📋︱feedback-discussion

[digital glacier]

Oh, then yes 😊

I don't know the 50,000 names on the executive ladder.
All I know is, 99% of them are useless 🤣

Who for Marketing 🤔

[worldly sable]

I'll apply

and quit if I dislike my given handle

[digital glacier]

Seems like good fit 🤷

I mean. You would be the boss under the owner so. If owner approves, you can use the name 🤷

[worldly sable]

Being Andy Z's mistress has it benefits

[digital glacier]

I got the money department secured, and runs the thinking department with everyone's ideas. 😂

... @worldly sable...
Na, for run the company. Not mods

[mighty gorge]

I'm not sure even I would want that position

[steel musk]

If i applied to be mod, could i keep my complaint about how FP and devs bad

[vale yoke]

I'm gonna need moist and & flavorful reports from you, Mufasa. And if Cerbacon could look into our security, we're gonna need it locked down and crispy for the safety of our players.

[mighty gorge]

You can apply to be a saberlot lookalike

[digital glacier]

New discord account
Annonominninnninity recommended 😂

[digital glacier]

Does Cr7 have the required sense of humor to laugh at the saberlot memes 🤔

That determines my decision 🤷

Who is saberlot anyhow?

[steel musk]

i could help alot..

[digital glacier]

You mean that guy that's here once a month for 5 minutes 🤔

[digital glacier]

I'm sure you could.

[steel musk]

at least he here somtimes. 😂
how many CM they have tho?

[digital glacier]

🤷

1 with 10 different discord accounts 🤷

[steel musk]

dev team then i guess 2 😂

[wide wraith]

my contract was never with Starscape, it was with FP

[mighty gorge]

So you're leaving Lisa in the position she requested 😆

[vale yoke]

Of course, it's Lisa. She gets what she wants, because she's Lisa.

[mighty gorge]

There is that, true 🙈😂

[worldly sable]

[vale yoke]

I kinda wanna see if I can crochet a little stuffed version of that tbh

[worldly sable]

Send me pics if you do

[vale yoke]

If I do, I definitely will

[mighty gorge]

Send me a few real items, i want to see if it blends

[mighty gorge]

Would it be Sabearlot

[vale yoke]

Lol exactly!

[mighty gorge]

So, now we have a textiles division of FP

[vale yoke]

Lol for merch

Duh

[mighty gorge]

Oh yeah, gift store with t-shirts and mugs etc

Little saber beanies

[dense lance]

that would be so darn cute

[vale yoke]

Yup, and we market the discontent as well as the successes. Tee shirts that say things like, "Went full p13/max monkey/etc and all I got was this stupid T-shirt"

[mighty gorge]

After a while, we could market them with built in snap back cords that have pre-recorded sayings

[vale yoke]

But then at the same time, improve in game rewards to be more relevant so the merch is actually more funny than serious

[mighty gorge]

This is all really useful feedback Liannin and team 😂

[vale yoke]

I'm the CEO of our Dream Team, so of course it is.

[mighty gorge]

I mean I'm sure some of the mods are like, we should do that

[peak apex]

still amused by Cerbacon

[vale yoke]

Gotta sell it to the shareholders as something the gen x and younger crowds will enjoy while still having the nostalgia of kitsch that millennial and older will appreciate

[mighty gorge]

I just noticed your profile 😂

[vale yoke]

😘

[peak apex]

[dense lance]

a series of plasma level coffee mugs, coming in sizes for P5, P8, and P13

[peak apex]

Bacon is better when it’s crispy, come ere Cerb I have a zero for you

[dense lance]

P13 is the biggest and has picture of a burning settlement on the bottom

[mighty gorge]

Pfft, just try it little one 😂

[dense lance]

Maybe a gold gorilla for a handle

[vale yoke]

Actually, Auto, I was thinking p13 was temperature reactive, so fire comes up from the bottom when it is full, and as the drink is consumed, the fire goes out

[peak apex]

Listen Linda… I’ll have you know, my troops are chihuahuas

[mighty gorge]

I'll have you know, no substitutes here

[vale yoke]

It's a little more expensive in manufacture cost to do it right, but it can be offset with a better retail value for the unique feature

[dense lance]

Oh that would be perfect, and maybe a little T-Rex on the side that colors in and his eyes glow when he's full of hot coffee

[peak apex]

Reminds me of a mug someone got me once… I have a fear of sloths… the mug has a figure of a sloth in it… I call it my slothee mug..

[candid raptor]

@slim brook @tender knoll

[vale yoke]

Also, all those ideas people came out with, like unicorn and such? Plushies of those

Not big ones, about the size of a standard teddy bear, but yeah

Could retail for 49.99 USD easily, or more.

[dense lance]

I still think a unicorn behemoth with a rainbow mane, diamond hooves and a gore attack would be wonderful (provided I don't have to pay for it)

[peak apex]

I would pay for that

[mighty gorge]

Not for F2P, sorry.

[dense lance]

if we're being honest I, too, would pay for it

[hasty tulip]

1st is inf, second one are riders or hunters?

[peak apex]

[peak apex]

Lemme check one sec

[mighty gorge]

Yes for both attack and defense

While moddy mcmoddington goes and checks

I bought them all already

[vale yoke]

F2p merch that says things like "#FFoA: Future Farmers of the Apocalypse", "I have a main, you wouldn't know it, it's in another state", or "Will Join 4 Caps"

[mighty gorge]

Change out join for mod 😂

[vale yoke]

Lol

[peak apex]

far right is hunter

middle is rider

[vale yoke]

Mods have their own merch. "I'm a player, too" and such

[peak apex]

I'm not a player.. I am a zeroer of all 😌

[vale yoke]

Also, there has to be posters of things like the guides, but also funny ones, like the way to contact cs.

Lol yes yes, you are

[peak apex]

that felt like a pat on the head

[mighty gorge]

"I'm not a player.. I am a zeroer of all farms" - fixed it

[vale yoke]

[peak apex]

moves Cerb above Moose on the zero list

[vale yoke]

Where am I on that list?

[mighty gorge]

Jemma the Joyous, previously known as Survivor.347379

[peak apex]

Liannin.. you don't troll me much... you safe for now

[vale yoke]

And this is why you're my favorite

[peak apex]

you had it spelt right the first time

[mighty gorge]

Wait what....I don't troll you....much

[thorn axle]

Zeroer of farms

[peak apex]

[mighty gorge]

And I wasn't the one that...

[peak apex]

exhibit 2847563834

[mighty gorge]

Anyway, I can get away with it because I'm adorable

[vale yoke]

[peak apex]

nah its just the bacon

[vale yoke]

You really are though

[peak apex]

[vale yoke]

Tbf I think everyone's adorable

[mighty gorge]

Thanks....I think 😂

[peak apex]

prob why I spend most my time here tbh

[vale yoke]

I feel like it stems from mom energy lol

[peak apex]

needs more pink & glitter

[mighty gorge]

No no no, I swear if the next vehicle is personalised go karts I'm blaming you

[peak apex]

why do i relate to this

[peak apex]

ohhh I went go karting on the weekend...

[vale yoke]

DLMOM Jemma the Joyous

[dense lance]

for some reason "Riders" wasn't easy to articulate

[vale yoke]

Reject momerator Liannin

Just think everyone's cute as buttons

[mighty gorge]

I bet it was like the Nintendo real life version of Mario kart 😂

[peak apex]

not reject at all....

[vale yoke]

Pink slipped?

[dense lance]

probably also because I suggested a mildly difficult to use mug that had wheels on the bottom, at first

[mighty gorge]

I'll get my coat....

[peak apex]

they had a bunch of grown adults dressed as mario and luigi when we came off the track.. was hilarious

[peak apex]

over qualified

[vale yoke]

For mod? That can't be why. But I'll accept it lmao

[peak apex]

I once got turned down for a job in Lidl's... they gave that exact reason

[thorn axle]

I got rejected from lidl too

I got no reason though

[peak apex]

thats just rude imo, they could at least give a reason why

[thorn axle]

I like to think I was just simply overqualified for the job 💅🏻

[mighty gorge]

I got rejected too, even my coffee was like I can't expresso just how much I don't care

[peak apex]

[mighty gorge]

OK, terrible joke lol

[thorn axle]

[tired sedge]

or cos you’re too small to reach top shelf

[peak apex]

i once had a job as an electrician... people were shocked

[dense lance]

also the next vehicle was already announced so it's safe 🤣

[mighty gorge]

Chlo found her passport from general

[tired sedge]

i snuck in

[worldly sable]

Are we thinking plane 3 stacks with another plane and we can use it in 2 marches, behemoth style

[dense lance]

I'm wondering if it'll be some hybrid usable on multiple marches so that they no longer have different strengths

[worldly sable]

If not, it means this plane will be spendy enough to be more powerful than either current aircraft within 1 months time

[mighty gorge]

It's an aircraft carrier isn't it

[worldly sable]

[mighty gorge]

Or did I read that wrong

[worldly sable]

Sometimes FP just puts words out

[stiff ether]

Yeah like „Fun“ for example

[dense lance]

subject to change but yes

[mighty gorge]

The way I understood it, is that it won't be a march item but rather it will give bonuses to your heli and plane. We'll probably end up with both though, knowing FP

And supposedly won't cost as much 😆

[dense lance]

"Please note that the Aircraft Carrier (Name TBD) cannot be carried out on a March at the same time as Aircraft. You must choose to carry either an Aircraft or the Aircraft Carrier (Name TBD) for each March." sounds like you opt to use it instead of the existing stinger and helicopter

[untold stag]

The language changed slightly. Before it said the new place would replace the current ones. Now, it says it is interchangeable with them.

