2024-game-jam

[rotund rampart]

its hilarious

[quick badger]

comment on it too to increase popularity 👀

[native chasm]

what is "Ccept" and why is it popular word?

[waxen wasp]

Ccept

[small radish]

they just make shit up

[lament ermine]

Our team? 3 game jam veterans, who were the developers including me. Others were artists, manager and sound designers. We did have a pretty solid team, yeah

[hasty drift]

i Weap

[small radish]

i just googled "how to build webgl unity" like an hour before the original deadline. had it submitted 20 minutes later

[rotund rampart]

I took like 4 hours building and submitting

[small radish]

more weap

[waxen wasp]

the comments like igglyn apparently

[rotund rampart]

everytime I build, and about to upload, I find something new to change

[waxen trail]

I'm sg 😳

[quick badger]

damn it got a long way to go if we want vedal to try it

no alex x vedal on stream smh

[waxen trail]

M!

xDD

[waxen wasp]

oh, i can see why, he signed every response with his name

[small radish]

i just found inner peace in my mediocrity and didn't look back lol

[unreal plinth]

Last day I built the game like 20 times, thought itch was gonna ban me for reuploading the game every 5 seconds :p

[waxen trail]

Makes sense

[rotund rampart]

ignore the thank yous, those are all me.
people's favourite is cute, and neuro and cerber

[proper bronze]

yeah, we were first time game jammers so I think that makes a difference.

[lament ermine]

Ours is: "Very, Really, But, That, It, Be, Art, Good, For, Cli, Get, Great, I'm, Love, Th, Used, Would, Nice, Music"

I'd share screenshots but I'm in VR using my phone with pass through

[hasty drift]

Samba

[proper bronze]

would love to know what people thought about the music tho

[lament ermine]

Why the hell is "Th" counted as a word

[molten shadow]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213368
plugging one last time before i board the plane back from break

[rotund rampart]

I wanted to forcefully change the players answer of "Cerber" to Samba, Server, Sava etc for a few times, but I ran out of time

[molten shadow]

huh weird why did it unembed

[unreal plinth]

I made sure to enter server and samba myself when playing, gotta keep up the realism

[rotund rampart]

I had prioritize adding the fail safe for the dog chews shoes bit cause playtesters felt it was hard

[waxen trail]

Same, it made me roleplay

[hasty drift]

there is a fail save? i did it first try

[lament ermine]

I had the idea of an enemy called "Termina" that hacks into your console and tries to sabotage you

[small radish]

my dumb ass could not do the last one without the fail-safe lol

[lament ermine]

I just like the word Termina

[hasty drift]

i only failed the first one bc i wrote the name wrong on purpose

[signal monolith]

I LOVE THIS ONE, my favorite game of this jam

[small radish]

new idea: enemy which is called "Alex" and it just opens vr chat on your pc

[marsh swan]

Hello everyone how is it going?

[molten shadow]

thanks it was a team effort, we had a lot of fanfic writers on board workin on the story

i just did a lil coding

[native chasm]

btw we are almost at average of 10 ratings per submission

[signal monolith]

it was really cool, definetly the best story of all games I've played in this jam

[marsh swan]

@small radish awesome xD

[small radish]

it's not, i'm going through the "leave me behind, i'm beyond saving" - stage of every guy having a cold rn

[marsh swan]

OH sick in that way xDDD

[waxen trail]

How I feel about installing Neuro SDK after I know about the Alex backdoor into Vedal's VR chat

[marsh swan]

im sorry my guy get well soon <3

[hasty drift]

Alex is in all our pcs now

[waxen trail]

Get well soon !!

[small radish]

had a fever since the second day of the game jam
but it at least gives me a reason to procrastinate. can't be working on assignments when you're sick yknow

[lament ermine]

Nice

[marsh swan]

were u participating?

[small radish]

yea, mine is this one https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213225
got cut kinda short, partially because i lost some coding time from being sick, mainly because i suck at planning lol

[marsh swan]

yea i mean if u got sick during the thing xD its understandable

[ornate belfry]

He sorts by popularity too :((( idk how sorting by popularity works but it's all the way down there probably because it's such a short game 😭

[rotund rampart]

Yea, had to account for people who don’t do that too well since I wanted it to be a more fun experience and not stress inducing, if you fail twice, it just gives you the answer

[marsh swan]

I think I almost got sick myself because of the last day crunch

I think for the last day I haven't slept for full 24 hours

[lament ermine]

everyone whose games won't be played on stream

[native chasm]

btw how do I get itch io sandbox?

[hasty drift]

If a doggo choose to chew shoes whose shoes would it choose

[waxen trail]

I pulled an all nighter the last day and slept less than 6 hours afterwards D:

[waxen trail]

Download the Itch.io app, then go to settings and the option should be there!

[unreal plinth]

Slept like 10 hours in total over the 3 days, and then had my full workday after I finished submitting my jam game

[small radish]

ya'll need to sleep more holy
gonna be more effective to not pull an all nighter most of the time as well

[rotund rampart]

I did a few hours of theorizing this today, basically its impressions proportion to views/plays. If impressions is much higher, popularity drops. This means VNs in general gets a debuff

[marsh swan]

Honestly probably true

[native chasm]

thanks

[lament ermine]

We slept normally, except really late thx to the timezones

[marsh swan]

My efficiency was so low on the last day xD

[ornate belfry]

yeah we're cooked

[lament ermine]

Needed the energy to work, if sleep deprived wouldn't be able to cook as good

[marsh swan]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213022 That's my game btw :D

[small radish]

yeup, that's usually when you got the most annoying things left to solve as well, so motivation is gonna be lower, energy is lower. it's a mess.
maybe for a 3 day jam going for the all nighter might make it better, but as soon as you're at a week or smth it's just not going to be worth it anymore

[unreal plinth]

Might be sleep deprived, but can't go and sleep if I'm in the zone

[marsh swan]

for sure!

[hasty drift]

what does impression mean and how does it make VNs worse off?

[small radish]

to be fair, i say all these things but i don't usually follow them myself

[small radish]

adding it to the list to check out

[rotund rampart]

Usually the basic mentality is that when you see a vn, you’ll assume its long, so you put it off for abit, the system more or less sees that as “someone looked at it and finds it uninteresting”, even if you play afterwards. Impression just means how many times people saw your game link

[lament ermine]

I think it also depends on the role, if it's straight forward like making art (assuming you've been given good directions) then being sleep deprived is not as bad

[marsh swan]

thx a lot :D I m checking out yours right now!

[fringe star]

decided to prep by sleeping 16 hrs before the jam, slept a twice, 4 hrs each during the jam, i am not sleep deprived

[lament ermine]

Oversleeping is a debuff

[small radish]

one more edit

[unreal plinth]

Wanted to prep sleep, and ended up barely managing to squeeze in 8 hours before the jam, my brain couldn't stop running

[marsh swan]

xDDD thats one way to do it

[lament ermine]

i kept coming up with ideas before theme was announced, and kept having to restrain myself in case it was all moot

Well turns out I could just use the ideas I came up because adapting it to the theme wasn't a big issue

[fringe star]

me too

[unreal plinth]

Yeah, luckily the theme wasn't something weird and hyper specific like some other jams

[marsh swan]

yea I think this theme was great

[fringe star]

all i did was try to assign weapons to the charaters, aka evil with the harpoon and neuro with the bomb

had a hard time with vedal tho, but mini's weapon was probably the hardest

[lament ermine]

Our initial idea was that someone unleashes an ancient eldritch horror into the world, causing an apocalypse and you as Evil have to protect Vedal and co from things trying to sneak into the Vedal Headquarters

You would do that by controlling devices around the base like turrets, drones via a cli

[fringe star]

oh shit thats sick

[lament ermine]

Also had the POV of an AI with watching through cameras and shit

We had to cut back on that a lot because making all the camera perspectives, enemies, and characters would be too much for artists

And programming wise it took us a while to get all the systems done

[rotund rampart]

I actually pivoted from a horror game, initially I was gonna make a nightmare based horror game where Neuro misinterprets past interactions with Vedal and it manifests into weird fever dreams of evil Vedal while going through past stream moments.

