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nocturne olive
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I have tried it just plug and play style
It isn't quite working
For example trying to ping my PC's IP just says the target network is unreachable

obsidian mantle
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ping from where

nocturne olive
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From a laptop connected via the slave router

obsidian mantle
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is it slaveWAN-masterLAN?

nocturne olive
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Yes

obsidian mantle
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what are wan settings

nocturne olive
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I have no clue where they are

obsidian mantle
nocturne olive
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I'm clueless when it comes to setting up networks

obsidian mantle
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actually its always random

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they usually put it in some submenu with random name

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sometims it doesnt even say WAN, wan is some another subfolder of menus

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you need to click it all like settings/advanced settings/network/networkconfiguration/configuration

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etc

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potentially you have some weird PPPoE protocol on WAN of slave router that blocks it from acting like switch

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however

nocturne olive
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Under Broadband there's at least a button to add a new WAN interface followed by a list of 3 thingies

obsidian mantle
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you can try to slam lan to lan of routers

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uhh but you probably will need to configure something else so router doesnt isolate its lans but acts like a switch

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wait i think i know it

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you need all your lans to be in same vlan

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wait no actually not

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it will become all mixed up

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so slave's port connected to master must be in different vlan from wifi/lan where you ping from or connect lavalamp from

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neurOMEGALUL hold up i kind of want to try it

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i had a second router somewhere

nocturne olive
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I just found out if I connect to the garbage router's ethernet port it goes right into being a part of the main router's network, giving me access to configure both at once

obsidian mantle
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i cant set up vlans on 2nd router unfortunately

fast pagoda
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Jesus Christ

amber fractal
amber fractal
fast pagoda
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Went to best but just to peek around and damn it's grim

amber fractal
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It really is igglybwaa

opaque sigil
fast pagoda
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515 bucks for 64 gb

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What the fuck bro

amber fractal
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We love $200 RGB tax

fast pagoda
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The dram market has fallen

amber fractal
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Bro I am NOT building a PC anytime soon in this economy

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Shame that I was considering it

fast pagoda
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It's weird because you can kinda get decent prices on like half the stuff

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And then GPU and dram specifically are just skyrocketed to the moon

amber fractal
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At this point, a phone cluster would be more viable than whatever the hell this is

nocturne olive
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I HAS DONE IT
It WORKS

amber fractal
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if you truly wanted to go AI

fast pagoda
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That's why I'm out here like .... SD card storage array?

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The shittiest solution ever

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4tb 990 Evo for $260 isn't bad I guess

amber fractal
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I'd accept on disk KV Cache at that point

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sure it is slower but I can at least do like a 4 way mirror

fast pagoda
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They must've dropped the price on these

amber fractal
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and still be cheaper than ram

fast pagoda
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I just need a 64 channel nvme array to spread the IO so wide it can't be slow

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And by channel I mean 4x pcie lanes in a "channel"

obsidian mantle
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neurOMEGALUL that router has no vlan i couldnt do shit with it

nocturne olive
fast pagoda
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I kinda like these integrated triple fan things

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I am surprised these weren't a thing earlier

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Dunno about $70 for it but as a concept

obsidian mantle
nocturne olive
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Yes

fast pagoda
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My lamp is still fucked

obsidian mantle
nocturne olive
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I can control it with no Blutetooth

fast pagoda
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I need to figure that out

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The lamp connected to my wifi but the app can't find it

hearty notch
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gm

nocturne olive
hearty notch
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i got into neuro after lamp sales ended I'm newb

fast pagoda
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I'll figure it out later, it's on a separate subnet I think

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Because it has to use 2.4ghz band

obsidian mantle
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thonk can you ping it

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thonk did we have this conversation before

fast pagoda
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I haven't I don't think

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I can see the thing on the network and it SHOULDNT be a separate vlan

obsidian mantle
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yeah but have you tried pinging it thonk

fast pagoda
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But it has 3 fucking Mac addresses so I said alright I'm ignoring that

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I've troubleshooted it less than 0

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Besides unplugging it till it connected and then swarm app said it's joeber

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6ghz I may have client isolation on

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Might be part of it

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Or all of it

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Cuz that's what my phone is on

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I need to sit down at my computer and figure it out but I'm busy complaining about prices at bestbuy

nocturne olive
hearty notch
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nice

fast pagoda
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Mann I want mine to not be green

hearty notch
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wow

fast pagoda
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Guess I'm doing that when I get home

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What the hell is so arduous about creating these charging mats that requires them to be $120+

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I wouldn't mind having one since I have this mouse but like shit man

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That's a lot of money to not plug it in every few days

amber fractal
fast pagoda
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As someone who adds all the weights to my mouse

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Who has ever needed a more aero lightened mouse

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How weak is the average league of legends player that they can't move their mouse fast enougn

nocturne olive
fast pagoda
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I prefer if my drink drips a bit of condensation and I happen to hold it over my mouse that it just drips directly into the core of the mouse and shorts the entire board

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AINTNEURWAY these things are way bigger than I thought they would be physically

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Take out a small loan of a billion dollars to buy a router and 128gb of ram

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I could right now spend $1200 on 128gb of ddr5 and a single router

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WTF

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It's over

stray dragon
fast pagoda
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actually

stray dragon
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it's what i did and it works

fast pagoda
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Another g502x wireless is $179 and then I have an extra mouse so it's more spency but then backup exists

stray dragon
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fuck waiting for a recharge or making new habits

fast pagoda
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Not on sale though

fast pagoda
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I mean I just plug mine in to my keyboard with a tiny USB c cable

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And use it like normal

stray dragon
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the cable for mine would be a very annoying spot if i did that

