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But at least I donāt have to buy it
a cape AND like 150 candles
I would be happy if it was a new NPC that popped up somewhere if you completed Eden
I don't mind there is Easter egg for beta only, as usually I'd love to show it to everyone, don't think there should be anything
purchasable there
I feel like with that cape they basically telling you to buy the game for $30 Itās 90 candles
man i wish i didnt miss the first beta. the one time i wasn't closely following info about this game it was a thing xdd
but i'm also and moreso glad i got to experience the game for the first time with my best friend
I didn't know there was even development for this game before world release
I feel like it is wrong that there are candles to light there
That gives beta players an unfair advantage in speed of progress
Yeah but anyone can get in with beta cape friend, which is like majority of people now
yeah, now that the hole into the office is kinda fixed
Why did they remove the candles at the forest temple? Just curious, Iām so used to my grind in live, I miss those candles.
There was news of "the next game" shortly after Journey, but you had to follow the company for a few years to notice the news
you still might be able to circle round from the telekinesis door, but idk if you actually can
I think they added some more plants in the area after
Yeah? I just think itās hard enough to āmake ends meetā sometimes, every little bit helps. Donāt like it that some of it is gone.
Is sky a follow up? I havenāt played journey, but sorely tempted to buy it and try it out.
Boon, I think they added more to the next area so the total light for that map is the same. I for one like thry removed those candles, you had to light them all individually
there might be a correlation between the end of journey and the beginning of sky
Here are the first details: https://thatgamecompany.com/first-details-announced-next-game-sky/
Not sure I need another game to eat up more of my time though. Iām maxed out with live and beta at the mo. But I think I will get journey for when Iām fed up for one reason or another. š
Oh Iām out, no spoilers for journey plz
No donāt spoil. š
god im a very emotional person, and when i saw the reveal trailer for sky i nearly started crying lol
@rugged kayak I know a video you might like
It either seems to be a "new world" in the same universe, or it could be that the world progressed enough for there to be permanent flying.
The elders might have become powerful beings wielding light as their power source. Eventually the Diamond in Eden fractures and the wonderful light they had became a nuclear disaster, shedding Eden of it's light, giving way to a darkness that brought in the Krill
uh oh
also, my friend and i theorize a lot about how sky and journey are related :P
we compare the battlegrounds(?) in the wasteland to chapter select a lot xdd
i am unsure of the name because we just call it chapter select lol
Imo that seems like the most believable scenario. All the pieces are there.
There's a giant power source.
We learn through cut scenes that our light is absorbed by their small diamonds.
Eden has a giant one where scattered red crystals absorb your light.
The quest is to return "the light" of the stars and join into orbit
Eden was likely a prosperous place
If anything journey feels like sequal to sky
I don't think its really 1:1 comparison
That could totally be it ally 
Do I need to drop £5 on this game then?
the PC version has a lot of sound issues š
sky: the stars were once united, but they divided, and fell. they tried to make a home in the clouds..... if only they had listened..... the darkness came.
so your best bet is the ps3/4 versions
We only have a Xbox 360 or a wii. š š
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there are stars in journey which might be the stars sky refers to, but its a stretch
Whatās wrong with iPad version?
Camera controls
They are very sensitive
And generally reduced visual quality, but it's easy to get over it
Sounds like you have an older ipad
It looks just the same on all my devices
And the beta is less taxing on all of them
Hang on
I recognize that wall
Here's the Apple Keynote announcement from 2017 about Sky
@dire rover I was talking about journey
Oh I see
Thank you! Iām downloading. Going in totally unaware of anything. š„³
oooooooh have fun!!!!
My friend says that canāt she play on the Beta bcs it might risk loosing her data on the actual Sky game. So is that even a thing for Beta?
@frank tapir Nope, that is not a thing that can happen. Beta and live are completely separate, so progress in one doesnāt affect the other.
@junior nimbus have you tried restarting the level or restarting the game?
Sounds like a bug, alas
Whatās the minimum android version compatible with Sky?
Beta is full atm
But u can be checking #beta-announcements if they make any space for new testers
@spark lance
Ok
is the meditation spot not working for anyone else? i tried resetting the level and my game but nothing
This is one of the most recent videos
Showing how it changed drastically in the past 8 months
those cape designs are so coool
Ah @hollow compass congrats. Can other players see your badge? I think we established no, but would like confirmation. š
Those capes!! 
Hey! I saw that we can link a Google account now. Does that mean I can play on Android when it's released?
I haven't met any friends or strangers in game after I updated the beta app 4 hours ago, and I can not burn the darkness plant. Anyone else or only meļ¼
Restart the game
@wraith yacht heyy where are u linking ur Google acc!??
yeah, I linked my account to google today.
I don't have an android build yet but that looks promising
Very
Super excited, I thought I would have to buy an iPad to continue playing! I don't really have one anymore haha
well you have to link from an ios device at least, I'm assuming, if yo uwant to keep progress. I'm hoping that's what it's for at any rate
Wait, will we be able to keep data from iOS sky when Android sky comes out?
hopefully
Hey quick question, is it possible to do anything with the beta friend, your first friend
Should I link a picture?
@orchid nexus ? Got any info?
not sure what you mean. NPC who does friend tutorial?
Any idea when the next update for the Android beta rolls out? The beta I downloaded just crashes after the TGC logo, and hopefully I don't think this isn't gonna support my device
We donāt know, @vague fable. Theyāre pushed when theyāre ready.
has anyone managed to meditate in valley today? Ive gone back 3 times and its still not working for me...
it worked for me. I think the issue is if another player activates it before you, it's inactive. try leaving the area for 30 seconds or so, and try to be the first player to the shrine.
thanks! I'll try it again š
Apparently the Android beta is already out @vague fable
Some people have received the invite to join
abhi has the beta, but wants an update that doesn't crash. we don't have info on updates yet, and generally not until they actually happen.
Ohh
Odd, a friend of mine says that theyāre playing it right now
Iāll double check
No clue <.<
But the betas are not always perfect and often receive updates, so I hope that the game works on your device soon!
@dire rover I have restarted the game several times and it didn't help
For the initial build I expect many inconsistencies between devices.
