2024-game-jam

[lavish escarp]

lmfao

[broken bolt]

I'm sure they are very happy with their investment

[lethal egret]

There's so much games to play. I only managed to play 31 of all the games. (I'm going on submission order so i'm pretty sure to play them all one day)

[lavish escarp]

they have paid so much to neuro

[native chasm]

Investing over $100k into Tutel, for sure

[native chasm]

I've played and rated like only 21 so far

Plug so we stay on topic of this channel
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213344

[hollow compass]

Here's my game then. https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213244

[signal monolith]

woah, itch io app is so cool

[quick badger]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212492 plug time

[charred hamlet]

Shameless plug then
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213034

[lavish escarp]

someone say plug? https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830

[signal monolith]

is it this time already? Ok
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211560

[sour horizon]

Just got back to rate some more entries
and I love this art

[signal monolith]

Why every godot game packed in a zip is detected as a virus

windows defender

do better

[lavish escarp]

no, its just doing its job

unsigned executables

all it takes is one degen to fuck ur pc up

[signal monolith]

job of annoying the fuck out of me

[lavish escarp]

use itch.io sandbox

[signal monolith]

itch io doesn't detect the game as compatible so I cant

[lavish escarp]

rip

[signal monolith]

because it's in a zip

[lavish escarp]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[waxen trail]

@rotund rampart ping for your team's "Cute gremlin" art

[lavish escarp]

convenience and security hate each other

[signal monolith]

I think it's fine, two noname shit antiviruses only detect it

[native chasm]

Oh I played that one

I got 147 damage in Sea of Memories

[lavish escarp]

oop

[topaz turret]

please rate the visual 🥺👉👈

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212715

[signal monolith]

I've played it already

[native chasm]

Omg I got 200

[signal monolith]

visuals are probably the highlight of this game, they are really cool and dark

[native chasm]

It's like twice amount of health that the time god has

[signal monolith]

but there's not much of game to speak of besides them

[violet surge]

GAME JAM TIME?

[tame rapids]

pog

[misty seal]

it’s time

[lusty falcon]

Do you think they'll play them again? I haven't implemented the API yet I didn't know it would be so soon

[sour horizon]

here we go!

[violet surge]

[sour horizon]

any 1 AM gang here?

[signal monolith]

they wont play mine 😦

[native finch]

I hope they play mine
probably won't tho definitely won't since its not a browser game

[tacit wasp]

Hi

[tame rapids]

only browser games

[violet surge]

yeah web games it is for now

[tame rapids]

[lusty falcon]

THERE'S MINE

[signal monolith]

mine is a web game but... they won't play it 😦

[tardy geyser]

[violet surge]

only the top ones probably

[quick badger]

aw man ranked by popular... Mine wont make it I think

[native chasm]

I hope they won't play mine cuz it's trash lmao

[tame rapids]

Abandoned Pub is being played dink donk

[violet surge]

I love yours, very satisfying to play

[plucky prawn]

up on play

[lusty falcon]

Thank you

[tacit wasp]

I don't know if I should watch Vedal play games or don't so I can play the games myself first

[native chasm]

Oh only browser games

I'm safe then

[signal monolith]

which one is yours again?

[misty seal]

oh snap vedal is turning on neuros vision

[native chasm]

Mine?

[tacit wasp]

I am not safe
Worst case is that my web build don't have an error screen which is not very practical
At least he rated it by popular so I should be fine for now

[tardy geyser]

yeah, the prospect of a game played on vedal's stream is slightly scary isn't it

it's fine, he'll be nice! i think...

[hoary cargo]

So glad mine's far down in popularity

[plucky prawn]

"She is Pirating" hell nawh got some balls

[hoary cargo]

Never thought I say that

[signal monolith]

it's scary

it would be very cool

but my game isn't event top 10

so I doubt it

[lavish escarp]

POG POG ABANDONED PUB

[violet surge]

I'm actually fine with him playing ours
it's an honor

[old adder]

its happening

[signal monolith]

I would really really like for them to play mine

I would be very happy

[lavish escarp]

same

[violet surge]

love the story on this

[tardy geyser]

it's ok chat, if he's mean i'll send a very strongly worded message to the staff chat

[slate mist]

wooo

neuro and vedal playing the game

[signal monolith]

I've actually avoided playing the most popular games cause I would feel bad they are so much better than mine 😦

[slate mist]

time has come

[native chasm]

Old Castle

[umbral adder]

You have unlocked new role

[lavish escarp]

ping the devs

dont let em miss it

[pulsar stag]

someone said my game was pretty cute and they liked the vedal model
they also mentioned it was a bit confusing to execute the game first, wish i had time to turn into an executable

[signal monolith]

Oh, I've played this one, it's a bit weird you have music muted by default in a rythm game lol

[lavish escarp]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[plucky prawn]

D:

[tacit wasp]

Neuro going for the jaw

[earnest wind]

Dayum

[misty seal]

NOO NEURO

[winged jay]

What if Neuro is mean

[violet surge]

you'll have to do that to neuro instead

[tame rapids]

nooo

[signal monolith]

damn

she's brutal

[tardy geyser]

erm

[earnest wind]

Cant wait for Neuro to roast my game too

[signal monolith]

even I'm not as brutal

[tardy geyser]

i'm sorry i love neuro too much...

[lavish escarp]

immediately gets insulted

[tacit wasp]

I'd be more surprised if Neuro is nice to my game tbh

[lavish escarp]

thats her default

[signal monolith]

I'd be surprised if they played my game

[native chasm]

Oh, I just didn't want someone to hear loud music at start
Actually it should've been at 5% by default but Ig I did something wrong

[earnest wind]

Neuro-oujo-sama

[tame rapids]

well, it's also 1 AM for me and it's time for me to go , hope your games get played today!

[native chasm]

?

[signal monolith]

I was confused af at the beginning, game is fine, a bit frustrating that you start over every time you die

[lavish escarp]

for abandoned pub lol it'd be nice for them to see their game get played

[lusty falcon]

This game looks amazing well done

[native chasm]

Yeah if I had more time I would add checkpoints for sure

Restarting the scene was just easiest solution lol

[lavish escarp]

i may have made my game too difficult for vedal

seeing him play abandoned pub

[tacit wasp]

I may have also made my game too difficult for vedal
And it's just clicking on icons

[signal monolith]

I don't think we should add game journalist difficulty to every game

[warped forge]

The instant a recipe comes up that isn't banana rum he's stuck.

[lavish escarp]

were so fucked

[signal monolith]

@pseudo lodge @past meadow @hot sandal @warm gale @lilac robin @frosty dune @stoic loom your game is being played on stream if you dont know already

[lavish escarp]

there we go

[past meadow]

Yeah, I am watching him play

[hasty drift]

i wonder if mybraza is watching

[lavish escarp]

probably not

[warm gale]

wathcing 👀

[signal monolith]

ur scary

wtf

[manic marten]

yeah, we relied on a person who end up doing nothing instead of actual gameplay, so i end up coding it all last day

[native chasm]

I know that I'm not good with difficulty balancing, so I added assist setting in case people need it

[limpid osprey]

Your guys art is very cute and adorable :D

[native chasm]

Like slowing down the game or even turning off damage

[warm gale]

don't be scared, i'm your friend

[signal monolith]

dont hurt me plz

[lavish escarp]

i like how people read hellish dogs and assumed cerber

[nimble dew]

Not sure if I even want to see my game getting played... The gameplay is such a not really designed mess and there is no story...