[lament ermine]

Oooh, cool

[rotund rampart]

but then I kept seeing everyone going all sad and depressy

so I made a happy game instead

[lament ermine]

A psychological horror game

[rotund rampart]

there were a few with this theme

[lament ermine]

We wanted some of the rooms be like movie set pieces of themed streams

[rotund rampart]

that would've been great

[small radish]

what my game was supposed to be was some kind of mix between vampire survivors and RoR. You'd start out with a basic ship and then slowly collect scrap or whatever currency to upgrade it. This is basically in the game jam version so far.
But then I also wanted more types of weapons, and more importantly, pickups that acts as mainly passive abilities.
So like a "bag of hell bones" would have the effect of "chance to attach wan bone to enemies on hit" and the dog bones would be small explosives which exploded after a duration.
Maybe a lava lamp which would drop patches of fire when you used your boosters. Anny's star would make you periodically shoot out bullets in a star pattern. etc etc

[lament ermine]

Yeah, I wish we could've made it happen

[rotund rampart]

alwya next year haha

[small radish]

oh shove off neuro bot

[hasty drift]

essaying

[lament ermine]

We are going to open source the project

[rotund rampart]

you can always do that out of game jam, I think its good practice for someone pretty new into game dev

[lament ermine]

And maybe turn into a collaborative thing with neurocord

[small radish]

yea, I might expand on it later. Currently doing a 3 years game dev program at uni so i have a million very simple protypes that i could expand as well

[rotund rampart]

ayyy good luck! I'm pretty new to this discord, mostly been just a watcher rather than being a part of the community, but from my week-ish here, I'm sure there's alot of qualified people who can give you good advice

[small radish]

also pretty new here. been trying to absorb as much knowledge as i can, but luckily i'm never lacking good advice since we've also got a great community at uni as well

[lament ermine]

I'm a solo game dev, working on an VR eldritch horror Parkour shooter

[small radish]

going from a very dry and academical "research first" type education in astro physics to the game dev one where our teachers invited us to a discord server day one was kinda jarring ngl, but very appreciated

[lament ermine]

That sounds chill

I'd love for my assignments to be make a game

[small radish]

how's the solo game dev life? do you have another job and then do game dev on the side? full time game dev?

[lament ermine]

College student, studying AI and ML

[sage sapphire]

good morning

[rotund rampart]

mornin

[lament ermine]

I work on the game when I have time

It's a long term project

[small radish]

it's kinda great ngl. first programing course we had was a semester of OOP at 50% and we just made 6 small games for the hand ins

[lament ermine]

So Im just chipping away at it piece by piece

Currently I have the movement mechanics done

I got started on weapons

And enemies... enemies is a whole thing

[small radish]

sounds fun. I'm kinda scared to start any long term projects rn, since i feel like i keep finding out so many new things which i'd need to include from the start of development. probably gonna stick to very small games for a while more

[rotund rampart]

VR AI and ML, are you trying to create SAO

[lament ermine]

Yeah that's pretty smart

[sage sapphire]

noice, I started a game dev club in my campus so I'm trying to get better at game dev. hoping I can get good enough I can turn this into a career

[lament ermine]

I don't intend on using AI in the game, that's for doing robotics in the future

[rotund rampart]

which one was your game again

[sage sapphire]

this one https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212223

rn after playing some card games I know what went wrong

[rotund rampart]

oh this one, yea, keep working on it, it has potential

[small radish]

you'll need some sort of ai for enemies, even if it's just really basic decision trees or smth

[lament ermine]

Oh yeah, I meant like I don't intend on adding like neural networks and shit as enemies

[rotund rampart]

nah, I like my enemies standing still

[lament ermine]

Because that's stupid overkill

[small radish]

literally my assignment rn

[lament ermine]

If I wanted to do that, I'd probably design the whole game around it because it's not an easy thing to do

[native chasm]

can someone explain what I have to do in the Fragments of Humanity?

[sage sapphire]

Yea currently reworking a few of the systems and testing how it would play out

[fringe star]

i dont know which engine you use, but for the ai in my game i just have it move at random and attack if an enemy is in range

[small radish]

"Implement an ANN as an AI-controller in some sort of game environment to achieve a passing grade"
but yea, it's most likely just going to be the ANN and at most some dot the "player" can move around or smth. thinking of feeding it the coordinates of the last 10 frames of the player and have it try to shoot at the player using only that

[native chasm]

oh so basically nothing except first text and room is made?

[rotund rampart]

I believe so yea

[lament ermine]

Maybe pathfinding flying AI? Ask it to move somewhere, give it raycasts as input

[native chasm]

ah, got it

[lament ermine]

Though your idea is pretty workable too

[sage sapphire]

also, a really weird trick I learned in turn based games is that slowing down the game AI gives it the impression of "thinking" which is interesting since it already knows what it wants to do

[native chasm]

Sadge

[small radish]

that could also work. i'll take any idea honestly. really hard to come up with something to use and more importantly train an ANN on in a very basic game environment

[lament ermine]

Nice

I like doom eternal's combat system

[rotund rampart]

pacing is pretty important to let players process things in sequence

[small radish]

at the end of an ai in games course and like 70% of it was about how to make the AI seem smarter or dumber than it is

[lament ermine]

Each enemy requests tokens from the player to able to attack

[sage sapphire]

the push forward mentality

[rotund rampart]

its kinda hard to balance combat pacing in turn based though

[native chasm]

Have anyone played The Fallen God? can't download it in itch.io app for some reason

[rotund rampart]

you need a sweet spot between "too fast" and "too slow"

both can alienate players

[nimble dew]

Ha you could have recreated this meme as the thumbnail 😉 A really fun game. I beat it on the first try. Nearly all other games I played had much worse or no gameplay. 😉

[lament ermine]

Which means that you can adjust difficulty by increasing the number of tokens

[small radish]

like you could make the best chess AI in the world but if your goal is to make a fun chess game to play that's not gonna be good. not fun to lose 100% of the games you play yknow

[lament ermine]

More tokens, more enemies can attack at any one time

[marsh swan]

Oh thank you so much! :D

I was really worried about the quality of the game ngl

I wasted so much time trying to create a usable controls and animation controller 😭

[lament ermine]

Yeah, also have to make the AI predictable or telegraph it's attacks

[lament ermine]

I noticed a lot of games I like emphasizes close combat

[unreal plinth]

Ah, you're the one that made the Neuro Metal Gear game!
Was gonna check it out when I'm free cause I'd also made a stealth-based Neuro game, somewhat inspired by me recently starting to play MGS 1 (Gameplay is not like MGS at all though)

[marsh swan]

Oh really?!

send it!

[small radish]

simulating human input delay can help, it's like 0.2 seconds i think. So adding a slightly varying delay between maybe 0.18 and 0.3?

[nimble dew]

I find it hard to rank all those "mid" games. Some have some really good art or are really fun which is easy to rate but if all is just "ok"? Hm.

[lament ermine]

An unbeatable enemy would work great for horror games, or where the emphasis is on working around the enemy like stealth games

[unreal plinth]

It's not got the best visuals and I didn't manage to make it have quite the gameplay that I wanted, cause I'm just a single programmer, but I think it more or less captures what I had intended originally. Got a lot to upgrade and fix though.
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3210589

[lament ermine]

3 stars imo is ok

[nimble dew]

Like in Alien Isolation. I loved that game.

