📋︱feedback-discussion

[soft gulch]

"We are already on the verge of quitting"

Quitting the game because you get bios in JG.i don't even..

Except Red Cat's protection are other skills are meh.

[sage girder]

No, it's very random.

I have days where I get to level 32-33 and some where I get to 23-25 barely

It's a matter of luck and claiming idle rewards on time a.k.a learning that if within the first hour you only see bios, claim to reset the RND clock.

[oblique shore]

I didn’t wrote that post and that suggested solution should be changed, but I mean the problem is better than nothing… XD

[oblique shore]

I have alarm every 5:50 hours

🥲

If the question is if I properly sleep during jungle gen the answer is no 🥲

[sage girder]

I would suggest not wait for the 6 hour unless you see good 'roll' after 1 hour, usually it gets better if it's not just bios and glass.

[sage girder]

It's not worth it if it is affecting your sleep

Health>game

[oblique shore]

Idk I am an ex hardcore player of mmorpg XD

No Game No Life

[soft gulch]

There are ppl who lose sleep over getting bios

[oblique shore]

Game > Everything XD

[oblique shore]

🥲🥲🥲

[sage girder]

[oblique shore]

That actually hurted deep inside

[soft gulch]

Someone plays 17 F2P accounts and they want all to cross 30

[oblique shore]

You mean level 30?

[soft gulch]

Yea

[oblique shore]

Oh well 🤣

Back in the day was pretty hard making plasma couple of years ago

Btw i am kinda sure in jungle gem the chance of gettin bios its like 50%

Or something like that

[sage girder]

You should see the odds in the timer, I just don't have it in my quick reach at the moment.

[soft gulch]

Chances of getting something or not are always 50% either you get it or don't.

[oblique shore]

Wtf? There are the odds wrote?

[oblique shore]

Where you’ve found the odds?

[sage girder]

Sorry, didn't mean as odds, meant this chart that shows you what can appear.

[wide wraith]

well that was an interesting KoH, NOT, out numbered and out powered its hardly worth playing now

[oblique shore]

Funny fact the only thing who is appearing to me it’s the only thing who actually miss in the screenshot xd 🤣🤣🤣

[silver fractal]

i have a solution to cover all goals (at least i hope so) #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[strong grove]

No access 😬

[tranquil marsh]

I think we should reignite M Bison’s fight!! 😂

[vale yoke]

👀

You remember that?

OMG

That's from so long ago. Aww the memories...

[tranquil marsh]

Absolutely. 😂 it’s about time for another protest! 😂😂

[vale yoke]

I remember when suddenly his server was no more and I was so confused like awww

[tranquil marsh]

SOS probably got on to discord to delete it 🫢

[vale yoke]

I have no idea what happened to it. Was reminiscing earlier about all the changes in the last five years.

[tranquil marsh]

And there’s so many changes.

I certainly don’t recall ANYONE asking for a pet breeding thing as the devs said!! 🤔

[valid drift]

Hey everyone

[tranquil marsh]

👋🏼

[valid drift]

How are you?

[tranquil marsh]

Awesome thanks. How’s you?

[valid drift]

Very busy lol

[tranquil marsh]

Haha I know how you feel lol

[strong robin]

I am still trying to get my head wrap around the breeding part without feeling offensive

😌

[stable cosmos]

This whole server really does exist to some extent so f---plus can control the narrative

[strong robin]

I wonder did anyone inform peta so far

[strong robin]

They are failing terribly at it

[tranquil marsh]

If vega isn’t taking part in this pet breeding then I can’t imagine many others doing it either. The only ones breeding are the ptr

[valid drift]

I know some people that have bred their pets

[stable cosmos]

Not totally. We can't mention other games at all. Which would provide a massive counterpoint to everything they do. The mod team is inflexible about everything despite a lack of any support from the guiding company so rules are adhered to. And we get snippets from the devs based on a very inefficient feedback system that is both hidden to some extent and their responses to the feedback are wilful ignorance

[strong robin]

Sounds so inappropriate like underground chicken fights

Sos should come up with better use of term for their new feature

[tranquil marsh]

Wtf Is that helmet thing??? To wipe the memory of something!! They’re really messed up!! 😂😂

And the pills too! 🤦‍♂️

[strong robin]

It’s same as wearing a tin foil hat

🤣

[stable cosmos]

As we all know in this family friendly discord the game itself is allowed profanity, nudity, performance enhancing drugs and a few other things

[strong robin]

That’s the trait of very dysfunctional family

[stable cosmos]

And we can't call those things out because screenshots of them proving it are against the discord rules

[tranquil marsh]

I was going to send a screenshot of this helmet thing but I can’t remember where I saw it 😂

Ah it’s in the future tycoon store 😂

🤦‍♂️😂

[strong robin]

Hehehe doesn’t even look lika helmet

[tranquil marsh]

I know right! 😂

Because it’s not, it’s a memory eraser 🤣

Also, this future tycoon store sucks!!

[strong robin]

Couldn’t agree more

I wont put that helmet even on my dog

That would be very disrespectful to him

[tranquil marsh]

I really hope they drop this horrendously stupid idea, with the lack of interaction and sales from the bundles.

On a different topic, does anyone know where we can get more information on the space station?? Will it be like the carrier where once you get it to a certain level it will appear on a march?

[wide wraith]

the space station works similar a companion, it adds stats at a set level and will wound/kill enemy troops

the more you spend on it, the stronger it gets, the more damage you can do to an enemy march

it should also be noted that the stats it adds depends on your plane setting for example it might as an attack amplification of +42 at level Blue+1

or at Blue++1 it adds an Enemy wounded ratio of 0.6 to the Hawkeye Targeting system

the space station is for leads or power joiners

otherwise the average f2p may as well forget it

[tardy night]

Don't know of what happened here. In their other game, taking the server down was their core demand for taking things forward lol

The first year they joined it. The second year they asked to disband it 😂

[mortal barn]

Humm

“How to type this up without sounding like a salty player that does not matter to funplus”

So in DD, in my range we have had I think 3/4 alliances that have had players join into one alliance in a state then register… leave said alliance or stay w.e. Then dominate the DD bc it only sees the overall when matchmaking is made. After that all the high ranking butts seem to appear. I can only like rationalize this as “matchmaking” being a false marker in game and should just say “good luck players bc this system only has three paperclips and a dream”

[solid hamlet]

That is a valid concern. So the solution for this could be a matchmaking that would matchmake at the start of DD?

[soft gulch]

Are Pet Breeding and Spacecraft my breaking points?

Or the weekly twice Jungle Gems?

[solid hamlet]

[mortal barn]

I don't really get how they did it, All i know is that we faced one of them, had all their top 30 in that battle... and they are now spread between no less than like 6 alliances

[solid hamlet]

I will look into this. I am not sure either.

[mortal barn]

Thank you dear, it was just so demotivation to get to where we where to run into that... if I knew we could of done that we would of joined out Rank 1 alliance and treated them the same

[mortal barn]

I mean the Jungle gems just work on the tried and true principle of like food marts in the US; come in for something simple and maybe along the way you'll grab those three things of junk food

[solid hamlet]

So it is something that many do. They can play one match leave and play another match. I see where that is demotivating. I will submit a feedback for this if you would like.

[mortal barn]

yes please I've been trying to figure out how to word it

[soft gulch]

Jungle Gems has become overhead now. They are getting a fixed spend from mid-spenders like me who wouldn't buy a flurry of small 299 bundles but drop 50$ each jungle run.

And aside the main event they are sliding in couple of side events which don't get materials from jungle, like Bounty, Abyssal, Pharoah and now Tycoon.

OTOH, they now have longtail Spaceship which isn't getting much love from anyone because initial upgrades are far underperforming.
They usually OP the new stuff for getting whales excited they somehow missed it this time around.

Pet breeding is low key. Other than Red Cat, nothing more than a linear stats bump.

Future of SoS is looking dark suddenly.

It will boil down to HFD gotten via skins and morale

[mortal barn]

Doesn't that also weaken the pets you use to do it too? sorry I'm a low spender at best now bc of the amount of ramp up rather than listening and expanding on what they had

[soft gulch]

I have given pass to breeding completely but yeah I also read that parents get post partum weakness.

Don't worry Dr Yamazaki will have aphrodisiac supplements out soon to cure that.

[lost jungle]

There is a pet medical kid in the pearl shop to treat pet parents weakness, you can buy it with 1 crown

[soft gulch]

See. Yamazaki always worries about your pets' wellbeing.

[stable cosmos]

1 crown on something to fix punishment gameplay is in itself punishment gameplay.

Hey breed these 2 expensive pets. You might gwt something BAD out of it, and now the original pets also suck, congrats.

They had a few options and chose one nobody likes

Now, if they'd gone with a time based debuff for the original pets that could be sped up and you potentially got garbage rng that would be okish.

Or they could have guaranteed a better pet out of it, then an expense to fix the original 2 is justified.

But no. Its debuff the originals and accept an rng created extra that has no guarantee of being better than what it came from

[lost jungle]

What about making feedback about this?

[stable cosmos]

Money related, they won't do anything

[lost jungle]

We can try , nothing will change if we didn't

[soft gulch]

I think one of the biggest whale in the game, Vega gave a 👎 to Breeding, that's the feedback SoS dev chose to ignore then what worth we are in FP's eyes.

[stable cosmos]

Barely anything changes when we do. Mostly they misread it to advantage their own bank account or make changes the majority don't want (hero challenges)

I try to limit my feedback to stuff that doesn't rely on money

[tardy night]

Make it the other way around. Chinese corporation and saving face culture. Which is why they never apologize. Can't be seen making mistakes.

Throw their mistakes at their face every single chance.

Its when you don't speak up that they go on with pushing crap downhill

[soft gulch]

I think there is a light at end of tunnel. Is Scopely(Savvy games) buying FP?

[stable cosmos]

I throw their bugs and any other gameplay mistakes at them. Just not the bits where changing something that costs would give a better outcome. Cos they've only ever made that stuff worse.

