#2024-game-jam
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lemme give iggly the scores in my discord servers
same, we're working on atleast fixing the bugs
multiple peeps said they want to see an extension for our game :DD
The main menu was very last minute too, but the itch page has the credits
(do plug your game!)
the original mechanics of the game was very different, and we had to make the final gameloop in the last day which means it's not the best gameplay wise
I feel that, I also had to pivot during the jam 😔
Oooo can't wait to try this one out later 
I give up, how do I turn on the vending machine?
||battery in ellie's room||
Your rating has been added
yeah, object highlights would be nice too
items you can pick up not having any indication that they can be picked up hurts >.<
trueing, though since it was made by solo dev it gets a pass
okay done with my immediate backlog, who wants to be rated/ratings exchange
I know your pain, had played some old school pixel hunting games
going to advertise my cookie-stealer-crypto-miner--uber-dangerous-malware to you guys as Im going to sleep. It's really short and takes like couple minutes to play through
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213399
ohh, I really wanted to play this, but it didn't fit on my screen
im sorry, thats my bad really LMAO
not our team acc getting follows 
but I had to hardcode everything bc was running out of time
Finally made the whole list of every game I said I would play yesterday and those that I have already played
And it's not even complete obviously
I could only play like 10 this evening after work and really exhausted lol. fk my job
going to continue tomorrow for sure, a lot of great stuff
I wish I could play all those games this evening but I just learn we're going back to where we did New Year in like 2 hours
So either I become a speedrunner or I just go back to opening tabs on my phone lmao
How about our game Sea of Memories? 
https://superobot1.itch.io/sea-of-memories
But I feel your pain, I have like a ton of tabs open. Every new game I finish and rate I find two more cool games to play 
Those are part of the games I forgot to add to the list but would remember I wanted to play them the second I see them
I have had some of those too, totally fair 
In other news, the jam has crossed 2K ratings 
The pain of watching web games get more plays/ratings because they don't require downloading 
That's the price I have to pay for using GM8 lmao
It's common with game jams tbh because people are spooked about downloading stuff on their PC
in other news, I've rated 6 games today, and will continue to do more as long as subathon doesn't have anything too exciting going on in it
I admit I wouldn't download jam entries on my PC in big public jams, but I do for the Neurojam because the community is kind and actually cares about Neuro (and not about infecting computers with malware)
What if I infect your computer with Neuro?
sandbox is the way anyway
What if I want that 
True, but I don't think a lot of people know about it, I only learned about it this jam
It's been good for downloading games here though
windows (i guess pro version though) has sandbox feature (I use it for example)
Good to know! 
it runs basically vm with clean windows
Huh. That is actually pretty neat. May have to try this out with the game jam games.
Windows has the feature disabled by default, but you can activate it by opening "Turn Windows Features on or off" and then clicking the checkbox besides Windows Sandbox, it's pretty useful
just played superbot's game
a fascinating idea. idk if I got lucky but I just kinda destroyed every enemy in 1 turn I came across (except the last one, that one took 2 turns xd)
Nice, I'm glad you liked it!! xdd
oh wait, I think I know why I one-shot everything
There's multiple ways to win and you can get different events based on your character
yeah Evil is kinda busted 
+3 attack isnt that much
ngl
evil is kinda mild as far as the game goes
cerby is fucking cracked
Cerby is just +2! but yeah the Cerby + digging and getting buffs is gud
except cerby only gives +2
Also Anny + Neuro
is it on digging and not entering it? 
It's on entering iirc
actually with vedal, evil, and cerby
You can get some really good upgrades from it
island to island and plundering their resources
man i just played the british empire didnt i
the "Recruit" button being the only "yes/ok" button that's on the left side xdd
oh yea misclicked the no so much
Oh shit true xdd let me fix that for the post-jam version lmao
Returning players getting double confused any%
the amount of failed vedal runs because i turned down everyone 
I don't respect builds that look anything other than this /s
so uhh... yeah...
glass cannon built
What else is there to say but... DOWN WITH THE WHEEL!! DOWN WITH THE TIME GOD!!
can't die if everything dies before you do
so true
almost enough atk to take down 2 time gods in 1 turn
fk I wanted to go sleep but got distracted by your game @waxen trail too.. had a blast, gn o7
Good night, thank you for trying it out!! 

Hey everyone! I’m putting together a small team for a year-long game jam. It’s nothing too serious, mostly a fun learning experience, is there any 2D artist interested in joining?
y-year long?
yeah xd
YEAR LONG?!?
at that point that's basically a job innit
won't be working on it full time at all
May I ask here for someone to rate my submitted game?
yeah but it ain't paying anytime soon
"pays in experience" cmon lmao
My hands are already full.
fair
Feel free to plug your game here, we all have done it already lmao
not glass cannon
very much a well built cannon
@waxen trail i do wish that at the end of the game it asks you who you want to be captain next
Just started playing Sea of Memories, I love how Neuro and Evil have special bonuses but Vedal got nothing 
that would be interesting.. and then you could choose a crewmate to be the captain 
maternal instinct
he just buff 
oh, alr, here it is then
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213344
daily plug https://unmoon.itch.io/surviwan please tell me you like and dont like
i want to learn what makes it good or bad
It's not really good and ik that, but hopefully it's not too bad either
its kinda like a difficulty slider built into the characters
like 100%OJ
sorry sergio for breaking up your messages 
Goated team 
That's a great idea, I didn't have time to add a "return to main menu" option for picking a new captain but I should add that for the post-jam & NeuroSDK versions!
