spoiler-chat

[forest kiln]

Exactly

[solid otter]

I deadass just mine out Albrecht's prospect bcs almost no enemies ever spawn, if any

[undone lodge]

That and the mineral spawns on Deimos are weird

Was grinding for a specific one and got like, three inaccesible ones in a row 😭

[hearty pendant]

true
sometimes they're completely inaccessible or the nodes are hidden in terrain

[solid otter]

I got like

[forest kiln]

I don't mind mining at all but the drop rates just make me wanna km s

[solid otter]

16 namalon once

In one vein????

Maybe the resource booster.... helped

[dense cosmos]

UGHHHHHH MY HEART. ||ADISSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!|| and ||mom doing that to us?!|| WILD!!! Peak update

[night grail]

These are not the same face

[median edge]

I noticed this too I was confused if it's my operator or yet another AU

[hearty pendant]

yet another?

[median edge]

Drifter

[hearty pendant]

oh, just thought you meant more than them ig

[median edge]

Well I mean theres visually Indifference™️ is kinda another version too but sorry for the confusion

[night grail]

I wouldn't even say the Indifference is "kinda another version"

It just copies people

[median edge]

True I just meant visually to keep track of I mean

[tight pagoda]

Probably 'cutscene + captura+ character customization' assets are different to gameplay assets

[median edge]

I want to write essays about this game 😭 I think about my tenno alot lol

[zenith jacinth]

I bet your favorite color is... orange

[median edge]

You should see my irl stuff too 😭💙 it's blue all the way down babey!!

[zenith jacinth]

I have. One. Purple shirt.

You terrify me

[median edge]

I have OCD so I become v obsessively into things lol I have blue hair irl and have since early hs, blue phone, blue everything if I get to pick the color. My goal is to be like the green lady from new York one day but with blue lol

Look how Happy she is 😊💓💓💓

Anyways time to brave the old peace with my blorbos 💙

[undone lodge]

Are you a percy jackson fan by chance

[floral hawk]

why is my friend's womb glowing in drifter mode..

we don't have any buffs

[median edge]

No I am not 😮

This isn't relevant to anything I just think it's v funny looking

It looks like a meme I love it

[opaque dove]

https://tenor.com/view/adam-warlock-gotg3-guardians-of-the-galaxy-meme-flying-gif-16191848131003490451

[pastel pasture]

I want DE to squash focus numbers

Like why am I getting 200,000 focus to work towards a 600,000 cost?

why not like. 200 focus for a 600 cost.

[lofty girder]

Cause its scaled off of affinity?

And would require recalculating the entire affinity system?

[pastel pasture]

sure lets do it

[lofty girder]

But why

[pastel pasture]

because i said so

[lofty girder]

But why

[steep totem]

desperately resisting the urge to "TELL ME WHY?"

[lofty girder]

AIN'T NOTHING LIKE A HEART BREAK

[opaque dove]

TELL ME WHY

[lofty girder]

AIN'T NOTHING BUT A CHEESECAKE

[steep totem]

[median edge]

On-Lyne? :0

[opaque dove]

Well; there ain’t no stopping me

The city’s on 11, maybe 2000°

[pastel pasture]

ok fine if you don't like my proposed affinity rework then how about we just remove all warframes and replace them with garbage pail kids

[steep totem]

Ngl, an Operator only gamemode would be really interesting

[floral hawk]

oh wow. i've never found this tile before

Al uses vacuum tubes for documents because of course he does

[undone lodge]

Cheescakes are anything but close to nothing

[undone lodge]

Albrecht definitely has the little brass capsules that go schwump

[floral hawk]

thwoomp etc

[uneven orchid]

Any Romanian dude who can help me with the game?

[sharp junco]

kavat aint got no head when i confront the specter lol

[trail field]

https://open.spotify.com/track/47BBI51FKFwOMlIiX6m8ya?si=K2VGYRLVSay6sKg8Q1Lr_A no here's the song

[median edge]

I was joking bc it's a boy band from 1999 😭

[solid otter]

Oh, from memory this is a dante tile iirc

[opaque dove]

I thought that was a tiny deer

[sharp junco]

i colored it to look like that

[median edge]

Omg can we get a pic of them with their head 🗣️

[median edge]

OH MY GOODNESS. THANK YOU 🙏🏽😊 THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL ❤️

[ivory halo]

guys I'm about to start new war

any tips and tricks?

[median edge]

It is longer than you think, you will have opportunity to take breaks tho

And I had to look up || the deacon || part (don't worry if you don't what what I am referring to yet, you will), it was the only difficult part for me, otherwise it was just very long.

[opaque dove]

Those things a pains

[crystal tiger]

bro got a little too scared

[sharp junco]

why she gotta stare at me like that

[zenith jacinth]

"Don't lose your- oh."

[crystal tiger]

"augh its you"

[white isle]

I kind of got my operator in the dormazone and went to edit my drifter and he now looks like this and it’s hilarious.

[shadow forum]

what is with his shape of lips.

[white isle]

By the way when I glitch him out he doesn’t have a neck

[shadow forum]

Than he has abbility to have a body and unconnected head perfect .

[white isle]

Funny enough the back of his head is bald

[shadow forum]

Good thing he is tenno

[white isle]

Actually his neck is compressed in his cranium

[shadow forum]

Ouch

[balmy storm]

Wait they’re cute-
Which colors did you use?

[lofty girder]

Pneumatic tubes? Albrecht isn't beating the tism allegations

[floral hawk]

if i had a penny for every time ive had an all-time favourite game feature pneumatic tube communication systems i'd have two pennies, which isnt a lot but its weird that it happened twice

[floral hawk]

it had so much containers under it i actually hit the Disruption mission timer (on 10-15 mins of not doing the objective it gives you a 3 min timer) this tile needs to spawn in a more convenient gamemode

[lofty girder]

Control?

[floral hawk]

yeah! i immediately thought oh damn did i walk into the communications department?

i guess, in a sense, this is Dead Letters

[lofty girder]

I need to finish that game, the midgame gets stale imo

[floral hawk]

it gets stale very fast! i treat it as a walking and art-direction-enjoying game

less an action game and more oh wow everything is so sick looking you'd think they put all the budget from gameplay to just worldbuilding

[pastel pasture]

so like...

Simaris is a sadist right?

[floral hawk]

yeah absolutely. the line where hes like do u think i enjoy this? irrelevant, go back to shredding!

[solid otter]

Yep! Sounds like a Dante unbound tile

[lofty girder]

You think with Tau we'll get another Jade loot cave incident?

[solid otter]

Hm?

[crystal tiger]

hey guys question, when does warframe start to get boring for you and why?

[fading current]

Honestly, Rare for it to get boring for me, but if I’m focused on a certain grind for a while the gameplay loop can get a tad boring so I usually switch it up before wanting to go back. Good example of that is any Lich I hunt. If I do bad getting the right parazon mod to work, it’ll get boring doing it over and over and over again lol. So when I feel that, I take a break and do something else in the game.

[zenith jacinth]

._.

[ivory halo]

should I get custom lotus

[tight pagoda]

?

[ivory halo]

do new war

[tight pagoda]

Last I checked you were on the Sacrifice, you're telling me you've done New War already?

[ivory halo]

I haven't

the thing is I'm asking should I start it

[tight pagoda]

Ahhhh

Well it's up to you of course. The quest takes about 3-4 hours and isn't too difficult

But you're locked into it until you complete it

[ivory halo]

yes I know

[tight pagoda]

Anyways since you seem aware of the custom Lotus thingy, it's important to know that even if you buy the other skins, the name you choose will be locked to that

[ivory halo]

I have seen the wiki

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/The_New_War#Conclusion

when I first saw "custom name" I thought you could change it to whatever you want

but after reading the wiki I found out later you're locked to three: lotus, natah and margulis

[obtuse gyro]

Usually comes with burn out, caused by playing too much of the game to grind for the next hottest item.

wont stop me from coming back after Ive "cooled"

[twin spoke]

Real time notes from when i was watching the video about albrecht lmao i stopped writing part way through bc i got mad idk if anyone cares /silly

[floral hawk]

every time adis says "valdur" it sounds like "bowser" to me

so i always hear "bowser! tenno capture another cache!"