Please note that the new Aircraft can be interchanged with the previous generations, and you can choose to deploy one Aircraft per March.

[worldly sable]

I'm js, will be spendy af if able to make any sort of a meaningful change beyond what we already have

Will not cost as much as previous gens reminds me of "dw, we will slow down"

[untold stag]

It will only take you 5 years to max as f2p vs 20

[mighty gorge]

The way this game is going I'll need an alternate source of income 😂

[unreal lichen]

This mean lots of money, just read 🤣

Frame, skills, materials... 6 upgradable components, activate powerful aircraft skill... Ummm

[untold stag]

The timing of it just before the finals is not accidental either. It is specifically targeted to the whales.

I can't see how any feature will change the outcome for most battle groups.

[worldly sable]

get those feetsies out

[dense lance]

state of sandals

[tardy night]

Morgana

[vale yoke]

Lol oh dear

[mighty gorge]

I'm not that kind of boy Lisa!

[worldly sable]

That's not what you said last night

🐾

[velvet storm]

Let remember to keep this channel for feedback discussion. Let's take the chat over to #🧟︱general 🎉🌸

[mighty gorge]

Aww, you're cute.

[main urchin]

Why is DD on Thursday if the team that is registered for DD did not participate in Sunday's RR? So why isn't DD on Sunday? The other question is, if you haven't registered for DD, but you want MIGO points, how will you get them without RR?

[worldly sable]

Feedback related to game cost

with suggestions on how to overcome

[unreal lichen]

The last I heard if you are not registered for DD, then you should able to participate in rr summit

[mighty gorge]

If your alliance has registered for DD, you cannot take part in RR (Summit). You also lose the second legion capability (naturally). There have been a few discussions on this as well around the timings in that the believed original intent was DD on Thu, RR on Sun, however the same mechanics (and the same problems) as the last DD have been applied.

If you're alliance drops out of DD, then it returns to standard RR.

Bottom line, if you're not registered for DD, you can't do RR and you'll either need a token for the Migo reward or lose out.

[worldly sable]

I'm going to register AD during DD to see how many people complain

[unreal lichen]

there was a discussion that this DD players might able to play rr if they not registered for DD, idk if it happened or not!

[mighty gorge]

Bad Lisa lol

[worldly sable]

I think we can still win both

Will be a challenge

I accidentally registered AD during MM and we did okay

[mighty gorge]

You'll be compensated. Is the answer.

[olive sluice]

I guess the single remaining SoS devoloper forgot about it..

[mighty gorge]

I guess it depends on the the timing of DD and AD together and sign ups.

And ofc who you vote for

[vague shoal]

Why do we have effortless progress again outside of SOtF or SVS?

[worldly sable]

For Throwdown

[prime hound]

Or to upgrade your behemoth since we are having annihilation awaits event

but I agree that it always seems to come when I don't want to upgrade things lol

[stable cosmos]

Thats on purpose you realise?

They're not putting it up for best options. They never have they never will. They don't want people to do things for cheap when its worth points

[mighty gorge]

I used a load of crystal today, but I used a load during TD on Monday as well as last week during SoFT (about 750 as well as probably 2k in plasma conversation for the blue boxes)

Its pretty annoying really

[stable cosmos]

Because of how it works, you earn max points then get stuff back. Can't have that going on when other players have to spend tons of speedups to rank

[nova jetty]

I agree it does seem a more appropriate time would be during sotf or svs. You can add the suggestion to #📋︱feedback-reporting perhaps if enough people upvote it they will consider moving it. Although I think it is there to make you use more supplies during off weeks just my opinion.

[stable cosmos]

They gave it to us for a month once. Then they took it away for 4 months. Probably thought we got too much of a good thing

[woven spire]

On purpose lol

Give you a choice

Discount or event

Would go discount personally but still ridicilous

[stable cosmos]

Its a little easier to stomach when you don't min max for points in events. If i plan to do a big upgrade I'll do so regardless of week. Exception was t11s as that was a massive lump of points and time. Wanted all the buffs for it

[nova jetty]

I try to hold out myself for the events but I can't stand the red dots....

[pallid willow]

Still better now than nothing 😂

Look at all the complaints about trap, omg trap so boring bla bla bla same rewards bla bla and now trap still boring but more difficult only for 4 more boxes literally 💀

[last hazel]

I am doing half of damage in Trap than before

[pallid willow]

Same i still can’t figure out if they changed something or if it’ll be same once we reach last level 🙈

[last hazel]

Migo stats, and buffs are the ones I'm doubting

[stable cosmos]

Trap gives you some extra training manuals or the chance to create more treasure capsules. Its an f2p event. If you want to like the prizes it gives you, don't spend money. Then they're wonderful

[wide wraith]

our trap scores have gone through the roof

[gritty fiber]

Billions for everyone?

[wide wraith]

8Bil was the highest

[gritty fiber]

How was Doomsday matching for 759?

[wide wraith]

its 💩

but we are just using it as information gathering

checking our own progress, thats the only reason we joined it

[gritty fiber]

That’s good, qualifying was really tough for the older bracket

[wide wraith]

i dont think we have enough in our group to fill the event

[stable anvil]

I need a mod help for alliance duel. Say alliance A bids Low on Alliance B, but B bids on Alliance C more coins then we bid on Alliance B. Who has it their own way. Isnt it supposed to be the one with the highest alliance rank. I remember 1 mod saying that

[icy sage]

Umm... event just ended and the store has closed? are they re-opening or have we been scammed again?

[steel musk]

If alliance A, B declared war on alliance C... the alliance which used more coins will win bid..
If same coins, who have better rank, will win bid

[stable anvil]

Yeah i looked and saw that

[steel musk]

check your backpack...

[steel musk]

they will replace items. I guess

some need 30 min 😂

[woven spire]

Not for.me

[icy sage]

what if the items are already used?

[woven spire]

Idk i still have old potions

[icy sage]

some of us used the old potions we got

[woven spire]

Thats not smart 😂

[icy sage]

before they sent out this email

[woven spire]

Oh

Rip

[steel musk]

Devs still didn't replace items

even their mail is lie 😑

[icy sage]

and the email clearly states the store will be replaced. we expected the store to be replenished, not backpack

[steel musk]

I guess Devs themself don't know either

[tardy night]

Read the rest of it. Says buy the potions. How would you buy it after the event ends?

If you bought them, and they're switching after event ends - they are gonna replace backpack

[olive sluice]

"once the event ends" might be a relative term... can be tomorrow or next week.. when the single remaining developer finds some time 😄

[tardy night]

@merry scroll @feral sinew @vast nacelle @topaz patio

so the "help" that gen skip states were getting for being forced into a bigger matchmaking pool was one week to throw 1.2k$ in a gambling event

Why not rename the game to speculation of spenders?

[olive sluice]

The usual procedure

[white turret]

Did anyone get the compensation for the normal blue potions

[tardy night]

Their answer for 4 skipped generations which includes:

No extra 10 months of:

1. Troops trained
2. Research
3. Events played with smaller pool
4. Construction
5. Event rewards
6. VIP fragments
7. Biocaps hoarded

Is evidently telling us to drop 1k$ more. That's the best they can do.

And not even direct rewards with discounts. Gambling chance.

Do I show here their "value" calculated via current in game packs for low spend, mid spend and high spend player for the loss incurred?

[dense lance]

what'd they do?

I mean not the gen skip, but like what's the event?

[tardy night]

1 gambling event similar to Chris/Ada vouchers.

Milestones earn you potions after dropping 250/500/1.2k$. You get to gamble on getting some frags of the prior gens with the vouchers. Which is rigged as usual.

And it lasts 1 week.

That's all we got.

[dense lance]

did they do the bundles with like so many (skipped gen) capsules for $X?

or just only the RNG thing?

[tardy night]

Rng thing, and gen 17 bundles

[dense lance]

🤦‍♀️

the bundles weren't much (and they were nothing at all for F2P), but they were uh.. well, something, but only if you were willing to spend on it

[tardy night]

Nope. They worked hard on making it harder

[dense lance]

I know age of outreach wasn't perfect, but it was much better than these

do they give any free chances? or just pay only

[tardy night]

Which is why this is hilarious to read

[dense lance]

that's fairly accurate, really, plans only include spending

[tardy night]

7 chances total. 7 frags earned (not each, 7, individual frags)

For 5 gens

[dense lance]

how many for like say the $5 bundle

for a basis of comparison

[tardy night]

Lol 10 if you were lucky. 5 usually

It's already over so can't show ss

[dense lance]

"Good luck guys! Now you're ready" already? 😬

[tardy night]

Handing a water gun to go shoot at the front

We can't work on Evelyn for instance, or Maddie.

Or Nikola.

[dense lance]

Maddie's in Ray's, no?

[tardy night]

At the expense of newer heroes, yes

So you lose out if you choose her.

No viable alternative route

[dense lance]

Kinda, it's intended to work on one of the counter sets so they subbed out the ones that got replaced in 17

[tardy night]

Maddie replacement is in gen 18 rider ...

[dense lance]

Oh sure

[tardy night]

Hasn't happened yet

[dense lance]

That's what I mean, yeah, that's why she's still in there

[tardy night]

🤷🏽‍♂️ works for older states. Not when we have limited choices

Nikola and Evelyn however are available nowhere.

