spoiler-chat

[jovial salmon]

rip

[amber terrace]

If I am to retort, the message specified only Devils Triad, not Hex??? Or is my reading comprehension cooked???

[jovial salmon]

hopefully it doesnt mess up what ive done already. got screwed over by the first time it was an issue and had to restart them....

[civic ore]

just saying cause it feels like either or shrugs

[amber terrace]

Hm,,, either way I’m gonna follow your directive and not start the conversations(Lettie’s seems like a really easy and painful way to have her break up with me and I really don’t want to reset)

[jovial salmon]

can they roll back the KIM convos? thats a whole lot of work to have to try and redo.... again....

[thick jolt]

Your reading comprehension might be cooked

It says the fix towards devils triad affected and bugged all kim systems

[amber terrace]

Ah, I never claimed to be a smart person lol : )

[thick jolt]

We all have off days

[fiery oyster]

so uh.. Marie is on Anathema now

[amber terrace]

How do I check my KIM rank without doing a conversation? Lettie is still in my backrooms??? I didn’t do any conversations and the conversation changed??? Did I just mess up my year + long “relationship” with Lettie???

[thick jolt]

I'd wait it out tbh

[fiery oyster]

WHY AM I FRIENDLY WITH LETTIE NOW

[fiery oyster]

Lettie isnt even in my backrooms anymore, wtf?

crap lol

[thick jolt]

Tldr they cut the wrong wire

[amber terrace]

My Devils Triad isn’t bugged, Lettie is still in my backrooms, but I have convos with Lettie and Amir?

[shadow ivy]

Arthur and I are dating but new update asked Arthur to break up with me (jk) ✋😔

[fiery oyster]

but in the mall, I have the option to break up with her, wtf

[shadow ivy]

S a m e

[fiery oyster]

so confused rn but that just means I aint playing any convo now.. it broke Marie for me, I think but tbf frickin Roathe is still bugged for me as well and its been over a month now

[thick jolt]

The overcomplicated system with roathe was definetely a mistake

They spagetthi'd too far

[fiery oyster]

no, it was a great idea just had some things they needed to iron out

[shadow ivy]

Before update: my best friends with all and date with Arthur
After update: they liked me and broke up with Arthur

[thick jolt]

What i mean is they put too many flags and checks in his convo
Which clearly keeps breaking

[fiery oyster]

that and my convo with him after the 21 runs got bugged halfway through so its softlocked

[shadow ivy]

I hope it will be fix

New update cutely snatches Arthur away from me but I need to take him back 😔

[thick jolt]

Like the background system behind the convos is clearly unhappy

[fiery oyster]

yea

[shadow ivy]

I agree

[fiery oyster]

it is kinda frustrating though

its tempting to just reset

[shadow ivy]

Me just confused like “where is my Arthur go?”

But I wasn't mad at the updates who mess

[fiery oyster]

what annoys me is the fact I was 100% on the right track to redeem Roathe too

[shadow ivy]

Time to get my Arthur back 😔

[fiery oyster]

I Cant claim to know whats going on in the background and how bugged out it is but its been over a month now with little to no updates on the KIM system, idk what this hotfix was about barring the end cutscene

where do I go to get updates from DE about whatever it is they're doing if not here?

[fringe pond]

Devshorts and prime time

Or forums

[fiery oyster]

yeah I'll check the forumns

[thick jolt]

Also they usually post any important psa in #game-updates

[jovial salmon]

could they disable the kim convos till they can actually fix them? generally asking

[thick jolt]

Probably not

[fiery oyster]

they should tbf or at least do an ingame pop up saying something about them

[thick jolt]

The true end of the hex quest depends on it after all

[jovial salmon]

kind of doesnt matter if it keeps borking people stuff back so bad

[terse verge]

i was about to ask if someone else had a problem with the KIM msgs, lyon went from loved to liked for me, but i see others are having problems too

[jovial salmon]

yeah hey major borked it. again

[terse verge]

big oof

[median edge]

It is cracking me that every other message is" is there a bug?!"

And the last 50 messages are people telling people yes lol

[soft coral]

wow
Lettie went from Best Friends allll the way back down to Friendly on my end
and Amir, from Loved, to trusted

he's not in my backroom anymore

I already interacted with the chats before I read the announcement so here's to hoping that doesn't bork my rank up and not revert it when they fix it

sob_cry

[exotic eagle]

hey can someone restate the PSA i'm not getting it, if we had reuinion trigger can I play the new convos or should I avoid it for now?

[thick iron]

I know the bug I just find this hilarious that it went from best friends to ANATHEMA 😭

[exotic eagle]

I've been there... since like forever? I got the reuinion but i still had it

[thick iron]

my issue with resetting devils triad is apparently they remember... and that is quite scary lol esp if they don't like that

[exotic eagle]

are they supposed to remember o-o

[median edge]

Just don't interact with any Kim conversations rn

[real niche]

Only Roathe does but remember his first message is all about him already knowing his brain is messed up and looking out for that stuff.

[exotic eagle]

if I had anathema even after getting the reuinion and this new push what does that mean?

[real niche]

Not a clue, I'd just leave it and touch nothing until they fix it for real

[boreal pewter]

did this ever get translated?

[tight pagoda]

I'm curious about those bottom 4 symbols

Because they kinda remind me of ability icons

Galastra Protoframe confirmed??!?!??

[honest dagger]

What?! Did I just mess up with Lettie? (my beloved )
||I thought it'd be like "Ok, no problem" and then I'd tell her about the future like she'd asked qwp||

[ruby cliff]

just had the same thing happen with marie

[honest dagger]

I think I know the exact conversation you're talking about :/

[ruby cliff]

my entire relationship got bricked but i have ss to prove i was her lover

[ruby cliff]

who knew "the devil" WOULD BE REFERRING TO LYON AND NOT ROATHE 😭

wow my spelling is great today

[honest dagger]

Mine doesn't look to great anymore either qwp

[ruby cliff]

oof, well atleast you still have a fixable relationship

[honest dagger]

She still likes me, thankfully :3

[ruby cliff]

W

all the hex are good picks tbh, i just hope velasco gets more screentime since shes out of 1999

[honest dagger]

Honestly?

Like super frfr
I chose Lettie because of her rats 🐀

[ruby cliff]

real

i enjoy putting spanish into the text

my cat was violently rubbing against the enter key

[boreal pewter]

zoomed in a bit

[ruby cliff]

whats this

[boreal pewter]

this

[ruby cliff]

ah

[floral hawk]

since theyre painted on rocks, maybe code?

one sec pulling out the orokin dictionary

[vivid wagon]

I still cannot stop rewatching the Uriel intro, goes so damn hard

[tight pagoda]

Did you notice how the tail conducts the music

[ruby cliff]

undeniably so

[vivid wagon]

IT DOES??

DE loves their attention to detail

Oh my god it does

Such a small detail, but it's so insanely cool

[ruby cliff]

i never knew that

[floral hawk]

"Galastra"
"Seperatists(?)"
cant make out the little gold titles

do you have a better zooming weapon lol

[boreal pewter]

nope

but separatists makes sense

actually I think those icons represent maybe the different factions of the separatists that are banded together maybe?

[floral hawk]

before the logo, e?ns?gn ? ensign?

couldnt be onsign the vowels are blurry asf

[floral hawk]

topmost line, PROJE(?) or something

[brittle tangle]

Ain't that just the same one but stretched?

[floral hawk]

different o location

likely ensigns or just variations of the separatist flag?

[median edge]

Nah slight difference

[supple dagger]

heart of deimos in a nutshell-I am actually getting more and more angry every time a npc opens a mouth that isn't ||loid "Oh you should help me because x family member did x" We are all about to die because the heart is failing, and your concern is your family member offended you way long ago.||

[floral hawk]

its orokin. they're shortsighted and flawed

[supple dagger]

I think my excalibur is broken

||and also his weapons are gone||

[pastel pasture]

Orokin will be Orokin. Why would the superior version of humanity dare to help you unless they get something out of it

[tight pagoda]

That's intentional, you're weaker because of what just happened

The visual stuff on Excalibur shouldn't be that much though, pretty sure it's just temporary static

[solid otter]

This is what a flawed character is like

[tight pagoda]

Lmao discord

[solid otter]

Discord, almost as buggy as Warframe!