[lament ermine]

4 stars is good

5 stars is s-tier

[waxen trail]

Honestly I'm subjective in my reviews, if art is not necessarily objectively "s-tier" but I really like it I'll rank 5 anyway

[sage sapphire]

I mean, I also like that kind of combat mostly cuz it requires slightly less skill cuz of higher guarantee of hitting compared to guns and learning to aim

[rotund rampart]

okay completed my backlog

who wants their game played

[lament ermine]

I don't think it's because of less skill requirements (see: dark souls) but more that it's more fast paced and energetic

Camping and playing slow, cautious and stealthy is not fun

[hasty drift]

you already played mine maybe its time to sort by least rated to help ppl get a better avg rating distribution

[sage sapphire]

that is true

[small radish]

cool idea, but consider this instead https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213225

[rotund rampart]

yea, its time

[hasty drift]

i see always the same names in this channel so i assume almost everyone here played all other ones games

[lament ermine]

Same

[native chasm]

why can't I download some of the games with itch.io app, even though they have files to download?

[rotund rampart]

I don't think so(?), I mainly promoted here and have about 52, and most the comments (about 30+ are from people here), so if you're having less than 30 rates, someone probably hasn't played

and even then I still have like 2 from this chat in the past couple hours

[small radish]

yknow what i'm sure you haven't seen yet https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830

[hasty drift]

plugging girl

[rotund rampart]

plugging girl haha

[lament ermine]

https://voidbois.itch.io/troubleshooting

[small radish]

the strongest warrior

[marsh swan]

have u played mine?

[rotund rampart]

I'm not much better haha

[rotund rampart]

turn based roguelike?

[hasty drift]

mine is at 3

[marsh swan]

nope

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213022

this one

[small radish]

magic number

[rotund rampart]

oh yea not yet soz

its still like this

@marsh swan

[marsh swan]

xD

[lament ermine]

10 times, and not all of those are from me

[turbid saddle]

y'know what, I think I'll start self-promoting here too!

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211398

[small radish]

everyone loves her

[turbid saddle]

would be nice if the preview appeared

[hasty drift]

[rotund rampart]

hey iz me

[lament ermine]

Embed permissions maybe

[small radish]

literally just popped up as i opened itch.io lol

[turbid saddle]

what's that?

[marsh swan]

Oh also I really appreciate when people put a game into a folder and when I unzip it dosent just go all over the place with files

[rotund rampart]

I no lie

[lament ermine]

You need to chat before you get abilities like posting images, getting embeds (the preview) and stuff

[small radish]

you need to be active in the discord before you can embed things. idk how it works exactly but i think it's based on how much you chat

[rotund rampart]

you need to post enough before you can upload pictures and links

[lament ermine]

[turbid saddle]

dang rip

thank ya ppl 👍

[lament ermine]

np

[turbid saddle]

that's a pity too cause the cover of the game is adorable too
hope people get to play it still!
https://lionelbell.itch.io/memory-frenzy

[rotund rampart]

@marsh swan am I supposed to be unable to go in

[marsh swan]

The thumbnail is sick! xD

[marsh swan]

yes with z :P

not c

[turbid saddle]

thanks!!

[lament ermine]

Oh I played your game! Couldn't finish it tho, I got stuck at 5/3 shrines and Neuro was invincible

[turbid saddle]

that's interesting, wonder if it was a glitch, or maybe you didn't get the memories found at the bottom?

[marsh swan]

It does look like u could go there with just crouch xD

[lament ermine]

I explored the whole map, I couldn't find anything to interact with or collect

[turbid saddle]

I put an arrow to show were to go when neuro is going to next phase

I see, probs a glitch, interesting cause never happened in playtesting

[nimble dew]

You can crawl with Y/Z and moving forward.

[rotund rampart]

got it

[tacit wasp]

Finally played the breeding game
It sure is something

[small radish]

yea, peak

[hasty drift]

game so intense, vedal could not handle it on stream

[native chasm]

yeah it's a good one

[rotund rampart]

@marsh swan played and rated, left a comment

[waxen wasp]

it was animated, i can see why he didnt want to have the breeding on stream

[rotund rampart]

Hahaha

[small radish]

him tabbing out and being like "ok, that's that" and then tabbing back in and instantly getting the "breeding" sounds and just closing it was peak

[tacit wasp]

Twitch wouldn't have been able to handle such greatness

[rotund rampart]

I really want vedal to play Neurosoda’s game

[proper bronze]

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1324418693823860798
decided to just upload the music i made

[tacit wasp]

Do you think he's gonna leave the game in the middle of it too?

[hasty drift]

I think so

[marsh swan]

Thank u!

[waxen wasp]

is it plug time?

[native chasm]

oh right, I should play that one

[rotund rampart]

its always plug time

[waxen wasp]

aight

[rotund rampart]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213059
pluggity plug

[waxen wasp]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213324

[quick badger]

https://pinkwolfgames.itch.io/memoneuros we pluggin?

[hasty drift]

won my game by basically only playing evil, nice

[rotund rampart]

I don't think you're supposed to put newer versions into the description

[waxen trail]

Evil best unit

[rotund rampart]

yes Evil is broken

she hits 5

[waxen wasp]

is it against the rules?

[hasty drift]

i had to nerf her 3 times before release..

[waxen trail]

[hasty drift]

initially, she penetrated infinite enemies so i capped it to 5

[rotund rampart]

@waxen wasp

[waxen wasp]

oh fuck

lemme fix that

[rotund rampart]

even 5 made her the best unit in game haha

[waxen wasp]

nobody saw anything

[rotund rampart]

but idm

its Evil, she SHOULD be the best unit haha

[hasty drift]

yea i will do balance changes if i release endless mode after the jam

[rotund rampart]

I think the upgrades aren't really worth the cost other than the range though, so maybe you want to balance that abit more

[lament ermine]

I immediately went to spam Evil down once I saw what her ability was

[hasty drift]

yea upgrade system will be revamped

[rotund rampart]

I spammed evil without reading

[waxen wasp]

i guess it only specified that download links aren't allowed, so im technically not in the wrong.
still removed it tho

[rotund rampart]

and then I read much later

[lament ermine]

I used them a couple of times to see if they were useful

[rotund rampart]

basically they don't want the ratings to be skewed by people having more time than the original 72 hours

[hasty drift]

upgrading was better but i implemented it very generic, meaning its a % increase for every tower. vedal unit could reduce movement to zero lol. thats why i made upgrades weaker. but now its just not rly worth for other units

[lament ermine]

I think increasing range on Vedal slow is useful

[rotund rampart]

even eliv should get 1 or 2 range upgrades in certain spots to maximize the pierce damage

[lament ermine]

I didn't really get the difference between Anny and Neuro, they both seem to have the same low range attack

I just assumed Anny does more damage and left it at that

[hasty drift]

anny damages every unit in the area

[lament ermine]

Ohhh

That's cool

[rotund rampart]

honestly a roguelike element to the towers would be fun

[hasty drift]

if i had more time i would have asked the artist to draw animated claw swing indication for the damage area

[lament ermine]

I had no idea she did an AOE attack

[hasty drift]

normally if u select the tower it has a text to tell you

[lament ermine]

Yea but I was winning so I assumed whatever I was doing was working

[hasty drift]

yea the game balance is not really that well, you can literally just place neuro on every tile and win

thought i had solved that but its still possible

[winged hull]

I'm slightly late for plugging time https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212755

[rotund rampart]

its already really good for a 3 day game though

[lament ermine]

I tried doing that the first time but died, so switched up my strategy

[winged hull]

balancing during a jam is really hard

[rotund rampart]

I will play thy game

[lament ermine]

Yea, true

[hasty drift]

yea just wish i decided differently on the balance before deadline ran out. should have playtested a few more times

[lament ermine]

I wished you added some juice to the attacks, make the enemy sprites scale up and down on damage

[rotund rampart]

update it after the jam! its has alot of potential

[hasty drift]

endless mode and neuro sdk implement is planned

[rotund rampart]

honestly I kinda wished I did a platformer haha

[hasty drift]

didnt think about it. my thoughts were sound effects when attacking and when destroying/hitting an enemy. but then i thought if you got 100 towers and 100 enemies, there would be too many sounds

[lament ermine]

Flashback to seeing that one image on Alex's board "I hate platformers"

[rotund rampart]

imo my game doesn't have much replayability or discussion value to it

[lament ermine]

Yeah, that makes sense

[rotund rampart]

so its kinda just
-> people play it
-> comment
-> move on

[hasty drift]

many story games are like that

[lament ermine]

My favorite games are not replaceable

Replayable

Doki doki literature club

Katawa Shoujo

[winged hull]

Not being replayable isn't bad. double-so in a game jam

[cerulean jetty]

Yap.