Yea
Wow at first i thought my device ain't gonna support it
Anyone on beta that wants to do daylight prairie with me to do the 8 member spirit quest?
Woops wrong chat group sorry
@pallid badger anyone else can see it
@orchid nexus is the tutorial NPC still a thing, though?
I don't remember. I was just confused by the question
I have an Nvidia Shield to test on
It's not the fastest, but it has a GPU
Will be interesting to see. The screen is terrible though. And the touch panel as well is horrible. The screen isn't laminated
Also the FLUTE sounds HORRIBLE
As soon as you hit the high notes it's like it died
And it's really quiet
Looks like another change to seasonal cape
Seasonal 1: same design, glowy
Seasonal 2: No glowy tassels, White lines not apparent like other cape
@rich wolf you mean since previous patch?
There was an Android update like an hour ago
This is so confusing. I almost wish we could be assigned colours or symbols, so one would know who is talking about iOS and Android version.
Or two channels
I'm still trying to have another channel added. it's still morning in California.
Hi All, glad to be in the Android Beta, hopefully a quick question:
after launching and getting the thatgamecompany splashscreen I get a "crash to desktop" or the Android equivalent. anyone know where the crash logs go so I can provide more info?
cool, I'll update my Android SDK for this
You used to be able to do it on phone, but they changed it so that apps can only access their own syslog from the device for security reasons, so you have to use adb
anyone need help getting the blue cape
The crashlogs are hopefully sent with crashes, but don't quote me.
@orchid nexus this is at startup, so I'm not sure if its even established itself at that point
does anyone know how to get to the iss ?
i heard it's possible
can't find anything about it
it's in the secret beta map
Right, I'm not suggesting that it absolutely is sending. I know if I were developing an app I'd put in some blocking for when debug console is attached. I know it's possible to detect adb, and that's the first place script-kiddies will go...
@frozen stream the office has rotating content. that might not come back for several days
what does that mean
meaning each day it's something different
everyday a new day at the office!
Oh I'm suggesting using adb to get postmortem logs, the app isn't even running
The chat works!
@tawny osprey looks like
adb logcat SKY:v *:s > log.txt
gives pretty good output
SKY on verbose, everything else silent
iOS suddenly seems so..simple š¶
it's not simple, I guarantee. it's just more tightly controlled.
still some kind of unix under the hood
So
I was thinking about the length of this testing period. In the Twitch stream they said about 2 weeks between seasons, which would mean testing will overlap the launch of the new season. Or do you think the testing period will end earlier?
trouble is if it does crash on iOS, you probably can't get much out of it
do QRs work between android and android? š
i think the new season will come out once all the major bugs on beta are ironed out, it's not like they gave an exact date or anything
they gave an estimate
I thought it would work because on the live, Jenova said that holding the hands with an android player
Felt like such a huge step
ah, well I bet it matters which side creates the QR too. If the android app is not generating them correctly, then might might work the other way, with android player accepting iOS invite.
And if android just isn't working with invites yet, that would also explain it.
Perhaps
@burnt finch and there are a lot of bugs at the moment...
i know š
Hold on about the android iOS qrs not working, double checking rn
I searched and didn't see anything, but apologies if I'm asking something that was covered: I got a Sky invite to the Android beta, but my email that I gave isn't my Google Account that I'd prefer to use. Is it possible to switch that?
not sure, but I had a slightly different problem that I'm awaiting an answer on: the address I gave has no associated google account. I tried to click the invite, and it took me to the group and said I don't have permission. I added the email the invite was sent to as an alt on the account and tried clicking the invite again but same result. possibly my invite is already "used" at this point.
I used the potion but it turned me the wrong size... wat do
Yeah @orchid nexus, that seems like a similar issue, or at least should have a similar remedy.
I think I will try to email them directly.
I'm sorry because I'm sure that the question was already asked but will we able to play from iOS with Android ? Thanks
My understanding is that crossplay is planned, but not available yet with the Android beta. (In other words, to my knowledge it doesn't even talk to iOS beta.)
Ok thanks
I think it does talk to the iOS beta
Ah interesting!
If you have the beta, you still have to pay for the seasonal pass?
nope ! the seasonal pass in Beta for free !
U do gotta pay for it in live
@rich wolf how did u get the potion?
I need to know š
@livid ice yes
Yeah I know lol I was saying ,do u know by any chance how do I get the potion to change sizes @lusty light
Itās a random blessing
"It can mess up your day or make it the best, completely random"
Iāve just observed a player using their table to open a two player door in prairie. š¤
The doors will open if there is someone or something behind them
Security measure to ensure players don't get trapped
This is why the table gets nerfed, but players are sneaky and obviously try to hide that they use it to break the game
Hey.......anyone have a hint on where the seasonal spirit in the wasteland is?
On the ship
Thank you
Head to the right after the first krill.
@livid ice Uhuh
Is the android beta out? I keep seeing people talk about it but none of them are super clear
Figured they would have announced it here with a link if it was out
it does exist. invites are being generated manually, so the time to receive an invite, if you're on the mailing list, may vary considerably.
yes
Hm how can they tell who is android and who isnt?
Nice
Is android beta crossplayable with ios beta or no? Ping me if you know. Im not going to be by my phone for a bit
It isn't entirely clear if they are crossplay or not
If any of my android friends end up getting beta I'll try test it out?
hmmm seem like my android friend didnāt get to the mailing list
offft my fault i didnāt tell them about the newsletter
despite having them pre registered
I'm on android beta and I feel like I've been seeing a lot of people
So I'd be a bit surprised if they were all android
In the play store it still says 100+ downloads, so I'm guessing there are less than 1000 people on android beta
mhmm as expect my friend, and yes theyāre probably all androids or something !! So welcome to Beta Community!
hmm
actually
Yall Android Beta Users, Welcome to Sky!
I saw at least one with what looked like the beta cape, which should be impossible on Android
what's the highest number of wedges you've seen ?
oh eeyah
6 or 7
Which is definitely doable so far (I'm up to 5)
But I haven't been looking that closesly
hmmm idk if cross play should happen rn but if not then
something not right
unless itās one of us IOS users who just power run through the game XD
in Android
@leaden spruce to answer your question from the other channel: if you donāt have chat unlocked with someone, then their text will only appear as ā.......ā. You have to unlock the chat function with them in the friend tree to see what theyāre saying. You can also sit with them at a chat bench or at the chat table.