[dense lance]

Dunno, they just did those new TAs and they may be doing more

[tardy night]

They will. It doesn't mean anything. The loltroll/bugsack /pestilence bs works when there's any kind of balanced stats in literally everything else.

These morons test with maxed equal stats in their alpha servers.

[dense lance]

it's really hard to get 2 marches with the skip though

(without putting a devs kid through college)

[tardy night]

They got no idea how many folks are currently looking to Google and apple for after DD is done

Will be fun to see

Then they come begging with ads and GMs everywhere

7 places I've seen their ad begging to reinstall their last game. Let's see the count for SoS

[unreal lichen]

Doomsday and Alliance Duels at the same time. Great ☹️

Why have both big events on the same day? If we can’t do doomsday and RR, just do doomsday on Sunday.

[pallid willow]

So has anyone calculated after how much time we will get enough coins for the dragon skin from koh?

[sleek moth]

Can alliance mates rent island space from each other for free?

[timber gyro]

You are not alone

[worldly sable]

3 years maybe

[gritty fiber]

Can’t find anything in the crammed jungle of statues?

[lime laurel]

Just thought Thursday
...
UTC1000 Pet rallys
UTC1200 Doomsday
UTC1400 trap
UTC1500 Alliance Duel
Hmmm Devs planned this day really well...We are not in lockdown anymore...real people have to work...
Thursdays schedule is absolute joke

[cloud venture]

no betting on doomsday matches? or im blind and cant find the button for it?

[spark swallow]

Don't think betting is available for qualifiers

[rocky otter]

In a normal day in sos office

Dev 1: rally joiners can eat my a55
(office: HAHAHHAHAHAHA)

Dev 2: can you imagine there are still f2p
(office: HAHAHAHHAHA)

I could swear it’s like this but I can’t prove it 🤣🤣🤣

[thorny plume]

How can we have doomsday and alliance duels both on Thursday at same time ? Have you guys completely lost your marbles ?

I expect that DBW will be given coins to coin one of the events

Also we will have to sacrifice ranks in 1 of the events.. i mean seriusly. How stripped of intelligence are you guys ?

Also Ill change my name

There fixed

[thorny plume]

I know quantum physics has alot theories on this, but currently it is impossible to be in two places at once.
Unless funplus has mastered quantum superposition it is unfair to expect us players have mastered it. We simply dont have large enough energy sources available on earth and the cooling is going to be a serious issue.

So with that in mind could funplus please stop assuming we can do doomsday at the exact time as alliance duels?

And if you have solved the quantum superposition, how did you manage too cool the background fields enough?
I thought they were stuck on sub atomic particles with superposition. So well done to funplus if they truly can have us in two places at once

@merry scroll

And why cant the developers fix theese kind of things immidiatly instead of second or third week, we have mentioned this for two days now and got it confirmed today that this will be a issue. I cant even find the feedback on this and to be fair this is so urgent it should be addressed right away. Like you did when players got free bio. That you adressed really soon.
Or like when players could do airplane missions on one hit, that you adressed (and broker further) really quick.

[stable cosmos]

If a bug benefits the players its fixed immediately. If its negative, it'll get fixed in the next major version release. Maybe.

[tardy night]

You must have missed the posts by their CM on reddit. Homophobic, misogynist, anti casual gaming...et al.

Conveniently denied and hidden away by fartplus

[thorny plume]

Its insane they want us to play both at the same and why arent people revolting?
Probably because it hasnt happend to them, yet. But give it a week or two

[distant gull]

I know this is different and no side events that helpful for F2P

For 1-1288 has side events like Valentine Event (Picture 1)

For 1289-1290 more people will quit (Picture 2)

[distant gull]

@merry scroll hopefully dev team will fix this selected new state, no side events there like no events for F2P

[analog nymph]

They wont they want money

[mighty gorge]

☕ 🥓 🥓

[distant gull]

1289-1290 will be dead state because of single event that unplayable

Any news 😦

[rocky otter]

Yes didn’t see it 😳

[merry scroll]

no... we mean that alliance can avoid DD and AD happening at the same time by setting the DD fight timer in the 12 hour truce period for your alliance.

[wide wraith]

they shouldnt have put DD on a Thursday when people work, not everyone is in lockdown still

[merry scroll]

Plz check the FAQ here: https://ss-community.kingsgroupgames.com/api/community/share/1615?params=eyJnYW1laWQiOiIzMDAwMSIsImNoYW5uZWwiOiJzc19nb29nbGVwbGF5X3RoX3JhemVyIiwic3lzdGVtIjoiY29tbXVuaXR5X3Zlcl9wbGF0ZSIsImxhbmciOiJlbiIsImF1dGhvcl9mcGlkIjotODZ9

[wide wraith]

and where does it say matches would be on a Thursday

[distant gull]

Yes pls I cant even try this event at all its been 1 day

[wide wraith]

as per usual No-where

[thorny plume]

And we were to assume that you now suddenly out of nowhere actually do DD on Thursday ? Weve had previous cases where you have written a time and that time was simply wrong or for second legion etc. So you are taking no responsibility in something so stupid ?

[wide wraith]

and that update wasnt available before the registration

therefore its best to cancel all matches and redo registration, not like last time just change things to fit the Devs incompetence

so you miss 2 weeks big deal, no one really likes the league format anyway

[thorny plume]

Its kind of bold to assume that funplus cares for their players tbh.

[wide wraith]

maybe its time to get the Dev-rep here

[thorny plume]

Greedy corporate filled with employees that obviously hate their customers that are dumb enough to keep throwing money at them. im glad i stopped spending 2 months ago.

[wide wraith]

its more like employees who dont play the game or never do events

[thorny plume]

They dont seem to understand the frustration when we pay 10 - 20 k euro a year to play and they do stuff like this without blinking. And afterwards they just brush the responsibility off their shoulders and go smugly back to the shadows.

[wide wraith]

if we had known that DD matches were on a Thursday in advance we would have NEVER signed up for the crappy event

[thorny plume]

Agreed

[wide wraith]

@merry scroll why were we not told the day of the DD matches in advance, is it because the Devs knew if they did, no one would sign up???

[strange leaf]

@merry scroll, can you find out why the developers devalue their biggest event and prioritize events like Alliance Duels and King of the Hill? There seems to be a disconnect between them and the player base. Let's set aside the issue of money for a moment, as we all know they are greedy and force bundles on us. If the gameplay and major issues were fixed, people would be less annoyed about their greed. We dislike both King of the Hill and Alliance Duels in their current format. Alliances are still able to block off large areas, and instead of making a quick tweak like setting a 1 minute march time, we have to march for 10 minutes for a single attack. These are obvious issues, but the developers seem out of touch with the players. As a CM of this Discord, what steps have you taken to communicate the state of the game to them? Do they even value your opinion? When will actual changes take place? These are simple issues to address, and people would feel much better.

[wide wraith]

add to that many dislike league type events, Afterall it not like SOS will ever be an esports game

[woven spire]

You right so you need to use the truce for that and what about the times you actually cant play?

What kind of logic you guys got there?

[stable cosmos]

🤡 🤡 🎪 bout this

Although that may be offensive to clowns and circuses

[wide wraith]

simple answer is they dont think, as long their pet ultrawhales are happy

[strange leaf]

Reservoir League can be great when done correctly. It should pit the best Reservoir Raid teams from the Summit events against each other to determine who stands head and shoulders above the rest. As a previous top-tier winner of Doomsday, I would like to compete again. This time, I would like the rewards to hold more significance. We still do not have a permanent symbol of our win, unlike other teams who got to keep their alliance emblems.

The Reservoir League should be built up after every 6 months to a year from the Summit.

[wide wraith]

key thing is if done properly so in SOS it means never having league events

[woven spire]

Ye but summit stars are not earned "fair" since a small might have more stars then top 5 ingame. So you have dyz vs farmer fc

[mighty gorge]

Wait, what. So a problem the developers created. They've made it a player issue to resolve. WTF

[woven spire]

They always do that

Look island

They create overcrowded

[strange leaf]

Forget the star system it is bad

[woven spire]

Pay to fix it

😂

[mighty gorge]

I mean, there is dumb and then there is just plain disrespectful and ignorant

[strange leaf]

You know like in football how they have league tables?

Wins/losses

pts

[woven spire]

Yes but devs dont understand aimple logic

[tardy night]

Their answer to someone breaking into account....

[woven spire]

Like you see with truce alliance duels

[wide wraith]

thats the same with all feedback why do you think that we have to suggest solutions

[mighty gorge]

But hey, its OK, we have a full battle fleet

[strange leaf]

I just don't get how they still push king of the hill lol

[stable cosmos]

This would require forethought. Thats not a thing

[wide wraith]

because they have no idea what they are doing

[tardy night]

They send a verification code...in the system mail... that the people can already access 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

[stable cosmos]

If the thing isnt a money spinning bundle, its just an afterthought

[strange leaf]

Bundles are an issue but the game is just broken. No real attempt to improve game play.

[wide wraith]

even Saberlot stopped talking because the link to FAQs said it was updated today, just because their are complaints about Duels/DD clashes

[stable cosmos]

Once more, not a bundle. Not important.

[wide wraith]

do they think we are that stupid

[stable cosmos]

Yes? Is that rhetorical?