[median edge]

Lmfaoooo real

[median edge]

SO LONG GAY BOWSER

[floral hawk]

we said this at the end of the old peace, trust

i was there as one of the conculysts

[solid otter]

Woah i think saying someone wants to off themselves as edgy is pretty. Bad. Yikes

Dont let you near a suicidal person holy hell

[twin spoke]

Im gonna hold your hand when i say this: i have multiple attempts in my past

[median edge]

This was my immediate reaction upon listening to the tapes, it did not endear me to him at all. I appreciate the lore dump but the self depreciation was a bit tiresome

[twin spoke]

Maybe dont assume shit about people you dont know

Like idk saying im not safe for a suicidal person to be around bc i think a video game character is edgy for talking about wanting to die rather than face the consequences of his horrid actions is not the flex you think it is

[median edge]

Genuinely wild take 😭

[solid otter]

I uh

Lowkey dont think that makes it okay

Because I too, have attempted, and thats a pretty shitty thing to say

[hearty pendant]

avoiding.. everything else about this
is he not actively facing the consequences by trying to combat them? that was the point of the last requiem logs and the lab notes

[twin spoke]

Clarification: hes not edgy bc hes suicidal. Hes edgy bc hes suicidal BECAUSE HE DOESNT WANT TO FACE THE CONSEQUENCES OF HIS SHITTY IRREDEEMABLE ACTIONS

[solid otter]

If I really wanna do a pissing competition, I am permanently under the state because I messed myself up that bad

[twin spoke]

Ok i wasnt trying to do a pissing competition i was saying youre not special bc you decided a stranger on the internet has never been through anything

[solid otter]

Yeah, and so why do you think going "haha hes cringe for being suicidal" will be okay for everyone

[twin spoke]

????? THAT ISNT WHAT I SAID

[solid otter]

No. No its

Hes been like that long before he did bad shit

[median edge]

I can see what you're trying to say but I think having that opinion that he wants out more than anything is a common argument. Literally when questing his intentions "well he wants to die" is a common argument

[twin spoke]

Can someone please read this and tell me if i said hes cringy for being suicidal

[solid otter]

Thats what the void incident seemed to have been

[median edge]

That's literally not what was said 😭

[solid otter]

Thats why he's upset he coudlnt die

Bevause he wanted to and couldn't

[twin spoke]

God forbid someone doesnt like your blorbo jfc

[solid otter]

I don't like him?? Id do the same for ballas

Id do the same for hunhow

I legitimately only tolerate him for Loid

[hearty pendant]

imo it seems like he's fine with dying, but is going to do whatever he can to fight wally in the meantime
passive vs active

[solid otter]

He no longer actively wants to, or tries to die. He just wouldn't mind it anymore

[twin spoke]

🤷🏻‍♂️ he created a problem, got upset about it, and then killed people

[solid otter]

Which is still some form of bad but yk

What person did he kill? Like. Amir who gets brought back from the loop?

Who mightve not even died by the time the reactor goes off

The reactor wasnt even his fault

[twin spoke]

"amir who gets brought back from the loop" YES. BECAUSE HE DIDNT EXPECT HIM TO GET BROUGHT BACK FROM THE LOOP

[solid otter]

That shit jist happened

[solid otter]

.. Albrecht set the loop up

[median edge]

At the expense of everyone tho and others tho, like he is absolutely an edgelord about it

[solid otter]

The loop has been there before us

Albrecht made the loop

[median edge]

Crypid I'm so sorry this is your experience 😭💔

[twin spoke]

Whatever im honestly tired of your bad faith takes, you lowkey really upset me when you said i called a man cringy for being suicidal

[solid otter]

You called him an edge lord for it

[hearty pendant]

we take control of it after he leaves, but albrecht had been looping for a while before that. he's aware of the loop and fully intended for it to loop again

[solid otter]

Which. Is a way of calling someone cringe

[fading current]

It’s made clear to us in the hex quest that this isn’t the first loop of 1999

[twin spoke]

Reread my messages until theyre burned into your retinas. I explained more than once that i didnt call him edgy just for being suicidal. Stop taking everything people say however you want its not a good look

[solid otter]

I aint even gonna try to explain that Albrecht himself also died in those loops when the reactor went off

[fading current]

Arthur: "So where's Entrati? You said this was a loop."

Eleanor: «Not anymore, is it? Your boogeyman changed the rules. You're toast like the rest of us now.»

Drifter: "Seems so. But that means we can change it too."

Arthur: "Stop the nuke."

During the hex ^

[twin spoke]

Idk its not cool to kill people whether theyre coming back in a weird time loop or not...hot take

[solid otter]

Amir might not even be dead atp

[median edge]

Taking things in bad faith and without context is a Thomas™️ special

[obtuse gyro]

conversely, we see from the post-quest email that the loop still loops, but further so

[solid otter]

A single gunshot to the middle area wont kill instantly

[twin spoke]

The point isnt whether hes dead or not now, the point is that albrecht shot and MOST LIKELY killed him

[median edge]

Anyways, back to your original point before you got derailed

[hearty pendant]

Amir was either going to die from the gunshot or a heart attack, based on the sfx around that moment

[solid otter]

Mhm

[twin spoke]

This is such a hostile environment

[fading current]

Yea but like in that moment in the quest, when we discovered albrecht wasn’t being held captive where he was and it was just Wally instead, that’s when they declared the loop was broken and we were toast like the rest of them. Of course after everything the loop goes on, but in this moment. It was pure panic cuz things were being changed.

[median edge]

I promise it's not everyone 💔😭

[solid otter]

I still think Albrecht getting yoinked by neci comes from the correspondence in the 1999 comic

[fading current]

Imma say this: albrecht seems to have shot him AFTER his heart freaking exploded. So really he was doing that Amir a mercy lol. Either way it was clear he was about to have some kind of heart incident before the man with the Lex prime showed up

[ivory halo]

here we are

[median edge]

Genuinely unhinged take

[ivory halo]

(I finished the maker)

[median edge]

WOO!! CONGRATULATIONS!!

[hearty pendant]

mm, amir's still able to choke out a few words before he collapses
i'd say it was about to happen rather than just happened

[floral hawk]

good luck big dog dont forget your fashion

[obtuse gyro]

tbvf, it is a particularly funny phrasing, given that the narrative beat of the scene is essentially:

"you said its a loop, so where would entrati be since its happened before"

"bugger played a different hand this time, ionno"

[fading current]

He probably got shot right before it actually exploded. The shock maybe pausing it and focusing on the bullet wound. Idk.

[obtuse gyro]

My read of it is that the loop is looping, just that the events in the loop have changed

which leads to the whole shebang

Ill need to relook through the Hex, but as far as I'm aware, the Hex never reached the reactor in the previous loops

given that we know exactly where arthur is for previous loops

[fading current]

Drifter clearly stresses that since Wally dug in that’s why the loop is changed this time. And why Eleanor said we’re toast like the rest of them at that point

[solid otter]

I don't think its like how Protea's reverse time works, tbh

[fading current]

Also the start of the hex quest is literally the reactor going off before rewind happens and it rewinding back to the tv screen saying: “It's December 31st, 1999. Let's SAY GOODBYE to the OLD YEAR with a track you all know and love from GLOBAL sensation On-Lyne!"

[solid sigil]

I just got done killing the spider thing and adis lokey pissing me off like bro I'm not dying cuz u wanna help the spider

[fading current]

Tbf that was his friend. And someone who had sentience before it was taken from them (again). It’s reasonable to see why Adis would be distressed/upset that we killed one of his Kin. Seeing your Tenno best friend kill one of your kind who you thought could be saved will change a being. Human or machine.

[solid sigil]

Hmmmmm 🤔 true

[hearty pendant]

also adis looks very similar to that dactolyst
same or similar kind of sentient maybe

[fading current]

Yea when he takes off his mask it’s literally the same facial structure I think…which adds to the pain

[night grail]

To be even more fair: watching your best friend kill anything would probably change how you see them a LOT

Especially as a child

[median edge]

Yeah idk how far you got but at least he is like damn... That sucks... But is chill after for a moment. He just runs away

[fading current]

Oh 10000%. WHILE TRYING TO HEAL said being…ooof. I can def see the pain that’d bring. The instant betrayal adis must’ve been feeling. I’m glad we were able to quickly rekindle things. Thou I lowkey wish we would’ve seen more of an emotional aftermath of that moment. Maybe one more scene before of adis missing from one mission. Idk.

[night grail]

Idk why the operator just stood and watched 😭

[pseudo steppe]

Lord have mercy on your soul 😭

[night grail]

That's like the most "oh my god oh my god holy shit I'm so sorry" hyperventilating moment ever because you were just forced to kill your friend's friend

[hearty pendant]

i'd say shock but operator's prolly killed before by then
eh, maybe still shock. didn't expect it to go that way, had to act instead of think

[solid sigil]

Man I always loved ballas

[fading current]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

[fading current]

Loved ballas how….

[solid sigil]

Bro has amazing drip in the armour

[solid otter]

Fair

He is pretty

[fading current]

https://tenor.com/view/right-youre-right-yeah-right-dr-evil-gif-16436901

[floral hawk]

fair the executor armor does kind of slay

and j would ☝️ like a drifter cosmetic of it

[solid otter]

The time in the collar was

[floral hawk]

consumerist brain speaking up

[solid otter]

Interesting

[solid sigil]

200%

[fading current]

We need a cosmetic of every villain or syndicate available

Give me my Loid set

Give me Albrect coat for crying out loud

[floral hawk]

generic tenno operative suit so i can blend in with the relay folk

[solid otter]

Give me Loid's glasses

[solid otter]

Realistically you need it to fit on both drifter and operator, so we probably wouldn't get the coat, but the hat is a huge chance

[fading current]

They did it with the huge coat drifter got in 1999. They could do it with albrechts.

[solid otter]

Hm?

What coat?

