeah!
But something costing 999 hearts... that changes the whole dynamic
I just think it was a heavy handed solution to a problem that could have been solved better, by making a recurring, smaller, non cosmetic thing. So that it is less about collecting and maybe more about being able to endlessly play with spells once you have extra hearts
and i'm over here celebrating if i get 30 hearts over a long period of time
usually by gifts of light
basically it's like
spend 999 hearts and you get nothing!
but it's cool because you get nothing!
no ones forcing you to spend 999 hearts on "nothing"
And you know that the most popular players are going for that 999 heart cost and get it in about a month
Meanwhile it takes 1-2 months for the average daily player to grind up to a black or white cape
didnt someone earlier post a screenshot that they had 1000 hearts 😶
yea
Imagine, the day it goes live, there will already be people who've bought the 999 heart invisible cape
Yup
@kindred fossil yeah but it seems really silly if you do end up wanting to be capeless
its an invisible cape, you can fly with it
Tbh, the invisible cape look is slowly growing on me solely from the preview in closet 
@gaunt oak what is a fan discord?
youll look silly while flying, flapping your arms
basically not an official server, made by fans for fans
Advertising other discord servers is not allowed
@gaunt oak, soliciting and offering currency or trades is against the rules in this server. Please edit or remove your message.
hi skybot
@gaunt oak damn you are so cool to already have 1000 hearts, you are definitely a sky pro
I wouldn’t accept hearts from moths if I had 1000 hearts
I’d tell them to keep it
Since they need it more
A lot more
Is the invisible cape a limited time accessory?
No
no
lol
I just got it in consideration and I’ve never talked about it since I don’t like the idea of being capeless ? But if someone wants it work for it ,and If they don’t wanna work for it then just don’t 🤷🏼♂️ ,it wasn’t here before ,now is there for one day
i would help moths around if they didnt die within the first 30 minutes of guiding them
probably
Oof
really though, not that im upset at them, just a bit sad, i hope they come back one day so we can continue
I love helping moths even tho when I was a moth I thought everyone else was an npc
SAME
I’m so glad to know I wasnt the only one
on my first run in eden i tried to friend people to help me because i was really scared and most of the time they just did the no emote and skadaddled and i had to do eden alone
Oh man that sucks, first time??
Yeah one of my friends ingame thought everyone was NPCs until I began talking to them
oh no D:
Im so thankful I had a friend to help me and I help as many first timer friends as I can
yeah D:
i had to follow someone around at a distance and i was really confused on where to go on that krill tower lookin thing
pipe
Same too, my girlfriend helped me through there for the first time last week
So once I get the layout down more, I'll try to help out more bebes
the first player that ever helped me is barely online anymore
though, getting a little offtopic
looks like Sky to me 😉
but nowadays i mess around in eden and me and my buds do "ultimate skiing" in eden where we fly down the areas where rocks usually fling you down if you fly
all i see is a ceiling 🤓
Oh that sounds fun
That sounds like a thrill lol
I dont have all of the stars yet (in live) but I dont really go to eden at all anymore. its fun to bring people tho
i don't really like to do eden when i get all my stars but if it resets me and my friends can do the full run and then go back in just for a "goof off" run
I should do that
since we have over 20 wing buffs
one of my friend knows an eden oob, they havent had the chance to bring me yet tho
Did my comment scare him from the server?
Or offended. I dunno
Didn’t seem to do enough to get kicked
I don’t think, at least
Right
I guess you can’t have disagreements here...
As long as it stays civil im sure its fine
Yeah
That particular account was an alt from someone who was banned before for more serious rules violations, and they were starting to get troublesome again.
Aah ;w;
Oh yikes
Thanks for clearing things up before they escalated too far 
don't want speculation to get out of hand or anyone to feel like someone was punished unfairly. we try to be very careful about that sort of thing because we love this community.
This has been a very welcoming community from the moment I came in here ;w;
There's been plenty of disagreement and even arguing in these channels, but as long as we hear and respect each other, we can argue till we're blue in the face.
