2024-game-jam

[winter aurora]

probably but rn its rest time

[misty tree]

i feel bad that ellie and layna kinda just hand you their data

[waxen wasp]

Our audio team made 3 whole ass songs and i could only put in 1 and a half .
I feel bad

[hoary cargo]

I only got 1 out of 3 - 5 levels in

[past meadow]

Well, all I can say is that I recommend playing our game Abandoned Pub

[misty tree]

i even had a neurodog sprite put in and i didnt get to make any content where you test drive him

[hoary cargo]

Oh damn, yea I get that xD

[lavish escarp]

@south hazel holy shit you killed boss using the enemy turret AI cuz you ran out of ammo

[south hazel]

link?

[lavish escarp]

wildly unexpected

[past meadow]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213265

[misty tree]

sort by popular and youll find it right at the top

[waxen wasp]

Atleast i put in our main song, which we're considering releasing on youtube cuz it fucking slaps

[south hazel]

friendly fire

[lavish escarp]

had just enough ammo to make it to the boss only to not have the ammo to kill the boss so you kill it using the enemy turret top shit

[south hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/transitions-kinemaster-black-guy-suit-tiktok-gif-25279479

[lavish escarp]

yeah i enabled friendly fire for the enemies so you can lead their fire into each other

[hoary cargo]

I'd always upload the soundtrack somewhere, there are always bound to be people enjoying it enough to wanna get it

[lavish escarp]

to encourage people to roll through the bullets like in the thumbnail

(shameless plug)

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830

[misty tree]

i wonder how many other people ended up using the swarm sprites i had made

they were fantastic for the theme

[hoary cargo]

Since everyone is plugging their games....
Be the first to rate it!

fuck

wrong link

[misty tree]

lol

[hoary cargo]

ehem
Since everyone is plugging their games....
Be the first to rate it!
https://alexsto.itch.io/fragments-of-humanity

Gotta make better cover art for it at some point

[waxen wasp]

Slightly ashamed plug
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213324

[waxen trail]

This game's really cute

[waxen wasp]

Thanks

[hoary cargo]

I ain't ashamed of plugging mine until someone actually rates it

[waxen trail]

Also @potent stirrup played your game!! Loved the pixelart

[lavish escarp]

where kotgedev game

[buoyant flower]

hint hint - plug your game! 😄

[potent stirrup]

Was goin to comment that these nwero game jams have been the single most helpful advertisement to my nwero RPG sprites

but err I guess I can plug our team's game again https://kotgedev.itch.io/life-dream-memory

[buoyant flower]

Thanks for this, by the way!

[hoary cargo]

Next time I'm hiring an actual artist and not just slap programmer art on my cover

[waxen trail]

Yeah Kotge is the GOAT, I wouldn't have done nearly as well last jam if it wasn't for these fantastic sprites

[potent stirrup]

I probably should update them at some point tho made them more then a year and half ago from promote's request and they're still my most succesfull sprite set

[lavish escarp]

TIL neuro covered TUYU

[potent stirrup]

iirc covers in that game have been made by the team

[waxen wasp]

TUYU?

[rotund rampart]

This one is cool

[waxen wasp]

Ye, we made everything ourselves

The neuro voice is done by superbox and wispers

[lavish escarp]

TUYU is a japanese band

[rotund rampart]

Are you guys like a group of friends who went to sound school together or something, so uncommon to see a majority audio group in a jam

[lavish escarp]

kuraberarekko

kuraberarekko tooku ni shitteru yo

ano ko yori somethingsomething

[waxen wasp]

Oh you mean on minigame 2?
I got those samples from superbox, its from their RVC training data

[lavish escarp]

its a song on the gigavedal laptop

[misty tree]

well its been fun but its time for me to sleep again

[tame rapids]

time to play all of recommended games

[misty tree]

have fun guys

[agile nymph]

[rotund rampart]

No, stay up and make games

[waxen wasp]

We're kinda friends, we all hang out in #programming

[rotund rampart]

Ah I see

[waxen trail]

Sleep well!!

[fleet goblet]

btw what did you guys use for planning during the game jam

[waxen wasp]

We threw ideas at the wall and then did a poll

[mint ice]

notepad

[waxen trail]

Trusty .txt list of todos

[lament ermine]

we found a manager

[rocky glen]

i lit a candle and hope for good

[lament ermine]

they made a trello board

[potent stirrup]

google sheet's new table feature was pretty helpful

[lament ermine]

we didn't use it that much, most of our planning was just vc

[fleet goblet]

how do you even plan on notepad

[lavish escarp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd9Xxs-HiEM

[lavish escarp]

type shit out

[past meadow]

Thanks, we had a pretty big team, and everyone did his best to deliver a fun game

[mint ice]

scrolling 🙂

[waxen wasp]

Thats probably where they got the samples from ye

[buoyant flower]

Single person lucklily does not require much planning
day 1: did nothing, was intending to sit this one out.
day 2: had concrete idea, convinced myself to implement it. queue internal screaming due to unanticipated weird behaviour
day 3: feature freeze, polish up whatever was ready, fix a few bugs, add a few more levels.

[misty tree]

What is planning?

[lavish escarp]

i recognised all of the covers but that one caught me off guard lol

[misty tree]

I basically winged it the whole way based on what I had and what felt like it would get done in time

[mint ice]

as soon as I had a feasible idea I just winged it lol

[lavish escarp]

36mb dawg

i mean

[waxen wasp]

None of the minigame 2 audio had the music, so it weird to hear it with the music.

[lavish escarp]

this tho honestly, solo dev just means i dont need to run shit by anyone

you caught my favourite lol

brick by boring brick was there

[lament ermine]

[lavish escarp]

i prefer evil's version to the original

[lavish escarp]

if 2d : polygon collider in unity

top shit

my saviour

[south hazel]

[lavish escarp]

legitimately let me generate the advanced collider geometry needed for my level design

one click

top shit

[mint ice]

collision from mesh is the best

[waxen wasp]

Our game's collision is all just python code.
It does the job okay, most of the time

[misty tree]

First two days I built tons of foundation and the third day I had to actually make all the rooms and dialogue and everything cuz I realized I'd run out of time if I didnt just go for it

[lavish escarp]

in 3d

2d is different like if its for a sprite

[mint ice]

idk why but 3d is easier for me

i can make a low poly mesh faster than a 2d sprite...

[lavish escarp]

i would have an aneurysm trying to animate a 3d model in time

[lament ermine]

our original concept, got downsized by 90%

[lavish escarp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1316090318726234122/1322513931960586271/Nwero_GameJelly_-_SampleScene_-_Windows_Mac_Linux_-_Unity_2022.3.34f1___DX11__2024-12-28_18-37-33.mp4?ex=67751b14&is=6773c994&hm=5734de9a9abbf1d3f3f4e4ac12efdc24c6c6e759a670a3b5874e4056e9ac2155&

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEfTS_VrL5U

[lavish escarp]

jesus fuck

[fleet goblet]

can we get that as a png/pdf export?

[south hazel]

psd export better

[past meadow]

Can you do that in Miro?

[fleet goblet]

idk, you check

i've never used miro

[lavish escarp]

insanity tho lmfao

i wish i had the time to build out the story tho

i spent most of my time on the mechanics and level design

[buoyant flower]

Cursed fact, the cookie munching noises in my game are recorded by me matching the animation, overlaid with a few audio effects.

[lavish escarp]

and trying to make sure the game wasnt unplayably difficult for most people while being challenging

[south hazel]

@warm tundra oh wow u included the Web download too, thats very generous of ya

[waxen wasp]

Oh ye, i think we never mentioned this, but its all just python code
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213324
Its all python? 🧑‍🚀
Always has been

Our 3D models? Literaly 100's of numpy files with thousands of numbers

[past meadow]

You need a premium plan to export anything above 1080p, I can make a screenshot with higher resolution 💀
Pdf just combines all the separate notes and blocks in to a book of pages, no memes

[buoyant flower]

That is gloriously cursed.

