📋︱feedback-discussion

[woven spire]

carrier has nothing

so overall its super pointless

[sweet raptor]

[woven spire]

and as you see its called the same

[wide wraith]

but thats the exact reason for a PTR server , not to give out free diamonds so that those on it can stream the latest con

[cursive vessel]

What is with the ridiculous colouring and lack of centralising things 😂 😂 😂

[vale yoke]

That is so bad

[sweet raptor]

I can agree on that

[vale yoke]

My eyes are so angry

[sweet raptor]

also on the design issue at hand

[vale yoke]

It doesn't go away if you blink, why isn't going away? I'm blinking!!

[woven spire]

if all worked,... then old plane has better amplification bonus then carrier

lol

[vale yoke]

The villain in me is giggling because what a grift

I mean gift

[wide wraith]

they have no idea what they are doing thats why

[vale yoke]

Mmhmm

[woven spire]

Ye, people pay tons to not have it working

Quite dumb

Ptr... ye they put in and copy the bugs in live

and if people notice they fix at some point

[wide wraith]

maybe the Devs are not so stupid, they are laughing all the way to the Lambo showroom

[woven spire]

i would call it unfair

Or scam in extremer sense

[wide wraith]

nothing is fair in this game

[sweet raptor]

just like life

[vale yoke]

Tbh I can't tell if that's actually a bug or if it's just bad design itself. I think the latter.

In which case, maybe do a Gameplay or QoL report about not only the visual ugliness but also your technical concerns, because I'm not super smart but .. something is off, here

I was gonna say UI but it's less about the interface and more about the feature itself not playing nicely with the rest of the game or the eyeballs of players.

[short patio]

whats your spacecraft rating?

[cursive vessel]

A lot of things don't play mice with our eyeballs these days, new icons included 😅

[woven spire]

50k i think

[vale yoke]

I'm worried I may be getting used to them...

[cursive vessel]

Mice, i mean nice 😂

[woven spire]

46k

[vale yoke]

Close enough

[woven spire]

yup🤣

Fighting EOP on thursday DD.. brutal group honestly

Quite a few strong once

But better then 1 like vip and gg

[vale yoke]

I'm too smol for DD so I do what I do with most sports and tournaments - "I'm just here for the snacks"

"go team... Whoever wins! I knew you could do it... You"

[short patio]

met someone with 80k

they changed battle report layout again.. dont know yet if its good or bad..

[wide wraith]

the new battle report sucks, its impossible to read and get useful information from

[woven spire]

who?

also, anyone immortal just have their state?

[wide wraith]

its like the desciption of events from the Devs, totally useless

to conclude both arena events are useless to get information from, Battle report is useless, new event is useless ,vote on SR incorrectly handled, can the Devs get anything right or are they still hungover from LNY

the honor store is the usless one scrap that one

[cursive vessel]

Does anything actually make you happy with this game?

[wide wraith]

lately not a lot, RR,AH used too but the Devs even screwed them up

[wide wraith]

funny how others complain about the same things but you dont ask them the same do you ?

[cursive vessel]

I complain about them too but i was just wondering 😂

[woven spire]

i enjoy events still

Espicially last DD

[wide wraith]

i was put off DD during the very first one when they sent out an in-game mail saying it was canceled then said the system decided to send it out

[cursive vessel]

We lost our DD fun race on Sunday but to be honest I've not kept up with how anyone is doing this time around
I do enjoy events though, not all of them but you can't like everything

[woven spire]

dont remeber

[woven spire]

mmhm unlucky

[wide wraith]

they seem to think that everyone wants to watch a DD fight and yet i saw comments here yesterday that they were boring to watch

[woven spire]

not last one

Last one was unfair and boring

We played half reserves and tried not burn them

[cursive vessel]

Most of them are cause they're one sided matches 🤷‍♀️

[woven spire]

So we could even get points

[storm solstice]

That was damn ouchie

That's from a solo.

[woven spire]

lol

from 7 they start to stack and still didnt look good

[wide wraith]

take yesterday we had RR, not enough people wanted to play DD because of the terrible matching/times, stare 759 v State 27 no account of the extra time with heroes or to build up troop number, or KOH 30 v 26 v 9 what enjoyment is there to be had in no win matches

[vale yoke]

We just try to be as annoying as possible and laugh a bunch and just be good sports when we are up against stacked odds like that, which helps with networking and forming cross-state friendships.
But as events, the way they're designed and with the ridiculous matching? Def not having fun with it.

[wide wraith]

even the small group we have on voice are getting disheartened

and we used to have fun

[vale yoke]

It's pretty bad, but I take a lot of these features and events in game as separate to the actual game because they're just weird bolt ons or sad copies of the good events they used to be/are based on.
I don't feel like I'm playing one singular title when I log into SoS; I feel like I'm playing several different titles and SoS is just the platform for them.

[wide wraith]

take the new skin, Lord of shadows, i wish it was static rather than turn into the main protagonist from the film Legend

[vale yoke]

And tbh more and more often, I'm outright telling my players they don't have to log in or stay logged in for things. Either because minimum participation gets a reward, or because it's just not that important to interrupt their lives for a game that doesn't even know it's a game.

Half the time, it's not "let's try to win", it's "since we're clearly going to lose, let's do it in new and interesting ways"

Since we're feeding the people bigger than us anyway, we may as well give them dinner and a show, right?

[wide wraith]

part of the things i used to like was deciphering battle reports to work out plans to counter (strategy) with these new reports you cant do that as the information is useless

[vale yoke]

I tried looking through them yesterday and got a headache, but to be fair, Raid was bad. Our opponents played a good game, but the matching was not ideal. Then looking through the reports was like asking for eye strain.

[wide wraith]

arena is useless because even if you try to use counter styles you cant because people dont know how to use or dont care

[cursive vessel]

We had a koth match once, with two farm accounts (both under hq30) against a full 30 p15 alliance (and the other team was a no show i think) 🤣

I came 1st though, cause i died, a lot 😂 😂

[vale yoke]

It astounds me still to come up against people not using counter style, but I just match the energy when I can, you know?

[vale yoke]

I love those! Lol

[wide wraith]

tried that, was stronger and still lost, so i give up now, so i just go for the 3 wins

[vale yoke]

When I see someone with only one person, I try to be nicer than usual tbh. Like here dude, have some of your land, and here's a nice building. Just keep sending guys to fight and we'll keep your points rising.

It's weird when my alliance is the whale in a matching. Like ... That's just mean.

[cursive vessel]

Yeah, it doesn't hurt to be nice to people, especially when you know they're not gonna win

[wide wraith]

RR is now, a case of if we have troops left its a bag one

[vale yoke]

Show of hands if you've been victimized by event matchmaking

[wide wraith]

bad one i mean

🙌

[vale yoke]

We can have a sense of humor about it mostly but it stings so bad. Really makes you wonder why you bother. And that isn't a criticism on the teams we get matched with at all, because they're also likely to have been in our shoes, but that's not a comfort.

[wide wraith]

but even they dont like the matching

[vale yoke]

It just makes it so either people justify feeding into it, or lose interest entirely. No one wants to be a part of the problem, but the only people who can give the solution are sort of pitting us against each other in that sense too.
If the small guys like my team complain, sometimes we're seen as whiny or jealous or unreasonable. If the big guys complain, they're sometimes automatically disregarded as whales.

Matching is horrible. Most of the players doing these events either know this, or are quickly learning this. That's it. That's all.

[wide wraith]

the problem is matching is ignored because no paid memeber of FP plays the game or is willing to feedback that events are dying

[solemn kraken]

how would you suggest they fix the matching?

[wide wraith]

matching by age/ number registered/ power

number registered is a key factor

[cloud ridge]

Stop releasing new dumb stuff would also help matchmaking

[cursive vessel]

Not all old states are strong though, so you could be matched against an old state and still have a decent match

[wide wraith]

thats why you need all 3

[cursive vessel]

But yeah, the major issue is all the stupid stuff they keep releasing

[wide wraith]

age is only there because of the number of troops

[cursive vessel]

I moved from a late 800 state to a late 600 state and it's ridiculously obvious in some cases that I'm not from that state originally 😅

Troops and heroes alike

[wide wraith]

in KoH its not an issue

[elfin pasture]

In koth we are facing very weak alliances that makes it soo boring to play 😅 the very opposite in DD, very overpowered that we get zeroed immediately

[wide wraith]

the Devs base on Alliance power which isnt really a reliable factor

if an alliances top 4 or 5 cant/wont play then it has to be on those registered

[elfin pasture]

Probably same as RR raidscore

[cloud ferry]

Unfair matchmaking can be frustrating, but there’s always room for improvement. How about submitting feedback to help make the game better for everyone?

[wide wraith]

if that were the case it wouldnt need to be touched in any way

because we have and they either ignore it or butcher what we ask for

they almost got it right in the first DD but again because of timimng issues people lost interest and didnt want to play

[tardy night]

[vale yoke]

coughs on coffee

[cloud ferry]

All feedback has been submitted to the developers, and every suggestion has been acknowledged. However, the decision on what to implement or postpone ultimately rests with the development team. May I assist you by submitting the feedback on your behalf?

[dim marlin]

Your idea is good. Have You created any feedback regarding it yet? If not i can help you in making one good feedback

[tardy night]

Matchmaking feedback in a nutshell gonna be the same

33 downvotes winning against 518 upvotes there

It's one of those feedbacks which are a zero sum game for some folks.

[wide wraith]

and therein lies the issue, we come up with the ideas but the Devs ignore them

[tardy night]

They hardly ignored that one. You might be seeing the rest of it implemented verbatim in the next transfer.