Well that really killed the convo...lol. Why put a 999 heart item in the game if your not supposed to do what you need to or talk about what it takes to get that many? Hope the ban Bot won’t get me for that. You supposed to get those 999 from people just randomly sending you hearts? Please.
I don’t trade hearts and I was able to get all 605 hearts to finish all constellations, now I don’t agree with the price being 999 hearts it’s not impossible to do so
You absolutely can talk about heart trading in this server. There has been plenty of conversation regarding the capeless item and how it affects the community. Our rules stands for not arranging exchanges in this server. You may do as you please privately outside of the server
The bot did not ban anyone, and you can talk about what it takes to get, as long as you don't violate server rules.
It takes 200 days for me 🙋🏻♂️
After u get the 34 hearts from each spirit in each gate the only other way to get hearts is from friends right?
Sadly yes
Hi does anyone know when the new season is supposed to hit live ? Does the amount of days left correlates to the deadline?
so if your popular it’s faster or if you have other means haha
I wish spirits had more hearts :')
in patch notes it’s 23rd
Around jan 23
We are guessing it will be Thursday
not exactly. the newly revived seasonal spirits will each sell one. and message candles and light gifts can also add up to hearts. that relies on friends, but not in the same direct way
message candles are pretty much impossible though lol
Where would I locate the patch notes please 
Are there gonna be wandering spirits for each weekend starting from beginning of season of rhythm
nah, you can work with friends to make message candles work. I've tried coordinating that and it works, but I think it's too much effort 😄
At the end you need to ask to friends to like your candle because it doesn’t always appear
Yes I’ve tried too, I spent 30 minutes looking for my friend at the shrine
Thank you @tawny prairie
that's the part that's most difficult, corgi, I agree!
And you may not even get a heart since they refresh in 24 or 48 hours so
Message candles are very unreliable. Even when I’m actively trying to like friends’ messages, I have to delete like 50 random messages I can’t even read just to see one friend message
And if you don’t have a lot of friends, you don’t stand a chance with that since you need 3 likes for others to even see it
Been playing since launch and I think I got a heart from messages.... 3 times?
if the display mechanism could be tweaked to show friends with higher frequency, I might go back to them. as it is, I almost never even stop at those anymore
Why is there no reaction in #beta-bugs-android 
I’ve had one message heart in beta never in live
Yeah same. I occasionally put some effort into it when it’s a quest, but it’s too time consuming.
oh, thanks for pointing that out Crystal! I'll kick the bot. meanwhile, you can tap the reaction in any bug channel and it will work the same
Takes too long to refresh them
Alright, thank you!
Also seems silly to prioritize messages that already have 200 likes
Ironically I think I got the heart because there are less people in beta so friends see my message
Not really sure how their algorithm works, but that seems counterintuitive
I've gotten several in live, but not recently because it was too much work and I stopped reading them. I love the idea that we see global messages, but in practice it means a lot that I can't read and feels alienating.
I heart them anyway
Do you get a heart for every ten likes ? Or just for the first 10
I like messages written with emojis and I tend to heart those the most
the only time i saw a message below 30 hearts was from my friend and it was in beta :')
Yup. And it would be fine if it’s the occasional, but to have all 6 candles at once be strangers and/or a language I can’t read makes it hard to justify standing there refreshing
Just for the first 10 likes
It’s only the first 10
i also found the PRAISE THE SUN 🌞message someone posted about in #beta-screenshots-videos
Could you imagine if you got ♥️ every 10 and got 200 likes wow
So like, 200 likes just means someone who’s already getting a heart is taking up space for someone else that might have if their message was shown to people
then my 2000+ likes on a candle would have been a big payday
Omg @orchid nexus epic message
Whoa
👀
that was back when each like also sent a push notification. 
Messages aren’t only for hearts ,they’re suppose to express something for players ,so that’s why they stay for at least two days
omg
A friend ♥️ your note!