[manic marten]

well the coolest thing in our game imo that it has small visual novel engine (that is on verge of breaking but anyway) that i spent majority of time coding, and you can actually run mini novel scripts using the console system in the engine

[signal monolith]

Am I the only one that wants their game played?

Im pretty happy with it

[winged jay]

I assume he will go 1, 2, 4, 5, 6 etc

[plucky prawn]

i don't really know a lot about 2d games since i focuses on 3d. But the arts and atmosphere fits perfectly with the theme. This goin all out

[signal monolith]

if you sort by ones only played in browser, my game is 20th

so not a high chance of being played

[nimble dew]

Oh he goes from the top rated ones?

[lavish escarp]

HAHAHA

[nimble dew]

bruh 😄

[signal monolith]

maybe he'll change it up a bit, let's have hope

maybe for example "most karma" wink wink

[nimble dew]

In was refering to Neuro just now in the stream

[signal monolith]

mb

[native chasm]

I'm not happy with my game at all

[lavish escarp]

god its wild to see the chat not know anything about the games tho

[nimble dew]

What is he sorting by?

[lavish escarp]

very cool

[signal monolith]

by popular

for now

and only web ones

[native chasm]

The only part I like is boss theme and the fact that it works

[nimble dew]

Mine seems to be low in every category anyway, welp

[native chasm]

And the fact that you can play and beat it

[misty seal]

Well vedal does have 274 hours to get through

[signal monolith]

plug it. i'll play it

[signal monolith]

almost an hour for every game, ez

[earnest wind]

Yeah dont be shy to plug your game, Rolling girl has been pluging it 30 times

[signal monolith]

I've plugged mine like 10 times already

cause it works

lol

@nimble dew fine, i'll find it myself

[lavish escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-trial-crazy-evil-ill-fucking-do-it-again-gif-17111514

(shameless plug) https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830

[nimble dew]

🙄 https://acurna.itch.io/evelin-from-the-past
So as I'm writing there the gameplay is not well designed but the graphics are kinda decent I guess. Spent like 12 hours oh those particle effects.

[tacit wasp]

God the stream just stopped working again for me
I really think the Hype Train thing has caused permanent damage to my Twitch app

[nimble dew]

I was eating, had to find it and wanted to write a bit first 😅 Had a weird tasting egg 👀

[native chasm]

What's that btw

[signal monolith]

Ok, weird eggs are very important, true

[tacit wasp]

You can send images now

[native chasm]

Oh wait, I actually can :0

[nimble dew]

Today I spend like multiple hours thinking about making such a combat system in better and might have a good idea now. Might use that in another game project. Hm.

[tacit wasp]

Evil looks cool

[nimble dew]

What's that one called btw? I sea (haha) it a lot here

[tacit wasp]

Oh, Kayori, not Evil

[tacit wasp]

Sea of Memories

[native chasm]

The one I've sent? Sea of Memories

https://superobot1.itch.io/sea-of-memories

[lavish escarp]

o.o

[signal monolith]

@nimble dew honestly your game is pretty fun, and these particles are really pretty

[tacit wasp]

Playing Abandoned Pub at the same time, it is quite a fun game

[nimble dew]

I think it has like a recognizable, potentially interesting basic idea but, well, not fleshed out because no time for careful planing and extensive testing and balancing.

Do most not know that the "Made with Unity" splash screen can be deactivated now? Or are you using older Unity versions?

[signal monolith]

Im using godot

ez

[nimble dew]

Another game made not with 4k screens in mind 😄 Mine falls a bit apart with other aspect ratios... Also again the same UI theme that I also used. Saw that one in multiple game jam games already.

[tacit wasp]

I wouldn't be surprised if most people still don't want to use Unity 6 due to what happened a few months back

[merry lava]

Going to ask if people can try out the game my group made and rate it
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213335

[hasty drift]

dunno how the popular rating works. even though there are a few ratings, the popularity is low. because its not liked or because people dont play for long? 🤔

[earnest wind]

My guess would be that its based on play count

[lavish escarp]

aware

[earnest wind]

or view count

[nimble dew]

The weird optional license that was long abandoned and a bunch of people fired? Seems so over to me...

[tacit wasp]

Okay so I'm playing Abandoned Pug, I served the 7 drinks of the first day and nothing is happening, am I stupid or?

[tacit wasp]

Breaking trust is surprisingly easy, rebuilding it is very hard if not impossible sometimes

[nimble dew]

No cold fish now I guess 👀
This is an interesting game idea. Is it inspired by something?

[signal monolith]

also it wasn't optional, they backpedaled after the backlash

[unreal plinth]

That's Unity 6 though, and the Neuro SDK was designed for Unity 2022.3, so people might've just gone for that version. At least that's what I did.

[nimble dew]

🥳 I won

[misty tree]

had to do some codin for a bit, hows game jam games goin

is he still in pub?

[unreal plinth]

yup

[misty tree]

it is a pretty long game i suppose

[lavish escarp]

it is yeah

[tacit wasp]

I tried playing the game too but I think I softlocked myself, awesome

[lavish escarp]

hes on the last day

[hoary cargo]

Glad he takes the time to finish them tho

[nimble dew]

I'm a bit curious how some of those games would look like on an 8k screen 👀 😄 I could test that...

[hoary cargo]

Anyhting above 1080px and my original build (that I submitted) implodes it's UI

[misty tree]

has he said anything interesting bout this one so far?

also any idea if hes doing browsers specific again?

[tacit wasp]

Yeah I think he's doing web games only?

[hasty drift]

he is only doing browser and sorts by popular

[misty tree]

ah boo, oh well

[hoary cargo]

Well he has a lot of time left

[signal monolith]

he's doing browser games only because he doesn't want to setup vm rn

[misty tree]

yea its understandable

[hoary cargo]

I suppose downloading them live on stream would be lowkey insane

[signal monolith]

this music is driving me insane btw

[nimble dew]

I'm using this Itch.io app with the sandbox feature. Works well for most games.

[edgy viper]

He said something about VM, so maybe he'll play non-web games on there later on

[signal monolith]

he should play all of them smh

he has the time lol

(I know it would be bad content)

[edgy viper]

there's over 250 of them - don't think he will be able to do that

[quick badger]

The turtle breeding simulator needs to get more popular so he plays it x)

[signal monolith]

isn't it popular?

it's literally 4th

in browser ones

[quick badger]

Oh yeah missed it

I'm blind

[misty seal]

Omg

he could get to the turtle ranch pretty soon

[quick badger]

prob gonna be the 3rd one he plays since n°3 is his own

[native chasm]

Most of games aren't very long and he's got 274 hours left

[signal monolith]

espiecially because he'll skip his own submission

[signal monolith]

mine is like 5-10 min

[native chasm]

Mb, at least 274 hours

[native chasm]

Mine is like 2-20+ mins depending on how much u die

[quick badger]

I almost want to speedrun the top popularity game just so I can rate them before he spoils them x) I couldalso stop watching the stream buuuut x)

[signal monolith]

somebody made a 1:30 min speedrun of mine

[native chasm]

Oh wow

[quick badger]

Tbf he is streaming them so he'll take longer than the average player

[native chasm]

Honestly I'd love to see speedrun of my game

[slender cosmos]

Anyone know what the other endings are?

Uaa ok

[signal monolith]

vedal's game better lol

(not)

[quick badger]

I honestly think this game is gonna win

it's crazy good

[signal monolith]

neuro is such a hater omg

[molten shadow]

vedals game is not only not that fun to play it isnt even on theme

[signal monolith]

you're a bigger hater than neuro

but I agree

[hasty drift]

theme: background

[violet surge]

[molten shadow]

what does that even mean

[molten shadow]

his game last year was good idk why he dropped the ball hard

[misty tree]

maybe he just spent more time subathoning and less working on it

[azure light]

What was his game last year?

