The Bootlegger's Anthology - (Consider Damocles)

[leaden solstice]

Ok follow up to this using a real game example. Occultist is bluffing VI, with new pings each day, definitely all good and no inclination to execute them. On d4, they receive their statement, and then go to town and out that they are the Occultist and what their statement is. Can they be executed here?

Following that, they later then state "oh also cause I'm the Occultist, completely disregard all my VI pings". Does that change things?

[dreamy cliff]

Learning something new doesn’t inherently mean discredit old info

[dreamy cliff]

The occultist info would be “learning something new” so the condition is fulfilled for that day

[lime cipher]

Yeah the tricky part is claiming to learn something new the next day

[dreamy cliff]

But you can also assume that you’ll have to work doubly hard to stay mad

[dreamy cliff]

Exactly

Also

Just as with anything madness related

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/570328029939630090/1315468418018967552/NoOneKnows.gif

[leaden solstice]

It was a 4 day timer Demon, so they knew it was the final day and wouldn't need to uphold madness the following day

I ruled that it was sufficient (plus woulda been kinda unfun to exe there anyway), but I wanna check lol

[dreamy cliff]

Yeah that’s sufficient

But also if someone does actually break madness

Don’t be afraid to penalise them

They knew what was coming to them anyway

[celest wind]

falconer is missing it's closing parenthesis in the master json

[nova geyser]

actually if u look at it very closely its just an optical illusion

u just have to squint ur eyes

[oak rampart]

The Bootlegger's Anthology - (Guilty Gear: Strive)

The Bootlegger's Anthology - (Guilty Gear: Strike)

the second one is your clue. have fun, everyone!

[torn scaffold]

(you can delete the first one)

[oak rampart]

I will say this, to temper expectations: it's a Traveller.

despite this being a traveller, I assure you it's going to be a major release. so it will take time, and I'm going to be working on fixing up the json, which should happen sometime soon before the release. I've been having a really tough time of it lately, but I'm still working on this whenever I can.

[oak rampart]

i do not have perms for that, unfortunately.

[void pike]

To build expectations back up, this is a very hype Traveller

[muted ice]

Yeah if this is what I think it is, this is literally awesome

Y'all ain't ready for this

[fiery panther]

guys i'm so excited for Gnome 2

[left merlin]

WOOO TRAVELER UPDATE 🥳

i'm a big traveler fan and am personally very hyped for this

[weary talon]

Yeah I don't see travs as lesser characters, we love a new traveler

[elfin quest]

tba traveller hype 🔥🔥

[dreamy cliff]

People when TPI release a Traveller: 👹
People when TBA gets new Travellers: 🗣️🔥🔥🔥 🎉

To be clear

This isn’t like Gnome, which I don’t like, not because it’s a Traveller

But because it just doesn’t do its job well

These characters tho

They slap

They are actually amazing

Insane

Zany

Mystical

Rambunctious even

Debaucherous

[void pike]

I don't like Travellers much, but I love this character

There are games I'd absolutely travel in just to play as this character when I otherwise wouldn't travel

[untold ice]

Travellerrrrrrrr

[untold ice]

TPI's travellers are not 🤌 enough

[untold ice]

The Gnome is a more dangerous Vizier

With even less responsibility

"Oh you nommed my best friend. STABBY STAB"

As evil or as good, you basically have no reason and no obligation to not stabby stab

I mean not that I'm complaining as a Gnome

It's fun watching people die because of your shit

[viral wolf]

this character is honestly. just. I love it. I've been wanting to offer it as a Traveller option in my games for a good while now but couldn't for obvious reasons

[amber jackal]

yes yes we get it youre fancy folk with your exclusive benefits

now is it going to be bridget from guilty gear

[lime cipher]

aa I feel like this will be a great traveler that I won’t be able to use in 75% of games >_<

[amber jackal]

so when this trav releases its gonna appear in mg&t thats being hosted in tcc lol

ive been assured its fine for the script

[muted ice]

If this is what I think it is, it's actually super versatile

[lime cipher]

it's more the worry of like, asking to travel in as a homebrew traveler in the playing of like b3 or a custom will very likely just be a no :/

[fiery panther]

In all honesty, I really want to try running some homebrew travellers and if someone asked I’d really consider it if I could read about it first

But it’s definitely an unpopular opinion

[muted ice]

That's really sad and narrow-minded of people :(

But hopefully this can maybe change their minds

We need more good, balanced, homebrew travellers

To slowly break people from their self-imposed cages

Like, Travs should, realistically, be the most accessible kind of homebrew

[nova geyser]

i absolutely agree, and i hope we have a way to easily importing single characters into games for this purpose

