#MTG Color Pie Scripts

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tawdry nest
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The red of philo is also the poison

nocturne hamlet
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I'm just not that sure about blue honestly

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it just doesn't sit right with me

tawdry nest
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I'm very sure on green at least

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I could see simic, gruul, or mono green

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I'm leaning more and more mono green

austere iris
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I think I see mono-green more than gruul

nocturne hamlet
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I guess we'll go mono green

tawdry nest
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Alright
I'll leave the other ones open though

austere iris
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I want to argue that gaining another ability is, itself, a very blue thing mechanically

nocturne hamlet
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but it's still not a direct consequence of your actions

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it's done even before the game starts

austere iris
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it's a consequence of your ability

tawdry nest
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It's just having

nocturne hamlet
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yeah

austere iris
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it's green in the sense that it's effectively another player

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can't be more natural than that

nocturne hamlet
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green white I don't think it's an option still

tawdry nest
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I think we move on and revisit it if everyone else is alright with that

nocturne hamlet
tawdry nest
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Matron

nocturne hamlet
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red white

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ordered chaos

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and rules

tawdry nest
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White 100%

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I don't think it's red at all

nocturne hamlet
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nvm

tawdry nest
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I'm thinking Black White or Blue White

nocturne hamlet
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it doesn't shuffle

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I think there's an argument for WUB

tawdry nest
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I could see it

nocturne hamlet
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just blue white, I don't see it

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I think either black white, or blue black white

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why do i notice just now how odd the word white is

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don't mind me

austere iris
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white blue, it's about setting rules, and manipulating positions

tawdry nest
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It's about control

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Which is blue white

nocturne hamlet
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this is sacrifice of some sorts

austere iris
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no?

nocturne hamlet
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sacrifice of agency

tawdry nest
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I could see adding black though

austere iris
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rules setting, which is white

tawdry nest
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Taking away options in the persute of order is very orzhov

nocturne hamlet
austere iris
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I can see orzhov under the argument that it's setting a rule, then letting yourself circumvent that rule

nocturne hamlet
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do you see the three colors pal?

austere iris
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it can definitely be esper

nocturne hamlet
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let's just stick to it I think

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this is both a mix of white blue and white black

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so esper with predominant white

tawdry nest
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I'm good with that

nocturne hamlet
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alr

austere iris
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sure

tawdry nest
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Voudon

nocturne hamlet
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green black?

tawdry nest
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Green Black I think

austere iris
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green black sounds about right

tawdry nest
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Alright

nocturne hamlet
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might be green black white

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but I think green black is enough

tawdry nest
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Yeah, I agree

austere iris
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I can see it being white for not letting the living (other than itself) vote

nocturne hamlet
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yeah

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it takes control

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and favours the dead

tawdry nest
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Yeah
But I think it's more about helping the dead regain what lost

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I could see white though

nocturne hamlet
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indeed

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if it didn't hinder the living, I would say green black 100%

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not letting the living vote isn't natural in itself

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you might argue it's a price to pay to fit it in black

tawdry nest
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I could see abzan

austere iris
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it's black because it can still vote, meaning that on day 1 it unilaterally decides the vote

nocturne hamlet
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I think it should be green black with a maybe white

austere iris
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yeah

tawdry nest
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Great

nocturne hamlet
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now sects and violets?

tawdry nest
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Judge

tawdry nest
nocturne hamlet
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judge is bmr?

tawdry nest
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Judge is Dimir

nocturne hamlet
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remind me what the judge did

tawdry nest
tawdry nest
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once per game

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No matter what

nocturne hamlet
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it's very controlly

tawdry nest
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I'm thinking Dimir

austere iris
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very black, U and W secondary

nocturne hamlet
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what's dimir

tawdry nest
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Blue Black

austere iris
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blue black

nocturne hamlet
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blue black makes sense

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white, not completely sure

tawdry nest
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I'm not sure about white

austere iris
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white in it's ability to pardon

tawdry nest
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There are no rules

