#beta-discussion | Sky: Children of the Light | Page 377

lone olive Aug 25, 2019, 2:39 AM

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I'm glad I got my $15 refunded and encouraged my friends to do the same, because whatever TGC's smoking when they think this stuff up must be pricey.

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 2:40 AM

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id never send a heart to someone if i hadnt been able to talk to them a lot and agree to trade

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 2:40 AM

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@placid kiln That's your self-selection for participation in Sky's community. Each player determines those for themselves.

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 2:40 AM

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nor would i unlock chat unless its someone i know

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i know many say the same though

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 2:41 AM

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^
nor would i unlock chat unless its someone i know
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Again, that is normal and healthy, I think.

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 2:41 AM

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candles can be very time consuming to earn and its not worth sending to people unless youre able to agree on a trade imk

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imo*

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 2:42 AM

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anyone ready for a copypasta

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 2:42 AM

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this isnt just my mindset, you can see many other players agree

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 2:42 AM

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about this whole thing

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alright

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gonna talk about some of the arguments about the new update.

"you had to upgrade to hug to begin with to send hearts"
probably should have patched it in beta then before live release.
"cost of hearts isn't changing"
you're messing with heart trading/competitive part of sky. catering to the majority. it's a technically yes but actually no situation, some people may want to use three candles to unlock hug.
"they're not making hearts harder to get"
technically no, but actually yes. heart trading became much harder, meaning you have to trade with a clique over randos. you're forcing small groups of people that don't go out of it to get hearts. maybe for people who play the way it was intended, it isn't getting harder. but for a good chunk of people, it just did.
"nobody heart trades"
hi, i am in a community that is just as active as this one. lots of heart trades happen daily. congrats, you've just proved your ignorance.
"this isn't killing the game"
yes, it isn't killing the game. but it is messing with a way of sky. oh, and the range of getting hearts just increased. 2.2k to 3.9k. maybe even more if you don't heart trade.

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My point is that TGC's community doesn't have to be the most popular or biggest. Their vision may differ from the majority of folks who could be players. That's not a failure. A failure would be to hold true to their vision.

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 2:44 AM

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if im being blatantly honest, all this is doing is making cosmetics harder to gt

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 2:44 AM

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^^

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 2:45 AM

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no one wants to create a game that no one wants to play

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 2:45 AM

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heart trading was a culture and now it's ruined

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 2:45 AM

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if they dont want to hear from their fanbase it’d be their own death

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 2:46 AM

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no i think people here just hate heart trading like it's a disease

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@placid kiln Again, "no one" doesn't equate to a modest, welcoming, friendly, even loving community.

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 2:46 AM

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apprently

lone olive Aug 25, 2019, 2:46 AM

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how much of a moron do you have to be to flagellate yourself in defense of an objectively awful decision by TGC lol

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 2:46 AM

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because some scammers ruined it for everyone

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 2:46 AM

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it doesnt sound like many people agree with this change

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time and money goes into making a game, i dont think they want it to be for nothing

lone olive Aug 25, 2019, 2:47 AM

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no one does except the 5 TGC orbiters who deluded themselves into whatever "vision" mumbo jumbo TGC is spewing

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like it's a video game it's not that deep lol

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 2:47 AM

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Plenty agree. Maybe more disagree, but they demonstrate they never were interested in TGC's vision in the 1st place.

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 2:48 AM

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you make it sound like this is a religion instead of an app

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 2:48 AM

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I can't control what anyone hears welcoming community to be.

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 2:48 AM

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people want to play games that give them outcomes, point blank

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wanting to be able to earn cosmetics in a game is not going against any sort of vision

hybrid wedge Aug 25, 2019, 2:50 AM

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@lone olive please do not call your fellow community members names. Debate ideas, critique ideas, but please don’t attack fellow players.

lone olive Aug 25, 2019, 2:50 AM

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earning cosmetics and emotes is literally the only other thing to do in this game besides re-playing the same levels over and over

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I'd rather lobotomize myself then do the latter

desert sierra Aug 25, 2019, 2:51 AM

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@lone olive , no

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im sorry you have no friends and you are nonsocial on a VIDEOGAME. I'm an introvert, and I can still have fun playing this game

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 2:51 AM

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"debating ideas"

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one time i did that

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 2:51 AM

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my biggest point is that although this is a very beautiful game without the cosmetics, people will inevitably get bored and stop playing if they have nothing to earn

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 2:51 AM

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i got this

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📎 iSGRolYAAAAASUVORK5CYII.png

lusty light Aug 25, 2019, 2:52 AM

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Guys, please keep this discussion civil

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 2:52 AM

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hey man dont say people have no friends

lone olive Aug 25, 2019, 2:52 AM

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lol

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 2:52 AM

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thats just being plain mean and rude

strange patrol Aug 25, 2019, 2:52 AM

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^

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 2:52 AM

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that was the time where i wondered if exploit abuse was illegal

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 2:53 AM

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no one is insulting those who agree with the change so please dont insult those who dont agree

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 2:53 AM

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anywho

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let's try to be logical people here

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argue with facts

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and not straight up disses

hybrid wedge Aug 25, 2019, 2:53 AM

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Heh, I read that exchange Benji. Alex was being light-hearted (if you’ll pardon the expression)

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 2:53 AM

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ah

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i c

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i took it wrong way

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my bad

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ThinkOwO

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anywho

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my opinion is this

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make more stuff for social people

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and not nerf some cultures

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i feel like in a game like this we should have freedom to do what we do

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 2:54 AM

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my best suggestion would be to have a setting for social or not

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 2:55 AM

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yeah

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 2:55 AM

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one with more players per server and chat on, one with less and no chatting

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 2:55 AM

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they should cater to competitive people

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and more experienced

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because at this point i feel like tgc is trying to make everyone a bit too equal

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ruining heart trading made it seem that way

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because heart trading was tailored to competitive people man

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 2:57 AM

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i feel as though just because not everyone plays the game the way tgc intended doesnt mean they deserve to have their abilities severed

lone olive Aug 25, 2019, 2:57 AM

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seems to me like the way tgc intended us to play was to pony up for $5 candle packs every week with all these restrictions they have

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no thanks lol

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 2:57 AM

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i know some people only go on to collect candles and send hearts, otherwise they wouldnt play at all

strange patrol Aug 25, 2019, 2:58 AM

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if they are making this change to get more money, there's other ways for them to make money that wouldn't harm the community like this

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 2:58 AM

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imo they should nerf season pass

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it's too powerful man

lone olive Aug 25, 2019, 2:58 AM

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considering how awful they were at listening to their previous beta testers, it doesn't look like TGC has that much insight

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:03 AM

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@strange patrol
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if they are making this change to get more money, there's other ways for them to make money that wouldn't harm the community like this
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But they're not. That's the whole point of why this game is different and special.

calm bloom Aug 25, 2019, 3:03 AM

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Yeah

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Infinite ways

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:04 AM

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i think iaps should be fixed

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season pass too op

calm bloom Aug 25, 2019, 3:04 AM

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Why?

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Are you saying it’s too cheap or too expensive?

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:05 AM

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neither

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it's just too op

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seasons in general should be nerfed

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due to how much candles you get from it

lone olive Aug 25, 2019, 3:05 AM

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content-wise it's underwhelming, $10 every season to do some lame quests is boring

calm bloom Aug 25, 2019, 3:05 AM

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But that’s why you are paying for it

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:05 AM

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technically yes

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but actually no

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the equivalent amount of those candles is underwhelming

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in regular candles

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very underwhelming

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which is why seasons in general should be nerfed

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hopefully they are this time around

desert sierra Aug 25, 2019, 3:07 AM

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@spark lance , they are just cosmetics, fucus on the point of the game, to be social. Candle gringing isnt that hard. Heck! Just take 7 minutes to do the two races and get 2 candles! Its the easiest thing ever!

lone olive Aug 25, 2019, 3:07 AM

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I don't even get a candle from the flying race half the time because it's so buggy lol

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 3:08 AM

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2 candles isnt enough for one heart

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why put cosmetics if we arent meant to care about them

desert sierra Aug 25, 2019, 3:08 AM

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because they need money soe way or another

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:08 AM

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@desert sierra "they are just cosmetics"
without a goal
there's no point in playing the game
cosmetics give this goal

strange patrol Aug 25, 2019, 3:08 AM

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@spark lance The game is a wonderful game, that does not prevent it from having flaws. Nothing is perfect, especially when it comes to video game companies. Just because you enjoy a game doesn't mean you have to agree with every single change it makes.

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 3:09 AM

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customizing your character will always be popular in any game

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:09 AM

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it's one of the main goals of many

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and it's also fairly straight forward

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 3:09 AM

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they already make money from people buying season passes and packs i dont think they need people to pay more

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:09 AM

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also it's probably unlikely that it's seven minutes

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you gotta consider the time going home and some cutscenes

lone olive Aug 25, 2019, 3:10 AM

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gotta love the unskippable cutscenes

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:10 AM

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yes i do enjoy them

desert sierra Aug 25, 2019, 3:10 AM

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You have to realize that they put so much money into this game, and they need a profit one way or another if they want to stay in buisness, but that does not mean that they do not care abt they'r players

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:10 AM

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very wholesome

strange patrol Aug 25, 2019, 3:10 AM

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if they want more money, they can make more content that will entice people into spending money to get said content (more cosmetics)

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:10 AM

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what about fixing iaps

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like nerfing seasons so iaps become less underwhelming

lone olive Aug 25, 2019, 3:10 AM

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if they wanted more money they should've picked a more sustainable business model and not release it as a freemium game with whack iaps

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 3:11 AM

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they wont be profiting at all if they make cosmetics near impossible to get without paying because everyone will leave

lone olive Aug 25, 2019, 3:11 AM

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shifting the burden of the game's poor decisions onto players is no bueno tbh

wraith yacht Aug 25, 2019, 3:11 AM

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Actually they're making more money this way

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100%

lone olive Aug 25, 2019, 3:11 AM

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maybe short term, but I doubt it's sustainable

wraith yacht Aug 25, 2019, 3:12 AM

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It's such a popular new business model because it is sustainable long term.

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 3:12 AM

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are they doing this to make a bigger profit, or to make it less about profit? cant have both

wraith yacht Aug 25, 2019, 3:12 AM

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The whole season thing rakes in big bucks for literally every game that's even remotely popular

desert sierra Aug 25, 2019, 3:12 AM

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How bout' this?

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:12 AM

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i've seen dragalia lost trick their players give them money by making them seem generous

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because they are

desert sierra Aug 25, 2019, 3:12 AM

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You are saying that cosmetics are the goal, correct?

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 3:12 AM

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no

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:12 AM

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no i'm saying it's one of the main goals people have

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not necessarily a goal

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but one that many have

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 3:13 AM

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its a big aspect of the game

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:13 AM

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mhmm

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 3:13 AM

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the one think you can actually earn

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:13 AM

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half an island is dedicated to cosmetics

wraith yacht Aug 25, 2019, 3:13 AM

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What else are you playing the game for if its not to max spirits and unlock cosmetics

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Lol

desert sierra Aug 25, 2019, 3:13 AM

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well then, don't you want to work for that goal? It doesnt matter if others have cosmetics, you worked for yours

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 3:13 AM

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the point of the game is its aesthetics, but the cosmetics is a major part

wraith yacht Aug 25, 2019, 3:13 AM

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I guess enjoy the scenery?