Prefer to point out that the randomisation clearly isn't. Or that the gameplay they're using wasn't good 20 years ago and s worse now

Or that they still have 5 year old bugs in the game which speaks to their professionalism and competence

[steel cedar]

Friendly reminder this server is for SoS, not other games. Please keep your posts SoS related. Thanks
#📖︱server_rules

[tardy night]

[worldly sable]

What if the game is basically sos but with another name

[storm solstice]

"He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named" enter the rest

[lavish heron]

No way they listen when they know people(including Vega) will have no choice but to upgrade the pets… I’ve said this, the only way we can achieve anything or make them change a particular WE WANT and not what they want is solidarity.

All whales and spenders have to say no and don’t spend on a feature. They WILL DEFINITELY change that or stop that. But when it’s half vs half, they won’t care cause the half for the opposing side will switch when they see everyone doing it.

I only have 10 pets and that 3 of each and one free wolf. I have never cared about pets and will never care about pets.

[spark kindle]

Is this Temu sos

[stable cosmos]

Think all of sos is from temu anyway. At least from the "easy to buy low quality product" perspective. Cheap is a differe t matter

[woven spire]

They really need do something about dd times

If you face a asian alliance. Which we did 2 times in a row. You guarenteed to play 12 and 15

Only time thats not to bad for europe and america is basically 19 utc.. 0% chance getting it

On a thursday i mean

First mistake was doing dd on thursday and seconf having only 1 suitable time for the biggest part of your playerbase

[woven spire]

1 player isnt worth much

Also i dont think they care even if whole alliances do. The game is over its expire data for them

[spark kindle]

Putting tournaments in week days is really a genius move

We also got 15 UTC for our fun race finale and plenty of people won't be able to make it

Devs probably think we're all a bunch of unemployed losers who have nothing else to do but play sos 24/7

[wide wraith]

your not one of the chosen finalists

[spark kindle]

That is not the point

[wide wraith]

thats why they made it the time they did

[spark kindle]

No, if that were true, tournament favourites wouldn't be affected by it.

[wide wraith]

they have to make sure though

[woven spire]

We got 15 and now even worse. 12

All asian alliance too ofcourse

So for them perfect

[spark kindle]

Yea that's really bad

[woven spire]

Not even 1 match we played strongest 30

So dumb honestly

[spark kindle]

Asian alliances also have non Asian players so having weekday matches is a problem for everyone

[woven spire]

EOP our last oppenent

Doesnt even have reserves

[spark kindle]

It should be like svs/cc or regular rr, only on weekends

[woven spire]

And had 30

We had 29

[spark kindle]

You won though, no? I think I bet on you lol

[woven spire]

Ye idk why taking saturday and sunday with koth is so hard.. thursday is dumb as hell

[woven spire]

Yes we did, but could easily losw that. Super strong team. Raid score again dumb and untrue

And they had a whale who maxed all

200k space rating..

Highest we got is 50k

Almost 3mil rally cap makes it even worse

[spark kindle]

I stopped thinking that they have actual formulas for raid score calculations. They just make up numbers

[woven spire]

100%. It makes absolutly 0 sense

So many b teams completly destroyed A alliances

And more should have.. as some A like NOP got free walk in the park

While kob gets matched with lam

Or SAN.. walk in park but lost of our split legion RR

[spark kindle]

If they left it to us, player base would make better groupings 😂 seriously

[woven spire]

Honestly times and day disaster. Same for scores

[spark kindle]

Everyone wants fair challenges, shouldn't be such a big ask

[woven spire]

We started tournament with 23mil and now we 28 for some reason. Doubt we spend that much😂😂

Final probally 30?😂

[spark kindle]

😂😂

[woven spire]

Yep, our match probally decided by time

We do our best but 12 utc is complete nonsenses

For americans 5am

For europe.. literally middle of work

[spark kindle]

Lol imagine doing rr right before you head out to work

[woven spire]

Yep😂

But not much of a choice😂

KOF its 2100 for them

Super ideal

[stable cosmos]

Try being in nz or aussie. Rr, dd,koth, all total misery

[wide wraith]

their is a simple answer next tournie dont register

[woven spire]

Ye but the game is dominated by americans and europeans

[wide wraith]

make it fail

[stable cosmos]

They auto register people. You'd have to have alliances choose not to play

[woven spire]

If your main income is europe and america.. why make a bad day + 4 bad times for them?

Thats very bad business

[stable cosmos]

I don't get why we can't have saturdays back

[woven spire]

Ye doubt anyone plays cc anyway

[wide wraith]

simple the game is racist

[woven spire]

Svs.. time after 16 utc or whatever

[spark kindle]

I would be fine with having matches on both saturday and sunday if that would mean no more week day matches

[woven spire]

Oh ye. Funplus is known for it

They favour asians heavily

Look at KOA

[vale yoke]

I try not to

Lol

Everytime I do, it's usually "oh man, this will be us"

[woven spire]

Ye.. honestly. Our match might be decided by time

And cant even blame anyone for not showing up

Honestly super annoyed with this. Why they even changr the first format. Good days, good times and all

14 utc in saturday/sunday is not a issue for anyone

[stable cosmos]

Fair fights would garner more spend. Easier to justify spend for the final inch than to get yourself 7 miles up. And why spend much if you stomp people

[solemn kraken]

yeah, but fair fights would lead to whales losing, and they can't allow that

[stable cosmos]

1400 sucks. I want 2100 saturdays around still

[woven spire]

Sure but 1400 saturday is for most teams equal show up %

[vale yoke]

We all know the timing is purposeful, but i don't see how they believe it's worked for them considering the continued decline in engagement.

[woven spire]

As its a day most are not at work and for all tz mostly friendly

[stable cosmos]

Course i also want fairer matching and a wider player pool via additional legions so i should probably buy a lotto ticket instead, might have more luck

[woven spire]

Just asians..

I could tell last vs eop its gonna be 15

This one. All their matches played at 12utc

Wonder why

But hey. We got 19 first choice and never get it

Everything under 19 was bad for us. 15 12 0900 0300

[stable cosmos]

Heck look at last nexus. Very first one, everyone got 1400 even when teams didn't select it

I don't really think there is any matching at all any more. Its just pulling numbers from a hat.

[wide wraith]

you mean chucking darts at a dartboard

[stable cosmos]

They're not skilled enough to hit the dartboard

[wide wraith]

exactly

[solemn kraken]

more like chucking a dartboard at a dart

[wide wraith]

not that i really care as not in it, but its a systematic of the Devs failures

[vale yoke]

I don't even think they know how it works, but they can't admit that. Just like I think they won't admit they screwed up when they removed Saturday matches.
They'll shift the blame on us like "oh the community said-"

The community says a lot of things and they never listen, why start with that one

[stable cosmos]

I don't think they know how anything at all works any more. They can add to whats there, but everything "new" is a bolt on, never changes to old stuff for the progression of the game

I still giggle a bit at "we're gonna remove FF, oh wait we can't we'll break everything"

[wide wraith]

but what do you expect with a company who have the communication skills of a rocking horse

[vale yoke]

"we're gonna remove FF"
"Wait, no we're not, jk lol"

"we'll remove hero challenges"

"based on skewed polling and our inability to read the results"

[stable cosmos]

It was a bit of an admission for them. They literally said they sucked in a way. Normally they'd have tried to save way more face, or lied

"Due to popular demand we're not removing FF any more" is more what I'd have expected

[vale yoke]

I kind of appreciate when the dev team is a bit... Idk... Human about this stuff. "Oops, no we can't, it will break the game. Instead we'll break it another much less direct way"

With bugs in monitors

[stable cosmos]

I also loved the update that ruined the battle engine and had p13s bouncing off tiny HQ5s

[vale yoke]

We all know game development isn't easy despite all the toolkits and such out there for fledgling devs, but FPs method of development - right down to their project teams and bolt-ons - aren't working anymore.
The money has been drying up month after month, and players are not satisfied with that is passing for events and features.
At this point, logging in on any given day is more about grabbing idle rewards than actually playing the game - what kind of company would prefer that over actual engagement?

[wide wraith]

i remember them saying communication would get better, its actually got worse

[vale yoke]

I remember Lans

[wide wraith]

yeah i do too, especially when he said there wasnt a gap between spenders and f2p

[solemn kraken]

how could there not be?

that is literally the reason to spend

[vale yoke]

You know who I randomly thought about yesterday? Ashley. That cookie modster dealt with a lot from us during the Lans Fireside chat era

Is she still around? If so, hi Ashley!

[wide wraith]

i also remember the days when someone would actually answer questions be it a mod or CM

of course that would mean those in the FunPlus group would actually have to do something

[cursive vessel]

You expect a gap between spenders and non spenders but we've got a canyon. It's not remotely the same 😂

[wide wraith]

and as one of my games said "f2p are the backbone of any game and should be able (with time) aquire anything that a spender does"

[solemn kraken]

problem is, that time is measured in glacial growth 😛

[cursive vessel]

Spenders pay to get it quicker, it should never be unachievable

[wide wraith]

no it would mean there are no pay only events

[solemn kraken]

also a problem: you get some F2P's who don't want to pay or to wait

[wide wraith]

true but the chance should at least be there

[vale yoke]

This is so true, I've met more than a few who just want things because they want them but don't want to put in the minimal effort or time to achieve those things.

[solemn kraken]

there are always gonna be be pay only events, but F2P's should at least be able to participate and get something

[woven spire]

I have a few issues with the game. 1. Time consuming. Even some say can do it in 5min a day without events.. no true if you want do things right. 2. Times and event schedules.. Most is just.. awful for anyone. 3. Complicated features without info or testing. I like the strategy stuff, but i do not like when we need to smell how it works and its mainly exclusive for huge spenders, not even big spenders.

But i also accepted that nothing will change

[wide wraith]

if f2p can take part then the events are not pay only

[woven spire]

Oh last one.. you either forced to merge some big alliance to get big too or you need to accept your faith to get swallowed

[cursive vessel]

It's like the res heroes, if they're offering a pay version they could offer a free version too, even if it's weaker 😅

[vale yoke]

Someone in my other game asked me how long it takes to do my dailies after five years here. I said it takes between 30 minutes to an hour depending on if it's a Season, what minigames are on offer, etc.

They got very quiet.