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No order

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Just what the judge wants

austere iris
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protecting others is very white

nocturne hamlet
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I don't think in this case the act of protecting is very white

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i might be wrong

tawdry nest
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But it's not really helping others
It's stopping what town wants

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This is very fake judge imo
Which I think is much more black than white

nocturne hamlet
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I think we should stick to blue black

tawdry nest
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White is certainly more likely than green red imo

nocturne hamlet
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that's sure

austere iris
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historically, corrupt judges are also WB

tawdry nest
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I don't think it's esper though

nocturne hamlet
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if we think about it lore wise, sure, white would be in there

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but strictly ability wise

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I don't think white fits

austere iris
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I don't think the ability is blue

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I'd sooner say mono-black

nocturne hamlet
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it's very controlly

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but not order

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and blue is pretty capable of changing outcomes

tawdry nest
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I feel like this is much like Assassin

austere iris
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I could argue the opposite as well

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a judge ability needs to be used in the moment

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you have a fairly short amount of time to decide to use it or not

nocturne hamlet
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that's more blue than white tho

austere iris
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that's red

nocturne hamlet
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red blue black?

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nah, doesn't sound right

austere iris
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I'd argue red black over blue black

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though I prefer mono-black

tawdry nest
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I'd disagree

nocturne hamlet
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I also disagree

tawdry nest
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I'm coming around to orzhov

austere iris
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I do still prefer orzhov, yeah

tawdry nest
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I also like dimir still

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I however don't like esper

nocturne hamlet
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if I were to choose, I would choose dimir still

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I think we're at a stalemate here

austere iris
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we can just mark it down as Black (White? Blue?)

nocturne hamlet
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I guess so

tawdry nest
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I think that's best

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2 more

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Bishop

nocturne hamlet
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unless we also want to do the experimental ones

tawdry nest
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Red

austere iris
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red

nocturne hamlet
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red white?

tawdry nest
austere iris
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possible, but I like mono-red

tawdry nest
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I also like mono red

nocturne hamlet
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it's not strictly chaotic

tawdry nest
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Duel color would be boros though

nocturne hamlet
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or impulsive

austere iris
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white in that it doesn't allow other nominations to be made

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red in that it's entirely at the whims of something beyond it's control

nocturne hamlet
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it doesn't cause chaos, it's just a rule everyone is aware of

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and plays accordingly

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as much as they can

austere iris
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but importantly, nobody can actually control it

tawdry nest
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Boros is good

nocturne hamlet
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I think boros is the right call

tawdry nest
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An orderly rule, that nobody can control

austere iris
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I'm content with boros

tawdry nest
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Gangster

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Final one

nocturne hamlet
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it was the one that kills if they agree to it?

tawdry nest
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Black

tawdry nest
nocturne hamlet
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I somehow think it shouldn't be mono colored

austere iris
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red black

nocturne hamlet
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the fact you put people against each other

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somehow

tawdry nest
nocturne hamlet
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might be

tawdry nest
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But I'm not seeing red

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It's super orderly

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I'm thinking orzov

nocturne hamlet
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it's not that orderly

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what is orzov

tawdry nest
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Black white

nocturne hamlet
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nah

tawdry nest
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But like the gangster proposes a kill

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Then one nieghbor agrees or doesn't

nocturne hamlet
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red white black?

tawdry nest
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And then the other nieghbor dies or doesn't

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That's super orderly

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I don't see red

austere iris
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I can see white black

nocturne hamlet
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not green

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blue probably not

tawdry nest
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White black?

nocturne hamlet
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I think this might just be mono black

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after all

tawdry nest
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I can see that

austere iris
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I'd argue that getting 1 player to kill another player is red

tawdry nest
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I disagree

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I think that's very black

nocturne hamlet
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I think so too

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maybe blue black

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take control, make the deals

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and learn

tawdry nest
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I don't see blue though