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:14 AM

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it's not that

lone olive Aug 25, 2019, 3:14 AM

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well, however long they manage to have a revenue stream I'm glad I won't be apart of it since getting my money refunded :v)

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:14 AM

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it's that the grind is absolutely dumb

strange patrol Aug 25, 2019, 3:14 AM

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If it doesn't matter if others have cosmetics, then why make it harder to get them

wraith yacht Aug 25, 2019, 3:14 AM

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Shots fired

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 3:14 AM

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if it takes weeks to earn one item no one will want to

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:14 AM

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and that this update just makes it sad

lone olive Aug 25, 2019, 3:14 AM

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tfw got the season pass for free but it still sucks

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:14 AM

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i play so i get to talk to new people

main ivy Aug 25, 2019, 3:14 AM

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On the question of why it has to be IAP at all to begin with: They were a bit in between a rock and a hard place. According to interviews, they released on mobile because they wanted as many people as possible to have a chance to play. Phones are the most widely owned gaming device in the world. But games you have to pay up front for die pretty fast on the app store, even the really highest quality ones struggle with a price tag of only $2. With those factors taken into account, they didn't have much wiggle room on IAP or no.

(wooh this is moving fast, by the time I typed this the original thought I was responding to got long buried haha)

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:15 AM

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opinion on that message

lone olive Aug 25, 2019, 3:15 AM

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they should've waited like 3 months for the game to actually be in a finished, bug-minimal state and release it on Apple Arcade

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:15 AM

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i would have paid $2 over a $10 iap

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Talk is cheap.

hybrid wedge Aug 25, 2019, 3:15 AM

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Apple Arcade doesn’t allow games that have to be played online.

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 3:15 AM

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talking to people without sitting at a bench costs candles which with the way this is going looks like itll probably ending up costing more

desert sierra Aug 25, 2019, 3:15 AM

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yes, but most wouldn't

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:15 AM

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that makes sense

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i wouldn't spend money on a $2 game

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but i would spend it on a $10 pass

wraith yacht Aug 25, 2019, 3:16 AM

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How in the world would a 2 dollar price tag pay for the whole production of this game

strange patrol Aug 25, 2019, 3:16 AM

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I like the idea of it being a free game with IAP

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:16 AM

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good point

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but maybe nerf the pass and buff the other iaps

desert sierra Aug 25, 2019, 3:16 AM

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little kids that want to play the game aren't going to pay for it, they want to play it for free.

main ivy Aug 25, 2019, 3:16 AM

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Biscuit- exactly. Even at a SUPER low price like that people wouldn't be buying, and that wouldn't fund the game anyway. Raise it to a more reasonable up front cost and the game would get laughed out of the app store on price tag alone though.

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 3:17 AM

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im much more inclined to buy things for a game i know i like than to buy a game that i dont know if ill even like

lone olive Aug 25, 2019, 3:17 AM

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what exactly would I be paying for when a large chunk of the game is just re-hashed Journey textures and models lol

wraith yacht Aug 25, 2019, 3:17 AM

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Hey, I ain't complaining about IAP

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I've already put in like 20 bucks

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Lmao

desert sierra Aug 25, 2019, 3:17 AM

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Actually @spark lance , i agree with you a bit

wraith yacht Aug 25, 2019, 3:17 AM

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Don't change H4H trading tho

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2 cents

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:17 AM

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lol

hybrid wedge Aug 25, 2019, 3:17 AM

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I really wish it could have been pay up front. But I knew based on Journey that this game would be worth it. Most people in the App Store wouldn’t have heard about it and would have scrolled right by if they had to pay $2/$5/$10/$15.

main ivy Aug 25, 2019, 3:17 AM

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I think part of the problem is that most app store games are... really bad. No one wants to risk paying up front for any game when 99/100 of the games on the app store are terrible.

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:18 AM

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good point

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It's a free game, so complaining about its price-structure when there's literally zero forced IAP is, shall we say, rich.

desert sierra Aug 25, 2019, 3:18 AM

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bow about nerf the pass, but make it longer,so there is more grind for it, but you get the same reward

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 3:18 AM

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there are lots of things people would love to be added or changed and heart trading simply isnt one of then

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:18 AM

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"so there is more grind for it"

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that just turned me off

lone olive Aug 25, 2019, 3:18 AM

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@spark lance you should understand the difference between explicitly forced IAP and implicitly forced IAP tbh

main ivy Aug 25, 2019, 3:18 AM

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@lone olive re-hashed journey textures and models? Which textures and models are from Journey? I get that the games are similar in several ways, but I can't think of any re-use of old assets.

strange patrol Aug 25, 2019, 3:19 AM

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You can still complain about IAP for a free game... cough league of legends cough

desert sierra Aug 25, 2019, 3:19 AM

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it would add mode time for progression

lone olive Aug 25, 2019, 3:19 AM

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yes TGC doesn't have a gun to my head to buy their crap but the game's grind sucks enough to make me consider it

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Golden wasteland is full of them

desert sierra Aug 25, 2019, 3:19 AM

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How about put a storyline for each pass?

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:19 AM

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no i didn't mean that make the time longer

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make the seasons have less candles

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 3:19 AM

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i think there should be ways to actually earn candles other than walking around and touching them or burning plants

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:19 AM

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but the costs of the cosmetics are lower

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by the same rate

desert sierra Aug 25, 2019, 3:20 AM

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It would make it much more fun, and worth it to get the pass.

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 3:20 AM

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so the amount of candles you get is actually based on your playing the game

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:20 AM

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that would be the case

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@lone olive "implicitly forced" slow clap

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if there was more content

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and we're all just having like three convos at once

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lol

wraith yacht Aug 25, 2019, 3:20 AM

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I think TGC should just make the feet of the characters like 20x bigger

strange patrol Aug 25, 2019, 3:20 AM

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this chat is a mess lol

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yes

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that will solve everything

lone olive Aug 25, 2019, 3:20 AM

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I wanna see my character's toes

strange patrol Aug 25, 2019, 3:21 AM

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i want my screen to be nothing but feet

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 3:21 AM

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give us dance emotes

wraith yacht Aug 25, 2019, 3:21 AM

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Yeah what the heck TGC where the toes at

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Fortnite dances in sky

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:21 AM

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let's all focus on one topic

main ivy Aug 25, 2019, 3:21 AM

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Instead of clouds, and endless sea of feet

wraith yacht Aug 25, 2019, 3:21 AM

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Come on guys we can do this

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:21 AM

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how about

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dune hats

hybrid wedge Aug 25, 2019, 3:21 AM

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Before the launch there were many versions of the candle economy and experiments with different rates of candle collecting and pricing. They gathered and analyzed analytics of the game play, and changed it from fewer candles with lower prices to what we have now.

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:21 AM

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makes sense

placid kiln Aug 25, 2019, 3:21 AM

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goodnight

strange patrol Aug 25, 2019, 3:21 AM

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"endless sea of feet" 😷

lone olive Aug 25, 2019, 3:21 AM

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that doesn't seem to line up with lots of old beta players saying how TGC straight up ignored their feedback

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:21 AM

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but the grind isn't 3-6 months

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it's way more

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In my opinion, the version of the economy directly after the reset pre launch was the best economy

hybrid wedge Aug 25, 2019, 3:22 AM

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Feet...um...boy.

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😂

strange patrol Aug 25, 2019, 3:22 AM

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sky: children of feet

main ivy Aug 25, 2019, 3:23 AM

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Feet: Children of foot

wraith yacht Aug 25, 2019, 3:23 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/writethatdown-spongebob-gif-5313946

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:23 AM

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sky: children of milk

strange patrol Aug 25, 2019, 3:23 AM

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foot: foot foot foot

hybrid wedge Aug 25, 2019, 3:23 AM

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New Adventure Pass: Season of Odor Eaters

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:23 AM

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@wraith yacht links don't work

main ivy Aug 25, 2019, 3:23 AM

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You can always click the link

wraith yacht Aug 25, 2019, 3:23 AM

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Write that down write that down

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:23 AM

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good point

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but i'm too lazy

hybrid wedge Aug 25, 2019, 3:23 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:23 AM

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i should repost the gif

main ivy Aug 25, 2019, 3:24 AM

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Cue the song "My pal foot foot"
(actual song. It's... something else)

wraith yacht Aug 25, 2019, 3:24 AM

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I've derailed this entire conversation

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You're welcome

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:24 AM

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ohno

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📎 unknown.png

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there

wraith yacht Aug 25, 2019, 3:24 AM

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Ty

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:24 AM

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np

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i gotchu

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anywho

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i feel like tgc should advertise the amount that constellations should be finished a lil higher

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definitely higher than 3-6 months

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you need godlike friends to get that amount

main ivy Aug 25, 2019, 3:26 AM

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Are you sure? The game hasn't even been out for 3-6 months, there's no way we as players without access to economy data can accurately estimate the time yet.

hybrid wedge Aug 25, 2019, 3:26 AM

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I’m still thinking about feet. Shoe cosmetics that people have been suggesting... sThink

strange patrol Aug 25, 2019, 3:26 AM

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i am going to go eat a brownie and sleep, it was nice debating with u all, have good night

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:27 AM

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oh i meant that 3:1 ratio

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walkin up the prarie with some new yeezys

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i was assuming that lol

hybrid wedge Aug 25, 2019, 3:27 AM

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@strange patrol I do hope you mean the kind of brownies that are a confection baked in an oven 😅 sLUL

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:27 AM

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inb4 you say ratio doesn't guarantee a heart lol

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but i genuinely think you wouldn't get a heart for free

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so i think the 3:1 ratio would be safe to assume

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so basically what i did for this math

strange patrol Aug 25, 2019, 3:28 AM

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@hybrid wedge no its raw brownie batter

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:28 AM

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was add up all the candles needed

strange patrol Aug 25, 2019, 3:28 AM

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straight up liquid

hybrid wedge Aug 25, 2019, 3:28 AM

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Ooo, excellent choice.

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:28 AM

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and the hearts needed times three

strange patrol Aug 25, 2019, 3:28 AM

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lmao

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okie goodnight all

dire rover Aug 25, 2019, 3:28 AM

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I mean technically the winter clothes have shoes

hybrid wedge Aug 25, 2019, 3:28 AM

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Goodnight 🌌

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:28 AM

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then assume the average 10 candles per run

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to get a lil over six months

hybrid wedge Aug 25, 2019, 3:28 AM

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Yeah, but those are boots.

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:29 AM

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aren't boots shoes

hybrid wedge Aug 25, 2019, 3:29 AM

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And they come with goofy pants.

strange patrol Aug 25, 2019, 3:29 AM

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boots are gloves for your feet

hybrid wedge Aug 25, 2019, 3:29 AM

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All boots are shoes but not all shoes are boots meditate

strange patrol Aug 25, 2019, 3:29 AM

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ok sorry i had to gegt that in there

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:29 AM

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sounds like the tuna thing

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it went along the lines of

hybrid wedge Aug 25, 2019, 3:30 AM

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I draw my inspiration from varied sources.

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:30 AM

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you can fish a tuna

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but you can't tune a fish

hybrid wedge Aug 25, 2019, 3:30 AM

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🎶

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:30 AM

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next bug be like

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You can tune a fish but not easily

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stacking instruments

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you can play more than one instrument

main ivy Aug 25, 2019, 3:31 AM

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@hybrid wedge I know skykids are barefoot and should probably stay that way, free and all, but... My gosh do I love rain boots. Imagine a sky kid in oversized rubber rain boots. So cute.

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:31 AM

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godlike skills

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sky kid rain poncho

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what about

main ivy Aug 25, 2019, 3:31 AM

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Gosh yes, so cute

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:31 AM

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invisible capes

hybrid wedge Aug 25, 2019, 3:31 AM

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Tuna fish make poor shoes.

