📋︱feedback-discussion

[vale yoke]

Whole event structures, ported over

The hilarity

"nah we don't really wanna do PVP this way let's do it differently"

Yes, please, let's break the game

[grand halo]

It's not the heros.. I wanting to do better than b4 but I not only not have a clue where to start

[tardy night]

The funniest bit about the whale states throwing tantrums about not getting more friends, is that they all split their legions now to avoid each other.

We want strongest states. How do we want to be strongest? By defeating farms! SEPARATE from our friends

It's a riot to see what some of them been doing. One has a whole another alliance they split between to make sure enough get rewards.

[cursive vessel]

Aww it all got deleted🤣

[west fog]

Yeah, because a statement from DYZ is clearly against server rules.

[cursive vessel]

Obviously 😅

[cloud ridge]

Nice if they quit

Then I can climb leaderboard easier in events

[sage girder]

Let's move this discussion to https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/925534219780907058 or https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/925533851005112330 please!
Keep this for feedback only !

[swift sleet]

Please can we ask devs to treat everyone the same as dyz. That's my feedback. No more insider information available to some players only

The chances of them listening are low to zero. So we will continue to make fun of the situation thank you very much

[swift sleet]

Can you submit this as feedback for me please?

Observation:
Even though the game is heavily pay to win there appears to be an additional layer of unfairness to the game due to some players and alliance receiving special treatment from funplus. DYZ in particular are playing their games about threatening to quit again with state transfer around the corner. This comes as no surprise as they have done the same multiple times previously

Consequence:
Players feel that with on top of the ever increasing gap any outside influences from devs favouring certain alliances is wholly inappropriate and completely unfair. The power gap is always increasing due to the greed of funplus, we don't need any additional favouritism shown to certain alliances.

Suggested Solution:
Stop all favouritism from devs. We already have a skewed power gap due to money being in play which is always increasing.

State number
All states

Additional proof for submission

[sage girder]

Sure, will post, however some remodeling will be done.

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[pallid willow]

Dang did i missed tea 🥲

[white turret]

😂😂

[vale yoke]

Also wouldn't hate a dev chat.

And a goat.

But not a dev chat with a goat. Though I feel like the goat would listen better

[stable cosmos]

Some remodelling ie removing the screenshots...

[sage girder]

Well, targeting specific allainces is just a rant and not really a useful feedback now, is it?

[vale yoke]

It's useful, but I could see how some people might feel that it's usefulness is not outweighed by the examples used within.
It is, however, a very good feedback regarding the clear favoritism, greed, poor development choices, and predatory behaviors against all players by the developers., some might say.

[north harbor]

It would be great if the entire letter would be shared 😂 stop cutting important parts people, stop spreading bs just because you want. Really get a life.

[vale yoke]

If someone feels that the use of any specific alliance or communications from that alliance which have been made available elsewhere is a targeted assertion, well, I'm sure their feelings would be as valid as those of players who have been at the mercy of the same behaviors which created the very environment mentioned.

Diplomacy, yeah.

[mighty gorge]

Discrimination or favouritism, or cohersion (whatever you want to call it) in one direction, but when its leveraged in the other its 'not feedback'

"There is no spreadsheet" - honest; proceeds to show said spreadsheet

[vale yoke]

The devs eat this type of thing up for breakfast, lunch, and dinner because it creates tension and inspires spending and competition

[mighty gorge]

I can inspire tension, or at least thats what I get told. Tallie even asked me to be part of 'Cerb scaring Mentoring Day' for the moderation team.

or was it "A Day with Cerb"; a horror story

[vale yoke]

They really don't care if people leave. They have other alliances they can invest into, and if that communication is to be believed, there's enough within it for the devs to easily say "uh, nah, bye then, you're too much and theres always someone hungrier to take your place".

Corporate doesn't care. Even with mobile games.

[mighty gorge]

Maybe we can do "Cerb and Liannin - The Lectures"

[vale yoke]

Ooh!

[mighty gorge]

I can have some pens in my top pocket of my shirt that have leaked a little

[vale yoke]

You've got red on ya

[mighty gorge]

and wear glasses and a flat cap

[vale yoke]

You'll be lucky to get me out of jammies and a hoodie

And I'm definitely gonna smell like bad decisions

Or good ones, depending on your outlook

[mighty gorge]

I do chuckle that we left naivety central and come back to sarcasm corner

[vale yoke]

Hehe

[mighty gorge]

I'm sure there is an underground tubemap from funplus title to funplus title

Each with bizarre station names

[vale yoke]

I don't wanna go through the trouble of overlays

[mighty gorge]

Overhead projectors, with those lines are much better than powerpoint 😂

[north harbor]

If you share the full document you would see how devs opinion or favoritism were not a topic, but some adjectives were added 🫢. Liar liar. Where were you Pinocchio?

[sage girder]

If I write a feedback of how much the devs favor Cerb, that's just plain out rant with no real feedback contributed.
It's like people who don't like their government but don't go voting and just rant.

So them quitting is unrelated, they are willing to do whatever they please. They are not the only spending alliance out there, just the most famous as they were there for a long while.

So yes, if you really just to complain, be ny guest.

[vale yoke]

I don't know that you got his reference

Lol

[mighty gorge]

Didn't. Obviously

[vale yoke]

Lisa felt really good about that, too. I was happy for her

To show up on paper like that? Our girl is stronk

I'm lucky if I show up in game lol

[sage girder]

Meant to reply to this

[mighty gorge]

But naturally the little moddie doens't grasp the concept of why the feedback is justified. Its not about the person/target even if its more a point of note, but rather how there is a clear divide between certain demographics in the game, and said demographic when they 'shout about quittting' its historically been about pulling their money in some veiled attempt to get something they want, which has again historically ended up being so.

[vale yoke]

I'm just waiting

Lol

[vale yoke]

There was a whole end of tournament scandal about this very thing

[mighty gorge]

Therefore, the weighted argument, and perfectly valid one about feeding back on such actions is reasonable, despite what the perception is.

But hey, what do I know 😛

Maybe I'm just here to be a disruption (not, that was a joke)

[vale yoke]

And listen, I've talked to some folks in DYZ and they've been nice enough, but that doesn't also negate that there have been suspicious occurrences in terms of the developers response to statements that alliance has made in the past.
If other alliances have also been doing that, then they are also included within the initial context and nuance of the provided feedback.
Using one which has been very publicly questioned for this type of thing as an example is not necessarily targeted, rather illustrating one of the many issues within the aims and goals of the developers at FunPlus.

[mighty gorge]

Right of passage and all that jazz having to deal with one or the other of us, but both together. Sheesh.

[vale yoke]

Both together is my favorite

I don't agree with using any specific team as an example, it should be noted, but that doesn't mean I don't accept and stand behind the context and concerns of the suggested feedback overall

Hmmm made points, good ones.

Also don't forget, 30 minutes until MIGO ends

I think I found someone who types more than I do. Omg. Can we be friends?

[mighty gorge]

It will be the keyboard disappearing 😛

[vale yoke]

[mighty gorge]

I had to, it was just there to be said..

[vale yoke]

I'ma go make a sammich

[sage girder]

So far, you have proved exactly what I said, you are willing to rant only (again, your right, none is taking that).

It's like this story, a man dies and goes to heaven and asks god ''hey god, why did I never win the lottery but my neighbor won it twice? I prayed everyday!"
So god asked him " sure, but did you ever buy a ticket?"

Writing feedback of 'why I didn't get what I wanted because I believe they do get what they want' is not really a feedback.

If you believe and have proof they have special access to some secret chat (apart from 'suspicious events' that makes you say 'aha') then we can write a feedback of having more players accessing this special developer chat.

But again, posting their retirement letter complaining is the same as posting your complain of losing in RR because you were matched with a mega spender in a weak alliance.

You do what makes you happy.

[mighty gorge]

Maybe its something enlightening, and inspiring. But then again, maybe its just DDR.

Yep. Its DDR.

[vale yoke]

I wanna know where half of that came from. Lots of assertions. But also, you made a mod rant at you, you monster. Lol

[mighty gorge]

Or maybe just lack of knowledge, I'm verging in that direction.

I know, I feel...sad.

[vale yoke]

Imagine coming at either of us about our feedback, or even baselessly complaining we aren't favorites lol

[mighty gorge]

I must admit, I do find the response amusing. It was a good attempt. Failed, but points for effort.

[stable cosmos]

Well, there was the tournament where dyz and fbi were meant to fight in the semis which got overturned hours before the match. That was obviously totally above board

[vale yoke]

And then telling some unrelated allegorical tale, which was condescending and unnecessary btw, only to then assert there are secret chats? LOL

Wow.

[sage girder]

Well, you can always join the moderation team, it's always easy to yell at the neighbors's green grass because it's free 🙂

[mighty gorge]

And there it is.

[vale yoke]

I've only been waiting for a dev chat I won for 395 days

[mighty gorge]

Wait, how many times in the last 5 years have I read that or been asked that

[sage girder]

Sorry that facts are unpleasant for you.

[mighty gorge]

lol

[vale yoke]

Actually, mod team apps are closed last I knew

[stable cosmos]

Then there was the thing about leading states where dyz were one, and somehow they became not one despite the assertions we had about there being no way to change it

[vale yoke]

Seems like you weren't informed of that

[mighty gorge]

I accept your apology.

But facts, thats a stretch.

[sage girder]

You are also free to believe the earth is flat if that makes it easier for you, I am not judging.

[vale yoke]

Might wanna call in support from someone who actually knows how to handle this room. You're too emotionally involved.

You're getting worked up

[sage girder]

When they will open obviously and they will someday.

[cloud ridge]

Feedback, nerf the strong alliances

[vale yoke]

Just relax, we're all buds here

[cloud ridge]

For example

DYZ

[vale yoke]

LOL

Talk to your Leads before you say stuff like that, see if they have a timeline

[mighty gorge]

I feel that too. I guess my optics on certain situations don't land well with the ill informed, with tales of witty analogies that don't really fit.

[vale yoke]

It might be the delivery, to be fair

It's not digiorno

[sage girder]

Oh trust me I am fine, thank you for worrying.

[vale yoke]

You're welcome

I'm just a player, like you

[mighty gorge]

😂

[mighty gorge]

OK. I cracked up at this.

[vale yoke]

Has the room been DDR'd enough you think?

[mighty gorge]

mic drop

[sage girder]

We don't have timeline as developers decide when to expand the team. But no reason they wouldn't open in the future.

[vale yoke]

LOL okay

Good to know

[sage girder]

Honestly, that's what the original feedback is trying to say only with 'they got dev chat'.

[stable cosmos]

I'm just ticking stuff off on my bingo board

[cloud ridge]

Can the devs expand their ears to listen to our feedback then

[vale yoke]

So to rephrase Hmmm's feedback

Observation:
Even though the game is heavily pay to win there appears to be an additional layer of unfairness to the game due to some players and alliance receiving special treatment from funplus. A top alliance in particular are playing their games about threatening to quit again with state transfer around the corner. This comes as no surprise as they have done the same multiple times previously

Consequence:
Players feel that with on top of the ever increasing gap any outside influences from devs favouring certain alliances is wholly inappropriate and completely unfair. The power gap is always increasing due to the greed of funplus, we don't need any additional favouritism shown to certain alliances.

