📋︱feedback-discussion

[rocky otter]

Today, some people were saying that they were actually selling red tickets, but they are definitely selling stickers. This sticker couldn't get anywhere until now until they sold it in bundles. This game getting worse and worse every day

[mighty gorge]

People should be shot for buying stickers.

[rocky otter]

Yeah i saw some people buying everyhing, literally everything

[mighty gorge]

I'm not sure whats worse, spending money on them, or creating bundles for them in the first place

[unreal lichen]

I guess if people buy them it's justified?

[steel musk]

when we will have p15?

[normal peak]

People buy garbage, it will keep them making garbage

[steel musk]

not all them buy

some get it free

[terse agate]

Yeah, that doesn’t matter……
Either the devs truly don’t care what they do, or they have no clue about the impact of their choices……
But what is most likely…… It’s both 🤣😂

Nobody has gen 16 yet, but we do get matched already in pow with older states (over 500 states older).
Still weird, that if gen 13 and 14 are not of interest by the devs, that when I look at the battle reports it is the gens 13 and 14 that keep beating my ass….

But, our state range isn’t allowed the same rewards or a fair game play, according to the devs…..
Thanks devs😘😘

[steel musk]

Devs : transfer

[unreal lichen]

I will fix your autocorrect....... Devs = trash

[steel musk]

they have many names

[unreal lichen]

TrashPanda

[gusty dove]

Why is there a KOTH tournament now? 😳
I know literally noone who likes this event.
Now the devs create a tournament.
I already had the impression that devs do the exact opposite of what their players asked for.
This KOTH tournament is another confirmation.
Whats next? Feeding Frenzy tournament?

[austere spoke]

Alliance duel tournament

[woven spire]

Why not labyrint tournament

[austere spoke]

Behemoth trial ?

[woven spire]

I am going to drown you😂

[terse agate]

Will the KotH tournament be perhaps also running during the transfer event?????
listening with full attention
🤔🤔🤔

[tardy night]

Just tier based segregation, koth needed this

[gusty dove]

can anyone delete all these proposals, so devs dont get bad ideas? 😅

[tardy night]

Be out of alliance on Sunday I guess lol

[steel musk]

Infected fiend tournament

[gusty dove]

"what is state transfer?"
-- KOTH developer

[terse agate]

Worst part is, we are laughing, but it is most likely true 😬

[gusty dove]

yes, thats the sad thing 😅

[terse agate]

😬💯

[terse agate]

How about a pow, only match 500+ states against 100- states……
Oh wait, they already did😂🤣😂

[gusty dove]

"what are states?"
-- POW developer

[steel musk]

it was better when everyone have same march on POW

[terse agate]

"Is there a difference between states?"
-- POW developer

[steel musk]

but they changed it

[gusty dove]

i guess there are too many dev groups without decent management, who just get a task to develop a feature (bug?).
Noone in KG/FP cares that all the features together work.
I got this impression since FP took over the game

[steel musk]

FP useless

[terse agate]

music playing
It’s all about the money, dumb dumb tada dumb…

[steel musk]

yup if they still get money.. anything else doesn't matter

It's time to make our game..
just don't know how to start lol

[gusty dove]

its not even that.
noone at KG seems to have a plan how to earn the most money.
What they are currently doing is just counter productive.
Let people buy packs, remove the rewards and give some useless compensation to players.
Every half intelligent manager would see this is the worst idea ever, if you want your customers continue paying

[steel musk]

they will keep spend.. some of them stuck in this game

[mighty gorge]

State Transfer Tournament?

[gusty dove]

uninstall game tournament

[austere spoke]

They have time to develop that bug.. feature… however it’s called

[mighty gorge]

The winners get to stay in a state where nothing works

[cloud ridge]

We're all winners already then?

[steel musk]

I would suggest devs tournament.. To find which one fix bugs faster

[mighty gorge]

You got it 😉

[austere spoke]

If no one competes there can’t be a winner 😅

[mighty gorge]

You need 600 tickets to enter

[woven spire]

Ada thinks she funny

[terse agate]

Only 600?!?!

[austere spoke]

Ah thinks he is smart 😝

[woven spire]

I am😂

[mighty gorge]

Don't be too smart, FP would want to employ you

[austere spoke]

True. You are my friend 😂

[woven spire]

Ok maybe i am stupid

😂😂

[gusty dove]

nah, the recent game development makes me assume the opposite 😏

[woven spire]

Devs only employ indian kids

[ancient kayak]

Sure, i think its a horde of Monkeys sitting in the office, pushing buttons randomly and throwing with poop.
One piece of poop was hitting the tournament creator last night. Boom KotH tournament was born.

[austere spoke]

Oooooh horde tournament 🤣

[mighty gorge]

You're giving them far too much credit. More like it hit the keyboard and 'went live' after they saw the design on the back of a cigarette packet

[gusty dove]

intel exploration tournament.
Spend 25 hours a day and you will win

[mighty gorge]

I need this in my life. We could have state vs state horde

[steel musk]

they need fix that

can't do pz in other state

[austere spoke]

But without stam

[steel musk]

I have 12k stam. I will be the winner

[mighty gorge]

You're a dev!

[steel musk]

If i was, i will delete Behemoth trials

[mighty gorge]

You mean you don't like walking around in circles for hours on end?

[gusty dove]

and feeding frenzy?

[mighty gorge]

I'm sure whoever came up with that idea got promoted to lead developer

[steel musk]

My Behemoth is too lazy.. not even walk. stuck 😂

[gusty dove]

How about a combination of behemoth trials and FF?
Behemoth has to jump in circles and collect food by playing Mahjongg at the same time?
Of course there will be no chance to collect enough food to survive round one except you pay for it

@gentle blaze, no I dont apply as developer 😏

[bleak wolf]

Hi hi Dr. Greenthumb
Can I send you a dm?

[tacit roost]

I have a question about the Koth thing.... If i understand this right it goes over 11 weeks. Are we locked in our alliance for this time? Because there is a merge and a transfer event announced already

[gusty dove]

if only developers were aware of this problem ... 😒

[slate gyro]

sure

[sleek gust]

devs please make trap tournament between state..also horde state vs state, ahh dont forget to PZ state vs state toooo...

[terse agate]

@tacit roost I’m wondering the same🤣😂🤣😂
But, since the dev teams don’t work together, it probably will

[ancient kayak]

I'm already prepared for trap state vs state. Always offer to the SVS burning squads to stay for trap, just dont destroy it. We have only one of those uglies 🙄

[tacit roost]

for this rewards its better to skip legion 1...

[terse agate]

Meh, I don’t want to transfer….
I hate what the devs are doing to my state, but the people here are great

[sleek gust]

FP with stupid idea create useless event and nonsense. KG with stupid futures to kill this game experience. and both stupid and nonsense

[tacit roost]

We need a merge. So many quit in the past few weeks. I guess many will change the alliance after we merged

So better not get locked

[gusty dove]

you have a major advantage, which devs dont have.
You are playing the game and see how different game mechanics interact with each other.
devs seem to be blind to this aspect

[tacit roost]

they are not only blind also deaf for feedback

[bleak wolf]

Hi hi NeverDie
Which state you are?

[tacit roost]

848

[tacit roost]

you?

[bleak wolf]

If you’re asking yourself: you can play KoH. It will end before State Transfer Event. So you will be not locked in

[bleak wolf]

Im in State 565

[tacit roost]

it says 11 weeks

[tacit roost]

i dont care about transfer!! we wait for the merge

if you take out 5 key players out of my state, the state is dead...

there are only players left that kill intel on the loo

[gusty dove]

So the game announcement is already obsolete?

[bleak wolf]

I will search for it 🔎

[tacit roost]

no need, he posted above the news

we just wait for the list of the merging states. We selected already ambassador to have a happy merge

[olive sluice]

Wait... KotH registration blocks State Transfer? And no one is informed about this?! Another classic FunMinus fail?

"We are so sorry for the inconvenience, unfortunately you need to wait until the next state transfer in 3.. wait ..unknown months, here are 100 biocaps and 5 map searches for the emotional damage."

[steel musk]

it's like Doomsday.. will block you in alliance only

[gusty dove]

no tomatoes? 😔

[steel musk]

I wonder what happened to Rusty frags.. long time didn't get it as compensation

[spark kindle]

That's not certain yet, I've asked as well. I've been waiting for transfer for 3 months 🫠

[austere spoke]

They gave too many of them. Only the free sarge frags in alliance store now

[gusty dove]

I wish I had discovered Rusty yet.
But the good news is I found Ghost 3 weeks ago 😍

[olive sluice]

"only when the last Rusty fragment was recycled... you'll notice that he got promoted to godless level, and you need 1001 fragments to unlock it....

[gusty dove]

thats literally three weeks ago, in state 178 😂

[spark kindle]

Apparently you've been neglecting him so they wanted to orchestrate a reunion

[gusty dove]

well, I should have involved him more.
My bad 🙈

[spark kindle]

Of course 😌

[gusty dove]

ill give him a chance in my first march during next SvS 😰

[spark kindle]

Some states do cc with blue-purple heroes for funsies, give him a chance 😂

[gusty dove]

how about removing all heros, behemoth and aircraft from my first march? 🥸

[frail path]

It says that the temperature is 48, but this indicates i have passed 50 right?

