spoiler-chat

[still moat]

i hope they likewise make Seek highlight enemy weakpoints specifically

[wispy jasper]

Whoops, better sonar released. My Banshee cope will be in shambles.

I appreciate they do make him want to aim at stuff though

[still moat]

i can imagine a lot of players haven't bothered memorizing what the weakpoints of infested without heads are

Silence is still relevant, mind!

Mostly in that it shuts down Eximus abilities, which nothing about the ability actually states.

no shoulder pobber for trinity 😔

i guess i'm only looking to get volt then

[wispy jasper]

Resupply seems fun for a handful of bad weapons

[still moat]

it doesnt refill your ammo, only your current magazine

that sounds like micromanagement hell to try to rely on

or maybe it does and the magazine refill is a bonus

we'll have to see

[wispy jasper]

The one decree magazine refill effect ais extra bullets as stands

Imagine will work same

[still moat]

i genuinely don't think i've ever triggered that decree.

probably because it starts off with like 10% odds on kill

or rather, i might have triggered it, but since i tend to reload after a few kills instead of running down a 200 round magazine, i've never actually noticed its effects

[wispy jasper]

Depending on how element selection works maybe resupply can make blast Tigris real

[still moat]

im sure it'll be selecting from the four base elements

"hold the ability to cycle modes" type powers tend to have 4 options at best to cycle through

and they've never offered combined elements for that before

[wispy jasper]

Most likely. But I will dream

At least the way warframe works it’s just a faction select button so won’t have too much pain as a cycle

[still moat]

maybe it'll have a strong status chance

like selecting ice will let you freeze over units in two or three shots, letting you follow up with a headshot

combined with cold proc's bonus to critical damage, which im sure the snipers will have plenty of

from the look of the comic...

lorewise, the protoframes were normal people transformed into the base warframes part-way- and that only included the warframe's biological components. Shields are distinctly missing, and armor is likely missing, too.

oh, neat, 3d printed miniatures.

https://www.warframe.com/news/printable-protoframe-miniatures-from-hoku-props

[north hamlet]

Wait, Eleanor's tongue in the comic, I've seen it before… oh no

[obtuse gyro]

shield gating might not exist, but based on when we get gameplay they do have shields, and the armour is already existing in their flesh

like its not an additional thing, their flesh is the armour

[still moat]

gameplay wise they have shields, of course, but gameplay/story(lore) segregation is a thing in media

[obtuse gyro]

I mean sure ludonarrative dissonance and all that, but the only thing that can be called missing is the shields

[still moat]

if they had proper warframe armor in their transformed bits, taking a single bullet wouldn't be listed as the concern that it is

[obtuse gyro]

because the armour is right there

[obtuse gyro]

your frame still takes the bullets

[still moat]

most frames are pretty squishy with their shields down, but they usually take at least a little concentrated fire before they go down, compared to catching one stray round

[obtuse gyro]

it wasnt a stray round that took them out, they were riddled with bullets

[still moat]

oh, not that

yeah, that ambush at the end is 100% valid

i meant this part

the bit at the end seemed like a bit of a nod to the revive mechanic.

[obtuse gyro]

Mind you this is before they took the next round of serum

but also, your warframe still takes the bullet

[still moat]

I suppose it might be progressive.

[scarlet basalt]

cyte abilities are simple
But god this sounnd like an effective fighter

[thick jolt]

just noticed that railjack keybindings have a mysterious ability D setting

[formal grove]

looking at Cyte-09's kit

imagine how terrified the Grineer and Corpus would be if you combined Seek with powerhouse weapons like the Kuva Chakkhurr

one moment everything's fine, the next moment there's a hole in the wall and your buddy's been turned into paint all over the room

[scarlet basalt]

Cyte-09 2 ability synergize very well with the specifics arcane that require elements to proc

bcz i don't think they will give us corro or other mixed elements lmao

[still moat]

evade could be really good or really mediocre, depends on how short the duration is

then again

[thick jolt]

im gonna guess similar to ash

[still moat]

my benchmark for 'really annoyingly brief' invisiblity is like, Ash

and while Ash was Not That Great as a stealth frame back in the day

more duration mods have come out since then you can stack

and i do see him in pubs with his smoke cloud augment, so who knows?

