Below Zero Mod

[soft basin]

oh that s great 👍

[thorn furnace]

i should probably do my homework

[thorn furnace]

majestic

[wind stratus]

evolution at its finest

[thorn furnace]

(each colour is a seperate island in the texture, i think i've split it up reasonably well)

[ripe drift]

I love biodiversity

[thorn furnace]

idk how will this will send but here's the current version for anyone who wants to take a peek

i haven't looked at the scale of any of the other creatures, oops

[bitter viper]

i will update the scale in unity

[thorn furnace]

alright, good to know i don't have to worry about that

is there a set way the skeleton should be laid out btw?

[soft basin]

i hope you don't plan to keep the x3 subdiv

[thorn furnace]

that's just so i can make sure the topology works lol

also just realised there's little bumps in front of the ears

also it looks really silly without any subdivs

[bitter viper]

i would like an mp3 of this

#starboard message

(just vedal obv)

[ripe drift]

[trail sleet]

@ cj

[thorn furnace]

i can try

:( no luck, it has an annoying sound in the middle i can't get rid of

@bitter viper idk if this is any good

i might've accidentally removed too much low-end

[latent cedar]

maybe the soundboard one is good enough? you can right click and download them as ogg then convert

ah nvm its got background noise

bred did a pretty good job

[bitter viper]

how have we surpassed #1095957005816045618 in amount of messages?

[trail sleet]

time to surpass #1112082183235047506

[bitter viper]

Todo: check death icon

[undone elm]

im not very tallented... anything I can do to contribute? even if its just ideas or feedback

[trail sleet]

oh

oh

i forgot to remove reply

[latent cedar]

my attempt so far at the mrow

still got that distortion but it's very hard to remove

[trail sleet]

thats perfect

theres a death icon?

[latent cedar]

if anyone else wants to take a crack at it, this is the cod quote being spoken at the same time

if it works

[bitter viper]

There is no clear path for the mod and there's nothing that we want to add - I've mostly been taking 3d models and art and ideas from everyone and putting them into the mod

So if anyone wants to contribute (with anything!) they are welcome to

[undone elm]

:noted:

ok here we go

[bitter viper]

When you die in bz there is a loading icon in the bottom right

Not sure if that's the case for sn as well

[trail sleet]

hmmm

we can reuse the old sb icon

[bitter viper]

Yeah I already plan on reusing it for saving

Not sure if that icon is there in sn as well

[trail sleet]

@bitter viper can you tell me everything needed to do the keychain?

like you explained it in stream

but i couldnt remember all of that

[bitter viper]

It's probably one of the most difficult things to do

You would need a 3d model of a chain first

[latent cedar]

okay i've had vedal meowing on repeat for long enough, this is the best i can do for the meow, i might just be hearing the crunch bc i have had it on loop for an hour

[bitter viper]

Thank you

[trail sleet]

what else?

if you dont mind explaining the whole proccess

[bitter viper]

3d model of a chain link*

[bitter viper]

Bruh

I might as well do it myself instead of explaining it

And also

Idk the process

I would just be winging it

Or following a random YT guide

[trail sleet]

okay

[trail sleet]

wow i am rereading this an hour after and this is the most useless information

you can only be a programmer by watching tutorials

[fading anvil]

No one can leave tutorial hell

[thorn furnace]

ngl i hate it less without the gloss

[soft basin]

looks cute

[thorn furnace]

i love debugging uvs

i was missing one seam :3

[soft basin]

debugging uvs? what is that

[thorn furnace]

[soft basin]

so much real estate

[thorn furnace]

i'm sure i could've packed them more closely if i understood what i was doing at first

[soft basin]

well it's not that detailed anyway, so shouldnt really matter

[thorn furnace]

i accidentally gave it a receeding hairline

ok for some reason the hair doesn't appear but only in the texture paint window

imma leave this here for tonight

[soft basin]

can you drop the file (i can take a look if there is a problem with hair)

[thorn furnace]

tell me if anything is broken im not sure i re-packed all the textures

[soft basin]

[thorn furnace]

oh for fuck's sake

it would appear the textures did not want to save

[soft basin]

nooo

[thorn furnace]

thank god i took a screenshot of the texture at least

look at the bright side, i get to fix my uvs :3

[thorn furnace]

@soft basin

i forgot to blend the fin colour with the body, oh well

[soft basin]

it worketh

[thorn furnace]

good lol

the eyes are a little bit off but shrug

[soft basin]

seems good 👍

[cunning charm]

Is there any hiyori fish or something like that in the mod?

I could try my hand at making it if it isn't already there

[soft basin]

i don't think there is

[cunning charm]

Hiyori jellyfish concept:

Rarely spawns, doesn't move (maybe some slight up and down animation) and looks directly at player

After a few (30 or so) seconds it despawns, it also despawns when you look at it for more than 2 or 3 seconds. (scan time should be less than 2 seconds so that it is scannable)

[marsh mesa]

Would make sense since Neuro said that Hiyori lies at the bottom of the ocean.

[willow flax]

have particles that slowly build up a black rectangle in front of her eyes whenever you look at her and if it finishes she turns black and white before fading away

The particles dissipate when looking away tho

[marsh mesa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W447_uMfHX0

[cunning charm]

That's probably going to have to be done in code, which I can't do

Nice idea though

[marsh mesa]

Imagine if it was a Hiyori's head with hair that moves like jellyfish and when you look at her to try to understand what are you looking at she dissapears, would be propably too creepy though.

[cunning charm]

Would also be extremely funny seeing vedal get scared

[cunning charm]

hiyori

[cunning charm]

Both hiyori's are done(?)

If anyone has some suggestions on how the scribbles could work instead of just r e c t a n g l e feel free to say

[bitter viper]

wow this is

interesting

@cunning charm can you export as fbx please

also im not sure how to handle this creature - whether to make it its own thing or make it like a rare variation of the ermfish

[cunning charm]

FBX was being incredibly difficult

but here they are

[frigid kettle]

make it a rare ermfish, it's almost like a rare dark encounter, maybe 1/100 ermfish and 1/200 for the b/w one

and we only take soundbytes like "help me" and "im so sad" lol

[bitter viper]

What about the Arctic ermfish?

I was gonna have a version of the ermfish which had white hair

Or maybe we replace the ermfish entirely with that

For BZ

[frigid kettle]

it would change things up a little bit

is it possible to have one creature have variants? ie ermfish with 3 diff models and 3 diff sound banks?

[bitter viper]

They would be different creatures though, no?

'variants' in what way/in what scope/for what purpose?