I cant claim the 3 Poly reward

[gusty dove]

the 50 mark is here, the scale is bugge ... featured ... 🙂

[ancient kayak]

Oh i love that idea 😍😍 wanted to have it in our state too for finally fun CC again, purple Heros and t1 🤣 ... but no 🙄

[frail path]

Oh damn, i thought so

Thanks for clarifying it for me

[gusty dove]

youre welcome 😌

[steel musk]

Naughty hero

[frail path]

Mommy

I love it

[worldly sable]

Be nice, she has lumbar lordosis and a drooling problem

[frail path]

Drooling is not a problem

[worldly sable]

She's def trying to shove drool back in

[frail path]

She's freaky 😂

Finally something good in this game thanks @merry scroll

[mighty gorge]

👀

[gusty dove]

spend 1 hour in hero menu ... this should be a challenge in game

[cloud ridge]

hmmmmm

[gusty dove]

pay for 10 overpriced items to get 8 for free 😏

[frail path]

This must be a prank or something

If i was the richest man on the planet i wouldn't buy that pack

[gusty dove]

i should found a shop.
Pay 100$ for 10 cookies.
you get 8 cookies for free.
grab it now 😎

[slate badge]

Actually it would be only 4 free

The 2 at the bottom comes after the other 499 pack 👀

Its
1 2 3
6 5 4

[gusty dove]

i thought its the right part of the first row first, then the left part of the second row 🤔
At least thats how the game presented it to me 🙈

[gusty dove]

oh another trick ...

[slate badge]

Check the little arrows between the items

[frail path]

You can see the arrows

[gusty dove]

they point in the wrong direction 😂

[frail path]

You can literally get a better deal then that

[gusty dove]

1000% off, what are you waiting for? 😏

[steel musk]

Still better than sticker bundle

[frail path]

Not sure what's worse to be honest, they are competing with each other 😂

[gusty dove]

right, a completely overpriced bundle is better then an only "mildly" overpriced bundle 😂

[frail path]

20 plasma for 5$ or 20 Skin tickets for 5$ 😂

[mighty gorge]

Whatever they are smoking, I want some

[slate badge]

You can get ressources for 5$

Sounds much better than that

[frail path]

They must be on some "i never played this game before" type of weed

[gusty dove]

if you get some, ill join 😊

[slate badge]

1592%

[steel musk]

it was there bug when you click on bundle.. It's auto buying.. still in game ?

[steel musk]

I wanna sale my rss to sos devs 🤣🤣

[mighty gorge]

Just replace that "r" with an "a" and you'll be golden

[gusty dove]

remember, one maddie frag is worth 13 Euros ....
10 euros / 15 frags x 19,21

[steel musk]

then they gonna make an azz event

[steel musk]

we still have it

when we already have ton of her frags from pz

[gusty dove]

same here 😂

i currently have 410 maddie frags 😅

[steel musk]

I have almost 1k

[gusty dove]

but let me buy more for 15/10euros 😌

[steel musk]

it's need alot on gen 13 for skills

3k for all her skills

Oh wait it's more then 3k 👀

[gusty dove]

so you can spend 2000€ to get the required 3k ☺️

[steel musk]

or skip it and save money 😂

[frail path]

Wait how does that pack cost 10 euros for you

[gusty dove]

whats the price in your state?

[steel musk]

I think depends on state age

[steel musk]

still trash bundle

even if for 1$ 🤣

[gusty dove]

ok, so let me do a conclusion ....
In states which more likely already have more maddie frags, maddie frags are more expansive.
I love SoS dev logic 🤣

[steel musk]

Maddie have a dog.. depends if you buy her with dog or without..
Maddie alone = 5$
with her dog = 10$

better i delete before devs take this idea

[gusty dove]

dog = 2,99, maddie = 2,99.
Bundle price 9,99.

[steel musk]

I will send my troops to gather.. other way i need spend 10$ for rss

[gusty dove]

be aware that playing the new golden thingy hero thingy returns your troops from gathering.
Another "feature" of the game which is completely illogical

[proud dagger]

the new golden thingy hero thingy?

[gusty dove]

yes

[proud dagger]

ah okay battle royale 👍 thanks!

[gusty dove]

yep, sorry, my game is in german only 🙈

[ancient kayak]

I dont understand my game in german anymore. Had it too long in english 😅

[proud dagger]

Our MIGO ends on November 5th and if MIGO stays on previous schedule, we have two weeks before the next one begins on November 20th. The assumption is that State Transfer will happen during this two week period and KotH falls right in the middle. So the State Transfer open migration period has to happen after KotH Qualifying Match on Sunday November 12th to allow people to leave their alliance and transfer out. Is this correct?

[tardy night]

Mergers before transfers. So they're gonna delay Migo I would guess unless they have both within a week of each other.

[mighty gorge]

You have to feel sorry...for some people........maybe. 🙈

[proud dagger]

Oh great, delayed MIGO again. I suppose this is just the new normal.

[gusty dove]

im not sure how many euros one diamond is 😅

[normal peak]

How do they plan on doing merger with this stupid tournament

I remember merger is basically start game over again alliance wise

[tardy night]

Koth tournament would be alliance based. So your tag keeps the history I reckon

[gusty dove]

they dont plan

[proud dagger]

They merged us mid-Doomsday Tournament, it won't change anything. Transfers leaving after KotH round one will leave a lot of teams hanging though.

[normal peak]

Just add building towers to list of crap added to do now with the 1.4m events

Makes sense

[proud dagger]

The towers are deployable 😂 you don't have to build

[normal peak]

Up to a certain point

Then you have to wait

[proud dagger]

Actually you can't build much, you get like 12 towers a day. Takes 5min for the first 2 weeks.

[tardy night]

We probably don't get a merge anyway

[normal peak]

There is no money in a merge..transfer passes people buy

[proud dagger]

I'll take a merge and welcome some transfers both, would like somebody to help with svs.

[normal peak]

Merging a dead state into a live one doesn’t make people spend more lol

[mighty gorge]

I don't personally think they have enough time to plan any kind of merge. State Transfers would be utterly pointless with the annoucment that its back on the table.

[tardy night]

Check what Saberlot posted in the #state-transfer-merger channel

[normal peak]

So if merger is a bad one and everyone transfers out then it was kinda pointless to even have merger

[proud dagger]

It still consolidates players. Not everyone will transfer out and if you're talking about dead states that don't spend, they can't leave.

[cloud ridge]

i dno man, it was on my farm and it could do with the tickets 😏

[tardy night]

I mean, if there's two conflicting sides or more, it's better to let them go separate ways than force lock them in and let one side die out

[normal peak]

Sure they can…this is week 43 of year..43 weeks to collect tickets..plenty can leave

[tardy night]

At least a few states around us had instant war the moment they landed.

[proud dagger]

You assume everyone can get one ticket per week, that's a stretch, or that they would know 43 weeks ago to get transfer tickets. I mean come on.

[tardy night]

Lol. So many who won't have 1 ticket yet

[proud dagger]

That's a fantasy

[normal peak]

If they didn’t then sucks for them..game will end probably for them

[mighty gorge]

State mergers are a short term fix, and I'm sure they will try it again next year.

[normal peak]

Usually people who didn’t save are in a semi healthy state

[proud dagger]

If that's your answer, then right back atcha 😂

[normal peak]

I transferred already I’m not going anywhere

[proud dagger]

You're asking why they're doing it, I told you why, you don't like it, sucks for you.

[mighty gorge]

I mean, take 417 and 398, when we merged 398 was a dead state (and toxic) and 417 active. They merged into us, and we were dead again 3 months after

[tardy night]

They should let states choose. While imposing restrictions on what should not be merged

[normal peak]

That would be smart

But they need to make this round of merger at least between 3 states..2 states won’t cut it anymore

[tardy night]

Put up barriers based on strength and activity. Let folks choose. And keep transfers going. It's not like they haven't done this before.

[mighty gorge]

If they stopped opening new states, they wouldn't have to merge constantly

[proud dagger]

I transferred out first I could after state merge. Sometimes it just doesn't work, sometimes it does. This whole game is various forms of gambling, merge and transfer are just more of the same gambling.

[mighty gorge]

All they are doing is widening the pool of players who are spread out, instead of incentivising players just like other games do

[normal peak]

They should just keep taking all the left overs and pressing them all into a few states..more die out keep pressing them together until there is nothing left

[proud dagger]

Is that not what they are doing with merges? Just really really slowly...

[stable cosmos]

Man id be happy with a 1 month break from migo. Never ending grind

[normal peak]

You can save supplies then

[stable cosmos]

And relax, skip trap. Not play every event.

[mighty gorge]

I dont' feel like I'm playing to enjoy when its like this, I feel like I'm playing so that I am still competative, and I dont' lose out on important rewards.

[gusty dove]

so devs will double the amount of Mogio tasks soon

[tardy night]

You want them to bring it all in over Christmas eh

200k Christmas spirit with Halloween banner?

[stable cosmos]

They csn start the new one next year

[normal peak]

😂😂

4000% for a Christmas statue upgrade

[mighty gorge]

Why not, they can drop in a bunch more bundles too, you know have the parents and such spend their kids christmas money in game

[gusty dove]

coming up next: double Migo.
Migo dev team one doesnt know that Migo dev team two exists.
Thats my educated guess how FP will manage the game

[mighty gorge]

Hell, lets go one step further, do it during winter when there are people living with fuel poverty. I'm sure FP wouldn't care about people dying due to cold.

[still tapir]

Well look at what they did with this last anniversary event so you can be sure Christmas event will be just as expensive.

[mighty gorge]

Migo Tournament? So dual migo, competing head to head against which state groups can spend the most and win a Lamborghini

[normal peak]

It will be more expensive

[gusty dove]

yes 😂

[tardy night]

It's just before the Chinese New year. Bonuses gotta be paid out.

[still tapir]

How many new decorations came out for the anniversary event 5 or 6. Plus 2 sentinels. 3 or 4 skin sets. Star accession, the lap thing. A behemoth skin, and a super special and rare resonating hero. I’m sure I’m missing something. 😂

[mighty gorge]

Year of the Rat (s)

[still tapir]

Oh that which is also always expensive

[mighty gorge]

Oh wait, no....damn....

Andy Zhong will be getting training in how to count money

I mean he has no experience in anything else...so why not

[still tapir]

Dragon tamer resonating hero. A Targaryen hero

[gusty dove]

he will probably establish a new dev team in antarctica that will be guaranteed to have no contact with other SoS devs.
The next game success is guaranteed 😏

[mighty gorge]

In order to talk to them, you have to go to a web page and input a series of random characters, followed by completing a psychometric test. Once thats done, you get to ask ChatGPT if you can talk to CS.