[fading current]

The scalrda one

[solid otter]

OH. Yeah that one can get away with it

[fading current]

If they made albrechts coat kinda like that to work with operator it’d be 👌👌

[solid otter]

Theyd probably need to remake the models for. Various reasons.
-# 99% sure the arms are just the sleeve

[solid sigil]

Wait so the sentiants we fight in the Star chat and stuff just lacking the flowers

[hearty pendant]

they're in the sentient hive, yea
the flowers give fragments individuality

[solid sigil]

Ah thx

[fading current]

I have a whole field of those flowers in my back room they could use lol

[solid sigil]

Ah that's why ballas name was red even tho he was on our side

[median edge]

Crying at Arthur literally not understanding emoticons and then immediately saying "I must Apologize to Aoi for... Alot"

Also from how ppl described Lettie I thought she was gonna be way meaner 😭

[ivory halo]

AIN'T NOTHING BUT BACK PAIN

#lore-discussion message

[olive cloak]

I just got to old mate with Solaris United

My eyes 😭

What the flip

[floral hawk]

thats why i turn on spoiler mode 😔

[thick iron]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G_t3f0MWUAAEum0.gif

lost at 8 seconds left on the timer

someoen left halfway through i was trying so hard to collect the glyphs

[crystal tiger]

dont ever come near me with devils bargain 💔

[pastel pasture]

why does nobody talk about the sad Pacman on the wall of the Zariman during the new war quest

[zenith jacinth]

Weak.

[floral hawk]

hey, no shade. I like robots better

[zenith jacinth]

They aren't robots either way

[floral hawk]

mfw you're pacman in the orokin era

[floral hawk]

yeah? i just like their pre-R5 looks, personal pref

[zenith jacinth]

You prefer to not see their faces

[zenith jacinth]

Imagine still playing deep archimedea

[median edge]

Oh my God 😭

[floral hawk]

no, i just like robots better irregardless of what their faces look like or whatever implications that carries, but i think we're just arguing in circles 😭

[thick iron]

i need those sweet archon shards son

[median edge]

You have a personal preference that's different from mine? EVIL. /joking

[zenith jacinth]

Temporal archimedea>>>

[floral hawk]

those shard slots arent filling themselves king

[thick iron]

i do both

[shadow forum]

What if wally was in roathe all the time.

[pastel pasture]

still rewatching the new war and man

Operator going "You lose your light? You can take mine." and wally responding "Thanks I think I will."

💥

one of these days we'll find out what the Operator's light is/was

[median edge]

Bro I'm always like surely this will be explained in the next quest but it never is 😭

[undone lodge]

We finally get an explanation at the end of a quest but the cutscene cuts to black or a different perspective

And the post-quest content is from the other halves’ POV so you don’t learn afterwards

Takes until the next Tennocon for it to be addressed with a teaser of the globelight

[pastel pasture]

DE announces they made transference in real life. c

[south hamlet]

Sometimes I wonder if Transference actually has any limitations, excluding gameplay ones.

Getting some DC Deadman vibes

[balmy storm]

Arthur booted us the first time so a strong enough will can just kick you out

There’s also what happened to Rell, left his meat body behind to stay in Harrow to trap Wally

Which that’d have to be after Old Peace now that I think about it

Maybe not actually

[south hamlet]

Wording it like that implies he was still flesh and blood and placed his "soul" inside Harrow

[balmy storm]

Rell was flesh and blood and he used transference on Harrow for the rest of his life

[south hamlet]

What are Operator/Drifter then? 🤨

genuine curiosity

[balmy storm]

Human?

I’m not sure what you’re asking lol

All of the tenno are human

[south hamlet]

Tenno cannot die, no?
So I'm wondering what happened to Rell in the end

[balmy storm]

Tenno can die

It’s rare but it does happen

Rell died, we literally saw what was left of his mind pass on

Mirage’s tenno died as well

[south hamlet]

So are you saying the Tenno we play as keep returning through force of will?

And Rell simply... let go?

[balmy storm]

Rell finally rested because he was holding back Wally for over a thousand years.

We’re still alive cause
Idk
Main character :p
in the Old Peace Adis does revive us and it seems to imply that’s how we have our revive ability

The thing is is it’s rare for a tenno to die, if ever

We got stabbed in the chest and were. Well not fine but it didn’t even leave a scar lol

[south hamlet]

Meanwhile Ballas during The New War "You cannot kill a demon, only send it back whence it came from"

[balmy storm]

What can actually kill us may not be entirely physical, immense pain to the point one is brain dead is a possibility

[balmy storm]

That was him sending us into a loop of our own personal history, our hell, our trauma

[south hamlet]

Right, right.

[balmy storm]

He thought the best place to trap us was one of the worst moments of our life right before we could do anything about it
He did not account for us saving Drifter and them coming to help us (so that we could then help them escape Duviri so they could help us)
Mostly cause he didn’t know they existed lol

[south hamlet]

I think it's safe to say the Void gives the Operator a sort of immortality.
So long as they can "maintain a sense of self" that prevents them from becoming one with the Void.

[balmy storm]

Near perfect plan but oops we have an alt reality self lol

[south hamlet]

Does that make sense?

[balmy storm]

No I don’t think that’s how that works

It’s also not the void itself that gives the tenno their powers

Saying Mirage didn’t maintain enough of a sense of her self and thus died because of it isn’t really accurate to what happened lol

[south hamlet]

Couldn't that just be old lore? Didn't Mirage release before Second Dream?

Same with Limbo

[balmy storm]

It still happened? Nothing contradicts it?

[south hamlet]

I cannot argue with that.

Jade's lore proved that Warframes can be sentient.
Heck, Umbra too

[balmy storm]

I mean yeah

We know generation 1 frames had sapience

[thick jolt]

Kullervo and dante are examples too

[balmy storm]

Problem was they would go mad
So the Orokin shelved em
And then the Tenno came along

But we still have those special cases like Jade, Kullervo, Stalker

[balmy storm]

Dante was gen 1 but he was also fine lol

Brain too big

[thick jolt]

He just read too much

[south hamlet]

Explains why Mirage went out laughing

[balmy storm]

She had a Tenno?

[undone lodge]

It can’t be done for 7 hours and 6 minutes after eating a strawberry and cream pastry and playing hopscotch with a close friend on a tuesday morning after 3:13 am

[balmy storm]

Ah man Transference is useless

[south hamlet]

And Limbo's Tenno died, because of messed up math? 😏

[pastel pasture]

math is messed up by default

[balmy storm]

We don’t know if he had a tenno afaik

[cerulean kiln]

Math can in fact kill you

[balmy storm]

Not every frame we learn about had a tenno

[cerulean kiln]

Some were made before we even came back

[balmy storm]

I mentioned the gen 1 frames already yeah

[pastel pasture]

when are we gonna get the warframe that was made before it was made

[cerulean kiln]

Drusus can never distinguish between piloted and non piloted in his Leverians

[floral hawk]

how on earth is drusus broke enough to turn to Parvos

millions of tenno donating hundreds of thousands average each de-canonized?

[undone lodge]

Ballas when that eternalism bs the archimedean assistants he had jade lighted were always making excused with messes up his entire plan

[floral hawk]

went bountying today. yeah, massive

[balmy storm]

Lmao

[undone lodge]

Randomly got brought back here, just wanted to remind that Drifter doesn’t remember that point in time, and had to become (re?)aware of the fact

[shadow forum]

So i have some questions regarding the tau:
1.when Family now gathered after loid came up to a stairs and talked with other famillies, what will happen now.
2. Who we will see on the TAU.
3. Roathe talked about some woman, where he said pray that Ballas is alive for what reason.
4. Will tau be below the void and dojo clan relay or will be connected deimos with mars,Venus,void,lua.
5.will lotus became an enemy after tenno finds the truth about her.
6. Will we see the real enemy wally with a god statue man in the wall appears as final fight boss with revealing the truth about the stuff,of what was going on after chains of harrow hapenned.
7. Will we hear some new stuff about Ballas when he tried to takeover the sun by manipulating the lotus in commanding her to control mothership for it.
8. Will void finally reveal some truth about the past of the orokin system.
9. Cetus and that tower that was used in quest after new war would it reveal, who she was apparently as she was used in transportation between areas in distances.

[floral hawk]

5. what truth

the whole thing was wrapped up from apostasy prologue to the new war if you're talking about the natah ordeal

[undone lodge]

1. Nothing for now

2. We don’t know

3. He said if she’s alive, pray that Ballas returns, and he’s talking about Nitokh, the Orokin Executor his whole KIM plotline focuses on. Basically, he views her as so awful that he’s saying Ballas would be preferable to her.

4. We don’t know, but it’d presumably be connected to whatever area is used to get there (such as Pluto, IIRC, the site of the original rail to Tau), or it’d be another thing entirely like the Refractory and 1999

5. No

6. Not sure what you mean but, anything like that wouldn’t be next, or at least not the full thing

7. He didn’t try to takeover the Sun, he was making Praghasa eat the sun to get energy to open a Void portal to Tau; and doing it in a destructive way that’d make it wreck the Origin System afterwards

8. Most likely not the Void, but we might learn a bit

9. The Unum is talked about in the Cetus fragments, and no

[shadow forum]

This clears things up

[fringe pond]

What did you mean by the #5 question anyway

[pastel pasture]

well for a start there aren't millions of tenno.,

There are probably 100-500.

