#2024-game-jam
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updated the game with QOL features (but video playing is broken on WebGL ๐ญ )

wait you wanna see it?
Basically you fail to rescue a single hero in the flashbacks missions, so all your friends are dead
There's another ending where some of your friends survive, but not all
And my personal favorite, everybody lives
oh boy, +1 ending to the 6 im preping
mfw i cant beat the score from a friend in my own game
Every dev needs a friend who's a goated playtester and a god gamer
And also a friend who's a potato gamer
Btw have u seen my new atk record in Sea of Memories?
Yeah!!! It's crazy
very well done
where?
#2024-game-jam message This one
OH SHIT
Kinda ridiculous ngl 
no results yet?
Still no game results o:
Joined Alex's stream about Neuro SDK, first thing I hear "it just doesn't work" 
CLASSIC
I'm wondering, why?
DESERVED 
Thanks! 
idk, I can't exactly judge the quality of my game objectively, but why today?
Next goal, each member has more damage than the time god's hp 
btw this way fails because u need to have 2 camilas and frozen tutel at same time 
there is an event that delays fog by 2 turns iirc, right?
Yeah!
I wonder which is more efficient then, 2 cumilq and delaying with events, or 1 cumilq and delaying with frozen tutels
This phrase out of context is insane ๐
i think this is more insane out of context
Vedal is going to play the game jam games on stream
I think its only fair to wave the karma thing for not voting... right?
Is cumilq strong? Arent 2 cerbers better?
Karma is mostly useless, nobody should care about ir
It only boosts your place in most karma category
Which nobody uses
i mean popular also seems extremely skewed, right before jam ended a lot of games surfaced which noone really paid attention to before
this way gives you 1236 ATK. all shades of red are Imp events, magenta are cumilq, shades of blue are frozen tutels
they're close but cumilq is better
Is it always the same?
I mean if u swap both cumilq to server in this route, u still get 1222 which is just 14 atk less
wdym?
The map I mean it's random or always the same?
What events on what spaces
It's always random, this is just the way you theoretically can get max possible atk
there are other ways (like u could place these tiles differently) but the order should be the same
Probably it rewards recent enagement way more
So games that started getting popularity near the end got boosted
idk how it works. maybe games that are to be downloaded have different weight as browser played one as browser played on play time can be tracked but downloaded ones not, only the download numbers? so one could just download their own game with a vpn bunch time? idk
I doubt there was any faul play
if u download it with itch io app, it tracks how long u played tho
not saying there is just a theory on how pop gets calcd
For example neuro 64 probably appeared somewhere on itch's page or smth
yea but it would take into account just straight up downloaded games without the app, right?
It was very unpopular at the beginning so big raise in popularity could have boosted it very high
I have no explanation for my game though
i am not talking about a specific game, just in general
You may be right that browser games have better popularity because itch can track every play
While download only ones cant be tracked
I have no idea how it works
dont think they just have better popularity, many download only games are high, i think they just have different ways to metric them
which game does vedal play on VOD rn?
the game from last year?
yea
uhhh i think the top 20 games were pretty consistent in popularity
all throughout voting period (some of the games dropped a little down on that list, but i've pretty much seen all of them here tbf)
Okay, Branching Paths got its first post-jam update too:
- You can now inspect your items by right clicking or long pressing on them
- Improved the visuals of the player and the non-player characters
- Added the missing credits screen
- You can now change the settings during the gameplay too
- Removed the Quit button from the web version
- On mobile you can now see your selected item
- Minor dialog fixes and additions
- Fixed certain timeline bugs in the starting area
- Fixed some music looping issues
oh, and a link: https://shardhash.itch.io/branching-paths
I don't fucking know, itchio popular ranking is just wack
thanks!
np
last phase is actually quite difficult