[scarlet basalt]

IIRC you can only extend his invisibility through duration
Cyte only need to kill

[still moat]

yeah, but when you mention 'short duration invis'

there's a short list. ash is short, loki is medium, ivara and octavia are long

[scarlet basalt]

voruna's short

[still moat]

well, octavias more medium too

[still moat]

i forgot voruna existed

voruna's invis duration barely matters

[scarlet basalt]

I think it will be voruna's short but you need to kill to extend

[still moat]

because it gets canceled by attacking, it's realistic duration is "the space between one melee swing on an enemy and the next"

[oblique dirge]

vorunas has decent duration, but it ends as soon as you do any attack other than her 4, even silenced weapons break it. so you cant use it like the others

[thick jolt]

ash is shorter than vorunas

voruna is base 14 ash is 8

[still moat]

most people dont bother spending energy on a buff that lasts approximately 4 seconds :p

[scarlet basalt]

Also i think it will have a big CD bcz it really feels like the fact that you can extend,heal through it...

[oblique dirge]

the melee buff part of it lasts a lot longer than 4 seconds and thats the only part that really matters

[still moat]

Could be. Abilities with built-in extension mechanics do tend to have cooldowns sometimes, if Gyre is any indication.

[scarlet basalt]

gyre when you don't kill 15 ennemies in 10 second, getting a cooldown of 60 sec

very interested on his 4 tho
We're closer and closer getting literal ricochet mod

i think DE may add a mod that will make ricochet on headshot in this mainline, which would make much more sense since torid is literally melting the game

[flat magnet]

Interesting way they’ve managed to keep his exalted sniper usable in a AOE meta

[prime raptor]

It’s a shame that it won’t be possible to put primary arcanes in it

give me exalted weapons arcane enhancement and my life is yours

[amber terrace]

This has probably been commented on a morbillion times, buuuuuut THIS LOOKS SO GOOD AEUKDJAIDSUKFJKNsdksdkjsf

[digital hearth]

Weird question: How will the Gemini stuff work exactly?

Are they going to be somthing that can be toggled on and off during missions. (And will they work with stuff like tennogen skins?)

[amber terrace]

So far as I understand it, the Gemini skins can be toggled in mission via emote, and are customized separate of the base Warframe(I think)

[digital hearth]

Oooooh, this gives me alot of new ideas now.

[digital hearth]

Also why does the Drifter on the right remind me of Michael from GTA? lol

[amber terrace]

Idk, all I know is that I’m getting both bundles because they look absolute flames 🔥

[digital hearth]

I'm going broke for sure on December lol.

[amber terrace]

I don’t care for the Gemini skins(I don’t use these Warframes enough to warrant the purchase) but the drifter suits look amazing

Were it not for the fact that I recently ordered a Warframe shirt, I’d totally get the Entrati eye logo shirt if it comes

Whiny moment
Idk who I’m gonna romance when 1999 comes,
Arthur isn’t my type
Aoi clearly has other priorities
Eleanor is scary
Quincy isn’t my type either
Amir feels more like an eccentric but ultimately endearing and well meaning younger sibling than a romantic interest
I feel like Lettie would be really hard to romance

[rain otter]

HE DOES HAVE A EXLATED RIFLE

i WAS LIED TO

[amber terrace]

And that’s only if DE decides to make the romance system mandatory, because if it isn’t required to progress in the update, I’m gonna not romance the Hex

[rain otter]

evade seems really really good.

[amber terrace]

Invisibility is invincibility type beat?

[fading current]

They confirmed there’s options to be friends with them, romance them, or just flat out ignore any type of relationship with them.

[soft pumice]

Christmas Mooney

[soft pumice]

I knew he had a ability sniper since the devs confirmed that all while ago

[amber terrace]

Thank goodness 😮‍💨

[umbral cove]

Eleanor is scary

XD

[rain otter]

All I remembered is that they like said the rifle he had in priviews wasn't his exalted. So in my mind that meant he didn't have one but yeah it makes sense that he would have one.

[amber terrace]

Eleanor is scary in the sense that she can dig around in my brain without me wanting her to do that

[soft pumice]

Has anyone tried calling this number?