[chilly pine]

i suspect 5 is referring to the other tenno, not the player character, but even still i think the answer would be no, given what shes done for us and her own story and how all that intermingles

[pastel pasture]

Roathe talks a bit about Lotus in his KIM

[fringe pond]

Oh right

[pastel pasture]

in particular I think 5 is referring to the hypothetical match up between Drifter and the tenno

[thick iron]

what other 2 syndicates can i max out if i have red veil and steel meridean currently, and how do i go about doing it?

i know people have 4 syndicates maxed out simultaenously somehow

[pastel pasture]

the two who you aren't losing rep with

You have

Chosen syndicate

half rep syndicate

2 neutral

-half rep

-full rep

[zenith jacinth]

suda and arbiters

needs micromanaging to keep all maxed

[pastel pasture]

also you can max rep with all syndicates

its just really annoying and isn't worth the effort

[thick iron]

or i guess perrin/new loka too right

[zenith jacinth]

way harder to manage

[thick iron]

i need that ancient protector specter bruv never doing an EDA/ETA without it

[zenith jacinth]

meridian is neutral with both arbiters and suda so you can use them to keep veil at 5 easier

[zenith jacinth]

just hope for kill squads, they commonly drop specter bps

[regal crest]

This are spoilers from the tektolyst artifacts, what's that 68% that now mentions it's 40%? It's always charged at 40% lol

[chilly pine]

when you enter the mission the tauron strike will start charged at the initial charge %, due to how long it takes to charge people recommend having high initial charge (you can also get orbs that generate charge in place of focus when using lenses while maxed for daily focus)

[pastel pasture]

do we have any good corpus leaders?

Like the Grineer have leaders who actually care about the individuals, like Vey Hek praising Kahl and Tyl Regor holding onto the grudge of us killing his perfect clones.

I guess Parvos is implied to care about his sisters but he's barely a character

like seriously name a piece of content where Parvos is relevant not including Deadlock protocol.

[thick iron]

thanks i guess lmao.

[pastel pasture]

Pistol whip them with Neutralizer

[regal crest]

Look at the inital charge

Like yes I knw what you mean, I've made a post in Reddit about how to charge these fast

But why is there a 68%?

It always ends becoming 40% and not 68%

If I'm correct, math should be 40% so it might be either bugged or telling me how it looks with and without lens bonuses

[undone lodge]

Belly of the Beast, technically JS and Zariman, Dante’s stuff and IIRC another thing

[undone lodge]

He cares about them in his own psychotic, delulu way

[pastel pasture]

from the way Drifter talks abbout it I got the impression it was sort of a

"I'm proud of your ability to fight" but if show yourself to not have that ability then he stops caring

[undone lodge]

Note how in the fantasies he mentions his sister is useful and agreeable, unlike his stupid stinky brother that cared about sentimentality

And if a Sister candidate fails, he immediately switches up on them now that they don’t fit into his idealised image

[pastel pasture]

So I'd say Parvos is comparable to Worm then

both have the same "I only care if you're useful" mentality with their specialboy troops

[solid otter]

Who's sisters do you think spawn in Jade's missions when you summon them? Do they just exist

[undone lodge]

If you count Perrin Sequence (since they don’t outright separate from the wider Corpus like Meridian and Kahl’s Garrison do the Grineer), Glast is

[pastel pasture]

as far as i can tell Perrin is fully detatched from the Corpus

[thorn zephyr]

Do you think Ballas and Wally (the Indifference) knew about each other? Maybe even worked together passively?

[undone lodge]

They’re “splintered” from them and say they’re separate but it’s more of a like, ideological thing than anything else.

[pastel pasture]

Wally was known of by the events of Old Peace

Entrati openly talked about him, at least briefly. Roathe knows about him

The tenno were known to hear voices

[hearty pendant]

entrati explicitly did not tell anyone about wally

[pastel pasture]

He mentions other people not seeing wally

which implies some level of communcination

[thorn zephyr]

So besides Roathe, there was speculation amongst the Entrati that some unknown force (the Indifference) causing the Tenno headache but didn't have a name for it until later?

[undone lodge]

Glast still has Corpus holdings/assets and positions, they use the same tech, they’re connected enough for Glast to just pop in for an Index match, interact economically enough for Glast to be offering bursaries, they can visit Solaris and buy bonds, and interact closely enough for members to worry about meeting old Corpus pals and exes

[hearty pendant]

"I had put the stars within reach, but at what cost? I never spoke of him, that man, trapped in the wall. And while there have been countless souls who have followed me through, with their light-skippers, and field-wave skins and vari-eyed instruments... not a single one ever saw him."

[solid otter]

He mentions them not seeing him. he says he never talked about him.

Him being "me"

Roathe probably only knows of wally from the operator report

[thorn zephyr]

If the Operator/Tenno decided to smite Ballas during The Old Peace (which I guess takes place back in time), would they then create a new timeline without Ballas harming The Lotus?

But then I guess the consequences of doing that would put the Operator/Tenno on trial for treason against the Orokin.. .

But then the beauty of Eternalism is that all timelines are equally valid, so I suppose it can happen in another timeline

[hearty pendant]

The Old Peace is reliving memories, we can't change anything that happened there

[solid otter]

The issue with eternalism is that unless wally or the void is actively there, making a deal, its inaccessible and impossible to use in almost any theory

[tight pagoda]

There's no time travel, it's just Operator reliving memories that they had forgotten/were locked away by the Dream.

[floral hawk]

we are basically doing hypnotherapy (or any form of therapy to deal with extreme repression) on the op

[floral hawk]

the billions of anarch i nuked and traumatized with grendel doesnt matter 😔

[earnest cosmos]

did khora's whipclaw get bugged onto every frame?

somebody tell me what is going on lol though i wouldnt mind having whipclaw on every frame certainly cant say the ability is on all of them

even ones that i dont own

[hearty pendant]

bug with the idle animation, if the whipclaw spawns for half a second it'll stay spawned
just have to let the animation complete to get rid of it

[earnest cosmos]

thx thats strange bug

[amber terrace]

Do the infested Entrati have any new voice lines post reunion with Loid?

[fading current]

They do when you speak with them after the cutscene

That’s about it

[amber terrace]

Unfortunate

[ivory halo]

shall I?

[amber terrace]

How much free time do you have? The quest is a good couple of hours and I recommend doing it in one sitting

[lofty girder]

It'll take about 4+ hours

[pastel pasture]

if i remove an archon shard do i keep it

[ivory halo]

I have school every weekday (around 6hr of freetime after that)

plus 10hr per weekend

[lofty girder]

Yrs

[balmy storm]

yes

[hearty pendant]

only way to lose one is subsuming or selling a frame with one installed afaik

[pastel pasture]

cool im harvesting my meme uriel build

[night grail]

Did you miss the part where Loid says "You're not on Tau. This is a memory. It happened. And I'm so sorry, but we can't change any of it."

[regal crest]

Be brave, go ahead

[tame canopy]

On a related note to striking ballas in TOP, during his defense mission the kaithe carriage he's in said if you fail to defend ballas we'll be the only yuvan available for emergency Continuity so if that legit happens we're probably gonna get kuva'ed as soon as he gets gravely injured

The real funky thing to think about here is the idea of ballas in the body of someone who can potentially use void powers, and may or may not have a connection to Wally afterward

Of course, lore wise we don't ever let it reach this point, but it's food for thought on how they had kuva usage down to a science, literally

Speaking of dark refractory, how exactly are we getting physical loot extracted from there again?

Duviri's spirals for example, that's definitely our drifter connection and void magic manifesting it to the origin systems

[floral hawk]

falls out of our pockets in droves

i dont think its ever explained?

[hearty pendant]

^ not explained, personally i'm putting it as a gameplay > lore thing

[floral hawk]

i like to think loid has to shovel it out

[tame canopy]

It's probably something similar to the netracell system lol

We just magically regain our memories to the scrap stash and loid digs it out based on our head

(The whole lab has all sort of stashes and storage, per Loids words when you exchange voca)

[floral hawk]

[loid voice] oh great. the operator brought a nekros. how big is this scrap stash again

[solid otter]

His poor back 💔

[solid otter]

Which is from Albrecht. Albrecht liked to hoard shit and its funny

[undone lodge]

We just, take it out?

Duviri’s a physical place

When we get/make resources and loot those are actual physical things

[tame canopy]

And how do those things make it to the origin system, to our storage?

[undone lodge]

Drifter takes them out

Of the door

[tame canopy]

The concept of drifter lugging dozens to hundreds of plant pieces, rune marrows, pathos clamps and more

Jk
I'm like pretty sure they're just made real and interactable to operator via the void after drifter's finished a spiral and head back

operator and drifter being intrinsically linked is alluded to even more with roathe talking about drifter "borrowing" the focus schools

lemme fish the kim for that, actually

[floral hawk]

dragging whole sacks of those things with our frame in tow dragging more

[tame canopy]

Roathe: I see these "schools" the Tenno wield, and that you borrow by proxy. Let alone the teachings of the Dax. How they would drone on and on endlessly on comms, no matter how many times we told them it was a restricted channel. (RoatheRank4Convo6 • Flowchart • Kimulacrum)

[floral hawk]

cute...