if I had to guess, a major percentage of the views are coming from this channel and other sources dried up near the end, which is why we have Crazy Robot Body, Branching paths etc now high in popularity
true, but itch had them way lower before
oh wait
I just noticed
7d impressions went down
I think that's part of the popularity algo
it was 20k yesterday
if its a hard reset, small numbers might wobble the whole sorting
today's 8th day, so all impressions from first day are gone
surely my shitass game and neuro 64 are the peak of this jam
to be fair there are many peak of this jam this year
last year must have been way worse
if i got #2 in fun 
vedal's game is the true peak
Naaa last year was good
but this year there are more games? ๐
more than double
Are there people who join the Gamejam who no knowlege of Neuro-sama? They just see a Gamejam on the Itch.io schedule, join, and submit?
there were a few yes
Just fascinated by the idea that someone submits a normal game and everyone else in the ranking is devoted to this random anime girl and they're just confused
good on them
I think the logic there is more: I made a game, might as well submit it to every game jam I can to get some views, what could go wrong am I right
oh yeah could be true
nah there are some games that seem to be made just for this jam but i wouldnt know if they know about neuro or not
including neuro into your game is no prerequisite, everyone just does it
being about neuro is not a requirement
yeah, it makes sense, most neuro fans, making a game for a neuro themed jam, would add neuro to their game
if you just want to make a game, and aren't a big neurosama fan, you'll probably join another jam
there were like two other jams, that had the exact same schedule as neuro-sama jam
yea I just remember Alex disqualifying one game that made an entry for another game jam and decided to submit to ours and another too
such game got not disqualified since it did not break any rule
wait did it not?
if other jams started earlier, then submiting the game also to neuro jam breaks the rules
am I misremembering?
but another game, that submitted to dozent of jams and was clearly made before the jam even started, got disqualified
like 5 games got disqualified
and couple stayed
2 of em being meme uploads
I remember a unity assetflip and some gnome game
the memes were just empty files and abandoned archive
i remember one just being empty files so vedal doesnt get last place 
i remember that one too
it was better than vedal's game, ngl
are there any top games in popularity rn that are made without any neuroverse in it ?
so it would fail at its purpose lol
treasures of the sand look like they don't have anything neuro related at the first glance
Exposition
true
i think its only treasures in the sand
oh yeah that too(didnt see cuz im on 4 tiles rn)
i see... well i'd think i'd prefer having a rule that needs at least somewhat relation to the neuroverse in it, since the gamejam is probably pretty biased towards that making it a little not that fair for unrelated games
although theres no need in that
welp, I tried 
could just be a disclaimer: we welcome non neuro-verse games, but they'll probably do worse due to the nature of the jam so be warned
I think it's fine like it is
Yeah I think it's OK, I think it's fun that random people can join maybe they'll join the community too
Like a local cult that hosts a soup kitchen
Free soup, joining not necessary
but heavily encouraged, have you heard about our lord and saviour Neuro-sama?
yea tbh this is even harder than my 225 atk
My attempt at a glass canon build
Neuro's lost and found kingdom in the VOD on stream 

Wait, @waxen trail is the hit sound the same in the kingdom and sea of memories? 
Who here enjoyed Memory Lanes?
Definitely was a better game that I've worked on for me than last year's Fragment Of An AI
I got a bit confused with it, but the windup-cooldown combat was pretty interesting
Yeah! It was inspired by Medabots and I would absolutely recommend looking into it!
does anyone have any tricks to reduce the volume of the audio on some of the game jam's games other than reducing my browser's volume via volume mixer? some are egregiously loud on my system and don't have a volume slider
i remember Alex reducing the volume of the tab somehow
probably a browser extension for that
https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/volume-master-kontroler-g/jghecgabfgfdldnmbfkhmffcabddioke
this one looks good, I think it's the one that alex used but I'm not sure
that works, thanks!
I'm actually using that one 
You can really tell that people enjoy your game @waxen trail because they're still having fun playing it in various ways and posting their results
just played it and it's really fun
Yes
I love that sound effect (made it myself!) extra crunchy. Surely I'll get a new one next jam 
their game is very replayable
I'm really glad that people liked it this much
I'm really happy with the core gameplay loop too. I kinda wonder if I should upload the new version today or playtest it some more...
It will include a way to win using chat
(Yes it's as ridiculous as it sounds)
that sounds like a challenge to win using chat before update
By the way, what do you think about Cerber and Anny being able to talk to the Anteaters? @native chasm
Is it going to be feature of the game?
Just bonus stats they can ask the Anteaters for instead of a full heal
It's down for me too
lmao
Guess he'll have to play Henry Stickmin today, RIP game jam games
We should make a gamejam bingo too
With "itch goes down" as one of the squares on the board
I feel like that might make Cerber quite OP tho cuz they get a bunch of ATK already
but sounds like nice idea ig
Nice
I'm adding it then
yeah same for me
I'll also nerf them to 0 attack at the start so it'll work out
are there plans to add more crewmembers? 
use it as the free space
Would love that, depends on GrabTheBread the goated artist & composer 
Ooooo, good suggestions! Will let GrabThatBread know
I kind of want to see Bao or Koko personally hehe
tbf there's a lot of choice in the neuro extended universe nowadays x)
itch io couldn't handle alex's game
alex messed up so bad, that when itch stuff wanted to fix it, it took down whole website 
(for legal reasons this is a joke)
"And if we press this one button, everything should be fixed"
- An Itch.io employee's last words