[frigid kettle]

i was wondering if it could be one creature with subtypes and when it spawns randomize which type it becomes, but then again that's too much work, might as well make them separate creatures

so yeah different creatures with similar names

[bitter viper]

I want some way to enable/disable feature flags for creatures - for example not spawn any of the creatures until he's progressed a bit into the game

[frigid kettle]

oh that would be cool, we can transition from normal ermfish to super depressed hiyori ermfish LOL

[bitter viper]

But I don't want the fish to just not spawn because then we get into the same problem of the save being old and with original cellscache

[frigid kettle]

i thought at one point we could write spawn code for new creatures into our old ones... but, yeah, what could ever go wrong with that idea

idk when i'll have time but i wanted to make a glowing sea star that goes "hic" ...possibly the simplest creature ever (and a very subtle reference to neuro's mom)

[bitter viper]

Is there any way for you to update the tutel icons?

(I think you made the original ones, right?)

[frigid kettle]

yep, how do you need em?

[bitter viper]

The model was updated and now has actual eyes and a mouth

[frigid kettle]

oh right yes

its no longer two little black spheres lol

[bitter viper]

Plus the fact that they are frontal shots looks a bit weird - might look a bit better if it was rotated to the left

(ideally to the right to match other Subnautica items but ermfish is already rotated to the left so w/e)

However wait, nevermind for now as the current model doesn't have any idle frames

[frigid kettle]

ha i had messed around with tutel at an angle and i thought it looked kinda weird

obviouisly you want him with that silly smile on his face, right?

[bitter viper]

That's not its current mouth

[frigid kettle]

i know this is old

i was just showing how i found the angle weird

[bitter viper]

I was thinking - the tutel also has an animation for going into his shell

[frigid kettle]

no way

[bitter viper]

I'm not sure if/how that should be incorporated into the actual inventory item

Like for example if you hold it in your hands it could stay hidden

[frigid kettle]

that would actually be cute yes

[bitter viper]

...Would that mean the inventory icon should be just the shell?

[frigid kettle]

🤔

for now lemme see what i can get out of it in its current state

[bitter viper]

If you want to enable the shell only thing, you can instantiate the tutel prefab in the scene, locate it's mesh renderer and open one of the top properties called blend keys or blend shapes or whatever, and underneath that there will be a bunch of sliders

[frigid kettle]

looks a lot cuter with an unlit shader

[bitter viper]

Unlit is what is used in sn anyway

(I mean it's specular but it's set to 0 so basically the efect of unlit)

Looks cuter like this than the old image

[frigid kettle]

yep

[bitter viper]

We can replace the old icons then?

However I would want the other two versions to have a different mouth

(not sure which one I haven't done the facial animations yet)

[frigid kettle]

we can replace the icons indeed

also the shell alone looks a bit bare

theres no holes, he just shrinks into the shell

hahahahaha

ok ok hang on ill redo the proper format and all

[bitter viper]

Wait that second one doesnt look right

The outline material is the wrong one

(is green, should be orange)

Apart from that I think it's fine

Also yeah the feet aren't idle

W1n7er sent me a new fbx with an idle anim

But I've yet to import it

[frigid kettle]

ye i know, i was just fucking around with the sliders and textures dw

you can use those if you like em

or if you update the anims lmk ill pull

the cooked one is so cute you dont wanna eat it lol

oh and on the feet theyre in the middle of a step here, i actually do this by just running unity and pausing on the frame i want

[frigid kettle]

updated with the feet caught on a better frame

and the head is more level on this frame

[soft basin]

uuh maybe it will be okay if we have them with very low chance of spawning

[cunning charm]

the FBX files are a more up-to-date version btw

[soft basin]

it is from fbx

[cunning charm]

ah ok, i thought that it wasn't because you replied to the blend file

[cunning charm]

Oh wait i get it now, you were talking about the tri count

I don't know how to lower

[soft basin]

let's see what Alex has to say, maybe it's ok

[cunning charm]

Ok i've figured it out

instead of 90k triangles it's now 30k triangles

I don't know if that's good or not

[wind stratus]

nightmare fuel

[cunning charm]

horizontally spinning hiyori

[soft basin]

also, in the black version, textures did not seem to embed in to fbx

[cunning charm]

Fixed versions with lower poly count and black version actually has textures

[soft basin]

also your origin point is somewhere in a weird place, but i think alex can fix that in Unity so it's ok

[cunning charm]

so many problems

[soft basin]

it's mostly to avoid problems on importing, nothing really serious

[cunning charm]

wait why are the eyes white

[soft basin]

it's just the lighting setting, it does not enable textures automatically 👍

[cunning charm]

ah ok

i was scared for a second

[snow tendon]

https://clips.twitch.tv/InspiringAliveSlothM4xHeh-Pl4UWBkdTZkqmiwc

[cunning charm]

These should have fixed origins

Wait no forgot to package textures

ok these are correct

Wait no theres a weird problem

I have no idea what's happening

[soft basin]

that is because you override normals in material with single vector

[cunning charm]

I am clueless, how do i fix

[soft basin]

i think it should be fine with different materials in unity

[cunning charm]

So do I have to export the materials or something?

[soft basin]

just leave it as is, should be fine

[cunning charm]

ok, you're a lot more knowledgable on this than me so I'll trust you

Oh yeah, should I also make icons and cooked/cured versions?

[bitter viper]

Can you export models separately please?

[cunning charm]

for some reason the black and white hiyori materials don't automatically get made, but that is the only problem I think

I am currently trimming down the polycount

i hope

[cunning charm]

@soft basin can you send the cooked and cured textures?

[soft basin]

uuh idk if it will work for you

[cunning charm]

wdym?

[soft basin]

i have multiple textures for different elements

and if you want to use them, alex can do that in unity i think

[cunning charm]

oh ok

[soft basin]

one thing you can do is to make eyes red if you want

[cunning charm]

The only problem is that when you import the textures in Unity, only materials for the normal textures get made, so you have to make the alternate materials yourself and then add the textures to those materials

[thorn furnace]

@soft basin should i try and rig the anny eel now?

[soft basin]

uuh do you have any concerns?

[thorn furnace]

idk, was mostly wondering if you had any suggestions first

[soft basin]

i don't see any issues 👍 though i think animation is somewhat in question

idk how alex will implement it this time, but you can just make idle loop, swim loop and maybe some kind of simple attack

[thorn furnace]

aight

[undone elm]

Is there a way to make her star Bioluminescent?

[bitter viper]

yes

either bred or i can enable emission

[undone elm]

I think it'd look cute personally

[thorn furnace]

I haven't got a star currently, would that just be this?

[soft basin]

something like this maybe

[thorn furnace]

I'll figure something out

[thorn furnace]

why are eels so annoying to animate

[soft basin]

eels are slippery

[bitter viper]

are you going to use root motion for the eel?