[woven spire]

it takes me longer.. not just dailys

[solemn kraken]

another game use to have Events regularly, free could still take part but have very slim chance of getting anything good (like, only one or two free goes), but now, those Events are not only heavily Pay-to-Participate, but have been put behind a Level-Lock so anyone under a certain level can't even see them let alone join in

[wide wraith]

with res heroes everyone should be able to get to at least 4star

[woven spire]

Simple things like gear, pets and whatever. Setting stuff up, leadership duties, mines.. all together is 2-4h ingame a day

[vale yoke]

YUP, easily

[solemn kraken]

thought that was the difference between some of the Skins: Deluxe were the Pay-Now skins and the Premium were the cheaper quality version for those who don't or can't pay

[vale yoke]

Standard are the cheap one

[cursive vessel]

They release paid for res heroes regularly, like the twins but there's nothing for people who don't pay. They could offer a lower powered version for free 🤷‍♀️

[solemn kraken]

Free's could still maybe get the Deluxe one day, but not for a year or so after something bigger and shinier was released

[cursive vessel]

But i have very few res heroes so 🤣

[solemn kraken]

it's more difficult to do that with Heroes

wasn't there a time when there was one hero per release that was Pay only? or was that a different game?

[wide wraith]

my main account has all to lvl 4 but my f2p in the same alliance has 2

[cursive vessel]

I got the dude from res evil to 4 and that's it. Got one of the turtles (the free one they offered) to 4 with skills unlocked and that's my lot for res heroes 🤣

[vale yoke]

I think my Daryl is level 4, Joker is 4, Ada and Chris are 4, and like one or two of my turtles. Oh and my Lara is 4. Wait no, she's 3 almost 4. But I'm saving my general reso frags so she can stay that way, idc

Daryl being a 4 equivalent, really

[cursive vessel]

I think my lara is 3.. maybe

[vale yoke]

He hasn't mattered in 4 years

4.5 years

Lol

[cursive vessel]

😂

[vale yoke]

I come across people using Wacko still and that trips me up

Like omg I remember him

[cursive vessel]

I've seen them too 😅

But i dunno why they use him 😂

[vale yoke]

Hey, get those old heroes into circulation, I don't mind.

They need to stretch their legs

Get some cardio

[solemn kraken]

all the turtles were free...

[wide wraith]

most of the older heros were pvE only

[cursive vessel]

I could upgrade some of the one's I have but there's gonna be another collab at some point so it's pointless wasting frags

[solemn kraken]

all mah Heroes are too low to worry about

[cursive vessel]

Yeah you could unlock them but they offered more frags for one of them, donatello? Can't remember which one 🤣

[vale yoke]

I'm waiting for it to be announced. No clue what's coming this year for collabs but if they keep with the theme of unrelated properties, maybe we'll get MLP

The newest MIGO is making me think Soman is trying to raise Cthulhu, so maybe we'll have My Little Pony, Apocalypse Ponies lol

[cursive vessel]

I'm totally on board with that one 😂

[wide wraith]

can i have a squad of Space Marines from WH40k properly done they would wipe out everything lol

[stable anvil]

This makes no sense
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[woven spire]

which turtles were free? xD

[stable anvil]

You have to stay until registration closes to be assigned into your alliance Doomsday

[woven spire]

To unlock you mean?

[lost jungle]

I remember you could unlock all turtles for free and upgrade at least one hero to level 4

[woven spire]

also we getting money back?😂

Tried to save glasses to make top 20 everytime

But cant make the pass that way lmao

[soft gulch]

Are they giving or not...what a scam this pass was

[solemn kraken]

all four, was able to get all four (got the last one when they brought back the Gacha), but was never able to get the rat

[soft gulch]

Yep..some ambulance chasers

[woven spire]

Yes but unlocked?

[solemn kraken]

what do you mean 'unlocked'?

[woven spire]

leveled it was theorically impossible to get them usefull (leaving the purple out)

I mean you just unlocked 3 turtles for free

or also got them at level 4?

I have a f2p acc and could only get the purple one level 4 and big unlocked

with some frags on skill

[solemn kraken]

oh, you mean the Frags? only enough to Locate them

[woven spire]

Oooh

Yes true

Which is dumb, cause what is the point XD

[soft gulch]

Fkrs made it look like gacha coin will expire everytime when new turtle comes

[woven spire]

As f2p. if you dedicated. you could get exactly 4 usefull resonate heroes

[soft gulch]

So I used to use them all

[solemn kraken]

see, ah get confuzzled by terms sometimes (like, all times) 😦

thought you just meant Locate

[stable anvil]

whats worse is that the mileage was for all turtles they didn't have seperate ones for each of them like they did with REs Evil heroes

So once you used all coins you didn't get any extra coins or frags which was total b.s

[solemn kraken]

they didn't?

honestly, can't remember, ah was just trying to get enough Frags from the free spins

[stable anvil]

I remember they stopped because event was over and then like 1 week or so later they brought turtles back all 4 at once

Event was supposed to be over all coins used and they reopened it

Tbh turtle collab was more rushed then Resident Evil one

[soft gulch]

Yeah that was some new 5ickery they did with Turtles, RE went very clean.

Even Lara for all it's follies with Specops, I was able to max with little little spend

[solemn kraken]

you mean each different turtle? or each time the Event was around?

[soft gulch]

Turtles were given out one by one

[solemn kraken]

yeah, ah usually didn't both with the coins because ah barely got enough to receive even the first reward

[soft gulch]

I think last 2 turtles were unlocked together

[solemn kraken]

and next time, ah'm gonna wait until the final to use the things like Pickaxes as those count for every Stage once it's open

[stable anvil]

Yup

Blue and red

[vale yoke]

TMNT was a horrible collab for several reasons, one being that the content was banned for two regions of players unless they used a VPN to get around international sanctions.

And of course liability for that isn't on anyone but those players 🥴

[solemn kraken]

ah remember had to wait until the return to get red (and kept getting Donnie and Raph mixed up)

[stable anvil]

Didn't give us enough time to enjoy resident evil heroes who are for obvious reason a zombie apocalypse character

[soft gulch]

Initial 2 turtles had nurse-fetish, 10% wounded rate was their skill.
And whenever new turtle was released they sent a message that existing gacha coins will expire, so everyone used them rather than saving for last 2 turtles.

[stable anvil]

They nerfed them instantly for mutated turtles and a rat

[solemn kraken]

Donnie was first, right? the Purple one?

[vale yoke]

Release order was Donatello, Michaelangelo, and then Leo and Raph released together. To get Splinter, those turtles needed to be ...

At least res 4, is that right guys?

[stable anvil]

Purple then orange had seperate times and blue and red both came at once

[stable anvil]

You needed to unlock skills too

[vale yoke]

I don't have splinter lol

[vale yoke]

Ah yeah, yup

Thanks Chiefty

[stable anvil]

The skill is what gave the item to locate splinter

[solemn kraken]

managed to get enough Frags to get Donnie to 3 or 4, not sure if ah even got the others to 2

[soft gulch]

Anyone I sent those turtles back to sewers really quick, Didn't have any desire to use them because of the wounded rate.

[stable anvil]

Lvl 4 only gave pizza

[vale yoke]

so fun

Well that didn't work.

Ah well, idc

Tbh I saved my story missions so I had stuff to do later on. I'm about halfway through the third turtle story and I'll probably do something nice for myself and finish it for TD this week.

[soft gulch]

Collab is nice, because the skills the reso get have to attractive for ALL states and especially old states.

Dmg reduction on Lara is very sweet, it's like Selena, albeit less.

[stable anvil]

Idk why devs didn't go more all out on Resident Evil heroes, instead they were money hungry for more collabs

[vale yoke]

Still get those completion chips, which just makes me chuckle

[stable anvil]

Last day for resonate vouchers store was also closed once we got Res Evil collab too

[soft gulch]

The worst Collab was Pacific rim, one of our whales was so piZzaed off cuz other whale got 50.frags from skin gacha in few pulls and he had to spend like 3000$

[vale yoke]

PacRim was ridiculous, and I really feel it was just to show Legendary that this team makes money on partnerships and collabs. Nothing more than a love letter, like Joker's collab was.

[stable anvil]

Those general skin frags are also a punch to the face

[vale yoke]

I might actually appreciate getting punched in the face, tbh

[stable anvil]

If you didn't locate because devs were greedy with the low probability then you just wasted your money for nothing

[vale yoke]

Ayup

God that gacha whatever it was was horrible.

The whole thing was just sort of jury-rigged together in the first place, like some last ditch effort to appeal to investors with minimal work, but a lot of that collab felt very insulting to players of all demographics.

[solemn kraken]

okay, secondary has Donnie at lvl4, Leo has enough to reach 2, others would need Legendary Res Frags (including Donnie to reach 5)
with main it's Mikey who has enough to reach 2

oh, forgot to mention other than Donnie they are all on lvl 1

[vale yoke]

I get sad with reso, because everything is essentially worthless until you have it on reso 4 or higher.

So I've got a bunch of heroes that just hang out there and stare at me accusingly because I don't use them.

But also, when paid reso like Angelica, Selina, and the twins get released, it's like why bother? As soon as I see someone has those in a fight, I just don't even put effort in. If they're willing to pay that amount of money for heroes, I have no chance with my little freebie guys.

I'm not gonna pay $7200 for one hero, so what chance do I have against someone who did? Not much of one.

[cursive vessel]

I dunno, sometimes I feel like people get them and think they're all magical and they aren't 😅
Yes, they help but they're also not the only thing that will win them a fight. Some people fully focus on the wrong things, even spenders.

Not saying that's everyone by the way, most of the time they know what they're doing and so I agree with you about avoiding them

[patent olive]

...

[stable anvil]

I remember those days

[patent olive]

Joint exercise before v1.20 was great

After v1.20 tons of bugs (happening on newest state)

1. Automatically zoom on each attack
2. 2 seconds gap between first and second march
3. Unlimited spawn animation (green orb thing) more green orb = more lags

[nimble vapor]

I don’t miss those days

[vale yoke]

Aw man, joint ops. Never been so happy to see something go.

Underground, though... I miss underground.

