#beta-discussion
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Dance, blowing kisses, and thinking used to be standard emotes
Winter had 6 emotes too iirc
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But only 1 or 2 new?
Hang about. Theyād have to test winter in beta again surely? The video I watched today some of the levels were remarkably different to their current set up.
not the kiss and thinking emotes!!
Yes, winter is definitely going through some changes
I assume they will because the way the seasons are done is pretty different now from the original winter
Iām excited to see!
The regular spirits got robbed
Justice for Regular Spirits! ( especially for Whale Call Spirit! )
The spirits are fine. We got robbed!
repeats suggestion to put them back in the normal emotes
I miss them so much 
winter 2: electric boogaloo
So people who did winter in the soft launch, do they still have those emotes?
Yep
did winter have an official name like gratitude and lightseekers have?
or was it just called winter season?
Just winter
I wonder if theyll rename it!
Not the actual developers
Iām sure the other devs have a lot of good winter emotes too tho ^^
Mhmm true
Other similarities: they all have a cape that has a sort of flower petal shape going on
Oh truuuue!
So.... if beta testing of light seekers finishes in 15 days... how long until the next season starts testing do you suppose?
Probably around when lightseekers ends in live

Iād love more flowers in this game. A giant flower garden as a level. (Flowers being giant).
YES
even standing on top of them
would be amazing!
well more like lying down on the big flowers for me
i want a level with big plants and teeny tiny skykids in comparison
giant flower sublevel š
theyre normal height but the plants are just huge
yaaaaass!
Yeah, using them as stepping stones. Petal to petal. We need some orchids in there. And big lilies
new potential Forest ideas!
i was kinda doin that in the one clover/lilypad piece i did but flowers would be so pretty ;__;
(Butpleasenorain
)
imagine walking through a flowerfield but all the flowers are above you with the light shining through...
the flowers will die!
the light gets colored by the petals
awaits pinesā new concept art piece š
IM READY
i just show up at TGC's door with big ol puppy dog eyes
italian kiss emote
a basket of cookies
fantastic
and a bribe
jk jk theyre _very stunning _
I think crabs kinda do swim
especially with that one crab in the Forest Temple
( well not really but still )
That water is pretty shallow though
Itād be better if they could be rounded up and carried away somewhere they can exist happily without skykids stomping through their territories.
Flower level... there should be a lovely big toad somewhere. Just sitting somewhere. No danger, just something lovely to see and say hi to as youāre passing through
light frogs š
Yup.
light frogs who hop throughout the level leading you to the Big Toad
Yes!!! Oh I love that idea!
Helpful ones like the Mantas!
And fireflies. I have never seen a firefly irl.
me too actually
FIREFLIES WOULD BE AWESOME
I just downloaded procreate yesterday. Need to work out how to use it because I have ideas!! Iām a pencil and paper sort of person. I donāt usually even use colour but ... ideas š
boon i hope one day youre able to see fireflies, theyre magical š
TAT omg they are
actually saw the locals in Thailand advertising for the fireflies
and yes, me and my fam actually went to the boat that leads you to the side of the forest with fireflies
abouuuut that tho....
none of us or the visitors get a chance to see the fireflies in person so....thats sucks
ok ok but
Imagine
small mice with big ears
that could be used for flying
fireflies in game would be really cool, ive never seen them either. i pretend the little light specks you see in levels sometimes are like fireflies š kind of reminds me of how on the stream today someone said they'd never experienced rain.
How did TGC talk about whether winter events will come back
in today's live?
they essentially said that they want to keep the integrity of having seasons be limited time, one time only, and if/when winter comes back it won't be the exact same to keep that integrity
Thank you, @proven trout !
Cool ideas.... Iām looking at fireflies in my backyard irl right now š§šæāāļøš
I heard they were running low on pants so winter was canceled
After all there were no pants this season, we canāt expect them to have any for next season
To shift the talk back to beta
I really wish there would be an update that just said āadded secret doors to wallsā
they sent all the pants to the space station to protect astronauts
Gotta get new pants sizes for those resize potions!
Not entirely sure if this is the right place to share this, but today I was talking to my friends who are all anticipating the android release and it became a discussion where it led to the possibility of Sky becoming available for other platforms and whether or not TGC would be able to transfer saved data to those.
I remember I used to play BDO (Black Desert) before they used Steam and I couldn't ever recover my existing account - only for multiple admins telling me after submitting numerous tickets that I would have to re-buy the game through Steam. (Which tore me to pieces cause I spent so many hours on it rip)
We plan to bring Sky to additional platforms and will do our best to ensure cross-play/cross-save amongst them all 
Hopefully that brings you a bit of peace of mind 
YASSS THANK YOU my heart
@empty inlet they will let the community know ... TGC is working so hard on iOS and Android, letās not press for timelines of other platforms and trust they will do their very best to introduce them when ready.
ayo
@livid vine I was just in there and the lights were off but the TV was on
:0
Check it out if you havenāt seen that b4
i dont got beta cape :(
I can take you if you dm me a friend code
ight
Sorry for my words, thatās more like a guess that whether tgc will eventually introduce their That Game Account for players to link their game data
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I do honestly think the game would be better imo on pc. But thatās just bc I like typing on one better
So how do you get involved with beta?
!iosbeta
The beta is full at the moment. To join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-announcements!
@tardy apex if youāre interested in the Android beta, read more in #beta-announcements and #news
Ok!
The beta is full at the moment. To join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-announcements!
How do I get the beta cape?
!betareward
The Beta reward was a one-time thing for the testing period prior to the iOS global launch. A future reward is not planned.
beta reward means beta cape here
Iāve been playing the beta and havenāt gotten a cape from it?
Have you been playing beta before iOS global launch?
Iāve been playing since they sent out the latest link
When they first started the light seeker season
Then you probably can't get it
The beta cape was a gift from tgc to the testers who helped out prior to the global launch. There is, however, a founders cape that looks similar and is available. You can find the founders cape by opening the shop menu while youāre in the office @edgy plover
I canāt get to the office without a beta cape
there're various bugs that can let you in without a cape
or you can ask someone with a cape bring you in
If you need someone with a blue cape to help you get in, you can post in #beta-looking-for-group !
Thank you both!
The founders cape will also let you access the office area on your own, so once you get it you can go back whenever you want! Like other shop items, the founders pack is free in beta. In live, itās around $30usd
Yw!
Hello?
hello!
hmmm seem like everyone at Beta busy atm
howās everything going for you?
feeling disabled
disabled how?
I can't play beta normally and my final exam is next Monday so I have to study
OMG i just realised ||the girl in the room in the office wasnāt a real person thatās so creepy!!||
@crystal fractal how do you mean ||not real||?
@hollow compass ||shes a machine||
NPC
I got teal cape from that
@torn scarab thatās not the teal cape, itās the founderās cape
@hollow compass ||she has a shop???||
idk i thought she was ||real... then she started taking and it was so creepy||
||It's just direction|| @hollow compass
|| When I met that npc, I was scared ||
Some people are totally clueless on how to get the cape. I spent a lot of candles just to unlock chat to tell them they need to click the store. š
@torn scarab direction?
||i liived for that encounter, I hope we get more npcs||
Like where shop is located
Just forget about it
um, ok?