[supple dagger]

That isn't even the correct reply lol

[zenith jacinth]

That's the funny thing

[supple dagger]

wrong channel even

[solid otter]

But yeah

[supple dagger]

lol

[solid otter]

The entrati family are. Complex

[tight pagoda]

You'll learn much more about the Orokin over time

But these guys are like the most sane ones

[median edge]

That's why I kinda like them, they are annoying and f-ked up lol like as characters I mean

[zenith jacinth]

Son is the most sane one closely followed by grammar

[supple dagger]

Son does seem sane

[tight pagoda]

And Son is also the one who ||got them all infected|| while Grandmother... well, you might figure it out at the end of the quest

[median edge]

Spoilers || I actually thought it was interesting when the grandmother talks about all their flaws and the way she talked about daughter bc I didn't find her that bad, I found her to be one of the more reasonable characters in the family||

[zenith jacinth]

If anyone tries to argue that daughter is sane, remind the simp that she gets very excited about cutting open fish

[median edge]

I dunno cutting a fish and doing what the rest do is like miles apart imo lmfao

Like so does the fish lady on earth lol

[zenith jacinth]

Read properly

[supple dagger]

dysfunctional family, just like mine in real life. No wonder I hate this quest

[median edge]

I did

[zenith jacinth]

Try to read the (attempted) obvious subtext then

she gets >very excited< about cutting open fish

[copper scroll]

how do i know if i failed to romance roathe?

[floral hawk]

i dont find her great fascination with gore and viscera and all of its details as "too much" but then again i have her same fascinations and may not be the most unbiased source

[solid otter]

This is the more humorous side of the family. You'll learn that abuse runs rampant.

Theres a reason father is missing an arm.

Hell, theres a reason why he just looks messed up in general

[median edge]

Right like especially in comparison imo idk

[solid otter]

Mother acts like that because her father is "dead", Father acts like that because mother abused him, son acts like that because mother neglected him while she put daughter on a pedestal

[median edge]

Grandma deadass said "she's annoying" basically lolol

[solid otter]

And daughter acts like that because thats what happens when you put a child on a pedestal

[floral hawk]

and father also neglected everyone elses feeling, of course. mockd both son's interest/theories in fauna and daughter's fish collrction

the great dysfunctional family in the sky

[median edge]

Literally vaporized her shit 😭 * the son of course

[floral hawk]

what

[solid otter]

Ew.

Id rather die than contact the orange orokin.

[floral hawk]

you know what this means? scam yanks more

impact players based on political views

ah, there you go.

[solid otter]

He didn't actually! He let them out to deimos

[median edge]

Oh did he just lie to her? O:/gen

[floral hawk]

he didnt want to go too far

sort of? wanted to "wound, not maim"

[median edge]

I'm confused but she said he turned them into ash tho :0 do you learn something else later?

[agile haven]

it's the rank 3 dialogue iirc

[median edge]

Oh so like something you find out after gaining standing ?

[solid otter]

Yup, rank 3 from memory. He gave her a box of ash. He lied

Each family member has their own little rank up cutscene. Cept for grandmother, because she willingly gave up her name

[median edge]

I feel like that's still f-ked up emotionally to do that but I'm glad they weren't turned to ash I suppose lol

[solid otter]

It is

They're not perfect by any means

No character in warframe is

[agile haven]

except ordis. he's perfect

[floral hawk]

except ☝️ 😃 my domestik drone

[solid otter]

By what metric 😭

He is by far from a "perfect" cephalon, his actual person was a mass murderer - albeit he killed indiscriminately

[agile haven]

he's perfect just the way he is

[wanton flax]

Those families are something else

[solid otter]

Yeah. This is an unfortunately common family dynamic.

[wanton flax]

Yeaa.

[pastel pasture]

Really? Am I really an Orokin at heart just because I reset all of their memories so that I could collect the date capturas?

Does meddling with people's lives for material gain sound like something an Orokin would do Roathe?

[tight pagoda]

<@&778745217037238293> lmao

Gamer propaganda is crazy

[craggy solstice]

✂️

[wanton flax]

Dam

[pastel pasture]

what i miss

what they say

[floral hawk]

just wah wah american gamer discrimination wah wah everybody contact the president and tell him to do sumn about it!!!!!! wah wah etc

[lucid peak]

anyone else get anathema’d by Roathe again??

[floral hawk]

#game-updates message

[lucid peak]

…well shoot

guess who just did her KIM conversations

[solid otter]

...her?

[solid otter]

Yk, it is odd. That fella looked like was typing that whole thing out

[frigid temple]

The ones we weren't supposed to touch because of the bug??? Same

[solid otter]

Some people genuinely think that way, I think

[frigid temple]

Did it mess up your relationships?

[lucid peak]

i guess so? i have anathema with Roathe now

[frigid temple]

Check all your other KIM status with the trio and Hex.

[lucid peak]

i’m best friends with the rest of the trio, i didn’t check my hex relationships

[frigid temple]

There's a bug with this new stuff that kinda messes up your relationships with everyone if you mess with the "new" KIM messages.

[obtuse gyro]

Does meddling with people's lives for material gain sound like something an Orokin would do

[frigid temple]

I got so excited for new KIM content, and actually saw a new message I'd never seen...and buggered it up.

[frigid temple]

Raise your hand if you've been personally victimized by the Orokin.

[supple leaf]

I just did it as I did not know of said bug but I am not sure if it gos to my cross play

[solid otter]

Me unfortunately. Cept. Would you call Nihil's demotion from being an executor to executioner the fault of an orokin if it was his own fault? Or would you call Albrecht being mucking complicated and causing me to lose sleep over his actions being victimised?

I get too invested with people.

[frigid temple]

I'd still count them as Orokin. That's how they've been identified for most of their very long lives.

[floral hawk]

Orokin Caches wont give me scimitar parts. i'm personally slighted

[frigid temple]

Ooh they honestly should give you more expensive prizes.

[young finch]

year of the horse, when am I going to be able to dash across a room in a sakura bakushin (prot)o frame?

[reef compass]

@supple dagger the engine has a finger, so it's the cephalon going ???? at it

[supple dagger]

Yes yes! A smokey substance that when you press it, a specific riddle will come

Especially this one, my favorite

"imagine a color that doesn't exist"

[solid otter]

Well. Do it. Look up what Olo is. And then look at the void.

[reef compass]

you can see inside the smoke that it indeed is a finger, and guess who's

that's also why you hear tapping

[solid otter]

These were made completely independent of each other. This is just a wild coincidence.

[floral hawk]

the teal!!! the 010 color

i love hearing about olo

[solid otter]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olo_(color)

Wild coincidence that Olo is so shockingly similar to the void. Note, this was not realised by me, rather by @balmy storm

[balmy storm]

[solid otter]

Sorry for the ping dawg, but gotta recognise the og

[balmy storm]

You’re good lol

It’s such a wild coincidence and I love it

[solid otter]

Delightful coincidence

[austere pond]

To fix that, you gotta beat roathe 21 times in the descendia. Get 21 voice messages. Unless it’s a new bug-

[supple dagger]

Wait.... So that's the Man in the Wall isn't it?

[supple dagger]

Ooooo

Well that's the thing

So in short the fuel is the void

But what does he mean by those riddles

Why it's so impossible?

[solid otter]

Well. Imagine it. Imagine something that doesnt exist

Its paradoxical

You can't imagine something that doesnt exist

By doing so, you made it exist

[supple dagger]

Ohhhhh

And base on the color you showed

That sounds like the void then

Not the man in the Wall (for some reason I thought of that)

[solid otter]

Exactly! Good job :)

The man in the wall is a very real thing.

Cy isnt aware of the man in the wall. Thats what he can't perceive, I feel

"Something touches me. Impossible."

[supple dagger]

Hmmm it's fascinating to think tbh

[solid otter]

Yeah, this aspect of warframe is my favourite

[supple dagger]

Warframe lore is beautifully paradoxical

[solid otter]

The man in the wall and all the shit he causes is wonderful.

He is genuinely a horrible person who acts incredibly predatory

But he is an interesting concept

[supple dagger]

Yup

[supple dagger]

Tbh Is there a color that gives the color olo?

[floral hawk]

I love the playing-with-incomprehensibility they do! if anything, the void reminds me of The Pale, disco elysium

[solid otter]

Nup. Closest we got is that colour on the Wikipedia page

[solid otter]

IVE BEEN MEANINGNTO GET INTO DISCO ELYSIUM

[supple dagger]

"A color you have never seen. Imagine it"

It's just sooooo cool of a line

[solid otter]

Also offtopic. Look at Loid's shoes

[floral hawk]

its wonderful and i LOVE the worldbuilding like no other

[solid otter]

Delightful shoes. 10/10, no notes

[floral hawk]

cute...