Apart from the one they did spell out. Despite the vast unpopularity. Cuz some dumb wallet wanted it

Current matchmaking has a clear winner of the 1%

[cloud ferry]

From what I understand, the development team reviews all feedback, but not every suggestion can be implemented right away. Their decisions likely depend on factors like feasibility, priority, and overall game balance. While not every idea may be acted upon, it seems that all feedback is at least acknowledged.

[tardy night]

[wide wraith]

thats just it not all feedback is acknowledged only the most popular ones are

[solemn kraken]

what? you saying some feedback might be ignored? how DARE they!

[vale yoke]

@mighty gorge I'm choking on irony

[wide wraith]

ok explain this one, we asked them to slow down on releasing new stuff includung events, even Maddie agreed they should slow down but what happened, the Devs sped up with more and more events

[tardy night]

Just like when lans said no spending on Christmas eyy

[solemn kraken]

so, what you are wanting, is for every feedback to be listened to and carried out within one month?

[wide wraith]

lans best one was sayinmg their was no gap between spenders and f2p

[cursive vessel]

They don't know the meaning of slowing down..

[solemn kraken]

and just because Maddie said they should slow done, no one actually said they would slow down

[cloud ferry]

It’s understandable to feel frustrated when feedback doesn’t seem to lead to the expected changes. While we don’t have control over the developers' decisions, continuing to share feedback may still help influence future adjustments.

[wide wraith]

but when even the CEO of Business Operations at FP says they will slow down on new things this year, slowing down wouldnt hurt

[charred swift]

Good for business giving out sugar

[wide wraith]

for example why this new Eternal Devotion event right after the old one closed, they could have waited a few weeks

[vale yoke]

At least it's not roses

[wide wraith]

well thats a plus I guess

they will probably be in july again

[vale yoke]

That's what I told myself. And also "ooh pretty" because I do high-key like the skins 🥴😮‍💨

Not enough to buy them tho

[cloud ferry]

Since it’s a Valentine’s event, the timing was likely planned to match the season.

[cursive vessel]

Shame most of the events they run these days are locked behind paywalls

[wide wraith]

but not everyone is into Valentines, and why should we have it shoved down out throats

[cursive vessel]

Not everyone does Christmas or Chinese new year but we get them too. Same thing really

Plus, money 😂

[wide wraith]

that was their argument when CC was on christmas day a few years ago

[tardy night]

The shills are coming. The shills are coming

[solemn kraken]

yeah, ah'm a shill who is still only HQ13 and using Lucky in Main March

[wide wraith]

and they still didnt learn

[solemn kraken]

oh wait, ah'm actually a Super Whale Dev in disguise

ooo, probably shouldn't have said that

[vale yoke]

[tardy night]

Super whale would require a dev to spend money

Are we saying devs in God mode spend money heh

[wide wraith]

the new Lod of Shadows is an Elf who turns into Tim Curry's character from Legend

[vale yoke]

Okay but hear me out ... Wait, this is definitely the wrong venue for that sort of conversation.

[twin grotto]

Let's not have another collab. I need my remaining kidney

[vale yoke]

Pfft

[twin grotto]

[cloud ferry]

You still have them? Share it to me

[vale yoke]

Are we 3D printing organs yet?

Asking for a friend

[twin grotto]

If I had a 3D printer I'd print another kidney and couple of HQs

[odd umbra]

Honor store is not free either - you need to fight for it and the pearls you get for free during Events only by doing the Event

[cloud ferry]

Asking for a friend too

[wide wraith]

well actually it has been trialed just not very successfully yet

[vale yoke]

This is good to know, hopefully the tech is perfected because on a more serious note, that could be life-changing for so many.

[twin grotto]

3D Printing HQ sounds fun to have in game just saying, i'd finish up my collections But yes, game aside, that would be a brilliant idea for irl so I agree

[cloud ferry]

If I have a 3D printed organ, and I get "Are you human?" question, what should I say?

[twin grotto]

Click the trees duh, that's the normal question

#🧟︱general looks dead, imma head there

[wide wraith]

without going into the gory details yeah you could say you are

[tardy night]

Think they do the heart pumps with them and prosthetic limbs

[cloud ferry]

Yep. Lets go to #🧟︱general and have a party there

[wide wraith]

nah lol

[tardy night]

Hey look we are being ddred by the new mods

[twin grotto]

Don't boolie the smol moddie. Let's be nice

I'll dance for you

[solemn kraken]

thought you said not to boolie...

[mighty gorge]

No comment 🤣

I think i've lost count in the last four years of the amount of times its been attempted to move me to general 😛

[feral heath]

Ceeeeeeeeeerb

[mighty gorge]

Aura

Aura

AURA!

[feral heath]

Do you follow me there

[mighty gorge]

[feral heath]

How are you wonderful people - anything interesting happened in the game? I didnt have time to log in yet today - work, work, work

[mighty gorge]

I just wander from room to room aimlessly

[wide wraith]

why do some people think this is a place to pick people up, someone from this channel just asked me for a picture, its Valentines not Halloween

[feral heath]

I would never pick someone up, Im not that strong

[mighty gorge]

Well, hello, Shadow. Is that some biocaps in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?

[feral heath]

I ran out of biocaps when the genskip was there

Rays took it all from me

[twin grotto]

On a good monday I can pick a small pebble

[wide wraith]

i am too old for all this romantic junk

[solemn kraken]

better watch out for a large angry bam-bam

[twin grotto]

NOT THE BAM BAM

[feral heath]

So you are a ghost ?

[twin grotto]

I wish I was a ghost smh

[wide wraith]

did someone say ghost, now your talking perks up and looks for my emf meter

[mighty gorge]

I am a figment of your imagination. I'm here in body, but not in mind!

[twin grotto]

Caspar says hi

[feral heath]

Thats me everyday

[patent olive]

Really downvote wont count?

[feral heath]

They should count, but unfortunately we cannot do more than forward the suggestions. What is done out of it we cannot decide, no matter how much we wish to.

[tardy night]

Depends on the metric they choose for evaluation of any opinion presented here.

If retention of the mil$ folks is a metric, the 99% downvotes don't count.

[feral heath]

Both is forwarded. Up and downvotes thats what I can tell you ❤️

[woven spire]

Its best to not vote

If you dont agree

But think that wasnt the reason

[wide wraith]

wait so if all feedback is forwarded, whats the point of the voting??

[feral heath]

But if we dont vote or forward suggestions we will have no chance at all that something changes. I know its frustrating if things dont get changed how the majority of the player base wants it. But Im still all for trying.

[woven spire]

90 days is rip. Have to zer9 quitters or force them to transfer or well mstchmaking

[feral heath]

Cause we forward the vote counts. Thats why voting is important ❤️

[woven spire]

Just be a spender. Big one. It will change

I gave 1 suggestion once

Changed next day

Wont say what

😂

[tardy night]

Anjelica nerf?

[woven spire]

Was benefical for them and smaller whales lets say

😂

[patent olive]

DYZ Ruby

[feral heath]

Im just a dolphin, so I dont have that option. But for us here it doesnt matter if anyone spends or not. We listen to everyone and forward anything that is suggested. Unfortunately we dont have an impact on what is actually implimented.

[woven spire]

Nah was against that

I dont agree with making people spend and nerf/buff

Nerf and buffs are for things that sont require money. Balancing should happening with proper testing in sos

[patent olive]

1. Leading states are too many (more than 28 now)
2. It still can recycle Tempest arms/Energy Conversal Gems
3. Auction always closed for 10 days (except newest state Gen 4-5 only selected state no entier Gen 4-5 states)
4. Pets added migration rating when wearing it, Tanks wont count
5. Not sure I dont have any strong OP heroes
6. Devs approved 😡 thanks disgrace devs, it will more messed up
7. Not sure for it
8. It still keep 1,1b transfer rating
9. It still 26% every I research

[woven spire]

I have no issues with gems tempest recycle

Its a huge price to pay

Fine by me 😂

[tardy night]

Think some don't pay the price really. Transfer to farms around 50% of inventory

[woven spire]

All gems i have now took me since they out. So recycle them is literally a death sentence. I rather transfer out then do that

[tardy night]

Tempest at least

[woven spire]

So for people do it.. they insane

[woven spire]

Still a big price to pay honestly

1 of my pieces

Think i am going to recycle this?😂😂

[dim marlin]

[woven spire]

Other one

[dim marlin]

Awsome arms

[wide wraith]

I have no plans to transfer from my main state so dont really care, one of my alts i want to transfer so just hold back on doing too much

[patent olive]

T e a c h, m e

I only have toxic surge full health 😭😭😭

[woven spire]

Thanks, should see hunter and rider😂 really not crazy to recycle so some whale can join. I help by transfering 😂

[tardy night]

Looks bad, you should give it to us small folks. Vigilant mindset is better skills

[sweet raptor]

true

[patent olive]

Guess what state is?

[woven spire]

Only 8k? Lol

Think people realized to many marks are bad

Always funny to see people rocking 6 furies and losing😂

[wide wraith]

i havent even registered for the auctions

didnt agree with the TOS so said no

[patent olive]

🤣

[patent olive]

Yeah, My clue is newest state

I always lose on Fury and I got it 3 days ago, but stats from Gen 9-12 🥲

[soft gulch]

But it's still apple and oranges, I had 2m honor when the store rolled out, never had more than 15k pearls.

[woven spire]

Ohhh. We dont even have furies market

And even heal 3 goes for 39k for some reason

[odd umbra]

I never had so much

Always empty

[patent olive]

I placed MOS IV perfect stats that I created in Gen 11 in Auction for 2,25k, and It sold over 10k😅

[soft gulch]

I have been saving older currencies to buy the Skin stuff. Buggers put it on Koth wins, so skrew that now

[odd umbra]

I exchanged as well but that was not such much because I used this

[wide wraith]

my best 2 bits of TA is only in 2nd march at the moment because they are for Berserk heros 😔

[woven spire]

Lower stats?