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and i also flip the mouse between different hands pretty often

fast pagoda
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Yeah I have a g502x plus lightspeed with the shitty RGB but it was like $120 not $180 like they want now

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The cable plugs into the normal spot a mouse cord would always plug into

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If it were a wired mouse

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So it don't even notice if it's plugged in anyways

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I don't think this mouse is good for swapping between hands lol

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I only ever use it right handed

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When you go expecting to get an SSD and this on clearance is the only thing worth buying in the whole store

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Guess I'll wait for black Friday for a 2tb drive under $100 again

stray dragon
nocturne olive
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Time for a true test if the "undervolt" is stable

fast pagoda
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I almost randomly got another 502 wired justifying it to myself as a "backup" but then I thought about it

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And I have at least 4 g502s

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An original one from back in the day that still works, a hero, a wireless hero, a g502x

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Well x plus

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Wireless

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There are so many version

stray dragon
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do you use the side buttons at all

fast pagoda
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I also have 2 razr basilisks, a wireless V3 and a wired one

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Which are just g502 knockoffs

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I use the side buttons yeah

velvet vale
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yall pray for me i have to go into the broadcom website to download an update

fast pagoda
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Where the USB c plugs in for the g502x plus lightspeed super giga edition gamer supreme $100 surcharge version

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Idk where the hell my wireless basilisk is

fast pagoda
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It's permagreen pog

silent cloak
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why is MinGW such a pain in the ass

fast pagoda
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because it's gnu shit but on windows

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so it's naturally a nightmare because it's like oil and water

fast pagoda
silent cloak
fast pagoda
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trying to figure out which device connected is the lamp lmao

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does it report as anything or just a generic iot thing

jagged turtle
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probably like "NeuroLavaLamp" or smth

fast pagoda
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well, if they configured it to do that

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i am half expecting it to show up as some random IOT vendor like tuya smart or something

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whatever vendor makes the nic in there

nocturne olive
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Mine was something like lw0

fast pagoda
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ok so that IS i

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it

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that's what i have on my network but i wasnt sure if that was it or if it was one of the 30 other random chinesium things ive connected

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I thought that was going to be it but then i was second guessing becasue i have turned it off

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and all 3 lwip devices that appearaed after i connected it are still showing up

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and why does it have 3 mac addresses associated that seems epic

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so i feel like it's just one of the

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them

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since lwip is just Light Weight IP

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so a lot of embedded stuff uses a similar reporting namee

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i am not sure if it's just one of these or all of them

nocturne olive
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lwip0 is exactly what my lamp called itself

fast pagoda
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i got it

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disconnected it kept running arp -a till on reconnect

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it's 10.0.0.78 aka lwip0-333

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issue appears to have just been the app for some reason

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i deleted all its data and tried again and it kept claiming it didnt have an SSID

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but now it suddenly works

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I turned it on stream sync mode and it immediately defaulted to hal 9000 red

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i think my cat's litter box stole lwip neurOMEGALUL

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lol it literally is tuya smart vendor that's funny

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vedal and co crafted this device using ancient secrets far beyond the knowledge of contemporary scholars

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inside each neurosama lamp lies a working version of the antikythera mechanism

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i opened my lava lamp and found this

silent cloak
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truth nuke

fast pagoda
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this thing uses the botnet port for control

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aka irc port 6668

fast pagoda
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mhm so it's listening on tcp 6668
it is tuya smart's protocol version 3.5

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it is broadcasting on UDP 6666 and UDP 6667

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it also monitors UDP 7000

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it briefly reported a different mac address belonging to espressif and pointing to it using either an ESP32 or ESP8266 controller, seems it used that mac when first connecting then swapped over to reporting the software defined TUYA mac instead

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useless information but neat

young plover
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Wonder how difficult it would be to reverse-engineer and sync with other things.

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rgb neuro toilet could be real

faint sandal
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the majority of the work has already been done

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as for making other things Neuro synced that's another story

young plover
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oh neat

fast pagoda
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oh damn that's got a lot of what ive been doing already done

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sheesh

rigid snow
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porgramoing

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algorithhmg

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nerd

faint sandal
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normd

mighty thorn
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so how would you guys go about parsing pdfs like these into csv data of "source position" and "recorder position" but, like, thousands of them

young plover
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straight up raster graphics? oof

hollow matrix
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apparently GPT 5 mini had to double-check neurOMEGALUL

young plover
hollow matrix
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Nice job removing the files copilot 👍

amber fractal
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I did too much research on a children's game igglybwaa

silent cloak
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Rip bozo

amber fractal
jagged turtle
young plover
amber fractal
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We all know android accepts those as cameras

amber fractal
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We have a strong first contender

silent cloak
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Works for discord

amber fractal
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What a convenient time for the capture card to disappear

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I feel a disturbance in the force with these terms

amber fractal
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I already had this open

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The allow button doesn't work neurOMEGALUL

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WHY IS IT THE REAR CAMERA

hollow matrix
amber fractal
hollow matrix
amber fractal
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(framework, I love you but 20 is excessive)

final tinsel
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use toothpick

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or keycap remover

fast pagoda
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lmao iggly did it verify with the dr breen image

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holy

amber fractal
rigid snow
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i am very curious about the take a selfie thing

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people tell me i look like a teen

fast pagoda
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last time i did it, they made me rotate my head

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to tell that im a 3d person

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but

rigid snow
fast pagoda
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they also now probably have my entire head in 3d

fast pagoda
hollow matrix
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Amazing change copilot neurOMEGALUL

rigid snow
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oh i just have to not shave

fast pagoda
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at least last time i was clean shaven

rigid snow
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ok

fast pagoda
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yeah just have a beard