fair enough
shard art 
oh yea thats something i wouldve very much wanted for replayability, wanted to try the other characters but though huh i guess not
yeah I just closed and reopened tab to play again lmao
There's a way to try out other characters... it's called F5 (refresh web page) 
or F5, ye
yeahhh but im lazy 
i'm curious why this thing wasn't disqualified yet, it's literally upload of the official abandoned archive demo
time god reminds me of time wizard 
Destroyed by time god? Can't relate 
click on the "report submission" button
did you report it?
yes, yesterday
just wait then i guess
Got it, I need to invest in more Camellias
Anny + Neuro combo works great too
And Cerber is kinda OP as well
But you can win even with 3 Vedals
I played and commented, it has alot of potential
vedal after fucking with the wheel
Thank you for checking it out!!
Gonna go back to the jam entry grind after I finish fixing some more stuff with it
Iirc Evil mentioned the time god when the wheel got messed up ! kinda spooky 
i kept forgetting to do that 
I’m 3 rates away from overtaking vedal
Plug time
This game was so adorable
totally recommend it
i was gonna rate it after a few others in my list
gonna plug since 3 total ratings and i updated the cover art https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213155
I played this too, it was quite fantastic
i play now
windows wont let me run it
is it blocked by antivirus?
yea windows defender
happens to me too
any jam game I download either gets stopped by chrome or windows defender
I have to disable both to play 
this is the funniest game I've seen so far
i added another download link in the comments but i dont know if it stops it being blocked
It probably won't cuz antivirus blocks files, not link
if those are same files then they'll be blocked anyway
at the end of the day its like what 140 download only entries, which are almost all unsigned executables
to windows defender, something like that is on sight
use itch io in sandbox mode
vedal's playing game jam games today 
oh shit
yep, on stream just now
also, careful about that, its pretty close to this rule
Spin the wheel
-6 seconds
genuinely not a good idea to turn windows defender off for these games btw, would take one degen fuck with a bad script to hit your PC if you turn off all its defenses
use itch io sandbox
jesus fuck the tesla joke
u both got 40 rates now
1 more to beat vedal haha
any chance he'll play mine?
it's 3rd most popular so propably?
(shameless plug)
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830
Vedal will play all 280 games copium 
lets goooo
top 3 most rated, in the middle with popularity haha
It's not likely he will tbh but I definitely hope he'll play as many as possible
I don't think the stream will go so far, we have to raise the timer
You dare doubt Vedal's speedrunning skills? haven't you seen him play SOMA? 
how many games y'all played btw?
40~ish
Only 28 so far 😔
I basically sort out the ones that look shortest and play those first
and keep the long ones for when I have not much to do
I rated only 17 so far
That's a good idea, a lot of my 28 games were on the longer end
so stuff like branching paths will probably be played much later
like 25
I just didn't finish some of the games
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211883
No way the scratch guy made a game this year too 
i forgot to rate that
the goat 
yea I'm actually shocked by how many good games there are
have y'all seen this btw?
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213373
LMAO
great game
rate this to the top
plug yours while at it btw
oh my god
its beautiful
I've sent it already a while ago but ig repeating won't harm
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213344
y does it wants to install something to my pc
idk its the gamemaker installer
this is quite fun
sadly they have a major bug in the version they submitted
it really be like that 
haven't seen you around here, you have a game to plug?
god this wheel is so stupid xD
I HATE THE WHEEL
they keep respinning and keep getting negatives and it really really highlights how dumb the wheel idea was lol
the point of lowering time is when you dont want to keep subathoning, but this wheels just forcibly ending the subathon
It's neurover! 
Its neurover
We'll just roll tomorrow
sadge
can anyone explain why we can only rate 1-5 stars
i want to make a horror game but the only horror is spinning a wheel that never lands on positive numbers
5 star rating systems have been around for a long time
with microtransactions?
A horror game where the wheel chases you down a dark corridor, only to catch you and roll a negative number
reliving the trauma
We need pity mechanics
next year we should all make the wheel the antagonist for our gaamejam
This wheel is cursed fr

Play as chat and protest to overthrow the vedal wheel dictatorship
ik but it's so annoying that I can't put 0 or something between 4 and 5
Or Vedal's cursed
if you have rating 1-10 most people will pick 1,7,8,9.10
half the scale becomes useless
he rolled 3 more times, got -3, -3, -2 -_- what in the world
rng do be like that
I replied to the wrong one lol
idk I usually prefer to use more numbers
honestly percentage would be perfect for me xd
When you put a 90% success chance event in your game and one player ends up rolling poorly on it three times in a row
😔
Statistically it's just bound to happen eventually
I think you're in the minority, 1-5 scale forces you to think more about your score and be more diverse
that's why u don't use real rng
True, real RNG is bad (I will probably continue to use it 😔 )
Though I guess it depends on where it's used, like loot tables vs. other stuff, and how often things are rolled, etc.
