Below Zero Mod

[bitter viper]

However the below zero mod has been carried by another contributor recently (govorunb)

[ember flume]

are they on discord?

[bitter viper]

Yeah @true lintel

Maybe he would have time to add the erm leviathan, but I have no idea

If not, then there's not much i can do, unless there are other experienced developers who want to contribute to the mod and can work on this

[ember flume]

i pray

otherwise its just gonne go in #1095941852068331560

[fading anvil]

Recreating the XZ Situation

[fading anvil]

We have time to create more lore and Easter eggs ?

[fading anvil]

I want to add more rickrolls

But adding more lore might be fun and easy to add

[cunning charm]

[cunning charm]

I HATE WEBP 😡

[fading anvil]

It looks like Govorunb is cooking

[fading anvil]

wait below zero is 67 precent off right now

[fading anvil]

[regal geode]

[cunning charm]

[jolly stratus]

<t:1714240800:R>

[fading anvil]

is there a public todo list ?

i'm trying to setup the workspace rn

[soft basin]

[fading anvil]

winter >:C

[soft basin]

i don't know if anything is needed maybe Alex can help you with that

[fading anvil]

I know the Hiyorifish is still a work in progress but I don't really want to mess with Govorunb's code

[true lintel]

if you wanna write some databank logs/lore, check out Unity\Assets\Mod\Neuro logs in the unity project for an example (they usually have voiceover but it's not required) - you need a databank entry w/ a text asset and a PDA Journal to register/spawn it

the backlog is uhhh mostly spoilers (waiting for alex to approve stuff) and a couple bugfixes, if you have ideas do toss them our way

[waxen orchid]

It has begun

[fading anvil]

I want to add more PDAs my current ideas are:

• the PDAs will be part of Vedal's list (the forgotten tasks)

• random dm's Vedal didn't read

• neuro releted copy-pastas

• or just old neuro references

[waxen orchid]

here's the png

[frigid kettle]

oh there it is its even an emote LOL

[waxen orchid]

Here's a new loading screen art

[waxen orchid]

Better version

[ember flume]

ERM

[regal geode]

just letting you know he moved the stream forward to thursday

[bitter viper]

I know I suggested it

[regal geode]

looking forward to seeing it all regardless

[fading anvil]

what ECClib version are we using ?

I downloaded BepInEx Pack for Subnautica Below Zero and Nautilus but I'm not sure about the Ecclib and how to add the actual mod

sorry if me

[soft basin]

all the dependencies should be in install/ directory, where common is common for both, and two game- specific folders. after you copy that to the game directory, create folder "SCHIZO" (don't think name matters) next to ecclib and nautilus in /bepinex/plugins, and drop the schizo.dll in there 👍

[ember flume]

I am excited :0

Are we still taking loading screens?

[bitter viper]

yeah

[fading anvil]

Do the loading screen only work after the second time you open the world ?

[bitter viper]

Yeah

There's only one day left until below zero stream

Just as a reminder

For whoever is working on art for the loading screens

That being said I'm not sure if he'll even get to see it this stream

But

[fading anvil]

i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong but I can't see the PDAs I have added in game

also why are there 5* different SCHIZO.dll files ?

[bitter viper]

what do you mean

[bitter viper]

i cant see the full path so idk what to say

3 of them seem to be dummy dlls probably from unity

and the other 2 maybe subnautica build and below zero build for the mod?

[fading anvil]

3 are in a debug folder

yeah I think you are right

[fading anvil]

Am I building incorrectly ?

the 2 dlls I have are from yesterday and for some reason I can't generate a new one

[bitter viper]

how are you building?

[fading anvil]

I'm just clicking the build button (Rider) I don't get errors just warnings

[bitter viper]

did you select the below zero build config?

[fading anvil]

I'm not sure what do you mean

if you are talking about choosing the right dependencies so the mod could run then yes

but I didn't change the build Solution settings

[ember flume]

erm

[ember flume]

ERM (excuse my last minute ved cosplay. i need to buy programmer socks)

still the prototype but hey its better than nothing 👍

[ember flume]

ved

[fading anvil]

I accidentally opened the project through the Unity folder...

[lofty tree]

surely we still have this thing in the mod

[bitter viper]

Question

Should I prioritize showing the new loading screens first?

So old ones will be put to the bottom of the list

?

[fading anvil]

It's more of a question for the artists but I really think you should

Create a poll ?

[waxen orchid]

Yes please

[thin tusk]

Oh can i still join in on the loading screen or its too late now?

[lofty tree]

i certainly did a thing

[thin tusk]

Nah that’s amazing

[thin tusk]

Kinda go overboard with the background

[lofty tree]

its blessed

[thin tusk]

Lol

[bitter viper]

Holy hell

[fading anvil]

I don't think the poll was needed after all

[bitter viper]

I didn't know you could 3d model

[lofty tree]

its spore lmfao

just modded

[thorn furnace]

~~looks better than my model ~~

[lofty tree]

naaay aintnoway

i was mostly remaking it actually, to all spore capabilities

[thorn furnace]

looks nice

[lofty tree]

and works as intended

[thin tusk]

God spore bring back so many great memory

[bitter viper]

hey guys

i need a version of this image with evil on it

and one with both neuro and evil

has to be same resolution

pls help

(has to be from a karaoke stream)

[bitter viper]

Also if you have any more backgrounds please send them my way within the next 2h

[fading anvil]

how will both of then even fit ?

or is the one with both bigger ?