[cerulean jetty]

Oneshot

[lament ermine]

And there are more but I can't remember- Oneshot!

[cerulean jetty]

I want Neuro to experience that game.

[lament ermine]

I think there's something special there, that's worth more than just fun

[cerulean jetty]

That game literally played on my heart like no other.

[lament ermine]

I liked how in the ending, it felt personal

[cerulean jetty]

Yes.

Impossible to do what that game is doing while being replayable.

[lament ermine]

Same with ddlc

[cerulean jetty]

You really only have one shot with that game.

[lament ermine]

XD

[cerulean jetty]

Also, one trick it does. It is a little oldschool (it felt like an old point and click adventure game), but designed to be free of the BS that is normally in those. You don't need to look up anything, you are guaranteed to solve everything it throws at you just by random chance if nothing else.

Okay, there was one thing I had to look up but that would be a real spoiler. ||linux compat has one issue that it solves quite elegantly||

[lament ermine]

Also, replaying games has the problem of players understanding all the smoke and mirrors that the developers use to make the magic, which takes away from the magic

[cerulean jetty]

That can also be fun.

To me that is mostly an issue if the cutscenes are long, and I can't run around in circles while they happen.

[lament ermine]

No, I'm talking about how the game feels hollow when you see the previously lively NPCs repeat themselves

There's a bit of existential dread there

[cerulean jetty]

I see.

Yeah, not for me.

To me it's the same as re-reading a book or rewatching a movie.

[sage sapphire]

it's you

[rotund rampart]

commented and rated

[quick badger]

it me x)

I have a different username than on twitch x)

[sage sapphire]

I noticed

[native chasm]

oh that's kinda true

[sage sapphire]

adding this to my list

[rotund rampart]

it is a fun and frustrating game, but the good kind

[sage sapphire]

looking forward to it

[cunning inlet]

I feel like there's no more reason to plug my game here cuz all the names look familiar and I know they've seen it already xdd

[winged hull]

exactly my hope

[tacit wasp]

I was about to plug my game and got the same thought lmao

[waxen trail]

True. Which is why I'll plug your game!! PLAY VAZA'S EVIL'S MALICE IF YOU HAVEN'T CUZ IT'S GUD
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213257

[rotund rampart]

I'm still getting new plays from this chat

[tacit wasp]

I just played Vedal's game, I think I killed Neuro and the game crashed
Game by N°1 Tech Vtuber of the Year

[quick badger]

different people lurk here I'm guessing

[rotund rampart]

and there's people lurking and just reading like @cerulean jetty

[rotund rampart]

how? I couldn't even figure out how to deal damage to neuro

[cerulean jetty]

I did play a few games if that is what you mean.

[native chasm]

7 ratings away from 10x amount of entries

[waxen trail]

True but honestly if I had to code a game on stream while Neuro is yapping 24/7 I'd probably do much worse

[cerulean jetty]

I just have the rating on the team account

[rotund rampart]

yea haha, I'm just saying there's people who read more than speak

[tacit wasp]

Spammed the judgement cards to kill drones and just killed Neuro at some point with it

[winged hull]

as a lurker, this is very true

[native chasm]

I just replayed Vedal's game and only now understood how to win/lose lol

[tacit wasp]

I still don't know how to capture Vedal though

And I supposed I haven't win as Vedal either since the game crashed

[waxen trail]

I'll plug our game "Sea of Memories" for all the lurkers and go back to trying to implement the NeuroSDK 🌊
https://superobot1.itch.io/sea-of-memories

[tacit wasp]

Honestly, yeah, true
Before talking for the Game Jam here, I lurked in the Discord chat for a long time

[quick badger]

this one good, one of my favorite of the jam

[native chasm]

I think u just spam drones and try to get next to him and damage

[waxen trail]

But also play low-rated games as much as you can, I plan to do that in a couple hours

[sage sapphire]

I tried the game, it's pretty neat

[native chasm]

but I feel like difficulty is rigged in his favor tbh

[tacit wasp]

I tried to surround Vedal but the drones never lasted long enough

[native chasm]

same

[lament ermine]

https://voidbois.itch.io/troubleshooting if we're plugging

[tribal tartan]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212851 Another one?

[rotund rampart]

yeah, I pay close attention to the names of people who are "typing and then decide not to" and sometimes random names that're not speaking actually reacts

[waxen trail]

Ok screw it I'll play this and a couple of the other ones I wanted to try out NeuroSDK can wait

[rotund rampart]

this one is worth it

[rotund rampart]

imma play this now

[waxen trail]

It has Troobs art so I'm hella hyped to try it out

[rotund rampart]

I'll leave a comment

[tacit wasp]

Yep, I was part of those people that reacted to messages without speaking lmao

And since we're plugging: https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211795

[lament ermine]

We have Lorx, not Troobs

[waxen trail]

Oooooo

[sage sapphire]

development can wait, since ratings can close but we have more time to improve the games later

[lament ermine]

Troobs was on Abandoned Pub

[tacit wasp]

I'm probably not gonna continue development of the game until January 7th
Mostly because exams are getting in the way next week

[rotund rampart]

go study

[waxen trail]

You're right, I just really want to have the SDK integration working so I don't have to worry about wanting to implement it later 😔 asdpaosjdpo
But it can wait at least a couple hours. I don't want to look at Alex's example code for a while

[tacit wasp]

Nah i'd procrastinate

(Discord what the hell is this auto-correct suggestion)

[sage sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-gigachad-neuro-neuro-gigachad-neurochad-neuro-chad-gif-8063051158239057125

[cerulean jetty]

Creepy, but good.

[native chasm]

relatable fr

[rotund rampart]

is itch lagging for anyone again

[native chasm]

30 rates in, I think I'll go back and double-check if my ratings are fair enough

[native chasm]

yea

[warm gale]

Phew. Rated 20 games with our team today

258 left

⚰️

[native chasm]

oh btw we are over 10 average rating

plug so I won't be under average
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213344

[signal monolith]

plz rate my game scary man 😦
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211560

[warm gale]

Ok 👌

[sour horizon]

Just got back to rate some more entries
but I guess I have to fix bugs now

[native chasm]

I just reloaded page and it worked

[warm gale]

Holy, this game is so good! Tho i closed the tab two times already, when pressed ctrl and w together
It's huge for 3 days of work

[signal monolith]

thank you, also browsers hate me, I recommend the windows version if you are also a browser hater like me

[native chasm]

btw do stars just sum or what?

[tacit wasp]

I'd love to play the whole game but my laptop has a skill issue

[signal monolith]

It has also BLOOM 😎

[signal monolith]

??? What happened exactly?

[tacit wasp]

Nothing, the specs of the PC i'm using right now just aren't the best for gaming

[signal monolith]

that's weird, try out the no vulkan version, it worked at 400 fps on 20 year old pc that has trouble running firefox

[tacit wasp]

And when I'll put my hands back on a more powerful PC, the votes will unfortunately be closed which is part of why I hope we'll get an extension

[tacit wasp]

Got it

[lethal egret]

itch down. I was comenting on games...