[south hazel]

@past meadow wdym carbonate

[waxen trail]

Already rated 10 entries 265 to go

[lavish escarp]

theres a drink carbonator

bottom right

[past meadow]

There is a "carbonator" that carbonates your drink, it's below the book on the map

[south hazel]

oh

one sec

[past meadow]

That’s a lot of games

[lavish escarp]

i started gaming when the jam ended

been taking it chill tho

[past meadow]

We might need our whole team of 12 people playing, to rate all of them

[viscid fable]

what the fox doing on the beach

[tame rapids]

I barely rated all of 121 games in last game jam, how am i supposed to play double that amount

[past meadow]

[fringe sail]

I've only played 3 so far lol. Spent a few hours trying to get webgl 2 to work (to no success, hardware limitation) so I could play kotgedev's game

[cunning inlet]

I'm glad you had a great time ^^

[fringe sail]

I also can't play vedals

[white holly]

yeah, I do. Why?

here you go https://drive.google.com/file/d/1G9boop8JIFogM5bfXGwImPeux94BBeIQ/view?usp=sharing

[lavish escarp]

damn

came in clutch

@white holly the guy deleted his shit and was trying to get it reuploaded but they had no clue if it's the same one

[cunning inlet]

Now that it's morning in EU (and I woke up), I'll hopefully catch some more eyes upon my game by posting the link again. So far people thought it was amazing, so make sure to add it to your lists ^^
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213257

[waxen trail]

This game is fantastic, I recommend it

@misty tree loved your game, the enemy design is really good and the story twist at the end was great too

[earnest wind]

816 ratings so far, thats an average of 2 rating per submission so far

About 1% of possible amount of votes

[tame rapids]

i suppose a lot of people are still winding down after game jam, it was quite tiring after all

[earnest wind]

Yeah its understandable, same for me. rated on a few games myself for now

[rocky glen]

i slept like 11h, it' almost 1pm here lol

[tame rapids]

yeah, i also need to repair my sleep schedule

[past meadow]

Yeah, our team plans to do a “game-along” on Jan 2, and rate as many of them as we can

[tame rapids]

it would be nice if rating would be extended to two weeks total or something

[lavish escarp]

nah i think 1 week is enough personally

[earnest wind]

I feel like one week is plenty but then again it's my first jam so what do I know haha

[lament ermine]

the faster we can update our game the better

[waxen trail]

I agree, since people are also integrating the API. I liked when it was very long last time so I had time to play everything

[tame rapids]

mhm, everyone's game deserves to be played at least once. After all, everyone put quite the effort into making their own games

[lament ermine]

Alex might increase rating period if it's really necessary

[rotund rampart]

I try my best to play em all

[cunning inlet]

My plan is to rest and catch up on everything I missed out on during the jam rn (and celebrate new year), 2nd half of 1st or jan 2nd I'll start trouncing through a lot of the various games and see what people cooked

[lament ermine]

I will be busy soon, so I already rated 16 or something games

[rotund rampart]

I did about 20 shorter ones

[cunning inlet]

I've already got 5 ratings on my game which is pretty good considering the average is 2 rn, a much better pace than having to beg for votes at the end last time just so I don't get penalized

[lament ermine]

sadge, no one rated ours yet (cli is unintuitive)

[rotund rampart]

What penalty

[rotund rampart]

Which one

[lavish escarp]

wait i thought i did

[waxen trail]

Totally!! There's also a lot of hidden gems people might miss otherwise

[fleet goblet]

If vedals subathon ends before the end of the rating period, I'll extend the rating period until vedal ends his break

[winter aurora]

yes they did I think ? (last time I check there was 4)

no its not here

[lament ermine]

https://voidbois.itch.io/troubleshooting

[lament ermine]

wait what

[waxen trail]

Yay! ratings extended for eternity

[winter aurora]

bottom right. we got 4

[lament ermine]

have I been lying all this time without knowing it

sorry guys

[lavish escarp]

oh lmfao

[cunning inlet]

last year if your game had a less than average amount of ratings, your game score would get like a 0.95x multiplier penalty or so, some complex math formula based on how many less ratings than average your game had

I barely came out without a penalty last time lmao

[rotund rampart]

Oh this one, its on my to playlist when I have time cause it seemed like a long one

[lament ermine]

it's not long, it's maybe like 10 minutes

[rotund rampart]

Oh, then I’ll play it soon

I’ll leave a comment when I do

[lament ermine]

(much shorter if you know how)

[turbid saddle]

yo, any one here who wants their game to be checked out? There's so many that I don't know which ones to play, so send them my way 👍

[rotund rampart]

Been abit, shameless plug again

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213059

[fringe star]

name

[winter aurora]

adjustment = sqrt(min(median, votes_received) / median) (at least from a thread of a year ago)

[lament ermine]

I played this game, so cute!

[waxen trail]

Yeah! I made a game where you can fight an ermshark and recruit vedal

https://superobot1.itch.io/sea-of-memories

[sour horizon]

Shameless plug time? Shameless plug time: https://shardhash.itch.io/branching-paths

[waxen trail]

Shard's game is awesome, I recommend it

[lavish escarp]

condom game return

[turbid saddle]

thank ya, gonna check these out yo!

[rotund rampart]

Thank you! There’s quite a few depressing stories due to the theme, I wanted to make something light and fluffy haha

[sour horizon]

yeah I was just about to redraw that lol

[rotund rampart]

My intuitive response was to make a horror game and then I saw alot of people were doing dystopian stuff

So I went with happy

[waxen trail]

I had a really unique turn based game idea at first where you dig up tiles and shoot incoming drones but I didn't love it

Discarded it for an idea I loved and will do it again in a heartbeat

[lavish escarp]

omg i love pinoy street

puuuuuuuuuuuutanginamo

[rotund rampart]

Bobo

[lavish escarp]

pinoy ka ba

[fringe star]

this is awesome

[waxen trail]

Glad you liked it really happy with how it turned out

[past meadow]

Made our board public for viewing, it's mostly in Russian, but we tried to convey all the ideas visually anyway, so you might find it fun to explore
https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVL78WvRk=/?share_link_id=494634236538

[lament ermine]

holy

[past meadow]

That is an idea for a FNAF-like game about Staz

[lament ermine]

we were making a fnaf-like game in the start too

lmfao

[fringe sail]

The list of games I can't play grows ever longer. Classic.

Can't play:
Vedal's
Kotgedev's
Neuro tactics
Neurotopia
Surviwan
Treasures of the sands
Unhando

I was looking forward to playing these more than most of the other games

[past meadow]

I posted this logo in #1194088101627297924 before, I placed in near overcooked to convey that this gameplay loop can be apply to many things outside of cooking, like PC building

[mighty solstice]

HOW

😿

[past meadow]

Why is it you can't play?

[lament ermine]

shameless plugs

[mighty solstice]

i got 30 downloads and one rate

😦

[lament ermine]

oh, non-browser games is hard mode

[past meadow]

I am professional shameless plugger

[mighty solstice]

how make a browser game ? i already exported my game in html but dont know how integrate it to browser

[lament ermine]

bro your game is literally #1 in popularity rn, it plugs itself

[cerulean jetty]

the export has an index.html, right?

[lament ermine]

just tick a checkmark [] this is a browser game

[fringe sail]

Vedal's and kotgedev's don't have a windows download, and use webgl 2 which I can't run due to hardware limitations.

Surviwan is the same but with windows download and opengl2

The rest just don't start up for me, so no clue

[past meadow]

We gave it a good kick-boost by posting all the unused assets
They look so good, so sad we couldn't add them in time

[past meadow]

[lament ermine]

just like last time

[snow merlin]

Wow, 30 ratings? That's like 10x what I got so far. I suspect that I really hurt my chance to get ratings by not being more direct with my neuro-references... https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211818

[past meadow]

[fringe sail]

Another I plan to try. Hopefully it works.

Feelin' lucky punk?

[mighty solstice]

yes

[lament ermine]

we managed to put most of the art into the game

more worried that people will never see it because cli unintuitive

[cerulean jetty]

upload to itch and check that it's a browser version.

That is all.

[sour horizon]

Don't mind me, I'm just testing if itch has updated the preview
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213260

[mighty solstice]

the zip file ?

[snow merlin]

I don't really have much expectations for score though, being a single dev without any custom art. I'm just happy I managed to cross the finish line. 🙂

[waxen trail]

HOLY cover art D:

[cerulean jetty]

yap. zip it and ship it.

[lament ermine]

true, getting the game done in and of itself is a miracle

[fringe sail]

Welp, no windows download.