Is the android beta testing the same stuff that we are for iOS or are they behind us? Like will they start with last season?
Interesting, so then they wonāt ever have access to the gratitude emotes or items?
so going straight to the new season
Maybe theyāll offer a pack similar to the one they had for the winter hair/piano?
A pack would work to catch them up, I donāt even know what they would charge for a full seasons worth of emotes and/or cosmetics
Unless they just had like selected stuff and not the full seasonās worth of stuff
Yeah, me neither. The other option that comes to mind would be repeating the season once sky has been released live for all platforms.
But Iām pretty sure they said they wouldnāt repeat seasons
Yeah I heard that too
Which is probably good, seems like the amount playing is down since the last season ended. A repeat season would similarly not give people a reason to log in
Im sure they have an idea of which items were most popular. So they could release those if they choose to do a pack but not include 100% of the seasonās content
Yeah, I know some people would like another chance at the seasonal stuff, but I think the majority would find it less than appealing
definitely the red fox mask, dragon mask and the white .... weasel ????
I don't know, it's probably not the end of the world
The white fluffy cape was really in demand, too
Yeah thatās a good cape
Even though the other one is less common due to the season pass being needed I prefer the white fluff
Yeah, having a cape with such a different texture is neat. I love all the different colors, but new textures/shapes are a lot of fun, too
how can we see what ios version we have? š
If you go to settings
i'm really hoping we can get a holiday event that runs parallel to a season
maybe it gives 1-3 holiday cosmetic items
really i just want my toon to have a santa hat lol
Hmm, on Android beta I'm getting a very hard crash in the valley of triumph when entering the first race track
All the other crashes if I wait long enough (like minutes) it works
4th tries the charm XD
My friend has an Android but they are confused about getting into beta, what do they need to do to join?
@thick flax They need to subscribe to the newsletter and have android selected in the list of betas they are interested in. It looks like they are sending out invites once a day or so, but the number isn't very large
In the Golden Wasteland social area, where is the stone for the hands on hips spirit? I collected it in Valley of Triumph, and finished the stage, but I don't see a blue ghost for it so I can't access it's constellation (note I'm on the Android beta)
"Android selected in the list of betas they are interested in" meaning? š¤
is there any quota for the iPhone beta?
@thick flax you can read #beta-announcements to find out how to get on the mailing list for the Android invites.
I wanted to warn that the official version is giving an error, I try to join with a friend and the game closes automatically
@surreal jasper currently 5000 people.
Can you move all the crabs someplace else
AND THEN do the spirit?
@livid ice idk it just appeared.... made me smaller, wanted taller
The beta servers seem a lot less populated - Iāve been running around large sections without seeing any other children, especially the vault.
Hey why do two of the seasonal capes look almost identical?
(Not to mention the masks)
@rich wolf do you need help ? Donāt do the spirit alone. Iāve got help with 4-5 people, we just endured the attack form crabs since we are all together to recharge
I think Iām far more excited about the emotes this season than any of the cosmetics
Now I know why they called the last season the season of gratitude. I wasnāt grateful enough how easy it was to collect the spirit compared to this season šš
does anyone have a full chart of emotes and cosmetics for the new season?
@blazing sail one glows
@junior nimbus ayyyy
Speaking of android, seeing as TGC is writing their own code for Sky; jenova mentioned on stream how much of a moment it was when they first connected an Android device with an Apple device in the game
Imagine how that must have felt
itās like the worlds has collided into supernovas
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Small question for those in the Android beta. Does anybody else have the problem of the world being kinda void of other players? I have a very good internet connection, and I barely ever see anyone.
I don't have this issue with the iOS beta.
The android beta is very small right now.
Figured. I just thought Iād maybe be able to see people from the iOS beta. Thatās fine, Iāll wait to get multiplayer emotes when it becomes larger.
Likely the beta is completely separate to lessen the crossplay bugs.
));
I mean, Iām able to have my iOS account play with my Android one, but for the most part.. probably. Yāknow, I just got a dumb idea, I should get the green cape to signify Iām an Android player.
Just in case nobody noticed, we now have a beta chat for android peeps #beta-discussion-android
I dont know if this is the right place to talk about this but i recently joined the android beta testing and got the invite and the access link but the the link doesnt work cause it kept saying item not found. Can anybody tell why this is happening, please?
You might need to download a separate app? I know for ios, they had us download Testflight
I was told that if you use a growth spell your height resets after going to eden? Is this true or?
Your height resets then and there
Idea: Meditation spot in Eden
Always the same question
"Do ya fear death"
- Davy Jones, Pirates of The Caribbean
Just paraphrasing but along the lines of āWhat did you learn on your journey?ā
āWhat is the most important lesson youāve learned?ā
It would be in the last part of Eden not the first part
where would the spot be tho
Somewhere near the gate , they have a bench and rating square nearby too
And maybe ā what kind of person would you want to be if you could have a second life?ā Choose your new height
In-chat-petition to change
#beta-discussion to #ios-beta-discussion
and
#beta-discussion-android to #android-beta-discussion
I recommended not doing that. Here's why: general discussion about beta involves everyone testing. Since iOS is a closed system, there's not much to talk about with regard to differences between devices, while in the android universe we expect a lot of chat to be about the differences between hardware and even ROMs. It might seem imbalanced at first, but a lot of the chat about android so far in this channel has been about hardware more than the game. If we find that a lot of iOS-specific chat is cluttering this channel, we can always rethink it.
Where do people find the resize spell? :00
i think u can only buy them from the seasonal spirits? i might be wrong so dont quote me on it, but thats where i got mine
Ohhh
Ty !!