Suggested Solution:
Stop all favouritism from devs. We already have a skewed power gap due to money being in play which is always increasing.

State number
All states

[sage girder]

No reason to DDR at all, you are expressing opinions which is totally legit to do.

[cloud ridge]

Not really, it's just easier to use a blatant example to prove a point, it's no different to how in doomsday suddenly the matchmaking was unfair or a "error" occurred and they rushed to adjust the matching, otherwise certain big allainces wouldn't have progressed as far as they would

[sage girder]

https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1185728426770968677

This is what being moved on to the developers, what they decide to listen or implant from this, is beyond our control.

[vale yoke]

All of it is being moved on to developers, top ten is just what "matters most"

Omg who trained you

[cloud ridge]

I thought all feedback was passed on

[mighty gorge]

Top 10 feedback. Lol

Funny

[vale yoke]

They obvs werent involved in the super secret channel

[stable cosmos]

All feedback is passed on is what We've been told. Top 10 is just "special"

[vale yoke]

Lol

[mighty gorge]

I'm special too.

[vale yoke]

We got that from people higher than you

[cloud ridge]

Top 10 feedback by DYZ members 👀

[mighty gorge]

Let me rephrase that. We got that from people more knowledgeable

[stable cosmos]

Nah, its genuinely top upvotes, it just doesn't mean anything really

[vale yoke]

Is that because no one is higher than me?

Lol

Made a funny

[sage girder]

🙂

[stable cosmos]

Now I'm thinking of blister in the sun by the violent femmes, thanks...

[vale yoke]

[cloud ridge]

🙃

[vale yoke]

I was thinking more... Cal Scruby

[mighty gorge]

😎

[vale yoke]

Can't say the name of the song bc it endorses something against server rules.

But anyway, back to the amended feedback. Does that meet acceptable parameters?

[cloud ridge]

Me likes

[vale yoke]

Thank Hmmm for it, tbh, I just adapted it a little

[mighty gorge]

I'm sure there is a parade of people chuckling to themselves at this chat

[cloud ridge]

I hope it reaches top 10 otherwise it's not important enough apparently

[vale yoke]

Depending on who's online, absolutely

[west fog]

I wanted to talk about some other feedback, but I've got a feeling it's the wrong time right now. Don't want to disturb this... whatever it is.
Tomorrow is a day as well.

[vale yoke]

Btw, the feedback is posted. The amended version spectral went with still encompasses the spirit of the concerns, just shortened

[mighty gorge]

Maybe I should do the lottery. I might get a ticket.

Then again, I might forgo the ticket, and still watch it and wonder if I'll win.

[vale yoke]

I win when I don't play the lottery

Because I've worked the lottery in multiple states and good lord what a racket.

Almost reset, do you know where your MIGO is?

[mighty gorge]

Dead.

[vale yoke]

Not for long. It's a zombeh

[mighty gorge]

My MIGO left the chat.

[vale yoke]

Two weeks resurrection time

And nexus

Optimized.

Or whatever, I'm sure

[mighty gorge]

I'm still deciding if I want to quit. Or become a mod, I mean the training seems super top notch.

[sage girder]

Hi, feel free to talk about it.

We can discuss 50 feedbacks at the same time, just make sure you reply so it won't get lost.

[vale yoke]

True ↑

[stable cosmos]

Predictions on nexus being changed at all?

[sage girder]

No reason not to, you will definitely see more things you were not aware of.

Maybe you will even fibd the super secret chat that alliance has in there, and maybe not.

Definitely will be a mind opening experience.

Of course if you decide to quit, none here will stop you, you are a grown person with a will of it's own.

[stable cosmos]

I'm guessing less mines available and extra bugs

[sage girder]

I did like Nexus, better than the MM in a way.

[mighty gorge]

Maybe you have no idea what you're talking about. But keep going.

I suggest you take a time out. Best for all around I think.

[sage girder]

Like I said, feel free to believe whatever you want to.

Thanks but I will stick around, but thank you for worrying.

[stable anvil]

Seems to me devs love to drop state points for seasonal coins after day was over. Prize pool is the same but state points and contribution points changed. Time to pull up that old ticket i made about devs changing things from last season and getting compensation for it

Now time to also say why does rules not say cross state players contributions also affect the growth when they start being rewarded tier rewards for our work

[sage girder]

Hi, I will forward this question to CM, it is definitely an odd change which is affecting everyone.

[stable anvil]

This happened last season

And back then i didnt had all the proof but this time i recorded it with date and time

[sage girder]

I honestly didn't pay attention to it, can you link me your previous feedback?

[stable anvil]

We dropped last season from tier 4 to tier 3 and like i said the rules say only state members benefit from the pool that we made yet devs include other state to reap from it without their contributions being included

[sage girder]

For the bare minimum, I will try to get an explanation on the subject. I am also curious.

[stable anvil]

I have no idea when it was but maybe i can find a ticket number but its incomplete again because i didnt have screenshots except when our state got the pop up that we achieved that tier reward

[sage girder]

It's ok even without screenshots, just the wording I am interested in.

[digital glacier]

Might have something to do with state transfer. The points earned by that player might continue to be counted in their original state the entire season, but when the season ends, the system goes through a check and removes the points earned for those who transfer out 🤷 maybe. As for the individual score 🤷 devs can't math worth a F. So there is that 😆

[stable anvil]

No transfer yet

Transfer is the following week

[stable anvil]

They sent this back

They said show them the poolsize currently but it was dropping because people were claiming prizes and the it showed at that time 1 bil state points

And its funny look at the pic i put above we lost 500 mil points exactly which drop us from that tier reward

2.65 bil to 2.15 bil

[sage girder]

A little odd response as the price for the formation is irrelevant, in your provided SS the issue is you and your state were penalized with no reason (whenever it was moved to upper tiers or just gone)

[stable anvil]

Here is the state points from last seasonal coin event

[vale yoke]

I just wanted to let you know I'll be talking to someone about not only your arrogant and condescending responses when discussing feedback with players, but also your need to be placed back into training.
I'm also curious which CM you think you'll talk to. The one remaining?

[digital glacier]

Ok so may me explain this.
I make 1 Gmail account.
I make 2 characters under that account in state 1000

When state transfer comes I leave the state. I move both characters out of the state into different states or the same one. Doesn't matter.

As of 2 weeks ago when it was last checked, since you're only allowed to have 2 Characters on a account in the same state, the game won't allow an additional character to be made in state 1000

But there's no character in that account in state 1000. They left it to go somewhere else 😆🤷

@stable anvil

Game might think those accounts that transferred out of state are still from state 1000. 🤷

[stable anvil]

State points drop each time someone claims the lottery rewards, but look again at our state point 1 bil add 500 mil thats exactly 1.5 bil for tier 4 rewards, then look at the evidence i added above we dropped from 2.65 to 2.15 bil so im right devs do mess up and say its not a technical issue.

[digital glacier]

Oh snap. Ok

[sage girder]

But state transfer did not start yet as far as I know, I do understand your theory.

[digital glacier]

State transfer started years ago... In what I'm talking about 😆😂

[stable anvil]

So it would be nice for this to be forwarded to devs since they penalized us last season and they are doing it again this season, like do they have issues calculating things along the way. Im just waiting for others to start sending pic saying why the points dropped and why we didnt get that tier reward

[sage girder]

Oh, I thought you just gave an example, in your case I understand yes.

[digital glacier]

If they corrected all the errors in their battle formula calculations, you would see an entirely different effect 😆

[digital glacier]

Not just an example, but legit, you can't create that account, 😂

[sage girder]

Ok so hold on, you are still locked from making new accounts in 1000?

[stable anvil]

And look at it now after i checked now Seasonal coins they brought it back up to the original amount

Devs playing around and watch it drop again

[digital glacier]

@stable anvil what state you in 🤔

[stable anvil]

876

[digital glacier]

Crazy 😵

[pallid willow]

When can we use those coins tho it said draw begin now and then timer started on an hour again 🙄

[stable anvil]

Devs are trying to correct their scheme

[digital glacier]

Yeah... Ain't that some sheet

[stable anvil]

Watch as 1 person hits the jackpot several times and you sitting there like wtf and me?

[sage girder]

If you don't mind I will dm you later for some questions!

[digital glacier]

Just ask here.

[stable anvil]

Does some mod care to explain where in the rules does it say cross state player contribute to state points in our state and why they are taking pool rewards if they have their own seperate pool size.

[unreal lichen]

Hey Chiefty, I don't really understand your question. My understanding is that states in the same group accumulate points and draws together.

[stable anvil]

Doesn't mention that in rules

It says state (singular not plural

[tardy night]

Are you from dyz?

[zealous scroll]

I can't advance since there is no rockets on idle rewards. This 5k coins won't help me reach lvl20 lol

[tardy night]

Anyone remember the troop loss recovery packs sold right after an alliance killed their troops to get people in?

Spectral embrace needs reminders

And if a mod is deciding what qualifies as a rant and what is feedback, oh boy do we have some quality feedback for them to filter through through the years.

[stable anvil]

You should have been using lens and got to lvl 11 as quick as you can

I did it and i didn't spend money on it

[zealous scroll]

That's what I'm doing. They just give it to me. I only got bios and coins the whole day yesterday

I was lvl11 on first day. I only manage to lvl up 3 times yesterday

This one from my another account. Such bad luck ☹️

[stable anvil]

Game requires you to collect every 3 hours, so right now thats a you problem with the game,

[tardy night]

How's it a player specific issue when the only rewards triggered by the game in 24 hours are biocaps 🧐

Game can require you to sit at every second and collect. Still won't mean a thing if every second only triggers biocaps.

[stable anvil]

Devs gave low probability we understand devs are damn to greedy so they expect either for you to be up every 3 hours to claim the rewards or spend money and get the hammer

[tardy night]

🤦🏾‍♂️

3 hours - 1 bomb
3 hours - 5k biocaps.

Now if that's repeated for 8 times. What's the difference at the end of the day.

[slate fossil]

May I ask, just to clarify....what is disliked of this particular rewards process-the actual rewards, or the having to collect every three hours, or or maybe both of these parts of the Idle rewards feature?

[slate fossil]

if you are still around? that was mostly aimed at your post, but, not solely.

Boy oh boy- can I clear out a room!

[stable cosmos]

People want to complete the event as far as they can without paying. This is the antithesis of what f---plus want. There is a general complaint that they are getting bios rather than items that'll let them clear the event.

What they don't realise is if they get any bit of their wish is that the following change is most likely.

1 pickup. No bios. Set amount of everything else at lower numbers than if they got a bit lucky on the 3 hour claim.

Guys, you're not going to get it better than now. Ever. Live with this or risk it becoming FAR worse

[tardy night]

[slate fossil]

Well, to say it quite simply, is that the option to collect "Idle Rewards" is a bonus to any activity/event. It does give at least the opportunity to get rewards related to the event, as opposed to not.- Which I find useful, as I am a very low spender & rarely spend on events like & similair to this.