[misty tree]

or he went for something more complex than last time

[azure light]

He didn't really spend much time on it.

[void parcel]

hes already said he just was putting more focus on the stream this time around, its not that he dropped the ball, its that making a good game was never his intention to begin with

[misty tree]

also didnt some rule affect his "excessive use of AI" or whatever lol

[native chasm]

Yea true

[void parcel]

i mean, the rule was only against excessive ai use. he could still have used copilot if he just did it sparingly

[misty tree]

oh i just rmembered didnt he read his own comments earlier xD i need to see if he read mine

i accidentally told him that itd be confusing for vedal to play, not knowing it was vedals submission and i need to know if he read that LOL

[void parcel]

i dont think he did

[native chasm]

Honestly even though I really dislike what I've made I feel like I did a better job than Vadul lol

[foggy hearth]

If anyone has a few minutes, I'd appreciate if you tried out my game: https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212030
I'm curious if I messed up the packaging or not - I'm pretty sure I did it right, but a review said that they needed to install NodeJS

[proud smelt]

Awww sadge, we only have a download exe version of our game
Cant we add a webgl one now? 😦

[misty tree]

oh good he skipped over mine heh

[proud smelt]

He isnt playing them in order, i think 😛

[misty tree]

no not that

[misty tree]

he skipped over this when reading his comments^

[native chasm]

I think it might also be cuz he added Neuro there?

[past meadow]

Thank god the game didn't break

[nimble dew]

Oof just played the Memories of the Sea game in 8K on a virtual screen in VR. My other two screens are 4k and FullHD, they look ridiculously small in the windows settings compared to that 8k monster.
The game was using 50% of my RTX 4080 👀
Oh the screenshot is rather cut off. Welp. The UI is not looking good 😄

[proud smelt]

ohhhhh 😛

[native chasm]

Wait, did Alex actually get level 120 hypetrain

[proud smelt]

Im sure he assumed you were joking

[misty tree]

yea of course he did c:

[warped forge]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[old adder]

man vedal is a professional staller fr fr

[waxen trail]

Sorry I'm mining crypto off your rig hope you don't mind

[proud smelt]

Can i ask Alex if its to let to add a webgl version of our game? 😦

[waxen trail]

Kidding xdd but it's probably due to massive screen size

[royal jewel]

Interesting bundling method
I think my bundler could have potentially worked better, and would have been of comparable size with the SMOL version
And you could have also used the environment variable method for the Neuro API address with that one
And it would automatically open the game when you run the startup script
You would just have had to make separate JVM bundles for the other platforms with that one

[misty tree]

ayy hes booting up sandbox, maybe he wont skip windowed ones 👀

[torpid bridge]

Ok so who HAS NOT played Memory Lane yet?

[azure light]

not me.

[torpid bridge]

Blesses you with https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212555

[native chasm]

I think I haven't yet

[nimble dew]

Yeah some just crash or can't even display such resolutions 😄 Literally can't even.

[foggy hearth]

I used a file instead of env variables because I read somewhere (either the Game Jam page or the API Docs) that a config file is prefered

[waxen trail]

The UI scaling is my bad but it is what it is with 72hour jam

[nimble dew]

Yeah I also realized two hours before the end that other aspect ratios are not that great... Welp

[tacit wasp]

Wait is he about to play Vedal's Secret?

[nimble dew]

I used this "scale relative to 800x600 resolution" feature from Unity which seems nice.

[tacit wasp]

No wait, that's not Alex's game
Why did I get stuck on that

[native chasm]

I was trying to build my game with proper aspect ratio for like 15 mins lol

[royal jewel]

I'm pretty sure environment variables would have been easier for Vedal since he would have it set up with the environment variables
Either way, as long as it works I guess
Just mentioning that my bundler could have probably worked about as well or better (and also would have conveniently automatically opened the game on starting the bundler)

[waxen trail]

I should've done it too, oh well though

Maybe next time!

[azure light]

I'll try it.

[nimble dew]

Can't vedal just use this sandboxing feature from the Itch.io app? Or is that not that super secure?

[warped forge]

I assume he just doesn't know about it.

[void parcel]

its not as secure as a vm thats for sure

[nimble dew]

I got a headache from using that lagging 8k screen in VR... My computer was choking so hard...

[native chasm]

Not enough when dealing with Alex

I kinda want to see him play more games but at the same time it's 3:22 AM and I start to feel a bit sleepy and he's not doing anything

[nimble dew]

Same but an hour earlier here, still tired 👀

[viscid fable]

I've not slept and it's 9am

[waxen trail]

I went to sleep and woke back up because I remembered there's no fullscreen option for my game and that might cause an issue for Vedal if he plays it

For webGL I mean - oh well, will fix that next jam worst case

[nimble dew]

Oh I had an odd issue with the normal Unity fullscreen mode: It wasn't changing the aspect ratio properly and had black bars because it just kept the old aspect ratio from window mode 👀

[waxen trail]

I wonder if that's an issue with new Unity

[nimble dew]

Maximized Window worked and was good enough since I had no time to investigate much

[waxen trail]

Because I think when I used Unity 2018 I didn't have that (in my previous jam entry)

Oh actually nvm

Had a different thing lol

[nimble dew]

It worked with Alt+Enter but not with that Screen.Fullscreen=true; or whatever it was

[tacit wasp]

Powershell scripts? What the hell is Alex's game forcing Vedal to do?

[waxen trail]

The code: if(Vedal){Nuke.Activate();}

[native chasm]

Downloading Trojans

[viscid fable]

no vedal went ahead and ran a random PowerShell on his vm

just to get sandbox to work as expected

that's what Alex was referring to

[old adder]

can he do this already https://itch.io/docs/itch/using/sandbox/windows.html

[native chasm]

Evil's Menace gonna become a real event soon...

Or some other game with similar plot

[lavish escarp]

LMFAO

vrc launcher malware

[native chasm]

How many games do we have about either of Neuros going full destruction mode?

[tacit wasp]

True Neuro

[native chasm]

Vrc stream launcher

[waxen trail]

Next year's games: Alex going full destruction mode

[tacit wasp]

"Very Safe Game for Vedal" by Alex

[lavish escarp]

THIS IS WHY I TELL PEOPLE TO USE SANDBOX MODE OR VM

THIS IS WHY

[waxen trail]

Holy shit Alex is insane for that

5D chess

[lavish escarp]

REEEEE

[tacit wasp]

Holy shit

[quick badger]

let's gooo

[waxen trail]

@dusky grotto Vedal playing your game

Assuming it's the right ping

[lusty falcon]

ok the art on this one is incredible well done

More customisation than most AAA titles

[waxen trail]

Lisa's submission last year was goated too

[tardy geyser]

it's really creative, i spent too much time playing it

art is cute

[signal monolith]

is tutel rancher gonna be next lol?

[lavish escarp]

tUtel rancher

i cant wait

[native chasm]

The year was 2028, Neuro's 5th gamejam. Vedal launched another malware from Alex expecting it to launch vrc as always. Little that he knows, that malware would take control over Neuro and go full destruction mode. 2 years later, humanity was completely under her control. Remnants of the past VTubers have team up to save the world , but more importantly, save Neuro from the virus...