People probally think forward.. all useless if in our bracket

[patent olive]

Of course

Same bracket

[soft gulch]

Yeah well. I have been doing it now more often, 12 koth wins are like 6 months

[woven spire]

We got 4 or 5 now but way to much

[soft gulch]

Mark of Strength is deadly, good choice.

[soft gulch]

I have moved state in between so I don't know if old wins are counted

[wide wraith]

where does it tell you how many wins you have

[lost jungle]

In the honor store you will find a question mark at the top left , it tells you how many wins you have

[wide wraith]

so no old wins dont count

[woven spire]

No idea tbh

Good question

[woven spire]

Nop

They need reduce number. 12 is easily a year for the average alliance

[lost jungle]

Yes , I think so
When I transferred my count zeroed

[woven spire]

Lmao

So its personal

But also alliance bound

[soft gulch]

Mother....of dawg. 3-4.wins gone lol

[lost jungle]

I can help you with feedback if you want

[wide wraith]

with the matching my alliance has had lately, will never get 12 wins

[woven spire]

Think was already made

[wide wraith]

i suggested either a teired system or just a straight reduction

[soft gulch]

If you write a feedback please mention to count individual wins, whatever nb that may be.
State merge and transfer shouldn't reset.

[lost jungle]

Sorry about this , when I counted again I found I had my old wins so it's individual wins

[woven spire]

Counted?

You pressed the question mark?

Its to much anyway

12

[lost jungle]

Yes , this season I had 2 wins and last season had another 2 and my count is 4

[wide wraith]

i had 12 wins in my yearbook but now it says only 1

[woven spire]

Ye counts since new store

We have way more then 12

[lost jungle]

It started the count when the new store opened as ah said above

[wide wraith]

then they need to sort out the matching to give players a chance, scrap the teirs and just work of the number of wins like RR does

[odd umbra]

We won 1 and weaker player get a way less rewards that strong player and player from doomsday get a way more

[woven spire]

Dont understand what you mean

Makes sense weaker alliances get less then stronger to me

[odd umbra]

Within the alliance is also an ranking during the Event to get more or less rewards

More points more rewards

[woven spire]

Oh that

[odd umbra]

Weak player less points

[woven spire]

Yes true but believe only frames..might be wrong

[lost jungle]

Yes , there is an internal ranking and it gives speed ups , relocations and golden fragments

[odd umbra]

And if it is and high activ alliance than not all members can play the Events

[lost jungle]

And I think you mean the rewards you get depending on how much points you scored

[odd umbra]

Currently my Alliance have 3 legion in RR (DD and 2 RR)

[odd umbra]

Yes

[wide wraith]

we scrape 2 legions in both RR and KoH, not full but alts got into Legend 2 with only 1 win?? how are we supposed to win anymore??

[lost jungle]

Those are rewards for champion that depend on points if you took 2nd place rewards get less

[wide wraith]

yeah but the teir system for the event has been left in place for too long should have been a one off then back to a matched opponent with wins counting and rewards at the end of the season, like with RR

[woven spire]

Same as living states

Has only cos in my eyes

But some like to chat with state

Living i mean like 5 alliances with 60 people +

First really high on leading. Second harder to rank, third less mines fourth probally drama and disagreements and way more cos

[wide wraith]

the last merge actually killed interest in taking part in major events including Migo, CC and SvS

the opposite of what the Devs intended lol

[woven spire]

Merges are terrible

They should halt them

And just make alliance transfers for free for dead states

Or something like that. The other have to agree aswel

Forced merging is dumb. You end up getting killed or losing fun

[wide wraith]

i dont care if its ticket based transfer as long as forced merges stop

[woven spire]

Ye i mean no forced😂

Its dumb ashell

Activity is overrated in state

Everyone has ambitions to be the best and get the best. People will work as long it benefits them

And you can expect stabbing any moment

People refuse playing svs pure cause they want all

[wide wraith]

and with the changes to 90 days its only going to get worse

[woven spire]

But hey still taking 9 mines and bunkers.

[wide wraith]

events like this new one are worthless as its always the same ones at the top now, ultra whales

[woven spire]

Which new?

[wide wraith]

eternal

[woven spire]

What is that?

[wide wraith]

the latest p2p event

sotf no chance to get in the top 50, so its becomes why bother

[woven spire]

Oh

[woven spire]

If you got a crazy state ye

We dont have to many actives over state. So its not that bad

Needs around 100mil+/ top 10 cause spenders

And maybe 30-50 top 50?

Cross.. well our migo not many spenders so decent😂

[soft gulch]

I am skipping sotf rank and saving materials for operation fest. Top 30 means 40 specops frags

Which is worth 200$

[wide wraith]

i just go though the motions these days, not worth even trying to push in events

[woven spire]

Migo?

[wide wraith]

not even there really

do what i have to and thats it

[soft gulch]

40 spec ops frags = 200$, migo exploration we can only finish if nexus is on, without spending

[wide wraith]

my alts in other states i just have lost interest in

[soft gulch]

I hate spending on coal and coke, that's load of horse shiz

[woven spire]

Ye but missing so much materials for free. Gives states, more mining etcetc

And glory ofc

Spec ops is overrated

If lower spender you really dont need it

Lvl 4 and even 5 are losing of cheap leonardos and raphaels

In fact. My spec ops all have 0 upgraded skills

They all just lvl 7

[wide wraith]

but i already have the main set from Migo so whats the point

[woven spire]

New one?

[wide wraith]

yeah got it last migo

[soft gulch]

Frankly, I don't have a lot of upgrades left, Dino maxed, Lizard 3-4 nodes remaining, crystal troops few nodes of riders left....

Poly research gives very less points, but that is what I do. I don't like it much

3rd aircraft, carrier is going slow.

[wide wraith]

ploy and normal research done, crystal only have rider and hunter rally to do, hero done, treasure caps in on last one will complete in a few days so yeah and people wonder why i lose interest in a lot of events

hero appointment finished weeks ago

dino at abaddon 3 10 a few nodes to go, kong at abaddon 3 1 with less nodes to go

[soft gulch]

The linear paths are ending, no long tail content after FS.

They are going for cheap quick wins like pets or Gacha shiz like gene.

I don't like that

To think of it, Chief gears, Hero gears and badges took 1-1.5 years to complete for mid spenders.

[wide wraith]

but events like journey, TD and even Sotf and svs still use them

[soft gulch]

Recycle ♻️

That's the only way to make points

[wide wraith]

but even then the stuff in the store isnt needed

[soft gulch]

Yep

I am now focussing on morale and collection only...its too expensive for small gains.

[wide wraith]

and older states must have it even worse

[woven spire]

Believe it or not

But we payed 100€ for 200 plasma

😂

[soft gulch]

Thing is a lot many players are in 800-1000 morale range now.

If they increase the ceiling.....its efkked

[wide wraith]

there is one event that has been pushing up my morale without paying but wont say which one as i dont want it changed

[soft gulch]

That used to be a time yeah

[soft gulch]

Dm

[wide wraith]

its one a lot complain about and get told to shut up lol

[woven spire]

😂 iknow which probally

My alt had 200 moral

Without spending

Or wel 169 i think

[wide wraith]

my main only has 184, just before xmas it was 24 lol

[soft gulch]

250/450 comes from that for me

[wide wraith]

i got some good TA though mainly though reforging, not the strongest but can hold the centre for a few hits in AH so in there somewhere lol

[woven spire]

Didnt play ah since i can remeber😂

[wide wraith]

i just play it for fun really now while waiting for friends to finish work

seeing if i can outsmart the whales lol

and to be honest its pretty easy to do that

[woven spire]

Whales still play?

[wide wraith]

yeah, maxed out players sat in the centre lol

time it perfectly and knock them out lol

then sit there because everyone else in on their 5 or 6th march lol

which comes back to wanting the old battle reports which tell you more about who you are fighting

[coarse verge]

I don’t really understand why people complain about it

[wide wraith]

the only thing i would change would be the rewards but leave the rest as it is

and give us the old battle reports i could scan them and see any weakness these new ones tell nothing

[soft gulch]

SoS is unique.

It has whiners who wont quit for years.

And it has whales who drop out after spending more than what me and you will make slogging for10 year,s.

[tardy night]

The new ones don't remove anything though, they just add margins of defeat? 👀

[wide wraith]

maybe i just need time but seeing the huge % to 0 means nothing in the long run

[tardy night]

There's nothing unique about that. That's half the gambling mobile gaming

[coarse verge]

That I totally agree with

[tardy night]

Pick any random city builder mmorts. They even have the same damn icon

[wide wraith]

i guess i am just too old, i still like to plan strategy and tactics even if they have little place in the game these days

[soft gulch]

Frankly, I havent seen anything like this ever. This may be my first 4-EX game but never seen this kind of spend and then dropping out.

I was F2P in CoC, played CR for 4-5 years, that game had no reason for me to spend once I had my style of deck, Ionly spent to give money to Supercell for making fn awesome game.

[woven spire]

Lmao

Clash of clans is actually good

Everyone complain its p2w

But all is achieveable in a fair amount of time

[solid hamlet]

Let's keep the talk sos related please.

[tardy night]

Mods mods. They discussing other games in here

[solid hamlet]

And let keep this channel focused on feedback please

[tardy night]

They banked on player volumes. Pity sos doesn't do that tbh

[woven spire]

We compare in order to make feedback hehe

[soft gulch]

Feedbacks come out of discussion boss.

We just gave you two, didnt we.

[wide wraith]

can i have some feedback wrote for me to bring back the old (2nd) battle reports and get rid of the new ones

[soft gulch]

Anyway my feedback for the day is Blood-red Moon and that HQ skin is drop.dead.gorgeous.

I would really really like to have that.

