spoiler-chat

[zenith jacinth]

one of them might be, I lost count

[thick jolt]

Lol

[proper ermine]

yaaas

[unreal spruce]

how tf do i run away from Archon like in first stealth mission of the New War?
I'm weaving and stuff but it would just one shot me from the start lmao

nvm, ran away :)

[weary wyvern]

:] Congrats

[glossy pivot]

Heya guys!
How are you, how your health?

[shadow forum]

Just understand pattern that some archon bosses appear behind you, so always jump around and hide.

So you can counter attack sentients.

[unreal spruce]

ok i just went from fight with boreal
half of it was me screaming "STAHP HEALING BRUH"

[cerulean kiln]

You could easily stop him healing though

[unreal spruce]

how tho? i was shooting and shooting and did 0 damage, switched to pistol, same thing

[thick jolt]

Pretty sure you need to get into the dome and then shoot

Forgot what were the hints hunhow gave

[unreal spruce]

ain't the dome was supposed to be deadly?
like when he did the screech

[thick jolt]

Ah need to use smoke screen

"Close in unseen"

[unreal spruce]

ok i didn't tried that
could've saved me around 20 mins of the fight like damn

hope the other two aren't healing, i remember wolf one can clone himself and snake one has paralyzing glare and you need to turn away...
i'mma research hints later

[unreal spruce]

DANKE

[thick jolt]

These are the other hints he spoke of in the same cutscene

Yeah can be hard to remember everything

[soft pumice]

LOVE IT

[woven turtle]

That's fantastic 😂

[half light]

don't think i've seen that one, is that a dr who reference ?

https://tenor.com/view/fantastic-ninth-doctor-gif-22744900

[balmy storm]

Me when a british person says fantastic

[molten girder]

YESSS

[half light]

they made some british references with the 2 of them 😭

eleanor talks about the shag cannons

[zenith jacinth]

where is the reference supposed to be??

[half light]

read arthur's last sentence, then see the gif i sent after my sentence

[zenith jacinth]

is it a reference to say fantastic now

[tight pagoda]

Yeah, "Fantastic" is used exclusively by Doctor Who and the Brits

[cedar herald]

As a Brit I'm here to say....

FANTASTIC!!!

[steep totem]

My flying warframe is Jade
I'm... rather curious how that conversation would go

[soft pumice]

bullet jumps up to grab the keys that was ez

[rain otter]

She more floats.

[steep totem]

Zephyr is the floating one
Jade may not be as fast as Titania (Razorwing Blitz or not), but she definitely flies

Besides, she's definitely faster than Hildryn

[rain otter]

Zephyr flies with her 1.

[steep totem]

...you call that flying?

[tight pagoda]

I'd say Zephyr's and Hildryn's is closer to hovering

Hang on, have we got any male Warframes that fly? Closest thing I can think of is Wukong's cloud

[steep totem]

No, I don't believe we do

DE's got work to do, then

[rain otter]

Closest thing I do is make Flare Fly.

[tight pagoda]

Flare's non-binary, not male, but I guess the question probably could've been "Are there any Warframes besides female ones that fly?"

[steep totem]

How do you manage that?
Aside from a Rad proc during Stage Defense and a ragdoll melee

[merry quartz]

Isn't Flare a guitar ?

[tight pagoda]

Lizzie's the guitar, Flare is the ProtoFrame

[merry quartz]

I mixed the two of them then

[rain otter]

Oh I can't just thought it was really funny to say.

[rain otter]

Flare/temple is the frame Lizzie is the guitar. Flare/Temple goes by they/them Lizzie the infested guitar that can see through all of time is she/her.

[merry quartz]

Makes sense

[tight pagoda]

I'll do the Techrot Encore tracks after this

[covert tree]

1999 has such good music

[tight pagoda]

Yep, watching the band play them live at TennoCon was phenomenal too, really elevated the tracks

[covert tree]

Yeah

[tight pagoda]

I haven't seen the movie they made yet but hopefully it does them more justice than the stream's VOD did

[tame canopy]

oh my god bruh

I can feel the fact I picked the wrong dialogue lmao

I forgot arthur's no nonsense and stuff and on-lyne is basically like a cheesy 90s band or sth

[sacred flint]

that's why i like aoi better cause she is a happy person

[hearty pendant]

he's fun once you break the walls down. just have to get through them

[opaque dove]

Case with most everyone, but Arthur’s got high built walls.

But, with time, you can break em down

[stoic cloak]

Why does it have to be difficult tho you have keep track of so many things in their personality

[covert tree]

Because if they were 1 dimensional itd suck balls

[real niche]

They're really not that hard to get along with. Aoi is the lovey-dovey sap that just involves not brushing off anything she says, call out Lettie on her horrible thinking, Eleanor just pick options that would lead to deeper conversations and don't just spout out immediate answers...

[steep totem]

Except the monster conversation
That one, it's okay to keep it short with the right choice

[real niche]

There are some short ones that are good like the dad joke one but I'm pretty sure it's easier to get chem as well as more chances to get more chem if you do the longer ones.

Lettie has one like that too when she asks you to get more supplies

[steep totem]

||It's the one where she asks if you would kill her if she fully turned Techrot
Say "Never", and you get a short but very good conversation out of it||

[real niche]

||Yeah the first "Yes" option for that one is the short and bad one there||

[unreal spruce]

lip smack
so i'm in this portion of the New War and I'm still confused regarding difference between Operator and Drifter
Drifter explained that Operator is the version that got rescued from "this shit"
What did he mean by "this shit"? Like the whole first act of war before Lotus's arm was chopped off and Operator was stabbed by Ballas?
Or sometime after, not really specified?

and does it really matter who i choose?
cuz thematically i think like drifter got the most torture out this idk, would be poetic to finish with him

[warm anvil]

"this shit" refers to the zariman incident entirely. zariman has been stuck here/in duvuri this entire time up until now. long enough for them to grow up

[warm anvil]

also the choice doesn't matter at all, just some like 2 dialogue lines.

[unreal spruce]

So Drifter didn't make deal with the man in the wall and Operator did, right?
(assuming that this entity that takes the form of operator but black eyes is the man in the wall)

on the other note, so thaaat's why it's Duviri's PARADOX whoaaaaaaa
anywho, haven't even touched that prior, so yea

[hearty pendant]

they both did, just different interpretations of 'all of them'
operator's included them, drifter's did not
duviri tablet says "i said i'd save all of them, didn't say i'd save you"

[unreal spruce]

oooooohhhh
ok ok ok thank u
ok yeah now i understand, thank ye

i'll finish new war and then come back with more questions XD

[warm anvil]

good, new war was written with duviri coming after it in mind. seems like duviri being a beginner thing was a later decision

[warm anvil]

ooh ty

[weary wyvern]

In terms of Eternalism, it was Wally's choice that created the split, if I understand correctly.

Buh, @ed the wrong person; sorry Grey!

[balmy storm]

It technically would kinda be yeah, since he’s the individual deciding what “save them all” means

One instance is Drifter one instance is Operator
All we did was shake his hand and he did the rest

[balmy badger]

Yeah, playing Duviri first completely ruins the surprise of the Drifter's identity TNW is supposed to have.

[zenith jacinth]

A later very stupid decision

[weary wyvern]

Yeah, when my friends found out I stumbled into Duviri, they very quickly told me to leave XD

Luckily, I was mostly just very confused

[unreal spruce]

i just watched like start-er let's plays of warframe and it was basically a stream edit and when streamer asked about duviri paradox everyone just went "heavy spoilers, plz don't go until much later"

so i remembered that and not touched it since starting the game myself XD

[weary wyvern]

XD Nice

I was aware that there's a Human behind the frame, cause of a friend who was into the game long before I had a platform to play it on, but luckily I was still 8O when the reveal dropped and I learned exactly what that human is

[unreal spruce]

i think i spoiled myself on Operator being the pilot, tho not really about their identity, more like "oh ok, it's human piloting space ninja, makes sense"
but really when i first learned of "warframe" i was like "well smth must be inside the frame, ain't they piloted cyborgs?"
my butt just thought they aren't organic lmao

[unreal spruce]

btw, i only needed to defeat two archons? i thought three, but i defeated two only
would've something happened if i went and killed the third one or nay?