well, it depends on situation
somewhere it's better (and way easier) to just use actual RNG, somewhere it isn't
Add a wheel to your game, and if it detects neuro and vedal playing, only give bad outcomes
in cases where players use smth a lot, it's better to use fake rng so they don't get frustrated
if I'm adding a wheel, we're shooting with a million bullets from swarm drones
im good at statistics if anyone has all wheels and results from every spin i can analyse it
over 2.1k total ratings 
So that's the reason there is a name option in some games 
maybe, I just prefer to rate with higher perscision (me can't spell)
also 1/5 star for Audio in games that are completely silent just looks so wrong to me, just let me do 0/5 T~T
yeah, maybe you will use 1-10 scale properly, but most people will think that everything below 7 is complete shit instead of average for example
yipee, i now have time to start rating games again!
I just give 1/5 if no audio, 2/5 if shit audio, 3/5 if decen audio, 4/5 good audio, 5/5 very good audio
if the subathon ends today, my entry next year will be destroying wheels non stop
mannn, 100+ entries next year with the wheel being an antagonist
We plan on actually finishing ours (finish: rewrite it from scratch) and I'm actually thinking about adding a wheel.

This time to "heal the wound".
yea that sounds weird
I spend 24+ hrs awake to just to cut half of the stuff. I love time and scope management 
Please feel free to check it out!
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211666
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213059
let's trade
I want one more rate 
this is perfect
Deal 
love the art
I was very fortunate to have amazing artists. The arts of your game is amazing, It's so cute!!!!
I had to scrap the original idea and half of the gameplay and half of the story just to get it in time xd
Anny singlehandedly saved the subathon 
she's so real for that
One item we wanted was called "raise the timer" (Neuro's actions were on a timer), and I was thinking of making it Anny's star. She's proving me right.
my team was also artist heavy haha, it was me + 3 artist, I'm not programming alone next year for sure
for me this gamejam was like constantly changing between "at this rate I'm going to make everything I've planned, even if it won't be everything I've planned at first" and "I have no time for anything of this, time to cut and speedrun poor quality"
I have a "raise the timer" event in my game... it require paying supplies to work but it might end up becoming free if you have Anny in your party 
Duality of dev
which game is yours btw?
Give it a discount, so it's not that unbalanced.
"Sea of memories" was our game
And discount is a good idea tbh
if you ever add more to sea of memories, ping me, I love that game
yeah I've spent like 4 hours trying to unsuccessfully fix spikes in my game just to remove them
yep gonna need look for at least 3+ dev for next year here too 
I have a whole item mechanic that was supposed to tie better to the theme that I had to scrap 
Pain
last day was like "I've got plenty of time", two soundtracks later, "I have no time to do anything"
I want to!! fixed some stuff for the post-jam / Neuro SDK version and I want to add a couple of events / options too
Hope you enjoy it 
Literally feel that, I tried to fix a bug that was made by another dev, solution was just to revert back some changes becasue we had 4 hrs left 
ayy, there's quite a few games I would to see expanded
Same, there were so many cool games I played and I'm only like 30 games in !
@ember gorge did you finished my game and rated?
cause I just got the 1 vote I needed

yep yep
yay finally above vedal haha
at least u had a solution xd, I just gave up to not spend 10 more hours trying to understand wth is wrong with that code
you can actually ask around here tbh, I remember there being quite a few code related discussions during the jam
the problem was that I needed spikes to change in 2 cases and one of them was working fine but another just didn't. And the thing is idk why, cuz I checked multiple times and the function was called properly, it just, didn't do anything when was called from different place for some reason
what was your game build on btw?
like Dev.Log() (in Unity) was working but change of sprite in that same part of code wasn't
ohh was the sprite change on an animator?
I had a function that was changing spike state every time player moved between tiles or hit a training dummy. It worked perfectly on player movement, but hitting dummy resulted in nothing.
Even though Dev.Log() inside was working in both cases
rip, at the very least it could be transition on the animator not going through due to a parameter on it not being updated correctly. Bools and triggers change on update usually break stuff on it.
this is unity right? were you doing the state change in update?
it wasn't something like the movement part still updating the sprite state so it instantly switched back before it even was visible?
I had like public event in script for player movement and another in script for dummy, script for spikes had listenes for both of them that would invoke private function to change the state. Yeah it's unity
in that case its probably an issue with how the delegate is handled
are you calling the event in update?
honestly I try to discourage people from doing things in update as much as possible, even with a good understanding of ECS, the update function is still very flimsy
Me half a year ago: "Hmmm, how do i make it so you can't move this winforms window when the game is running?"
setting the position of the window to the desired one every single frame
I've just played game from neurosoda, it was indeed peak
which one
u mean like invoking it? yeah I think it was in update in both cases
not sure cuz, well, the only code left from that is in the conversation with Copilot which doesn't have everything
I see
it was really funny and Vedal or Alex need to play it
I found the parts of code I used for event of movement, but can't see the ones for hitting enemy
holy crap this is HILARIOUS
Least parasocial fan.
its alex x vedal
Zero clue if that is better or worse. 
its funny hahaha
I haven't been able to keep up with the streams, is there any word on whether vedal will be going through neuro integrated games, and when? probably after subathon if at all right?
