#beta-discussion
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Hmm. I don’t think it changes until after the daily reset, so it’s hard to tell what actions affect it.
Chibi it’s now more big or I’m imagine it?
Saaaad
Now we look like a child instead of a toddler
Hahahaha that’s true
I just checked. Does everyone’s look about the same? I also haven’t sent or received a single heart in beta so scratch that theory.
I think its related to how much you chat and/or spend time with other players
My meter is about the same today
You’re doing better than me @blazing sail 😂
I’m super nice and helpful. Mostly. 🥴
it’s not related to chat
Is the forest clearing the non-rainy part in the middle or the part at the end of the level? I looked at both and don’t see the meditation spot. Don’t know if it’s an oversight on my part or if it’s missing, or is it the area before entering the forest?
Before you enter the forest.
Oooh, ok. Thanks, that explains it
it’s related to helping players through levels
Hmm, I guess I could see that but other than a couple times helping someone through Eden I haven’t done much of that and most of my meter is full
Unless the game just counts traveling with another player in general?
could be 🤔
Has anyone maxed it? I mean I will always stop to help open a door, or burn a big plant, or share some light. I’m just on my lonesome a lot. Not that it matters. I’m somewhere just over half on the friendly scale. 😂
I do and so do most of my friends so far
@blazing sail where did you find that
It’s in the friend constellation
Be in a constellation screen and tap in upper right
Go to your friend constellations and look for a heart icon in the upper right of the screen
next to the unblock icon
Oh one more question. Are there seasonal candles in the forest because I looked most places and didn’t see them. I’m guessing I just missed them?
Yes there are seasonal candles in forest
There are. ||They are in the bit where the seasonal spirit is.||
Oh ok, I guess I looked past them, thanks
@sterile parrot ||just go to where the seasonal spirit starts, and follow the path it took. They are all around that track||
Oooh saw someone with an umbrella. Didn’t know it works while flying too
This season the candles are in new places.
Do the seasonal candles give less wax this time?
No
wish i actually signed up for this beta, the season looks soo coool
anyone know what its based off of?
Rain gear?
🤔 huh
The only thing I want is the umbrella
whats the total cost to get the umbrella?
it’s the rain update
Got mixed feelings about those umbrellas
If they were gonna give us some sort of protection I would have rather have gotten krill armor 😛
i love the umbrella but itd be cool if you could sit down with them aha
You can’t?
you can but it like
besides the shrink spell, are you able to wear the the new season masks while being a chibi?
sits very awkward
Nobody cares about the pirouette emotes? Or are you just talking about items?
I keep seeing people much shorter than me(when I already am a lot shorter than average) wearing the season masks
im not sure if they are chibi or not since I cant see them run
good point
i guess my next thing would be the umbrella
new one
i think it’s a better alternative to using up 25 hearts
and it’s a viable cosmetic
so
These new home warp changes are really not cool
I just want the chat crash to be fixed
Where is the forest clearing, is it here?
I keep accidentally clicking on some chat bubble while trying to look around
Haha almost lost wings in the valley tunnel
forest clearing is the very beginning
Ooooh I wanna see that sun hat with the deer mask
There's 3 clearings .. "the clearing" is really confusing imo. And the first one is the only one you're likely to skip over.
It’s one of the only areas where you can meditate without being rained on in the open 😁
Hi I just joined the beta and had a question do I have to unlock all the portals for the event to start?
No not all of the portals
I think I had gotten to the forest when the seasonal spirit appeared?
Oh ok thank you
@dire rover I agree, “the clearing” is too vague
They call the end of forest forests end tho
I didn’t have vault open yet when the season started and I was still able to access the other seasonal spirits
Just never got any opening cutscene for it
How does the ||space thing|| work in the secret place?
It was only for that one day
Chase the spirits
Oh okayy
For those of you looking for the mediation spots, I made a separate guide for all for them after last season ended 🙂
Oh that’s too bad that the space station was only one day. I was waiting to check it out with a friend and we saw it wasn’t working yesterday - I assumed it was just down at the moment
Can I just say how much I hate the candle bunch at the stadium
The wind always blows me away from it
Wait the office stuff isn’t all there every day?
It changes daily
Dose the resize effect ever wear out
I saw the space stuff but the crashing has kept me from going back
Would suck if I missed some things forever
@blazing sail We've only had the office for a few days, so we don't know yet.
It might cycle looking at how the other levels cycle
Ah ok
nsknscsnnj oh n o,,, rip to the japanese friend i made in beta bc i dont know their name but they r trying 2 tell me
but
Android beta link it’s out already?
@soft otter they did one round of invites on Friday, and no more since as far as I know
Ohhh I see! Well have to wait more then.
Thanks @tawny osprey
Subsequent waves will apparently be larger (not that we have any idea how many people were in the first wave)
I'm also in the waiting boat
My guess is next wave will be on Monday
@tawny osprey I got my invitation today
Oof
I made a Chinese friend by the Bow emote and I think we were both trying to get it so it worked out in the end
But the sad thing is when I open the game it crashes after the TGC logo
@soft otter make sure you are signed up for Android on the mailing list
Still need to get to the shipwreck for that crab call
Yeah I did, a couple weeks before tgc send a mail to updates my info about what I can test. But nothing more.
I just reset my height and now I’m a tall person. I guess I can’t ever do Eden again if height is rerolled after rebirth
How do you reset your height? :o
@sterile parrot They've said it's rerolled, but in my experience it isn't very likely to be a drastic change.