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:31 AM

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wait

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that came out wrong

hybrid wedge Aug 25, 2019, 3:31 AM

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_>

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:31 AM

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oh god

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shoot

main ivy Aug 25, 2019, 3:32 AM

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I sorta miss the capeless glitch where you could run around wearing your sky pajamas but no cape. It was super buggy and confusing, but it was also adorable.

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:32 AM

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my favorite stuff is out of bounds stuff

hybrid wedge Aug 25, 2019, 3:32 AM

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Especially when the krill couldn’t kill us sLUL

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:32 AM

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hitboxes are janky lol

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i love it

main ivy Aug 25, 2019, 3:32 AM

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Maybe I'll post some capeless pictures in screenshots!

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:33 AM

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I may have a video of out of bounds in aviary

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out of bounds glitch, only found in the sky discord

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i can get out of bounds by pressing the "Leave Server" button!

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wait

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ThinkOwO

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turns out i didnt record it

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big f

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you know what would happen if there were randomized levels

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But you could glitch under aviary but going to the side of the isle tunnel and running down it while still holding down

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moreout of bounds stuff

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funny shenanigans

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what if every level for the first time was linear

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but you had a choice after that to do randomized for a slightly higher reward

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randomized but still somewhat on the same format as the current

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no when i say randomized

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i mean like randomized terrain and stuff

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guess i worded that wrong

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maybe kinda in chunks it would randomize

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ah

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i c

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yeah that works

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i was thinking along the lines of soul knight

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less predictability makes more replayability

main ivy Aug 25, 2019, 3:41 AM

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They'd have to make like a whole new engine and system and everything to randomize it like that though. Basically redesign the game from the ground up.

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I like procedural terrain a lot, but Sky isn't really build with that in mind.

rich wolf Aug 25, 2019, 3:44 AM

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maybe the idea of a heart "economy" is the wrong idea. tying social interaction to an economy is asking for trouble. Maybe social interaction should be its own reward.
we see this in non-economic ways. 8 person locks, areas made more accessible with more people

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etc.

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 5:25 AM

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Ooh I’ve always wanted to see the Aviary :O Will they keep in this next test run?

arctic pecan Aug 25, 2019, 9:57 AM

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hopefully !

hollow compass Aug 25, 2019, 10:35 AM

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In the last Twitch stream they explained that part of the reason for removal of Aviary was that is was “too costly” on the game engine (as I understood it).

stoic badger Aug 25, 2019, 11:30 AM

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Mmm, the game splits up an area into different level pieces so your device doesn’t have to run it all at once. Its also why the areas can feel small sometimes, although thankfully modern devices have fast storage so when you do exit a level, the next one can be loaded quickly.

Aviary was quite a wide area with a lot of background details and other smaller game elements as I understand it.

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@main ivy Yeah, at this point with procedural generation you can’t do the kind of precise artistic engineering they’re doing, to bake in a mood or feeling you really have to plot and pace everything out.

dire escarp Aug 25, 2019, 11:40 AM

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Sorry in advance for the wall of text, but have been thinking on the trading hearts problem and welcome thoughts.

TL;DR version: expensive hearts for inactive friends, cheap hearts for active players together.

That said, let the wall begin.

A better solution, in my opinion anyway, is to discount hearts to only be 1 candle or something, when playing together and a checkmark is passed, such as both unlocking a star / spirit together, or after a period of say 10 minutes playing with another person. Or maybe even a "busking" heart, I. E. Can gift hearts to someone playing music at a similar rate to unlocked friend.

Not saying this isn't also exploitable, just it would drive the more wanted behaviour that it sounds like TGC are looking to drive. And so players will want to play together as it means more chances for hearts.

So as a thought up crib sheet for balance discussion:
⚫New friend: 6 🕯 = 1 ♥ (to unlock hug as TGC suggests to avoid, what they consider the behaviour they want to remove)

⚫Existing friend with hug: 3 🕯 = 1 ♥ (again as suggested by TGC)

⚫Any other player currently playing music in same instance: 3 🕯 = 1 ♥

⚫ Friend at any level after checkpoint reached (10 minutes play star unlocked etc): 1 🕯 = 1 ♥

I welcome any thoughts and feedback or balance ideas, but if I understand what TGC wants to drive in behaviour, this should do it.

hollow compass Aug 25, 2019, 1:30 PM

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Definitely interesting suggestions, in my opinion.

rich wolf Aug 25, 2019, 2:19 PM

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maybe friendship could be unlocked based on a timer OR if you want to spend candles to do it quickly

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Like

be friends for 7 days = unlock high five
be friends for 14 days = unlock hug

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unlock hug for candles (and not wait 14 days)

hollow compass Aug 25, 2019, 2:22 PM

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I dont know if that's practical, considering you may not want to be that close friends with everyone.

rich wolf Aug 25, 2019, 2:36 PM

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what detrement would there be to being close friends with people you friend?

hollow compass Aug 25, 2019, 3:20 PM

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there may be reasons

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I personally prefer to develop a friendship over time and on my own accord

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 3:22 PM

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@main ivy meant like just randomized levels in general

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of course not everything can be randomized

lost burrow Aug 25, 2019, 4:42 PM

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So how does the beta work? If I were to somehow get in the beta would My character just reset?

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Would I start like a brand new character and have to go through the whole thing again?

lusty light Aug 25, 2019, 4:50 PM

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Yes because beta and live aren’t linked

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They’re separate profiles with separate progresses

strange patrol Aug 25, 2019, 4:50 PM

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So the live account wont be wiped or anything right?

lusty light Aug 25, 2019, 4:51 PM

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Nope

lost burrow Aug 25, 2019, 5:09 PM

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And if we are in the beta that means we won’t be able to use our live account until the beta is over right? @lusty light

lusty light Aug 25, 2019, 5:10 PM

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No you can play both at the same time

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They aren’t linked at all

lost burrow Aug 25, 2019, 5:10 PM

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Oh okay got it

steep radish Aug 25, 2019, 6:25 PM

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🅱eter

hard pebble Aug 25, 2019, 10:08 PM

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So the beta is a separate app?

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The link will be posted here so that means it will be full to sign up very quick..right?

spark lance Aug 25, 2019, 10:39 PM

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@hard pebble only takes a few clicks

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anywho i gotta thank all the community moderators and shepherds about yesterday

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convo was nice

spark lance Aug 26, 2019, 12:22 AM

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Is IOS 13 B & IPad OS B , supported by the sky beta?

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people say no

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it depends what you mean by supported

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is is capable of running it

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ye

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is it a guarantee there might be something wrong about it

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no

dire rover Aug 26, 2019, 12:38 AM

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It is working on iPad OS beta and iOS 13 beta.

Issues including rendering bugs, 3-finger multi touch doesn't work because of 3-finger copy/paste being a problem so playing instruments is wonky.

spark lance Aug 26, 2019, 12:44 AM

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You’re right, thanks

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@spark lance yeah thanks , i meant by supported: it’s running the beta software already

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I remember when I downloaded the game on the beta software,on the first month of playing the game 🤦🏼‍♂️,, hard to imagine

lusty light Aug 26, 2019, 12:53 AM

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The rendering bug isn’t an iOS 13 issue @dire rover I heard someone had it on 12.4

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It’s a bug with 60 FPS/high def mode

dire rover Aug 26, 2019, 12:54 AM

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Oho really

lusty light Aug 26, 2019, 12:54 AM

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Yes I don’t have the bug anymore after doing back to default settings

dire rover Aug 26, 2019, 12:54 AM

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That reminds me how I normally play in low def 30 fps on my iphone because the screen is so small, but I go 60fps on my ipad, or high def

short furnace Aug 26, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Man I wish I was in the beta. :T Must have missed the reinvite link haha, oh well

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no wait im big idiot link’s not out yet. lmao nevermind

steep crystal Aug 26, 2019, 2:20 AM

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love that for you

dire rover Aug 26, 2019, 6:18 AM

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The beta currently has no season though so it's just the "base game" if you're thinking about content

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There's daily quests but that's about it

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and it's just the same as the seasonal quests

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"go and do this"

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"wave to someone"

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Imagine if they threw in an algebra math problem

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That would be sick

rugged kayak Aug 26, 2019, 6:33 AM

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i would cry if tgc made us do math

hollow compass Aug 26, 2019, 6:57 AM

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1+1=4 crabs

arctic pecan Aug 26, 2019, 6:59 AM

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bruh i terrible at math

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don’t make me think about it

languid mantle Aug 26, 2019, 7:01 AM

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Beta players really out there making this game get the “education” tag

dire rover Aug 26, 2019, 8:50 AM

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In the future economy of Sky, we can always be sure that 1 crab = 1 crab

gusty sluice Aug 26, 2019, 11:44 AM

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I disagree! Rainforest crab doesn’t equal to wasteland crab!

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Rainforest ones look much more delicious

tired lichen Aug 26, 2019, 12:25 PM

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I think we are losing access to TestFlight tomorrow, and then getting the link next week

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*losing access to sky in TestFlight

hollow compass Aug 26, 2019, 12:34 PM

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or, you know, you could read #beta-announcements

gusty sluice Aug 26, 2019, 12:47 PM

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Something came to me that... weather things will be better if developers claimed that no rewards is on the way for new beta?

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I hope less people joining for reward...

vapid drum Aug 26, 2019, 12:49 PM

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There won’t be a reward

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That was a one time thing

gusty sluice Aug 26, 2019, 12:52 PM

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I have seen someone said any other reward is also great here...

vapid drum Aug 26, 2019, 1:05 PM

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Omg , yes , I’ve seen those comments 😒 I play beta cause I wanna know what’s coming and it’s nice and quiet. If I can help tgc along the way by making photo/ video of things that are wrong with that version then it’s my pleasure

hollow compass Aug 26, 2019, 1:06 PM

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Yes, I do wish TGC would stress that, so that people actually joined in earnest because they wanted to help make the game better. Or even if they do plan to give out something, it should be a secret until it happens, so that people don't build up these crazy expectations.

gusty vapor Aug 26, 2019, 1:16 PM

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@hollow compass well I was confused about the announcement that’s why I asked on the beta discussion

hollow compass Aug 26, 2019, 1:18 PM

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@gusty vapor I'm sorry, what is this in reference to?

gusty vapor Aug 26, 2019, 1:20 PM

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I just was confused about the wipe out and the release of the beta link.

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Are they meant to be happening on separate days? So the wipeout tomorrow and the beta link somewhere around September 3rd ?

spark lance Aug 26, 2019, 2:07 PM

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Its more just youre getting kicked out of the beta sometime tomorrow and the new beta link will be posted sometime the week of the third

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technically three finger touch isn’t a bug, it’s a problem on apple’s end @dire rover

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you could probably fix it by disabling it but i haven’t seen where to do it

hollow compass Aug 26, 2019, 2:46 PM

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@gusty vapor I don't quite understand what was confusing. There is no other way to put it than what was already in the announcement, which @spark lance basically reiterated. But I hope that cleared things up? 🤔 😅

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Has anyone else been doing a "final" round and saying goodbye today?

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Luckily, I bumped into an old friend I hadn't been able to reconnect with in Live. So that was great!

spark lance Aug 26, 2019, 2:56 PM

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why would we be doing a final round and saying goodbye?