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211560
It's been a long time since I plugged my game, feel free to plug your games back at me, I'll gladly play them
there won't be an "after subathon" at this pace 
#2024-game-jam message
Alex said this:
whenever :Shruge:
if you do it before the subathon ends vedal might play them now, otherwise he will do it after his 6 month break
sure thing! 
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211666
looks interesting, I'll give it a try! we went with 2D inside 3D graphics with our game too:
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3204684
literally what happened last year game jam 
The art for this is really cute, I'll play it later or tomorrow 
iirc last jam he played some games during the subathon and a few after
yea, I think I got my 1st game played like a few months after his subathon break
It was great and the ending is very touching, harpoon was a bit jank but you've added the ability to reset position, super cute art, cool story, very nice
om, I actually played this one already, it was among first 10 games i've played, it was also the first game i've given a very good score to
you have to type more often, eventually bot will give you this ability
Yippie
thank you
yea I understand how it works, it's just that I wasn't really active here before
lmao, playing as Eliv with 2 hp, first move, event that damages me by 2
death
just finished playing, the art is really endearing and the final boss was a lot of fun!
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3208404
is this game a scam?
79 atk, 11 hp, just perfect ship xd
It depends on your build but definitely possible
Highest I've seen is like 180 atk 
60 atk 6 hp is def not the way to go xd
No (maybe), itch is paranoid
If the fog is in the final stage then yeah it's a super rare softlock xde I fixed it for the post jam version & hopefully Neuro SDK version too (':
ah, got it
tbh this is probably the most replayable game I've seen so far on this gamejam
will u add more stuff to it later?
I added some polish stuff and I want to add a few more events & event options at least 
I'd love to see longer sessions, cuz getting to the time god isn't that long
well long as there's no reports received on your end that sounds fine, there's a couple rates to it too
so I'll download and play it
Gasp they just mentioned game jam
wow
"have you played game jam games yet?"
"that was my plan today"
I'm so sorry for my sins, at the beginning of the review period I've reported it for being malicious because defender flagged it, now I know that defender is just fucking stupid, I'm sorry
though this year there's even smaller chance that he will play our games as there are more entries this time
go apologize on that page so people will know
this is my report just so you know
Do anyone know when we can start updating the game we did for the game jam
Once the rating period ends!
when the jam is over
after rating is over
unless it's extended
Ah Ight
so like 5 days or so
I mean you can update it on your end whenever, but you can only update the public version after the jam
definitely explain it in the comments, it'd be super sad that potential people are skipping it cause of the report
I was literally just thinking to say almost same thing word for word :O
So if you want to fix stuff for later you can but uploading the changes won't be fair
SYNCRONICITY 
Yeah, I didn't know windows defender flags everything, now that I played more games, it seems like it flags half of them, gonna explain it in the comments
the report is not publicly shown so uhm... i dont think it matters?
U can work on it even now if u want to, u just can't upload new version for other people to rate it
it shows you a scary warning now
if you try to download
definietly my fault
This
oh, my bad 
Ah i see
Added yeeting characters you kick out of your team for the post-jam version lmao
I hope it helps at least a little
amazing
btw have anyone played "At What Cost"? for some reason I can't run it, the game just closes every time
I played it
vedal army + the right event nodes can probably 1 shot time god
hmm, i still need to play games from cloudburst, vanorsigma, Vaza and LuDeRu, time to play i guess
I like the LuDeRu one, the character sprites are great
Vaza's game is really well done too
haven't tried the other two?
It's possible to go all Vedal team and win for sure 
I actually wanted to have a Mosquito987 character with the Vedal trait too which gains attack every time it deals damage
didn't play our nice mods games smh
Vaza's game is amazing
I've emailed itchio support, I hope they can resolve that
you need to download program
I did all these steps but it just opens and closes a CMD window
That's weird, I run npm start in my CMD and it stays open
In the randy folder before the jam
you need to download Node.js i think
Managed to keep it open to screenshot the log
Is that the one about Evil?
Check the log and see what it says
Evil's Malice yeah
yea it's one of my favs so far
Vaza made an amazing game last year too but this year he surpassed that it feels
It's on of my favorites too tbh, maybe even favorite so far
which are these? (I don't rly remember who made what)
yea I played it, who are others tho
this one from cloudburst
https://cloudburstwan.itch.io/groggs-quest
cloudburst and vanorsigma are mods who also take part in game jam
oh, I haven't yet played others ig
I'm not sure which is my fav cuz there are many good ones
vanorsigma also participated in last jam as well
Good news, the timer is now higher than the timer for Game-jam voting 
alex will be happy
Vedal isnt getting his vacation just yet
But that means the voting isn't getting extended, less time to play submissions damn xD
out of 21 games I've played I find 8 to be good
Although, I wouldn't mind having more time, 279 games is a lot 
we'll get abandoned archive haha
is it good tho? it means shorter rating period 
my goal is to at least finish all the webgl ones
how one of them is the least popular of all 21 
which one
Left Behind
yea it is one of my fav so far
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213368
imma plug this one again, it's not mine, but super good and underrated
try this guys
played that one, was quite good
I think objectively it is not the best one out there, cuz some other games like Evil in Time have more content and quality, but subjectively I just love the way it's made so much
Holy shit the Vedal x Alex VN is a masterpiece 
YES
that's so funny HAHA
The writing in it is immaculate
yo guys
yo guy
Perfect blend of romance and programming
i made it so that mine cant be downloaded
handicapping yourself so early in the game huh
why does it say 2 downloads in my analytics?
it was truly an experience
Ohhhhhh
Probably people downloading the webGL through the itch.io app
your game is webgl right?
i want Alex or Vedal to play it
webgl doesn't hide download I think
dunno, made the thing in scratch 3
gotta play this one later
this is your game right?