[soft basin]

woah you even use a reference

[thorn furnace]

i have no clue what root motion is

i'm not planning on moving the centre

[bitter viper]

okay dont use it then cuz i dont think it's compatible with how subnautica handles it

[thorn furnace]

the first time it looked really bad

[bitter viper]

root motion is left, no motion is right

https://www.blendernation.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/blender-nation-thumbnail-gif.gif

[thorn furnace]

ah yeah

[bitter viper]

changes that are made to the root point are propagated into unity as object movement (but there's a bit more setup involved)

[thorn furnace]

will try and keep it like the right one

[soft basin]

alex, will you update shark if i add animations?

[bitter viper]

Yes

[soft basin]

pogs

[thorn furnace]

ok this looks wrong

oh oops i used the reference at 2x the framerate

still feels silly

maybe i should scale the snake up a bit and try and copy the motion a bit less finely

[soft basin]

what kind of motion are you trying to achieve? it looks like it is struggling and trying to escape from being cooked

[thorn furnace]

just swimming

using this as reference

[bitter viper]

I see

A small difference

Between the two

[thorn furnace]

the end of the tail moves nicely

[soft basin]

where is his input on the mod 😭

[snow tendon]

HEY

[waxen orchid]

@snow tendon Maybe calm down a bit and reevaluate the things you write before sending them

[soft basin]

i think you can make a simple animation on the second after the head bone, and jsut copy it to the others with half cycle offset

for basic wave-like motion

[thorn furnace]

i somehow managed to mess up the eel really badly

[trail sleet]

huh it appears glitchy is gone

[thorn furnace]

just no roles and joined today I think?

[latent cedar]

he left and rejoin the server, still in here

[frigid kettle]

rip the dream

[frigid kettle]

aha! emission... that's all there is to it? nice

i thought it would end up having to be some specific component

i may work on a starfish creature, i would be using the most subtle anny sound pack for it... just hics, grrs, srceams and death sounds, no words spoken

if i get there we'll have to coordinate which clips to use between the two creatures

[thorn furnace]

i am going insane

[frigid kettle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr2PP23p384 if you need more references lol

[thorn furnace]

thing is i understand how they move, it just doesn't want to work when i actually try

im gonna try a different technique and see if it helps

[frigid kettle]

yep we take movements like this for granted

[thorn furnace]

who needs more bones when you can only use one

[soft basin]

you can copy that cycle and just ctrl v it on to the next bones, then just move keys by half quarter the full cycle

[thorn furnace]

who needs offsets

[bitter viper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aXjzxI6kXY&t=55s

maybe this helps idk

im not a modeler

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6nvWVkZNvL0

[thorn furnace]

oh thats actually smart in the second one

[bitter viper]

the second one linked the first one in the comments

[thorn furnace]

my current attempt looks like one of the pendulum animations

[thorn furnace]

this is, better?

[soft basin]

a bit clunky but seems alright 👍

[thorn furnace]

idk some of the keyframes feel jumpy

i wonder if i can smooth those

[soft basin]

i have no idea

[thorn furnace]

oh god

i forgot about quaternions

[bitter viper]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-shock-gif-6475834490877121384

[soft basin]

[thorn furnace]

ok imma go sleep again

if you have any luck gettings this working feel free to run with it

god i hate quaternions

i might have to do it with parts of the quaternion locked idk

[soft basin]

if you are willing to redo it, you can chhnge the type of the rotation

[thorn furnace]

at some point tomorrow I might

[soft basin]

or i think you can duplicate the rotation in xyz and then delete the data for quaternions

but that seems tedious

[thorn furnace]

(I am just guessing this is a quaternion issue btw)

maybe looking at the motion paths would help

[soft basin]

yeah and quaternions are not good for loops, if you will try to just copy the first frame

it will "unwind" it back instead of closest interpolation

well technically it will be closest interpolation, just in 4 dimentions

[thorn furnace]

winding back here makes sense though?

[soft basin]

uuh it will take shortest path in 4 dimentions which is not nececerily closest and smoothest in 3 dimentions

like if you rotate bone 359 degrees from your original location, and in the next frame you want it to snap back, it will rotate it back instead of rotating it 1 degree forward

[bitter viper]

im glad to know that im not the only one bothered by quaternions

[thorn furnace]

it should just be swaying back and forth so no jumps are meant to be (much) bigger than like 90 degrees

[soft basin]

maybe you made some extra keyframes somewhere?

oh i can jsut take a look

it looks like the resolution of the curve is too small

[thorn furnace]

which curve

[soft basin]

rather the other way around

the one you used to animate?

[thorn furnace]

I eyeballed the eel to follow the curve

like every 10 frames or something I adjusted it to be on the curve

[thorn furnace]

eel feels less dumb now

[bitter viper]

It looks better

Should the head remain static though?

[thorn furnace]

idk i can animate that seperately

[lofty tree]

im pretty sure the head is the culprit

[thorn furnace]

some of the motion paths are still a bit off

[lofty tree]

it might follow the curve too

[thorn furnace]

good shout

i might try that

[latent cedar]

i think eel heads move left & right but keep straight

if that makes sense

[thorn furnace]

like a little bit of wobble?

[latent cedar]

ye

[bitter viper]

https://youtube.com/shorts/B02EuXVFR8M?si=tbmp0Cf76s3rqmeA

[thorn furnace]

ye makes sense

[bitter viper]

Yeah the head follows the curve as well, not as much as the body though I think

[lofty tree]

pretty much what i meant

[thorn furnace]

i feel like the spine just by the head moves quite a lot

but eh

there's some scuff in the tail still

[latent cedar]

looks like to really capture the effect of an eel swimming you need a wave running down the length of the body, https://s2.smu.edu/propulsion/Pages/undulatory.htm

this page seems good

the gif of the eel swimming doesn't have an animated head sadly

[thorn furnace]

sorta have that

[latent cedar]

as this example photo doesn't fit the gif in the page

[latent cedar]

this one does look a lot better, maybe increase the freqency of the wave?

[thorn furnace]

i don't have enough bones and it looks scuffed

[latent cedar]

ah fair dos

[thorn furnace]

i experimented with adding keyframes before/after the loop and it works a lot better

here's the blend, imma go do some homework

[lofty tree]

yeah looks better

[bitter viper]

Bred, do you want this eel to be a passive or aggressive mob?

[thorn furnace]

idk

i have no clue about the anny-vedal relationship so i can't really think of any in-jokes

[wind stratus]

maybe make it kinda passive-aggresive?
Attacking only if you get too close or is attacked directly

[trail sleet]

make it so only one is always following vedal

but not too close

[wind stratus]

also is it a normal eel or an electric eel

[cunning charm]

my hiyori model has more tris than link from breath of the wild

where did i go wrong

ok i'm gonna delete so many verts

[thorn furnace]

ctrl x my beloved

[quick sinew]

@thorn furnace
Hey, about the anneel.
Is the flat shading on the textures an artistic choice?
Asking this, because I could provide a bit more detailed textures as well as specular and roughness maps.