[worldly sable]

I thought they were going to remove Alliance Duel from MIGO

[terse agate]

@merry scroll it is again the issue of the special states that comes in the top 10 of feedbacks…..
We lost nearly all pow matches, since we are up against states that are 500+ states older, all the reports show we got killed by gens 13 and 14.
The heroes for our defence will stay way weaker for a while since older states just have more stronger heroes…..
And I didn’t even mention the fact we have gotten less certificates of honour due to a missed Migo…..
May I ask you, do the devs even understand the game?
Do they know that most accounts aren’t maxed?
Can’t they see that even the maxed in our bracket only got in the top 100 in pow because they played with people from older states????
Again I ask you why they favour states over others. Because that’s what they are doing when they give this message…..

And this time it is my bracket (which has gotten a lot of beatings from the devs), but next time they decide to beat another bracket…
Why?
Do they get a bonus for it?

[terse agate]

Perhaps @feral sinew or @gray dragon can answer

[narrow marsh]

Next migo. Which you won't be getting. So the one after that

[worldly sable]

This is happening to our states soon too and I will quit if there is no way to catch up. It's completely ridiculous to skip 4 generations, that is an entire year of hero building. I absolutely refuse to be forced into unfair gameplay. I will ask all of my members to quit then too.

Especially for the amount of money being asked from top players now, it's pretty fudging stupid. Keep spending to get screwed

[terse agate]

As soon as the matching pool of the older states are dried up, they will start to skip hero gens for younger states, they have done it before and they’ll continue with that

Not only did we skip 2 hero gens (not entirely because we got them together with the latest, while previous states completely skipped them), we also got skipped on Migo AND we are one of the few states that had 2 state merges instead of one, so currently we are only matched with whale states…….
We are getting beating after beating of the devs….
And our whales currently don’t matter to the devs…
Seems older states are more important to them

[worldly sable]

That's silly when new states spend more lol

[terse agate]

We are in the 500’s

[worldly sable]

I looked at boards across all ranges during anni event, old states were getting top prizes with under 10k laps lmao, our states were like 20k, some even past 30k laps in the 1000s

[terse agate]

I truly understand, players that have been playing the game for so so long, should be cherished…..
However, we also play for over 3 years now.

[worldly sable]

There's also some players that got extra stablizers, which seems super fair in gameplay....

All this talk of fairness from devs, when none actually exists in game

[terse agate]

I don’t think the devs should ever be allowed to take the words “fair” or “balanced” into their mouths

[woven spire]

Yall want to buy 4 hero generations like we did?😂

Also those gen heroes are much more expensive then the gen 15 and 12

You you not gonna get it for free would be super unfair tho

But should get the chance to buy. Wouldnt recommend tho😂

[worldly sable]

At least when they had age of outreach, they "tried" to bridge the gap a little bit. It's not like this is something they've never done lmao

[terse agate]

Unless they make those OP limitless as well

[steel musk]

why can't get those heros? No frags?

[woven spire]

The issue started when they killed states off with behemoths and stuff. Making matchmaking pool lower. The second issue start ahen they try to fix this by adding states generations behind

Now the last issue

We payed thousands for these gens

Will you to?

Even they outdated

Imo this all is not fixable and a big mess

[steel musk]

when new gen come, old gen take vacation

[worldly sable]

That's untrue, some old states still use old heroes in pvp

because their skills are better

[woven spire]

Like what once?

At the start yes

But new heroes are always trash cause FP release bugged stuff

But i can tell you. No one using below gen 15. Best you see is olly with robert

Well as second march but not first

If new heroes wouldnt be better. Why would anyone buy them

Espicially since garisson changed

They should give states the option to buy them. But would be stupid if you just get a maxed blue hero for free. Unless they refund old states lol

[steel musk]

We didn't get gen 13 yet. So we will skip them and get gen 15?

[woven spire]

Idk depends with who they want to match you

If old states yes

[umbral cliff]

That’s a very good suggestion you can word it in proper format and submit here https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606 let player upvote it thanks

[steel musk]

we still on gen 10 🙈

[woven spire]

We have vouchers are 3 gens

Lol will take a half year before you get there😂

But probally they will match 1 - 1000 at some point cause all dies

[charred swift]

After months of asking we finally have another chat, thanks Devs

[steel musk]

why wanna more chat in game.. here better

[woven spire]

Ye and a yellow dot😂

[still storm]

But yesterday multiple GMs said next week is the last AD also I read someone tested truce on farm alliance and it works which shouldn’t be possible on last week of AD?

[digital glacier]

There's to many locations to make changes to
New gear - hero screen
P8+ gems - troop buildings
March screen - 1 slot for heroes - 1 slot for Behemoth - 1 slot for aircraft
World event talent points
Chief talent points

At least with p8 gems, it was for all heroes.
Now there's attribute gear for heroes for an individual hero.
If one wants to effectively play trap, you want damage, not defense / defense reduction / Behemoth reduction / airplane reduction

P8 gems were bad with this, but this is just horrendous.
We are beginning to need 1 screen with a computer games style preset screen with 50 options available to choose
We need 6 march presets
P8 gem presets at least 3 for solo attack - trap - rally
Preset for using behemoths and aircraft, not designated auto highest aircraft.

[nova jetty]

I agree the the presets need to be updated . Could you please add these thoughts to our #📋︱feedback-reporting channel so we can upvote it ! Thanks !

[digital glacier]

As soon as 1 bug gets fixed I will 🤣

Why is it different price 🤔

Never been this way before

They must be doing pricing like map searches for hq skin events 🤣

[stable cosmos]

Their pricing of items is stupid anyway. Like why is 100 exp for formation that much? 100 exp is nothing...

On that subject, using your plane or heli for ANYTHING should probably be experience. Not a lot, but some. And not defined by what it was actually used for. Infected, fiends, pvp. Exp for all of them. Small numbers and maybe only 10 times a day. Give us something ongoing

[formal nacelle]

If you would like to submit feedback on this you can do here https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606, And if you prefer , I can do it for you.

[terse agate]

Well currently, we get matched in pow, with only the first march similar, but the second march is trash, so how’s that fair

[woven spire]

Iknow

How you want to fix this

By buying it aswell?

Its just a issue sos created and its not really fixable

[terse agate]

Then in RR we’ll get matched as well, while our first march is similar, the rest isn’t….
Point is….
If they want to match us with older states, then the devs need to take their time….
And make sure that the playing fields are even….
Yes you paid thousands, but so do our whales, just because older states played longer, why should we pay double in the release time now, is that fair?

[terse agate]

I think they should make it competitive…..
And level the playing field….
Because in our case it is hero gens, skipped Migo AND a double merge…..
Not just one issue they threw on us

They keep pushing us down

Losing rewards as well

[serene turtle]

What’s going on with behemoth trails? I completed it last night and now it’s been reset and I need to buy the bundle again?

[terse agate]

Is that fair? For someone that pays an equal amount as players from an older state per month?

[woven spire]

Also skipped migo

But how you want to fix the hero stuff

[woven spire]

Ye thats false

You have no idea what we payed for😂

We easily have close to 500k in while new states can do the same for 100

[terse agate]

We played for over 3 years as well

Yes, not 4

Just saying, if the devs want to match us with older states, because those states want to have a fun game, even the playing field

Or leave it as is

Let the matching pool of the older states shrink

But we all want to have fun matches

Competitive

[worldly sable]

True, not looking for an advantage, just an even playing ground

[terse agate]

We don’t want the matching pools to drie out

[formal nacelle]

Groot, I can see that you are unhappy with various parts of the game, and I may understand your dissatisfaction, I ask you to help the community in the best way possible, leaving your feedback here https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606 following the proper structure, and in case you prefer, I can do it for you. Thank you.

[worldly sable]

And we shouldn’t be punished because the devs ruined the game

[terse agate]

Please stop that….
It’s in the last top 10 of feedbacks AND in the last September top 10 feedbacks

Thank you

But I will go to bed now

So have fun

[formal nacelle]

Leave your vote if you haven't already, and encourage your fellow players to vote up.

[terse agate]

Hun, even if it is voted the most…..
It doesn’t matter, does it?

BUT!!!! Even if it is…..
I am not allowed to talk about it anymore, so it seems

[formal nacelle]

Yes, it matters and the Feedbacks with the most votes are the ones that remain at the top at the end of the month to work on them.

[worldly sable]

Nah, we should complain forever

[terse agate]

Seems I am not allowed

I get this reply and now I am also asked to keep my mouth shut

[worldly sable]

Yeah, Saberlot told me this in DMs

[formal nacelle]

Yes, you can discuss your opinion, that's what this channel is for, I just remind you all that the best way to make it noticed is through Feedback reports.

[worldly sable]

I explained why they are incorrect

They are discussing it

But I see no movement so here we are

[woven spire]

Devs just ruined the game with behemoths lol

Some states are completly dead

Not even 1 whale

So Pool is so low

I think newer states die fast and most have like 1 alliance max thats strong

[terse agate]

I know a few states in the 900’s that aren’t dead at all

[woven spire]

900+ is not that old but saw states cant even finis state intel

At start

[terse agate]

In the end, they need the help of the newer states, so the game stays fun for the players of the older states…
I am just trying to make sure that each time they put younger states in the matching pool with older states, that the devs make it so that also the younger states are competitive…
That they don’t loose rewards, just because they can’t compete…
Our players already have less rewards, because we are 8 states in 1 .
Because they skipped Migo….
And now they put us into the matching pool with older states as well

[terse agate]

I am now in a 500 state, I started in a 400 state tho

[woven spire]

Aah well these games alwayss do this

Koa had 1-1000 i think

Sos wont be different

You guys dont have gen 13 14 in vouchers?

[terse agate]

Nope

Gen 15

[woven spire]

Wrd

Wtf

We have all 3

Gen 13 14 15

Thats weird 😂

I wont recommend paying for 13 14 anyway but should be in

[terse agate]

Oh wait, we have them all….

