#Need help cutting card in my Evelyn the Covetous deck

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warped flare
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it is playable but has issues at times

novel bramble
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Gtg back to work but I'll look at it. You want me to check how I can make it better or more janky?

warped flare
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its not supposed to be too janky

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just fast enough to be close to B3

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i think the raceways are no longer in there but outside of mana base its mostly accurate

warped flare
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T6: draw 7, all lands. i am experiencing the same thing in my games

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even tho my land count is already so low

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i normally dont like the idea of including annihilator eldrazi, kozilek is the especially because it draws me cards

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but the draws just never helps for some reason

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i guess i now have the rakdos MDFC to add in

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need little bit more ramp

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or early fixing

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or draw into land drop

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[[$valakut awakening]] no way

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warped flare
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this card is what made the below $250 go over to around $260

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lucky i got that so long ago

novel bramble
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Yeah im guessing the price of cards needs to be very low, because I can see a couple easy upgrades already

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I have a deja vu of telling you about [[descend into avernus]]

zealous ridgeBOT
novel bramble
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[[Twilight prophet]] draws and group slug

zealous ridgeBOT
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Creature — Vampire Cleric
Flying
Ascend (If you control ten or more permanents, you get the city's blessing for the rest of the game.)
At the beginning of your upkeep, if you have the city's blessing, reveal the top card of your library and put it into your hand. Each opponent loses X life and you gain X life, where X is that card's mana value.
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novel bramble
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[[Agate instigator]]

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[[Molten gatekeeper]]

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novel bramble
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[[Rubble rouser]]

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novel bramble
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[[Slash reptile rampager]]

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novel bramble
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[[Enrage flamecaster]]

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novel bramble
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[[Shadow of the goblin]]

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novel bramble
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[[Maximum carnage]] I lile this one. Protection for you, then ramp for rakdos, then go ham

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warped flare
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i only dont have max carnage got the shadow of goblins too. i dont have much cast from exile stuff but it is a low cost continuous draw

novel bramble
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[[Pumpkin bombs]] Some jank

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
warped flare
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even with delay trigger

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novel bramble
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warped flare
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its with the assumption that rakdos reduce everything by 6

novel bramble
warped flare
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so it is showing the "real" mana value of the cards

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but not the total

novel bramble
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[[Shadow of the goblin]] fits pretty well then

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warped flare
novel bramble
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I only sorted by type and mana value

warped flare
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i cant cast commander until damage been dealt

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100 cards in the deck

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i think my haster can be decreased

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and i may have to swap swiftboots to graves to avoid the equip cost

novel bramble
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[[Shadow mysterious assassin]]

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warped flare
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nothing really trigger the shadow of goblin burn. its jsut discard draw similar to phyrexian arena

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i like that one, dont know the swap

novel bramble
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Landfall deals 1 damage to everyone

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Its free damage, can let yoi cast rakdos and get value even if hes already on the field

warped flare
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warped flare
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deck doesnt make tokens

warped flare
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i have 2 cards that does that

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i own shadow goblin

novel bramble
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Oh my bad. Skipped the part where lands were included in the not from hand

warped flare
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you are thinking of the valaku enchantment but that one is end step burn

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yeah, same sentence lol

novel bramble
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Nah im skipping anything that cannot be triggered in upkeep or mainphase

warped flare
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fair

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the starter stuff i can upgrade but the ratio is around 20 some cards

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enders are usually the expensive cards both mana and price wise

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maximum carnage is a card i havent been able to find

novel bramble
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[[Post mortem prof]]

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warped flare
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so maybe i want descent into avernus taken out of the other deck whenever iplay this one

warped flare
novel bramble
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[[Keen duelist]] is it in there?

zealous ridgeBOT
novel bramble
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Back to work 👋

warped flare
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oh that was your break? lol

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duelist in (consider : cards i own) another deck that is more consistant with with getting high cost creature where this one may end up with smaller things. but the burn and card advantage is nice if i can get something that does both in here

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maybe what i need is actually turning burn into draw like the [[virtue of courage]] effect

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warped flare
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so you can say, prophet is currently taking that role of keen duelist

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consider are cards i own, sideboards are expensive things i thought of

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tagged consider are cuts

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if it is burn i would really want that [[ancient cellarspawn]]

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warped flare
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otherwise i may as well go infinite

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this deck may want those creature loops [[astral golem]] i mean [[ancestral statue]]

zealous ridgeBOT
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No card found for “astral golem”

novel bramble
warped flare
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rip

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i guess there are lot of down time for rest

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so its kinda nice if oyu can withstand it

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if i am doing something i like, i dont really get burn out

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and i know most people get burn out

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thats why i think it is bad to be over investing into a hobby and lose interest in it

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so far, your "burn out" phase and "mentality change" of commander is all within my expectations 🤣

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this is so stupidly expensive