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212401
yep
oh I played that one

It's great, I'm a fan of the art
thx, i just played around with vectors
I wish it had audio too, though
yea really liked the art in that
were you solo?
yes
Damn, that's some serious content for a solo run
my skillset doesnt include audio unfortunately
Relatable
its really good content for solo
really? was kinda sad with the art though
What!! I thought the art was really cute
your art was the best part
its charming
not that, those were supposed to be placeholders
I've rated it 5/5 for art, but tbh I think I'll replay to see if it is correct
I just noticed this button, it looks useful
Here's a badly photograped picture of vedal.
this is something like a special animation
I mean most people liked this sprite the most I think from my game
Well the planned one
That's so cute 
But idk maybe it's too complicated
I liked smol tutel vedal firing his guns pew pew
yea same
pretty sure most people will pick the right one over the left one
in conclusion, cute gremlin carries
Both 
both is good
most comment in my game is about bread neuro haha
i'd pick left one tho xd
this is the most talked about sprite in my comments
its adorable
dont remember if i ever shared this in this discord, but i added neuro to one of my games before either game jam happened lol. we already had these cannon turtles and it reminded me so much of vedal that i had my artist make a neuro to sit on top of it
hahaha
thats cute
what's the situation with using neuroverse (vedal, evil and neuro) as character in games outside of game jam?
is there like some protocol to follow?
idk but i figure ill deal with it after i get anywhere near releasing the game lol
i dont really wanna be bothering vedal about it when im not even sure ill get there haha
i doubt i can just, straight up use it
I spent so much time spinning
do we know if Vedal will be playing game jam games today? getting eepy
he said that was his plan, but he cant do it during this hype train of course
Vedal is probably not nintendo so I assume he won't sue you
so it depends how long he remains hostage to the train xD
But representing the character well is important and if you're selling a Neuro-sama fan game that you don't have the IP rights to that's kinda weird
But I'm not a lawyer lmao so who knows
With 164 hours on the clock he might play all the gamejam games and have time for Detroit become human 
nah not planning to sell, I wanna make a game based on Cerber and Evil's adventure in hell, I'll probably need to talk to both parties but its just a "I wanna do thing" rather than set in stone
how long does hypetrain normally last?
maybe if I had infinite time
If it's a free fan game then it's probably chill
But I'm not the arbiter of right and wrong on this
What's the difference between a silent and a non silent command in Nwero API?
non silent tells Neuro this and she MIGHT react to it
Silent just adds it to her context / memory
or something like that
maybe ask something thru neuro modmail?
if I actually get around to it
need time more than anything
A shameless plug before I go back to checking out some submissions https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213333
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211560
Shameless plug but I don't think anybody seen bad ending in my game yet
I wish I wasn't so poor, I'd add like a minute or smth
didn't play this yet, gonna try it
Vedal and Anny both said: Only donate if you can afford it!
Besides, just means you'd be able to help break the record even further next subathon
or in a future subathon when you can
I've spent my (almost) last money on the bundle so I can't now
this is good and really fun to play, sadly im like really bad at this genre but its still really fun to try to beat
Well, I could, but I'm too lazy to go to ATM xd
Neuro lagging hard
I bought the sub for myself at the beginning of subathon, but I'd like to also add something to that hype train
Vedal: Today I'll play jam games and wait for the subathon to end
<-- Clueless
Also the title of my game fits the current song on stream very well
I would say myself
yeah
we did it wooo
left a comment!
Thank you! ^^
Ironically, the timer could've been 7s and we'd still have lots of subathon time haha
With what it is at rn Vedal & Neuro could probably even play through all the submissions
Damn, gotta implement the neuro sdk
I don't think they'll do that even if there's a month on the timer haha
I really want to watch and see how they play our games, its really fulfilling
holy heck!!!!
OH SHIT HE'S SMILING
Second gamejam next week?