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Like the deals aren't inherently blue

austere iris
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it also doesn't learn anything

nocturne hamlet
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it's a sort of social/alignment information

austere iris
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that's not really part of the ability, though

nocturne hamlet
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but it still requires the consent

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which is important in itself

austere iris
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consent is the main issue with it being mono-black

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white black perhaps

nocturne hamlet
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I guess so at this point

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also, sad all the other characters are already done

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only fables remain

tawdry nest
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We still have all expiremental townsfolk, minions, and demons

nocturne hamlet
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we do?

tawdry nest
nocturne hamlet
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oh, alr

tawdry nest
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Are we sticking with white black

nocturne hamlet
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sure

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are we down to head that experimental road then?

tawdry nest
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I'm going to bed personally

nocturne hamlet
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@austere iris I'm assuming you're also going to bed

austere iris
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it's 4 am

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I sure wish I had a reasonable sleep schedule

tawdry nest
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Wow that's late

austere iris
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that said yeah this is enough for a night

nocturne hamlet
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it's 10 am for me

round aurora
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I'm gonna work to finally finish this tomorrow.

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All the different roles from the base scripts were finished, along with many experimental outsiders

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Acrobat though needs to be re-assessed

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Had a fun thought already.

Fisherman = Temur. Red, Blue, Green.

It is very Izzet, it has some ability to get the 'best' outcome, a Blue thing to do, but follows its advice even if it doesn't make any sense, a Red thing to do. Also fits with Green as it just has the answers without any actual deduction, just follow the path and you'll be rewarded.

Perfection through Knowledge
Freedom through Action

Green is the weakest here, but I think Izzet at least fits very well

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Fisherman isn't necessarily Peaceful or Orderly, it can get some messed up advice, and can get advice to intentionally disrupt the current game balance. So not White.

It's also not necessarily Ruthless or Exploitative. The advice could be, but it's too variable.

round aurora
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Just looking through the Experimental Townsfolk at a glance and thinking over colors as a starting draft...

Acrobat (will assess later)
Alchemist: Black
Alsaahir: Blue
Amnesiac: The only straight up WUBRG. It's way too dependent on what it gets. If not WUBRG, probs Red & Blue Izzet.
Atheist: White
Balloonist: Green, White
Banshee: White, Black
Bounty Hunter: White, Red, Black
Cannibal: Black, Green
Choirboy: White
Cult Leader: White, Black, Green
Engineer: Blue
Farmer: Green
Fisherman: Red, Blue, Green
General: White
High Priestess: Blue, Green
Huntsman: White
King: White
Knight: White
Lycanthrope: Red, Black, Green
Magician: White, Blue, Black
Nightwatchman: Green, Red
Noble: White
Pixie: Red, Black
Poppygrower: White, Blue
Preacher: White
Shugenja: (Not sure at all)
Steward: White
Village Idiot: Green, Blue

round aurora
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For the Minions, just at a quick glance...

Boffin: Blue, Green
Boomdandy: Red, Black
Fearmonger: Black
Goblin: Red
Harpy: Blue, Black
Marionette: White
Mezepheles: White, Black
Organ Grinder: Red, Green
Psychopath: Red, Black
Summoner: White, Blue, Red
Vizier: White, Black
Widow: Blue
Wizard: Blue, Red
Xaan: Black

sharp peak
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I believe seizing other creatures is a red effect, so mez should be red

untold skiff
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It's also a blue effect iirc?

round aurora
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So Blue would make more sense for Mez then

untold skiff
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Legion is Red 100%

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Actually no

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I was just thinking of goblin swarm decks

round aurora
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Legion is more hive mind like, and very community focused. White-Green I'd say

untold skiff
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Blue can copy opponents abilities, would they make sense for Alchemist?

round aurora
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That would make sense, yeah. With the update to alchemist, they now possibly literally copy an in-play Minion's ability as well

ripe fern
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given that Shugenja's flavor is religious i'm feeling white for it

round aurora
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I suppose it also tracks enemies which fits with White

magic forge
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It seems we never decided Princess, Hermit, Wraith, or Cacklejack for this

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she says "we" as if she was part of it

untold skiff
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Probably because Quilava left the server before they came out

magic forge
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I could try at some point, but im not great with MTG

spark valve
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Hermit: green, red, black
Wraith: black, blue
Princess: red, white
Cacklejack: white, black

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Would be my vibe

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And honorary for
Deus ex fiasco: white, (blue?)