Oh interesting, maybe I’ll try it...i don’t want to shrink is all
haha I hear you on that one
@soft otter one of the seasonal items is a ||height reset potion. It randomly rerolls your height and I pulled the long straw I guess ||
Ohhhh I see I hope to be lucky too haha
Is it limited to one use?
Yes, it is listed as a spell. Maybe there’s a way to get more since I haven’t unlocked that far up the spirit trees yet
I never use any spells in the live version bc I’m afraid to run out 😂
Only used the chibi one once with friends
the npc in the office ,, is valid
I hoard mine too except for anti grav because I have like 12 of them
Seems to be the most commonly given spell for me at least
i dont hoard mine
It would be cool if there was some way to get more spells
^^
What spirit retools ur height?
@haughty vigil I think the story of the spirits today is that one of the developer’s SO was having a child and was very worried
o ? oouus
Er wad spirit can adjust height?
Yea, did u see the bebe at the end?
does anyone else have the issue w the flute in certain areas sounding ,, r e a ll y quiet
oh !!
wasteland i think
one of the spells from wasteland
but does anyone else have that issue w the flute ,
I do
ah !! ok so not just a me issue
In valley at the tower section it gets quite but ur friends can still hear u playing
It’s weird
o ?? huh
Or if there were accessories that let you use all the spells (sort of like the chibi mask for chibi)
so otheres can hear me playing but i cant . hear myself playing ? sksksk
do the locations where you can collect seasonal candle light change
or is that a dumb question haha
Yes, they change locations every time they’re in the area, but not like in the same day
Like they’re not in the same place they were last week
ahh ok , thanks !
Each candle has 2 nearby positions it can be in iirc
Isle of dawn seasonal isn’t working for me. I got the spirit a while ago but didn’t collect it at the temple and now it isn’t there or at the original area.
How many ascended candles does it cost to reach the second friendship tier?
@weak marsh Can you see the spirit in you constellation? Or is it not there at all?
@tawny bough 2 iirc
Is the blue cape something you buy or do you get it from a spirit?
If you mean the one that most people are wearing it is from the store. There is a blue cape from a spirit but that’s not the one that so many are wearing right now
how do i get to the office?
what do the office spirits do?
is it only for the beta?
@spark lance do u know what they r for?
From the space it returning you to office, one of the summon cat and from the sky idk
That all what i know
There’s one high in the air but it doesn’t do anything
It may have another purpose
Yea. So the second office one summons a cat?
Is it still possible to go to space?
Oh yea how does that work? xD
I’ve found heigh potion, is it was from spirit, or it was a gift for everyone?
About space, if TV is blinks, that means you can go to the space
(And play music from Star Wars in the head x) )
Is there any way to make the tv blink? Or it’s just random times
@spark lance re: your suggestion about transitions and getting home: you can use the gear menu to return home at any time.
If you want to play valley twice, just return home, enter a different level, return home again, and enter valley and it will be reset to the start.
Did it change in the latest build? I was blocked from Home during transition zones the past couple days and only just now got around to filing it.
I'll try it again in a second.
I don’t think I’ve ever been unable to return home from anywhere.
The spirit inside the office room changes everyday, so you have to wait for the next round when it comes back if you missed it@wanton shuttle
And if I were blocked for any reason, I could still work around that by force quitting the app and starting again to return home 🙂
when should we expect this season to go live, anyway? new to beta so i have no idea of the time frame for these testing periods
Game: Unable to port Home
Alex: How dare you
@burnt finch In the past TGC have said there will be a two-week break between seasons.
What’s this about a height potion?
?
Does anybody know about how many people are in the Android beta so far?
height potion? i'm interested
i need to tower over people to assert my dominance
because there isn't a t pose emote (yet)
@mortal lantern shh
Is like a real life height simulator because people view you differently if you’re tall
Lmaoo
Force-quitting? 😣 C'mon. It's easy for them to just keep Home warp for transition zones like it's been from live.
Yeah for a mobile game I don’t appreciate limiting when I can go home to be safe.
Sometimes you need to stop playing quickly
I haven’t experienced this inability to warp home. If I do I will also cry about it.
Besides it takes way too long now
While sighted by krill or in rain I can understand. Transitions zones? Definitely not.
But I usually only enter he transitional areas when I want to be in them....
I was hit by a crab in the forest when I was almost warping home and it cancelled it lol 
it takes longer to go home?
When the high-fives gesture path is completed, it gives a permanent reduced mask. But it's random. I've just tested it. I've only given you a 15-minute scale-out mask.
But Alex, Valley requires a double trip anyhow.
maybe thats a fix for avoiding losing wings to krill
Haha I also play as a chibi, so I can’t warp home holding someone’s hand because I’m off the ground
Right so I finish the first pass, return home from the arena or the area after, go again. And don’t go to 5he transitional level
I have definitely noticed a "cool down" for teleporting Home and also that it sometimes just doesn't work, but I'm unsure why that is.
Yeah, I definitely waited a couple seconds for a home warp that never happened
And yes, now that you mention it, warp home has changed: you can cancel it by moving, so maybe it’s a way to prevent over-use of he warp. Or maybe it’s just a bug
Does anyone know where the prairie season spirit is?
Look around the nest area ^^
Yeah, it’s in the prairie level
Hahaha
I’m helping!!,
The Nest is the the area to the right of the muffin grass rock
Nest, near the message candle shrine
Oh okay thanks!
Another gotcha on Home is Forest post-temple grove into Valley. That also takes forever.
Yeah, I often skip that one by going home. But I like it so I go sometimes
that just sounds like there is too much to handle for the engine
On my iPad Pro, which should handle everything just fine, it has been the same amount of time in all areas, and that time is much slower than live.