[soft pumice]

Digs around finding all the thoughts I see of her.

[amber terrace]

In the metro phone in the metro website.

Please Do Not Call The Number On Your IRL Phone.

[balmy storm]

Same

[soft pumice]

Aww so they didn't do a Bethesda. And actually make it a automatic phone number

That would replay within the theme the universe

[amber terrace]

I don’t want someone to be looking around in my noggin without my direct knowledge or consent, very icky no good

[nova harness]

I wanna know what happens if I call that number on my actual phone now

[soft pumice]

Tells is what happened

[amber terrace]

Please don’t. Did we learn nothing from the Zariman ARG?

[digital hearth]

I found this out the hard way lol.

[balmy storm]

While true that could lead to not so good things I for one am okay with that, at least if its Eleanor

[balmy storm]

Komi…?

[nova harness]

Chat I might make the sacrifice and find out

[amber terrace]

Wasn’t there a number for one of the recent ARG’s that lead to an IRL pharmacy that got them harassed by Warframe players?

[soft pumice]

Internal name for the snake foes was slinky XD

Found some of my tennocon photos

[balmy storm]

Tagfer cube tagfer cube

[balmy storm]

Yup

[nova harness]

DE thought players wouldn’t do it lol

DE should’ve made a phone number that wasn’t actually real

[rain otter]

the number didn't go to that if you did it correctly.

[nova harness]

Yeah but Warframe players are impulsive

[soft pumice]

I still find it funny how they explained when they first animated tagfer they basically animated him like a extremely happy and loyal strong willed dog. To be told after showing it off he's supposed to be extremely depressed. So we got to see what tagfer looked before he lost ming.

[jovial bison]

Is there a recording of this anywhere?

[balmy storm]

And now my depression has strengthened

[soft pumice]

Can't send anything longer than 60 seconds clips on discord sorry

And only clip I have of it was 30 minutes

[balmy storm]

Could you post it on youtube and send that link here maybe?

[jovial bison]

That would be awesome if you could!

[balmy storm]

Or if not youtube maybe make some clips from the video? Whatever may be interesting or notable
Thats a lot more effort though

[soft pumice]

The workshop where fun

[balmy storm]

Nice

I hope I can go to a tennocon someday

[soft pumice]

My videos appeared to have been deleted reee

Curse you Google

[balmy storm]

):

[soft pumice]

Bald Arthur

Found this by looking back in messages iv sent around tennocon

[balmy storm]

Is it okay if I share this with some people :o

[soft pumice]

Go ahead not like anyone really knows this even happened

There was like only 50 people attending this workshop

And I was the only one to chear on the animators for makeing the make feel smooth with the fluid animations.

[balmy storm]

They did an amazing job ngl

[soft pumice]

I bet the 5 animators there felt so joy from me cheering them on for all the work they do

[proper frost]

I know we don't have a date yet for 1999, but anyone else thinking it's coming around the time the mall relay leaves?

[tight pagoda]

The mall’s going away in 2 weeks, so around Dec 6th. The Game Awards are December 12th/13th, just one week after. I’m betting it’ll drop then, with a little short promo at TGA like they had for Whispers last year.

Arthur and Aoi being in a relationship is so funny considering we as the Drifter have the opportunity to romance one of them

[tropic ridge]

Anyone got a translation for the Tenno language used in the 1999 comic?

Tried using the English-to-Tenno generator but can't figure it out

[warm anvil]

oh was this at the workshop in the ventkids lounge?

[soft pumice]

Yeep

[warm anvil]

i didn't go to that bc i wanted to save my seat (lost it anyways) and i wanted to look at the panels :(

[soft pumice]

Not going to lie I had a headache after the party

[brittle plank]

are loid and albrecht... you know

[tight pagoda]

Yes

[brittle plank]

roomates

[flat magnet]

Chilling in a hot tub, Sitting closer than 5 feet apart

[fierce summit]

Seven hours post-request but here's the translations of the Orokin from the comic

[brittle plank]

so that's why warframe was on the list

[flat magnet]

What list?