[bitter viper]

i actually dont know how to make them both fit

that's why im outsourcing this asset

[bitter viper]

how do you want to be credited for the art? "Donie"?

[bitter viper]

same question for you lorx

nevermind lorx apparently you were already in the credits

(since when?)

[ember flume]

mm sure?

[bitter viper]

i can add this as a loading background right?

[ember flume]

ofc!

thats what its for!

[fading anvil]

@bitter viper Are those okay ?

[fading anvil]

@bitter viper

it's bad

[soft basin]

[waxen orchid]

holy

[fading anvil]

2 clear versions

[fading anvil]

I tried

[fading anvil]

it works or should i remake it

[soft basin]

🤷‍♂️

[fading anvil]

@bitter viper

[fading anvil]

Let's hope everything will work

[jaunty gyro]

i kinda forgor this thread exist till today, since it was inactive so long it disappear from my vision

[ember flume]

lets go boyys im so excited :O

[jaunty gyro]

was remote code execution implemented again?

[ember flume]

me workin'

[fading anvil]

will we need to tell him to read the logs ?

[ember flume]

probably tbh ;-;

[fading anvil]

new backdoor

[jaunty gyro]

RCE begins

maybe not

i do want to see ermcon thou

[fading anvil]

fumo cloning itself

[ember flume]

rough WIP

[fading anvil]

it didn't play ???

or is it the other PDA ?

I guess it doesn't auto play anymore

[soft basin]

kinda ruined

[cunning charm]

make a feature like bugbreaches or botdrops in helldivers where like 50 ermfish/ermshark appear from the ground

[waxen orchid]

https://7tv.app/emotes/662ab938846f061542d5965d @bitter viper this good?

Context:

vedal said he wanted to be a penguin on stream earlier

[remote musk]

what was that anny noise we heard

[lofty tree]

anneel

didnt notice it

[jaunty gyro]

where the RCE at

[remote musk]

did semi-jumpscare him though

[lofty tree]

the appearance matters here

one day...

[bitter viper]

why are they even appearing in the first place

they shouldn't be spawning yet

[waxen orchid]

I heard it

[cunning charm]

anneel

[waxen orchid]

People starting investigations of the sound since they don't know about anneel They'll have to wait patiently until it's revealed on stream

[bitter viper]

WHY IS IT THERE THO

The modded creatures aren't supposed to spawn until alan

[cunning charm]

Maybe it has something to do with that file you forgot to send?

[waxen orchid]

Not a wallpaper but here's some ermfish #1233640659458461788 message

[jolly stratus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1233754781911224391/anyeel.mp4

[primal flax]

Hey @bitter viper I decided to make something for the mod if you could fit this somewhere

[tall sand]

what if we had a leviathan

obviously this would take time but i just wanted to spout this idea somewhere

[foggy niche]

I was curious about something. Is the Greggs chicken bake recipe that’s asking for a dead Erm fish a prank? Because I recall Erm fish being unkillable.

[steady echo]

might as well throw mine in here too
though it probably isnt in a good resolution

[cunning charm]

works like eye of cthulu from terraria and spawns armies of hiyorifish

[ember flume]

we are working on it ~

[tall sand]

[ember flume]

@tall sand

[tall sand]

pre'y cool

[tall sand]

so many erms

[ember flume]

YEES

[tall sand]

wait does it have two mouths or is that a chin

oh god it has eyes on its body

[ember flume]

Second mouth :)

[tall sand]

you guys are cooking

[ember flume]

it will open up (if everything works) and have spinning teeth inside ;3

[tall sand]

[ember flume]

https://tenor.com/view/httyd-how-to-train-your-dragon-defenders-of-berk-whispering-death-boulder-class-gif-1061459538305788452

like that ;3

[tall sand]

oooo

creepy; I like it

[ember flume]

hehe

and i want it to make abberdemon noises too if possible ;3

[tall sand]

ah is it Abby-themed

[ember flume]

kinda

might add horns as well

well see

[cunning charm]

So it's like a mimic that copied the looks of Ermfish, Ermshark, and Hiyorifish in order to catch prey (unsuspecting s)? interesting

[remote musk]

it's as they say, there's always a bigger fish

[frigid kettle]

a possible explanation... leads me to believe that this game fills its own slots with modded creatures

[bitter viper]

[fading anvil]

We don't need vanilla creatures anyway

[waxen orchid]

People are soo clueless

[fading anvil]

Can we add "cave sounds" ?

[ember flume]

I want that

[regal geode]

lmao

[regal geode]

I would buy an ermshark plush so fucking fast

[jaunty gyro]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1067638175478071307/1147650685639327814/0001.gif

[ember flume]

Yeah me too TwT i need to finish mine, the prototype is so ugly lol. But i wish we had ermplush too, it would be a better life if we had

[wind stratus]

part 2 today

[jolly stratus]

Love the idea of Vedal having anny sound effects on a soundboard

[jaunty gyro]

is shark duplication still a thing?

[bitter viper]

no

[jaunty gyro]

[fading anvil]

does vedal get a fumo everytime he joins the game ?