looks awesome
It means a lot of clicking for HP centric builds
you can try to find and destroy all metal pipes, one is hidden in every level except of the boss arena
https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/itch.io.html
its been down for over 7 hours
Itch down? Check whether Itch.io server is down right now or having outage problems for everyone or just for you.
Oh, I guess I had a tab open for more than 7 hours 
Imagine that outage deletes uncalculated ratings in our jam 
Have u considered increasing crew size by 1 so players can get whole family? Vadul, nwero, eliv and ani
Against glass cannons?
Yea that makes sense
Glass cannon still works
Ik
Just needs to be a bit more steep or have a bit more hp
200 dmg will still mog time god lmao
It just makes sense to make buffed mobs with low dmg when glass cannons are a thing
depends on your hp tho
as u can see, 225 atk but only 4 hp
I'd only deal 900 damage in 4 attacks
yea this one would defeat him
200 atk, 8 hp
That one is legendary too lmao
not as good as 3 vedals beating time god imo
Any update on the results situation yet?
I tried and it's actually very hard
well itch.io is still broken
The real game jam result was the friends we made along the way
the real game jam result was the remnants of the past we made along the way
Itchio is but a remnant of the past, an abandoned archive
the real game jam result are the games we made along the way
the real remnant of the past is the gamejam we lost along the way
Not realistic. There's always someone missing
u mean game or streams? either way there were times when it came true (except in game I couldn't get 4th member)
Why did I do this? because I could lmao
Irl
this gave me an idea
what about endless mode, where defeating the time god sends u back to first tile and removes crewmates, but the captain keeps their stats and all mobs are now double HP and ATK
it is rare but possible
That's a really cool idea
idea for a campaign mode
what do u think about adding achievements?
like beating game in lowest possible amount of turns, e.g.
Does it need achievements if it's not a steam game? I feel like only a few players would *care about the achievements
Or really enjoy the achievements
Maybe though
But a turn counter is a great idea
idk, I just feel like it would be a nice addition
Good suggestion either way 
I'm honestly conflicted between time god having 999 hp and 1 dmg or 499hp and 2 dmg
999 looks cooler but beating him takes too many clicks with HP centric builds
i think the more balanced option is better
Which one is that?
I kinda think I'll go for it too maybe...
Though both of these are kinda equally balanced mathematically imo
make it 512 hp cuz it's 1000000000 in binary
That's a neat idea haha
but I think 2 damage is more appropariate for a final boss
what if you put it on steam tho ๐
sans be like
one brain cell

If I make a non Neuro version and put it on Steam it'll have achievements
the weakest enemy 
SANS ANDERTALE IS TIME GOD NEURO SAMA CONFIRMED NESS ??????
why non-neuro 
make the time god have 1 atk 1 hp but when u "kill" it it reverts time and is still alive 
I kinda makes sense why time god deals 1 damage, it's time, It kills slowly, from old age
If it was the Neuro version I'd probably need to ask Vedal for permission, ask the artist to sign a contract that lets me use their art assets and music, and it might have a smaller audience on top of that (only Neuro fans) 
But tbh I'm not super opposed to it either lol
oh yea fair
I think it would be a good game even without neuro theming
im thinking of making a better version of mine featuring cerber and minawan 
it can have some original characters or be just pirate themed
actually old age doesn't kill but rather make you weak and vurnerable, so your body just can't handle even low damage
Let me know if you do, I'd love to try it out 
true
gonna be while cuz going back to work this week
and im not an artist either
your guesses, how long will it last?
24 hours max? but not sure
The subathon is gonna be over before we get to have the gamejam results at this rate 
did Alex crash it to sneak into itch.io servers and change his rates to all 5's and Vedal's Secret to all 1's?
Abandoned archive is going to get released before the gamejam results at this rate 
Nah I don't think it'd be that long lmao

maybe it's that way to teach us something
maybe we shouldn't be consumed by greed wondering who will win
the real winner is the friends we made along the way

and we can all agree that vedal's game was the worst lul
(it wasn't that bad tbh)
why is their name at left of message and not at top 
compact mode discord
im vanilla
Greatest game was definitely the one that forced you to wait for couple of minutes while playing annoying sounds
it was so peak
and you played pacman
im used to irc so even this feels very whitespace-y for me
well thats why its an option
compact mode

itch is up
Oh wait itch works
still no results though

Itch is back
at least I can play sea of memories now
just wait a bit, I'll get there soon
got second chat too late
I need some way to get more hp
Digging deep can help
I hete my life
Why? are you doing okay? 
yea I got +4 captain hp but then died cuz had no enough damage
Hope you can rest soon 
That's nice but stuff like +8hp is where it's really at >:D
Or multiple +4

I guess
damn if I fleed once I'd be able to do it
but I attacked and it got full health
I can't find any Chat now 
but I get a bunch of cumilq
Why I'm suddently getting so many views?
did you update it?
yes, like 10 hours ago
maybe that then, idk if itch pushes them or anything but at least people could be sorting by recently updated or osmething
it suddently is 1# most popular today in this jam
for some reason
I cannot comprehend
itch
this games gives me like 3+ cumilq every game and 1 chat every 3+ games
not 2 chats but it's close ig
noooo not the softlock
well that was quite a challenge
Actual legend
Your game is "Troubleshooting" and is made in Unity, right?
Unity does let you play mp4 videos in WebGL build (In fact my jam game includes one for the intro), it's just done a bit differently than how you'd normally do it.
You have to use the StreamingAssets folder and reference it by URL, instead of assigning the video clip to the Video Player component like normal. (This approach also should work for non-WebGL builds as well)
(This was many hours ago though, so maybe you've already figured this out, sorry for the ping if so)
I already tried that, it works when I run the build locally but not so on itch
Thanks anyways tho
Maybe something with the compression you've selected in the settings? Cause mine plays in the itch embed just fine
Like click on "Human Player" and a video should start up
https://tatoyoda600.itch.io/operation-chicken-nabbing
Tmr, am about to go sleep rn
If you need help with it tomorrow, lemme know, I can send you any settings I might have set ๐
Thank you!
gn!