Would doing a height spell and then wearing chibi mask remove the effects of it? I heard chibi mask resets your height when you put it on (w/o spell)
We are beta testers, @woeful dawn. Trying it yourself is the best way to find out. ;)
Valid! Iāll have to check it out š
I haven't gotten the spells yet (or the chibi mask for that matter XD) so I'm curious to find out too
can someone help me with the seasonal spirit in the vault , somehow the spirit keeps falling down
sameeeeee
it's very frustrating
havenāt gotten the chibi spells yet
@frozen stream a good place to ask for someone to help with that quest is in the #beta-looking-for-group channel. There's probably others in there looking for the same thing.
@arctic pecan Haven't gotten chibi spells or haven't gotten the random height reset spell?
nooope
._. heard the height reset spell from my homie
who wasnāt too pleased with been slightly small
XD was called big sis after that
so you've gotten chibi spells though, yes?
Just wanted to make sure I understood what you meant above
Here have some chibiness: 
šš āØthank u!!
If only the chibi spell was shareable like anti-gravity and fast charge. We could make a whole group smol.
If youāre referring to the pre-registration link itās publicly available š
We need an āautomatically get all the wax from all the levelsā option xD
If youāre referring to the Beta for Android, I donāt believe thereās anything as of yet, @exotic needle
Isnt that the link for pre registering
@exotic needle
Which i already did
I mentioned the wrong one xD
No thereās Android players already
At least thatās what Iāve been reading
@exotic needle Android invites began going out last Friday. But to talk more about the android beta, there's a shiny new #beta-discussion-android channel to use! 
Thanks
Fancy schmancy! Thanks for the clarification, @hybrid wedge āØ
:v
Yāknow Iād like to be playing right now but I have work to do (sad noises)
If we preregistered for Android will we receive an email as an invite?
@crisp plinth theyāre being sent to the email you subscribed to the newsletter with
Ok. I signed up for the newsletter, so Iām good! Thank you!
@warm timber You have to have somebody with the old beta cape take you to the secret area, and you can buy it (for cash)
In the beta itās free though, Iām guessing it wonāt transfer though since you donāt have to pay here
Note that the new beta cape can also be used to access the secret area
Thatās why benji keeps offering to show me
New beta cape..?
The beta cape with the black inside
Ah
There is a new secret area that requires either the beta cape or the "black" beta cape to access. Inside you can buy the black beta cape, so if you don't have the normal beta cape, the only way in is with a friend (until you buy, with money, the black beta cape)
@tawny osprey not with money. Everything is free in beta.
The cape with black lining is the founders cape, not the beta cape.
or i call it 30 bucks cape
Question for yāall who know more about beta than I: where are we supposed to put beta-related suggestions? In the suggestion channel, but spoiler tag them? Beta bug reports (even though itās not really a bug)? Or are we not supposed to do that until stuff goes live?
Oh! in the suggestion with the spoiler tags
just make sure to inform everyone that what youāre tagging is Beta Spoiler
Ok! Thank you!
Yeah, @brazen flicker I'd say that's a good place for them, with labeled spoiler tags.
Is there like a āhow to be a good beta testerā guide somewhere that has information like that? It might be helpful for new testers who arenāt quite sure how things work yet š¤
Thanks Nagati!
Is there like a āhow to be a good beta testerā guide somewhere that has information like that?
No, there isn't. There wasn't as much of a need to separate beta and live before the global launch, but this could be something to consider. In the meantime, we can redirect people there until we're told another place would be better. 
The randomizer named a new friend Anal and I wanted to unlock chat with them so I could tell them and get a proper name for them. It wonāt let me join. š
Omg noooo lol
That is. Good lord
@blazing sail You can generate another random name to people from the friend constellations.
I know but I thought it was funny and just wanted to tell them
I think maybe they havenāt updated
I read that maybe tgc changed next seasonās capes from their pretty designs? What do they look like now?
They didnāt change the cape designs
@hybrid wedge I tried to re-random a name once and it was having a hard time. Only would let me type it in manually
Oh good!
I think they didn't change the design per-se but more like design elements. Brighter whites, etc.
Q: is the height change really permenant?
until your next reborn?
It should be permanent
They talked about it in the last stream
Rebirth doesnt affect your height normally, so it shouldnt here
I was trying to help someone get past the cape gate in Vault by immediately friending then at first sight, they teleported away
They mustāve thought I was crazy or something lol
ābecome my friendā
but I wanted to be taller and it made me shorter
Anyone know where the seasonal candles are for today?
In the same level as the spirit is beside to
Is Always like that @undone prism
And thereās some in the vault I think
@rich wolf Its random
Oh well xD
I mean
What is the point of a chibi mask now?
If u can change size with a spell ?
The chibi mask makes you way smaller than the bounds of a sky kidās normal height
You couldnāt roll a character that small if you tried
be real tall and then just use the chibi mask if you want to be short
Nono xD my friend is the exact same height as a chibi
@livid ice o-o
Is that a glitch or does the potion have altered height ranges? huh
omg that just gave me an idea
U can be as short as a chibi or as big as double regular size I think
Are any of yāall active in the fb beta group? Are people...supposed to tag tgc employees for bug reports? I know pinging tgc peeps here without a good reason is a huge no-no.
@livid ice 0_0
casts Chibi on krill
@brazen flicker I wouldnt recommend it
Use the channels here, the report feature on TestFlight or the feedback stuff in-game
I wasnāt planning to, personally. I just keep seeing this one guy do it.
That way it can be properly monitored and sorted by other people
then we get the inverse.... embiggen
@brazen flicker Heās a naughty sky kid
casts embiggen on crab
makes krab skykid sized
And for relatively small bugs. So I thought maybe I was just ignorant of fb etiquette lol
I need a spell that turns me into a krill and make the krills be scared of me :āv
@brazen flicker Id say in most places thatās bad etiquette unless otherwise stated
a spell like that would be lots of fun
Thatās what I thought. Thanks @stoic badger š
sky kid running through the wasteland yelling "LOOK AT ME I'm a Target"
for you doctor who fans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQIgXdLdmiU
Hahahaha
I was thinking that they would make wasteland better if u could have a chance to save that poor manta ray
Piping in--The admin account on the FB beta group has said multiple times that tagging them isn't necessary (for one, TGC reads everything and logs all the reports there, so it's redundant to say the least). Some people have set posting habits though.