[fringe star]

me too, dont really expect stuff like abandoned pub from soloist in 3 days

[waxen trail]

Yeah, just getting a game done in 72 hours is something I said I feel like weeklong jams are too much and raise the bar but I ended up being too ambitious this jam anyway lol

[fringe sail]

Good thing I can't rate games. I didn't participate

[sour horizon]

might be too serious, but eh, I have to settle with something

[waxen trail]

It's honestly cool and unique imo, I think storygames can benefit from cover art like this. That being said I did love the art in your game so that could work too

[snow merlin]

Honestly, I've found week-long jam's too be much less stressful. I managed to take more breaks, plan better and bounce less between things. I really struggled getting things outside my wheelhouse done in just 72 hours.

[fringe star]

that shit was awesome dude, gameplay was fun and the art is great, its also easy to pick up, play, put down and comeback another time

[umbral adder]

You have unlocked new role

[mighty solstice]

YES

[fringe star]

wat does this mean, im new here

[past meadow]

If you can't play our game Abandoned Pub, I can send you a desktop build

[rotund rampart]

What happened to the nixie clock

[waxen trail]

True, during weeklong jams you can actually work and plan ahead and maybe crunch at the very end, here's it a sprint all the way through D:

[waxen trail]

Yippie I kinda wanted to add even more events and characters, might add a couple events for the Neuro integration and/or post jam version

[lavish escarp]

im glad its just 72 hours personally

i crunch anyway

[mighty solstice]

AH

[lavish escarp]

so everyone crunching is a vibe

[fringe star]

OH WOW I CAN SEND LINKS NOW, i think

[snow merlin]

Yeah. In a way, it's kinda comforting. The top tier entries are on a whole other level, with large multi-talent teams, so I don't feel the pressure to compare myself to them. 🙂

[lavish escarp]

i can send links too (shameless plug) https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830

[rotund rampart]

You gan plug now

[fringe star]

https://ishinada.itch.io/neuro-wars
heres my work

[sour horizon]

its like pokemon, it evolved into Cathode Tube Schematics

[waxen trail]

I think crunching is a symptom of bad time management imo, but, I had to crunch the last night this jam because I pivoted to a different idea mid day 1

[fringe star]

i slept a total of 8 hours for it

[waxen trail]

CHECKING IT OUT

[fringe sail]

Thanks, I'll check that out. The ones I managed to play are neuro wars, untitled tower defense (on my phone) and super pinball rouge, so there's a good chance my PC is too crap

[lavish escarp]

oh no i was crunching the whole time because i was trying to hit as much of the scope of my game as i could while having fun gameplay

[rotund rampart]

I was a single programmer and writer and my scope was 3 mini games, a overworld and a cutscene system, there was no time for breaks haha

[lavish escarp]

day 1 was basic mechanics
day 2 was level design/building
day 3 was story integration and balancing

i was fucking locked in all 3 days

[waxen trail]

You know, fair ambition is a double edged sword, I suffered at its blade this jam too

[lavish escarp]

i was at my grandma's taking care of her cuz she had a tumour removed from her neck and im going to hell for this but i deadass got someone else to come over and cook the meals so i would only need to reheat them for her

also had a lot of delivery

[waxen trail]

Hope she has a swift and easy recovery!!

[mighty solstice]

Day 1 game mechanic
Day 2 Easter
Day 3 transition and polishing

[lavish escarp]

yeah it was remarkably uneventful

she barely needed me there

[fringe star]

i think i wasted some time for me
1st day was writing, concepts, and mechanics
2nd day was making the level editor to make levels easily, and make levels
3rd day was all spent on play testing and scrap polishing

[lavish escarp]

i stayed there for 2 weeks anyway just to be sure tho

[rotund rampart]

I don’t think you did, personally, 1/3 of your time should always be pre-production

[lavish escarp]

by 1 week after surgery aside from some swelling she was doin great

[rotund rampart]

If its a 3 day jam 1st day on preproduction

[lavish escarp]

i think the entire process of my game dev is recorded here

[fringe star]

i think its the third day that got wasted personally

[snow merlin]

I think crunch in a gamejam is very different from crunch in a work situation. You really have so little time with a hard deadline and very little time for pivots and unexpected things. It's really hard to plan perfectly under thos circumstances.

[mighty solstice]

oops i forgot

[rotund rampart]

Thus the 1/3 preproduction time haha

[mighty solstice]

Unity ?

[lavish escarp]

yep

[fringe star]

playtesting took hours cuz its strategy heavy

[fringe star]

Rolling Girl

[lavish escarp]

i had to ride the bus for 5-6 hours so i spammed my friends with requests for them to playtest

[waxen trail]

Completely agree. It also feels like a more brutal deadline because it's so short

[snow merlin]

Yeah. That's one of the things I found much harder in a 72 hour jam vs. a week jam. In previous week-jams I've been part of, the first day (and parts of day 0) was really just preprep and planning.

[lavish escarp]

im just glad i decided to put in a webGL version at the end

has been a boon lowering the requirements to play the game

[snow merlin]

I'm glad I made sure I verified I could build web and upload to itch on day 2, so that part was ready and not something I had to panic over in the last minute. Learned that one from previous jams 😆

[lavish escarp]

im glad unity's webGL support is insane too

did not require much change for the webGL build

[fringe sail]

[lavish escarp]

the original was a downloadable zip cuz ive never made a webgame before this

[fringe sail]

I planned to play rolling girl anyway. Will do later

[lavish escarp]

and i realised while trying to download it that like fuck the install process is such a massive bitch

so i made a webGL version on top of the windows version

the windows version does have more content tho technically

[fringe star]

shameless plug, 1 turn speedrun

[rotund rampart]

Yea webgl gets you votes

[lavish escarp]

originally i just didnt want people to not play it out of fears of malware

but thats a happy side effect

[fringe sail]

Yeah, I can't because of webgl 2. If the desktop build uses OpenGL 2 I also won't be able to run it for sure

[waxen trail]

The Vedal artillery is peak

[fringe sail]

Yeah, I played neuro wars first (first to work) didn't play past level 2 tho because evil Amazon started

[snow merlin]

Hmm, haven't really looked into the details of WebGL 1 vs 2. I just choose the compability mode in Godot, verified it worked for me and my mates, and then focused on working on other stuff 😆

[buoyant flower]

How old is your hardware? OpenGL 2 is supported in hardware from 2008 onwards-ish.

[snow merlin]

WebGL 2 isn't the same as OpenGL 2 IIRC, as OpenGL 2 is ancient

[buoyant flower]

True, but he noted he cannot play OpenGL 2 games either.

[snow merlin]

It's just surprising, because a toaster can run OpenGL 2...

[fringe sail]

My PC isn't that old, but I don't remember how old exactly. I think roughly 2016? I got it a couple years ago tho

And to be fair, I kinda just assumed opengl2 was basically the same thing

I'll look into that more later I guess. If I can get it to work I'll be able to play the newest versions of Minecraft which is a nice bonus

[snow merlin]

WebGL 2.0 is based on OpenGL ES 3.0, not OpenGL 2.0; so it's a pretty significant difference in what kind of devices are supported.

WebGL 1.0 is based on OpenGL ES 2.0, so if you couldn't run OpenGL 2.0, you probably wouldn't be able to run WebGL 1.0 either

[buoyant flower]

It requires OpenGL ES 3.0 support, which is guaranteed by OpenGL 4.3 support. GPUs from 2012 onwards should support this.

So uh. Maybe a driver issue?

[snow merlin]

I suspect that as well, or possibly an browser issue

[fringe star]

quick question, is it possible to change the description of the project?

[fringe sail]

Maybe, but I don't have time to look into it right now if I don't want to be squared (late for her waking up)

[waxen trail]

I got with Vedal to the end tile and finished my turn but it didn't finish the mission and then tried to retreat what should have I done instead? D:

And feel free to update the page, updating the game files is the issue imo

[fringe star]

is this mission 1 or 2?

[waxen trail]

Mission 1

[fringe star]

mission 1, bring neuro to the white tile

[waxen trail]

Oh

Thought it was Vedal, misread 💀 my bad

[buoyant flower]

If you use firefox about:support, CTRL+F WebGL provides a lot of info about browser support for WebGL.