[tight pagoda]

You only have to fight 2 as Drifter

[steep totem]

I say this every single time, I swear no one listens
If you play it early enough, the spoilers are entirely lost on you
Especially if you play it before Second Dream, like I did
Drifter being an alternate Operator actually didn't click until I started Operator customization, and the kid looked like my Drifter but younger
So, I assumed alternate universe shenanigans
Then New War came around, and I actually didn't recognize Drifter at first, if you believe it (tbf, the mysterious voice talking to him intrigued me more, but turned out to just be Ordis)

Long story short, I still didn't expect to see Drifter outside Duviri

btw, if anyone could help me explain why I skipped over the fact that wise elder mentor Teshin was the Conclave Guy, I'd appreciate it
Because my silly butt did NOT see his "death" coming in New War, even after I saw him in Duviri

[balmy badger]

That's not how it goes for everyone unfortunately. I've heard many people who played Duviri before TNW talk about it ruining the impact of the Drifter face-reveal scene, because they knew it was the Drifter from the outfit.

[steep totem]

Okay, I guess if you give him fashion in Duviri, I can see that
I didn't

And I almost never play with the Hood up, so that sorta confused me too

[balmy badger]

Regardless though, playing Duviri first does change the feel of Act 2 a bit from the original intention. Whether that's a good or bad thing is up for personal interpretation.

[steep totem]

Did make me wonder why I didn't have Sun & Moon once I realized I was Drifter

[balmy badger]

As someone who played TNW on release day, the original intention for Act 2 felt like:
"Who is this guy? Wait, this is my Tenno? Why are they an adult and missing their powers now? Oh wait, alternate timeline version of them?"

The last one at least is maintained regardless of if you play Duviri first or not.

[steep totem]

I get that

But I'm horribly skeptical of preserving "original intentions"
because, frankly, if that was such a concern
We'd have all the Mutalist Alad stuff available before Second Dream

[balmy badger]

Well they kinda just rewrote that whole thing to take place whenever. Cause they did go back and make Alad V in Second Dream not use his post-cure model in the transmissions.

[balmy storm]

I wonder what Alad’s resumé looks like

[echo basalt]

it probably just says opportunistic rat in bold letters

[quick smelt]

“Yes”

[sharp bough]

did we ever get any comments from DE as to why we can't hug Loid

[bleak widget]

idk if this counts as a spoiler but - gotta love when the game breaks and i have to restart the entire mission to kill Nira :D

[ebon matrix]

has anyone been contacted by user of this server montgomery_ubf9 ( " Beater " ) trying to convince you to play some game called GGW or Grand Gangster War ? , sounds lke some kind scam or hackng attempt ?

[simple patrol]

Warframe

[tame canopy]

question: would the notes on their profile gets updated as I conversed with them more?

Like there are some notes on their personality traits and commentary from drifter that indicate they're still neutral about each other with surface remarks on their character so I was wondering if you engage in talks often enough or maybe select certain dialogues, the profile updates itself to let you glean more into their inner lives and stuff

[hearty pendant]

yea the profile will update with higher chemistry
not sure if it updates after specific convos or just on rank ups

[rain otter]

This is probably a scam yeah.

[hearty pendant]

three-way tie between the call, pick a side, and shut it down, huh?

[echo basalt]

personally i think the live version of shut it down is the best

[covert tree]

Sound tracks to good

Theres no one best song

[warm anvil]

core containment wasnt on there so I didnt vote :(

[tight pagoda]

Yeah I just went with the Lyric ones that were played during the TennoConcert

[zenith jacinth]

Anything like that is a bot

[covert tree]

Oh i need to re listen to these ones I dont remember them as well as the og 1999 ones

[lime elbow]

yall what are these choices i look like a fish

[covert tree]

Its not your fault wait for the operator face lift coming at the end of the year

Also yeah you look like a fish

[pliant saffron]

Faces are getting a clean up in December

[lime elbow]

oh thats good

i managed to make it somewhat more normal

[zenith jacinth]

At least your operator doesn't look traumatized like the average operators do

[balmy storm]

But
They are traumatized

Like very explicitly and very heavily-

The tenno need therapy lol

[opaque dove]

Everyone’s Tenno needs therapy. And several hugs and reminders that a lot of people care about them

[balmy storm]

We gotta stop being everyone else’s therapist 😭

At least Drifter has people to talk to about their trauma

[opaque dove]

Real

And true

[zenith jacinth]

Yeah ok but a different flavor of traumatized not "permanently wide-eyed like a goldfish that comprehends math" traumatized

[weary wyvern]

I just met Minerva (as a lesbian I am delighted, even if she's non-romanceable)

and her online handle being MOMTOXICATED is fantastic XD

[rough solstice]

Chat isn't that active but slow mode is still active?

[echo basalt]

It's always active

[tight pagoda]

Yeah when it gets to the point we start discussing stuff slow mode is helpful

[zenith jacinth]

Channel isn't 24/7 hyperactive
"DeAd ChAnNeL"

[pliant saffron]

https://fixupx.com/pablomakes/status/1976002619597623508

Pablo (@PabloMakes)

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[undone lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-i-didnt-see-what-you-deleted-deleted-delete-discord-gif-25993865

[amber terrace]

How much empathy is too much empathy for a character like Pazuul/Erra?

[tight pagoda]

I don't think there's a such thing as too much Empathy

Maybe too much sympathy but probably not empathy

[left slate]

https://tenor.com/view/yummy-muncher-gif-26135923

THANK YOU PABLO FOR THE MEAL

[hearty pendant]

the expected result tbh

[undone lodge]

@balmy storm

[balmy storm]

I saw!
Thank you :]
I’m so hyped

New Xaku build time

[fathom nexus]

So...
Astral Bond hound?
100% void dmg vulnerability?
Easy stack of 100% enemy slowdown?
Probably another buggy source of arcane ice storm

[balmy storm]

I checked the wiki and there’s no info on any interaction, unlike with Harrow

Also I’m not really sure how astral bond would help other than spreading more void damage ig
I’ll have to see what I can cook up

I could see it potentially being too clunky since you’d need to swap in and out of your operator to keep up astral bond while keeping up vast untime and Xaku’s other abilities (which you mostly don’t have to worry about thankfully)

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[half light]

"uiral"

[winged sandal]

Uriel less popular cousin

[half light]

"eagnetic"

[pliant saffron]

all those status and no CO mod for archguns

btw, pablo confirmed 4 augments as usual in the xaku vid he dropped

[half light]

for who ?

[pliant saffron]

unconfirmed, so far just xaku

[fathom nexus]

Secondary Shiver is the best they can get rn

[pliant saffron]

i looked into it, its not reaaly that good

[fathom nexus]

Wiki doesn't have for limbo but it works

Also astral bond + manifold bond spreads a lot of void bubbles

Which is why I said hound coz large range primer

This is because from xaku's own kit, the only way to proc void is by xata's whisper

Hound definitely is the better choice

[fathom nexus]

Also horrible ammo uptime

[balmy storm]

All of their abilities proc void

I’m just curious if astral bond procs with Xaku’s void damage rather than the Tenno’s

Since technically they’re different iirc? But I believe that only applies to sentients, my point being does Astral Bond check for void damage in general or void damage from our tenno

If it’s in general, huge
Otherwise, we’ll see how well it works

[pliant saffron]

i havent seen the copy weapons proc void, looks like it does void damage..... anyone know the status chance?

[balmy storm]

They all deal void damage so they should proc void, no?

[pliant saffron]

status and damage are two separate things. the damage itself gets a bonus and nerf vs certain factions and the status is the effect that happens when the trigger happens

[fathom nexus]

Damage
Not status effect

All abilities may deal void dmg, but only xata's Whisper deals void status

[fathom nexus]

That logic isn't a universal law.

Great example is Pyrotechnics, it deals IPS damage, but procs heat

Some stuff gets forced status effects, some get 0% status chance

[fathom nexus]

0%?
Never seen those proc it

[pliant saffron]

figures so either stuck going drifter near 6 times a minute to keep a constant void damage on pet or keep the 1

[fathom nexus]

The entire augment talks ONLY about void status.

So far nothing in the game differentiates between the sources of void status, they do differentiate void damage from xaku being fake against eidolon shields and other important stuff etc.

[fathom nexus]

Contagious Bond

Also Xata's Whisper with some large range weapon capable of strong status chance

(I think shedu's reload pulse counts)

(with primed Firestorm it is 28.8m)

[pliant saffron]

just some casual influence weapon use

[fathom nexus]

Oh this reminds me of a bug...