I also saw a video about the old beta that you could actually post candles everywhere around the worlds?
it was amusing at first and then... ouch. notifications off.
people would be wondering why your phone was going ham
yes daesparks, that had some ups and some downs
I like that :/
its like a hoco group of 10 people arguing about where dinners gonna be
You could fry an egg on your phone with 2000 push notifications
I used to get a heart from message candles every other day in live. Not sure if it was because we had less active players back then, or I just spent a lot more time leaving notes and looking for friends, but I don’t really bother anymore
i stopped leaving messages after i realized friends can find and read them, no thanks, theyre too weird
I have notifications turned off for the game
I also like then a player got first time there was a bot - sky children waiting there to explain stuff ... now u just get in and u don’t know what ur doing at first
I liked free placement of messages. some people truly hated it tho
When I pass by a shrine I heart messages from friends if they’re there, if not, 
I mostly liked it, but it would really clutter the environment sometimes
meh... it was sort of littering places, and low-effort messages going in high-traffic areas were annoying
I think with the filter we have now and a toggle option to disable them if you wanted it could be a good idea again
That sounds kind of messy
Unless they give light orbs. Then put as many as you want 😛
I mostly tried to hide my candles where few or no players would ever find them
I kinda like having message candle shrines more tho. Just wish friends messages got more priority 
except the one I put right in the doorway just past the level trigger, so you could always see it and never read it
Yes, going oob and finding Alex’s candle was always a delight. It was like a race to see who would place a message oob first 
enjoying the beautiful scenery until you suddenly encounter a message candle that only says "bepis", you close the app and never look back
Yeah, sometimes it would really break the experience especially with weird ones, or when several candles were placed in the same spot with no message at all 
I just looked up that meme again
It was conflicting enough that I’m glad they decided to remove it
where is this weekends spirit? prairie?
used to be
wheres it at now
it got replaced by the spirit from isle, you cant claim it
the furry cape one is gone??
yes, thats what im trying to say
oh
Next week may come back
Sad emoji
It's kinda fun to see weird message candles like the panicky ones in wasteland, ones that nod at a nearby glitch, or meditation candles that are like "wait what was the question, could you please repeat that"
from now on im going to leave git gud at every candle shrine in wasteland
I used to try so hard making messages the first 2 months or so.
Now I don’t write anything anymore, mostly because it’s too much effort to like everyone else’s.
I got a good 20~30 hearts with them though..!
How do some people have 118 stars? Are there new star locations
Traveling spirits
But no one knows yet if they’ll give wing buffs in live
@bronze ivy Agree completely with your feedback. Well said! I want the game to step back from pushing the grind and get us coming back because we just want to spend time in the game, not just to earn stuff.
Thanks. I really hope they consider it, and the feedback of others on this problem. I really love this game, and want it to thrive.
Things like the home ice rink are exactly what we need. Not new things to grind for.
Exactly!
Hey guys! Just to notice, how long the previous season spirit stays in the home?
3 days, every weekend
And will be possible to see it in another moment???
It says after a spirit shows up we won’t see them again for a long time
With the current pace of 1 a week and amount of pass season spirits that long time is 4.5 months
But as during those 4.5 months, likely 2 more seasons are added, that will increase it more.
Where can I find today's seasonal candles?
valley ice rink 👍
yeah i was doing that for a bit too :')
@blazing sail totally agree with the stuff to fly through for messing around...
I can't go into the wasteland temple now without wanting to fly slalom around the pillars or fly through the little holes in the grating.
I also agree with you @blazing sail
Even though I am more the type of player that plays for long stretches of time, I do agree we should have more quick to access playgrounds (and really just more playgrounds in general)
Flying in sky is a great joy that never seems to get boring (it’s one of the biggest factors why the daily grind is still somewhat enjoyable to me..!
Personally I would very much like to see more really challenging aerial activities.