[fiery panther]

I do acknowledge that some scripts and setups just do not allow for certain travellers and that’s okay

[nova geyser]

although the only homebrew travellers I know of are luis', mine, and the bazaar's

[fiery panther]

But like I could throw a Dealer from HBL into a Trouble Brewing game with no issues

[nova geyser]

i think a big issue with current travellers is that they are either incredibly swingy or can easily be made as a regular character when their loudness is toned down

and by swingy, i also mean for a particular team

i also wish we got more travelers that make better use of their loud nature to create more enjoyable game events

[muted ice]

Obviously

[weary talon]

yeah half the time when i run a trav nobody knows what it does in advance anyway, i should just sneak in a homebrew trav and see if anyone notices

their ability is publicly known so it's really not a big problem

[amber jackal]

me when amnesiac traveller

[weary talon]

amne does go kinda hard as a trav lol

[fiery panther]

I think honestly if I pulled a realistic (read: official sounding) enough homebrew traveller into a game, I can think of maybe 3 people who would not it’s not official

[nova geyser]

this but real

[fiery panther]

I’d just say “oh this is the one they teased on the ||Dice Tower campaign||”

[amber jackal]

oh right you made that

[fiery panther]

This is insane I love it

[nova geyser]

also im adding on to this by saying we need a way to import fableds midgame

[untold ice]

What the heck

[timber pivot]

basically

{Ability}. {(Optional) Condition}, choose {1st Portion of Ability : 2nd Portion of Ability}. {Optional Ability}. {Optional Ability}.

ST chooses who designs what goes into any given {}

[weary talon]

If there's no death mod and 4 alive, does terminus proc

Or can town execute on 4 to bypass it

[void pike]

"The final day is the day that the Storyteller thinks is most likely to be the last day of the game – the day where, if the Demon is not executed, evil will win. This most likely means the day with only 3 living players remaining."

from the Ferryman description, with bolding by me

[weary talon]

So it seems like they can bypass the terminus execution right

[void pike]

This is just my personal interpretation, but it seems like f4, with no death modification, would not activate the Terminus

[weary talon]

Makes sense

[void pike]

which tbf, it's not like that's a super big advantage

you'd only do that imo if you're not confident whether or not there's a Terminus, and so you're opening yourself up to the possibility that you take an f4 execution with a different Demon in play

[amber jackal]

i mean ferry is an auto trigger

[half tide]

I was confused when I saw it too

[untold ice]

Aneurysm alert

[lucid osprey]

has anyone thought of/played with any good Sleepwalker abilities? It seems like a really cool outsider and I'm curious what people have done with it

[ornate bough]

i had one i made and thought was very interesting, i'll send it in spoilers in case anyone wants to use it

||For a Sleepwalker who believes they are the Alsaahir, "The 1st time you guess the evil Demon and Minions, it becomes true. Until then, there are no evil players & the Storyteller is the Demon."||

[weary talon]

oh shoot lol

[fiery panther]

that's devastating

i'm stealing that

[muted ice]

That's insane lmfao

You're a genius

[scenic dome]

cant believe pyn copied psaliphim

[teal hazel]

can’t believe Dark copied Diablos Ex Deus

[scenic dome]

how would they!!!!

[left merlin]

||For a Sleepwalker (FT): Each night, choose 2 players: one registers as an evil Demon until you choose again.||

I haven't played with sleepwalker much and the only other time was sy doing the IK sleepwalker that got put into the almanac

[ornate bough]

If someone does run this, lmk I wanna see how it turns out :)

[somber anvil]

Never run it ofc, but a fun one could be:

||Preacher - Each night, choose a player. Minions you choose act twice tonight & learn this.

Just a simple reversal, but fun. Could include Demon too, but just Minions is more fitting.||

[remote widget]

||Isn't this against the idea of the character||

||(at least from what I'd heard it should be an ability that could reasonably be considered a Tf if known)||

[somber anvil]

||As far as I can tell nothing in the almanac says this? A few of the examples are even pretty explicitly purely negative, like the IK who only causes drunkenness or the FT who makes deaths unavoidable||

[viral wolf]

well the ability should be harmful imo just that if you know it you can neutralise it

[remote widget]

||It's something I remember from a bit ago so my memory might be a bit bunk||

[left merlin]

It's from the beta almanac

[remote widget]

Ah, makes sense

[left merlin]

The fact that it didn't make it into the full release implies to me that it should be an outsider?