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Happy to discuss it more tho

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Princess should maybe be green white

lone gyro
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I think cacklejack should have pithag colours

magic forge
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Because Wraith is largely about gathering intel, using it to make better choices, and sometimes even reflexively responding to things like seeing who the Monk chooses

round aurora
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I need to finish this at some point

spark valve
nocturne hamlet
round aurora
nocturne hamlet
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Yipppee

round aurora
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Since the last time this was working on, Hermit was added to the game, so need to figure out the Hermit's colors.

Hermit is difficult, I can see arguments for everything other than White. It's definitely not White, it's not peaceful nor orderly, it promotes usually either torture combinations, nuclear bombs, or shenanigans. It has the abilities of all other outsiders, making it fulfill everything that potentially hurts their own team solo.

I can see Red as its a chaotic role with a lot of active effects.
I can see Black as its quite ruthless and individualistic.

I can see Green for its acceptance of all outsider roles into itself. (However, Hermit isn't very authentic)
I can see Blue for its perfection in grabbing as much as it can (But it's not very growth oriented, nor is it really reason focused)

I could see Rakdos (Red/Black) as Hermit's colors, it is extremely independent, chaotic, and individualistic.

lone gyro
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I forget, are we just looking at mechanics or themes as well? if so id argue that for adding green as well

round aurora
magic forge
austere iris
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thematically, hermit is unambiguously green. Hermits have a long history in magic, being found in all colors but white, but they are primarily green.
Mechanically, Hermit is as bad as all other outsiders on the script combined, but has the possibility to remove an outsider, including itself. I would personally place this ability somewhere in the vicinity of red/black, however given the lack of control and guarantee over its upside, I would lean more heavily red

round aurora
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In that case, I could see a full Red/Black/Green

round aurora
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Looking ahead now, there is a lot of Townsfolk to go through in the Experimental list.

austere iris
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ah jund, we all love jund

round aurora
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Going through the Experimental TF in alphabetical order...

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Acrobat acrobat

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White/Red? Maybe with Green?

It's very self sacrificial to detect droison, helping others at the cost of their own life. Very White aligned, not Black aligned.

Peace through Order fits Acrobat very well, it anti-poison and when it detects poison, it detects disorder, it dies. Self sacrificial.

Not sure its Blue? Definitely not Black.

Red I can see as its very action oriented through its choices which introduces the chaotic possibility of their own death, and the protective nature of it in such an unreasonable manner is very Red.

Green I could see too. Full Naya could fit, as Acrobat does seek Authencity and protects the Community, it wants Harmony.

ripe fern
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RWG makes sense yeah

round aurora
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We can keep the discussion open on Acrobat and do roles in batches, since we have a lot to go through

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Alchemist I think is Blue/Red, the willingness to engage in Evil powers as a Good player is very anti-White, and its willingness to violate its nature as a Townsfolk is very anti-Green. The experimental nature of Alchemist fits for Blue in gaining this power while Red for the chaotic power of having a Minion ability as a Townsfolk. I could see arguments though for Black too.

Alsaahir White/Green. It's so community focused and trying to find the evil team in such a peaceful manner. Its flavor text as well is incredibly White/Green with I am here because of you, and you are here because of me.

round aurora
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@stark plinth

humble cipher
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Alchemist is incredibly Blue Red

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Yeah these make sense tbh

stark plinth
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ty!

ripe fern
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alchemist izzet makes a lot of sense

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I like alsaahir gw

round aurora
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I'll start collecting the Experimental Townsfolk in a list.