The phahd Scaffold miscellaneous damage bug

That can likely abuse this augment

[balmy storm]

I’m confused by your statement
They don’t differentiate the source but they very blatantly do when it comes to enemies that require the tenno for gameplay purposes

[fathom nexus]

Damage ≠ Status

[balmy storm]

No I get that now

I will be honest I am very tired

[fathom nexus]

Damage altogether is banned for xaku in many cases

So status naturally won't proc

[balmy storm]

Xaku deals both the status and the damage

[fathom nexus]

Lemme simplify this, only Xata's Whisper!

[balmy storm]

Our tenno deal both the status and damage

[balmy storm]

No
I know

[fathom nexus]

Great

[balmy storm]

The game cares about the origin is my point

[fathom nexus]

Yes, this will help

The augment seems very unlikely to be locked on xata's Whisper, knowing Pablo

If it will be, DE will fix it

[balmy storm]

Maybe

It depends what’s the intended playstyle of the augment

[fathom nexus]

There's no way players won't mass report it in first week of the update

[balmy storm]

If using astral bond and our tenno is absolutely busted then 🤷‍♀️
DE has gotten better at not just nerfing stuff but they do it when something goes against the intention or the game itself

I don’t really imagine it’ll be busted busted, the intended use here is clearly meant to be that you
Deal void status
Untime
Enemies are slowed
Have fun

[fathom nexus]

Also I don't think slow is the only debuff which will be boosted

[balmy storm]

If I’m remembering correctly sometimes some mods are also just worded inaccurately so who knows, it could take into account void damage too :p
I’m guessing not but y’know

[fathom nexus]

Oh wait BTW

Xata's Whisper doesn't count as xaku's status application

Because it doesn't proc arcane impetus

Unless you're using xata's whisper with an exalted like dex pixia because dex pixia itself is an ability

So yes, clearly all sources of void status will count

[balmy storm]

The only other debuff is the void damage vulnerability

[fathom nexus]

Yeah

And that one doesn't scale with strength

[balmy storm]

It basically just means Grasp of Lohk is gonna go crazy

[fathom nexus]

So this augment will help a lot

[balmy storm]

If it does buff it
Which it should
Which
50% going to 100%? Yes please

[fathom nexus]

I'm simultaneously having this chat in #builds-discussion

[balmy storm]

If this augment is as good as I think and am hoping it is the only hard part will be working it into my builds

Really wish it was an exilus slot

[pliant saffron]

only is doubling vast untime effects

[fathom nexus]

It has 2 debuffs

[pliant saffron]

slow and vuln

[fathom nexus]

Slow and Void dmg vulnerability

Question is will they include both or just slow

[balmy storm]

They said debuffs so
Yes

[pliant saffron]

probably both, the question if the slow will actually be doubled or get locked at a max slow

[balmy storm]

It says it’s doubling it

[fathom nexus]

Max slow is 100%

U can't slow down an enemy above 100%

[balmy storm]

You don’t really need more than 100% for obvious reasons

[zenith jacinth]

Reverse

[pliant saffron]

do we have evidence of someone with 400 str doing a freeze?

[balmy storm]

This augment is
Actually insane

[fathom nexus]

Yes

[balmy storm]

Do we know what other frames are getting augments?

[pliant saffron]

k good to know

[fathom nexus]

Unfortunately I'm not willing to invest that much str to test if that bugs arcane ice storm to proc it

[pliant saffron]

not at this time, only that there are 3 others

[fathom nexus]

Knowing Pablo, atleast 2 more augments will be revealed in intervals of a day or two

With final augment unrevealed until update

[pliant saffron]

hopefully dante is on that list

[fathom nexus]

Last time Kullervo augment was the one in the 4 which wasn't revealed, turns out it was the best augment of the update

Jade being worse Jade Light than eximus is ironic

[pliant saffron]

the light is ok, its used for some interesting stuff at higher levels

[fathom nexus]

I have much better experience with mind controlled jade eximus and my own hound

Though I haven't tested heat inherit shenanigans with Jade's augment

That may allow a loop on stronger enemies

[fathom nexus]

BTW, I don't think it'll turn out to be too powerful thing.

I think inconvenience is a good balancing. And procing this mod is going to be inconvenient for large groups

[pliant saffron]

Tested tau from Caliban melee, won't force status sadly on xaku 2

[fathom nexus]

Huh

That's the peak hardcoding I've seen by DE so far

They really wanted xaku to be fake void damage dealer

[fathom nexus]

If I was crazy, I'd craft a caliban specter and test with that

But since I'm not, I'm not really recommending it.

[balmy storm]

Yeah!

Maybe the xata’s whisper augment will make the void damage/status “real”

[pliant saffron]

Its more likely that the rift will do what the corruption does but void instead

[balmy storm]

What?

[pliant saffron]

Fissure mission s

[balmy storm]

No i know but idk what you mean

[balmy storm]

“Real” meaning the void from Xata’s would act like our Tenno’s amps

[fathom nexus]

Funny enough Astral Bond companions can damage eidolons

So Xaku very specifically takes the L

[fathom nexus]

It's the reason why astral bond was initially nerfed to reduce the damage output

[steep totem]

So, why couldn't they just recode Astral Bond to follow Xata's Whisper mechanics
What I'd do

[fathom nexus]

Maybe they want players to keep real void damage companion

[steep totem]

I guess

[fathom nexus]

Think about it, it's easier than making an amp and building madurai

[balmy storm]

DE just knows they’d be far too powerful

It’s like when they nerf goku or whatever protag you want cause they’d just destroy everything

[fathom nexus]

Astral Bond simply took the low damage nerf because of the existence of Verglas

They did not want a companion to completely trivialize eido hunt

[fringe pond]

I can finally unmute this channel 🔥

[opaque dove]

What

[warm anvil]

Citizens of Discordia! I am proudly announcing, I am unmuting you all!

[wet mortar]

mutes

[pliant saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-gary-oldman-everyone-gif-14317847

Hi

[zenith jacinth]

Wat

[fringe pond]

I can’t get spoilered anymore cause i’m caught up on the story

[zenith jacinth]

You were in the lore channel pretty regularly tho

This channel is just also allowed to talk about upcoming stuff

[warm anvil]

nah this channel is dedicated to tagging random people and spoiling things for them

[wet mortar]

@warm anvil unmutes

[ionic cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-robinson-i-think-you-should-leave-you-sure-about-that-gif-22429959

define caught up to the story

[fringe pond]

Lmfao

[rain otter]

So you think

[tight pagoda]

@fringe pond have you seen the Old Peace stuff at TennoCon too? Because that + the Devil's Triad will no doubt get brought up occassionally

[fringe pond]

yeah

[weary wyvern]

Lizzie/the Infection talking about how much she/they love us is FACSINATING

[rain otter]

Oh yeah also the fact Lizzie can see through time is wild. Also Lizzie talks about being helmith.

[glass grove]

I've heard about Lizzie yet I've never seen her

[half light]

she's from 1999, how far are you into the story ?

[glass grove]

Second Dream

I know Temple's guitar is called Lizzie

And that Lizzie is apparently sentient

[half light]

yeah, 1999 is way further down the story

[glass grove]

Or that at least Protoframe Temple's Lizzie is

[tight pagoda]

You should probably avoid this channel until you're caught up

[glass grove]

It's okay, Warframe lore is so complex I don't even understand what I've played up to this point.

[rain otter]

The second dream isn't that complex.

[glass grove]

Yeah, I was joking. Everything is pretty simple but at the same time I still don't know what Lotus is.

[rain otter]

@glass grove okay quick and dirty lore up to the second dream. You are the Tenno controlling the warframes. You are a child from the Zariman Incident a ship that had a accident it gives you powers. You control warframes. Lotus is Natah a sentient. Sentients are who you fought in the old war. Hunhow is her Dad.

Stalker is someone from the old war that's mad about us killing all the Orokin at the end of the old war. So he works with hunhow.

[glass grove]

That much I got except the Zariman part. How powerful is Lotus tho?

[rain otter]

Good question.

[tight pagoda]

The Zariman stuff will be explained in more detail later.

[obtuse gyro]

How powerful do you think she is, we can help you manage expectations from there

[glass grove]

I know she did the void thing. And someone called her omnipotent.