That one spirit at the citadel where you have to catch the
things is my favorite!
to bad I can only do it if I drag a moth all the way there..😓
Something I probably should have checked before buuuttt with the traveling spirits are you able to get the items that required the seasonal pass
For a previous season
Yes you are able to
:D ok
Not sure how or if that includes the ultimate gift though, really curious about how they will price that one.. if they add it (I feel like they really should, but it will likely be at a significant cost..)
well they did put the piano in a pack which ‘’was’’ winters old reward item 
winter didn't have a reward item
well more like 4 days ago haha
are the travelling spirits rhythm-exclusive, seasonal, or will they be a permanent addition when the update comes round ? or is it still up for debate ?
ohh sweet thank u
ktjn confirmed it here a while ago
Visiting spirits is a permanent fixture not tied to the season.

I’m curious when spirits get added to the the rotation

like if belonging is added already
or if rhythm will be added right after it ends or after some time 
So I unlocked the 2 lost spirits and they gave me stars at the end of eden like all the other permanent spirits I unlocked so awesome. So I was reborn with 42 stars ⭐️
10 wedges soon 
4 weeks of wandering spirits
Yes I’m so happy they decided to do this because I loved seeing them at the end of the long line of star spirits I’ve unlocked
I wonder if lightseeker spirits will come 
Now every spirit on oob is gonna be shiney
Besides winter
Oh well ...:”0 who knows (?
Yes so excited 😆
we don't know 
Does anyone know what it means when you talk to the fox mask spirit
What am I supposed to do??
Relive it's memories and befriend it is what it says
I've found all the other seasonal spirits
Am I supposed to find the fox lady somewhere???
yes! the travelling spirits will return to their original location, when they first visited
try searching for her somewhere in isle 
Ty
So if I unlock the previous season spirit and couldn't unlock all features I need to wait till it respawn again?
@deft crest are you referring to the previous traveling spirit?
Yea
Yeah it looks like you’ll have to wait til it shows up again, in 24 weeks or so...
this is just speculation of course
We don’t know when or whether traveling spirits will come back
But I assume that they willl all rotate 1 per week through every spirit from seasons past
Ohhh
So it will take 6 weeks per season
Well thx for info
Rhythm ends in April so it will be past before the rotation ends too
So gratitude, lightseekers, belonging, rhythm is 24 weeks.
Rhythm is only 10 weeks (I think they said 10 weeks, so if the Season of Lucha Libre (jk) also lasts 10 weeks and then Season of Apocalypse (also jk) starts 2 weeks after that, then we will likely have 30 weeks before Gratitude spirits come again.
In case anyone is confused, I just made up the names for the seasons that will come after Rhythm.
Though a “Season of Darkness/Apocalypse” has some really cool potential!!!
April, oh no....
//softly flops over
Imo the seasonal hair looks really cool
And also I want a season based off of the wasteland!!
I love it so much
Okay so.... they swapped out the bonus spirit again for the fox-face one, instead of the guy with the red cape. I spent a lot of candles/hearts to grab that cape and was aaalllmooosstt there and..... bam. Cape guy is gone and foxy lady is back, and all of my candles were for nothing. Is this a normal thing in beta? You spend and the switch? Only been playing beta for a month or so now.
*they
It's a new feature. Last week was the first time one was introduced
The cape spirit will probably be back again
I like qpirs feedback
I also do!!
Other than complaining about the no cape because it’s too much drama
I want elder trees
It’d be a better incentive than the stupid capeless
Ikr
Yes I love that :0
And the hammer :0
And the The hockey sticks from valley:0
Lol
a perspective I’m not seeing much on the no-cape is that it’s not really an ‘endgame’/‘incentive’ item, so much as a funny joke item.
i don’t like the drama either
Good
@woeful lodge Your idea to have the cape cost hearts sent to others is genius. Hats off to you!
Yeah, prepare for this to escalate when it hits live. 👀💦
Need a tissue?
Lol
Im@worried about the new portal / checkpoint system
Especially with how frequently friends get separated
Ngl Looney your feedback was better than the others
They are just too much for the past few days by now
/blushes/
Makes me sick
Haha, altho I read how I think they at least made it harder to get separate from friends.
I hope so
Or I think I read that..
Errreeee
I don’t remember seeing that but certainly it’s likely that I missed stuff
XD
I thought the new system was implemented partially because it fixes the seperation problem
It’ll be stress tested in live, tho. If true.