Yes I’ve noticed that. I think it’s now requiring a period of immobility before the warp initiates.
Pretty sure not. I'm almost always stationary before invoking Home.
And don't move during it.
Right but it sits there for 2 or 3 seconds doing nothing after you press the button
And if you move, the warp is canceled
Right. I'm just saying that post-press period is longer.
And I’m agreeing with that 🙂 and looking at the mechanics of specifically why
No I know, we are seeing the same things. Maybe I’m not communicating clearly, and that happens sometimes
My complaint I guess is 2-fold: post-press is longer, and it seems also Home's not available in transition areas now.
So here’s what I think happens in beta now:
- Press home warp button.
- Wait 2-3 seconds while nothing happens.
2a. If you move at all the warp is canceled. Maybe this is intentional. - Warp actually begins, fade to white.
- Poof.
The must-not-move thing could be intentional, yeah 🤔
So 2a is the part that’s causing us trouble. If you’re in flight maybe this cancels the warp
I'm about to race Valley, then will test not moving and moving availability.
BUT for valley, just warp back from the end cutscene room and skip the trouble
True, but it's slower having to visit another realm first, is the thing 😕
I use prairie because the gate is close to the spawn point
I'd much prefer to just cross the temple threshhold into Wasteland transition, then warp Home.
Yeah, to me that's not something to foist on players' QoL.
So my bug will stay.
Even skipping the cutscene takes longer tho. And I agree qol, but if the change is intentional Then I would say disable the home button when in motion or something else that is clearer than the long delay.
I disagree that skipping the cutscene takes longer than looping through another realm. We could test that, I guess. But it's also so much more cognitive load and disruption of flow.
We agree on longer delay being highly undesirable.
personally, i see it as a way to softlock someone.
and that's a bad thing.
if you're able to windlock them, they can't do anything about it if they don't have anymore light.
hello guys, anybody knows when they’ll be recruiting more beta testers?
of course, they can do the obvious reset the app and go back, but i still think it's an issue.
@little saddle apparently a second wave of Android beta invites went out today
i've gotten myself windlocked a couple of times out of pure curiousity and i couldn't go home.
*windlocked as in standing on ground while wind pushes
So, Alex, it looks like it does in fact depend upon being stationary to initiate, and as you noted also to finish.
@tawny osprey oh thanks (I’ll tell my brother on Android that lol), but I meant the regular ios beta for next season
@little saddle as far as we know there was just the one round of access for the iOS beta
Anyone know how many spirits you need to access the spirit gate in Wasteland
The one that leads to the boat
so there’s no way to join anymore as of now?
I deleted my bug er suggestion, because it's still available.
Ok, so yes the potential for softlock is there. Maybe benji wants to push at that until it can be reproduced easily to makes the strongest case. Otherwise I tend to think the stationary thing is an intentional change.
Still, the extra time waiting with it looking unresponsive is bad ux
There's the shaft of light that dwindles, but it starts off so weak it's kind of hard to tell there's much progress going on, that it's counting down anything...🤔
Oh that's so funny: even walking around Wasteland campfire, Home blinks off when I hop over something. So it really is tied directly to being on the ground.
Where do u get the light blue cape?
I find that this "not moving" when trying to warp home can be potentially dangerous in certain areas, especially if you accidentally go out of bounds.
I suspect they've implemented it so that you can't warp home when a krill is about to hit you or a similar situation. But I don't understand why that is something that ever needed to be fixed in the first place.
With the introduction of penalty from hitting walls/landing too hard to this possible life saver being patched out, I am wondering why TGC wants our Sky kids to suffer for no apparent reason that our own player inabilities/slowness.
I would much prefer they simply disable it for krill sight and in rain and leave it at that.
how do you mean disable? disable the ability to warp home?
Yeah.
why?
I don't want them to! 🤗 I'm saying if they insist on it for those reasons, then address them directly 😉
I think the game would be unnecessarily dangerous and punishing for new players, who are both weak of wing power and unfamiliar with the world (and thus don't know where to hide).
Quite agreed.
even the fact that you can lose stars from just going down ice slopes in Valley is ridiculous
I understand the are trying to force players to work together. But then the act of lighting someone to show them in color should also give you the ability to hold hands. You can’t weaken new players in one area and not give them a strength in another.
If they want working together and making friends to be a critical aspect of the game, then don’t cripple efforts to do that.
well, hey, we got the badge now to show everyone what good friends we are
Good point. Problem solved! Ha!
lol
I liked your idea that lighting someone up to show their colours would also let you hold their hand at least temporarily, instead of having to offer a candle. Because sometimes you just want to help with one simple task and you may never meet again.
Exactly. And when you first start out you don’t have enough candles to give
The commerce for friendships should be different than that for cosmetics
In old beta being friends with lots of people was possible and not too unpractical, because it was a limited world and most people were around at some point of the day. In Live, you meet someone once and maybe even go on a long adventure for that day, but then they never log on at the same time again and you end up just "waving from a distance" with you lights in the constellation map.
I’m on the verge of leaving the game because it’s become a grind. But I’m hoping the creators will take note so that they don’t lose future players like myself.
Makes me wish I had been around for original beta
I would have loved that
I remember you saying that earlier. I think it's been something we've discussed before, even pre-Live, that the game needed something else than just daily quests.
I wonder if TGC can take play pattern into account when prioritizing who to merge with. That probably would be tremendously hard on the back-end, though😕
I realise that some of us old beta players may seem like a clique, because we've played together for so long. 🙈
Yes, play pattern would sure be a nice way to match people, but you’re probably right, difficult to implement.
@spark lance do you mean for server instances?