[brittle plank]

the woke games list

[scarlet basalt]

the woke list

[brittle plank]

[flat magnet]

Ain’t no way

A small pride event that has no effect on the game it’s just a shop for pride based stuff and minor character / warframe lore makes it “not recommended”

[brittle plank]

i think we know the real reason

atlas is too hot and the op of the list was threatened

[flat magnet]

Atlas made them rock hard and it scared and confused them

“Overtly Pro-LGBTQ+ messaging” I never noticed, where do they get that from?

[nova harness]

This is why lists of anything are irrelevant

[flat magnet]

Didn’t even know that it was a thing lol

[nova harness]

Woke culture is a weird thing

[chilly pine]

"overtly pro lgbtq messaging" where? like we have the pride month event and the loid/albrecht relationship. atleast its not that one questline in veilguard or whatever that those people have been up in arms about

[flat magnet]

Another one I can think of is Xaku being non binary but like how is that overtly pro

[chilly pine]

equinox too, but theres reasons for that and its such a minor thing like

[fierce summit]

Y'all are thinking too much into this; I can guarantee that the author of that list bases 60% of their takes on hearsay and vibes

[nova harness]

Don't DE have events for pretty much everything?

[merry onyx]

Ticker being a trans woman is the most in your face queerness we had
Maroo and Varzia I suppose

[flat magnet]

Wow I completely forgot about equinox when they have a male and female form

[flat magnet]

Wait he is??

[weak peak]

Not sure if someone's brought this up already, but this singular piece from Albrecht's notes, doesn't it give us a rough idea of how many years Warframe takes place on? I know 1999 is "an earth not like ours" but that's the whole point of this being a videogame with creative liberties

[flat magnet]

Wow I do not pay attention to the little details

[merry onyx]

She's been a trans woman from release

[fierce summit]

i.e., Warframe's in-game chat is infamous for having a lot of trigger words, ergo the game must be woke

[chilly pine]

lets see, valentines, pride month, halloween, christmas, theres dog days and plague star too, and thats i think the list of yearly events

[nova harness]

Actually, it’s 2 female forms one just looks male

[flat magnet]

Isn’t the earth not like ours referring to IRL earth not warframe universe earth

[brittle plank]

cause warframe has good representation

[chilly pine]

i didnt even know those were a thing soo

[brittle plank]

they are actual characters

[nova harness]

Alternate Earth to our own

[weak peak]

I know, that's what I meant. 1999 earth is one not like ours. It's a parallel universe. If 1999 is a parallel universe, then Warframe itself is

[flat magnet]

I thought that was well understood?

[brittle plank]

isnt the point of warframe that all realities and whatnot can coexist and interact

all outcomes of a situation

[nova harness]

Theoretically

It's not an end all be all

[weak peak]

Well yes but that only comes to light when we need to explain why the operator and drifter exist at the same time

I haven't seen it come up anywhere else

[nova harness]

It also explains Cross play

[weak peak]

Does it really

I think that's just gameplay-wise

[brittle plank]

true but i do think its interesting when games try to explain gameplay mechanics with lore

like dark souls

[nova harness]

There Can Be Only One

Are you familiar with the philosophy of Eternalism? The notion that all possible permutations of the present moment are real?

I never had much time for it. The distasteful notion that there could be multiple Baro Ki'Teers! Can you imagine? Yours is truly one of a kind.

As it happens, during my last foray into the Void, a dashing stranger presented me with the opportunity to refine all my selves into a single perfect individual. Of course, I shook hands on the deal immediately.

Now every Tenno will visit the same Baro Ki'Teer, with the same items, at the same time.

As this singularity comes into focus, you will notice my offerings remain the same for my next three visits. A minor inconvenience.

I am certain there will be no future unforeseen consequences from this momentous deal.

Singularly yours,

Baro Ki'Teer

[flat magnet]

Was this a mail he sent when they synced the relays?

[nova harness]

Yes

[weak peak]

Hih

Huh*

[nova harness]

Actually, no

I think he says it when we go to a relay

[weak peak]

I've never heard him say this

[atomic halo]

That woke game list is funny.

[weak peak]

Unless he says this for tennocon tickets

Which I guess would make sense

[flat magnet]

I mean the sign off suggest it’s a mail

[weak peak]

Yeah

[chilly pine]

a dashing stranger presented me with the opportunity to refine all my selves into a single perfect individual. Of course, I shook hands on the deal immediately.
so thats means, albrecht, rell, us and baro have all had interactions with wally? (assuming its wally because that seems like something wally wouldve done)

[nova harness]

He actually sends 2 and I think one was mail and one was a relay quote

One System For All

Tenno!