[thorn furnace]

its styled after #1141643693858754632 message , so i wasn't really sure how to texture it

its kinda just flat at the moment because it works well and gets the point accross, feel free to have a go at a different style if you want

i fixed the swimming animation so it loops properly

should probably fix the hair eventually

[cunning charm]

Hiyori is now officially not going to brick your pc because of the amount of polygons it has

[rigid stirrup]

[thorn furnace]

i have no clue what to do for idle animations

[latent cedar]

eels don't really idle do they? Like if they do stop they literally stop at their current position to turn fast. Or they are hiding in a hole in ambush mode

maybe a stationary shiver or shiggle, and a head shake like it's trying to wake itself up?

[humble charm]

Eels open and close their mouths while peaking their head out

https://youtu.be/NP_34zx-LHw?si=p_w1-Y0OrJJNwGL7

Some eel reference

Plz ignore the music

I have horrible taste

😂

https://youtube.com/shorts/5_tlDZNTIgU?si=jCi8eh9e2YWa8OW6

[humble charm]

Though it is fictional so it can be pretty much anything as long as it looks good haha

[bitter viper]

Hey bred, can I take a shot at modifying the animation a bit in blender?

[thorn furnace]

I get home in like 20m and can send the latest iteration of the file, but once I've done that feel free to

[thorn furnace]

@bitter viper (sorry for the bunch of pings, idk how much you stalk this channel)

[bitter viper]

Thank you

[thorn furnace]

(also I forgot to mention but that file has a lot of the rig hidden, you can un hide it with alt h)

[soft basin]

instead of hiding, you can move some bones to other layers by pressing M while selecting them

[thorn furnace]

fair enough, hiding works decently for me

[bitter viper]

do you have any other changes you want to make to this or can we add it to the game?

[thorn furnace]

im fine with how it is (assuming you're fine with the current textures)

[bitter viper]

can you export it as an fbx please?

[thorn furnace]

finally works

[bitter viper]

@thorn furnace the export doesnt contain the textures?

[thorn furnace]

wh

[thorn furnace]

this work?

[bitter viper]

no :(

NEVERMIND

it works

[bitter viper]

MISINPUT

[thorn furnace]

all the bones look weird lol

[bitter viper]

is the swim animation called Swim.001 or Armature|Swim?

[thorn furnace]

i want to say its this one

[bitter viper]

lmao

[thorn furnace]

yeah some of them are a bit broken

whichever one looks like swimming

[soft basin]

i will do shark when i figure this out

[bitter viper]

both of these look like swimming

[thorn furnace]

i literally don't know where its getting any other animations from

[soft basin]

it's based on this by paccha

[thorn furnace]

one of those should work though

anyways, they should just be the same so either probably works

[soft basin]

also, the tri count on fbx is ~15k, while it's around 10k on blend with 1 subdiv on every mesh

[quick sinew]

You could try this

specular, set smoothenss alpha specular

[bitter viper]

@thorn furnace @snow tendon @vale jasper and anyone else who can
Do you think you might be able to help me with the following things for the anneel:
- Databank text
- Databank art
- Transparent png of the model which will be used in the popup for scanning the creature
- Sounds

[vale jasper]

Those are wholesome

[bitter viper]

🥬 message updated

[thorn furnace]

i can do some pngs of the eel

[vale jasper]

Databank art is the same style as before right?

[bitter viper]

yes

[vale jasper]

Good. I need pngs + wireframe

[thorn furnace]

what resolution / aspect do you want

[vale jasper]

Here are the previous entries for context

[thorn furnace]

ill fix the lighting but something like this?

or a bit more of a long lens?

[quick sinew]

pls use a HDRI https://polyhaven.com/hdris

[thorn furnace]

oh yeah good point forgot that would be useful

[vale jasper]

Should be fine

[thorn furnace]

where is my transparency blender

[thorn furnace]

it had that i think i forgot to save the image with it lol

[bitter viper]

@thorn furnace do you want the anneel to be a passive or aggressive creature?

[thorn furnace]

i have no clue, probably passive?

[bitter viper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REb7QGqjgNc

if only there was someone bored enough who could do me a real favor by cuting out individual soundbites from this 9 minute compilation, then cleaning the audio so it doesn't have background music, then sending me the audio files

[trail sleet]

i wonder who

[thorn furnace]

🤨

it is not doing well jesus

[thorn furnace]

@vale jasper these any good?

also holy denoiser

[vale jasper]

I'll look into this and the sounds after the stream

[wind stratus]

that looks smooth

amazing

[cunning charm]

Should I also do pictures like this for Hiyori Fish?

[vale jasper]

If needed. Alex?

[bitter viper]

yes please

[vale jasper]

Alright

[vale jasper]

Waiting for Hiyori Fish assets

[vale jasper]

[cunning charm]

I'll get them done tomorrow

[vale jasper]

Man, her hics are so adorable

[fading anvil]

can you give us the total number of hics when you finish ?

[vale jasper]

I am terrified, actually

Holy shit, my Audition is not happy

@bitter viper realistically, how much sounds do you need?

[bitter viper]

not that many

i mean ermshark has like 10

[vale jasper]

15 files

If you can drown them in reverb, they will sound splendid

[thorn furnace]

this is really nice <3

[undone elm]

so I get like, 5% credit for Anneel right?

[cunning charm]

Maybe I should make the eyes more glossy

[vale jasper]

Is she hostile?

[cunning charm]

I think it's currently just a very rare ermfish version

[vale jasper]

I have a very stupid idea

[cunning charm]

[vale jasper]

4th wall breakage

Alex, watcha think?

[cunning charm]

I'm thinking that maybe the scan screen for black and white hiyori fish could just be static or something, would be fun and kinda creepy maybe

[vale jasper]

oi

[bitter viper]

sure

[vale jasper]

Can you make her looking straight into the camera?

[cunning charm]

ok, hold on a sec

Something weird is happening

the camera and the render are different?

[vale jasper]

Truly meta lol

[cunning charm]

she's invading my pc

[vale jasper]

[cunning charm]

it's been a good run boys

Here we go

I had to rotate the camera so that the render wasn't offcenter

BTW hiyori fish is actually 2 different fish, the normal hiyori fish, and the BW hiyori fish, which has the black bar

I was reffering to the 2nd hiyori fish with the static and stuff

hold up i'll make a render

[vale jasper]

Ah

okay, it is doable

[cunning charm]

is this better?