[supple dagger]

What are thoooose

[solid otter]

Well. 9/10. Can't figure out how he puts them on

[solid otter]

Ima look up a playthrough if my internet allows

[supple dagger]

With the void in his hands, I'm sure he just magically slap on it

[reef compass]

ngl I wonder why the use that tone of blue for the void

one would think they wouldve gone with magenta

[solid otter]

I mean. He does wield the Ekhein with incredible strength

[floral hawk]

i like the etherealness it gives out

[solid otter]

That man has the sleeper build

Teal is just an ethereal colour, compared to magenta I feel

[supple dagger]

True

[solid otter]

This also happened in doom. Actually

[floral hawk]

light and wrong, something that evokes otherworldliness

[solid otter]

Magenta is violent

Red and warm tones are violent

Cool tones are. Well. Colder. Detatched

[reef compass]

oh i just meant that cause its the "gap" color

the color exists but its between the lowest and highest frequencies

maybe they could also go with stuff like the greenest green x)

[floral hawk]

pinkest pink void

[reef compass]

...wonder if that's where they will go with the Jade stuff? maybe as an inverse even...?

[solid otter]

Jade's story has been completed

[reef compass]

no way

[solid otter]

Don't beat a dead horse.

[reef compass]

there's the son and that's not Dagath!

[solid otter]

I mean, i wouldn't call the son of hers, jade's story

Its orion's/sirius' story

[reef compass]

well legacy is a thing, in spirit, and it's kinda time maybe we got a positive spin to it

[floral hawk]

the father, the son, and, heh, well, she's a holy spirit now

[lofty girder]

Does that also apply to lyon...

[floral hawk]

the father, the father, the son, the holy spirit

[reef compass]

and ||all the brothers with empty eyes...||

[lofty girder]

The opposite of biblical angels kek

[tame canopy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URRtZpl6LHk
yoooo this is gonna be how our earth gets new ore like warframe

They got sources in their description, it looks legit lol

Our future generations are gonna be working in the plastic mines

[floral hawk]

i'm interested in what the hell did they do to break KIM so badly

added a script to check something to backtrack ranks as needed but they forgot one minor "WHERE [here]" and everything blew up?

[shut wagon]

Hey guys. Yet another KIM victim here. I might have some something wrong or it's a problem with the KIM in general.

About roathe.
I got the cutscene of him and Loid going upstairs at last... Before finishing 21 fights and before resolving his problem through the chat.
He even said so, yesterday. (Over chat)
I did some research and thought about it, but ultimately decided to reset the trio.

My question is: did I do something wrong? Am I missing something?
My two ideas would be that I have to do ALL 21 runs front to back, or date one of the trio, or both.
Or that some of my answers were less ideal. Maybe that too.

[worthy sleet]

roughly seems to be the case, which is even more painful now that the game seemingly doesn't know what to do and today my relationship with Marie went from Close to Neutral (allegedly I did something wrong (it was interacting with KIM)) and now it's back to Close but demanding me to get the Anathema (which is already done)

[native anchor]

I think its the same bug/problem some people are having with both Kim and Hex

[worthy sleet]

it very positively is, and I wrote about that here yesterday, kind of happy it wasn't just an issue for me which means it is going to hopefully get fixed sooner rather than later

[native anchor]

Lets hope they can fix sooner, because its one hell of a grind

Knowing you can only talk once in a day

[worthy sleet]

I certainly am not touching KIM as it was advised

it got too tangled to figure out exactly which way to go

[native anchor]

I will talk to only hex now

Until they know what happened

[worthy sleet]

well I think it's best to not talk to anyone

it feels too odd to touch any part of the system

especially since I've noticed some bits of the dialogue repeating

[shadow ivy]

Arthur and I were date but now Arthur loved to liked

[native anchor]

Same here with Aoi

[thick iron]

oh my god even my hex got reset. I was at best friends with them and I didn't even talk to them 😭

[native anchor]

You're right, I think it's better to wait until the DE says something about

[shut wagon]

Even roathe descendias?

[native anchor]

Some people are having problem with them too

[shut wagon]

I know I meant would it be wise to hold the descendia count until a solid fix was made?

[frigid temple]

It's crazy but some of the stuff with the KIM system stayed the same, but other things no? I was dating Arthur until we dropped to "liked" status. After 2 conv I'm "trusted". But a conversation with Quincy is like "oooh look at you and Arthur being lovebirds!" Are we or aren't we together??? Aoi is back to "liked", Eleanor and I are "best friends", Marie and Roathe still have the "ask to date" option while going up to Lyon is just the stuff he sells. It's weird how stuff got moved around.

All because I got excited to see a new conversation on the KIM. Lol whoops.

[wanton flax]

I'm glad I friend zoned everyone

[pastel pasture]

DE walking in to see how the KIM chat fix is doing

this image remains true for every KIM chat fix so just look at it again next update

[shadow ivy]

For real

[supple dagger]

I see, there is a character creation for the duvari paradox
But the default isn't the one in the cutscene hrmm

I think I successfully created the hero of today's journey

Hrmm... Why is there a child mirroring my moment(Duvari paradox spoiler)

[undone lodge]

Thats you

[cerulean kiln]

Have you done Second Dream?

[supple dagger]

no

[cerulean kiln]

Then leave Duviri

You’re playing the story backwards

[zenith jacinth]

Not really an option

[cerulean kiln]

Does Duviri have a lock?

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[zenith jacinth]

But yeah duviri paradox should be played much later

[cerulean kiln]

That’s the second most stupid thing to have for Duviri specifically

Locking people in stuff they won’t understand is silly

[supple dagger]

I am unsure if I can leave, there is no leave mission button and it auto played a cutscene before entering gameplay

[cerulean kiln]

You can send a ticket to leave

But if there’s a lock you’re stuck

[supple dagger]

I am unsure if support can help

[fringe pond]

You can leave the mission yeah

Either by leaving or forcequitting

[cerulean kiln]

They can help

Support can kick people out of quests

[fringe pond]

God they really need to change Duviri’s availability

The gameplay reasons make sense but the lore reasons don’t

[thick iron]

genuinely duviri should only be able to be done after new war, i remember I started duviri just because i had it available and I was so confused lol

i understand the circuit is really rewarding but like it is very jarring

[supple dagger]

I wonder if any of these duvari upgrades pass into the sol system?

Endurance and combat says that I get stuff in the origin system
Riding technically says I get a mount for open worlds however

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-volt-volt-prime-warframe-volt-spin-gif-27180701

[cerulean kiln]

They should just disconnect Circuit from the rest

Allow Circuit for frames

But lock the quest

It’s not hard to do lol

Make it like the 1999 demo

[supple dagger]

The leave button unlocks a little after the quest starts it seems

But you can leave the quest I am in the orbitor

[fringe pond]

The loot can be used for stuff outside of duviri, mainly weapons and the like

[supple dagger]

Well I mean if the loot didn't go to the origin why make us do this whole quest and resource grind in the first place. I assumed there were exclusive weapons/frames .

I meant the intrinsics itself.

[thick iron]

endurance and combat do as you said, i think kaithe ones also transfer? not sure though never levelled up riding LMAO

[supple dagger]

Kaithes do transfer however again counterpoint

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-volt-volt-prime-warframe-volt-spin-gif-27180701

[thick iron]

yeah i mena

no reason to use anything that isn't archwing in open world

[supple dagger]

Counterpoint
||https://youtu.be/WcTh9DGlC2I?si=myDmpl7Mzn0RotzW||

This is pretty cool way to travel

[thick iron]

motorcycles are definitely fun. i like to just drift around orb vallis because it's the only one with real roads

[deft mist]

Not mine but i found it funny

Its stupid how powerfull we are

[thick iron]

how does resetting the hex work if you're rank 5, and does resetting the hex also reset flare, kaya and minerva/velimir or are those separate (can't check in game rn)

[undone lodge]

To reset the Protos you go into part of the computer called the “Digital Grimoire”, and you select which groups (Hex, Round Table, Triad) you want to reset, but it goes on a 28 cooldown

But don’t do anything with them right now, KIMs broken

Rank 5 doesn’t change anything

[thick iron]

okay, i was asking mainly because my KIM got broken lmao

[pastel pasture]

rate my Sevagoth build

[zenith jacinth]

5/8

[indigo marten]

Am I the only one who got lettie chat broken? 💀

[zenith jacinth]

No

KIM chats broke last update

[indigo marten]

A

[native anchor]

The best thing we can do is dont talk with anyone and wait for a fix

[pastel pasture]

there is another solution

https://tenor.com/view/duviri-warframe-dominus-thrax-begin-again-spiral-gif-17147585142359123507

[jovial salmon]

im still praying for a fix thatll revert the mess up but idk. may have to reset

[solid otter]

Lord she looks so good

[shadow ivy]

I GOT MY ARTHUR BACK

THANKS UPDATE

[lucid peak]

i have done that, did it forever ago actually. it’s definitely new, but i’m not gonna worry about it

[covert dune]

Guys I saw there was a problem with the kim system, everyone is saying people are not getting a certain "Cutscene" but I don't know which one are they referring too. Is it the family reunion or a new cutscene?