[tacit wasp]

Oh yeah, right

[past meadow]

Top Rated means, number of ratings, not their quality, so it's quite common for popular games to be more rated

[warm gale]

Oh, there's a windows version! Going to try it

[signal monolith]

Yeah, BLOOM babe

[atomic stream]

i was about to start playing games (i was way too tired the first two days of voting lol) and this happens 😭

[signal monolith]

it will probably be fixed very quickly

yesterday itchio was also down for couple of minutes

[cunning inlet]

I still find this puzzle extremely funny cuz the way I programmed it is so stupid, but it just works

[native chasm]

why are some of them red?

[cunning inlet]

to prevent myself from going schizo and losing track of which trigger is which

[native chasm]

oh

[tacit wasp]

Damn

[waxen trail]

||I finished Anny and failed Mini, and I got a screen of Tutel thumbs up. What do I do ||

[signal monolith]

(in minecraft)

[tacit wasp]

You're right, it ran so much better
Unfortunately, hardware limitations still prevents me to play the game
Can't move without having to wait a few seconds to then fight, I need a mouse

[waxen trail]

Itch died once again? RIP

[sage sapphire]

damn, we really crashing itch on a daily

[signal monolith]

yeah, mouse isn't optional in my game, you would probably be hard locked trying to fight the final boss where you have to rotate fast and dodge at the same time

[tacit wasp]

I think I'm gonna invest in a gaming laptop for next game jam, the one I'm using right now is just outdated now

[tacit wasp]

I see
Won't be able to rate it then since I prefer to finish the games to do that but I'll play it on Sunday night maybe (or next week)

It looks cool and there's a "speedrun mode"

[signal monolith]

it only skips the tutorial and starting cutscene, I undercooked this mode a little

[tacit wasp]

Ah I thought it would add a timer or something lmao

[signal monolith]

that was the idea, but I got lazy and forgor to add the timer

and I had to fix some bloom related bugs

(don't turn on bloom on no vulkan or web version)

((you'll regret it))

[waxen trail]

Replayed this successfully and got the same screen oh well lmao

[warm gale]

It's so good! You did it all alone?

[signal monolith]

Yeah, I knew my tools pretty well and already had an idea for a cool, edgy game, where you play as evil

[warm gale]

I really like the style. It's simple but looks so good

Levels are cool

[signal monolith]

I've chosen it because I cant draw lol

[warm gale]

Tho camera can be a bit awkward when you next to a wall

but that's a small issue for a 3 days game

[signal monolith]

I know, it's a bit jank, but it didn't seem like a huge problem, it's at its worst when you going near the vedalai sign in the rooftop level

I'm aware of that

[past meadow]

Is Neuro Wars made by you?
(It has different name on itch)

[signal monolith]

@warm gale thank you very much for playing my game, I'm glad you liked it

[warm gale]

Found the best start against the boss. You can just run in one big circle and cut wires. Enemies can't usually hit you, and the only danger is the bullet wave from Neuro

[fringe star]

Yeps, it's a has no sounds cuz it's a solo project

[signal monolith]

It's the intended way, it's way too hard otherwise, it seems people figure it out pretty quickly

[fringe star]

Also I dunno how to make music

[native chasm]

Imagine if we get +10 on wheel rn and a new hypetrain

[warm gale]

Yeah, when i tried to fight enemies, i died 4 times

[signal monolith]

You get all the time in the world to experiment, it's impossible to die on the first phase

unless you fall down lol

[warm gale]

flip into the void

[waxen trail]

I went through the same thing tough as heck boss and enemies so just focus on pipes

[past meadow]

VERY impressive for a solo project, really enjoyed playing it (althought did not finish as we had so much games to play (which is another plus as there is a lot of content))
If there was a team size limit, I am sure it would be the strongest contender for the #1

[waxen trail]

By the way, it was made in Scratch

Right @fringe star ?

[fringe star]

Yep

[waxen trail]

I think Lusk should have put that on the game page, kinda insane ngl

[fringe star]

The thing was made on scratch

[tacit wasp]

I said it yesterday but some Scratch people are super good at using the engine for some reason

[tardy geyser]

definitely put it on your project page

[signal monolith]

@fringe star it's a little hard to tell which drones are yours, and it's kinda annoying you have to double click everything(at least I had to)

[fringe star]

Where I'm from scratch is seen as an inferior to the current engines, so for the most part I kinda don't tell anyone

[waxen trail]

It kind of is (considered that way) but because the game is so good you get the opposite effect

[warm gale]

@signal monolithbruh i can't rate it cause itch is lagging

[waxen trail]

Like "how did you make something so good with an engine that's considered bad? that's amazing!" thing

[warm gale]

Oh, finally it worked

[fringe star]

I'm currently recoloring the enemy to a different color scheme to make it easier, would take too long under jam conditions

[native chasm]

I literally got this at the last tile before god of time, why so late

[signal monolith]

what's this game btw? I want to play it

[fringe star]

Holy 138????

Sea of memories

[waxen trail]

I saw 180 once

[native chasm]

only 148 atk

[native chasm]

Sea of memories

[native chasm]

I got 200 yesterday

[waxen trail]

That's crazy

That's messed up

[native chasm]

here

[waxen trail]

Hold up I'm saving that screenshot

[native chasm]

I believe best strategy here is to take Eliv as captain, 2 Cumilq as crew, and just fight as many enemies as u can

[fringe star]

Yes

That's the best strat so far

But, I remembered something

There's a unit that gains attack when healed

I think it's 2 or 3 attack per heal

[native chasm]

yea but I think it's less cuz u get more encounters

[fringe star]

Well depends on rng

[native chasm]

I just got Vedal and Neuro in my team lol

[fringe star]

If I get a lot of healing islands, I might be able to stand equal to the evil cumila strat

[native chasm]

I think 3 was for taking damage?

[waxen trail]

Yeah that's Layna, if you team up with Layna / Anny and Neuro captain you do really well too

But you can win even with triple Vedal

[fringe star]

Don't remember, I just remember heal attack gain

[signal monolith]

quickly itch works, download something

before it stops

[fringe star]

Which vedals?

[native chasm]

Anny gains 2 hp when healed

and nuro heals 3 on event tiles

[fringe star]

Wait then who did I remember???

[waxen trail]

Layna who gains +1 ATK when healed

Or Numi which gains +3 ATK when damaged

[fringe star]

Layna that's the one

[native chasm]

yea I think u kinda combined Layna and Numi in your memories

[native chasm]

cuz +3 wasn't for healing

[fringe star]

But if it's just +1 it can't catch up to the evil twin camila strat

[native chasm]

tbh numi would be good for getting lots of dmg, but the problem is that u don't take damage if u oneshot enemy

so u don't really level up numi

[fringe star]

Yeah... not the best at memory

[native chasm]

but with camila u don't even need to fight

so when reaching the time god u can flee a few times for extra damage

[fringe star]

Dang

Just entering gives damage huh

[native chasm]

most damage gain but very inefficient due to the way to get it

[small radish]

lmao, really just gave numi the masochist trait huh

[native chasm]

eliv + 2 cumilq = 7 atk gain for entering fight

[waxen trail]

Yeah kinda defeats herself in a way

[native chasm]

got them in the middle of kraken stage but still managed to get 122

[native chasm]

how big is the map btw?

[waxen trail]

15x15 I think

[native chasm]

yea seems so

[native chasm]

and fog moves every 4 turns, right?

[waxen trail]

Yeah!

[native chasm]

also a question abt event, there is one with Imps where u gain atk if u have hellish crewmate to make them run

[waxen trail]

Yeah!

[native chasm]

how does it work if u have multiple crewmates like that?