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those are things i would proxy without a beat if i want to play them

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if i can fit it into the same deck using [[roar of resistance]] it would work nicely

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warped flare
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what it takes to get a rampant growth outside of green with extra steps

novel bramble
warped flare
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not that new anymore [[$butterhorn nissa animus]] is like years ago

zealous ridgeBOT
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No card found for “butterhorn nissa animus”

warped flare
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[[$bitterthorn nissa animus]]

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warped flare
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each set dont really go down in price because of reprint

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only the reprinted copy would be lower since the old copies get buries under collection and not circulate in the market

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i guess 'excluding' older players sort of have that effect

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reprints stopped being reprint long ago

warped flare
warped flare
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i also figured out that something i've been doing "wrong" on the certain type of ramp/card advantage
because there is technically something we can call 'mana advantage' which is sort of what bounce lands are

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they are not directly 1:1 like lands but closer to temporary mana like treasures

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usually with enough tempo set back or loops to jumb through to get that extra bit of mana advantage

warped flare
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[[champion of the path]] actually looks so strong as a budget terror of the peak?

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Creature — Elemental Sorcerer
As an additional cost to cast this spell, behold an Elemental and exile it. (Exile an Elemental you control or an Elemental card from your hand.)
Whenever another Elemental you control enters, it deals damage equal to its power to each opponent.
When this creature leaves the battlefield, return the exiled card to its owner's hand.
7/3

warped flare
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perhaps this is where the all types + [[harmonic prodigy]] matters

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a trigger happy deck

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warped flare
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every few cards can put out a sky high triggers on the stack

novel bramble
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Couldnt get my 4-mana out on T3, which meant I didnt draw a card and had to curve out a turn later.

warped flare
novel bramble
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depends on the pod, but yeah some games are very cutthroat

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can literally be won because you were first player

warped flare
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yeah not the best environment for me since i want to troll and try to play optimally but with the worst cards possible

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i find a HP [[silver shroud costume]] below $10 and that seems like a good buy so i ordered it

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warped flare
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oh wow my is definitely not the fancy one

novel bramble
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Theres always a guy or two playing shit deck with 0 interactions that will skew the expected balance toward the first player or combo player

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Question, When you Rummage, can you discard a card with Dredge, then draw that same card from the grave? Example: I'm playing [[Fear of missing out]] or w/e Rummage effect. I Discard [[Shenanigans]]. Can I draw back shenanigans right away?

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warped flare
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also dredge dodges draw trigger so no smoothering tithe

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thinking about buying those two. cards...
Storage Matrix
Pattern of rebirth

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but dont really have a deck to play them in atm

novel bramble
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Thats good to know

warped flare
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you have a problem seeing me play [[storage matrix]] huh jk i know you were replying to the dedge interaction

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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isnt the most broken dedge mill 8 or something

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or just 6

warped flare
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only saw this so far [[!Tom bert and william]] the idea of being able to [[!march of the machine]] on them

warped flare
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i basically dont even care about that first ability XD

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its a legendary [[Great good]] with a small price to pay

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warped flare
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and much less draw back by Drawing back more

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BUT MARCH OF THE MACHINES

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infinite 5/5 sac etb ltb sac outlet big beefy body

novel bramble
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Yeah I see the vision

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its a lot of mana tho

warped flare
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what part of jank do you not understand

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its either infinite or it doesnt matter

warped flare
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since you use play some of the best mana sources, did you ever have a chance to use [[manascape refra]]

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warped flare
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the fact it can copy legendary lands without lotus field type of downside imo is really strong, but its hard to use without land tutor or just a consistent strong land meta

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the best land i own is probably the flipped into gaea craddle one

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or urza trons that can type for 3

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i cant image using something worse than manalith even if i can cast it for free

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[[Transdimensional Bovine]] while i think i may pick up this one next time i see it

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warped flare
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the super BoP

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there are at least 3 birds inside that cow

novel bramble
warped flare
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lol

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i dont like T3 on curve commanders

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or i like when the commander isnt the first card that come out onto my board

warped flare
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know about it already

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there is also the mono blue playing all colours

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i think this type of deck is more interesting to play against than to brew because of the limited card choice there is in the game

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it doesnt really let me use anything i want as this type of deck building is restricted by that colour shifted old cards that will not get reprinted or future upgrades; so if you like old mechanic, able to afford any (important key) cards and fine with no new cards to add to the deck, its a nice janky machine type of fidge toy

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ofc there is also my personal bias toward colours and i would probably say very different things if it is a red black deck

warped flare
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[[!hofri ghostforge]] + land tokens seems fun

warped flare
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although i expect it to be in the 99 in that case

novel bramble
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He comes in the Lorehold 99s

warped flare
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yeah i know, but i meant building a deck without a commander to start with

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making land tokens

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[[noyan dar roil shaper]] in the 99 too maybe

zealous ridgeBOT
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Legendary Creature — Merfolk Ally
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, you may put three +1/+1 counters on target land you control. If you do, that land becomes a 0/0 Elemental creature with haste that's still a land.
After many years as a lullmage, Noyan Dar turned his talents from allaying Zendikar's fury to the considerably easier task of rousing it.
4/4

warped flare
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jeskai token matters spellslinger

novel bramble
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thoughts on [[Katilda dawnhart]] in Lorehold? She's strong but I feel she's too win more?