You will hardly believe the scope of my achievements. Even I am a little giddy, I confess.

As a result of my little arrangement, the realms are not merely aligned. They have connected. And the walls between them have come tumbling down.

You may now, if you choose, socialize, sojourn and sally forth with Tenno from other dimensions of existence!

Cross freely. Come together as never before.

What a magnificent bargain I, Baro Ki'Teer, have struck. I do hope that charming stranger passes my way again.

I fancy I can hear opportunity rap-tap-tapping at my door, even now!

Baro Ki'Teer

[rain otter]

i mean our game has like evil poly couple and it's literally about brining down systems of power and beating the current rulers of a system.

cuz anyone with that much power becomes evil.

[chilly pine]

okay so he absolutely made a deal with wally, fun

[brittle plank]

50 percent off plat coupon

[soft pumice]

[scarlet basalt]

We do 100 kill per minute

[nova harness]

Funny thing is the charming stranger he was referring to was a copy of him

[atomic halo]

I just think it's weird that "woke messaging" gets it a mark. But borderlands is fine because "no woke content". So it can have gay/bisexual characters just cant talk about them?

[rain otter]

well den you see. they like that game.

[chilly pine]

was it actually a copy of him, or wally disguised as him?

[brittle plank]

does getting the grimoire give you a free weapons slot

[rain otter]

so it can't be woke. just like the other apolticial games like bioshock new vegas and Deus Ex. @atomic halo

[nova harness]

Wally copies the appearance of 99% of people he meets remember

Meaning Baro likes the look of himself

[rain otter]

lmao

[brittle plank]

they like it so its just yellow

[rain otter]

Oh they say portal 1 isn't woke but portal 2 is.

i looked at the list before it is very funny.

also my steam library is very woke so i am very gald about it.

[atomic halo]

The 2 implies a second portal, so the portals could be gay?

😂

[rain otter]

wait do you now what portal is?

[chilly pine]

which is why i asked the question, because of course wally would look like him, and baro does seem the kind of guy to find himself handsome

[rain otter]

it's the vaule game with portals.

[atomic halo]

The cake is a lie. Yeah i know portal.

[rain otter]

with the gayest relationship i have ever seen between a protag and a villain in a game.

like literally "hey run through my test chambers and have this cube of love"

[brittle plank]

well

[rain otter]

i wonder what this game means.

anyway.

I have a tumblr meme somewhere.

[brittle plank]

tf is tennokai

[rain otter]

free heavy attack

[chilly pine]

i wonder if hogwarts legacy is on that list, and what is said about it, dont recall anything woke about it except that one trans character

[rain otter]

that doesn't consume combo

[flat magnet]

Better heavy atk

[rain otter]

also melee arcanes.

[brittle plank]

the weird fish thing gave me some stuff for it

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/464947245419331585/1088514467706454046/get_a_load_of_this_fenc.gif

[rain otter]

not a thing

just a fish.

he has a name it's Fib.

[scarlet basalt]

once the woke lister will see ember heirloom they will remove that game from the woke list

[soft pumice]

🎣

[brittle plank]

did they ever fix that one nova skin

the lighting was always super faint on it

[rain otter]

do you think woke people hate butts?

i feel like woke people like butts the most tbh.

[brittle plank]

putting tennokai on the ripkas for the luls

[flat magnet]

All my homies hate Fib

[rain otter]

i don't.

[brittle plank]

i wish ripkas was better tbh its my favorite melee

[flat magnet]

😦

[rain otter]

He stops them all from dying

like all the other test subjects.

[scarlet basalt]

everyone love ember heirloom tho

i love the way they made the skin, the fire on her body and overall how cool it is

[flat magnet]

Wouldn’t have been poisoned with void energy if he didn’t break the bell

[rain otter]

all the other test subjects came back in literal pieces.

[flat magnet]

Minn wouldn’t have died and my boy tagfer would’ve been happier

[rain otter]

he would be dead

they would be death and thus the universe would probably be dead.