[tiny quiver]

Underground was the best no matter if you payed to play or a regular free player

Fun , good rewards … but as with everything if it works they kill it or break it

[patent olive]

Yeah I missed those days so hard 😦

2 years no underground

When underground released now, most likely kraken will 1 hit zombie and easy 100th Floor 😅

[tiny quiver]

Hi Liannin

[vale yoke]

Hi Grandma!

[tiny quiver]

Still no chat with the developer I see..good thing you didn’t hold your breath

[vale yoke]

A year and a half, and counting... It's become part of my lore now, which is weird on several levels.

[tiny quiver]

They afraid of you girl !

[lost jungle]

Have you tried to repair the game?

[woven spire]

Look magic trick

[drifting token]

Hi there could i get abit more of a understanding of what you are trying to point out here thank you

[cursive vessel]

I'm wondering how he got coins when he hasn't played😅

[drifting token]

I did see this i was abit confused

[tiny quiver]

High coin count but no rounds the board

[woven spire]

its not my account

[vale yoke]

Ah, wanna toss me a few- awwwww not yours

[woven spire]

Looks funny

[vale yoke]

Boooo

[tiny quiver]

Bundles

[vale yoke]

booo

Lol

[woven spire]

has 0 dices

[oblique shore]

What state you are? My god I don’t see that stuff from like years?

[cursive vessel]

There is that thing in the corner, bingo whatever it is

Does that give coins ha

[oblique shore]

It look bugged af

[patent olive]

State 1332, it looks bugged af

[woven spire]

Haha, reason is last tycoon or so. you had the crate to choose 9k coins or hq

This guy saved the crate

😂

[cursive vessel]

Oooh, that makes sense

I haven't even looked at it this time around, with my 3 dice, didn't think there was any point 😂

[oblique shore]

Better report the bug in the other Chanel I don’t think it’s playable with all that stuff around

[solemn kraken]

it's not playable due to no Dice being around (unless you are a Bundler)

[vale yoke]

Have we pretty much accepted that the first two fortune tycoon days are paywalled? Yes, yes I think so.

[woven spire]

Dont worry

You get 1 jungle

Jungle is very good for everyone, even overwhelming. You dont need to spend to get decent rewards

[solemn kraken]

ah only go as far as 10, to get the statue thingies

but didn't bother this time

[unreal lichen]

We should get used of this situation. Since there are more and more events overlapping, you need to buy bundles to participate some of them. Or simply ignore them.

[solemn kraken]

people can buy the dice though, right?

butt yeah, too many overlapping events, specially ones that connect, like the Jungle: it is where non-payers tend to get the things for Dice, Balloon and a couple others, but not at the same time

[unreal lichen]

exactly, this time dice, magnifying glass and bullets go together. So we can play Ballon and pass the other 2.

[solemn kraken]

ah've skipped Jungle this time, got very little of the free picks this time (9 for main and only 3 for second)

[oblique shore]

Actually balloon got 2 time jungle gem, probably next jungle will be on dice

Btw fun fact no shop jungle = lv16 in 1 day and 18h XD

Maybe I am wrong but I have the feeling who everytime the ratio to drop go down or I am just so unlucky (probably the second but details 🤣🤣🤣)

In any case there are event more worth to join than others

For low spenders Jungle Gem it’s one of best event

[sharp knot]

I agree with you

[tardy night]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

There are states with multiple alliances in doomsday finals? 👀

New state brackets?

[woven spire]

not in old

not sure what he means

thats not even possible

how can you even be registered in 2 alliances?

[cursive vessel]

I dunno, i didn't really understand what he was saying cause you can't be in two dd matches 😅

[tardy night]

Maybe duels and doomsday ? Play doomsday one alliance. Duels after dd

[woven spire]

cant leave on thursday

[cursive vessel]

You can't leave alliances on Thursdays

Ha

[tardy night]

Ye that's why am wondering what's up

We got bots writing feedback 🤣

[wide wraith]

they are probably seeing alt accounts in different states/alliances and confusing them

[vale yoke]

To be fair, I'm confused too. Who did what, now?

Oh. Oh dear.

To be fair, I do think in these instances, mods should be aware how these events operate to reduce the likelihood that feedback isnt as relevant

But that's just me.

[wide wraith]

through no fault of theirs, Mods have never known how events actually work, just as when i used to stream , there is no prior information, so it becomes the blind leading the blind, take last night someone asked about the spaceship and not one mod answered

and that isnt a criticism of the Mods but it is of the Devs

[stable cosmos]

Half the game works on f2p making mistakes and being annoyed or p2w doing the same and wasting money.

It would be preferable that any new feature came with a gameplay based how to work it thing. I still don't know what my spaceship does. It just sits there and gets new parts when they're available

[wide wraith]

I figured it out, its based on the settings for the plane

for example capsule one boosts the spearhead, talon, beacon for the first 3 levels

as far as i can tell its the strongest in the rally that counts similar to vehicles but some conformation would be good

[solid hamlet]

I am still trying to figure this out. Any info would be helpful. I didn't think it was possible but I am looking into this more.

[vale yoke]

That's my point is that communications are so bad in regard to the information the mods receive about these things that they can't expect to do as good a job when it comes to feedback that is, at least insofar as I can see, technically factually inaccurate.
It isn't Ferry's fault if a player doesn't realize how DD lock-ins work, nor is it any other mod's fault that the devs didn't give anyone information about spaceship before they launched the silly thing.
But it absolutely affects the ability for the mods like Ferry and others to perform their role in supporting and educating players here on server.

I'm kinda mad on their behalf (again)

I'm so annoyed by that, I couldn't punctuate properly.

[wide wraith]

its always been like that though, and i am also mad on their behalf,

but it was the same 2 years ago as a streamer i asked for some information before an event was released and got told in no uncertain terms no, and a person who is still streaming the game said we never have had such information, why should we start now

[stable cosmos]

Mods need to unionise. Decide what you want from f---plus and then choose what to enforce or not until you get it.

[strong robin]

A bag of diamonds & they are good to go

😂

[strong robin]

I bet if mods can answer 5 questions correctly that i ask it will make me have some faith in them may be i start believing that they can make a change and making sure at least devs hear half of the things players ask for

[oblique shore]

Mods duty isn’t the all knowledge of game

Someone could be a good moderator even without know litterally nothing of the game

[wide wraith]

Above Average Game Knowledge thats what it says is a requirement to be a mod

so yes they have to know the game

[oblique shore]

That’s true

[stable cosmos]

Mods don't need to know the game. Not part of the role. Role is enforcing fps insane rules.

[oblique shore]

Still I say this

[wide wraith]

i say they need both, even if its just knowledge of the basics

[oblique shore]

There is a channel bonded to this

Where players can give an opinion by putting a plus or a minus

On the feedbacks

Its the duty of all players do that, cause players fight for what they desire to be heard by devs

A mods need to have “heart” and “patients”, we all know the basic stuff
But so few people have the empathy and the mind to deal with all the kinds of players

[strong robin]

That’s the basic requirement what else they mean when they say mods are there to help players? imagine you calling tech support and they say sorry sir but we don’t know much about it 😂

[wide wraith]

that sounds like my isp tech support

[oblique shore]

In some country that could be ordinary administration but detail

[strong robin]

Several feedbacks are repeated some of them crucial ones with more than 100 upvotes but devs still come up with something to ignore that

[oblique shore]

I am explain myself better

[coarse verge]

They mean state mega , several new states made a mega to win DD

And what he / she is referring to is totally different than how the feedback is written

We can adjust the roster between stages so big players who didn’t join qualifiers joined elimination and so on so technically they played in different alliances in different stages

And some just join one day like Sunday while playing AD in their alliance Thursday but no one can play same stage in different alliances, so feedback is weird

[oblique shore]

I am not talking about what mods have to do here, I am talking about an ordinary moderator what have to do, in any case “base knowledge of the game” it’s something totally different from know everything or things who are very “precious information” if you know what I mean XD

[strong robin]

There can be only two reason for that either there is lack of communication from feedback end or if devs purposely wanna ignore f2p players opinions just catering to the needs of p2w players

[oblique shore]

We both know the answer

Everyone know the answer

It’s sad but most of time the truth it’s sad

[strong robin]

I don’t try to read in between the lines it’s black and white without any space for grey

[oblique shore]

This will not stop players to ask to a mod to make another feedback

[oblique shore]

I mean it’s kinda obviously who devs have the order to make stuff for keep the game alive and that stuff will always be a bit more for p2p than f2p

[vale yoke]

[strong robin]

It’s going way out of proportion for past couple of years for f2p only option left is to bubble during cross server events they can’t catch up with whales gap is getting wider and wider each day it’s not balanced anymore

[oblique shore]

That’s it’s perfectly correct

And no jokes around 3 moths ago I got zeroned while my game crashed

[strong robin]

If p2w players are investing money than f2p are investing their time and effort there should be balance of some sort some middle ground to keep both happy and willing to continue

[oblique shore]

I am still recovering my troups (recruitment office)

[strong robin]

That’s what i was referring too

Once you get zeroed it’s hard to catch up

[cursive vessel]

Nobody disagrees with you that the gap is massive but there's not a lot anyone can do about it

Unless you quit 😅

[oblique shore]

For my luck all troups (around 10 millions) gone into recruitment office

[vale yoke]

The gap is meant to widen. Idk if that wasn't clear, or...?

[oblique shore]

And I am still getting back after around 3 months…

[strong robin]

Game lagging is not your fault cs should give you your troops back if you have all the proof

[strong robin]

It is but it’s taking out the fun and enthusiasm from the game in the process

[oblique shore]

Don’t focus on that, 3 moths ago I was playing with an iPhone 7 who has eight years of live so let’s take it out from the talk that part XD

[oblique shore]

This is the good focus

[oblique shore]

About this

We who are played could think about a good feedback to propose

And all together share that feedback and make people see it

And push that feedback up

Every time who is needed to be heard from mods

Fighting for what we need (and it’s a need not a desire cause I mean yeah actually a top tier p2p could litteraly erase someone with one attack)

[vale yoke]

I'm curious what you think player volunteers have in terms of access to the developers

[oblique shore]

What you mean?