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it’s only an access wipe, not a profile wipe

languid mantle Aug 26, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Maybe they're considering the possibility of not making it in beta again

hollow compass Aug 26, 2019, 4:18 PM

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^^

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I am also considering not joining at all, because maybe that is a good thing for me

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but yes, it does say "final" as opposed to just final 😉

gusty vapor Aug 26, 2019, 4:42 PM

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@hollow compass lmao I’m sorry I was confused about it. I just wanted some reassurance that’s all

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Jeez

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Also have I done something wrong? Sorry if my question bothered you so much, you kinda gave me attitude from the start

spark lance Aug 26, 2019, 4:49 PM

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@gusty vapor It’s always ok to ask questions about the beta here. hug

gusty vapor Aug 26, 2019, 4:54 PM

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@spark lance thank you, I was just confused as to why they seemed rude to me.

hollow compass Aug 26, 2019, 5:02 PM

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I'm sorry if I came off as rude. That wasn't my intention. I just thought that the information was as clear as it could be and I didn't know how else to explain it.

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A lot of people on this server seem to not go to the obvious first source of information, such as news or updates channels. Instead the same questions are posted over and over. It gets a little tiring, that's all.

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Are you planning to join? 🙂

arctic galleon Aug 26, 2019, 6:02 PM

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You can’t curse in the server

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This place is family-friendly at most @gusty vapor

hollow compass Aug 26, 2019, 6:06 PM

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My first language isn’t English either.

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If my referring you to an official news channel upsets you, I really don’t know how I’m supposed to help you. I’m really sorry.

gusty vapor Aug 26, 2019, 6:09 PM

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My bad @arctic galleon

arctic galleon Aug 26, 2019, 6:09 PM

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It’s fine

gusty vapor Aug 26, 2019, 6:09 PM

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No it was just how you answered me

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It just seemed rude to me

hollow compass Aug 26, 2019, 6:10 PM

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You don’t need to delete comments. Just edit out whatever is deemed improper.

gusty vapor Aug 26, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Well I’m new to discord so I don’t know

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I wasn’t offended that u referred me to official news channel

hollow compass Aug 26, 2019, 6:11 PM

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If you’re on your phone long press the message to bring up edit, on computer click the three dots to the right.

gusty vapor Aug 26, 2019, 6:15 PM

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It’s alright I guess. Sorry for asking such a bothersome question

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I’ll read carefully next time

hollow compass Aug 26, 2019, 6:15 PM

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I have no idea then, sorry. I re-read my replies and don’t understand what was offensive, but I’ll take your word for it and apologise. Maybe I’m just bad with words today.

gusty vapor Aug 26, 2019, 6:24 PM

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I asked my friends too in case I was overthinking your responses. And yeah it did seem rude, it was quiet unnecessary to mention it’s clear as day what the announcement is saying. Like I’m sorry if I seem that dumb or incapable of understanding it to you. It’s fine though if you were just bothered by my tiring question. Would have been best to just ignore my question.

hollow compass Aug 26, 2019, 6:31 PM

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ok

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I suppose we have different interpretations of it. That happens on the internet. Perhaps it is more about you than it is about me. ☺

gusty vapor Aug 26, 2019, 7:27 PM

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Yeah, it’s fine if it wasn’t your intention to come off as rude. I’m sorry I was so bothered by it too. I don’t mean to make a deal out of it, sorry again no hard feelings.

spark lance Aug 26, 2019, 7:35 PM

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Let’s move on from this conversation. If there’s anything else, I might suggest DMs 😁

orchid nexus Aug 26, 2019, 7:50 PM

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Or meet in-game and hug it out

vernal python Aug 26, 2019, 8:13 PM

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Or EMP everything

orchid nexus Aug 26, 2019, 8:26 PM

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if by "EMP" you mean "empathize," then yes. Let's empathize with everything! blobhearts

tender stream Aug 26, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Is the beta out already?

spark lance Aug 26, 2019, 9:35 PM

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@tender stream The beta has been ongoing since it started in January 2018, and will continue to be used for testing and feedback. You can read more about the latest in the #beta-announcements and #news channels.

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If those channels don't answer your questions, feel free to ask here.

gusty abyss Aug 26, 2019, 10:59 PM

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I wanna know if the number of beta participants is limited or not? I really wanna joinnnn!!!😝😝

spark lance Aug 26, 2019, 10:59 PM

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Its limited at around 7k I believe

gusty abyss Aug 26, 2019, 11:01 PM

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Ahhhh~ okkk! I will keep my eye on the beta update channel!! Thank u!@spark lance

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 12:36 AM

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I really want to join the new beta testing, but am kind of confused as to when the link will be put out. Is it tomorrow, or Sep. 3, when I can sign up?

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Tomorrow 9/27 current beta tester access is wiped, so no one can log into the beta app. During the week of 9/3 a link to join/rejoin the beta will be posted.

rustic barn Aug 27, 2019, 1:08 AM

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Ahhh so thats why i cant log into the game today
Cus mine is already august 27

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 1:22 AM

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possibly

turbid nebula Aug 27, 2019, 1:35 AM

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Profiles and friends are shared between live and beta? Assuming friends are in the beta I suppose.

lusty light Aug 27, 2019, 1:36 AM

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Beta and live are separate

prime kettle Aug 27, 2019, 1:37 AM

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when does beta start

lusty light Aug 27, 2019, 1:37 AM

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Beta has been open since January 2018

prime kettle Aug 27, 2019, 1:38 AM

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how do i join

lusty light Aug 27, 2019, 1:38 AM

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Check #beta-announcements

prime kettle Aug 27, 2019, 1:38 AM

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k thx

vapid briar Aug 27, 2019, 1:44 AM

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Beta access has not been wiped yet, we will communicate when that begins/is completed.

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Times are listed in local time to the studio which is located in California. GMT-7

spiral wharf Aug 27, 2019, 2:03 AM

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Can anyone join the beta? Or just the people who already joined once?

steep crystal Aug 27, 2019, 2:03 AM

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Anyone can join when the link goes up Sept 3rd

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Limited amount of spots tho

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 2:07 AM

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currently it is 7k

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however we do not know if they will decrease or increase that amount

spiral wharf Aug 27, 2019, 2:16 AM

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Let’s hope we all enter tho

quaint void Aug 27, 2019, 2:22 AM

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I hope that all who sign in for beta are doing it with the right motive...to help test. Not to get early info etc. I have really enjoyed my short time in beta. A very friendly bunch, more-so than in live. If I miss out, I want to believe there are better testers than I who got in first.

Just voicing a thought with no one particular in mind. 😊

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 2:27 AM

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i would personally test to break the game

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opinion on new patch

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tables should have just fixed people being clipped onto them

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and only people sitting can tp

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about alt accounts

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that doesn't necessarily fix the problem

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once android releases you'll have a bunch of people who have tons of android emulators

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and

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android is broken af

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i wouldn't be surprised if someone made a bot to do the stuff for them

arctic pecan Aug 27, 2019, 2:31 AM

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eyeah seen a lot of stuffs happening in androids with the emulators

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 2:32 AM

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mhmm

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it didn't necessarily solve the problem

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if anything you only cost people three candles per alt

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and, pardon my bias

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but heart trading was a casualty of this

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that's all

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Punish the entire playerbase for the sake of a few people creating alts, damn.

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Bold moves.

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Almost like banning heart trading on discord/reddit because of a few people behaving badly.

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A shame everyone has to lose out in this way.

burnt girder Aug 27, 2019, 2:55 AM

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It's an exploit of the system they want i guess. We just have to deal with their decision. There's been a lot of things people loved but was taken out or changed. The game has changed for the better. You need to try it out, you might like it. If you don't, try to give constructive feedback but don't expect tgc to listen i guess. They know what they want sky to be and will stick to it

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 3:03 AM

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i'm thinking of other ways to patch alts

teal hearth Aug 27, 2019, 3:03 AM

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yeahhh,,,

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honestly

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i think this is a bad idea-

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I have really close friends but I don't have hug unlocked

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 3:03 AM

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i was gonna suggest accounts

teal hearth Aug 27, 2019, 3:03 AM

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please do it

burnt girder Aug 27, 2019, 3:04 AM

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Hug is only 3 candles. Not that expensive

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 3:04 AM

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but then i realized anybody with one brain cell can make an account

teal hearth Aug 27, 2019, 3:04 AM

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True-

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 3:04 AM

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depends on how many friends they have

teal hearth Aug 27, 2019, 3:04 AM

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But for a new friend

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 3:04 AM

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but yes

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in a general term

teal hearth Aug 27, 2019, 3:04 AM

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it equals 10 candles I believe

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 3:04 AM

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it is not expensive

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no only three

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wait no four

teal hearth Aug 27, 2019, 3:04 AM

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oh

burnt girder Aug 27, 2019, 3:04 AM

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I dont make enough candles to send hearts to that many people

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 3:04 AM

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new friend + hi5 + hug

burnt girder Aug 27, 2019, 3:04 AM

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I can afford maybe 2 or 3 a day

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 3:04 AM

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= 4 candles

burnt girder Aug 27, 2019, 3:04 AM

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Beyond that, i lose candles

teal hearth Aug 27, 2019, 3:05 AM

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i thought it was more expensive-

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Yeahh-

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I just have 20 candles on me rn, and I don't want that to drain quickly.

lusty light Aug 27, 2019, 3:05 AM

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Let’s be real. Who only gives a heart to one friend and then never gives them another heart

burnt girder Aug 27, 2019, 3:06 AM

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benji accounts is a good idea

analog gorge Aug 27, 2019, 3:06 AM

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bro @burnt girder i love your pfp sm

teal hearth Aug 27, 2019, 3:07 AM

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Hhhh- I just- understand the update but also worry deeply.

wary idol Aug 27, 2019, 3:07 AM

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im quite shy/antisocial, but i love this game so it’s a bit tough getting hearts D;

teal hearth Aug 27, 2019, 3:07 AM

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And with the update, that would be hard-

umbral glade Aug 27, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Ahhhh alt accounts to trade hearts? Why? 😩

teal hearth Aug 27, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Possibly there would be only 2 accounts limited to one device?

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One even

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But that may terminate the previous accounts on accident, so that may be bad.

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Personally I think this would be bad due to the fact there is a thing called heart trading, sure, it's mildly hard to get the capes, but it would be terrible to have to work up to that point.

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 3:15 AM

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@burnt girder i'm thinking of how the servers could be affected

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and whether or not the pros outweigh the cons

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then again i don't know how good the servers are

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but even with accounts, it only takes a few brain cells to get an account going

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for a different device

teal hearth Aug 27, 2019, 3:17 AM

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True

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I have an idea, haha!!

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They could possibly set up something that allws diff accounts, but

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allows

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it checks if you are abusing whatsoever the idea

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of the heart trading between them

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as they are accounts on the same device, or were made on them

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It would hlep

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help on most things, maybe not for people that have two, but, yeah

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 3:22 AM

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that would be harder though

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what conditions would you need to check

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ip address?

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you could have a lot of people in your household playing

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maybe it could be setup to detect lots of players in one area

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or a lot of packets being sent from there

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but they could bypass it

lusty light Aug 27, 2019, 3:24 AM

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Cookie run only allows you to make a certain number of accounts on a device before it disables it

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 3:24 AM

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could use an emulator

lusty light Aug 27, 2019, 3:24 AM

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A lot of games don’t work on emulator

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I know cookie run disables features when you are emulator

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To prevent exploits

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 3:25 AM

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ohhhhhh

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cookie run

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i remember

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yeah they could set up an emulation anti cheat

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what about vms though

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well i mean they could probably set up a vm anti cheat

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but what about regular phones

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people who have multiple

lusty light Aug 27, 2019, 3:26 AM

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I said cookie run doesn’t let you make but so many accounts

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On a physical device

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 3:26 AM

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isn't therea time limit on it

lusty light Aug 27, 2019, 3:27 AM

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No

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 3:27 AM

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or did they update

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i remember using alts lol

lusty light Aug 27, 2019, 3:27 AM

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It’s like 5 accounts and then you’re not allowed to make more

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 3:27 AM

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grabbed my dad's phone

lusty light Aug 27, 2019, 3:27 AM

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Because of the invite system

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 3:27 AM

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mhmm

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what do they specifically use to detect it tho

lusty light Aug 27, 2019, 3:28 AM

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Idk I don’t look at the files

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 3:28 AM

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it's probably server end anyway

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wait

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but you don't really need five chances to set up an account

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hm maybe a detection system could be viable

arctic pecan Aug 27, 2019, 3:46 AM

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oh eyeah Cookie Run, knew of people in the Championship who cheats hence the suspension from Devsisters for like a week

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anyhow eyeah it would be nice to have some detection system going on

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i know it’s unfair for some people who wants to grind for certain items but to prevent from potential hassles it’ll be wise to at least have one

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:04 AM

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I mean, the whole alt account thing is just a scapegoat for an excuse to market in more business.