The normal shop while youāre in ||the office||
Are android beta and ios beta cross platform right?
||nothing wrong with her||, i was just surprised
@torn scarab yes. They are crossed.
So that means I can talk here
yes?
I kidn of think of the Sky kids as any and no gender
Yeah, but pronoun are chosen things so
Determine?
'they' works fine?
I just kinda consider all the elders without any pronoun aside from they/them but i mean, they have confirmed pronoun i think
so i was curious if ||the npc|| had confirmed pronoun
"it"
eeek
Huh
in Finnish there is only one 3rd person singular pronoun, which is quite handy
I dont even know anymore for norwegian, i just default to they
but in spoken Finnish the word for "it" is often used instead - lol
most indo-European languages have gendered 3rd pronouns as well as gendered nouns
but to get back to the game, I don't personally think any of the Sky kids have a gender, but I know some people prefer some hairstyles over others and refer to them as female or male
language has been in beta testing for soooo long, but it's still full of bugs. it'll probably never go live.
so going by that the NPC would be female
I can confirm that the extra seasonal candles are not in beta Wasteland
Express yourself freely with the cosmetics. Be whoever you want to be 
No boundaries so go crazy!
yeah, that's what I was saying
I don't assume someone is female because they are wearing a supposedly female hair
fwiw, I never thought of Forest Elder as a woman until someone called them "Auntie Forest"
one of my friends ( who btw doesnāt play Sky ) thought Forest Elder is a male so each to their own headcannons
looks like anime logic which looks female but actually male
Why do we have to mix gender politics with the game. Heck, if you feel fine with what you are wearing, forget what you think or others think you are. I call them kids. Cuz thats basically what they are.
If i want to be an attack humvee, ill be an attack humvee
ok letās move on with something else!
actually, did anyone here
No matter IOS or Android, manage to get to any OOBs?
š¤ just curious
especially the Sunny Forest
cos i know that one got blocked off
Yes š
whats the office event today?
I've been to plenty oob areas in beta
one hand mode completely broken in live?
Hello
Hey because I joined the sky beta membership dose that mean I get a blue cape in game
If you look for it, yes
What do you mean look for itš¤Ø
ok it works for me again
there're two blue capes
one you won't be able to get
another one is available to purchase
the other one you can but you need to look for || the hidden area with the blue cape ||
Um that last part is blacked out
More generally speaking, there're 4 blue capes in the game with three different color
in case you're not looking for that specific blue cape
Ok I see
Thx
Um I thought I knew the hidden area but no, are you able to tell me where that is
You need someone that had a blue cape to bring you there.
If you want send me a QR code and I could bring you there @halcyon nest
Ok thx
Is it likely that it will take a long time to approve the beta version?
It can take a few days excluding weekends.
I see. alright!
Hi, I'm wondering how do I get accepted into beta?
The beta is full at the moment. To join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-announcements!
You can still sign up for the Android beta, so check out those channels
Why is there a hidden tiny room in prairie cave that you can get stuck in?? Lol
There are some spaces that are too small ... if youāre really stuck, you know how to get out?
It's not too small though, I just ran out of flaps to fly back out
Heyy
I want to play with my friends on ios
With my Android phone
But as I scan the code while inviting it says failed / cancelled
@plush dagger are you both using the correct version? Live invites wonāt work in beta, and beta invites wonāt work in live. Also, friend invites are single-use, so if the code has already been used then itāll give you an error when you try to scan it. You can try sending your friend the code instead, or ask them to create a new one for you! š
I still have loneliness
@cinder bridge there was one, but it hasn't been updated since July, so it's unplayable at the moment
thank you!
I'm still thinking we need a private space in game
When I was accessing constellation earlier today, someone was shooting firework around, and made me hard to see thing in my constellation
On the other hand, I think Home is a place that we can spend time with friends or strangers, so i'm more approval for you can do anything you want in Home
yeah, I really miss my private "administrative" space
sometimes I just want to log in and check some things and/or send light/hearts
how to get beta?
please refer to #news and #beta-announcements for more information
Also is there anyway planned for us to get the mask on the quest giver?
hi! is there anyone who knows how to get to the space station?
you need to ||visit the office on a day when it is dark and then approach the TV||
I suggested something for a private space in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived 
This may be annoying because Iāve only been playing sky since itās release, but how can I get the beta version? I would genuinely love to see new developments to the game. Or is beta not an option anymore?
@last grove Q: How do I join the Sky Beta?
Right now, the Beta is currently full but we will be doing more Beta invite waves as testing requires. Please follow this Discord or join our Testflight Facebook group for when the next beta wave opens, as we will not be announcing these over over the newsletter. These will be clickable links that are first-come-first-serve, so it will fill quickly!
I know thatās probably a question thatās asked a lot but Iām new to discord and didnāt know where the links were at first. Now I know. Thank you š
@last grove Oh that's fine ^^ Had my problems at first too so I don't blame you xD have fun!
@last grove check the #news and #beta-announcements for updates
I love this game
._.
Lol
They changed the badges, they're now visible to everyone. :O
Or at the very least I can see newbie badges on shadowed people, I have the shepherd badge
Something really weird just happened to me. I did Eden this morning with my live account then logged into beta and did Valley (wing light and candle light collection). Just now, I went to do Valley with my live account and I couldnāt get any candles from the races or candles but all my wing light kids were still there.
I donāt think itās related to your beta, I think itās just a bug that you didnāt get candles for the races with your live account
beta and live are not linked in any way
Thatās what I thought. The coincidence was just mind blowing. š¤Æ
@brazen flicker my ios friend downloaded from app store and I downloaded from a link sent here for beta
If your ios friend downloaded it from the app store then it's the live version, so you can't play with them since live and beta are separate
I'm alone most of the time too
Me too
Do you mean you never see anyone else around? Itās very common for beta to be quiet during testing downtime. I think most people are playing the season Live now.
@hollow compass The Android beta is actively being tested now.
When players are new to the Android beta and to our Discord, they may not know thereās an Android discussion channel.
also you can still meet android players if youāre playing ios beta?
true
I just find that beta in general seems less active, because Live is out now
but perhaps Android isn't like that?
I don't know how many are in Android beta, though
As I understand, you cannot become a beta tester for iOS right now?
that's right
@hidden dew keep watching the #news and #beta-announcements channel for future waves of invites
Ok
@hollow compass Android isnāt like the iOS beta because thereās no live version yet. We donāt know how many Android testers there are.
exactly
but I remember iOS beta being quite lonely at times also even before Live
Just wait in home , and see how many new borns come in at some days
You immediately know when thereās a new android beta wave
Can I still play iOS beta if I already started in the live session?
Yes they are separate apps.
Oh really so what the beta one called? @spark lance
Itās called Sky Beta. But you have to be part of the iOS or Android beta group to have access to it.
I assumed you were asking because you were already part of the beta group.
So I assume I canāt join now? @spark lance
You can still join android beta but iOS beta is already full so you canāt join
@stone elk Watch the #news and #beta-announcements channels for future iOS beta invites waves
K. Thx
@plush dagger if your iOS friend downloaded from the App Store (and not through TestFlight) then theyāre probably playing the live version. If thatās the case, then you guys might have to wait to play together- either until Android goes live, or until more spots are available in iOS beta and your friend can become a beta tester.
