Homebrew Brewery

[wanton ruin]

Prompt: A Traveller who completely disrupts the game / base mechanics when they are in play. (Think Bishop and Voudon)

[spice shoal]

Queue (Traveller)

Only you & the recent nominee may nominate. You must nominate each day.

[hollow skiff]

Reaper (Traveller)

• Players who die by execution that you vote against become your alignment tonight

It doesn’t really fit the prompt anymore I refined it a bit too much but I gotta get back to work so I post it anyway

[cerulean creek]

major issue

starting evils turning good

[hollow skiff]

That’s the idea

If u can trust the reaper u can potentially win the game off of that

[cerulean creek]

i dont think thats a good thing

[hollow skiff]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Script dependant

[umbral surge]

an evil reaper auto wins the game by voting on every execution and then having an insane evil count on final 3

meanwhile a good reaper auto wins the game as long as one evil player is executed

[winged estuary]

You don’t need to trust the Reaper, they just vote on every execution and the first evil executee becomes good

This is essentially “your team wins”

[hollow skiff]

If the reaper is evil then every executee is truning evil

[winged estuary]

Yes. See my last message

[hollow skiff]

That's meant to be the idea of why you can't just let the reaper go cray the whole match

they are going to be pretty unstoppable for their team but it requires a lot of trust

I'm absolutely not claiming it's balanced or even really a good idea but I think it'd be interesting in a game at least

[ashen flax]

could probably work better if it requires you to nominate and execute them

[brittle plaza]

There are three answers to this question

Mechanically, yes
Socially, no
But in the end, yes

because realistically, no sane good player is going to let the Reaper vote more than once before they get exiled

anyways with that said the Reaper does run into the classic problem of "Everyone turns evil, everyone wins" that infinite evils have
nor can you really stop the reaper from voting the first time, because I'm p sure you can't call for exiles doing noms
also literally evils figure out that the reaper is good and immediately out themselves to win with good although that's rather lame

I see the idea but Reaper has metas that will unfortunately be abused to auto-win every game

[winged estuary]

You can call for exiles at any point in the day

[brittle plaza]

well, yes, but it runs rather janky
I realistically wouldn't allow an exile to take place while my hand is halfway across the players counting votes

[winged estuary]

No not in the middle of a nom, but you can just call for exile before the first nomination

Including before noms even open

[brittle plaza]

well yeah I was assuming these players don't fuckin
despise the trav and actually wants to let it live for a bit
but yeah that's prolly the only way to stop it
kill it as soon as it travs in

😭

[winged estuary]

Also it only matters when the player actually gets executed, so as long as you exile them before the day ends you stop the alignment flip

[brittle plaza]

oh right yeah

[spice shoal]

Prompt: a character with the phrase "good/evil cannot win until/while"

[winged estuary]

Specter (Minion) - “Good cannot win until you are executed. When just 5 players live, a good player learns who you are. You & the Demon keep abilities even if dead.”

[zinc aspen]

i really like this actually

it’s clever

[ember plaza]

Thrall (Demon): Each night*, choose a player: they die. Good can't win while you live.

[ashen flax]

Why "while you live"?

[ember plaza]

because that's what demons do

me when the joke is a joke

[ember plaza]

Doesn't this just win the game if nightkilled

[ashen flax]

Ah

[ashen flax]

Dead people can still be exed

[ember plaza]

Thrall so hard it needs to connect the nerves of the transponder (this sounded a lot funnier in my head)

[amber sandal]

Prompt: A character that creates good Minions or Demons somehow.

[ember plaza]

Am I allowed to post my existing one at all, or are only new characters allowed in this thread?

Because I have one I love

[zinc aspen]

not necessarily

this thread is a workshop so try to think of new stuff

[ember plaza]

I still will

[ember plaza]

New one:

Vessel (Outsider): When the Demon dies by execution, if 5 or more players live, you swap characters & alignments with them.

Old one:

Charlatan (Townsfolk): Good Minions are excluded from & evil Townsfolk are included in evil starting info. [1 good Minion. 1 evil Townsfolk]

[ashen flax]

for vessel, maybe "you swap characters & alignments"?

[spice shoal]

Prompt: A character with [+???], where ??? is a character by somebody else in this channel

[wintry vault]

Yalvalix (Demon) Each night*, choose 2 players: they die. The ??? has the Slayer ability & the 1st time they'd die at night, they don't. [+the ???]