[mighty gorge]

and......hes gone again

[wide wraith]

of course because he got caught out

[strange leaf]

Well to be fair... we do stick about with all their bs lol

[stable cosmos]

Must ask next time what his pressing engagment is that prevents him being here for more than 5 minutes

If he'd spend an hour a day, which would be better than a meeting, we'd all get our questions answered and gradually get less snarky

[thorny plume]

Hes already smugly retreated to the shadows

[wide wraith]

i dont know how someone who is meant to be a Community Manager can actually make things worse

[strange leaf]

He can't answer the questions.

[thorny plume]

So no bueno

[strange leaf]

He literally doesn't know anything about anything.

[mighty gorge]

its the time it takes for him to push the coin in the coffee machine, the cup to drop and the coffee to dispense.

[strange leaf]

He is guessing

[stable cosmos]

You know, thats probably dead accurate

[strange leaf]

Saberlot's friends lack respect for him. He is aware of the problems affecting the game, but either fails to communicate them effectively or is ignored.

[stable cosmos]

Man, i used to mod a help forum for something. I'd spend so much time making sure all posts had at least one reply which if not helpful in itself pointed in the right direction. And that wasn't even my job

[analog nymph]

Why the hell i always keep coming back here 🤔 if you come here when you are in a good mood, won't take long before you are like this 🤬

Not good for health

[stable cosmos]

Gotta learn to take this place with the sarcasm and disdain it deserves.

[merry scroll]

Hmmmm, when do you guys get the info of your DD fight timer? it should be before Wed.

[strange leaf]

AD is incredibly dull. When it was first announced, I expected it to be a fun skirmish mode where alliances could set up fights. However, it was packaged into MIGO and turned out to be boring because teams are more focused on not losing than having fun. I have battled a few teams that block off every available space possible, and I had to endure a 10-minute march before I could use the Exploration book talent. If the devs preset a 1-minute march walk time, they wouldn't need to resort to this blocking tactic.

[analog nymph]

Sarcasm is when you say something what you dont actually mean, in here just venting

[mighty gorge]

The thing is, its a self destructive approach and extremely bad personal time management. Its simple logic; as a CM if you're ever present then the rate at which questions are asked can be managed, they can be addressed piecemeal and the load is less because you're able to be part of the actual conversation. You turn up here once every few weeks, or without answers, or while deliberately avoiding major releases then the community will jump on everything they can in that window.

[merry scroll]

I understand what you mean, have delvererd the 10 mins march issue to Dev team. 🙏

[wide wraith]

it wasnt until after we registered and it was too late to withdraw, we didnt know exactly whrn fighting until monday morning

[strange leaf]

But why has it taken 6 months for them to see?

They are "Game Devs" they have to play their product.

[wide wraith]

remember no one was available because you were all off for lunar new year

[thorny plume]

So we getting coins for the doomsday?

[merry scroll]

the truce period is 12 hours long, if you put the DD fight timer at the beginning or end of the 12 hours period, it won't affect your alliance actual activity during AD.

[analog nymph]

There was actual calendar before to see fights happens in thursdays and sundays

[wide wraith]

but player WORKING does affect

[thorny plume]

But considering bad you guys communicate, this is something you should make sure to make us aware of. Like its now Thursday, the other times we wrote wrong date was wrong. This time we mean Thursday

[wide wraith]

it looked like something a baby did, and was too small to read

[merry scroll]

Yeah. you know the timer on Monday Morning, and you can set your truce time on Wed for AD; Dev team's suggestion is to make use of the 12 hour truce period.

[analog nymph]

But don't effect me because i knew i wont take part on it

[mighty gorge]

Just stop. STOP making it a player issue.

This is a developer issue. Period.

[stable cosmos]

Devs should resolve it. There is no good reason for DD on thursday

[thorny plume]

Yes, its not a player issue this is a funplus issue saberlot. I cant believe you are defending this

[wide wraith]

and what about those who work on thursday, not everyone can pick and choice when they work

[analog nymph]

Whales can

Dd is made to whales

[woven spire]

Lets say 1900 utc. Then you either got 1900-0700 utc. Not sure about you but here in europe we cant play at 0700 utc when its a work day

[stable cosmos]

I can think of a bunch of poor reasons, but they all revolve around no planning and poor management by the game team

[woven spire]

And all times under 1700 arent grest either

[wide wraith]

they dont care about players working

[thorny plume]

And considering rr and dd and rrl always has been Saturday or Sunday, and you often has given wrong times before. How were we supposed to understand that THIS time its actually not wrong time

[storm solstice]

To be matched when people are asleep? That's not a solution.
It's an issue that was purely created by incredible bad event planning and scheduling.
Now the customer has to live with it.
Result will be - people will keep quitting.

[merry scroll]

😫 The timer for DD is displayed on Mon, and the truce period feature for AD is not a new one...

[stable cosmos]

Thats a BAD solution

[wide wraith]

the truce is used when the majority of the alliance is sleeping, not to avoid some 4th rate event

[mighty gorge]

Some serious company re-organisation needs to happen, because these mistakes are getting worse, more frequent, and with ever extending impacts.

[thorny plume]

Its not the first time weve had fight lock ins day before the actual fight. We mostly assumed it was the same case now

[merry scroll]

You can give me examples of when your alliance members would be active and the DD timer... The DD fight should start during your active period right?

[stable cosmos]

Thursday is a work day for most. You are either preventing a team playing DD or preventing them doing duels.

[thorny plume]

Which is SAME TIME THEY ARE ACTIVE FOR DUELS

[mighty gorge]

Are you even listening 🤦‍♂️

[thorny plume]

How can you not grasp this

[wide wraith]

maybe if the Game-Team and CMs actually took part in these stupid events

[thorny plume]

I mean, my 7 year old daughter would grasp this

How can you not ?

[strange leaf]

Compensate for MIGO and remove AD. Additionally, they should provide a full season of Reservoir Raid compensation for the DD screw up. It is important to address feedback and make necessary improvements. The rewards for AD and KOTH are not great, and the gameplay is not enjoyable for many players.

[analog nymph]

Because he is funplus employee

[wide wraith]

or better remove DD as thats the newer thing

[tardy night]

Europeans have one time slot in doomsday to play -19 UTC.

If truce covers a 12 hour period, any European or American alliance is out of either DD or duels. No one is gonna miss Friday work to play a duels match by staying up at 1 am

[thorny plume]

I refuse to believe he doesnt understand, but hes probably forced by policy to not

[wide wraith]

it was hated last year so they brought it back

[analog nymph]

True but my answer is still valid 🤣

[thorny plume]

You could have fixed it easily by just shifting a hour or two

How hard is this

[stable cosmos]

Day. Moved it a day. Forward or back

[thorny plume]

Like one event 1200 1400 1600 1800 or so, and other 1500 1700 1900 2100 or so

How damn hard is that to grasp

[wide wraith]

it should have been on a sunday

[strange leaf]

It shouldn't be on a Thursday... all data points to KOTH being a failed event. There is nothing to say other than that. We have said collectively to stop putting events during work hours. How can we be clearer?

I'm telling you that 80% of teams would skip KOTH for DD

hands down

[thorny plume]

Or that but what i meant id they insist on same day. Atlesst dont pick same hours ffs

[wide wraith]

and what about those in the US, they suffer again

[thorny plume]

Times were examples

[woven spire]

Everyone suffers its just trash planning

[strange leaf]

The whole DD schedule sucks for everyone on a Thursday.

[stable cosmos]

Koth is still awful. I have no idea why its pushed so hard

[wide wraith]

my alliance would never have signed up for DD if we knew it was a Thursday

[woven spire]

Trash match Pool. Trash rewards. Trash planning

And ofcourse lets release new stuff

[strange leaf]

These are basic fundamentals that they are screwing up.

Again 0 accountability

[merry scroll]

i think you don't understand what i mean here.. suppose your alliance majority sleeps during 08:00 - 16:00 UTC, your DD slot is 19:00 UTC, so you set the truce period from 07:00 - 19:00 UTC, then it covers your sleep time and the DD. but won't affect your AD.

[stable cosmos]

Important events on a workday is a terrible idea all around

[stable cosmos]

Jobs dude. Jobs

[strange leaf]

DD shouldn't be on a thursday

[thorny plume]

Understand fully, but do you?

[pine pendant]

People need to work on weekdays to pay the bundles so FP should show some respect by not putting team events on weekdays

[thorny plume]

We put truth time when we sleep

[woven spire]

Ye i sleep on work

True

Maybe you need to consider not everyone from asia

Would help alot

Or america whatever

[strange leaf]

Again... Saber, you are not even surprised by this and you saw this coming so why didn't they?

[storm solstice]

So we plan our DD for 12/15/19 UTC which is for a mainly european based alliance already during their work day on a Thursday. --> bad planning to have such on a thursday. Feedback there since last DD.

now we get 15 UTC - so shall we put the truce time from 15 UTC? 12 hrs is 3 UTC - which is sleep time for european. so literally everyone who put 3-6 UTC will win without any opponent as we slepp.

that´s an example for a european based alliance.

i really don´t get how someone responsible can´t see that issue upfront and had a proper solution for that in place like an RECOMMENDATION: auto truce for DD time that this is additionally set beside the normal truce time.

[merry scroll]

Yeah.. that is workday.. Dev team put that on Thu to make the overall DD period is within 3 months, other wise, if we only have fights on Sun, the DD would last for 6 months long.. But i will bring your suggestion on Thu to dev team.

[mighty gorge]

Unless you're in state 697.

[woven spire]

They probally get more tokens anyway😂

[strange leaf]

Let us skip KOTH nobody likes it

Do you see people jumping to defend it?

