#📋︱feedback-discussion

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digital glacier
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Why only ask about one and not the other 🤷🤣

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And fair voucher do expire. Or are supposed to at least.

vale yoke
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Because he still had fair vouchers from the anniversary in September in his backpack and was curious?
Those vouchers may have been retained from Rewards Stash after the event had ended, and may/may not have auto recycled for some people.

It's a legit question IMHO

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They're supposed to convert to other stuff, but it doesn't always happen, as we all know

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Either because they were collected after the event ended, or because the devs gestures at game

west fog
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Except it doesn't...

cursive vessel
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It doesn't work, it gives an error code 🤣

knotty storm
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They forgot to implement the code for the spawn🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈

vale yoke
tiny quiver
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I just put in a suggestion…please vote on it… to many smaller alliances or those who’s members can’t be on at Nexus times can’t even complete the first checkpoint before it resets…if others in the same faction can help them maybe more players will be encouraged to participate …

vale yoke
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Error SoS

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Lemme look, Grandma. Also Moon_girl_hugs_Moon_cat

tiny quiver
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Hugs Liannin

vale yoke
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Upvoted. We're a small alliance too, and thankfully our faction is very patient with us. We are clearing one building a day and it's rough

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I'ma pass that along too

tiny quiver
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We have 2 in our group that only have 2-3 players online..it’s sad seeing them try knowing it’s just going to reset

lucid yew
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Couldnt neighbouring alliances technically declare on same building and do the work for you?

tiny quiver
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We encourage them but not being able to help…

vale yoke
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They can declare on the building, but then they get the rewards. I believe Grandma would wish that the initial alliance could declare, and other alliances offer help in reducing the durability. And then everyone can earn something, but the bulk of the rewards go to the alliance who declared.

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Would that be correct, Grandma?

lucid yew
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Yeah, bigger alliance could drop it to almost 0 and give it back to the small one, but thats a lot of goodwill with 3 declaration limit

vale yoke
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Sorry had to edit, I'm doing like five things at once lol

tiny quiver
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Yes if we could reduce the building to 85% then the small guys could finish up and gain some nexus points

lucid yew
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Wish we could besiege for allies freely or something

vale yoke
vale yoke
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I feel like besieging should require a war dec, but helping like we are outlining shouldn't use a war dec but should have a limited percentage of durability the faction help can give.

tiny quiver
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Then more smaller alliances would join in the game play..with a few rewards they would get ahead and maybe more would join…

lucid yew
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Did everyone get a 2 v 2 nexus this time btw instead of 1 v 1 + a couple "helper" alliances like last time

tiny quiver
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We got 2 ok on our side plus the 2 smallers..other side not sure seeing as they are hitting each other

vale yoke
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To speak on behalf of some of the larger or mid sized alliances, we also need to make sure the event is achievable and engaging, and no one is being taken advantage of. It may be too easy to just default to smaller declaring on buildings and then bigs reducing to a certain level, just as a way of gaining territory for the faction.
It's a tactical method of gaining places, but then does create an environment where the smalls are essentially using the big as a crutch to lean on, and the bigs may be using the smalls similarly to hold territory easier without engaging as heavily.

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Then the event isn't fun in a completely different way

tiny quiver
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I think if it was restricted to the first 1/2 of the event that should not be an issue

lucid yew
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Of course some big ones would try to force all the little ones to hold all lvl 3 etc

tiny quiver
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Just so they could gain the first #2 city and not anymore

west fog
wide wraith
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tactics and strategy come into play if the rest of the faction are in agreement

cursive vessel
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I dunno, mine brings up a customer along with an error code 😅
But it's sos so nothing is surprising

vale yoke
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I think allowing them to get to checkpoint 2 is achievable because then there is still some of the strategy there to use each other mutually, but it's limited to also allow for pvp and more active play later on.

tiny quiver
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If the help could be restricted to 1st checkpoint and lv2 city’s it would give some but not effect the bigger part of the game

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We need to encourage more players not discourage them…

wide wraith
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how about they made it so the faction acts like a SVS super alliance

vale yoke
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Yoooooo

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I'd love that

wide wraith
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by that i mean we could all help where needed

vale yoke
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That would help so much with merits and badges too

west fog
vale yoke
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Why does this chocolate smell weird?

solemn kraken
west fog
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It's from Harry Potter's favorite candy store.

lucid yew
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It would be funny if it was like mega, so much speeding around the map into garrisons everywhere

west fog
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They also have candy that tastes like puke.

vale yoke
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I'll just have some acid pops, a couple fizzing whizbies, and some of those sugar quills. OH! And a chocolate frog.

tiny quiver
vale yoke
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I blame Dumbledore

rocky otter
west fog
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I just saw the movie about young Dumbledore. He almost looks like a very old Jude Law.

wide wraith
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wait till you have the latest gen lol and get states who are 400 or 600 lower than you

lucid yew
rocky otter
lucid yew
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Yeah, it sucks. We had 2 completely not showing last time and the enemy got both stronger support alliances too

rocky otter
digital glacier
# vale yoke Upvoted. We're a small alliance too, and thankfully our faction is very patient ...

Our faction ain't. We'll, mostly just 1 alliance hates us. 🤣

There's a beautiful conversation over how the strongest alliance effed up. And how they think they did nothing wrong.
they think we're crybabies and should have contacted them to negotiate buildings 🤣
They shared 5 buildings. None of which we had any reason to negotiate with. But they took another they didn't share. And it's not the fact they took many buildings, it's that, there was others with the same points value they could have taken.
So not only we fighting enemy but also our own faction because they're idiots with a credit card

digital glacier
vale yoke
digital glacier
# lucid yew Couldnt neighbouring alliances technically declare on same building and do the w...

So here's the thing with that a lot of people don't understand.
Whale alliances are greedy and want rewards.
First occupation gives much rewards, more in comparison than a team victory.
But team victory rewards are substantially better points wise for events than first occupy rewards.

99.99999999% of whale alliances don't want do do any work for 0 rewards. So they take the building, and then later abandon it.
Thus, dropping their teams score. 🤣

Where as.
A small alliance could do 51% of the damage to a building, (this will take some time to do so it's best they go first) then the Whale alliance could declare war in it and deal the remaining 49% damage to the building. (they'll destroy it fast, hence why small did damage first, it ensures there is enough power to destroy it before the end of the event)

So, the small alliance now has points that will pretty much be permanently be held onto by their faction.
Thus giving their team a better fighting chance at a team victory

But whales don't understand this concept.
They're all about themselves.
They only know how to look out for themselves and the stronger ones in their alliance, and maybe some weak ones too. But the Incredible vast majority don't understand cooperating with a vastly weaker alliance. Thus, whale alliances tend to have more stress when fighting for their faction when competing against the opposing faction for a high scoring building 🤣

digital glacier
# vale yoke RMS has really good luck with cool people in our factions. Our last faction was ...

Last nexus. Our faction cheered us on and some defended comments about our small stature but will to succeed.

The enemy however, didn't care for badges, they had greedy whales who practically burned everyone. Screwing tons of their own players from getting badges 🤣 so I found that quite hilarious.
I offered to help, but the whale burn me when helping so I didn't move any of my alts from the safe zone 🤣 82,000,000 troops they lost points from killing 🤣

lucid yew
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Ig thats one way to do it

digital glacier
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YUP. and when that happens.
You know what those burned players should do......
Abandon all their buildings on the final day. To help get a team faction loss 🤣

lucid yew
digital glacier
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It's like... All stars for baseball.
Many players from many different teams in national league, make national league team.
We might be competing teams in the regular season, but for this, we're allies.....
You don't go break the pitchers arm just cause he's from a different team in the regular season..... 🤷

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So.... If they "broke my arm" well, might as well help the enemy team 🤷

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Tells strategy on final day in the nexus chat for enemy to see.
Abandoned all buildings to drop score 🤣
Jump to enemy area, put non resonated - resonating heroes on wall - easier to get burned with whatever troops you do have left 🤣

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Yeah.... Im an ahole like that. But then again.
Cause and effect

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🤔 My introduction might just change 🤦
No linger gonna be
Hi, I'm mufasa, I'm an ahole.
It gonna be.
Hi, I'm mufasa, I'm cause and effect. 🤣

cursive vessel
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We get to play candy crush with our pets soon 😂