[tame canopy]

lore accurate drifter confirmed using focus schools from operator

much like how lore accurate drifter can use necramech and archwings :> yet we don't get to do it in 1999

It's funny to me, because you can probably imagine the opposite is true, that being drifter instrinsics affecting the operator

which means at one point our kid operator got Muscle Mass™

[undone lodge]

2029 1999 Archwing update where you fight Scaldra aircraft trust 🙏

[tame canopy]

totally, canonically making them a lil more beefed up 💪

[undone lodge]

Only dedicated archwing content for the next 10 years after a single segment of a mission type in Tau

[tame canopy]

Ngl this cracks me up even more when I think about the operator vs drifter hypotheticals roathe brought up

Like damm, we're almost equal neck to neck, what one persona has, the other can access, and vice versa

about the only thing we havent seen gameplay wise is operator melee

[ivory halo]

HOLY GOSH

[soft copper]

do you have all waybounds done already

[ivory halo]

nah

[soft copper]

would keep the brilliant shards then at least cus you need them for those

[ivory halo]

the only other focus school I have unlocked is nara

[thick iron]

wait you only need the blueprints? holy moly lmao

[thick iron]

what do i do bruh there's no more enemies spawning

is it over?

[zenith jacinth]

yes

those pillars only spawn enemies for a little under the active duration

[runic latch]

Posting this here because I'm not entirely sure if it counts as spoilers
I'm going through Roathe's KIM dialogue and

It is difficult to rid yourself of those who have been such a key player in your own tale. No matter how venomous they are.

HOW DO THE WRITERS SO OFTEN PUT INTO WORDS WHAT I'VE STRUGGLED TO SAY FOR YEARS.

[tardy raft]

I know as a writer myself that it's like painting an image of the mind with words. I do a bit of method acting, so I try to get into the mindset of the character, imagine how they would speak, and try to place that imagine onto an image. If it relates to the audience, all the more better.

[idle mural]

as a writer myself, all i can say is we know ball

[vagrant cape]

I was seriously taken aback by the Ordis speech near the waterfall

[left slate]

I just thought about something.

If our operator talks about their parents in the old peace quest as if they were still around, did that mean they survived the what the Zariman did to all the adults? Or am I missing something?

[undone lodge]

They did not

[left slate]

With adis in the beginning?

Maybe im misinterpreting what they said

[undone lodge]

Don’t remember what you’re talking about and the quotes section of the wiki never loads for me so can’t check to say more though

[left slate]

Right after you see the projection of Ballas for the first time

[undone lodge]

You are

[thick jolt]

yeah they are talking hypotheticals using the past tense

[left slate]

Now I just feel bad for the operator 😭

[steep bobcat]

exactly, as IF they were still around, operators still kid, along with adis technically, ig he was jst tryna keep the vibe relatively happy, which is sad to think abt

only diff between operator and drifter, is what happened after the zariman, they both experienced all the things in the zariman, to my knowledge, correct me if im wrong, and its jst that 1 "escaped" and one was trapped there

[solid otter]

Both technically escaped, one was just into Duviri and the other into the real world. And not exactly? Drifter also didn't get wally powers

[steep totem]

Other diff between them
Operator got Void Powers from the deal
Drifter did not

[solid otter]

Drifter arguably had a normal childhood compared to the operator

[steep bobcat]

oh yh right, mb forgot abt that coz of the sirroco

[steep bobcat]

yh thats fair

[steep totem]

Best friends with the absolute monarch of an imaginary realm
ye, totes normal

[solid otter]

I mean, compared to the alternative of being a child soldier killing hundreds in a meatsuit 😭

[steep bobcat]

i mean its arguably better because they were friends at the beginning

[steep bobcat]

yh drifter got the better end of the stick, got to control the meatsuit for fun 😭

[solid otter]

They did get murdered a lot

Which is pretty shitty

[steep bobcat]

was lwky peak watching him get the hang of it tho

[steep bobcat]

at least he got used to it i think? deffo would be worse of he didnt adapt

[steep bobcat]

very true tho

[balmy storm]

That’s not exactly what happened no

Drifter died so many times and was stuck in the loop that is Duviri that they became apathetic and numb to everything
They didn’t get used to it
They shut down.

[steep bobcat]

if they were not used to it, they would have tried to still feel smth, so ig they wanted to not feel it, but i see what u mean, makes sense

[fringe pond]

I mean
Also depends on how long it took for Duviri to get poofed into existence
Considerable amount of not normal in regards to the Zariman

[balmy storm]

They were in a timeloop and did everything they possibly could do, their days turned into the same thing every single time and their mental took a huge hit
They literally forgot so much of their own past, that’s how numb they were to the constant repetition from trying to do anything in an endlessly looping hell of their own making

[balmy storm]

I can’t imagine it took that long but it depends on how long it took for Drifter to breakdown

We don’t know their exact timeline but if I had to guess
Zariman Incident
Wally deal
Drifter watches the other kids kill the adults
The other kids are saved
Drifter is left alone on the Zariman in the void
Duviri forms due to their breakdown

[solid otter]

Unsure how long it would be, but I wouldn't go more than like. 5 days, if they had nothing to survive in the area they were in

Mm. Is there food in duviri?

[balmy storm]

There’s food on the Zariman and in Duviri lol

I don’t think it took days for Duviri to form
We literally see the landmass forming while Thrax is, maybe it wasn’t instant but days?
The void isn’t loading Drifter’s emotions from days ago, it continues to shape it

[solid otter]

Thats just a general thing, I aint saying it was 5 days 😭

[ocean canopy]

||Finally romanced Marie||

[floral hawk]

my whisper!drifter looks better than my actual drifter 😔

its the aurafarming float

oh, the syandana is giving the illusion that shes using a longcoat

[balmy storm]

That soes look cool

I wonder if you could recreate that with any emotes

I believe warframe animations are coming to drifter, depending on how that works that could be huge

[lofty girder]

Wisp agile set on drifter?

[uncut solar]

I assume just the same as animation sets on warframes

[balmy storm]

I meant with weapons lol, what anim gets ysed for the sirocco
I’d presume secondary but idk

[uncut solar]

Oh wait

We do always have sirocco out

[floral hawk]

do y'all also cuddle with and smooch the archons goodnight every week

i personally lovingly gaze into boreals eyes when the weekly reset rolls over

[lethal vortex]

In captura the two animation sets for drifter actually applies to his stance for when he holds his sirocco

Rather than being the default stance for holding a pistol secondary

[limpid dagger]

Has there been anything about being able to potentially choose a different name for the Lotus since the New War? I made my choice when the quest came out and at the time was in denial about certain aspects of my own life, and projected that on her by choosing ||Natah, the name she was born with||. Stopped playing for unrelated reasons for a couple years some time later. Now, years later and having worked through aforementioned issues, every time I see that name pop up, I feel a gut punch because I feel like I'm deadnaming her (||I'd choose the Lotus now, because that's what she chose to become in the end||).

Feels bad to play the game sometimes even though I really love the lore.

[cerulean kiln]

They did warn you for a reason
No quest choices allow you to swap and they most likely never will

[hearty pendant]

there's no way to change her name that i'm aware of, no
i understand what you mean but also want to point out that the three names/voices existed in her already, in conflict. in that moment, she picks which one leads going forward

[limpid dagger]

Yeah, yeah. Eternalism and all that. Still makes me feel bad.

[limpid dagger]

I hate this response, by the by. I didn't regret the name choice at the time.It is years later IRL and I've changed my name, and it hurts to see her called something I think I wouldn't want to be called at the time.

So I get to live with a permanent, distasteful choice that I made as an idiot teen, woohoo.

[balmy storm]

If it helps at all what you chose was not her name, not her identity but which of the 3 identities leads the other two and the Tenno
Lotus is still in there and that’s not a metaphor

That being said, I do kinda wish they’d permit a one time change for situations like this 🫂

[limpid dagger]

Doesn't, when every time she pops up to say it's the Grineer and the name is a reminder of worse times.

Appreciate the sentiment, though.

[balmy storm]

There is a chance, though low that you could ask support but considering how long it’s been I doubt they’d allow it

The New War turns 5 this year though which
Doesn’t mean much but hey maybe they’ll allow a single time change

It’s also possible we may have to wait for the next two arcs to end first if they consider the change

I specify the next two cause
We’re in said two right now
Void War and Tau
I’d assume that whichever one we chose will be important to some extent but she hasn’t been given much variation in quests

[night grail]

Yeah old peace had like, one line of dialogue different

[limpid dagger]

I can try that.

[zenith jacinth]

Consider; canon-wise it was her choosing, not you

[limpid dagger]

Irrelevant; I, the player, still made the choice.

[zenith jacinth]

Well, I tried to help
-# yeet

[balmy storm]

What line lmao

[cerulean kiln]

You also didn't read the warning sign

[zenith jacinth]

Not helping

[limpid dagger]

I made the choice YEARS ago when I was stupider and worse as a person.

I want to change it NOW

[balmy storm]

Yeah I don’t think lore explaination help, that’s not the issue

The unfortunate reality is I don’t think you can change it

[limpid dagger]

Yeah, I get it.