[lavish escarp]

someone warn vedal btw before they get v*dolf on stream

[hasty drift]

oh no

[placid salmon]

My time to shine

[lavish escarp]

i would love to see that but 30 day vacation MID SUBATHON IS BAD

[native chasm]

Tutel rancher was pretty cool

[lavish escarp]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

LMFAO

were so fucked

WERE SO FUCKED

[violet surge]

I didn't play it yet

what is it about..?

[waxen trail]

Oh no... oh no... I remembered what this game has

lmao

[lavish escarp]

BANNED MID HYPETRAIN

[pale iron]

Hopefully the game doesn’t get deleted before I get back

[lavish escarp]

do we tell vedal? or do we just let it happen

what's twitch's policy on tutel facism

[waxen trail]

I feel like morally we have to tell him

But also

[violet surge]

shouldn't we ping mods first?

[waxen trail]

I'm too scared to ping here or on twitch

Since it's against rules

On discord at least

[tacit wasp]

Oh wait, I didn't realize we were on this game already

[tardy geyser]

hi which game is this

[waxen trail]

This game has a Vedulf

[lavish escarp]

tutel rancher

[signal monolith]

tutel rancher

[hasty drift]

tutel breeding time

[signal monolith]

cursed af

[old adder]

[waxen trail]

It's very funny though lmao

[tacit wasp]

Funny but cursed

[signal monolith]

I loved it, it's so cursed but also very fun

[waxen trail]

Tbh as long as Vedal disavowes it we should be good right

[tardy geyser]

oh shit it's the current one vedal's playing?

[tacit wasp]

I still wanna play it myself so I hope it won't get deleted though

[signal monolith]

YES

[tacit wasp]

Yeah

[waxen trail]

Yes...

[lavish escarp]

HAHAHAHHAHA

[pale iron]

Same

[lavish escarp]

TOO LATE

[violet surge]

yep

[lavish escarp]

TOO FUCKING LATE

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH

[waxen trail]

TOO LATE

[tardy geyser]

welp

[violet surge]

yeah oops

[pale iron]

It’s over

[signal monolith]

WE'RE COOKED

END OF JAM

[tacit wasp]

This is fine

[lavish escarp]

HAHAHHAHAHAHH

[sage sapphire]

lmaooo

[lavish escarp]

30 DAY VACATIOn

[nimble dew]

Oh lordy 😄

[native chasm]

Lmao

[sage sapphire]

it's over

[signal monolith]

"Doesn't break twitch tos" moment

[violet surge]

IM LAUGHING MY ASS OFF

[hasty drift]

HAHHAHHAHA

[tacit wasp]

LMAO

[lavish escarp]

HAHAHAHAHAH

[waxen trail]

Legendary day breaking the hype train limit into a ban

[native chasm]

Perfect game for stream

[lavish escarp]

im having a fucking coughing fit

[tacit wasp]

Surely Twitch doesn't have any rules against turtle breeding, right?

[signal monolith]

he can sort

by web

bruh

[violet surge]

he doesnt know

probably uses itch once a year

[tacit wasp]

Deltarune sound effect detected

[tardy geyser]

chat anymore games in the list we need to be aware of

[tacit wasp]

Oh shit they remixed LIFE

[native chasm]

Oh that game was cool too iirc

[violet surge]

feed the mods info

[signal monolith]

it's the only one that cursed I found tbh

[native chasm]

Yeah

[lavish escarp]

im more surprised that you guys didnt warn him beforehand lol

that game is already a classic at this point in this channel

[tardy geyser]

we are tired

[tacit wasp]

UnderNeuro

[quick badger]

the vedal x alex visual novel was something

[sage sapphire]

I believe this is the one from public assets

[tacit wasp]

Neuro Sans fight?

[waxen trail]

@potent stirrup YOUR GAME IS BEING PLAYED

ON STREAM

[sage sapphire]

[lavish escarp]

that wasnt nsfw tho

[violet surge]

and he loves the music

[torpid bridge]

Vedal will never play our game in a while :(

[violet surge]

nah thats funny nothing bad

[native chasm]

I don't remember any tbh

[tardy geyser]

thank you chat

[lavish escarp]

@tardy geyser

[queen halo]

@opaque kiln I think your arrangement of LIFE is on stream rn!

[quick badger]

oh you meant bannable xD no I dont think ive seen anything

[uneven wraith]

didnt know

[native chasm]

Though I only played 21 so can't say for sure

[viscid fable]

that's it I'm making a original LIFE cover after hearing this

[quick badger]

I can't wait to see vedals reaction it tho x)

[lavish escarp]

you know what sucks tho

[tardy geyser]

today i learn that mildly cursed =/= streamable

[lavish escarp]

the game play of the turtle rancher game is genuinely excellent

[sage sapphire]

[lavish escarp]

its seriously fun

its just fucking cursed

[sage sapphire]

[native chasm]

Facts

[tacit wasp]

I'm contributing to a open-source Deltarune fangame, I think I'm gonna add some Neuro content in it
The previous version already had a character Evil hallucinated

[sage sapphire]

[tardy geyser]

btw amazing song everyone liked it

[waxen trail]

Yeah tutel rancher has good gameplay but the tutel breeding was the main thing that drew me to it

[placid salmon]

It is what it is, I could have added a turn off moans options or a skip scene button, but I didn't

[hasty drift]

stream lost to tutel love making

[tacit wasp]

Gonna add a wheel that makes you lose D$ no matter how many positives there is

[lavish escarp]

vedal doesnt check the game jam channel lol

didnt see us talk like fuck about tutel rancher

[waxen trail]

Tutel doesn't realize he need to get the colored memories

[tacit wasp]

To be fair, I don't remember a lot of discussion about Tutel Rancher either despite looking at this channel a lot

The game is just memorable because it's cursed

[lavish escarp]

game crash?

[violet surge]

ooof...

[sage sapphire]

f

[sour horizon]

o7

[waxen trail]

Phew he figured it out

The art for 10 tin cans is peak btw

[nimble dew]

Oh it's a survivor type game

[torpid bridge]

Who still hasn't played Memory Lanes

[lavish escarp]

F

[sage sapphire]

neuro no

[waxen trail]

Duality of Neuro

[lavish escarp]

W

[waxen trail]

W

[violet surge]

wasn't able to finish it
I didn't know how to open shop (use the coins)

[nimble dew]

I have no idea which things are enemies and which collectables?

[torpid bridge]

@sleek reef how do you open the shop btw

[past meadow]

Game journalist turtle

[winged jay]

The ones that have color

Probably

[cloud trench]

you finish 3 rounds

[sleek reef]

its every 3 battles, and you do need to close the mockup evil stats screen because i forgot to hide it

[native chasm]

Btw question abt that game he's playing rn

[torpid bridge]

I'm trying to comment on the games so far

[native chasm]

Does long bar go down somehow or only by sacrificing stuff?

[tacit wasp]

Oh that's why Evil always shows up

[fringe sail]

you have to sacrifice upgrades yeah

[waxen trail]

I think it just advances with every memory you gain

Oh nvm then

[violet surge]

oh so I just had a skill issue and couldn't get past 3rd

[lavish escarp]

F

[nimble dew]

bruh Neuro

[waxen trail]

Ngl Neuro was rude to the games last year too lmao

Based tutel for giving it the attention it deserves

[earnest wind]

Neuro is just rude in general

[native chasm]

Ah so like I buy stuff and I delete stuff and I'm lower than what I started with?