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beard = 900 years old to these things

amber fractal
fast pagoda
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im reasonably sure if i were to draw a bird beard on a jpeg of a baby it would let them through in some of them

rigid snow
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i have a german vpn i use for twitter

fast pagoda
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bird

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beard

rigid snow
fast pagoda
rigid snow
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i do not know how to find a post to trigger that

fast pagoda
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just use a vpn to somewhere like texas, US and go to an 18+ website

rigid snow
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nonono

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i want twitter specifically

fast pagoda
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but why

amber fractal
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because it is twitter

rigid snow
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oh i can just search up sus stuff

fast pagoda
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just in case mhm

rigid snow
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because for twitter specifically it pisses me off

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it doesn't want me to see totally normnal posts that are tagged as sensitive

fast pagoda
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im actually surprised that it took this long for twitter to have any age verification considering that it's long been tumblr-esque in that there's just explicit stuff posted all over it without any gating

rigid snow
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isn'ty it only eu and uk

fast pagoda
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ive never seen it myself using my normal connection nor when im using my regular vpn which is in the netherlands

hollow matrix
fast pagoda
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it must've had trouble with the replacement

hollow matrix
fast pagoda
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usually they will try to just replace one thig but then because theyre stupid artificial morons they cant do it properly and end up just rewriting an entire block to add one character

rigid snow
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OK I FOUND A POST BUT IT JUST

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showed me

fast pagoda
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loolol

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yeah it's gotta be inconsistent cuz like i said my vpn is usually out of the netherlands and there's never been an age verification for me on xitter but maybe they dont care in NL

rigid snow
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oh maybe it's connected to the thing they introduced

fast pagoda
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what, does grok guess your age and let you through now?

rigid snow
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that exposes from what country you are

hollow matrix
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uuuuhhh, is this how the replacement is supposed to look? neurOMEGALUL

fast pagoda
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time to throw it out and restart

fast pagoda
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i mean by all means, if i'm logged in they definitely should know i'm in the US

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regardless of vpn

hollow matrix
rigid snow
fast pagoda
# hollow matrix I feel like copilot has been really fucked up recently for some reason

i havent used copilot proper to do anything in any codebase in a long time because it kept just creating more work for me than it did save time, if i am gonna ensloppify vibe code something i will use claude code but otherwise i almost exclusively have reverted to just using "code assistants" to be very computationally inefficient ad-hoc file organization/processing units

rigid snow
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ye it’s only on select accounts i think

fast pagoda
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"select accounts" how do i get this honour

hollow matrix
rigid snow
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for me i literally can't access twitter without a vpn

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since 2021

fast pagoda
rigid snow
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well i technically can

fast pagoda
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i am surprised that places dont more regularly just enforce the account origin to be the location you're assumed to be in even if connected via a vpn

rigid snow
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but i didn't

fast pagoda
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i imagine there's complications of well, then if the account IS connecting from the suspect "fake" location then you have a problem

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because you're not enforcing the local stuff

fast pagoda
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did it use the wrong language?

rigid snow
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3b model

hollow matrix
fast pagoda
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you know ive never tried to see what kind of cursed output a 3b "coder" model puts out

rigid snow
fast pagoda
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yeaH that's definitely a super failed diff that duplicated a lot

hollow matrix
fast pagoda
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depending on what did that it might not even be the fault of the llm that wrote the output

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but the diff model

hollow matrix
hollow matrix
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I've found that while slower, GPT 5 mini seems to get the job done the best imo

fast pagoda
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claude 4.5 and 4.1 are better at being very independent than claude 4 was but i found claude 4 generally produced less garbled nonsense yeah, and some people you'll still see swearing by like 3.7 lol

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to me that's mainly down to expectations and familiarity though, after a while of working with a model you can generally predict what/how it will do something

hollow matrix
fast pagoda
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and they don't do what you expect coming from like 3.7 or whatever because they are different models

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so then it's unfamiliar and people say ahhh bad

fast pagoda
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4.5 is nice though for my use because it generally is just set and forget like hey brah set up this <random thing> over here and move xyz to this location + label it with foo.bar+n in the filename + verify hashes of all

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4.5 wont bother through any of that

hollow matrix
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Gemini is also reasonable, the one thing I've noticed is that it seems overly apologetic when it gets things wrong compared to other models

fast pagoda
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gemini cli is kinda dog though

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so iit makes it worse for me

hollow matrix
fast pagoda
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i have experimented with having claude code serve itself as an mcp server, and then have gemini-cli USE that mcp server, instructed to do so whenever there was a task involving consistency over a long series of operations like file moves and stuff

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and found that works funnily well

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make the ai vibe assistant use its own vibe assistant

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and yes gemini will jump off the nearest bridge the second it messes up a diff

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he's literally me

hollow matrix
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It's so fucking annoying when it does this because it takes sooo long to do neuroD

fast pagoda
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The way it should work is to run the summarizing portion on the backend without preventing the model from responding in the meantime by simply temporarily trimming the context to just the most recent 10% or something while that happens and then append it to continue with the most recent + the summarized compacted previous context once the summary is done

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Still compacts it but allows it to still do other tasks

hollow matrix
fast pagoda
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Maybe put a disclaimer saying it has limited context while the summarizing is happening if concerned that it'll be missing information if whoever is using it needs any of that now trimmed context before the summary is complete

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They don't even use the main model for summary

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It's like 5 mini probably doing it

hollow matrix
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brb

fast pagoda
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Mfw forgot I'd need a screw

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Instead of purchasing a new drive like I intended I'm carefully shoveling a second doo-doo generic 512gb drive in here while waiting for black friday

hollow matrix
fast pagoda
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Random Chinese brand