Shoutout to the person that gave me a one-person concert in the butterfly cave in Daylight Prairie yesterday. I've been having a rough time irl lately and that really made my day <3
anything new in the beta?
There probably wonāt be any major updates to beta until the season ends
There hasnāt been an update in almost a week and it was just hotfixes
live: 0.6.1 (141257)
beta: 0.6.1 (141244)
because: live has a greater build number
therefore: live has the latest build
conclusion: live is beta
wait a sec
no
however, some features from beta have been introduced incrementally in Live, thus giving Live a higher build number
such as: pushing the patches to Live, but not the new features (badge for example)
Yeah. Noticed yesterday that the rain stops in live now like in beta when you activate the jellyfish. That wasnāt the case before this last hotfix.
I think that for some new features TGC wants to hear out feedback first. They've done some changes to the badge system, for example.
that, need more interact with people but itās nearly empty in beta tho
i canāt test it on my own even if i have alts
although i really hate the idea of showing the badge to everyone
I'm not sure what there is to test about it, other than seeing it an interacting with other players based on it
imagine you have a badge above your head if youāre the top 10% of the class and another badge if youāre the lowest 10% of the class
I have no need for a badge to show my merit and I have no need to base my gameplay on other players' badge grade
it's usually fairly obvious if a player needs help by looking at their outfit and number of stars on their cape
yeah right
for the same reason I am hesitant to wear the beta cape in Live, I would be uncomfortable having a badge above my head that basically signals "Help Manager"
you can't force kindness out of people
imo white cape looks better than beta cape
white cape is divine!
no matter how, you need to let people to have the willingness to be kind and helpful spontaneously
exactly
it can come really naturally from how to design the quest or puzzles
like the wasteland light seeker season spirit is really doing a great job
I mean, any time I see someone calling at a 2-person door in Prairie, I rush to help
it's not a big thing
Same @hollow compass My founders cape only comes on when Iām specifically ||office|| bound. Otherwise Iām rocking my purple.
They've changed how the badges work but I'm not sure how much they've changed them lol
but I'd hate to have people following me, chirping to get my attention, because of some obligation
^ same
ah, purple is also pretty!
I wish more people would stop and help. Same with the doors in vault. Just 2 moments of your time to help open the door, but the amount that totally ignore and continue on their way.
It is. I mean, they are no doubt in that same position sometimes.
it is especially rude in beta, where there are fewer players around at any given moment
None, most of the time, for me anyway. Itās a lonely world in there.
today i saw a guy chirping all around the first floor in vault, i guess (s)he wanted to open the door but never went near the door
they may have been looking for ||the office entrance||
then iāll leave him alone
like 1-2 calls per second is my standard of not spamming
iāve never remember those codes lol
then the quest like the forest seasonal spirit, it would be much better if the ball energy drops slower when more people are in the circle
currently thereās totally no benefit to do that with multiple players
also the vault
I think a lot of the spirit quests don't benefit from having more than 2-3 people
or have a bigger circle when more people in it
i would even hate others if they come in and interrupt me
it was the case for the gratitude season with the wasteland spirit
carrying an orb is generally trickier
I remember when all quests were like that
the one in the palace ruin (look out) was h*ll
Does being tall make you any faster in skipping/flying/running ?
no
So itās just a cosmetic difference. Same for being smaller as well ?
yes, when you're chibi you get that funny little "naruto" run
but it's not faster
you just have shorter legs
however, you may find it harder to jump up on higher ledges
Yea I realised that and also harder to light/burn due to being short
yep, and you're more easily blown around in Eden
Alright oh bummer I thought I was actually skipping further then usual š¤£
Would you guys prefer the Old Aviary or the current Home hub?
old aviary even tho i wasnt there
but from those pics
It looked alot nicer
and 'home' feeling
Ya same, I feel like the current Home hub is way too small. In the old version, I like that managing friends happened in a different area from the portals, it seems more peaceful and I can take my time if I have a lot of friends.
Now everyone gathers at the constellation map area to send hearts or buy things, and it's honestly pretty annoying if thereās too many people... I also canāt talk to my friends properly cause random people just keep intruding, cause the area is so small
Old Aviary with the private space for your constellation
or maybe new Home, but definitely with the private space
it's really annoying how crowded the platform gets sometimes
or when a friend is there and you can see them chatting with you, but you just have 500 other friends to light up first
hello hello :^P how can i join iOS beta pleas?
Yes!!! Aviary and private space. It has a totally different (almost richer look and feel to it) judging by the videos Iāve seen. Here is wishing so very hard.
I haven't played the beta in such a long time
@potent garden iOS beta is full at the moment, but do keep a lookout on #news and #beta-announcements for future invite waves.
Hi, I saw a spirit in ||office area|| in the middle of the sky above the cloud, tried following the spirit but eventually nothing happened. Anyone knows what's the spirit about?
yeah
Thatās it, thatās all itās about
Hey can anyone come help with the second floor vault door in beta plz?
are you still there?
oh, well, I helped some other players instead, I think š
lol
"Are you on Discord" gets flagged in chat
I'm the white cape guy
they were two Founder's capes and we glitched into prayer emote room
The one sitting in chair now
Lmao
Am I only lonely person in the game?
Feedback on social ranking: I don't believe that it enhances relationships or a spirit of helpfulness in the game, and I hope it does not get implemented in live.
I think while it could be fine: I don't enjoy the idea of any sort of competitive ranking in this game. That being said.. if other people can't see your ranking it might be okay. I dislike the idea of players judging other players based on a superficial rank.
Feedback on social ranking: I see no practical use for it. I donāt need others to know how kind or helpful I am. I donāt want to be approached at all and any time by people expecting me to help (much like the beta cape with the secret area). Itās usually obvious if someone is new in the game and then itās up to us more experienced players to help, if we have the time and energy in that moment.
Social Ranking: I like the idea of it being a more private thing. Other wise you have players "helping" each other for the wrong reason. It is quite a vain feature that pulls away from the altruistic feel of the game.
My take on the social rankings:
I don't think it adds much to the game, and what it does add is more of a competitive vibe which I don't really feel is very fitting for this game either. I prefer to judge player's experience with the game from their cosmetics and stars on their back rather than a weird badge floating above their heads.
I like being able to see newbies so I can help them out, but honestly I'm confused as to how it works in beta currently now that it's been changed. I can't tell if everyone can see my shepherd badge now or not? But anyway, I wish there was some sort of toggle option to show that I'm willing to help so I can turn it off if I don't want to be approached by people.
if it was an anklet or bracelet it would be cool. the huge badge is a bit of an eyesore. it is already easy to tell who is new and who is experienced
Hmmm honestly I donāt think there be use for the badge system since people would already tell whoās experienced or not through the wing wedges on their capes ( if unlit )
I prefer the old achievement system than this rank (detail thoughts will sent later)
I donāt mind having a badge to signify helpfullness as long as its sort of volunteer based, and you can switch it off if you need to. Sometimes I really am just there to help out new players and having a little badge to signify that could work? But othertimes i just want to spend time with friends or just want to play it solo and admire the scenery.