Pre-launch beta was full of times it felt much more like a grind, when there was less to do, and when players only swarmed the servers for like 2 or 3 days after an update and then stayed away until the next update. It wasn’t all sunshine and roses.
I’m not an old player though. I’ve played for about a month I think.
And I’m already burnt out.
@orchid nexus yes, I remember this
Before seasons and quests and even star children... all you could do was farm candles and collect your emotes for the thousandth time.
which is what I said above, I think?
ergh, collecting the emotes...man, that handstand one!
TGC has bitten off a lot to chew, and I think in a couple of years if they get a handle on technical aspects, much more content will help things not feel so constrained and repetitive.
I’m not disagreeing. Just offering a perspective.
ah, I wasn't sure 🙂
I heard Eden is now harder?
Yeah, I was appalled in an old Eden run to see that emotes were lost in the process.
I mean come on
Harder than what?
Doing Eden once a week and then getting all my wings again is already a slog
Don’t force me to do it twice a week
Eden then was harder.
Nobody’s is forcing you.
People said the last part drains you twice as fast in the beta
Eden is both harder and easier. Mainly, you're supposed to ||die|| now.
I haven’t gone myself in the beta
You had to do it to keep your emotes, but the rock rain smacked the emotes and emote upgrades out of you randomly.
But you’re always supposed to die in Eden
I think you should see it for yourself then and offer your perspective ^^
They probably had bad luck
We were talking old beta but I think you’re comparing Eden in beta to Eden in live?
I'm just glad we keep emotes through Eden now.
I don't see a difference in the two at the moment, at least.
And there's no stun lock in Eden anymore (though that was a bug), so a lot less frustrating than previous versions.
Yeah, I ran beta Eden last night and it seemed unchanged.
Same.
I haven’t played it this week. It was fine last week. But if you haven’t played it then maybe withhold judgment until you have?
ran it today and got about the same result as always
I’m gonna play Eden now, since talking about it always make me want to go enjoy the views
I was actually a little disappointed when I realised I will have to go again, because I didn't have enough candles to unlock one last spirit
I did live Eden just now and only got 13-14 candles but not going in for the last 1-2
People love to spread controversy because it gets reactions. I like to temper that impulse.
yeah, there are a lot of myths about beta
After unlocking all the emote tiers I don’t stress about getting every last drop out of Eden anymore.
People will always spread rumors, even if they don’t mean to spread misinformation
In Live I don't need to go anymore, unless I want more candles to unlock friendship perks with.
That’s why it’s good to test it yourself
huh
hack prevention
how will any of us test that if none of our devices are jbroke
Hi guys, does the crab call actually work on the crabs?
I tried, and they ignored me for a while but not sure if it was beta bug or crab call
@spark lance maybe it's not something we can test
maybe it's just implemented as a feature on TGC's behalf
@obtuse plank I have no idea, I thought that was just a joke
huh
@hollow compass ok then I took it too literally haha xD
@spark lance TGC may implemented features that are not things we can actively test, but they still feel it's important for us to know that they are present in the game. They didn't specify what the "hack prevention" was, so we wouldn't know - unless someone is willing to try hacking the game, I suppose.
maybe you want to try? 😉
huh
i don’t think i’ve seen a way to hack testflight apps yet
unless i'm being dumb
obviously, it's been done already, since some people have met hacked accounts in beta if we're to trust the screenshots channel
no meant that i learned something new
thought: how the spirits are working in the office is a test for adding more spirits to level in the game
thought: how the spirits are working in the office is just part of the Easter egg and they are only telling us a story
yes.. and also a clever way of testing out having daily spirits in other levels
like imagine a spirit that only appears on Fridays in the Forest
maybe they’re trying to show us how to be a good member of tgc’s company
so if we want to apply for a job at their place we know what to do
Bring a flying cat to the interview: Check
anyone know where around the shipwreck the wasteland seasonal spirit is?)))
leave pizza on the sofa: Check
Flood the bathroom: Check
@grim flame it's in one of the pipes betwee shipwreck and grave yard
make a hole in the ceiling so sand can take over the whole upper floor: check
Bribe staff member with $30: Check
okay the spirit went outside, and disappeared, is that it?
Usually they activate something, but it might be a small something.
I feel like in a Miyazaki movie where it just ends.
they do activate things sometimes, sometimes it's just a story
like a story about them at work
it's just scenes from life, if you will
much like the real spirits in the game
@rapid crow do you see this subsection?
why i can't play android beta the app got crash..
@rapid crow here..the beta group 🙂
wait , the android beta is already out ?????
It is being rolled out slowly.
:0
So if we get the adventure pass in the beta does it transfer over to the world launch?
No, nothing transfers over to the live server from beta
@hybrid wedge when u say rolled out slowly , that means people are picked randomly to get access to the beta ? do i need to install anything to get access to it ?
That's my understanding. But I don't have any Android devices, so I'm not sure if you need to install anything extra the way iOS users need have TestFlight. Maybe one of the other people who are beta testing Android can say?
only @wintry tiger has said anything about having the beta as far as ive seen
You need to have a Gmail address which you will use to log into Google Play and Google Groups once you receive the invite.
ah
so basically it's the waiting game , lit
Thanks @spark lance!

The unofficial title of the beta, yes. ^^
@rich wolf congrats on getting the badge!