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Idk I bought it on Alibaba it's just a portable monitor

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Custom stability solution here

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How conductive is the average snek toy

amber fractal
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I see no issues with this setup

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I wish it was spring loaded tho

fast pagoda
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I keep things organized, this monitor is the main one for the mini pc rn

hollow matrix
amber fractal
rigid snow
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irl photos tech related

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i removed a battery from a phone today

rough rover
fast pagoda
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Sus

fast pagoda
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But the general disarray is a symptom of my using my living room as some sort of computer discombobulation area

rough rover
rigid snow
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first word capitalized

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phone ALERT

fast pagoda
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I'm on phone yeah

rigid snow
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i turn that off it pisses me off

fast pagoda
rigid snow
fast pagoda
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I use capitalization I feel like most of the time on my computer anyways

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Maybe not in this server

rigid snow
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it’s not about texting or writing it’s about parity

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with a pc

fast pagoda
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Oh I see

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Do you use nixod

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Nixos

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By chance

rigid snow
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no

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i used ansible twice or thrice

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that counts glueless

opaque sigil
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Do you need help with nixos enub

rigid snow
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absolutely not

opaque sigil
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Not you

rigid snow
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thank goodness

fast pagoda
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Honestly I went to put nixos in my laptop one time and chose the kde iso and kde basically exploded on the live boot so I took it as a sign to not use it at that time

opaque sigil
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Reasonable

fast pagoda
opaque sigil
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I like the random gpu lying around

fast pagoda
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I swapped it for another one temporarily

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Well, I was going to run 2 separate shitty gpus in the desktop on its side but in doing so I somehow killed the 1070 again I think

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This 1070 somehow will just stop working for a while and then if I discard it somewhere it'll start working again

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I have it there because that was the closest flat surface to place it on that wasnt the floor last time I picked it up

amber fractal
fast pagoda
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I'd rather leave it like this than spend time organizing a temporary thing that's gonna blow up the next time I need to take something apart anyways

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This wire is going to the WiFi module in this thing which is beneath the first ssd

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But if I pull it out a little and rest it on the new one

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It holds it in

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Perfect

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Thank goodness they thought of everything and put in this screw less mounting solution

final tinsel
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me getting PTSD from an M.2 i got that SAID IT WAS 2TB BUT WAS 1TB AND THEN LOCKED UP ALL MY DATA Ragey

hollow matrix
hollow matrix
glad path
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my laptop is missing like 6gb of its supposed storage

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or like

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3gb

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i dont remember

hollow matrix
young plover
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megathink how'd you end up with three recovery partitions

fast pagoda
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Yeah that partition layout is something else

young plover
fast pagoda
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Reformat drive wit new partitions and you'll get most of the space back lol

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With a small drive like that I'd put the recovery stuff on a flash drive

hollow matrix
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Chat, what if I tried removing the system partition? I'm sure that would end well glueless

fast pagoda
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Surely this distro will be suitable for my usecase

fast pagoda
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Or just deleting all recovery ones

hollow matrix
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smh I just assigned it a drive letter and the big recovery partition doesn't even use all the space

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It's not even a lot of files, just really big ones

opaque sigil
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aka you're not being scammed, windows is just stupid and showing the wrong unit in their ui

hollow matrix
young plover
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yeet

hollow matrix
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wtf is dell packaging thats 6GB neurOMEGALUL

opaque sigil
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3 rust binaries probably idk

hollow matrix
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brb

young plover
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o7 PC

opaque sigil
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well hopefully dell didn't bundle anything actually important I guess

hollow matrix
opaque sigil
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You'll need to move the recovery partition at the end I think

hollow matrix
opaque sigil
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Idk if you even can safely, but if you want to extend your c drive at least the one right after it needs to move

hollow matrix
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Apparently, I'm going to have to delete the other recovery partitions because they are in the way, and you can't move them

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Hopefully that fixed it

fast pagoda
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Dell bundles basically the base image in that partition I think

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So the whole thing can be reinstalled from it

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But, flash drive

hollow matrix
opaque sigil
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Interesting

hollow matrix
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unfortunately it wouldn't let me add the EFI partition to the Primary one neuroSadge

fast pagoda
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The efi partition is mandatory

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It wouldn't boot without it, the bootloader is in there

hollow matrix
opaque sigil
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You can remove it if you don't want the ability to boot into windows

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Could be good depending on who you ask

hollow matrix
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Wait, how do I hide this now neurOMEGALUL

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I thought it would remove it since the partition no longer exists

opaque sigil
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Restart

hollow matrix
fast pagoda
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just installed this 2 seconds ago and even linux cant escape the efi partition

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mfw 1 mb unallocated

hollow matrix
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Huh, I guess this happens if the partition no longer exists and you were in it in powershell

opaque sigil
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Mhm

hollow matrix
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I wonder why it can't find the location glueless

hollow matrix
fast pagoda
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If you go in there, Santa will not bring presents this year

hollow matrix
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You can't even assign the reserved partition neurOMEGALUL

olive sable
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goodmorning neuroWaveA

hollow matrix
obsidian mantle
obsidian mantle
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what kind of recovery can computer do

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with recovery partition

hollow matrix
obsidian mantle
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so its like.... little flash drive

hollow matrix
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I can't imagine deleting them all is recommended, but I'm sure it's fine glueless

obsidian mantle
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embedded

hollow matrix
obsidian mantle
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yeah it would make sense for it to be something more

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than just setup.exe

hollow matrix
olive sable
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that 22gb

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thats like 3 silksongs

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imaginbe all the things you could do with that storage space

hollow matrix
olive sable
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for some reason silksong on pc is 8gb and on the ps5 its 2.5gb