🤣😂

[woven spire]

Bruh😂

Well goodluck maxing them like we did😂

Cause free rewards are so low. Its ridicilous

[terse agate]

However, older states had the gen 13 first for a while

[woven spire]

And gen 13 14 need 120 per skill

[terse agate]

Then gen 14

And now gen 15

[woven spire]

Yes ?

But you get them for cheaper

14 vouchers i think

[terse agate]

Meaning they got more time to grow

[terse agate]

Same as you?

[nova jetty]

People moving on with life is inevitable people get bored and quit so states die . New states get filled with people just joining to check it out and then leave when it's not for them. Leaves gaps in the states populations

[woven spire]

No i payed 20 vouchers

Yes time cant make up

[terse agate]

And they are still 20 vouchers???

[woven spire]

Not noe but we maxed them for expensiver

I even recycle frags at this point 😂

All are maxed

But for original price

[terse agate]

What I keep saying is give us the possibility as well….
What’s the max you could have bought for 15,000 bios and what is the max we can???
Why do you feel we have to pay double or triple for 12 weeks because you did that too but in 36 weeks???
Again if the DEVS decide something like this, why do the newer states have to pay the debt?????

Then keep the matching pools as they are now

But again, that doesn’t benefit either of us

[woven spire]

So what is your solution?

We dont have gen 1-12 tho😂

[terse agate]

I suggested to the devs to give us the materials they gave the older states as well, the same possibilities, keep the extra materials in a way it can ONLY be used for the gens 13 and 14, plus extra possibilities to buy them as well for the people that want it….
Light weight materials for a reduced price and light weight materials for a reduced amount of bios as well, to make up for the 24 weeks other states had them longer

[woven spire]

So 12 weeks of 15k bios vouchers?

Light wright msterials well. Basically you saying you should pay half

I think all old states should be refunded then

They made a good mess

[terse agate]

Because it needs to be sped up, since we’ll be at more costs to upgrade them all in a speedy time

So, if you are saying, since you played longer then us, we shouldn’t get it a bit cheaper to speed up, then basically you are saying either, keep the old matching pools or , yaaay, we have some states to annihilate again

Because they played shorter then us they are weaker

Thus, do not deserve rewards either

Instead of thinking, yaaay, we have more possibilities of nice and competitive fights

So, even if we have players that pay a similar monthly amount, they are not allowed to be competitive, since they haven’t played as long as we did

But, 1:30 here

[woven spire]

No. What i say is. People payed not long ago the full price for it. You cant get all for "free" that would be super unfair

That money could be used to upgrade other stuff

Which you then have the opperunity to do

While you in the same range

Thats unfair for old atates. Not like these heroes are 3 years old

[stable cosmos]

We had a catch up with gen derek and bingo. I can never remember numbers. Game looked at what our previous gen had got to and we wound up with something like same frags minus 30% or something. Any further was a cost. But this was BEFORE limitless and the bs that is expensive potions

And the further bs that is advanced vs normal potions where both cost the same despite normal being for weaker heroes that according to the devs, suck, so logically should be cheaper

[pallid willow]

Im confused again😭 wasn’t azurtane supposed to be for registration today already? Or wtf

[stable cosmos]

Yep. Not there. Not in migo for today either. Please devs. Don't turn it on last minute. Its off. Just leave it like that till next week. We can go without rather than you messing up timings for people

[olive sluice]

no. one week Azurtane, one week Royale

[pallid willow]

Ohhhh

[stable cosmos]

They were doing it weekly. Weird time to swap...

[pallid willow]

But then royale not for migo?

Right? Wtf

[stable cosmos]

I will never accuse the devs of planning or intelligent thought

[olive sluice]

I expect a Royale tournament soon. And for that they'll limit the antidote and bandages, to make sure only the biggest whales can win it.

[tidal apex]

I fear that they will soon do some changes to royale... Whales might be crying that they are clearly the strongest in there but sometimes do not win 😒

[stable cosmos]

I wish strategy made a real difference...

[tidal apex]

I like how you can actually get really good spot by avoiding fighting, so far I always end up with 0 enemies killed and basically top3 places

[stable cosmos]

Played twice. 3rd twice.

[tidal apex]

Must admit my strategy is really scummy tho... Just stacking up on antidotes and running till everyone dies to poison :p

Also you can get nice rewards just from chests as well if you stack up on a lot of them. It is possible to get way more stuff you gather while playing than you get for actual placement. Need to find biggest backpack tho to be able to gather that much

[stoic elm]

did they nerf the supply drop chest 🤣 i rem getting a lot out of it on day 1, now its just 6 blue crates 😅

you can also take advantage of everyone in there not knowing the 1 safe house 🤣

[tropic echo]

If I remember right this is a big or did I miss something?

[karmic widget]

Normal day 😆

[tiny heath]

Don't be confused.
Apparently it's been made every two weeks

[digital glacier]

Can the devs please go back to kindergarten and paint colors by numbers. And let someone else fix all the stuff that would make artificial intelligence robots want to self destruct from computation overload 🤣

[stable cosmos]

Was azurtane swapping to bi weekly within THIS migo mentioned anywhere? Its been weekly up till today

[proud dagger]

please make this sticker look less like .. this. it's scaring people. >.<

[umbral cliff]

Hi if you have any suggestions or feedback regarding any event or game feature please submit it here https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606

[worldly sable]

I like it 🫣

He likes his meds

[proud dagger]

i can't think of how to use a tweaked out shark sticker 😭 will trade for angry shork pls

[worldly sable]

Needs more stars

✨🤩✨

[merry scroll]

I will let Dev team know those Detailed points and reasons for you guys need Gen 13 and 14.. 🙏

[stable cosmos]

I hope there is an actual resolution for that one. It doesn't affect me but i woukd still argue for them as what has been done is unfair and literally handicapped them

[terse agate]

Thank you

[wide wraith]

Still nothing regarding the 'forgotten' states who missed out on being able to get the general stuff for the skipped migos, to be honest i would rather have had that stuff than the glory points, one full migo and the little migo, thats a lot of CoH, Plasma etc, that the forgotten states are missing out on. Why is that???

its no wonder that the states who had those migos, in general have more P11 - P13s, making a mockery of so-called fairness and Balance that the Devs are so keen on these days, thats before things like skipped hero gens ate even looked at

[cloud ridge]

They need to do the right think and provide what they promised us, there is no other acceptable response from them given how severely we're impacted from not even being able to participate in lots of events

[tardy night]

We had 7-11 already at once. Now they want us to do 12-15 too.

Most of the decent 7-11 got nerfed. Hank was shredded apart, Laura became useless. And they removed ability to get Derek anywhere. Same with Arthur.

[wide wraith]

yeah but we will only get potions and capsules for gen 15

[tardy night]

Which is where I advice my guys to find another game.

Refuse to be used as cannon fodder for older states to feel good about the lack of skill based gaming

[wide wraith]

thats why they hold some states back, cant have newer states beating the older ones where most of the Mods and if we believe the CMs actually play the game, have their accounts

[tardy night]

If they bring AoO here, without means of catching up that are only thrown at us last week of Migo to say they did something, scumplus can shove it

And this is what they're literally doing. One week left of migo. Bringing in an event now will benefit 1% who can throw money

Rest get to be fodder tier for 6 months across events. And f+ will pretend it's not designed to maximize last minute spending.

[wide wraith]

i would rather skip certain events, than spend

[cloud ridge]

So, what's happening with azure heist

To those who could playe before it was removed and now have advantage in migo 👀

[wide wraith]

its every other week now

no one has played it today

[cloud ridge]

I've been told some have apparently and able to claim for migo

[wide wraith]

i would rather have heist than thay stupid KotH

[cloud ridge]

Which is why I'm asking 👀👀👀

[wide wraith]

not today its totally greyed out

that new KotH event is already fixed, to allow certain alliances from certain states to advance, but of course the Devs will think its fair and balanced

[tardy night]

Migo coins?

[wide wraith]

even they wont work

[tardy night]

Would have worked before reset before they woke up I think. Not sure tho.

[wide wraith]

its funny you would think the watching CM would come in on this,

not even then it was greyed out

[ruby mesa]

So generous!…what’s the point of the mail if it contains nothing

[wide wraith]

its so CS can say well you got some compensation

like the Devs and CMs though, totally useless

[cloud ridge]

Don't work

If it worked prior I also don't know as never spent any coins yet or was planning on

But if some have and simply win in migo due to KG oversight then I know who I'll be pestering again 😇

[fallow storm]

Please dont embarrass me

I really don't want SOS to bother itself🤗

[unreal lichen]

Is this means if enamy rally's me they infentry will do +15% damage to me? If yes then WTF😂

[ruby mesa]

What alliance are you in, in 759?

[storm solstice]

it is cutoffed shall be "rally enemy infantry hero damage reduction"

[wide wraith]

R5 of ANA

[ruby mesa]

Ooooo nice! My old account is still somewhat active in that state

I don’t really tend to it anymore

[fringe shadow]

Saberlot, please also include the states who were skipped only gen 13 into the discussion and implement the same solution too. We are experiencing the same issues. When we join PoW, RR or Azurtane, we get demolished by much older states who have well developed gen 13 heroes while we are missing those heroes completely.

[spark kindle]

@merry scroll people that have been waiting for the transfer event to open for the past 3 months understandably want to know if the new koth league/summit will lock them in their alliances and prevent them from transferring. Please make an announcement on the subject.

[mighty gorge]

Even if this did have a value, they must be absolutely moronic if they think this compensates anyone for losing actual troops.

[merry scroll]

No, it wont lock players. The rule should be the same as before, people can leave alliance when one fight is done.

[spark kindle]

Okay, thank you!

[tardy night]

Is merge only gonna be for inactive states or are all gonna get a merge in the state range? it would be helpful to know 👀

[merry scroll]

will do that and discuss with Dev team.

[harsh owl]

It would be helpful to know but I now also see the clear pattern in SOS. We won't be told until it's actually here, and there will be some new surprise like you stacked all those transfer tickets and they're either nowhere near enough, or they've moved to a new system of calculating who can move where and how, rendering them useless and adding to the stockpile of useless items already in our backpacks.