(for people unaware the old almanac had a line that said "In designing abilities for the Sleepwalker, prioritize things which are difficult but possible to deduce by experimentation, and difficult but possible to use for good’s benefit. It should be possible to turn a Sleepwalker into an extra Townsfolk, but only with a lot of deduction and co-ordination by the rest of the good team")

[remote widget]

my guess would be because it's quite hard to design such abilities maybe?

[teal hazel]

I mean, somethng like making an FT an Innkeeper is a TF used as an Outsider when they dont know

[remote widget]

but it contradicts the beta thing still

cause good knowing it doesnt help good

[left merlin]

drunk evil players?

[remote widget]

if the intent is to drunk evil players then that is probably more goodsided of a change than not

[left merlin]

in the sense that the sleepwalker Innkeeper should be trying to gun for 2 evil players each night

with coordination and deduction, it's a townsfolk, but otherwise it's really hard to make it more than an outsider (if you select a good player at all they're probably getting drunked)

[remote widget]

oftentimes it wont really help to pick 2 evils that will meaningfully drunk anyone

to me its majorly a problem about intent... maybe to make it better since its faking a ft it could do something like:

You learn if you made an evil player drunk.

[lime cipher]

Hey, what's the jinx between Prankster and Summoner?

[viral wolf]

Hi, we are currently playtesting the next release in a live game, and we need a replacement
If you would like to sub in (and learn the release early), it is day 2 and you are alive

sub found

[tough ermine]

HAHA SUCKERS

You missed out on a sneak peak :p

[gloomy lance]

they are not jinxed as of now - I would recommend using the Preacher jinx for it.

[lucid osprey]

btw i always wondered

is prankster not just inherently weaker preacher

[amber jackal]

pretty sure pranksters perma

[lucid osprey]

ah

[amber jackal]

huh did elluna leave or something

[elfin quest]

yeah she left the server, likely temporarily

[muted ice]

She does it from time to time

[dreamy cliff]

Yeah this server in general is pretty nice

But it can get really unsavoury sometimes

[scenic dome]

if updates come out in the meantime she was gonna get someone else to do them, iirc

[lucid osprey]

Just played a game where I was the Wizard who wished for the Visionary's ability. I learned "who's in the noble pings?" and almost got it 😔

[untold ice]

Re

So sad

[teal hazel]

If you made that wish Day 1, you have successfully recreated old Visionairy

[lucid osprey]

has it changed?

[teal hazel]

Nope. There was just an even older version that got its info during the day

That changed a long tie ago

And its been night since old Bleeding of the Warband and beta TBA

(not knocking Elluna's work btw. Visionairy has always been great and it only needed the last polish to truly shine.)

||That's also part of why Elluna is so passionaite about Wizard. THough I wont say anthing more on the subject||

[lucid osprey]

ah

[dreamy cliff]

Yeah one of our first instances of an event horizon was with the visionary

[wheat musk]

Yeah, my bad. But hey, Visionary got stronger out of the whole thing.

[scenic dome]

hey you really did improve it, so

[lime cipher]

Event Horizon?

[dreamy cliff]

if only they did the same with wizard

[dreamy cliff]

-# Spoilers cover points referencing an unreleased character

The ||Hwisp||/Wizard Event Horizon If public actions become risky or if allowing them would concede significant advantages, then there is a tendency for them to become more policed and scarce.
Example (The Wizard) In person, the Wizard’s only reliable way of privately and clandestinely making a wish is by asking for a Storyteller consult. Hence, players are rewarded for not allowing others to visit the Storyteller, even if that means denying good players who have abilities that require visiting the Storyteller, or, at the extreme, even denying players who would like to ask questions about the rules.
Example ||(The Hwisp) A speculated clause of the Hwisp’s ability is, “Each day, if a 2nd Townsfolk nominates, their team loses.” This incentives the group to make a consensus on who to nominate and vote for, even if it’s not necessarily a good execution.||

[amber jackal]

i think the second part might be intentional as it empowers ||hwisp|| to trick good into making a bad decision

wizard can be circumvented via phone and writing your wishes (already done in its htr)

[dreamy cliff]

This is why it’s worded “only reliable”

Point being that it’s not a good thing either way

[amber jackal]

yeah

it requires group consensus to not police noms

[dreamy cliff]

- Elluna, talking about why it should be worded as such

[amber jackal]

17th

was that before or after

[amber jackal]

should be worded as what

[dreamy cliff]