[brittle plank]

i think the skin just looks really good

aswell

[rain otter]

cuz They help us get back the book.

[scarlet basalt]

one day we will go search for minn 😔

[flat magnet]

Okay you bring up a good point, my final thing is that I just find him obnoxious

[rain otter]

i do think Minn is probably just dead. It is very sad though. I do like Fibb though.

i like all of them

i love the cavia. i actually got all their irl plushies.

[scarlet basalt]

I just hope we would at least try searching minn, like with tagfer having some void devilry inside of him he could try to track her 😔
Like even a 5 min quest 😔

[viral crag]

Looks like cyte 09 will have infinite invisibility lol

[scarlet basalt]

I hope we will be able to go on top of the building or balcony to fight scaldra's units like how they've shown with the 1999 gameplay

[nova harness]

What you see is what you get for the most part

Minus certain changes

[fierce summit]

That tile appears in the demo map, it's like halfway through

[rain otter]

Okay infinity invisibility isn't actually that broken.

Like wisp has basically that

As a passive.

Ivaras drain is so low its also infinite.

[rain otter]

I do think the ability is good though. I actually I am really interested in the exalted sniper and the 2 though. We only have like 2(?) Exalted guns and they are both good.

[soft pumice]

I'm excited about the resupply ability

[balmy storm]

Peacemakers and Ivara’s bow

[soft pumice]

Don't forget hyildrin

[rain otter]

Oh the bow does count huh. I was thinking titina and mesa.

[rain otter]

Hyildrin is so good now in her 4.

[zenith jacinth]

Based on those abilities cyte might be a good frame for my playstyle

[balmy storm]

Titania has arch weapons

[rain otter]

she does?

lmao

[chilly pine]

noctua (dantes 1) peacemakers (mesa 4) artemis bow (ivara 4) dex pixia (titania 4) whatever hildryns exalted gun is called, i thiiiiiink thats it for exalted guns(cant remember if jade counts here or not), titania excalibur and valkyr i think all have exalted melees aswell.

[tight pagoda]

Baruuk: Desert Wind (Melee, Fist/Sparring)
Dante: Noctua (Grimoire/Pistol)
Excalibur: Exalted Blade (Sword)
Garuda: Talons (claws, only when no other melee is equipped)
Hildryn: Balefire Charger (Pistol)
Jade: Glory (counts as Pistol)
If you wanna count Khora: Venari (Kavat)
Mesa: Regulators (Pistols)
Sevagoth: Shadow (Warframe?), Claws (Melee?)
Titania: Dex Pixia (Archgun, uses pistol mods), Diwata (Archmelee, uses melee mods)
Valkyr: Talons (Claws)
Wukong: Iron Staff (Staff)
Yareli: Melurina (K-Drive)

[flat magnet]

Looks back on the original railjack

[balmy storm]

you already can do that in the demo, its just some are inaccessible

[earnest temple]

iron staff is a staff and not a polearm lol

[pliant saffron]

So I had a funny thought. If resupply is the helminth, I can get 4 toxin procs a bullet with a setup

[lucid sand]

I'm hoping with C9 having an exalt, we'll get arcanes for exalted weapons.

[flat magnet]

I doubt it

[lucid sand]

Plz, Excal needs a buff to his dinky lil sword

Wukong too tbh

[upbeat kiln]

What weapon do yall think ordis would use as a sentinel? I've been thinking he might be a Verglas user but am open to other ideas

[tight pagoda]

He’d use a necramech

[upbeat kiln]

That would be sick

[soft pumice]

Red color letting off his rage useing https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Vulcax

I already do this combo with the skin

Orids channels his rage into z energy blSt

[upbeat kiln]

I like that lol

[arctic sorrel]

huge thing for #2 would be some way to give OVERGUARD to our Operator / Drifter

[tight pagoda]

Swapping out Class abilities would go crazy hard

[rain otter]

Okay I agree they need to do more with it BUT Zariman was a BIG BUFF in our power and Health and shields. we didn't have shields or as much health for Ops as we do now. Like Now we can actually kill things with our operators/drifters and we use the abilites pretty often before you never did and you only used Zen. Now we have like 3 usable trees getting focus is easy cuz of many changes and like the operator is strong. Like just the you KIll things as operator being a good ability and the fact they can kill things is so much. I will always take more though. I feel like Vaz and naramon are pretty close to being usable tbh.