Can we update our builds? 
yea probably
alex already downloaded everything so i think it's okay now
i think so, but just to be safe dont delete the file on the gamejam
i updated and no one told me I should'nt have
Man my game's downloaded version lacks screen scaling, I hope Vedal won't play the jam version downloaded lmao
do you take feedback btw?
Yes! Give me all the feedback
I found a bugs while playing, the angel's blessing says it give +2 HP but only gives one in my experience
also if you die to the imp event (yeah yeah I know x) ) it says you died to ermshark in the deathscreen
oh btw a few times I had a bug where, upon entering tile with monster it didn't load and that tile was like if fight ended
but there was no fight
I should've been recording
Damn I ain't getting the WR yet
I recorded all my attempts up until now but just realized I didn't record the sound
which game is that
Crazy Robot Body
https://jaceideu.itch.io/crazy-robot-body-blast-from-the-past
It's the new ending screen for the speedrunning mode in the postjam update
ohhh
what time are you getting to the boss by?
36 seconds
I have some troubles with the second level and when I finally passed it, I forgot where the windows in the 3rd level were so I sometimes have a full stop there
ah rip
heres my fastest recorded run if it can help you at all
i think the absolute upper limit for getting to the boss is around 16.7 seconds, maybe 16.5 if its absolutely flawless
It's actually from your run that I learn you can jump above the wall in the first level
oh cool lol
No way
that's sick!!!
I'm cooking something new
๐
My hands hurts from trying to speedrun lmao
I should probably take a break and look for the pipes for now
yooo your map generator is pretty cool
Thank you
it's probably my most popular Itch.io creation
I'm trying for vedal only now but it's so tough x)
yeah I tried but god bored xd
ok so sub 16.5 boss is very possible
(ignore boss fight, i was too focused on just getting to the boss quickly)
i added a windows build for my game, dunno why someone would prefer it over web built ig more options to play always better
I feel like it could've had a few more features tho, do u take suggestions?
Ngl I haven't developed it in ages so it's unlikely it'll get an update
wth that looks sped up 
But you can share anyway
He's actually insane no way
God tier b hopping
Sadge
@void parcel I've made an update, now you get a special mark on the end screen if you complete the game without dying and or while breaking all the pipes
it doesn't, but you get extra special mark if you also get the tutorial pipe
ooooo
but you cant do deathless at the same time
cause you have to die to get tutorial pipe
yeah thats why i was wondering
you also have to run on speedrun mode after tutorial, because end screen shows only on speedrun mode
I just found the tutorial pipe
Music to my ears ๐ฉธ
I think choosing size of map would be nice! (or do I not see it there?)
also maybe some interactions between civillizations
I wonder if someone will be able to get pipe% deathless xddd
omg thank you sm! your game is one i wanted to try getting a high score in, but my computer hates web games so it was too painful trying to play at 5 fps
oh wow, then someone actually wanted a windows build, good to know 
i meant to leave a comment at some point but forgot
friends high score of reaching wave 87 is still unbeaten. one should definitely reduce the audio when attempting. the hit sound is super quiet but when it triggers 100 times the same moment..
people who collabed with neuro as in neuroverse? i saw in the forum someone makinga graphic with all the collabs ever
- Neuro
- Evil
- dont remember, there should be at least one more
no like, which characters are we allowed to have in the gamejam?
Last year I used Neuro, Evil,Vedal, and Anny.
i'm worried about that kinda stuff
Who ever you want
Camimi also did not complain for the "Abandoned Pub", Cerbi had one entire game for her, Mini was in "troubleshooting".
should i use tutel rancher as reference?
what do you mean "allowed"
idk if anyone would rip your head off if you include one of neuro friends in the game
You can use anyone but Hiyori I think?

i got sued for being a horrible person, my bag only grazed the person, got accused of dumb stuff, now i want to try to play it as safe as possible
did automod trigger using the h word? lmao
D:
im fine now for the most part, but i just wanted to be sure if its ok
No, i think it was me 
oh
troobs said a thing
cant believe he said a thing
Named one character from tutel rancher
happened to me too
Oh
Oh that's why a mod arrived
I thought it was for mentioning Hiyori for some reason

Wait does this trigger it H!yori
no
lol I used that turtle from tutel rancher name (not even name of person it's based on)
use all the automodded words to summon exodia
Rookie mistake smh
it triggers even with "ve" part 
Ah??
surely that mute would not be for too long 
Updated Sea of Memories!!