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novel bramble
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[[KAtilda dawnhart martyr]]

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Legendary Creature — Spirit Warlock
Flying, lifelink, protection from Vampires
Katilda's power and toughness are each equal to the number of permanents you control that are Spirits and/or enchantments.
Disturb mana3manawmanaw (You may cast this card from your graveyard transformed for its disturb cost.)
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Katilda's Rising Dawn
Legendary Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature has flying, lifelink, and protection from Vampires, and it gets +X/+X, where X is the number of permanents you control that are Spirits and/or enchantments.
If Katilda's Rising Dawn would be put into a graveyard from anywhere, exile it instead.

warped flare
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what do you mean lorehold

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oooh wrong name lol

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the spirit aura thingy

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link me that lorehold deck again just want to check for card types

novel bramble
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I'll probably cut [[Emeria the sky ruin]] for another untapped land. Its too hard to get 7 plains out

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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btw did you play that Vazi deck?

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unless the deck is like 85+% plains its a really harsh condition that get overlooked for how good free reanimate seems to be

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but it basically need a minimal of 8 lands to start doing something

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and its not like there are any crazy sheningans from obeka chaining upkeep or yavimiya into tons of land drops without green

warped flare
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less than 3-5 spirits the damage is kinda insignificant imo

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since most of the spirits already have flying, i guess you need commanders double strike for some explosive damage

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its probably better with the silverqur commander as a backup aura and a big creature to attack or block with

warped flare
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i am thinking of ways to use [[storage matrix]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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do i want the 'nombo' as a piece to 'protect' something else such as the real synergy card [[awakening]] so that they cant destroy either one without giving me what i want

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warped flare
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or just spam spells and make tons of temporary tokens with [[rionya fire dancer]] and alike

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warped flare
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i dont plan on doing [[blind obedience]] because that just feels gross

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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[[Reverence]] i would proxy this type of things [[$Reverence]]

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cards i dont care much about, want to play test but no interested in buying

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seems more fun than the typical and generic ghostly prison

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and maybe the deck has ...[[void winnower]][[meekstone]] oh fuck thats just full on stax XD

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warped flare
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partly i guess

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without meekstone, it create incentive to attack with small tokens

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[[sands of time]] incentive to tap down everything

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warped flare
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[[angels trumpet]] incentive to attack everytime

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warped flare
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doesnt stop the game from going but it s a lot of extra mental energy to force mini games within the game

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only in combination it somewhat becomes staxy but technically they are still doing things, its like goading without goading on them

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and possible with mono white?

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[[$gauntlet of might]]

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warped flare
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the 30th anni version XD the most expensive legal proxy

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i guess i would just be using my normal [[manaflare]] shared with the table for that

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warped flare
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or any of those cards which i own most of

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the below $2.50 ones

novel bramble
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Hey man, sorry it took so long to reply; had a death in the close family so it has been pretty hard.

I never played that Vazi deck because I just didn't like how it goldfished, even assuming people would use up the treasure it felt like kingmaking instead of grouphug/slug.

If I were to proxy things stax wouldnt be my first idea lol. How dare you.
But Stax with a choice for the player is fine. Lots better. Sadly most of these are overcosted in mana imo.

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I also been tinkering on Toph. Added some interaction and removed cards that I wasnt happy to draw. Replaced the One Ring with Rishkar's expertise too for testing

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Ill probably reduce the amount of basic lands for better mulligans too, the deck manafix well enough that blood moon effects arent damaging me that much

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I got screwed hard on colors last game

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Maybe more fetches since it synergize well with toph

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Or I go with Check lands

warped flare
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but most of the time the context, impression, and mechanical game play are all misjudged

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mana denial is hard stax that stops the game from going, while certain conditions may shut down certain types of decks until a removal is found

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i think the ones that force you to make different and potentially wrong decision due to lack of experience and forsight are the most interesting

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giving some form of choice should be where stax brings MORE to the game rather than taking something away

warped flare
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no worries, take your time to reply, everyone have irl life stuff to deal with

novel bramble
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I'm going with fetches, tbh its not comparable considering it ramps with Toph and the deck run enough manafix to make them into actual lands anyway. I jsut gotta be careful to have enough fetchable lands

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Do I put Urborg in though?

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Might be good

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10 fetchables, 7 fetches

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I'll put in urborg instead of one fetch I think