[tardy night]

You gotta get inspired by the crybabies of dyz. They have everything and they want more. It's not enough and never will be.

Whines harder

[stable cosmos]

Its just that the first one was nice. Now its not so nice and people want the first one back. Whereas f---plus are gonna devote the changes to "how hard can we push spending in this event" and complaining about its free options will 100% speed that up

[slate fossil]

I thought I knew what this conversation was even about....But, now I am doubting that entirely...

[tardy night]

Entitlement vs greed

Time vs money

[stable cosmos]

Well, some people want a thing. They aren't going to get the thing. But their continued moaning will make the thing worse, not better. Not talking about it at all might keep it status quo

[tardy night]

Defeatism

Vs eternal forced optimism

[stable cosmos]

I take defeatism every time for the stuff that makes them money

[slate fossil]

ooooh, okay- I get it- But, I am not going to mention that I do....I've said nada...

[stable cosmos]

Optimism for the stuff that earns them nothing

[slate fossil]

can optimism really be forced for an eternity? At some point it seems you can change the status quo, after maybe half of that eternity?

[stable cosmos]

Like the hero "types" are now in old gfx mode. That was free

Whereas whatever change to prizes that was wanted went nowhere. Or the 3000+ people saying cancel the roses event were ignored

Roses event earning cash of course

[slate fossil]

that was a kind of odd popularity contest [during the apocalypse] with the roses thing event(s)

okay- you beautiful people- is by chance there a feedback you would like to offer up- or create from this valid discussion of events- mentioned above (or those needing not to be mentioned, in the interest of their best interest)

[stable cosmos]

They've done it more than once despite there being a lot of harrassment in the first one and even saying they wouldn't run it again. They've run it twice since that assurance

No not really. Just that some feedback is way less likely to work than other feedback and be careful with the stuff you give as if you leave it to the devs you are getting the worst version of whatever you ask for.

Feedback is a monkeys paw when it comes to monetary changes

[slate fossil]

I'm going to assume that a "monkey's paw" is distasteful?

[stable cosmos]

Monkey paw is a trope. Generally it grants a wish with a massive negative built in. Like. I wish i never saw that person again,so it makes you blind

[slate fossil]

So to understand, it's the Rose event thing you are saying that assurance was given as to not running that event, [again]? And then was released two additional times?

[stable cosmos]

Example of why monetary things in feedback have little success

[slate fossil]

whoa....

[stable cosmos]

3000+ people said no to running it again, in less than 8 hours. It went ahead anyway.

I think my feedback on the hero type stuff in old gfx got like 15 upvotes, it was actually implemented

[slate fossil]

well, I agree with the success part & I certainly don't have a percentage to that effect- However I can say with a huge amount of certainty, that unless some things are not submitted in mass quantity, changes cannot be made or realized

[stable cosmos]

Difference between the 2 is the hero type stuff earns no money and was probably fast and cheap to add

[tepid rivet]

Devs on changes be like: participation is voluntary, not mandatory

[stable cosmos]

Gods that was a fail of a statement

[tepid rivet]

Ikr haha

[stable cosmos]

Totally free to get harrassed FIRST and then take action rather than avoiding the harrassement in the first place

[tepid rivet]

😆

[slate fossil]

is that an oxymoron? I'm not being sarcastic, Just flaunting my ignorance, probably??

[stable cosmos]

Released policy by f---plus. You don't have to do the roses event, but you can report people who harass you. That doesn't prevent people, potentially minors, dealing with pretty nasty people until CS figure it out and do their worthless 24 hour ban

Ignoring that block is literally useless for a seasoned troll

[tepid rivet]

I mean 3k people must be wronger than FunMinus right

[stable cosmos]

3k people in less than 8 hours

Think it was the highest ever block of feedback we had. Actions taken, none

[slate fossil]

whhhhaat? I was not aware that the event promoted players to freely harrass others?? I was not a mod durng those rose events. But, regardless- I am speechless as to the negative environment you say it created......I don't really get it, tbh

[tepid rivet]

I know, many servers mobilised their people to vote on it and the effect was 0. So, even though I appreciate the call for feedback, it is practically useless cause the company does as it pleases anyway

[stable cosmos]

It didn't promote that. But it had a competitive aspect and that means some people are horrible.

And f---plus took the worst position they could when they re-released it which was somethjng they'd promised not to do. So any time they're listening to feedback, take it with a lot of grains of salt as they're 99% lying

[slate fossil]

true, some times we find out in a way unintended how people will respond if allowed

this is worrisome- I don't know the specifics- and I trust that , of course your experience is true as you say- I reeeeallllly want to believe somewhere in the feedback process it wasn't understood, to the degree of neccessity.....

I say this only because aside from any greediness perceived- No one, FunPlus included benefits from a hostile environment- for all levels of players it is not conducive for any game success

[stable cosmos]

You haven't been round for too long then. Believe me when i say this company has very little in the way of morals and will put monetisation ahead of everything else. They create games like this, pump up the costs and when it falls over they spin up a new skin and shell company and repeat their actions.

[slate fossil]

I have to maintain a bit of sanity and by that, it is having eternal [willful] optimism, that the best way to provoke any change is from the closest advantage place possible

[tardy night]

It was crystal clear that the event resulted in solicitation & improper requests, including to minors. Fun+ knew, were presented the evidence, and extended the event to 3 of their games.

[slate fossil]

I haven' t the words or proper bandwidth to adequately respond.

[stable cosmos]

Just keep it in mind when following their asinine rules

[slate fossil]

well, goodness sakes- this topic, "branch" all began when I was making my exit from Discord. I didn't want to leave without double checking if anyone had some feedback to submit, or needed help in doing so...

btw, you aren't suppose to use words like that.....I'm truly, sort of JK-even though you really can't

and.............with that........My settlement needs me & the free Turtles frags are only for a few more days!!!!

[stable cosmos]

Asinine? Its not a curse of any sort. Genuine word.

[slate fossil]

I know- I was just making things all , unnecessarily "Mod-esque"........
Humor is a hard toad to roe, in text form.

[tardy night]

Next time someone harass yidi for noodles

All puns not intended

[soft gulch]

Same story here stuck at 31

[pallid willow]

Anyone else got 100 lucky tokens when buying 2 for biocaps?

[slate fossil]

Key word.....Lucky!!

room empties out, as all rush over to game to see if a glitch has been discovered

[pallid willow]

I heard some peeps did, only fairness would be compensation for everyone with the same i think 🥲

[slate fossil]

yes, in a perfect world....

[pallid willow]

100 a lot 🥲

[sage girder]

Have you ever reported this bug, just out of curiosity?

[cloud ridge]

Did nami quit?

Did he also not post the DYZ feedback

[mighty gorge]

They did, ish, but was more interested in being condescending and arrogant

Sadly, that mod needs some re-training and some soft skill development

[tardy night]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

Removed all context out of it when the feedback warranted evidence accompanying it

Dyz fanboy absolves dyz of all wrongdoing.

[sage girder]

Hello,
Feel free to contact https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1154385061978841148

If you feel any mod is in the wrong here 🙂

[mighty gorge]

I dont' need to. Most of them are my friends.

I'll just have a 'chat' later about your behaviour

[tardy night]

Hey, does anyone remember that American supreme court judge who didn't recuse himself on a judgement involving his wife.

[sage girder]

Even better! Let's bring this conversation to the end and focus on feedbacks, shall we?

[tardy night]

You don't get to decide when it ends bub

[civic star]

[tardy night]

@sage girder please write this feedback

Observation: mods have been observed contextually altering feedback to the point that the crux is lost, often from their own perspective which might not be aligned to the feedback provided

Consequence: player opinions end up stifled by such moderators and players believe that such mods do not help the feedback system by providing a neutral voice.

Suggested solution: if such behavior persists and is often reported for certain mods, they should be taken off handling player queries and directed back to training under the guidance of tmods for anywhere between 3 to 6 weeks.

[sage girder]

Last I checked this is a feedback discussion channel, my bad and I am sorry of you feel you are wronged! Please use this platform for any issues you have with any member of the moderation team:
https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1154385061978841148

As for the posted feedback, you can post one by yourself, you don't need a moderator to post on your behalf if you disagree with how it was posted, just abide to the format please:
https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606

As for casual chatter, let's use these channels as they are intended exactly for that:
https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/925534219780907058 and https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/925533851005112330

[tardy night]

I can't write it. Help me with submitting it

I'm requesting your assistance on the matter

Please change as suitable.

[sage girder]

No problem with this one, don't see any particular targeting so I can post that.

My remark was to the original feedback this conversation began with.

[tardy night]

This is relevant feedback for the direction of the game. You do not have any specific guidance or mod privileges to decide what is, and what isn't feedback. So your opinion is just ...that. an opinion, same as players like us. Yes?

I can post the entire training manual here if we are in disagreement.

[sage girder]

You are almost correct, however when a feedback is targeting an individual (let's say Steven), that is not a valid feedback I can post as it will just make it biased and will lose it's relevant as a feedback.

So me posting how I don't like Steven being a very big powerful spender who is able to solo my entire alliance is not really a feedback, the developers won't nerf Steven because he is more powerful.

[tardy night]

Individual context is necessary in this case. Please provide the guidance materials you received which negate this.

Any and all training reference materials feel free to bring them.

[sage girder]

Here you go! Feel free to upvote it.
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[mighty gorge]

Can I offer you some advice. You can choose to ignore it at your wish, but these parallels you attempt to draw, they are neither relevent or useful. Citing an individual is personal, however citing an alliance is nothing more than, citing an alliance. I even rationalised it for you yesterday but you chose to take a path that was both dismissive and disrespectful.

[cloud ridge]

Maybe he's a DYZ mod

[tardy night]

Maybe? 🤣

[sage girder]

This channel will aid you if you have any issues with members of the moderation team: https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1154385061978841148

[tardy night]

We are waiting for the reference materials. Keep us posted about it.

[tardy night]

You didn't include the states affected and you didn't ask anyone who made the feedback whether they were okay with their name on the feedback.

Training needed.

[cloud ridge]

Embrace the references!

[sage girder]

Posting on someone's behalf is posting on someone's behalf :
Corrected for the states, my bad as this is more of a discord issues but no problem.

If the feedback team will have questions, they will need to know who to refer to.

[tardy night]

Tag me here when you find the manual/guide/training material which says we cannot highlight instances within the game perpetuated by alliances, wherein the individual alliances cannot be named.

[cursive vessel]

So everyone is super chirpy today 🤣

[full rampart]

[wide wraith]

morning all

[full rampart]

Shadow

[wide wraith]

how you doing Tallie on this wet and windy monday

[stable cosmos]

Theres the end of my bingo card at least

[full rampart]

I’m at grandparents getting ready to drive back to “reality”(work) , how are you?

[full rampart]

Did you scream BINGO?

[wide wraith]

living the dream lol, same old monday

[full rampart]

I’m jealous

[cursive stirrup]

Can i ask what all the things are that give you more (combat) moral.. thx

[wide wraith]

collecting the sets

in collections but there is also some tempest gear that will give +1 or +2

[swift sleet]

This analogy is wrong. If god is funplus as you seem to be implying, they're changing the rules so one man always wins.