[arctic sorrel]

cool, they literally made one more reason for Kuva Argonak to be a thing for frames that aren't Cyte-09
also no Form Up equivalent on any of the abilities for squad cohesion, truly sad, here's hoping some future frame has that

I'm gonna laugh so hard if that becomes the helminth ability while there's still no Kuva Argonak yet
I may wave my hands in the air & just switch to Torid Incarnon instead or whatever, not like I'll actually miss the Amalgam dagger strip mod when it's so niche now anyway
(that or perhaps even take a hiatus, especially since this year proved I'll increasingly have other 'real life' situations to survive, again 🤮)

[atomic halo]

It's gotta be 1 or 2.

[warm anvil]

isn't there an operator abikity that grants something similar to that?

[warm anvil]

im thinking it's going to be his 2 as a helminth ability

[arctic sorrel]

no
Operator / Drifter has no Overguard currently, at least not outside of Duviri content anyway

[warm anvil]

oh what ability provides protection again

like guardian shield or something

[arctic sorrel]

Vazarin has something that gives 500 "health" in a buff like Voidrig's 2 or whatever, but it doesn't provide knockdown protection like Overguard does

it's basically not the same thing as Overguard

[warm anvil]

oh yeah nvm it's a frontal shield anyways apparently

[undone lodge]

He would inherit the Jade Light

[earnest temple]

I feel like ordis would use something like the deconstructor that shoots blades

[scarlet basalt]

It feels like maybe the tileset of 1999 will be peak ngl
It will allow various gameplay for you so you can fight scaldra/infestation

Maybe wayyyy better than the labs which are pretty good but lack a lot of strategic placements

[tiny ibex]

what I hope though is we actually visit some of the landmarks we see in the background

maybe they will be some sort of dungeon or maybe new tileset?

but maybe I am expecting too much

[scarlet basalt]

maybe a second update to 1999 we will see why the stadium literally launched into space

[tiny ibex]

maybe lol

to be fair I do expect expansion to it after launch, I just hope it's something significant

[scarlet basalt]

i think it will just be the size of dante's unbound

sure i hope a rusalka/viktor boss fight tho...

but that's too much expected bcz they will release 6 boss fight in 1999

in comparison witw released 5 boss fight (3 different fragmented one and 2 different whispers)

[tiny ibex]

yeah the lab I feel for the most part was kind of done on release, yeah we got a new mode that's mostly just adapted, some new rooms and the EDA, but technically that's not really new new

I just feel like the city has a lot more potential

and those backgrounds are too much of a tease lol

in the lab when you look "outside" it's more of the same, Duviri well nothing apart from the islands

but here there's so much potentially good stuff

[scarlet basalt]

mhh they confirmed that the underground will be playable as well
So i don't know if they will make the stadium playable in 1999, i feel that there's a big change since they could just re-use railjack's one tbh

[midnight mango]

Whats dis thing name

It's such an adorable and beautiful creature

[night grail]

Desert skate

Found in the sands of mars

[midnight mango]

do u think it's adorable?

[scarlet basalt]

hell no

[night grail]

Cute in an ugly way

[left slate]

...but that's its nose

[scarlet basalt]

i hope 1999 is fun and "hard" in some ways
I guess they will make them base level 60-65 ?

[viral crag]

Yeah and it’s broken too? Also ivara is slow af while Invis so there’s that, and wisps isn’t really infinite u do have to jump through some hoops (pun not intended) to be invisible constantly

I mean I’m not complaining just saying looks like a really good ability

[plush swan]

Assemble the Hex in your Arsenal instantly thanks to this complete suite of Protoframe Gemini Skins and corresponding Gemini Emotes.

Hmm... looks like maybe you'll be able to get them without plat?