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Acrobat acrobat - White/Red/Green
Alchemist alchemist - Blue/Red
Alsaahir alsaahir - White/Green
Amnesiac amnesiac - Blue/Red
Atheist atheist - Blue/Black
Balloonist balloonist - White/Blue
Banshee banshee - Black
Bounty Hunter bounty_hunter - Black
Cannibal cannibal - Black/Green
Choirboy choirboy - White
Cult Leader cult_leader - White/Black
Engineer engineer - Blue

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Amnesiac is very much a wild card here, because it can do pretty much anything and fulfill any role. So for color, we should only consider it as the Amnesiac and the fact that it can do pretty much anything but must learn what they do.

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I could see Red, Blue, Green for Amnesiac? Temur colors?

It learns itself and its ability over time, guessing what they are and trying to gather knowledge to figure out what they are learning. So Blue.
It has the most freedom of any character, able to be anything, and doesn't start the game knowing anything like others might.
It has a fundamental nature that it simply has without change, but must learn this and figure out themself.

humble cipher
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I like blue + red, I’m not sure there’s a good third color to add there but I don’t think it’s izzet at all

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Temur is probably the best you can get

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It’s basically 5c lol

round aurora
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Yeah, design wise, Amnesiac is WUBRG because it can do literally anything, but that'd be a bit boring to have the option to have Amnesiac anywhere, we want some restriction on it

stark plinth
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I think blue-red, especially in the sorta strixhaven idea of blue-red of like creativity

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the iterative search for understanding is very blue, and the randomness/ability for chaos is very red

round aurora
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Yeah, if there's any pair that best fits Amnesiac, it's Blue/Red. It's very much the ideal for 'Creativity' that the enemy color pair focuses on, regardless of what specific ability they end up with.

lone gyro
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would it be boring for amnesiac to be wubrg? just because it can be on a script doesnt mean it necessarily will be

austere iris
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it's more a matter of, even though an amne ability can be anything, that's not what Amne's ability actually is

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it's ability is that it doesn't know it's ability and can guess it every day

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and I think blue-red fits that better

lone gyro
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Thats fair enough

round aurora
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I'll add Amnesiac as Blue/Red then.

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Atheist

Not White. Not Green. Something that wants to kill the god of the game and denies any sense of Good and Evil just isn't White. It denies the fundamental reality of the game and requires executing the one thing enforcing the rules.

It is ruthless, chaotic, and wild. It perverts the rules of the game. Red and Black fit well.

I think maybe Blue can come along too, because it does want to solve the game and prove itself right, that the whole thing is just an illusion. And its flavor text is very Blue.

"Let us disperse with unnecessary conjecture and silly paranoia. There is a perfectly rational explanation for everything. Yes, a teacup may indeed be orbiting the planet, too small to see, but I shall drink my tea from the very real china in my very real hands."

austere iris
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I would definitely pull it under blue, probably blue black

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It immediately sees through all of the deception in a game in a very selfish way. It and it alone will be the one to save the town

ripe fern
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seconding ub

round aurora
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I'll add Atheist under Dimir UB, since that seems to be the stronger consensus. Discussion still open of course

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Next one is... Balloonist . Hmm.

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I don't see anything that's Black about the Balloonist, it's not Ruthless nor strives for any Satisfaction, there's nothing really amoral in it.

It has some 'chaos' to it with the information being at the ST's whims, but not enough to justify Red I think.

Green I think I could see, it wants to go from role to role seeing them from one to another, it's much more about the natural order of things, and its flavor text feels Green in their adoration of their environment.

More heat! Higher! Higher! Più alto! Ahhh... it is so beautiful from up here, don't you agree? Can you see the children fishing by the river, under the willow? Can you see the glint of the sun on the circus tent-poles? What's this? An old man, alone, passed out in the vineyard? Less heat! Lower! Lower! Vai più in basso!"