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weird

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probably a directX thing

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even the switch has it at like 4gb

hollow matrix
olive sable
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i mean, im sure these internet sources have a valid source

olive sable
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im pretty sure they're just going by size in the storage manager of the consoles

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im willing to bet its decently accurate

hollow matrix
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Maybe they should open-source the switch os

olive sable
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funny bones overhere thought nintendo should opensource something

hollow matrix
olive sable
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its prob private repos

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if anything at all

young plover
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Atmosphere is a pretty thorough replacement
SciresM sometimes does RE on stream

hollow matrix
olive sable
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vscode integration NeuroClueless

young plover
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glue as someone who's org hosts their own git repos
it's better to let someone else take care of it

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IT installed a kernel update that kept crashing our server

patent shard
jagged turtle
obsidian mantle
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how could you possibly stumble upon that message from 2023

jagged turtle
obsidian mantle
#

thonk ok

hollow matrix
jagged turtle
patent shard
#

I wanted to see if anyone mentioned that garbage vocal/instrument isolation tool
if it was 2021, fair enough... 2023? oh boy...

hollow matrix
faint sandal
#

Deezer nuts

patent shard
#

if you just wanted instruments/vocals, mdx-net was def available.. idk if roformers were out but mdx-net was at least not terrible
if you wanted more isolation, demucs was miles better than Spleeter...
it seems some people just don't know and decide by popularity alone 😔

patent shard
#

it's quiet in here
guess it's that time of day

obsidian mantle
#

everyone working/studying/sleeping

safe path
#

feelsStrongMan Clap cooked

olive sable
sage crag
#

wrr

uneven pulsar
#

yo programmers

sage crag
#

fake

uneven pulsar
#

why this chat is not activity ?

opaque sigil
#

konii can you get me gpu with unlimited L2 cache pls tyvm

#

it's eu morning, the internet is dead at this time

#

half the world either asleep or at work enub

signal trout
#

so surely everyone must be awake glueless

opaque sigil
#

refer to the 2nd half of my statement

#

but yeah, that bad time is kind of over now

uneven pulsar
opaque sigil
jagged turtle
#

prime :AINTNOWAY: moment

uneven pulsar
#

I think i will go artist channel for music and drawing

opaque sigil
#

more like apple is giving google a discount to stay the default search engine

ivory plinth
uneven pulsar
uneven pulsar
ivory plinth
nocturne olive
#

It turns out my "undervolt" on the 3090 was not stable
It crashed the system after 5 hours or so of training

maiden geyser
nocturne olive
#

Linux specifically hates secureboot
Secureboot bad

maiden geyser
nocturne olive
#

Linux works great with Nvidia though no?

sick owl
#

Ngl, I got some free api cred through my uni and I am loving GPT 5 codex

#

Not even for programming, just general usage

#

It skips all the wordy bullshit the normal GPT 5 is guilty of and just gets straight to the point

opaque sigil
nocturne olive
#

Well mine works pretty much flawlessly on a dual GPU setup

uneven pulsar
nocturne olive
#

Wa

uneven pulsar
#

Im straight to point guy

nocturne olive
#

If you want to DM you can just send a message request instead

sick owl
#

For regular use i.e web browsing, media consumption, dev work, productivity etc. it works well

#

For gaming its mostly good but you do take a performance hit of about 20% on DX12 and 3-10%~ in other titles

#

That performance issue isn't really there on AMD and Intel, where Windows and Linux trade blows

uneven pulsar
nocturne olive
#

Well I need CUDA so I keep using Nvidia

sick owl
#

Honestly for CUDA dev work Linux is by far the best choice

#

Much better support for stuff like Triton

nocturne olive
#

I use it for NeuroSynth

uneven pulsar
nocturne olive
#

Adding CUDA acceleration support to NeuroSynth was one of the best additions I did
Without it a simple change may take a minute to render but now it only takes a couple seconds

sick owl
#

CUDA, ROCM and OneAPI are pretty much mandatory for that kind of workload yeah

#

You can go without but the amount of performance you leave on the table is staggering

nocturne olive
#

Unfortunately I don't have cards for the other two so I can't test supporting them

nocturne olive
#

I'm sure once NeuroSynth releases though swarm devs with such GPUs will go make support be a thing though

uneven pulsar
#

School life with developer
Is hard bro 🙁 esp
My most friends that say me hacker

#

FOCUS on study with fixing bugs on llm side

olive sable
uneven pulsar
olive sable
#

No?

uneven pulsar
olive sable
#

Idk, i dont attend the mathclasses KEKW

opaque sigil
#

i'd pull up the chat logs from when you were like "smh i pay for the classes i'll obviously go there" but i'm too lazy to search for that

uneven pulsar
#

Why i choose pcm
Physics chemistry maths

olive sable
#

I had 7hrs of math in middle school, and for this bachelor they're starting from the basics

opaque sigil
#

yeah that's how it usually goes

#

start from the basics and do it in a more formal and thorough way enub

olive sable
#

They're still on vectors rn iirc

#

I attend all the other classes tho

#

Most of them...

opaque sigil
uneven pulsar
olive sable
#

Imagine having language classes

#

Couldnt be me

opaque sigil
#

i'm still annoyed, i wanted to take russian in my 2nd semester to get the 6 soft skills credits i needed but then they removed that and halved the amount of credits you get from language classes

uneven pulsar
#

Littery i need to learning Sanskrit my sack 🙁

rigid snow
#

read the username and bio of leon vedalCry

uneven pulsar
rigid snow
#

u can't make this shit up

obsidian mantle
#

neuroMonkaOMEGA i?