[elfin blade]

Where is the merge info?? Transfer next week and nothing even about which states might be involved 🙃 or confirmation there won’t be mergers

[cursive vessel]

I'm guessing there aren't any merges this time around but who really knows 😅

[cloud ridge]

#⭐︱game_information message this was it no?

[elfin blade]

That’s transfer

[cloud ridge]

Nothing said on state merge for quite a while so no hint on that, just normal state transfer

[elfin blade]

But people have had intel from GMs and other sources that there will be state mergers, so an announcement that there won’t or which states will be would be helpful - no?

[cloud ridge]

We don't do announcements here

We still never got one about the whole half length avatar issue that was suppose to have been done

Maybe you should ask Spectral Embrace mod for help

[cursive vessel]

They're never very quick when it comes to putting info out on merges. It is possible they're happening and they just haven't added the info yet but it's also just as possible that they're not doing merges 🤷‍♀️

[tame oxide]

only transfer this time

[viscid ore]

Yes, the states, especially the older ones are so full of active players that DEV would like to avoid overcrowding!!
I'm being ironic, obviously😉😜

[tame oxide]

🤣

[mighty gorge]

Teta!!! 💋

[viscid ore]

Awww😍

[storm solstice]

be ready for an updated version the next days - more state brackets with transfer and suddenly maybe also state mergers

[vale yoke]

When the other shoe drops, it usually hurts 🫠

[swift sleet]

Ohh, can't wait for dyz to be in a trailing state, get more whales in transfer, and merge with the "strongest" state too 🍿

[storm solstice]

Honestly, i couldn´t care less.
I don´t see any fun in such, but that´s my PoV.

shall they have the top 1000 strongest players in this 1 state.

[swift sleet]

I do, and also most other people not in dyz.

[cloud ridge]

Let all the whales burn eachother in one state

[charred swift]

Would suit me for all the strongest players to be in one state, keep them out of our way and more fun for everyone else.

[swift sleet]

Not beyond the realms of it happening. They're already crying they can't one shot settlements in svs

[cloud ridge]

Have they tried spending more money?

[swift sleet]

Ye that's why they're crying. Now they want devs to nerf the svs settlement buff

How dare they provide lowbies with some protection from the gods in dyz

[cloud ridge]

Just make it a bundle 😏

It's always fun having big spenders be unable to burn you at svs

[fluid shuttle]

I'm very content with not being able to get points for attacking weaker settlements

[cloud ridge]

Nexus, duels, rr etc.

[swift sleet]

You're not in dyz

[tardy night]

One simple reason why you should not want this happening. Price Inflation.

[swift sleet]

The gap is massive already anyway. And inflation is relative to who it affects. Anything that will make people wake up and see what a scam finplus is and quit is okay by me

[tardy night]

I'm not talking in terms of relative stat gap. I'm talking in terms of stat percentage purchasable per $.

[swift sleet]

Ye that's what I mean too. The pace of improvement will be relative still because people are getting less overall

[glacial moat]

You waiting ?

[tardy night]

Relative between who? Power creep will ensure newest spenders get the best bargains in that case and oldest money is eroded fastest.

People spending 5k bucks today will lose out overall cuz 4 months later those stats get achieved at 500 bucks. (This happened in both of their first 2 games)

A steady inflation rate keeps that balance too.

[swift sleet]

Yes, with a large cup of tea and a bucket of popcorn

[cursive barn]

we will always be DYZ😇

[viscid ore]

I prefer a balanced state, I think it's more fun to play!
"Diamond States" should play among themselves and stay out of competitions where we mere mortals are.
Above all, incoming transfers should be prevented without the possibility of using techniques to get out of the lead.

[glacial moat]

Keep waiting then . I will disband DYZ

[swift sleet]

But, but that's what they're crying about already. Imagine if you removed the ability to drop transfer rating. They'll be throwing more than their toys out of the pram

[raw prism]

People will never get out of the state to or with their friends cuz of this... what is SoS trying to do right now?

[glacial moat]

You can read what we wrote

[swift sleet]

I did, so are you quitting or not? You said you would

[glacial moat]

I quit after KOH

[storm solstice]

this can be set and changed by Wednesday from the Gov, if you have transfer option for the 15th

[glacial moat]

with lucifer and YiDi and some player

[swift sleet]

Good, see you at next migo then like last time you quit

[glacial moat]

Cya

[buoyant verge]

[glacial moat]

If next migo not see us come back , remember come back this channel eat all those word

But after 9 months I’m not sure back or not

[swift sleet]

Well, that depends doesn't it? On whether funplus gives you what you want again.

It would be nice to see you quit though, not because we're losing a player, but perhaps funplus does have a conscience and won't favour certain alliances

[glacial moat]

Please continue to support a conscientious game with the mentality of a conscientious player.

[swift sleet]

But you're part of the problem in why this game is the way it is

[glacial moat]

You are the first one I saw Fun plus conscientious

[swift sleet]

I was being hopeful yet sarcastic. Probably didn't translate very well

[tardy night]

[steel musk]

well here it's just fp and devs which killed fun in this game

I mean behemoth and tanks and formation system and big gap btw players just killed the game

[tardy night]

If only studies existed to measure impact of equivalent skill based matchmaking vs one sided matchmaking

[cloud ridge]

If only FP could read

[tardy night]

Even for those advocating for one sided matchmaking

[swift sleet]

This surely isn't an experiment that funplus did. If it was "skill" would be replaced with "money spent "

[tardy night]

Activision

[cloud ridge]

What most likely will happen is once those quit, others will take their place and "recover" the lost spending

[tardy night]

Depends on how bad the power creep becomes. At one stage they stop getting newbies altogether and cut the zone off to start new.

[swift sleet]

Oh, it's probably true but that's not why people are quitting Activision games. From personal experience playing blizzard games like wow and diablo, it's because the games are getting worse and worse

[cloud ridge]

I hope it's a loss for FP either way, if the accounts we're deleted however then that be a bigger message than simply voided or passed down

[tardy night]

The oldest f+ game is in its 4th year now with 336 kds not having gotten a single new player. 🤷🏽‍♂️

So when folks say they're not affected, they really have no clue.

At some point, when stats are 800k% , newbies give up day 1. Cuz that's a huge mental wall to even try to catch up with

They're at 1.6 million% now. No stopping that train.

[cloud ridge]

I'd like to think having like 100 billion things to upgrade day one, 20 hero gens or whatever we're up to and more on the way, would be a good deterrent

Maybe they should just release everything day 1 for new states going forward and not go either fake state age progressions which is meaningless

[coarse verge]

Unistate here we come

When you enjoy feedback discussions more than the game , it is huge problem 😅

[untold stag]

I was discussing the other day with my R5 how much focus this game has with statues and skins now.

Outside of pearls (which can be converted to other materials when the store is up), it is all statues.

[wide wraith]

what feedback discussion, 99.9% is people moaning comparing with other companies, basically who cares what company A or B does, that is not feedback

[untold stag]

Why not allow those gold and silver coins to be converted into behemoth crates, plasma, crystals, or the like?

[wide wraith]

they had to give the ultra whales something to be able to have an advantage, now those ultra whales are maxed and have nothing left to buy, of course other will catch up, simple answer is for the ultra whales to stop spending but of course they won't

i dont mind the pearls as they can be converted later when it matters, not that it ever does

a few plasma crates or behemoth crates here and there ae soon used but get them in bulk you can actually do something with them

when you need like 343 plasma and 116 poly for an upgrade, what use is 10 plasma

or when you need 366 rex frags, what use is 2

[lime zealot]

Its true that some companies use strategy of disposing of oldies and replacing them with new.
Veteran gamers aware of all the issues and bugs, in general disappointed with company and pleasing them will require professional rework...

Meanwhile, creating fun front for newbies takes less effort, and even if with time they will grow into displeased veterans, its easy to repeat cycle.
The only problem lies in getting new players, without them disposing of veterans will eventually kill game.
And I doubt that SoS is very popular right now, lot of negative feedback already was posted.

[digital glacier]

So. I've said this time and time again since they introduced this research book. Which provides experience to the survival book which is PERMANENT!
They should allow the research book to be upgradeable for the same duration you can purchase items from the store.
This is absolutely hilariously not funny at 0 utc Monday this came through.

What's funny about it is, seconds later this came through

I could have upgraded 1 thing for 280 but apparently I missed claiming 1 task or something somewhere. 🤷 Complete F bs

On a different note.... Becca, wtf you talking, didn't I tell you I don't want to see this 💩
Also Becca... How dumb do you fn think I am. I clicked that fn icon to build the gd building the first fn time. I think I know by now if I hide some 💩 and I want it hq all. Go to the fn buildings list 🤣 please stfuysb

[swift sleet]

Ye it's been like that for a while now. Lazy developers

[digital glacier]

Yes. I know. Hence my first sentence 🤷

[swift sleet]

They have no time. End of migo, just before state transfer is the time they schedule for meetings to kowtow to dyz

[stable anvil]

This is some rigged crap wtf, 33 sec apart and hit lotter twice

[cloud ridge]

Had something like that in pluton as well

Maybe he threatened to quit or something

[jolly harness]

[stable anvil]

0022

[ruby delta]

pluton is probably just someone who’s spent way too much the last couple days lol

[cloud ridge]

So, I should become RIP 0022

Then I'll win at everything

[stable anvil]

Try it maybe you get special surprise in mail, 500k diamonds

[jolly harness]

you are welcome to apply

[cloud ridge]

Send me an invite, I'll start stocking up on tickets

[digital glacier]

25 seconds for this person.

[cursive vessel]

Some people just get lucky I guess

[stable anvil]

Thats rng without no probability. I used 100 or so coins last time didnt get nothing, i managed to use 150 or so coins and got my first lottery but it was 💩 gold frags. Most the time you get rss crates

[cursive vessel]

I got 500 squadron things this time around. Wanted 500 behe but not gonna complain too much as they're good too 🤣

[raw breach]

Ohh we have one of those also

[rain swallow]

It must be the much talked about VIP benefits

[astral stratus]

Beat you all. Twice even same second

Not me though

[raw breach]

Do u know if this player even exist? I kinda feel maybe some type of bot. Cuz so many at within 40 sec range.

[raw breach]

Impossible

And same crate reward even

[rain swallow]

hahaha I don't know, but I felt jealous

[rocky otter]

Me couldn’t get any big rewards in 2 migo

[astral stratus]

Same bruh.... Same....

[rocky otter]

[thorny plume]

We have same

Its quite broken

[digital glacier]

Double Double 😳😵 you win with that screenshot 🙈

[thorny plume]

Just shows how broken it is tbh 🤷 we had same last round. Couple more years and its fixed i guess

[coarse blaze]

In migo 69 it will be fixed

[viscid ore]

this last Migo was one of the worst

[digital glacier]

And me over here
logged into 4 accounts at once
using at least 40 (to 62) tokens each
0 specialty items 🤣

[coarse blaze]

Nooo.. don't say that... we didn't see next one

[viscid ore]

Lol...at moment😂😂

[coarse blaze]

Little details ...