[shadow ivy]

There's a new cutscene?

[covert dune]

That's what I'm asking. Idk if the "Cutscene problem" reffers to the family reunion or to a new cutscene that was added with new dialogues

[shadow ivy]

Oh?

[bold coral]

I'm aware that we got a KIM hotfix but... Roathe is still broken for me... (yes, I did beat him up 21 times)

I'm considering restarting the KIM messages because of this but idk if that would fix it...

[shadow ivy]

It's back, Lyon is calmer than both (im the one who made Marie and Roathe anathema)

[bold coral]

interesting..

[bold coral]

on another note, I am currently in a relationship with him, but because of this glitch I can't get the cutscene :'>

or any of the date capturas

[shadow ivy]

I never see that before

[bold coral]

it's been like this for about a month or more now..

I'd bug report it but I'm not sure where...

wait, I might be dumb, I found it

atlas, I can't seem to figure it out, I'm sorry ;-;

[zenith jacinth]

No new cutscene

[soft coral]

Uhh, anyone else's Kaya still broken? I think the fix broke her, she was best friends before but now she's associates

[honest lotus]

UNBLOCK MY WARFRAME ACCOUNT, I WANT TO PLAY

[soft coral]

Everyone else is fixed, it's just Kaya that's broken now

[bold coral]

having problems with her and Roathe..

[soft coral]

SPOILER FOR KAYA ENDING!
||She's still at the relay huh, must just be a text only bug||

[bold coral]

OH!! fun! :D

[soft coral]

Glad it seems to be just a surface bug, won't mess with anything though just to make extra sure

[bold coral]

this is what I have to deal with.. https://medal.tv/games/warframe/clips/m6CT8MQzVNzErEs9I?invite=cr-MSx3QnYsNDYwMzc5NDI4&v=43

been like this for around a month now.. :'T

[soft coral]

oh that's
yikes

It does seem to be just a text surface bug as well, do you still get his love lines and dates? Or no?

[bold coral]

I only get his love lines, no dates or kiss cutscene

[soft coral]

Damn...I hope it gets fixed for you soon :(
have you contacted support at all?

[shadow ivy]

Idk why someone chose the same as my color as my Chroma Prime (Purple and Yellow or gold) when I was OG made the color of it

[bold coral]

I have no idea how the support works :'T

yes, I've been reading though it, but it still doesn't make any sense to me

[soft coral]

https://support.warframe.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

You need to submit a request (I think that'll lead you to the correct page, I had to be logged in)

[bold coral]

ah I see, thank you

[soft coral]

You're welcome!! :D

[bold coral]

I hope posting this bug report in the forum helps..

[shadow ivy]

My chroma prime OG color before them

[bold coral]

pretty!!

and now we wait.. :'>

[uncut solar]

Did you know that they have an actual real railjack tutorial on this website?

[bold coral]

really?! interesting..

[soft coral]

If only we had more content to use said tutorial with,,,

sob_cry

[uncut solar]

https://support.warframe.com/hc/en-us/articles/38820115630093-Railjack

It even teaches you about the resource forge and ship layout

[bold coral]

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-kirby-magolor-kirby-gif-811429134785569246

i'll have a read through it, thank you

[uncut solar]

Have fun

[thorn fossil]

i was fine until this update because i turned on play all KIM convo, but the latest hot fix really messed my relationships up

[zenith jacinth]

<@&778745217037238293>

[boreal pewter]

what if Nitohk took over Tau?

[amber terrace]

I asked Lettie what brought her to Höllvania and I feel like no matter what option I choose I’m cooking the relationship

[opal ridge]

[solid otter]

Thats just lettie, give her time

[shadow echo]

@opal ridge so minuet told me that the codas are clones made from techrot made by the employers of the band, is that true? If so why would they do that and what happened to the original band?

[solid otter]

Yea, thats true. Can control them easier. Abuse them without the band speaking out

[opal ridge]

Original band probably got placed in chambers to have dna extracted
(Said dna became clones, then the techrot got their hands on it)

[solid otter]

We dont know what happened to the original

[solid otter]

Nah, it was hair stolen from hairbrushes

[shadow echo]

How do we know this?

[opal ridge]

Aoi moment

[solid otter]

Theres a computer in the mall

[shadow echo]

?

[amber terrace]

I messed up

Wait

Lettie is still in my backrooms, but KIM says she’s neutral to me???

Didn’t DE hotfix the KIM chats???

[opal ridge]

Uhhh behind Arthur I think

[mental ice]

What the...am replaying Old Peace today and noticed that in a scene where Operator finds downed shuttle and first introduces themselves it's "Tauron Academy M4-A", funny how the M4-A sounds similar to Mara, if you read the 4 as an A

[shadow echo]

Can't interact with it.

[amber terrace]

Okay, this is weird. In my orbiter it says Lettie is neutral with me, but in the backrooms, not only is Lettie there, the KIM system also says we’re together????

[opal ridge]

Oh maybe the backrooms computer then

[amber terrace]

I am violently confused

[shadow echo]

The one for the missions and KIM chats?

[opal ridge]

No it’s uhhh, lemme find it

[undone lodge]

the one in Aoi’s room

[opal ridge]

Oh that yeah

[shadow echo]

Where is Aoi's room?

[opal ridge]

Just fast travel to it

In hollovania

[shadow echo]

Oh wait, found it, misunderstood.

[opal ridge]

Oh damn that screen flare, i cant read it

[undone lodge]

Should be on the wiki

Or Orokin Archives

[opal ridge]

Here’s the referenced page

[shadow echo]

I just read them.

I want them to expand on this.

[opal ridge]

Too bad

[thick iron]

MY KIM IS BACK

thank you DE

[tight pagoda]

Definitely intentional

[balmy storm]

It’s a nod to Operator being names Mara in the script and ofc Mara Lohk

[jovial salmon]

knew i shouldnt have gotten my hopes up. my hex convos r still borked...

as well as the triad. rip me guess imma have to reset

[undone lodge]

Don’t do anything yet

Wait until things are actually fixed

And you’ll probably want to get a true-reset from DE, just in case

[thick iron]

sometimes i am reminded of how binary hex dialogue can be lmao

there is a clear wrong option here 😭

[misty veldt]

So I checked out the hex and now kaya is an associate even tho I helped her ||get to the future?||

[balmy storm]

KIM is broken atm

[misty veldt]

Ah. Diffrent thread got zapped then

Yay

[lethal vortex]

They haven't fixed everything with KIM, it says i'm on associates status with ||Kaya|| despite being on best friends status with her

Before the old peace update

Wait no, before the KIM bug

[harsh otter]

Are they for real? I successfully helped Nova time travel and they just messed everything up with some stupid patch

[zenith jacinth]

These complaints are getting old quick...

[harsh otter]

The fact that you can get bored about the complaints just means how badly they messed up

[lethal vortex]

||She still appears in the larunda relay during this bug of course if you had her on best friends before then||

[solid otter]

Idk why they decided to randomly overhaul the kim coding system

It functioned fine beforehand

Idk if they wanted to make it harder for the kimulacrum folk to crack - it didnt work. That shit was up within 2 days of release

Or like

[lethal vortex]

Knowing me i will continue to struggle getting on ||roathe's|| good side

[solid otter]

It was just too hard for the first system to deal with??

[harsh otter]

I feel like given that you can only interact once per day with each protoframe it makes it so that people go about interacting with KIM in a way that's - Do it once and forget it exists -. That's why Kimulacrum is so useful. Ain't no way i will waste couple of months of my life trying one dialogue at a time to get to my optimal/desired outcome

Especially since KIM is like the most broken thing in Warframe

[zenith jacinth]

No it just means ppl don't read bug notifs

[floral hawk]

nobody reads PSAs 😭 devs really need a better way of communicating because half of the bugged players either didn't know or found out late

[tight pagoda]

Yeah maybe a big error message on the KIM chat or something that just warns you

An unskippable 3 minute video upon launching the game where Pablo explains all currently known bugs

[floral hawk]

big png of a post it on the computer screen saying STAY AWAY!!! GET OUT!!!