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Oh wait I mentioned another game 🙊

west fog
digital glacier
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There's a few good things about nexus, but mostly bad 😭😭😭
I didn't sign up for rr cause there's just so much going on in game and I was in nexus and the event tab was greyed out and locked 😭😭😭

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First time in many many months I forget what day it was and not sign up for rr 😭

west fog
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That's also not exactly encouraging 😂

west fog
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May I ask what Wild Run even exists for? For this?

cursive vessel
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Can upgrade the snowman 😅

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And if you do well, you get a sticker 😂

west fog
cursive vessel
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😂😂

west fog
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Please just remind me once a week, I'm still playing a game about the Zombie Apocalypse, right?

cursive vessel
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Apparently..

solemn kraken
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wait, is that what we are playing?

west fog
cloud ridge
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But you get sticker!

west fog
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I even don't care about stickers anymore, and that was were i had my ancient collector go wild. SipCoffee

cloud ridge
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Snowman is useful but more useful for leads

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Stickers on other hand can annoy the whales who try to burn you so good for emotional damage

cursive vessel
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I haven't managed to get enough pieces to upgrade 1 part of the snowman, let alone 3 parts 😂

west fog
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Where to even see that sticker that you'll get?

vale yoke
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Stickers... Giggle

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I'm looking at the Christmas store like, "ohhhhhh... Yeah okay, gotcha." 2025 is gonna be a trip lol

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Strap in, everyone!

west fog
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Got my strappers ready

spark kindle
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What sticker

vale yoke
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The ones from Wild Run.

west fog
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They say you'll get a sticker in Wild Run somewhere somehow

vale yoke
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I love the stoic cat lol

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All three of my accounts did well I guess

spark kindle
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My level of interest in 163378474 mini events: didn't even realise there was a sticker

cursive vessel
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Think it was top 50? Might be 20 or 40 or some other random number.
But it's in a crate in your backpack if you got one

west fog
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Ah found it. Through ranking rewards...

vale yoke
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The foot freaked me out the first time it came down. I was like WHAT WAS THAT

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Then had concerns about whomever put a giant foot on the screen lol

west fog
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51... no box for me... still not bad for absolutely not caring.

tardy night
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Be good if they fixed the event on PC rather than devise rewards for 2% playing the damn thing

cursive vessel
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The foot squashed me once 😂😂

vale yoke
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It got me too! Lol

west fog
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Like God's foot from Pythons?

vale yoke
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Yes

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But zombie

west fog
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Guess I didn't go far enough

vale yoke
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It comes down when you get far enough and you have to avoid it

west fog
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And again. High five

tardy night
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Think my highest score was 8k. Pc controls are so wack can't steer in any direction.

How did they break what worked perfectly in resident evil collab

vale yoke
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Plus you had to also be able to click boost and then navigate.

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Harder on PC

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I would assume

tardy night
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Couldn't steer at all.

vale yoke
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Oof

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Brb gotta work for a sec.

west fog
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I only realized there was a boost at the end of my very last try

tardy night
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Someone dropped a feedback about it. Won't get anywhere probably

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Give an event, make it unplayable for what...25% of players?

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It was funny cuz the game doesn't recognise clicks to steer either. Click all you want the vehicle simply doesn't respond

vale yoke
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Upvoted in solidarity.

Considering how much the devs have openly mentioned and promoted playing on PC, something like that really reduces the desire for people to even care. It reflects really poorly for anything they would also develop as a PC title - would things in that have issues with basic navigation?

Hopefully it's addressed.

thorny plume
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I am willing to explain that one. Once you start understanding you see good opportunities to legally abuse certain mechanics that is in play.

The 1 percent is avarage, and they use the pity method, i just recently learned this from a , i kind fellow in here... I knew it was something but not just how bad it is.
Smaller bases have quite alot better odds of getting certain low percentage drops. And spenders are nerfed by the algorithm. So it avarages out to 1 percent.

I.e my alts get to 40 for free sometimes in jungle gems.
They all have better odds of doing good ascensions. I made alot Tempest alts and just in a week i can more often then not ascend good rares.
You see it in loot box openings. I have gotten that sotf skin on a alt. Same alt also got a couple from operation festival. Main never, not ever.
You see it in migo chip searches. My alts can get 15-18 hero shards a week, main can go a week without seeing a single one.
I got 2 Angelica chests from Christmas event on a alt not many spins, main pushed in jungle gems.
Alt also got all the goodies.

And its the same thing all over.

But once you know this you will also see a opportunity to exploit. Theres a way to get good from just knowing this without me going into detail 🤷

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We dont want to discuss detail about this. Just let them think they scamming us and then do a uno reverse

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Ive seen this now and thriving in the opportunity

vale yoke
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"it's not an exploit, it's a mechanic"

thorny plume
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It actually is

vale yoke
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I know lol

thorny plume
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Its just beeing smarter

vale yoke
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I've known for ages

thorny plume
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They keep trying to get us, but we certainly get em back

vale yoke
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smiles in f2p

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I just don't care for having a gazillion alts and am inherently lazy. Also, my guidance counselor once told me I have a problem with authority figures and I told him to- uh. I disagreed.

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But for someone with some time and gumption?

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Have a blast

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Deleting what? 8988sipquietly

thorny plume
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The info

vale yoke
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What info?

thorny plume
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Well your right what info

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🤷 but it doesnt require very much is what im surprised by

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Im ser for 3-4 rounds of Pearl shops work each of them

vale yoke
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Very nice

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Also, I'm glad you caught on lol

thorny plume
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😂 took some time

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I did well just trading gear

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Total spending is maybe 100

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To start off

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But i think they profit well just on the sale taxes because its a natural market faucet and they profit on having a active market

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They arent dumb, they know

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They just follow the money

pallid willow
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Anyone else didn't receive these for the abyssal roulette? With this and the pass stuff should have 9

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But have 6 🤔

thorny plume
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For them its a win win win since that means spenders have to spend more and spenders also spend on market coins. And they also have a small sink with the coins. Since 10 percent goes quickly twice in a day when you move gear around

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Just this week ive paid i think 9000 in tax

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15000 in another 4 hours from now. So they profit as that keeps the market having to refill. But enough about that. Just explains why things are like they are

digital glacier
tardy night
pallid willow
soft gulch
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🤪 🥺 😠

cloud ridge
vale yoke
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giggles

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Yeah Chek lol

tardy night
vale yoke
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It's these little moments, I just love em.

thorny plume
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I honestly dont know.

tardy night
vale yoke
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Teehee

thorny plume
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Hmmm. They get more fair marching?

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Or less fair

vale yoke
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You have no idea, I just started doing a little dance like "ohhhh hehehehe"

thorny plume
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I think we get bad matching, we not big but we always get monsters

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Oh then i know 😂

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We get abused quite often, but periods we have winning streaks

vale yoke
thorny plume
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And yes matchmaking is terrible. But in Nexus we had two rounds last time. One round er were the obviusly seeded winner and in other we were cannon fodder

vale yoke
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Now who in their right mind would do that, Chek?

thorny plume
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Og h that went away

vale yoke
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Lol

thorny plume
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Wanna rewrite that escape

tardy night
vale yoke
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Eyes on the prize, Chief!

thorny plume
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Most of us have quit spending

vale yoke
thorny plume
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Im way way less spend now

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Alot have quit etc its chased people away

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But right now i found a way to abuse s little in return and getting good stuff makes me happy

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Can fullt cover with good statted MoF and MoS III and IV so atleast in getting crumbs

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Crumbs makes me happy so its win win

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Clever design tbh

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Its like when McDonalds sometimes accidently adds a double fry to fat folks

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Thats how you keep em coming back

vale yoke
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Doesn't Five Guys do that? An "accidental" fry or onion ring or something? And it works.

thorny plume
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Yes McDonalds too

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Its kind of the same thing

vale yoke
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And hey, as long as players feel like they're getting one over on the game team, it doesn't really matter that it's coded that way, does it?

thorny plume
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Its like accidently dropping 100 needles

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Well in my brain i know. I just wanna enjoy myself and it gives brain happy and even tough ive cut my spending significantly i still spend a little

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They clever

vale yoke
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I, too, enjoy dopamine.