My memory’s bad.
The other thing that I need to test now that they finished the new checkpoint system is whether 2 friends kneel at home at the sameish time will we join the level together
Don’t we all?
I remember joining my friend after 10 seconds it kicked me to another server :/
Like what?!
Anyone want to test checkpoints with me?
Either way, expect some confusion with the new shrine system. Especially with those who don’t have easy access to patch notes.
Definitely!
“Help I keep starting at the beginning of the level whener I run through the portal”
🤦🏻♂️
I really wish there was some way to easily access the notes in-game. So that everyone’s on the same page.
there is though
Hmm best to tell everyone about the patch as soon the season comes out for Live
Read
Lol I not spells gud
At least obvious to the player...
(I did it on purpose)
I’m gonna go test checkpoints with a friend. If anyone wants to join me, tag me and I’ll send an invite.
it’s not obvious, but patch notes are available by tapping support in the settings menu
OOH there’s another update
Like what if there was some sort of bulletin board (outside of the daily message.) where players can check for news at any time. (Without resetting your game.)
REALLY?!?! I had no idea @worn field Seriously checking that out now
Yes, but not every player is going to think on doing that.
I didn’t even know about it. Lol!
Haha, exactly.
yeah it’s a little hidden
Prime example. And not every player is going to have the guidance to tell them where to check.
even if they did know they were there, most players probably wouldn’t read them anyway
Hey @arctic pecan who do we need to poke to get awareness up about being able to see the patch notes from the support menu?
At the very least we could plaster that info all over the discord, insta, FB, and twitter
Patch notes are posted to social medias, pretty sure.
a newsboard in game would be really nice
But again, not everyone has a social media.
I guess? Although it did stem from possible confusion with the new meditation method...
Yeah news board would be lovely tbh
During lightseekers a lot of people didn't know about the mask not being the ultimate reward
I feel like some sort of way to access that info and have it out clearly for players inside the app would be nice
Are you guys on Android? I'm not seeing a new download on TestFlight.
I’m on iOS
Hmm.
iOS and Android.
I'll restart.
I just downloaded 145372
most recent update is 145372 for me
Oh I have that.
Sorry for the confusion.
‘Tis fine!
Had a "Oh noes did I buy what I wanted before they scramble the trees again?" moment there.
Ok I’m off to do some more testing and everyone keep raving about the valley improvements
Yee! 
Thanks for telling me about the patch notes location. The latest patch notes I see are for January 10th?
I don’t kno
don’t know what?
I’m not sure about the date
jan 10th update was a major update, with the rhythm season and the visiting spirits. subsequent updates have been smaller, generally jusy making changes here and there, not adding a lot.
Eh ok
Ok so checkpoint stuff: in beta, with the new checkpoint, if me and a friend are at home and we both resume the same checkpoint at the same time we both show up in the level together in the same session
And I am able to join a friend who is in a locked area
Ooh but I didn’t check whether it matters that my savepoint is in that same locked area
Brb
think they bought it back since they changed the prices and wanted to see our reactions
I didn’t get to see any new prices
The answer to any “Why” question in beta: to see if it works better
It was all bought out. Except for some reason the blessings were back unbought
@hybrid wedge that’s vague tho. I was asking what they were testing to make better
If they spent time writing out all the details and decision making process, they’d never have time to finish updating anything in the game ^^
Mind telling me the new pricing?
Ooh much cheaper
Something in the middle
THEY
Plus, there are many times where telling a person the goal of your experiment taints the experiment. There are a number of reasons for not spelling everything out.
I just posted a screenshot of everything under the ascended candle
Ok Id like to ask everyone else to mess with checkpoints with friends
I’m getting really mixed results
Especially as regards “locked” areas
If my friend and I have the same checkpoint we port into the same session
I can join my friend in a locked area
Sometimes
@hybrid wedge think of what I saw tho. The current spirit was gone, replaced by an old one with the two blessings unbought, but no price change that I could see. My immediate reaction was to assume a bug. I even made a bug report.