[obtuse gyro]

Which is slightly understandable, however the quest right before The Second Dream tells you very plainly what she is, but uh, you'll need some more time before you find out why she is the way she is

[obtuse gyro]

Ok 1) what exactly do you mean by void thing
2) LOL whoever called her omnipotent needs their expectations severely recalibrated. Shes no where close to that

[glass grove]

I think it was Alad V

[obtuse gyro]

He uh, only called her "powerful" not "omnipotent"

[glass grove]

1. Putting the Moon in the Void

[obtuse gyro]

Plus like the whole putting the Moon in the Void thing isnt so much something thats specific to her, Lua has the tech just for that, and Lotus used that tech

[glass grove]

Oh. Didn't someone call her "omnipotent mother"?

[obtuse gyro]

its the same tech you break to get Lua out of the void

[obtuse gyro]

Ah I see what you mean, yes Alad throws out "omnipotent mother" but thats hyperexagerrated hyperbole

infact in the context of the sentence its meant to mock lotus and the tenno

its like say, "I think [insert evidently uninformed person] is so smart, the smartest even!"

[tight pagoda]

It also is a very impressive thing to hide the moon and keep it a secret

[tame canopy]

this so funny, she really wants to be with our space mom

Which, fair 🤫

woah, all the chat's locked now
is fresh slice a quest?

or.... a rank?

[tight pagoda]

Rank with the Hex Syndicate

[tame canopy]

ohhhh I see then tks

[warm anvil]

man in the wall confirmed to sand pancake

[undone lodge]

You’ll unlock the second part of The Hex quest at Rank 3 once you finish that ranks Chemistry, and won’t be able to move past that until after it’s completed

[devout vortex]

this look like a nighmare fuel

[zenith jacinth]

Yeah the desert skates are creepy

[azure solar]

terrify

[azure solar]

though i do like where your head is at- just having the enemy looking down in fear as they realize their feet are not carrying them foreward but instead the tenno are litteraly making them moonwalk to toy with them

[shadow forum]

I hope old peace quest won't be again some boring quest, but so mysterious with many things to reveal like 10 hidden scenes about some things for TAU.

[rain otter]

What boring quest do you mean?

[azure solar]

picks up nyx skin and with this we can :3

[azure solar]

good- bad guitars get tossed in the flesh-mouth

[rain otter]

She's the flesh mouth.

[undone lodge]

bad guitars get folded inside themselves ig

[wise solstice]

Any suggestions on Warframe lore learning?

Videos specifically

[wise solstice]

Bad Guitars get sent to Deimos for a few days
Like the old days!

Or Eris

[rain otter]

Diemos is seemingly a older strain well not older but from the old war at least.

anyway.

[wise solstice]

Eris was still used as a punishment

[rain otter]

can i get a refrence on that?

[wise solstice]

The Emisary of Eris was only made because people were banished and sent there?

The Emisary had the body of a child that was sent there a while ago

[obtuse gyro]

but... thats recent events?

[wise solstice]

True, but my point is that it was used as punishment

[steep totem]

I was under the impression you were only banished to Eris if you caught Infestation

[wise solstice]

Might’ve been something like that
But some people also willingly say “hey, let’s try infestation because everything else isn’t working.”

[balmy storm]

I’m not finding anything that says it was used as a punishment

I doubt Arlo was sent to be punished
He also died 3 years prior

Looks like Kenga was cast out and that’s kinda it

I’m still reading tho

[wise solstice]

Fair

[balmy storm]

So it was with old Kenga. Somehow exposed, and promptly cast out. Woke up on a blessed cage-drop down to Eris.

[wise solstice]

Hm

Then I was mistaken
Just Deimos then

[balmy storm]

I don’t believe Deimos was used as a punishment either?
The Grineer were stranded
Same with the Corpus

[wise solstice]

Well they were just researching

But I’m pretty sure it was used as a punishment before
I don’t remember much about old war laws

But I know there were a variety of punishments and executions

[balmy storm]

I’m not finding anything about the infested being used as a punishment

There was being turned into a frame

But
That’s kinda it and wasn’t just a punishment

Other punishments I recall being Jade Light and Glassing

[vagrant cypress]

Have yall experienced being unable to use cards against opponents?

[wise solstice]

Huh

[balmy storm]

Jade Light was a mercy
Glassing is the act of Cephalization

[wise solstice]

Yeah I know that

But being sent to infested planets wasn’t a punishment?

[balmy storm]

No

[pliant saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/enricopucci-happy-happy-enrico-pucci-jojo-made-in-heaven-jojo-gif-26801198

Jade light be like

[vagrant cypress]

I can do everything as normal but when it comes to selecting a target to use a card it doesn't do anything

[balmy storm]

I’m not finding anything at all about being sent to an infested anywhere as a punishment, beyond the occasional Warframe cases like Jade and Stalker

[wise solstice]

Thought it’d be a “worse than death” situation similarly to being Glasses

[balmy storm]

Glassing makes them actually useful
Infesting them just makes issues unless they’ll be a frame

[vagrant cypress]

Ups wrong chat

[balmy storm]

I mean if you can find any quote that concretely states this happens by all means, but I’m looking through the archives and I’m finding nothing

[wise solstice]

True
But it also brings extreme pain in the process

[balmy storm]

I mean sure but if the Orokin want to actually see the execution then glassing or just
Straight up execution works better

[wise solstice]

Fair

[balmy storm]

Using the infested as a punishment really only works for being turned into a frame

[wise solstice]

Yeah I might’ve been mistaken
But I swear there was one group that used one of the infested planets as a punishment

[balmy storm]

Again, all I could find is Kenga who was “somehow exposed, and promptly cast out”
So
Exposed to the infested and cast our for it

Not really a punishment since he didn’t do anything? He just was exposed and that was the safest option

[wise solstice]

Fair

[balmy storm]

Which yeah makes sense with how dangerous it is

[wise solstice]

Considering they were made to kill
Well… anything in sight

[wise solstice]

Anyways

[balmy storm]

Loretubers are mostly a bad idea
Best recommendation from me would be to use the orokin archives and ask questions, never be afraid to ask for a source
The wiki can be dubious so check for sources there too
The Orokin Archives have nearly everything barring some of the newer stuff since it’s ran by one person but they source everything, ofc errors can happen

I mostly learned from things in game or talking to people here

[thick jolt]

deimos also wasn't like some forgotten backwater
even after they detonated the infestation bomb to defend from the sentient, deimos was still key infrastructure for the funtioning of the orokin empire

[wise solstice]

My

Good to know

[rain otter]

Diemos is also the ancestral home of the entrati but you might know that.

[wise solstice]

Oh that was obvious

[thick jolt]

This reminds me
I wonder what the traffic jams at the solar rails looked like while we worked to fix the heart

[rain otter]

Solar rails are only 1 at a time anyway it seems.

[thick jolt]

Yeah but that still screws up the schedule

Uhhh sorry noone can go because the rail is on the fritz

Imagine a corpus overseer getting fired because when they finally get their supervisor on comms we turn the heart back on lol

[cerulean kiln]

Probably wasn’t much of one because the frames were turned off so the Tenno wouldn’t be using them because they didn’t have a frame

[thick jolt]

I take it as
If the frames didnt have enough energy to move
Imagine the solar rails

[cerulean kiln]

It’s the non Tenno Solar Rails that would be having the real issue

[thick jolt]

Yeah that was what i was talking about

Since the heart affects all void tech and not just tenno void tech

[balmy storm]

This reminds me
I finished the waverider yesterday and the end of the comic made me want to see more civilian lives in the origin system

Like I’d kill for a cinematic or animation or whatever of just some
Civilian trader, going about the system, showing what it’s like
By the end they’re attacked by Grineer or Corpus or the Infested (or all 3) and BOOM here comes the legendary Tenno!

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

Us to random civilian

[thick jolt]

Yeah fairly sure closest we got was that fusion moa log with simaris

[balmy storm]

I really enjoyed glassmaker because the victims felt like
Characters?

Idk how to describe it
Like that Grineer had floofs!

[thick jolt]

Oh yeah that was awsome too

[balmy storm]

That’s such a fun thing, the dude just liked his plushies! That’s so human!

I think DE tries to have humanity shine through whenever they can, like the corpus sister in jade shadows

[thick jolt]

Just had a what if idea

What if the kid making moas as his family's caravan moved along grew up to be thursby

[balmy storm]

:D

[fringe pond]

We have comics that are sorta like that

[undone lodge]

Also the whole thing with Neci and that one Scaldra soldier from the story VelMin told

[open vault]

I think the Styanax cinematic has something like that

[zenith jacinth]

Nah

[weary wyvern]

So I got the KIM chat from Eleanor where she asks "Am I a minefield?"