rigid snow
#

immediately changed the bio ICANT

#

for the record it said something like "this is an alt account of letter_i, no bots used"

rigid snow
#

don't you want to hide that

uneven pulsar
rigid snow
#

?? admitting to ban evasion

uneven pulsar
maiden geyser
#

or is it a discord-wide ban?

rigid snow
#

i don't remember what exactly triggered it but he has reasons for perma

uneven pulsar
rigid snow
#

ah yea

maiden geyser
#

oh, so a discord-wide

rigid snow
#

no

#

in this server

uneven pulsar
rigid snow
#

permabanned

uneven pulsar
#

IM TRYING SPEAK IN ONE WORD

maiden geyser
#

ohhh, that discord affiliate stuff

maiden geyser
uneven pulsar
#

IM HERE IS FOR CHATTING PURPOSE AND SHARING PROBLEM THAT I HAD

#

BY THE WAY DAVE
LOOKS MY PROFILE THO

rigid snow
short ingot
uneven pulsar
short ingot
#

may I ask, what did you mean?

#

is this i?

#

yup, letter_i

uneven pulsar
short ingot
#

but for real tho, my OCR implementation is just slow. (I blame pytesseract)

#

plus vm stuff

uneven pulsar
short ingot
#

wdym, "wth vm"?

#

VM is an virtual machine instance

#

for hosting another operating system within a host machine

#

Obviously needed

#

amd's latest processor btw

uneven pulsar
short ingot
#

Its a windows integration for neuro, after all

#

I chose windows, because most apps are for windows

uneven pulsar
short ingot
#

The integration is supposed to give neuro, a wider access to a bunch of integrations, without actually coding the integration specifically

short ingot
#

a valid point

silent cloak
#

why is MinGW a pain in my balls

#

i have to write my own cross platform file dialog popup now

brisk laurel
#

how do i update my bios

#

and some drivers

maiden geyser
silent cloak
#

Helps if u still have the OG box

#

ImGui my beloved

#

Has anyone used the C++20 modules yet?

#

Are they stable or still na?

nocturne olive
patent shard
# midnight sigil UVR was there already

Yep
Which you could find better results with uvr even back in 2020
Granted, it wasn't a drastic leap from Spleeter, at that point....
Old stuff was voice remover architecture, I don't think mdx-net architecture was released for uvr until June 2022
Demucs was around the same time? Both mdx-net and demucs were toward second half/end of 2021, but idk if they worked with uvr until mid 2022

#

Although, to be fair, I don't think the mdx-net models were really good until 2022, anyway

young plover
silent cloak
#

i could do with their compile benefits

rigid snow
young plover
olive sable
#

i have finished my C# midterm exam

#

ez

silent cloak
#

based

silent cloak
#

it takes so damn long for the linker to do shit

#

i think I just need to switch to only use forward declarations or something with how slow it is

#

and its only going to get worse as my project expands

#

99% of the project time is waiting for the damn thing to build

sage crag
#

nyum

#

nyum

#

nyum

stray dragon
#

nyum

sage crag
#

newt

#

new t

stray dragon
#

there's a new t???

#

there can only be one.

sage crag
#

@t02

stray dragon
#

oh we have a hierarchy

#

i thought you meant an even newer t

sage crag
stray dragon
#

oh i forgot

#

@true hemlock happy birthday

olive sable
#

happy birthday @true hemlock

sage crag
#

late

stray dragon
#

better late than never

olive sable
#

idfk when anyones birthday here is

sage crag
#

wrong

stray dragon
#

?!

sage crag
#

you know my birthday or you explod

olive sable
#

erm

stray dragon
olive sable
#

i guess ill explode then

stray dragon
#

💥

sage crag
#

yee explod

olive sable
#

i dont think you've ever told me your birthday

sage crag
#

why havent you osmosed it from conversation enub

olive sable
#

cuz i never saw it in conversation i guess

#

you never wanted to say your age so i never expected you to say your birthday

sage crag
#

you are:

  • samuel
  • vanuel
  • manuel
    but not:
  • scanning chat hourly for birthdays
olive sable
#

correct

sage crag
#

samuel🔺

stray dragon
#

proxmox my beloathed

#

stop crashing my windows

sage crag
stray dragon
#

oh disk checking takes a while.

olive sable
#

i put all the new parts on the printer including the new mainboard, but i still get firmware issues

#

at least flashing the firmware onto the board works now

#

i jsut need to find which firmware works

stray dragon
#

well i've been forced to take a break from computer for 1.5 hours

#

time to take a long ass shower

#

and pray that proxmox doesn't kill windows mid-chkdsk

olive sable
sage crag
olive sable
#

🛀

olive sable
dry crest
dapper kernel
olive sable
#

honeslt i have no clue what that code before the forever loop is doing

#

you can break it with negative numbers tho

#

i guess specifying "only numbers" isnt enough

stray dragon
#

am back

olive sable
#

no

#

you t

stray dragon
#

fuck

olive sable
#

t

stray dragon
#

hi sam

olive sable
#

hi t

hearty notch
#

gm

young plover
silent cloak
clear sedge
#

i did it
i fully moved back to windows

#

linux is just too complicated

#

😔

hearty notch
#

just run wsl when you want it tbqh

clear sedge
#

i don't want linux at all

hearty notch
#

welcome back tho

clear sedge
#

linux sucks

#

😔

olive sable
#

shame on you

hearty notch
#

lol idk I just use Ubuntu for some things and it feels nice

clear sedge
#

i'm giggling my fucking ass off

hearty notch
#

I haven't tried the arch types tho

#

oh it's a skin I get it

clear sedge
nocturne olive
#

Mint is designed to be really intuitive for Windows users

olive sable
#

?

nocturne olive
#

Wa?

olive sable
#

wdym?