The Yalvalix is a powerful Demon from below, but goes up against the chosen one, equipped with shots and shield.

oh wait possible better reword

Each night*, choose 2 players: they die. The ??? has the Slayer ability during the day & the Fool's ability at night. [+the ???]

[hollow skiff]

Chantalor (Demon)

• Each night*, choose a player; they die. Once per game, you may publicly choose that a player is executed immediately [+ the Vessel]

I am aware that this is very bad but it's a fun prompt so I really wanted to give it a go LUL

[ocean hinge]

Bob (Townsfolk): You know an in-play demon and outsider and it's very fair and balanced [+ the Chantalor]

[tulip nest]

Each night*, choose 2 players, they both die unless you chose the player the storyteller believes would be the best for you to kill.

[winged estuary]

Going back to the original, hm?

[wooden socket]

Me in final three desperate choosing the other alive two players:

[tulip nest]

You would choose one alive player and one dead player

[ocean hinge]

but you see, that works because the st thinks choosing yourself to end your own misery is the best

[tulip nest]

Or they think it's best to choose the player town executed 3 times, in case of zombuul mastermind

[brisk fable]

_ ** Prompt **_: Create a character that restricts agency in some way

[spark veldt]

Lodestone (Minion)

All players know who you are. If executed, you only die if you lose roshambo. If no players choose you with their ability tonight, evil wins, unless there are no good players that can do this.

-# restricting agency is generally an unfun design space, so this doesn’t do that. instead, it’s a ticking time bomb that you need to coordinate with good to control

[ocean hinge]

Troll (Minion): Each night, you may pick a player, they learn this and can't nominate. You lose this ability when 4 people live.

[brisk fable]

it doesn't have to be someone else's agency. think golem/butler/zealot/etc

[tulip nest]

Geriatric (townsfolk)
You may only have a number of private conversations with other players equally to the number of base minions. Each day visit the storyteller to learn a secret.

Could be an outsider though

[meager granite]

Feels unfun icl

[brisk fable]

Cheating (TF): You may only vote on players who are evil.

it might actually be somewhat pragmatic if its who you believe/mad are evil?

would be an outsider then though

[tulip nest]

Could you explain why

[meager granite]

Limiting a players agency by game rule fiat just generally isn't fun

I think Butler, Zealot, and Golem make alright use of it

[tulip nest]

I thought you were talking about my character

[meager granite]

I was

I did also completely miss that the prompt was what it is

[tulip nest]

Would changing it to something like if you move too fast you might die be an improvement

[meager granite]

Nah it's apt for the prompt

[brisk fable]

_ Prompt:_ Create a pair of good and evil characters that are confounds for each other

[ocean hinge]

I have:
Bodyguard: You start knowing the character of the Assassin's target. If the target changes, you learn how many steps from them to the newest target tonight. [+ The Assassin]
Assassin: You know an alive opposing player. If they are executed, evil wins. [+ The Bodyguard]
Though I can maybe make a new pair

hm

Sweet (Townsfolk): Each day if you nominate a minion, they are drunk until dawn. You are healthy.
Sour (Minion): Each day if you nominate a townsfolk, they are poisoned.

[brisk fable]

Prompt: Create a character with a unique waking pattern

[winged estuary]

Does “unique” just mean anything that’s not:
First night
Each night
Each night*
Once per game
On death

?

[leaden heath]

Ruin a Chambermaid's day, play in the space.

[winged estuary]

“Each night*, if a player died by execution today, choose a player (not yourself): learn if they’re aligned withthe executee”

“If the Demon kills one of your living neighbors, learn the Demon isn’t 1 living player”
Could be two players, not sure on balance

Snoop (Townsfolk) - “You learn players who choose you at night &, if good, they are drunk (even if you are dead)”

Icrey (Minion) - “Each night*, if you were nominated by an opposing player today, gain the nominee’s ability but altered to help your team”

[leaden heath]

Rubberbander (Demon) - Each night*, if your team is losing, choose 3 players: they die.

[brisk fable]

Prompt: Create a night protection role that scales with demon kill rate

[winged estuary]

Ponka (Townsfolk) - “Each night*, for each player the Demon killed: choose a player. Next night, they cannot die”
Yes this can choose itself, but if they protect a player then they probably won’t be able to protect anyone tonight since the Demon didn’t kill, so if the Demon hits them twice they die

[ocean hinge]

do you mean it's once per each player demon killed

so it can pick like 5 people across the whole game

or do you mean it can pick 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 then 5

and is able to pick itself every night

one is weaker monk the other is stronger soldier

or do you mean for each player the Demon killed 'tonight'

(po destroys it lol)

[winged estuary]

This. For each it killed tonight

It can pick itself, but it can realistically only effectively protect itself one night in a row since if they get hit then they probably won’t be able to pick a player tonight

[wintry vault]

this can only lead to 1 natural end-result

Exorcist (Townsfolk): Each night*, choose a player (different to last night): the Demon, if chosen, learns who you are then doesn't wake tonight.