[balmy storm]

Actually

There maybe is an option but I’m not sure how it works

Try turning on spoiler mode

[balmy storm]

Dang I’m shocked that there isn’t a wiki page on that

[balmy storm]

I wish I saw this like 5 mins ago LOL

[cerulean kiln]

It's mentioned in the wiki

[balmy storm]

I’m sure it is but it doesn’t have a specific page

[cerulean kiln]

There's a thing saying despite your choices she uses Lotus skin but with unique dialogue

[balmy storm]

Why can we only now finally begin to heal now??
Weren’t you supposed to have helped us Margulis?
Oh wait she just sealed away the trauma >:p

[night grail]

Yeah she sealed away the trauma

[balmy storm]

Oh I meant for the spoiler mode lol

[night grail]

Cant do much healing when the thing you need to heal from is locked away

[balmy storm]

She does not know what therapy is 😭

Ok fair

Counterpoint
That can still mess you up

[night grail]

Im not arguing otherwise

[balmy storm]

Ok yeah lol

[cerulean kiln]

There's no therapist cause all the therapists need therapy

[balmy storm]

Orokin society moment

[night grail]

Locking it away only works in the short-term itll just do more damage in the long run I think

Not saying its healthy in the short term either

[balmy storm]

Ye

She had good intentions but uh
Dang girl

[cerulean kiln]

Lotus being able to push a void song away is crazy when it's a Sentient doing that

[balmy storm]

I think it’s more so the emotional push back

It’s been a bit so idk if we know exactly what the song means but iirc yara jelira shows up as well as mara (which refers to us) so if it’s a song of love then yeah that can probably push him back

[cerulean kiln]

Inbox message:
The Visitor

Tenno,

None of us could hear the Device that was calling from the abyss of history. The Daughter of Hunhow heard it, and almost succumbed to its call. She raised her voice in song to drown it out, and that we did hear.

I should have known she was waiting for you.

You answered a call and in a way, found an answer. For me. The time is almost right to finish the Kalymos Sequence.

I will soon be able to send you to the city-state of Höllvania, in the plague year of 1999 – a most perilous time. Without your equipment, you would surely perish.

Luckily, the Vessels have a connection to Albrecht's "volunteers" that I believe I can exploit. You will not arrive unarmed, nor unarmoured.

We won't be late!

—Loid

[night grail]

Tbh I really like Loid in the old peace

He was so immediately defensive

[undone lodge]

The non-specifically gendered parental role instincts kicked in

[gray sage]

Hey all does anyone know if we can change maries gemini skin eye color?

[zenith jacinth]

Yes, same as other gemini skins

iirc it's controlled by energy color

[gray sage]

Ah okay in attachments or main? Cause I cant change it on my end 😭

Nvm I got it thank u

[gray sage]

Do you know how to change her eyebrows? 🤣

[zenith jacinth]

Hair color

[gray sage]

They are still blonde 😭

[zenith jacinth]

Then they're uneditable

[gray sage]

Big rip

[solid otter]

Its nice consistent characterisation he has, obviously with Euleria, and very possibly with the grandchildren. He's parental. Albrecht also mildly does it but not as obviously

[molten haven]

didnt know if this classifies as spoiler, so... i took a bounty with fibo in sanctum, and flying murmurs don't show up that often... is that a bug or something? do they spawn in far away areas and move towards the player? i wish it was faster to do

[pastel pasture]

goodness

[rotund falcon]

why did she say that?

[balmy storm]

Yaoi supporter

[cosmic prawn]

I think she means in a fight, but is phrasing like that because she's a freak (complementary)

[balmy storm]

She also just is a freak

[mild marten]

Does the phoenix talons starting passive of the madurai school ("physical damage and operator damage increased by 10>20>30%"), which says it's for "warframe and operator," apply to just the damage of the operator itself and physical damage of the warframe itself, or does it also apply to weapons wielded either mod?

[solid otter]

Sometimes they just do that but it absolutely could be a bug

And they're called Gruzzlings, the gross little bastards

[zenith jacinth]

...you do have reading comprehension yes?

Operator and wf dmg is weapon dmg

[latent terrace]

Yo when we going to tau??

[zenith jacinth]

Soon™

[hearty pendant]

end of the year prolly

[floral hawk]

zariman passengers:

[white jetty]

Okay this is so goooddddd

That’s one of the best ones imo

[opal ridge]

Have yet to see Marie’s or Lyons tho, can anyone come clutch?

[white jetty]

I’ve seen Lyon but not Marie

Currently trying to get with Marie

[floral hawk]

i have marie's! ill get them in a while

[median edge]

This is killing me laughing

[floral hawk]

like okayy calm down the sentients are doing their best 😭

[fringe pond]

Gruzzlings?

There’s only ever one per mission unless you’re doing disruption

[white jetty]

Tag me when you post please

[regal bough]

Late nights explaining lore with my baby tenno I start thinking and exploring stuff and finding stuff... so I was playing around in the captura for the sanctum anatomica I discovered it was updated to the Old Peace. By using freecam you are free to look around a lot more than you are in general allowing you to get some pretty shots. I noticed that the kinepage got dropped by Natah/Lotus/Margulis and has started ringing once again. Sorry, I don't know if anyone has found this or has noticed that it started ringing or has done more research into translating what it's written on it... so I gave it a quick go. It's hard to make out the letter difference between N, M, and L so unfortunately I dont' know what the second last word means but I at least got something. "December 21st 1999, 02: ??? aim"

[tight pagoda]

I think that's a 31, not a 21, it's just that the 3 has a very tight bottom loop

So it's probably just a "1999 is set during New Years Eve" thingy

[regal bough]

Oh yeah I can see it being 31st

But the 02: sounds like it's more of a procedure? So idk

[obtuse gyro]

the screen has been the same as when we first found it

its 02; appointment iirc

[regal bough]

Ah I seee! Sorry for the confusion >.<

[thick iron]

damn i can't send steam video links, tragedy.

[lethal vortex]

I think i did something right this time in this second reset since the notes on ||Roathe||'s status says "We faced his truth together, and etc" i said etc cause i was not about to say the whole notes

[cosmic prawn]

That's the good end for Roathe, iirc. So good job.

[lethal vortex]

Ah alright

I ain't resetting after that

[tame canopy]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/1rdvcca/she_tried_to_kill_rhino/

is this a lore accurate tenno fight?

[deft mist]

Yes

[mild marten]

For all I knew, "warframe damage" could have referred to just the damage from their abilities.

Then again, a lot of the abilities only deal elemental damage.

[zenith jacinth]

I mean, for exalteds it does

But yeah it means weapons

[median edge]

This genuinely makes me so sad

Aoi I need to hug you yesterday 😭💔

The fact people say it and it's literally an in-universe upsetting/insulting thing to her makes me super sad. I'm so glad it's addressed in game and sorta called out as shitty behavior to say

[ivory halo]

I love the variable[s]

boolean aoimanicpixie

[median edge]

Yeah I'm glad I looked at the flowchart bc I would have never seen the apology conversation lol

[fading current]

First time ever subsuming a proto and good gods it looks like something out of the last of us with the infected attached to the walls lol

[ionic sleet]

[shadow forum]

Wally would be proud.

[floral hawk]

hm. if you subsume Umbra does he feel it...?

[obtuse gyro]

probably as much as he felt taking the sentient beam to the face

[tame canopy]

high key makes me cringe lol

💀 sometimes I hestitate reading bad end KIMs because some messages make me secondhand cringe lol

[lofty girder]

Fortunately we can't subsume him

[last hare]

He might just gonna attack helminth

[deft mist]

Hes been through enough

Leave him alone

Though he might end up.giving the helminth his personality and imagine it like it taking overr base and ballas comes back to that base

[floral hawk]

sorry, i misunderstood. apparently captura scenes =/= date scenes smfh

also, apparently the sanctum window light does not count as "scene lighting"

[median edge]

Wait

I know Amirs glasses are just for show

But there's a mannequin in the backrooms with the exact same ones in orange

Did he find them AT THE MALL lmfaooo

[rain otter]

Probably. He throws them off during the midnight kiss.

Also the backroom is a backroom is a clothing store so Probably

[balmy storm]

Albrecht’s clothing store

[rain otter]

Yee

[balmy storm]

Bro showed up in 1999
Established a fashion brand
Worked with Scaldra
Hurried the Infestation along
Infected ??? individuals with Helminth
Got stuck in his own timeloop
Then dipped for a different star system

[solid otter]

I have the. The gif for this where is it

Go white boy go
-# hes behind the counter working the till

Genuinely no clue why he's here

[balmy storm]

NOT THE VESSELS AS MANNEQUINS LMAO

I wish these weren’t gifs so I could look over them lol

[solid otter]

Unfortunately thats just what they were on artstation 💔

[balmy storm]

In the first image
Did they
Draw Albrecht in the A pose? Lmao

I’m guessing they maybe had a model and then traced that to get an idea

[solid otter]

These are renderings i think?

[median edge]

He really said starts a bunch of shit hmmm bye bye !

[hearty pendant]

i enjoy the kalymos pedestal
where she should be

[balmy storm]

The first one isn’t

Like the first gif’s first image

[median edge]

Nah it's a rendering for sure, the lightings just wonky

[solid otter]

What is this pose
-# HES BALD

[balmy storm]

It is insanely funny that the vessels are there

[balmy storm]

Albrecht: “i work alone”
Also Albrecht:

[solid otter]

He works with himself !
-# and Loid but Loid is there so he doesn't end up dying from not eating

[tight pagoda]

It's funny to imagine him as a retail worker while undercover. Repala Syandana? That'll be $34

Would you like a bag

[solid otter]

And he gives you obols as change

[soft pumice]

i love this voice line

[boreal pewter]

does anyone here know which devstream it was where DE was controlling a corpus vehicle in the plains of eidolon?
It was years ago and I don't know how you go about finding that out

[thick jolt]

Yeah gonna be hard to find that

It was such a one off thing i really have no clue around which time it was

[boreal pewter]

nvm someone figured it out

[thick jolt]

It was really janky

[solid otter]

Oh for a construct that shouldn't be able to feel, he holds so much emotion

[median edge]

God trying to decide who to romance in the hex is like so impossible for me right now 😭 the more I get to know them the more I like them all. I thought it would be easier to rule them out the more I got to know them 😭

They did such a good job writing these characters imo 😭

[real cloak]

I need some help with this one. I recently reset the triad because Marie was the outlier the last time. I’m trying to get her to see that entrati isn’t who she believes him to be, so am I supposed to apologise, or double down in this regard?