[vale jasper]

Yeah

[cunning charm]

[stark cradle]

New creature Hiyorifish

[cunning charm]

I'm just gonna send this here again so that you don't have to scroll up for 50 million minutes to find it

also for some reason it's broken if you open it in blender but it seems fine in unity so uh

[cunning charm]

What kind of creature sounds should hiyori fish have?

[jolly stratus]

Sou desu ne

I wish we knew what voice engine hiyori uses, would be easy to recreate her lines then, assuming it's available

[bitter viper]

looks like its good

[trail sleet]

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/vtuber-neuro-sama-34d1940b2bc44898b938448305765b61
substitute the mobile vehicle bay crafting drones with this

[cunning charm]

that neuro model looks so good

[vale jasper]

How ironic

[cunning charm]

[vale jasper]

oi do u ave any gaims on er phone m8?

[soft basin]

wot gaims

[thorn furnace]

jesus

[cunning charm]

biblically accurate neuro

[vale jasper]

[wind stratus]

She ate too much uranium

[thorn furnace]

ill throw the blend for the eel in here if anyone wants it, this is currently setup for the wireframe renders but you can take it back to normal if you turn off some modifiers and change the materials back to the ones with textures

[foggy niche]

That is disturbing lmao

looks like it came from The Forest

[lofty tree]

its terrifying

[lofty tree]

that idea mustve leaked from my mind once

[foggy niche]

I might actually be terrified if I see that chasing me in game

[lofty tree]

[frigid kettle]

anny is the gift that keeps on giving... this is a folder with one gazillion anny hic clips... and the person who made it has TWO https://mega.nz/folder/PFdBHbCS#GxtZuVNDihtPv_lghecERA/folder/mR9S0ZJQ

second library https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Xygx6Uvq5DRCLIKJyfP-sBKLreM7Xi3c

[sly coyote]

https://clips.twitch.tv/TriumphantCalmPeppermintDuDudu-LlQr7azAptF6-EWB catching what i missed with bella the other day and the middle nomnom reading seems maybe useful

i don't keep up here enough to know what's needed exactly

[vale jasper]

holy mother of gods

[frigid kettle]

why is she the way she is

[frigid kettle]

@bitter viper some more wholesome christian hurt sounds (might give these a second pass, this one is a nightmare to clean up, i also have another handful of uncleaned audio)

sourced from this video, for which separation needs all the help it can get https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJROPs724SU

[cunning charm]

Camila jellyfish

Camellyfish

[frigid kettle]

Camifish

Crabmila

[latent cedar]

already done aneel, but Cameela would have also been a good pun

or crabbage as an aside pun lol

[vale jasper]

Cramimi makes sense

[fading anvil]

Happie noises

[latent cedar]

Clamimi :O

[fading anvil]

Can we add custom achievements ?

[vale jasper]

I don't think so

We can simulate them though, probably

[fading anvil]

But will Vedal look at them ?

[vale jasper]

Definitely not

[bitter viper]

no

[sly coyote]

this is the 100k bits donation sound and maru mentioned to not use it (not that I think you were going to but fyi)

[balmy fossil]

Small clarification, im not saying you absolutely cant use it but it would be nice if it stayed something special u know?

[bitter viper]

i am not using that sound lmao

[balmy fossil]

perfect

[frigid kettle]

there was no intent on using it i just wanted to point it out while we're sifting through anny "gifts"

we'd have to make a little pig with anny's star on it, no chance

anyway it has already been gloriously featured in minecraft

[deep elm]

I honestly dont know what I expected when I pressed play

[rigid stirrup]

add annys "hic"

[deep elm]

yeah but like which ones, like three or four of them have been added

[frigid kettle]

there are already like six or seven i think

[rigid stirrup]

oh

[frigid kettle]

yeah cant have anny without the hics, if you scroll up theres a library someone made with 100s of hic clips

like an oil well but its all hics

[sly coyote]

surprised no one has made a comp <---- message i typed that made me remember someone, in fact, had

[rigid stirrup]

anny has perfect noises for annyeel

[deep elm]

oh wait this is pretty useful

[deep elm]

Alternate megalink
https://mega.nz/folder/OEMwxBiY#xC3MqPwE8vr084lyecpbRw

[deep elm]

i dont know why i did that he probably wont add any more sounds

[sly coyote]

there are 1000's more wrrrs but i'm not aware of any more pre cut

[soft basin]

tried animating eel, but i had to make a new armature for it and change some things here and there

[cunning charm]

smooth

[bitter viper]

Should the tail movements be so large in comparison to the head movements?

[soft basin]

i think it's ok for fast movement, but i can make it less

[thorn furnace]

neat, i have no clue how more complex armatures work

[bitter viper]

I need to look into how the crabsnake works

[deep elm]

woah that looks so good!

[soft basin]

i mean look at this guy https://youtu.be/xM1Gh99VOx8?t=313

[frigid kettle]

it's perfect as long as you can remove the behavior where it dives into a shroom and of course the instant aggro

watched a few videos, damn that thing is so aggressive

[frigid kettle]

i've seen dozens of these during my dives... but i never saw one swim, they're always sticking their head out of something (also big teeth + no brain = don't even think of getting near it lol)

[snow tendon]

Whats a fkin crabsnake?

[wind stratus]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Crabsnake

[snow tendon]

uh

o_0

[wind stratus]

My brother in christ have you even played the game

[trail sleet]

theres like animals n stuff

really cool game

[snow tendon]

I did like 2 hours of gameplay then I died and realised I forgor to save then I raged and uninstalled it.

[frigid kettle]

if animations are too difficult, we could just make them do what most morays do which is to sit there and make a dumb face (this was like my second post-certification dive, i almost bumped into one of these weirdos)

and btw that latest animation looks great

[soft basin]

we need to see how it will be in game, since subnautica is using blending system for different turn angles, i managed to implement it, but still yet to see it in action

[cunning charm]

looks good in my opinion

👍

[cunning charm]

I had an idea, what if Ermfish and thus also Hiyorifish had different expressions? Like them closing their eyes when attacked and doing a little >.< face, or just randomly opening their mouth like ^o^

Don't know how feasible this is but it would make them seem more like actual creatures

[frigid kettle]

@bitter viper @true lintel lmk if this is a crime against humanity or not... i dont even plan on using that select case, but i THINK it would be the right way of having just one callback for all 4 events

im just messing around for now, but rainy weekend in view, gonna finally give this mod some love

[bitter viper]

You can switch on subData directly

And have the cases be "case OnNewSubscriberArgs newSubArgs:"

Also two things

1. You are not on the latest version of the repo (you should update your fork from upstream and pull the latest changes)

2. I don't think we want to add thanking subs as an actual tutel feature

[frigid kettle]

aight fair, and yeah ik i havent updated my repo, like i said just messing around for now

[snow tendon]

o_0 Tf is that

Oh yeah @bitter viper are we gonna set up sub point redeems for mob spawning?