And I remembered them talking about this at Tennocon, and how that conversation was partially there for players who had found Eleanor difficult to talk with

But by the time I got to 1999, I couldn't remember who that was about, and convinced myself it must be Lettie, since she was the member I was having the hardest time with. Eleanor I actually found really easy to talk with!

So now I'm curious-- what do you have to do with Eleanor to see that "minefield" of conversations?

[tight pagoda]

I think she's got some branches that are shorter than others in the same dialogues, that aren't necessarily marked [End.] but aren't as lengthy as other choices

[weary wyvern]

Aaah o:

[tight pagoda]

i.e. this one

[weary wyvern]

I only had 1 negative interaction with her, and it felt easy enough to smooth over. I really like her character c:

[steep totem]

What do you have to do to see the minefield?

Why, that's easy! You just zero in on sexy tongue lady, and forget she's an actual person when you talk to her!

[weary wyvern]

I think the one time I over stepped was when she was talking about putting makeup on Arthur, and I replied "ooh maybe you can do my makeup" (I think it had a winky face but I misunderstood lol), and she was not happy I would disrespect the scantity of makeup time when we didn't know each other well yet. Was easy enough to say sorry tho c:

[balmy storm]

It does!
To be clear it’s similar but not exact since it focuses on a cult and not just normal civilians

[balmy storm]

Yeah, we have things that do it but i want more lol

[balmy storm]

Can you remind me what that one is?

[soft pumice]

It probably won't happen but I'd actually like to free hunhow and help him get back to tau to try and be nice to him since he seems to have regrets and just want to make amends now

[undone lodge]

Cant get a screenshot rn but rank 2 convo 3

There’s also a bit about her peacefully defusing a conflict between two warlords in one meeting

[tight pagoda]

Same dialogue but if you ask Minerva

[cerulean kiln]

<@&778745217037238293>

[opaque dove]

Uh <@&778745217037238293>

[ionic sleet]

[opaque dove]

Danke, alyxis

[sour blaze]

Yoo putting this in spoiler chat cause it’s spoilery but.

I’m talking to the hex yeah, n as a conversation on the KIM ended it cut to the deaths again briefly. Do that mean I was doing something right

[covert tree]

Yes

[sour blaze]

Cheers

[opaque dove]

I Never let Arthur forget the spaghetti incident

[plain ginkgo]

@vale star you here?

[vale star]

Yes

[soft pumice]

All of the zerimon guys are dead. What we see is basically there souls given a sorta form by the void

[plain ginkgo]

Good, remember the conversations we took part too while talking with the guys on the Zariman right?

[vale star]

Yeah after reaching rank 4 i think

[plain ginkgo]

But at the same time they aren't dead due to void shenanigans

[soft pumice]

They all died. And no one else besides those who are touched by the void can see them.

[vale star]

https://tenor.com/view/midnight-the-cat-stopped-working-midnight-the-cat-cat-cat-meme-funny-cat-gif-81113296414293415

[plain ginkgo]

I was going with the Etherialism idea but Ezel is right here

[soft pumice]

They are dead but there souls are basically bound to the ship by void magic and only us the tenno and other void touched things can see them as they don't have a real physical form

Yet it's real enough they can still interact with objects but that's probably because there all bathed in void energy

[vale star]

So basically the corpus and grineer think drifter has schizophrenia when they see them talking to air

[plain ginkgo]

that's why I went with the idea that they are alive yet they aren't

[soft pumice]

Yess it's all so why they NEVER shoot the thrax because they literally can't see them.

[vale star]

Okay I'm actually mind blown knowing this now

[plain ginkgo]

Warframe lore is cool but you need time to get into it hard

[soft pumice]

It all so rases the questions what do they think when a thax consumes one of there people right in front of them and the body just disappears right before there eyes and there's no warframes

[plain ginkgo]

Ezel I gotta ask, do you have any idea why Rusalka is in Duviri?

[obtuse gyro]

I mean... we dont know that no one else can see them

[fringe pond]

I feel like there’s a easier way to refer to the Holdfasts
They’re simply void manifestations of the old crew
Dead literally, alive figuratively

[obtuse gyro]

we know that that quality applies to the thrax, but the thrax and the holdfasts are two different things

[vale star]

So that's why hearing the zariman convo after reaching rank 4 syndicate was confusing to me, I thought they got revived

[obtuse gyro]

literally revenge for what we did in 1999

[fringe pond]

And also because Wally’s annoyed that he doesn’t own Duviri

[real niche]

They did in a sense, but like ghosts haunting a ship is not a new thing.

[plain ginkgo]

how did she end up there tho?

[real niche]

Wally.

[obtuse gyro]

Wally took her there, because wally possessed her since 1999

[plain ginkgo]

Ah

I thought he left her body at 1st

[fringe pond]

I’m assuming you didn’t realize she was posessed

[vale star]

Just wally things 💅

[fringe pond]

Oh

Nah he just left for 2 seconds

[plain ginkgo]

I realized that but I thought he gave up on Rusalka

[fringe pond]

But there’s that segment where you watch the hex die with black goop

[plain ginkgo]

Fair enough

[fringe pond]

He took her over again during that

That’s why he speaks to you with her voice

[plain ginkgo]

ngl, I wanna replay that quest now

[fringe pond]

Reasonable

[plain ginkgo]

It was good also

[obtuse gyro]

the dead that yet live, easy peasy

[vale star]

Schizophrenia for void users

[obtuse gyro]

Dont think theres much schizo behaviour here

[real niche]

That would be Skittergirl lol

[obtuse gyro]

I dont think the thrax being unseeable for non-void touched entities necessarily extends to the holdfast at all

[vale star]

Ok mb

[soft pumice]

I thought the void fast made reference about other things not being able to see them the few times they where out grating things

[obtuse gyro]

like where?

[soft pumice]

Might be Mandela effect but I thought it was just some random idle duologue they can say when you afk around them

[fringe pond]

Hmm

Can the Corpus and Grineer see the Aeolak,then?

[obtuse gyro]

its not in any of the quotes

[fringe pond]

Like if we equipped it ot whatever

[steep totem]

Lol
The Tenno with the Invisible Gun

[half light]

wouldn't be too out of pocket, there is already like...4 invis frames

[wicked iron]

Invis frames? DID SOMEONE SAY LOKI PROTO!?!?

q_q pliss.... Pliss....

[fringe pond]

Lmfao

[soft pumice]

Every time I see you pop up minion I imagine this

https://tenor.com/view/minions-gru-fixing-despicable-me-gif-3533562

[wicked iron]

[zenith jacinth]

I always just wonder who the minion's boss is

And then I remember

[zenith jacinth]

No it's DE

[rain otter]

It got a line to you in the like Zariman from one of the hex. Yeah that's you unlocking a thing.

[soft pumice]

love it

[weary wyvern]

The entire KIM system is a delight XD

[red kiln]

Walking out of Höllvania Central Mall and seeing Velemir with a rotted CRT television on a grill

[zenith jacinth]

he's probably using the rot part of the techrot

which is more organic in nature

[red kiln]

Trying to garnish a steak with the weird, glowy growths on the sides of an Obsolyte

[azure solar]

she would like that- all the pretty gore to spill- id rather put her in the broom closet and act like i forgor about her

[azure solar]

and warframeification- wait what if after albriecht discovered void entering the orokin made getting yeeted into the unknown as a one way trip a punishment- (maybe hencee bombastine)

[azure solar]

they infested them to stave off sentients i thought

[obtuse gyro]

they only did that to one moon lol

[obtuse gyro]

bombastine is a conceptual embodiment that is a part of duviri

[azure solar]

like umbra- but he was a special case- ballas wanted to watch AND FORCE UMBRA TO RELIVE OVER AND OVER

[azure solar]

not even made to- just did it as a consequence of existing unsupported "we tried everything (evil; to control them) -"

[azure solar]

my source is that i m- er- its fiction

[azure solar]

character depth and attention to detail

[obtuse gyro]

Why is broski replying to days old messages

[azure solar]

...real shame that one- sad to see him go- glad that legs guy is alright- wherever he came from

[cerulean kiln]

What's wrong with replying to days-old messages?