[hearty pendant]

apologize, doubling down will prevent you from succeeding with the family

[real cloak]

Appreciate it. I’ll give it a try and hopefully I’ll get it right this time around🤞
Marie has been an incredibly frustrating character to hold discussion with 😭

[median edge]

KIM convo flowchart spoilers, absolutely apologize

[real cloak]

Thank you!

Do I promise not to think less of her, or assume I already know what she’s going to tell me?

[median edge]

It seems they lead to the same thing

[real cloak]

I don’t plan to romance, so I assume second option won’t hurt my chances?

Oh, that worked I think? She said something about being properly armed to face those upstairs

[median edge]

Oof this flowchart is actually rather complex, heres the link if you wanna check it out! It checks your standing with others; kim.browse.wf /flowcharts_svg/en/MarieDialogue_rom.dialogue/MarieEntratiDay2.svg

Lemme check that statement!

Yeah that seems like you got chemistry from that, im not sure the implications of the context quite yet but she isn't mad at you at least lol

[real cloak]

A win is a win with her

Thank you for this. At least with this (assuming it holds) I won’t throw Roathe into another spiral after a reset 🤣

[median edge]

Of course! 💗

[sharp junco]

spot the difference

[floral hawk]

they wrote the hex as complex characters (thought amir was the corny quipperman until his adhd struggles came to light) and immediately fumbled it with the triad not including roathe

[balmy storm]

One has a cool hat

[median edge]

Honestly tho flirting with him and him immediately getting overwhelmed and leaving the conversation is so adorable I want to scream

[tardy raft]

I just chose the Hex member I automatically liked and just kinda went with it. That was Arthur

[floral hawk]

i let the hex be in their big polycule in the sky and go maul roathe

[median edge]

Yes hex polycule is my truth 😭
I like them all a lot I wish I could date them all lmfao right now I am just being loose with my emotions and flirting with everyone until I have to make a decision 😭

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT QUINCY, HUH? 🤔

[floral hawk]

"i hear" is load bearing

[tame canopy]

behold, the boon of being in a farming pubs squad for over half an hour

So much sola toroids that I got more than enough spare for everything the wiki lists that need this material

rank 5 lil duck here we go

[night grail]

I'm puzzled

Your Creator has the same blare as Lullaby of the Manifold

Oops should remove the embeds

My question is why

There's a reason for it

Executor has the Sentient leitmotif in it

Which makes sense

[solid otter]

Executor having sentient leitmotif in it is concerning I feel, considering what that track is [murmur]

[floral hawk]

wish i brought earbuds to work so i can hear wth are you guys talking about 😔 😠

[obtuse gyro]

Voidtongue in sentient?

you know what that means

[floral hawk]

i love me some recurring themes alluding to subtle ideas

[floral hawk]

ITS TAU TIME !!!

[obtuse gyro]

nope

SENTIENT SENTIENCE IS VOID BASED RAAAAAAAAH

[floral hawk]

broke my ankles on the spot...

[solid otter]

Its very aggressive murmur, I can hear Xata and maybe Fass at the start, but the sentient leitmotif existing inside is. Curious yk? Murmur and sentients.. both fragments in their own ways

[night grail]

Well, no Executor doesn't prove that in the slightest

Executor's Voidtongue feels more like Wallenstein taunting the tenno than anything else

"Hey remember this guy lmao look it's the trauma guy"

[solid otter]

Mm, it plays another time outside ballas

[night grail]

https://tenor.com/view/guh-gif-25116077

[obtuse gyro]

Im just firing every time I see sentient and void (non-negative) in the same sentence

[night grail]

I only ever remember it with the palanquin

[floral hawk]

sentient void

[night grail]

Which is ballas related even if we didnt know that immediately

[solid otter]

I cannot remember for the life of me, but I do remember it plays twice. I think during the fight to protect Itzam??

[night grail]

Okay I hear it

[solid otter]

I remember sending a thing here while replaying about. The track playing when Wally's presence was strongest, outside the refractory

[night grail]

That's true though it's definitely related to wallenstein's shenanigans outside the refractory

[solid otter]

Yeah so its weird that the sentient leitmotif exists in Executor, and that Executor plays outside ballas

[night grail]

I could see the reasons it plays i think

[solid otter]

Song reuse /j

[night grail]

The whole ballas being the deciding vote of the treaty and for the tokh-amn its defending sentients but those feel like stretches

[solid otter]

Mm, I was gonna say that

[night grail]

Worst part about executor is that it's quest exclusive

There's no way to separate the layers

[solid otter]

Mm, that would be an issue, yes

[tight pagoda]

Ballas is (thematically) linked to the Man in the Wall because his vanity is what made him tear a hole into the void via praghasa

[solid otter]

That's true, but has it ever happened before?

[night grail]

No because he died after trying to do that

[solid otter]

No i mean like, after that has anything regarding ballas triggered a murmur esque soundtrack? Though after he died I don't think he appeared after

[tight pagoda]

I think this is the first time we've seen Ballas after the murmur was given an established soundtrack

Well, after the Murmur, even

[solid otter]

Yeah, the murmur didnt exactly. Exist visually before then, outside wally

[safe comet]

Currently doing the new war quest and man Ballas give me mad "Dwarf in the flask" vibes from Fullmetal alchemist

[floral hawk]

like Father before father? the little quirky dust mote?

[safe comet]

Ye

A little parasite that mooch of the power of others

But cant do squat by themselves

[floral hawk]

i see it

[waxen sphinx]

Is the devstream today or tommorow?

[lofty girder]

Its in like... 2 and half hours

[waxen sphinx]

Ok

[sour wren]

You never hate ballas enough

I think he wanted to do continuity ritual using the operator, there are a lot of hidden info that we don't know yet.

[balmy storm]

No, you’re thinking of Tuvul who tried to do that on Voruna’s operator
Also the Grineer Queen tried to do continuity on us

[floral hawk]

i GUESS you could count the Palanquin threatening to use us as a continuity subject, but that seems like a general threat because we're just conveniently close

the only ones who really wanted to red kuva into an operator is Tuvul and the Grineer Queen

[dusky barn]

Did I fail to bring Kaya to the future?

Idk if it's still bugged or if they fixed it

[steep totem]

Did you correctly identify the purple rock she found?
If not, then no future for Kaya

[dusky barn]

Oh that convo didn't come up yet

I think

[steep totem]

Then you still have a chance

I think

[dusky barn]

My last convo was abt Duviri

[dusky barn]

Ok ty! :D

[steep totem]

The purple rock is, hilariously, the crux of getting Kaya to the future

Identify it correctly

[dusky barn]

I assume it's Argon?

[steep totem]

...perhaps

[dusky barn]

Ah you're gonna let me guess lol. Fair

[hearty pendant]

-# the purple rock convo gives you four separate chances to get it right, you have to be trying to fail it tbh

[real niche]

If you fail Kaya I'd be shocked you could put your shirt on in the morning

[night grail]

The closest thing is the palanquin line but that's like, impersonal and just sounded like procedure. If ballas wanted to continuity the operator you know it'd be way more sadistic

[solid otter]

Fun fact, they actually informed the VA about what continuity is

Which

I don't know if it was needed but it is incredibly funny

[tight pagoda]

Getting big Esquie vibes from follie

She got the wheee and the whooo

[solid otter]

Looked the fella up, yeah absolutely

Follie seems like such a fun frame

[limpid hinge]

been replaying this quest alot

[solid otter]

Kind of a random bullshit go frame but its fun

[fickle harbor]

I remarked to my partner before the stream "I don't care how good she is, I just hope she does something fun and goofy." and my wish has been granted.

[misty veldt]

I was unable to join what she do if I may ask?

[solid otter]

Im just happy I got more clown stuff I love clowns

[solid otter]

She can teleport, think like. Splatoon? Make balloons, uhh forgor her 2 and her 4 does this big. Area thing?

Pablo's voice makes me forget everything he says

She also has a sketchbook that allows you to summon random shit

As in a orokin death orb

Or a lohk surge

[fickle harbor]

Absorbs and generates ink with passive; old Hydroid puddle but with teleport for her one;, has a sketchbook ability where she can summon map and envirnment pieces like explosive barrels, Survival life support with cooldown, Lohk surges; her three is just straight damage reduction with a giant ink version of herself; and her four makes enemies fly up with balloons to take fall damage.

[solid otter]

That was her 4? Christ

It was too early 😭

Oh and we got mod cosmetics

[misty veldt]

Oh im gonna have to get my hands on plat I need a slot for this

Silly goober is my language

[solid otter]

She is super silly

Her. Theme isn't as funny but its spooky

[fickle harbor]

Absolute silly billy, her signature weapon is an ink beam gun.

[fickle harbor]

Slight amendment: The balloons on her 4 also strip armour and shields.