[solid hamlet]

I will get that done for you

[wide wraith]

thanks, the new ones actually show less information when knowing how best to grow

[soft gulch]

Another thing @solid hamlet
There was this design a coffee mug event, I made extremely cutesy cup, when we gonna know winners.

[tardy night]

They didn't remove anything from old reports. New one added stuff. From what I can see, everything old reports had is still there. You need to click on the drop-down for some stuff to pop out

[wide wraith]

i get these silly reports with like 999.99% to 0

they show me nothing

[tardy night]

Scroll further on them

That 999% is just the difference in kills per item in %

[soft gulch]

user aqusition post IDFA is PITA.
now its spray and pray, and widening up funnel to get casual users to try out in a way that are tricked and acclimated.

[wide wraith]

but thats pretty easy to work out

[solid hamlet]

I will find out.

[wide wraith]

in a fast paced battle its stuff thats not needed

[tardy night]

They weren't anywhere close to those numbers for any of their games even prior to IDFA. Always banked on making most of their money from the 5% rather than the 25%.

[wide wraith]

a good tactical mind doesnt need that info, maybe a gamer does lol

[soft gulch]

we can look at downloads, they were pretty huge,

[solid hamlet]

They will pick a winner in the next day or two.

[tardy night]

We have discussed that one before 🤣

[soft gulch]

we have difeent perspectives. i can live with that.

[tardy night]

When you play in their game with 3 people showing up for svs, and a merger shows 10 active hq within state by their own statistics, my perspective is shaped by data they have shared that's not fudged.

But it's fine. 10 million reviews is good downloads 🫡

[soft gulch]

I should sensortower it, should I?

[tardy night]

No. They used to show active hq within states. They stopped it in this game.

Mergers used to have every player given an automated score.

And states would have 3 people on the scoresheet. Total 3 accounts.

[soft gulch]

cant access my work's ac, but I did on free one, 1 sec.

[tardy night]

Back to the same issue. 2 day account leaving a 5* review isn't a player for anyone except you. 🤣🫡

You can cite those numbers long as you wish to. It's as believable as the user count of Twitter

Investors might bite. They don't play.

[soft gulch]

If you use DAU/downloads/MAU as only metrics to measure. Twitter uses Users seconds spent as primary KPI

[tardy night]

🫡🫡

[tepid rivet]

When are devs going to revert this awful UI

[solemn kraken]

when they come up with a worse one

[north moss]

Ηey heyy!
I hope that they will revert it soon.
We have submitted a lot of feedback about this in case you would like to upvote one #📋︱feedback-reporting message

I can also submit one for you

[north moss]

Hi Hun Chou!
I hope that they won't do that, I want to think that it will go back to how it was because it was not broken anyways. Do you want to submit a feedback about this?

I agreee however,The new ui is so light and it can be annoying or frustrating for example I don't see well without my glasses but I feel like I will need sunglasses every time I wanna log in to the game

So let's think positive

[odd umbra]

A mod should summeriz this 2 both are about removing the new pet breeding
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[solid hamlet]

Thank you for the suggestion The feedback team will combine them and add the votes together.

[solid hamlet]

I guess I am the only one that likes the ui...

Easy to see for this old guy.

[cursive vessel]

New ui still gives me headaches 🤣

So no, i still don't like it

[solid hamlet]

I get it

[wide wraith]

the new HQ no matter how nice actually adds to this, causing headaches as well

The Devs either dont know or dont understand or dont care that constant flashing can and often does cause headaches making players feel sick or worse

[solid hamlet]

That is a great point. I will submit this as feedback

[ruby delta]

they don’t think about lag before adding things half the time let along headaches and the such

[wide wraith]

Due to the nature of this, it needs to be directly submitted as a Health and Safety issue

[wide wraith]

true

[solid hamlet]

👍

[wide wraith]

i actually like the Elf as well almost choose an image like that for my avatar and i dont mean the Tim Curry "legend" character

[tepid rivet]

I upvoted all of them already and we're still in this misery but thanks

[cursive vessel]

I tried to find a way to put in a complaint about it causing headaches but I couldn't find one

[stable cosmos]

Think i just wrote generic feedback

[wide wraith]

i wonder how W3C guidelines apply here which state thar flashing should be able to be stopped and why are they being ignored in a clear breach of legal concerns by the world body and often in breach of local laws meaning that are a breach of FunPlus own ToS

[sharp knot]

I see my lovely comod has written the feedback report about it. Feel free to upvote it #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[wide wraith]

I upvoted it but this is feedback discussion isnt it so i can continue to discuss adding facts etc

[sharp knot]

I just upvoted it too

[sharp knot]

Yes of course and I also think it's an important matter. I am just bringing up the feedback report so maybe others will see it too in the discussion channel as well, since the topic is ongoing

[wide wraith]

my point is does it go further than just a flashing issue ok so its not more than 3 times a second but their is a lot of red in it

[cursive vessel]

It's not even so much the flashing stuff (it doesnt help) but whether it's the brightness or what with the new ui, i have no idea. it's definitely causing me issues though

[wide wraith]

and just looking at in there are more than 3 flashing in 1 second

and thats in a skin i actually like

[sharp knot]

If you want to make another report that includes all the aspects you want, I will gladly help.

[wide wraith]

no first it needs more discussion

would breaching the W3C guidelines also mean a breach of FunPlus's own ToS the bit about following local laws

both China and Switzerland were at W3C so have agreed to follow the guidelines

[slate fossil]

Can you elaborate a bit - I am assuming that you are referring to WCAG guidelines?

or rather the consortium or accessibility guidelines, right?

[wide wraith]

W3C includes that and more

right it comes under accessibility

flashing more than 3 times in a second and mainly in the red spectrum

should those guidelines have been applied to the new HQ skin, the transition from the "legend" character back to the Elf

[slate fossil]

elf?

[wide wraith]

look at the ears on The Lord of Shadows its clearly a Dark Elf

[slate fossil]

I am lost....this feedback forum is for State of Survival-what has elf appearance in another game come into play? and remember we cannot make mention of other games Did you mean King of Avalon?
I am sorry I truly did get lost on what the topic of feedback was....

[wide wraith]

look at the Lord of Shadows HQ skin in SoS from the Eternal Devotion event

[slate fossil]

Oh, okay- Now I am following- I did not know that was the name of that skin!! Lol- My apologies!!

[wide wraith]

the transition from the red devil back to the Elf have a lot of flashes, 4 or 5 within a second

[sharp knot]

Sorry I am back.

[wide wraith]

and i love the Skin as it fits with my name lol

[slate fossil]

lol....It's a hard line to tow then!

[sharp knot]

I was just thinking that.

[wide wraith]

but that flashing added to the constant motion

cant they add a switch so shut off effects like that

[sharp knot]

I just looked closely at the hq skin effect a few times, I think I know the moment you are talking about, but I am no judge to say if it really is more than 3 flashes/second or not. Basically the flashing that can trigger a seizure needs to be more than 3 flashes per second, as well as bright and large enough.

[wide wraith]

yeah

put with the other motion as well the minimum is headaches

[sharp knot]

I am sure there is a sophisticated formula explained in the w3c, regarding how to calculate if the graphics can lead to a seizure or not, but unfortunately I think that we will all appreciate this subjectively here

[wide wraith]

but just on a purely gaming level all that motion adds lag

[slate fossil]

this is true- I don't think they have been taking this fact into consideration

[wide wraith]

ok some of it looks pretty but ot soon becomes old especially in fights where spped is an issue

[sharp knot]

SOS also targets the aesthetics part of gaming

[wide wraith]

true but there has to be a balance, a simple switch allowing players to turn the motion on or off

[tepid rivet]

You mean it only targets aesthetics as nothing is done to reduce lag

[wide wraith]

best of both worlds

[slate fossil]

This is the niche, though often takes a backseat to aesthetics!

[wide wraith]

they can still have all their nice aesthetics but players it adversely affects could toggle them off, similar to the snow could be, some liked it and others hated it

[stable cosmos]

If it targets aesthetics it is 100% missing those shots. Most of this stuff just looks bad

Hqs that cover up other hqs or locations. Flashy bs that makes it hard to see anything. Overuse of trasparent elements which means you can't see what a thing is in the first place

[sharp knot]

I'm around if you wanna make a feedback and suggestion report about it when you are ready

[wide wraith]

i wouldnt mention headaches this is, purely the issue of lag

[sharp knot]

Hi Cyan! Do you have a suggestion about that?

[stable cosmos]

Not that its worth feedback on. They're not going back to adjust the gfx for every pos hq skin they've made

[sharp knot]

Shadow here was suggesting to have the option to "close" some effects

[wide wraith]

similar to the way lite mode used to work

but that only worked on marches

[sharp knot]

Yes I totally get you, I was thinking about lite mode too

[wide wraith]

and thats how they could do it

so its not a perminate thing

[sharp knot]

I'll try to put it all in a feedback if that's okay with you.

[wide wraith]

sure might as well try lol

[sharp knot]

I will write the observation here so many @stable cosmos has something to add to it too

The game graphics contain too many flashing items, bright, moving effects that overlap each other, which can be disturbing to players.
Solution would be to add the option in the 'lite mode" to have a more detailed section for the flashy effects so the players can choose whether they want to see it or not.

[wide wraith]

i even tried the switch in settings, it doesnt work on Windows

[sharp knot]

That's the main idea I'm thinking of

[wide wraith]

actually having the lite mode settings in the game setting work would fix it

its not so much that it disturbs players already covered that it the fact that it adds to the lag

[sharp knot]

With lite mode you can set to not see other player's HQ skins

[wide wraith]

yeah if it worked

just tried it

[sharp knot]

It works

[wide wraith]

on Windows and Ipad

[sharp knot]

But that means you will not see the hq skin completely, not just close off the flashy effects

[wide wraith]

its like the disable popup notifications at the top of the screen it doesnt work

[sharp knot]

You have to go to settings, lite mode, and uncheck the HQ skins and the sentinels, towers effects

[wide wraith]

i did

then rebooted

they tried again

[sharp knot]

I just did and for me personally it worked

[wide wraith]

hmmmm

hasnt worked for some time for me

[sharp knot]

That's why I was thinking lite mode kind of does that, but if you still want to see some aspects, it could be more detailed so the skin doesn't completely disappear, but will have less features.