[waxen trail]

Applies to all of them

[native chasm]

do they both gain it?

oh nice

ok so the best way to get dmg is 2 camila and a lot of these events

cuz u get +8 per one instead of +7 that u get with fights

[waxen trail]

Yeah, you can also do 2 cerbers

Maybe getting 2 attack per fight with fleeing is kinda broken though

[native chasm]

camila is better cuz then u can flee a few times on time god for extra

[waxen trail]

True !

[native chasm]

I think the max atk u can possibly get with perfect conditions is somewhere near 430

[waxen trail]

That would be actually crazy

[native chasm]

yeah u need to get 2 camilas at first 2 moves, then all tiles must be events with imps

[native chasm]

oh wow I actually got 2nd event like that in a row

[rotund rampart]

nono, what I meant there was about the just highlighting outliers, it was more in line of why some games like mine and a few others are top 5 rated, but not popular

the corelation is there

but that there's more to it

[rotund rampart]

oh I never picked this up

[rotund rampart]

this applies to layna, cerber and camila?

[waxen trail]

Just camila and cerber

[native chasm]

not pb sadly

[past meadow]

Rating is only available for people who published their own game, which leads to some games being popular with guests, and some with participants. Great example of the opposite case is Neuro64, it is top7 in popularity with only 5 ratings

[native chasm]

usually u can try to escape and suffer 2 dmg, but if u have camila/server, u can do "Nuh uh!"

[rotund rampart]

there's a whole conversation that lasts a few hours up there about this, the tldr is that popularity is impression proportion with views/plays

basically if you have alot of impressions and if the views/plays isn't proportional you actually drop in popularity

so for example, when I plugged it on reddit and got 2k new impressions, my popularity dropped by 3 ranks because people kept seeing the link and not playing cause its on the front page

and before neuro64, there was a treasure of the sands in top 5 popularity, after giving it a bunch of impressions,it dropped alot of ranks

so for outliers like neuro64, its more so that they have little impressions, and they have a good proportion with people who view/play to their total impressions. This data was analyzed through looking at about 10+ games analytics as data points and some experimentation with my own game

[native chasm]

after 2 camilas u can visit at most 53 tiles
if each of them is that event, u gain 424 damage, then +7 for entering fight with the time god and als base 2 from evil, total of 433 atk

and if u go only fights instead of only events (way less RNG but gives only +7 instead of +8), u can get total of 380 atk max

imagine time god's reaction to crew where each member can oneshot him and there are 3 of them

[rotund rampart]

putting this here so I can look for it easily later

[misty tree]

alright, time to actually decorate the intro area of my game

[hoary cargo]

I've been working at the main menu for close to two days now

[rotund rampart]

how's it going

[hoary cargo]

Looks decent, but Saving, Loading, Graphics setting is something I'm doing for the first time

[native chasm]

Fragments of Humanity is yours?

[hoary cargo]

Fragments of a Working Game more like

But yea

Making a full version, but before that 🇵🇱ing the Demo

[signal monolith]

BLOOM ❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍👍👍👍

[rotund rampart]

first time seeing the polish flag used like that haha

[hoary cargo]

Ah lens-flare option missing

[native chasm]

nice

[hoary cargo]

Only doing that cause I seeen it so often during the jam lol

[signal monolith]

itchio is struggling so hard today

[native chasm]

yea

[rotund rampart]

ikr

[hoary cargo]

Could be our fault honestly

Been like that since game jam submissions

Though I suppose at this time swarm traffic would've died down

[rotund rampart]

504, 504 everywhere

[waxen trail]

You have to 🇵🇱 the game before you 🇫🇮 it!!

[signal monolith]

this happens when you turn on bloom in the web version of my game(dont)

[rotund rampart]

you gotta Poland the game before you Finland it?

[hoary cargo]

Holy, so true

[waxen trail]

Before you finnish it

[rotund rampart]

haha

[hoary cargo]

By that logic I would Poland the game

[rotund rampart]

OH

[rotund rampart]

fixed

[hoary cargo]

Very bloomy

[signal monolith]

It's a godot bug, bloom is much stronger in web and opengl build than in vulkan build

[hoary cargo]

I made sure to keep everything somewhat reasonable, the lens flares might need some work tho, they get distracting

[hoary cargo]

Welp, every engine got its quirks

Would be boring otherwise xD

[signal monolith]

so I made super 2000 iq script that disables bloom on the web and opengl version, you can still enable it if you want though

for the true cinematic experience

[hoary cargo]

Gotta add black bears and those over the top multi-colored lensflares you see in movies

Black bars*

[fringe star]

Im gonna try adding saves, to my game, i hope it works

[past meadow]

Yeah, it might be close to how YT algorithm works, as your itch dashboard tracks impressions and CRT

[rotund rampart]

I think can basically rule out CRT, there were a bunch of projects with about 1% lower CRT above mine, and I increased my CRT by 0.8% with no effect to the popularity

[rotund rampart]

this is my data

[hoary cargo]

My game somehow ended up on the 2nd bottom row of popularity lol

[fringe star]

...

ITCH IS DOWN BABYYYYY

[rotund rampart]

its been consistently down

[fringe star]

wait was it down before?

[signal monolith]

I have to remind you about the best feature in my game(not a plug(trust me))

[hoary cargo]

All the time

[fringe star]

oh its back

[signal monolith]

yesterday, and today it goes in and out

[hoary cargo]

I thought you were holding a shotgun for a sec

[fringe star]

the swarm causing itch to lag

[rotund rampart]

oh I wanna plug mine too

[hoary cargo]

With those two circles at the bottom

[native chasm]

wait can u explain the "lower than median" thing

[fringe star]

...

[signal monolith]

you talking about this?

[fringe star]

TUTEL RANCHER BEAT VEDAL LESGOOOOO

[native chasm]

oh it's written at the page

[signal monolith]

at least one thing is right in the world

[hoary cargo]

This looked like a Doom-ish shotgun from first person perspective xD

At like the very first glance

[rotund rampart]

best feature

[signal monolith]

oh, right, those are pipes, but I see that

[native chasm]

plug so I don't be under median rating count
https://sergi0-o.itch.io/old-castle-gamejam

[hoary cargo]

Was only for a second, I am biased towards shooters

[signal monolith]

You have one too, lets go!

[hoary cargo]

Spinners

[rotund rampart]

mine can change costumes

[signal monolith]

You don't have a dedicated spin button 😦

[signal monolith]

I've seen that, I've played it, but not the spinning

[hoary cargo]

How do you get to that data page?

[native chasm]

if I had nuro I would make her spin but there is no nwero in my game

[native chasm]

https://itchanalytics.vercel.app/jam/neuro/3213344
change the id to your game tho

[signal monolith]

you should've added spinning neuro in the corner, game would be 1000000 times better

[hoary cargo]

Thx!

[rotund rampart]

there's this one quiz game that at the end, you can feed neuro a cookie

I fed her like a 100 cookies just for that nomnomnom

[hoary cargo]

Oof

[signal monolith]

MINUS KARMA?

how?

[hoary cargo]

Bottom 1% lets gooooooooooo

[rotund rampart]

I saw a few today

[hoary cargo]

Had no time to play until today

So it's rising slowly

[signal monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-3-karma-lost-you-lost-karma-evil-devil-gif-4805527646804962655

[native chasm]

vedal got like -2.4
u get negative if u rate less than someone rate you

[hoary cargo]

Yea, gotta put out more votes then you get

[rotund rampart]

I have 1.3 karma and I am rating less than I'm being rated atm

[hoary cargo]

Welp, maybe not then

[rotund rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1316090318726234122/1324465211318472806/image.png?ex=67783fd9&is=6776ee59&hm=9d0aa122ce5c9b2965223fef659284baa393867489a11a2422af98a044fdf4cf&

[hoary cargo]

The mechanisms behind itch.io are mysterious and enigmatic

[native chasm]

not sure how exactly it works but it's definetily from ratio of your votes and rating count

[signal monolith]

bruh, drop your common words

[native chasm]

It doesn't say "Don't worry, you still have a chance" anymore

but I dropped in popularity lmao

[hoary cargo]

It's a long way down to the 5% club

[hasty drift]

[atomic stream]

damn itch still down

[waxen trail]

I'll probably play and rate stuff in the morning and not in the evening rush hours I guess

[signal monolith]

feels bad man

[waxen trail]

Will itch go down again right when the jam rating period ends and the scores should be announced? place your bets

[atomic stream]

itch cant handle the neuro jam

i was worried about not having time to finish neuro integration before the end of the subathon... then i looked at the timer

yeahhh ill be fine

[hasty drift]

dinkdonk raise the timer

[signal monolith]

how does it even work with the neuro integration? Should I modify the build I've added on itch? Make a seperate build?