Thanks Nagati! I saw multiple posts tagging the customer service guy at tgc, and felt bad for him š©
Discord can be hard to keep up with sometimes, but I'll take it over Facebook any day
Omg same. The fb and Reddit communities seem to be so....cranky.
True
I really love the group we have here on discord.
Facebook algorithms seem to be programmed to highlight arguments and discontent. It can be hard for other voices to be heard.
Itās difficult to manage any large group, but Iāve been really impressed with how well this one is run, and how kind most of the members are
I find it easier to see more people's posts on Discord. (Or maybe I'm just on here too much š )
you and me both
hey does anyone have a good path for the forest seasonal spirit? (after getting to the tree part) I keep timing out with my path, which involves backtracking to the mushrooms on the wall. I want to try doing the mushrooms on the tree but the safe spots only really hold one person so I can't do it with people around
Get an umbrella
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I just kind of winged it, honestly. I can try to come help you scout out covered spots if you want, @limber falcon
Sometimes itās impossible to finish it with people around cause theyāre dragging each other back
You need to have a very nice timing to finish it
I helped a random person do it today if you still need it @limber falcon
Umbrella doesnāt work on the seasonal forest spirit, unfortunately
Good to know
When will the new season come out?
depending how things going in Beta
Iām already saving hearts for the umbrella in live
gonna get the big seasonal one since i have the regular here
It costs hearts?
well for the regular one from the || fish call spirit yes ||
Oh yeah duh
|| 25 hearts ||
Iām still thinking about the founder pack, if they make it to live
I have 19 hearts and idk if ill be able to get the valley elder hairs if the new season is next week
donāt worry the elder hairs donāt cost much
( well unless youāre getting the Valley that will be four hearts, two hearts for the spiky and the other hair, two hearts )
Is there going to be new wings in the next season?
Yeah new capes!
New capes I can get without the season pass tho? Because im broke
Thereās one
Which
Thereās only one... ? Dose anyone have a picture of it by any chance?
trying to get i now, Iāll send it to screenshots channel
Yeah right
youāre welcome Irene !
Ahh wait one more question @arctic pecan do you mind telling me how much it is...??š
Oh itās fine tyyy
Iām pretty sure itās 20 seasonal candles
Oh okay ty
Wait when is the season coming out
It's been like
A week right
Think so yeah
Two days
should be, at least from what we heard
It should start at the 16th if weāre going by that welcome message saying the season ended on the 2nd
Ayyy
@rich summit @brazen flicker thanks! my friend got us through it though, it's really unforgiving : (
It is! Iām glad you got it! š
||Light crown|| is still hack right?
it could still be possibly white hat ones
Yes @rustic imp
Ok ty
Yw š
you guys have heard of white hats right?
what are they?
i guess technically but theres no legit way to obtain it as of now
there was a part in beta to look into ways of hacks into the game
good hackers are like beta testers... they can tell the company
"this is a hack" or "this is not a hack" so the company can identify hackers easier
ahh
Once you go to the easter egg area, how do you go back to regular tower?
You can āresetā a level by entering a different level first.
So go home, then go through one of the gates (like wasteland), then go back home.
Next time you enter vault, it should start you at the beginning š
Oh cool, that was super not clear
I am now 100% sure that Android and iOS beta are crossplay as well XD
So there are two beta capes now?
I only have the white interior one. How do you get the black?
@distant meteor In the office, theres a separate shop you can open (tapping the shop icon in the top-right) that lets you buy the founders pack
why does that light crown even exist in the game if it's not obtainable?
does it have any sort of backstory, like it was an old removed cosmetic or something?
I don't know if this should go here, in beta discussion, or somewhere else? I guess I'll post it both here and in beta?
Note for players avoiding spoilers: This contains MAJOR SPOILERS.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HQ7XsXUXWgP58u5AtZI2ES7M13YWwo5mMOFlUR_2VaM/edit?usp=sharing
Always many good points, @main ivy .
This your personal feedback notes @main ivy ?
Yes
thank you to whoever helped me get the wasteland spirit - I wouldnāt have found the way up to the deck of the boat and would have definitely continued going for a normal spirit 3/4 of the way through if it wasnāt for you!
@golden ingot for any spirit quest walk, you can make a call to see where the next point is
Yeah, but I didnāt know the path up and I had an unclaimed ānormalā spirit show up for the last chunk which threw me off
someone else must have activated it while you were in the same area - how confusing!!
I thought I didnāt need to call since I saw the normal spirit right there š
No! I ran toward it myself, thinking it was the end š
well, the other spirit wouldn't show up unless someone activated it
I walked into it; both canāt be activated at the same time?
and that spirit's starting point is on the side of the ship where you wouldn't have been moving with the seasonal spirit anyway
Iām an idiot š
but it's interesting to hear that they can both be activated and visible at the same time
ShiraCheshire, thank you for sharing. You had some really well thought-out points š
How do you go to that secret area ?
you must sacrifice a crab at the altar of krills
but seriously ||wear the beta cape or find a friend who has one||
the entrance is ||in Vault||
@modern lava if you need help, Iām online rn and can take you š
I finally got the shepherd badge! Idk how though š
Is there anyone that have sky on Android?
Solid feedback @main ivy , and iām glad iām not the only one that feels like the idea of dragging friends to an āexclusiveā purchase room feels very skeezy.
Ive not been really sure where to put feedback in a place where it feels like itll get somewhere but my main criticism of the sheets is that the UI design for guiding players between keys makes it quite hard to infer timing, and the arc between keys doesnāt give you enough time to make it happen if you cant decipher the āzoom inā animation and what order its asking you to hit the keys in. Elite Beat Agents has a similar design problem and it far more clearly telegraphs timing and key order.
Oh also, from what i noticed the new level content increased the download size by just under 20MB which isnāt much at all.
@orchid sun yes! You can check out our shiny new #beta-discussion-android channel!
@stoic badger I was told we can post in the suggestions channel as long as we spoiler tag it and say itās for beta stuff
Ok
The office spirits have started repeating, so theres 7 unique spirits/things
Ty!
@brazen flicker You can, but thereās soooooo much stuff that i donāt want to deep dive into a specific thing if itās just going to get buried.