While I have seen an increasing number of people ask for more details around this, FP and by extension the mods do not have any new and meaningful info to share with us.

Using what you taught me yesterday, I've already started the lengthy process of conversations with chiefs and govs and states I might be able to transfer to but this does not answer your question here, and I would like to know the same.

[tardy night]

Preparation means no last minute impulsive spending. Preparation is the Bane of funplus. It cannot be allowed.

[digital glacier]

Please tell this company to go to hell for making yet another time specific event. Which has absolute no need for being time restricted.

Albiet, 4 utc to 10 utc is a nice blackout window for most. But danm. I can't play it right now 🤣

[mighty gorge]

Honestly, the more they do, the more I just think they are a bunch of dumb moronic fools just randomly writing up dumb sh* on a whiteboard and everyone sat around nodding their heads agreeing its a good idea.

If I run my IT operation or design or software development like this, my customer base would be non existent

[mighty gorge]

Why would it matter. What i suspect is that its not for the players, but for FP because of how they've built their code. Its likely for some bizarre coding loop that needs some time to be cleaned up or reconcile data.

[cosmic tulip]

Thanks FP for fixing the TAG bundle!

[digital glacier]

If you loaded the game, you would have noticed a new file download 🙄
Its not code that is some how weaseling it's way into events, it's being updated to be pushed into the event.

If the code is already there. Why would there be downloads for it 🙄

[mighty gorge]

I'm not sure what you mean. The download has nothing to do with the outage window for Survival Royal as the update can take place at any point in the day. I'm referring to back end system process for data reconcilliation within that window for the event, which is generally down to p* poor coding. But I'm just guessing as to why there is an outage window during that time, as it makes no relative sense for us as players.

[stable cosmos]

Well they resolved the trials awards. Shouldn't have been a problem in the first place but resolved them. The festival is running again. Trials is a festival event. Mahjong probably will be too when it returns.

[mortal stirrup]

Did anyone know why we do not have heist today?🤔

[old oasis]

Survivor Royale and A Heist are now bi weekly events.

Give Survivor royale a go it is quick and easy just head for middle away from the gas

[mighty gorge]

I'm sure there is a communication message about it somewhere, maybe on a sticky note on one of the Devs workstations 😆

[old oasis]

From memory was in the broadcast centre a week or two ago.

[mortal stirrup]

Ohhh okay now kinda makes sense , thank you 😊

[old oasis]

A bit like RR and KOTH

[stable cosmos]

Weird timing still. Why do that on the tail end of an event.

[old oasis]

Trying to get on and sorted before mergers and transfers

[stable cosmos]

They could have done it after said mergers and transfers. Not that i liked heist, but it had event currency attached, SR does not

[vivid slate]

Hello all, where Azurtne Heist event is gone ?
Why devs do not inform community about events planning change ?
That would be really a minimum from them to provide clear informations on the schedule and communicate on any changed they make, by removing or adding new events.
It has already spotted a lot of time but we are not seeing this all the time.
Looks like communication is random like Tempest Arms crafting ... 😬😅

[vapid forum]

I don't know if it was announced or not, but the heist is not gone. It's every 2 weeks now

[knotty cosmos]

They did communicate though.

[vapid forum]

Switching with Survival Royale

[vivid slate]

Oh I haven't seen that ... but why not sending communication in game through mail as they sometimes do

[storm solstice]

They use the broadcast centre "now" to share updates. You get a lot infos there.

[vivid slate]

Yeah need to check that more often, I barely look over there

[hoary flint]

They have a copy paste mod now too that post the info from broadcast center here #🗣︱social_media_announcements

[mighty gorge]

I think the vast majority of people overlook it. I also think the problem is, there is a mixture of official announcements and the Dev Feedback, and then community updates, so its a bit all over the place and difficult to decipher at times. The announcements are generally the same limited information updates they post here in discord. The areas also use this horrible light font also, which is hardly readable. God help those who need accessibility features.

Personally, its need structuring better, with a section purely dedicated to release/patch notes

and then official announcements around changes

They have developer feedback in the announcements, but then a developer feedback section, and then a version section, that includes hero guides, content and mini games, rather than just patch and release details, which is utterly mind numbing.

[digital glacier]

216 duty coins for network login issue
216 duty tokens = 216000 duty
T11 troops = 4.55 duty
216000 ÷ 4.55 = 47,472 t11 recoverable troops
70% enlistment after full hospital
47472 ÷ 70% = 67,817 troops more than hospital capacity
Hospital capacity 800,000
So this only fixed the issue if you have 867,817 troops and we're burned only 1 time 🙄

I have 4,829,754 enlistment 🙄 (that is after I have recovered some to be able to participate in events)
This does not fix the dead troops that are permanently gone after the revivable troops from vouchers
In my particular instance currently it is at least 206,989 t11 dead gone disappeared ain't never coming back.

[mighty gorge]

One of my alliance members got zeroed and had all his RSS taken, how does this even cover that?

[digital glacier]

They can come to our backpack to take away gift code rewards. How about go into my enlistment and recover all my troops for me 🙄

[hoary flint]

[digital glacier]

Wtf 13722 🙄

[hoary flint]

I was already low on rss so thats not a problem

[mighty gorge]

But the game isn't just you, he lost billions because he wasn't online.

[digital glacier]

Wow. Just effin wow.

[hoary flint]

When i got zeroed i send screenshot of my enlistment to CS maybe thats why they gave me 13k

I had the same login issues

Maybe try to contact CS again and ask them what about the losses of resources is that gonna be recovered too?

[digital glacier]

First report of lost troops 🤣

[digital glacier]

Clearly I burn pretty easy once my hospital is full of infantry

[hoary flint]

Everyone burns easy when they run out of inf

[woven spire]

Haha i always said for f2p or mid spenders. Evwen you defend

Imo its still a lose

I mean 600k dead not sure how you can call that a defense😂

[digital glacier]

I still had 1m infantry in enlist from prior svs because recovery rate so slow and there was some login issues but nothing like the recent one where it effected tons of players.

Considering I defended 2 hits and burned on the third. Not to shabby for someone who has a weak settlement.

[hoary flint]

I started with 5,73 mil troops and ended with 67k troops left attacked me 34 times 😅

[digital glacier]

At least they left you with enough to do intel 🤣

[hoary flint]

True

Me sends 1 march out go to next intel want to send out another one oh wait i have no troops for that

Duty rate is a pain i agree 100%

[woven spire]

They broke enlist

I wont even get all out in 4 months this speed

[lean leaf]

Hows this ridiculous overpriced crap is in migo shop, but no red crystals

[vale yoke]

I didn't even have any problems, so this made me giggle. I'm gonna save them up.

[mighty gorge]

I'm not sure how they decided. I had 2.5 hours of it, kicked out, lag, unable to do anything, unable to login when kicked out.

[lean leaf]

I couldn’t log in for 2 hours, missed last 20 mins of prep stage, 1h bbq and half stage 1 of svs buildings fighting and i can’t find any mail like that 🤣

[mighty gorge]

I didn't get jack.

[woven spire]

Lost top 1

Nice compesation

Now can heal 2mil out enlist aswell

Cause they broke duty rate since they give free coins

Buybuy

[vale yoke]

I didn't log in until about two hours after the issue presented, so I still had my flare up and was fine. I logged in just in time to watch a few of my team burn 🥹

[lean leaf]

Duty rate always was broken as it didn’t got adjusted when t11 and t12 troops launched

[woven spire]

Ye but now its even more broken

It doesnt move lol

[lean leaf]

Like it moved before 🙄🤣

[mighty gorge]

Liannin, when's your chefs pantry interview with nonimammimimimi?

or dogs breakfast, whatever its called

[woven spire]

Normally it had like a short time period or doing dailys which gave alot to revive at once

Now it just stopped lmao

I dont think i can heal enlist even in 3 svs

I do like 100k a week lmao

GM: "totally normal!!!"

[lean leaf]

Everything is normal and all bugs are features in this game

[vale yoke]

Still waiting... And waiting .. Saber is also following up because he's bestie.
My schedule just got really rough because my boss is out with COVID, so now four of us supervisors are all working together to imitate one functional manager.
Its the retail version of 'three raccoons in an overcoat'.

[tidal apex]

It takes a minute to end up with full hospital and enlistment. Afterwards you need 3-4 months to clear that away. Totally normal, fair and balanced as everything here

[lean leaf]

It lags af or you can’t participate in events ? THATS HOW IT SHOULD BE!!!

[woven spire]

Yep exactly lol

Totally out out of balance

1 rally is like 130k wounded if lost

Even the alliance heals instant. You just heal a little troops at once thst it doesnt matter lol

Its all out of balance and makes no sense

[mighty gorge]

I saw a few others post in here over the last days that they've been invited also. Is it a group thing, or one to one?

[woven spire]

But feedback

[woven spire]

These gear skill thingys should be easier accesable and cheaper. Cause chance you get something good is lower then winning the lottery

Or let us recycle 2 for 1 or something

Cause this is bs. If you gamble make it cheaper

[vale yoke]

I've been waiting since 5 September for a response, when I first sent Nanami a Discord DM about it per the instructions.

[tidal apex]

@vale yoke whenever that talk happens please let them know what issues players are angry about. Maybe they will listen... A ti y little bit

[woven spire]

She ever respond?😂

[tidal apex]

You can recycle actually

[woven spire]

Not the skill token

[mighty gorge]

Thats lame, and unprofessional.

[woven spire]

If you recycle you dont get the skill token back

[vale yoke]

I have a whole list, Shirosei, and I'm constantly adding to it based on what is happening here and in other player discords

[woven spire]

Those things are either 50€ a month for 1 or all packs

[mighty gorge]

I think if she did that, the session would run solidly for about 14 days

[vale yoke]

I've even collated the feedback into their preferred format into a PDF file, as well.

[tidal apex]

Oh skill yeah, that one is just gone 😒

[vale yoke]

Which I need to find the time to update, actually, so my next day off will be spent... Working...