[fringe star]

oh, if vedal dies in that level, he cant be used in future levels

[waxen trail]

Somehow that confused me haha
I'll just speedrun it this time

[fringe star]

also you unlock evil at level 3, she can attack multiple times if she successfully kills a target

[snow merlin]

WebGL2 support should be in all major (desktop) browsers by now as well: https://caniuse.com/webgl2

[fringe star]

sidenote, you can target allies, this is intended for evil to kill a low hp ally to be able gain more movement and energy

[cerulean jetty]

Checked 3 games, 2/3 godot. The unity one just crashed in the browser.

[lavish escarp]

which unity game?

Does (shameless plug) https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830
work for you?

[cerulean jetty]

@sage sapphire I left a comment for you.
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3212223

Also guys. Please check the box to let itch put it into fullscreen mode.

[waxen trail]

Will do this right now actually

Thanks for the reminder

[nimble dew]

Something besides the same plugs over and over:
About using existing stuff: Most seem to be using mostly assets and code made for the game jam, right? For me as a programmer with like no art skills that would be an issue. Also it seems kinda cheesy to use existing code but pretty much all are using engines like Unity anyway. For my original idea I was thinking of using the FPS tutorial game as a base that comes with Unity and heavily modify it into a different genre but that kinda seems cheesy but again we are using engine features anyway. During the game jam I struggled because Unity doesn't really have a scrollable text area which is a super basic thing... What do you think about using existing / external stuff?

[charred hamlet]

Little shameless plug for my team's game if people are looking for something to try
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213034

[cerulean jetty]

I mean, that should count as a library. Right?

It was not made explicitly for the jam too.

[waxen trail]

You can use existing code, that's totally okay - but if you create custom code for this jam specifically ahead of time that's kinda cringe and defeats the purpose of the jam

[lavish escarp]

eh, depends on whether its disclosed in the rules whether youre allowed to, rules seem fast and loose here so its nbd

i did everything but the 3 sound effects in my game during jam time tho

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1316090318726234122/1322859588881743893/image.png?ex=67750b7f&is=6773b9ff&hm=3891f72f1af6783bd8334b9bc3b770a13135f8d420b3117b20af390a01d95952&

[nimble dew]

Sure but I'm more talking about using a lot of general stuff compared to those using nothing. As an extreme example one could take a full game and quickly replace some assets to fit the game jam and call that a game jam game...

[winter aurora]

shameless plug. But not for my team game ! (my team's game is TroubleShooting if you want xd)
I was playing unrated game this morning, and I liked this one ! https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211627
it is hard and, if you have no skill like me, take time with a lof of retry

[lavish escarp]

troubleshooting goes hard

oh wait your game is trouble shooting

i havent tried evi's gateway

[winter aurora]

yeah mb, bad sentencing beofere I edited it

[lavish escarp]

@winter aurora
call cerby

hug
call cerby
hug
call cerby
hug

[winter aurora]

[lavish escarp]

yeah people do do that

[winter aurora]

literally added cerby 2h before the end btw.
it broke the "list" cmd bc I wanted to hide cerby on the character list. I accidently wrote != instead of == so it only display cerby

[nimble dew]

Just look at what I made: The Vedal and Neuro model are copied from Sketchfab, I quickly recolored Neuro into Evil, the whole surrounding terrain, plants and such are from the Unity store, the GUI theme as well... It's all disclosed in the Credits.txt but still feels cheesy.

[cerulean jetty]

Also, don't force the game into full screen, just let it be full screen.

[nimble dew]

My first two ideas would have required some kind of inventory and I gave up in the middle of the jam because that was just too much work. But if I would have had an inventory system from a previous project that would have been different...

[lavish escarp]

oh shit so it shouldnt be just cerby??

[waxen trail]

I feel this, for years I struggled with inventory systems until I really had to implement one for a game I was making (not this jam game)

[south hazel]

Abandoned Pub is an absolute cinema now i understand why braza wanted to add another ending

[lavish escarp]

dude abandoned pub had super fun gameplay

story wise and art wise

fucks

yeah

but the gameplay fucks too

underappreciated aspect

[fringe star]

Fuck yeah, and if you fail a mission you can somehow remember what drinks and prep before the customer arrives.

my favorite prep drink is carbonated erm juice

[nimble dew]

That sounds so sus

[lavish escarp]

they fucked the recipe for the lava lamp drink tho

[winter aurora]

yep it should be "anny, vedal, mini"

[lavish escarp]

i kept calling vedal too

i was hoping there was some far off response you could get after you ran out of the first few

[fringe star]

whatya mean?

[winter aurora]

nah sorry. we just wanted to write the copypasta so we made this thing

[fringe star]

if i remeber
get lava lamp from safe, pour gin, blend with tomato and serve i think

[lavish escarp]

in the book

the recipe is different from the in game recipe iirc

either that or im like single digit iq

[waxen trail]

My friend playtesting me and my artist's game got Vedal and two chat members on his boat x"DD cursed run

yes chat is a collection of sniffas and erms

[nimble dew]

Oh another kinda Minesweeper like looking game about digging up old stuff to fit the theme? 😄
The theme really didn't give us much to work with. Either fight or find something old or time travel stuff...

[cerulean jetty]

Sounds accurate.

[waxen trail]

It's not minesweeper! it's more like... resource management and ally collection

[fringe sail]

Thanks! Will test later

[waxen trail]

But yeah the theme was a bit weird this time

[fringe star]

i think you misread and went to the mixer rather than blender

[nimble dew]

These theme was such: "Ah that sounds fine." but when you think about it, it kinda forces a generic backstory on you that you can slap onto everything and everyone kinda has the same story.

[lavish escarp]

either that or i interpreted it as
"blend the mix, and tomato"

as opposed to

"blend the mix and tomato"

or if i was intended to mix them first before blending with the tomato

mildly ambiguous,

not that big a deal tho i fw the game

[torpid bridge]

I tried to make the backstory at least somewhat interesting

[nimble dew]

A lava lamp drink is a great idea. Some ideas and art pieces in this game jam are really good and have a lot of soul so to say.

[lament ermine]

Oh, does it just end with a picture?

no more customers

sadge

but that was fun

[lavish escarp]

man sucks we only got the sadge ending tho

[torpid bridge]

Who has NOT played Memory Lanes and rated it yet

[lavish escarp]

i dont believe i have

plug it baby

[torpid bridge]

https://sealantern.itch.io/memory-lanes

[fringe star]

there was supposed to be a second ending, We may get that second ending once the jam gets unlocked

[past meadow]

Yeah, we couldn't finish the endings, there was supposed to be the choice to leave with Vedal, and you would get this art instead

[nimble dew]

Two things I really should look into because they gave me trouble and limited me are surely character animations and UI stuff like general windows, buttons, scrollable text boxes and things like inventory systems or equipment screens. Having to come up with something like that in such a short game jam as an inexperienced Unity developer is a nightmare time eater and easily a failed project.

[lavish escarp]

does vedal know that its neuro?

[lament ermine]

man, it's #1 for a reason

definitely best game I've played so far

[past meadow]

Not yet, probably would learn about it after the end of the story

[lavish escarp]

damn

also idk how many nukes you hit it with its probably still raining in the UK

[lament ermine]

I didn't miss a single drink :D

[lavish escarp]

i missed one after fucking up and putting too much shit on my desk space

[cunning inlet]

this makes me think of Journey

[lavish escarp]

oh yeah

[lament ermine]

I almost, almost messed up lava lamp because I didn't see the safe until half way through

[cunning inlet]

traveling through a vast desert with your companion(s)

[lavish escarp]

i bought fucking clip studio paint right before the game jam started

i still havent tried it yet

[lament ermine]

XD

[past meadow]

There is a trash bin on the bottom left, didn't include it in the tutorial unfortunately

[lavish escarp]

i gotta get that out of the way

[lavish escarp]

i saw it

i didnt have the time to throw shit away lol

i just put it aside

[past meadow]

Skill issue

[lavish escarp]

fight me ho

[cerulean jetty]

This one is sad. Looks good, but is hardoced for zqsd so basically unplayable in the amount of time that is worth spending on it.
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211422

[lavish escarp]

oof

where is Zqsd common even

[south hazel]

game so good that my recording of it took 40 mins

[south hazel]

i missed a single drink because of the fucking lag spike :((

[lament ermine]

oof

[south hazel]

these blanks in the recording were lagspikes

here we go again

[cerulean jetty]

Bonus: Godot has built-in tools for this exact issue, you can map to the physical location on the keyboard.