As “only reliable way”

[amber jackal]

ah

[dreamy cliff]

Wdym

[amber jackal]

the release

cuz before i dont think it was known that you could message/write the wish

[dreamy cliff]

After iirc

But we were talking about it before it too

[amber jackal]

ah ok

[dreamy cliff]

It’s just that once it got released in its current ||half-baked aaahhh|| version

We fully committed to defining what an event horizon is

[amber jackal]

yeah makes sense cuz consult wishes will be prevalent with the only counter being group meta

or maybe theyre gonna add duchess to wizards homescript fr

[dreamy cliff]

Tbf homebrew theory is really cool

[dreamy cliff]

Mfw no-one visits the Duchess

[amber jackal]

i mean if duchess exists then theres no other info

[dreamy cliff]

even tho it’s not physical visiting

[amber jackal]

except one loneass fisherman

[amber jackal]

wait wha

i thought you literally visit the st

[dreamy cliff]

Brother no

[amber jackal]

ive been lied to

[muted ice]

Wait what

It's not physical?

That's so fucked up

[dreamy cliff]

Tbf let me double check

[fiery panther]

Wiki just says “visit”

Never defines it

Only that everyone has to agree on who visits

[dreamy cliff]

No yeah the volunteering is public and the info happens at night

So they don’t actually visit the ST

But they “visit” the duchess

[muted ice]

Yeah I didn't think the visits were secret

But I dunno, I just thought you got some personal tea time with the ST

[amber jackal]

tba leaks

[fiery panther]

lmaoooo I love how every single part of this is wrong

well it got the homebrew right

[amber jackal]

and the game

[fiery panther]

'game based on...'

it still thinks its another game

[amber jackal]

oh right

[oak rampart]

<t:1749146400:R>

---

"Thank you, thank you. Everyone please enter in an orderly fashion."

"We are gathered here today to read the last will and testament of Her Ladyship, pride of Ravenswood Bluff, Major Elizabeth Hargrave."

"She has left us a message. I can make neither heads nor tails of it. But I think we might have to.""

Introducing...

The Major

---

---

"If you are reading this, I am dead. Circumstances permit me to say only this to you, those I have loved: to the woman in the bathroom, I bequeath sanguine death. That is all."

Character Type: Traveler
Ability: As you leave, view the Grimoire and write a short message to be read on the final day. It must not feature any names.

The Major is a character like no other. The only good character that can see the Demon... but she might not be good. The only character capable of affecting the game after she leaves. I bequeath enjoyment upon all of you with this release.

A Traveler fully optimised for when you have a player who needs to leave early.

Pray forgive the rather slim introduction; I am certain reading the Major's almanac should clear up any confusions you may have, and I am as sickly as she was in her final days.

The Bootlegger's Anthology v.1.3 will launch tomorrow, adding the Major's associated resources to the Google Drive. Please await this moment patiently.

---

[teal hazel]

I can also attest that this has been run twice before and has been amazing

[dreamy cliff]

lets gooooooo

[weary talon]

as you leave woah

[oak rampart]

--

Json File To Drop In To A Script (made for the official app)

{"id": "major_tba", "team": "traveller", "name": "Major §", "ability": "As you leave, view the Grimoire and write a short message to be read on the final day. It must not feature any names.", "image": ["https://imgur.com/8OAJDFM", "https://imgur.com/AXIacyC", "https://imgur.com/vLiptes"], "flavor": "If you are reading this, I am dead. Circumstances permit me to say only this to you, those I have loved: to the woman in the bathroom, I bequeath sanguine death. That is all.", "reminders": [], "firstNight": 0, "firstNightReminder": "", "otherNight": 0, "otherNightReminder": "" },

---

[teal hazel]

The Grimoire thing working is a really cool aftereffect of trying to do "as you leave". Because you cant explain what you saw in detail

[oak rampart]

i'll sort the rest out tomorrow. please enjoy, tell your friends if you will, etc.

[teal hazel]

It gives the Major the context to work its magic and have an effect after they leave, while simeltaneously functiong as a good player who sees the Grimoire

[oak rampart]

apologies for my inability to drum up as much hype as luis or bhamber at the moment

[dreamy cliff]

nah it's all good

this is hype in itself

bc Major IS SO GOOD

I've been waiting to show it to people for ages lmao

[oak rampart]

oh yeah you can show this off fully now

[scenic dome]

real its such a cool trav

[oak rampart]

also i vewry nearly submitted this to last month's competition but wasn't well enough then either

[scenic dome]

also ella ill make the icon for it sometime soon i promise

[oak rampart]

i'm rarely well, but. such is life.