Oh shit its 10am for you

Sorry go back to sleepy

[bitter viper]

No

[snow tendon]

Can someone hack my file to have like infinate health and like ovp mats and shit

[trail sleet]

@snow tendon keep it outside of this chat

its to talk about the mod, not your playthrough

[wind stratus]

MC syndrome

[frigid kettle]

@bitter viper lmk if you need anything over the weekend (sounds, assets, coding etc) cause besides the sub thanks idea i don't have anything lined up

wouldn't mind making myself useful for a bit

[true lintel]

here's the backlog: https://github.com/users/Alexejhero/projects/5/views/1

[rigid stirrup]

idea: use parts of arg songs for hiyori sounds

[snow tendon]

[undone elm]

this feels likea threat

[trail sleet]

that could be an event

neurofumos would spawn at the door of your base and prevent you from exiting

or a giant one covering the door

and it wouldnt leave until you "paid" it

[marsh mesa]

In headpats?

[lone niche]

by saying it back

[brittle silo]

Perhaps a strange question by someone who doesnt entirely understand this stuff, but: Since Neuro is running in Unity, could she potentially interact with these Unity assets in her Vtuber form?
Aka like a pet Ermshark wiggling next to her, or maybe a 3D turtle on her head

[rigid stirrup]

sounds like something hard to do

[brittle silo]

I have zero clue how he makes a Vtuber work in Unity, but from my limited experience with Unity i assumed you could just drag and drop these into the scene with her

[wind stratus]

Its certainly possible, in theory game already can identify entities around the player

But would be hard indeed

As for 3d turtle well...it would look just weird 3d model on a 2d model

[brittle silo]

Oh i was thinking more among the lines of just an asset next to her, rather than making Neuro interact with the game

[wind stratus]

Do you mean like ermsharks swimming around her in the distance, something like that?

[brittle silo]

Like a shark swimming around her or just floating next to her in the "scene" her Vtuber model exists in, kinda like how you drag assets into that scene to make her wear a hat

[wind stratus]

So an ermshark swimming around the camera like a dvd logo? Is that it?

[brittle silo]

Kinda, yeah- Something like that together with the goggles and snorkel could make it a bit more immersive and fun, other Vtubers can't do that- Except maybe 3D ones like Zen and Melody

[wind stratus]

I do kinda dig the idea but no way vedal will implement it

Just by the fact he has to do it from his side

[brittle silo]

True... anything he cant copypaste he doesnt do

[wind stratus]

More like he simply has priorities and a lot of work overall

[bitter viper]

so this is how these creatures work

they have a TrailManager

and their spine is controlled by it

CC: winter, bred

[thorn furnace]

if there's anything that needs changing with the rig I can take a shot when I'm free

[bitter viper]

I have to figure out how to set up this first

[humble charm]

How can I help on the mod btw

Is there like a to-do list somewhere? Or something?

[deep elm]

https://discordapp.com/channels/574720535888396288/1141643693858754632/1160085616474734612

[humble charm]

Awesome 👍

[jolly stratus]

useful?

[bitter viper]

@mystic elk

[mystic elk]

ok I heard u alex, gimme that file and I will make one...maybe it will be kinda useful

[bitter viper]

~~I need some help making an icon for a quantum gymbag item. This will be the equivalent of the Gymbag item in subnautica, but it will be connected to the quantum locker network. I have attached the original icon for the gymbag, the original texture, and the modified texture.

TL;DR i need a green version of this icon~~

I did it myself

I also need a tooltip for it

Now that it's connected to the quantum lockers we need new lore for it

[mystic elk]

btw @bitter viper the gymbag with your method does not apply to the colors u really wanted it to contain, is that important? https://imgur.com/a/OGJi3Zh

kinda looks shit with the exact colors applied... https://imgur.com/a/3KWkcrh

[bitter viper]

I NEED QUANTUM GYMBAG LORE

[trail sleet]

"Storage solution which shares content with all other quantum gymbags."

[bitter viper]

That's a description that's not a lore

[trail sleet]

"gymbag but better"

[marsh mesa]

"fashionable pocket dimension"

[mystic elk]

Nah he needs a story about the background of that object

[deep elm]

did we ever get the gymbag lore?

[snow tendon]

Gymbag...lore?

[brittle silo]

The gymbag lore is that Neuro is stinky, like a gymbag full of used gym clothes
Thats about it

[mystic elk]

QUANTUM GYMBAG LORE

@bitter viper is the lore of the normal gymbag available too look up? I guess the quantum one could be an adaptation of the normal one

[dim gorge]

so this is what happened when neuro mix an ion cube inside the normal gymbag PPAP style, btw she may got this after destroying an architect database from the original subnautica, so in the end it is the same smell as the original gymbag but more powerfull

[trail sleet]

thats amazing

[bitter viper]

is the center of rotation still not the head?

[bitter viper]

it spins around so fast sometimes lmao

looks good though 👍

[soft basin]

it's mostly behavior settings, still have to figure that out

[undone elm]

Their movement feels so natural

[lofty tree]

its magnificent

[brittle silo]

A creature worthy of an Attenborough documentary indeed

[frigid kettle]

she's a trumpet fish not an eel

trumpet fish move exactly like those, but slower

even the weird rotations

in addition to this they sometimes swim backwards (they want you to think the tail is the head)

[waxen orchid]

Art for positive vibes

[waxen orchid]

Ermcon signs like these (from my older art) would be fun to have in areas where alot of ermfish spawn. Just an idea

[brittle silo]

A warning to Vedal to stay away from those areas as they will kill his CPU

[abstract dew]

I got screwed by the 2fa for not saving my backups so I guess I'm gonna chat using this acc now

Whats happend with the mod for the past 36 hours?

[abstract dew]

Is the Mod dead now?

[soft basin]

yep just like among us mod, it's a tradition here

[cunning charm]

I haven't checked the mod in a hot minute, anything happen with hiyori fish?

[soft basin]

Alex went on a bit of a tangent, so it is not added yet

[cunning charm]

I was thinking of improving the hiyorifish model

[soft basin]

you are free to do it if you want

[cunning charm]

And making it not have inexistent topology

[abstract dew]

Inexistent Topology

[undone elm]

....

.....

melbafish....

[deep elm]

Great idea, everyone switch focus

[regal geode]

I haven't looked in here for a while. without spoiling much, can I get a teaser for what ya'll been cooking

[bitter viper]

basically a nothingburger

[regal geode]

[bitter viper]

[deep elm]

Jukebox_

[cunning charm]

How about making HiyoriFish be like normal fish unless you or something else harms an Ermfish or Ermshark in the vicinity. And then it becomes hostile to the thing that hurt them?