I can see White & Blue together too, just in terms of color combos, Balloonist does fit with a belief in Community, Structure, and Truth-Seeking, gathering information about structure and order, achieving knowledge in a peaceful manner. Its flavor text as well is also quite White.

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So I'm leaning towards Green, White, and Blue, but waiting to hear other thoughts on this?

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Balloonist is also very 'slow and steady wins the race', which is another reason it's not Red I think. It gathers information so slowly, but that information gets better and better

humble cipher
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I quite like Azorius

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For balloonist

austere iris
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hot air balloons have a surprisingly long history in magic, having shown up all the way back in alpha. It is perhaps unsurprising that they feature mainly in blue and white, but they also feature strongly in red.
In terms of ability, Balloonist is a very big picture type of info character. On its own, balloonist info means very little, but it combines very well with other info, both more of its own and that of others.
The slow methodical information gathering reads strongly as blue, while the focus on players lacking type parity can be interpreted as either white or black in nature.
To that end, I would say white/blue as well

round aurora
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Seems the primary agreement at the moment is Azorious White/Blue, of course anyone can chime in to add thoughts.

I'm thinking maybe we include some reacts to indicate agreement with general ideas, if someone mentions a color combo and they agree but don't want to comment necessarily they can just give a 👍 or something, or perhaps use color tags like ⚪ 🔵 🟣 🔴 🟢 (I use purple circle because black circle does not appear well on dark mode- )

austere iris
round aurora
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That works too, but the individuals have to be on that server to use those

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So if someone just wants to throw all the emojis on a starting post for certain characters, that'd work too though

austere iris
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there’s also just the appropriate letters for the colors

round aurora
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True

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🇼 🇺 🇧 🇷 🇬

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We'd have to remind people that U = Blue and B = Black

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The next one on our list is... Banshee banshee

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This one is interesting. Very much in line with the kind of Ravenkeeper and Undertaker colors I think as they focus on death and using that to their advantage, rising from the grave to enact their revenge essentially

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Green/Black I think?

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Flavor wise, I can even see Red in there.

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It's a vengeful spirit sort of character, a Banshee being a female spirit who screams and wails in anguish.

humble cipher
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Yeah I agree with Black and Green

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Black for the death elements and also Banshees are generally black iirc

round aurora
humble cipher
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Green makes sense as a pair with that since Green / Black usually involves utilizing the graveyard

round aurora
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Yeah, ignoring the Banshee's Blade, all the others are Spirit Creatures and Black cards

austere iris
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art tags are often useful for this sort of analysis

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lets you cast a wider net

round aurora
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Yeah.

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Still, all of them are Black, so MTG agrees Banshees as a species are Black aligned, and the character is Black aligned too. So is it any other colors? Green maybe, or is Banshee too focused as an unnatural thing and instead fully Black?

humble cipher
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I’m also fine with full black

austere iris
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I think this embodies a fully vengeful spirit in a way that is probably mono-black

round aurora
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I'll put it down as Mono-Black then!

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Next is... Bounty Hunter

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According to MTG, Bounty Hunters are Black aligned, with only three cards appearing it seems?

Beifong's Bounty Hunters (Green/Black)
Bounty Hunter (Black)
June, Bounty Hunter (Black)

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It's flavor text as well...

Alone, I walk these streets, paved with the sick stench of corruption. Its thickness worms its way into my nostrils, unbidden, burning with revulsion. And anticipation. The illness of this wretched place grows each night. And I... I am the cure.

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This is a very Black view it seems. Bounty Hunter, for its great power of directly seeing Evils, also ends up creating an Evil, so its a very ruthless character that pays a hefty price for its power.

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It doesn't really care about the Group, just exe all its targets and it'll find the Evil team solo. It's not really aiming for any kind of harmony or acceptance either-

austere iris
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High power, especially with that power being very selfish in nature, with a heavy cost that you don’t even need to fully pay yourself

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definitely reads mono-black to me

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In that case I shall put down Bounty Hunter as mono-black!