[dreamy cliff]

also for people who are on their phones and can't open the PDF:

[teal hazel]

I have decent Travellers, but none as cool as this one

[tough ermine]

The only homebrew trav worth playing with (/hj)

[teal hazel]

just play as Dave

[scenic dome]

the preparations have been set in motion for my fav tba characters comeback

[weary talon]

I opened it on my phone 😎

[dreamy cliff]

also Ella would you like me to pin anything

[weary talon]

Wait this is so cool

[oak rampart]

pin the second post please

[void pike]

As I was saying before it came out, I love this Traveller

[small crane]

at last Elluna is catering to the real playerbase

people that want to stop playing clocktower

[oak rampart]

pffft

[void pike]

Yeah this is still true

[small crane]

just a very fun character, really making great use of traveller only design space

[weary talon]

If it turns out that the major can stay the whole game what do you do

[small crane]

L Bozo

[weary talon]

Have them travel out on the final day and then just shut up/keep a straight face?

Or L Bozo that works too

[small crane]

they don’t need to leave

their ability just only works when they leave

[void pike]

Imo

[weary talon]

I mean the real answer is "run a different traveler" but I'm wondering

[small crane]

if they would rather actively participate in final day they can, they just don’t see the grim

[weary talon]

True

[void pike]

1.) they just choose sometime before or during the final day to leave the room and watch videos of baby alligators dancing on their phone.
2.) If there's a serious chance that the player will never want to leave the game, you should probably choose a different Traveller

[weary talon]

Can't they watch fruits not alligators

(yeah this makes sense)

[void pike]

I'd email Ella every video you intend to watch as the Major, just to be safe

[weary talon]

I'm sure she'll appreciate that

[oak rampart]

...i won't.

[gloomy lance]

peak character
both times I've played with it I've had a blast

[teal hazel]

Theres also Option #3: become a co-ST. That's more to help remind the player that they shouldnt be acting on the game after that point

(its more fleshed out in tips)

[ornate bough]

evil fake butler 😡

im gonna eliminate you 😡

for reference

i think i was the first player to ever be major? might be wrong

i was good

[void pike]

But cha didn't

[ornate bough]

and when i left my statement was "the chef hails from the south"

this is because chef wasn't on script and both evil players (ice and amelia) were neighboured

it would have been simpler in terms like "the evil players neighbour eachother" but the spirit of the character appreciates the fancier wording

[teal hazel]

A philosophy I’ve seen during Major playtesting is basically “Yes you probably can fly very close to the sun & try to milk a mechanical descript. But it’s more fun if you work with the Major rules & try to make a more creative yet meaningful message”

And of course, names of players in game or characters on script are always banned

You’re not getting around those

[amber jackal]

thrice

[mossy trout]

Hey I've seen this one before!

This is a pog take on it

[weary talon]

???

[weary talon]

Oh I like that

[scenic dome]

damn its almost a year old by now

close but not quite

[teal hazel]

A bit older in some ways, because the prototype is a few months older

[teal hazel]

To my knowledge, this was the first time Elluna experimented with the tech

(Ella, please let me know if you want this removed & i'll happly do so)

[scenic dome]

oh damn

so its over a year old then

[teal hazel]

Yep. The foundational tech is over a year old, tho I was definitely refined along the way

[oak violet]

The Major is cool, but it requires players who don't optimize, right?

(Reading the discussion, the answer is: 'yes'.)

But yeah, pretty fun. Solves a lot of issues

[small crane]

I don’t think it requires players to not optimize that much

[oak violet]

I mean

'the guy with the brown shirt, who likes jogging and works for a bank is the demon'

[tough ermine]

Bam, evil major

[oak violet]

Yeah

[tough ermine]

They just lied

[oak violet]

that is possible

but still

the game 'Tom is the demon or Sara was evil' is not interesting

'here is a fun little riddle' is interesting

[oak violet]

Like: this optimization makes the game 'if this traveller is in the game, on the final day, you learn the demon (if good) or a random player (if evil)"

but the riddle cryptic thingy is way cooler

[tough ermine]

Exactly

[ornate bough]

The entire point is they can’t write names?

[tough ermine]

Yes Pyn we know

Read uo

[tough ermine]

.