I assume you got it. There was a giant one floating above you when I logged on haha
Yeah?
q: how many people did you lead through the beta gate
I led in two more today.....
plus my sub, two
Ahh
you're literally being a shepard
i led in zero but my score is really close to badge
It may be other gates besides just the office one
leading in general(?)
like every time, none of my friends love the running and burning chores
My guess would be helping someone through barriers
did you guys know that the table also serves as an umbrella (at least in live atm)
well they doesn’t have this counted
Sorry, not sure what you mean?
if you put a table down in forest and get under it, you aren't affected by rain
its an umbrella
i mean the number of players you led through gates
they count how many time you hug, high five, hold hands etc
yea heather i tried using table in beta to do forest seasonal :"D
Do you start with the friendliness meter at 0 or does every start with it partially full? When I first checked I was at about 2/3 full and today I’m at 7/8 or so full
I'm not sure about using it for seasonal because the spirit likes to float....
can you even get the spirit pinned under a table?
I was really close to badge , then I helped someone carry light for the forest emote and now I’m a shepherd.
Edit: we didn’t even finish the quest
i tried but mine was the spell so once it locked in a certain place it locked
also i miscalculated and was like 2 inchess off from on top of the dang cliff part 😔
Haha
@blazing stone was there like an animation or notification or something when you got the badge?
Modern problems require modern solutions
it'd be like one of those hospital children game with the magnetic ball bearings
No use of the table is a waste
@hybrid wedge Nothing I noticed at all.
Every table use is justified and called for
not like that omg
If you have the table in your cosmetics closet then it's only one table and you keep it in the end. ^^
@blazing stone hmmmm
Oh, speaking of which, how long does the table last? I have been trying to sit at home and keep a table out so people can talk but I’ve noticed that it has disappeared sometimes when I go afk and come back
I wonder what the glowing umbrella and cape look like in wasteland
I wonder why they won't just let us "buy" seasonal candles in the store
Yeah, seems odd if we are testing not to have full access to the trees
Part of what they want to know is how long it takes people to progress through the season normally.
Ah, that makes sense
that would take longer than the expected time before the season is supposed to be released though isn't it
We’re not supposed to complete the season in the beta
It's been true for the last seasons we've tested in beta too.
You can buy seasonal candles in the shop in live.
We're not expected to complete this season in the timeframe we have.
It sure would be fun to “buy” candles in beta, but we’re here to test like normal players would
It's one of the things you learn when you're new to beta.
I guess that explain the bug where people’s candles weren’t converted last season. They should let beta complete a season or else bugs will come up that they don’t anticipate
People wouldn't be as thorough doing daily quests if they could just buy candles, so fewer things would get reported
The beta completes the season, but that won’t happen before live release
@spark lance We have just one week less for this season compared to live. I'm pretty sure we can finish it?
yes... the more we acquire, the more we can test.... is what I'm saying
Testing isn't just about acquiring. It's about how the game play works
How would acquiring more than you would in live test anything?
I see, so beta is essentially 2 weeks ahead in that case
if we can't acquire the pan pipes, how do we know they don't sound like whale song
Oh, ok, I thought once it was live released the beta would end
How the pan flute sounds is definitely not a priority
Same with the flute, which is a good example since it needs fixing
but cosmetics clipping and etc.
They want to know about the level issues and connection and chat bug, those are the main things we’re testing
do umbrellas knock out krill
Those things can’t go to live like they are now
like hitting on them?
someone suggesting booping a krill on the nose with an umbrella
How an instrument sounds will be really disappointing to people if they can’t hear them due to a low volume. But I see how things like the chat bug are much more important
I separated from a friend right before the ending of the game due to that when we were both counting down at the end of Eden. Sucked.
Is this a bug? The beta version chibi is considerably larger than the live version chibi...... Pretty fat:(
And at chat tables there are routinely people disappearing every time due to it so clearly not everyone knows about it yet
Chibi gets smaller if you put another mask on top of the chibi mask or something. A friend in beta showed me how the chibi mask alone was bigger but when she put her cat mask on from last season it went to the smaller chibi size
I don’t have the chibi mask so I couldn’t test it but I could see her doing it
Yeah I’m pretty sure chunky chibi is a bug
Putting any other mask will make you remain chibi and the actual chibi mask makes you look a bit bigger, but not normal sized
I opened up beta today and thought my sky kid was proportionately smaller today
Kinda cool, but weird that you can’t go back to normal
I didn't use any chibi spell or anything
another mask? I can't put on......
but all the buildings in the Citadel looked like 25% bigger
maybe when I did eden I got shorter?
and since I live/beta the difference is throwing me off
umbrella vs krill test 1: sight unseen
result: inconclusive krill see you under the umbrella
test 2: is it okay to pet a krill
observation: krill are now superfast
result: sometimes petting a krill's tail will cause it to roll over
Yeesh. why is the forest spirit so hard?
isn't this game supposed to be nice and relaxing 
Where do you get the faceplant stance from?
Does the umbrella help with the forest seasonal emote quest?
A lot of the seasonal spirits are intended to be a bit more long-term. You don’t need to get them on your first try, just by the end of the season.
Yeah that chat bug must go ....
Chat bug?
all the plants still change places?
yeah
and the leaves are brown
it crashes your game
when you use chat
People like to get the emotes early so they can work on unlocking the trees.
and the sky is grey
Where's the new stance located? ^^
forest
Yep, it is kinda awful not having one emote for a while
And this season is definitely harder than the last one
The faceplant one?
the "now this's a knife" stance
I love the new stance lol
It looks pretty hilarious as chibi too
Oh I'm looking for where you get the stance where you're face down in the dirt LOL unless I've got my wires crossed
@rich wolf Please don't post photos in this channel.