[bitter viper]

not anymore i think

just the ones that are there already

[fading anvil]

but i saw a new one at the start of the stream i think

[bitter viper]

...

[fading anvil]

it's a feature

[fading anvil]

maybe we should add auto save mod ?

https://www.nexusmods.com/subnauticabelowzero/mods/107

oh

I checked the original and apparently it's still active

https://github.com/DingoDjango/snAutosave

[fringe laurel]

maybe he just didn't remove one of the old ones?

[fading anvil]

i don't think so there are at least 4 more fumos in one of the cabinets

[fading anvil]

DIsk

[spare tide]

Hello all, I've decided I'd like to play with this mod and can probably test as I go. I'm pretty quick at this game so maybe I'll find a few bugs before it hits vedals stream.
I'm awful at getting mods to work though and I can't seem to get this mod working in Vortex. Does anyone have a list of steps on how to install this using a mod manager?

[bitter viper]

Vortex

[spare tide]

I mean you make a good point, but of the mod managers I use it works best with BZ. I could always do a playthrough just flat modding then do a clean install, but I don't want too much effort.

[bitter viper]

The mod is available at the link in the first pinned message

But the latest version that vedal used hasn't been released yet

[foggy niche]

Is there instructions provided somewhere in this on how to install?

[foggy niche]

Has anyone else successfully installed the mod and if so can you tell me how to install it? I can't find any sort of instruction on how to do this.

[fading anvil]

If you don't mind not having the latest version you can follow the latest guide: https://github.com/Alexejhero/Neurosama-Subnautica-Mod/releases

[fading anvil]

finally

did Vedal take it ?

[remote musk]

HE CAN'T GRAB IT

[cunning charm]

[remote musk]

y'all you forgot to add the frickin' anneel lore

[foggy niche]

LMFAO

[fading anvil]

"forgot"

it's clearly part of the lore

[foggy niche]

What if Anny played Subnautica? It would be amazing to see her play with the mod.

[regal geode]

is there a way to make like a smaller, pick-upable anneel

so vedal can put it in a tank

[bitter viper]

Yeah it would be very easy to do that

[regal geode]

[fading anvil]

also did the remote commands broke mid stream ?

[bitter viper]

No

Why do you ask

[fading anvil]

didn't you try to spawn the anneal several times ?

[bitter viper]

Yeah he just never looked behind him

[fading anvil]

oh

[regal geode]

yeah Vedal is incredible at just. missing stuff

I honestly thought for a while there he was goin g to miss the anneel in the ship as well

he must've looked directly at it like 3 times and just not registered it

do the ermfish or ermshark have any unique behaviour when theyre near an anneel?

[bitter viper]

No

[regal geode]

guess I was just imagining them acting different around her then

[undone elm]

are there any more funny fish? I can't remember its been so long since I've looked in here lol

[steady echo]

I don’t know why, but I always thought that the anneel was gonna be a hostile mob lol

[spare tide]

I thought an anneel egg would work best imo. Much harder than just making a small anneel though. Would need an egg model and egg spawn locations etc. Then obviously the hardest part. Vedal would have to find one.

[bitter viper]

Fwd @true lintel

[true lintel]

on the list

[bitter viper]

up to you

[undone elm]

what if an anneel egg looked kinda like this? tried to make it look a bit like a vanilla egg

inspired a bit by the sand shake egg

but also eel eggs irl are perfect spheres

[bitter viper]

It kinda needs to have a star

Otherwise it might be hard to tell apart from base game eggs

[regal geode]

you would also need to put a big red ring around it and an arrow

or Vedal will never see it

[cunning charm]

Something like this? (not final version) (Also please tell me if you want specific things changed 👍 )

(I also still need to add the white hair tuft thingies that go into the ears)

[spare tide]

I feel the colour scheme could be changed to match anny a little better, but this is certainly subnauticaBZ coded which is a great style choice.

Any chance we could put an objective marker for Vedal for one of the eggs or even right next to the alien containment on the Mercury II in a fairly bright spot like near the base of the root.

[cunning charm]

Yeah I literally just picked a color that kinda matches the drawing not even any real texures or anything yet

Speaking of which does subnautica allow trasparency of some kind?

because eel eggs are kinda transparent and you can see the baby eel within

[spare tide]

I've seen transparency in models. The ships glass for example. Not seen on eggs in BZ but it does exist in Subnautica with the cuddlefish

[cunning charm]

(even here you can see the baby anneel within the egg)

[spare tide]

Actually, forgot about sea monkeys and trivalves eggs. They have transparency in BZ. Also the Titan holefish egg is a good example.

[cunning charm]

Would something like this be better? (The colors are still wrong)

(I can also change the size of the ears to be smaller alongside the egg)

[spare tide]

I like it, it pops more and looks more protected. The colour of the egg kind of looks like the Iris of Annys eye in her current model, So maybe we could play with that.

[fading anvil]

maybe make the egg transparent and inside add a small anneel curled up ?

[cunning charm]

I should do that

but I'll need an anneel model

or I could make a small one myself

[fading anvil]

I think we have it here somewhere

wait

[spare tide]

I was thinking chibi anny with the shocked eyes as if she got trapped in the egg then realised that would be far too difficult even if it would be funny.