[meager granite]

I don't see how this fits the prompt ?

You might be looking for #homebrew-characters

[clever cosmos]

Yeah I think i did wrong channel

[brisk fable]

Prompt: Create a demon with an ability length of 12 words or less

[winged estuary]

Parahost (Demon) - “A known living player’s choices* die (If dead or you, evil wins)”

Poor wording to get it to fit into so few words, but still hopefully readable. The more properly worded version: “You know a living good player. Each night*, players they choose die (If dead or you, evil wins instead)”

[meager granite]

*role washerwoman

[cyan summit]

Washerwoman (Townsfolk) - Trouble Brewing

You start knowing that 1 of 2 players is a particular Townsfolk.

**Affects Setup: **False

[meager granite]

Particular

OH known as in

You know them

[winged estuary]

Yeah

[lethal hare]

Burner: Each Night: choose a direction: The next living good player in that direction is poisoned. You can only die if and only if they die.

[meager granite]

That's at least 25

[meager granite]

I assume you also meant #homebrew-characters ?

Alslo

Each night, choose a direction: the next living good player in that direction is poisoned. You die if & only if they die.

[lethal hare]

Bruhhhh

I cant count!

[winged estuary]

Also… This doesn’t kill?

[lethal hare]

Yeah garden of sin inspired

[ashen flax]

Town can just stall infinitely

[lethal hare]

Yeah i should have a added a Win Con to the ability

[spice shoal]

Prompt: A Demon that could replace the Imp on Trouble Brewing

[quiet breach]

How many TB char swaps allowed

[spice shoal]

I was thinking try your best drop-in replacement but im curious to see what you'd do with character swaps, so go wild

[brisk fable]

Limp (Demon): EN*CAP: they die. Outsider's you choose instead live but register as Limps.

or just demons, but monodemon tb so

shit i just realized this is gary cooper at home

[ashen flax]

This should probably say & register as evil Limps

Wait

No ignore mw

But saying evil Limps is probably better

To allow it to interact with more characters

[ashen flax]

(I read it as die but register as alive)

[queen perch]

also outsider mod probably

[ashen flax]

(& 2 negatives shouldn't have a but)

[winged estuary]

Outsider mod on TB as the solo Demon kinda breaks TB… which is why the Demon requiring Outsiders doesn’t really work (also Outsiders being unable to die at night really breaks the dynamics imo)

[brisk fable]

Prompt: Create a character that utilizes misregistration.

not necssarily part of the actual prompt, but i would be very interested if you could make it a townsfolk

[spice shoal]

Recordkeeper (Townsfolk)

You might register falsely to evil. Once per game, at night: choose that some evil learn a false statement about you.

Confuse a Spy, have a Pit-Hag fail, and then die for free to a Leviathan

Once per game, you may have the Minions learn there's a Damsel in play, or the Demon learn that you're the King, Lunatic, or even Marionette

[winged estuary]

Cryptid (Townsfolk) - “You register as evil & as a Minion or Demon to other abilities. Once per game, at night, choose to learn how many times this has happened”

[stoic vapor]

Detective (townsfolk): if your or a living neighbour misregistee to someone's ability, learn why.

[ocean hinge]

Goose (minion): Each night, pick a player, they register as "something" they aren't until dusk.

[sick gazelle]

Proxy (Outsider):
Each night, a living neighbor's character & alignment registers falsely to good abilities until dusk, even if dead.

[wintry vault]

im gonna throw in a curveball for no good reason:

Prompt: Make any character - any at all - but then make a reasonable jinx between it and Cerenovus.

[winged estuary]

Dormant (Townsfolk) - You think you are a different Townsfolk. If you are affected by a Minion, learn this & gain the ability you think you have.

Jinx: If the Dormant is executed by the Cerenovus ability & dies, they keep their ability while dead

[spark veldt]

Coroner

Each night*, you learn the character that most recently affected the most recent executee.

If the previous executee died by being executed from the Cerenovus ability, the Coroner might also learn another recent character.

[ocean hinge]

Jockey (Minion): Your good neighbors are poisoned. Each night a non-demon might trade characters with you until dusk.