We're saying "If a statement like this is made, the game becomes "Either this statement is true or the Major is lying""

Which isn't fun

So Don't try to find loopholes

[gloomy lance]

I think I would reject that on either the notion of it not being a short message or basically saying a name without actually saying a name (probably the former)

[small crane]

face it, we all know that you just need to call out a time in your message and solve with a clock number

[oak violet]

Kill 7'O Clock

[gloomy lance]

Yeah I think that falls far more cleanly under "this is literally just a name but not written as one, say no to it" but if that's not your style then oh well

[small crane]

actually I meant clockmaker number, which is still quite broken

[teal hazel]

Tbc, it’s not just about being a “fun little riddle”. It’s because trying to find a way to reference some key piece of info about the Grim may be more effective than just pointing at a Demon

Like if you know someone is drunk, you can try to imply their info shouldn’t be trusted in some way to help the rest of the solve

Either lead or mislead based on someone you want to support

[oak violet]

I am theorycrafting here, but I just don't think that's optimal, but perhaps it is if you can use that to argue for why someone is the demon (in a very short manner)

like

'Tom is the demon' is strong, but perhaps 'Tom, Sara and Ben is the evil team' is even stronger (yes, yes, you can relay that information without saying names)

[void pike]

I, as the ST, would count a "name" to be anything where the only reasonable interpretation is 1 player. Under this interpretation, I don't even know how much you could optimize

So if there's only 1 guy with glasses, saying "the guy in glasses" is the same as saying his name imo.

[oak violet]

I think it's more interesting to just flat out ignore those kind of statements, but not really because of 'a name'. Like: you can probably always get around it

[teal hazel]

I mean... isnt that what Ice suggested? The ability saying "cant include names" gives ST flexibility to reject the most obvioulsy unfun/simplistic messages & encourage engaing with the Major

[dreamy cliff]

Yeah ice is saying exactly that

If something is very obviously just pointing at someone then that’s a name and so you should try again

[oak violet]

Is ‘The demon is next the demonbane’ a name?

Like: you can always make it such that you aren’t using a name, which seems a roundabout way of saying ‘write somethinc cryptc’

[scenic dome]

no thats not a name but "the demon is next to the person wearing red and on the big couch, who is the sage" is a name

and also very long

[oak violet]

The point is that either way, it’s not hard to make it clear

‘The demon is 3 away to the left from the holy person’ (someone claimt saint)

[scenic dome]

due to not being in the spirit of major im not sure id allow that lmao

anything that strictly refers to a specific player id disallow

[oak violet]

Oke, but you see the issue :p

I guess my main point is that implicitly, you’ll are treating the ‘you can’t use names’ as the alchemist ‘the st may prompt you’ and I think that’s great because it makes the character better

[somber anvil]

“Sage” is also a name so it’s already illegal lol. No names means no character names either

But yeah I agree that it’s best to just disallow any unfun statements

[void pike]

If it's reasonable to call multiple ppl the 'holy person' (which is not a ridiculous scenario. 1 player could be religious irl) then I'd allow it

[oak rampart]

Changelog v.1.3:

• Added the Major.

i've updated the almanac and json on the google drive. please let me know if anything's off

[void pike]

do the Wight icons work?

[turbid socket]

I tried to download master json and it looks like there's some cut-off from end of Wight to Despoina.

[void pike]

oh yeah, it's missing a comma

[turbid socket]

Like jinxes array and wight json are not closed.

[void pike]

The Major json it fully condensed into a few lines, which I think works, but it's kinda odd looking

[turbid socket]

Also Despoina icon links doesn't seem to work.

[oak rampart]

fuck.

okay i'll sort this. soon enough.

[oak rampart]

The Bootlegger's Anthology - (Consider Damocles)

Entrance shall be granted.

[left merlin]

entrance? can't wait for the new TBA character, the Door

[sharp coral]

https://tenor.com/view/asdf-movie-asdf-door-knock-knock-gif-24176935

[weary talon]

If there's a mouldwarp pukka do they just wake to poison every other night instead

And then kill passively as normal

[scenic dome]

id say so

[weary talon]

So if they alternate waking with a standard 1kpn demon the kills go 2 0 2 0 2 0 etc

[weary talon]

Perfect

[dreamy cliff]

Which, funnily enough, is possible anyway with 2 1KPN demons

[weary talon]

true

[weary talon]

Mouldwarp is still fully a minion as far as evil info is concerned right

They wake with minions to learn the single og demon and don't get bluffs bc they're a minion?

[teal hazel]

Yep

They turn into a Demon later on in the night

And thats part of why its "On your 1st night" and not some setup effect (among other reasons)

[weary talon]

Cool

[gloomy lance]

(does have funny effects when paired with Poppy Grower though)

[remote widget]

terminus organ grinder jinx 🤩

[dreamy cliff]

is that needed?