[obtuse gyro]

Conversation ended then, why start it again now? What are broskis desires

[azure solar]

the zaramin and the tempestarii- two LITERAL ghost-ships - courtesy of the void

[azure solar]

ghost

[azure solar]

the corpus and grineer dont know WHAT is up with us- all they know is bad spooky scary strong but with enough downrange it will go down for a second... then get back up.... then tear through everything they know and love

if they actually still remember what love is

[azure solar]

i thought it was a different force- wally liking to watch and the indifference not only choosing not to help but actively trying to discourage others until everything is left in ruins

[azure solar]

its an old orokin grinneer gun- so they might even see their own gun as it or not notice the difference- or many other things

[azure solar]

sister

and she hasnt got the chance to be here when she wants

[obtuse gyro]

brocephalus's desires are known

[obtuse gyro]

wally and the Indifference are the same goobermatronics

[azure solar]

*sis-ipheus

(the bunny is struggling- but we get there eventually- to another thing needing help)

[obtuse gyro]

we are all brethren, man woman and all others

[azure solar]

proof?

[obtuse gyro]

everyone is bro

[azure solar]

proof on this

[obtuse gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[azure solar]

solidarity

[azure solar]

but what if the truth was cooler

[obtuse gyro]

cooler daniel

[cerulean kiln]

Get in the cooler

[azure solar]

daniel its hot out there

[undone lodge]

Feeding the tech bits to Lizzie

Sautéd in a bit of tabasco sauce and oil (kerosene of course)

[azure solar]

me about to delight in the horrified realization of him knowing what i am

(then reseting time)

[wise solstice]

Don’t you DARE choose the second one

Amir may be… talkative at times
But he ||(probably)|| was the first one to trust us

[red hedge]

Did Rebb just hint at a post-Nokko update before The Old Peace? gasp

[wise solstice]

😭

[shadow forum]

Nah more like teshin quest for modding.

[weary wyvern]

Lizzie is INCREDIBLY endearing ahahah <3

[zenith jacinth]

My favorite is still her going >:3

[unique pebble]

I didnt know sending pics of the KIM was a thing still 👀

Exciting stuff

[unique pebble]

I got a golden >:3 and it makes me happy

[zenith jacinth]

Yes that's the one

There only is one >:3

[unique pebble]

There's only one? I thought there were more :o

[weary wyvern]

GASP where is the >:3

[hearty pendant]

one of the last convos w/ her iirc? have to be locked into the good ending i think

[zenith jacinth]

Ye

[weary wyvern]

Thank c:

[opaque dove]

Lizzie and Aoi really know how to use Emoticons, eh?

[north hamlet]

So the story is Nef wants to move into the Vallis's basement and wants all the mushrooms gone to build his private abode

[vagrant edge]

there isn't mush room to expand

[covert tree]

[copper gorge]

drifter now can use signas

YES! FINALLY, A DRAGON COSSPLAY CAN GET HORNS!

[soft pumice]

i wonder if this is luck or scripted to spawn on this new quest

[teal valve]

So wait, did the Teacher quest line reworked a older mission?

[obtuse gyro]

eh?

[teal valve]

The recent quest with the new update

[soft pumice]

no. its a middle step betwen the first quest in the game and the rest of the game opeing up to players

[teal valve]

Okay

[soft pumice]

it seems like it takes place right after you do the vor prize quest before you leave earth

as they act like its are first time seeing the corpus

[cerulean kiln]

Quest order it is placed after Vor’s prize

[hearty pendant]

yea, its meant to be right after vor's prize
they said something like that when they revealed it + the quest start text has something like 'the corpus are plundering vor's camps now that he's gone'

[opaque fog]

wth am i looking at

[soft pumice]

musrhoom trip what else would it be

[hearty pendant]

a sprodling in a cave, looks like

[opaque fog]

Ah nightcap backstory

[gritty flume]

well that's kinda funny

to see teshin dax got, revealed earlier in the teacher

before the war within

[obtuse gyro]

I mean, you meet him all of a sudden in Natah, and thats if you dont see him in the relays first

[north hamlet]

Okay the teacher quest? 10/10, they cooked

[gritty flume]

i meant his full name got revealed in the teacher before the war within

i don't think his full name is revealed in natah though

[north hamlet]

I mean story wise given The Teacher is before the War Within they think Dax is Teshin's surname

[gritty flume]

a mere surname?

[cerulean kiln]

Well it is capitalised

[flint totem]

Teshin got cooked by a literal CHILD

[gritty flume]

a mere surname that wasn't mean anything at first...

[cerulean kiln]

Teshin was also meant to be the only Dax alive until that was retconned

[gritty flume]

varzia...

[chrome nest]

Ain’t no way that the Corpus managed to get Teshin, he definitely let them get him and n purpose lol

[tropic pike]

||oh nooo im getting kidnapped by daddy teshin please dont hurt me||

[gritty flume]

||and he thought the tennyo was an impostor||

actually how could one impersonate tenno anyway...

[cerulean kiln]

Transference tech

Ours is innate
Tech can allow you to use transference as shown in Silvana a non-Tenno using Titania

[round hazel]

Wth why they got a mushroom named Nonono

😭

[obtuse gyro]

look at the mushroom and you can figure out why

[round hazel]

im not that far yet

but what were they doing to it for it to say Nonono

😭 😭

im cracking up rn

[quiet crypt]

is there a way to disable the new recoil thing?

[obtuse gyro]

later update toggle will be available

[obtuse gyro]

its a shroom with a very voidlike look

[fathom jewel]

anyone know how to get into this room?

[real niche]

When the hell was that ever said?

[cerulean kiln]

Teshin calls himself the last in War Within

[opaque dove]

Good ol Varzia

[real niche]

At this point a lot of what Teshin says is just him being extremely misinformed.

[amber terrace]

Given I’m an abysmally low MR( I’m only MR 30), how many geological eons is it gonna take to rank up with nightcap if I grind to standing limit each daily reset?

[hearty pendant]

no limit as far as i can tell, just picking up mushrooms and analyzing them

[amber terrace]

Wait

What? Wdym there’s no limit?

I am violently and profoundly confused

[hearty pendant]

yea you just have to pick up a bunch of mushrooms and analyze them

[manic lichen]

ill be the one to ask but where is the orokin planter shown by the devstream?

Now that I watched the clip, a LOT of what they showed isn't there. Any reason as to why?

[hearty pendant]

oh interesting
might be dojo decor? dunno why it wouldn't be available elsewhere tho

[zenith jacinth]

Excuse you?

MR30 is high

[manic lichen]

I noticed some Duviri plants were also missing

Why show so much but remove them?

[hearty pendant]

a bunch of other vendors also got plant or resource decor stocks
could just be that they were thrown into this shop for the devstream

i'll find the thing in the changelog one sec

[manic lichen]

Aha, I figured it out, the zarimen items are in the zarimen ship with the decoration lady, so then I assume the decoration fits with the location

Where would Duviri and orokin decor be tho?

[zenith jacinth]

Duviri vendor, ???

[manic lichen]

Ah, yep. But then those only appear sometimes

[hearty pendant]

grandmother has the orokin planter

[uncut vine]

4 secret valves in that room if its the doort i just tried

[neon pasture]

Wait before you do the new quest it is currently bugged to all hell and now I’m soft locked

[zenith jacinth]

Was fine for me

[sour blaze]

Does anyone know if there was changes to aya

[thick jolt]

nightcap doesn't use standing

[opaque dove]

It’s like Kahl’s Garrison, except it’s not stock

[cerulean kiln]

Bounties are now randomised

[sour blaze]

Wdym? Like the challenges or rewards

[amber terrace]

Wait, so what’s the catch? Like what’s there to make it where we can’t blitz through the content in like 3 hours?

[cerulean kiln]

they made it so that bounty objectives scramble each time you start the same bounty which made Aya farmers mad

[thick jolt]

Nothing

[obtuse gyro]

the catch is that you have to collect ALOT of shrooms

[languid sandal]

Why is teshin always a foe and a partner 😭

Pick a side for God sake

[sour blaze]

Ah I see thank you

[cerulean kiln]

He didn’t trust us as it was his first time meeting us and transference tech could’ve been used

Natah he was on our side

War Within he was on our side still but had to serve due to Kuva

New War he was still on our side

[remote raft]

This new update slaps

[uncut vine]

love schrooms

[zenith jacinth]

He suspects the player is a mimic not someone using lost technology

[chrome nest]

Spoiler for The Prince story: ||Since he doesn’t remember that he died then ima assume that Nokko sacrificed himself to revive him||

[wise solstice]

||“May I make a suggestion? Put out a distress signal… and once you do, tell everyone that the Tenno are back.”||
-Lotus during the teacher quest

[reef compass]

I just did the teacher, was that really, truly it for mod learning? o.o there's no extra lesson or anything...