: Can make players mad as the Jockey

[quiet breach]

Prompt: Make a character that requires a jinx with a character with no jinxes.

[leaden heath]

Switchboarder (Tf) - Info yielded by Minion abilities is arbitrary.

: If the Switchboarder affected them, the Mezepheles learns a word that does nothing. They may privately guess (once) who the Switchboarder is: if correct, they learn the functional word.

[ember plaza]

Large Larry (Minion): You secretly occupy 2 seats on the grimoire

(idk what this actually entails)

: : The Chef counts Large Larry as 2 evil players for the purposes of determining pairs.

[wintry vault]

Prompt: Make a character with Outsider-Mod that doesn't use already established O-Mod setup texts.

(No +1 Outsider, +2 Outsiders, -1 Outsider, -1 or +1 Outsider, -? to +? Outsiders, or X Outsiders)

[ember plaza]

balloonist erasure smh

[umbral surge]

and hermit :(

[winged estuary]

Tracker (Minion) - Each night, choose if you become drunk. Outsiders have Townsfolk abilities that are drunk when you have no ability. If you publicly guess an Outsider (once), their team loses. [2 or 3 Outsiders]

Note that the self drunk is permanent, so they give up the ability to get the wincon but drunk the abilities permanently. Might be more balanced if you can only guess living Outsiders?

[ember plaza]

Brainrot Baron (Minion)

There are extra Outsiders in play. [+6 or 7 Outsiders]

[ocean hinge]

Yankee (Townsfolk): There are no outsiders in play, if you are mad about being townsfolk, one might be added. [No Outsiders]

[leaden heath]

Corquista (D) - Each night*, choose a player: they die. Evil Outsiders register as Minions. [+1 Evil Outsider, Minions are evil Outsiders, Outsiders might be duplicates]

[wintry vault]

and im gonna drop 1 last prompt out of sheer boredom:

Prompt: Make a win-con character that either includes or excludes players in the victory, or isn't a generic good/evil/your team wins/loses.

[grim vapor]

Townsfolk: When you learn that you died, if the Demon is the next player to die; they turn Good and Good wins.

Not sure if this counts but it’s an idea

Wait I have a similar idea

Outsider: When you learn that you died, if the Demon is the next player to die; you and they win, everybody else loses.

[restive token]

why not just evil wins

[meager granite]

Because that's not the prompt

[restive token]

ah

[spice shoal]

(Townsfolk)

Once per game, at night, choose another player: if either of you win, both do, even if dead.

weird ogre townsfolk that wants to pick evil

[umbral surge]

Prompt — Bluffphobic:
Make a good character that, under normal circumstances, shouldn’t appear in Demon bluffs, either because it would be superfluous (e.g. Lunatic, King, Poppy Grower), or because the Demon shouldn’t know whether it’s in play (e.g. Choirboy, Heretic).

[ashen flax]

Choirboy and heretic should be given as bluffs

[umbral surge]

are there other example characters who you think fit that niche better?

[ashen flax]

Not really, I think your point gets across tho. Something you should consider when you give as bluffs as it does remove a puzzle for the evil team to need to solve.

[umbral surge]

right, that’s probs better phrasing

[ember plaza]

Wanderer (Outsider)

There is no starting Demon. On the 1st night, the Minion(s) choose which player is which Demon.

The Demon always knows whether a Wanderer is in play or not, based on whether they drew the token from the bag or were assigned it.

Also, Heretic is fine as a bluff. It's completely fine for the Demon to know Heretic is not in play (after all, they know this on every non-Heretic script). The problem is when the Demon knows the Heretic is in play.

[umbral surge]

yeah Moll’s phrasing of “including it in bluffs removes a puzzle for the Demon” is the goal

[peak swan]

I assume this would have [-1 Demon, +1 Minion]
Very fun take on a lil' monster / Kazali / Summoner like effect. I think this totally feels like a real role

[ember plaza]

it's definitely not +1 Minion

[peak swan]

Oh, duh, in my head it was the minions choose which minions becomes the Demon, haha, nevermind that part that

[queen perch]

this does feel like setup text

[No Demon. Minions choose which player is which Demon]

[ashen flax]

[Minions choose which player is the Demon.]