😂

So exited for new one😍

[viscid ore]

there is no limit to the worst, and in SOS they have taken this proverb seriously and do not want to contradict it

[cloud ridge]

Any update on Nexus that they'll no doubt make worse some how?

[coarse blaze]

That's old stuff?

We didn't have nexus this migo

[rain swallow]

Making events that are already bad, worse is one of the devs' special abilities, I bet that now instead of 6 days it will be 15

[coarse blaze]

Looks like they switch nexus and ad in migo

We have ad now.. next is nexus

[cloud ridge]

it should be next for us, just wondering how much worse they've made it

[glossy siren]

Not open to play yet to see how bad it is in ptr

[cloud ridge]

next week hopefully then, not that they listen to ptr anyway

[coarse blaze]

Ptr Is joke now

[glossy siren]

Now?

PTR been joke for years

[coarse blaze]

Exactly

So don't count much on it

[glossy siren]

but atleast nexus was good for glory

[coarse blaze]

Like they announced new heros.. but they r not in ptr

[glossy siren]

They even announced they were releasing them in ptr

[coarse blaze]

Yes.. I like it more than ad

[glossy siren]

still waiting😂

[coarse blaze]

*pass cocktail

[west fog]

Oh my, I'm sorry I guess? Did I explain it in a too complicated way?

[cloud ridge]

Anything that is more than a word is too complicated for them

Maybe even a letter

[west fog]

I'm feeling bad about them waking those seniors from their slumber, just for my little observation.

[stable cosmos]

Good for prizes should never be the baseline for an event being good. Nexus sucked. The timeline was horrendous, the playstyle was awful. The fact that a bit like AD you could be locked from earning anything just because of how the game played was terrible.

Their pvp events need to be inclusive. They'll cater to whales regardless cos whales are strong. It does not mean that smaller alliances should get blocked from playing...

[cedar hawk]

idiots' devs stp lead state we stay

[raw light]

[vale yoke]

They've made improvements though which is a different word than optimizations and surely couldn't possibly ever maybe potentially mean the same thing

[pallid willow]

They nerfed jungle gems or just trash luck?

[zealous scroll]

2days without bomb rewards barely get pass lvl20 i manage to finish lvl21 but the bonus round will fail. No bomb no coins to buy

[pallid willow]

This girl won 3 times pot already these days 🤣🤣

Howww

I thought the crappy luck was equal for everyone after one win in something

[tame jackal]

Why can't we recycle items like we normally do at festival events? 😑

[bright crypt]

We have one option to recycle in the material furnace

If you recycle from there, you can get points for both events

[zealous scroll]

Wow. I just mention about first sentinel last time that they didn't repeat it and now they made it happened.

[bright crypt]

That's good, isn't it?

[bright crypt]

I know how frustrating can be. One time I got the 777 from my farm character, with the 2 free chances per day. For my main I never got it, even after spending a lot of the tokens.
Would be nice if we get some guaranteed rewards after certain amount of tokens used 😅

[stable cosmos]

I think 777 lies a bit. Some of those wins probably aren't. Just the devs adding little backends to make it look like someone has won. The likelihood of winning 3 in a row is astronomical unless there is more jiggery pokery going on about letting big spenders win more often.

Which i have no proof at all for but its not impossible for this company

[tame jackal]

But that won't help in the days when we will need to recycle mercenary influence and tactical gear design

[stable cosmos]

Optimizations always make things suck. Imagine improvements will do the same thing. I'm struggling with how they could make the gameplay worse though as its so incredibly bad already.

[bright crypt]

The options in the material furnace change every day

[frozen sequoia]

[raw light]

Is just spending

Eris = Sidiberd account , main setter of THO so whales so spending

[vale yoke]

A banner for the planned losers just saying LOL?

[fallow lodge]

devs you are so stupid. are you trying to limit coins for prize pool i think you are you dodgy fs. not even hit it yet soooo

[raw light]

Is hit from last time , they didn’t reset it

[stable cosmos]

I dunno, half figure their fix for lag is gonna be only 10 people of any alliance at once. Just to make it super exclusive

The big alliances will hate that too though.

[fallow lodge]

they also start the operation festival with red crystal were yesterday on svs...are they dumb or are they doing this crap on purpose?

[raw light]

Purpose

[bright crypt]

Hello Bolton. Some players are reporting the same issue. For me the event worked fine, so I recommend to open one ticket to the help and support.

[pallid willow]

But I've seen lucifer in it even he's not winning 3 times in 3-4 days lol and there's no way she spends more than him

[bright crypt]

The task will be back on Friday to spend the pearls

[zealous scroll]

Sideberd quit already?

[olive sluice]

Enlistment is a bad joke since years, and it's getting worse every month!
I do everything to get it down (yes, I know all the stuff you can do to speed it up), but now we have SvS again and I will need another 3 months at this rate to clear it!
If I want to play SvS, it's not exactly unlikely that I get another hit, because SvS became a "who kills the most troops for personal points", so it will just fill up even more.
State transfer is next week, I'd need to discharge over a million of troops if I want to transfer, even when skipping SvS.
Did those totally disconnected devs ever notice that an overpowered whale kills like a dozen millions of troops in single hit??
And that a duty rate of 5454 is just beyond ridiculous when we need 7M duty?
@merry scroll

[stable cosmos]

They like it like this. Want you to buy the overpriced duty

[tardy night]

Battles have rng. It doesn't matter until stats are super close but if they are, a certain randomness will occur in rounds.

....only actual realistic element in their battles is randomness tbh.

Equipment jams, people get shellshocked, shots miss. Thats randomness in a battle. It's one of the few things they try to be real about.

And it's barely noticeable unless you meet such people extremely close to you in everything stat related. They make for the best opponents in testing your gaming skills.

He would have health gems on hunter. Check his troops stats and engine gems for hunters.

That is an autowin for defence in this event.

[unreal lichen]

This is more likely the skills (could possibility come from truck, airplan, status so on) cause both side zero survivors. Then the defender wins.

I can see your troops and behemoths are burned before they die. That must be some kind of attack effect.

Could be tempest arms too, I guess.

[stable cosmos]

Weren't they adding a turn limit to that? If there is one it explains the loss in that if its not done at that point the defender wins.

Not thatyou should lose, but if there is a limit and it ends on armageddon you do because defender claims advantage

[marble grove]

Just remembered this event... I guess we didn't make the final rewards; but funnier is only 3 of 100 would have been won anyway 😂

[calm meteor]

In my range there are so many different players winning so I don't think it's rigged.

[tiny quiver]

I’ll take the poly…better then the RRS crates I keep getting

[calm meteor]

but I didn't get jackpot either 😂

[calm meteor]

Yup, poly is useful for most players. Though I really want to win those behemoth crates 😂

[tiny quiver]

🎵 “ ..dreamer you know she’s just a dreamer…🎵

[calm meteor]

Hahahaha. Well true 🥹

[tiny quiver]

lol aren’t we all..we keep dreaming the bugs will go away…bundles and paid events will slow down….but 5 yrs and each season gets worse…but we keep dreaming…

Have a great day everyone

[calm meteor]

Well you're right. Right now we really need the events to slow down and bugs to go away.

Have a great day as well.

[stable cosmos]

Neither of those things will occur.

[cedar hawk]

Cancal lead stat

[crude stratus]

[cursive vessel]

👀

[tardy night]

You gotta keep the lower portion of that great feedback mods. Bring it back It was essential insight into the workings of the brilliant mind of bigggggg bosssss

[civic star]

Looks like I missed something 😂

[crude stratus]

Because of?

[alpine bridge]

👀

[glacial moat]

@calm meteor this is not 697 player , thank you

Not busy in talking with pea about my baby ?

[rocky otter]

[cedar hawk]

to much noisy , clam down

[glacial moat]

Which part not clam ?

697 suggest leading state from 10% state add to 20%

Please help me do the feed back MOD

[cedar hawk]

we scare 877 , we cancal allaince

[glacial moat]

From 28 state add to 56 state

Before state transfer 10 days can not disband and Tempest , Gem

Close the auction house

Add Pet and tanks point

[cedar hawk]

clam down , dey don care u 😂

[glacial moat]

OP hero extra add 10% hero stat transfer rating

Offline player not including transfer rating from 31 days extended to 90 days

[cedar hawk]

we so scare 877 , cancal lead stat

[glacial moat]

The troops quantity transfer rating calculated based on thirty days as the average, not the rating on the same day.

The 26% reseaech stat ratio is also too low in transfer rating . The impact of HQ level research and troop tier combat power should also be increased by at least 100%.

[cedar hawk]

my mistriss hav mental brake , pls ignor

her no slepping

[tardy night]

Where ma man spectral embrace at. Dude wanted evidence of dyz being given info of transfers.

[raw breach]

This game makes some people very crazy

Yidi 697 leave the girl alone, this is just a game

[glacial moat]

Don’t need game dev give you

This game many smart player if you will to use a little bit time to find

#🆘︱sos_discussion message

0.065% not the secret

Many player posted in official channel

[tardy night]

Don't go looking for how those smart players found the percentages. Conscientious players only here

[glacial moat]

If the conscientious player use their time to find out the battle engine only work 27 round , will be more values 😂

[tardy night]

What does anyone need 27 for. 5 enough with the stat gap in a year. 💪

Remove all settlement protection buffs. Let the dopamine flow it isn't hitting the same anymore 💩

[glacial moat]

Agree , game dev should stop all bundle and reset all acc

To make the stat gap fair

[tardy night]

Better to have a swiping screen at login. Ai CS icon can be taken away

Too much time taken to click

Instant win only. 5k$ per day

[cedar hawk]

remov lead stat

[glacial moat]

Why keep play and moaning all the way through, if the aim of the game isn‘t to have fun?

[cedar hawk]

game for spend , not for fun

remov lead stat

[tardy night]

Better to moan every 3 months. Save it up a little for added impact

[cedar hawk]

no moan , we quite evry tranfser

we vry sirius tis tim

remov lead stat or we quite

[cursive vessel]

You're the only state who blabbers on and on and on about leading states. Everyone else just gets on with it 😅

[cedar hawk]

we pay for play , mor impotrant then al u

[slate fossil]

@errant hazel take a look here:#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[cloud ridge]

He'll be lurking

[cedar hawk]

remov lead stat

cancal lead stat

[cloud ridge]

Cancel FP!

[glacial moat]

He is not from 697 , I’m

[last hazel]

[glacial moat]

We don’t want out leading state this time, we want the leading less loophole

[cloud ridge]

@sage girder help your DYZ guys out

[stuck plume]

I have been trying everything for days and not one things moved current duty rate.

[raw breach]

Month 5 in enlistment and still 300k to go. Tried already all possible things.

[cursive barn]

I totally agree with you, I have exactly the same problem, the office is really slow despite the changes in books and the activities that we have to do on a daily basis. SOS, you have to unblock this bug.