[tidal apex]

Tell then how we love new tempest arms and the fact that everything in there is random. Nothing beats spending 50$ orbsaving for a month only to end up with +10% attack skill or smthg :p

[stable cosmos]

F tempest arms. F it with a red hot rusty piece of rebar

[vale yoke]

Here's the list:

• Account Bans
• Migration
• Marketing/Advertising
• Monetary v Time Investment
• Testing & Deployment
• Communications
• Special Events/Festivals
• Recurring Events
• Compensation
• New Heroes/Features
• Alliance Duels
• Event/Item stores
• World Events
• Intel Updates
• Buildings & Functions
• Power Creep/Gap
• Standard Game Features

Some things in it will need updating as they have been addressed but may still have issues, such as Duels

[stable cosmos]

Patch notes. Its kinda comms but a different sort

[mighty gorge]

So its a small list. I could probably triple that.

[vale yoke]

But yeah. There it is.

[woven spire]

Thanks for your 185€

[mighty gorge]

Seriously, this tells me nothing.

[vale yoke]

Those are just the topics. Lol not the actual feedback within them.

[stable cosmos]

Does that mean they've increased them again?

[woven spire]

Huh irs over 180 now?

[mighty gorge]

Sorry, wasnt' a criticism, just my sarcasm aimed towards FP

[woven spire]

Who asked for this😂

[tidal apex]

To make duels less painfull they really should add rewards for taking part in event, same as in SvS war stage for example... It is just dumb that all we are fighting for are alliance migo points and no rewards whatsoever besides that

[stable cosmos]

Whales with maxed cap. Not the 1st time

[mighty gorge]

I meant the comms

[woven spire]

Oh

[vale yoke]

We both know it would have to be either multiple chats or one big one. I suspect they don't want to talk to me, but can't figure out why

[woven spire]

Not like it will change everything. Just keep fighting eachother lmao

[vale yoke]

Saber knows I'm a nice lady

[woven spire]

Cause i wont make 180 anyway😂

Sometimes i think. Why fight the other one with a wallet if you can just fight with a bit of skill cause higher it the other will buy all anyway. Like you will

[stable cosmos]

Stil 150% on mine

[woven spire]

So what is your logic here

[stable cosmos]

I never get picked. Probably never will. I most likely come across combative and abrasive when i respond to their feedback.

[vale yoke]

This is the first time they've picked me, and I thought I was being trolled.

[mighty gorge]

They would never pick me either, I'm full of truth, logic, sense and bluntness. Plus, I would probably end up calling them something I may later regret 😆

[stable cosmos]

Given its been over a month and nothing has happened maybe you are being trolled...

[mighty gorge]

Well, there is a lot to be said for the fact this was September, and we are almost in November

[stable cosmos]

Does account bans take in actions around harrassment or just their random policy on bans?

[carmine summit]

Lian don't forget them billion bios u promised to get me🤔🤔

[stable cosmos]

Cos so far from what I've seen in game harrassment is super poorly handled

[hoary flint]

[vale yoke]

But, tbh, a smart company would talk to many of us, if the feedback from each Camp Cafe mini-phase was well worded and productive.
Things which bother me are:

• there is no indication this was a multi-phase event which would span months
• there is no clear communication from the CM named, to the point that another CM is following up on it
• there's not even an update which says, "Hey Chief, thanks for your patience while we collect more feedback. We will keep you updated on any changes or plans for this event as we continue. We appreciate your support of State of Survival, Chief!"

[vale yoke]

billions. You sure it wasn't bullion? Like soup?

[stable cosmos]

Nobody ever accused fup of being smart either

[carmine summit]

Umm yeah pretty sure billion as in dough🤣🤣

[tidal apex]

Its nice and all that they decided to talk to players but it should not be a special one time thing but something like monthly occurence where they come to discord and answer some of the most frequently asked questions/concerns. Or at least even if they do not show in person they post answers to questions.

Our most upvoted feedbacks should not be things that we just send into black hole to never see it again but should be answered. Even if it would just be short
-We are working on that
-It will be done in near future
-This one is impossible and will never happen, give up
-We will seriously consider this one

[stable cosmos]

I've been collecting beef stock. Gonna be a bullionaire

[mighty gorge]

or, Sorry, its been cancelled. I'll look in my diary and let you know when I'm available. Right now I'm fully booked up into mid 2024

[vale yoke]

I'll just make you some dough. Pizza, bread, pastry...

[carmine summit]

As long as it's a billion whom am I to complain

[stable cosmos]

I wouldn't expect the devs in discord. Wouldn't work tbh. But they could at least filter back our feedback. No is an answer. Its not a nice answer but at least its solid

[vale yoke]

I would accept, "due to the excitement about the event, we have had problems with scheduling. If you don't wish to wait, please communicate with CM Nanami or CM Saberlot, so we can ensure your important feedback is still heard by us. Thanks, Chief! From, the State of Survival Team"

[carmine summit]

When pigs fly

That sounds to honest

[stable cosmos]

Or, they picked you cos they liked the feedback but once nanami found out it was you-you it went into the too hard basket

[vale yoke]

Lol

That's what I'm worried about

[stable cosmos]

Saberlot was here earlier. I was on too late. Must remember to ask next time...

[vale yoke]

Ngl I really am here like, "is it the Rita Skeeter-ness? Is it PUC? They don't like my feedback novellas? Someone higher up said " oh God no, why, no."?"

[carmine summit]

Just wear your hip waders to the meeting... better safe than sry

[stable cosmos]

Thing is if they picked you it means they recognise that what you said has merit. The package it comes in shouldn't matter

[vale yoke]

Agreed. They know I'm gonna write about it, they know I'm not going to address "what would make me spend," but that most of the things will be what they don't want to hear.

[stable cosmos]

I do so wish i could get my thoughts into trials. I enjoy that type of game and trials has missed the mark all over the place

[vale yoke]

Lemme check my notes, Cyan, but because it's not a standard event (in that it repeats), I could add stuff. I'm still doing it

[mighty gorge]

I actually think the fact that feedback exists within discord itself is a problem. I'm old skool, I come from a world of forums, and bulletin boards etc. where things appear as structured lists. The problem with discord is that everything posted is a point in time post, and by that I mean that once the feedback entry has been made unless you are looking in that channel at the time, its likely to get missed. What then happens is:

• Another set of feedback is made, thus pushing the prior one up the stack. This then consistently happens, and many people dont' even get to see that there was feedback in the first place because lets face it, you look in a channel, and very few of us would sit and scroll back through reams of them.
• The same feedback albeit slightly differently is then posted again, by another mod or person, but although the wording and feedback is different, it then receives another point in time set of upvotes.

Repeat this same cycle over and over, and its no wonder things don't get captured properly. The reverse is also true, look at the biocap debacle, that feedback got posted hundreds if not thousands of times, and somehow some idiot counted it as 40,000 votes, when it was clearly closer to 5000.

[stable cosmos]

Love me some hamfire macguyvers, great fun

[stable cosmos]

Oh i wanna full bore change it, making it a little easier, more varied and genuinely more fun

[vale yoke]

I've got my notes open, just to put that out there

[stable cosmos]

Imo every weapon should be usable from the start and nothing should be required to win. I'd hate to type up everything knowing its off to a black hole

[vale yoke]

You can DM if you want, Cyan. Up to you, no pressure.

[stable cosmos]

I need to get it out of my head. May fire up something with a keyboard this weekend

[vale yoke]

Any time is a good time. My DMs are always open if you don't want to post into the void.

[stable cosmos]

I'd prefer mahjong left the game altogether, but theres a way to allow people to complete level 2 but maintain a reason for spenders to exist and play there as well which is, honestly a little evil and i feel bad coming up with it

[tidal apex]

You mean behemoth trials? They made it in terrible way here... Only one set of skills is basically viable so on higher difficulty level there is no choice, you simply reset till you manage to gather all "needed" perks or winning is impossible :/ 0 build diversity

[stable cosmos]

Yep. They can tweak a few minor things and add some stuff and its instantly a fairer game mode with more options. The bosses not being the flash will help

[tidal apex]

I still play behemoth trials because of how rare behemoth related rewards are but it is more of a chore than enjoyment :/ You did not get hp regen? Restart. No movement speed? Restart. Oh first weapons are some uselles rockets or napalm thing? Restart etc. :S

First changes it needs is what you mentioned, making bosses not be as fast as flash or making tanking bosses a viable option

[mighty gorge]

I did two levels today, and then lost interest. The problem is, I dont' want to spend hours and hours sat in game. I want to spent 30 minutes at most, then come back later, or not at all until the next day. Right now, I feel like I'm forced to login and do 100 things every day.

[haughty tundra]

Hello

During the svs a lot of p9 and less like me were violently burned by p13. And we had a lot of soldiers die for 0 points. They had nothing to die for. Wouldn't it be better if they gave us points if someone more than 3 levels apart attacks us or if that reduces us to 10 percent troop losses?

Because it's unfair for us

[tidal apex]

That is another problem^
Strange preconception that every new feature they release need its own new timeconsuming event. All those events pile up way faster than we are done needing to do them unless of course we spend 2000 or 5000$ to max on feature day 1 and ignore playing the game entirely...

The only event I dont really need to do is Horde, everything else gives materials that I really need. I like new survival event but at the same time I am almost sure it will change from liking it to hating a year down the line like it did with AH :p

[mighty gorge]

At one point I had several accounts, now I just focus on two, and even then my second account is getting neglected more and more. I just can't keep up with it. Couple that with all the insanely long events now that happen every week. It was great when we had lockdown or I could spend all day every day in game, but like most people most time they get to do anything is during work breaks, or late evening after they've come home from work or even after that if they have a family and need to put their kids to bed first before they can relax. Its seems FP have a very extreme blinkered view of society.