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Being completely serious

west fog
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On the other hand, it's Abysmal Treasures this time

thorny plume
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😂 but im skipping this anniversary because of the bad jungle gems start. Not spending to fill up Angelica or get a Selena so i bought a bag of green burnable stuff and a nintendo Switch today. Their loss

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Ill still get my dopamine

vale yoke
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It's like that cooking lady on TV who says "if you don't have your own, store bought is okay". Ma'am, that speaks to my little dopamine-deficient soul.

thorny plume
tardy night
west fog
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Can green plasma be used again later after plasma development is done? It can't in plasma polymerization

west fog
cloud ridge
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Give me all the gems

stable cosmos
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Hospital in nexus is broken. Cannot scroll to the bottom and remove the t6s etc from healing, it just auto scrolls back to top

west fog
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That's like saying "live up to 500 years" in this special case...

stable cosmos
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Also. Becca on an hq attack can REALLY get f----- if she's gonna make the game crash

west fog
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I've calculated a 31% chance that the word is 'forest'

tardy night
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Fawkes.

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Like giy fawkes

digital glacier
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100% chance this guy @tardy night don't enable the joke started 🤣

tame jackal
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First stage: 1000
Second stage: 2000
Third stage: 8000 🤡

kindred plaza
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For the nexus thing for small players I think a good solution is to change the durability values respective to each level

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Has anyone suggested quick intel? Like the helps button. So we don’t have to keep waiting around and assign things for our intel?

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If not I’ll suggest

slate fossil
stable cosmos
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Too much incentive to zero weaker players and take them out of playing the game. No other game I've ever played has been about preventing you playing. Lose sure, but not stopping you part way through while continuing gameplay in your absence

west fog
spark kindle
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No you can't use green plasma for anything else but t11

west fog
west fog
spark kindle
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Forget they exist like the rest of the junk in your backpack

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I think I still have stuff from a few years ago, from events I don't even remember

west fog
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Feared it...

spark kindle
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I hope you didn't convert too much 🥲

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Oh well, even if you did, don't worry about it, plasma is very easy to accumulate

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What did you say to get bot hammer 😂

west fog
spark kindle
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Are you in a young state

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It gets easier as the state gets older

west fog
spark kindle
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Yes this server is super family friendly, that's why I get weird messages and friend requests the moment I open my mouth in a channel 😂

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It's probably because of the name of the emoji, moderation bots are set to auto delete black listed words

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Which is a necessity btw

west fog
spark kindle
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Transfer to an old state, problem solved 😌

west fog
spark kindle
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😂😂😂

west fog
spark kindle
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Soon all states will be one giant transfer pool with these gen skips

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So don't you worry

tardy night
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Hyperinflation guaranteed result

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Maybe the whale might be happy. Game will be worse off for it.

spark kindle
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I play in a two digit ancient state. We were talking about plasma accumulation and that's quite easy here

west fog
spark kindle
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Idk, people are weird I suppose

tardy night
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Be caustic. No requests ever ChickHeart2

spark kindle
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😂😂 Makes sense

west fog
spark kindle
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I am not sure if I should be offended that you had to consult your AI assistant to decide that I am indeed a woman 😂 but okay Catastrophe_SadThumbsUp

west fog
spark kindle
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😂 It's okay, I'm just joking

west fog
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So am I 😸

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Joking is most fun if both sides play a role catsmile

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At least to me

tardy night
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Dane is the straight...man in the role? 🤣

west fog
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Problem is that I'm best in playing dumb... and afterwards people are hard to convince that it's just a role on purpose 😂

spark kindle
west fog
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I mean why not? We're finally over gender roles, so everyone can be anything.

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Take Maddie for example. She's trying to be someone else in every single pic we get of her on here.

stable cosmos
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Not convinced maddie is human at this point.

tepid rivet
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I got put to place today because I used gender neutral language in an email.
Speaking about that, when will we have a drag queen as hero? I admire those people's legs and maybe I am also a bit jealous. Currently we're only addressing the male audience with selectively dressed female heroes

west fog
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Well... shocked_froggie

cloud ridge
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Cat suit verison

spark kindle
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Not even a relevant hero and also quite meh

west fog
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How is hero relevance relevant regarding the topic at hand? 😂

spark kindle
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I think this is the best thing about having a gender neutral language, we don't have pronoun drama

spark kindle
west fog
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Oh, that's what you mean. The target audience got a whole bunch of theme defying stuff over the years, isn't that enough? And I'm sure unicorns will also be added soon. And a goat.

spark kindle
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Well, regarding the topic at hand, the right thing to do is to stop over sexualisation of hero designs for both genders.

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I don't expect them to design a proper hero for the female gaze anyway

west fog
coarse blaze
west fog
coarse blaze
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Exp T-x

west fog
coarse blaze
west fog
coarse blaze
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😳

stable cosmos
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Many of the male heroes follow pretty traditional "hot guy" tropes, they'rejust not very scantily dressed as the lady ones are. So what I'm hearing is we need an olympic swimmer in speedos carrying a spear gun

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Otherwise all you get is rusty in his sleeveless vest

west fog
coarse blaze
west fog
west fog
stable cosmos
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Observation
All the female heroes are scantily dressed and over sexualised. The male heroes in comparison only display a tough guy image.

Consequence
Game is very sexist and cpuld be more inclusive

Suggested solution
More scantily clad dudes. Preferably in skin tight clothes and without shirts. More tomboy women. Also some elves and gnomes and bird people.

west fog
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Besides the could in Consequence

stable cosmos
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Even the elves gnomes and bird people?

coarse blaze
stable cosmos
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My phone keyboard likes f------ with me, i ignore tiny typos now, takes too long to fix

west fog
stable cosmos
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The game itself isn't serious about this anyway. Got a trex and an electronic eagle

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And mutant turtles

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Don't see the addition of donald duck being a real problem except for disney. As a bonus, he's a male character with no pants on

west fog
tidal oxide
stable cosmos
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Speedos is my translation for the rest of the world. Not sure how widespread budgiesmugglers is

tardy night
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Was their attempt at inclusivity I reckon. Without all the hoopla around it by explicitly identifying it

stable cosmos
tidal oxide
west fog
tidal oxide
tardy night
tidal oxide
west fog
stable cosmos
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We don't have a sheep statue already?

tidal oxide
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We have too many damn statues, must have a sheep in their

west fog
tidal oxide
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😂😂😂he needs tweaking

vale yoke
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I want a goat.

west fog
west fog
west fog
west fog
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A: Alright guys, we need some serious tweaking on Chef's model for the upcoming alliance hall as he will be seen rather close. More polys, new highres textures... you know the drill.
B: takes note serious twearking on Chef
C: compiles meeting notes serious twerking on Chef
Result:

winter echo
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Those are dance competition moves. 😂 10/10

west fog
winter echo
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If you think the Heros’ dance moves could be better, we can put in some feedback for that.

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They do make me laugh. 🙈

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Be nice if we had some different dance steps we could choose from. Mix it up a little bit.

west fog
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Ready for writing a feedback about adding fart noises to Groove Gala?

graceful drum
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It made me laugh too. If it was try not to laugh challenge I'd probably be the first one to fail😂

winter echo
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Unicorns have been requested. It’s not inappropriate. Definitely funny. We can give it a try if you’d like.

west fog
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Let me think a... nah 😂

winter echo
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I get it. 😂

distant gull
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Is there any chance to swap wolf to other pets?

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It's really annoying when F2P opened box and ended up grey wolf

soft gulch
tidal oxide
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You just can’t raise the tier without spending

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Hold onto him one day they may have a swap section 🤦🏼‍♀️

soft gulch
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each pet type has their own gene capsule

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biscuit is common for all

violet aspen
#

Does anyone have matching time issue in events? Possible developer to create a log on which r4 make changes on events schedule? Can't tell it is sos issue or r4 issue

stable cosmos
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Everyone has matching time issues in this game. You can pick 3/4 and get the one you didn't pick.

tardy night
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Nah, its definitely sabotaging by the r4. The game tries it's hardest to always give you the exact time you always want. BlushFrog

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Consider zeroing the r4 repeatedly till they confess to it.