[stuck plume]

Just going to delete troops, you raise a ticket with customer service and get scripted nonsensical replies

[cursive barn]

I feel like the duty rate is increased a bit like he wants😒

[bronze pulsar]

I remember when my duty rate was 120000 now it will not go above 5454

[cloud ridge]

Enlistment is some made up mumbo jumbo by FP, they'll only "fix" it when it suits them.

As they don't have to deal with it then won't care, they'll just push for bundles to get the Enlistment coins

[stuck plume]

Not found anything that moves it

Just getting duty points from tasks and gathering in settlement. Nothing else seems to give points

[bronze pulsar]

Some weeks ago

[stuck plume]

Never seen mine hit anything over the 7k i have now

[stuck plume]

I bet it was a short blast at 120k, I heard some people had a high rate randomly for a short time

[bronze pulsar]

Was amazing

[stable cosmos]

There is a way to finesse it but i don't understand how. The only thing I've ever experienced is that the rate tanks if you pull stuff while its good.

Also a bigger hospital makes it worse, and some of the survival books make it a lot worse

[stuck plume]

Survival books gone after migo. I heard don't use books for bigger hospital. But that only ever impacted base rate and never getting close to that

Some say pull troops out daily, others say leave. I don't think anything makes a difference

[mighty gorge]

The book stats stay after migo.

[stable cosmos]

This. Possibly. Can't confirm if it works but its apparently a thing

Yeah, books are a permanent buff

[stuck plume]

Hospital empty and tasks just give points. Does not impact rate

[stuck plume]

Really, I better remember to change from current healing mode

[pallid willow]

I don't have enlistment often tbh cause i try to be careful, but if its of use the only thing I've noticed is if you leave them there without claiming the troops but still do your dailies and stuff it does have some increase rate spikes but im unsure why that happens maybe that's a bug itself 🤣 the most i had in enlistment was like 200k troops and it took me like a week and half to get them out cause i had some coins but still only like 90 coins or so, and the other times I've had I don't see a problem to get them out soon, perhaps the more often you fill enlistment it makes the duty rate automatically become slower by default?

[stuck plume]

Bad timing with transfer, just have to delete the troops

[full rampart]

If you need help from a moderator please use the mod tag, if a mod is not in the chat please be mindful and respectful towards people who might have different timezones.

[stable cosmos]

CS never admitted duty was busted. The CMs have never come back with any solution. The only thing we can say is that duty is behaving exactly as the devs want or it could have been changed 3-4 years ago

Honestly i wish they'd forget all the fancy tat. Duty rate of 25000 and run with it. No weird math

Which i think i submitted a year back or something. Zilch so not bothwring again

[stuck plume]

Yeah just run at Base duty

[iron schooner]

Why don't you use your real name? You're not Yidi.

[still tapir]

Enlistment has never worked and only got worst when they put in expanded rally research. And the only other option they came up with was a decoration you had to spend on. 😂

[iron schooner]

Hiding your identity and speaking for others shows what kind of person you are.

[digital glacier]

It's not random

[pallid willow]

I still think duty may increase the more online you are cause i never had slow duty rate for long 😅

[stuck plume]

These help with topping points up throughout the day

But not rate

[digital glacier]

It has nothing to do with being online or offline.

[cloud ridge]

Don't see how I'm being disrespectful by tagging someone who's had history with this convo and I'm sure would be more than happy to help as they we're before.

They can reply when they want, I'm not rushing anyone afterall

[full rampart]

I’m here so you can let me know what help do you need and i will try to help you myself

[cloud ridge]

Ask DYZ, they need help with their leading state issues, embrace seemed quite found of it so seemed best to help

[pallid willow]

Are you dev? How can you even tell if not dev nobody knows 🤣 for me the only members i see of my alliances to complain about slow duty rate i see them online very little during the day, me online for quite a while and never slow duty rate 🤷‍♀️

[stuck plume]

I am online all day and no movement in rate

There is obviously some factors applied that they don't want to tell us

[pallid willow]

Then mystery mystery

[digital glacier]

The duty rate isn't broken.
When they released a higher hospital level from 30 to P13. And people leveled it up and then they duty rate went to absolute 💩 that's not the duty rate being broken.
Its simply their formula, and that extra hospital capacity makes duty rate bad. Really bad. At the cost of having less permanently dead to go to the enlistment because they're going to the hospital instead.
Trust me. I got an alt at hq 30, they has a level 1 hospital 😂 I'm never disappointed in that ones duty rate 😂🤣

[pallid willow]

My hospital upgraded asap always and still my duty high😌🙃

[full rampart]

Just to clarify something, we are here to make feedbacks about the game, not X player or Z alliance, the reason the feedback wasn’t posted as you wished was me, not him.

The feedback reporting channel is for in game issues or suggestions not to target anyone.

I belive he had posted the asked feedback but removing the names, as I mentioned before, this server is a community server, for all players and all alliances in the game and we wish to leave the interstates problems or arguments ourside the server.

[stable cosmos]

Yep, thats the opposite of making duty better. Mines not going over p10 unless forced

[pallid willow]

Well i did all the opposite and i never have slow duty tho 🤷‍♀️

[stable cosmos]

And i don't really wanna do the polymer research for it either... not much choice there though

[stuck plume]

So they need to fix formula for p15 hospital size

[cloud ridge]

It is feedback about the game is it not, about how some get treated differently compared to others and using examples is not an issue no.

If the feedback was something like, x alliance or x player always gets their way and this should stop then fair another as it is singling out but still warranted to raise as it affected everyone else.

[full rampart]

As to add to this, Spectral is not a moderator in 697, and has no “founding” on any alliance.

As if DYZ or anyone need help, they can ask here and if know the answer we will answer as we do to any players, if we don’t know, we can only help that much. Sadly we don’t know all informations and as soon as we find out information that is of interest we always post

[stable cosmos]

They won't change anything about duty, ever. If they were going to it would have happened already. Buy bundles, buy duty.

[pallid willow]

Sure i dont let my enlistment have 1m troops cause like why would i? Lol i think only solution is, if know your duty rate is slow most times then try to keep hospital empty enough for enlistment to not get full

[cloud ridge]

It's been posted time and time where people seem to get very lucky, questionably lucky at times which by FP standards I'm sure isn't pure luck.

[digital glacier]

Umm. You don't have to be a dev to figure stuff out.
I'm one of the smartest players in this game. I have reverse engineered several formulas devs use. I'm good with math, critical thinking and problem solving.
I've figured out more than a year ago several huge factors that effect the duty rate. No, I haven't figured out the duty rate formula to work 100% but I have gotten close. The thing I believe it to be is similar to the state transfer... Certain power is certain transfer ticket cost. Like certain recovery rate gives you certain recovery amount.

[full rampart]

That’s exactly why the feedback was made mentioning people being favorites and askinf for funplus to be fair, just not giving names

[stuck plume]

Maybe I should demolish my hospital 🤣

[stable cosmos]

I just wish the tooltip was true. Can't even get them to admit its wrong

[cloud ridge]

They've asked above, DYZ, so speak with them or Embrace given his engagement on the topic prior

[cloud ridge]

But the names and allainces are valid to mention to call FP out no, otherwise if it ever reached top 10 feedback or got dev feedback they could just make a bs answer easier

[full rampart]

Well i think they are free to reach out to me or any dlmod, if they need help or have questions, i might have missed them asking for help

[pallid willow]

Right right mr smart then why my duty never slow rate even tho i have hospital upgraded since it came out? And why others slow? Is not about the hospital, nobody knows it really, only devs

[stable cosmos]

Hospital 100% makes it worse. Early on my enlistment would give me rates like 75000. Now im lucky to breach 3000 with it bigger

Wish i could drop it back to lvl1 now

[pallid willow]

Well mine is not🤷‍♀️ maybe that's a bug on some accounts then

[cloud ridge]

Quack

[stuck plume]

You're just lucky lol

[full rampart]

I feel mentioning a certain individual or an alliance is a calling out, and our server doesn’t allow calling out any members of it, and of the game, as i said, our mission is to be an community server for all players of state of survival, and the rest of the issues between players or alliances we try to help solve as we can, with the tools we have.

[full rampart]

Hello Ruby, please let me know how can i help

[vale yoke]

[full rampart]

Thankkk youuu i missed this

[cloud ridge]

What if we put a bit saying not calling out 👀

[full rampart]

[cloud ridge]

Your welcomes

[pallid willow]

I still think it comes down to online activity, ive had my farm with enlistment full often and im way less online there, even by doing all dailies if you only come online one or twice for a bit after the dailies is not enough, at least in my farm experience that has a p5 hospital in a p5 account lol duty slow asf and im barely online, in my main online a lot and duty fast

[glacial moat]

About the leading state transfer rating loophole

Should be from 10% leading state add to 20% make the game more balance

28 state to 56 state

[full rampart]

So you would like to make a feedback about the percentage of leading states to be increased to 20% of the number of the states on the list?
Did i understand good?

[glacial moat]

1. From 28 state add to 56 state
2. Before state transfer 10 days can not disband Tempest , Gem
3. Close the auction house
4. Add Pet and tanks combat power transfer rating
5. OP hero add the extra rating
6. Offline player not including transfer rating from 31 days extended to 90 days
7. The troops quantity transfer rating calculated based on thirty days as the average, not the rating on the same day.
8. 1B transfer rating too much should back to 900M or 800M , 1B can not make it balance
9. The 26% reseaech stat ratio is also too low in transfer rating . The impact of HQ level research and troop tier combat power should also be increased by at least 100%.

[raw light]

[digital glacier]

It is about the hospital. 🤣

I have a hq 30 with a level 1 hospital 🤣
I'm never disappointed with the duty rate. 😂😆

[pallid willow]

Is not, literally the slower hospital has slower duty rate so it makes no sense to say is the hospital 🙄

[digital glacier]

It makes no sense because you don't understand how it works. Like a lot of the game

[pallid willow]

My main has p13 and p11 hospital in my both accounts and never slow duty rate 🤦🏻‍♀️

My farm p5 slow duty rate with low hospital, and activity is low in there obviously lol

[full rampart]

On Behalf of Ruby

Observation:
The transfer requirements are not fair for everyone as they are now.

Consequences:
While some players can benefit of transfer, others cannot, and players feel left out.

Suggested Solution:

1. From 28 state add to 56 states as leading states
2. Before state transfer 10 days can not disband Tempest , Gem
3. Close the auction house
4. Add Pet and tanks combat power transfer rating
5. OP hero add the extra rating
6. Offline player not including transfer rating from 31 days extended to 90 days
7. The troops quantity transfer rating calculated based on thirty days as the average, not the rating on the same day.
8. 1B transfer rating too much should back to 900M or 800M , 1B can not make it balance
9. The 26% reseaech stat ratio is also too low in transfer rating . The impact of HQ level research and troop tier combat power should also be increased by at least 100%

What do you think about it?

[glacial moat]

Very nice , thanks MOD

[full rampart]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[pallid willow]

It makes no sense cause you're not right🤣🤣 my upgraded hospitals have never slow duty rate, mr genius that has to say is genius to feel his genius validated 😝

[glacial moat]

Thank you ❤️

[full rampart]

Mufasa is amazing with maths, sometimes he leave me speechless

[full rampart]

You are welcome

[pallid willow]

I don't doubt it but his maths not "math-ing" jn this case 😌

If he so smart can he explain why my both accounts with high hospital upgrade never have duty rate problem?