This is not a place of honor etc etc

[zenith jacinth]

"Here be dragons"

[floral hawk]

unskippable, unmutable 3 minute video of pablo streaming his Visual Studio workspace explaining the kim bug

[floral hawk]

"Here be divorces"

[tight pagoda]

When you open the game a DE breaks down your door and forcibly straps you to a chair, using tape to keep your eyes open and straps to keep your head in place as they politely tell you about the bugs

[floral hawk]

they frame it as a personal Devstream session

kind of funny this went past QA though

like if i pushed this update i'd be having that cold chill down my spine

[median edge]

Right?

[tight pagoda]

If I had to guess, Zach's team is too busy play testing the newer content

Apparently every single member of that team played The Old Peace two times per day for quality assurance

[boreal cliff]

Yeah, that was a thing. Guess it still is a bug to not get Rank 6 rewards.
idek what they fixed... Sure looks like a whole heck of nothing, based off the current bug PSA thread.

[tight pagoda]

Accidentally cut Protea in half

[lusty portal]

on some cutscenes i think the face blend was turned off or something, so my face looked off, but this one stayed the same thankfully

[grave gale]

Its more realistic when people you like just ghost you outta nowhere imo

[feral barn]

So I just realized....the Lotus might be Corrupted by Wally since the end of the New War

Because in Old Peace, she saves us but her voice sounds distorted once, then you realize...it's Wally's voice overlapping hers

[cerulean kiln]

Nah, she’s actually holding him off after New War not corrupted

Holding a person off takes a toll

Inbox message:
The Visitor

Tenno,

None of us could hear the Device that was calling from the abyss of history. The Daughter of Hunhow heard it, and almost succumbed to its call. She raised her voice in song to drown it out, and that we did hear.

I should have known she was waiting for you.

You answered a call and in a way, found an answer. For me. The time is almost right to finish the Kalymos Sequence.

I will soon be able to send you to the city-state of Höllvania, in the plague year of 1999 – a most perilous time. Without your equipment, you would surely perish.

Luckily, the Vessels have a connection to Albrecht's "volunteers" that I believe I can exploit. You will not arrive unarmed, nor unarmoured.

We won't be late!

—Loid

[feral barn]

Yes but I think Wally is also corrupting her overtime, she herself said there's a force calling to her to do something, she wants to let it though she's fighting it off

[cerulean kiln]

Wally failed but he hasn’t given up

[feral barn]

Plus this is the only instance where the Lotus voice gets overlapped with Wally's

Yeah, so if she's not corrupted, she's definitely showing sighs of it starting

[solid otter]

... wally doesnt really. Corrupt people

And when he does, its not like that

Hell, if you even can call what Rulsalka is going through corruption

You need to have some deal made, or some extreme outside force (like us) to allow that

[floral hawk]

i guess one instance of corruption i can think of are the rogue necramechs?

[solid otter]

Ehh, the ones in the labs?

Those arent really corrupt, iirc those went rogue from wally being able to appear as allies

Can't differentiate between the two visually

Dumb machines and all

[floral hawk]

i vaguely remember someone saying they were whispering [something related to wally]

will try to dig it out

[solid otter]

... you sure that aint parvos?

[floral hawk]

i know that one's from uhhh Drusus, about how [someone] heard Parvos talking voidtongue

still looking, but, hah, peep this

[floral hawk]

ah, yeah, you're right

[undone lodge]

Theres also that one cult

It was on like, Mars or Phobos

[floral hawk]

cult for the void?

[undone lodge]

No Wally

There was like some, mining colony or something

Went crazy and tried to dig to Deimos or something

Got mentioned in a Nora transmission I think?

[floral hawk]

oop, got it https://www.warframe.com/news/transcription-of-unauthorized-broadcast-attributed-to-try-again-slick

[feral barn]

I'm late to the convo, just read everything but I want to place one of my doubts, Wally does cast his influence on to others even if there's no deal made, it's something that festers over time and could lead to him show sighs he's there when certain wants align, right?

[solid otter]

He can isolate and alienate, but he generally cannot corrupt like how you are saying.

The lotus is in fact, not alone

She is cared for, by us, maybe the drifter, loid

Wally's method of getting folk to accept deals is heavily reliant on the isolate and alienate aspect

Thats why love is so strong against him - harder to do that

[feral barn]

True, but it is obvious she's still taking a significant toll on herself that allows Wally to talk to/through her, even if little amounts

And she herself as expressed difficulties in saying no to Wally, perhaps because her mind is fragmented

[solid otter]

Id wager that her fragmented mind is what is keeping her from wally

Those are permanently 2 other people with her

Something something self acceptance something something

[feral barn]

Could be that too, but it could also be it's own vulnerability since her mind is more subjective to others

[solid otter]

While im not gonna deny there hasnt been a significant hit to her mental health regarding Wally

I wouldn't go as far as corruption, not like someone like Parvos or whatever

[feral barn]

If we are gonna see her crumble due to what shes dealing with, I want to see the Drifter and Operator bring her back from the brink without the need to fight, just being there for her

[solid otter]

Im more concerned over why theres murmur-esque music in. I think.... uh lemme check

[feral barn]

Void theme music always means Wally is pulling some strings

Or that he's around to some capacity

[solid otter]

Executor. Its in the executor track

Doesnt that play when. We first see Ballas?

[feral barn]

I can't check it right now, but I'll check when I can

The first time we see Ballas as the player is when he first takes Lotus

Will need to check the cutscene

In Old Peace, just being around Ballas, even without knowing it's him as the Void themed music

[solid otter]

NAH NOT

In the old peace exclusively lol

The executor is an old peace track

[feral barn]

Oh, then we get Void themed music while protecting him and I think a little when it's revealed we just saved his ass

I'm not too sure though

[lofty girder]

Maybe its for us

[solid otter]

Yuppers, murmur-esque music is identifiably different to sentient music, despite the vaguely similar naming conventions

[lofty girder]

We're subconsciously letting wally in out of sheer hatred of balsac

[solid otter]

Murmur has a lot of. Throaty sounds?

[feral barn]

It's Void Tongue

[solid otter]

Like voca

[lofty girder]

Mongolian throat singing

[solid otter]

Yeah but I cant identify any known voidtongue

I may be deaf tho

[lofty girder]

Ala doom eternal...

DE, get Mick Gordon to make a soundtrack

[solid otter]

Side effect of how voidtongue just sounds

[feral barn]

Void Tongue when it's Wally is very aggressive, almost deafening in a way

[solid otter]

NO. GOD NO. THAT MAN HAS TBE MOST INSUFFERABLE FANBASE.

[lofty girder]

But warframe version of Rip and Tear

[feral barn]

When it's the Sentients it's a bit calmer and coordinated

[solid otter]

Id rather Andrew hushult

[lofty girder]

We can beat the insufferability via kindness and gay

[feral barn]

The fan base is bad, but the music and artist aren't so bad

[solid otter]

Oh for hells sake can you name another song from either eternalnor 2016 he did thats not TOTTFIY and rip and tear?

Lord at least appreciate his other shit 😭

[feral barn]

XD

[solid otter]

Oh. God. Sometimes i hate that he's Australian.

[feral barn]

To be fair, from his soundtrack, there's a good portion of music I don't enjoy, I prefer more of the Dark Ages soundtrack over Eternal and 2016

[solid otter]

Im morally obligated to like him

[solid otter]

SAME.

Apotheosis.... between hex and flame....

TAG and TDA have such a unique sound

[feral barn]

It's not to say he makes bad music, it's just a preference because I can tell he's really talented and pours himself into his music

[solid otter]

Unique to the doom series, not. As a whole

I bought vinyls for TDA's soundtrack and apparently they broke in American customs, because. I guess it needs to go through America to Australia????

[feral barn]

Wow, that sucks

Hope you got a refund

Or a replacement

[solid otter]

Replacement, these are limited edition ones so. I do want them

[feral barn]

Noice

[solid otter]

They called it ah. What's the term. Act of god?

Weird American stuff

[feral barn]

Weird indeed

[solid otter]

I am. Unsure of why religion comes up in legal terms outside religious groups and their own stuff, but here we are

[feral barn]

By the way, next story update is Tau right? Or at least the new galaxy system?