[bitter viper]

Like an iron golem?

[wind stratus]

I also haven't checked in here for a while, was the arg variation of hiyorifish also added?

[cunning charm]

Basically

[cunning charm]

I made the models and sent them here but I am planning on improving them greatly, although not right now because I'm on vacation until next monday

[wind stratus]

I was just asking cuz I had a "creative" idea how to utilise arg hiyorifish

[cunning charm]

do tell

[wind stratus]

"I think i saw a ghost".
Make a very low chance event where the ARG hiyori fish spawns away from the player and slowly moves towards possibly with our beloved "numbers" playing, disappearing the moment it is noticed by the player followed by "I think I saw a ghost" message

[cunning charm]

Ooh

Very creepy

[wind stratus]

Definitely would be a fun little goof to spook the tutel a little

And I think it wouldn't be that hard to implement except the "dissapears when noticed" part

[cunning charm]

Maybe it could instead turn into a normal hiyori fish and act like nothing happened after noticing

[wind stratus]

Great idea too, either is good really

[cunning charm]

So currently HiyoriFish behavior:

• Swim around like a normal fish
  Until:

1. Ermfish in a set radius gets attacked or picked up by a creature or the player
2. Ermshark in a set radius gets attacked by a creature or the player

Once this happens
Hiyori fish goes angry mode and attacks the creature/player that triggered it.
The Hiyori fish isn't very strong and can just be picked up when attacking the player. But is ruthless to other creatures.

• On rare occasions spawns as ARGfish

When spawning as an ARGfish:

1. Locks on to players location.
   moves toward player slowly while saying random numbers and words that have to do with the ARG.
2. Ignores all other fish and all other fish ignore it.
3. When looked at for too long turns into a normal hiyorifish
4. When touching the player without the player turning it into a normal Hiyorifish, it adds itself to the players inventory as an ARGfish, not a Hiyorifish. This is the only way to get an ARGfish.

[wind stratus]

It's an amazing idea that is sure to disturb

The thoughts of "what if its right behind me" or "what if it gets too close"

[cunning charm]

Ooh yeah what if it catches you

Wait i have an idea

The only way to collect ARGfish is to let it catch you

It adds itself to your inventory

Idk what happens then

Thats for the lore people to figure out

[wind stratus]

I thought of making it 1 Hp damage and then dissapear for a spooky effect but that works too definitely

A solid concept that is

Now if Alex will be up for it

[cunning charm]

Can't be that hard surely

[wind stratus]

Well making entity move towards the player is ctrl+C from ermcon as for the rest...yeah

[cunning charm]

I cant wait what the lore peeps can cook up for this one

[bitter viper]

we need a new lore person

[cunning charm]

Tbh i think Anneel should do the iron golem thingy

Would make more sense with the lore

[bitter viper]

anneel is a passive creature

[cunning charm]

Ah ok nvm then

[cunning charm]

Alex do you think that this will work?

[bitter viper]

can you remind me to reply later

thank you xD

[cunning charm]

Alr

[cunning charm]

@bitter viper is this later enough?

[cunning charm]

@bitter viper

[bitter viper]

thanks for reminding me i will read through it now

[cunning charm]

any changes that need to be made?

[cunning charm]

ghosted...

[deep elm]

he still didnt respond? wow smh

[fading anvil]

Alex

[bitter viper]

When I start adding the hiyori fish I will think about this

[undone elm]

once vedal comes back, the melbafolks will migrate back here, to their natural habitat

[lone niche]

Nope. We were talking about making a smol bean vtuber

[frigid kettle]

i may not have the time i had a couple of months ago, but when i spot gold, i do collect it

some fucker in chat writes subtitles of what she says, so she was trying to throw them off

[cunning charm]

ErmFish saying cold fish when a Tutel is nearby would be funny

(context in current dev stream)

[waxen orchid]

This could be a entity in Below Zero if anyone wants to model it

[soft basin]

this also exists, a bit different, but at current rate of things doubt that any of them will get added

[bitter viper]

THEY WILL BE ADDED

[undone elm]

it will be called coldfish987

[bitter viper]

@frigid kettle did you make the pda databank entry image for the tutel?

[frigid kettle]

ye

[bitter viper]

do you still have the psd

[frigid kettle]

layered png

[vale jasper]

layered png

[frigid kettle]

ye most of the time i use Fireworks instead of PS... i like me vectors

plus as a non designer i learned how to pull off a few things in the old Macromedia Fireworks

[cunning charm]

What is the upper limit for the new HiyoriFish model?

[bitter viper]

Of Tris?

[cunning charm]

yes

i want to make sure the better version also doesn't have to be absolutely decimated until its good

[bitter viper]

Uhh I'm not entirely aure

[bitter viper]

Time to

[cunning charm]

time to that my hair modeling technique doesn't send the tri count into the stratosphere

[bitter viper]

I don't really like this gimmick

I have another idea

[cunning charm]

tbf I've never played any subnautica game so my idea was just something i came up with on the spot

[bitter viper]

The fish itself is not pickupable - it either spawns naturally with ermfish schools and also spawns behind the player if too many ermfish are picked up or if an ermshark is attack too many times

If the player looks at it for too long it teleports away
If too many modded creatures are picked up / attacked it turns into an arg fish and starts chasing the player at very high speeds until it successfully attacks the player, after which it turns back into a hiyori fish

Or something idk

[bitter viper]

Same

I don't want to have another pickupable fish

[cunning charm]

Seems good too me, has potential to scare

[cunning charm]

New updated model

the hair is currently at a much higher resolution but its easily changeable because they use curves

also that weird face stuff is just gif weirdness

Just waiting on how detailed the hair can be until i upload a file

[deep elm]

woah! that looks amazing!

[cunning charm]

At this high resolution the model is 98k tris

[jolly stratus]

She kinda reminds me of something

https://tenor.com/view/fullmetal-alchemist-sad-ed-ward-gif-19017777

[cunning charm]

[cunning charm]

surely pc can handle it, he has a 4090

[soft basin]

melbafish concept (pardon my rough sketch)

any melba frogs here

[cunning charm]

melb

i could try my hand at making this but i don't know if it would look good

[soft basin]

I inda started already, just wanted some suggestions and opinions

[cunning charm]

I think its good

Your model will probably be better than mine anyway

[soft basin]

why do you say that

[ember flume]

:O

[bitter viper]

don't make another fish please

[soft basin]

you said you will add anything

[bitter viper]

the mod is suprasaturated with creatures

[soft basin]

what to do then

[winged briar]

a melba mecha

[cunning charm]

can textures be animated? if so what about a laptop buidable with a (very fast and short) melba stream on it

maybe it switches between neuro, evil, vedal (dev stream), and melba if you interact with it?

also Alex is there a known poly count I should aim for with hiyori fish?