LETS GOOO
a specific tutel variant that appeared on stream is disallowed on the server
so is now that turle in neuroverse 
the one that Vedal found
lol
Literally 1984
it says dont screenshot 
my bad
Filtered! please don't screenshot
I don't understand what's happening. From my point of view, it looks like I alerted the mods 2 times in a row 
Didn care 
no worries, one was mine i think guarantee
go for 3, lucky number 
brand integrity risk detected, deploy the mods
I wonder what vedal will do since there are no results
am i allowed to say why i got filtered? 
Trying to make the automod work overtime
Avoiding automod smh
it would be super funny If automod said "filtered" when it removes a message
It does but only to person who tried to send the message
Try it, guys 

they should just give alex admin rights over itch functions 
Getting a little bit better
My hand is suffering
filtered
game jam games lost 
Yippie I can have more time to make sure there's no new bugs or issues with the updated version 
no gamejam on stream today 
i feel like he should wait till results are in anyway
at this point, this game jam will become remnant of the past 

I accidentally updated the jam version on itch.io with the same file (so the date looks different)
But Alex said he downloaded everything already so hopefully ok
Yeah alex downloaded everything, you're fine
Yippie 
People of the future will call it the abandoned gamejam



tutel boat
AINTNOWAY neuro said that with turned on filters
Tech youtuber of the year, lmao
GG
Oh shit the game updated as I refreshed xD
If you want to use vtubers in your game I suggest to use indies, some are from agencies like Hololive with Kiara, Lia with phase connect and Zentreya with vshojo, not saying something bad would happen but most companies own the vtuber.
I would suggest contacting them first and ask for permission. For another game I'm developing I asked one and she gave me the okay via email.
agencies may have a page what you can do with the likeness though
so fan games, fan art etc can be allowed without needing to even ask
got vedal run too 
do you think i need to ask perms for indies?
new time god is actually harder it seems
i'll keep all of this in the gamejam of course
oh wow I can't now spam flee before the time god
If it's inside the game jam and are indie Neuro friends, I don't think there's gonna be any problem so you don't need to ask, and even if you do they may not respond, some are really busy or for whatever reason.
So long as you don't portray them in slandering or inappropriate content it should be fine
Okies thx
cumilq are still op
also now I have to redo all calculations cuz of +7 massive timer raise 
not me just making a map to get new max atk and realising I forgot to add 2nd cumilq
NO FREAKING WAY 
Thank you for playtesting it
I love you guys
yea np
Vedal doesn't wanna do gamejam games rn
it's over jam bros... (I'm kidding lmao)
prob waiting for results to come out so he can engage with the top ones
and alex gets donowalled by itch, it's so over
still not sure how we're gonna do the whole SDK thing tho
lol
this is actually quite hard to do
opened a ticket, surely they will go through tickets fast 
nvm I figured it out
this is something crazy tbh
and the new max atk is 1544
Itch.io staff on the daily fighting site-wide crashes, DDOS attacks, funko pops and ignoring Alex: 
That's insane
yeah it is
u need like, the whole map to be events (except 2 cumilq and 2 coldfish) AND you need all of these events to be exactly ones that give u needed results
all shades of red = Imp events
dark blue = raise the timer for 10 supply
u gain supplies for saying "Nuh Uh!" to imps
the beginning was the hardest to made and I'm not even sure it's the best one
there is a chance that it can be improved tbh
it is the most optimized I've found, but might not be the most optimized ever
omg there actually might be
I think I found it 
1576 
unsure if it's still the best tho
but I feel like it is
noway u can get both cumilq earlier
old version on left, new on the right, was a bit lazy to make path but it should be the same anyway
I see... I understand the start with extra camilas
Yea u basically get a couple extra tutels to buy yourself some time, then go for 2 cumilq
Actually...
Oh my there is a better start
1580
Only 4 atk difference
This one literally leaves you with 0 supply at one point AND with 1 turn before fog catches you...
Yea but only if you move with them
Dropping to 0 and gaining them instantly still keeps you alive yeah
Yep that's the strat
Actually wait, it gives you like 2 extra moves compared to others maps too
And since all the red tiles give you some supplies, you can escape from the time god one extra time for +7
1587 it is then
You've add massive timer raise with this update, right?
Yeah! For 10 supplies
Felt like I needed something to let players get rid of massive amounts of supplies for a big reward
Yeah, this new strategy uses it
Red events are Imp, each giving you +3 supply (but also -1 to move so total +2) and you get 6 of these between massive subathon raise
6ร2 = 12 so you always have enough for next massive raise and even a few more left
It's kinda like a loop. 7 tiles, of which 6 give you supply and 1 gives you +7 fog delay for next iteration. With 1 extra supply and 48 ATK after each iteration.
are we still waiting on itch for the results?
You just repeat it until delaying is no more necessary
Ye we still need like 48k subs or smth
Subathon ends sooner than gamejam results appears
wtf is this, why today?
you updated the game?
๐คท
And I've got 1# popularity too
its a good game
I disagree with this
yes,
i wanna play it again later to go as fast as possible 
i think most of the top games are equally as good as eachother, they just excel in different areas
agreed
this is also true
what?
wasap?
guy was asking what happened to katsudonx and deleted it
yes and it was me
yup
wtf
i was worried whether the topic is sensitive or not
how can somebody answer when you delete it?
a part of my trait is if i think i said something out of line, i apologize and clean up
i was looking for their game earlier and couldnt look up their account here on discord, i was curious what happened as well
ok, I have not idea what happended to katsudonx
found their game
it was so cute i loved it
Same, it was great
yeah, it was super cute
i love how the neuro sprite would change after you did one of the dreams
I remember Alex told them to stop posting their game since they have "so many ratings"