[amber terrace]

A hotfix deployed while I was in the middle of the mod quest, did I just brick my game?

[covert tree]

God teshins intro quest so far is beyond sick

Even a child could do it 🤨

[amber terrace]

Okay, can someone explain how to rank up with nightcap? This is all very confusing to me

[rain otter]

okay so just get Mushrooms if you get 3 of the same type you can turn them in. you can find them in the mission or just buy them from him with the currency you get from the missions.

that's it.

@amber terrace make sense?

[amber terrace]

Approximately

[rain otter]

okay

also if you do bonus objectives you get them as you are leaving.

or you get extra ones.

anyway they are like Zariman feathers.

[thick jolt]

Fully research this many mushrooms and you rank up

[pastel umbra]

aww no

has anyone finished "the prince"

its totally unfair for DE to throw an emotional haymaker with no warning

[balmy storm]

@fathom nexus you get to play with the new augment yet?

[covert tree]

I can tell the new quest was made for new players i hit teshin so hard he went to duviri

[amber terrace]

The more bounties I play, the more of a “hear me out” Nightcap becomes

Massive kudos to DE 👏 👏 👏

[copper cloud]

DE when we talk about this. Idk if I'm the only one with this issue

It's the shock webs around certain enamies that spawn in

[rugged briar]

1 warframe a second

[amber terrace]

Which version of the Xbox are you on? I would imagine that older editions from before the Series X/S would have a harder time with the new content

[grim totem]

wait so nightcap is dead or not?

[amber terrace]

I like to think that he was a recreational psychonaut when he wasn’t doing work for Corporate, and after the chicanery that was The New War, he got so unbelievably lost in the sauce that he entirely killed his ego(I haven’t made it beyond R1 yet)

[grim totem]

after doing the stem path it seems he died because of the spores but nokko revived him

[prisma fox]

How the heck do I fight the Scrofa Latro Raknoid on Steel Path? I've got a not-great-but-usually-passable SP build and this thing is just constantly going invulnerable, healing itself, and only getting status effects like 10% of the time

[soft pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/mushy-tushy-mushroom-mushroom-sprite-mushroom-with-butt-cute-mushroom-gif-11583351813834893784

[remote raft]

https://tenor.com/view/badger-badger-badger-mushroom-mushroom-mushroom-iggydr-gif-18197905

[boreal ermine]

Hey, does anyone found if the The Prince change and if he does how much stuff you need to give him

[lean otter]

yeah he change like 3 time and its 60+60+60 i don't remenber well sorry but sure 60 is to go to the next stage

[gilded elk]

These are all spoilers

[remote raft]

Yea it's spoiler chat bruh

[timber valley]

20/40/60 (120 total) to unlock the three paths

[gentle tinsel]

Is anyone else having issues getting Nokko Chassis to drop I got all the other pieces in under 10 runs of each bounty but for the chassis I’ve done around 50 and it’s not dropped once 🥴

[lean otter]

thx😅 for the help

[lean otter]

no first run for me

[gentle tinsel]

Oh idk then just find it weird that out of 100 possible chances cause it’s both an uncommon and rare reward that it hasn’t dropped at all in those 50 runs

[nova ridge]

I mean, that's just RNG. Took me a solid 50 or so runs before ANY Nokko parts were dropping. The larger the drop pool, the lower the chance, as well. Playing SP bounty is good for getting more fergolyte, though not so much for parts to drop, for instance.

Unrelated to that, though, anyone have a personal count on how many of the secret sprodlings are around? I've found 3, but I definitely feel like that's not all of them.

[zenith jacinth]

Seems unlikely

[waxen sphinx]

Is this meant to happen?

[nova ridge]

Big head mode, you mean? That happens when you pick up Gamma Berries.

[lean otter]

i have found 6 that give cave painting and 1 in a box like "is the master mind behind the terminal"

and i can't interact with i'm

[echo basalt]

so hows everyone feeling about the teacher quest?

[nova ridge]

Ah okay. So at least 3 more cave paintings to acquire, then. Kewl. It's fun looking around for them.

[lean otter]

yeah but i find nothing for like 3h and now i can't interact with the one i have find early

[nova ridge]

I've definitely found I can only interact with them some of the time. Yeah. Not sure what actually governs whether you can or not, in a given round.

[night grail]

Its a host thing

[nova ridge]

Oh wait. Is it? Weird.

[zenith jacinth]

It sure does introduce teshin

[lean otter]

weird but kind of make sens

[zenith jacinth]

Ok actual answer, not really a fan of how the regor voice slips through in the treasurer lines, they're complete opposites

[amber terrace]

This has probably been discussed ad nauseam, just how old is Nightcap? He seems to at least predate much of Fortuna’s construction?

[zenith jacinth]

At least 9

[amber terrace]

Is Nightcap older than SU? 👀

[zenith jacinth]

SU is older than fortuna

[amber terrace]

Huh

[zenith jacinth]

Have you not fought the exploiter orb

[amber terrace]

I thought deck 12 fell under the Fortuna umbrella

[zenith jacinth]

Fortuna is fortuna, deck 12 is deck 12

[amber terrace]

Ngl, I had assumed that Fortuna included all of the Solaris work camps in the Vallis

[lean otter]

fortuna is just a town ??? SU is people

[zenith jacinth]

It doesn't

Fortuna is only the one underground city

Very ironic name choice

[amber terrace]

So Nightcap isn’t as old as I thought he was

Here I was thinking the lad predated SU and was literally under a rock the entire time lol

[zenith jacinth]

He looks around 30 at most, so he's probably like 80 due to the extended lifespan thing

Remember, darvo is like 105

[amber terrace]

So Nightcap is definitely younger than Smokefinger, no arguments there. Nightcap is most definitely older than Legs, absolutely zero arguments there. Probably younger than The Business. Maybe similar age range between Eudico and Ms. Ticker?

[night grail]

Zuud erasure

[zenith jacinth]

Not the first time

[amber terrace]

Nightcap is definitely younger than Zuud

The reason I didn’t include her is because I thought it would’ve been overkill to include the whole roster

Similar story with Little Duck

Nightcap is probably marginally older than Little Duck

[zenith jacinth]

Include the random solaris who used to replay the intro

RIP intro replayer solaris

[echo basalt]

i didnt notice it peeking through, i dont listen to tyl regor that

much

[zenith jacinth]

I uh. Definitely did not watch a video of all his voice lines. Multiple times.

[amber terrace]

So uhhh,,, what’s Alad up to these days? He’s been far too quiet, especially after the stunt he pulled at the onset of The New War

[wise solstice]

Dialtone
(Deltarune Chapter 2 OST)
Fits the man in the wall’s eerie grin.

[hearty pendant]

good question

[zenith jacinth]

Yes

[wise solstice]

Prolly veiled or died
Might be a case of “we wanna make new corpus guys, so let’s forget about Aloser V”

[hearty pendant]

they let nef back in

[lilac owl]

Hey guys I just got this and I know it's jus5 a decoration but I've never heard of word for it

[wise solstice]

Nef is hilarious
Example:
-# “thatmustbeadifferentson”

[zenith jacinth]

Sniff anyo

[lilac owl]

Is it rare?

[zenith jacinth]

Dude cries 24/7

[wise solstice]

Yeah
But he’s funny

[zenith jacinth]

No

[wise solstice]

I mean look

[lilac owl]

Ok thank you just wanted to make sure

[wise solstice]

Best line by far

[zenith jacinth]

You get those from sprodlings hidden around the new area

One specific kind per sprod

[lilac owl]

Ooo that's cool

[wise solstice]

Cute mushrooms
Time to get Drifter high and listen to Blurred Lines by Robin Thicke

[fading current]

Arthur meets Teshin

[wise solstice]

Should’ve done that with Amir

I mean me

I have Amir but I used Excal Umbra

Well… Dex
But you get my point

[polar fiber]

ok so
in the teacher quest
teshin has his full name exposed by the lotus
which ruins the weight of the reveal during the war within and it makes me wonder if they forgot about the operator being like "DAX??? YOU'RE ONE OF THEM?"

was it just me that noticed that?