[wide wraith]

simple they dont run DD

[strange leaf]

It is just out of touch devs

[woven spire]

Or just put DD back like old and make group for fbi and dyz together easier

This is just the most stupid thing ever

[tardy night]

You are forgetting one essential part. 1 hour of rr - you are at 20 UTC.

Then another hour after it - which is not on our alliance. It's decided by whoever wins the bet in AD. Which can be anywhere in the time slot where people have work.

You are making players change their work and sleep schedule to adjust for the game. No one will do it.

[strange leaf]

We both know they see it MKR... They are pushing dumb KOTH... for whatever reason.

[wide wraith]

why have DD anyway, its not like the rewards are any good, an overpriced store and in later rounds betting which should have no part in this game

[analog nymph]

[pine pendant]

@merry scroll while you're here, is there any update on Troll Squad? Changing the requirements to inaccessible capsules makes it impossible to upgrade.

[thorny plume]

@merry scroll us that currently try to make you understand this often bicker amongst ourself. That fact that we all agree now means that funplus is the problem and for every voiced player here in guessing theres atleast 30 fairly big spenders in same alliance and alot mid spenders saying the same. So you should count this as more then one voice.
If each of those players spend 1000 euro a month, you are currently discussing with 200k euro a month. Thats a fair amount of income you are chasing away with your lack of responsibility and lack of willingness to adress this issue.

[steel musk]

always same issues, same questions... etc

[strange leaf]

We had the three-month schedule before KOTH was introduced. The easiest solution would be to remove KOTH from MIGO and allow us to skip it for DD. If compensation for King of the hill in MIGO is provided, I believe that nobody will play it because people are not queuing up to play KOTH.

[steel musk]

who spend 1000

[thorny plume]

Most half whales. Im guessing most big alliances has 5-7 of those

[wide wraith]

they are not queuing to do RR or DD either

[strange leaf]

Only you are trashing on RR here. I have to disagree

[thorny plume]

Theres a reason they push new gear and pay to win stuff during doomsday

[tardy night]

We should remember that Thursday also has dino rally

[thorny plume]

And now they are chasing away that money

[strange leaf]

Find me 10 players here that love king of the hill

[wide wraith]

RR is my fav event but its dying also

[strange leaf]

But you can still do king of the hill on Sunday 😬 you should be so lucky.

[distant gull]

Why no one cares for newer state that devs team screwed

[merry scroll]

i reminded dev team of the complaints about DD and AD timer conflicts. The truce set is the temporary solution from Dev team. They are discussing if they can add new feature or mechanism to make the 1 hour of DD can't be overlapped with AD.

[steel musk]

Devs : we added bundles

[strange leaf]

That isn't a solution we have established that they don't know their game.

[thorny plume]

The truth time isnt fixing this week is it. Since we use truth time to sleep.. that truth time wont solve the issue

[wide wraith]

hopefully this will be the last ever DD

[merry scroll]

Thanks for the explanation.

[tardy night]

Why not simply have dd on Friday? Which other game needed that timeslot?

[distant gull]

1289-1290 will be dead state thanks to dev team that they screwed

[strange leaf]

Still on a work day.

[steel musk]

Devs : we will merge them to make them active again

[analog nymph]

Those were dead way before those started

[merry scroll]

Yeah, truce time can't thoroughly re-solve the issue. Please upvote in the related feedback too. I will push dev team to add mechanism to avoid overlap of DD and AD timers. Thanks for your feedback.

[wide wraith]

they even knew a weekday would be problematic because they tried RL on a weekday before and it bombed

[thorny plume]

And compansarion for the people and alliances that misses one of the events ?

[strange leaf]

You have all the feedback you need and a direct link to them.

[tardy night]

Yes but at least it won't be overlapping, and the 3 month restriction for fitting in 12+ rounds would mean they have to do it over 2 days of the week.

[strange leaf]

Go and tell them all the issues and to take their game seriously once in their life.

[storm solstice]

Please take the recommendation to Dev team.
The time slot is given prior, so could be auto-added as truce time to not be able to select that.
Would at least fix that issue right away.

the general Thursday issue ain´t fixed by it, but at least not even worse impacted by the game.
Thank you

[merry scroll]

I don't have further info about Troll Squad from dev team so far...

[steel musk]

Devs forgot troll squad

[vagrant lance]

@merry scroll any word from the talks with devs for the five gen-skipped states, other than second or third march is not important, or buying bundles will give you the heroes you need and want? DD coming, and I usually for example use all my 6 marches in RR battles 🙋‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[pine pendant]

Maybe they can add a 1k $ bundle to choose one time for both DD and AD 😂 problem solved lol

[distant gull]

This is so dumb afaik

[steel musk]

yes they added too many bundles

[tardy night]

Did you see that shiny new aircraft? Dropping 20k on it will fix all issues

[distant gull]

They never fix this bug and start adding that make f2p extremely hard to complete this game without skins/collection level

[wide wraith]

if this is the slow down we were promised i would hate to see what spped was planned before

[strange leaf]

Fasted fix = give out King of the hill compensation for MIGO and put DD on Sundays only.

[distant gull]

And Snapdragon 778G phone now less than 60 fps (1 year ago it can 60 fps with no problem)

[analog nymph]

This is p2p game and you should know that already, even more in new states

[distant gull]

More player quitting

[mighty gorge]

Because more content is needed, right?

Not fixing everything else

or upgrading old content

or indeed resolving their security issues which compromises players

[analog nymph]

They cant afford to fix bugs🤣

[wide wraith]

fast fix, restart DD including registration now that everyone has all the facts

[merry scroll]

Dev team will consider adding more frags for those States.. but they didn't give me detailed plan so far.. Currently, for the rally Launchers, they can get frags to catch up the heroes for the first 3 rallies.

[stable cosmos]

Thats also not a solution...

[wide wraith]

spoken like someone who doesnt play in events

[strange leaf]

I agree with restarting and fixing the schedule.

Would rather wait a little and get an event that works

most players would

[steel musk]

they won't do that...

[strange leaf]

Long term solution: scrap koth and AD. (bin them)

[distant gull]

Old throwdown way better

[stable cosmos]

AD has a fun event behind it. But not on a thursday, and not what we have

[strange leaf]

yes but it needs fixing

[analog nymph]

I kinda like koth only event where gold behemoths are not required to join fights😬🫣

[steel musk]

I don't like old and new 😂

[tardy night]

No we can't. That event already ended one week into the generation skip.

[analog nymph]

I agree

[strange leaf]

Have you been 60 vs 30 on a sunday 😬

[wide wraith]

AD is ok But needs changes, remove settlement hits, add merit for occupying towers/centre, march capped at 2mins no matter the distance

[tardy night]

We aren't playing DD with 3 marches. We play DD with 6

[analog nymph]

Been 60 vs our 11

[distant gull]

I love settlement hits in AD

[strange leaf]

You had fun right 😬

[analog nymph]

And We were second😌

[stable cosmos]

AD should be a separate map, much much faster and settlement hits can stay.

[wide wraith]

try 60 v 6

[steel musk]

which alliance have 6 only? better quit

[wide wraith]

that would be better

[strange leaf]

I don't blame 6 people for turning up to that monstrosity.

[wide wraith]

players just dont like it

[analog nymph]

So it would be like mm🤔

[wide wraith]

its too long

[strange leaf]

AD should take place anytime...

you just declare war on any alliance

You kick the stuffing out of each other

then you go home

like an alliance VS KE

but you get your troops back

[wide wraith]

so free rss

[stable cosmos]

Just the 2 control centers to be killed and 4 towers to hold that do additional damage to the control centers

[strange leaf]

No RSS just a for fun skirmish mode to promote fighting

[distant gull]

Better than new crappy throwdown

Old 120k
New 1,78m 💀

[analog nymph]

New for us is 1,9m

[steel musk]

I don't take this task anymore

[wide wraith]

anything is better than Throwdown which is a totally pointless event

[analog nymph]

I take exclusive

[stable cosmos]

Most don't. Its not worth the resource cost

[strange leaf]

Just line up everything with journey to glory

easy life the new TD

[stable cosmos]

New gold is 3 full days of traininf if you don't speed up

[thorny plume]

Same here, line it up and do it cheap

[analog nymph]

The old one was already that

[strange leaf]

I complete TD in 3 tasks

Didn't do that in the old one

[analog nymph]

Upgrading troops need less

[analog nymph]

But you are high dpender

[strange leaf]

Nope

200 a month if that now

Plasma you get passively just playing and same with hero appointment stuff.

But I taught our smaller players to do it to

[stable cosmos]

I'm going to do the math at some point on how much plasma that needs. Its a lot

[vagrant lance]

Noob mistake🤣🤣🤣 You should know already by now to spend immediately thousands of euros when the bundles land

[analog nymph]

That's like 3 times more than i do

[steel musk]

almost 1.5k to get 7500 points

[stable cosmos]

Yeah, I'm not wasting 1.5k plasma every 2 weeks on throwdown

[strange leaf]

1.3k if you count the 200 from the journey store,

[thorny plume]

I usually Split my plasma on two days.
Its not wasting if you making blue boxes or stuff like that.

[stable cosmos]

Passive play doesn't keep up with that.

[strange leaf]

Not a waste because you are purifying on Mondays.

You are building up poly plasma

[thorny plume]

So not the worst idea. Convert plasma to blue then convert the blue plasma to blue boxes to push crystal during sotf

[stable cosmos]

Given the volume of plasma i still need losing 1500 would not be helpful

[strange leaf]

not losing it. you are converting it for something else.