I'm trying to buy 5 subs but twitch isn't loading payment T~T
true, I'm already super happy couple of people played my game and liked it but I would be ultra happy if vedal showed it off on stream
omg finally, it was like 10 mins and the moment I complained it finally loaded
Hell yeah 
I'm also really curious how neuro would fare in the tactics-like games
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213059
plugging my game again cause vedal overtook my position in most rated
Already have it downloaded to play next
It's really cute, you'd enjoy it 
I'm gonna play it in a second
can anyone explain how we didn't get "Most dedicated fanbase" award?
rigged
Shameless Plug
https://ishinada.itch.io/neuro-wars
Neuro grand strategy world conquest game when 
The Dragoon honestly deserved it with what happened to Doki
Now it's the Swarm's turn to shine
I don't think Vedal planned that far tbh, he didn't even plan to get to 100K 
vedal was aiming for 50k, 100k was a joke goal
last year it was like 30+k iirc
meanwhile sub count at 141k
ikr
And he gets 50% of that iirc, 50% goes to twitch right
ah
there's also watered down sub prices from different countries
And maybe income taxes and whatnot
all we can say for sure, its more than 140k usd
That's still a massive amount of money though tbh
Neuro anime happening anytime soon
I just think of it as number of subs times 2 dollars
I paid about 20 euros for 5 subs rn
yea, but there's countries where its like 2$ per sub
Haven't played this one yet
well, vedal has now time to play every game jam game, right? 
its a tile based tactics game playable on browser
bruh, I'm not reading all of that
hahaha
We all have the time to add the Neuro SDK even
Yeah, just remember that you can move while you have energy (before shooting) and to press the back button when switching units, so that you don't kill them by accident 
time for game jam 3
I really hope he does one for Evil's birthday too on March
if he does that, I'll form a 10 person+ team and make a way better game than this one
current game had 4 team members
Keep in mind that with big teams you need to have people dedicated to management
And best of luck 
Vedal uploads abandoned archive as his submission
Game jam 4: Abandoned Archive 2 
tbh I run a game studio, and my team is just people who had nothing to do for the new years and are fans of neurosama working in my team haha
Oh wait, do you run an actual game studio? that rocks!! 
yea
I was listening to Neuro streams all the time before I released my game in early access
it was when Neuro was just starting out in 2023 with the first minecraft streams and the ban etc.
Well started out after the OSU stuff I guess
first game I ever released was for first neuro-sama birthday game jam
I joined the fandom around the start of V2
even though i was gamedeving for like few years
No way that's your first game
how the hell... that was so good and made only in 3 days
Still extremely impressive
well, i have few incomplete projects, because i always overscope xD
yea that happens
well uhh yeah about that statement
I used to always do that too xD overscope and then abandon projects when I looked at the iceberg of todos
hahahahaha
this community is so nice so i've decided to join game jam for the first time last year
Plans hijacked by legendary moment 
abandoned pub's storyline is coming true 
I'm glad I joined the game jam now after witnessing this spectacle
I'm glad to be a prt of this community
you dont need to read all of that, just make sure that heroes dont die in flashback levels(you can replay if they died) and to not block enemy reinforcement tiles[grey tile without a lavalamp] (you can block the enemy bases[grey tile with lava lamp])
valorant be like "there's less than 12 hours left, there shouldn't be that many more free subs to give"
LOL
Honestly I haven't done jams in ages because of bad experiences with them and working on a long term project
But then I decided to do the Neurojam last year because Neuro is the best and it was amazing
still can't believe it ranked as high as it did
15000 subs later 
Valorant checking their bank account be like 
what happened to money
id actually love to know how much money valorant had to spend across all of twitch during this event
you totally deserved it!
oh yeah, there are sure to be surprised XD
Honestly with both entries I got kinda carried by my teammates too
Either game wouldn't have been nearly as good without composer's input and music in the first jam and artist in this jam. Like the sky turning red over time which was their suggestion 
what did he say about game jam?
Neuro said something about gamejam and Vedal said it's already over lul
Ah the game jam is about to start, anyone wanna team up? lmao
Time for round #2 
he planned to play game jam games today
well
it kinda failed
We all team up with Neuro and become a AAA studio 
wait theres another gamejam????
no
oh
Nah, Neuro just hallucinated again
bet 
oh yeah, it's new year and there will be GMTK game jam again
we cant be an AAA Studio
I would be ready for another game jam. Got so many good ideas after this one ended... 🙄
Our games are actually good
Neuro is the story writer and we all just try to make sense of what she says
TRUE 
lmao 
Honestly I had the idea of turning the Koko & Neuro minecraft stream with them fighting Vedal into a story game
totally works for epic lore
Final showdown on Vedal's tower

But probably won't happen... unless...
I'd like to help, but my programming is level 99 but only in the scratch engine
like, if you ask me to make an rts in scratch i can do it, but if you ask me to make something move in another engine, i will disappear for a year to learn it
We just make games in every possible engine 
all the skill points are in one skill
this
Also another reason why we cant be a AAA studio
we dont spend millions of money to make negative profit
How big can an indie studio be before it's difficult to consider it indie?
Surely 30k people is fine
such as the game dev journey to be a hermit when transfering to a new engine or language
True
we're good, seems like a small number to me
indie games have at most 10...
We broke one record, we can break another lmao
largest indie studio 
HES GONNA PLAY THE GAMES
I mean, technically Mihoyo is an indie company and the games they make are indie, and they have 1000 workers hhaa
Mihoyo counts as indie?
i refuse to believe mihoyo is indie
wait actually that's kinda dope, I was planning on starting my own someday
yea, they have no investors, that's why they do whatever they want most of the time
Oh I see
hmm, would we still count as an indie if the swarm becomes our main investors? 
go for it
Gacha games are a good way to not need investors I guess
as long as you're not answerable to shareholders (as in they make every important decision for you), it still counts imo
live services
doesn't have to be gacha
Funded by VedalAI
I'm just saving money rn to form an LLC
I'm just gonna cover my bases here just in case 
oh wait I should do the same
My heart couldn't take it lol
Vedal just does something like the holo indie out of nowhere 
seeing my game get bugged on stream would be a fate worse than death 
Same xD
Same²
ngl, smart move
free advertising and games for content
i tuned out for a while, is he gonna play games today?