#

not even a graphical interface?

hearty notch
#

we're getting pranked

olive sable
#

Rain is ragebaiting us

clear sedge
#

i have windows in a vm so i can cross-compile my game for it and know it works

olive sable
nocturne olive
#

Sil

clear sedge
amber fractal
#

Rain Warning: Ragebait in chat

obsidian mantle
olive sable
dusky nimbus
#

wanted to ask here since got curious but most of my CS-friends are at class FNCPensive

What are your guys' thoughts on chatbots to help learn/figure out coding? Is there a prefered one? Are they too unreliable to learn anything from?

I'm curious since otherwise was going to do a mix of trying to look up and find youtube tutorials to try and learn the ropes of Unreal Engine and checking to see if ChatGPT/Gemini can help somehow HorizonSip

sage crag
dusky nimbus
#

Just to clarify because I feel like I should, I don't intent to have a chatbot write code and I copy paste it mindlessly, I want to learn Unreal Engine's "Blueprint" system and was told I might have to learn some C++

sage crag
#

dont use chatbots they will create a dependence

#

they are only really helpful to people who already know about what they are asking about

#

if you dont know, there's no way of telling if its lying to you (hallucinating) or telling the truth

#

if you have a programming question, ask it here or some other place where real people can and will help AYAYA

olive sable
#

good for debugging, bad for writing complex code, decent at simple code with proper context.

vscode copilot often writes decent functions for me cuz it can see the rest of my file so knows what im trying to do, altho it still struggles with complex loops and such.

its the worst at filling in functions on private libraries, since its just guessing what parameters it needs

clear sedge
signal trout
dusky nimbus
clear sedge
#

i'd recommend just learning by doing

#

literally just fuck around and find out

#

that's the best way to do things

olive sable
signal trout
#

I do know people who tried to learn to code using AI in the last year or two, and they always ended up with code they didn't fully understand; it was a mess

dusky nimbus
#

guess to start, do any of you use UE?

olive sable
dusky nimbus
#

friend made this in UE 5.3 so we're doing that since UE 5.6 wasn't compatible with the UE 5.3 "project" he made

clear sedge
#

i'm in the process of writing my own engine

dusky nimbus
clear sedge
#

which will inevitably fail and thus i'll write my second engine

#

which will inevitably fail and thus i'll write my third engine

#

which will inevitably-

olive sable
#

skill issue

#

im only on my 2nd engine, only changing cuz i switched to c++

dusky nimbus
olive sable
#

i havent tried many

#

copilot has vscode integration tho so its kinda effortless

clear sedge
hearty notch
clear sedge
#

the first one was a minecraft engine in c++

hearty notch
#

takes money tho

#

copilot prob best value if you're ok with not top of the line

clear sedge
#

or well, the firstest one was a mario 64 clone in either c or c++ (i can't remembr enub) that i abandoned after i got text rendering working neurowheeze

dusky nimbus
#

yeah I'd hope that my planned loop of

figure out how to fuck around -> fuck around [optional: find out] -> figure out how to fuck around

works so probably won't need too high end HelixEhh

hearty notch
#

inside copilot my tip is the gpt models are more dry and precise, Claude is more personable and a better teacher if you wanna ask things

#

despite saying Claude codes the best I think gpt-5 is better on a decent amount of tasks

mighty thorn
#

Codex CLI via ChatGPT Plus has pretty generous token quotas

hearty notch
#

I just like the claude experience more and it feels faster and more interactive

#

yea the codex cli is honestly probably more reliable if you just want to get to solid working code

#

than Claude even

#

it just chugs along slowly and implements exactly what you ask for

#

you have to be more precise with formulation too

mighty thorn
#

Idk what the usage limit is on the $200 ChatGPT plan but if it’s 10x the $20 plan you could literally never write another line of code in your life

hearty notch
#

yea

mighty thorn
#

Like doing multiple projects simultaneously

hearty notch
#

I've been doing that lmfao

#

500k loc in 3 months

mighty thorn
#

Hell I had nothing better to do with a visa so I just rotate two plus accounts and that has yet to leave me without it for more than an hour

#

I mostly just write pseudo code line by line and let it translate it to whatever language

#

Unless it’s so hyper specific that I just do it myself

#

Or against OpenAI’s puritan definition of morality

hearty notch
#

i talk in constraints and specs and then iterate on its architectural design till i like it then i have it draw a detailed spec then i have it make a prioritized checklist then i have it build the scaffolding then i have it harden the scaffolding then i build the next sprint etc

#

i have a pretty deep process lmao

#

i built a 17 part night action resolver for forum mafia that can handle over 100 night action role interactions

#

in elixir

#

it took about a month

#

it got refactored 2.5 times

#

it originally had modules as roles which was horrendous then i had it convert to a pipeline that takes declarative spec roles

mighty thorn
#

The day people can run GPT-4o/5 quality models (actually that quality, not just benchmaxxed 7b slop models) on their own machine is the day that coding becomes a hobby instead of a profession

hearty notch
#

i mean codings a hobby rn on the 20/month models you just have to pay 20/mo

#

there are plenty of hobbies with a higher cost floor than that

mighty thorn
#

Nilered shivering in the corner

hearty notch
#

also i mean coding for free was always a hobby

#

coding was always one of the most accessible hobbies there were past needing a comp and needing a decent comp for certain areas ig