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You have to have a below average IQ to think otherwise, tbh.

lusty light Aug 27, 2019, 4:04 AM

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Let’s not insult people

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:05 AM

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I'm all for making more money for indie companies, but there less obvious ways to go about this.

burnt girder Aug 27, 2019, 4:06 AM

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Candles are overpriced in the store. I dont think i'll buy any :\ can they patch that? :D

sour tinsel Aug 27, 2019, 4:06 AM

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Can I make a statement, everyone?

In regards to the heart trade issue . . .

I know that many of us don't understand why heart trade isn't encouraged in our community. Especially to those who are thirsty accomplishers and acheivers. Believe me. I'm a gaming acheiver myself. However, to be solely focused on trading hearts for the sake of quick cosmetic achievement misses the heart of Sky.

Games centered around personal achievement and competitiveness are a dime a dozen today. But here is a game that is meant to be totally different. A game where being a blessing to others takes precident over personal gain. So let's as a community reflect that same spirit. ☺️

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:07 AM

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Your statement is good, but we all know that trying to control people in how they think and play actually ends up being more destructive than not.

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Having mods continuously make out like heart trading is some illegal activity and it is to be shamed is also frankly destructive.

sour tinsel Aug 27, 2019, 4:07 AM

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And what is your goal in the comments you write Dakota?

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:07 AM

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"Black market".

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For example.

burnt girder Aug 27, 2019, 4:07 AM

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I do heart exchanges. With my friends

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:07 AM

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Makes it sound dirty, and underground.

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I am hoping that feedback to these systems will warrant a change in them actually being released.

sour tinsel Aug 27, 2019, 4:08 AM

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Then there's a safer and more discreet way to do so if you wish. Are you willing to take the proper route?

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:09 AM

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Are you telling me that public feedback is not the "proper way"

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Tread carefully

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😂

lusty light Aug 27, 2019, 4:09 AM

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Timnah isn’t a mod

burnt girder Aug 27, 2019, 4:09 AM

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It's just encouraging people to make more meaningful relationships with those they play with, i guess

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:10 AM

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Still a representative.

sour tinsel Aug 27, 2019, 4:10 AM

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As a matter of fact we have a feedback section for suggestions for the devs on #wishlist-and-ideas-archived . So yeah. There is a proper way. ☺️

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:10 AM

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We can't post about beta there.

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Please keep up with the rules.

sour tinsel Aug 27, 2019, 4:11 AM

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I am well aware of the rules. Thank you. My question is are you well aware of the rules or are you trying to gain attention?

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:11 AM

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Oooo, I like this.

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I am trying to get attention to an issue that affects quite a large portion of players.

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I have no personal investment in this as I can easily uninstall the app.

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But you, as a shepherd should know we can't talk about beta related things in normal chats.

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I'd appreciate you cutting the attitude. Thanks.

burnt girder Aug 27, 2019, 4:13 AM

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You're both being a bit heated. Relax ^^

lusty light Aug 27, 2019, 4:13 AM

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Please don’t tell timnah to cut the attitude when you came into this channel with an attitude

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Remember that we need to have civil discussions

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:13 AM

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How do you expect one to react when we're told our method of discussion is not "proper" and being guided to #wishlist-and-ideas-archived knowing full well we can't discuss beta stuff in public channels?

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Oh and being called an attention seeker.

radiant badger Aug 27, 2019, 4:14 AM

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i don’t see an issue with having alternative accounts to trades hearts with youself

strange forge Aug 27, 2019, 4:15 AM

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May I ask what's the exactly change they made in beta to stop this behavior? (alt trading hearts thing)

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:15 AM

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They are making hearts have an initial cost of more candles.

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You need to unlock hug to send a heart, now.

radiant badger Aug 27, 2019, 4:15 AM

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i mean, that doesn’t stop anything

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it just just makes it hard to interact with other players

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:16 AM

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Exactly, hence why I said this is a scapegoat excuse.

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They want to generate more revenue.

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But they're going about it poorly.

radiant badger Aug 27, 2019, 4:16 AM

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and easier and more practical to interact with you own accounts

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lol

burnt girder Aug 27, 2019, 4:17 AM

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Did you know that pink cape used to cost 9 hearts ^^ i just saved up enough to buy it for 40

sour tinsel Aug 27, 2019, 4:17 AM

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It's all right. I'm not upset. I apologise if I appear to be. 👍☺️

@spark lance I simply offered a perfectly legitimate way for you to voice your suggestions just as you claim to want to. If you're fighting it then clearly suggesting something is not your true intent. To which I gently ask you to vent your frustrations more privately. Not every argument need be aired in the open. So let's not let things escelate. Okay? ❤️

dire rover Aug 27, 2019, 4:18 AM

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Alright I'll edit it

hybrid wedge Aug 27, 2019, 4:18 AM

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Please do not call names.

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Discuss ideas. Do not insult each other.

radiant badger Aug 27, 2019, 4:19 AM

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well, i think dakota is right. they treated them like their opinions were wrong and i think its normal to get heated

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:19 AM

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As long as I'm a community member here, my issues with upcoming patches will be posted publicly including anyone that wishes to dispute stuff in said channels

strange forge Aug 27, 2019, 4:19 AM

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Hmm, i think probably lower the initial candle of new account might be better.
And make it easier to grind candle for starter?

sacred sigil Aug 27, 2019, 4:19 AM

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People who cheat too much don't care,I mean if i really want to get stuff i would just open another account in another device and h*** it, seems you can't talk about it. But I do really like the community and stuf. And this cutting behaviour of follow the rules to the end is very very annoying. Do not insult,but do please discuss

strange forge Aug 27, 2019, 4:20 AM

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like first clear of a stage

sacred sigil Aug 27, 2019, 4:20 AM

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Trying to cut the discussion to be like, ho this is not the place to do it

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Meeee, try to exchange some ideas

dire rover Aug 27, 2019, 4:21 AM

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I think there's a big difference in actually making conversation and discussion and thinking you're being smart with your words, trying to agitate moderators and other players, just because you and your heart exchange is negatively affected by the company who doesn't want players to obsess about gathering hearts

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And in that pursuit, making empty alt accounts and farming those hearts

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So I think you should take it elsewhere, dakota.

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We can all see what you're doing.

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:22 AM

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I don't farm alt accounts, don't make accusations.

radiant badger Aug 27, 2019, 4:22 AM

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i dont see any problems with that. but their point was that the decision to make hearts harder to get didn’t do anything

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in that situation

dire rover Aug 27, 2019, 4:22 AM

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The only difference is that the mods here have to be nice and foster a nice community as there are many kids here, and you are completely disregarding that

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I didn't say you did, now did I?

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Stop trying to be smart, guy

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There's no point in your heart trade talk

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:23 AM

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I'd urge you to read what was said, I was told to deal with feedback privately or in a channel where I cannot talk about beta discusisons.

dire rover Aug 27, 2019, 4:23 AM

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Take it to twitter at the very least and keep it there

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:23 AM

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And no, I won't. Who are you?

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Lol

radiant badger Aug 27, 2019, 4:23 AM

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@dire rover you are completely ignoring the arguments

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:23 AM

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It's beta discussion, we're allowed to talk about beta here.

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If that offends you, please block me - I'd appreciate it.

dire rover Aug 27, 2019, 4:24 AM

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The arguements are moot against what TGC thinks their game should play as

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:24 AM

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Not moot at all.

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Companies can change direction.

dire rover Aug 27, 2019, 4:24 AM

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That is very true

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I don't believe your crusade for easier hearts is the way to go though

radiant badger Aug 27, 2019, 4:24 AM

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the argument is that the decision to make hearts harder to get was a bad decision and a lot of people didn’t like it

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it doesn’t affect the alt accounts

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:25 AM

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That's nice, and I respect that - but don't tell me I have to post feedback privately.

radiant badger Aug 27, 2019, 4:25 AM

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it affects the normal players more

dire rover Aug 27, 2019, 4:25 AM

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Then those people are free to post on twitter, on the discord in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived and maybe even report it as a bug in game

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The main issue here is dakota's attitude.

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:25 AM

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Again, you're not a mod.

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Stop acting like one.

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You cannot tell people what they can and cannot do/act like.

radiant badger Aug 27, 2019, 4:25 AM

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mate, we can talk about the game here

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:25 AM

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I am being civil, posting things with clarity and reasoning.

sacred sigil Aug 27, 2019, 4:25 AM

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Discussion is important, hearts are not a big deal at all, just find 5 good friends and farm one day or another,you can get up to 15 candles day. It will not make any difference for older players, like I have people who I trade,but sometimes I want to give to beginners and all of that stuff

dire rover Aug 27, 2019, 4:26 AM

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When the moderators repeatedly have to tell a user to cool there's some red flags about him

radiant badger Aug 27, 2019, 4:26 AM

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the channel is called beta discussion

dire rover Aug 27, 2019, 4:26 AM

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I'm certainly not a mod dakota

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:26 AM

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I was told once.

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Stop being hyperbolic, thanks.

soft belfry Aug 27, 2019, 4:26 AM

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...y'all doing okay..?

dire rover Aug 27, 2019, 4:26 AM

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That's why I'm telling you to be nicer or no one will respect you at all

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Or, maybe if you're a little nicer someone might respect your arguments.

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:26 AM

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I don't care about respect.

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Is this Snapchat?

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lol

hybrid wedge Aug 27, 2019, 4:26 AM

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Guys. This is not beta discussion.

dire rover Aug 27, 2019, 4:26 AM

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I don't think it is dakota

hybrid wedge Aug 27, 2019, 4:26 AM

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Stop with the personal jabs.

radiant badger Aug 27, 2019, 4:27 AM

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@dire rover i think you’re the one who need to keep it down

dire rover Aug 27, 2019, 4:27 AM

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Dakota is just being majorly disrespectful and frankly, being an ass. The mods are too kind to point it out

burnt girder Aug 27, 2019, 4:27 AM

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Nom

dire rover Aug 27, 2019, 4:27 AM

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I'm the only one speaking up about it

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:27 AM

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Again, you've insulted me 3 times directly.

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I have not insulted you once.

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Can you stop?

dire rover Aug 27, 2019, 4:27 AM

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I completely respect his faith in that the heart system is flawed if he chooses to think that, but the way he's lowkey insulting people here is just dumb

sacred sigil Aug 27, 2019, 4:28 AM

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👀

dire rover Aug 27, 2019, 4:28 AM

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And he's just being a smart ass, when he could be polite and go about it in a more proper way

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:28 AM

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Sorry, who am I insulting by pointing out the fact I won't speak on issues privately or post about them in a channel where it'll get me sanctioned?