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<all of them>

vale yoke
soft gulch
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SOS cant math. Zero > 4

zealous scroll
zealous scroll
visual frigate
tardy night
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Count least kills where kills >0

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Logic implemented

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They didn't put down an =. Don't ask why. shocked_froggie

tidal oxide
tidal oxide
tidal oxide
violet aspen
tidal oxide
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Our time was changed while we all slept?
No one had logged on?
Very strange

tardy night
#

Gotta look at schedule of Apex SR to see how their scheduling works.

25-35-40 -0

When they advertised 4 slots. You will be rescheduled if another game demands that server slot.

violet aspen
tidal oxide
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🫣😂😂

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It wasn’t me 😇 😬😂😂

soft gulch
#

Dog as in Labrador genes?

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tf?

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Then why not Sand cat be raised with Tiger gene caps?

north igloo
#

crank n jack bug, cant use the free hammer i got from event

stable anvil
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If you have 6 that wont cover the cost for a single hit.

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I think many people know by now it takes 10 hammers to crack 1 egg, always has been 10 hammer not more not less

stable cosmos
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Cracknjack is a waste of time f2p. Unless you jackpot your one chance you don't get enough to buy anything

soft gulch
solemn kraken
#

'alliance ladder'? 'milestone ladder'? what are those when they are not at home smoking kippers?

soft gulch
#

Milestone Ladder:

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ah thinks this is mah vocab that creates confusion here...does it?

solemn kraken
#

wait, you have smash eggs to be able to smash eggs?

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no idea where to find the Alliance Ladder

soft gulch
tame oxide
#

almost nobody plays this

soft gulch
harsh owl
#

Anyone have a *general * idea how many statues F2P might be able to get out of Twinkling Joy?

soft gulch
wide wraith
#

would rather have jungle jems than any of the other junk

harsh owl
soft gulch
# harsh owl These three right here.

Ah well. I am going for Ang space frags, will buy those statues only if I am having spare tix at athe end.

Again, one thing in this event is clear, Promotion rewards ladder is having better rewards than Revenue and Deco ladders.

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if you get those statues earlier it helps with evenue and deco ladder. but not promotion ladder

wide wraith
#

thats if you can go higher f2p

soft gulch
#

Also, if you are slightly better in stats.
you can score 240 tix and 240 pearls every day only with trucks, getting home 4 and hitting 4, you can also have a weak alt in state which you can hit for these goodies.

With 17 days to go, thats 4000 event tix and pearls free!

wide wraith
#

is on 1179 promotion points and stuck there

harsh owl
cloud ridge
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Unless a whale gonna be a hard task, I tend to send my better trucks late as possible so most have no attacks left by then

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Even when doing that my usual stalkers always find me 😏

harsh owl
# cloud ridge Unless a whale gonna be a hard task, I tend to send my better trucks late as pos...

I didn't want to give away the secret sauce but yes lol, I send the first 2 fairly late when I think most have exhausted their 4 attempts and then the other 2 when they'll arrive right before reset or 15-30 minutes after.

That's been working out pretty well. I feel you on the stalkers. Hit two different alliance trucks a few weeks back and it was like they had their entire alliances looking for me 😂

Very few trucks made it home safely during that period

soft gulch
#

This thing is prolly biggest scam in SoS pulled on whales.
Stat -wise this is absolutely crap. If you get it to Level 10, it will give 1.5% HFD, not long ago they sold it for 50$ and then 20$.

cloud ridge
#

Luckily the whales also have a habit of hitting any level trucks, we've had green trucks been hit by them in past for god knows why reasons

cloud ridge
#

I wouldn't mind having the sauron tower though

soft gulch
vale yoke
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I was gonna say the same. So many Lotr references I could be making...

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But also, that's how devaluation works. It's economics. Even if it's just digital goods with no actual value, they get devalued over time.

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It is crap, but does someone who wants any benefit they can get actually care? Probably not.

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Wax poetic all day about the silliness of the aesthetics, please, I'll probably join in here and there, but also understand that some people just don't care. They see it, and they don't care.

visual frigate
soft gulch
#

but I'd like if they do

vale yoke
#

So would I, my friend, so would I

#

Unfortunately, this sense of a lack of concern isn't just here. You can wander into a lot of communities and see people shrugging and saying "welcome to [title], this is how it is."
And in a lot of those cases, just like here, it's not even weaponized apathy. It isn't people being aggressive about it.
It's tired. It's bone-deep, soul-weary exhaustion, because it's everywhere and most of us still remember when gaming felt legitimately fulfilling.

#

We remember when development teams listened, before big names were picking up indie companies just to hollow out the teams and consolidate the name. Before brand IP and collaborations became the norm to generate revenue, because game teams were actively investing in their own employees talents and not just churning out people from campuses where they're taught to do the same things as those who came before them.

I think, sometimes, that's why the choices we see and all the changes sting so badly,, because most of us remember when gaming was actually fun, and not a full time job to buy shiny statues.

#

Lemme tear down my soapbox now, I'm sure we could use the wood.

solemn kraken
soft gulch
#

I made an a/c in 1350 last week, happened to be latest state in SoS. I saw people giggling around the newly acquired trinkets. The 3rd world problems. State chat was lively., ocassional calls of zeroing someone cuz T1 army is ready, lmao.

Felt they are far more content.

But I dont know if I would go back to that game. A 6 months grind just to have purple gears and pink tree MIGO HQ skin.

vale yoke
#

Yeah, I've thought about starting an account in a new state, and I always joke that I like myself too much, but the reality is that I don't want to contribute to the new account metric, or the grind metric, or any of the others in later servers where some of the players don't even have the same level of "support" we do because the game they downloaded was a portal game for SoS and not the actual title.

solemn kraken
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don't need to make a new account, can have two characters per state

vale yoke
#

I think the context may have passed you by, Hun. We are discussing being older players and beginning a new account in a new state, meaning a new character in a new server, as it relates to our opinions regarding the virtual economics of decorations and the overarching sense of dissatisfaction with the direction of the game and the gaming industry overall.

#📋︱feedback-discussion message

That's where it starts, if you'd like to contribute further. Otherwise, we know you can only have two characters per state per binding, and the term "account" in this conversation is used interchangeably with "characters" as a common player verbiage.

solemn kraken
#

it's still a new character, starting at lvl 1, just doesn't have to be a new account

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you think ah'm the onyl one who will come in and see that and think you have to make an entirely new account?

vale yoke
#

Again, I think you've misunderstood the conversation, or perhaps you're getting caught up in the term "account", but as I explained, the term is being used interchangeably here to mean a character profile.

I have four accounts in one state, or rather, four characters and two accounts.

solemn kraken
#

okay, no longer need to read nonsense like this, bye bye

vale yoke
#

Okay? Well, have a great day, Hun Chou Moon_girl_hugs_Moon_cat

cloud ridge
soft gulch
vale yoke
mighty gorge
#

Amusing

fresh raptor
soft gulch
#

And is that [1120][SXY] ?

fresh raptor
#

Your definition of slightly better makes me curious

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…no

stable anvil
stable anvil
# soft gulch what red dot?

Your feedback mentions to add a red dot to show that cooldown is over and that it is ready to use, but that itself is the answer of you dont have the supposed talent unlock then why would their be a cooldown timer at all.

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If you have talent switch its not that hard to use 15 to 20 sec to switch back and forth and know of its not done yet.

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We dont need to make something more difficult then it already is

soft gulch
stable anvil
#

I just tagged you in that manner than type out your name

soft gulch
# stable anvil Your feedback mentions to add a red dot to show that cooldown is over and that i...

Coming to this, please read the feedback, slowly.
There are two issues.

  1. Status of skill on cooldown isn't known to player, when they switch to other talent. than it is assigned on.
    It went to cooldown, because you used it, your curent set may not have it mastered, but its on cooldown, so if you know its status correctly. You can "master" it again.

  2. Red dot is good for skills acquired from MIGO, like random Bios, random march speeds, insta recruitment or insta recruitment from T12 research.