stark needle
#

kaine corneko

mighty thorn
#

Hey

#

I know him

#

Alright good talk

stark needle
mighty thorn
#

Am on bus

stark needle
mighty thorn
#

Am curious about performance

mighty thorn
#

That you know of

#

In here

stark needle
stark needle
#

potentially

mighty thorn
#

Oh hey

#

I know that guy

stark needle
#

what do u wanna test

mighty thorn
#

Just know that if it’s of a similar compute capacity to 3060 I will be using it instead of giving my server the upgrade it desperately needs

stark needle
#

Tflops wise it's like a 3090

mighty thorn
#

That’s actually not that bad
(Bandwidth, top is Spark bottom is 3060)

stark needle
#

It will still be faster cause 3060 is much lower compute

#

But yea decoding is capped

mighty thorn
stark needle
#

For llms specifically

stark needle
#

just don't expect high performance when doing only llm inference

nocturne olive
stark needle
nocturne olive
#

Weird

#

It's a kinda scammy device

stark needle
#

Nah it's fine it just sucks at running llms specifically

nocturne olive
#

It also can't be used in a PC as a CUDA accelerator, completely pointless

mighty thorn
#

The thing is

#

For $3000

#

I could have 96GB of RTX Titan

stark needle
mighty thorn
#

Or 72GB of 3090

nocturne olive
stark needle
nocturne olive
#

Weird

#

Either way I'd rather have multiple 3090s

stark needle
#

It shows up in nvidia-smi as a gb10

stark needle
nocturne olive
#

That thing is 3000 right? I could get, what, 5 3090s at least

stark needle
#

To get many 3090s

brisk laurel
nocturne olive
#

And way more bandwidth

stark needle
#

4 3090s would be goated system

amber fractal
#

I've always assumed that people just misunderstood the use case of the spark and it should be decent at pre-training

stark needle
#

I know someone that has a 5 3090s system 😭😭

nocturne olive
#

For the price of just one of those weird thingies you can get 5x 3090

olive sable
#

ReallyInnocent how many pcie lanes do you need for 4 3090's?

nocturne olive
#

At least 4

amber fractal
stark needle
#

Assuming running at x8 bifurcation

nocturne olive
olive sable
#

in theory, if i have 2 x pcie4x16, and i split each in 2?

stark needle
#

X8 is fine

nocturne olive
olive sable
#

oh

#

then wtf is my pc running?

amber fractal
#

X1 via mining board however, death

nocturne olive
#

CPU + chipset

#

The chipset has extra lanes, which are usual over a x4 or x8 actual from the CPU

stark needle
#

Yea youd need sth like a cheap ass 1950x or sth

dusky nimbus
#

any recommendation between these three? SayoNervous

stark needle
#

And then you'd get 4x16 lanes

nocturne olive
dusky nimbus
#

yt tutorial just said "pick one" I don't know the difference

stark needle
nocturne olive
#

My 3090 is running on a x4 link from the chipset

olive sable
#
1x PCIe 4.0/3.0 x16 slot (PCI_E1)
        3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ support PCIe 4.0 x16 mode
        2nd Gen AMD Ryzen™ support PCIe 3.0x16 mode
        Ryzen™ 4000 G-Series support PCIe 3.0 x16 mode
        Ryzen™ with Radeon™ Vega Graphics and 2nd Gen AMD Ryzen™ with Radeon™ Graphics support PCIe 3.0 x8 mode
    1x PCIe 4.0/3.0 x16 slot (PCI_E3), supports x4 mode
    2x PCIe 3.0 x1 slots

i have wehatever this is

nocturne olive
#

It works perfectly fine

nocturne olive
stark needle
olive sable
#

no im pretty sure it just supports x4 and can do the x16

nocturne olive
#

Nope

amber fractal
nocturne olive
#

That's what "supports x4 mode" usually means

olive sable
#

oh

#

bwaa

nocturne olive
#

The "supports something mode" is marketing terms for "this is the max speed of the slot"

#

Either way my 3090 runs perfectly fine in a x4 slot

olive sable
#

The AMD Ryzen 9 5950X has 24 PCIe 4.0 lanes directly from the CPU sadge

nocturne olive
#

Yeah you'd need a Threadripper, Epyc or Xeon to get really much more than that

dusky nimbus
#

also not sure what to do for these SayoNervous

mighty thorn
#

Shadow can you just buy a GB200 and let us all use it

olive sable
#

i can run 3 3090's if i forsake every other tpye of pcie, and 2 if i decide to have an operating system that isnt on a usb

amber fractal
stark needle
stark needle
nocturne olive
#

Imagine how cool it would be to have a Threadripper + multi-3090 or multi-48GB 4090 system

dusky nimbus
#

instead it was opening a blank command prompt

nocturne olive
olive sable
#

i think the recent cpu's with pcie 5.0 could work?

nocturne olive
nocturne olive
olive sable
stark needle
nocturne olive
#

So true

#

Too bad I'm broke

stark needle
#

same

nocturne olive
#

Else I would get that and immediately build the best NeuroSynth ever

olive sable
mighty thorn
olive sable
#

we can split the 5.0 into 2 4.0's

nocturne olive
#

You can't really

#

That's not how it works

olive sable
#

but what if i could

nocturne olive
#

If I had that kind of money though
I would 100%

#

No doubt

clear sedge
#

it's just bloat

dusky nimbus
#

can I edit it

clear sedge
#

you can edit it later yeah

dusky nimbus
clear sedge
#

there'll be a modify button next to it after it's done installing

amber fractal
olive sable
dusky nimbus
#

these two right? HorizonSip

clear sedge
nocturne olive
dusky nimbus
#

I remember Sam recommended Copilot for the code helper thing

clear sedge
#

you can leave it on if you really want but i don't recommend it

olive sable
#

its just pcie bifurcation no?