bread neuro
breaduro
And I wanted to say something snarky to Alex or post their game by myself but never did lmao
I don't think they were banned, but you can always ask them privately
I am back hello
You have unlocked new role
i atleast got confirmation that they arent dead and didnt get banned
We were so worried about you everyone was crying
my bad
RIP katsudonx
so, what's going on with the results
๐๐๐
nothing
there are none
alex broke something
and itchio "fixes" it
it isn't fixed yet
I can still hear his voice sometimes... 
Yippie kats is back 
Yeah, it's like, he's still together with us...
the accident was our fault...
mods took them away too fast, so young....
itch was down for a couple hours and I thought it was the swarm again haha
that's just itch things
you know
the vibes
it wouldn't be itch io without it
btw, superbot, congrats on beating tutel rancher 
Does Itch often go down like that?
I almost never used it until those last weeks, my account was taking some dust for years
these are mine rn for comparison
Neuro wars is doing pretty good too
Popularity raking is wrong somehow. Scroll right to the bottom and you'll see Remnants of the Archive, which... shouldn't be there.
It was last even before
Even though it shouldn't
Because handfull of people played it and it was very good
Neuro64 being top3 though
Neuro64 being 3rd is surprising
ikr
It was 2nd earlier today
Its still changing i think
It was first at some point too
watch Neuro64 win it all
Yeah, first place: neuro 64, second alex's game, third: vedal's game
wait a sec
Nah, second: Vedal's Secret, third: Turtle Rancher
is it possible that karma is actually a secret modifier that affects all the other filters?
I kept checking the page to see if results showed up yet eventhough I promised myself to focus 100% on work and stop getting distracted haha
its actually possible that Neuro64 is made by a streamer with a decent following in a language that's not english
Everyone there is a streamer, I see a pattern
I shudder to think what the Remnants of the Archive devs did in their past life.
as long as they have a community, it will be played
not good luck bad luck, the itch stat
They are a small English streamer
Wait really?
oo what's the community size like?
Did they stream themselves making the game?
Yes
Who is it?
28 follows and like 100 views
I only saw one stream on Youtube for the Game Jam and it was for one of the Visual Novels that wasn't made on Ren'Py
They have the same name in itchio and twitch
yea I checked out their stream
Oh well, that helps
So one mystery solved
Small streamer with dedicated fanbase that boosted their popularity
Makes sense
Plus, to be honest, people probably got interested by the "64"
Im not saying of course they did anything wrong
Yeah, like some random itch io players
That's crazy, that's messed up D: what the sigma happened to popularity
It's actually funny how random Itch.io players can come out of nowhere and play your game
Turning Itchio randos into Neuro fans by making the best games ever >:D
The biggest mystery is how the fuck is my game 1#
When my game was marked as playable on Android, I noticed that there was a few players that came here outside of the game jam just because they were looking for a Android game
Cuz it's gud and speedrunning fun
yeah, i think someone just came, played my game, said its better than fire emblem and just left
Nice artstyle, Evil fumo thumbnail, good game, speedrunning
after the first 4 days or so, the games on top is usually games that can attract a wide audience, game with alot of replayability, and game with big reach
so like Sea Of Memories or Crazy Robot Body, there's a reason to keep playing it
People enjoy the game, doesn't matter if you think others are better, players choose you instead
Imo, a game if one wants to metagame the popular category, quite some aspects you want to do when you're designing the game
it depends on the audience size too, the people actually playing the games from our game jam is pretty small
so games that makes people play it multiple times helps alot
IE Crazy Robot Body has speed run potential and its fun to keep trying
but say a game like mine or Fragmented, you're done with the story, there's little reason to go back and play again
you deserve to be #1 and the game you made is really fucking awesome
10/10 agree
the game is fun and has hella style
I feel like mine is not very high because the gameloop is not great
Once you've reach the maximum score you can have, what's the point of restarting?
i think the only source of replayability that exist in my game is probably just whether players want to retry missions with their current knowledge of the mission or play the mission but with late game units
I feel like I did something wrong when making my game, the art is practically traced from the original hiyori model, evil fumo, and newer neuro's model made by anny
I wouldn't be able to create it without such a heavy reference
It feels wrong
To me it looks really stylized and I like the frame-switching animation a lot 
It's a really smart artstyle
Its ok, i trace art every time
. Jokes aside, it doesnt matter, how the art was made. The main thing about art is decieving a viewer to like it
||Though imo smartest artstyle goes to Alex's game - specifically the storybook artstyle, kinda genius ngl. But we had many games with amazing art this year ||
for me personally, i really like troubleshooting's artstyle, has really good vibes
I know a lot of games had much better art than the one I worked on. A shame I haven't played many of them.
you can still play them 
for ost tho, i like the remix of life for life dream memory
Decieving the viewer sounds really funny to me
Yesss also gud
Yeah, and its actually the truth
AGREE
Mini's theme goes hard
Music slaps there
Abandoned pub's soundtrack also ended up stuck in my head after playing but don't let troobs know I said that
I sit in the same room with the composer rn
Hes next to me in fact
Thanks)
I salute my fellow cooks this jam 
what do we call the people that burnt down the kitchen
Arsonists
i salute my fellow arsonists 
Undertale's art style some would say is not that good but people like it because it's consistent and the writing makes the characters likeable
coincidence?
Based
Its good in a sense. Designs are very memorable
Yeah, but I think the best thing about it is that it's genuine and it has vision
Erm, you didn't need to delete your messages Lusk