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Think of that logic, for 10 seconds before typing to me.

radiant badger Aug 27, 2019, 4:28 AM

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i didn’t see him insulting anyone

dire rover Aug 27, 2019, 4:28 AM

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That's not what I'm referring to, you understand that.

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Let's not beat around the bush here

radiant badger Aug 27, 2019, 4:28 AM

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you’re the one saying he is attention seeking and stuff

dire rover Aug 27, 2019, 4:28 AM

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Well he is

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:28 AM

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You've insulted me, now 3 times, and not a single mod has chimed in.

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😂

soft belfry Aug 27, 2019, 4:29 AM

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Okay if it's gonna continue, how about we just take this to the dms...just a thought

dire rover Aug 27, 2019, 4:29 AM

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I'm just replying to this troll

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:29 AM

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Oh, attention seeker and troll. Okay then.

sacred sigil Aug 27, 2019, 4:29 AM

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lol

radiant badger Aug 27, 2019, 4:29 AM

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you don’t have to if you don’t want

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:29 AM

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Still no moderation whilst this guy barrages insults at me.

radiant badger Aug 27, 2019, 4:29 AM

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don’t act like you’re a hero

hybrid wedge Aug 27, 2019, 4:30 AM

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I have been directing my warnings at everyone.

radiant badger Aug 27, 2019, 4:30 AM

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he was just saying what he thinks about a game change

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jeez

burnt girder Aug 27, 2019, 4:30 AM

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Theyre not that harsh idk. Isnt this the internet. Can we talk about heart trades or something else lol

dire rover Aug 27, 2019, 4:30 AM

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There are more polite ways of doing, ben

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But whatever, dakota you can do whatever you want

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:31 AM

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I'm glad I have your permission, thank you.

dire rover Aug 27, 2019, 4:31 AM

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I'm sorry you've taken my replies as insults

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:31 AM

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"Idiot", "Dumb", "attention seeker".

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Yeah, I'm sorry for taking them as insults.

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You clearly didn't intend that.

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🙃

dire rover Aug 27, 2019, 4:32 AM

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Oh he noticed

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Again, I am very sorry

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I hope we can move forward and discuss your crusade- err, your suggestions together

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:33 AM

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Again, even when asked to digress, you still continue the jabs.

burnt girder Aug 27, 2019, 4:33 AM

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This isnt beta discussion

orchid nexus Aug 27, 2019, 4:33 AM

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!mute @dire rover 1h

vast bayBOT Aug 27, 2019, 4:33 AM

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gearMute Starflame#2822 has been muted for 1 h for No reason given. (#78455)

orchid nexus Aug 27, 2019, 4:33 AM

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!slowmode 5 m

vast bayBOT Aug 27, 2019, 4:33 AM

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gearYes Slowmode is now set to 5 seconds in #beta-discussion

radiant badger Aug 27, 2019, 4:41 AM

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so, about the heart change:
when you make a new friend like in eden and they help you or you help them, there is not really much time to be unlocking hugs and stuff. and sometimes you want to send them a heart as a thank you gift. you won’t be able to. if you’re never online at the same time as your friends because they live in different time zone, it’s hard to unlock the hugs too.
now if you have an alt account you can easily get some candles and unlock it. and continue your hearts exchanges with yourself. that’s why im saying this new system makes it harder for the social players and it just makes it more practical to have alts. so i think it’s actually encouraging social players to have alts since every item is so expensive now.

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 4:45 AM

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These are my thoughts on the heart price rise:

It really doesn’t matter. All it means is that you have to play a bit more and you’ll get your hearts less often. Will it be a bit frustrating? Yes. Will it make getting the heart unlock option a bit more tedius? Yes. though put this in mind as well;

The game is free.

TGC didn’t have to make it free. The candle shop and season pass sales are I believe the primary(?) source of revenue for the game. I feel it’s justified, though it would be a tad nicer if the heart unlock was opened after high five, with additional heart gifting on the upgrade after hug at the cost of 1 more candle (balancing, maybe.)

radiant badger Aug 27, 2019, 4:52 AM

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but they’re all quite expensive, at least in my country idk. and like the other player said before, a lot of people are not gonna pay for it. the people who are willing to pay are people who already would pay for anything. like, i have a friend who buys a pack of candles every week. he is gonna buy it no matter what. i think lowering the prices so that more people have access to that stuff, and more people will buy buy it and they’ll make more money. but in any case, i think making the game pay to win, is not a good tactic. the very high prices of hearts for the items is already a barrier that people have to work very very hard with the old heart system since 2 capes cost 50 hearts, 1 cape costs 40, the chair is 30. it’s already hard for normal players, there’s no need to make it even harder

storm flicker Aug 27, 2019, 4:56 AM

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Who else hoped on so fast

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main ivy Aug 27, 2019, 4:56 AM

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Doggo!! :D
Best notification background

arctic pecan Aug 27, 2019, 4:57 AM

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pupper !! happy belated doggo day

supple pulsar Aug 27, 2019, 4:58 AM

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Ah is chat table teleportation going away completely? It was fun to mess around with friends

analog gorge Aug 27, 2019, 4:59 AM

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What is TestFlight? @storm flicker

radiant badger Aug 27, 2019, 5:00 AM

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its where you get sky beta

storm flicker Aug 27, 2019, 5:01 AM

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His name is Fergus ❤️♥️❤️🐶 and it’s the app that tests out sky

radiant badger Aug 27, 2019, 5:05 AM

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yo, is your name actually pendragon or is it because of arthur pendragon?

sacred sigil Aug 27, 2019, 5:06 AM

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GTA 5 on steam $15~30
Assassin's creed odyssey $30 ~ $60
About sky
Sesonal pass~ $10
3 candles ~$1- a nothing
15 candles ~ $5- a hair
30 candles ~ $10- a mask
60 candles~ $20- a instrument or the staff
150 candles ~ $50- white or black cape
And will be more sesonal pass, like I'm all about helping the developers, but you know I can only spend a certain amount in a game. Especially with the price of the dollar in brazil
It's like buying the game over and over, even if the game is free.
Just addressing, I know that farming s all about the game, but I've spend a considerable amount of time on it, only spend with the sesonal pass. Like is hard to get hearts

radiant badger Aug 27, 2019, 5:17 AM

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if the game is betting on repeating itself after you finish like they do, it has to be a little rewarding, you know. if it’s impossible to get the coolest items, people will just stop playing after eden, which i bet is not the idea. i mean, you literally have to play the game hundreds of times, the same cutscenes, same maps, same everything, and the only thing keeping us going is the items (and maybe rarely friends).

hasty vessel Aug 27, 2019, 5:57 AM

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^^ the main issue here is that the game is centred around gaining items, unlocking spirit trees and farming candles. The company hasn’t instilled any incentives to build social groups to help the community grow. It even costs currency to make a friend... if this game really wanted to show players that it’s more about the connection with others than items, why have they made everything feel like a transaction? The current currency system obviously isn’t working if it requires people to make alt accounts to make the game feel more worth-while and I feel it needs a complete reform. Do you think the devs know it takes around 2-3 hours to farm 15 candles a day? Things need to change.

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 6:04 AM

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I don't get the whole "the game is free, so bad practices are more tolerable.".

carmine nest Aug 27, 2019, 6:17 AM

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Preach Dakota, the game is not free. It’s “freemium”

burnt girder Aug 27, 2019, 6:50 AM

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It is working. the people that are making alt accounts just want cosmetics faster. I am failing to understand what is premium about the game. You are only buying yourself time not playing the game. You could go and explore with a new friend, earning candles with each other to share hearts, upgrade the friend tree or buy yourself new emotes/spells. Or you can buy candles and pay for the emotes faster or send more hearts to your friends. If you enjoy playing the game, it is not such a hassle. Farming candles is an excuse for me to fly around and socialize with my friends who also like the game. The economy has changed many times, and your feedback helps TGC learn more about how people feel, but there's no need for trying to criticize their practices. There are plenty of people that don't have any problems with the system like myself. I play the game I think pretty normally and it seems pretty balanced. Half of the masks/hair/pants/capes i don't even like so it didn't take me long to get stuff i thought actually looked good. I agree the shop is a bit crazy though.

I recommend trying to provide feedback only, instead of considering your idea to the only correct one. I have been very frustrated with some of TGC's decisions throughout beta, but they have the final call... I stopped playing for a bit even. I came back to a better game, for sure and positive feedback can and will change this. Don't be so mad, just test it out and say how you feel

shrewd needle Aug 27, 2019, 7:08 AM

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There is something simple which could make things easier and more fair; limit the number of hearts that you can receive per day to the amount that you give out. That leaves it so at most you could receive 5 hearts, and you won't be getting them for doing nothing. That also takes out that nasty of having to unlock hug and high-five in order to give hearts.

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 8:07 AM

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Err wait was the beta already out? Cause I just hopped into check TestFlight but there's nothing there...

main ivy Aug 27, 2019, 8:10 AM

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@spark lance TestFlight isn't just for Sky, if that's what you're confused about. TestFlight is an app that helps lots of different developers test different games. You need an invite to a beta (such as Sky's) before you can download it through TestFlight.

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 8:14 AM

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Ah ok...it's given out in the #beta-announcements channel on Sept. 3 right?

main ivy Aug 27, 2019, 8:16 AM

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Ah, I don't know anything about the exact date or place, sorry. Hope someone else can help with that!

signal lichen Aug 27, 2019, 8:21 AM

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OMG! Does that mean you can't play the beta version without an invitation from someone who has already played the beta version?😩

signal lichen Aug 27, 2019, 9:02 AM

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I see! Thank you!!😊

hollow halo Aug 27, 2019, 11:06 AM

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👋🏼hi, Is the new season already in beta?

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 11:07 AM

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@hollow halo, no, we won’t see it until sometime next week.

hollow halo Aug 27, 2019, 11:11 AM

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@spark lance will be released September 3 on beta? 🤔

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 11:17 AM

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The week of September 3 ...

hollow halo Aug 27, 2019, 11:27 AM

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@spark lance and then what did August 27 mean?...

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 11:28 AM

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That’s for the access wipe. That means that TGC will be removing everyone’s beta app access.

hollow halo Aug 27, 2019, 11:32 AM

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@spark lance understood , thanks )

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 2:08 PM

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personally, the 3-6 months thing isn’t correct, and even with “heart trading” it still takes over half a year to get all cosmetics.
and even that is said to be a quick way of obtaining hearts, yet math shows that it still takes over the advertised time.
what more for people who do it “legit”?
i think there was definitely another way to go about this.

spare sigil Aug 27, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Am i The only one that played beta but never receved The cape????

radiant badger Aug 27, 2019, 2:24 PM

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i downloaded beta after the live global launch, without invitations and i didn’t have any issues
i literally just downloaded testflight and beta sky was there.

umbral glade Aug 27, 2019, 2:37 PM

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@spare sigil TGC asked people to contact them through the game to handle any cape questions or problems. Hopefully you're able to get one! 💙
(Edited to clarify that they didn't ask you in particular, just anyone who was missing one.)

spare sigil Aug 27, 2019, 5:09 PM

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Thx!! @umbral glade

stoic badger Aug 27, 2019, 5:43 PM

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@spark lance Id argue the point of the game isn’t to collect everything, but to choose what things you think are valuable. I look forward to future changes though as I think their current system is still flawed.