[wide wraith]

yeah, its an issue but a complicated topic for feedback

[sharp knot]

At the moment, in game,you can choose to see the HQ skins only, without seeing sentinels, effects, towers. Or you can choose to not see the HQs, or you can choose to not see any of those. So the aesthetic part of the game is completely gone regarding the skins.

[wide wraith]

thats if it works, on 4 devices now it hasnt worked

[sharp knot]

After setting the preferences, I think you would have to zone out the map and then back in. Maybe try that?

[wide wraith]

i totally rebooted

[sharp knot]

[wide wraith]

its never worked for me same as the popup message blocker

that should block things like player x won 20000k bios on exploration

[sharp knot]

We can move to the https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/925537726223237180 if you want

[wide wraith]

nah its ok used to it now

might be the way my graphics card is set up

and i am not going to mess with that

[sharp knot]

Alrighty

In this case, I will call it a night as well. I hope you can use the new HQ skin because it should totally suit you!

[wide wraith]

if i can afford it, i will get it

[sharp knot]

I wish you luck

[wide wraith]

give me jungle Gems for the magneying glasses and i will get it lol

and i might even learn to spell too but i doubt that

[sharp knot]

I kinda hope they will give us JG too for this event.

[teal delta]

Does it also work on removing the hideous bad knock off of a McDonalds menu from the 1970’s that the new UI represents?. because that is extremely bad. Never hire people who hates graphics as graphic designers..

[warped token]

The valentine's day event Beyond the Clouds has ridiculously high requirements for rewards. Just a waste of time even trying to play that event

[zealous plover]

When are we getting new plasma buildings?

[wide wraith]

hopefully not for a while yet so i can build up a stockpile of plasma

[digital nexus]

No word on anything past Plasma 15 for the moment. Keep an eye on #⭐︱game_information and #📌︱game_updates for any announcements

[tardy night]

Did you max out the rest of the game

[teal summit]

Tired of buying package that's mostly down grades. 98% down grade and you loose what ever your using to upgrade. This is a rip off. The pet breeding is stupid. Just stating facts. Your chest are rip offs. Tired of wasting money on your down grades. Get it together.

[drifting viper]

I do agree with you. It's super frustrating to reforge a skill and to get a lesser Stat. It can get super expensive. Id highly suggest submitting a feedback in regards to this as I'm sure alot will support you

[teal summit]

Specially after you keep getting bad odds. 98%

[marble grove]

So 150 spins and like 9 of 15 of them looked like this... is rays even worth it atm?

28 frags from boxes some from digs etc over past few days... and only 60 max crap hero boxes?

[stable anvil]

Only worth maxing to 120 times and thats it now, because one DEVS suck when i made a feedback to replace the "?" Mystery item to Potions before they removed HERO CHALLENGE. It made it to top 10 feedback for the week and it was brushed off despite having over 150 votes if i am not mistaken. Now we have less potions to max heroes. I also made another feedback which made top 10 to increase the amount of spins per day by 30 and to add another mileage crate with more new gen frags and potion which will also promote more people to spin. These feedback was also ignored by the dev team because they dont want to implement it.

Secondly we can blame the feedback of many players who said to reduce bios from Tycoon Mining, Jungle Gems and Fishing event or reduce the events entirely. With the amount of bios we were steadily getting we could go 3 rounds max spins and use bios for other things; it wasn't much but atleast it gave us chances to get a minor frag or 2 for new gen, more crates with old gen frags and potions and ofcourse the occasional speedups.

[digital glacier]

I love playing sos
It's amazing
The devs do such an amazingly wonderful job to make the gaming experience of players so smooth and enjoyable for everyone

[stable anvil]

This sign in supposed to be with the other banner. It shows up ad whe you collect the banner disappears with it

But i guess devs are ridiculous the need to make a whole new spot for them, why not a collect al sign in button that helps.

[wet ermine]

I’ve always thought that if the game registers you logging in you should automatically get the log in rewards

I can submit feedback on it if you’d like 😅

[stable cosmos]

That stupid thing lives in rewards center if it doesn't show on its own. Have to check there reliably... shouldn't have to of course but never trust the devs

[vivid grove]

I never get the pop up I have to check in the reward center

[lost jungle]

I always get the pop up

[soft gulch]

I got like 10 from spin. Its 4 more than last time.

[digital glacier]

There shouldn't be 5 places to sign in though 🙄

Collabpration
Vip
Daily
Other crap
Other other crap 🤣

collaborations when there is one before yall be some smart a mofo.

[soft gulch]

About time.

[soft gulch]

Not evolving game experience with time brings frustration.

Having 30 places to signin back in 2019 wasn't a bad choice, it was the design.
Same as having 5mins Fiend rallies.

LiveOps games can transcend into new eras where expected user experience can be very different from the expectation people had at launch.

---

But I am not happy with their recent fkups.

Nothing feels long-tail, everything seems hurried for quick wins.

[patent olive]

I get 62 custom completion from 151x rays

[coarse verge]

Seriously?
Are you guys making a sarcastic comments or asking for more upgrades?

[tardy night]

There's this other game where new updates drop every 2 days.

Wonderful for such folks I reckon

[soft gulch]

I would always support long tail aspirations compared to moneyhat things.
Plasma upgrades are long tail.

P15 came in July for our bracket, so P16-P18 should be on the cue for release within next 2 MIGOs

I think since T12 used a different material addition to plasma, next HQs may require something different too.

We are entering 3rd year for the original 1111-1128 bracket. We should expect it at the pace game is evolving.

[tardy night]

P15 upgrades happened within the same week of release for most folks from p12 in the global bracket. Will be the same for p18.

It just pushes the gap. Nothing else.

Every whale would be sitting at 15k+ poly plasma

You were fast tracked to catch up, the release pace doesn't have to be what the new states faced for the global bracket.

[coarse verge]

We got P15 same time as T12 we were pushed

No whale in our bracket with those upgrades will be sitting on enough poly or plasma

Especially with gen skip coming soon , for older states I can understand , although it will be huge for them too

For our bracket, it would be a disaster

[tardy night]

It would be a disaster for everyone* except the 1%

[coarse verge]

Exactly

Especially while asking for an upgrade that joiners must have

[soft gulch]

Yes that's correct.
And I decided to sit on P13 for a Migo cuz T12@P13 > T11@P15

[coarse verge]

With spacecraft too

The amount of pressure they are putting on rally leaders are insane as of now , imagine them having to pull people with a new plasma level less than required

[tardy night]

I think some of these folks get carried in rank 1 alliances and have no clue of the larger impact

The jungle gem folks and those asking for more upgrades

[coarse verge]

And they are not aware what are happening state wide

[tardy night]

And when the going gets tough they simply move alone to some new state to get carried again

[coarse verge]

Every transfer whale states are pushed more and more , leaving dead states vs unbeatable ones

[soft gulch]

That's not correct, noone asks for anything, and gets that done by Devs.

Devs already have things to do for 2 years on their roadmap. We are just speculating or asking around (like that guy) so we are prepared.

Then there is stuff like Pets match3 RPG being dropped absolutely out of blue, I wouldn't want anything to do with it.

[tardy night]

In power creep - pets match 3 is better for dealing with the gap than material whales can hoard to max out day 1.

Because everyone starts off at the same starting line, and randomness can result in big differences across the line.

Plasma is just instant 2x stat jump

When p15 released, people had it done within that very week. Some did it within hours of release. While f2p are still at p12 or 13s

[coarse verge]

Whales are struggling with pets as much as anyone
They don’t have enough to max it and only few will go for it

They aren’t required for joiners in their current state

I can totally ignore them and I will still be as weak

P16-18 , the second it drops we are all ( a family unfriendly word)

It is about the scale of the upgrade not that upgrade itself

[strong grove]

Our state best

Old state

This not fair

I hate this merger

Dev is f%

[soft gulch]

So you are right, that Joiners' Plasma matters. And Pets remains absolutely optional as it should be.
I think it is still boils down to RL's stats a lot. I have seen joiner plasma losing us against 1125, but that was P9/P10 times. A lot of asymmetry has come in since.

[strong grove]

dev is always doing injustice to us

[coarse verge]

We lost against 1125 and joiners were a huge part of it

[strong grove]

It is not fair to match the new state with the old state, is it?

[soft gulch]

The old 1125 with T?

[thorn nymph]

Nah. You guys had better joiners..

[coarse verge]

We still have 😂 , it was a disaster in both allocation and distribution

[thorn nymph]

Hero 1 should have gone to niacin

[strong grove]

Does the wolf still play the game?

[thorn nymph]

Nope

He quit a year back.

[strong grove]

😬😬

[strong grove]

He must have realized that this game was getting worse and worse

[thorn nymph]

No idea what happened

[cloud ridge]

Forsore the pet breeding and other bs and dipped whilst not in debt

[coarse verge]

He left way before that , He didn’t even start FS properly

He was smart

[cloud ridge]

We should all follow 😂

[soft gulch]

Its hotel california.

[coarse verge]

We most definitely should

[lavish heron]

Maybe I’m wrong but shouldn’t this be green for the person on the left??

[lost jungle]

Amplification stat of player on right should be higher than player on the Left

[lavish heron]

Not amplification or attack… just defense and health

The report says the person on the left has much lower defense and heath stats than the person on the right but looking at the stats individually, the person on the left has much higher defense and health to the one on the right.