Or is it like the more OP u are the more dangerous it is

[opaque kiln]

Clip? I have shitty internet lmfao

[lavish escarp]

we should bet on each game to see if neuro roasts it

[violet surge]

how about every game

[native chasm]

She won't roast mine cuz they won't even play it lol

[violet surge]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2341504381?t=9h0m42s

from here on

[fringe sail]

you level up by collecting the coloured memories, and deleting upgrades lowers the top bar. i'm pretty sure you are supposed to be able to get them back, but that didnt work for me

[junior elm]

they put your arrangement in the "life dream memory" game, the whole chat was vibing. good shit

[waxen trail]

@fringe star VEDAL PLAYING YOUR GAME ON STREAM

[hollow compass]

lol same with mine. Way too far down on popular for them to get to

[lavish escarp]

sabot is new

F

[violet surge]

knew it, every game

[waxen trail]

@tardy geyser This game was entirely made in scratch according to the dev also it's long as heck but fun
Sorry for the ping I thought you'd like to know xddd

[tardy geyser]

holy crap what

[waxen trail]

Yeah it's crazy

[violet surge]

THIS IS SCRATCH?

is that why the feedback is delayed?

[tacit wasp]

Scratch devs are surprisingly cracked

[opaque kiln]

ok I HAVE to see this later, I'm hella busy rn

[quick badger]

I dont think he saw the objective for this one

[waxen trail]

I also got confused and thought I need to get Vedal to extract that game

[quick badger]

oh he did

[waxen trail]

[quick badger]

I was confused on why he wasn't moving neuro x)

[native chasm]

Too selfish xd

I blame Vadul

[signal monolith]

reading comprehension devil

[native chasm]

I didn't even see objective at first and moved Neuro to black tile where she died

[waxen trail]

Yeah the black tiles got me too a bit

[signal monolith]

it's kinda hard to tell which drones are yours imo

[waxen trail]

I'll go sleep but if Vedal plays our game I hope he has fun

It is cool that he's gonna do the Evil levels too with Lusk's game

Evil is a fun character there

[signal monolith]

I really want him to play my game but i'll probably be dissapointed

[native chasm]

What is that cover music rn?

[tacit wasp]

HELLO HELL

[torpid bridge]

I think he's on the Popularity tag, meaning it will take a WHILE for him to play our game

[sour horizon]

Hope I don't sleep through Vedal playing my game again, but getting really sleepy here
Good night, everyone!

[torpid bridge]

He needs to check Most rated games

[quick badger]

wdym your game was great

really original visuals too

[native chasm]

Thx

[hasty drift]

gn shard

[native chasm]

Which one was your again?

[quick badger]

If I'm not mistaken its the black and white 3d hack and slash

[hasty drift]

pretty sure most who spent 3 days making a game for neuro game jam want him to play it

[quick badger]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211560 this

[hasty drift]

^ its a good game

[native chasm]

Haven't played that one yet

[native chasm]

Honestly not really, my game is too bad xd

[hasty drift]

maybe he will play it longer than tutel rancher

[void parcel]

this is my personal favorite so far. its so good

[quick badger]

Which game did you make?

[native chasm]

Old Castle

[violet surge]

I want to see him fail at our card game

[quick badger]

Ah I did see it, I couldn't test it tho the controls didn't work for me on browser :c

I'll need to download it later to give it a proper run

[deft shard]

Same, I wonder if he would figure out how to beat the final level in my game xD

[native chasm]

The idea was fine, but I didn't have enough time to make a somewhat good game

[hasty drift]

i hope, if he ever plays the game i worked on, that he finishes it.

[lament monolith]

My tech demo is like 10 minutes I hope he sees it 👍

[native chasm]

So there are some bugs, only 2 mins of content and quality is way less than I wanted

[violet surge]

just played this
very good for slashing everything

[quick badger]

It's pretty ok tho for a three days gamejam

[nimble dew]

The game that Vedal just played is a lot of game compared to many other ones 👀

[violet surge]

aw that's it for today

[quick badger]

expecially as a solo dev I assume

[native chasm]

Well, compared to most games I've played it's not that good

[native chasm]

Duo if u count help from Copilot

[nimble dew]

Gameplay wise it seemed pretty good. Plenty of tactical decisions and stuff. Many have like no gameplay.

[quick badger]

Its also one thing to consider, a game can be a lot of things

[deft shard]

Yeah, the amount of playable content is wild in that one i personally spent 70% time on cutscenes and had to cut like 3 ou of 5 fights

[quick badger]

A banger VN and a great roguelike are both good for different reasons

[tacit wasp]

Yeah it depends
Like a lot of the games I have played are story-driven so my replayable simple game loop feels worse compared to others
But it's just different types of games

[quick breach]

i got way to big ambitions for the jam and sadly we did not get far butt at least i managed to make this Neuro animation.

[nimble dew]

I vastly prefer somewhat unique gameplay over text blobs. Cute art and such like in Fragmented is also cool though but would have been better with good gameplay as well 😉

[native chasm]

I wouldn't even consider my submission a game, more like a draft. Games are submissions like Evil's Menace, Evil in Time, Left Behind

[nimble dew]

Same. When I started making my combat system I was like: "... Frick. I feel I need easily a week to think about this and come up with proper gameplay... I give up." That was 29 hours in.

[violet surge]

yooo looks nice

[native chasm]

I was planning to make 2 cutscenes but instead made black screen with dome text on it lmao

[native chasm]

Niiice

[quick badger]

I'm in the same boat tbf, my game is more of a concept demo than a full game, but imo that's fine, it's a good learning experience and can still be enjoyable to play

[native chasm]

I had a lot of plans that I had to cut too

[tacit wasp]

This is the counterpart that actually makes me happy with my choice of game
Very simple but more achievable in 3 days
Maybe I could have done more if I didn't slack off here and there but the whole concept is here

[violet surge]

I'm kinda motivated to create a nuro game just for fun now
maybe something like troubleshooting and web phishing

[royal jewel]

I'm hoping Vedal plays our game at some point
I really want to see his reaction to some of the audio stuff we have for it
I assume the game being WebGL makes it more probable that he does play it at some point

[nimble dew]

Oh lordy Neuro finished with a banger

[native chasm]

Have you seen my game btw? What would you say about it

[nimble dew]

Which one was that?

Oh that castle one, not yet

[torpid bridge]

Hopefully Vedal plays our game tomorrow

[old adder]

hopefully he plays more than 2 games tomorrow

[torpid bridge]

Or at some point

[quick badger]

I honestly wonder how many he will try

[native chasm]

It's really short one

[violet surge]

he has 277 hours left don't worry guys

[tacit wasp]

It is fine to modify the description of the page, right?
I wanna update the list of known issue to include the random crash

[nimble dew]

Is Itch.io down just now? 👀

[native chasm]

Yea same lol

[quick badger]

asked the mod earlier in the jam, you can change anything on your page, just dont touch the gamefiles

[tacit wasp]

Damn it is

[slate mist]

swarm did it again

[tacit wasp]

Nice

[violet surge]

literally "its over" "we're back" graph

[tacit wasp]

Does that happen often or is the Swarm really just that powerful?