[tidal apex]

Yup, they totally forgot it is just a mobile game. We want to hop in for few minutes here and there when we have a little bit of free tine and maybe do one or two longer events in a week. Not have 3h of things to do every single day

[woven spire]

Just prepare for horde event

[vale yoke]

I still have the same three accounts, still run them all as much as I did, still R5 on one of them, not spending a single penny, and I work more than I used to.
Am tired. Very tired.

Thank God for schedules

And alarms

And Google notifications

[spare summit]

me ? just 1 account ... and already feeling the burn 😂

[hollow kelp]

Hello! Is this week last of alliance duel?

[river schooner]

As I saw it will be on Oct 26 and Nov 2

[hollow kelp]

But it was said 8 matches in announcement

This is 8th match no?

[river schooner]

I'm not sure I was referring to this one reply to one player from the GM #alliance-duels message

[hollow kelp]

Oh I see.

Can we confirm when is the last duel date so we can use all our coins for bidding or not?👀

[river schooner]

I guess our lmods asked devs already😅 I will double ask them!

[hollow kelp]

Thank you☺️

[faint flint]

Big debate in alliance duels section. Mods there think it’s 8. Game announcement at start of duels said it was a season off 8, but people have asked GMs and they all say it’s 9

I do have 1 question regarding KOTH. There is points for it in migo but do you get them from either KOTH event running Sunday.

But I don’t trust devs anyway. Would not be surprised if they run a 9 round event in a 8 round season.

[tame lintel]

There's only 1 koth event. They just made legion 1 part of a tier system

I still don't see this?? Anyone does??

[cosmic tulip]

[stone torrent]

I don't either

[dusty hull]

I don't see it yet

[normal peak]

Violently?

[haughty tundra]

Yes with a lot of speed UP that we didn't have time to dodge

This jester had to pay 20€ for speed UP to attack me twice... So I'm only p9

[normal peak]

Bubbles work faster

[tame lintel]

Gasoline is freaking awesome!!!

[haughty tundra]

I was in the June rally in the capital

[normal peak]

Then it’s strategy to burn joiners..what’s the issue

[tame lintel]

Keep main heros home.

[kindred bough]

Many of us are old school too me included so I totally agree with you on some points.
However technology happens.. new things happen..and we have to adapt.

We have a team for feedback alone we look for feedback and we collect it, true time stamp may effect in some occasions or in a busy channel when new event is out or a bug/feature is out too 🫣😂 but it doesn't mean the feedback is lost, beacuse different players have different opinions and different suggestions and some maybe have opposite opinions
But I assure you we all are players and we all are affected as well and we want change !

Maybe our system is not the best in but we always try to adjust things, and please if you have a new way that can take the feedback or a way that may overall help feel free to suggest it to our Dlomds and if it fits and can be implemented they will do their best to make it happen.
You can open a ticket in https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1154385061978841148
Or feel free to send a dm one of the DLMOD's,
DLMOD.The Secret Oracle,
DLMOD.Death Breather,
DLMOD.Jemma the Joyous,
DLMOD.Purifier of Evil.

Mistakes happens, miss counting happens, busy life happens, other responsibilities too. So there is no need to insulat anyone or calling them anything life is hard enough on everyone and since you old school know that too 🙏🏻
I really appreciate how you covered the feedback points this way and hope we can make it better in the future

[tame lintel]

Don't expect to attack something with nothing coming back at ya

[haughty tundra]

The worst he attacked me with his main heroes

[tame lintel]

So now you complain he's smart?

😅

[faint flint]

Legion 1 plays tier matches. Legion 2 plays regular KOTH. Problem with the tier system is you are not matched by times. As your opponents are already chosen they may all pick 2utc where you chose 14utc. So you will probably fight at 2 utc then

[haughty tundra]

He is especially weak at attacking p9s when he was their best player in their state. I will be his mirror, I break when I see his face

[haughty tundra]

It's just that I definitely lost hundreds of thousands of troops for 0 points in the stupid svs!

[tame lintel]

Points. Are not what whales are after

They want wins

Silly

State 530. Only p9
Be better f2p😅

[haughty tundra]

They should have given points when the whales attack like weak players with HQ of more than 3 difference. It's the same kind of guy who attacks plasma 4 to empty the troops for fun

[tame lintel]

Perception is everything

[haughty tundra]

At least I'm not a big pigeon who ruins myself for a game that will win you nothing in your life.

[tame lintel]

Not for fun. For a teammate. Most of the time

[unreal lichen]

What happen to P9s?

[tame lintel]

Do you think that about professional sports?? That's their hobby

[haughty tundra]

A p13 attack a p9 in svs. WE won 0 point. Problème we loose definitively troop. WE need have points if WE loose troop.

[tame lintel]

Your cute

[unreal lichen]

But you get a personal kill

[normal peak]

I burn everything…doesn’t matter size of house..I find stronger players will rein weaker ones..once they do you attack the strong..it’s strategy..plus if you were attacked being a joiner..instead of wall breakers those are most effective tactics when trying to weaken another rally or garrison

[tame lintel]

"Points, points points🤣🤣🤣

[cosmic tulip]

Magik, I understand it can be very distressing but these are strategies and there are some strategies you can use to combat these situation. It’s also used to ensure you get a good rank and there are some who just enjoy it.
Been on both sides of the fence and there are ways you can alleviate it and FP has recently inputted different things in game to lessen the impact. Not amazing… but every little helps.

[tame lintel]

Your goals are wrong if thats your desire...points🙄

Know your role

[haughty tundra]

That I understand. But just when it's that, they might as well give us the points for the svs.

[normal peak]

She is a murderer..don’t listen to her

[cosmic tulip]

Shhhh nobody knows this.

[normal peak]

[haughty tundra]

There was a bug on the joiners on the attacks it had put 1 troop to the one who wanted to help me

[stray acorn]

unfortunately, it's not points, they wants kill points to show off

i mean, during alliance duel u won't get any points zeroing people but still they do that

becuz they could

as simple as that

many loves to prove that I'M STRONGER THAN U

[haughty tundra]

I totally agree with you. But why give points for 3 levels of difference when you have p13 which attacks small plasmas and f2p to gain kill points and the other has Nothing ?

[stray acorn]

[tame lintel]

Or because a teammate that's a p10 or 11 or 12 couldn't beat. They ask a lead to clear tje way.
Perception differs

[stray acorn]

Devs

[normal peak]

Not the case..im weak and do it because if I didn’t burn settlements the game would be super boring

[tame lintel]

Your seriously asking for hand me out points for losing. It's freaking HILARIOUS 🤣🤣🤣

[haughty tundra]

We should not limit HQ to 3 differences if they have the right to zero small players. Because only they win.

[cosmic tulip]

We can test this Friday if you like? But reinforcement capacity has been increased along with settlement attack/ defence. You have the following options, ensure your barricade is up to date, upgrade relevant buildings, bubble, port or a stronger player reinforces you.

[haughty tundra]

My recruiting office is still far from empty

[normal peak]

Stronger walls aren’t going to stop monsters with over 1000 attack now

[stray acorn]

zeoring people will make leave and it'll also make game more boring

[tame lintel]

Are you alone in your alliance?

[normal peak]

Zeroing during svs is not really zeroing

I basically zero myself every svs until I’m attacking with just riders

And that’s basically the first hour of svs

[cosmic tulip]

It’s funny, I have a player who burnt a paper P10 being a P4 but because the player was plus 3 he didn’t get points or RRS 😂

[stray acorn]

emptying enlistment is a pain the stars, some prefere to quit

[normal peak]

Then they are just lazy

[tame lintel]

Some are lazy, needy, entitled brats😅

Like asking for points for losing

[haughty tundra]

Except that it deprives the little ones of playing because they have nothing left and they have won 0 points. The thing I say is that you shouldn't limit the gap to 3 levels to get points. Because it’s unfair for f2p

[normal peak]

I like @tame lintel style

[normal peak]

The little ones can’t really play anymore when states only want monsters in their rallies

[haughty tundra]

When you have half-dead states like ours, every member is important.

[tame lintel]

What do you get from points?

[haughty tundra]

We were only 80 active last time

[tame lintel]

In svs

[normal peak]

I agree but facts are facts

[stray acorn]

not my division, u can make all the jokes u want from this matter but remember also at a time, some may also make jokes about us and our troops, we don't know what Devs dreams about new shiny thingy is game, a time may come that we can't even play becuz of a new super expensive thing

[tame lintel]

You won't rank by losing

[normal peak]

Svs is different monster of event

[cosmic tulip]

Plus it 10% loss compared to KE

[haughty tundra]

It is above all for the good of all. If you lose troops without having points in svs it's not fun. If you limit hq3+ for resources, you might as well put 100 percent troops back if there is

[normal peak]

And @haughty tundra you can join Jun and Star rallies because they are absolute beasts

[haughty tundra]

3 HQ and more difference

[tame lintel]

Anyone have screenshot of reward differences between rank 1000 and rank 995??

[normal peak]

My state has zero KE so I do all killing during svs

[haughty tundra]

That's how their best in the state attacked me.

[tame lintel]

Get your points🤣🤣

[haughty tundra]

I always finish top 150 jester

[tame lintel]

Except ke is during cap not svs

[normal peak]

It’s better to burn other state down then your own

[tame lintel]

And points gained from being zeroed would make you what??

Rank 112?

[normal peak]

Yeah I barely do cap..but rewards for KE are trash anyway

[cosmic tulip]

What they need to look at is the healing time for T12’s… ugh only finished healing mine from last SVS.

[haughty tundra]

Fortunately you don't look at the ke of 530. It's the most active event in the state

[tame lintel]

Yup. Used to be better. Used to be 50k bio. Wasn't it?

[normal peak]

Think so..now it’s 20k…losses don’t make it worth it

[haughty tundra]

Man, you're still a pigeon who spends hundreds of thousands of euros in the game. If your pride is in burning small HQs, it's because you have nothing in your head.