I think also if it were to be kept, maybe find a smaller/different way to display it. Theres a lot of clutter on the screen with the names, chatboxes, AND the badge overlaying things that could be messy on smaller screens
I donāt really like the social rankings the way they are right nowā it motivates people to help for the wrong reasons instead of being genuinely good. Iād like to show Iām willing to help!! But not like this, rather show my experience through friending someone and showing them to a hard-to-reach star or bringing them to a cool spirit place on my own.
It has the āoh Iām just trying to get my ranking upā vibeā itās competitive, people are judging you over it and instead of āoh I just want to help you, it was hard for meā it turns into āI want to up my rankā
I don't really see much benefit to having the social ranking, there could be other ways to signal that you want to help new players, or even the other way around where the new player signals that they want to be helped. If you were to implement social ranking I'd make the meter completely invisible, so even the player cannot see their own meter, just to prevent any competitiveness. Though i don't really see any issue since theres no cosmetic benefit other than having the shepherd icon above your head.
I donāt mind the ranking too much, but I donāt see how it adds anything to the game. Like others have said you can see if someone else is a veteran or a moth just by their looks and play style. If the rank stays, maybe find a way to place it somewhere else (maybe on the friend menu when you tap someone, or a cosmetic?) and make it optional, so people can decide if they want to toggle it on or off to signal they want to ask for/offer help
Feedback on social ranking:
I like that you can see new players, makes it much easier to distinguish between actual new players who are looking for help with the basics, and those who have just returned from Eden and are looking for stars.
As a suggestion, if you are in the server with a new player, or someone who hasn't collected spirits, could you make the starting position visible to all players, as its hard to explain that you can't see what they can in just emotes.
Maybe extra hearts for keeping a high friendliness ranking per week?
Thats a great point Maelstrom, if something like the shepherd badge is kept, could it toggle a spark or something where the spirits starting positions are? There can be some guesswork when it comes to leading new players around a level and wanting to help them with stars and emotes as the starting positions for emotes you already have are invisible.
I think something like that would be cool as well!! If the system was changed more where you can get perks that help people, Itād be cool
Iāve tried to help someone around wasteland beforeā I didnāt know where most spiritsā specific locations were, though :c
That's actually a huge change in how newly met people interact with each other. I think tgc have an idea of how people interact in the game, the purpose of the social ranking system is to encourage people to do more helpful or kind interactions right?
I think the language-less concept similar to Journey is still an important part for Sky
Thoughts on social ranking system:
First, I think it's good that players cannot know what exact things they need to do to increase the scale.
And I also think it's somewhat good to have no reward when player get the shepherd badge. However, it'll also have less effect on encouraging people to be kind and helpful. (For me I don't care whether i'm not a shepherd because the badge itself is not appealing me.)
Thereās a possibility that one small group of players all get a shepherd badge because theyāre very generous to each other, but theyāve never been nicer to strangers. (This is not a problem if the system have a decent rule to make account for the playerās overall contribution to the whole game society.)
The badge is a bad idea cause it divide players into different categories. Shepherd badge doesn't mean the player is willing to help, also no shepherd badge doesn't mean the player can't help you. Newbie badge doesn't necessary mean this is a new player. (My alt has never get rid of its newbie badge) Currently, the most apparent information the badges on others give me is that, this is a Shepherd, thatās a Newbie. (Notice this is different from telling me the player is helpful or needing help) In before the pattern on cape tells how long has this player actually played the game and interacted with people, I think itās better than a single badge.
To conclude, the social ranking system is a bit pointless in terms of improving the core concept of the game. (It might improves new playersā experience, but Iām not standing for this point in this feedback)
Thank you all for the great feedback! I'll be passing this along to the Dev team as they continue to work on this system. (For anyone who hasn't had a chance to put your thoughts in here yet, there's still plenty of time to add to the discussion
)
I think that the badge could be improved upon. I kinda agree with the others that while the feature has the best intention, it accidentally adds in a bit of competitiveness to the game. To remedy this, I really donāt think we should be able to see any progression bar, or really anything about it. It should also favor acts of kindness done to strangers than to friends. Any eligible player could then be given a notification with the option of becoming a shepherd. I do also agree that this feature should have the option to be turned on or off at will. I do think that people who arenāt your friend should be able to see this, not every new player is going to be your friend. I do also think that it should be some cosmetic on your character, not something thatās sore to the eye, but also not something that other players can miss. (People who havenāt used their candle to light you up should also be able to see this.) Finally, I think a shepherd should indeed be able to see spirits theyāve already collected. It shouldnāt be necessary to know every precise location of every spirit to help out another player.
I love to collect stuff but I donāt like limited :/ like one of rare kin. How are we supposed to collect it if we never have one? This game is pure equivalent and it teach us to be friends not friending with elitist.
Why? That how five Kingdom fall
I find it nice to be distinguished as a shepherd. But also it is too easy to get it. I would prefer it to be harder to earn. And after we earn it i would like to get some shepherd abilities. Like an ability to hold hands with people weāre not friends with (up to 8). Being able to guide a group. To see the spirits locations. So that we can help strangers. That would be fun use of the badge.
Uhh... Is there a way to edit or delete bug reports to resubmit them? I reported that the meditation circles to open the races weren't working, but after submitting the bug report I came back to find that the meditation circles are there now š¤
I think not, at least for now. But it's still a bug if the circle was not working at first, so I think you don't really have to remove that report.
@fresh quiver check #known-issues for information about that: TGC is aware and has posted a work around.
I know, but the work around didn't work lol
Feedback on the social ranking feature:
I personally think this feature is not necessary. It's unnatural to know who's friendly or not with a glance, and I also fear that applying social ranking system may destroy the beauty of casual/spontaneous social interactions and people's genuine kindness which we can experience in Sky now. In addition, encouraging senior players to help newbies may lead to excessive helping, which may spoil the newbies' precious experiences exploring the new, unknown world on their own or with other newbie explorers.
Therefore, if you are going to introduce this feature to live, I think players need a clear explanation on exactly why you are adding this feature. (And if a lot of newbies are complaining there's no one helping them in the game, there seem other more simple and natural ways which may solve it, like adding a "help" chirp or "help" flag.)
And if this feature will be going to live, I also think that Shepherds should be able to switch off the badge for reasons people already stated above, plus the following additional reason: Sky is a mobile app and I know my friends playing this game also when they only have a limited time, like during short breaks or while commuting on a train. Because of their badge, some Shepherds may feel uncomfortable and become reluctant to log in to Sky when they do have a time to complete some daily quests but not enough to help others.
Social ranking feedback ,
The overal idea behind it is good. But Iām afraid it will tear the sky community apart. I think the shepherd badge will turn into a status product and leave some people with a god syndrome. Also I donāt think newbies like to be seen as newbies by a badge. Sure , they arenāt that experienced yet but let them explore for themselves , make friends with other brownies and ask for help when needed. Personally I just put down my table when seeing a new player , make some small talk and ask them if they need help with something. I do that at times when I want too and when Iām not in a hurry , having a shepherd badge above my head will make me a target when I donāt have time to fulfill that role. If tgc insists on introducing the badge , let it come with a toggle option to turn it on or off on players will and make it less flashy. Like stated in above feedback, itās kinda cluttering the screen and polluting the environments scenery.