It’s the same as entering a portal before if you had the same checkpoint, for Eden and ||the office|| for example
If I port home from a locked area, I can then join my friend in that same locked area
I don’t believe I could do that in live @radiant drum
I’m testing with the prarie cave atm
You definitely can continue eden and ||the office|| with friends from home if you both have the checkpoint there
Just cross the eden or vault portal together
In live I mean
I was gonna be slightly mad they made the mask cheaper because I already had 121 candles prepared for the mask and was preparing for the cape but then I realized
Cheaper
I can then find my friend in the constellation and join my friend in the prarie cave
I might be able to get more stuff now
Beta is always subject to change
@woeful lodge I’m not sure I follow. Can you explain with more steps 😄
@spark lance im sorry that’s just what I saw someone else post. I may be wrong.
Sure @radiant drum
Would DM be easier?
And there goes my wifi
I think here is fine because this might be a good experiment for others to try as well
The feature is new so is nice that we’re testing it out
I’m just not sure what the goal or new thing is
Ok
Odd checkpoint behavior for verification re: locked areas.
- I enter prarie WITH FRIEND
- Friend and I enter prarie cave (locked area)
- I teleport home FRIEND STAYS IN LOCKED AREA
- from home, I find my friend’s Star then JOIN friend
- I am taken to my friend in prarie cave
This only seems to work if my checkpoint was in the same session as my friend.
If I move my checkpoint then move it back to the cave then go home and try to join my friend I get the normal message: “your friend is in a place...”
@radiant drum
I did this in the valley citadel also
I haven’t tried it in eden yet and I can’t get to ||the office|| in beta yet
but prairie cave isn’t a locked area
Um... it always has been for me...?
Maybe “locked” is a wrong word?
You can’t join friends in prarie cave
Sometimes there’s errors where you can’t join your friend (even tho you should be able to). Maybe you’ve always got the error when trying to join there 😄
I’m pretty sure I’ve joined friends there before, but will test on live and beta just in case 👀
... every time... 🤦🏻♂️
Hehe
I’ll go try it in the forest clearing next
Cuz I know for sure that’s locked
Same thing definitely didn’t work in Eden
The only way to make sure I’m in the same session as my friend there is to teleport in at the same time
In any case that alleviates my concern with the new resume checkpoint system
It’s a little more finicky than holding hands and running through a portal, but at least we still end up together at our destination if we had our checkpoints in the same room
Ah ok
Lighting is definitely acting up: I entered the game now and it was daylight, double-checked the travelling spirit and it turned night time
Oooo
Oh they halved the prices of the items in the seasonal shop? That was a quick reaction time
huh?
The weekend returning spirits
ohhh
The one with the cat mask returned and the items she has were half the price they were originally
Looks like they quickly adjusted based on feedback, nice
well diggy darn i actually hope some of the more detailed things keep their price because
i have almost 200 candles
Hehehe, nice B)#
and i prepped for a very long time D:
Looks like you'll get a bunch of them then
haha yeah!


i actually kinda hope the cape keeps its price though, its very dear to my heart D:
Ive grown to like the red cape a lot, but my joy from it doesn't come from denying others the ability to get it. I want people to find and get the customization items they enjoy and to enjoy the game at the same time.
its not that, its more of that thats a pretty good price for something that people payed for before this season even happened
the fox mask is understandable because i think it was the cheapest mask? but im not sure if it was payed for or not
I dont know where it was on the cosmetics tree
The isle mask was free, but pass exclusive
Orange cape was 5 hearts, pass exclusive as well
hhmm
If people were to buy the cat mask using IAPs it would still cost them $7, which is a lot but since the price can be offset with in-game candles it becomes manageable
Oh god I totally forgot they made the last cosmetics require hearts, that was a nightmare o _ o'
Hi guys
Yeah I think the reduced price is still expensive, but more manageable
Is the new season tomorow or next week? 😭
Their old prices were... not... that...