[soft basin]

please don't put a full size model inside, for performance considerations

[cunning charm]

Also does someone have color/texture recommendations? they'd be greatly appreciated

[fringe laurel]

Is it really a modded item if your framerate doesn't decrease by 50% whenever it's on the screen

[fading anvil]

you have a point :/

[cunning charm]

I'd still want the full size model so that I can use it as a reference for the smol baby model

[fading anvil]

I'm searching for it but I think we need to ask bred

[cunning charm]

or I could just

[fading anvil]

found it

[cunning charm]

[fading anvil]

1 sec

[cunning charm]

Is something like this fine enough for the hair tufts?

[fading anvil]

does this work ?

[cunning charm]

https://tenor.com/view/neurosama-ip-grabber-gif-12703438747976747309

yeah it works

[spare tide]

Anny basic colour palette
Eye: #725B90
Hair: #F3D7D9
Ear: #F4D2C5
Ear Tip: #C39A91
Bra: #7E7F88
Top: #FFD7E2
Star: #FEFFC6

[cunning charm]

thank you

[spare tide]

These colours are with a colour picker, so they might be off due to model lighting, but I tried to pick middle colours.

[fading anvil]

can we just add signs before the end scene that ask the player to store all ermfish in a storage container ?

or maybe let the player kill the ermfish (it will be the only way to kill them) to create the chicken bake ?

[cunning charm]

https://tenor.com/view/neuro-sama-neurosama-vedal-vtuber-fumo-gif-17776654885694552877

this but then and chicken bake (why is there no chicken bake emote)

This is with the anny colors

Nvm better picture

[bitter viper]

@cunning charm do you have confirmation from @true lintel that this feature is going to be added?

[cunning charm]

uuh

I'm just making it, its fine if it doesn't get added

[fading anvil]

it's in todo

[cunning charm]

(looks good on my portfolio anyways)

[spare tide]

That egg looks awesome

[cunning charm]

time to make small anneel (painful)

[spare tide]

Anyone going to add aneel lore or is the joke of leaving it blank sticking around?

[cunning charm]

add all the anneel lore in the egg only

[fading anvil]

I think it's funny

[soft basin]

also uuh im not sure if the transparency will work, i had issues last time (but that was with the particle system default material) not sure if it still the case for the regular materials

[bitter viper]

The game just reduces the scale of the big fish I think for fish in alien containment

[cunning charm]

I want to make a small low quality less detailed anneel to go into the egg like real eel eggs

[bitter viper]

Ooh

How are you gonna fit it?

[cunning charm]

wdym?

[bitter viper]

The anneel is pretty long and thin

[true lintel]

you could put the star in there

[fading anvil]

it will be curled ?

[cunning charm]

I was thinking of curling it up

[fading anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/vedal-turtle-chat-chat-bubble-bubble-gif-3659632329315031972

also can we add a program in C disk ?

[bitter viper]

I support this idea

But we need disk images for vedal
CC @fading anvil @soft basin

[fading anvil]

[soft basin]

uuh do you want a new model as well?

[fading anvil]

am I overthinking this?

[bitter viper]

No, just the vedal sprite and the unlock sprite with the whole disk

[fading anvil]

Do we want the image to have the same background as the other disks?
or can I just use this:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/992220116345430086/1187545475264565330/firefox_2023-12-21_19-01-30.gif?ex=659746e8&is=6584d1e8&hm=1866627bb7e9349193052bae707f2a96c8d2a5e955bff30924cee851ce97d5f4&

Take an image and maybe resize the tutel of course

[soft basin]

oh i might have got rid of the disk file

not sure why i'd do that, but i think i can restore it from the fbx

oh i found it nvm

[thorn furnace]

fwiw you can probably take off the subdivs from the full size model to cut a lot of detail

[soft basin]

i think that gif is too small, i can't crop it properly

[fading anvil]

yeah I'm fixing that

[thorn furnace]

i had a shot at giving the gif more empty space if that's any use

[soft basin]

it's still pretty low res, and we need a still frame anyway, so the stream screenshot would work the best

[thorn furnace]

i forgot how much parts of this relied on subdiv to look good

[regal geode]

having the capability to place signals on any object in the game world was a genius decision whoever did that btw

[soft basin]

how does this look

[spare tide]

Kawaii

[fading anvil]

It looks simple and I like

[bitter viper]

Looks great

[cunning charm]

Progress on low detail baby anneel compared to full anneel

Only need to do hair and tail colors

[bitter viper]

Creepy

[fading anvil]

I had to

[bitter viper]

Does anyone have an mp3 of program in c?

[thorn furnace]

the vedal ai cover?

[bitter viper]

Ya

[thorn furnace]

ill try and grab one

why is the only one on youtube 1 hour long

[fading anvil]

The original MP3 is in one of the forum threads

I will try to find it

original thread (at least I think it is)

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1115994153969537084

I also have this

[cunning charm]

Low poly anneel complete!

[spare tide]

Looks great! Time to curl 😮

[cunning charm]

[spare tide]

To me it makes more sense to curl with spikes out rather than up or down if you get what I am trying to say. The anneel is going to have to be quite small otherwise it would puncture the egg! Could always make the spikes less defined for the egg.