Iām with the camp that feel it is unnecessary. You can tell who is experienced and who isnāt by their appearance/wedges/playing style. I play through to collect wax and I do this on my own so I can put it down and pick it up as and when I need/want to. Once Iām done, then it is time to socialise and interact with other players. Two completely different play styles, one fast and efficient, the other relaxed. The badge interferes with the view a bit too. Iām just... not a fan.
I've been waiting for days ... but it hasn't been approved yetš
Waiting for early approval ...
I'm getting tired of being alone in the game
Hmmm, me too
I want to play beta version early, my friend is also playing with Sky and waiting for it
Is your friend playing beta?
None, my friend playing IOS version.
Oh, can I add friends from the beta version to the regular version?
No you can't. the regular (live) version and beta are separate
But iOS beta and Android beta are not separate so you can also play with iOS beta players
They said the approval "can take up to a week", so if you are already waiting several days, you'll get it soon I suppose
Thank you for more information!
My head really hurts from this game
@modern lily You might wanna check #beta-discussion-android too, as there are some Android-specific troubles you might face after approval.
Ok.
@torn scarab I understand itās tough to hardly ever find other players when youāre online. Beta in general is just less populated and sometimes you luck out with time zones. But you post about this every day. I donāt know if there is anything anyone here can do to help you. And Iām not sure what you want to gain by posting the same comment again and again.
But what is it you want us to do? Iām sorry, but I donāt understand. Perhaps if you asked for a specific thing instead? Or tried in #beta-looking-for-group ?
I hope you find some people to play with in beta. If anything, it will probably be easier once Android goes live.
The best way to make friends is to help others, and not complain about being lonely all the time.
Read the way others ask for help and the responses they get.
I think the badge system is good, but should be voluntary. Be able to turn it on/ off. Turn it on to let other people know that you can help, turn it off if you don't want to at the time. Implement other badges too (also able to be turned on/off).... I think just having it able to be turned on/off would help allieviate much of the problems people discussed.
- bring back the OwO and other masks (at least let us know if they'll be used for future cosmetics or not)
- let us get the elder questgiver mask (or let us know if it will be tweaked and used/given for a future season)
Shepherd ranking system feedbackānot a fan.
Newbie badges: Theyāre convenient; there have been a few times I was playing with someone who I thought was brand new, but after a while it became apparent they werenāt all that new, just hadnāt gotten a new cape or much for additional cosmetics. Still, like others have said, I can usually tell who the newbies are by their cape color, how many cape stars they have, and by how they play. And not all the newbies want help or know how to play with other people. If I go up to someone who is/seems new, theyāre just as likely as not to ignore me and go off and do their own thing.
Shepherd badges: Donāt like āem. Visually they take up a lot of screen space. They look like police badges, which is weird. It is also hard to find out what they meanātapping on them doesnāt do anything, and I donāt know how many people will tap on the little icon in the one part of their friend constellation screen. As an experienced player, I donāt really need or want to see them. When I have one, I donāt like it being visible to everyone all the time because sometimes I just want to solo play or just play with friends, and Iād be worried people who know what the badge means would come up and expect me to stop and play with them.
It was also weird to me that I got my badge within just a few days after the feature was introduced. The impression that gives me is that itās based off of a few instances or episodes of playing, rather than consistent or reliably helpful behavior.
Bigger concerns: that people will treat the shepherd badge as a status symbol such that helping people becomes a means to an end, rather than helping people for the enjoyment of it. For the same reasons, I would also be strongly against giving a player a reward for having or keeping Shepherd status.
I'd like to add something that was brought up on FB: the possibility that people, or rather trolls, will abuse the system just like some have messed with people by using the table. Sadly, it's not possible to force people to be kind and helpful; it must always come from within the person themselves. A badge doesn't make friends. Someone famous once said: labels are for canned food. š
The ranking system honestly just splits players in groups, and itāll make people feel like someone who has a badge is better than them or is always up to help someone. Though I like the idea of a toggle-able helper badge that lets the starting points of the missing spirits and the missing stars of the person youāre holding glow. I hate wanting to help a friend, not knowing where the starting point of the spirit they need is and just running around an area cluelessly trying to touch the spirit š
a social ranking system seems kind of clunky and implies a hierarchy of kind of... aggressive competitive friendliness? it feels a little overwhelming. I like the idea from a little bit ago of toggling a Shepard badge on or off to show that youāre available and willing to help guide people through areas or show them things. sometimes im just running through the game for candles that day, other times ill be in wasteland or something and im just hanging around because im actively looking for folks to help.
Is it too late to sign up for beta? I donāt see the link so I think Iām out of luck
For iOS? Yes. Keep an eye on #beta-announcements for future invites
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@hybrid wedge thatās what I donāt get about the badge system , me and a few others had it immediately after it was brought in the game.
So I still donāt know what gives you the shepherd status š¤·āāļø
Im very interested in the idea of a helper badge/mode you can turn on that reveals a spirits starting locations (ive recollected stars often enough that i got their positions memorized). Maybe instead of a floating badge icon it could be a visual effect on the character? Sorta like how volunteers at parks will have a nametag on their clothes that signifies theyāre here to help. If its an effect on the player model themselves that could potentially avoid overcluttering the screen with names/symbols/chatboxes that are already there.. (However im a bit stumped as to what that visual effect on the player model could possibly look like š
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Perhaps first you still have to earn the helper mode by certain requirements and then after you can turn it on and off. Iām not a fan of the idea of there being a reward for having this shepherd helper badge though
Regardless of what happens with the shepherd badge thing, I would absolutely love love love to be able to see where spirit starting locations are. Iām lucky enough to have played the big beta reset and the global launch recently enough that I can basically remember where everything is, but thereās only a tiny proportion of players whoāve had that advantage.
Even if its something small! Perhaps a different colored spark like what the seasonal emotes start as? or some sparkles from the ground. maybe the effect that the player gets when theyre using a spell, but its at the spot where the spirit starts?
Same.
There are a few I am uncertain about where they start, but I do remember most of them. But it would make it so much easier to guide someone, if there was a visible starting point even for those of us who already have the spirits.
Any look or feature that is special for shepherd will make this mean becomes the end
Does anyone know of why the vault isnāt included on the story board in the office ???
@vapid drum vault didnāt exist when that story board was made iirc ;0
I thought the vault was there before storm and orbit
And storm and orbit are mentioned in the last 2 boards
this made me actually get up and go look at the storyboard to see what y'all meant >_>
it sure does, lol
What are youse guyses hours? Go home! Its friday!
Oh right, West coast
But still! Go š”
I stay pretty late to avoid traffic, but also come in late for the same reason.
Jenova does seem like a pretty awesome boss
I mean in real life, not in-game
Cause the in-game Jenova boss fight.... š
Still get nightmares
My commute is 1-2 hours each way 
@quaint onyx I must have missed that part in the game.
Good thing FFVII remake is coming soon and you can really get nightmares in HD
A little Friday night nostalgia: remember when the cannon was in Wasteland?
I remember when the cannon was in the old skating rink! :D
I remember the old skating rink
The old skating rink was really hard to stay still
And was more clouds than ice ahdjaks
My friend loved to practice in the cannon for better sound effect until one day I fired him out
and wasnāt the old skating rink a different colour???