[vale yoke]

Mods aren't employed by FunPlus. FunPlus doesn't pay them money for doing this. They're players who are volunteering for minor in-game comp.

[strong robin]

They keep devs anonymous like they are some sort of secret agents lol

There should be live stream with cm and devs with players once a month at least they can get the idea from live comments what majority wants

[oblique shore]

Devs are workers from the company who own the game

[strong robin]

But they don’t play the game

[oblique shore]

Mods are just moderators of the section who they moderate

[vale yoke]

They don't know who the devs are lmao are you kidding? It's not like they have super secret pow-wows and discuss feedback. There are people who are actual employees, like CMs, who are more of the middle people, and then there are mods who help with collection and logging.

[oblique shore]

They don’t have too

Devs are workers who follow the will of the company

[vale yoke]

Mods are just players, literally like you and me

[strong robin]

If they are not aware of what’s going around they will keep pushing new things thinking that’s what players actually want

[oblique shore]

If they don’t do company will have less profit from the game

And a company who have less profit from something could chance the mind to have that thing or not

[stable cosmos]

Company profit has been dropping for ages. They just use it to spin up a new game under a new name and keep it going.

[strong robin]

With saber there was some hope he used to jump in here few times answering to player questions but with nanami i feel like he is refined version of chat gpt

😄

[vale yoke]

Supposedly, there are dev accounts that play, but I haven't actually seen any proof of it. That said, mods are quite literally just player-side support people to help maintain the server, transmit information, perform feedback and bug collection, and sometimes maintain social spaces.
They aren't company employees and don't speak with devs

[stable cosmos]

They also have no real power. At all

[vale yoke]

They're players with families and jobs who take time out of their day to be here helping you guys

Lol

As best they can with the little information and support they seem to get at least

[oblique shore]

This it’s pretty clean, I think the same

[vale yoke]

I know it for a fact. I was kicked out of mod training here

[stable cosmos]

You could be a toxic sod here,but those actions wouldn't spill into the game, and vice versa

[strong robin]

No way really? 😂

Were you too wok for them?

[vale yoke]

It was likely well earned lol

[stable cosmos]

Wouldn't be hard. Ask "why" too much

[vale yoke]

Hey Dark Legion

[tardy night]

It's not like they can't have an interactive CM.

[stable cosmos]

1000+ messages, wow

[tardy night]

That's a year old beta app. Scaling up, it would be 5k+ at the same rate

[strong robin]

That’s more preferable than the non performing one

[tardy night]

Fart+ new game

[vale yoke]

FGF's CM is absolutely lovely tbh.

[stable cosmos]

Saberlots total was 1246. Nanamis is sub 500

[vale yoke]

You can tell he tries really hard, and people seem to appreciate that effort. The tagging is at a minimum as well, as a result of the engagement.

I feel bad for Nanami here some days

[strong robin]

Absolutely

[vale yoke]

I wouldn't answer tags either lol

Just too many in volume between messages and everything, I assume. It always feels like someone here is tagging her

[stable cosmos]

I'd feel bad for nanami more if she was engaging and still getting 💩 from us. But she's not and its aggravating instead

[vale yoke]

I get why the tags, don't get me wrong, but it probably gets overwhelming

[strong robin]

I feel like nanami is filling up for saber till they find someone better can’t expect much from someone who just wanna do bare minimum for the sake of doing it

[tardy night]

Simply tells you they have this title on the backburner now and moving it to cash cow stage.

[vale yoke]

DC is honestly a good IP to choose for something like that, too. Them and Marvel, they love mobile games

[stable cosmos]

I wish they'd speed that process up then. Smack us down to 16 states and call it done. Never open a new state

[vale yoke]

It's gonna happen slowly, our consolidation. But we'll know.

[tardy night]

We already are there I think? Less than 400 total states even if count is over 1300

It was 252 or 256 states for 1-964

Consolidation been happening

The rest that remains is slowly cut down on cust support, stuff mtx with mini games copy pasted instead of anything substantive, staff costs they already bring down when this is ghost town and art is drivel from some image generators. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[tidal apex]

Hero backstories also looks like taken from some chatgpt prompt :p

[vale yoke]

We can already see some of this being staged, as well. Obviously the first things that come to mind are the minigames.
But even earlier than the onslaught of kittens and gems, we saw it when they started fiddling with Lucky Cards and switching older mini-games out for these newer styles which give idle rewards and claimables.
Migrate from active creative development of most content to only focusing on seasonal theme and collaborative designing. Everything else can be mainly handled by AI while the art team is focusing on fulfilling IP licensed art.

They got rid of underground which was arguably a popular event, in lieu of Alliance Duels and Nexus on a rotation, which haven't been as popular. But people do them because badges.

They've sort of developed their own exit strategy and idk why I didn't see it. Dang it Chek.

[stable cosmos]

I think the cat stuff is really well made. It should totally be its own title and not inside sos.

You have the main cat game with potentially hundreds of levels and people pay for extra moves and bonus items. Then you have the pvp portion which I'm not aware of in a match 3. Finally you can have the jam game as an offshoot as something earned from pvp that grants extra items for campaign. They're on a total winner there. Just remove it from sos now cos its done its beta testing

[tardy night]

If you see Ad and nexus in their original form, you will laugh at what they brought here

People were addicted to ad in its original form. There was even a strike to get it back when it was removed.

5-6 opponents, free teleports, each alliance got 5 buildings to protect. One march could be present at any given building only. And the better you were able to protect a building, the bigger handicap you got in stats as the game went on.

These "devs" destroyed everything to make it pay to win

People with 1 single troop could make whales sweat it out

It was balanced. Allowed everyone to contribute meaningfully, and strategy and diplomacy all played their part.

Ad is a joke in comparison

[mortal barn]

Yo that sounds fun as heck

[rain reef]

🤣 aside neighbor with very strong and cannot escape from ch 1 in old format, in being quite low power alliance we manage get more first occupied reward on new format especially more if pair with death alliance

[digital glacier]

I wish there was a poll for nexus and duel with realistic answers
Like > I only do it for the migo badge

I only do it because its easy to find resources to gather
I only do it because there's more mines available
I enjoy it 🤣
I can test my power against others providing 1 or 20 whales don't burn me first 🤣
I play it because I'm in the whale alliance
if it was removed from the game I would be happy
^but sad

[stable cosmos]

Lots of people played it because the glory was easy to get. But thats not a positive for gameplay, just a positive for when fp mucked up prize ratios for once

[unreal lichen]

The new nexus is a good activity in some way. Because there are occupation restrictions, whether you are a big alliance or a small alliance, you can think about strategy to maximize the rewards.

[stable cosmos]

Its 5 weeks long. The timing is bad, the gameplay itself is pretty horrendous for the first 3 of those days and the methodology around offense and defence is busted

[solemn kraken]

Jungle needs to be made interesting, whether it's twice a week or every day

ah haven't done it this time because so far, main has only gotten 9 Picks

[wide wraith]

if it was a PC game maybe it would be a good idea but this is a mobile game, pick up amd put down , not spend 8 hours a day on it

the Devs are stuck in the past, thinking everyone is still in lockdown

[solemn kraken]

... we aren't?

[wide wraith]

havent been in lockdown for a few years, The Devs need to learn that

maybe someone should tell them, oh wait, the one person who could has other duties that take priority over the Community they are supposed to Manage

[unreal lichen]

Maybe that's why they're releasing PC and Mac version.

[wide wraith]

oh come on that will fail horribly

[unreal lichen]

But I do agree this game is too much to mobile now.

[wide wraith]

its not exciting enough and they are cutting back as a company on new projects

does the studio not listen to anyone including there own top management

and by top management i mean those in Switzerland

those we should be able to complain too, because they obviously do not know whats been happening both in the game and on social media like here is Discord

and to be successful on a PC or Mac there would have to be a lot more f2p stuff, so they cant be getting ready for that lol

[stable cosmos]

Pcand mac are like, having it on in the background or on a second screen while you play something better.

Which is basically any pc game from the last 30 years.

This is a fine mobile time waster but i wouldn't put it above anything in the pc world

[wide wraith]

and they would have to improve CS by about 1000000%

can you imagine it, you buy a game about the zombie apocalypse and up pops feeding frenzy, the dumb kittens or even pharaoh fortune, there would soon be complaints, like what is this junk

ohh wait there have been on the mobile version lol

[solemn kraken]

that's what half the mobile games are

nothing else, just that slop

[wide wraith]

but at least they are normally related to the main concept

what has kittens making jam got to do with Zombies

[solemn kraken]

if you consider there not being anything else, then yes, it is related to the main concept

where do you think Zombie jam comes from? tomatoes?

[wide wraith]

but it was said the game is going to be one for the PC/Mac, just imagine that you spent 3 grand on a high end gaming machine, 2grand on a chair, just to play a version of the old board game Mastermind (google it)

[solemn kraken]

okay, yes, that would suck

ah remember Mastermind played with pegs in a board (guess that counts as a board game... )

[wide wraith]

well it came in a cardboard box lol so yeah

but thats all the dumb kitten jam game is

[solemn kraken]

yups, play another game that has a fruit version tacked on 😛

the difference with other games: that slop isn't the focus of the main game 😦

[wide wraith]

exactly, so why is it here

[solemn kraken]

is it a focus though? ah haven't even looked at it since it was released

[wide wraith]

or even worse to be told your highend machine and probable 1G internet isnt good enough lol

[soft gulch]

Does anyone having issue with selecting another item than the first one, from a statue/frame/hq crate.

I feel that when I try to click the item, touch doesn't get registered and you have to touch again from selection being moved from 1st item to one which you want to pick.