[cunning charm]

Yeah

The way I'm doing the spikes is having a single plane with a texture

so I could just

[soft basin]

can you make it bite own tail would look silly

[spare tide]

Ouroboros anny

[soft basin]

though i doubt it's a detail worthy of such a small piece

[spare tide]

Neuro Karaoke tonight, something good to listen to as I get stuff done 🙂

[cunning charm]

Does this look alright?

Maybe I could make it a bit bigger

This is probably the final version

[spare tide]

I love it

[cunning charm]

Now to test if it shows up in any good looking way in unity

[spare tide]

That's not the way I thought anny would bend, but honestly it looks really good so as long as it looks good in unity, this is gold.

[cunning charm]

the image texture for the anneel didn't save

you don't see the spikes anyway I can just remove them

Are these eyes better or do you like the previous eyes more?

That snoop droop I'll change that a bit

[fading anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/concorde-gif-704481095228021886

[cunning charm]

Which of these is the best? (+ backside)

Personally I like the 3rd one most

[soft basin]

maybe it could be a bit more uuh "egg-shaped" ? most of the in game eggs are a bit taller

[fading anvil]

And I'm not sure if the white layer sounding the egg will work well when the player holds it

or will it be fine ?

[bitter viper]

Can the player even hold eggs?

[cunning charm]

uuh

Well

here's the render

If things need changed then don't be afraid to tell me 👍

[fading anvil]

don't think so nvm

[bitter viper]

Thanks for the image, we can use this as the icon

[cunning charm]

UNITY DOWNLOAD PLEASE

let me test anneel egg

[fading anvil]

I can test it

can you send the file ?

[cunning charm]

Are the materials not included?

[thorn furnace]

try gltf

lemme see if i can find the settings i used

[fading anvil]

some of them did

[thorn furnace]

did you check this box when exporting?

[cunning charm]

I'll name the materials

[cunning charm]

yes I did

[thorn furnace]

idr the details but i think i had to change the path mode when i exported the eel

copy might be correct looking through my search history

oh wait actually i just read the hover tip in the screenshot and it says exactly that

[cunning charm]

Well just to be safe here's both GLB and FBX with the packaged materials

[fading anvil]

glb not supported

[thorn furnace]

the fbx has textures for me in blender

[cunning charm]

FBX should work then

[fading anvil]

same issue

[cunning charm]

Maybe you need to assign them there in unity? that was also a problem with the hiyori fish

In the top right when you click on the model there should be a place where you can assign materials

[fading anvil]

the anneel it self is one object

[thorn furnace]

textures also load on https://3dviewer.net/ so im a little lost

[cunning charm]

Yeah, there is one material for the entire anneel

[fading anvil]

but it's just white in unity

[cunning charm]

Yeah you probably need to assign the anneel texture to the anneel model

the material should be called babyanneel

or just anneel

[fading anvil]

the anneel material is just white

[thorn furnace]

only other thing i remember doing to make the aneel work was packing the textures into the blend but i don't see how that'd fix this

o

this might be related

[cunning charm]

👍 will do that

[thorn furnace]

on an unrelated note my gpu might be about to die

[true lintel]

the name Material.001 is already used (from the base anneel model), rename it to something else

[thorn furnace]

nevermind that was just unity covering my screen in random flickering black boxes

[cunning charm]

There isn't one?

I don't have a material called material.001

[fading anvil]

there is a new version

[true lintel]

o sorry i wasn't paying attention

[cunning charm]

newer version incoming

Online 3d model viewer says that Anneel Egg.fbm is missing

I have no idea what that is

[fading anvil]

nothing changed

[cunning charm]

[soft basin]

can you send the blend?

[cunning charm]

oh yeah

When I download this from discord and open it in blender again it has all the materials

so they are all packaged into the file

[soft basin]

this good?

normals thing can be fixed by this

[thorn furnace]

doesn't look like it

[soft basin]

you need to unpack materials

and textures in the import menu

[thorn furnace]

could never hearing of this menu be the issue perchance

[soft basin]

no i think there was an issue with blender having some images confused

i just did the cleanup and re exported

[cunning charm]

please work

[soft basin]

mr. @true lintel will you add this at some point?

[thorn furnace]

oh wait i now understand

suits me right for never trying to import the eel into unity

[fading anvil]

are you sure it works now

?

[thorn furnace]

you have to put the textures into unity

[fading anvil]

i did

[thorn furnace]

they appeared on the eel for me when i dragged them into the assets

[cunning charm]

its fine

probably

To be completely honest I could have put the ear textures into the main texture too

[fading anvil]

yeah it works now

now just the eyes look weird ?

nah It's fine

[soft basin]

[fading anvil]

I think the surrounding layer should be white no ?

[cunning charm]

the textures on the shell thingy and the ears aren't there

[spare tide]

10/10 egg

[cunning charm]

I think

The ones on the ears are 100% not there

but the shell may just be due to lighting

[soft basin]

uhh there was no textures for anything but the eel

[cunning charm]

uuh

[soft basin]

[cunning charm]

this right one here is the ear texture

idk why I made that one seperate

[fading anvil]

Also how did you get the eyes clear

[soft basin]

for future, try to make everything in one material, it's also better for performance

[fading anvil]

?

[spare tide]

As long as nobody spawns 10k anneel eggs I'm sure it will be fine

[soft basin]

what do you mean exactly by that ?