im alright with the cape being reduced to maybbee 50? 40? but 30? D:
Next week @blissful lintel
Awww 😦
@kindred bluff Its a price thats attainable, means that other people get to enjoy the warm, fuzzy, ascot-infused cape
It's not like we're playing an MMO with a free market where everything becomes an investment, its just a clothing item
You can always submit feedback on the new prices as well. I’m sure they will listen, but it must be tough balancing the prices so it’s fair to both players that got it during the season and to new players
i feel like it could gradually increase in price thr more people get the swing of things
That assumes there will be a cut-off point for new players though
hmmm
Also, this game aint built for grinding. The concept of grinding this game is essentially speedrunning the game on a regular basis. At least for me that has really eroded the experience of the levels themselves @ _ @
I dont want to subject any new players to that
am i under estimating the halved price of the fox mask?
is it like 30? cause thats totally fine
It was halved, from 50 to 25
ah
Same for the Candy Corn Cap, 25 rounded down to 12
You dont have to like it XD
the sky squad fan disc was very shook by this whole thing
me and a friend were just kinda upset because we spent a lot of time really intensely grinding for this stuff
Maybe take this as a lesson for the future. This is beta, and all things are subject to change. Understanding things are not set in stone and might change completely will save you some frustration ^^
ahh but its still good to come prepared
I feel you, I spent a lot of time getting these items too. Id argue theres a better lens to look through this however...
- TGC ultimately set the experience for the season pass. It's not on new players to bear the burden for our season pass experience but TGC for not making the experience a diverse and interesting one.
- This game is supposed to be about friendship and altruism. It's not very altruistic to expect other people to pay a lot for an item just because of the experience you had getting it.
But hey, at least it changed to a lower price not higher 
Oh boy if they did...
but a lot of the cool things that are free outweigh the pass stuff for me and makes me nit really want to get it in the first place
xylophone hawk mask pants and 3 hair
and the gratitude items outbalance it even more
by 9 to 7
Hmm? Im not sure I understand the point you're trying to make
basically theres significantly more things on the free spectrum of the season thats actually pretty rad compared to pants, capes, and a piano people already bought in previous packs
and gratitude spirits puts more rad items on the free spectrum as well
Well I guess you dont have to buy it if you want, although few people were involved in the Limited Live version of the game compared to the size of the player base
Very few people have those capes and pants owo
ill definitely regret ranting about this later since my hype and adrenaline will calm down and ill realize okay its just a season but i need to get this off my chest or i might spontaneously combust
Hahahahahaha
Ive felt that way about some of my experiences in Sky, its a game i regularly feel conflicted about
i always want to feel special in games and i love rare items in real life D: but then realize they are pretty useless
or not as cool as they seemed
Id say thats kind of the point when it comes to manufactured scarcity
Its not about how you actually feel
It helps drive sales, but its more important to think about what you actually like or want to do, and to try and set aside the FOMO that's being intentionally generated
i would prob give my liver for the red/orange cape
and a piece of my spine for the dragon mask

After the third season finished I felt like I could look at the clothing items I actually wanted to wear
Atm im just rocking a banana cape and pan flute, keeping it simple
i only havve 3 normal in-game capes and 3 season capes
Ah, so you're waiting on the red seasonal cape?
the fluffy gratitude one yeah! :0
\o/
i wanna be a fluffy borb
well, unless the dragon mask comes out of ofc
i would be fluffy dragon
I want the duck GOOSE MASK
H O N K
The pants this season look like they fell out of a late 80s wardrobe though, so much purple
O _ O
Did someone say bell?
The goose has its prize
hjonk
honjk
hjönk
If sky had a pet goose

like Oreo

It steals people's candles
I wanna pet
honk honk
ded
Mes needs help for seasonal
I missed the season I only got this emote
Winter seasonal
The new one coming?
Yep the vault spirit

will the red cape elf hat gratitude traveling spirit come back since, after the update, the cat mask spirit came back?
Not sure with the beta, although keep in mind everything you collect in the beta wont be permanent
was just a little confused about the order in which the traveling spirits appear thanks @stoic badger 👍
it could be randomized in live @shadow minnow
but in beta it's cat/fox/weasel mask and then red/orange cape!