[wide wraith]

I see there is an admission of sorts that the pet breeding is not popular and hasnt been taken up like the Devs thought it would lol

maybe the Devs should ask first if its what players actually want

[cursive vessel]

Where's that admission of sorts? 🤔

Not that I've looked 🤣

[wide wraith]

when i got kicked because of yet another update it was top right

beccas roadmap 34

[stable cosmos]

Can't see it. Did however go to feedback reporting and search for breeding. Nobody here has ever asked for it

[cursive vessel]

Ooh not seen that

[wide wraith]

not missed a lot, typical BS

[cursive vessel]

Breeding wasn't wanted but I think a lot are like, why would I spend so much money on a possibly better pet to make my older pets worse. Then have to spend to make my old pets better again 😅

It's insane

[stable cosmos]

Read it now. Its like... half an admission. They just offer more stuff for it. Not that its a 💩 idea in the first place

[wide wraith]

its weeks out of date as well

[stable cosmos]

We understand you hate this, so we'll give you extras so you can do more of it, we won't do anything about why you hate it though. Please insert money into the slot

[wide wraith]

Doomsday open matching, like why mention that as no one else will be joining it

and the bit about the icons is just plain rude to long time players

no mention of the un-needed change to battle reports

is that because we dont have a CM who gives two monkeys about the community

[tardy night]

Remember when everyone hated the behemoth, how expensive it was, how no one wanted it.

And they halved the rate, while giving a bug that made many max it out in one week. That they later retracted.

[wide wraith]

yup,

[tardy night]

It's a tactic they have used multiple times before

[wide wraith]

but to actually insult long-time players is a new one

[tardy night]

Of course we are gonna make sure people aren't taxed too much on Christmas

[wide wraith]

<@&628563208164081690> will there be an apology for the tone used in the latest Becca Roadmap

as the CM cant be bothered its no good asking her

[full rampart]

Hello Shadow

Which one exactly are you talking about?

[wide wraith]

this in particular
3. Icon Update Feedback:

We have noticed that some long-time players are having difficulty adjusting to the new icons.

To address this, we plan to run a survey in the Community to gather feedback on the new icons.

Depending on the results, we will consider offering an option to switch between the old and new icons to better suit different players' preferences.

but also the point about Pet breeding its not that its random chance, it the fact its NOT WANTED

[cursive vessel]

That and the survey is rubbish, they're not gonna care what anyone says, they'll do what they want anyway 🙄

[full rampart]

So the long time players part?

Sorry just trying to understand better what part of that bothers so i can report it

[wide wraith]

basically all of it. they are not listening to the community

[spark kindle]

They're just trying to engineer the concept that a handful of ancient players are complaining about the icons when in fact pretty much everyone hates them since in addition to being hideous, they're also impractical.

[cursive vessel]

And the added brightness still gives me a frigging headache!

[spark kindle]

This company is nothing but disrespectful to it's customers, such a shame

[cursive vessel]

Even with my phone brightness turned right down 😅

[full rampart]

Thank you for your answers

[wide wraith]

how can they listen to the community when there is no company representation in this Discord

there are 6 people employed by FunPlus in this channel and not 1 can be bothered to talk

[feral sinew]

Hi I am here

It is as what it says on the feedback, we will adjust the icons based on the survey results

Someone likes it, someone doesn't like it, it happens

[wide wraith]

there has been enough feedback , your surveys are always fixed

no one likes it

[cursive vessel]

The survey results aren't genuine player results though and you'll tweak it to how you want the results to look 😅

[wide wraith]

its the same as the battle reports, changed for no reason

[spark kindle]

Well, some people actually asked for that though

[wide wraith]

why they are useless now

[spark kindle]

This is why it's a bad idea to rush to feedback reporting without thinking it through, with all possible consequences

[full rampart]

Yes

This was asked

[spark kindle]

Icons though, were not asked.

[feral sinew]

Yes, many asked before

[stable cosmos]

The feedback from people has been almost entirely negative about the icons. The... in game surveys are implying theres a huge number who do,but if you look at the next step, there are more votes total for hating specifics

[wide wraith]

then offer a switch to change the reports back to how they were

[feral sinew]

Icons are the same. I understand you don't like it. But there are also nice feedback on it

[spark kindle]

Because in game surveys are manipulated by their own bots.

[stable cosmos]

Heck, i still want the battle reports to be readable the brown text on beige is horrendous

[feral sinew]

It's difficult for us to keep a balance in between. But we are trying

[spark kindle]

Anyway it's pointless, they won't change the icons as seen from the overall attitude

[feral sinew]

I will update you on how devs will adjust it

[wide wraith]

and where is the slowdown we were promised

[feral sinew]

TBH we did slowdown, for a month

[stable cosmos]

If you'd like weird positive, the change in purrfect jam for the colours was actually good. Adding the icons to the jars was a decent choice

[feral sinew]

😂

[cursive vessel]

What?? Really?? 🤣

[feral sinew]

Then we didn't, I know

[cursive vessel]

I don't think you did

[wide wraith]

for 1 month whoopee

[feral sinew]

Last summer yes

[stable cosmos]

There does need to be a little more control round the events. Currently its an utter mess

[feral sinew]

Then......yeah, my bad

[wide wraith]

but you have made up for it since

[cursive vessel]

Slowing down, means slowing down for a while, not 1 month, it's hardly noticeable 😅

[wide wraith]

10 events is NOT slowing down

[feral sinew]

No it is not

[wide wraith]

its actually speeding up

[stable cosmos]

We have jungle gems over and over feeding into the balloon thing. As an aside we currently have cat jam, mining, bounty blast, tycoon and pharoah.

[cursive vessel]

I logged in today and was like ooh look at all these mini events today 😂

[full rampart]

Jungle gems is the most liked event by all players

[stable cosmos]

No issue with JG. Its just it can't feed into 3 events at once

[cursive vessel]

To be honest, i don't really dislike any but not all at once

[tame oxide]

They are not the same
Ex: when training troops the icon showed how many are training and what lvl troops now only a timer and an icon that changes a little when claiming easy to forget to start a new batch as they nearly the same

[wide wraith]

i dont mind fishing lol as i can empty it in a day

[feral sinew]

Is it possible to play only what you want and ignore other 9 events?

[full rampart]

Isn’t it honestly made to help f2p players get rewards for events?

[stable cosmos]

It should be feeding into balloons, bounty blast or tycoon. But all 3 are running right now

[cursive vessel]

Or you could just not release 10 at once?????

[full rampart]

Is not disadvantaging anyone for not playing but is also a lot of good rewards for free

[feral sinew]

Well, we offer choices

[wide wraith]

the Devs seem to forget we are not in lockdown anymore

[tame oxide]

Not really when most events are behind a paywall

[stable cosmos]

Yeah. I'm ignoring most of them cos they cost money without a feeder event. But as theres no feeder most people just see greed and it probably turns your spenders off too

[full rampart]

Jungle gem and the fish I don’t spend on and get decent rewards

[cursive vessel]

Well, I ignore the paid for events but the free ones people have to do in order to get things to grow 😅

[stable cosmos]

Fish is by itself. It feeds nothing

[full rampart]

Yes but is a good event, good rewards, i spent 0 and i got a hq… or sometimes dino… + the bios in the idle rewards

[tame oxide]

Those are ok but there are other events that we as f2p can't play
Now is the dice event

[wide wraith]

and as for that Doomday icon, is should be in more events as its only a limited number in the stupid event anyway

[stable cosmos]

There are 3 events that need to be fed or they are simply p2w. As they've been partly f2p before, they look awful in comparison

[full rampart]

For this maybe we can bring suggestions to allow players to get dices from some way… this would be a great suggestion I haven’t made any moves there yet

[stable cosmos]

JG is meant to be for that. They could also use fishing, or mining. Or bring back other silly minigames that help

[wide wraith]

or they could just scrap the dice event

[full rampart]

Which ones? Now that Nanami is here a good moment to make feedbacks and suggestions… we won’t get 100% of what each different player want, but we can try to explain what people don’t like and what would want for this

[cursive vessel]

I kinda like that fishing is a stand alone event. You do it and you get to buy useful things from the store

[full rampart]

Nanami, do you think this will be possible in the future? The Future Tycoon has no way to get dices this round

[stable cosmos]

Tycoon
Bounty blast
Balloon

Those are all basically paid unless fed by another event

Previous iterations have had them covered by a wider event, or JG has allowed f2p to make minimal progress and not be shut out

As an addendum many spenders are skipping these too as the outlay to results is too large

[full rampart]

But that’s my point, they were able to get things for them for free… last time i bought 100 dices but i got the wings, the rest were all from jungle gems

[stable cosmos]

And is that happening now?

[cursive vessel]

You can't do tycoon or bounty blast this time around cause everything (mini events wise) is based around the balloon event

[full rampart]

No that’s, or not yet, for the Future Tycoon, is true i would have liked it to have dices also this round

But my point was, the mini events, even if they are many… are good as “free” items for players

Slowing them down will slow down the progress of f2p

[stable cosmos]

Removing bounty blast or tycoon at this point would have no effect on f2p

[full rampart]

Yes i was talking about jungle gems, fishes, mining, cat… these ones

[stable cosmos]

Im not talking about those ones.

[full rampart]

But these were the ones mentioned as being too many.. or that’s what I understood

[stable cosmos]

Purrfect jam isn't free either. Minor progress then it just stops

[normal peak]

100 die got you over 230 laps for the wings 🤨

[full rampart]

No 100 i bought beside jungle gems 😅

[cursive vessel]

I dunno, there's more mini events than actual game events these days 🤣
Which is a bit sad in reality

[normal peak]

That makes more sense lol

[stable cosmos]

Too many is referring to everything the list is silly. And too many are unplayable for the bulk of the playerbase which is par for the course, but not useful

[tame oxide]

Blissful bags is another p2w event it keeps coming back with nothing for f2p

[tardy night]

It depends a bit on 3 factors

1. How high the ceiling is for items available from the store for event
2. How much progress is possible paid vs free
3. How they price the item availability.

Based on those 3, some events adversely affect even the medium spenders in terms of widening gap.

[feral sinew]

For the future I can keep asking devs

[full rampart]

That’s what I said… that over the jungle gems i spent but not extreme amounts and got some wings… which honestly was a dream for me as mostly f2p

[feral sinew]

I hope so, really

[jovial vigil]

Even Jungle gem has become a bad event... Drop rates are constantly being nerfed, items are not changing and are not recyclable. What are we supposed to do with 40 Capricorn permits, 10 HQ boxes, heck there are people with too many ultra premium decorations

[stable cosmos]

They can release new events weekly but it should all be inclusive. Too much right now is basically saying to people "you can't play this"

[solemn kraken]

it's like any other drug: first sample is free 😛

[full rampart]

I understand there will be a chance to recycle the capricorn in the future, i will keep asking for that.
Also there were said that the hq crates will improve from time to time

[stable cosmos]

Jam definitely doesn't have the same hold on me as feeding frenzy, even though i know its rigged to hell

[solemn kraken]

recycle is a good idea, because, bizarre as it sounds, there are some people who haven't maxed it out (shocking, right?)