If TGC wants less of an emphasis on consumerism then they should look at detaching the “collection” aspects of the game, like not showing people all the things they don’t have in their customization menus or not rewarding someone for buying everything in a constellation

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That being said..... There’s no simple answer to the problems the economy faces though and no silver bullet, there’s always unforeseen consequences and the challenges they’re taking on is something without any real precedent (i mean why bother doing something new when you have kid gambling and “surprise mechanics”), they deserve respect for taking them on and continuing to work on them for the sake of their creative intent and the human values they wish to imbue in the game, it’s going to require some patience.

ocean garden Aug 27, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Wait did the new beta wave get launched already or are they just updating the one we have now?

vapid briar Aug 27, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Old beta.

mental coyote Aug 27, 2019, 6:59 PM

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How can we get a Sky beta ?

lusty light Aug 27, 2019, 7:10 PM

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Read #beta-announcements

mental coyote Aug 27, 2019, 7:24 PM

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Ok thx

rugged canyon Aug 27, 2019, 8:54 PM

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For some reason, my beta version keeps show ing this message up, can someone tells me what’s going on with my phone, it’s just me or?

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spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 8:56 PM

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@rugged canyon I’m not seeing that message in beta. Are you getting it on multiple retries?

rugged canyon Aug 27, 2019, 9:04 PM

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@spark lance sure I did, it just keeps showing up 😫. Not gonna lie I actually play like about three version of Sky, I had Chinese version, I had the normal version, and I had played Sky Beta back then, I think it was 0.4.9 or 0.4.10. But I didn’t join any beta testing after 0.4.10

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 9:05 PM

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That makes more sense then that you perhaps didn’t rejoin the beta after the June reset.

rugged canyon Aug 27, 2019, 9:09 PM

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I think so, I guess I have no chance to get back beta 😢😢 thanks for answering tho

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 9:10 PM

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@rugged canyon You’ll have a chance when the beta invite link is posted the week of 9/3 per the #beta-announcements.

rugged canyon Aug 27, 2019, 9:15 PM

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ur right, so I guess I just wait, thx

frank tapir Aug 27, 2019, 10:41 PM

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What happens if you aren’t able to get in the beta game, cuz I tried downloading the beta a few weeks ago before the access wipe and it didn’t work.

main ivy Aug 27, 2019, 10:43 PM

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Nothing happens, really. You won't have access to testing upcoming patches, but that's it.

spark lance Aug 27, 2019, 10:51 PM

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@stoic badger i’m just saying that maybe they should have advertised or utilized their words differently on that livestream. if they did their math, however, that’s a different story. i’m not saying that it’s a problem in the economy, although yes the economy is kinda messed up right now, i’m just saying they could have used a higher amount for how many months it takes to finish constellations.

stoic badger Aug 28, 2019, 2:58 AM

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@spark lance V Ah, i understand, I guess it was just a bad generalization.

dire rover Aug 28, 2019, 3:02 AM

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Blue capes unite

soft belfry Aug 28, 2019, 3:03 AM

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Aye this will be my first time

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Maybe

ocean garden Aug 28, 2019, 3:15 AM

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Im excited to play the beta. Hopefully I can nab it before the spots are filled.

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Would be nice if we could carry over our live character and collectibles though, but I imagine that would be too difficult to keep up with

hybrid wedge Aug 28, 2019, 3:20 AM

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Nah, beta and live are completely separated, so if you’re new you get to start with a clean slate ^^

dire rover Aug 28, 2019, 3:28 AM

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Act now, and you too can play through roughly the same game over and over testing the economy and bug fixes together with others like you

potent torrent Aug 28, 2019, 3:41 AM

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I hope to get here in time to join in! With all the time I have I might as well make good use of it by helping a game I love!! 😊 💙

dire rover Aug 28, 2019, 3:44 AM

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Tired of spending 3 hours running through Sky: Children of The Light to collect candle light over and over? In just a week you can join the beta and do the same over in Sky: Beta, only here the bugs might be worse and your progress will be deleted after some time

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Join today!

ocean garden Aug 28, 2019, 4:07 AM

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True but beta rewards make it worth it

soft belfry Aug 28, 2019, 4:08 AM

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Lol I just like the idea of playing a game I enjoy but like for an actual purpose

dire rover Aug 28, 2019, 4:11 AM

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TGC confirmed there will be no beta rewards forward unfortunately, the cape that was given to testers was a thank you for the help prior to launch

spark lance Aug 28, 2019, 4:12 AM

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Do you guys think they will announce a specific day and time where the beta link will be available before the first week of September?

lusty light Aug 28, 2019, 4:15 AM

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No they don’t want to have anything set in stone and then have people upset when they don’t deliver

soft belfry Aug 28, 2019, 4:15 AM

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I don't need a cape😤 i need to be useful lol

potent torrent Aug 28, 2019, 4:18 AM

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Same!!

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The cape is just a cherry on top :3

lusty light Aug 28, 2019, 4:20 AM

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there will be no reward

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!betareward

vast bayBOT Aug 28, 2019, 4:20 AM

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The Beta reward was a one-time thing for the testing period prior to the iOS global launch. A future reward is not planned.

potent torrent Aug 28, 2019, 4:22 AM

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I don’t need one anyway, I just want to help :3

spark lance Aug 28, 2019, 4:36 AM

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i just wanna break the game

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thank god the blue cape exists now though emote thingy in #old-𝚛ules

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much easier to calculate how many people might join beta

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i guess it helps tgc for the same reasons

vapid drum Aug 28, 2019, 7:02 AM

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@solar dragon beta is still playable , only the build is removed. Is this correct ?

empty inlet Aug 28, 2019, 7:37 AM

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ohh good to know

covert burrow Aug 28, 2019, 8:34 AM

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Recently in the skating rink I went underwater and someone was playing “Under the Sea” from the Little Mermaid. It made me smile. I friended that person and the next time I went Home I sent them a heart, because Bravo to you good sir or madam, you brightened my day.
If it’s going to cost me six candles to do that I won’t and I think that’s a real shame.

potent torrent Aug 28, 2019, 8:34 AM

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Oh my gosh that’s adorable

covert burrow Aug 28, 2019, 8:35 AM

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Their playing was boss too, they clearly put some practice time in

potent torrent Aug 28, 2019, 8:38 AM

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Beautiful

smoky fossil Aug 28, 2019, 8:58 AM

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Hey guys just want to find out whether new beta link is available or not ?

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Scrap that I just saw new link sep 3rd oops

spark lance Aug 28, 2019, 1:50 PM

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@pallid badger let's talk about how the beta works here

pallid badger Aug 28, 2019, 1:50 PM

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Thank you!

spark lance Aug 28, 2019, 1:50 PM

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Ask me some specific questions so I can help you

radiant drum Aug 28, 2019, 1:51 PM

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@pallid badger you can learn more about the beta in #beta-announcements! But basically, the beta gets update before live so we can help TGC test them ahead of time

pallid badger Aug 28, 2019, 1:51 PM

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Ok, how/where do we put ourselves forward for it?

radiant drum Aug 28, 2019, 1:51 PM

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Read #beta-announcements for that ^^

pallid badger Aug 28, 2019, 1:51 PM

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And you do via an app in the AppStore... flighttest or something?

spark lance Aug 28, 2019, 1:51 PM

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You would tap on the invite link that will be posted in beta updates

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You download TestFlight from the app store

radiant drum Aug 28, 2019, 1:51 PM

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Oh you might also want to check out the #old-𝚛ules and sign up for the beta role to get updates

pallid badger Aug 28, 2019, 1:52 PM

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Il have a quick look and see what I can do. I’ll be back with more Questions

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Oh ok, so when it’s ready and the invite goes live, you just click it. You don’t have to submit your email/contact details or anything? And is there a limit to how many can do it? First come first served?

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I’ll download the app now.

radiant drum Aug 28, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Your details will be tied to your Apple ID, as you’re logged in TestFlight with it

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So yeah just click the link and it should open TestFlight for you to start testing

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Last time the limit was 7k people, first come first served basis

graceful hawk Aug 28, 2019, 7:56 PM

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Is the MacOS beta still active?

lusty light Aug 28, 2019, 7:58 PM

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No

dire rover Aug 28, 2019, 9:19 PM

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Only in our hearts.

swift garden Aug 28, 2019, 11:01 PM

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Kind of getting cold feet on the beta. I was super excited before, but between here and reddit I kind of get the impression that THC doesn’t actually implement the changes testers want.

spark lance Aug 28, 2019, 11:04 PM

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I can tell you that our input over the past 20 months has been listened to and many things have been implemented. TGC does care about beta feedback, and I would encourage you to join @swift garden

radiant drum Aug 28, 2019, 11:12 PM

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Keep in mind we should report bugs and give constructive feedback/criticism and help TGC test the game, but that does not mean that feedback will be implemented immediately. The team truly cares for our opinions and reports and they are very important to keep improving the game, and that is very clear in the many changes the game went through since beta started

covert burrow Aug 28, 2019, 11:14 PM

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Speaking from experience: Everyone thinks that about software. The reality is schedules are hard, bugs have to be fixed, and sometimes the “real” fix requires lots of infrastructure changes that aren’t visible but take time to do. Sometimes what is valuable is identification of the problem, but not any proposed solution.

dire rover Aug 28, 2019, 11:14 PM

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Think of it as asking someone to do something for you and they say "I'll think about it".

TGC does the same for our suggestions and actually look them over, weigh them against their own ideas and then chooses an outcome.

covert burrow Aug 28, 2019, 11:14 PM

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Just give helpful feedback and your reasoning behind it.

swift garden Aug 28, 2019, 11:16 PM

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I suppose that makes sense

covert burrow Aug 28, 2019, 11:17 PM

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One time a bug reporter called me “useless”, which seemed a bit harsh. Please remember to be kind to the people receiving your feedback ☺️

spark lance Aug 28, 2019, 11:18 PM

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i can't wait for the new features

dire rover Aug 28, 2019, 11:18 PM

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He just meant "use less", probably referring to plastic usage

spark lance Aug 28, 2019, 11:18 PM

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that break the game

dire rover Aug 28, 2019, 11:18 PM

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Table 2.0

swift garden Aug 28, 2019, 11:21 PM

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Ive worked in software as well. One thing that I thought was always helped to have some sort of roadmap that people can see.

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I wonder if they would consider having a public roadmap.

spark lance Aug 28, 2019, 11:25 PM

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hopefully

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i would like to see their thoughts overall rather than wait every week

north dagger Aug 29, 2019, 1:21 AM

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Didn’t they block anyone from starting the beta version?

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spark lance Aug 29, 2019, 1:29 AM

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So far it's the TestFlight access that is blocked

north dagger Aug 29, 2019, 1:30 AM

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Wait so i get to stay in it?

lusty light Aug 29, 2019, 1:30 AM

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for now

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when the new invite link comes out you'll still need it

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since after the game updates you'll lose access

north dagger Aug 29, 2019, 1:31 AM

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Ah dang, ok

spark lance Aug 29, 2019, 1:37 AM

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mhmm

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you can't access prior versions as well (if you tested that before)

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that's they know

hollow compass Aug 29, 2019, 5:38 AM

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If TGC were like EA and Sims4 they'd say: "Oh, connection issues with your friends? Interesting. Here, we've released a brand new world that will break all previous worlds. Happy gaming!"

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But in my experience they have always listened to us and tried to communicate why some things may not be implemented.