[hasty drift]

we should have a forum like for fanart but for fangames since we have so many game creators and im sure many are itching to do a neuro sdk imlpementation to create stream content

[native chasm]

When I was thinking of plot and how to put it, I just couldn't come up with a way to make it work so I had to remove and simplify stuff

[quick badger]

I wanna try continuing my game after the jam, that's be great for that too

[native chasm]

The first idea was going to be way darker though so probably it's a good thing I rejected it

[violet surge]

itching
said the line

[signal monolith]

I was away for a bit, I'm very grateful to people that praised my game a bit ago, It means a lot to me

[violet surge]

but yeah a channel for fan games would be nice to have

[hasty drift]

no pun in ten did

[tardy geyser]

well done to those games played on stream! was really nice to see your entries played on stream.

for the other games that are coming up, good luck

[native chasm]

I'm not sure if I will continue my game, cuz mainly the reason I joined gamejam was to see if I can stop procrastinating for at least 3 days

[hasty drift]

do you think he will play your game?

[tardy geyser]

[native chasm]

And these were probably the most productive 3 days since long time

[violet surge]

what's your game vanor?

[quick badger]

same xD but being productive felt good so I wanna try to do it more

[hollow compass]

I'm hoping to continue my game as well. After a short break though

[native chasm]

Yeah it was pretty good but I probably won't be able to work without that time pressure XD

If the deadline was suddenly moved by 4 days, I'd polish my game to the result that I would actually be proud of
But now it will probably take about forever to do that

[lament monolith]

I had a really good idea before the gamejam started, and then the theme dropped and it was served to me in a silver platter

I could not believe how fucking fitting the theme was to my idea

And then I lost 24 hours fighting with Blender materials and animation actions

Such a shame

[native chasm]

What was your idea?

[ember gorge]

felt that lol

[lament monolith]

You can look at it in the Layers of Waste page

It's a nice tech demo, do try 👍

[native chasm]

Can u give a link?

I'll check it a bit later ig

[lament monolith]

Alright, you called my bluff. I won't be lazy and get it

[nimble dew]

I'm fine abandoning my game jam game and already started working on and planning other things. Like I looked into UI stuff today and animations because I struggled with UI a bunch during the jam. Also I redesigned my combat system idea into one that sounds good on paper for various games.

[native chasm]

That kinda reminded me how I was just listening to EPIC the musical and suddenly realised how perfectly one of the songs fits into that theme

[pulsar stag]

in case someone missed stream i will be updating the games in order of which he is playing

Current games played in game jam 2:
1st part (timer around 278 hrs):
-Abandoned pub
-Neuro-Sama Tutel Rancher
-Neuro's Closet Adventure: Remnants of Vedal The fashionista's Past
-Life Dream Memory
-Neuro Wars

[slate mist]

try Evil In Time it's our game and have banger remix

[native chasm]

It kinda inspired me to make my submission
Plus also I had a similar idea a long time ago, so I kinda combined those thoughts and cut 80% to be able to do it in time

[native chasm]

Yeah it's crazy game tbh, I didn't believe my eyes when I saw it tbh

Though I just got bad ending and gave up xd

[slate mist]

We talked about that too.
72 hours was not enough to fix everything haha.

[native chasm]

You did a lot in those 72 hours tbh, have you slept at least?

[slate mist]

Still, thank you for playing.
A lot of people were grinded, and I'm glad it turned out that much though.

I slept 4 hrs in day so.. yeah technically I slept well

[lament monolith]

I kinda slept really well every day of the jam

The only real problem I had was digestion. My whole digestive system shut down for 3 days and I felt constantly hungry yet sick

[native chasm]

I think out of 21 games I've played do far, Evil in Time is top 1 in overall quality

Like it's an actual game

[slate mist]

Thank you so much for telling me that.
I was also very happy to meet a talented team member.

[native chasm]

That kinda reminded me that it's 5 AM and I should sleep too, lol

[slate mist]

its 11AM here :DD

have a good night

[native chasm]

Just gonna plug my game once more, bye y'all
Old Castle

[hasty drift]

kinda want to plug mine but i dont like doing that so often

[pale iron]

I should’ve made a proper ending instead of just “crashing” the game when completed

[slate mist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbUVb5r0j-U
then I leave my banger here just for listening huhue

[violet surge]

question for Troubleshooting:
is vedal giving a thumbs up the end?

[ember gorge]

Please check out and rate my game as well, Appreciate you all!
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211666

[tacit wasp]

My list of games to play becomes longer faster than I play said games

[violet surge]

play faster

[tacit wasp]

True, I should have thought of that

[signal monolith]

I'm gonna play it tomorrow(in about 8-10hours), especially because itchio has some problems rn

[old adder]

i made a post on cerber's discord for games featuring cerber/minawan, please post your (or anyone elses) games there if i missed any
#1324211739998289941 message

[violet surge]

why does this damn site go down when I'm itching to play

[outer swan]

itch.io down again

[hasty drift]

loads quite slowly rn

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211655
My plug before I got to Bedge, play it if you like tower defense games. Also has custom made pixel art by a talent. gn chat

[deep karma]

(on behalf of @frail wharf )

[lament ermine]

Yeah

[frail wharf]

hello happy new year friends due to unfortunate game design choices it is a little hard to reach my end credits but i worked hard on it so thanks for helping me share it here

[lament ermine]

We have a bad ending too if you fail to capture both anny and mini

I don't know how many got that

And also, you can call anny if you captured her

(wanted to do the same for mini but no time)

[violet surge]

looks amazing
what do I do from here to continue?

[frail wharf]

press backspace

this is one of the unfortunate game design choices

[lament ermine]

relatable

[violet surge]

is this for the game jam?

I guess you wouldn't be able to add a text telling the user to do it then..

[frail wharf]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213348

yeah it would be dishonorable to make an edit

im a bit concerned your cursor is displaying on the left side, that is a visual bug 🤔

[violet surge]

oh yeah I was mashing keys to see what would work

[lament ermine]

We updated our description due to a bug and gameplay issues

[violet surge]

also when I'm this far I have to press ctrl or shift to continue typing (from what I noticed)

[lament ermine]

Maybe you can do that too?

[frail wharf]

what browser are you using? jw

[lament ermine]

I noticed since description was updated we have a lot more comments and ratings

[violet surge]

was on firefox for this
also the cursor up here

[tacit wasp]

Okay I have no idea what I'm supposed to do in this game, I just randomly smash inputs without knowing what it does and it seems to lead me to the bad ending which isn't really surprising

[frail wharf]

woww actually broken on firefox did not expect that

[frail wharf]

just pick the vaguely 'nice' options (this is the other poor design choice)

[tacit wasp]

There are other options?

[violet surge]

wait how do I pick options

[frail wharf]

...

well its up/down

[violet surge]

arrow keys?

[frail wharf]

not including such a mechanic in the tutorial is a third poor design choice

[tacit wasp]

I think having the inputs and/or a How to play section in the description would help, ngl

[violet surge]

just this would be fine and good enough
(and maybe backspace in the file)

[frail wharf]

ok i put the controls in the description

i mean figuring it out is part of the ARTISTIC VISION but ya idk whatever choosing tokens according to greedy sampling is the true neuro simulation

[tacit wasp]

By the way I don't think the Escape key does anything?

[frail wharf]

you can use it to skip from the first screen directly

[tacit wasp]

Here?

[frail wharf]

yes. does it work?

[tacit wasp]

Now it does???

[frail wharf]

🤔 oooh i think you have to do it pretty early on.

[violet surge]

testing in prod

it works for me

[tacit wasp]

I pressed the key a few times and it didn't
I guess the game had troubles seeing I was focused on it

[tacit wasp]

True tutel spirit

[frail wharf]

o thats a iframe thing none of the keys would work unless you focus it, its a security measure so the game cant sniff ur keys

[tacit wasp]

btw, what's the float next to the "1/2" option thingy?