[cunning inlet]

I feel awfully sorry to anyone that experiences a lag spike during the DDR section in my game, cuz I couldn't find any easy way to resync everything in case one happens on my engine

[lament ermine]

32 gigs of ram nice

[cunning inlet]

I just hope and pray that everyone who plays it has a smooth time with it

[lament ermine]

the only game I played that ran poorly was the star rail clone

[cerulean jetty]

Ran well for me, but was not my thing.

[torpid bridge]

I don't think anyone ran into any issues with Memory Lanes except maybe the difficulty??? I think??? If you haven't played Medabots, it might be hard.

[fringe star]

im scared and worried, why is mine number 8th in popularity

[torpid bridge]

How do I check popularity

[nimble dew]

In retrospect my game was mostly a basic Unity and particle learning experience, I spent like 12 hours on particle effects. Bad gameplay that would have required too much time to properly plan but the effects turned out nice. Now after the jam I was already thinking about making small games to learn things like character animation and inventory management next.

[torpid bridge]

Wtf people aren't playing Memory Lanes

[south hazel]

i need to go to church then i can play other games

i did play memory lanes for a whole 3 mins before pausing, im gonna play that too later

[torpid bridge]

Not even top 100 wtf

Guys you aren't even giving Memory Lanes a try

[waxen trail]

I tried it!!

[fringe star]

its good tho

[cerulean jetty]

I have 0 clue why people make the game turn into an extra window >.<

[south hazel]

i will play it, cant rate tho

[cerulean jetty]

It feels like Itch is not the right place for a jam like this.

[turbid saddle]

yo, anyone who wants their game to be checked out? Send them my way 👍

[lament ermine]

played A bandoned rchive

it was good

thought the room layout spelling no time was funny

lots of funny things actually

[fringe star]

https://ishinada.itch.io/neuro-wars shameless plug

[lean quarry]

I found it neat because I like Advanced War

[hasty drift]

@fleet goblet the "kisor" game seems to be made uhh quite some time before the jam?

[waxen trail]

I'm still on lvl 5 in the advance wars one

[rocky glen]

https://archi01.itch.io/deaths-ally

[waxen trail]

Classic "submit to every single jam" Itch.io developer

[hasty drift]

the download file is from 26th december 5pm utc

so i highly assume, before the jam entirely made

[cunning inlet]

Here ya go, in case ya missed it ^^
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213257

[hasty drift]

might be decent game but i dont want to rate it if its just thrown in

[lament ermine]

bruh I just killed anny she did nothing but heal herself feels bad man

[hasty drift]

[cunning inlet]

is that cerber?

[lament ermine]

yea

[fleet goblet]

Thanks for letting me know!
For the future please use the "Report submission" button though because I sometimes miss stuff in Discord

[hasty drift]

ah okay, will do

[cunning inlet]

Hell yeah! We're Cerber bros! I added Cerber and Minawan into my game as well xdd

[winter aurora]

(its cerby not minawan btw)

[cunning inlet]

(oh, welp that's awkward then)

[lament ermine]

also das not my game XD

[winter aurora]

tbh this errors happens a lot dw

[past meadow]

Thanks
The idea and the concept was proposed by me, Troobs written all of the story and it turned out very good.
It had 2 endings planned from the beginings, we even made art for it. Unfortunately we couldn't implement it in time
https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1323408878310002790

[cunning inlet]

I've only ever heard the dog to be referred to Minawan, so I just assumed I was right without doing any deeper research xd

[lament ermine]

I just noticed this section

[cunning inlet]

the one without horns is Minawan, the one with horns is Cerby, got it

[winter aurora]

yep !

[fringe star]

i thought you might like this

[hasty drift]

sometimes i wish the rating was up to 10 stars not 5 bc i want to add an extra half star

[torpid bridge]

Holy the amount of GameJams this has been submitted to

Yeah gonna report it

[verbal garnet]

Guys, if I can't upload anything to submission now, but would like to somehow add wasm version for playing in browser, how would I proceed? Create another game and link to it from submission? Lol

[torpid bridge]

Huh I don't see it

[hasty drift]

you can edit your game after the rating period ends

[hasty drift]

probably already taken care of

[verbal garnet]

the point is to make their life easier by providing web version

[torpid bridge]

Yeah this dude literally submitted to every GameJam possible, probably didn't read the rules either

[copper ibex]

lol that is pretty much exactly what is stated is against the rules

as in linking to a "updated" version from your current submission

[verbal garnet]

thats why Im asking, my game sucks though so nobody loses

[sour horizon]

If it's exactly the same version, I guess you could try contacting Alex

[verbal garnet]

ye I just want to build it for web

[hasty drift]

The build process is part of the jam submission, many others also had to cut corners so currently what is uploaded is the final state for the jam

[verbal garnet]

I guess I won't go for a precedent like that, my game is a single 10mb executable so it's not that bad

I also uploaded debug build lol it could be like half of it

[hasty drift]

uploading debug build is a classic

id cringe if people could be able to see my debug.log output

[verbal garnet]

I submitted 4 minutes prior deadline (extended one LOL) so had no time to test if release build would break anything

[hasty drift]

I would love to change the upgrade system in my game and add a thing to the how to play since some people struggle with things i did not except

when testing with others, everyone finished it first try, after submitting, instantly 2 people did game over early lol

[violet surge]

pixie.js for the win

[verbal garnet]

Erm

[rotund rampart]

your game stands out imo, and i'd say its pretty polished too

[fringe star]

cheers to caffeine and food delivery drivers

i kinda went no life mode for 3 days straight

[verbal garnet]

what a determination

[fringe star]

[torpid bridge]

I wonder why people aren't giving attention to the other games that are below 100 in popularity

I think they are pretty solid games

[agile nymph]

Vedals game has a card that is(draw 2 cards) the thing is...you can draw it by drwing 2 cards soo...infinite cards for tutel...(creamy colored lines are those cards)

[winged jay]

Immortality achieved??

[violet surge]

the community finding every single bug (or creating new ones) in vedal's game

[agile nymph]

which game did alex make?

[violet surge]

search for fragmented

[agile nymph]

thats not a bug...tutel just can have infinite power in his own game as a feature...

[turbid saddle]

this one, amazing art too https://alexejhero.itch.io/fragmented

[agile nymph]

thx

[winter aurora]

literally has a version a lot better of our game that we could not upload bc of build taking too long

[violet surge]

[hasty drift]

[verbal garnet]

what are you building? chromuim? lmao

[winter aurora]

last minute changes/fix on unity

[agile nymph]

come to the godot side.... ...you know you want to...

[hoary cargo]

Check out my game! https://gljames24.itch.io/neurosamas-vocal-synth-pipeline

[violet surge]

yes please our cover isn't very clickable
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213213

[waxen trail]

HELL YEAH JAMMERS WE CROSSED 1K RATINGS

[hasty drift]

am rating so hard rn

[waxen trail]

I rated like 13 so far

[hasty drift]

quite some cool games

[past meadow]

If everyone votes it would be 78400

[hasty drift]

rating 100% of games in 1 week is just a daunting trial

[past meadow]

I think we will need this extension regardless of what Vedal does

[quick badger]

https://pinkwolfgames.itch.io/memoneuros Here's my game if you're still interested in suggestions!

[fringe star]

Bet? Jk

[quick badger]

I'm honestly giving it a try but some aren't downloadable unfortunately... Like it just says "no compatible downloads found" in the itch app

[south hazel]

Time to play the game again cus recordings were to bugged with chrome

[past meadow]

Good luck with that

[south hazel]

.

[south hazel]

Thanks

[turbid saddle]

thank ya, checking this out too 💪 🔥

[past meadow]

?

[south hazel]

Just pinpointing where the desktop build is

[quick badger]

Thank you

[lavish escarp]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211830

shameless plug

hours late

[quick badger]

I really liked your game, there needs to be more 2d shooters!!