[full rampart]

Ok i understand this, this is a good feedback, I really get what you mean. All events should be playable by everyone at least to a certain extent

[solemn kraken]

some people have a higher tolerance to addiction

[full rampart]

Me neither i still need a i think 2-3

[stable cosmos]

Oh abyssal treasures waa also unplayable on last release too

[solemn kraken]

which one was the Abyss again?

[jovial vigil]

Still no time table for any of it, what am I supposed to do with decorations that are sold for 5000 diamonds a piece that I can't use?

[full rampart]

Yes i was sad we didnt have jungle gems on it… I honestly got some good things last time

[wide wraith]

to even stand a chance in the standard events I need to recycle, they need to update events to a state level

and lose Throwdown

[tardy night]

Abyssal and hidden treasure pretty much paid events. Should be relocated to packs.

[full rampart]

I will ask about this, for the capricorn statue

[solemn kraken]

what was that Event where you had teams of four or five fighting some mutant plant thing?

[tardy night]

Golgoroth

[solemn kraken]

not just the Cap Stat, they all should be recyclable... and bring in new rubbish

[patent olive]

Is CM nanami still around?

[tardy night]

[full rampart]

All as what else do you mean? Can you please give me names so i know what exactly to ask for?

[solemn kraken]

ah liked Golgoroth, that was one ah didn't mind playing (usually ended up top of the scoreboards simply for knowing what to do, not for being the strongest 😛 )

[full rampart]

Yes, is there anything you need from her?

[solemn kraken]

the other rewards, the other skin crates

[patent olive]

@feral sinew Is there a way to improve Hidden treasure or any events that discrimination against F2P?

[full rampart]

Ok so the jungle gems crates/statue

[patent olive]

Jungle gems lvl 11-14 should be Statue Custom crate, my Lan statue alreafy overflowing

[tardy night]

They will just ruin gems and sell it as optimization

[solemn kraken]

personally would rather add than replace in whatever event gives so many crate rewards people end up maxing them out

[full rampart]

I hope no, I really enjoy this event

[stable cosmos]

We don't need any changes to JG. None. Leave it

[full rampart]

What i think is we need to ask not to “chance” the events. But mostly tell them what we want

[solemn kraken]

ah don't mind most of those games: for me, it's just something quick ah can do and then ignore when ah run out of moves (which is usually real low levels)

[jovial vigil]

It's really not just Capricorn, I probably have over 5k$ worth of unrecyclable items, from decos to hq's to other skins. I know people who have 4 or 5 times more stuff sitting around, even if I was able to recycle it today, what the hell can I do with 150k skin tickets? Store refreshes too slow and often has irrelevant skins

[stable cosmos]

Just pick whatever it feeds into and run that. Don't run 5 others at the same time

[full rampart]

Like leave the jungle gem as it is, give option to recycle hq and hero statues

[stable cosmos]

Those are 2 very separate things

[jovial vigil]

Make the drop rate transparent, and notify whenever it changes

[wide wraith]

or give better multiple options

[solemn kraken]

yes, the Jungle itself is fine, POO, it's just the rewards that need tweaking

[stable cosmos]

They tweak any rewards and it'll be worse. Leave it alone

[limber gyro]

Pet breeding improvement...... 🤦‍♀️

[solemn kraken]

you want fifty dozen crates of the same Statue?

[patent olive]

Newest state not able to get Abyssal beat since statue in state 1331++
Don of the Pride statue in state 1350++
Sprite Season statue in state 1366++
I wish Lvl 20 seasonal statue crates have selection

[full rampart]

I kinda agree with Cyan… i would leave it as it is, and ask instead for an option to recycle items

[wide wraith]

pet breeding removal would be better

[limber gyro]

We don't want improvement for pet breeding... We want it gone 🤦‍♀️

[solemn kraken]

that's what ah was talking about regarding 'tweaking'

[patent olive]

Lvl 20 hqbonus crate there is 1 recycleable HQ skin (Christmas tree for 5k skin tickets)

[patent olive]

Yeah I want it removed, already non-sense

[stable cosmos]

The entire backpack should recycle. I dunno why its not a thing. Click a box to go into recycle mode and turn anything into rss or slin tickets

[full rampart]

Oh i didn’t know this could be good for me but I don’t have enough of the tree one yet

[patent olive]

Last time they added Recycle statue was Maddie Hero Statue

[stable cosmos]

They're not gonna give anything useful but it'd be enough to just biff some old stuff

[solemn kraken]

can agree with that option

[jovial vigil]

With Jungle gem 6 times in 4 weeks, just recycling the most basic HQ skins yields 30k skin tickets, which is enough to clear the skin store.

[tawny hedge]

Is it just me that finds the Balloon Odyssey Pass so difficult to complete the solo rewards?

[solemn kraken]

if you are not careful, they will recycle everything at the end of every event in RSS (single RSS, no matter how many, not a 1-1 trade)

[full rampart]

No, i feel the same, not sure if i do something wrong tho

[jovial vigil]

I think it's gated by almost daily 10k top up points

[patent olive]

Before Lunar New Year jungle gems, there is recycleable HQ skin too, 2021 Anniversary HQ skin for 2,5k Skin tickets

[full rampart]

So just to clarify would everyone be happy with :

1. not touching jungle gems.
2. Adding an option to recycle maxed statues and HQs?

[jovial vigil]

My point is, with the current skin store layout recycling for skin tickets is irrelevant

[jovial vigil]

1. Just update the skin/decorations or better, switch them to generic boxes with multiple choices

[full rampart]

So more skins in the skin store monthly

[jovial vigil]

Or more frequent updates

[stable cosmos]

Don't mention JG at all. Jesus."provide a global option to recycle backpack items"

[patent olive]

Also for Fishing challenge, for 32k azure shells free 20k skin tickets (exchange christmas tree hq 4x)

[full rampart]

That’s what I meant

[jovial vigil]

No idea why anyone would farm skin tickets. They are literally useless, I can't use them all so they just pile up

[patent olive]

My state has Sakura HQ skin, it doesnt available since Q2 2024 😦

In festive bazaar

[stable cosmos]

Don't ever expect anything good via recycling... we'd all like to recycle expensive stuff into option crates or something, ain't happening

If i could turn my doubled frames into frame crates to pick a new one, sure, that'd be amazing. But it will also never happen.

[full rampart]

Observation:
Players are accumulating too many statues/HQs that are already maxed and have no use.

Consequences:
They are not useful for anything just sitting in the backpack

Suggested solution:
Bring an opportunity to recycle things you have in excess in the backpack.

What do you guys think about this?

I killed the chat

[cursive vessel]

I'd say it's good but I don't have too many of any so it's irrelevant to me 🤣 🤣

[patent olive]

Its good

[jovial vigil]

It's good, the main issue here is that it was already addressed and we were promised an improved recycling center. I think we are mainly looking for a time table here

[stable cosmos]

@feral sinew thank you for coming to speak with us briefly. Please do make time to do so more often. Its appreciated even if we all get very annoyed

[stable anvil]

I would say it needs to be more general. Because when the ranking event that gave Gold frags for overall rewards were given, we had the ability to recycle blue and purple hero frags. Dev promised they will improve the recycling feature in a much later date which was more than 2 years ago and its long overdue. Just wished i hadthe system mail that they sent for this

[full rampart]

So make it more general

[stable anvil]

I believe cyan made a accurate statement that the whole backpack and all contents should be available for recycling. We have so much outdated junk in their or junk not usable anymore that its just staggering

[wide wraith]

cant they change all the gold frags into a general use capsule

[stable anvil]

Blue and purple heroes maxed within the first year, yet we are getting those frags and have no open to recycle specific blue/purple hero frags. Some of us have slot token from the previous slot machine and thats useless because devs decided to make a whole new currency and not give us the option to recycle them 1:1 for the new currency.

t.a essense epic are all in our bag and yet not recyclable seeing that now we have S series t.a and they use reforge essense so their is another item cluttered in our bag waiting to be recycled

Junk

[full rampart]

Observation:
Players are accumulating too many things that have no use.

Consequences:
They are not useful for anything just sitting in the backpack

Suggested solution:
Bring an opportunity to recycle all things you have in excess or you don’t need in the backpack.
Give fair exchange rate for these items, either with other items or with skin tickets

Better?

[wide wraith]

I even have some dice that i cant use

[spark kindle]

If you don't be specific about it they will get recycled to rss crates. Ask for exchanging for event items or at least skin tickets

[stable anvil]

Agreed that the exchange is fair and reasonable

Or within that range

[stable cosmos]

Has to be generic stuff sadly. Theyre never giving anything actually useful here so rss or skin tickets is probably the limit

Generic 1 minute speedups would be nice though

[stable anvil]

Thats better then rss crates for all those hero frags and skin tickets

[full rampart]

@spark kindle can you check this please ?

[spark kindle]

Yes this sounds much better than the previous

But still they will either ignore or give rss crates 😂

I appreciate the effort though ☺️

[feral sinew]

I will comeback tomorrow

I am a bit blunt and sorry for that

I don't want to lie 😭

[vale yoke]

NANAMI!!!

[fleet idol]

Is there any plan to update the purrfect jam claim to 10 like you can with the eggs per day

[normal peak]

Purple hero frags and rss crates aren’t good enough trade in value? 😂😂

[charred swift]

You could have a brass band, jugglers and a circus turn up at my house and the ‘victories’ for selecting the correct jam jar won’t be in any way satisfying. Pretty sure we don’t need any more animations in these events either unless we can toggle them off. Maybe improving the rewards will help with the excitement

[wet ermine]

I wish they would up the amount as well. They really do come in handy with giving extra tokens. I could submit as feedback if you’d like?