[atomic stream]

i think a separate build

[signal monolith]

how different can it be from the main game? Does it still have to be the same game? Different mode?

Before I know those things It's hard to start working on it

[unreal plinth]

Alex covered this before #2024-game-jam message
Basically Neuro SDK is outside of the game jam, do what you want

[atomic stream]

ah thats great, thats what i was thinking but wasnt sure lol

[rotund rampart]

wth you do

[signal monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-3-karma-lost-you-lost-karma-evil-devil-gif-4805527646804962655

[atomic stream]

where can we see this btw

when itch is back

[signal monolith]

https://itchanalytics.vercel.app/jam/neuro/3211560

swap id in url for yours

[atomic stream]

ah, thanks :3

[signal monolith]

nice

[native chasm]

Evil in Time is crazy tbh

in a good way I mean

like, crazy how good it is for a project that was made in 3 days

[signal monolith]

imagine having working website

itchio could never

omg, it works, they heard me

[native chasm]

and now it doesn't for me

[atomic stream]

oh looks like its kinda back?

very slow though

[hasty drift]

sometimes back

[signal monolith]

What if you wanted go to heaven, but the god said:

[native chasm]

I think this is how Limbo was made

[atomic stream]

lmao

[fringe star]

need to ask

does this look different enough?

[native chasm]

different from what?

[fringe star]

the 2 teams

from each other

[native chasm]

ohh u added circles cuz Vadul shot his unit?

[signal monolith]

circles help a lot

[waxen trail]

This looks good imo

[fringe star]

yes

[waxen trail]

I didn't struggle with the difference between them personally though

[native chasm]

yeah it is fine, but I'm a bit concerned about possibility of circles being hidden behind other units
like u can't see tutel's team in this case

might be fine for this level but can become a problem for others ig

[fringe star]

oh, i plan to make the colors for each team different

[signal monolith]

2 cool 4 u 😎

[pale iron]

Procrastinate

[fringe star]

neuro and enemy team neuro

something like this, was wondering if this is too little or too much

[misty tree]

im tryna turn this tutel sprite into a plush, any art advice to make it look more like one?

[unreal plinth]

Oh no, I'm dropping the ranks, my coolness is leaving me

[fringe star]

button eyes? maybe try adding stitch lines one the shell?
dunno not good at art

[waxen trail]

Bigger eyes and turn them into buttons

[misty tree]

this is how i imagine butotns looking but those look kinda crazy lol

[waxen trail]

Just do diagonal buttons

Like diagonal holes

Maybe

And maybe a smile for the mouth lol

[misty tree]

this way?

[waxen trail]

xdeeeeee

Too cute

[misty tree]

no holes looks like its gonna murder you XD

[waxen trail]

That could look like a living tutel though so maybe not

[misty tree]

hmmm yea true

[native chasm]

no holes looks like it's been murdered

[fringe star]

why not give the buttons shading?

[misty tree]

cuz idk how to shade things c:

[native chasm]

also this looks so cute

[fringe star]

i would like to ask permission to screenshot, shade the eyes and show it

[misty tree]

go for it

heres the image as is with the empty eyes lol

[fringe star]

does this look good?

[misty tree]

honestly tho the old eyes werent all that bad when its small

[misty tree]

hmmm

he looks a bit coked up to me

[waxen trail]

@misty tree

[fringe star]

maybe something like this?

[fringe star]

the white tag is a really good idea

[waxen trail]

I think something like that or loose string can make it look less like an actual character and more like a plush

[fringe star]

yep

[misty tree]

did i do it right

[fringe star]

nice

also neuro looks so cute

[misty tree]

c: ty

i got a great artist for that

^ everybody hes drawn is up here

[civic fractal]

You can do it itch, you can run

[waxen trail]

Maybe :D I made this too

The dithered lines give it a softer feel

[misty tree]

before and after for comparison

oh wait yours is happy lol i knew somethng was still different xD

[native chasm]

not mine but gonna plug this cuz it's very underrated
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213188

[native chasm]

oh it's for A Bandoned Rchive :O

[misty tree]

yea haha the starting room was something i didnt get around to decorating cuz artist was busy

[native chasm]

why there is no embed?

[misty tree]

and im far too slow to make stuff as u can probably tell xd cuz im not an artist

[fringe star]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213188

[native chasm]

weird

[feral glade]

is it alright to ask for a review here? i will rate your game too if you rate mine

[old adder]

f to progress dialogue is kinda weird btw, at least for someone who's played vns. space and click are the common ones

[misty tree]

space technically worked even tho it wasnt listed haha

ive since made click work

and tossed space for now since it wasnt labeled

[signal monolith]

we all plug our games, it's fine

just link your game

[fringe star]

agreed

[feral glade]

ok, then https://k0mat.itch.io/at-what-cost-remna, i will reciprocate a review/rating

[signal monolith]

Oh, I've already played it and reviewed it

[feral glade]

i already have some games queued for a review, just waiting for right time

[tardy geyser]

@signal monolith , i'll link it for you

https://jaceideu.itch.io/crazy-robot-body-blast-from-the-past

btw don't post images of automod blocks, that's against the rules

[signal monolith]

sorry, wrong link

you know why my link to the game is blocked now?

[tardy geyser]

yours got blocked because automod thought it was spam

[signal monolith]

why, I've send it before without any issues

[lament monolith]

Yeah that's the point

[signal monolith]

and some people send their links more often

[tardy geyser]

i don't know! it sometimes does that

[signal monolith]

bruh

[tardy geyser]

we didn't adjust any settings, so it's not what we've done explicitly

[signal monolith]

discord hates me 😦

gonna test one more link if it's fine

[tardy geyser]

[signal monolith]

i wont send if not

[tardy geyser]

go ahead!

[signal monolith]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211560

this one's good

ok

[tardy geyser]

. enjoy

[signal monolith]

so the title of my game has some no no words xd

and this link is ok because it doesn't have the game's title in it

[atomic stream]

when itch io came back a transformer blew out in the street

the universe is conspiring against me playing these games

😭

[misty tree]

my mouse keeps going to my second monitor while playing or hitting other edgse of screen just make me unable to pan further in that direction

[signal monolith]

why are you using mouse in this game?

[feral glade]

but there is no mouse control in my game

[misty tree]

wait

wrong game oops

i clicked on yours jace XD

well, uh, same problem but for jace then

[feral glade]

lul

[signal monolith]

either press the escape button, then resume, or download the windows version which won't have that problem

windows version is the best one

[lament monolith]

I've got some of my fighting spirit back, finally. First comment I got on my game was 3 paragraphs of everything I did wrong, and that kinda reconstructed my entire world view.

Now, question: ResourceLoader.load_threaded_request(...), in Godot, does it load resources listed where, exactly?

[signal monolith]

which one is yours?

[lament monolith]

I can't exactly tell what resources it is loading, mainly because I load them in a single frame, so I don't know if it's loading nothing at all, or if it's only loading a few select resources

[native chasm]

have anyone finished "Have a nice death"?