Ah, gotcha. That makes sense
Whoever put all the crabs into the broken temple where the meditation spot is.... you suck.
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oof,,
They really put some effort into it, though lol I think there were only one or two crabs left outside of the temple š
For real! I think I saw two players working together. Messed up meditation for me and a couple other players who were coming up right as they ran away from the scene of the crime
must've been fustrating but that kinda sounds hilarious at the same time
Yeah. It was well played
so the height potion gives you a random height, huh?
apparently
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I was told I have the shepherd badge by two friends, but when I open the thing in my constellation Iām not there yet
@chilly yacht thereās a #beta-discussion-android
Ah ok
Wait we have badges now?
But I not
Apparently, thereās a āfriendliness levelā now
Uhhh
I have no idea what it means but when the meter is full you get a badge haha
What even
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
I think itās supposed to show that youāre willing to help out other players?
Probably, but how do they measure that??
Yeah but in that case you should be able to equip it to yourself not earn it
Ah, itās not a badge on your character, itās more like a symbol above your name
What if you managed to unlock it but donāt really like helping people with stuff or the other way around. You love helping but you donāt get on often so you donāt interact much
People are going to swarm the helper people oof
Yeah. I listed a toggle option in the suggestions channel.
As well as the ability to opt in/out of the shepherd badge. I personally like the idea of being able to let people know I can help, but I totally understand why some people would feel uncomfortable with the rating system.
That would be nice. Like if you usually do help people but youāre having a bad day and just want some you time
Exactly! Sometimes you just wanna go solo, or youāre trying to meet up with a friend or whatever. Rushing to complete dailies before reset.
There are lots of reasons why it would be nice to be able to turn it on and off
I definitely donāt like the idea of a ranking system. It adds a competitive aspect to a non competitive game. Im fine with being able to choose an icon that tells people our playstyle and if we want to help though
Itās not really a ranking, per se. Itās just a bar that fills up until you āobtainā the badge.
Yeah but thatās basically ranking. People will see people with certain badges as better players than everyone else
And I kind of get the point of that- there must be some algorithm tgc came up with to try and filter out who likes playing with others and being helpful and who likes it solo
But I think adding something that makes it volunteer-based would make everyone more comfortable
Goodnight!
Night!
New update:
- improved the sky account linking panel
- another attempt to fix game join/leave/disconnect crashes
- other fixes and improvements
Weird time, i hope their engneers arent crunchin. Also kinda amusing to see them do whack a mole on the friend connection issues.
āOther fixes and improvementsā
A company that knows how to seduce its players with what we want the most 
PATCH MYSTERIES TO SOLVE
Oh also, make sure yāall dont post your Sky ID/recovery cpde anywhere
i like how eventually they just stopped using proper punctuation
not that i can talk
I think different people write them, some are well punctuated and some arent
Feels like a notepad copy paste.
āSo whatās the gist of what we are putting in the next beta patch?ā
āThe uh.. other fixes you told us to do with the .. thing.. and those improvements we were working over over the weekendā
āGot it, okay posted whatās for lunchā
My battery feels a lot faster after this update
Lol @ āanother attempt ā
does beta progress carry on to the next beta (if there still is one?)
Not always...weāve had a few resets since it began.
If they need to test things that everyone has already unlocked, then resets are inevitable.
Please-please-please revert home button changes!
Itās impossible to go home in case if you are outside the map or in the air or clouds
Agreed. Itās not a huge ask.
Today's office spirit like pizza.
The beta app vanished from TestFlight O_O
@drowsy moon you should write your suggestions in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived! Make sure to spoiler tag them as beta spoilers though
!textspoiler
To spoiler tag text, type || on either side of your text ||like this||, or (app) highlight text and select āmark as spoilerā
The home button changes are the only thing so far to me in the beta that really feel like a step back and completely misguided.
Re: Above. I usually like to play with friends, but sometimes I just need to go on and get something done quickly so I can get off. It really is weird to measure that kind of behavior.
Iām jumping in as another who hates the home button changes. I donāt dare explore dangerous areas alone when my time is limited because I feel Iāll be stuck there until I basically clear the level or find an āapproved spotā. And the dangerous areas are the areas I really want to take my time to explore on my own. Iāve already explored the safe areas as a newbie.
It really is one of those things that didnāt need fixing. Especially the time it takes now. It used to be like half a second. Now itās 5 seconds.
Additionally, you have to be on the ground to even activate it
Wait a sec, are you actually the guy that handles the Sky page on AppUnwrapper?
I posted in suggestions about it. Not sure what else to do.
We just sit and hope that TGC will answer our prayers
What did they change to the home button?
Why change things that no one complained about?
In live, when you teleport to home through the menu, itās basically instant
Yup
In beta, it takes a few seconds after hitting the button to actually teleport
Also, you canāt tele home in midair
And you cant teleport home in the rain either, but I'm not sure if that's a glitch or not
š¢
I had to tp home because krills caught me in mid air and had no time to land or find hinding spot
Itās going to be difficult
Omg I havenāt looked for the candles in the wasteland yet and Iām terrified that theyāre gonna be in the graveyard ššš
Basic, I am, but not a guy. š
Sorry, thatās a habit of mine
No worries
Oh wait
Makes more sense itās by the ship
Iāll go check there
I just really hate the graveyard
Iām happy skipping it if Iām alone and thereās no quests there
I think most of us do lol
Lol
No but like I freeze
Iām honestly not sure how I managed to do it my first time
Ahah I had no idea what was happening
I have it on video and watching it I think I had less fear then than I do now lol
I just stood there while they killed me
I mean, I got hit once bc I didnāt know to be afraid. But after that, I somehow ended up leading another person out
I even tried doing the seasonal without realizing what I was doing
But abandoned it
I helped someone on my first time lol. I was surprised they were trusting me.