I think valley was blue back then
humm i donāt remember the color part
The color was the same I think, but we had uniforms when we raced ^^
And one was blue
another one was red
oh i love that blue cape
and also the blue of the interior of the white cape
I have no recollection of this
when was it?
I do remember Prairie being very different; like there was a central island and it was quite difficult to get there - or perhaps I was just unused to the controls back then.
I wish I had taken more photos in my early beta days.
hellow beta players
just wanna ask, did the game ever had a facepalm emote at any point? I saw someone comment on last week's stream that it was 'removed'
Yep, @dull mauve there used to be this:
It was removed a year ago or so, or something like that. Not even the softlaunch players have it.

@hollow compass When there was still only the skiing race, when we opened the gates at the start players who sat on one side got changed into red clothes and cape and the other side changed into blue clothes and cape. It was when we still competed to see which team got the most butterflies.
I do remember there being a point to collecting the sparks, but I don't remember the teams.
Man i remember both of that! The sparks and the teams and the facepalm emote!
I loved that emote.
Also the team races were real fun to play
I miss those too, cape color change and all
how quickly one forgets
even the text still says it
I feel likt Valley in general hasn't got much attention lately, but perhaps we'll see something new there soon?
i actually think the angry emote is more rude than a facepalm emote
haha, I find the shush emote rude
usually, I would use the face palm about myself
devs did mention wanting to make improvements on the valley race
I think Valley's weakness is that you're locked in a mode that is just transport without a means (other than that one candle at the end)
you can't explore much
and the fact that you have to reset the level to do the other race is also impractical
but then again, in Vault you can't travel backwards either
I donāt know why they took out facepalm (and oh the animation for it was so good), but I suppose it can more easily come across as rude than other emotes. But mostly I used it to refer to myself or annoying situations, like āugh not that bug again.ā I miss it, but a similar sentiment can be conveyed with other emotes. I miss ones like
and
so much more that donāt have any other approximations.
The dancing emote will forever have a special place in my heart~
My sister has it up to lvl 4 :'c
oh, yes, dance ā¤
Remember when dance was the into emote to not have at least 4 levels
That, i did not know
I didnt know you could even upgrade emotes back then oof
Literally i was just so scared of losing them all
it felt so good when you finally locked them in in Eden
Yes, when we could have our emotes locked and go tease the Krill
I still remember my first eden run in limited live..
I lost all my emotes before i could reach the exit and exited the game in tears ;-;
omg, yes trying to reach that temple - the pain when you thought you were there and were knocked down!
i didnt touch the game for a few months after that, but came back around the winter season and recollected alllllll the emotes again
I played Eden in Soft a few times just before Live launch also and boy, was that a pain in the...neck
worth it cause now i have all the winter emotes >:'>
I do think this version is one of the better ones
aw, I wish I had been clever enough to do that too
I just remember being so tired of Winter in beta I didn't want to touch it in Soft also
Oog
Really the only reason i came back was cause it was one of the few things that let me connect more with my sib and some of my friends
... I think Im glad i came back ^^
Are the placeholder masks gonna be used for future seasons
I was legit excited for the season, and then stuff got moved around and taken out
Things will get moved around and changed in beta, heathr. Thatās what beta is for
Maybe reconsider testing the next season so you wonāt be disappointed when things change
I understand youāre upset and I agree with you on disliking some of the changes, but as beta testers we just submit our feedback and move on
TGC will do what they think itās best
wait so what happened with the masks?
There were some different mask designs while the season was in beta, and some things got changed around in the constellations before live
wait really? i guess i just didnāt notice in beta
wait
i remember
like the tear drop mask?
Yes
i see
General rule of thumb for beta: donāt get too attached to anything. š
Beta teaches zen
A very good lesson in impermanence and non-attachment 
Anyone else actually has old video footage of the facepalm emote? :3
This is a Facebook user's idea
Shepherd status feedback.
I believe it is an important idea. Allowing to shape the community by spreading the values and altruistic behaviors on which Sky is based.
The badge itself is useless. It doesnāt give us any shepherd abilities. As a shepherd i would like:
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to be able to offer my hand to any player, regardless if weāre friends or not. Allowing to make a group of people to shepherd
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for other players in the same area to be able to take my hand and to warp to me, especially if they are in trouble
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to be able to talk to people iām holding hands with
And instead of the badge would be great to get an ability to ask creatures of light to follow us by our side (and to stop following as well). Having a shepherd dog, bird or a butterfly is much nicer then just a badge. That can also act as switch on/off of shepherd status (and abilities).
whatās the difference with the beta version??
@spark lance do you mean what is different between Live and beta? Beta is a testing environment for new features and bug fixes.
yes!so did we get something from the beta?
The original pre-launch beta testers got a cape for their work!
No future reward is planned, and all progress made in beta will stay in beta
oww!i understand now thx u so much
No problem!
@pure stag Did you ask permission to post that from the OP? Not that anything of a sensitive nature was said, but seeing as the person is on this server maybe they chose FB for a reason instead of posting here?
I commented on the FB post also, saying that there is unfortunately a risk that there will be people who would abuse a system where we can hold hands with strangers. Having a visible badge that tells people you are trustworthy doesn't necessarily mean you really are.
The friendliness score can be calculated in a way that gives low chances for people who want to abuse the system to get the shepherd badge. Bringing possibility of such abuse close to 0.
Thanks for sharing my fp post here @pure stag
Is the beta office area frozen for anyone else today?
Trying to open the front door brings out candle but doesn't open the door, getting in through the skylight works, but lighting candles does not give wax, and melting plants makes them turn orange but not shrink at all?
Sounds more like a server issue. Perhaps restart the app or check your internet connection?
Restarted, still the same, then went into a different area then back into vault and it worked.
Maybe bugged vault, not sure if I can recreate it, but I'll try
Hello, how can i download the beta?
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Thank you
Iām object to any possible privilege shepherd can get
First, this kind of rights do not come with the corresponding obligations and shouldnāt
Second, āpeople will treat the shepherd [status] as a [possible reward] such that helping people becomes a means to an endā (Nagati)
Howdy! I'm curious if/when the macOS or tvOS beta will be launching? I know they're working on android hard atm, just curious š
cool thanks! I knew macOS had launched but they turned it off at one point. I'll just keep an eye out on the channel. Thanks again!
How can i join beta on ios?
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oh, thanks
@torn scarab do you play on android or ios
Has anyone else been playing on the beta most if not all days and feels as if they are far from completing the lightseeker constellation? Iām pretty sure Iāve gotten all possible candles every day and Iām still far off, I could be mistaken though
they don't give enough days for you to complete the season in beta
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ā@torn scarab do you play on android or iosā
You were pinged about 7 hours ago. You can scroll up to see it.
It's my friend
That was jiro
thanks
could someone with winter season cosmetics take a pic of the backside of the elegant white cape please? I'm doing some cape designs research
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thx
Shoot! I took a screen video of my game problem, but it doesn't show up in the video that I submitted. Is there any way to take it down so I don't get into trouble for filing a report without real proof?