[solid otter]

And give like. Stupid fall damage Pablo might remove

[misty veldt]

God im too broke for this I need to get my platinum and my funny up at the same time for this

[solid otter]

It releases on the 25th so

Of march

So you have time

Go, grind relics to sell prime sets for

[misty veldt]

I gotta learn pricing now agh

[fickle harbor]

Having made over 700 Plat in the last little while, I can say this: Mods that are mildly annoying to farm are my big ticket seller.

[solid otter]

Oh also the tennocon thing for this year

Sentient stuff!! And somehow!! Albrecht is involved

[misty veldt]

I gotta actually look through my inventory I dont even know what mods I have in there that may be rare or if I have relics you cant get at the moment

[solid otter]

Like tau n shit but like brother is he gonna get murdered

[misty veldt]

Im too much of a hoarder

[solid otter]

I have like. A lot of vaulted relics now

[fickle harbor]

Drift Mods are always good, Nightmare mods go for pretty good money, Corrupted Mods always sell.

[misty veldt]

I have unused riven mods

I know that

[fickle harbor]

I've found Arcanes chip in a decent bit now and then, for a good chunk of the player base the Platinum is worth the convenience.

Looking at you, Conclave Mod I sold a week or so ago for a good hunge.

[solid otter]

I have like. Some random rivens ive only ever unlocked from ciphers from nightwave

[solid otter]

You gotta just sell em at the right time. Most operations will nuke the arcane market

Big ones like arcane energize when literally any operation, or arcane hotshot taking a small hit from when you could get it from gambling with Loid

[misty veldt]

I probably have some good stuff its just how much they go for is what im having trouble with as I dont know prices that are the usual

[solid otter]

Or now that you can get it from gambling

[solid otter]

Usually check the market, it'll have a median price

[misty veldt]

Ok

[tight pagoda]

Her 1 teleports her (she goes into the ground and pops out in a splash of Ink), her 3 summons a visage of her and gives her Damage Reduction, the more enemies she kills near it the more powerful that DR goes, the longer the visage stays, and the larger it physically gets, and her 4 causes enemies to all be bound to ink balloons, and when you shoot them down they take fall damage.

Her 2 is chaotic though. She can summon a whole bunch of things, including thermian RPGs, Zariman ghost children, life support capsules, pseudo Defense targets, excavator power charges, explosive barrels, Disruption keys, and a whole lot of other stuff. And you can even customize the icons using a photoshop-like drawing tool.

[misty veldt]

Oh im gonna have to do so much trading because I want nidus and Octavia too

[thorny barn]

Create ink art warframe
Make signature weapon
It's a rifle, and not an ink brush staff
Cry.

[tight pagoda]

I remember people saying she was going to have an exalted grimmoire

[solid otter]

It would be so awesome

[thorny barn]

I didn't think I could hate her kit more but this would do it

[solid otter]

It would be so cool 💔

We need more tome weapons

[thorny barn]

I feel like they need to all be unique

Like, a new tome that siphons like Moira from Overwatch might be cool I guess

[fickle harbor]

It's an inkjet beam, to be fair.

[thorny barn]

The last thing this game needs is another beam weapons 🥀

We're already getting a fifth quanta

after a second glaxion and the torid being everywhere

[fickle harbor]

I still think the coolest thing to do with Tomes is one for each of the first three factions. Kuva blood magic for the Grineer, energy-themed magitek for the Corpus, and a Necronomicon for the Infested.

[thorny barn]

There's like, three staff guns.

[thorny barn]

I could see the Kuva theme being the siphoning

a necromancy book would be cool esp for Nekros

idk wtf a Corpus book would do

[fickle harbor]

We're getting a new Speargun with Styanax Prime.

[thorny barn]

It's a Lego manuel for a Lego Moa

[thorny barn]

I'm not counting prime alternatives

otherwise it'd be 4

Also the Afentis is dogwater dookie, a prime isn't saving it

[fickle harbor]

I'm intrigued by this one solely because it's the first Tenno Faction beam weapon. We don't actually have one of those yet. Phantasma is considered a Sentient weapon.

And I just find that neat.

It's like how Oraxia finally gave us the first Tenno whip.

[thorny barn]

MR Fodder speedrun

[pastel pasture]

what are y'all looking forward to with Shadowgiraffer?

them finally modernizing survival sounds nice

[median edge]

Follie spoilers for the chat 💙

[pastel pasture]

i dont know all the grind reductions but i do know a few

Khora, Braton Vandal and Lato Vandal are included

[timid remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

[pastel pasture]

i feel a bit cheated because i'm already so close to finishing both grinds but eeh

they are nigh impossible for a casual player to get

[median edge]

(included, the sketch mechanism, alt colors, new foil and special art mods, and new relay)

I'm actually excited about everything I'm not gonna lie 😭💙

[pastel pasture]

can't wait for the influx of "I got banned for literally no reason" right when shadowgrapher drops

[median edge]

The foil mods is so extra I need it

[median edge]

LMFAOO true 😂

[pastel pasture]

what even are foil mods?

[median edge]

I don't know all of them, but it's a new cosmetic and doesn't do anything else but shiny lol they said they were inspired by things like mtg and want to get guest artists in the future

[rain fractal]

Wait is follie acts like an artist.. Orrr she is just a ink frame-

[median edge]

She's an spooky clown artist

Her new game mode literally has you putting ink on canvases

[hearty pendant]

throw some ink on the mod to make it look a little different, like its been illustrated/painted. Follie will replace the frame in the picture, if there is one
not a great image but its the one i have

[rain fractal]

Oooo

[pastel pasture]

Bro I can build a whole Centaur? BRB building myself a horse person

[median edge]

I still to this day think there should be a centaur frame lol

[solid otter]

-+

[median dove]

Why?

[pastel pasture]

they are adding the ability to draw whatever you can imagine

[median dove]

Oh yeah

[pastel pasture]

peopel are gonna draw not so good things

things i can not imagine i'm allowed to say in this server

[fringe pond]

NO WAY??

[pastel pasture]

yes way. -59 min points for questioning me

[fringe pond]

how big the reduction?
Unless they didn’t say

[fringe pond]

Questions you more

[pastel pasture]

i don't think they said

[fringe pond]

Man :(

[pastel pasture]

for the vandals? maybe making ESO pay out every zone instead of every other

or just increasing the drop chance...

not like anyone going to zone 8 for anything but the vandals

despite the fact as long as you can manage it then it doesn't really matter. same amount of time to get to zone 2 4 times vs zone 8 once

[fickle harbor]

Mentioned on stream was: Equinox, Khora, Nidus, Harrow, Wolf Sledge, Sporothrix, Arum Spinosa, Braton Vandal, and Lato Vandal.

[floral hawk]

HARROW GRIND REDUCTION?

i can make my ten million harrows without defection?!

[pastel pasture]

you know i had to do it to em

[solid otter]

He does need to face himself. But I need you to imagine his physical reaction to this, knowing he is in the main area of the sanctum

[pastel pasture]

angrily signs out of KIM

[solid otter]

Smashed the mouse button and got a lecture from Loid

Aggressively closes it

loid didn't like that

[hearty pendant]

||RoatheForgivenessShortcut|| is now true.

[solid otter]

I can imagine the dread he felt

[native cove]

naw dog

https://tenor.com/view/long-tears-gif-11087877242190144149

[pastel pasture]

did you propose after talking about entrati?

[solid otter]

HA

Once again, Marie's romance is failed

[solid otter]

Okay, lets see. Did you agree with her about Albrecht a lot?

[native cove]

maybe

[native cove]

she was already upset and my friend convinced me to confess idk why i trusted that choice lmao

[pastel pasture]

"hey marie your ideals are flawwed and those you worship are but trash in the wind.....so you wanna go out oooorrr..."

[native cove]

lmaooo basically

i was tired when i made that first decision that made her mad so i wasnt thinking clearly

[solid otter]

Protip, dont do that. Don't go full on "Albrecht would kick a puppy just because" but go in-between

You're supposed to get her to believe that he is "a complicated man"

Meaning you can agree with her on some things, but on others you need to remind her of things

[tame canopy]

https://x.com/PlayWarframe/status/2027476438555803798

WARFRAME (@PlayWarframe)

New quality-of-life changes are coming to #Warframe.

In addition to a Survival Speed-up, we have a Cold Status and Arctic Eximus Rework, as well as improvements to mantling for ease of movement.

X · Feb 27, 2026, 8:10 PM

Survival speedup on the way

[solid otter]

Mhm

Its like. A key thing you can find

[tame canopy]

sounds like it's not a monster killing though

I guess it's akin to plugging a data mass?

[solid otter]

Mm, I suppose

[tame canopy]

This may or may not be a tad disruptive to the "camping" strategy for survival farming

[obtuse gyro]

if you already have 4 pax you can sacrifice one fella lol

[tame canopy]

when you put it that way, that's fair lol the guy doing the fetch quest can come back to the camp

[solid otter]

Honestly im excited for shadowgrapher

No more proto shit for now, and thats okay

I still believe a proto loid exists in the future but it would be in a bigger update i feel

[tame canopy]

Proto loid?

how does that work? isnt the sanctum loid the "proto" and necraloid's the non-proto?

[solid otter]

Protoframe Loid, whole mini theory

[tame canopy]

ohhhhhhh