[solid otter]

Nah, its shadowgrapher

March, thats the next story update

[feral barn]

Noted

[solid otter]

It is. Similar to techrot encore

So its not gonna be huge levels of stuff

I am immensely excited for Follie

I love the idea of a sad clown frame

[feral barn]

I don't mind it, gives is more to play and more plat to farm

[solid otter]

I love clowns

[feral barn]

I want her animation sets

[solid otter]

Especially sad clowns

[feral barn]

First time I see someone love clowns amd specifically sad ones

[solid otter]

The world is full of scary clowns, we need more sad clowns

[solid otter]

My second drama teacher was a clown 😭

[uncut solar]

I liked his Killer Instinct ost :(

[solid otter]

Ive. Ive had 3

[feral barn]

Damn

[solid otter]

He comes over for family dinner sometimes

[feral barn]

That's nice, type of teacher you enjoy having around

[solid otter]

Im on. Personal terms with a clown holy shit

[uncut solar]

Imagine needing another person

I just look into a mirror

[solid otter]

I have my mirrors covered

Im scared of mirrors. Especially when its dark

[uncut solar]

Kind of hilarious how immediately after being booted off Doom, he tweeted microsoft asking to revive the series

Even though he got booted off Killer Instinct dlc as well

[solid otter]

HA

[feral barn]

Bad experience or just unconditional fear?

[solid otter]

Sorry. Thats mean

[feral barn]

It's funny, but also really shows he truly loves his works and the projects he's in

[solid otter]

Hyperactive imagination.

Its a horrible thing

Irrationally scared of the dark

[feral barn]

Oof, same boat, though I don't need a mirror-

[cerulean kiln]

Afraid of mirrors or afraid of reflection in mirror?

[solid otter]

The reflection? Im scared I wont be myself

Ih wow. Im Albrecht fr

[feral barn]

That's not irrational, that's basic instincts

[solid otter]

I know there's nothing in the dark

But. What if there isnt and theres something there

And when I look into the mirror when its dark, will there be something behind me?

Shadows arent fun

[cerulean kiln]

I prefer the dark because when it is dark there’s less light and as the closest thing to a vampire the sun hurts

[solid otter]

Theres a lot of. Horror media about reflections

[feral barn]

Again, basic instinct, we don't see in the dark, our instincts don't like being deprived of sight

[cerulean kiln]

I can see in the dark

[feral barn]

You can barely see in the dark

[solid otter]

I have my light, often using. Fanfic to light my halls at night

I still cant go outside in the dark

Grown ass man

I dont even know what im really scared of, people? Maybe

Animals are fine, I can deal with an animal

[feral barn]

I can walk in the dark, but I don't like it, I'm always looking over my shoulder or putting myself against a wall

[solid otter]

Or having your ears do that. That thing where they listen harder

I do really want to be able to draw what I fear about mirrors

I want to apply it to wally

I want to be able to visualise the fear of a reflection in wally

[cerulean kiln]

Wally in the mirror

[feral barn]

I can sorta control that

[cerulean kiln]

It’s funny how Drifter can enter the mirror

[solid otter]

Do some analogue horror shit and

Hold on. Tumblr post about Roathe time

[feral barn]

XD

[solid otter]

NO ITS RELEVANT

[feral barn]

I know, but it was such a turn xD

[solid otter]

... does this place like tumblr

I forget what links are okay

[feral barn]

Not sure

[solid otter]

||https://www.tumblr.com/nephiieatsuranium/806194343669088256/oh-no?source=share||
Spoilered bcs Roathe is kinda spooky, but this sorta shit is what im afraid of when I look in the mirror

the amaurot dumpsite™️

oh, no!...

Tumblr · Jan 19, 2026, 6:20 PM

Oh! Yippie

Guy they gotta exorcise

[cerulean kiln]

For a while Orokin Archives was blocked in this server

[feral barn]

Valid, I sorta see that type of thing a lot in myself, but I've grown used to it

[solid otter]

Yeah. Thats. Somehow unsurprising

[cerulean kiln]

I think Juice unblocked it though

[solid otter]

I dont get used to it, i dont think i will. But yeah, imagine that but like. Wally??

Wally possession but its that

Its that and not just some mild "hey kiddo"

[solid otter]

Yay!! I like juice.

[zenith jacinth]

-#

[feral barn]

It'd be sick to see that happen in Warframe again, leaning in more on the horror aspect again

We had similar in War Within

[solid otter]

Well shadowgrapher is supposed to be more horror based, I think?

Im just glad I got sad clown rep

If i was a clown id be a sad clown

[feral barn]

If that's the case, that's great, because I think Warframe is usually at its best when leaning in on the horror and heavy topics

Though that's due to all the positive moments we get to balance it out

[undone lodge]

I mean there’s plenty of people with DID and plural-thingy IRL and they aren’t just, inherently vulnerable to manipulation

[feral barn]

Yeah, but in Lotus case her mind was literally broken into pieces to the point she was as good as a mindless husk at one point, even when we started repairing her, she was extremely vulnerable to mental attacks that would take control over her

[median edge]

Ehhh, I wouldn't say being traumatized makes you inherently more vulnerable

I agree with Rodney, I would say after she awakens she kinda is in a different ball park than before

Ppl with DID/OSDID are literally broken into pieces at some point, that's kinda the whole thing. But I can kinda see what you're saying that it could affect her differently but I don't think it's that simple.

This isn't relevant to anything it's just my favorite lil meme about them lol

💢 yes rap tap tap was literally my reaction to the first quest where he won't stfu in saying it

[floral hawk]

QUIET MARIE I'M TRYING TO KILL THE H-09 APEX TANK IN STEEL PATH

I DONT HAVE TIME TO KISS MY BUILDS ARE STILL SHIT

[pastel pasture]

She loves you and this is how you treat her? I'm telling Reb

[frigid temple]

Awwww how come we don't get cute date stuff with the Hex???

[undone lodge]

Its the replacement for the New Years Kiss

[frigid temple]

It's probably been discussed already here, but what did you guys think of Roathe's conversation about || Drifter fighting the Operator? ||

[pastel pasture]

the hex isn't cute that's why. we only get tough stuff like kissing and beating up zombies

[zenith jacinth]

a joking hypothetical

[zenith jacinth]

we will if the triadates are well received

[pastel pasture]

i think hex dates are a bit limited

Like where can they even go?

various rooms in the underground mall....various locations in hollvania tilesets....

[zenith jacinth]

most of the triad dates also make no sense so

[pastel pasture]

the only one i think makes little sense is the Duviri one

everything else makes sense

[zenith jacinth]

-# ok tbf I don't have any of them yet lol I just know there's duviri ones and lyon has one in the vala glarios musical

[pastel pasture]

ok ill count that one too

but the rest are places that we could realistically take the triad to given they don't have the same restrictions the hex do

like is it perfectly realisitic we could take Roathe to a murex and have it be peaceful? not perfectly but you could just say it's one of the derelict ones

I guess technically other people can get to Duviri but like...

eeeh

[fair sable]

GEH I was hoping that the KIM hotfix would've helped, but it sems I'm back to square 1. ||Marie's conversation regarding reuniting Loid with the rest of the family STILL hasn't triggered.||

[frigid temple]

I was kinda hoping it was hinting at a possible future storyline. Especially since he was saying he thinks Lotus is out of whack and possibly corrupted. A battle between the two, and knowing the numbers each would have on their side...seems kinda crazy. Makes it hard to trust Roathe because he mentioned that he just may have had the same convo with the Operator.

[zenith jacinth]

highly unlikely

like, how would that work mechanically

the two can't even exist in reality at the same time

I'm not trying to come off as mean btw, I just realized my tone

[fair sable]

Drifter and Operator existed simultaneously during Lotus Eaters and that brief conversation in the New War. Still... not sure how or why that happened.

[frigid temple]

Drifter vs Operator? Good point. No offense taken. It definitely helps me see the bigger picture if I discuss it. I just kinda jumped at his mention of Operator has like 100 Tenno buddies, who will all jump in if Lotus says "go". No questions asked. Even if Wally is influencing her. Drifter has 13 proto frames to back them up. Kinda scary odds. But was wondering if that might be something that happens one day.

[frigid temple]

So then where is Operator when you go into the pool and dive into Roathe's memories I wonder?