@kindred bluff thanks dude! now i’ll know what to save up for lol
the fox mask's prices got reduced in half to 25 candles and the hat's price with the spirit also got cut in half though so! 
no problem!
ohh
hmm!
i'm not in beta so i'm just going off speculation!
@shadow minnow nevermind! it's 40 haha
40?!?
it was reduced by 10!
40
yess

4 0
Inhales!
i just found out first hand @kindred bluff
goodbye 5 candles😔😔
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
yes
used to be 50
guys how much total price of ball trick spirit's constellation? (seasonal)
@atomic yoke Keep in mind that they have to appease the annoying people with IAP privilege attitude
what’s iap @pulsar edge ?
In app purchase
ohhhh
i didn't have gratitude but
Bruh
“IAP privilege attitude” is “I paid for it, so it’s not fair to me that others can get it without paying”
i now have a screwed sleep cycle because of grinding until 5 am
i have 200 candles from grinding
Yaaa
i try to do as much research as i can
people are going to spend money either way, dont see the issue
well, for pass yeah haha
For the record, I bought gratitude pass, and I’m happy they’re bringing these spirits back
Even though I already have it all
i don't have gratitude but yeah it doesn't seem fair to just give something away for something you can get straight up so i'm glad that they're the price that they are
I’m just chiming in. I need to know. Why aren’t the people complaining about the gratitude traveler things being free also complaining about office glitches?
It’s confusing
Because these people are the office glitchers
I personally don’t care about the office glitches
what office glitches?
But if you’re gonna complain about people getting free content that you paid for
They patched almost all of them out anyway
i know two office glitches
There are only 3 ways to glitch in now
oh
ohhh i see
There used to be over 10
they did some mighty fine work
Why complain about the gratitude stuff that maybe costed you $15 at most? But then you don’t complain about those who glitch past a barrier that people pay $30 to get past officially?
I’ve seen literally no complaints about that
._.
because the people who bought the $30 cape used the glitches before they purchased
Well for one, office isn’t a item, it’s just a place, and you can get in just by having a friend
i don't even go there that often, people are too noisy and i only get candles and chat with friends
but it has connection issues now so not even chatting with people
Doesn’t matter if they glitched in or not. It still kind of insults others who maybe didn’t glitch in before paying
For me
i thought it was 25 dollars
And I’m suffering from the Excluded Vat that they added
which is too much for me to ask for seeing that that's literally over our daily budget that our dad gives us
Also, these people are afraid that if the so-called “noobs” have all the old cosmetics, they won’t be special anymore.
and my mom
Eee
i mean i'm a 4 month noob and i say yeah it's kinda removing the quality
It’s still strange that the main argument of many of these complaints are extremely hypocritical. Some of the complaints I’ve seen...if you don’t want anyone else to get the gratitude items just say so. Don’t beat around the bush
sorry to argue
part of it might be that people will often take you in to the office anyway
@slate oar yep
yess

i've only participated in belonging and a small fraction of lightseekers
each new season is special and crafted with care
I just don’t like people arguing over something dumb that’s all :/
I’m staring at Ktjn’s status and I should probably listen to it
SNEEP
Yeah

it's kinda like real world scenarios where the old are artifacts and the new are to be
everyone has their reasons, id rather not jump to conclusions, but by the time a wandering spirits comes by, the items youve paid for are probably 4-6 months old by now, it has worn out
sneepy town you guys go~
i don't think seasons should be brought back and i don't mind admiring the old seasons i cant get
even though yeah it'll make me sad
Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, today is a gift, that is why they call it the present.
i mean 4 days from now isn't really a mystery haha
It’s not in reference to sky tho
kung pow panda
Who knows Lost sips tea
@kindred fossil yep

It’s a quote by Oogway from Kung Fu Panda
Isn’t that before he dies?
That fennec fox?!
u gay from kung pow panda
Like right before then he says that?
No wait the tortoise
anyway my adrenaline has calmed down and i'm just content with whatever's happening right now as long as the prices for anything turns 2 candles
The tortoise master
my time has come..