[cunning charm]

but anyway that looks awesome

[fading anvil]

I'm talking about this ^

[soft basin]

all thanks to mr. Govorunb

[cunning charm]

alright 👍

[soft basin]

uuh there was some issue with rendering order, the cutout transparency fixed it

[fading anvil]

[cunning charm]

I just remembered, every color for the hiyorifish I made is a different texture

[undone elm]

The anneel egg is so cute!!

I'm glad I could help a little...

[cunning charm]

I couldn't have made it without your initial design, you helped a lot

[fading anvil]

Do we need more Anny noises ?

[bitter viper]

If you can find any sure

But I am limiting it to wholesome ones

I already sifted through a whole database of anny sounds but uhh

Yeah

[undone elm]

I mean im sure some of the less wholesome ones can be used as hurt sounds? surely in that context people wont be able to tell

[bitter viper]

you'd think so

[cunning charm]

Should I write lore for the Anneel egg?

[bitter viper]

can you even scan eggs in the first place?

i'm not sure

[steady echo]

You cannot

well you might be able to scan an EGG

so that you have "creature egg" in your PDA

not one for individual eggs

[cunning charm]

alright 👍

[cunning charm]

If you guys want I could also make an ermshark egg, since those are also not catchable

[waxen orchid]

If anyone wish to implement the coldfish into the game in any way, I'd be very happy. I don't want to push it onto anyone here though

[bitter viper]

i like that idea

it also shouldnt be difficult to add the ermshark egg once we already have the anneel egg

[fading anvil]

Can we create more posters ?

[undone elm]

woah shark eggs are weird looking

[cunning charm]

I'm thinking of making the Ermshark egg basically a reskin of the Anneel egg (also makes it instantly clear what one is if you've already found the other), but instead of the ears it will have the thingy at the top of 's head and her ribbons, and the broken heart thingy instead of the star.

baby shark so cute

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1235302302080827504/tutelxdxsocute.gif

I could also try to recreate an actual real life shark-egg

but it's probably a good idea to have some uniformity to the eggs i think

[undone elm]

should we just put the anneel egg in his lifepod so there's no way he'll miss it?

[fading anvil]

I think we will find a creative way for him to notice it

[steady echo]

We should make signal to the alien containment in the mercury 2 and have an Anneel Egg and maybe an erm shark egg be there. That way he gets the blueprints for the containment, because I’m not even sure he will recognize the ship is in two pieces otherwise and will miss the blueprint entirely

[cunning charm]

Does this look good for the egg?

also if someone can send the ermshark model so that I can make a smol baby low poly version I would greatly appreciate it

also are materials that don't use textures but shaders automatically saved in the model itself?

Or are shaders really bad for performance and I should use a single texture for everything

[thorn furnace]

iirc the issue with multiple matierials is that they get rendered on seperate passes or something

[cunning charm]

mhm I see

so basically use one texture

[thorn furnace]

ideally do as much as you can with one texture and one material

[cunning charm]

Maybe I should update the anneel egg to then also only use one texture and material

[thorn furnace]

i wouldn't worry too much about it

[cunning charm]

alright then

[bitter viper]

for the ermshark?

these eggs are pretty different from the base-game ones

not that it's an issue, because they have to be easily identifiable so vedal doesn't miss them

but it'a bit out of place i think, at least for the ermshark

[cunning charm]

Maybe then something like this where its still transparent but only barely?

[bitter viper]

it looks too similar to the anneel egg imho

the base-game eggs have a lot of diversity and all look very different from one another

i think it would be cool if it was a different design

[cunning charm]

Maybe something longer like this (With a different shell thingy around it)

Or should I just forgo the entire transparency thing?

[thorn furnace]

just as a poc i tried to make a single material that is both transparent and not transparent, wouldn't recommend it as its a hassle and doesn't even seem to work when exported

[cunning charm]

What about something like this?

(I literally just did some random stuff and hoped it came out okay )

[bitter viper]

it looks better

[steady echo]

I would’ve also put a bow on the front, but that’s me

[bitter viper]

i agree

[steady echo]

Could you also make those struts off the side a brown color to match the ahoge? I wanna see how that looks

[cunning charm]

it looks a bit cursed, but a lot better than the previous one imo

[cunning charm]

Made the front connection also look better

Btw, this model is already a bit bigger than the anneel egg, so maybe having the egg not be transparent is a good idea for this one

I actually like this a lot

High quality render

[steady echo]

I actually really like this

[cunning charm]

it was a great idea to not just make tha anneel egg but again

I really like it

This is probably close to how it'll look in game, which still is pretty good

[spare tide]

Woah, ermshark egg is brilliant 🙂

[bitter viper]

I agree, it looks good

Can you send a transparent PNG of it that we can use as the icon please?

[cunning charm]

Here is the render

[bitter viper]

Thanks, I had missed it

[true lintel]

any takers for item tooltips for the eggs? also, since creatures born from eggs (in containment) are pickupable, the item versions of the anneel/ermshark will need tooltips as well

[bitter viper]

For context the current tooltip for Ermfish is "erm" and for Tutel it's "that's crazy"

[cunning charm]

What about "SoCute" for the anneel egg, "SoEvil" for the ermshark egg, "no way, baby anneel" for the baby anneel, and "EvilSoCute" for the baby ermshark?