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We should also remember that they are a small team with limited resources. It takes time, even if they are intending to fix some of the minor bugs.

vast bayBOT Aug 29, 2019, 6:55 AM

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To spoiler tag a picture, click the “Mark as spoiler” box when you upload it (desktop), or rename the file name to begin with SPOILER_. On iOS export image to the Files app > rename > share to Discord.

summer void Aug 29, 2019, 8:08 AM

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If I don’t have Facebook, am I unable to join the new test flight beta group?

potent torrent Aug 29, 2019, 8:11 AM

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The link will be put in #beta-announcements here too

summer void Aug 29, 2019, 8:11 AM

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Sweet! Will it be on the same day the Facebook link comes out? @potent torrent

potent torrent Aug 29, 2019, 8:12 AM

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Check #beta-announcements it’ll tell you, the post recent post :3

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I’m just a player don’t quote me XD

summer void Aug 29, 2019, 8:13 AM

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Alrighty! Thank you 💕

hasty vessel Aug 29, 2019, 9:16 AM

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Hey everyone, I have a question.. with the new beta update does it prevent you from sending hearts through the constellation? Even if you have hug unlocked will you need to exchange hearts in person?

main ivy Aug 29, 2019, 9:26 AM

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Don't think so. From what I've heard, it just makes you need hug unlocked.

hasty vessel Aug 29, 2019, 10:20 AM

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@main ivy Thank you! Is this decision set in stone? Or is there a possibility of them implementing something different?

hollow compass Aug 29, 2019, 10:24 AM

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We have no way of knowing. But generally speaking, TGC always listens to suggestions and considers them.

main ivy Aug 29, 2019, 10:26 AM

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It's only in the beta now, so we have no idea what will happen @hasty vessel ! Beta is for testing. If the test shows it's not working, maybe TGC will try something else instead.

Though this doesn't mean "If we yell at TGC enough they'll change it." While TGC does seem to value player feedback, there are a lot of factors to consider. So whatever changes, we should try to give feedback only in respectful and thoughtful ways.

hollow compass Aug 29, 2019, 10:30 AM

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To add to that, I think the pending wipe of accounts is a way for TGC to be able to see how a new account behaves in the current economy, which is why it’s important that not only old beta testers sign up.

hasty vessel Aug 29, 2019, 11:07 AM

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Thank you for clarifying @main ivy I appreciate it 😊 I guess time will tell.

gusty sluice Aug 29, 2019, 11:16 AM

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Chinese version has updated the chair but not add the condition of sending ❤️. So I guess they may not update it this time

jagged geyser Aug 29, 2019, 11:30 AM

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So how many people can participate in a beta?

rich tundra Aug 29, 2019, 11:46 AM

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7K

lusty light Aug 29, 2019, 12:54 PM

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I’ve actually been informed that this time around the max is 5k

spark lance Aug 29, 2019, 2:12 PM

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thank you sera, very cool

solar meteor Aug 29, 2019, 10:48 PM

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It has been months does any one know when is the Android launch.

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??

rich wolf Aug 29, 2019, 10:50 PM

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there is actually an anime that can help you understand beta testing

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if only a little

spark lance Aug 29, 2019, 10:57 PM

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We dont know about the android launch, but the best thing to do is be patient

rich wolf Aug 29, 2019, 10:57 PM

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that's what this game is supposed to help teach, patience

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(and a few other things)

spark lance Aug 29, 2019, 11:08 PM

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@solar meteor Not sure why you’re asking in beta discussion, but we know that TGC is working hard on the Android version. Please check #news for updates.

hollow compass Aug 30, 2019, 6:29 AM

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@solar meteor also, have a look at #beta-announcements today for a sign-up regarding Android 😉

spark lance Aug 30, 2019, 8:26 AM

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@spark lance I’m in Florida in the projected path of a hurricane coming our way, which is expected to arrive Monday or Tuesday. I won’t have internet for a few days, but I really don’t want to miss this beta...

spark lance Aug 30, 2019, 9:22 AM

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@spark lance The priority is to be safe. hug

covert sinew Aug 30, 2019, 9:50 AM

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That is a very good new. But Play Market has bugs. Sometimes it shows that my device can't run the game, sometimes that my device can run it

patent karma Aug 30, 2019, 1:05 PM

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@spark lance Monday is labor day so I assume the link won't be released then. Be safe and good luck.

spark lance Aug 30, 2019, 2:12 PM

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beta for android

tawny osprey Aug 30, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Has anybody gotten anything about the Android beta? I've been subscribed to the newsletter forever, but I don't recall ever getting anything.

lusty light Aug 30, 2019, 3:30 PM

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There is no android beta currently

tawny osprey Aug 30, 2019, 3:52 PM

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@lusty light in the beta updates, they said to subscribe to the newsletter for news on Android beta

lusty light Aug 30, 2019, 3:53 PM

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Yes

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But the beta hasn’t started yet

tawny osprey Aug 30, 2019, 3:53 PM

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I just found that you can update settings for platform, and I didn't have any selected before

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Not sure if it matters or not

lusty light Aug 30, 2019, 3:53 PM

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It does

tawny osprey Aug 30, 2019, 3:53 PM

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Cool

lusty light Aug 30, 2019, 3:53 PM

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But the android beta hasn’t started yet so you still have time to update

tawny osprey Aug 30, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Yep, just wanted to make sure I hadn't missed anything :)

orchid nexus Aug 30, 2019, 4:01 PM

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(oops I was using my brain from the past when I said there was no android beta. installed my present-day brain that had read the announcement, and i'm good now)

scenic fiber Aug 30, 2019, 6:03 PM

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what usually is different about beta testing?

arctic galleon Aug 30, 2019, 6:03 PM

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Finding bugs to fix

scenic fiber Aug 30, 2019, 6:04 PM

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so its not testing possible features? just bugs

worthy dune Aug 30, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Testing all aspects of the game tbh

arctic galleon Aug 30, 2019, 6:06 PM

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We’re gonna test the next season in beta but dk when

lusty light Aug 30, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Yes you test possible features

orchid nexus Aug 30, 2019, 6:06 PM

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as features are introduced there will be features to test

lusty light Aug 30, 2019, 6:06 PM

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When this season ends

orchid nexus Aug 30, 2019, 6:06 PM

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right now we're in access freeze

lusty light Aug 30, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Yeah rip to those beta testers

orchid nexus Aug 30, 2019, 6:07 PM

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one of the test items on the nearterm agenda is the next season

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and by "one" i mean "many"

lost sky Aug 30, 2019, 6:08 PM

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sorry if this has been answered already but will android and ios beta servers be connected...?

scenic fiber Aug 30, 2019, 6:09 PM

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wait so how do i set up to be ready for beta

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im going to lose all my progress right? it starts over?

arctic galleon Aug 30, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Go to #old-𝚛ules

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There’s button that lets you be notified when the link’s out

scenic fiber Aug 30, 2019, 6:10 PM

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the cape yes, but should i download test flight?

proven trout Aug 30, 2019, 6:11 PM

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yeah

scenic fiber Aug 30, 2019, 6:12 PM

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cool ty!!

lusty light Aug 30, 2019, 6:13 PM

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@lost sky no beta and live are completely separate

scenic fiber Aug 30, 2019, 6:13 PM

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wait so we'll be able to access beta account and live account?

lost sky Aug 30, 2019, 6:13 PM

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@lusty light thank you!

tawny osprey Aug 30, 2019, 6:37 PM

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@lost sky Apparently iOS and Android will have crossplay, but it's unclear if the iOS beta and Android beta will have crossplay. The beta and live servers are completely seperate though.

lusty light Aug 30, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Mac beta and iOS beta had crossplay so it’s a possibility

lost sky Aug 30, 2019, 6:45 PM

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ah thank you!!! @tawny osprey that's what i meant to get at,,

lusty light Aug 30, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Sorry for misreading your question 🤧

spark lance Aug 30, 2019, 8:59 PM

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Crossplay?

tawny osprey Aug 30, 2019, 9:57 PM

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iOS players being able to play with Android Players

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The iOS and macOS beta already have crossplay with eachother

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Those also have cross-save via GameCenter. Not sure how cross-save would work with other platforms (would somehow have to associate the ids on the different platforms, maybe using QR codes?)

radiant drum Aug 30, 2019, 10:00 PM

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The macOS and iOS beta did not have cross-save. If you had a iOS account you would have to start over in the mac version and they were separate, but could play together

tawny osprey Aug 30, 2019, 10:30 PM

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@radiant drum Oh my mistake, I thought they did

radiant drum Aug 30, 2019, 10:33 PM

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I wish they did! I hope we get cross saves in the future too ^^

tawny osprey Aug 30, 2019, 11:21 PM

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It would be sort of tricky without some sort of TGC or Sky account.

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GameKit has a method that allows you to authenticate to a third party server (https://developer.apple.com/documentation/gamekit/gklocalplayer/1515407-generateidentityverificationsign), but that you would need some way to associate that with the native identity on other systems; Google identity on Android, PSN on PS4/Vita, NNID on Switch, XBox Live on XBox One, Steam (Epic) on PC. This could be done with some sort of token or QR code, but it would be far simpler to just use a Sky specific account.

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Unfortunately, Apple doesn't have any sort of OAuth system

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Of course if Mac and iOS doen't have crossave as is, then TGC probably isn't using GameCenter for save/login anyway

cobalt crag Aug 30, 2019, 11:45 PM

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Ok asking again, didn’t find an answer does beta restart your progress?

random grove Aug 30, 2019, 11:47 PM

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@cobalt crag every so often, yes, but in the beta. beta and live (global) versions of sky are completely separate accounts and do not affect each other.

cobalt crag Aug 30, 2019, 11:48 PM

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Ty, just wanted to know if I somehow got in, if it’d make me start from scratch

random grove Aug 30, 2019, 11:50 PM

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beta gets account wipes sometimes to test new features with “fresh” players/accounts. right now there was a wipe on the 27th iirc so anyone who joins the beta when the link goes out will have to start from scratch. this, however, does not affect your live progress in any way ^^

lusty light Aug 30, 2019, 11:51 PM

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There was a wipe yes, but it was an access wipe, not a progress wipe

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People who are already in beta don’t have to start over when they rejoin

radiant drum Aug 30, 2019, 11:52 PM

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Yeah if you’re a new beta player, you’ll start from scratch

random grove Aug 30, 2019, 11:52 PM

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ohh, sorry then, i misunderstood! new players to beta will have to start from scratch, though, right?

radiant drum Aug 30, 2019, 11:54 PM

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Yeah

cobalt crag Aug 30, 2019, 11:59 PM

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Ok thanks

vestal tiger Aug 31, 2019, 2:05 AM

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Does that mean that new beta players will have their progress wiped?

spark lance Aug 31, 2019, 2:06 AM

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New beta players start from scratch. They wouldn’t have any progress yet 😁

dire rover Aug 31, 2019, 2:07 AM

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That's actually one of the reasons why I barely have cosmetics there

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It will be reset

spark lance Aug 31, 2019, 2:51 AM

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new beta players start from scratch because beta and live are two different games.

spark lance Aug 31, 2019, 3:38 AM

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Thank you, @patent karma and @spark lance

hollow compass Aug 31, 2019, 4:58 AM

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You're not required to use GC, but it is recommended. So they do seem to use it for save/login.

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Oops, apparently missed a whole section of convo, so I was replying to @tawny osprey

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@dire rover As to not having any cosmetics in beta, I definitely understand not bothering with it because you know you may lose it again. But in the name of science...lol, but for the sake of testing we should actually be using the economy to the full in beta also. TGC monitors our currency interactions to see if the system works as intended.

snow dune Aug 31, 2019, 5:16 AM

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So we will start from zero in the beta, but our progress in the main game will be untouched?

arctic galleon Aug 31, 2019, 5:18 AM

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yea

shrewd needle Aug 31, 2019, 6:07 AM

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Is there some link I can send to a friend who is interested in signing up to be a beta tester on console?

ocean garden Aug 31, 2019, 6:20 AM

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I don’t think they’re doing beta for console yet