Dont worry, 1 extra red dot isnt going to make your eyes bleed out.

cloud ridge
#

Be harder to make work, but I'd prefer either they we're auto used or we ditch the 24h and make it 1 per day

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So, I could set my claim march accels, troops, bios etc to be used automatically each time 24h cooldown is done, but for like emergency dressing, massive march etc I could set those as manually enabled

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Orrrrrr

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Cause I hate 24h things with a passion

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Just make it usable once per day at any point

solemn kraken
#

ah like 20h timers: gives you a little leeway on when it becomes available again, instead of it continuously getting further and further, depending on when you activated it

soft gulch
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I like 1 per day(time between 2 resets), work for most of them, Massive march can be twice per day

coarse verge
solemn kraken
#

not strange at all: they just don't want their trucks hit

solemn kraken
#

actually, they were specifying the Christmas trucks not be hit

coarse verge
#

We had the same discussion last event , when he complained of two many free pearls

solemn kraken
#

or at least, not to lose the most important cargo

coarse verge
#

Most people answer for F2P are actually not F2P , Liannin made this clear once

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My F2P farm get hit 4 times and hit others 4 times

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And it is not a weak farm 😂

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I am obsessed about it

solemn kraken
#

ah haven't hit anyone in years, and haven't paid for longer

coarse verge
#

I even share them sometimes in state so people hit

coarse verge
#

Saved everything you won

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Then you can get one by end of second stage

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That means you are saving

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Never missed a single Jungle gem

vale yoke
#

What did I do?

coarse verge
#

And if you have no life

coarse verge
vale yoke
#

Aww

coarse verge
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You made me understand that F2P is not what most people think

vale yoke
#

F2p means a bunch of different things

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It's changeable

coarse verge
#

Exactly

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You made me understand that completely

vale yoke
#

Nowadays, when someone says they're f2p, I'm like "so are you full f2p, 2nd construct, only a tenner a week... Like what kind of f2p?"

coarse verge
#

F2P in a whale alliance is not a F2P in F2P alliance

vale yoke
#

And that TOO

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I'm a casual alliance leader. Like. Casual

solemn kraken
#

ah did manage to get the Gearwalker on mah second character, first missed out 😦

coarse verge
#

@harsh owl I answered that because I tested the event in test state no additional factors, just 1 week vacation and no social interaction

vale yoke
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As in "yeah we have Raid this weekend but like, if you guys have stuff going on, that's cool. I'ma still be there with me, myself, and I, so feel free to get weird with me" casual

coarse verge
#

😂

coarse verge
vale yoke
#

My f2p account - actual f2p - and the f2p of someone who is in a super active, more highly ranked, active alliance look very different

coarse verge
#

Other small statues after stage 4 require more for upgrades

soft gulch
vale yoke
#

And that's not to say that player isn't also an f2p. It's just a different of scenario. But f2p isn't a blanket term meaning one thing

coarse verge
vale yoke
#

So when people speak for f2p, I wish they would speak for the wider scope of the term, and not one specific type which may or may not even exist in most cases.

coarse verge
#

And you edited it

vale yoke
#

Something for an f2p in one space isn't always ideal for one in another

soft gulch
coarse verge
#

And I am not here to argue

harsh owl
coarse verge
#

3 K and I used 170 megaphones In each phase
And I cleared fair token fair chance in first stage

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That was the maximum I could horde from jungle gem

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And mining tycoon

solemn kraken
#

megaphones get recycled at the end of the stages or the event?

coarse verge
#

So I only used what gives me more megaphone and save the rest

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I guess it was 100 milestone in megaphone fair chance

solemn kraken
#

might use a few more, usually only use the free chances

coarse verge
#

Keep in mind I didn’t hit trucks they add 120 / day but I added those already in calculation

solemn kraken
#

ah tried hitting a truck once, once, because even the weakest is about 100 times as strong

coarse verge
#

There are more lucky people who got few from the wheel

harsh owl
woeful hemlock
coarse verge
#

But using fair coins will affect his / her ability to upgrade shops

soft gulch
# coarse verge And I am not here to argue

I love to argue. But not to prove anyone wrong. But to represent my point clearly.
But sometimes, I sense that I am fighting some insane shiz here. Or may be my thoughts aren't conforming to trad way of thinking people have grown themselves into or may be they are utterly stupid.

But I am pretty sure, people dont read what is written, may be I should ask GPT to frame it better. I dont know, I just want the game to be better for myself and everyone.

coarse verge
#

I do understand what you mean now

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And you are totally correct, about utterly stupid part , and that is why I said I am not here to argue

west fog
vale yoke
#

Everyone friends again? Lol

#

Group hugs?

coarse verge
#

I mean anyone who thinks pearls are overflowing

vale yoke
harsh owl
#

Coins and vouchers are separate items. I bought one of the statues today with vouchers and my coins are untouched.

I'm probably missing it, but in the store I'm currently in there isn't even an option to convert coins to vouchers and the only currency it takes are vouchers.

Can you guide me to where I would have or could have used these coins for actual rewards?

What you don't want to do is use the coins to draw from the Fair Chance globe because then to your point that will impact what you have for building upgrades and as F2P you ain't going to make it but still that is separate from the vouchers that allows you to buy the statues from my SS.

coarse verge
vale yoke
#

The upgrades about to be expensiiiiive

coarse verge
#

In fair chance

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I think we both agreed on that

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Save coins

coarse verge
west fog
vale yoke
#

Not the statues, the buildings. You also use coins to upgrade your fair buildings and they're expensive after Stage 2

coarse verge
west fog
#

Because I don't care anymore about any tactics to get the most out of it that's still useless in comparison to spenders.
I'm not playing their hypnosis game anymore.

coarse verge
#

Share the popcorn 🍿

#

Good point

west fog
#

🍿

coarse verge
#

There is no gap anymore

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I mean F2P and whales are living in two separate worlds

#

The gap is not existent

woeful hemlock
#

f2p foreverMochi_drink

coarse verge
#

We are just having fun and getting more comfortable with being around

#

I did exactly the same feedbacks about trucks last event , now I don’t see it as a good feedback, because it is only affecting F2P , whale will still hit and win

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So hitting trucks is good

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The edit however is acceptable , let people keep all their things

soft gulch
#

Which edit are you talking about?

#

I might have corrected the spelling here and there, nothing major

harsh owl
# coarse verge The edit however is acceptable , let people keep all their things

We see it as unfair because we need those items to help us get items like the statues we were discussing earlier but F+ sees it as "business strategy", which BTW is their code for "predatory practices".

We're not supposed to get those items because they want us to buy bundles. Notice, our regular non event trucks when they're hit still give us a mix of some of the more sough after items, but not these events. Immediately it's the pearls, coins and vouchers.

I kinda have a big problem with that personally.

coarse verge
coarse verge
#

That is why I actually wrote the event but fun - will simply say don’t hit each other

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But again you said it predatory

soft gulch
coarse verge
#

And the rest of items are not worth it

harsh owl
coarse verge
#

Yeah , I don’t get to have all golden pets so I got them

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They are easier to upgrade once you release the daily blue bets

#

In 100 years but we are getting there

west fog
#

Wait until all those great pet related additions come from ptr. F2p will loose big time, because most don't have any real good pets to begin with.

harsh owl
soft gulch
coarse verge
west fog
#

Sorry, channeled Snoop for a second.

west fog
coarse verge
#

I am here because I Like my team and don’t mind a good laugh

tepid rivet
#

Once you think you're getting closer they release 82520 new features that make that one you're catching up with obsolete. Some things never change

soft gulch
#

I dont like Pets mech overall.

  1. Its like vehicles for heroes
  2. Skills aint really great
  3. Expensive to raise, new ones need their growith genes
  4. Linearity in stats, just like vehicles
  5. Its a moneyhat wrapped in golden tinfoil.
coarse verge
soft gulch
#

I like Gene Recombo.

  • Better stats than G3 Tempests
  • Skills are great but too random to catch
  • Much cheaper (deployment, get from compeltion capsule)
#

Loved this totally

west fog
# coarse verge I do pay from time to time if I want

Me too, but only for things that are virtually not related to any core gameplay, that are enclosed in itself so to say. Like I sometimes do for Feeding Frenzy to get a sticker that I'd like to have.
I've stopped spending into any upgrading though.

soft gulch
west fog
coarse verge
#

A frame

#

It doesn’t matter what I upgrade or not I will be crushed anyway, so I better look pretty

#

😂

west fog
coarse verge
#

I am waiting for 2 wings

coarse verge
#

And It will not be , but It is cool still

soft gulch
#

Everyone likes to look good in the game. No one wants to use Turkey bunker skin, they chanced upon.

west fog
coarse verge
#

Or tomato factory skin

vale yoke
#

I use ugly skins or base skin on purpose sometimes lol

coarse verge
#

That is an utter disgrace , tomato factory

vale yoke
coarse verge
vale yoke
#

Just in general, but particularly around pvp times

west fog
vale yoke
#

Other times, I'm like, "lemme dress for company"

coarse verge
west fog
coarse verge
west fog
#

🪷

#

That'll do

coarse verge
west fog
#

@soft gulch why a skull? 😂

coarse verge
#

So lets keep our fingers crossed

soft gulch
west fog
west fog
soft gulch
#

Hard to explain, "i am mildly stunned with your views, but it is what it is, your choice you world"...etc

west fog
#

Well, 2001 marks the start of a new life for me personally. And I always liked the movie - after the first half hour of ape screams.