More experienced one with the guts to go through the area lol
I love that idea of helping random people and building connections that way
In hindsight, I wondered if they were looking for help with the seasonal and I was too oblivious
Was funny watching the video weeks later
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Bc everything was a blur when it was happening
I didnāt even know an entrance from an exit
I think I ran back and forth like 10 times
It takes a while to understand a new game lol
Tbh, I still struggle with flight even now
The clouds between valley and wasteland really threw me for a loop. I didnāt know where I was supposed to be going
You can get lost in there
I feel like that might not be the best for new players. I actually quit after that in the beta and waited for the live version
Valley -> Wasteland is the worst
And I obviously never take that route now
I got lost when I was passing through it for this beta
Oof
I was flying in circles and back towards valley without realising ahah
Thereās too many holes and possible paths. And then the wind turns you around and you get even more lost
Yup same
I spent 15 minutes hurtling through clouds and got annoyed when I saw Valley again
I got so fruestrayed
Frustrated
Itās funny that I quit before seeing the wasteland
Amazing š
So it was a real shocker when I played live
I was already mad at the Forest then
Now I love the forest, but starting out with almost no wings... ugh
Low wings in Forest is a different type of hell
I didnāt have any friends at the start of this beta ć ć
Now there are umbrellas
You just gotta run to the lanterns!
Yes!
Jump running makes you fast
Like, you go from happy-go-lucky nothing-can-harm-me prairie and then all of a sudden youāre completely useless
Before the water drains you too lol
I didnāt have friends in the last beta
Then you just ||die in eden||
The jellyfish jump also seemed impossible with only like 3 stars/wedges
Takes a lot of patience
Especially when you just come off live with your 9 wing account
Gotta find those star kids!
Yea!
Yeah. I like that part of pacing. Forest - there are threats, valley - things are fun again, wasteland - OMG!
I think they should add more lanterns in wasteland
Nahhh it's supposed to be desolate and harder
Awww
Besides if you explore enough you'll be able to navigate fine
It takes so long to run to the areas
That one annoying star in Shipwreck
As recharge by tiny flame
Just take a crab friend with you š
Where are these candles?
Iām alone at the shipwreck and getting eaten alive by crabs looking for them
Yeah, the high up one on the cliff
I can barely see it without the brightness up full
I only found out recently that thereās an easy way to grab it
In live I wasted so many anti-grav spells because of it
Anyone know where the seasonal candles are today? Donāt want to get killed looking for them.
Using table to teleport a bunch of low wing wedged players used to be handy
Found one
Where was it App
I donāt have the table in beta, but I can show in Live
Now?
If youād like
Ok!
@blazing sail is on the same level the spirit is beside to,where the daily quests are
Always
And thereās some in the vault
I found them all on the ship
But that was terrifying
So many crabs man
So many crabs
I think thatās what they were trying to do but god they places them in an annoying area to go to every day
Placed
Okay that wasteland spirit sucked to do!
I also hate those crabs
anybody know where the seasonal candles are?
thanks!
Playing krill peek-a-boo this morning and this guy in the first room seems like heās gone kind of blind. Anybody else notice this?
With this season, are there no candle bundles scattered around the area?
@spark lance there most certainly are
I'm just blind then
There by the boat today
There are 4 bunches of candles in the daily quest level near the seasonal spirit and 6 candles in the vault
Do a good deed today. Be a crab distraction while others meditate. Vicious little critters.
I was thinking, and this is early to discuss but I thought about it regardless:
How will android user access the secret if there are no white beta capes?
Or do they have to hope someone from the iOS version happens to have one merged already?
Not sure I understand? Android and iOS players will all be mixed together in game, right? So an android player would only need to befriend a beta cape to gain access, just as it is now in the beta, original betaās helping new beta players gain access to get their capes.
Iām worried that it will be harder to find beta cape players in live to get access. I havenāt seen one person with a beta cape in live, much less having a friend with one. The smaller community in beta made it pretty easy to spread access too since everyone who went got the founders pack but Iām guessing a much smaller amount of people will be willing to pay what they are asking for that pack. And then an even smaller amount from those willing to pay actually getting to the office to buy it
I hadnāt considered it that way. I have a couple of friends with beta cape in live, but they rarely wear it so that adds another complication to the mix. You donāt see the cape, you donāt know they have one.
Yeah thatās true, I might have some but they just donāt wear it
Anything that stands out in today's update? š
Do you need to actually be wearing the cape to get in, or is it enough itās in your wardrobe? I should check that out later, unless someone already knows.
I think you need to be wearing it
@tawny bough I havenāt noticed much difference personally. Same glaring bugs are still proudly standing.
Yeah I believe it has to be on the character
I donāt chat or use tables though so maybe thatās where theyāve focussed their attention.
Ill have to do some table testing
Tell me theyāve stopped the blocking of gates/important parts. I had someone block candles to trigger the mantas yesterday.
You definitely need to be wearing the cape, it isnāt enough to own it. I experimented with that yesterday.
Thanks @spark lance
I wish people could just not be jerks. I love the glitchy table behavior. It makes it really fun to play with and people seem to get a kick out of seeing it, sitting in weird places and stuff and I hope that those blocking things with the table donāt ruin it
Most people do that to prevent people from activating the bell towers before burning up all the darkness thatās on the tower
You can totally go in, head to the place and then go home and change capes though.
But beta fixed it so the order doesnāt matter anymore
Some people still think they have to do it in order to get all the wax but theyāll eventually know
Thatās what they did it for. But itās still so irritating.
I protested by not helping burn the plants. Just stood there and watched. I always burn them first anyway, but it was jerk behaviour.
When that happens you should just head to the next temple
Well apparently if you fly right into a krill they get super made
Flying directly into a krill is fun
They spot you immediately and make you start falling so youāre vulnerable
patiently waits for the krill to come and then pull out the yeet card
Yeah weāre basically pigeons
works all the time
Flying into Windows
The krill, or human gets irritated
And decides to retaliate
- Live secret beta discussion: I think the point of the secret being so well hidden is that it will be more difficult to access. Also the purpose I think of the high price point. The original cape was exclusive and I think they want it to signify that youāve been around a bit and are highly motivated for the cape (long enough to find a beta at least). Not saying I do or do not agree with thisājust my suspicion of the purpose
- I had to fly directly into a krill today before it would target me. And yes, it was indeed super mad
- The prairie fixes and wax collection fixes šš¼šš¼
Hey, does anyone know what seasonal spirit gives you a flute? I have the pan flute already, but saw someone post a normal flute pic too. Iām dying to have it!!!