This is enough imo

(Remove the dot at the end)

& the -> which

[peak swan]

When a characters full effect is Setup, I think a summary-like line for the effect is nice.
Baron, for example, says "There are extra Outsiders in play. [+2 Outsiders]"

[queen perch]

that’s mostly just for TB to explain to new players. it’s arguably better without the line as RAW if the baron is alive, there must be extra outsiders if any leave play

[queen perch]

letting them choose the character seems significant to me

[ashen flax]

Yee, I was more so focusing on "No Demon" being superfluous

[queen perch]

oh i see

yes that’s true

[ashen flax]

And (imo) overall negative

[queen perch]

agreed

[winged estuary]

Prompt: A character that can cause the day to end at an unusual time. Think Cerenovus and Virgin that can end it early, or Butcher and Boomdandy which can extend it past an execution

[leaden heath]

Prompt: A character that uses the word "yesterday" in its ability text. (Note that for characters that act in the night, "today" is the day that just ended and "yesterday" would be the day prior.)

[ashen flax]

Necromancer

Each night*, yesterdays executee rises & is poisoned if a Townsfolk. Good can't win.

[sick gazelle]

Prompt
A character that uses the "mad as a fresh character" clause from the Ventriloquist

[turbid wadi]

Sock Puppet (townsfolk): If you are mad as a fresh character, townsfolk survive execution that day. If you are mad you are the Sock Puppet, you are drunk.

I think its a bit strong, but could definitely be a fun science role. Note that for the second clause, constantly/unjustifiably pivoting claims counts as being mad you are the Sock Puppet. Using storyteller discretion, this should really be able to proc like twice max realistically, and requires decent effort.

[ember plaza]

pacifist on crack

[turbid wadi]

pacifist but actually helpful

[ember plaza]

if you don't think paci is helpful then you either need to ST it better or give a strict talking-to to your ST

[turbid wadi]

I was joking

but ye, it was kinda meant to be a cracked paci, with a social downside that makes you read as a minion for a bit.

[ember plaza]

Although one time I did tell my ST to storytell pacifist as a townsfolk (I was the paci) and I got:

• failed to save pukka poisoned professor, which would have been hugely helpful for not obfuscating the night deaths and confirming they were legit
• saved pukka poisoned exorcist
• failed to save S&H gossip

[turbid wadi]

s&h?

[ember plaza]

sober and healthy

[turbid wadi]

crazy work

[ember plaza]

needless to say, good lost to sleeping on f4 with 3 evils alive

[wanton ruin]

Prompt
Design a character that benefits from waiting.

[wintry vault]

you

[spark veldt]

I’ll sit on this one

[sick gazelle]

On your 1st night, choose X players: On Night X, learn how many character types you chose.

(Townsfolk btw)

[plucky steppe]

Prompt:

1. Find your favorite homebrew (official also works) character.
2. Make the opposite of that character & make it balanced.

[sick gazelle]

1. Genie from Luis's Homebrew
2. Things that evil players are mad about might become false.

Boom

Easy

[plucky steppe]

u should bring og ability

[meager granite]

Organ grinder?

[ocean hinge]

we can call it bad omen (wait a minute...)

[ocean hinge]

Layman (minion): Each night, learn the player the storyteller thinks would be the worst for your team to talk to today.

great on snv maybe idk

[plucky steppe]

whats the original character

[ocean hinge]

highpriestess

[plucky steppe]

i think its a fine townsfolk, but a minion would probably want more

[ocean hinge]

Layman (minion): Each night, learn the player the storyteller thinks would be the worst for your team to talk to today and their character.

now it's a weird spy thing

put it on a snakecharmer script so it can learn it's own demon and snakecharmer

trust

this would suddenly make dreamer bluffable on snv, which raises the contridiction can something be the worst if it allows you to bluff, but idc

[sick gazelle]

this is a paradox

whoever it learns, it also learns their character, often times making it no longer the worst person to speak to

[ocean hinge]

Layman (minion): Each night, learn the player the storyteller thinks would be the worst for your team to talk to today and then their character.

problem solved

[sick gazelle]

fire

[plucky steppe]

info minions tend to be i mean... bad

spy is acceptable bc whole grim + misrge

but idk

what are ppls thoughts on info minions

[winged estuary]

They need another benefit. Spy has misreg, Godfather has kills, Widow has poison, Haruspex has kills (and finds Spartacus), Wraith and Esper get to communicate with evils, etc.

[ashen flax]

Scout (Townsfolk)

On your 3rd night, you learn an evil player.

[cerulean creek]

mmm pixels

[zinc aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1234165079646408714/1383951260474151044/IRember.gif

[ocean hinge]

[ashen flax]

it's a screenshot of a screenshot