[cerulean kiln]

Void pocket

[zenith jacinth]

in the void

[zenith jacinth]

lotus eaters: they can briefly exist together in the void
new war: they were swapping places, signified by the glowing effects

[frigid temple]

"back to your void pocket. I need to use the memory pool."

[floral hawk]

lotus said its MY turn on the traumatic memory digging pool!

[frigid temple]

SIGN ME UP for learning more about Lotus' backstory. Tell us everything space mom!

LOID POP THE POPCORN 🍿

[zenith jacinth]

we kinda already know everything

[frigid temple]

I'm cool with more detail lol

[tight pagoda]

She replaced her eyes with ears

[uncut solar]

The resemblance is uncanny

[rough solstice]

[tight pagoda]

I love it when I can line up the calendar with the actual date

Also celebrating Valentine's Day by uniting Lizzie with Flare

[hearty pendant]

evil /s

[solid otter]

Let me join. LET ME JOIN-

[fringe pond]

Im all ears lookin ahh

[fringe pond]

Why do you wanna be subsumed 😭

[zenith jacinth]

W h a t

[novel notch]

So anyone know what the inscription on inaros sacred vessel is supposed to be? cause I have no idea what I'm supposed to look for. Any hints please 🙏

[zenith jacinth]

Inscription?

Oh the quest thing

[zenith jacinth]

Just look it up on the wiki

[novel notch]

Ah. I was trying not to completely cheat with the wiki. I just can't figure out what it's supposed to look like.

[hearty pendant]

its one of three enemies, can't tell which one without an image

[zenith jacinth]

It's a ranfomized thing so

Gog damnit grey

[novel notch]

Ahhhh I see. Is it confined to Mars or just wherever?

[zenith jacinth]

Wherever

[novel notch]

Ok thank you!(^3^)♡

[tight pagoda]

There's 3 stages

I think first phase is super common enemies of either faction, so ||Corpus Crewmen, Grineer Lancers or Infested Chargers||, second phase are more uncommon ones but still fairly easy to find

And third are annoying rare

||Bursa Moa, Grineer Manics, and Infested Juggernauts||

Can't remember the second phase's enemies unfortunately

[novel notch]

That's good to know it goes up in rarity. Thanks 😊

[solid otter]

IF IT MEANS I CAN BE WITH FLARE THEN SO BE IT

[rare ginkgo]

I've come across a weird thing. Started dating one of the Hex (via a KIM chat choice specifically), but the KIM marks us only as "close," does it wait to overwrite only when you hit the "best friends" rank? She isn't showing up in the backroom apartment either. Speaking to the Hex member in the mall gives the option to break up, and voiced dialogue and KIM convos have the "dating" version activated.

[hearty pendant]

yeah, loved is an alternate for best friends
it'll wait until then to update + move in

[solid otter]

Mm. Is this the current bug or is it just not there yet?

[hearty pendant]

but yea KIM is also super bugged and it may not be the best idea to interact with it

[solid otter]

Genuinely no clue why they decided to change how they coded KIM

[rare ginkgo]

dang, lol, I was kinda hoping it was just the pile of frenches that were bugged. what a time for me to do this 'ae.

[solid otter]

Yeah, nah

Hex got caught in the crossfire

[hearty pendant]

it was just the triad, now its infected the others as well

[solid otter]

Maybe cuz of the consent convos??

[rare ginkgo]

😁🔫 joy

[hearty pendant]

nah, hit the roundtable too

[solid otter]

I wonder if those are coded in the way the triad is or the hex are

[hearty pendant]

it was something to do with attempting to resolve the reunion by replaying some convos i think

[rare ginkgo]

well luckily I find the entire triad completely unboinkable so hopefully I'm safe the-- oh come on the roundtable too? they were annoying to 100%.

[solid otter]

Shit really? Thank god for Kimulacrum helping me finish the others before the old peace dropped

[solid otter]

Fair, only one I really gaf about is Lyon

[rare ginkgo]

they broke my Kaya are you muckin' augh

[solid otter]

Roathe. I want to skin him alive. Marie, I wanna punch (in all fairness though, I want to at least yell at Tagfer for what he said)

[hearty pendant]

my best guess (with no proper code knowledge, much less about whatever the hell is going on in KIM) is that replaying the convos reduced the rank appropriate to those convos, but it managed to hit the ranks of every KIM chat instead of just the triad member it was meant to

[solid otter]

Lyon is a bit of a nothing burger and I like it

He is just kinda there

[rare ginkgo]

...okay that's weird, it says Kaya failed in my KIM chats, but she's still there on Larunda? Hm.

[hearty pendant]

could be a visual bug on the KIM side, or it never checks to remove her unless you reset

[solid otter]

Doesnt she still get there if you fail? Thought she did
-# maybe that was a bug

[rare ginkgo]

My rank with her has been knocked down to "associates" too

[solid otter]

Wait. No. She'd just have to get there anyways for Flare to become temple, nvm its lore not actual gameplay stuff that made me think this

[hearty pendant]

only if you succeed
she stays trapped in 1999 if you avoid the correct answer in one convo four times fail her chats

[rare ginkgo]

that's... extremely annoying, DE.

[solid otter]

Heh

God I hate the triad.

[rare ginkgo]

been nothing but issues since they've been mucking added

do we have any time frame for when they're gonna be done screwing with KIM? Looks like I need to fix my Roundtable now, too.

[hearty pendant]

i'd hope its fixed by march for shadowgrapher

[solid otter]

The consent convos are dogwater, why are we, as the drifter, helping Roathe redeem himself, let him get forgiveness from us or whatever when. Outside being a huge ass to us, hasnt really done anything that warrants "forgiveness" from us (the drifter)?????

Marie is. Just mucking bait, but hey, they made it hard to romance her

Lyon is cool, but we kinda knew that the protoframes are connected to their helminth strain, didn't we? And outside of "OMG ITS RELL " I struggle to find a reason to his existence

Oh and that wally can change memories. Which... we learn from Isleweaver and the first part of the old peace

I do like how marie forces a perspective for Albrecht not being a evil irredeemable idiot, but its generally ineffective

[uncut solar]

Game kind of nudges you with the status messages to do something about it, she's also extremely obnoxious about her faith

[solid otter]

Had folk try to say him uh. kneeling to talk to her while she was in a wheelchair was manipulation because he uh. Knew she had daddy issues

He didn't know. He had no way of knowing

[hearty pendant]

he attempts to rewrite duviri during isleweaver, but i don't see where he's interfering during the old peace
not the quest, at least. he's doing shenanigans later based on lotus dialogue, though

[solid otter]

Yeah wait no its a line in the mission after the quest, wally has messed with the memories of the Operator, iirc? "The indifference tampered with your memory" or smthn similar said by the lotus

I know it exists im not schizo help

[balmy storm]

The Murmur attack at one point and we defend the refractory but he doesn’t interfere during the memory portions, every time he appears in the memories it’s a memory of him

[hearty pendant]

no i remember this being brought up before it released, when we were going off of a 360p screenshot from tennocon or a devstream or something

[solid otter]

Oh!

[rare ginkgo]

Oh wow Roundtable's shorter than I remember, 'ae?

[solid otter]

Yay :D

[rare ginkgo]

I remember their first way through being like a mucking Fantasy epic

[solid otter]

You might’ve had all convos on

[rare ginkgo]

I mean even with all convos

[hearty pendant]

some of Flare's convos are long
half of MinVel convos are long
Kaya's are fairly short, with few exceptions
but overall they have like 3 convos per rank, yeah

[solid otter]

Which, have on for when you do the triad btw

[rare ginkgo]

it's like... itsybits

[solid otter]

OH YOU MEAN LENGTH OF INDIVIDUAL CHATS

[rare ginkgo]

no I mean like-- hang on

[solid otter]

Wow my brain is not wanting to work today

[hearty pendant]

doesn't it basically force all convos for the roundtable? i swear 90% of their convos end with "Next Convo will be <this>"

[balmy storm]

I miss just talkin science with Kaya

[solid otter]

Oh, what??

[rare ginkgo]

that's like... less than 20 chats

that's Not Very Damn Many

[solid otter]

Yeah

[hearty pendant]

damn i fr got '3 chats per rank' correct huh

[solid otter]

They are kinda just an addition to the hex

[rare ginkgo]

compared to schloggin' back through the Hex.

which dgmw I'm enjoying

[solid otter]

The hex establishes the world, thats why theyre so. Long

[rare ginkgo]

I did wanna 100% them, or close enough to it

got my square spagget

[solid otter]

Meanwhile the roundtable is just characters added onto that world

[rare ginkgo]

got my full dnd game

etc.