I don't understand what I have to give those ghosts

[signal monolith]

probably like normal load it accepts a path that starts with user or res for example "res://scenes/level actors/bread.tscn" will load bread scene from your project, exe, or pck file

if you exported it, all assets will be in either pck file or exe if you picked embed pck

[lament monolith]

Yes, but if that scene has sub-nodes with resources attached to them?

[signal monolith]

as far as I know, it will load everything, children included along with their resources

[lament monolith]

I load it in a single frame, straight to 100%, so no clue...

And I've got a bunch of 3D models and materials in there

[native chasm]

ghost: "I'm going to war, give me your strongest drink"
me: giving literally pure strength for fighters
ghost: saying it's not good enough

[signal monolith]

here;s a tutorial for that https://docs.godotengine.org/cs/4.x/tutorials/io/background_loading.html

you have to use "load_threaded_get" the get the requested resource

so this code

results in this

but I normally dont bother with this and just use preload

seems simpler

[hasty drift]

Bread

[tame rapids]

Bread

[signal monolith]

bread from the hit game

(actual result of this code)

[hasty drift]

yum 1 hp

[signal monolith]

bruh, I have so much global garbage

[misty tree]

im a little trash at your game jace lmao

i think one thing that could help is some kind of indication that the small enemies are about to shoot, or something to react to

most of the health i lost was to enemies shooting me point blank

which i have to go up to them to hit them

[signal monolith]

they have a shoot animation which they perform before shooting but it's not super obvious

[lament monolith]

I got the load working, thanks

It's a bit weird but it does work out

[hasty drift]

less than me

[lament monolith]

By the way

ChatGPT hallucinates Godot code

it's so sad

[signal monolith]

it often shits out godot 3.0 code which is often incompatible with godot 4

[misty tree]

oh wait i see why i didnt catch that. they do that animation even if im too far away to shoot. so it just registered in my mind as an idle animation and i didnt think about if it was timed with the shots

[feral glade]

i find godot much easier and user-friendly than unity or ue, in these i give up when trying to make a game

[signal monolith]

yeah, they have a bit of jank in their programming, so they still animate as if they should shoot, even if they dont

I see how this can be very confusing

[signal monolith]

I just like that it doesn't take 1000 hours when you move one file(it might corrupt the scene though, but that's a price I'm willing to pay)

btw

[hasty drift]

i see, your engine is polished

[feral glade]

i think that if you want to start making a game for a very first time you should start with godot, maybe later switch to ue5 or unity, if you need more feature rich engine

[misty tree]

i like gamemaker c:

[signal monolith]

I've tried it when I was a kid, it probably changed a lot since then

[misty tree]

quite a bit yea

frankly at this point its most bogged down by its horribly generic name haha

[hasty drift]

rpgmaker, now thats an engine

[feral glade]

i was thinking about using it for this jam, but i just hate rpg maker games, so i've decided not to

was never a fan of final fantasy style games

[hasty drift]

there are good and bad ones. since it is very accessible, easy for many to make (bad) ones

[native chasm]

finally went through all these 30 games and updated ratings

I'm surprised those game have so little rates
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213188
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211751
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213355

[jagged iron]

Eh, why start with godot if you can use good game engines like unity

[rotund rampart]

finally some guy who yearns for more of my game

[native chasm]

I got a comment from them too :O
also it'd be nice if u made gameplay for court lol

[rotund rampart]

ignore the words, the artist just slammed the keyboard cause he was too sleepy when making this, but there was plans for a mini game in the court door

[fringe star]

DANGIT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN COOL

[rotund rampart]

this is as much as you're getting haha, I MIGHT complete it if I have the time

there's quite a few cutscenes for this mini game

[native chasm]

lmao

made a list of games to rate tmr, maybe I'll do more

currently at 30/275 which isn't much honestly

[fringe star]

holy thos teams are massive

[native chasm]

Whyy are names at the bottom I thought I fixed it

[native chasm]

Yeah

[rotund rampart]

there's quite a few projects with 8-15 people

[fringe star]

GOD DAMN

[native chasm]

Someone's got to gift 15 lava lamps o7

[native chasm]

Btw, since I made a table I can see what are my highest and lowest rates
So far I got 2 games with 23/25 stars as best ones and 2 submissions with 7/25 as worst ones

[rotund rampart]

what do you mean highest/lowest rate

oh, as in what you rate?

[native chasm]

Yea

Like how many ★ total I gave

[signal monolith]

bruh, game is running at 1 frame per minute

help

[rotund rampart]

what game

[native chasm]

Oh yea I had that problem too

[native chasm]

Remnants of Humanity

[signal monolith]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213188

this one

I had to wait 5555 hours between frames

so I filled all tiles with turrets

and now it's 10 times slower

help

[tardy geyser]

chat this is your fault

(jk)

[civic fractal]

well, at least it got played

[tame rapids]

i can take full responsibility, it was funny as hell

[tardy geyser]

the moment on stream is really funny, yeah

[tame rapids]

completly worth it

[hasty drift]

its vedals fault for using filtered, there were other options

[civic fractal]

Same as every other chatter who posted it in here SMH

[lavish escarp]

R they playing game jam games again

[hasty drift]

nope

[signal monolith]

nah

[civic fractal]

not after turtle rancher om

[signal monolith]

detroit become human - which is a cool game

[hasty drift]

koko just barged into the stream to scream at vedal for a second bc she saw the clip

[lavish escarp]

Lmfao

[native chasm]

What did I miss???

[fringe star]

which clip?

sorry ping

[waxen trail]

Of filtered turtle being on top of koko's turtle in turtle rancher game

[lavish escarp]

Tutel breeding

[native chasm]

Ask NASA if they have a spare PC

[waxen trail]

Ngl I can't blame her for being kinda shocked, idk how tf I'd react

Also idk how Vedal should've handled it though maybe there were better ways lol

[lavish escarp]

Dying laughing

[fringe star]

LOOL

[hasty drift]

the clip where vedal played turtle rancher and chose the first parent turtles, one of them being koko tutel

[civic fractal]

@placid salmon Congrats on your game being played

[lavish escarp]

The other being v*dolf

[hasty drift]

clipped game of the year

[lavish escarp]

Honestly tho being able to choose the position is such a fun gameplay mechanic

[placid salmon]

It was the best clips, thanks to that I'm second in popularity now

[native chasm]

Especially with what comes next

[placid salmon]

I wasn't there to see that

[hasty drift]

well, there will be clips or watch the vod

[rotund rampart]

oh no vedal overtook me in rates again

[native chasm]

U can go to videos on the channel and find it

[rotund rampart]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213059
Self-plug

[lethal egret]

Had to skip this one. Is simply way too hard. Good job on it's creation

[rotund rampart]

I really like the art style for this one haha

its super cute

[native chasm]

Self plug cuz I just went from 105th to 106th place
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213344

[rotund rampart]

don't think I've seen you around past couple days, you got a game to plug?

[feral glade]

i will rate you tomorrow or during the weekend, already downloaded

[native chasm]

Wow u r 2nd place so far

[lethal egret]

Unfortunately, i chickened out on the middle of making the game. But i promised to play and comment on every single one of the submissions and that's what i'm doing

[native chasm]

Oh, thx

[rotund rampart]

no vedal just overtook me again

[lavish escarp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1316090318726234122/1324192347604390061/image.png?ex=6777ea79&is=677698f9&hm=c4b9aa1a4aeed5f591b129d2331b190d6da330d39dfa7f16dc265bc1f36016cd&

[rotund rampart]

play mine

[lavish escarp]

this moment living rent free in my head

[civic fractal]

[lethal egret]

I will. I'm going truh submision order so I make sure I don't skip anyone

[lapis meadow]

"ultimately sfw" true, but not safe for neuro. We need a new content rating

[lethal egret]

I'll comment on your games once I've finished playing them