You can post them in #beta-screenshots-videos
then there are these mean people ruining my emote quest as well
Throw them off a cliff
Sorry to hear that Claude
uhg. I wish I could have a private instance of the area I'm in half the time
people are jerks
Meanwhile in the timeline where the chat bug makes it into live
@brazen flicker sorry if that crashed you too...
was trying to hold hands and just be a umbrella
@past field Your question about the friendliness badge is an experiment TGC is trying in the beta. It shows how helpful you are to other players.
Ah, it's a "duck/cover" stance? I've been looking everywhere. It doesn't seem to be one of the seasonal rewards
that's good to know... clicked on you to hold hands and clicked on a chat box [...]
@spark lance oh thanks haha
I wish they let you keep some of the hairs on with the sunhat
Sunhat with long hair would be sooooo cute
Yeah I agree!
Can someone tell me how to do the 3rd part of the forest escort
especially when you've worked hard for that long hair
It's up the hill
I don't see any possible way to keep the spirit from resetting
@spark lance um about the badge do other people see it?
Claude, get under cover as quickly as you can
I know it's up the hill, but the spirit goes out anyway
Let the spirit get recharged before you start out again
I do that, but there's no spot to recharge on the way up the hill
@past field Yes other people can see that you have a badge but not the friendliness level of it.
it just dies regardless
There is! I just did it
at the base of the tree there's a nice spot
@spark lance is there only one level oh okay
Some people plan the route before they start it, that's one idea.
So where's that cover/duck stance located? Which constellation?
@past field It looks like a progress bar, so some people have less than full.
Okie
@tawny bough That's in Wasteland. Do you have the link to the wiki?
!wiki
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Oh thanks!
You bet!
How to start the beta app?
If it's crashing, would you create a bug report with your device info please in #beta-bugs-ios ?
ok..
Wait a minute, the Android beta is already out?
I think they’re accepting early access people right now
||sad news, hacking is still possible as before, writing an email now....||
Whoever is playing Pokémon songs on their flute right now: 💜💜💜
Where are they accepting beta for android
they send you an email if you're invited
Yeah, I got invited last Friday. What a surprise to wake up to on Saturday.
Hey I got invited to the Android beta, became part of the Sky Public Beta Google group and installed the game, but when I try to launch the game it shows the thatgamecompany logo and then exits the game. Anyone know why this might be?
Sounds like a lot of android players are having crash issues when they launch the game. Post your device information and a description of the problem in #beta-bugs-ios
Alright thanks
Np!
Dang i think the reason the email wont go through is probably because I already play beta on IOS
@empty osprey If TGC has your email address you should have gotten an email in the past week or so asking you to check your profile they have for you and update what devices you do or don't want to beta test on. If you did that and selected android, they'll have you down for it, but they're opening the android beta slowly.
yeah i edited mine awhile ago
Alright thanks for the information ill go check it now!
@empty osprey like ur pfp btw
Thank you 😊😊
I don’t like the friendship badge. It’s a target on a player’s back: “bug me I’ll drop whatever I’m doing and help you”. It’s literally “be friends the way we think you should be friends, big brother is watching and keeping track of your actions. Enough ‘gold star’ stickers and you get to be teacher’s pet.” At least that’s how I feel about it.
I don’t like that there is a second, almost identical beta cape anyone can get, especially since acquiring it requires help from a pre-launch beta player. I can’t even wear the original any more without being followed and chirped at almost constantly by others who want in the secret area.
Thought the beta cape was supposed to be only for actual beta players. You know, those of us who played and turned in tons of bugs and suggestions for months before the game even launched because we wanted to help, before it was even suggested that we might get a reward in the live version for the effort.
Now far too many want in the beta just for the chance of getting a special item.
Friendship badge ? Is that what the special friendship rank thing is ???
Yea it is. I didnt even know that it shows up on your character? But it does?
@high ember I mean what differentiates the people turning in loads of bugs for this beta and the ones doing it for the first go?
We’re helping the company regardless
@sterile steeple exactly this. they're still playing the game and (hopefully) reporting bugs
i do think though that the pestering of beta players by others is an unintended side effect though
People didn’t start asking to join the beta in droves until after the beta cape was announced, is my point. There are far too many who aren’t actually helping. They just want stuff.
I think getting the special items should have somehow been based on turning in bugs and suggestions, not just having access to the beta.
Doesnt the founder pack thingy only work in beta anyways
why do people want it so badly lol
Indeed you could always wear a different cape until the hype dies down 🙂
i think the founder's cape is a nice idea that'll make TGC a ton of money, and i'm all for it if it keeps the servers up longer
If this goes in live, it’ll likely never die down, as there will always be new players.
I didnt even know what color the beta cape was i thought it was gray (because im color blind) but ive seen some beta players brag about it
maybe only unlockable to shepards
once everyone who knows about it gets it people will stop bothering you
and there won't nearly be as many new players as the game goes on, it has a lifespan like any other game
@past pilot It’s being tested in beta now, so yes it’s only in beta.
hey this is a rly dumb question but how do you join beta testing?
wait for invite
does that come from being in this chat?
@edgy badge read #news and #beta-announcements
the beta is full now though
are you asking about iOS or Android beta?
someone have a screenshot of the non event umbrella?
Is the forest seasonal emote easier with friends? It sure is a tough one on your own.
I think it is @proud cradle
Excellent. I really enjoy the way the game encourages co-operative play.
i felt it's harder for most of the time tho
Hey does anyone have the deer mask in beta and the sun hat? I wanna see how they look together
No one should have the deer mask in beta.
@blazing sail no one in beta has the deer mask because there wasn’t enough time to finish the season
You'll have to use the power of your imagination 
or Photoshop
Ha I can barely use my imagination to figure out how wigs will look with it
But in my head a sun hat would be fun with a deer mask
eat stuff - get bigger
drink stuff - get smaller
I just don’t know if I’m right

I actually use the first one there
Until I unlock the Forest elder hair in like 10 years

Yes
is piggyback only for beta?
is it possible to wear the beta reward cape in the main game?