[solid otter]

The triad is longer for the same reason as the hex i feel

Oh and thst they cant write the damn thing shorter, genuinely hated interacting with roathe

[rare ginkgo]

also gotta say on playthrough 2? Holy Shit is Aoi's entire chat very... HR-y.

[solid otter]

... human resources....?

[rare ginkgo]

yeah like

[solid otter]

Sterile?

[rare ginkgo]

the way every message is worded sounds so-- yeah sort of

it's so corpo stepford

[solid otter]

Forced quirkiness

Thats how what I feel it is

[uncut solar]

I was working in HR i knew a person like her

[solid otter]

Even though she has that chat that says she isnt a manic pixie girl trope, she is very much, the manic pixie girl trope

[lofty girder]

Tbf, its 99, Aoi would have been the original uwu girl

[rare ginkgo]

oh her dialogue isn't bad

[uncut solar]

What a coincidence

[rare ginkgo]

that's not what I mean

[lofty girder]

The progenitor

[rare ginkgo]

here's a random example I plucked.

[uncut solar]

That's what a manic pixie girl would say(?)

[rare ginkgo]

like 9/10 replies from drifter sound like sanitised corpo garbage

[solid otter]

Mm. Looking at it with the worst in mind, kind of ai-esque

[rare ginkgo]

if someone messaged me that, I'd assume they were being a shitass to me

[solid otter]

Which would be disappointing, but not the first time ai wouldve been near the kims

[uncut solar]

She was stealing office supplies

[lofty girder]

Based?

[rare ginkgo]

wait, really? I thought they hired like, An Actual Romance Writer for this crap

[solid otter]

Most normal thing ive seen a IR over

[uncut solar]

In a completely different context though

[solid otter]

They did, i was moreso meaning the random RU translator that used ai lol

[uncut solar]

Commissioned work with no real quality assurance being possible

[solid otter]

I feel as if this being from a romance writer makes it a lot worse

[rare ginkgo]

aaaah.

[solid otter]

But. Given what that woman writes, not shocking.

[uncut solar]

Lol

[solid otter]

Dark romance slop with no actual nuance, from the reviews

[uncut solar]

Dark romance?

[solid otter]

Abuse. Abuse glorified.

[uncut solar]

Ouch

[solid otter]

Not all writers are like that

But the vast majority lack the ability to go "no kidnapping a woman is actually bad and why would this character find this remotely hot"

Poor fanfic, basically.

[lofty girder]

Where's the meme of the statistics suggesting women are the main audience of borderline abuse romance

Also, random reminder that 50 shades of grey was written by a woman as a twilight "no magic" AU fanfic

[solid otter]

Yeah, which

[balmy storm]

You keep saying that but what even happens

[solid otter]

Ight hold on

[balmy storm]

Ik you didnt read it since you just went off reviews so like

[uncut solar]

Office supplies get stolen

[solid otter]

What's her name again? I genuinely cannot spend time for that woman

My brain has more important things to hold onto

[tame canopy]

Random question but do we know anything about kaya's backstory and her feelings on becoming a protoframe?

Im musing over my chats with her and honestly she's really blaisé about the whole thing and I don't recall that being divulged, even when you essentially maxed her rank and get her to figure out time travel

Of all the roundtable, iirc she's the only one that doesn't go into it, not even a lil

[hearty pendant]

only thing we really get is that she found albrecht and talked with him for a bit, iirc

[balmy storm]

There’s her backstory from when she was at school

[tame canopy]

ok, fair enough on that one, but it's a bit odd for kaya to be the only one whose circumstances for being a protoframe isn't really elaborated upon

There's gotta be a period between kaya getting the serum, then kaya meeting albretcht again for his time travel tips

[hearty pendant]

probably happened at the same time
chatting + serum after she found him

[solid otter]

Sorry, deleted everything I typed, this woman doesnt put trigger warnings on the book series that features the most. Assault???? Which i feel is common sense i feel?? Thats why i tolerate Ao3, cuz at least you can filter out the shit you dont wanna see. I automatically dislike her even more now, christ.

Like. You are gonna pick this book series up, from maybe the library, maybe the bookstore, and you're gonna get flashbanged by THAT.

[slow wedge]

Scariest bug So far, I was doing a No HUD replay of old peace for cinematic clipping and this bug happened. I was panicking in the video lmao

[tight pagoda]

This is that rapid adaptation they were talking about huh

[floral hawk]

the panicked shooting paired with the really dramatic music and cinematic no-HUD really makes this video

[uncut solar]

Mitosis

[zenith jacinth]

Mitosis
Mitosis

[fringe pond]

Nah they sent the Hunhulli after you dude

[slow wedge]

I know T_T

[slow wedge]

Thanks, I guess It worked then xD

I really didn't know which hunhullus to shoot at so I was just scrambling by trying not to die

[undone lodge]

Mitosis
Mitosis
Mitosis
Mitosis

[zenith jacinth]

o 0 8 oo

[median edge]

Aoi ily I'm so sorry they keep using sexist tropes to describe you, I love you quirky queen

[uncut solar]

What are you talking about?

Did I miss something

[solid otter]

Going on about how manic pixie girl is a misogynist trope.

[uncut solar]

Is it?

[solid otter]

Its like saying tumblr gay is homophobic imo

[undone lodge]

Tf is tumblr gay

[solid otter]

Theyve never shown any supporting argument to it

[solid otter]

Me. Im a tumblr gay

[median edge]

Not at all even close to the same thing lmfao

[undone lodge]

Is that like, being specifically attracted to those tumblr sexyman things

[uncut solar]

I thought "manic pixie girl" just generally means an eccentric high energy female character

[solid otter]

NO. GOD NO

[uncut solar]

And that's quite literally it

[solid otter]

Id rather die than be associated to those people

I like my bears thank you

[undone lodge]

Fun fact. Theres a wholeass wiki for it

[solid otter]

Mm. Harry du Bois.....

[uncut solar]

Am I wrong?

[solid otter]

Thats all i know it for?

All I know is that my sister is. Very obviously one and she's just. Annoying

[undone lodge]

I remember me and some friends accidentally found it. And they specifically excluded a single castmember from the game we found it through for some reason 😭

[solid otter]

HA

[undone lodge]

It even had random side characters

[solid otter]

Random guess, its a hoyoverse (thats the name right?) game? I have my own opinions on that whole genre

[obtuse gyro]

not just that, iirc a core aspect is that shes there to serve the main male protagonist alone

[median edge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manic_Pixie_Dream_Girl

[undone lodge]

It even had the character who doesn’t even have a specified gender or anything beyond a vague body shape under baggyish clothes

[obtuse gyro]

theres now several variences, for different races and genders too

[obtuse gyro]

such as one that I racially cannot say but it starts with "Magical"

exact same mechanic

a flat character that just imparts things to the main male character and is thusly expended

[undone lodge]

Limbus Company from Project Moon

Wait you mean Hoyo or Gacha in general?

[uncut solar]

Oh god, you reminded me.

This is an official piece of promotional material for the game

[solid otter]

Yeah. Disco Elysium. What... a curious game.

[undone lodge]

What in the Viggle Cephalon

[solid otter]

I had come to the realisation that Roathe is just (somehow) a worse Harry Du Bois

[obtuse gyro]

Roathe is a worse rock star?

[uncut solar]

Roathe's summons are just his inner voices

[undone lodge]

Oh my god

They’re even both in France

Or a french colony in DEs case? Idr too well

[uncut solar]

Thanks for clarification. I shall not commit that mistake again

[solid otter]

From my limited perspective, there is. The aspect of the amnesia and the whole. "I don't want to be this kind of animal anymore", which i feel as if that aligns to Roathe

[median edge]

""Manic Pixie Dream Girl" had frequently been deployed in ways that are sexist and had become as much of a cliché as the trope itself. Rabin acknowledged that the phrase has its uses in specific, limited contexts, but overwhelming popularity had limited its effectiveness. Rabin concluded by saying that the term should be "put to rest""

"In July 2013, Kat Stoeffel, for New York, argued that the term has its uses, but that it has sometimes been deployed in ways that are sexist."

"I think that to lump together all individual, original quirky women under that rubric is to erase all difference."

"this once-useful piece of critical shorthand has devolved into laziness and sexism".

In the response section in case y'all don't want to click thru

[uncut solar]

Yeah I clicked, was just reading it

Sorry for a late reply

[obtuse gyro]

arent they in Gaulle?

[uncut solar]