[lavish escarp]

thamk

[winter aurora]

I think I finished the game

[turbid saddle]

checking this out too, already looks cool 👍

[lavish escarp]

they see me rolling

[signal basalt]

One more to add to the pile if you're still going
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3210632

[cunning inlet]

I feel like Mikaturtle and I are competing to have our gamejam game links posted the most amount of times in this channel lmao

Speaking of which, this sounds like as good of a time as any to add that +1 to my counter
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213257

[edgy ferry]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213353

[charred hamlet]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213034

[violet surge]

did itch go down

I need to rate more

[quick badger]

still working for me

[lament ermine]

it's pretty slow rn

[winter aurora]

do not work for me (edit: just slow)

[violet surge]

[winter aurora]

[violet surge]

itch sabotaging me

[winged hull]

itch a bit slow here but still working

[old adder]

its giving errors here and there but not totally down

[hasty drift]

[lavish escarp]

you post plug shamelessly to have the highest number of links to your game in this channel

i plug my game to piss off @signal monolith

https://tenor.com/view/gus-fring-jumpscare-gus-fring-jumpscare-scary-oby-gif-13022434999806691946

[violet surge]

can I join in

[lavish escarp]

go wild

[turbid saddle]

yo, already reviewed yours, was very cute!

[violet surge]

shameless plug alert ⚠️
https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213213

[hasty drift]

if one wants to help with the rating/game percentage, sort by least rated and rate the games that did not get much attention yet

[worldly wing]

lmao I read through some of the comments on Vedal's game, and I think some of them don't know that it is by him

[violet surge]

you should probably go to the first pinned which shows you all games without any ratings at all

[hasty drift]

well, sorting by least rated, would do the same thing

[violet surge]

I tried it and chose a few but they already had 1-2 ratings so it confused me

[hasty drift]

did you sort "play in browser"?

[violet surge]

oh fair forgot about that

[hasty drift]

teehee

[cerulean jetty]

I rated the lowest ones.

[violet surge]

I have a feeling they're the way they are exactly because it's vedal's

[winter aurora]

btw we reach 1k rating

[worldly wing]

Oh, you mean they made the comments as detailed as possible because of him?
Still, I find it endearing how they seem as if Vedal never actually streamed coding his game.

[hasty drift]

some lower rated games are quite cool

[charred hamlet]

Ah okay! Thank you!

[hasty drift]

nowaying

[river thistle]

Abandoned Pub is honestly top 5 games from this Jam imo

[cunning inlet]

one funny thing I did in my game was increase player's attack damage if they die enough times to the final boss

that way if someone's really bad and keep dying, they will eventually have an easier time

this was a decision I made based on last year's submission when people said the boss was overly hard xd

[winter aurora]

tbh that a good idea. I remeber last year boss being hard & I died 3-5 time this time (skill issue mostly)

[cunning inlet]

normally it's sword=1 and harpoon=6 damage (boss has 100 health)

if you die 5 times, sword=choose(1,2) dmg and harpoon=8 dmg
and if you die 15+ times, sword=2 and harpoon=10 dmg

[hasty drift]

Is it allowed to change the Details - Description of your game now? I think it is but I just want to double check. Want to add a hint

[cunning inlet]

yes you are, you can change everything except upload a new game or a game fix

[verbal garnet]

not that surprising at all considering it was made by like 30 people

[winged hull]

I'm just trying that one rn and it really is

[cunning inlet]

imagine 30 people combining their powers to create a top 5 game jam game, meanwhile all the solo devs are trying their best to leave an impact

I hope my game still stays afloat in the midst of all the other fantastic submissions

[verbal garnet]

I don't think people participate in gamejams to win, especially when there's like no prizes

[cunning inlet]

maybe I can get top 20 again

[verbal garnet]

I, for example, decided to use the time to learn something (odin/raylib) from the scratch and have fun yeah

[tame rapids]

didn't vedal say something about lavalamp for winner?

[cunning inlet]

yeah me neither, I just look to create a fantastic experience, but I do hope to reach near the top so more people can be introduced to my submission

[verbal garnet]

makes sense

[hasty drift]

Winner of the game jam gets a free lava lamp coupon. He did not specify about if bigger teams get more free lava lamps or if they need to share the code

[cunning inlet]

because the top rated submissions are more likely to be played by other random people

[verbal garnet]

just pay people to play your game EZ

[cunning inlet]

I thought I'd get top 10 last time, but my "innovation" stat brought me down to 15th, which is why I spent more time on innovative gameplay this time

[tacit wasp]

It was made by how many people

[cunning inlet]

1 lava lamp per submission sounds good to me, and the team can choose who receives it

[past meadow]

12

[cerulean jetty]

We also had 9 people at the end. xD

[cunning inlet]

holy team sizes

[verbal garnet]

guys have like full triple AAA game studios out there fr

[cunning inlet]

I thought game jams were normally supposed to be like 2-3 people groups, and maybe solo if they're confident enough

[fleet goblet]

some jams have a team size limit, others dont

more people != better game

(look at least year's submissions )

[cerulean jetty]

We literally barely finish with that many people xD

[small radish]

let's just say i won and be done with it so vedal doesn't have to worry too much about the lava lamps

[cerulean jetty]

"barely" as in half of it was done and was buggy. I could have done better alone. xD

[reef karma]

???

[cunning inlet]

we should set max team size for next jam, just to make sure the submissions are more even level with each other

[hasty drift]

didnt think about it, classic vedal

[agile nymph]

only 1 person from each group can rate games I think....

[cunning inlet]

smaller teams might make better commucation and better games anyway, so it should be considered a good thing

[agile nymph]

only the one that submitted

[fleet goblet]

mmmmm still dont know if its better to do this or if i should allow anyone who contributed as well

[cerulean jetty]

Did you submit, or submit as a team?

Like the account that has the game is the team's account.

[reef karma]

i was part of a team, not the the submitter

[past meadow]

Can't speak for all of us, but me myself don't care much about placement, I just wanted to make a cool game
I am actually very impressed with what solo-dev's managed to do, the sheer number of games submitted is astounding by itself.
We can all be proud of the way this game-jam turned out, now to play and rate each other's games

[cerulean jetty]

The submitter account has to rate.

[reef karma]

oh

[hasty drift]

I think per group is the play, even if it might suck for bigger groups

[past meadow]

Last year me and Troobs were in a 13 people team, and the game was.... let's say "sub-optimal"

[small radish]

is the score for each game based on the average score or is it better to get more ratings?

[misty seal]

Yes honestly the swarm has so many talented people

[tame rapids]

i personally don't mind games made by more people, i make games for game jams for the sake of creating something fun instead of placing high on rankings

[fleet goblet]

#2024-game-jam message

[hasty drift]

[past meadow]

Don't need to look, still remember

[cunning inlet]

I'm sure you'll enjoy my solo dev game then, I really tried putting heart into it

[agile nymph]

Big teams get too ambitious...I liked it better this time with a 3man team.

[cerulean jetty]

I normally do jams alone, then last year I had a half available artist for the first time. The only issue with this team was that we did not scale for 1 developer, and failed to make anything on day 1.

[verbal garnet]

tldr for unaware poeple? {me}

[hasty drift]

making a game with someone else was a good experience. but I feel like productivity would go down if i were with more than 2 others

[cerulean jetty]

Productivity did go down drastically, yes. xD

[past meadow]

Literally this

[winter aurora]

can confirm

[pulsar stag]

i didnt have time to make a credit screen at the end of game
so i placed the soundtracks credit in the first line of my script
idk if this counts rip

[cerulean jetty]

so this.

[cunning inlet]

the most important part of teams is to spend the first hour or two properly communicating your capabilities, sharing your visions, and then coming to a united consensus on what you're making

[cerulean jetty]

We did not have that xD

[winter aurora]

this year we did that
then reduced the scope
then reduced the scope
and got a game I'm happy with

[cunning inlet]

if you start stepping in different angles from the start, it can end up very chaotic in the middle and end

[hasty drift]

me and the other one in my team almost had a half day time zone difference

[cerulean jetty]

Exactly.

[cerulean jetty]

same.

[pulsar stag]

i was alone soo i wasted quite the time learning the python api game

[cerulean jetty]

xD

[winter aurora]

first time using unity for me

last year... it was unreal....