Does this mean report are just useless or is my calculation wrong??

[lost jungle]

Yes the report says the player on the right has much lower defense and health stats than the player on the left but the player on the right should have higher amplification stat than player on the left

Amplification stat affects all stats

[lavish heron]

Amplification shows on “amplification” tab and not under “defense and health”

There are sections in a report; attack and lethality, defense and health, amplification and damage bonus and reduction

[wide wraith]

it was a lot easier to tell before the Devs unnecessarily messed with it

[lavish heron]

But this is quite easy. I mean if you click on the stats, it shows you the numbers and you can see the difference based on who is stronger or not in that particular stat

Cause at this point it means the game rolls a dice on who is stronger. That was a lost battle which I can’t see why the person on the left lost….

[lost jungle]

Yes , when you click on stats it will tell you the numbers but in the chart shows you percentage difference but it contains amplification affects

[lavish heron]

Alright. So if it contains amplification affects, what does the “amplification” section contain??

[cloud ridge]

Reports i find more confusing now personally

Least the changed section, rest is kinda ok just a lot of junk to go through which is tedious

[lost jungle]

Amplification section contains amplification percentage difference between the two players

[lavish heron]

Amplification difference is the amplification effect difference if the two players. That’s why when you check the detailed information, it shows everything relating to amplification and when you check others, they show everything relating to what they are

I don’t think amplification is part of defense, health, lethality or attack

[spark kindle]

They've over complicated the game to the point that players don't understand a thing when they look at battle reports. Analysing battle reports now require a four year degree and preferably a master's on top of that.

[knotty storm]

If you're not RL, you can ignore the reports 😅😅😅😅😅

[spark kindle]

That's not the point

[lavish heron]

Exactly. That’s not the point

[knotty storm]

Yeah, i know... 🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈 At one point the reports were useless as they weren't accurate at all...

[spark kindle]

You can ignore many things, it should be easily understandable for the average player and they should be catering to the average player who are the majority of the player base.

[lavish heron]

I mean when you see attack, you should think of anything that gives attack and the same for any other thing

[spark kindle]

But no, majority of the player base have to rely on some kind souls who study day and night to decipher the reports. This is absolutely ridiculous.

[lavish heron]

Cause if it’s wrong, does it mean they roll a dice cause it will make sense how we lose to people who are weaker cause most times we see the report and go “oh they had a better stat” while that can be fake

[soft gulch]

Reports are nice, but battle engine has conked because of morale
Just lost an immoral fight I should'nt have in any case.

Btw, Control Breach is anamazing Gene skill.

[knotty storm]

When was the last time fart- did something that's easy to understand and use?🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈😭😭😭😭😭

[lavish heron]

Right now I don’t think I can rest till I know why that defense and health is low cause the one on the left lost the fight and I have been trying to find out why but can’t and that’s how I noticed this

[soft gulch]

I cant believe I lost this cuz of morale.

[dim marlin]

I would say also team compatibility means a lot of troop types other play had i think it could have played a role too

[lavish heron]

Makes no sense. Sometimes I beat people with morale double of mine and even have stronger behe and other things and yet I lose to someone I have more morale than and I’m stronger

[soft gulch]

I won Power dual and I have better aircraft

[cloud ridge]

Reports more complicated and more stuff they add harder it gets, especially when in this case trying to see why you win or lose and there's just a chunk of text thrown at you for you to try and decipher

[lost jungle]

As I said above the amplification section shows the percentage difference of both players but in the health and defense section it takes the effects of amplification into consideration

[soft gulch]

This was Hero setup, his wasn't in style and olly ffs

[lost jungle]

And when you click on stats it tells you numbers without taking amplification into consideration

[soft gulch]

I need a MOD to pass this message to the devs, something has broken in the Battle Engine, the Morale is defining the battle.
Any technical mod here? with dev connection?

[cursive vessel]

People have complained about apex / immortal for ages. Think there's even been feedback on it before now

[dim marlin]

Hi udham

[soft gulch]

Conor's first skill Baseball barrage didnt even get fired, wtf!

[dim marlin]

I would suggest feedback goes directly to the Devs, we can make a feed back for it

Or if you still feel neglected you can open a LMOD ticket

[soft gulch]

I put a feedback last time, it was downvoted

[dim marlin]

Well it do not stop us from reposting

If you like i can make a feedback for you

[soft gulch]

Cool. Let me take all screenshot, I will DM you.
You please put it in the highest padestal that it gets seen.

[lavish heron]

So basically it affects lethality and attack also

[lost jungle]

Yes , it affects lethality and attacks too

[dim marlin]

Its great Yes lets go dm and we make a feedback together

[coarse verge]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

Upvote this please

[woven spire]

No context in your screens

[tardy night]

Some tempest which silences 👀

[woven spire]

I assume its apex. Apex moral count heavily > solo to > rally. First screen you got inf lethal thats not going to cut it. Maybe his tempest is better skilled, dna or he has like 25% moral damage on you (means all of him will do 25% more) which is a big deal

Then the heroes.. idk old once

Futher.. amplifications. Maybe yours are enot effiecent. Inf lethal/attack hunter hp/defense and his are perfect

[woven spire]

Here i already see he has a dna skill. You dont. Big deal

There is so much going on. That you cant rely on green arrows only

I have today fixed someone in alliance account and damage went up by 50% without spending a penny

[fleet jay]

Olly is bad against Berserk

[woven spire]

Hete look at the stats

[tardy night]

The other side probably using buzz to silence connor

[woven spire]

Really no idea of old heroes but assume thsts also some factor

We all know apex is bad.. but its not thaat bad

It gives a decent indication of where you are. Never use it to build account on, just use it as indication if you improving and if something is worth looking into

[woven spire]

But i personally think that the win was legit and not only moral

[woven spire]

Yep.. rip🤣

[tardy night]

Cardini enhanced will do that too. If it's the same battle

[soft gulch]

What you think that worked for him? I

[soft gulch]

If Cardini silenced the back row (hunter hero) then f me.

• on 8th turn Cardini silenced Conor and the charge he was building since 4th turn didnt work.

[tardy night]

Your opponent probably has that particular node enhanced. Put a peerless power on connor

[soft gulch]

Looks like he does

[ruby delta]

so how much did they test the new wings with the new hqs? cause the wings cover the hq most the time to point of not being able to see half of it

would hope if they got any set of wings to line up right with it it would be the ones to get released at same time

[cloud ridge]

You gotta pay to move your moon once you've already spent £££ to obtain it

[ruby delta]

don’t give them ideas

[vernal moss]

Hi sue, well that’s really something. Guess the overlapping is to try show off the guardian more than the skin. I’d suggest to write a bug report in #🐞︱bug-reporting-bot about it

[soft gulch]

@cloud ridge why did you downvote?

[cloud ridge]

I dont want reports even more confusing and unclear, elaborate is what I read that as

I dont have an issue with it in general, as often reports are very huh?

But they don't seem to be good at making them clear and the more rubbish that's added the harder it gets.

[warped token]

the march ended few tiles back (hitting an intel). Clicking on the straight line ahead of that still bring this up. There's absolutely no need for this. It causes lot of mis clicks and frustrations at key moments in RR/Doomsday

[full rampart]

Hello Arcane is away, probably sleeping. May i help?

[soft gulch]

yes please.

please delete this feedback. thank you.
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[full rampart]

Why do you want to delete it? Only because some people don’t agree with it?

[full rampart]

Hello! This looks like a visual bug

[wide wraith]

styles was a terrible idea in the first place, most people dont seem to use tham anyway and still win in the arena matches even if quite a bit lower in stats and morale it seems to be the first hero only, but who knows with arena matches

[cursive vessel]

Downvotes don't make a difference, neither do upvotes to be fair
If they like an idea, they'll implement it regardless of what we think

[full rampart]

I understood arena matches aren’t the best way to test the power

[wide wraith]

true they are not but its all we have for now without losing troops

[full rampart]

I don’t quite like his “solutions” he will bring another 🦠 for the next migo

[rain reef]

Welp, maybe Dr. Y will works on something that can more "powerful" than morale.. Ssstt.. No spoiler

[spark kindle]

People who can't handle different opinions maybe should avoid posting feedbacks, just saying

[full rampart]

Yes in understand.. we used to test in capital clash but the problem is that joiners matter also

[warped token]

yes it is. need to be fixed. sometimes when you want to click on a spot to relocate, there might be a march somewhere marching in that direction and you'd not be able to get the "relocate"option

[ruby delta]

waiting for people to realise it isn’t the morale that is over powering them but the hero damages and damage reductions from collections

[soft gulch]

they do, only top-10 feedback get sent to devs.
anyway downvote is not my problem. my problem is that in this game there is no way I can tell my problem to devs. ZERO.

I will have to rely on this system where anyone facing an issue which is not experienced by a lot of people, has to go through this troll-gate.
This problem I am facing only in this MIGO precidely since they brouught in gene recombo and TA S3.

Noone is even ready to entertain a possibility that there is an accidental Nerf or accidental bump to morale dmg. The only way it can be investigated that it reaches devs.

If the trolls sitting on this gate decide to not let it reach to devs, they are enemies of the community.