Unfortunately you can't edit, you'd have to resubmit all over again. If you want (and have the time) to add the video, just start a newreport and notate that it's for your previous submission. You'd never be in trouble for forgetting something, you're doing us a great service by taking the time to submit anything at all! 
Thanks
Hello, I have a problem, I got approved for the beta, but ...
@rancid wren bro thanks
U type that and i checked
And i see im accepted too
Finally
It says my phone is not compatible. Detail, I have 4 GB of RAM, Chipset MediaTek MT6750T Processor 4x 1.5 GHz Cortex-A53 + 4x 1.0 GHz Cortex-A53. I Just want to try If doens't run ok
Wich device ?
Alcatel A7
Is there any way to test the game? Just to see if it will run on my phone
If it says your phone isnāt compatible thereās nothing you can do
The dev team is focusing on devices with snapdragon processors with at least android 8.0
@dull mauve i have an image of my friends if you want it
Yeah it's probably lower and has a bad processor
I wonder when they will focus on the processors for Huawei. I have a p smart and the game runs okay and little cause if the random fps drop but I still love it!!!
I played beta from the start and never received my beta cape on live. How do I fix this?
Contact support, but did you play beta after the reset?
What reset?
About a month or two before global launch there was a progress and access wipe and you had to rejoin beta
So those beta players got the beta cape automatically because thatās what they had in the system
But if you contact support they can still help you
I don't think I remember that so maybe not haha. But thanks! I'll do that!
if you were joining beta after July 18th, youāre not eligible for the beta cape in live
They said theyāve been playing since the beginning but didnāt rejoin after the reset
Well apparently I misread āfrom the startā
I downloaded it right when the link to download was posted
@peak jolt which one? There have been a couple times beta links have been posted. The most recent one was a little over a month ago.
@brazen flicker I signed up to join beta back in June. I can't remember when the beta link was sent out after that
when you said the beginning i thought u meant january 2018 :0
if you joined after the reset
to qualify for the cape you had to finish forest and get to valley
did you do that?
Oh haha sorry! No just back in June. Start of the new season? I think. I did finish those. Went through Eden and everything
Contacting Support is your best option, and it's what TGC asked anyone to do if they felt they qualified for the cape. Good luck!
Thank you so much!
Am I the only one who lags hard when playing sky
Doesn't work
How can i play Sky beta on Android?
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Want to see these hints but not sure how to get lost. š the levels are open for exploration, you donāt have to follow a scripted path.
I did see one, there was a prompt as I went into office in vault saying to chirp to see the way forward.
Not sure if they are more regular than before or just triggered in certain areas
Yeah I went into forest, ran into a wind wall at the edge somewhere and got the same message you got. What I donāt like, and what I have never liked, is depending on how far through the level you are, you get pointed to the start sometimes rather than the end. If I got lost, Iād want to know which way to go to progress through the level, not get directed back to the beginning of it. This was a major issue for me in the graveyard swamp in golden wasteland as a newer player. Iād get turned around while in the hiding spaces, wouldnāt know which way to go so would chirp and follow the direction of the symbol, assuming that was the direction the end of the level was. Of course it wasnāt, and Iād end up doing a loop of the map and back at the start of it again. š
Does anyone know where I can get an invite code to join the beta? I have the TestFlight app.
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Youāll need to wait a while yet before more iOS slots are made available @rigid kelp
Ok thanks
np!
Same...
There werenāt enough days to get all the seasonal stuff in beta, right?
Nope. We only had 30-some days I think
I completed 5 spirits. I guess thatās not bad
I missed a few candles from the friend quests, because there werenāt any friends around or not enough people (for 2-player door and holding hands as 4).
I'm seeing some people with a new cloak in Beta, has anyone else noticed this? 80
What does the cloak look like
||A Halloween-themed cloak. It's a black cloak with pointed edges, orange on the inside and has bats for stars instead of diamonds on the back||
I have never heard of that before... can you dm me a picture?
Sure thing
Woah, can I see? @lucid swan
Idk, just curious. It sounds a bit like the flower petal cape, but can't be sure.
it's not... it's ||a new secret thing... let's see how long before it's spoiled||
Ooo, looks like I'll be playing the beta over the weekend then.
I'm really curious on how it looks, but guess I'll figure that out when I find the secret.
Seraph told me, haha
Haha
Well, I saw someone posted how to get it in fb already
I LOVE ||THE NEW THING||
season of darkness
|| SEASON of spoops||
||join the krill||
|| tisss the season to be spoooooky! fala la laaa lalalalaaa||
you shouldn't cold mention users
I didn't. I think...
you mentioned them so they got a notification
np! it's just to be courteous
Thatās the thing about discord, some people (me) donāt mind pings, others do. Welcome to the discord culture
Sigh itās gonna cost $10
Would have killed for a proper Halloween season instead of rain season
But $10 for one cape?
I say discuss it. I've heard one or two people say privately that $10 is a lot. I would not bat an eyelash at $3, but might not pay $10, since I already bought the adventure pass
Since it's in beta, maybe the price is still TBD. (this is in no way an official statement, I have no involvement or influence)
Imo, $10 is a little too much for just a cape, compared to the Founderās cape that also includes 100+ candles, but itās their decision and I wonāt force them to change prices drastically
Itās just... I really wanted proper Halloween stuff. And they gave us rain gear instead
Not paying 10 bucks for it, especially since itās more novelty than anything else
Would have been nice to just give us the Halloween cape for free
As just a cool present
If you threw in some candles maybe it would be worth it
But the starter pack is only 5 dollars
Why 10 for Just a cape
It would have been cool if it were temporarily in the game, tucked away or an easy Easter egg
It could have been part of the seasonal stuff, too. But instead itās $10 just for that? Jesus
That too
I thought maybe the witch cat would give it
Such a shame, I really would like to have this cape
Maybe theyāll change prices who knows
Same. But it really goes against Everything I believe to pay $10 for an in-game accessory
You can have it for free in beta though! 
True
I think the cape should be like 1-2 dollars if itās just a cape tbh
I could see $10 being alright if you had the option to also gift the cape to some friends as well (sorta like how the seasonal pass has that gifting option?)
like a trick or treat, minus the trick
I was fine with the orange cape in the starter pack. Didnāt hesitate with that one, and it was what, $5? Iām not sure yet why the two strike me so differently.
the starter pack also have candles
Itās that subtle change that makes a huge difference
I didnāt buy the starter pack
I only bought seasonal passes
I donāt like paying directly for an accessory
True, Kanpai.
I think the part of the Halloween cape with this price that rubs me the wrong way is that it seems to be in a genre of purchases that emphasize playersā economic differences. The more of these kind of purchases there are, the more you can tell the difference between the haves and the have nots.
At least with the season pass we have the chance to receive it from others
Yes
The founders cape screams āI can buy thisā
The seasonal stuff is different
Youāre paying for a whole 45 days of extra things
The founders cape is there for you to support the devs
It was ridiculously expensive for me when it comes to the founder cape so I didnāt buy it
Yes but it shows who has money to spend $30 on one cape
$40 something dollars in AUD ( which is off my limit when it comes to the itunes cards )
I would only buy the "support the devs" concept once
I spent 30 on the founder cape, that's it, it's even more expensive than Journey on ps4
Rather spend on the group pass than on just cape packs
I wouldn't like to have another $10 for the reason of "support the devs"
Founder is supposed to be kind of like beta cape, beta cape is there for players who supported devs before launch, founders is for ppl who support after
And they make it expensive to not lessen the value of beta cape
$10-15 every 45 days is more than enough support IMO
If there are very few big ticket items like that, thatās one thing. To use a common holiday to sell a cosmetic is different.