Yeah, after a food-break
ah gotcha 👍
Some of them at least
can someone tell me if "Invincibility" option is broken for u in my game? Cuz I'm pretty sure it worked when I tested it, but now my friend tells me it don't
He could play like an hour per game every day and still have enough time
Barely but yeah lmao
well.. some of them arent really worth playing lmao
But would that make good content?
It would probably make better content once more games have the SDK implemented
I really want to see Neuro play all our games
Mine is not either
Which is why I'm planning to add a whole new game mode
if you want a challenge, you can try to make it work 
I built my game around it, but the information about how Neuro would handle specific things are so scarce that I'm honestly worried I can't pull it off properly
same ngl
Though I do get why Vedal is refusing to share that stuff lol
cuz I don't make turn based games so this is a first for me 
Same
I could add a mode where she controls boss attacks

that's be cool to see
I always went in like I'm gonna make a real time action game for the jam and later implement a turn based mode for Neuro
Shouldn't take tooooo much effort, right? 
Im gonna try to figure out how to add multiplayer in this
I've done multiplayer games before, but only through steam
cuz they make things easy to implement
I think unity has made it a lot easier now? I don't remember since it was 4 years ago when I attempted it
I think my Discord app got some damage from the gift world record moment, every once in a while it just sends me back in my DMs
No developer steam account...
I want to make a multiplayer game but I don't know if I wanna pay the 100€ dollar fee just to make a multiplayer game nobody will play
I made it in a different account 
the way me and a friend did it was that we just hosted it in our system without even publishing the game. it shows up as space wars but trust that it's actually your game 
In your system?
I meant through a laptop
for testing
Oh I see
Yeah and if you expect a small player base you could just host it on a small online server
To be fair, my plan for now is probably to make and release whatever multiplayer concept I have as a single player game and see if people are interested in playing in multiplayer
That way, I'll be sure I can host servers for a reason
it'll also be easier to do singleplayers game lmao
Which engine?
Local multiplayer is also a possibility
so we set up 2 laptops to test the multiplayer part of the game, I forgot what we used to handle the async events but I believe it was photon? the game we tried to make was a multiplayer horror game but the game idea got scraped after awhile
Whichever I feel like using tbh
So far, I have Unity, Godot, LOVE2D or SFML in mind
Two of which are just frameworks, not game engines
And I don't know Godot
But apparently if I know Python, I know GDScript so that shouldn't be too hard
Do not use sfml
At that point you'd be better using the sdl2 which I don't recommend (for an actual game) either
I find SFML better than SDL2 tbh
But yeah, both are masochism options
But I believe being a masochist is part of being a game dev 
SDL2 is more of a raw lib used to make engines, like for example the pygame engine is made with SDL2
what am I playing right now 
LOVE2D is also made on SDL2
Best game is what it is
But the SFML has somewhat of a bad code history and is locked in C++98 iirc, so sfml isn't something I can recommend
you are playing absolute cinema
I hope vedal plays this
Huh, never heard of this
Perfection. I love this game 
Does he know?
why the fuck is the timer so high
Yeah, my point is, for an actual game, use something more usual

he did? vod time?
Lmao
they broke the world record
Vedal987 beat the twitch record for hype train
Anny and Oilers saved the subathon
Something about Anny hyping up the Swarm
nothing big, just beating records
THERES 100000 MORE SUBS?
There was like 80+k subs in 2 hours
Above average Neuro stream
what the fuck

yes, we get abandoned archive bois
You missed the legendary moment
We also beat the Hype Train record 
its 7 am I JUST woke up
Channel literally goes down in twitch history haha
SEA I see
Good morning 
indeedo burrito
i fell asleep to the sound of the stream tho
Oh yeah good news as well Vedal said he's playing Gamejam games later
In case your morning wasn't good enough
would you like to know about this legendary moment?
On the main french dev discord we have a game engine dev who always advice against using the SFML
Those 275 remaining hours would nearly be one hour per submitted game jam game... There are 279 submitted ones...
Huh
nah seriously tho what the fuck
That was indeed legendary
Anny
My game is like 15 mins long so is cool
wild shit
Yes, and I put a warning on mine
seeing my buggy game on stream is a fate worse than death
I just hope Vedal won't encounter the super rare softlock in my game lmao
She just somehow started hypetrain and we went for goddamn world record
Surely 
Many games are only like a minute which is kinda good in a way but not in another 😉
If Vedal gets the crash that can randomly happen in my game on stream, I'm defenestrating myself

i need to ask since im not sure, how long did it take for you guys to finish my game?