Both separate accounts 🙃 farm also separate and slow duty rate even tho slow plasma level hospital 🙃

[digital glacier]

How many alts do you have to test this?
How much biocaps have you spent to reset and redo survival guide talents?
How many times have you upgraded your hospital with troops in your enlistment?
How many times have you wrote down the number of troops in your hospital / enlistment / in comparison to your hospital size / enlistment capacity?

[full rampart]

I noticed that duty rate is higher when theres more troops inside, i always remove all of them only when is full, I don’t take out on piece’s

[vale yoke]

The slowed duty rate thing has been a bit of an issue for a while. I didn't realize it was linked to the hospital, though, and honestly, Mufasa has never given me a reason to doubt him as his information has been very accurate in reflecting what I've also experienced.

[pallid willow]

I never change survival books.

[full rampart]

Liannin

[digital glacier]

Exactly. Lol. 🤣🤣

[pallid willow]

Well i doubt it cause i literally have no issue with my duty rate when my both hospitals in my both accounts have upgraded hospitals lol

I understand the friendship thing but the friendship doesn't mean hes right in everything

[vale yoke]

Ehh? Friendship thing? Who's talking about friendship? I'm saying Mufasa 's information has never led me wrong. Not his friendship.

[pallid willow]

Exactly what? I never change the books and i never have duty rate problem, now you gonna say is the books not the hospital? Lol?

[tardy night]

Is a moat around a monopoly a loophole

[vale yoke]

His friendship will have me behind the WaWa breaking bottles

[cursive barn]

@solar thunder Even if we change the books, nothing changes.

[digital glacier]

The book has 3 factors that effect the duty rate 😂

[pallid willow]

So you're not friends? 😏

[vale yoke]

Mufasa, are we friends?

I don't actually know.

[solar thunder]

Someone summoned me?

[vale yoke]

I thought I was just some girl he sometimes shared Tempest info with and admired his beard.

[cursive barn]

Hello 🤪

[vale yoke]

Did you smell it too?

[solar thunder]

I got the ping

[digital glacier]

2 of those 3 are factors are the exact same 2 factors that happens when you upgrade your hospital 😂

[cursive barn]

Sorry, I woke up accidentally.😶‍🌫️

[vivid grove]

Wait I have to reset books now too

[solar thunder]

Anything where Sick Graham can help you with?

[pallid willow]

I have all the books upgraded which they have said makes the duty rate problem and i never changed them even after hearing about it and i stilk don't have duty rate troubles at all in the slightest lmao what's even the point

[visual frigate]

But how many troops do you kill each CC?

[full rampart]

I need to translate what does it mean

[wide wraith]

i dont kill my troops at CC if i can help it

[full rampart]

I was typing the same

[pallid willow]

The most i got in enlistment was 200-300k troops and in my other account weaker 800k troops and in both im never having enlistment rate troubles, the 800k took me 2 weeks to claim out and the 200-300k took me a week or so

[full rampart]

On svs on the other hand…

[pallid willow]

Literally the reason why I don't think any of the books or hospital are the problem

[visual frigate]

Right. I think the 'critical thinker' is talking about millions of dead.

[wide wraith]

i not there either lol

[tardy night]

Monopolies safeguard their interests via excessive regulations which raise barriers to entry in competition against them.

I.e moat

[solar thunder]

I am going back to my couch with blanket and a cup of chickensoup
Wish you all a great day

[full rampart]

Ohhhh i understand now

[pallid willow]

Well he never said so, he said only enlistment duty in general 😌

[vale yoke]

Feel better!!

[full rampart]

I still think the higher the amountof troops there the buggere the duty

Bigger

[pallid willow]

Yea I've also seen that, the more troops in enlistment actually has made the duty rate go faster, i still don't see the trouble of it in some accounts

[vivid grove]

My last enlistment lasted 7 weeks

[vale yoke]

I have a player whose enlistment lasted about that long. Two months or so.

[wide wraith]

cant remember the last time i had enlistment

[vivid grove]

I was so close to just deleting the troops

[pallid willow]

But are they active tho? As in active active the active type you see them online almost at any time of the day

[vale yoke]

I'll just leave my guys in enlistment like "you're dead to me until you're of use, quit whining." And then do whatever. Sometimes I remember to take them out.

[full rampart]

Mine also, around 2 months because i kept removing them every day bit by bit… next svs i was zeroed again and i left there there to rest and i think in around 1-2 weeks i took all out

[vale yoke]

And yeah, my player with the long enlistment is daily active. That was with doing his dailies and gathering, etc.

I'm thinking he was taking little bits out at a time, and finally he got tired and just left them alone lol

Obviously I'm not playing his game so I'm not in there to see what was happening, so this is secondhand and not fully reliable

[full rampart]

Yesss that was definitely the case for me also, I thought the less troops the faster will go, when I believe is the more troops the faster will go

[brazen peak]

[wide wraith]

i still have 18016 duty coins

[pallid willow]

Exactly just leaving it there gets the duty rate stable, is all patience and i think online, maybe clicking stuff or something, cause really dailies alone are not enough for duty rate, my trash farm has like 2 months enlistment when it happens and i only do dailies there then rarely pop in it during the rest of the day maybe once more and that's all, duty slow, that's why i think something online is related maybe just click stuff constantly or idk

[vale yoke]

This all kinda supports that there's something off about the mechanic, if there are these varying experiences. So Mufasa may still be correct in identifying a key part of that.
I'm not a lawyer, I'm just the devil's advocate

[tame oxide]

why did it fail? every day same troops, same heroes behemoths and vehicles

[full rampart]

I don’t know how much online time is affecting it because i was barely on but it could be, as liannin said i’m not really also sure how the whole mechanism work

[jolly harness]

No Migos buff anymore?

[pallid willow]

I stilk think hes not right 😌 like i said all the players I've seen complaining about duty rate, in my states, are online only for dailies and basic stuff then offline a lot🤷‍♀️

[vale yoke]

But would you agree that it could be a part of some of the issues for some of us?

[tame oxide]

not that
i killed it after with same troops

[full rampart]

You killed it after migo?

[pallid willow]

Only devs know and only devs will know 🤷‍♀️ since players like snow are not interested in this game much anymore to really find out exactly why unfortunately

[strange leaf]

Duty rate, wounded rate, healing systems, in state of survival are just bad. They haven't really adapted to the growth of the game.

[pallid willow]

Maybe devs will say it one day but i doubt it cause it gives them moneymoney

[tame oxide]

it's a few minutes betwen them today one ralyy killed then one failed then killed lvl6

[vale yoke]

Well, Snow passed away, so... May she be resting peacefully

[full rampart]

One of my smart moddies wanted to ask something but hes shy

@brazen peak go go

[strange leaf]

They need to overhaul the healing system completely.

[brazen peak]

🙈🙈

[vale yoke]

Titan, ask, please??

[pallid willow]

I know, i miss her knowledge and personality 🙈 rest in peace she is im sure 🪽

[brazen peak]

Did you tried to use behemoth troop formation? To kill that dino

[brazen peak]

Hi lianin 🤗

Tallie I will take away your coffee again 🙂

[full rampart]

[brazen peak]

Also if you use same airplane while attacking dino

[full rampart]

You had a good question for Sipri

[strange leaf]

Flat % healing would be straight up better than what we have now. for example 1 hour batch = %5 or 10k troops per 1 hour.

[vale yoke]

She was amazing. Such a fantastic woman. The corners of our little community darkened when her light turned off. I just hope she's shining brightly wherever she is, maybe cussing out an angel or three.

[strange leaf]

They increased the tempo of SVS which means the general player base has to heal more and it cuts into the game play making it unfun.

That or you just go into enlistment and deal with the trash duty rate.

[tame oxide]

same formation same aircraft

[brazen peak]

That's more strange to lose with gen 18, did you had any tempest change or eco to war mode

[tame oxide]

no change no nothing that's why i asked, maybe someone had same issue

[brazen peak]

That's true, do you want to make a feedback report over this?

[tame oxide]

i'm allways on war mode since i started more than 4y ago 🤣🤣🤣

[brazen peak]

The least possibility is when some hero performed their skills which have % of chance to get used. , by this report your march killed 400k less troops . Try see if both time skills of both hero or behemoth worked

[strange leaf]

Percentage-Based Healing System:

Instead of healing a fixed number of troops, healing would be based on a percentage of the total wounded troops (e.g., 10% of your wounded at a time). This system scales better, so whether you have 1k or 1M troops, the time to heal stays reasonable.

Speedup Adjustments:

Speedups would also be percentage-based, reducing the remaining healing time by a percentage instead of a fixed amount, making them more effective no matter how many troops need healing.

Fixing the "Full Hospital, Few Troops" Issue:

If the hospital is full but only has a small number of troops (like 1k instead of 1M), the system would:

• Scaling Speedups for Smaller Batches: Smaller troop numbers will need fewer speedups, keeping the system balanced and avoiding long healing times for minor wounded numbers.

[tame oxide]

there is a difference at hero and behe but the question is why?
it never failed against lvl6 why now?

[strange leaf]

Basically you'd create a scaling formula based on the wounded troops.

Example you have 1m troops it would heal e.g 10% and if you had 1k it would heal 100%

Does that make sense?

[brazen peak]

Yes , That's a great feedback and this change be very helpful for players , I can post this as feedback for you if you say.

[strange leaf]

10 million wounded = 1% (1h speedup)
1 million = 10% (1h speedup)
10k wounded = 50% (1h speedup)
1k wounded = 100% (1h speedup)

That means for lower amount of troops they are slightly less speedup efficient but most people don't really care about 1k wounded as long as it's completed within an hour.

obviously you would scale numbers based on game data.

[strange leaf]

Sure you can compile the information. I just threw it together. I never hold my breath in this game with clueless devs who don't play their own game.

Duty rate is on a scaling formula and that has been perma f'd forever lol.

they think one month waiting for your SVS troops to be brought back is good gameplay.

[digital glacier]

Sorry I disappeared. I was trying to do some tricks for my account 😆
Anyhow, the survival book DOES have a HUGE impact on the duty rate. It depends on HOW and WHEN you change the book.

@vale yoke

[vale yoke]

You still didn't tell me if we're friends tho.

[digital glacier]

Send a picture of your medical mastery portion. I can tell you if you have it set to where it helps you, or hurts you.

[vale yoke]

hides survival books

[full rampart]

He is shy

[pallid willow]

I have all nods completed, which they said it slows the duty rate, but i kept it that way and still no troubles 🤔

[vale yoke]

Only sometimes lol

[mighty gorge]

I'm shy too

[vale yoke]

I just kinda resent the implications that just because two people are or are not acquainted, there is or isn't blanket agreement. If someone is wrong, they get called out worse as friends.