You don't have to do 1500 either but you should still be doing some purifying on Mondays.

[stable cosmos]

If i have 0 plasma and 1000 polymer I'm not in a good state. And yes i do a bit of purification but not 1500 worth because i still actually need the plasma

[analog nymph]

Max what i have plasma on monday after sotf or svs is 100 that's not so much to get points in td

[stable cosmos]

I like to keep my building upgrades ticking over and i can't do that with nothing

[analog nymph]

If you have 1500 plasma for every 2 weeks to spend then you are rich

[strange leaf]

Yeah... just find your threshold. I think 512 plasma gets you the 200 plasma from JTG

so 312 in theory

[thorny plume]

@merry scroll assuming we have a easy DD fight on Thursday (we likely do)
Can we leave early and go fight duels and keep our score ?

[white turret]

Not really. You can spend 20$ to receive a 1,000 plasma. It’s pretty cheap nowadays.

[thorny plume]

And rewards offcourse, quite sure we can zero em early and just leave a few people to hold

[analog nymph]

I do have more than 7500 points in TD but can't be done in 2 days if you don't spend

[thorny plume]

Or does that void our rewards so you basicly made it impossible?

[analog nymph]

Im not going to spend 20$ (don't know what in € but pretty much the same) in just plasma if i buy stuff.

[woven spire]

@merry scroll why can fp change heroes when they feel like touching buttons

Or is it normal to buy a rolex and end up with a paper watch

[white turret]

Crystals, plasma and speedups. It would be alittle bit more expensive for you. I do it though just for t12 research and plasma.

[woven spire]

Yes packs get better. Free rewards not tho😂

Only increase the gap

But leveling is same

Cause its more expensive aswell

[white turret]

Yeah I mean that’s true

[thorny plume]

lan been changed, but that was in a good way. Im more worried about them nerfing heroes I spend on. Like Olly. He was probably 700 euro + whatever needed for wolfie

Then we did same with resident evil heroes, they were costly 🤢 hope those wont get nerfed anytime soon
Edit: good way imo, as she can be used now

[woven spire]

Angelica was few thousands

Thats more the issue😂

Olly didnt got nerfed pretty sure

Just not goot in meta

Dont think RE will get nerfed. Like joker they cant

[stable cosmos]

Olly did get nerfed. Soon as dd ended

[analog nymph]

And the old TD had behemoth frags quest too so if had enough frags to upgrade then you got points from that too now and also hero gear part quest what was good too and the current td is made for the spenders gor that reason you cant get a good rank on anything anymore and the rank rewards within allience is quite useless now but for those who actually need the hero capsules dont get any

[stable cosmos]

TD is garbage. It always has been but at least old td was easy to achieve garbage f2p. New uses more resources than it gives back

Old td emptying my training was 430 points. New td i need to empty it 2-3 times and i only get 450 points, and my target is 3x what it was

Gold fist should be about 2000 points to match. Target is 3x what it was,so 3x current points and its harder to fulfil, more points

[thorny plume]

Yes i believe so too, that he got nerfed as he was to close to Angelica

[elfin blade]

That Q&A is ridiculous. 12hr alliance duels time is bad enough, now the advice is change your time around doomsday so more likely to be whilst people are asleep. What’s the point in a Q&A that’s not useful at all

[wraith vapor]

He did get nerfed during DD based on complaints. I think it was before the finals

[vagrant lance]

It is the proof feedback is listened to. (Remember to upvote 👍👍👍)

[elfin blade]

Huh? What feedback is listened to?

[vagrant lance]

All. And there is proof, I heard

[unique slate]

in 3-4 year the state already prosperity, why the survivor need to be afraid with zombie. they have hero, have tank, aircraft, carrier, 2 mutant, a massive troops ( even an island only have less then 1 mil still prosper ) this game become ridiculous. it should be stopped

[vagrant lance]

You know I am kidding right ?

[wraith vapor]

So because we didn't want a new aircraft. We are now getting two?

[unique slate]

i hope they release new building, nuclear silo

at least a state need one

[elfin blade]

Mods is there still a place for terrible CS responses by the way? I have some that great ones

[wraith vapor]

Yes..... Hell

[spark swallow]

Last DD had fights on Friday right?

I dont remember

[wraith vapor]

No Thursday and Sunday if I remember correctly but Thursday were only if you lose the first match and have to play the eliminator

[wide wraith]

thursday night during the double elimination and Sunday for all others

[spark swallow]

Ah I remember now

I mean Friday would've been a better choice...

[wraith vapor]

I don't mind an odd Thursday, like last time it's fine but this is ridiculous, it's on Thursday and Sunday

[wraith vapor]

For me any weekday is same

[spark swallow]

With duel Thursday isn't the beat choice

[wraith vapor]

Yeah true, that's also there 😅. I am losing track of events

[spark swallow]

If MM was still here it would've clashed with that if it was Thur or Fri

[near mesa]

Full time job

Lmao

[wraith vapor]

So glad, don't have to play MM

[wraith vapor]

No I get paid for working 😂

[wide wraith]

the real reason they cancelled MM is to fit in DD

[tacit roost]

i know i ask to early since the first DD match is only tomorrow. Do we know what version of RR we play? with ot without supply hubs?

[spark swallow]

I'd rather do MM than DD

[junior nest]

Lets submit it and we see if we get it

[wide wraith]

lets not

[stable cosmos]

Yes. Channel just below this one. Cs redponse screenshots. You can't see history in it though

[junior nest]

https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1064650064422785045

[junior nest]

Thx

[rocky otter]

@merry scroll I want to ask this. The majority of players rebelled against alliance duel in the last season, and the developers announced that the most disliked event was Alliance Duell. So why did you bring back this event? Why didn’t make any changes? It’s the exactly same event and also you made it worst. You put dd and ad same day

[spark swallow]

Makes their top 0.1% happy, so of course they won't remove it

[woven spire]

Buffed for whales nerfed for smaller spenders

It depends how far you got him

Was the most ridicilous buff tho😂

[tender igloo]

Is there any information yet about if devs will solve the problem with same time for ad and dd?

[merry scroll]

it is a relatively new event.. Previously people don't like the old event like MM, and Dev team finally take it offline. I just hope Dev team can do positive changes in the future. 🙏

[astral stratus]

source: #🎬︱developer_feedback message

[merry scroll]

Both DD and AD at the same timer?

[stable cosmos]

Our problems with MM was the matchmaking and the ridiculous number of bugs

The game mode itself was pretty good, although imo 3-4 days was too much

[tender igloo]

Not really a help tbh. So we should set ad fight for 2 utc to make sure we won’t get ad for same time than dd?

[spark swallow]

There weren't really many bugs for me it was just extremely laggy

[astral stratus]

I know its not, but thats how its given.

[stable cosmos]

Got to play all of sos in the space of a short period. Rallies, gathering, building, healing, skills. Everything covered. It was really decent from a gameplay perspective. The issues were outside of the mode itself

[tender igloo]

If I remember correctly last time they blocked mm for this and you couldn’t get same time, no?

[wide wraith]

that information should have been given before registration and not a day before the battle start

[astral stratus]

Honestly, i cant tell. i neither join MM nor DD. i hope someone will throw in if yes or no

[vagrant lance]

Matchmaking is impossible nowadays. The power gaps between players are too wide and getting only wider with all the new exciting and fun new features (airplane x2, because why settle with one when you can have two).

In the old days, pre-airplane that is, the matches were close due to much less stacking options in a rally. Now, there are massive gaps even between rally leaders, and when you combine joiners to the equation, the gaps become massive canyons. It even has been made worse with State transfers and merges and the subsequent super alliances.

So, the game and the devs have driven themselves into this situation where the outcome of most of the battles can be known even before the battle takes place. In this regard, the matchmaking itself is not broken rather than facing an impossible equation where it is asked to turn black into white. Most likely the best battles nowadays are fought in F2P RR fights, unless those are fed as wins for the weaker side p2w alliances.

[sweet copper]

@spark swallowyou didn't get potions?

[analog nymph]

No because he didn't buy the old potions

Sorry if not he😬

[sweet copper]

I thought it was pretty clear from dev's message that we need to buy old ones to get new ones too

Honestly, I doubt they will compensate in this case

But you might try

[thorny plume]

Yes, we have excact same time spot. It wouldnt be a issue if it was 1800 and 1900, but it seems both are 1900.

[spark swallow]

Nothing is ever clear with F+, no where in this message does it say you need to buy the old potions only that they will be "replaced" and that is ambiguous as hell. My fault for being busy with work and not understanding I guess

[sweet copper]

Checked that message again, and I kinda see how some people might misunderstand that "replace" as "we will replace them in store", not replace after you buy

[vale yoke]

Yeah, I can see that being ambiguous as well

[stable cosmos]

Our store now has both

And event ends is pretty clear, yet people got 300 already?

[vale yoke]

If it had said "items in your backpack from the bugged Resurgence Store" or something, then it would be more clear that they were talking about backpack items.

I got my 300 lol

[sweet copper]

@spark swallow try to message support through game, not in discord, and say that you thought they would be replaced in store, not after buying

[fallow lodge]

Mm was ok till bugs Devs caused ruined it. While I'm here since Devs pulled mm because of Devs failings. Many players are missing out on rewards mm would of gave. Do we get some sort of huge compensation or are we getting a new event that actually gives players some rewards or do we have to buy from another so called p2w event

[stable cosmos]

I didn't buy them. I'm not bothered that i didn't get them. Just the messages were dog 💩

[sweet copper]

Worth trying, 300 potions is a good amount

[vale yoke]

Logged in to see if I could figure out how to politely tell the alliance who bid on us in Duels that we don't do them because they're in the middle of the work week for us, and boom, 300 potions in my mail.