[soft basin]

should be doable, but up to Alex if he wants to

[cunning charm]

Does anyone know what an acceptable amount would be for poly count?

[bitter viper]

idk toast i am sorry for not replying already

i just dont know the answer

[cunning charm]

Its alr I can wait

[soft basin]

in-game fish are 1-3k, sea dragon is 33k triangles

i'd recommend around 20k tris for upper limit

[cunning charm]

Thanks! I'm not home for a couple days but I'll get on it when I get home!

[cunning charm]

If the ARG hiyori effect in front of the eyes can be achieved with particles then this is the model done! If not then I can just add the bar back really quickly

[bitter viper]

#livestream-chat message

[cunning charm]

Neuro integration

It would be awesome if neuro just goes while ARG fish is around don't give tutel anyone or anything to lean on

[bitter viper]

i want to do that for the ||lily paddler||

[bitter viper]

#livestream-chat message

#livestream-chat message

#livestream-chat message

#livestream-chat message

#livestream-chat message

[cunning charm]

These evil streams are so good for voice lines

[flint ibex]

i have intentionally not been opening this thread to wait for the below streams but the urge to spoil myself is getting stronger

[soft basin]

well, you will probably forget spoilers before the stream anyway

[flint ibex]

[near kelp]

And also vedal's reaction is what matters for me, not the spoilers

[vale jasper]

One can argue that it might have a greater effect on you when you know exactly what happens.

[cunning charm]

New evil sound

[undone elm]

Boki fish

[bitter viper]

@cunning charm which one is the most recent hiyori fish model?

[bitter viper]

[cunning charm]

This one

It doesn't have the bar (I thought maybe the bar could be handled with particles, would look better than just a box) but if you want i can add it back

[soft basin]

here is my attempt so far

[bitter viper]

Holy that looks so good

[soft basin]

you can't really see the fish though, and if it is smaller, the eyes become visible at certain angles

[fading anvil]

maybe give them digital corruption effect ?

[soft basin]

i need to look into optimizing it first, but i will see what can be done

[fading anvil]

meanwhile I'm trying to design a 3d nesus

(it's a modified rubber duck)

[wind stratus]

Holy hell

[cunning charm]

I made the eyes a seperate object (If I did it correctly) from the head so maybe you can hide the eyes in that state?

Also holy heck that looks amazing

[soft basin]

also it is not visible through transparent surfaces like glass etc.

and i have no idea how to get around it

[brittle silo]

Isnt that a good thing for a ghost fish?
Added spooky factor like a vampire

You think its just an ermfish until you turn around and HO FUCK ITS HIYORI RUN

[soft basin]

nvm it was just my skill issue 👍

[cunning charm]

I cant believe my silly little idea for hiyori fish is becoming real, I love this community

[waxen orchid]

[cunning charm]

[waxen orchid]

New fish just dropped

[cunning charm]

Any news on the progress of the mod?

[bitter viper]

I'm working on two other projects ATM that I have to finish before the subathon starts so ive been busy

There are other people still working on the mod however

[cunning charm]

Alr, thanks!

[true lintel]

hello discord please keep this thread in my channel list thanks

[near kelp]

I'll help a bit I guess..?

[cunning charm]

[cunning charm]

Hiyori...

[true lintel]

i'll finish it if alex doesn't dw

[ember flume]

oh boy i gues i gotta work on this one again

[true lintel]

hello discord i'm one of the other people working on the mod while alex is doing other stuff atm
we're planning to have the mod feature some of Neuro's song covers in the in-game jukebox, but unfortunately we can't put all 2GB in there we'll include maybe 5-10 songs (we might be able to fit more, we'll see) so please suggest your favourite(s) here (or if there's a place where people already ranked their favourites please direct me there)
if you've played Below Zero before and have a suggestion for where to place the disks that unlock the tracks, it would save us a bit of time too
thank you

[thin tusk]

Evil Utsu p cover would be cool

[cunning charm]

Evil singing creep

[lofty tree]

francium

[ember flume]

Y E SSS

[ember flume]

ILY

[cunning charm]

#livestream-chat message

[true lintel]

just a note to add these in later

[fading anvil]

i still want to create the nesus model

[soft basin]

[primal flax]

We should add trinkets on a shelf

Like some well known users, characters and colab partners

[cunning charm]

[ember flume]

most Normal Neuro

UwU~

[fading anvil]

erm I found this

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1199231755828330556

[cunning charm]

Respectfully, that is fucking terrifying

good job! 👍

[cunning charm]

at this rate I'm gonna learn how to mod the game myself

[jaunty gyro]

dont you think it would be more responsible to make a discord server for the mod that way vedal cant peek, because you can ban him

[fading anvil]

The project is open source + Alex streams the development + Vedal doesn't care that much :/

[ember flume]

Yeah.

Also im at my dc server limit TwT i'd have to leave a server for that

[ember flume]

Ermfish with hat

[bitter viper]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-infinity-war-im-sorry-little-one-gif-12454554

@cunning charm

[cunning charm]

[bitter viper]

https://tenor.com/view/im-only-human-after-all-gif-27711987

[cunning charm]

That's fair making a mod unpaid for days on end would be very tiring I imagine

[regal geode]

[cunning charm]

[lofty tree]

[waxen orchid]

[primal coral]

[vale jasper]

[ember flume]

[soft basin]

[bitter viper]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-well-actually-as-a-matter-of-fact-gif-27665011

https://tenor.com/view/ball-saved-florian-muller-germany-soccer-team-nbc-sports-ball-blocked-gif-22892150

@cunning charm

[cunning charm]

?

mhm

[bitter viper]

https://tenor.com/view/josémourinho-big-trouble-if-i-speak-prefer-not-to-speak-interview-gif-16725048

[cunning charm]

[ember flume]

Im sorry to break the fun here bit is there even a plan vor ved to play below zero at some point?

[bitter viper]

next week probably

he talked about it last dev stream

[ember flume]

Damn i skipped some of it aaa

Idk if im gonna be able to make ermleviathan until then.... Aaaaa

Imma rush

[fading anvil]

It's fine
It's not like he will finish the game in one stream

[ember flume]

very true

[bitter viper]

Not sure if we'll be able to add the erm leviathan or not

As in, I definitely won't have the time to do it unfortunately

But I'm not sure about the other mod contributors

[ember flume]

as in - for the first stream or like - forever?

[bitter viper]

Not sure entirely

As a matter of fact even the hiyori fish was about to be scrapped

[ember flume]

wait what

[bitter viper]

Yeah I literally just don't have enough time to work on it