I donāt think the bat cape should be 10 dollars at all... and itās weird to only be able to get it in the office
Whatās the reason for that?
True
Yep
Should be like some event or something
Would have been a really nice gift to celebrate Halloween
Especially since they didnāt make a Halloween season
Yeah a nice gift
They donāt want to have a Halloween season so instead you get something to remind you of it
Office = fun place, a bit of its own world compared to the game, so it makes sense to me to put it there
But 10 dollars......
convert that to AUD and itās even more expensive
10 USD => 13-14 AUD
If thereās no candles attached itās super expensive
Yeah but $10 after people just bought the season is kind of gross
The season pass gives you a bunch more cosmetics And candles if you have leftover
Yup
Itās a permanent cape (we assume), so different from the pass in that regard
But then we get people going around Sky with a bat cape ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
The stuff you get from the pass are permanent tho
but with pass i get a lot permanent capes
I wouldnāt have bought a pass if I only got one item from it
Might as well make the worth of the pass and money
The starter pack I bought because it came with around 15 candles
and the founder pack i bought because it came with around 100+ candles
I would like to trick-or-treat at the office and get candy that I can actually eat. But (and this will be an unpopular opinion) I think the bat cape is actually a little too non-Sky in style. It makes sense in the office, but doesn't match the rest of the world. It's even more "cosmetic" than most of the cosmetics to me, if that makes any sense at all.
Yeah I get that
Mhmm i agree
Something thatās directly tied to the real world
Other things are influenced but not explicit
Maybe bc of the Orange?
it's very "halloween costume" which, don't get me wrong that's great, I love halloween and I love making costumes, but it's not modeled after an in-game creature. there are no bats in sky!
The bat cape is so cute tho itās kinda heart breaking 𤧠even the stars are bats
I would krill for a krill cape
I would have liked a transparent spiderweb cape in the same shape
Maybe have a krill mask to accompany the cape?
Yeah, maybe if they threw in some Krill inspo it would fit better in.
Mhmm
Krill mask complete with light
Ooh so it would be like a pack of a mask and the cape?
For 2 dollars
Or they should just give it free for ppl who play during a timeframe (recommended)
I was actually thinking about designing a cape based off of the dark plants. They're very much cape material.
Iām a few messages behind, but about the orange vs. Halloween vs. other capesāall the other capes tie into the story somehow
Oh I didnāt realize the stars are bats! Thatās a nice detail added in but the priceeee
but since it's october, and dev time is limited, and I'm imagining they want this to hit live soon...
Even the orange and season pass ones we pay for. This one just....doesnāt
true...
To me it's a little too plain?
maybe if they could add some spikes
for the cape
just to make a little more krill or something
If we dull the orange and add some embellishments, I think it would be much better.
If it werenāt plain it would be even more out of place to me! XD
true...
for just the cape, think the 2-3USD range would be a much easier sell for your average player.
Well, we have the seasonal capes. And I'm not saying that we make it scream Halloween.
for another day, another promo, I would buy a krill cape for more, especially if it made me drop the little krill-dust as I fly
....
krill dandruff!
pfpfpfpf
Oh I didnāt notice the other comments of krill capes-
can i become a krill
sorta like a particle effect like how when you fly while using a spell?

Iām a slow typer
Yes, a Krill cape would be much better. It's in that spooky mood, and it ties in nicely with the game.
or krill-like
definitely krill cape
lol what the heck is that emote skymii? 
EHEHE good friend of mine made that emote
Agree the orange is a bit much
Itās a krill!
Maybe purple inside would have been better
Krill but with legs
it's like a krill caterpillar 
krilltipillar
Like Count Dracula
i'm fine with the current design
Or the count from Sesame Street Lol
red would be too on the nose. orange is very much a kids' costume. purple is nice
Like a light purple
Orange fits Sky better though
oooo pleasing to the eye
Not the purple from the regular cape thatās usually pink
this whole season is purple stuff Nagati
This season is blue
Last season is Red
here we go
Halloween cape isnāt seasonal tho
lavender? can we make a deal on lavender?
Next season's gonna be yellow? I see a pattern here.
Lol ok
The primary colours!
No one knows what the next season will be, place your bets now!
oooo i could see that happening
Then we move onto secondary colors. :0
Sky: Children of the Color Wheel
Like persona series with their bright primary colours
Ahahaha
soon we run out of colors and we move into the ultra- and infra- spectrum
wheeezeee
eventually ... x-ray, gamma ray
Season of Skeletons
microwave
God itās like Pokemon with their title name choices
Season of Micorwave
Haha, yea.
Iād like to see a season thatās based on pastel-like colors during spring, or something like that
Eggs included
SEASON OF JELLIES
UV light capes
Followed by Season of Radiation Poisoning. Welp, time to get a new batch of kids!
Petal-shaped capes
Like....a dragon?
Season of Breads
this is getting no visible color
In before we get a clear cape.
Season of "The Colour Out of Space" for all you H.P. Lovecraft fans
... Lovecraft killed the conversation? Everyone driven mad by the thought of Cthulhu?
eldritch horrors!
Cthulhu cape when????
drives all other sky children to insanity?
I might be persuaded to put away my deer mask for a Cthulhu or krill mask
Definitely a krill mask for me!
Wait, so when you're in beta, you're getting a beta cape?
No
depends
!betareward
The Beta Cape was a one-time reward for the testing period prior to the iOS global launch. A future reward is not planned.
k
Still canāt believe theyāre asking $10 for a holiday item. Most games do that kind of stuff for free bc itās fun and nice and makes everyone happy
I would also pay more for a permanent Holiday Cape that becomes a new themed item around various holidays and is only permanent in the sense that you have whichever themed item is current
Yeah. I mean, it's extra work put in by the devs, but still. If they wanna sell it, ten is a lot. I'm fine with two dollars, heck I'm more than willing to buy it for two.
Or was it a separate helmet each holiday? lol
Yeah $2 would be a lot more reasonable and it would allow more people to take part
How about a free PEPSI-COLA cape?? genius, right? 
I would pay a million for a pepsi-cola cape.
Iām wondering... did they bite off more than they can chew? Are they not covering their costs with the usual stuff that they have to start offering individual items for sale?
I know that more people would buy it for two. Kinda scare off quite a few people when it's ten for just a cape.
unless the company goes public, I doubt we can do more than speculate in that direction
Iām surprised by how many people bought the founders cape and how many people bought 250 seasonal candles to have the fancy umbrella on day 1 of the season
yeah, I mean on the one hand I didn't expect to see anything like that
I guess if people are willing to spend the money, the devs are just gonna keep adding ridiculous stuff like that
on the other, the official server is where we'll find people who are fanatical about the game and/or the company
the active player in Sky may be less than theyāve announced
Iām still havenāt got the umbrella despite getting the pass on day One ( i just like to take my time )