[fringe laurel]

have the ermshark one say "Watch your ankles" tbh

[cunning charm]

That's better

[true lintel]

A small egg from a fox- uh, eel- uh, just don't think about it.
this is my best for anneel egg please help

if you know an anny-related meme that could go on an egg item you can be the one to singlehandedly save this tooltip

[steady echo]

Tool tip for baby anneel: Known for spilling drinks, keep away from filtered water.

Tool tip for baby Ermshark: Erf

[steady echo]

This one is the best anny meme that I can think of. Most of her fans will laugh at this.

[cunning charm]

https://tenor.com/view/korone-yes-gif-18408532

those are good (better than mine at least )

[steady echo]

WE RISE
as a tool tip for the ermshark would also be a funny callback

The chat would spam "WE RISE WE RISE WE RISE WE RISE WE RISE WE RISE WE RISE " when there was a cloud of them on the first subnautica streams, slowing down the game

[fading anvil]

That's only if Vedal will notice it

Or we can start spamming it ourselves

[steady echo]

it would be funny to have a tooltip that extended to below the screen with just "WE RISE" over and over again for the ermshark baby

[true lintel]

https://imgur.com/W9WEHmz would look something like this

[steady echo]

LMAO

[true lintel]

also thank you i'll use this

[steady echo]

glad to help!

[steady echo]

also chat would explode if they saw this
would love to see it

[fading anvil]

What if we let chat spawn stuff by praying

[steady echo]

pls ermfish 0 0 0

[cunning charm]

please spawn 500 ermsharks

[bitter viper]

it would actually be really funny if chat could issue spawn commands for modded creatures with a low chance of success

[undone elm]

pls spawn 999999999999 ermfish

[fringe laurel]

Chance to spawn an ermshark for every WE RISE message

[steady echo]

feasibly, how many ermfish can we spawn before theres a preformance dip

[bitter viper]

@true lintel what do you think?

so for chat interaction, we let them spawn something from a very restricted pool of techtypes

and either have it be a low chance of success, or we make it a bits reward

[true lintel]

maybe a message count threshold so you have to collectively chant to make it happen (like netplayz suggested)

[bitter viper]

how far along is vedal with his playthrough?

[true lintel]

mmm maybe like 15-20% (ish)

[bitter viper]

thinking about it more, i believe that anything that would require chat to spam is a bad idea

in the sense that, that's what the whole chat will be for the entire stream

[true lintel]

that's the subnautica experience though

ermfish on screen for 0.1s, chat is unreadable for the next minute

but yeah channel points or something is the next best thing (if you want to do it at all)

[bitter viper]

i will talk to vedal about it tomorrow

[fading anvil]

Also can we let Vedal build the wall speakers on the outside of the base ?

[bitter viper]

no

[fading anvil]

btw did you talk with Vedal ?

Alex did you add Eddy199 to the credits ?

[bitter viper]

yes

[fading anvil]

oh so it's just not in the readme yet

[remote musk]

VEDAL GOT THE EVILFISH PLUSH LOADING SCREEN

[fading anvil]

do we want to add it as a new background ?

[cunning charm]

Does the build of the mod he's playing have the eggs or are they for the next stream/after that?

[true lintel]

eggs are in

[cunning charm]

[fading anvil]

Let's goooo

[regal geode]

did he already miss the anneel egg or is that somewhere else

[bitter viper]

im not sure

[remote musk]

add it, reacts and all

[cunning charm]

How do the creature eggs work? do you need to put them into a fish tank or something like that?

Maybe I should also make an and egg then so that those can also be in a fishtank

(or can you already put them in?)

[fading anvil]

[true lintel]

missed a minus on the last coordinate

[fading anvil]

Can Vedal build the entertainment module?

[bitter viper]

Can Vedal find the entertainment module fragments?

[cunning charm]

With some of those red circles and arrows he ca-.... nvm he would still find a way to miss them

[remote musk]

holy roast batman
mans just went "ok but can he even FIND the pieces though"

[primal flax]

What are the loading screens so far btw?

[undone elm]

make it so the content can be given the mesmer effect and lock his screen to it as a last ditch effort

[remote musk]

I need a compilation of tutel's reactions to the recordings added in the mod lol

[regal geode]

i cant believe you guys actually added red circles and arrows btw

[remote musk]

wait they actually did it?!

[cunning charm]

yes

[fading anvil]

[regal geode]

So is this actually the crowd controlled stream or did that end up not working out?

[true lintel]

we haven't even started cooking

[regal geode]

[fading anvil]

Can we force Vedal to go search for the entertainment module

I'm joking but

[bitter viper]

we're trying

[fading anvil]

Just take control over his keyboard and mouse

[cunning charm]

does he even remember getting the eggs?

[fading anvil]

If he won't find it today, can we add it to the resources scanner ?

[bitter viper]

?

he already found it

[fading anvil]

Oh

[bitter viper]

not watching stream,

[waxen orchid]

Well... here's a creature I created just because neuro called vedal a worm. A worm+eel hybrid

[cunning charm]

tutorm

[fading anvil]

Doom

[regal geode]

You put Doom in the game

[cunning charm]

How easy are model swaps in this game?