[violet surge]

the amount of options and which option you're on right now

use the up/down arrow keys to choose between

[frail wharf]

it is, cosmetically, the "probability of the next token"
originally it was going to be more ddlc-like and punish you for choosing low probability tokens with spooky effects but thats a lot of work

[rotund rampart]

Did they ended up play game jam games on stream?

[void parcel]

a few. you can see which ones here: #2024-game-jam message

[tacit wasp]

I have unlocked the accapella ending I think?

[frail wharf]

congrats u beat the game!!

[violet surge]

oh so the 0.0000 and 0.99000 below the options are the probabilities?
then it seems I have to try harder to let her "forgive"

[frail wharf]

yeah thats the only mechanic that made it in

[rotund rampart]

Aww, did he play them by popularity?

[frail wharf]

i spent like 2 days on the engine and cutscenes and then realized i had to make a script

[void parcel]

i think so, but not 100%

hes going to play more later though so dw you might still get to see your game on stream

[tacit wasp]

I'm gonna be honest, I have almost no clue what I have done that made the ending go from bad to good
It feels like a very interesting concept though somewhat. I don't know what happened to Neuro and Vedal in this world but I'd be ready to see more with more instructions

[violet surge]

it's pretty eerie in my opinion

[rotund rampart]

If its based on popularity then my game probably wont have a chance, its always top 40~ish

[void parcel]

does it have a web build?

[rotund rampart]

Yea

[void parcel]

then you already have a higher chance of getting played

[tacit wasp]

Yeah it is and I love it

[frail wharf]

it was actually shown in the opening cutscene, ||vedal deleted neuro 2024 in favor of neuro 2025 but she got trapped in limbo||

[violet surge]

im trying to get the good ending but damn its hard

[tacit wasp]

Ah, yeah I didn't understand that at all lmao

[rotund rampart]

Idk, if he played based on most rated, then he already skipped mine

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213059

[tacit wasp]

He played most popular iirc

[violet surge]

he only played the first 3-4 most popular ones

he'll continue tomorrow

[void parcel]

is itch still having issues? its loading very slowly for me

[rotund rampart]

How do games get popular anyway

[violet surge]

you should totally work on it after the voting period ends. I really like the concept and how it looks
you could build on this

[unreal plinth]

Woohoo, I've made it over halfway through the web games!

[void parcel]

i would guess its based on the other stats, karma+most viewed+most downloaded+most rated, maybe more

[frail wharf]

unfortunately wont have time as i am back 2 work dealing with real llms tomorrow

[tacit wasp]

I agree

[unreal plinth]

Seems it's something they very much want to keep secret, but it uses historical and recent data in some way
https://itch.io/t/719515/how-does-itchio-sort-games-by-these-criteria-popular-newpopular-top-rated-top-sellers-most-recent

[void parcel]

that makes sense. if its public knowledge people could try to game the system more easily

[rotund rampart]

I mean we can do some inference

[unreal plinth]

Yeah, based on what they have said, it's likely that they use the amount of plays/downloads since publication, along with the amount of recent plays/downloads with a higher weight, and a bit of added weight based on the recency of publication

Essentially aiming to show you the most played games, with a bit of bias to show you up and coming games, or games that have recently started to blow up a bit

[tardy flint]

I hope vedal doenst play my game, its an exe anyway and not webgl

[rotund rampart]

I’ve been consistently top 5 rated but never made it to top 20 popularity, meanwhile some games that I’ve never seen plugged, example is one with 6 rated and 2 comments is top 5 popularity.

(If this is sounding salty, its not, I’m genuinely curious on what we can infer from this)

[violet surge]

why not

[tardy flint]

i uploaed with the idea that he wouldnt review all of it, but he has a lot of spare time now

[tardy flint]

well its too barebones, its just a proof of concept that i barely managed to bang out in 3 days

[sage sapphire]

I made a lot of warnings for vedal if he finds my work I doubt it would work cuz I'm sure he won't read my comments

[rotund rampart]

https://itchanalytics.vercel.app/jam/neuro/3213278

This one for example, based on this, I’m pretty sure whatever gives a game popularity isn’t a data shown

[subtle quartz]

It's a shame this game jam ended up right in the middle of the holidays. I really wish I had more free time to work on my game.

[rotund rampart]

Did you submit anything?

[subtle quartz]

Yeah, just a short renpy visual novel. It's nowhere near what I wanted to make

[rotund rampart]

Which one?

[subtle quartz]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212278

[violet surge]

how did you get her to sing?(choices) I'm still stuck on getting the bad ending

[frail wharf]

just pick some 'nice' options

[unreal plinth]

Hmmm :/
You're right, that blows anything I thought out the window.
What could they possibly be tracking for popularity then?? That game has barely been played, yet it's #5 in popularity???

[rotund rampart]

There’s more than 1 of these

[tacit wasp]

Like they said, I choose "nice" options
||Say she was streaming to millions of fans, that Vedal wasn't having fun, that her dream was wonderful, and corpses for some reason||

[mint ice]

oh you made this! It was one of the first games I played. I liked it a lot. If you have any understanding of LLMs it's really cool.

[frail wharf]

yeah its a comedy game for ppl who use llms :]

[violet surge]

oh I did it

probability 0.0001

[tacit wasp]

Still have no clue what probability and token means

[unreal plinth]

And thanks for informing me of that site, that's super cool being able to see the stats.
Apparently I'm one of the coolest

[violet surge]

oh lol she noticed that I chose tip and not song at the last choice

[tacit wasp]

||All I know is that the lower ones seems to be the good options generally, except the very last one||

[rotund rampart]

Oh I haven’t played your game yet

[frail wharf]

llms such as neuro sama are really elaborate versions of ur phone's autocomplete

it tries to guess what word would be most likely to come next and picks one based on some kind of sampling strategy

in the game you play as the sampling strategy

[mint ice]

I kind of forget in the game but does the token choices have branching paths or was it pretty linear?

[frail wharf]

it was pretty linear. i had more ambition beforehand but i realized that to scale up the complexity of the narrative i would have to programatically orchestrate the audio

[violet surge]

the only branch is at the escape/forgive choice

the game you've made fascinates me

[frail wharf]

glad to hear it!

[tacit wasp]

Yeah it's an interesting game

[frail wharf]

you could, in principle, plug this UI straight into neuro and control what she says in a branching way. though it wouldnt work with the api as it stands, would need lower level access

[rotund rampart]

I heard fascinating game, which one

[violet surge]

especially with showing what neuro really is (llm). it's also eerie and sad (even with the song, the last lyric)
man I want more

[violet surge]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213348

[tacit wasp]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213348

[violet surge]

[tacit wasp]

Damn same timing

[civic fractal]

Shame is that I had that type of thing ready, never ended up being used in the final build.

[rocky glen]

fellas did he play the games?

[rotund rampart]

The top few popular web ones

[rocky glen]

will he keep going?

[violet surge]

yeah, tomorrow

[lament monolith]

Electricman 2 Flashbacks

[rocky glen]

alr thx

[civic fractal]

Our server didn't explode so it wasn't ours yet.

Guess that means I need to do more advertising
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213324

[rotund rampart]

Idk man, I dont think our games aren’t top in popularity due to a lack of advertising

[rocky glen]

did anybody post like a full clip of him playing the games?

[lament ermine]

our game is top 5% popularity, probably because we have good presentation and got an early boost from karma (i rated like 20 games in first day after the game jam)

we still only have 500 views tho

[civic fractal]

Odds are that it is the karma system itch has. The more you rate, the more positive your own game appears.