@rich wolf my friend and I are going to try eden piggyback as soon as we get enough stars
how do I get it on my main? only at the end of the beta?
The Beta reward was a one-time thing for the testing period prior to the iOS global launch. A future reward is not planned.
!betareward
It recharges like holding hands does
you can't get it anymore now
well I just got the cape
You can’t get it in the live version
The 'beta' cape is only to use in the new beta not outside they stopped that.
The founders cape isn’t the same as the original beta cape. We don’t know if we’ll be able to get it in live. If we can, it’ll probably cost money just like the shop image indicates.
I just saw someone with the seasonal red “bunny/fox” mask in beta. How is this possible?
From the Gratitude season
But how is that available in beta?
I got it in live but it’s not there for me in beta
Beta testers that aren’t brand new might have unlocked it previously
Live and beta are separate, so your live progress will not switch over to beta
That’s why I was surprised to see the mask. Because I didn’t realize beta was open at the same time as the season of gratitude
This most recent beta session is still fairly new, there are testers who’ve been around for much longer 😊
Oh, so the old beta and the new one cross over . . . I should have realized that
The beta had a shortened run of Gratitude before the global launch, so people with profiles before this most recent round of invites will have some of the items from it.
^^
It might also change looks from beta to live version, and I for one really hope it does
it’s all one beta that gets updated
It's too similar atm
I'm hoping for emerald color
Like.. green..
but if emerald gets a little too teal .... well, we’ve been there
So will the friendship badge just show up for you when you log in?
If you’ve completed whatever tasks it takes to get it
Or is there some preliminary step
it’s mysterious
Does friend ranking have any practical purpose?
I’m less than half atm, I’m not surprised lol
Right, so obtaining it is mysterious but if you’ve mysteriously obtained it, will it just show up when you log in?
It’s just an attempt to quantify how good of a friend you are, aka trying to coax you into playing the game a certain way
I have it but only see it when I tap on the icons in the top right when I look at friend constellations in home.
@hybrid wedge thank you
And perhaps also to signal to new players which people they can go to who are more likely to offer them help.
I’m not a fan of it either
It’s against how I feel about the core of the game, as it puts the player in a booth of how the company thinks you should play
And if you don’t, you are seen as “bad”
Wow I didn’t realize you can see other people’s badges
You have to stand pretty close to see them
Exactly my thought. This isn’t a ranked mmo
Just give us some bonuses between good friends. Cheaper hearts or something
It’s supposed to be friendship simulator 2019
Like after the ___th heart you send a specific friend, they get a bit cheaper
Hidden MMR that does that would be cool. “You and Person have become good friends! Here is a heart for you both”
Yeah it would be nice if the more you ascended your close friends, the more hearts you could exchange daily 🙂
But generic badges that all can see....ehhhh
Instead of “you are not being good friend to your friends, low rating”
Yes
Would you guys feel better about it if you could toggle the badge on and off once you got it?
“Look at how much of a good friend I am”
Doesn’t make it better imo
It’s worse than flaunting old capes just to look cool
It doesn't appear to be about how "good a friend" you are, but about how helpful you are to new players.
good and bad are ultimately meaningless anyway
I think it’s a good system for newer people to know who to go to directly for friends
I don’t think it’s about good or bad. It seems more like “enjoys being social and playing with others”
But should you have to be?
Or help
what is good for a fish may not be good for a bird
You kind of get a black sheep mentality about those who don’t have the higher badges
No, you shouldn’t have to be. That’s why it doesn’t have an effect on gameplay
“I don’t want to be a friend with someone who doesn’t have a good badge”
I think maybe a precursor to achievements and badges that people can wear?
It has a psychological effect on players imo
I think it’s more of a “who’s happy to show you around” VS who has a more solo approach
hiker - walk 10,000 steps in Sky
But people don’t see if you have a low rating
You can thus tell by those who have no badge.
I saw it the same way @sterile steeple
the badge is probably gonna be toggle on/off imo
you toggle it on when you're willing to help
I sure hope so
Right, but most people don’t have a badge. You wouldn’t make any friends at all if you held out for badge people only
I like the idea of achievements though
Whole thing seems strange. Reward people with actual practical rewards
That’s what I was thinking, Heathr. Toggling on and off would be cool
Achievements don’t sound that bad
maybe your favorite achievment could show up as a badge if you want
It can give the player something else to do if they’re bored
Not having a badge isn’t a bad thing. Just like not having all 9 wedges or elder hair isn’t a bad thing
Achievements sound like a fun way to spice things up to get away from the grind
maybe earn stuff from achievements but then that's fancy quests
i think having a badge from an achievement would probably be enough
I enjoy achievement hunting in other games so i'm a bit biased, but usually achievable achievements are fun
Give 100 hearts to friends - reward: x20 hearts
I like the achievements idea. Friendship rating is weird because they would measure how you interact with people.. it feels wrong. I don’t want someone to tell me I’m being a bad friend just because I play the game my own way.
Or a good one for that matter!
I wonder if instead of "rewarding" a player with the option to toggle a badge on/off, it could just be an option for all players who've found every spirit/completed Eden to toggle on when they are in the mood to guide newbies
How do you see achievements as bad kanpai
That would be cool, too @sterile steeple
I'm curious too, how would achievements be bad?
Imo it’s a good way to add things to do
I agree with a "I can help" signpost for everyone would also be good
You are doing good for a clearly purpose?