#

You mean I can't see the year positively because something happened that supposedly changed the whole world forever?

tardy night
#

There was a fun meme going around.

Asking Americans to guess whether Osama or Brian Thompson killed more Americans.

#

No wars started yet peepothink

west fog
#

Let's not dive deeper into that. Wrong place.

cloud ridge
#

Luigi!

soft gulch
vale yoke
#

Blah blah #📖︱server_rules blah blah feedback blah blah before a mod comes, just pretend we covered the basics or whatever

#

So anyway, goat?

#

Speaking of skins we would have in game. A goat march skin?

west fog
#

😂

soft gulch
#

"Medicine for goat"

tardy night
vale yoke
#

It would be absolutely hilarious to watch a goat do a little prancey prance across the screen positively screaming as only goats do, and then BOOP! headbutt the target, and prance back all happily.

west fog
tardy night
#

This conversation serves no purpose anymore

west fog
vale yoke
#

Okay so... Bethesda physics.

#

Lol

west fog
#

They didn't invent it, but they perfected the derpiness.

vale yoke
#

Top tier

west fog
#

Creme de la derp

soft gulch
#

There is something I love.
Speed the marches which will take 10 mins normally to 1min or so, the behemoth start levitating.

its so satisfying....

west fog
#

I like them doing the moonwalk... sideways

soft gulch
#

yeah its kind a moonwalk..yeah totally. supe cute to look at.

vale yoke
#

I had the pirate ship skin on for a while and would start singing sea shanties every time it went sideways

coarse verge
west fog
#

And at least the pacific rim Behemoth i got likes to start running after having arrived fullspeed already.

spark kindle
#

I didn't know pirate ships could also drift

spark kindle
west fog
#

The ship was a mess during train escort missions... well most march skins were

vale yoke
#

It was impressive for sure. General Shiba Inu moved like he was in the Westminster Dog Show.

#

I was like "aww points for execution, but deductions for visual bugs"

#

Side note, since we are discussing the silliness we all get up to, does anyone else sing Thriller during Horde?

spark kindle
#

Do you still do horde

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I can't remember last time I actually played it

#

I send to hq if I remember

vale yoke
#

I do lol

west fog
spark kindle
#

But Thriller is the perfect soundtrack for it

#

I wish I could have thought about it during our two hour hordes

vale yoke
#

Only when the infected remember to march on the beat

#

They're horribly uncoordinated

coarse verge
#

I don’t do horde but I usually blame our R5 for not paying the rent and ask why lamborgini was chosen

spark kindle
#

Well, they're zombies

vale yoke
#

All left feet. Well, the ones who still have their feet.

west fog
coarse verge
#

I do try to rally the fiend still

spark kindle
#

Zombie virus eats the coordination part of your brain too

west fog
spark kindle
#

Zombies drive them

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Hence zero coordination

#

Our marches are probably due to bored heroes trying to drift

west fog
#

How they can even exist is maybe the more important question though

vale yoke
#

It's like, you know in Shaun of the Dead, how it was basically figured out that zombies would default to whatever their occupation or whatever was? It's like that. Those zombies driving cars were likely taxi drivers or some sort of transport/lorry service.

west fog
#

But how do those cars still function?

spark kindle
#

They might be modeled after cab drivers in Istanbul, I can see the resemblance

vale yoke
west fog
spark kindle
#

Like the cars in Flintstones

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I guess many are too young to remember that

vale yoke
#

I would assume the floorboards could have rotted out for feet power

#

For the ones who have feet

spark kindle
#

Exactly

vale yoke
#

Even two left ones

spark kindle
#

One right feet each

vale yoke
#

Or right feet, yes

#

They don't even have to be on the correct side, they just have to move

coarse verge
#

Who said that feedback discussion is useless , thank you ladies and gentlemen for the good time and laugh , Merry Christmas and happy New year All 🎄

vale yoke
spark kindle
#

To you as well, Dream hearties

west fog
vale yoke
#

If you consider what we're actually discussing, which is the display of marches in terms of the silliness of a lot of the stuff we see and how we cope with it using humor, then it does have value as feedback

spark kindle
#

I collected in total probably thousands of votes in feedbacks and how many have been implemented you might ask. I'll let you guess

vale yoke
#

That hit hard, dane. That hit really hard. Right in the thing I'm passing off as my soul today.

spark kindle
#

But we do try and I appreciate everyone who doesn't give up, including you Liannin hearties

vale yoke
#

You know I have nothing but the utmost respect and love for what you've tried to do, and I've learned a lot from what you've contributed here and on other servers.

spark kindle
#

It means a lot, thank you hearties

west fog
#

This almost reads like a farewell scene. It isn't though, right?

vale yoke
#

I don't think people tell others enough that the work you all have put in to educate, inform, and help players actually matters. You've been here for ages, and have always advocated for better. It hasn't gone unnoticed or unappreciated.

spark kindle
vale yoke
#

Same.

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And let people find out lol

west fog
spark kindle
#

And if one day they do, you'll find me hanging out with our cat crew 😌

coarse verge
#

Cat as in Catzilla?

spark kindle
#

In all seriousness, feedbacks are ignored or semi-implemented on occasion but I still think they do matter to an extent in terms of bringing community together and creating evidence for future

vale yoke
#

I 100% agree, dane.

coarse verge
#

I Love the discussion

#

And I learned alot

west fog
coarse verge
#

And I actually enjoy it , a part from silly comments from silly people thinking they own the world and no one else understands

spark kindle
coarse verge
spark kindle
west fog
spark kindle
#

You're not orange catting enough though

west fog
vale yoke
west fog
spark kindle
vale yoke
#

Especially everytime they archive a channel

spark kindle
west fog
spark kindle
# west fog How so?

Orange cats are known for their endless shenanigans, you seem to be behaving

west fog
vale yoke
#

Idk what kind of cat I'd be.

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Never thought about it

#

Prolly stray

spark kindle
#

I understand, I'm also smarter and funnier in turkish

spark kindle
vale yoke
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I'm my worst critic, so I'm over here like "prolly feral, missing part of an ear, has an unidentified odor..."

west fog
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Or it's because people don't get the pop culture references that I'm using, even though they're from US culture already

vale yoke
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You know in Pawsome when your cat gets beaten? That.

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Looking a whole mess

west fog
spark kindle
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Hahah thank you

spark kindle
vale yoke
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Brown.

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Lol

spark kindle
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Shhh nobody needs to know

tardy night
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It is rather fun to hear some say they're gathering our feedback. Once you know the time it actually takes to get everything. Lol

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And I'm somewhat sure they're not bothering with anything too advanced to filter through it all, unlike the data from in game spending patterns

spark kindle
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Well, they at least address it in dev feedback reports if you manage to get enough upvotes

stable cosmos
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Sometimes they don't address it at all, then you find out they did it.

I'm often worried about what they do address as things like "update prizes" are translated into "remove fortress fight" somehow

tardy night
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Ff should go. Piece of junk that hampers event scheduling on Friday

spark kindle
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Main motto here is this: don't change things people ask you to change and mess up things that people ask you to leave alone

stable cosmos
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I think i can confirm at this point that there is no AI on camp cafe and it is at least nominally read by a human as i didn't get any biocaps for never gonna give you up

spark kindle
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Fp probably didn't appreciate getting rickrolled

stable cosmos
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If it was AI word count woulda got me there. Won nothing so probably a schlub

west fog
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So everything we write here is read and forwarded, as is said in weekly compilation.
They just don't care about most of it if it's only useful for players.