[ruby delta]

they are not trolls for disagreeing with you

[full rampart]

You are wrong here, all feedbacks either with 1 or 1000 votes get sent to the developers

[cursive vessel]

All feedback gets sent to devs, they just make a point of the top 10

[full rampart]

We have moderators that collect the information from the channels also, so the discussions here, even if they are not reported they also get sent

Feedback is an opinion of someone, not everyone will agree with the ideeas one have, sometimes people will feel this is not needed or maybe they simply don’t like that ideea. This doesn’t make anyone right or wrong

[soft gulch]

There is no agreeing and disagreeing to specific issue faced by a player..

think of this:
if you have a toothache you go to doctor, how about other folks sitting in line at clinic start shouting that "we dont agree that this fellow has toothache, dont let him see the doctor"

[ruby delta]

u are looking at the wrong stats though, their hero damages and damage reductions are 20% higher than urs atleast, this will do more damage to ur rally and march than morale?

i burn and beat a lot with higher morale, but if they have higher hero damages and damage reductions then there is no point

same for amplifications

[spark kindle]

That analogy is wrong because in this case you want everyone to get new crowns for their teeth when in fact you yourself think you need one. When you're making a suggestion that concerns everyone else, people are allowed to disagree with you

[full rampart]

And to explain, every feedback get’s sent, no matter the amount of upvotes or downvotes. The only special thing about top 10 is the answer, since there are hundreds of feedbacks collected ans sent in a month i think is not possible for them to give an answer individually for each one of them

[spark kindle]

Devs will have more credibility about feedbacks if they didn't just cherry pick what to implement from feedbacks and in most cases make it worse than before but thank you Tallie for the info, tbh I thought only top 10 got sent

[tardy night]

Potions feedback gotta be pushed 10x for them to ignore answering it eh 🤣

[soft gulch]

you are now shifting goalposts. I never said problem is faced by everyone from state 1-1360.
But there are good chances that there would be more like me, if there is a f up. I cannot expect you to round up everyone in the town who is having a toothache just to make you justify having a toothache.

Again this is for devs to investigate and find out. @ruby delta
Why are we so petty about this

[ruby delta]

don’t delete ur message

say it with chest

[soft gulch]

oh lol. I would never.

[ruby delta]

i literally just watched u

[spark kindle]

I'm not shifting anything, you don't realise what you're asking for.

[soft gulch]

was tagging lovely dane

[spark kindle]

You want them to change battle reports, no? Which will affect EVERYONE else not just you and people are entitled to have opinions regarding things that affect them. And they don't necessarily have to be the same as yours

That's all I was saying

But back to my initial statement, those who can't handle different opinions should not be posting feedbacks

I think one of my feedbacks got close to 100 downvotes, you won't see me arguing with people over it 😂

[soft gulch]

ok hold on a second.
I am not asking for them to do anything with reports.
I am asking them to investigate the morale issue.

[cloud ridge]

I'll upvote and downvote as I please thank you

[spark kindle]

Please read your own feedback, you're asking them to make reports more elaborate, it means you're asking them to change the reports from the current situation.

[soft gulch]

I think Arcane should remove that line
I didnt want anything but investigation

[ruby delta]

morale isn’t an issue

[tardy night]

They use apex to push stuff that has a lower priority for people but they want to sell. Morale is one such item having a higher weight in apex than in normal war.

When they get something new to push, that the low to mids aren't focusing on, they will change the weights again.

Don't buy into the fomo.

Follow the money to see what they're doing.

[cloud ridge]

Reports need to be simpler, they'll end up making it worse, it's not your fault or anything I just know they'll look at it and if it's one of the very few they decide to act on they'll somehow make worse by taking snip it's of it.

I just won't upvote cause I wanna avoid that, I already hate new format cause to me it's more confusing than before.

[wide wraith]

apex is a law unto itself

[soft gulch]

It has made me lose my mind this season. tbh

[tardy night]

The existence of an entire separate engine in itself should be enough of a tell. Not the first time they want to sell misinformation. Their business model thrives on complex misdirections.

[soft gulch]

No problem @cloud ridge

We are good

I will have those things removed from Arcane

[soft gulch]

I am really really frustated with this issue.
It feels like all my spending has gone through gutter.

I want a closer to this somehow.
Just matter of weeks I started losing to folks I was winning against.

[cursive vessel]

These days i couldn't even tell you what you should focus on

[lavish heron]

Is there someone who can read a report so I know why I lost a fight and what I can do cause I can’t see a reason why I lost a fight and it’s annoying me so bad

[cursive vessel]

Cause there's so much of it

[unkempt sun]

I think these are all interesting points but honestly when you have a base battle algorithm and then you start to add on things later on in development like impact of morale, behemoths, airplanes, tanks, tempest arms, genetics, Pets.... And so forth,the weight of each of these items has to be accounted for. I think while we want simpler reports, it's sort of impossible with everything they've tacked on. And if we truly want to see all the details about the battles it's one, "secret" and two probably going to look a bit crazy if we saw it

[knotty storm]

Just test on real map with tent battles, arenas aren't accurate

[tardy night]

Wait till you learn some of that stuff doesn't function at all

[unkempt sun]

I mean..every single addition is something else they have to "factor" in... And at this point it's a bit much

[spark kindle]

None of these would be an issue if they just stopped inventing imaginary and unintelligible stats just to be able to sell new features.

[lavish heron]

I am losing to this guy in apex and immortal and it’s frustrating me cause I can’t see why.

[wide wraith]

apex and immortal make no sense

[vale yoke]

I swear they make up stats on reports just to pretend it explains the weird ± otherwise left unaccounted for because their math is more of a concept than anything. At the end of the day, nothing you see in reports is anywhere close to accurate, but as long as there are words and percentiles and something adds up to something else, it's fine, right?

Right??

And omg if I complained about my downvotes, I'd get kicked off server. So what if people downvote feedback, it means it doesn't represent them. That should be a huge indication to anyone writing feedback - even myself - that their opinion isn't always going to actually reflect what a majority of people want or need.
It's not a personal attack if someone downvotes; it's their opinion.

[tardy night]

We aren't at the point yet where PhDs not gonna cut it.

[vale yoke]

And honestly anyone here thinking they should just get to talk with the devs because they have some sort of issue with the game and spend so much money ..
Me first

[tardy night]

Oh. Talking about reports...lemme search for one.

[vale yoke]

At least I'm actually owed a dev chat and not just thinking I'm entitled to one

[lavish heron]

I know but it’s annoying… what’s the point of having resonated heroes?? This guy has no resonated heroes and mine are maxed skills and even level 5 and maxed regular heroes and he doesn’t even have anything like that except higher morale, aircraft and behe(monkey only) and he is winning… I have other things higher and I’m losing…

[wide wraith]

I have lost were everything is higher except morale

[lavish heron]

I thought fortress stance for TA is trash?? I used to have that skill and it was trash and now the opponent is getting high kills with it

[tardy night]

quiz time. how many troops were in the march

[vale yoke]

1?

Wait. Which side

[tardy night]

Right side

[cursive vessel]

I thought 1 too ha

[wide wraith]

its 1 hero biu could be any number of troops

[vale yoke]

Wait. Tbh it kinda just looks like they sent an empty march and only one hero, but...

Did the final hope reinforcements arrive? Lol

[lavish heron]

Aaarrrrggghhh

This game is annoying ASF

[tardy night]

They show plane duels damage dealt as kills 🤣

[vale yoke]

[wide wraith]

which is why i wanted the reports to be rolled back to how it was

[tardy night]

It was some 100 troops in march

[soft gulch]

so it was a Messacre

[wide wraith]

these new ones want no sense

[soft gulch]

they didnt get to see report

[wide wraith]

but that was what we asked for not this new💩

[vale yoke]

I almost feel like we need to make a spreadsheet showing what we want reports to look like. And even then ...

continues pushing this boulder up the mountain

[unkempt sun]

If only you could sit down with the devs....

[knotty storm]

For everyone complaining about arenas results, how many actually tested the accuracy on real map?

[cursive vessel]

They make things too complicated, all the stuff they add makes things complicated anyway but then they over complicate the reports on how all that stuff 'performs'

[tardy night]

What I want to know of that report really was, no behemoth, no hero which healed troops. No plane formation system which revived troops.

What made the heroes, collection and behemoth kill more troops than on the March itself. 🤣

And if it's simply damage dealt there too 🤣🤣

[vale yoke]

At this point, there's so much to wade through and deal with, I don't even know if it would take one sit down. That's why a council or some sort of session with some game team reps and some players in different ages of states could actually break it down.

The fact is, they're still making good money off this title, and that doesn't have to stop, but there are some things that do need to stop - one of them is ignoring their community.

We may not agree on feedback topics or what's best for each other, but we can at least agree that we feel unheard and would like to be able to have a more active say in what's happening to us than just submitting feedback and hoping.

[unkempt sun]

As a player I 100% agree as there are a lot of core issues that we experience I will continue to try and do whatever I am able to in order to get these improvements in front of the decision makers

[wide wraith]

of course the old saying "you can lead a horse to water but cant make it drink" applies but here its you can show the Devs feedback but you cant make them read or even consider it

[soft gulch]

Please edit this feedback.
#📋︱feedback-reporting message
And modify lines please.

Observation:

"Battle Report Do not reflect the actual results which normally should be according to the Strength of the players

change to>>>

Advantage with higher Combat Morale seems to be overpowering all other systems, stat, behemoth, FS.

"Battle Should be better calculated on strengths not single factors

Battle Reports should be more elaborative"

change to >>>>

Investigate Combat morale impact changes done recently

[unkempt sun]

I will reach out to Arcane Dawn for you

They can only edit it unfortunately

[soft gulch]

ok thank you

[lavish heron]

He has no active tempest, only has 4 decorations and I still lost🤣

This game is ridiculous

This is my alt

I give up…

[wide wraith]

the mk1 seems to be what did all the damage, would need to see details, TA doesnt make a lot of difference depending on the genes of their leader

[lavish heron]

That’s just impossible. His mk1 can’t be the reason he won. My mk2 is 3 times that… the game is just broken at this point

[wide wraith]

oh it can be, the mk1 protects different thingd to the mk2

like i said the devil would be in the detail

those stats dont show the whole story

[dim marlin]

Hi udham

Your desired changes have been made you can review your Feedback at

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[wide wraith]

another thing those stats dont show is the mk3 /companion, and how that affects things, heroes used and their styles as well

like i have been saying the new battle reports are useless compared to the ones they replaced

[strong robin]

<@&628563208164081690> i need help with feedback

[cloud ferry]

Hi. How can I help?