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Next is... Cannibal cannibal

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Satisfaction through Ruthlessness fits someone eating others to gain their powers...

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Could be Green/Black in this case. It's definitely playing with the Profanity axis there on Green/Black, in Preserving an ability a little longer and Exploiting the executed for their power.

magic forge
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It’s has some of the same selfishness as Undertaker, but even more so

austere iris
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Cannibalism is most assuredly in black

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but, the general idea of making use of the dead does lean into the golgari overlap

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I put Cannibal under Black/Green!

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Next up... Choirboy choirboy !

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I guess White? It protects the King via adding a big danger to the Demon in killing the King. None of the colors seem too strongly linked to the Choirboy at least on my first impression

austere iris
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a character based around protection via retribution for hurting someone specific is definitely very white. Given that the specific flavor of the character involves eavesdropping on the killing, you could maybe argue that it tinges blue, but I think mono-white works better

ripe fern
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agreed with mono white

humble cipher
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Yeah this is definitely white

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Putting Choirboy in White then

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Now we have a fun one: Cult Leader cult_leader

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White/Black? They want the unity of the group and for all of Good to come together to form their cult.
If they're Good, they're bringing unity and order for the good of the group. White.
If they're Evil, they're exploiting and tricking Good into their loss, betraying the group for their own selfish benefit. Black

magic forge
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I do think White/Black is good. They win through unity, but unity doesn’t always benefit the group they unite

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The deck is stacked in the cult leaders favor since they always win that way

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Discussion is still open on Cult Leader, so if there's any opinions on the colors for the character, they can be talked about. For now I will put Cult Leader down as White/Black.

It's Christmas Eve, so understandable if people might be busy.

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The next one though is Engineer engineer

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Blue/Red? It can 'optimize' the situation for Good by sabotaging the Evil Team, a very Red way of taking Blue's desire for optimization by instead worsening the Evil Team. It has quite the creative freedom.

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Could see Black in there too? It's certainly Ruthless and pursuing satisfaction through manipulating the Evil Team.

spark valve
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Definetly blue

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It does have an amusing Blue/Black way of operating on a 'Growth Mindset', relatively speaking.

magic forge
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Engineer is also probably blue because it’s very precise in countering specific enemy threats

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It does become more informed on its enemy in the process as well, but it’s main role is adjusting the enemy toolbox into one it’s prepared to counter

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I don’t know enough about Magic to say if the red fits, though it seems more deliberate?

And from what I know about Magic, Blue loves to counter things and block spells it doesn’t like when they are cast

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Should continue this now

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Any further comments on Engineer?

magic forge
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Sounds like the main consensus is Blue

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Farmer farmer

White? VadeThink Very peaceful role, and keeps the order by ensuring a Farmer exists (so long as the Farmer isn't executed).

Doesn't seem Red, not impulsive, transforms others without their intent or will, not really passionate.
Doesn't seem Blue.
Sure, it has a death effect, but while its exploiting its death effect it's doing it in a way to benefit the community moreso than itself; it confirming itself to another player is only after it has already died, the stronger confirmation is the chain it creates.

It might be Green? 'Harmony through Acceptance', and it's very community focused.

austere iris
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white does have quite the connection to farming, Swords to Plowshares and all that

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I would be inclined to say green white, as it's focus on both building a community and retribution

naive cedar
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I think I would actually argue that Po fits red-blue better, with some nights being calculating in order to have an explosive night of 3 kills

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Gambler I like being Blue/Black where they sacrifice themselves for info gathering, same for Acrobat however gambler I think the argument for red can also work as putting your life on the line for the sake of gaining an advantage in information all feels very Grixis to me

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Blue has a majority of the shapeshifter cards and that’s kinda the closest I can see recluse being

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Any other thoughts on Farmer?

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