[weary talon]

Idk but 666 votes is funny

[dreamy cliff]

oh true

[oak rampart]

me and amelia made that jinx for old organ grinder

and due to The Circumstances have not yet updated it

[gloomy lance]

(It'll come eventually I swear)

[remote widget]

i forgot that organ grinder had changed 🙈

[pastel garden]

Question, what does the flavor text for the Au’Wre say

[dreamy cliff]

good question, no-one knows

i don't even think ella knows anymore lmao

[arctic ginkgo]

it’s luis’ full name and address

[dreamy cliff]

[sharp coral]

well we all know that

his name is Luis S and he lives at Dr Tomb Avenue

[teal hazel]

Its says "Lonely God"

[lime cipher]

real?

[teal hazel]

Elluna has said this in a few places

[pastel garden]

Oooh

Very cool

[teal hazel]

this

[pastel garden]

Was just curious

[teal hazel]

Yea. It was a good question

[oak rampart]

i do remember

[teal hazel]

The Baron Incident?

[amber jackal]

the 21st of september?

[oak rampart]

before anyone asks, i have no intention to retire Firebrand post the Princess release

they still have very unique niches; i might update FB's wording to match Princess's on the trigger

[void pike]

I think Firebrand's is cooler personally but it's your call

[oak rampart]

hence why i said might

again i have no intention to retire the character

[grand pelican]

hello! i am planning on running the fifth wind and i have small question 🥺

for au'wre/mm jinx -- does this still activate wincon? if so, does the game end if good executes evil like normal mm? or no

[turbid socket]

It's like regular MM day

• Evil or no one exed -> Good wim
• Good exed -> Evil win

[grand pelican]

thank you!

[tepid totem]

Gave +1 Thanks to @turbid socket (current: #221 - 225)

[grand pelican]

that makes sense in hindsight

[severe vector]

Big fan. I threw 17 of them onto a Buffet script. Let me know if you have any contention with how you're credited. (https://www.bloodstar.xyz/p/Jagrevi/BrewBuffet/almanac.html#othercontributors_brewbuffet) There's also a Fabled on the JSON that has a list of credits.

[somber anvil]

I have a weird temptation to run this in text but that’s probably a bad idea especially when I don’t know most of these

[severe vector]

Yeah, that might be harsh

[somber anvil]

I’m the same person who ran Oops! All Wizards in text three times though so who am I to go against the wind

[severe vector]

🙂

[oak rampart]

hi! yeah, i'm completely fine with this, and i have to say that i approve of creating a whalebucket of homebrew characters you particularly enjoy - that seems like it could lead to some incredibly fun games

i mean, not Focused and Pure Clocktower games but, let's be honest, there's plenty of those, we can do Some Other Shit if we want

[severe vector]

Fantastic!

[lucid osprey]

no obscrul 😔

[severe vector]

Can't really put a Demon that depends on its Setup Ability onto a Buffet script, unfortunately.

That being said, I'd happily play on a Obscrul script if you're running a game with one.

[teal hazel]

me & a few others have run Bleeding of the Warband, which has Obscrul

I ran an Obscrul with the ability to make a good player think Visionairy was in play during a Wight-Scarlet game

[severe vector]

I do have that one downloaded. Never played it.

[teal hazel]

Its a bit hard to play homebrew here, since you can only do it in scheduled or a text channel

But Warband is really fun if you can get a group for it

[severe vector]

I mean, I've played Homebrew open lobby games before. Just last night, even.

[teal hazel]

I also know Elluna made an Obscrul teensy during beta TBA

I cant speak for her in whether that script will be updated for modern TBA

[teal hazel]

Fair. I'm motsly experienced with just this sever, so idk the dynamics of the offical app

Either way, good for youo

[dreamy cliff]

Did she?

[teal hazel]

It was called Black Sabbatical or something similar

[dreamy cliff]

Oh damn

[severe vector]

For online play, I'm really only familiar with the official app. I've played in scheduled games before over at the Grimoire, but those are on the official app too, just not public lobbies. In any case, there are probably options off of this server if you're having trouble getting games together.

[teal hazel]

Huh. apparently it does use only modern characters

Idk if she would still consider the script of sufficint qualit, but its apparently not with outdated characters

[severe vector]

Is the Obscrul's ability usually guessable in the time afforded to a Teensy?