[strong robin]

I want to submit feedback

[cloud ferry]

Feel free to write what it is about

[strong robin]

Ok submit it for me tell dev to stop introducing new things in game it’s killing the game and we can’t keep up also introduce 3 days shield and reduce its cost to 2500 biocaps

Cmon chop chop

[cloud ferry]

I have submitted your feedback. You can check the feedback-reporting channel to upvote it

[strong robin]

Thanks crystal

Appreciate it

[cloud ferry]

You're welcome. Can I assist you further?

[strong robin]

That will be all for now if i need help with anything else i will surely ask you

[static tulip]

I think you hit someone 2+plasma levels ahead of you, base stats with all their bonuses are a massive difference.

[thorny hornet]

is there a schedule for when operation festival starts? and if yes, what is it?

[digital glacier]

Now do you understand why I tell you and other people often that they need to slow down. Stop jumping the gun.
Talk to an expert. Otherwise referred to as the ancient players who have been around for years who have provided tons of feedback and seem to be the people who understand the game better than a lot of players. Aka 99.9999% are not a mod you'll get these answers from 🙄

[digital glacier]

Team troop capabilities - 34%
Yeah. That will account for a lot with very small % in a lot of categories.
Also, % of mk1 MK2 formation etc.
Is a % based on bp.

1m bp in purple skill is not the same as 1m bp in green skill

^green skill will use about 5% more batteries for the bp, which means, more skills upgraded 😂
^purple skill does a lot more damage
Just example.

[stable cosmos]

I just noticed something. Spaceship sign in didn't pop up. It doesn't always. So i went to get it. No red dot. You mean to tell me that devs can put a no red dot code onto things? And they don't get a red dot? Astonishing

I've tuned most of them out but there are so many things that don't need one, and then something like this where it'd help doesn't have it

[stable anvil]

They decide which is more important to put a red dot, like for me its that one decoration that i can upgrade but i dont want to. I click it and the red dot never disappears

[soft gulch]

Lmao.

[soft gulch]

Normally shows once in a month, in SVS week, as we have seen in the last few runs.

[thorny hornet]

Can't like any but the number 1 person. 2 and 3 give error message

Now I couldn't even like 1

[spare panther]

Could we please implement a way to be able to cancel timer help requests that you submitted by an accidental click

[digital nexus]

I could submit this feedback for you. I just need a little more info. Why do you want to be able to cancel a timer help request?

[digital glacier]

Your on this kick lately, so quick to think the reason you lose fights is because of morale. And you find it from another that other players heroes has a big impact on it and even they say, it sends legit

[stable cosmos]

I don't get the cancel either. I never ask for help on my troop timers. Thats the only one i might ever want canceled as it would get them out of sync to finish within similar time frames.

Dunno why you'd can any of the others

[warped token]

Anyone got Doomsday and Alliance Duel at the same time? Hearing from many friends that they have that conflict for them

[unreal lichen]

Yes that has been a common complaint lately.

[stable anvil]

If its for troops their is no downside to requesting troops help, but all timer help request i believe can be nulled if you cancel the thing you are upgrading/researching/training.

But to make a feedback to mess with a coding thats as deep as Bunker/Facility best not ask devs because they dont know how.

[warped token]

sooooo we are getting tomatoes? and epic map and 2 skin tickets?

or are they going to fix the freaking schedule?

[unreal lichen]

Honestly we will have to wait for an update to find out unless they drop hints ahead of time. We moderators have heard this feedback quite a bit and it also affects us too if we participate in both. I imagine it's even worse for the rally leads in those situations too.

[unreal lichen]

If you haven't already voted on it, here is the feedback report regarding the simultaneous scheduling of alliance duel and doomsday events. #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[stable cosmos]

This was an issue, with complaints last doomsday. Note the huge number of fixes to make sure it doesn't happen again

Also note that the dev fix was "you have a truce time" which basically means alliances play DD or AD.

[tardy night]

They did fix allowing 8 bets in a week. The key issue was fixed 🫡

The plebs get only enough material from their standout tournament to ...buy 1 single item.

And the plebs are 95% of the game.

[wide wraith]

its time to put an end to the tower forest in Duels, give us a fixed 1 min march time from anywhere is the state

[weak ingot]

Morale has almost zero affect on a battles results if both players aren’t maxed

But is usually an indicator of who has spent more

Which is why people think morale = win

No, it’s not, it’s this specific factor that is winning, but you can’t see it because you’re looking at the wrong thing

Should the game be simpler ?

Yeah absolutely, remove half of the content from the game so everyone can understand reports and this game will be more fun and fair for everyone

Unfortunately that is not the game we live and yes unfortunately this one random variable will absolutely win fights if one side neglects it and the other side doesn’t

Get used to reading reports if you want to understand why you lost

[fluid solstice]

When the heck can we recycle statue permits for the Capricorn statue? Old statue permits were worth skin tickets after maxing… this one we’ve sat on through a million events and even low spenders have excess, and all of a sudden we can’t recycle the extras anymore? FFS

[weak ingot]

No one has a clue, they just kinda update recycling when it’s like 2 years later

Recycling has NEVER kept up to date with our needs and you can expect it to stay that way

[tardy night]

And remember, that's entirely fake.

This game has people dedicated to faking reports

[weak ingot]

Ah yes a skill that increase troops dmg by 18.5% and is useless elsewhere 🤣

People keep asking for more details thinking it’ll magically show up why they’re losing

And they just need to pause and take a moment to learn game mechanics

That skill is a perfect example of that kind of fluff. It’s so powerful only when you’re being attacked

It’s useless elsewhere.

[tardy night]

Can't learn when half of it is fake and the game deliberately misleads regarding what works and what doesn't

[weak ingot]

It’s simpler than people think.

[tardy night]

Why does apex need a separate engine

The fault is partly with the company. Telling people to read reports is only half the solution. The other half is to tell these farts to show what actually happens.

They sure as heck do that in their new games. 99% of what's under the hood is what's happening.

[weak ingot]

The problem is that every turn, people will see things like behemoth do 99% dmg and be like

Oh behemoth is ultra powerful.

when it’s the fact that they have maxed plane and you don’t

So their behemoth is boosted by 700% stats that YOU DONT HAVE

[tardy night]

That can be treated. Misinformation where the game shows x and M is the real thing happening is just misdirection to push spending.

Why do all the heroes have wrong info?

[weak ingot]

The heros are kinda irrelevant to the discussion honestly, there are about 15 things i point to before heros become a factor

[tardy night]

That doesn't answer the question. Why is their skillset faked

[weak ingot]

Probably cuz last time they had the skills actually do what they said, it resulted in rally leads stacking towers with 8 hero skills

[tardy night]

People optimising gameplay....

[weak ingot]

Is bad for the company

[tardy night]

So the blame lies with ....the players

[weak ingot]

Nah, the blame lies with the company, but if you don’t like it, stop spending, the game hasn’t changed in 4 years

[tardy night]

Lol

[weak ingot]

Every time people get a chance to optimize or understand the engine

That’s a sign that the next feature is coming out

Why do you think we got 4 different rng things in less than 2 months?

Maxed players were optimizing

And when they do that, they optimize their spending

Which is a no no

[tardy night]

People have understood the engine and mined game data since the game began.

Heck Russians and the Chinese had a battle calculator for the game before it even began cuz for the first few months they used the same copy of their prior stuff.

They fake data for the masses. 99% of the ones who are RLs have access to the real info anytime they care to look. And if the solution for that is to tell everyone complaining to stop spending and go away.... 🤣🤣

[short patio]

i missed the battle calculator.. only need tent fights to prove the data is consistent.. you can literally know if you'll win an attack or not..

[patent olive]

Trading Post Building

That part

[sage girder]

Let's avoid posting non-SOS games please.

If you feel the need to do so, DM people instead

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[patent olive]

Oh its still SoS related, when you check 3D mode

It reminds me the Hidden Treasure as Hidden Junk

[soft gulch]

💀

Are you having a Japanese/Korean a/c?

If yes please post some more shots inside of settlement.
Only these 2 countries have 3DInside the HQ

[solemn kraken]

what do you mean? the moving parts of the buildings (like when you train troops you see them playing on motorbikes or shooting) or the graphics on that building?

can't load the game right now (had no problems ten minutes ago, now it can't even retrieve the version info)

[stable cosmos]

Nah. There are a few versions of this game. Some are region specific, the south korean one has always had cheaper bundles although that might have been changed.

Some versions have fancier graphics. In this case the buildings in settlement are proper 3d models rather than prerendered sprites

[patent olive]

I remember State 1001 has 3D graphics, and even state 1069 I created long time ago

Some selected states got 3D and some are getting live stream feature

I guess @rain reef have 3D graphics too😅, since 1002 have it too

[stable cosmos]

That menu doesn't have the 3d option in most clients

Not that you're wrong. Just that there are "special" things out there

[patent olive]

I have 1069 account, now in state 667

[solemn kraken]

can you show an example of what 'prerendered sprites' are supposed to look like?

[patent olive]

Ah sadly my 1069 lost 3D mode since 2 years ago, when I did returner to state 999

[strong grove]

Yes

[solemn kraken]

is the busses due to 3d or the new graphics?

[real panther]

Do we get an answer on the dev feedback? Cant wait to get my toggle button for the new to old icons. How do we get updates on that?

[solemn kraken]

no word on if that will even happen

[wide wraith]

thats the old 3d graphics but they never put out to all states, 3D graphics have to be 2 or 3 years old

[strong grove]

Dev is a liar.

[wide wraith]

improvements???? when do they ever improve anything

[strong grove]

Nope