[digital glacier]

Purple fish are not that rare
Please for the love of God

1. Add this popup for gold fish
2. Allow this popup for purple fish to be dismissed

^ that won't take but 5 minutes to find code, edit for dismiss checkbox, copy code, edit code for gold fish paste code.
After you do steps 1 & 2
Step 3.
Auto search for high quality fish.

• search for a specific fish
• search for a specific quality of fish
• search one specific location, all locations
• use sonar tokens, bio (if both checked, use sonar tickets first, just like how it currently is in the game)

Just like how genetic recombination automatically does it for you until you get a high stat or skill. This needs to be a thing.

• basically it's like combining the tempest arms filter with genetic recombination.

it's probably too complex for devs and they don't have the skills required to make it functional

I absolutely fishing, but it is probably the most time consuming event we have. I'll sacrifice other events for fishing if I have to. But I wish I didn't have to make that choice if the time came to it.

^ can someone make that pretty for feedback report 🤷

[solid hamlet]

Gotcha

[spark kindle]

[normal peak]

[lavish heron]

@soft gulch have a look. I ain’t even gonna say anything or act bothered… I’ll just laugh. This is my alt btw

[storm solstice]

[digital glacier]

MK2 80% I bet did a ton of the heavy hitting

[lavish heron]

That’s me

I did the 80%🤣🤣 but still the one who lost.

I mean idc tho. It’s my alt and I have given up on this rubbish

[storm solstice]

Troop level of yours and his?
P12 vs P15?

TA skills on each side?

Heroes on each side?

[lavish heron]

Dunno but that wouldn’t be a reason. The difference is stats is way too much and troop level is of the most insignificant thing in the game… but I will show you the TA. It’s just funny tbh

Also, the strength is too great that even if I use gen 19 all yellow and he uses Gen 20 all berserk, I’d win… he has 5 statues and I have about 3 times that.

[tardy night]

10>8

Nothing else matters.

[lavish heron]

Here are the TA you asked for @storm solstice

🤣🤣🤣

This game rolls a dice when we fight. Let’s all enjoy it.

[digital glacier]

You did 80%
No. That's not what that number means.

Your bp vs their bp for behemoth power
Yours is 80% more bp.

Roughly every frag and every battery used is very close to the same average bp per item.
So 80% is a chunk stronger. Unless you're comparing a just located to yours 😂
BP is not strength

1m bp in blue & orange is not the same strength as 1m bp in purple

[storm solstice]

Right side - full resilience hero set.
Left side - chaos of heroes 😅

[lavish heron]

Where did you get this theory?? That percentage is a calculation of the behe power compared to his. But I’m on the positive side no matter how you look at it…

Anyway, I didn’t post that to complain or get an explanation, I sent it to @soft gulch as he understands.

[digital glacier]

It's not a theory 🤣

[lavish heron]

As I once said, there will always be an excuse as to why someone lost if people want to make one. Sometimes with my main I win people with styles(when I’m too lazy to select). Styles come to play when stats are close not when you’re miles apart.

[digital glacier]

Style with TA makes a big difference.

[tardy night]

Told you.

10>8.

Nothing else matters

[lavish heron]

Why didn’t I lose this?? This is my main

[digital glacier]

Red with S1 hitting yellow with g3
Will give you very VERY different result with identical ta stats and skills
Red with G3 vs yellow with s1

[storm solstice]

Nah, we all have no clue.

[digital glacier]

Apparently he is smarter than all 3 of us knowledge people 😆

[cursive vessel]

I stay out of apex conversations cause I don't understand it 🤣

If i lose i lose😂

[lavish heron]

As I said, I didn’t post for you guys. You will make excuses and I’m not bothered. I tagged someone who will understand and except he says differently.
Cause according to you guys, I can beat soth if he uses wrong hero setup and wrong TA

[lavish heron]

That’s what I’m saying. That event is a joke but some people are so smart that they have analyzed the game 🤣🤣

[cursive vessel]

There will be reasons I lose but I don't know what they are 🤣

And I'm fine with that

[solemn kraken]

being blunt is usually required for this lot, no need to apologize 😛

[lavish heron]

If soth uses Gen 19 wrong setup with wrong TA and no aircraft and even only one behe, my butt will still be kicked

[cursive vessel]

Obviously, cause he's a whale 🤣

[digital glacier]

Some people have a knack for geography, some have a knack at math.
Some have a knack for critical thinking.
Some don't have to do much effort to analyze the game to understand some things. Others do and still don't come close to those who it comes naturally for.

[tardy night]

He thinks he's equal to soth with just 3 factors in his favour.

Must be one of them 2.4k morale whales

[storm solstice]

let me know the pills or herbs you are taking. Just to avoid for a lifetime.

[digital glacier]

You know what's funny when people crop out the names like they did.
Crops out the names...
Leaves the coordinates 😆

[solemn kraken]

quality does not equal rarity, rarity does not equal quality

people don't stay in one place

[lavish heron]

My point is not about him being a whale. My point is strength. He is a whale to me and you might be a whale to someone else… I’m talking about strength.

[lavish heron]

No problem. As I said, it wasn’t for you guys who are the report analyst of sos

[cursive vessel]

Not getting in to the whole whale thing here but you brought up soth, soth could probably flatten you without behes and with half a march 🤣
If you wanna do comparisons, make it at least realistic

[lavish heron]

How does this make sense to you?? Anyway, wasn’t for you so all good

[lavish heron]

That’s my point.

[wide wraith]

the report as it was changed (supposingly by popular request) doesnt give enough information to say why, for example relative stat strength, genes,behemoths, pets, companions, planes, tanks, and even the spacestation all play a part

[woven spire]

this way, nothing is valid

[lavish heron]

I can share with you privately if you want but with my stats, it’s obvious I am way ahead and I am cause I checked it. The only thing he tried in were pets(purple) and we all know how useless those are but for companion, skills, statues, aircraft etc, it’s not even comparable

[woven spire]

It really doesnt matter what you show. even a gap of 500% stats probally wont save you with the formation of chaos

[lavish heron]

So in other words, I could beat a whale who uses wrong formation??

That’s absurd

[woven spire]

left won easily

1.7mil left

[woven spire]

yes and its not. only way some can beat rich people

By making sense

[tardy night]

What does a maxed person have over you, in your opinion.

[lavish heron]

Everything… behe, aircraft, statues, TA etc

[wide wraith]

styles are a waste of time unless we are told exactly what it does to a march

[woven spire]

and all is connected to.. troops and heroes

Maybe suprising, but all is connected to eachother in some way

messing up your basic, is a auto gg in most cases (not all)

[lavish heron]

See what I mean… everyone has their own take. The earlier sos analyst who were deciphering the report and giving their unpopular opinion believed in hero styles but you say differently.

[wide wraith]

as an example we were told blue beats red red beats yellow etc but how and what does it do to the stats for example an all yellow march loses to an weaker (stats) all red march, the question is why

[lavish heron]

That’s why I said, it’s a roll of dice in some events

[woven spire]

yellow beats control cause survival rate and abilities like ignoring burn damage (tempest) + silence immune etc

[wide wraith]

to be honest there is not enough information as to what it does to a march

[lavish heron]

Except you’re a whale, you get whatever.

[woven spire]

Red beats Yellow because damage. ignoring damage reduction etcetc

[lavish heron]

I agree but this does not work in all cases and that’s what he is saying.

[woven spire]

Oh it does, unless the stat gap is aloooooot

[wide wraith]

yellow are healers so in theory should last longer in a fight

[woven spire]

If you make the formation of chaos.. you dont even have syhnc in your heroes, which means no full potentional

[woven spire]

As they do

[wide wraith]

but red will beat them

[woven spire]

Left is red

But this was a way to big stat gap

So his yellow won

Look how long yellow managed to survive

And win

[storm solstice]

Bcs Red ignores damage reduction, is heavy damage dealer style.

If you run yellow vs yellow - you will partially see fights lasting 60 rounds +-

red vs red will never last that long; nor blue vs blue.

[woven spire]

trying find yellow vs yellow and red vs red

red

Red survives at best 22 rounds

didnt see much longer

[wide wraith]

so does that mean its better to have a mixed march

[woven spire]

but they not meant to survive.. just kill before they die

[woven spire]

No, cause then half skills are not full potentional

Only few i remeber that worked, were yamira in berserk march and Chuckon in control march

yellow vs yellow

[woven spire]

cant really find a fair battle

[wide wraith]

my lead march is all yellow I also have an all red and all blue but sometimes it feels like i should mix them to win

[woven spire]

Well tempest works too

if you got gen 3/2

Red as of today, is your safest bet

[wide wraith]

i know in rex rallies my lead is best, with the bezerk down quite a few points

[storm solstice]

Dino: Berserk.
But also there´s no 1 fits all events march.

Same with blue/Control - if you use Christopher you are down in Inf Stats vs Ava. But Ava triggers Rising Valors to the insanity. If you go with Blue/Control - use Ava till your opponents adds all over RVs and change to Christopher - he does not set all oppponents on fire like Ava so they are not that much triggered.

[wide wraith]

maybe that just down to the gens but its not easy to analyse and thats a question i am often asked why did i win/lose

[lavish heron]

Which is a point as to what I have been saying

[wide wraith]

and the new reports just make it harder

[storm solstice]

Your stat gap is not as huge as you think off. 😅

[formal owl]

Since i am f2p can't afford those of tempest skills so i cant play with strategy

[wide wraith]

you can but have to sacrifice other things

for example morale, i do that on my alt

[storm solstice]

as said - there´s not 1 fits all option.
F2P do not have the options as RLs have on higher level, but they also face other opponents.
A f2p won´t beat a heavy spender (general statement)

[wide wraith]

my f2p p15 has a different role to my p15 RL

[formal owl]

At least devs please could you make a system that can't easily burn settlements?

[solemn kraken]

bait? 😛

[storm solstice]

i´m not a dev 😅
But doubt that this will come.

[wide wraith]

bait or joiners to keep the average troop spec up

[formal owl]

Now the stats really become hyperinflation, imagine now rally leader can burn another rally leader, and now they introduced overpowered stats final dmg

I bet even if you have 100B troops are not enough to protect yourself