[sweet copper]

Surprise, lol

[spark swallow]

You can still access the store??

[stable cosmos]

Migo is still running for ages

[vale yoke]

The Operation Resurgence store? You shouldn't still have it Cyan

[sweet copper]

Not Migo, operation resurgence

[vale yoke]

The Resurgence store was standalone in the Operation Resurgence event at the beginning of MIGO

[spark swallow]

He little confused

[stable cosmos]

Oh that one. Ok no. I'm think of migo, cos that was only limited potions too

[vale yoke]

Yeah, we gotcha. It's cool luv

With all the stores in this game...

I mean...

Let's be honest, they all blend together

[stable cosmos]

I don't recall what i bought in the resugence store. Probably monkey parts

And coh

[sweet copper]

Yeeeeah, it's so easy to get lost in those events and stores

[spark swallow]

I did already do a CS ticket, I did say devs were stupid (little worse than that) for not making it 100% clear

[vale yoke]

I bought out the resurgence store 🤣 except the rss

So getting the mail was like, "I couldn't tell you what I bought but you're probably right that it was bugged potions"

[spark swallow]

So getting those potions is probably a no😂

[sweet copper]

Probably

[vale yoke]

Safe to say

[stable cosmos]

Not fussed. Miss out on all sorts f2p. Whats one more

[mighty gorge]

I thought it was all pretty clear IMHO

[vale yoke]

If you bought the potions in the Resurgence store and don't get your comp, then... Ugh... Contact cs

ducks tomatoes

[merry scroll]

The logic would be the same as normal RR. players who left the DD fights will loose their score and if their score is 0, the migo task will not be counted as complete.

[stable cosmos]

My last contact with CS was to tell them duels makes my phone overheat. They advised me to get a second phone to play duels on

[vale yoke]

Oh.

[mighty gorge]

To be fair, a second phone would be less than the cost of a good chunk of FP bundles (which you don't own as a tangible asset)

[stable cosmos]

Nothing else in game makes my phone toasty. Just duels. So its their fault

[mighty gorge]

I sleep with my phone under my pillow. In the winter I leave SoS running to warm my head

[stable cosmos]

1am. Must sleep. Night

[vale yoke]

That's concerning to read, Saber, because if the instance of double-booked times is already happening, they will continue to happen
Players aren't going to appreciate the choice between two events vital to their growth, which affects their world event compilation and the success of their alliance.
Perhaps the devs should consider some sort of failsafe which disallowed double event booking, if possible.

Night Cyan!

[sweet copper]

Still waiting for them to get rid of "excluding general fragments" in events

For years

[mighty gorge]

Already had this conversation earlier. His answer was pretty much, suck it, its your problem, change the truce times.

[spark swallow]

Nah, he just gonna tell you to set your truce to your DD times😂

[vale yoke]

That's not ideal, and frankly, not good enough

[mighty gorge]

Exactly what we said.

[spark swallow]

If you ain't in the top 1% of spenders I don't think he gives a 💩

[vale yoke]

It isn't hard to code an instance which says, "if x is present, y does not engage. If x isn't present, y is allowed"

[merry scroll]

Yes, i understand that. i am pushing dev team to avoid that from happening again. They are discussing whether the solution we've discussed about is possible.

[mighty gorge]

It also seems hard for them to understand the concept of western time zones and appropriate patterns of work.

[vale yoke]

Thanks Saber. While truce times are fine for everyday use when the timing of AD isn't ideal, in terms of a major tournament event, it isn't a mechanic which is effective as intended.

[woven spire]

Solution would be not overblast your servers with random releases and actually test stuff before doing it

[spark swallow]

Who would've have thought just implementing things without thinking about it could have serious consequences

[mighty gorge]

[woven spire]

Would help alot

[wraith vapor]

I maxed him with level 4

[wraith vapor]

Monkey parts were never in operation resurgence 👀👀

[thorny plume]

So how are you compansating us ? i suggest a avarage score compansated based on last migo seasons avarage score. Mine would be around 800 k points as I spendt last rounds just raiding.

Sounds like a plan 👌

[steel musk]

Devs don't have time for that

they more focus on new aircraft

for alliance duels / DD.. R4 could fix that..

if Devs really want fix anything.. they were would fix mining mayhem... 2 months and still nothing

which gen you are?
showdown store still Cardini frags

it's simple example about how devs don't care about bugs or update events

[unreal lichen]

I think there will be 2 planes? Right? Not just one 👀

[steel musk]

I said that before... they focus on make you spend, more bundles, more dumb futures ( new aircraft), and others we got before

[steel musk]

the only thing i am sure about it will be expensive for sure 😂

even Saberlot he is lie when he tell you.. Devs working on bugs or care about feedback
If Devs really care about feedback, we won't have valentine's event today

[unreal lichen]

For sure...have 2 max,half on these stupid new skills wich are not new anymore, also stealth 6t on 4lvl...and for what 🤣 so if i want to keep on track i should buy and for next airplanes, hell nah

[analog nymph]

1 plane and 1 aircraft carrier 😒

[steel musk]

many will quit or stop spend because new aircraft / DD

[steel musk]

It looks like helicopter... so maybe 2

[unreal lichen]

Plus tanks,15 heroes, tempest arms and tempest skills, moral, behemoths, old planes because many people are still not upgrading them, planes skills, t12 research, plasma buildings 13+ because they up barricades, behemoth building, hero build, training buildings, warehouse...40 packs everyday 🤣

[analog nymph]

If FHS Ark CV-1 isint aircraft carrier then its and spacecraft

[wraith vapor]

It's a bomber so it will be like aircraft for rallies

And carrier is also for rallies

But the stats from. Carrier are specially for rallies

[steel musk]

so need upgrad 2?

[wraith vapor]

Yes separately

Different parts for both as well

MKR and Cat posted a video with initial speak peak as bundles on ptr are broken so ll know more soon

[steel musk]

they relase bundles before event 😂

[analog nymph]

If understand their devs info you need the old stuff to get some level( unknown) to even get that spacecraft lol

[austere spoke]

Some bundles pop when you upgrade in ptr. Some where you cant see what's in or buy 😅

[wraith vapor]

So it's not only live server which is broken 😂

[steel musk]

yes to max new aircraft.. you need max the old ones also

[wraith vapor]

Yeah u need to be a certain level on aircraft and heli to unlock them I think

[austere spoke]

And it really seem a pain to upgrade 🙈 amd needs lots of ew material. Plane parts and be upgraded over lvl120 I havent reached the max limit yet

[wraith vapor]

Not sure yet if it's max or a certain level

[austere spoke]

But im out of material even with getting all bundles I could

[steel musk]

certain lvl for open it.. I guess

but max.. not sure

[analog nymph]

YES!!!!!!!! MORE BUNDLES YIPPEE IM SO 🤬 HAPPY

[wraith vapor]

Jeez, it's ridiculous

[wraith vapor]

May I borrow ur CC 😂😂

[wraith vapor]

Ahh ok

[austere spoke]

I'm upset. My typing is hectic 😂

[wraith vapor]

Mee too, I am so happy, I might quit in excitement

[austere spoke]

That's in ptr in live it will be really different 😅🤣

Spent 70k diamonds in few minutes. I felt like a whale 😂

[analog nymph]

All i can say to devs today aswell like yesterday fu😬

[wraith vapor]

I don't think I ever had 70k diamonds. Maybe if u combine 4 months

[tardy night]

Don't worry, fartplus says it will have lowered costs. When have they ever lied or scammed players

[thorny plume]

Dont, suddenly they find you offensive. I was forced to change name from something as nice as conqueeftador to funplusisdumb as the first one was offensive. They have all the time in the world to help players or listen to players but all they spend time on is new features and supressing people on discord

[wraith vapor]

In PTR, does it provide any requirements for unlocking new aircrafts?

[analog nymph]

Actually this has to be said every day

[austere spoke]

Idk my aircraft 1 and heli were maxed already 😅

[analog nymph]

I wont care they can ban me if they want in here and ingame

[wraith vapor]

Oh I meant, anything in rules/requirements within that page?

[marble grove]

Just in case anyone wishes to spend 10k in a day

[analog nymph]

Would be lot easier

[tardy night]

Make it stealth module at 100% to unlock new aircraft. Then sit back

[marble grove]

There is 3rd aircraft?!

[wraith vapor]

Don't you have something better to do 😂😂

[thorny plume]

Then they gonna be really stealthy, so stealthy they cant even be seen

[unreal lichen]

Significantly reduced...BAHAHAHAH,yeah,everyone have a different opinion what reduced is 2% or 20% 🤣

[analog nymph]

Third🤣

[wraith vapor]

No that's the section in formation where u upgrade stats slowly and painfully 😂

[austere spoke]

In fact it was better when I couldn't see carrier bundles. I hope its a joke😅

[thorny plume]

Im not sure but i think prices on things have actually gone up. Didnt 400 crystals costs less then 1000 pearls previusly from Pearl store?