[full rampart]

SUUUREEEEEEEE

[digital glacier]

And I wanted to bring this up last svs after they made the "over enlistment capacity change" but I knew if I did some dumb F would probably sabatoge and ruin it, but I'm so sick and tired of the enlistment discussion because it's more complex and people don't understand how it fully works.
If you hate the current enlistment rate, you complain about how long it takes, etc, whatever it is.
This svs, get your enlistment to go over capacity, you'll thank me 36 hours after svs ends. But, I'm sure yt Michelle already knows this 🤣🤣🤣

[vale yoke]

And frankly, someone should know a little better than to ever assert I would blindly support someone's statements because we may be friends.

I'm friends with lots of people, or so I'm told. I'll still tell ya if you're wrong, as I'd expect to be told similarly. And boy oh boy, does Mufasa tell me.

[mighty gorge]

I concurr. Friend 😆

[pallid willow]

Well since his theory does not apply to my personal experience I don't think he's right 🤷‍♀️

[digital glacier]

You've probably never personally experienced duty rate being above 120,000, am I right?

[vale yoke]

I'm still giggling over winning a contest I only accidentally entered.

[pallid willow]

Is not like my 1 account has this "luck" js 2 separate accounts im active in

[pallid willow]

I don't remember the duty rate of when i had the most but i never take more than 1-2 weeks to take out of enlistment troops

[mighty gorge]

I would have entered if i had the ability to even articulate half of what I wanted without thinking how to. I'm still waiting for one of them to answer my question or even just acknowledge it

[pallid willow]

And that's when i have over 200k in there

[pallid willow]

But you're friends tho

[vale yoke]

So are you and I, or at least I thought so. Mufasa hasn't actually said we're friends, though.

So by your logic, I should agree with you, right?

[mighty gorge]

Trust me, if liannin wants you to know her thoughts, friend or not she'll give them lol

[pallid willow]

I do consider you my friend yes but i think you both have more time of being friends or so it looks like in monkeh server 😅

And in this game i see often, friendship takes the heavier even if people not right about something 🤣

[cursive barn]

No change with me

[mighty gorge]

Even i think sometimes, did I get a reality slap haha

[vale yoke]

We aren't even in the same state lol we met here, and only recently actually started chatting as acquaintances. Just like you and I aren't in the same state, and met here.

LOL

I'll put it directly, if someone is wrong, and they're my friend, I'm extra harsh telling them they're wrong, because I don't associate with inaccurate, uneducated people.

[mighty gorge]

You harsh. Never!

[vale yoke]

I'm mean.

[mighty gorge]

😂

[vale yoke]

I'm just nice here

Mostly

[pallid willow]

Well alright then, opinions it is rather than friendship for you both i guess xD

[vale yoke]

Anywhere there's large groups of people, really

[full rampart]

Cerb is the only scary one here

[vale yoke]

[full rampart]

Yesss didn’t i tell you??

[mighty gorge]

Sometimes. But even Liannin can make me go "oop" now and then. And honestly the pair of us together here sometimes. Well.

[pallid willow]

But now I even wanna fill my enlistment just to prove him wrong 🤣 thats how sure i am the hospital neither the books have anything to do with it

[vale yoke]

We're darlings

[mighty gorge]

Like a ray of sunshine

[full rampart]

Saturday is the day

[vale yoke]

If I'm being really, really honest, I want you and him to test this together

[full rampart]

Liannin yes… you on the other sideeee…. Debatableeeeeeeee

[pallid willow]

Even if is tested and hes proven wrong he will never admit it and would say this or that was the reason 🤣

[vale yoke]

I'm a ray of sunshine; I'll blind you and might result in medical concerns.

[full rampart]

Nooooo no that way

[strange leaf]

if you have an empty hospital there is a threshold of enlisted troops that will give you a greater duty rate.

[cursive vessel]

I actually have no understanding of how the books impact anything but I don't think mufasa is wrong. It makes sense what's he's saying, in regards to books and hospital

[vale yoke]

More friends?

I'm kidding, but that actually did bother me

Of all things

Ridiculous

[cursive vessel]

Would never have noticed

[pallid willow]

Well yes i do try to empty my hospital pretty much same svs day, tho back when I've had enlistment i didn't empty hospital for around 2-3 days but yea that could be also a good reason, i try to empty it asap after fight

[brazen peak]

That's very strange honestly, I tried search but it's just weird hero and behemoth didn't performed out same it did in first attempt

[vale yoke]

Right?! I'm annoyed I'm even bothered by the implication, and then annoyed I'm even still thinking about it. What a mess.

Gonna go touch some grass. Or whatever I do with grass.

[brazen peak]

I can feel this frustration, I will make a report over this 🤗🤗

[pallid willow]

Its almost like imma hate you cause musafa hates you but ok

[tardy night]

Pretty sure It's good for selling speeds and/or make people push stats to prevent being killed the same way again.

[digital glacier]

So, to make this simple here.
When your hospital is empty.

In medical mastery 1, there are 10 factors that are helping you and 25 that are hurting you for duty recovery rate.

In medical mastery 2.
There's 5 that help you and 26 that hurt you.
Now.
The formula is complex and I haven't been able to break the numbers down into their respective brackets. but here's a picture of how enlistment duty works in sense of the duty rate.

#🆘︱sos_discussion message

[pallid willow]

Like i said i have all nodes completed and still no troubles, but whooooo knowsssss only devs have an answer

[digital glacier]

Lol. Apparently there's no smart people to figure out how duty rate works 🤷😆🤣

LOL

[pallid willow]

Your theory literally says the nodes completed hurt more than help 💀💀💀

[digital glacier]

Its not a theory. It's been proven across accounts with hq 30 with 24-30 hospital level, p10 with 30-p5 hospital, P15 with P10-P15 hospital.

Also, please note, in my so called theory, I did specifically say at the beginning, when your hospital is empty.
If your hospital is full, the numbers for what helps and what hurts you changes.

[pallid willow]

I have them all completed and j don't have duty troubles i guess some people can't understand it 🙃

Lol you add up the hospital thing only after Unamused mentioned it Lmao

[digital glacier]

What 🤷

When you upgrade your hospital, what happens?

[cursive barn]

I just changed the books to put it on medical mastery and it lowered my homework rate instead of increasing it.😅

[pallid willow]

Well i have them all and duty always high rate 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️ literally is not a valid theory if some people has it and others not

Is just like the battle engines that nobody knows for sure why work for some and don't for others

But mr smart won't admit it lol

[digital glacier]

You max medical mastery?

[digital glacier]

High duty rate is based on a lot of factors, it's not biased towards anyone 🤣

[pallid willow]

Exactly 🙃

[digital glacier]

If you never change your book, your duty rate never is changed or effected by the book.
I honestly don't even know why I bother try explaining anything to you, I bet you if my name was monkey king Rambo you would listen and believe me🤣

Ignorance is bliss I guess 🤷

[pallid willow]

How you know i never change the books 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ i just said i kept the Full nodes completed on the hospital

And people were already saying the moment you complete them it nerfs the duty rate, THAT NEVER HAPPENED TO ME

But yes you are right in that one thing i do trust more what monkey says cause he usually backs his stuff up, you may go cry bother him to come give you the right if you're that desperate to be told you're right 🤷‍♀️

[digital glacier]

If you never change the design of medical mastery, regardless what other changes you make to the book. Then....... What I said previously.

Infantry Attack don't change duty rate 😆 but that's in the book too. Guess I need to be a lot more specific with a semantics person

[pallid willow]

Completing the nodes is already a change, mr genius 🤦🏻‍♀️

My duty was fineeee when i finished 1, my duty was also fine after completing the 2nd, change and change and duty still ok 🙂

Maybe i need to specify both were not completed same day yes? Maybe that was needed, days weeks in between 🙂

Still no changes in duty rate 🙂

[digital glacier]

I put $20 in a wallet.
I buy a new wallet
I move that $20 to the new wallet.

Wallet = other survival book upgrades
$20 = your I kept the full nodes on the hospital

If that $20 never changes, then it's a constant factor.

[pallid willow]

Just cause you said so? Ah ok.

Mr developer i guess.

[digital glacier]

Whatever. You're not going to believe anything I have to say even though I've managed to figure out (after some digging) how to get 360,000 duty recover rate the first season of the survival book implementation 🤷 but whatever.

[pallid willow]

I have friends who change their books every ad every svs etc and they don't complain ever about duty rate 🙂

But i guess they must be stupid like me too cause they don't have the problem you said they should have 😀

[digital glacier]

Just because you don't "have problems" doesn't mean you're getting the most out of it.

[zealous scroll]

Is this sentence really correct? After the battle begins? Or before the battle begins

[pallid willow]

Yea right if that was true people would be praising you with the results, results that nobody but you seem to have apparently since most people complain about duty rate 🙂

[cursive vessel]

Maybe it's just me but I dunno why you feel the need to keep making an issue out it. If you don't believe him fine but just move on 🤷‍♀️

[digital glacier]

Most people couldn't tell you how many troops actually are permanently dead in svs if you don't log in until the very end to revive troops 🤣 and that's pretty easy to answer. 🤣

[cursive barn]

Yes

[pallid willow]

I moved on but he keeps claiming peeps except him are dum dum which is not true 🤷‍♀️

[vale yoke]

If I read the books properly, enlistment capacity if increased by a pretty substantial amount while duty rate is increased at a significantly lower rate as compared to the capacity, so it looks like it creates an issue with capacity and rate for some players who maybe incur a lot more dead troops due to their size and approximate strength as well as their hospital capacity.
If someone doesn't fight an awful lot, or doesn't meet the metrics which would cause the issue with reduced duty rate, they wouldn't logically have that issue.

But my books are sad so idk. I just click things and hope.

[digital glacier]

What's your enlistment look like and your hospital look like?
Let's use you as example here.
Maybe we can prove to this lady some facts.

[vale yoke]

And if you're not someone who makes use of this, you really, really wouldn't notice an issue because you've never changed anything in the first place

I don't make use of it, so I didn't even know there was an issue for some people. My books are as they have been

[pallid willow]

My friends i told about are rls with a lot of enlistment, just cause they don't have the problem he says they should have doesn't mean they're stupid or that they don't understand things like he says

[vale yoke]

I don't see where he said anyone was stupid?

[cursive barn]

With book medical

[pallid willow]

And you have slow duty rate?

[vale yoke]

I don't get killed lol

[cursive barn]

With no book medical

[digital glacier]

What problem do I say they should have 🤷
Empty hospital and 5m/5m enlistment and full medical mastery book. Gonna be different than empty medical mastery book or full hospital 🤷

[pallid willow]

You have psychology knowledge yes? We both know theres plenty of ways to say it without the proper word

[digital glacier]

Oh, funny that.

Full medical book provides more negative help than positive help.
And that's what I said before you provided pictorial proof 🤣😆😆🤣

[vale yoke]

There's really not. Making assertions based upon whatever context clues you see is completely based upon your own experience and perception.
Unless he outright said someone is stupid, it wasn't said.

Like, an example, your own statements, Michelle, could be perceived as catty and borderline rude, despite the smiley faces. Should I then conclude that you are a catty and rude person, or would that be incorrect and completely based off my perception of tone rather than any actual statements?