I didnt finish it
which is your game? (free plug)
My game is like 2 mins long if u don't die and u literally can turn on invincibility in the settings
Same 🤝
this one https://ishinada.itch.io/neuro-wars
Didn't finish it
36 hours for a buggy game
best I can offer
And another tab open
add this, trust
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213213
I think I already did
Honestly the only reason is that I can't force myself to sit for that much without any sounds, and also I've got other games to rate
Any chance you can fix it before he plays?
i think i already played that, the time travel one where you fight both versions in time
Nope because we can't update our games for now
I got to a late level but ended up stopping because I wanted to try out other jam games
Evil Camila and Anny are goated units though
Welp 
I hope I'll rate at least 100 games till the end of rating week but I'll see how it goes
Unless he plays mine after the voting phase
that's the one
This one is really neat
I recommend it
Liked it a bunch
80000 subs in 2 hours at 25000 viewers 3.2 subs per person
still have a lot to go through
rip, gluck
I think I'm just gonna do some very stupid bug fix like
if path doesn't exist then delete yourself end
We had like 46k viewers at peak I think
do we even have any unsubbed community members anymore?
is it possible to update your game after the voting period (small QoL fixes/features) or should we keep it as it was
peak
its fine, sounds is needed for the mood and is used to feel things. i just havent unlocked that tech tree yet
Also it was like 85k subs
If bad case
not a bad case

A god amongst men
I kneel 🧎♂️
It's fine, honestly sounds tooi the most time of making my game
I think we got more subs than unsubs lmao
Plugging Girl, Plugging Girl 🎵
Yea u can update it later
And u can work on it already now if u want to
Just don't publish that updated version for ppl to rate it instead submitted one
watashi wa kyou mo plug shiteimasu
though someone offered to help with the music/sounds, but im not sure how to contact them
Welp this aged terribly 
Ngl we all felt that way
Nobody believed in this outcome 10 hours ago to be fair lmao
I think just taking some ncs music would work in your case
who the fuck can predict that tbf
i honestly dont know which is good, im never good with that stuff
I try to team up with composers because I'd rather not do music myself (and getting copyright free music works too but ehh)
Like how did we go from struggling to keep the subathon alive and fighting z goddamn wheel to breaking a Twitch record
I mean free music from online is still better than silence
anny knows witchcraft
Totally true. But having something custom is the best usually 
im still wondering how that happens
Anny put a few people into homelessness at this point
Yeah nobody can
The Materia Collective in the corner:
8th lambo money

Did he mean games or did he mean web games only
No clue
he used virtual machine last year
so he possibly can
That was after the subathon no?
yeah
iirc last year he did webgames for the first batch of games during the subathon and a VM for after the subathon
Yeah
I don't think he stated that
but if it's right away, it'll be web games cause he won't need to download (?)
most likely
To be fair, he has a bit of time to download all the games this year
Vaza's game Evil's Malice deserves to be on Stream too 
True
Literally most of games here are like that xd
yeah 
Windows Defender saw me compile my game and still decided to flag it as a virus 3 times
Lmao

And I mean 3 times in a row, not 3 attempts
It marked most if not all games as "severe threats" for me, and some I couldn't even download
i think those games deserve to be played on stream 
Yes, neurosoda game needs to be played on stream
what's that?
Btw anyone got a sheet with all the games so I could easily go and play them all in order?
itch.io's app has a system
will do that then
that lets you play games in a more controlled environment
Or do I have to make one for myself
so they cant nut malware all over your files
if the game is malware
its not completely isolated
Erm
but its better than nothing
it makes downloading and uninstaling games more convenient and makes it safer with sandbox mode
^ that yeah what he said
Is it like a virtual machine?
That sounds nice, I'll get it when I continue rating games
I remember seeing people talking about the voting phase being extended, did that happen last year?
similar, but instead of having a whole new PC within a PC, its more like, it runs on your PC but its access to your PC is heavily penned
oh yeah
vedal has to release abandoned archive now doesnt he
Huh
It'd be nice of it happens again because that'd allow me to play all games without worrying about my laptop exploding
Responding to this
he is deadass 50k subs higher than the abandoned archive subgoal
He literally didn't know what to do because he hadn't planned any subgoals lmao
yeah, I would also like that to happen
yeah, he was so stunlocked during this whole segment
yeah thats wild as fuck honestly tbf
Honestly, I wanna believe it's gonna happen because 280 games is just A LOT for a week
top female streamer on twitch honestly
Got it, thanks
also seeing how much valorant gifted after being vehemently hated on by neuro
hilarious shit
did valorant sign a sponsorship deal with vedal?
im so confused
Vedal after the legendary hype train ended:
"So yeah big thank you to Valorant for gifting so much, though they're not following me for some reason, not sure what's up with that"

If you're actually asking though it's part of an event they did where they gift extra every time a viewer gift subs 5 or more
are they just gifting subs as advertising/marketing?
Which was just ending
That event was literally ending lmao, this couldn't have happened at any other time
oh did this happen for everyone on twitch?
I agree 
that's a collaboration of Twitch with Valorant, so yeah, all across twitch
ah that makes sense
it makes me happy that neuro continually insulted valorant then
No it's just that Valorant is making like sale on twitch
If you buy 5 or more subs they pay for 30% or smth
So like u buy only 4 and they add 1
Also this doesn't include like 5k or smth from previous week