[zenith jacinth]

No

Was pointed out by others before ye

[echo basalt]

tbf

someone new wouldnt immediately clock oh tenshin is a secretly working for badguys a 2nd time

based of his name

reason i say 2nd time is because of the opening cinematic to the game which has dax but a new player wouldnt know what they would be called

so they wouldnt immediately assume "dax" is a warrior caste and not a lastname

• i seriously doubt a new player is doing simaris's side shit so they wouldnt see any mention of "dax" from the scan target entries

[lean otter]

i have talk of this about a hours but, no it's a cave painting that the baby nokko mushroom give you wen you are rank 3 with the prince mushroom for now i have find only 7 i thinks there more and it's juste a orbiteur decoration

you need to find them and interact with them but the host must have the ranks 3 prince

[amber terrace]

I’ve heard isolated mentions of a character called “The Prince”, is it new to this update or is it a creative name for someone’s Helminth?

[chrome nest]

That’s how Warframe lord operates

[night grail]

Have you not been feeding your mushroom colony

[amber terrace]

I’ve been giving everything to Nightcap???

[night grail]

Look at the thing to your right

[hearty pendant]

in the room w/ nightcap. iirc that little platform with purple on top
you can give the currency that i don't remember the name of to grow it

[shadow forum]

So how much runs you need to max all 16 for lvl up on nightcap.

[night grail]

Depends if youre buying mushrooms or not

[lean otter]

the prince mushroom for all i know is just for the lore of nokko and nightcap and the cave paint, if you don't care of the lore and the paint it's don't worse it, for max the mushroom u need 120 credit of nightcap

[fathom nexus]

Which one?

[echo basalt]

neat they recorded new dialouge for nora this update thats about the undermines

[hearty pendant]

oh?

[balmy storm]

Xaku

[rain otter]

okay i don't know how exactly it works.

[fathom nexus]

I'm not interested to test it anymore
Yesterday DE brought a "fix" with the update itself

The slow is now capped at 95%

I can't test arcane ice storm bug with it

[fathom nexus]

And the excuse is "to prevent performance issues" while Limbo can animation lock hordes with his 2.

[lean otter]

6h for 7 cave painting warframe peak

[rain otter]

Limbo probably shouldn

't be able to do that tbh.

he needs a rework to be a real warframe.

[fathom nexus]

DE is listening to the right veterans for that

[rain otter]

idk what that means.

[fathom nexus]

Current limbo change was interaction with nullifier from the 4th

I'm sure whatever change will happen, this time DE will do it good atleast

[rain otter]

oh yeah.

they changed how nullies work with certain abilites

that was cool.

[fathom nexus]

Coz past 2 reworks have been intentionally contradictory to meet the demands of both health tanking and death gaters

[balmy storm]

Whaaat ):

I still enjoy it personally

Especially since i figured out a good way to spread void

[eternal plinth]

Guys how does this look?

[balmy storm]

Surprise surprise
Epitaph

[balmy storm]

Like an Orokin

[balmy storm]

But fr though it looks good

If possible maybe add a diadem?

[eternal plinth]

What that

[balmy storm]

Like a tiara

[eternal plinth]

Oh uh...

[balmy storm]

Forehead wear

[fathom nexus]

Astral Bond + Manifold Bond hound?

[eternal plinth]

Ah..

[fathom nexus]

Alright

[eternal plinth]

Maybe this is better?

Or perhaps

[pastel umbra]

Damn

[balmy storm]

Oh yeah that too lol

[pastel umbra]

Hiii kazray

[eternal plinth]

Ello o/

[balmy storm]

Yeah :D

I think something small like that is perfect over like. The big umbra tiara

[pastel umbra]

You're really amazing at soul and Warframe fashion !

What's the helmet thingy?

[eternal plinth]

aww thanks =)

[eternal plinth]

this one

[fathom nexus]

Wait...
We have Soulframe fashion established?

[balmy storm]

Ye

[eternal plinth]

Yep!!

Very recently too!

[balmy storm]

The recent update added better customization in terms of colors

[fathom nexus]

It quickly reached endgame huh

[balmy storm]

the transmog system on the other hand needs some work

[eternal plinth]

Dont forget bestitching! Oo oo! hold on!

[balmy storm]

I am not a fan of how they implemented it atm

[eternal plinth]

This is my newest one

[balmy storm]

They have and hopefully will continue to listen to feedback

[eternal plinth]

Paper Bag-esque

[balmy storm]

Which helmet is that? Lmao

[eternal plinth]

Arbears!

[pastel umbra]

I would've never guessed omg, the display image always looked so ..... Interesting

[balmy storm]

Ah!
I must fight Kobacha more then lol

[eternal plinth]

saaame I need those pieces XDD

Anyways back to warframe topic =D

I really like the orokin style

[pastel umbra]

Always in the buff huh

[eternal plinth]

ever since they added it

[eternal plinth]

=)

[pastel umbra]

Minki's design for the orokin are top tier

[eternal plinth]

Oh absolutely

[pastel umbra]

Also the early operator looking more like a violent wraith child

[eternal plinth]

Hahah

[balmy storm]

Love that they added those in the cafe as a tribute

Speaking of fashion
I think my Nokko came out well for my. Fourth draft?

[eternal plinth]

When you get JUST the right lighting =)

[fathom nexus]

Evil

[eternal plinth]

=D

This is my Drifter!

Her eye's bleed the black sun!

||totally not an edgy quote /j||

[balmy storm]

Oooo

[eternal plinth]

^^

getting old warframe flash backs 🥺

[hearty pendant]

i keep seeing screenshots of the new lighting and saying "yea i need to go check that out" and then i continue farming nokko and forget

[eternal plinth]

lol

Eitehr way love the new lighting

Wew! that lighting o . o

Maybe just me, but the fedelity has improved

Okay something is definitely different >.>

[sullen comet]

ahahah I was looking for this mushroom after finding out you can use your tenno/drifter to interact w them

😂 the head is way too big

[night grail]

A few of the effects could easily be made ephemeras

perhaps?

[rain otter]

I mean some of them kinda are.

[night grail]

There's a few akin to vengeful ones

[rain otter]

Like the "auras" are just like the Kuva Lich Ephermas and then the stab one is like coda one. @night grail

Either of these.

I haven't seen all of them yet I am talking about the ones I've seen.

Doesn't Critrine have a like rainbow one

[balmy storm]

She has a rainbow effect but no rainbow ephemera

Which I suspect if they ever release that it will be with her prime

But also any frame can have the effect if you use her idle anims, really nice for captura

[rain otter]

yee.

[sullen comet]

They have the Jade event ephemera for one

Then the Nonono’s ephemera effect is generic void esk

[tight pagoda]

What's the Nonono's negative effect btw?

[sullen comet]

Idk

[tight pagoda]

Is it just MITW laughter?

[sullen comet]

I think it’s just “oh this thing is weird but I don’t understand and it gives me heebie jeebies” poor Nightcap lmao

Similar to Peculiar Audience

We obv know the implications but he doesn’t get the context

[pastel umbra]

I thought it gave him tummy troubles and that's why he doesn't like it

[zenith jacinth]

Incorrect, they can always be found and interacted with

[zenith jacinth]

1. Forehead, beforehead and afterhead
2. Those eyes are terrifyingly wide open

[worldly axle]

whats that armor? i want it

[opaque dove]

Good ol gamma berries

[neon cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/intel-celeron-intel-intel-logo-celeron-gif-12137828753333051125

[atomic halo]

Amazing! 😂

[zenith jacinth]

Dax armor from the SP shop+transmuter hood from baro

[twilit tendon]

So nightcap is shroom

[covert tree]

Ye

[vale cobalt]

*is on shrooms

[twilit tendon]

No

Is shrooms

[wicked iron]

The Teacher is a fantastic quest. 😄 Only two little things I wish were different, but I loved doing the quest. 🙂

[twilit tendon]

I find the teacher quest funny

[balmy storm]

What do you wish was different?

I heard some people weren’t happy about the quest on the tutorial end of things

[opaque dove]

Question; is the thornbak any decent?

[cerulean kiln]

It barely teaches modding at all is the main issue I see

[wicked iron]

The first is the Treasurer, since Deadlock Protocol is so much later that results in the ship retrofits and those folks showing up. The second is the Lotus calling him Teshin Dax, which was something we discovered is his full monicker during War Within.

[wicked iron]

I think it did a great job of showing how mods, ranking them up, dissolving them, and combining elements works.

[twilit tendon]

I found dax roasting those who struggle with modding funny

[cerulean kiln]

I enjoyed Treasurer being introduced earlier as it sort of hints towards to what comes later

[twilit tendon]

It’s perfectly okay

[cerulean kiln]

I wasn’t expecting Thornbak to be good because new player quest