Any news from Alex btw?

I agree, thatโs 6/5 for art just from the style alone haha

Alot of times when it comes to rpgs, nicely designed characters(specifically concept, art design and storytelling merged together) is much more important than the art style, and of course like you said, consistency is important to not break immersion
Yeah, it's about making a believable world, that's why Undertale has great immersion, everything feels alive
everyone relates to the fastfood worker
Next gamejam we should actually make a megacollab with all people in one team 
Pros:
- it will be masterpiece
- everybody wins
- Vadul will definitely play our game on stream
- a lot of itchio randos will join our cult
Cons: - none
con: difficult to coordinate 2 randos, imagine a few hundred xD
pros: just imagine the content
everyone makes a minigame and the game is warioware style
25 managers, 25 writers, 100 devs, 200 artists, 3 days, what could possibly go wrong 
Devs don't scale xD
Make them do different parts of the project 
The inevitable merge conflict will be incredible
Could just make like an open world, each dev gets a piece of the world to work with
we gna program the whole neuroverse
Lead dev connect the entire architecture through interfaces first
And as long as the devs work only on their part, there shouldnโt be conflicts
Lets gooo
An untold law of working with Git says that there will always be a merge conflict, even if everyone works on its own scene/file
Speaking from experience 
Or maybe my classmates are just dumb with Git, it's also possible
100 devs making a game without coordination
Then weโll have to take drastic measures, everyone will only be exporting unity packages to one guy, since coordinating the git will take more than 3 days, so 1 guy combines the work of 100 devs
Lets goooo
Random bullshit go
Are we voting on which game engine to use?
gna make it from scratch
We could do it without a gamejam too, just start an event or something
Who said about no coordination?
*on scratch
nah we just start our own jam, unofficial neuro jam 1, who participates will be put in same team
Reality
You seem to be pretty pessimistic
or experienced
Both neuro game jams?
Right
That's 1 more than me lmao
And all of that in 3 days?
same, my experience is also just both nuru game jams
Yes
A roguelike, each dev makes 1 room for a total of 100 rooms
Well then, who needs sleep anyway
Speaking of, I need to wake up at 8am and it's 2am right now, whoops
4 days would be better, i think. Both times just one additional day would allow us to finish
Then what am I with 13 completed jams?
Seems that such team will take 3 days to just decide what to do 
Not sleeping that night
This is why managers exist
The universe
Decide as a team? Nah everyone does its own thing
Each room will be completely different and uses different mechanics but it'll be fine
ยซBefore there was time, before there was anything, there was nothing. And before there was nothing... there were monsters.ยป
What if we make a story game with dozens of routes and a whole lot of mini games in different styles
Our team had to plan before the jam started, so that we wont waste too much time on the jam
Different mechanics would be good rather than bad
AI like levels of consistency
Anything that involves a story is out of the question, that's extremely difficult to do
^
We get a bunch of writers to come up with main idea and their own routes
Not possible
Meanwhile programmers do their minigames which would be implemented in that story
You are telling me that we can beat hypetrain WR for fun but can't make a game together?
The story: epic battle of good vs evil.
The gameplay: fart flappy bird clone.
But would be very funny
3 days wonโt be enough to even merge everything in one project 
And where's the problem 
Probably
Did we get a time of when it will be fixed?
how do i see the ratings?
No way, the results are here! I won 
Should we all join the itch discord and pester them?(dont =P)
But 3 days and 1 hour extension will 
1 hour is all it takes 
No way you beat me to first place 
What did you win?! ๐ฎ
Yo, I ranked 278th 
lost to empty files (that got disqualified)
Participation paper
(I assume everyone is joking, right? =P)
For a second i wasnt sure
ye, itch still needs to read alex ticket and fix stuff, then alex needs to publish ratings
I ranked 279th
You guys got me for a moment until I backread the messages.
There were 280 submitions at some point ๐
I was reading them and still wasnt sure ๐
There were over 700 ppl who joined jam
Imagine losing to ppl without submissions 
Granted maybe each person on a team possibly entered
Are you the guy that reuploaded abandoned archive demo?
(It was the game that was deleted last, before it got to 278)
in our case tho, only 2 of us had itch accounts
That would mean your game is literally worse than staring at a wall 
I think average team size was less here
Sounds about right 
I think it was 282, then 3 got deleted first day, and abandoned archive 2 (reuploaded demo) was deleted a few days later
it got disqualified
Nah it was someone else
just opened discord and got jebaited 
(It was a joke, it was just not funny because itโs 5am)
I do think so, despite being part of an outlier
Can someone check how much subs we need?
48k
So close... Yet so far...
They turned results into a subgoal 
Next subgoal will be Vedal playing the games
250k?
Yeah that makes sense
And on 300k subgoal winners get their prizes 
Someone tell Vedal there is a problem with his gamejam
there never is a problem 
#1 Tech(issues) Vtuber of the year
the game jam was amazing glad i submitted something to it XD
holy fuck im getting so close to cracking that 40 second barrier
it probably could have been sub 42 as well if i didnt mess up on the rooftops
that second level destroyed me when i was trying to go fast lol
yeah its not super easy
getting up on the building after the one with the glass without losing too much speed is such a pain
i also kept jumping over the wires in the boss fight lol
someone submit the game to speedrun.com lol
i thought about it lol
then when vedal play it, someone tells he has to beat the WR and if he does he gets 100 gifted subs or smth
yeah same. i also realized i should probably rotate clockwise around the boss arena because that way i would be able to see the upcoming wires. so im gonna be trying to change my muscle memory
it looks like if you did a quick 180 after cutting the 4th wire it could save some time as well
it seems that the wires always reappear just after you pass one of the spots and you have to do 1/4 of a rotation again
idk how feasible that is tho
i mean that mostly comes down to managing the speed. its certainly possible to always be at a wire when they respawn
its also technically possible to tighten the rotation since you can hit the wires from quite far away when in front of them, but that would require a ton of precision
but i mean if you got too fast it would be really hard to avoid jumping over the wires while also not losing speed
well if you get used to how long the wires take to reapper you could always lose or gain just enough speed while they dont show up to hit the first one instantly
i dont think it can be added to speedrun.com...
we have a few games that have a score hunt feature
Crazy Robot Body obviously has speedrun timer,
my game has enemies defeated count in endless mode,
sea of memories has people hunt for highest atk/hp,
unhando and super pinball rogue can basically go infinite too with scores
replay-ability prolly plays a big role in popularity, makes sense that crazy robot body is #1 rn. its a good game and replay-able for time hunters
my hand hurts. hopefully sub 40 tomorrow 
i think i found a relatively consistent pattern for the boss as well, i just need to execute it eventually. basically you dont worry too much about building speed while cutting the wires, but as theyre respawning you use that time to build speed while dashing to the opposite side of the platform
if you keep dashing without jumping while cutting the wires, you dont lose enough speed to become an issue, its only after a full rotation that you really start feeling the effects. but at that point the wires should be respawning and thats when you regain the lost speed
ive just checked and apparently ive done 368 recorded runs... probably around 500 total then... damn
Gotta go fast
Speedrunners pushing the popularity
Haha
What was your game?
Jumble Fruit XD
Oh, I didn't notice before but I should have by the "XD", I commented in your game and shared screenshots, good to see you are interacting with the game dev community, that can help you a lot in your development growth
jam results after subathon ๐
Iโll give it a play later haha
What why
Also I think i didnโt see anyone mention this but Layna will be playing game jam games โtodayโ for me itโs today
It made me buy siralim ultimate over cassette beasts
Good to know, if she plays my game, somebody should tag me, but I'll probably be sleeping 
is today like in a couple of hours from now?
Are results out yet?
Not yet 
not that I can see
In almost 10 hours ๐
wrong panel
Damn, I feel like I'll force myself to update my game before we get results 
We'll get the result on the release date of abandonned archive
So results will be abandoned too?