Or am I dreaming

[marble grove]

Haven't upgraded my heli after making 6* but not max, and slowly but surely making way to 6* plane 😂😂

[unreal lichen]

Its actually new plane parts on same section as older generation planes, you need to have em on some lvl, probably maxed

[wraith vapor]

I think 800 gave u 400 crsyals if I remember correctly

[marble grove]

Crystals always been 10 pearls, just they added an extra 100

[thorny plume]

I also think it was 800 for 400

Like 1:2

[wraith vapor]

Huh?

[thorny plume]

Ah

So now we can buy 500, then it makes sense

[wraith vapor]

Ahhh ok

[thorny plume]

But now pearls is 1:20

[tardy night]

Lowered costs they said. Believe them 🫡

[wraith vapor]

Yeah, Heli gave way more individual stats so most people went for it

[thorny plume]

Not 1:10

[unreal lichen]

Yeah, just double 🤣 not triple

[thorny plume]

So the price HAS been tinkered

[empty oxide]

What price was doubled? 🤯

[thorny plume]

Yea seems so

[unreal lichen]

You should up 2

[empty oxide]

The pearls?

[analog nymph]

This ment to be full time job not having fun

[wraith vapor]

Decreased is putting it mildly 😂

[tardy night]

In game rewards have costs increased, packs have contents inflated slowly over time. Usually how it goes.

Once in a while they upgrade in game rewards. 6 months to a year.

[thorny plume]

I firmly believe we had 400 for 500 or something like that aswell a while

[austere spoke]

Cant see anything no

[wraith vapor]

I get paid for a job 😂

[wraith vapor]

Thanks for checking 🤗

[thorny plume]

Now its 500 for 1000, so price has gone up from 1.25 pr crystal to 2.

[analog nymph]

But sos you get shiny new thing to for "free"😌

[wraith vapor]

I don't remember that

I only remember 400 for 800

[wraith vapor]

Yeah, it would be lovely if I was a magpie 😂

[thorny plume]

I remember 400 for 800 aswell, but i think its gotten adjusted a couple times atleast. Now it might just be the number

[analog nymph]

The price has been going up with every bazaar

[steel musk]

Crystal? was 8 pearls for 1
now 10 for 1

[analog nymph]

Nobody ask for them🤣

[wraith vapor]

Was it 8, I honestly don't remember that, might have been earlier during operation festival whne pearls were difficult to obtain without bundles

[analog nymph]

It was much easier for kinda free

[steel musk]

we get same answer always..
🔹i will let devs team know the issues.. ( they don't playing the game lol)
🔹Devs aware of the issues and working on it ( lie they don't work on it )
🔹sumbit feedback and up vote ( useless)
etc etc

[wraith vapor]

Yeah but we got very little pearls free if I remember correctly. Now u get a lot more than earlier operation festival events

Still not enough and never will be but it's a facade

[steel musk]

yes was 8
before pearls was more than now...
formation system was 10
now 12

[thorny plume]

My impression aswell, but atleast we have effortless progress again so guess that counters it but forces us to use em outside of event.

Its always a scheme

[analog nymph]

You get less now just more other 💩

[steel musk]

ya they want empty your backpack so you spend 😂

[wraith vapor]

Well It was really difficult earlier for me to save pearls and buy stuff. I feel we get more but maybe that just me 😅

[thorny plume]

Trick us to save up till you max the effortless and spend it anyways. Then its not worth ranking in event for. 30 percent more crystals is 30 percent more crystals. No event gives 1000 crystals and thousands of plasma as reward.

[analog nymph]

You just buy more lol

[thorny plume]

Or the equivalent

[wraith vapor]

I actually rarely buy pearls

Too much other 💩 to buy 😂

[thorny plume]

That too its harder to get 2500 pearls as f2p, in the start 2000-2500 pearls was quite achieveable

[wraith vapor]

Well if everyone is saying this, must be true 😂

I probably blocked it out like a bad nightmare 😂

[thorny plume]

It is, i spendt a little and could easily rack up alot more then now. And when you grabbed the Sentinel you could also get thousands of hours of speedups

Now you have to spend massive amounts to get the Sentinel as the shards are impossible to get

Could say they catered to whales a little

[wraith vapor]

Hmmm OK, I never went for sentinals, always thought it's useless for me as it only for whales and maxers where every little percentage matter

[wraith vapor]

What isn't?

[thorny plume]

They are useless for normies. I just grabbed em when I had enough shards to grab them first day with low entry cost because then it was worth it

Because of the red crystal thing store

[wraith vapor]

Yeah I remember that

[analog nymph]

I have the bell sentinel 🤣

[wraith vapor]

I have a few but got it randomly from places or crafted from general frags, never went for them

[thorny plume]

Wait what isnt it "just" 1? My Lord lol, its so bad its starting to get comical

[analog nymph]

Crafted it thou with the general peaces

[wraith vapor]

Specially during DD, as they know DYZ and FBI will max them for the final 😂😂

[analog nymph]

Because had them from the first circuit event

[thorny plume]

But rally leaders need both ?!

I guess im a joiner then

[wraith vapor]

Yes

[thorny plume]

👌 im a joiner now, lol

[analog nymph]

🤣

🤣

🤣

[thorny plume]

We are, but the big one looks nifty, and expensive

[wraith vapor]

They are slow but don't know about slowing down

[analog nymph]

They are quick if it a bundle or some exploitable glitch

[wraith vapor]

Oh I don't mean slow physically 😂😂

[analog nymph]

They are slow mentally

[wraith vapor]

Thanks for explaining the joke 🤣🤣

[steel musk]

wait for 3rd Behemoth

[analog nymph]

🙄😒

[wraith vapor]

Yeah won't be far off. I give it two months

[steel musk]

yup 😂

[analog nymph]

Behemoths are the reason im just tapping bot

So i truly hate those

[wraith vapor]

Most low spender even have the same problem. It's just not realistic or feasible

[spark swallow]

Their definition of slowing down is not adding completely new things but just adding new things to old stuff😂

[steel musk]

thanks nanami

[wraith vapor]

I don't know if they understand the meaning of new 🤣

[analog nymph]

Spanking isn't enough anymore Nanami😒

[dense lance]

maybe it's the problem, they've learned to enjoy

[spark swallow]

True, they love reusing and copying othere😂

[woven spire]

We dont need to max them😂

[wraith vapor]

They even copy wrong codes

[woven spire]

Will get f r anyway

We get funplused

[spark swallow]

Only thing I'm looking forward to in DD is that DYZ and FBI final, gonna be a s**t show

[wraith vapor]

Yeah not the type of Fd I enjoy.

We say that everytime 🤣

[woven spire]

Ye but whats the point maxint things

When its obvious who wins

Esince matching is also not rng

You probally know when its gg aswell😂

And the rewards.... not eben gonna talk about that

More 😂

[wraith vapor]

Well maybe but there are some who will spend still

No deature cost less than 20k now I think

[spark swallow]

That is called a horrible investment😂

[wraith vapor]

I think that ship has sailed 😂

[tame lintel]

They realize they program "the system" ya??

And had a year since last dd

[dense lance]

they copy and pasted a lot of it

[spark swallow]

Fix ETA 3-4 Months

"Fix"

You got free stuff? Sorry we invade backpack and take away😂

We still playing aren't we?😂

[tame lintel]

3 token for auto complete is hardly fixing the issue.
I have a full alliance. Dd took 45.
I still have 55 That want rr rewards and migo completion

[spark swallow]

If it doesn't involve money or have the potential for money making they do not care

[dense lance]

While I agree them clawing that back was lousy, that really isn't how software works. Probably the code for RR and RRL/Doomsday are meant to be mutually exclusive per alliance and they might have tried to tinker with it and it made other things crash. It's probably also related to the game being like 7 GB of bandaids and spaghetti

[tame lintel]

Well that would be automatic if your bank lost its license.. you wouldn't even be able to debit at a store

Not sos

[spark swallow]

Sure but only 5 exchanges per week

Just enough to do an upgrade

[dense lance]

if they do I feel like they'll announce it early so people will stock up on old aircraft parts for Doomsday (then you'll only be able to trade like 50 of them)

why dip when you could double dip

[tame lintel]

I uninstalled and re-installed and got it down to 6 gb. Fyi😅

[dense lance]

progress!

🤣

[tame lintel]

Not that it's still not band-aids😅

[spark swallow]

Don't try playing 2 different acc on PC version it downloads the entire game again, so you end up with 12Gb

[tame lintel]

I'd need to own a pc first🤣

Or want to😅

[dense lance]

current State of APK

[analog nymph]

But reserves dont get migo task done

Either

So basically 30 only who get the quest done if they show up that is

[tame lintel]

Why?

Why ya gotta go make things worse

Why can't ya just not tell me that

[dense lance]

because you have to actually earn RR points, so if they don't go in they don't get points

[tame lintel]

🤬🤬

[spark swallow]

Even with they allow RR for DD registered alliances 40 players in a 100/100 alliance won't get rewards

[tame lintel]

Lol. I know why😅

[analog nymph]

Sorry😬

[wraith vapor]

No they will close the ticket within 24 hours without an answer 😂

I wish my job was this easy

[mighty gorge]

Mooooosssseeee. I have a question. FUN? Anything you can tell me, inside scoop 😆

[wraith vapor]

Run 😂

[tame lintel]

Prepare to extinguish fires🤷‍♂️🤣

[wraith vapor]

We are against a Fun too 😅😅. We dying tomorrow

[tame lintel]

But I will give you 1 tip..

[worldly sable]

It’s him

[tame lintel]

The match starts at 15utc😉

[spark swallow]

The D word is a bad word you know

Was always blocked in game too😂