[cosmic tulip]

🤨really. I must be in a different state

[haughty tundra]

We have to bubble every time

[tame lintel]

Who said that's my pride. I'm trying to tell you. It's a side thought for whales. And the points you would gain from it...if it was active. Wouldn't do nothing for you

[normal peak]

@haughty tundra I usually burn smaller accounts so my smaller players can eat their rss..it’s a win for my smaller players

They need the rss not me

[haughty tundra]

Whales can attack. The problem is that the f2p will never have points if the ksos like this guy attack only for the stats

[cosmic tulip]

Which magik you also benefited from the above ^^

[tame lintel]

WTF IS POINTS DO FOR YOU

[normal peak]

I bet he has but he forgets that

[haughty tundra]

That I agree.

[normal peak]

So then what’s makes that better then you being attacked during a rally

[haughty tundra]

In any case the game will do nothing. Because they prefer to listen to the whales who finance their accommodation in Dubai

[tame lintel]

Or because it's a bad idea😅

[cosmic tulip]

Sorry magik things go down hill… it’s a fact of life and the direction of the game…

Perhaps we can talk about how to boost your settlement more.

To defend off these things

Don’t blame the whales. They help the state in so many ways

[haughty tundra]

It was the best of their state who did it. I couldn't even dodge he used 20€ of speed UP. Just when this is it the state must show solidarity and strengthen the joiners.

[tame lintel]

Have you bought every defense skin in the skin store. You should be maxed defense skin by now. In that state. Only 200 skin tickets

[haughty tundra]

I only blame the game

[tame lintel]

Not yourself. Of course😅

[haughty tundra]

I know. Now seeing the differences as the statue island is getting worse and worse.

[faint flint]

In SvS always bubble.

[tame lintel]

Statues crud. = worst addition to the game. I'll agree to that

[cosmic tulip]

And endless too

Every week something new to add

Need an island off an island soon

[haughty tundra]

Each member is important. We are not in a state like 547 or 688 which has 200 active people at each CC. We barely fill an alliance in the svs here.

With the state merge it will surely be better

[cosmic tulip]

Magik. In 2-3 weeks things will change and your painting a very bad picture of our state right now

[faint flint]

I can see state merge will not effect leading states. They will merge the states that players left last transfer. Or other weak ones

[haughty tundra]

If we merge with 521 I sign.

[tame lintel]

But as a company. Understandable.
If all your profit customers are sitting idol. With nothing to buy. It's not good.

That's why this game will never stop its path of extreme spending. Because as much as 5-20k is alot to some people. It's pocket change to others

[wind heath]

Are your guys state having no heist too today??

[faint flint]

Heist is now every 2 weeks

[tame lintel]

I think its rotated bi-weekly now with something

Maybe royale?

[haughty tundra]

So much the better

1 royal week. 1 week Heist

[blissful merlin]

It is now every other week, with Survivor Royale

[tame lintel]

I hate mother weeks. Too many spankings...

[wind heath]

Umm okey dokey thanks a lot guyss

[unreal lichen]

Well said fellow moose🍻

[blissful merlin]

I apparently can not type today

[haughty tundra]

A question

Will we know which state we are merging with before or after the state transfer?

[haughty tundra]

That's why. But the game has to listen to us.

[tame lintel]

Saberlot is part of dev team...or close too..

Closest we will get. Atleast

[haughty tundra]

I Hope

I also hope that the state transfer will not be in the middle of svs week. But a throwdown week

[tame lintel]

State transfer should be abolished

[worldly sable]

I like transfers

😂🫣

Leading state should be abolished 🌚

[spice jungle]

Not enough spending and equipment, add tempest arms to the plane/helicopter and behemoths and chief gear too

[haughty tundra]

No. You just need X2 the price to go to the top 10 state and divide by two to go to the 10 least active

The last state transfer was the same price to reach 291 as state 6

(Who was top 2 state and low 2)

[tame lintel]

No.

Giving idiots free range is always bad

Consequences to every action

Yes may be good for a few

[spice jungle]

honestly, just let them have free range, if vvv wants to play against val everytime in reservoir and svs let them 😂

[tame lintel]

For tje game in entirety

It is bad

[haughty tundra]

But that kill a lot of state

[tame lintel]

Like I said. Good for few. Bad for most

[spice jungle]

if your state depends on having that one or two whales staying, it's going to die anyway

[tame lintel]

It also raises the spending ceiling

[spice jungle]

they can leave to a state with no whale and your state still dies

[haughty tundra]

The problem is that VVV and other alliances of this kind take the whales of other states for themselves.

[tame lintel]

Every person has a choice. Noone "takes" me

[spice jungle]

or they just don't feel like playing anymore if they would be leaving to go to vvv or val and can't leave

either way your state dies

[tame lintel]

It all comes down to goals. Imo

If you have very competitive goals. Transfer is for you

[spice jungle]

It's ok to lose svs, just ask my state, we always lose 😂

[worldly sable]

Lol I asked for this

People zeroed their states to bring people in, how is that better 😂

[tame lintel]

I have played these games before. Like many. And have seen the consequences.. I refuse to partake in the ultimate demise of the game I enjoy

As tje devs need more than just tje big spenders

50000 people buy 5$ packs is more money than 100 people 100$ packs

[spice jungle]

you would think so, but those 100 people buy $20000 packs a month

[tame lintel]

Some. I know some that load 1 million diamonds/biweekly

[haughty tundra]

At 20k dollars, they can offer me a nice trip

[spice jungle]

issue is more that with the content the way it is, spending 5-200 dollars a week is basically nothing

[tame lintel]

It still gets lead to the same points though. These games. No more f2p. Just whales

Wallet wars

[spice jungle]

so they end up having to depend on the huge krakens because nobody will feel like doing the small spending since it basically makes no difference as far as how much they contribute once they get past the getting 13 plasma

[haughty tundra]

Now if you spend $500 a month you are weak. You need at least $5000

[haughty tundra]

To reassure you I won the last svs prep stage. And I'm f2p. But I saved 5 months to play it.

[spice jungle]

We lose both prep and war stage

[steel musk]

5k? no one spend like that

[cosmic tulip]

If a whale leaves to a super state, it only adds pressure to the remaining whales / mid spenders to increase there spending to reduce the gap to remain competitive.
I can understand super states logic as it the nature of the game time since the behemoth. But both state transfer and merges have there pluses and minuses.

[spice jungle]

you needed over 5k just to max angelica

[haughty tundra]

Win both. Because teamwork.

[cosmic tulip]

And the rest to unlock the bundles 😂

[tame lintel]

🤣🤣

[steel musk]

just if was without cheating

[spice jungle]

yeah sure teamwork, except we keep facing states where the top alliance has 10+ rally leaders who are each stronger than our strongest rally leader in the state lmao

[tardy night]

You are clearly not the one doing the spending if you think teamwork matters in this game

[spice jungle]

and then we can't kick them out because all their behemoths are gold and all their joiners are 12-13 plasma while we still have 10s

[storm quiver]

Kinda wild they didn't even know they sent 3% rally attack application wings out to thousands of players for free and had no idea.

[tame lintel]

It does very much.

[haughty tundra]

A month ago we played state 101. Which had two top100 alliances. Our best was far behind. And we won because we played as a team together

[worldly sable]

10k

[cosmic tulip]

I hear you on this, lucky for us the new matching pool decreased our chances of meeting DIE in every event 😅

[spice jungle]

even if we played as a team together our rallies only did 30% dmg, if even that much

[tardy night]

Yea. Get a team of 10 p5s. Let's see what they can do against 2 p13

[steel musk]

It's better if they donate it to me instead waste it in game

[tame lintel]

It's about 2k/week needed to maintain "whale status" today

[haughty tundra]

If two alliances don't get along and our super alliance works next. It’s teamwork

[spice jungle]

there's just a limit to teamwork

[storm quiver]

I dropped 20k during hopefest and I'm still behind. I decided to go mostly F2P after that

Not worth it

[spice jungle]

and that limit is, if your strongest in the state double rally and it wouldn't kick them out, it's useless

[tame lintel]

Ya that was the start of a new crazy

I remember us freaking out about 25k for p5

[spice jungle]

can't even hit their settlements as a strategy because you'll only do 10k wounded to them

[tame lintel]

It just gets higher

[storm quiver]

The new statues in your island will cost you another 20-30k

[tardy night]

Prolly lesser after tempest arms

[storm quiver]

If you want to compete with other rally leads

[tame lintel]

Easy. "If your lucky"

😅🤣

[spice jungle]

yea maybe 0 damage if they have the ones where it deals damage immediately when the battle starts

[tame lintel]

This is main reason I slowed down.

Used to buy stats

Now we buy chances

[storm quiver]

It's turned more into a gambling game. You don't know what you'll get for your money and it's awful

At least in the past there was a price tag for items

[tame lintel]

Yup

[steel musk]

i still don't think anyone would spend 5k in 1 month every month 🤔

[haughty tundra]

@tardy night Many states prefer to play in their own alliance for MIGO. If you have great alliances like VVV everything will be fine. But otherwise if you have two alliances who want the governor you will not be United

[tame lintel]

I can prove ya wrong in 3 seconds

[storm quiver]

Guy in my server was spending 2,000 a day for months

[spice jungle]

there's a bunch of those, even if you think their spending is illegitimate somehow

[steel musk]

prove 👀

[cosmic tulip]

It also undermines all the investment you’ve put in prior TA if your just “unlucky”

[tardy night]

There's about 5 of them right above ya lol

[tame lintel]

This button exists 😉

[steel musk]

It say they got bundle 100$ but did they really got it for 100$?

[tame lintel]

People buy 1 mill diamonds

[spice jungle]

probably cheaper

[storm quiver]

He went to 1.2b bp during P3 😆

[haughty tundra]

Some even have millions of diamonds

[steel musk]

they could take it from discord cheaper

[tame lintel]

Meaning they buy more silly boy

🤣🤣

[spice jungle]

if they get it from the official russian partner it's like 25% off

[tame lintel]

Do you think they spend less??

[storm quiver]

Wtf, I want 25% off 😆

[tame lintel]

🤣🤣

[spice jungle]

I think a lot of it is actually just money laundering

[tame lintel]

They still spend what they want. Just at cheaper rate