[hasty drift]

[cunning inlet]

which is why solo can feel good sometimes. No communication = just vomit your brain juice all over the screen and make your vision come true the exact way you want it to xd

[verbal garnet]

Guys you have game engines? :Clueless:

[hasty drift]

last year I did godot. i then did no longer like godot. this year i did unity. liked it more

[potent stirrup]

This year and last year my teams had a system where you can send your rating to the one who submitted, who will then put in the rating. Mabey your team can also try that?

[pulsar stag]

the worse was using .inflate and pygame.react for image rectangle hitbox, i asked AI to teach me and i understood a few stuffs
but the rest i managed to do alone (noticeable considering the amounts of Ifs... )

i should avoid turning into a yandereDev

[verbal garnet]

why though he got bucks and bitches with his shit tonn of ifs

[pulsar stag]

[winter aurora]

my code quality was nice at the start. Last day it dramatically become worse
But could easily make use of my old code so it was good to have good quality at first

[past meadow]

tbf, our team wasn't really optimised, we had 5 artists, 4 testers, 1 UI Designer, and 2 Programmers (More like 1.5 programmers, as I mostly did UI elements).
Having been in a big team last year, I can say that it is a miracle we managed to get the game to the state it is in now

That being said, I can understand the imbalance. We literally had one of the most talented artists of the community working on the game.
If anything blame Troobs for having too many friends

[pulsar stag]

my code was also organizated, i separated the While loop that runs the game in multiple functions, keys, frames, music handler, movements and one that updates the ghost's rectangle hitbox

[hasty drift]

so many

[winter aurora]

UI elements are tooo hard for my brain to understand

I'm a backend dev

[hasty drift]

i started my game in separate managers and did create base classes for classes and made specific classes inherit from them. day 3 of game jam, i dont know if i coded a function in which manager

[past meadow]

Can invite me next game-jam

[pulsar stag]

rip

[hasty drift]

my game looked sooo bad day 1 and day 2. artist team member carried me so hard

[violet surge]

amazing work though

[pulsar stag]

in python you can do that same thing in C?
instead of doing all functions in same main.py create like a functionFrame.py that you import the function to the main.py (that has the loop that runs game) ?

[winter aurora]

tbh I'm happy with the ui we had so its ok

[pulsar stag]

in faculty a friend did thousands of lines for his game in C

and he separated in multiple scripts

appareantly this is oriented object iirc , node.js use this too

[lament ermine]

guys I think I'm doing well but I'm not sure

[hasty drift]

is that uno

[lament ermine]

balatro clone

[hasty drift]

need to play, only heard good. always too lazy

[violet surge]

how in the heck

[void parcel]

which game is this? looks crazy with all those icons

[past meadow]

I wasn't saying that your UI is bad, I was just advertising myself

[lament ermine]

Unhando

[winter aurora]

sorry

[waxen trail]

That's literally me 💀 very based, thank you

[past meadow]

Nah, it's ok

[violet surge]

can you break my game as well?

[cunning inlet]

Any time ^^

[lament ermine]

what's your game

[violet surge]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213213

[lament ermine]

my health and damage

the enemy

[violet surge]

how many multipliers is that

[lament ermine]

yes

[hasty drift]

so many games to rate

[frank canopy]

Yo, is there like a deadline for when neuro SDK implementation should be done for submissions to have the best odds of it being used on stream? And would it be cool to add other fixes/enhancements to the neuro version that weren't present in the original submission?

[verbal garnet]

I believe it is already unrelated to gamejam and if you already implementing the API past due gamejam's time why not fix other things as well

[placid salmon]

I'm playing all the least rated games and I can't win a single one of them!

[frank canopy]

That's what I figured too, no reason to have a buggy experience if it is possible to fix

[cerulean jetty]

If we ever do anything then then that is a rewrite xD

[hasty drift]

is that why they are least rated? most people got skill issue to finish them to rate?

or are they borderline unplayable

[waxen trail]

Alex said this
#2024-game-jam message

[cerulean jetty]

Don't play ours xD I don't know if it can be finished.

[waxen trail]

whenever :Shruge:
if you do it before the subathon ends vedal might play them now, otherwise he will do it after his 6 month break

[cerulean jetty]

6 month?

[waxen trail]

*6 years

[hasty drift]

Surely vedals break will be shorter

[cerulean jetty]

O yeah, decades.

[waxen trail]

By the time Vedal streams again we'll all be a remnant of the past 😌

[tacit wasp]

What a dedication to the theme Vedal has

[cunning inlet]

He said he will bring Neuro back 2 weeks after subathon, but he'll be away for longer (not more than 2 months tho (clueless))

[placid salmon]

It's a mix bag, some of them are good but had a bug that prevented completion, or it was too hard for me (skill issue) or others were incomplete

[placid salmon]

As long as it can launch I'll play it, I have played a lot of games during all the jams I joined and I have seen things that would scare most.

[verbal garnet]

wow you have a lot of free time

and here I am working this entire week

[tacit wasp]

I know my game is in that list, have you played it? (Stream of Memories)
Last time I checked, it was at the bottom of the list so maybe you haven't

[old adder]

finally i got things to work

[hasty drift]

games with more than few minute play time and replayability, I kneel

[misty tree]

haha that one was cuz everyone testing kept running around the empty room expecting to find something

[lavish escarp]

'

ball is stuck on the ermfish

[hasty drift]

[warm gale]

Blame paccha for finding an experienced dev for us

[placid salmon]

Not yet, I'm playing games that have 0 or 1 rating

[tacit wasp]

Got it

[hasty drift]

does it at least get damaged? i cleared that stage

[lavish escarp]

nope

its just lying there

[hasty drift]

aw

[past meadow]

Paccha's fault

[lament ermine]

I played Alex's team's game

why you gotta break my heart like that

[lavish escarp]

ssadge

[tacit wasp]

Oh nevermind, I don't think I'm in the low rated list anymore
Yay

[past meadow]

I saw it was very pretty and heard it's very sad, haven't played any games from this jam yet tho
We plan to get together with the team to play and rate the games together later

[lament ermine]

man that sounds fun, I would do that too but exams

but I'm having a blast playing all of the rn

lots of creativity

lots of funny moments

[past meadow]

For now replaying top games from last game-jam, so nostalgic
Tieff's soundtrack for "Neuro's lost and found kingdom" is so fire 🔥

[waxen trail]

The community cooked

Last jam we had some insane submissions too

[past meadow]

My exams start on the 13th
But quite bussy for new years

[lament ermine]

this community is so passionate

I'm glad to be a part of it

[hasty drift]

I love Neuro

[past meadow]

Vtuber awards were rigged

[lament ermine]

I love Neuro!

[lavish escarp]

deranged

[waxen trail]

It's true, we care about the things we love so we cook as hard as possible for the jam

[past meadow]

That too

[hasty drift]

cant argue with that, seeing all the Sniffa spam

[lavish escarp]

i still think seeing vedal hates us spam the awards was peak swarm tho

that and literally every canvas

[cunning inlet]

we'll 100% win next "best community" award for sure

the swarm only grows stronger

we'll be unstoppable

[lament ermine]

the game jam submissions literally doubled in size

that's insane

[hasty drift]

thats insane

[lament ermine]

that's actually crazy 🐢

[cunning inlet]

my game doubled in size as well

[lavish escarp]

my game is infinitely larger

[hasty drift]

my team doubled in size (from solo to duo)

[lavish escarp]

considering last year i didnt enter

[lament ermine]

my team size stayed mostly the same

[potent stirrup]

121 -> 278 so 2.3 times more submissions

[lament ermine]

last year it was 12, this year it's 8

[lavish escarp]

i still think its wild how many team submissions there are tho

[idle ivy]

big 🥹

[lament ermine]

solo is lonely

with a team, you can be miserable together

[lavish escarp]

cuz im assuming you guys arent studios, just community members that pooled together and somehow didnt murder each other while trying to work a group project involving code

[waxen trail]

I did dev with a composer last year, this year I developed with an artist (who is also a composer)

[cunning inlet]

my game went from 29->75MB so 2.6 times larger size

[waxen trail]

So my team size stayed the same but also grew at teh same time

[lament ermine]

we had the foresight to recruit a manager this time around

[lavish escarp]

wild

[hasty drift]

guys... i have no own dice

[waxen trail]

Want me to roll for you

[hasty drift]

yes please

[potent stirrup]

my team went from 8 to 3, I think both experiences were cool.