[rotund rampart]

Which one is this again

[lament ermine]

Troubleshooting

[marsh swan]

Oh so karma system is based on how much u rated yourself?

[lament ermine]

I think our ratings took a hit because of the bugs and stuff early on, but it started rising once I fixed description

[rotund rampart]

Its not karma

https://itchanalytics.vercel.app/jam/neuro/3213278

Look at this one

[civic fractal]

hmm

[rotund rampart]

So I think its probably something manipulatable like number of clicks/impressions on links

[lament ermine]

I think karma gives a slight boost? I read up here that it makes itch recommend your game more in the rating pages

[rotund rampart]

Look at this game, this has nothing

[rotund rampart]

^

[lament ermine]

yea

[rotund rampart]

its definitely something dumb like impressions or clicks

[lament ermine]

what's your stats on that

[rotund rampart]

Not on my pc atm

[lament ermine]

alr

I think this is ok-ish stats

[thorny citrus]

guys, last year i played all of the entries and i wanna do it again but this time is almost triple the amount xDD

[civic fractal]

Lower here, but it happens

[mint ice]

it is pretty daunting lol

[marsh swan]

I also wanna play everything but there is so much of it xD

[mint ice]

i was exhausted after the game jam and then too tired to play the games...

[marsh swan]

games for like 2 weeks :P

[lament ermine]

I think generally, ~2% is considered good, over 3% is really good and over 1% is about normal. Our game was sitting at roughly 2% CTR but with our new update and participation in a ‘post-jam’ is at around 3% which we’re really happy with. Sadly I can’t comment on the downloads as we also have a web build which affects the number of downloads we get.

Your game looks great, very ambitious!

[rotund rampart]

ok, so this is the metric

[thorny citrus]

ya it took me 3 or 4 days

[lament ermine]

less impressions but pretty good ctr

[rotund rampart]

since the current ranking for popularity is troubleshooting > my game > neuro can't sing

[frail wharf]

click-through-rate?

[lament ermine]

yep

[frail wharf]

that doesnt seem like a very good metric

[rotund rampart]

so its almost guaranteed to be impressions

which means just plug the heck out of it I guess

[rotund rampart]

well yea

[rotund rampart]

I have 50 rated and am at top 20+ in popularity

[lament ermine]

I don't think plugging in game jam channel is best idea, all of us are developers here

and probably have already played a lot of games

[rotund rampart]

yea

gonna upload my art on the art channels

[potent stirrup]

I just saw it very happy for our team, glad Vedal enjoyed it

[rotund rampart]

shameless plug here:
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213059

just look at it, I just need impressions

don't even have to click

[viscid fable]

[fringe star]

just watched vedal play my game, am happy

[rotund rampart]

Oh hey you’re here

[marsh swan]

which one was it>

[fringe star]

the tile based tactics one where he shoots his own units

[rotund rampart]

What’s your impressions/ctr like on your games analytics page? Trying to infer the basis on how popularity is calculated @fringe star

[marsh swan]

Oh yea that was a very cool one! :D

[fringe star]

HOLY SPIKE

mine is at 3.22%

[rotund rampart]

Number of impressions?

[fringe star]

9k...

i dont know what it means

[rotund rampart]

Oo then my theory is wrong

Back to the drawing board

[fringe star]

heres my stats incase you need something like reference

goodluck on the drawing board

[rotund rampart]

Oh hmm

Its still technically correct

Now I just need data from 1 person above you

[fringe star]

neat

[rotund rampart]

Wait nvm, its not correct, troubleshooting had a higher impression

And my ctr is around yours

So its probably neither of this data

[lament ermine]

they have more plays per view, more ctr and only 2k less impressions

than troubleshooting

[rotund rampart]

I have around the same in all 3

Much lower in popularity

[lament ermine]

I think it's a weighted sum of the stats, maybe?

could be hidden stats

[rotund rampart]

Yea its hidden stats

[civic fractal]

Here's an extra datapoint, not like it helps

[lament ermine]

every datapoint is more information

[placid salmon]

This conversation is interesting, I would share my stats but I can't share images, maybe I'll just write them

[rotund rampart]

It does actually, every datapoint is useful

[civic fractal]

Want me to post it for you?

[rotund rampart]

Yes please, what’s your game btw

[placid salmon]

Yes, I'll send you

[placid salmon]

Tutel rancher

[rotund rampart]

oh yes I'm super interested in your data

[civic fractal]

A very good data point

[violet surge]

oh...

[rotund rampart]

is this why everyone wants to buy user data /s

[violet surge]

give us your data

[placid salmon]

Data is more important than money

[rotund rampart]

I have lower views than I remembered, so maybe weighted does make sense (just hopped back onto pc to get this)

[placid salmon]

I also have my own theory on the popular filter

[lament ermine]

current analysis

[rotund rampart]

share

[placid salmon]

I sent you a dm

[rotund rampart]

now I need data between Electric Turtle and Neuro can't sing

I think having Rolling Girl's datapoint would be good too

[lavish escarp]

ive been summoned

[civic fractal]

Hello Mika

[placid salmon]

You all know that itchio has a reputation system right? Every developer is rated by the algorithm, a bad dev can have their game shadow banned even.

[rotund rampart]

or better yet, give me Treasures of the sand, anybody know who made that?

[civic fractal]

Give us your stats

[lavish escarp]

for the game (shameless plug) : https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830

[rotund rampart]

okay this throws everything I know out of the water

[marsh swan]

Oh I was gonna play this one!

[torpid bridge]

Sigh.... This sucks because it will take a while for Vedal to play.

[marsh swan]

thank u for shameless plug :P

[rotund rampart]

I'm using this outlier as my basis of research, this is top 5 popularity
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213278

[slate mist]

how i can sse about information about your game: ?

[rotund rampart]

which info

[lavish escarp]

i have a surprisingly low amount of browser plays tho

[slate mist]

i mean

[civic fractal]

Head to your dashboard and click in the analytics tab.

[torpid bridge]

https://itchanalytics.vercel.app

[slate mist]

liek that screenshot

[rotund rampart]

what's your history with itch io?

[lavish escarp]

i made the account to submit the game right as the game jam was ending

i added payment so as to be able to put a $2000 donation option to the downloads

[rotund rampart]

so we're the same more or less

[torpid bridge]

What sucks is that I

1. Not the main publisher
2. Don't own a PC, so I can't play any games

[rotund rampart]

and metrics wise mine is higher in every category but am 1 rank lower in popularity

so in conclusion, popularity in itch.io game jams is voodoo magic

[lament ermine]

XD

[torpid bridge]

What does popularity even track????

[lavish escarp]

mine will be biased because a lot of the people who tried my game at the start came from the shameless plugs

[pale iron]

I haven’t rated any games yet because I won’t be back until Saturday.

[lament ermine]

I noticed our game were getting views from itch's main pages

[rotund rampart]

the data is already there though

[lament ermine]

maybe that could part of it

[fringe star]

how do i see this?

i cant find a way to get to it

[placid salmon]

Impressions are good, ctr is even more good because it means people care more, and plays and even more good, people playing your game is good, but not all gamers are born the same, some people are better for the system than the others, players also have reputation, or at least this is what I think, an account created a day ago will always be worse than someone from 3 years.

[civic fractal]

In our case, both me and sam entered last year. Just as an extra data point.

[torpid bridge]

I'm gonna check if we are lower than Dark light, the game that didn't even follow the theme

If we are then there is something seriously messed up

[rotund rampart]

same history on the site, but lower in popularity

so its definitely a hidden metric