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It's harder to accept, but it's also setting free more, as is said truth does

tardy night
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Someone definitely reading it all.

west fog
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That someone, not you 😸

tardy night
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Ye the meta game more interesting than the game.

The alliance we border in nexus is currently telling the combat morale of opponents to gauge who can defeat who. We are all ears Hugssss

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You got 200 morale, you will lose against xyz

This is a vip 14 player commenting.

stable cosmos
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Only sort of strategy you can use these days. Used to have more options

tardy night
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I haven't bothered to tell them yet that the opponents are overall stronger, more in numbers, and are predetermined winners for buildings barring a catastrophe.

That be a downer

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When 3 of them have done their 3rd building while no 1 among us has yet done their 2nd halfway through....

pallid willow
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They shouldn't allow whales to play pow.

west fog
pallid willow
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They should make 2 pows one for whales and one for normal players

cloud ridge
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They should make pow how it was at 1st release so we could all play on same field and come down to actual game sense

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It's fun when they have to nerf events cause whales too dumb to play and lose to farms

west fog
cloud ridge
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The inevitable no gap mcgapson

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I'd rather FP burn down than them release anymore trash

west fog
cloud ridge
static barn
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I know this has been brought up before, but have the devs replied to the glitch issues of the game yet? It’s been at least 2 months of the game being nearly unplayable. I have to close the app several times and re start for every time I log in. Trap is impossible, daily intel takes forever. Simple tasks like collecting rewards in events and opening my backpack is nightmarish. Everything is clogged and glitchy and only force closing and reopening helps for about 5 minutes then the cycle starts again. For the amount of money I have spent on this mobile game in 5 years I expect it to work as advertised.
And no need to send a report or feedback since NOTHING will come of it.

west fog
cloud ridge
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There are lots of glitches in games they ignore on purpose

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Which reminds me

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@feral sinew TOWER BUG!

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@Our actual CMs if we have any left

old oasis
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If there is continuing issues please do bring up again so that we can keep it up front and the upvotes continue to show us the spread of the issue.

cloud ridge
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It's been a non stop issues for i dno, like 6 months

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It's affecting more and more states and making some parts of map uninhabitable

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If you mean glitch with game in sense of lagging and whatnot, that's normal but does seem to happen to others more, usually i find them on PC and using sos launcher

old oasis
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Coming to your dm

cloud ridge
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Strap yourself in then 😅

old oasis
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Hehe

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We do read what you are saying

west fog
cloud ridge
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Cause it's a joke that lots of states literally can't build or port on certain parts of the map

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Even previously fine spots become bugged and happend in some players hives....

soft gulch
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@tidal apex @opal pilot

harsh owl
# soft gulch https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606/131701679349...

I'm not sure the trickery is how the leaderboards are decided but I never looked at the event from your POV. I'll look at it more closely.

The observation might be odd for a lot of players because isn't this how Survival Royale, POW or any event, even our core marches themselves, where you can assign marches work?

I've played opponents in Survival Royale that had their strongest characters as their 2nd or even 3rd march and that for sure catches you off guard but should they lose or be penalized because of march order? It's just a strategy that they decided works for them.

That logic, not saying you're wrong or right, might be what's earning you the downvotes on that feedback. Just my take after trying to make sense of the report.

cloud ridge
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It'll still boil down to the strongest will be fine, the weaker might climb up a spot higher than normal.

stable cosmos
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I would agree. Its a built in strategy and those who are willing to use it no matter when during the day are following something allowed by the game.

Immortal arena does suck, but not for what you're listing

cloud ridge
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But no drastic changes in rankings, a whales 3rd march will smash most 1st march alone

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Set march formation like in survival royal I'd see as fine, but there's times and i think it goes for lots we only win fights we should lose as we can switch marches before fighting

stable cosmos
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You'd think at bare minimum it could be tiered to HQ level or something....

cloud ridge
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If they however grouped it properly on other hand, have tiers of it so it's actually similar strengths then more have a chance of getting "decent" rewards

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Especially as gene stuff? I think is tied to top 10 is it or something

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Which is a whale only club

stable cosmos
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I mean, the top rewards really aren't worth it, but if it was tiered for strength, and you can't fake your hq level, it'd be half fair-ish sorta

cloud ridge
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It's still worthless rewards, but like apex I take free stuff over time, but it would give more a chance of getting better "bad" rewards.

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But for most part I get my 3 wins and dip

soft gulch
# harsh owl I'm not sure the trickery is how the leaderboards are decided but I never looked...

I think I have failed to understand the motive behind allowing players to reorder the marches on runtime.

The players who have Gen10 or above, are mostly sticking to keep all the heroes of same style in the specific marches. That makes me think March 1 and 2 are more of a stratergic style choice and one would like to pick which gives advantage in accordance with RPS. However, 1st march is where most of the mid players would put their best stuff on, Vehicles, Pets, Tempests, so its de facto most powerful march.
And your 3rd match is the weakest, it likely has no behemoth.

Which means in Apex your opponent likely put their weakest one against your strongest to take sureshot loss, but he has higher chances of wins against Opponent's second and third marches against my first and third.

This trickery makes the event even more menaingless. But if there was balancing done on points part, where player is given lesser points if they do that, may be the event would be slightly better match-up of testing strengths.

does it make sense?

digital glacier
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You can't pick your opponent

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It's designed to make whales spend more on marches 2 and 3 and survival book for 3 behemoths and 3 sets of tempest

stable cosmos
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It isn't a good solution. Someone uses a strategy, however much you dislike it, shouldn't disadvantage them.

digital glacier
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Sos has been taking away events and features and things for a very long time now that involve strategy.

vale yoke
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I'm confused about why reordering your marches strategically is a bad thing?

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Like.

stable cosmos
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They aren't using an exploit, or a bug, or anything thats actually unfair. You can do it too . If your feedback was "immortal arena sucks get rid of it" I'll upvote that

digital glacier
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They say it shouldn't be allowed. 🤷 Or should get a handicap basically.

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They're probably upset they lose to someone that their main march would otherwise beat.

vale yoke
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I'm sorry, but if I see I'm up against someone who could knock my block off, but I know I can do well by reordering my marches to counter theirs - as the countering system is supposed to work - then I shouldn't be penalized for playing strategically.

digital glacier
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😕

soft gulch
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I am sorry if I am not quote replying to all, bu I am reading, not to be ignoring or being disrespectful.

west fog
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this?

vale yoke
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If someone is ordering their marches with Control > Resilience > Berserk, and I choose Resilience > Berserk > Control, I shouldn't be penalized for playing the countering mechanics as they're supposed to be

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It's not unfair

digital glacier
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Exactly

vale yoke
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Those are literally the mechanics.

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That's how the system works

digital glacier
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You cannot pick your opponent.
So it's literally part of the purpose.
Its basically a very bad, "live teaching" tutorial event 🤣

stable cosmos
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Well, behaves. Works is a strong word to use about sos

vale yoke
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Fair lol

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That's how it behaves

digital glacier
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||We all know she is using the sos dictionary here 😝||

vale yoke
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Shh

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Don't tell my secrets

digital glacier
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You like what I did there 🤪

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Awwwwww. You gave me kisses 🥰

vale yoke
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Don't let it go to your head

digital glacier
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I'll leave before I ruin it 😄

soft gulch
stable cosmos
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Thats an sos lynchpin. Spend money for the 3rd behemoth.

cloud ridge
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Send 3rd march against their 1st 👀

digital glacier
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That's sos telling you to spend on 3rd Behemoth 😝

digital glacier
vale yoke
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So? The third march has no behemoth. So you work around it.

stable cosmos
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The thing is, every issue you have with what your opponents do, you can do as well the only one you sorta can't do is have that 3rd monkey, but if you lack 3rd monkey arena isn't for you anyway

digital glacier
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But that would mean you need 3 strong types of heroes. Because it could be any type without the behemoths.
That again is sos saying spend more money

vale yoke
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The event is only good for making people think they need to buy more, anyway

digital glacier
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Apex Arena + spend more money = immortal arena

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It's literally an upgrade of crap to bigger crap by spending more money to be the king of the crap hill

stable cosmos
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I would also accept feedback of get the f------ icons off my screen

vale yoke
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It's not that serious and idk why people are taking it like it is. The rewards are silly compared to the focus people are placing on it

stable cosmos
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Woo, 3 days of sparkle text!

vale yoke
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Oh boy I'ma write home to Pa

stable cosmos
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350 warrior currency, you're a whale that whole shop is useless

soft gulch
vale yoke
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I'll buy a sparkly gel pen at the store and not only will it be less of a financial investment, it will last longer.

digital glacier
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If i were top 3, maybe even top 5 in my state in terms of strength, ok sure, show me the icon.
But I'm no where near even the top 10 🤣
That icon can suck off the entire planet for all I care

stable cosmos
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That would be an acceptable compromise on the sodding iconm it shows if you're in the top 100. Which implies you're trying

digital glacier
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Wait, the icon only shows for people in the top 100?

vale yoke
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Eh?

digital glacier
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I thought for top 200, all participants?

vale yoke
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Dude, I see the stupid thing and I can't even play it

stable cosmos
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I see it without playing. I'd be ok with it only on screen for top 100 if they HAVE to code it in

digital glacier
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Rhetorical

stable cosmos
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Seems like "add icon to screen" is the test they give their new hires

digital glacier
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Well, I do appreciate the quick icon for the migo building in shortcuts.