Ohhh thank you so much @trim skiff!!
theyāre blocking the manta because someone just regardless wherever thereās people trying to burn the darkness
Wax collection fixes!? Yay! Oh wait. Beta. Was there a problem with wax collection? Iām fed up of the issue in live (big clumps), for a moment I was going to dance a little.
if you activate manta youāre making their life hard
thankfully this bug is fixed in beta
I get that. My problem wasnāt with the plant burning, and I hate the manta activation when Iām busy doing other stuff so I totally get that too. Itās purely the blocking of the candles (or portals or anything) with the table. Using the table to restrict/delay/grief another player. Thatās it.
well thatās s***
but thatās something can easily handle
most of the spots have large reacting range
Once you know what youāre doing and you know how things can affect other players... you (I certainly) work around to ensure they get to do what they are doing in peace. Prime example, make sure everyone is safely positioned before you hit the switch in GW, so little things like that really irritate me. Itās cool though. From another perspective, I suppose, it is making clear their intention at that moment and not to interfere. šš
itās a matter of game design, you canāt expect everyone is doing good
It is. My anger has fizzled out a bit. Itās been a long day. š
i wish you had a better day in real life
š thank you. Tomorrow is a new day.
That was a ride lol
Today I saw what was apparently a āshepherdā indicator. Itās basically a long, pointed beacon above their head. She was at the table in the office (the room with the TV screen) when I was chasing down the spirit. So I didnāt stop to look, just noticed something glowing around a player. After I got the spirit I came back to have a closer look. A couple other players were standing around her at the table and I barely got a glance when she knelt down and warped. Otherwise I would have taken a screen shot.
Yeah thatās the friendliness ranking
You can see your own ranking from the friend constellation next to the blocked users icon
How is friendliness even measured
No one knows 
Oh. What
Donāt think itāll come to live when the season does
Hm.
There's.. a new iPhone reveal right now..
They're talking about the Apple Arcade atm
Maybe we'll see Sky
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New iphone? Didnāt the x just come out?
Rip my 7 getting left in the dust
Imo it's relevant for the beta as it's new hardware to play the beta on
They release a new phone every year
The interesting part is really the Arcade
I know it was the āfriendliness rankingā. I was just aware that some people who had the āshepherdā ranking didnāt know what they looked like to other players. Itās kinda like the top half of one of those long lights you are trying to target when racing in the Valley. Just in case people were wondering. If I see it again on someone Iāll try to get a screen shot.
@lusty light You do? I would love to see it if you posted it or want to share it. She disappeared so fast I barely saw it.
@lusty light @spark lance there isn't a beacon, there's a badge. Are you sure that was a shepherd?
that sounds more like the hacker "crown"
Naw they just didnāt see it well
? I never saw it lol. Havent gotten on beta for a week
And you mentioned flamepool when it was aMused that saw it
Yeet
oop, sorry! for wrong @
@hollow compass Oh, I must have misunderstood what I was seeing. I simply assumed it was a Shepard. So youāre saying this flame is another thing? Do tell.
Itās alright.
Side note: Man I wish they gave us a heart package or something for getting started. I miss all my stuff in live and thats what keeps me from playing beta
I wish that too but part of being a beta tester is testing the economy š¤§
Yeah true but the hearts are the same
@lusty light Thanks for the link to the picture. What I saw wasnāt a shepherd indicator at all. I just assumed that was what I was seeing.
At least from what ive seen nothing has changed for the hearts
@spark lance the shepherd badge is literally a badge. It doesn't shine or anything. It's just a sign above someone's head and it's not visible from all angles, especially not if there are several shepherds around.
Oh hm
Maybe the beacon is the beacon of light that appears when someone forgets a candle?
yeah, I haven't seen any changes in heart costs for cosmetics
Yeah i wish it was more clear with the badges. People see the badge but how are they supposed to know what it means
@ocean garden they read the patch notes?
My patch notes donāt mention the new ranking system
I mean, as a beta tester you're kind of obliged to read the patch notes and test the things that are specified there.
No, it wasnāt like when someone forges a candle. I was a steady, glowing, cone-like shape above their head. At least as far as I could tell.
@ocean garden they definitely did
They did mention it in the patch notes
Well I donāt see it
@spark lance sounds like the hacker crown
I'm in the middle of Forest right now, but someone can probably screencap it?
Does anyone have a picture of a āhacker crownā? And how did you learn that was what it was?
Thats why i was confusing when people started talking about it because all my patch notes say are glitch fixes and such
Hacker crown?
Man im confused
Posting pics of hacks isnāt allowed here
Oh, really? Okay. Sorry. @lusty light
No worries!
sorry, you can probably search for it, but i basically looks like the halo on the mountain we always see in the distance
How does anyone even know what a āhacker crownā is?
it's not in the game, so if someone is wearing it they have hacked the game
Does it just get put on them if they hack or are they putting it on themselves
It's a bit sad to see hackers
Ive never seen one
After the reset it's impossible to get winter items for example
I'm going to assume they put it on themselves, much like all the other stuff we've seen them wear
And you see some run around
But arent winter items still available for people that played the beta before?
Hackers days are numbered š
I hope so
The beta had a full reset, including items and everything, not too long ago
Itās impossible to have winter gear in beta atm
Ive seen people with gratitude masks
we were stripped off everything
Ah so thatās still available
gratitude happened just before Live launch, so some of us have a few of those items
The thanos snap was horrible
Hmm thats also why I donāt want to work super hard to unlock all the stuff for this season in beta. Itās just going to get removed eventually and I should save my wrists for live
Iāll unlock what i can, but im not gonna go tryhard
The beta is for testing, in all forms of the word
I'm holding out a little for live, but it's fun to get items
Yeah thats why I just unlock whatever when i have the resources to do it
yep, I'm definitely not sweating it this time!
Meanwhile I was hard pressed to get my white cape again after the reset
And got it after a week
But I havenāt gotten anything else
It would have been nice of they gave us the items for free though. Since were supposed to be testing them and all