To get results you must buy the game

Btw question to anyone who played it, should I even update it
I mean it lacks a lot of stuff but I'm quite unsure that someone will play it even if I add that stuff
Maybe the real remnant of the past was gamejam we lost along the way
https://kotgedev.itch.io/life-dream-memory finally got around to uploading my post-jam update 
fun
@waxen trail there is a problem with how u scale text for full-screen version 
Great find! This is with the fullscreen and not the web, right?
fullscreen on the web
Good intel, will fix it a bit later!!
here how it looks
is it just me being unlucky or making a glass cannon is harder now
not sure tbh, probably just me being unlucky
also in full screen there's that blue line on the right
when fighting
Yeah glass cannon is a bit harder atm 
like here, dark blue one (also on my previous time god ss)
Hmm yeah, this is due to the screen being bigger than the drawn background
Will try to fix
yea, if u need it my screen resolution is 1920 x 1080
it's perfectly fine on my 2nd screen tho, with 1920 x 1200 resolution
both things are fine, I mean
nice team I got 
NO WAY, I ALSO HAVE TWO SCREENS WITH THESE SAME SIZES 
ig that means u can test it easily too 
I dont think so
Anything we can do to help?
All we can do is waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting...
I just wonder if Alex could get a hold of support or if there is still no update. ๐
yea it was updated yesterday