[teal hazel]

I believe its intended to be either simpler or less dramatic, so it isnt as overwhelming if good cant guess

[severe vector]

To be fair, Artist can be leveraged to help solve it mechanically there as well

If it's important

[nova geyser]

you say that, but i had an obscrul ability guessed D2 cause of smart good collaberation, so id say yes

it wasnt a teensy though, as there were i think 8 or 9 players in that game, so the character extra info lead to a faster victory

obscrul, skreeblebar, & hethaesta my beloved 💙 ....

[teal hazel]

No love for Bambamo 😔

[nova geyser]

ah ah idk what that is im sorry :(

[teal hazel]

(From Procyon's Stardust Collection)

[nova geyser]

(although i say hethaesta when i never actually played with it, it just looks nice)

[nova geyser]

ah i rember 💡

> inb4 Skreeblebar draws the Bambamo's icon for their ability

[dreamy cliff]

wtf is skreeblebar

Nvm I see

[left merlin]

I know Temp and Super made an Obscrul teensy too (Archivist's Day On The Job) — will pull it up rq

[dreamy cliff]

True!

[tough ermine]

This is the first time I've seen this one

I'm used to Archivist's Day Off

[amber jackal]

why do you think it was called that tir

[tough ermine]

Look I know this script exists

But in the same way bigfoot does

It's elusive

[amber jackal]

ah

[half tide]

🐬

[ornate bough]

If someone could send me the Sleepwalker icon, I’d appreciate it

officially British 😔

[ornate bough]

Thank you so much

[half tide]

Sleep walker is evil confirmed?

[real shadow]

Is it just me or is there an error in the 1.3 JSON?

Something about a square bracket

[oak rampart]

i am aware of this and have attempted to fix it but it just hasn't seemed to work

[real shadow]

and Changeling and the like are separate, right?

[real shadow]

I just ran it through a validator and it seemed to fix it

[oak rampart]

at a certain point I'm thinking I'm probably just going to redo the json and images all at once, once json construction is added to the script tool

[real shadow]

gotcha, I was using the 1.1 json but the Wight icon was bothering me so I tried to update

[teal hazel]

Master JSON: Mist version

[teal hazel]

It’s not a json it’s a text.

I’ll probably have to fix that later

Considering making a google drive with master JSONs

[tired brook]

that might help, yeah

tbf the tbts master json's slightly outdated, it doesn't have resized icons

ill fix that soon though

[stark coral]

@silent shuttle you can find Fifth Wind in the google drive link

[indigo needle]

Any chance I can get my hands on the icons from this collection? I hate living in the UK

Im mostly looking for cryptid specifically, but having the lot would be amazing

[oak rampart]

progress has stalled but as someone from the UK as well, believe me, I'm going to fix that with the next update

its just that my disabilities have really been getting to me lately and i do not want to burn myself out over a fun project. but i do promise things will be fixed soon-ish.

[silent shuttle]

Would it be possible to upload the raw image of silversmith so i can print a playtest script to be played soonish? I appreciate you wanna take your time with fixing all the imgur links so you don't get burnt out - but would uploading some of the image files be an acceptable stopgap?

[turbid tundra]

I happen to have the png saved

[silent shuttle]

tysm

do you happen to have the evil silversmith png as well?

I don't really need it but just if I happen to do stuff in future with it its nice to have

[turbid tundra]

I do not 🤷

[silent shuttle]

all good

[oak rampart]

here's the evil one!

[oak rampart]

i've started actively making progress on updating and fixing all the images for my fellow unfortunate brits so look forward to that soonish?

[half tide]

👀

Is TBA back

[oak rampart]

it never left, i've just been very sick over the past few years and hvae only just recovered enough to be able to sustainably and healthily work on this stuff

[oak rampart]

I've made enough progress on this to feel comfortable announcing it:

A major update for TBA, launching alongside the fixes and refinements to the json and the pre-existing characters, is coming!

Please look forward to 6 new characters that I am in the process of finishing and testing right now.

And, since I'll be releasing each character in relatively quick succession, I believe you are all owed six cryptic hints.

A Townsfolk - Pull The Lever, Kronk!
A Townsfolk - A Poltiical Contest
A Townsfolk - Do Not Pass

An Outsider - The Mystery of the Adventure of the Tomb!!!!!

A Minion - Consider Damocles

A Demon - You Should Already Know This Characters Name

A Loric - HAND ME MY SHOVEL, I'M GOING IN!

Release Date: When it's done and no sooner.

[tired brook]

Were getting a minecraft end update before tba undate