Achievements, as in any game, are optional
Something to indicate “I’m available to help right now”
even if they haven't completed all the levels
“Lit a candle 10,000 times” Earn a Heart
Like you stop giving hearts if you got the gift 100 hearts achievement?
Same-
Lol!
"PLEASE COME WITH ME"
seems intimidating lol
I'm pretty sure someone will do that
"YOU ARE GOING TO BE HELPED WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT"
If they made a signpost like that as a carry item, I would 100% do it 😂😂😂
@dire rover I think 100 candles - 1 heart, 1000 candles - 10 hearts,
10,000 candles = 20 hearts
Bahahahaha
Like the genies in apple store, "ask me for help!" "i can help you!"
@brazen flicker only if we can add sign dancing
Yessss
Imagine with a friendship rating, to improve it you have players literally harassing others to “help them” in order to increase their rating, in hope of getting#.. something
Face a krill x amount of times- x heart (s)
God i love krill
With how many candles you light up.. 20 hearts seems a bit much to me. It doesn’t take long
Idk some ideas
i'm not sure if achievements should give hearts though
Maybe a single heart or a large amount of candles
I think tgc would rather reward candles
it would make more sense to give candles, so you can give/get hearts
Like they do with dailies
maybe social achievements earn hearts
the krill gave me nightmares LMAO
non-social ones earn candles
Exactly- candles so can give hearts
@rich wolf they used to have it
hearts are a reward for forging friendships with people, you know?
you earn hearts with shcial achievements
did you guys hear about my cape idea yesterday?
Krill watching is my favourite thing gfhdjs the closer i can get, the better
antigravity cape
That being said, since my wifi is iffy rn and discord is lagging for me
achievements would be great imo
i love that idea but that'd be broken lol
it'd be like an antigravity spell but with a cape
oh lol i'm dumb, i thought you meant infinite flight
we have plenty of spell/items
do only beta players get umbrellas?
It would be cool if there were capes that look like monarch butterfly wings 
we need an item that can toggle glow
Gosh! i saw a couple of amazing fake cape designs the other day and one was butterfly wings!
I'd loooveeee more unique cape designs
the seasonal umbrella and cape are gonna glow
both in shape and pattern
@edgy badge for now the umbrella is only available in beta, but that’s because we’re testing them before it gets released on live!
They should hold a cape design contest tbh and whomever wins gets it implemented
i mean the glow spell specifically
I wonder if the glowing items actually make decent light sources
that turns you into a lightbulb
Guys it’s not letting me die in Eden in the beta :((
Are you respawning there or just not dying?
It took me forever to die last night. I forgot to report that. Ty for the reminder
Bro if a seasonal event that’s similar to Halloween ever comes out, I want a ghost cape-
Bat wings
I want krill in the skies surrounding eden ... that'd be fun
I saw one on twitter
i really am hoping for a holiday event
I want more krill :)
maybe coinciding with the current season just shorter
Bat wings as a cape. Or no cape but you fly around on a broom 😂
bird cape
And you can recharge energy by running
they have bird cape
Imagine a song that subdues Krill temporarily 🤔
it's in winter season
look in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived
Wait theyre called krill
Is the ultimate gift just going to be the quest giver mask?
oh
Krill c a l l
Officially, they’re Dark Dragons. But we usually call them krill
That
Evil shrimps
@exotic atlas if it is it's a little underwhelming compared to last season
I've loved them since the start, but the dumb mongrels always get me when i fly above them
Crabs
Crabs
i like that
I believe the official name for them is "Davids"
In short: The ocean is mean and so is everything that comes from it
Oh that gives me an idea
@burnt finch my thoughts exactly lol
I almost spit out my water
we can carry crabs
Mantas aren’t mean tho
When you said "davids"
Ah right i forget they're mantas and not just funky birds
carry them around to light up places
portable candles
So you carry around the crabs
I hope they implement a purpose to being able to pick them up lol
to the light up places
i'll get the ultimate reward of this season even if it is that basic mask, it's just no deer mask you know?
They turn red if you hold them over a flame, I think
maybe the crabs underbelly glows
I love the deer mask
i need the capes that are fluffy at the ends
So much
Yeah it is a lot plainer compared to the deer mask, especially considering that most of the masks this season aren’t at the end of the shop tree but rather near the beginning
also whats with people being super short sometimes
i originally thought the umbrella was the ultimate reward
i come across small children and it was super weird
william wallace mask
Chibis!!
wait what
@gaunt comet i'm sorry i frightened you
Chibi mask or shrink spell
Umbrella as the ultimate reward makes sense but also ahhhhh I’m glad I don’t have to grind too much for it
what
lol i'm joking
Chibi. What the heck autocorrect
it's the chibi mask
forest, hide and seek, 20 hearts
I hope they emphasize that the seasonal umbrella and capes glow
Whoa Im learning so much
On the contrary to all the short people running around here, im usually taller than everyone i meet ingame
Oof
The grind is tough, yeah
i'm suffering from success over here
I dont even know how to get them
Best option is to find some heart trading buddies
i can't gain any candles because i spent them all on getting my friends hearts ;;
help a noob
You can buy some hearts from spirits. But otherwise you’ll need friends to gift them to you
I do that
Like i went back through to find more lost children and i found that you can buy them
i've used up my founders cape candles
I’m 5 hearts away from the chibi mask in live can’t waiT
Same here Heathr. So broke rn
Just send hearts to friends in game and hope they send them back to you
Begging for hearts is against server rules I think?
Ohp
@gaunt comet Be aware that it's against our server rules to solicit for hearts
my bad