I could replace the ice worm with tutorm

[regal geode]

Worm987

[bitter viper]

No

i mean i guess if its just texture replacement then pretty easy

[cunning charm]

I was just throwing an idea around

[remote musk]

kinda curious what the egg item descriptions are at the moment

[fading anvil]

why did you add a volume slider

lock it on full volume

[fading anvil]

Bread fish ?

[regal geode]

make it happen

[bitter viper]

We can't just keep adding new fish

That's a bit boring

[fading anvil]

Can we create a quest ?

[regal geode]

"we cant just keep adding new fish"

That's where you're wrong

[steady echo]

Replace all base fish

I still think the ermfish in this mod should have s been light blue and called arctic ermfish

They are normal ones, but they are cold

[bitter viper]

We thought about arctic Ermfish

But I decided against it

I don't remember why

[frigid kettle]

look, man, the mod was originally called SCHIZO.dll which implies the intention to make the game emit voices... and to have many voices... you add MORE FISH

[fading anvil]

Are you adding the crowd control?

Or did that idea get scrapped

[bitter viper]

It's not scrapped

But it won't make it in for today

[fading anvil]

[fading anvil]

so it's going to work with bits ?

[regal geode]

I think the crowd control could take some inspiration from other games with cc and have some like, events instead of just "spawn thing".

but idk how much time you have for dev

im just thinking of how they do it in noita, some of the options there are more fun t han just spawning an enemy next to you

[cunning charm]

ermcon redeem

[whole bison]

can there be a 'drop random item'?

[cunning charm]

that would be great but vedal will veto that instantly

[regal geode]

even if it's just "spawn an ermshark attack squad" instead of just spawning 1 ermshark

[fading anvil]

the original idea was to just pray and there is a chance something will spawn

[regal geode]

so you build up a list of these different events and then every few minutes present like 3 of them to be voted on

[cunning charm]

Maybe because Ermsharks attack s, there could be a redeem that spawns a bunch of s and Ermsharks to mentally torture Bedal by showing his own kind getting torn to shreds by vicious sharks

[whole bison]

i have a few good ideas: can't move 5s and oxygen drops 50%

[fading anvil]

we still want the game to be playable

[whole bison]

true. there could also be positive redeams

[graceful belfry]

"Give " is always a good one

[cunning charm]

spawn one of those mobs that locks the screen to it and a bunch of Ermsharks

[cunning charm]

fill entire inventory with

[fringe laurel]

lock the screen to an ermshark

[graceful belfry]

His inventory is always full anyways

[cunning charm]

Make all ermsharks heal damage and oxygen instead of deal damage could be a fun one maybe

not that that one will ever be triggered

add a redeem that randomly deals damage after a random amount of seconds every redeem after it and stacks with itself

[bitter viper]

maybe it was a mistake to point you guys to this thread for ideas

[regal geode]

[fringe laurel]

time bomb redeem, it kills vedal in 1 minute and if someone redeems it again it resets the timer

[bitter viper]

we don't want any ideas at the moment thank you

[regal geode]

fair enough

[cunning charm]

👍 alright

[bitter viper]

we will probably need ideas at a later point during the week

[cunning charm]

Someone had this idea in the suggestions channel, if you're doing this one then I could try to make the model after class

[undone elm]

slug!

[fading anvil]

I want a Slug on the sea truck windshield

[undone elm]

slugs attaching to the seatruck that vedal has to get out and remove

[cunning charm]

cerbslug (I don't mind if this doesn't make it into the mod, just wanted to challenge myself to make it )

[fading anvil]

I saw your commit Govo

[fading anvil]

like this ?

[true lintel]

https://i.imgur.com/OJfqy0y.png the icons will be about this big so the text might need to be bigger

if you make the text shorter (like "You" or something) you can scale it up much more

[fading anvil]

?

[true lintel]

looks nice

[snow tendon]

Someone hire me plz

:)

[trail sleet]

found a few more exploits with the extension, will share later

[pearl stirrup]

Neurothian

A Neuro or evil leviathan

That's my idea

Peace

[balmy apex]

Neuro bread fragments spawn around the ocean and Vedal has to collect them to bring Neuro bread back.

[warm axle]

can we have neuro control movement for 30 seconds as a redeem

[steady echo]

I don’t think we are doing redeems anymore. We closed that thread.

[bitter viper]

lmao govo you're already here

Below Zero Mod

[true lintel]

https://github.com/Alexejhero/Neurosama-Subnautica-Mod/releases/latest here's the mod release

[zenith falcon]

You have unlocked new role

[true lintel]

[bitter viper]

Thanks everyone for helping with the mod.
Huge thank you to @soft basin for the ermfish and the ermshark, two big staples of this mod.
Huge thank you to @true lintel as well for basically writing 85% of the below zero mod and overseeing it.

It was fun working with everyone.

🗣️ SCHIZOcorp out

(oh and sorry @cunning charm for not adding the hiyorifish )

[soft basin]

it was fun 👍 thanks to everyone who participated 🧎

[ember flume]

ayo quick question: did we end up putting in the ERM leviathan?

[bitter viper]

i dont think it was ever finished was it

[ember flume]

yeah the animation wasnt but someone was talking abt putting it in as a statue but idk if that ever endet up happening

[bitter viper]

nope

not to my knowledge

[ember flume]

Aye thamk