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And the nexus icon in shortcuts is appreciative too on my end at least

stable cosmos
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Shortcuts has too many useless shortcuts mind you. Wtf is TA in there

digital glacier
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I like it honestly. 😝

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Cause I can move my building out of the way.

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Hide it in the corner

stable cosmos
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If it was genuine hidden I'd give you that one. Still in the hq means its a waste

digital glacier
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Literally the only requirement to have the building made is so you can equip tempest on heroes.

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You dont need the building to make tempest gear. Because the cards packs trade icon is there 🤣

stable cosmos
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Even that shouldn't be a thing. They could have been added to the chief/hero gear building

digital glacier
stable cosmos
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I never question that stuff. Down that road madness lies. Normally the answer is the devs suck at UI though

digital glacier
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I mean,
Hero training area in precinct
Hero appointment in hq. 🤷🤣

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Map search precinct

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Upgrade heroes icon, precinct

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So. Ya know.

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Can't do it if it makes sense

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^ sos motto

west fog
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Just read a couple of posts from two months ago accidentally after searching for a post in the past and taking a break.
I only realized because some names were suddenly different, but topics and statements were the same shocked_froggie

digital glacier
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Who are these people 🤔

west fog
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Now look at that... shocked_froggie
Got to be a feature in sorting...

digital glacier
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Be happy it's there 🤣

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BUT yes. I AGREE. a few things aren't placed right.

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Test state had
3 Biobatteries.
1 discounted,
2 not discounted. 70+20
They combined the 2 not discounted ones and made it 90

But they didn't do it for the mk1 frags.
1 discount, 2 not discount 🤣

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If you also notice this scrolling up and down and changing tabs, its just like the skin shop.

It doesn't jump you to the top 🤣
Try it out. You'll see what I mean.

pallid willow
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Make bomb skill only available for certain behemoth bp, not allowed for whales

tardy night
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Anyone done the math on event rewards for the new store? How do they tally compared to what we had before

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Not the store currency conversion, but the currency handed out playing the event itself. How does that compare?

stable anvil
tardy night
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Well, yes. The store prices went up, so we are being robbed there.

Are they also handing out less of the converted currency?

stable anvil
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Actually we get more

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For solo water at 180k for rr we get 12k rr coins which when converted would be 24k, but instead they are giving us 48k warrior coins

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Alliance rewards were 5k rr coins for winning alliance and 3k rr coins for losing alliance which when converted would be 10k warrior for winning and 6k for losing which is consistent

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So they gave more warrior coin ratio only for solo point criteria

harsh owl
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Your math might be off solely based on the fact F+ simply does not give more.

We cannot find evidence of this anywhere else in the game so what are the chances that this has suddenly happened in the new store?

stable anvil
tardy night
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If they did increase the currency handed out, the increased prices of the store can be offset a bit.

stable anvil
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These are the player rewards for having reached 180k water

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12k rr coins going at a 1:2 ratio would give us 24k

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Devs double the amount of coins for warrior coins and gave 5x the amount of potions, doubled the troop training speedups so instead of 10 it is 20

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1k bios to now 2k bios, they were still stingy with gold frags from 3 frags to only 5. Cheapskates but the other rewards are a slightly better improvement

harsh owl
stable anvil
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That last rr with rr coins and i had 180k water points so no doubt they did better atleast

harsh owl
# stable anvil That last rr with rr coins and i had 180k water points so no doubt they did bett...

I guess we'll need to see how the different ranking rewards and coins received for all the affected stores stacks in comparison to the old stores, when we've had all 3, not just RR.

Once we do, I suspect we'll find how F+ has screwed players with this.

One thing that stands out to me now and I didn't see before.

"KOTH 12 Wins" - is this a 1:1 match of how many coins, and I'm guessing at no.1 rank, was needed comparative to the old store currency?

If anyone has screenshots of the old store and they had enough coins to buy any of the items they should be able to do the math here pretty quickly.

patent olive
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Whats wrong with the stupid jungle gems???

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NOW I GET 10 HOURS

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OF FKN

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Biocaps

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Idiot

cloud ridge
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Before we get stabbed

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I'm also getting non stop bios BlushFrog

soft gulch
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I got bios non stop in the last run
Couldn't get past 43

harsh owl
cursive vessel
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Jungle gems varies, some times you do well and some times you don't. Take it as it is, stop complaining 🙄

cloud ridge
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No

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I'll complain about the bs we get

cursive vessel
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And then they'll remove bios and you'll all start complaining again. Nobody ever learns 🙄

cloud ridge
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Nope

cursive vessel
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They nerf stuff all the time and the more you complain the more they nerf it. But carry on..

cloud ridge
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I'll be happier with more buffs BlushFrog

cursive vessel
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You won't get more buffs even if they remove bios

tame oxide
cloud ridge
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FP would make it worse yes

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But I still hate getting basically only bios in gems, nothing will change that

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Unless they make the store better and add idle timer perhaps

cursive vessel
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Yeah, not saying it's great but I'd rather have bios than just coins. You would not get more buffs in replacement

cloud ridge
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To help offset it

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Bios is better than nothing yes, but bios is worse than buffs, nothing is awful of course if just getting coins

cursive vessel
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Of course they're worse than buffs but they won't give you buffs in replacement for less bios. None of you seem to grasp that concept. It'll just be worse than it is now cause you'll only get coins to buy buffs, not more buffs...

cloud ridge
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I think we can grasp it, it's just hoping they do the right thing and not the usual FP thing of make it worse

tame oxide
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Leave jungle gems as it is, for f2p is ok If you want more pay for it(at least is what devs want You to) if you complain we will just get less and less 🙁

soft gulch
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every time someone gets fuzzy about bios makes me tensed up about futue of the existence of the event.

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need to leave JG alone

cloud ridge
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I will trade my bios to f2p for their buffs then 😏

soft gulch
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Despite paying 50-70$ every time, I have managed to finish the 50th level just 3 times, since the inception of the event.

cursive vessel
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You don't though, cause they never do the right thing
Honestly you've all been here long enough to know that when they change things they don't make it better for anybody

amber linden
tame oxide
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They do make it better
For them 🤣

cursive vessel
harsh owl
amber linden
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To put up even more events shocked_froggie

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But yeah claim all is great

harsh owl
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That was going to happen regardless lol

amber linden
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And some of the sliders they introduced too

cursive vessel
soft gulch
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There is a semi-whale in alliance, he spend 150-200$ to hit 49/50 th. On first day of run he spends till 50$ bundle.
I think we need to understand what limit every type of spender will hit. That will bring peace.

soft gulch
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In other news

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I hate RR, i hate this event now
its just too much of stress of on a lovely sunday evening

bronze ore
soft gulch
bronze ore
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So if some spending, that would be the event.

west fog
tame oxide
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I'm happy If i reach lvl30 😊
If i get a bonus lvl and the egg perfect

cloud ridge
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I'd rather drop the bio pills peepothink

west fog
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No seriously, get real. Whining non-stop won't convince them to make anything better in your favor... or anyone's favor that is.

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Your actual goal could be getting the Most Hated Community Member Award '24 of course. In that case I won't stand in your way.