[hasty drift]

i need 4 more

[idle ivy]

ye, i guess both of us doing coding helped, also we reused some bits of generic code from other project

[waxen trail]

Just rolled a 6 irl

[hasty drift]

nice, 3 more

[lavish escarp]

still, i cant imagine just how nasty having to coordinate that many people in such a short timeframe is tho

[lament ermine]

it's hard

[lament ermine]

the devs don't know what the artists are doing

the artists don't know what the devs are doing

the sound guys are just chilling

[lavish escarp]

yeah

[lament ermine]

and then in the last day they whip out multiple bgms

[lavish escarp]

i could not imagine that lmfao

[cunning inlet]

^ This is literally why I said that first 1-2 hour communication at the start of game jam is the most important xdd

[lavish escarp]

i used the art to like hide deficiencies in my programming skill

[winter aurora]

9 not 8

[lament ermine]

which is like, how, but also it would've been nice to have that there earlier so developing is good

[lavish escarp]

not having immediate access to modify assets

would suck shit for me lmfao

[lament ermine]

oh yeah, I keep misrembering

[hasty drift]

day 1 of the game jam, i thought the game i code would be top down, till i saw the first sprites

[winter aurora]

Having a manager in a big team help

[lament ermine]

we were on call for like 3 hours after theme was announced

[cunning inlet]

oof

[lavish escarp]

i saw the theme come up on neurosoda

and i was like fuck it im game

immediately got to work

[warm gale]

same

[lament ermine]

and still there was like miscommunication or things we had to figure out

[lavish escarp]

wheeze

[lament ermine]

when solo or in small team, you can just come up with shit

[warm gale]

we were on a lot of calls

[idle ivy]

that's wild
having to manage one person (myself) is already hard enough

[lament ermine]

but in a bigger team you can't do that anymore, have to keep in mind like

what the artists can feasibly do

what the devs can feasibly do

[hasty drift]

last year i was a solo dev and my team was incompetent

[lavish escarp]

tbf, you need to do that for solo as well

[lament ermine]

yea, but you know your own capabilities

[winter aurora]

also I'm sorry I kept asking on dev chat detail about what we had to do

[lament ermine]

and have full vision of the game

[lavish escarp]

i kicked my own ass when the artist gave me a sprite and animation set that was difficult to work with

[lament ermine]

no no, that was fine

expected, even

it's just the problems of working in a team

[tepid cove]

solo dev + making your own art is optimal

[lament ermine]

I think maybe we should've chosen one person to just have the 'vision'

and direct everything

[lavish escarp]

crogun of neutris fame

your reputation preceeds you

[misty tree]

my team was relatively low on management difficulty cuz the other guys kinda just let me run everything xD and I made sure to keep up with what everyone was doing to catch if something started going off, tho i suppose that cut into my time a bit

[lament ermine]

I was already kinda doing that but not properly I think

[misty seal]

Omg I love Tetris and neuro so neutris was so fun

[lavish escarp]

neuro without the arms/gun game object because instead of animating 2 game objects together i just hid one and put the gun on the body sprite

[winter aurora]

yeah you where kinda the lead dev
and I mean, I can't lead bc I just lack creative thinking

[warm gale]

It is in fact what you should have done. We did this, and had no problems in that regard

[nimble dew]

I just played two games that have an interesting basic idea but just end after like a minute of playing because they ran out of time... How are we supposed to judge that? I feel the existing rating doesn't really take "very unfinished games" into account.

[misty tree]

the only main hiccup was that originally the sound guy wanted to use 8 bit sounds, and i kinda understand where that idea came from, but once the sounds started stacking up it got really grating on the ears, so we had to replace those

[lament ermine]

yeah, I think I wasn't confident enough to take full responsibility

[lavish escarp]

thats a choice tbf

[lament ermine]

next time we do this

I should just bite the bullet

[winter aurora]

next year

[misty tree]

but he still got all the sounds in by the end that we needed so it didnt really affect much

[lament ermine]

next year!

[lament ermine]

you were superb in programming stuff though

[lavish escarp]

game object for the arm/gun hides itself and a gun just appears on the body when rolling

[warm gale]

Me was like: i don't want to draw a lot, let me direct 👉👈

[lament ermine]

man was I grateful that I could just give tasks and you got it done

super reliable Komae

[winter aurora]

I mean, I'm lacking creativity I need an area when I'm good (aka am a backend dev)

[lament ermine]

XD

[past meadow]

[hasty drift]

@winter aurora you liked my game last year right? did you test the game i made this year?

[cunning inlet]

One guy should be the lead visioneer yeah

[lavish escarp]

its pretty interesting seeing all you artists whose work i like just vibing here tho ngl

troobs is here

[fringe star]

i would like to see it sir

[winter aurora]

I forgot, what was your game (and what is your current game ?)

[lament ermine]

next time

[cunning inlet]

they can take ideas from others, but they should have the full overview of what should be done, otherwise it can go all over the place

[hasty drift]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3211655 thats the game i made

[cunning inlet]

otherwise you might suddenly have assets you'll never use, or down period where nothing gets done

[hasty drift]

big shoutout to the artist i worked with

[lavish escarp]

troobs is here and just vibing and im not the type to fanboy but im very much a fan of troob's animations

[winter aurora]

I did not tested it yet but someone on my team did !

[hasty drift]

it was the slay the spire card game

[lament ermine]

oh, I played that

[fringe star]

o this one, its the tower defence one, cool af

[lament ermine]

it was fun!

finished on second try

[hasty drift]

[warm gale]

Even with a lead we have some unused stuff. But that's just because we hadn't enough time for implementation

[winter aurora]

I want to test it but I prioritize testing low rated game

[hasty drift]

thats fair i do the same rn

[warm gale]

thank you

[cunning inlet]

yeah there will very likely be unused stuff one way or another, especially in a team

[lavish escarp]

O7

[violet surge]

oh damn, we also have a slay-the-spire-like game
need to play yours

[agile nymph]

me waiting for tutel to come and play them games....

[waxen trail]

I love troob's animations too I've yet to play your game but I will

[lavish escarp]

apparently the ship game is neurosoda's

which, yk, honestly, not surprising

[warm gale]

neurosoda made a game??

[violet surge]

wait what where

[hasty drift]

i did slay the spire like last year, it wasnt too good. this year i got a tower defense one. lemme look up your game

[tacit wasp]

Yeah it is, I saw their community post about it lmao

I think the name is Vedal's Secret?

[lavish escarp]

https://itch.io/jam/neuro/rate/3213193

[tacit wasp]

A must play before next week

[lament ermine]

why does the embed keep disappearing

[winter aurora]

making me extend my game name column smh

[lavish escarp]

swarm animators wise tho i wanna know what degen shit ECaptainPH would make tho

[hasty drift]

I HAD NO IDEA HOW TO NAME THE GAME, everything sounded bad

[cunning inlet]

my game's at the top :D

[warm gale]

I remember Vedal liking playing a tower defense game from last year game jam

[tacit wasp]

It can't keep up with the massive femboy energy emitting from the thumbnail

[lavish escarp]

i am proud of my game's name

[winter aurora]

no its ok its nothing

[hasty drift]

td is a fun genre, yea

[void parcel]

you can remove tutel's insanity. for your sanity

[misty seal]

I remember they tricked vedal into saying it back

[winter aurora]

yep I wanted to test your game as I liked your previous game year !
as an undertale & omori fan I may be biased bc of the audio

[winter aurora]

oh why

[hasty drift]

i saw an undertale game mechanics game this jam

[cunning inlet]

I was wondering what to name it for a while as well, I wanted it to be 2 words, similar to "Finding Neuro" from last year, and I wanted it to include "Evil" and some other evil word to describe Evil's evildoings, and eventually I decided to go with "Evil's Malice"

[lavish escarp]

i was probably gonna reference some song

for the name anyway

[cunning inlet]

I could have named it "Evil Evil" (as in Evil is evil) which would have been really funny now that I think about it

[violet surge]

we named the game last day

[lavish escarp]

Evil's Evils

[hasty drift]

same

[lament ermine]

Evil's Malice is a sick title tbh

[void parcel]

i wouldnt even classify it as a game its so bad theres only the tutorial level which is unfinished and unbeatable