Because they say "instantly", implying there's a non-instant way

[narrow meteor]

Bro... you think steel path isn't hard enough🫠

[scarlet basalt]

Steel path isn't hard because of one thing : they're buffing C.C on nyx 😭

and every other C.C is busted

sure the true issue of steel path is getting CC'd by acolytes but then not much is happening

[tiny ibex]

I assume they will be balanced a bit like labs

[narrow meteor]

they should buff low usage frames in thr anual usage report i guess/

[scarlet basalt]

mhhh i do think that this will be on the level of labs ngl

The scaldra ennemies does wayyyyyy more dmg than current grineer/corpus btw

[crisp bison]

E

[thick jolt]

Pretty sure a lot of people dont find steel path hard

[tiny ibex]

depends, there's always a lot of new players who have issues with them

it's easy when we already have a bunch of good mods maxed out to start a build, but getting into SP can be difficult without say a good arcane

[thick jolt]

Very true

Honestly all the talks about lvl cap scare me

[scarlet basalt]

level cap suck
There's nothing there, only 9999 ennemies and sometime 10003

[thick jolt]

Not even roguelikes get me to stick around for that long

[scarlet basalt]

at least circuit level cap is good

[wispy jasper]

The level cap issue as I see it is that it’s the opposite of how you want difficulty to work. You don’t increasingly struggle to fight enemies after 1000 or so, you just solve the game and it washes along at the same mind numbing pace from there.

[scarlet basalt]

level cap woudl be funny if it add 1% speed per level

[wispy jasper]

I mean to be fair level cap is not intended endgame content. The original intent was endless missions would just become impossible to stay in at a certain point

[thick jolt]

Pffft

Risk of rain 2 every enemy has the goat hoof at 100 stacks lol
Now that was a funny way to lose

[wispy jasper]

So it’s lack of a design rather than strictly bad design, I suppose

Let’s do that old arcade game trick. At level 1000 an invincible yeti spawns that will gradually increase speed and eat you if you don’t leave the map.

[tiny ibex]

I wish they do more of what they did with 60 eyes, but not identical to that

make difficult also more about mechanical complexity rather than just boost numbers

not yet sure how, but maybe make enemies randomly spawn with elemental ammo, or say make them have different abilities after certain caps, differenty types of grenades or abilities they yse

like maybe a Nox can eventually throw wide range toxin grenades, or a Napalm uses wide range fire nades

[wispy jasper]

They got to think of some aoe resistance that isn’t overguard, I think. In the first place CC resistance and aoe damage shoulda been separate problems to solve.

[scarlet basalt]

that would be cool, but will they do it 🤔

Sure i hope that DE make more complexity but ngl
in a 3rd person shooter it's hard to see things since you can't go very far with your camera, seeing what is behind you for example

[tiny ibex]

they have the capacity to do it but I guess they need to balance it right

maybe little by little try to make it more complex see how people respond

[scarlet basalt]

Currently,scaldra seems to have more xcomplexity than murmur

Strangely there's no sniper scaldra unit ? like other than the drone

[tiny ibex]

technically the ballon

but idk I have to see more of em before I say, Murmur are quite nicely done overall imo

[scarlet basalt]

I think they will do another EDA for scaldra 😔 maybe it will be way more fun than EDA

[wispy jasper]

Now that you mention there’s a bit of design conflict between the outset of the game being a more linear map progression thing and the endless or broad open missions that are pretty characteristic of longer grinds. Having things spawn in behind you constantly kind of screws things up.

[scarlet basalt]

Actually : now that DE may have thought a way to counter that is from the literal demo : Quincy is seen to literal go to rooftop/balcony to shoot ennemies that could be behind arthur or be stronger than arthur to do some support

Sure it may not be enough but it add a little bit more of teamplay

DE may have thought of making the map less linear and it's very good... And technically bad for us if Scaldra also use the rooftop

[tiny ibex]

hope they do though lol

also, not sure if anyone played that, but Scaldra give me some Cleaner vibes from Division series

[scarlet basalt]

I hope DE may do more about this if we go to Eris's ground for example

[tiny ibex]

they have some of the same weakpoints, and they could do some interesting things

[wispy jasper]

Having more missions where you’re dealing with narrow straight maps is a decent soft way of making precision play more useful yeah

[scarlet basalt]

Cyte-09 is hinted to be wayyy more centered about being skilled 😭 i think DE found a way to counter the nuke meta

[tiny ibex]

we have his skillset and yea it heavily encourages weakpoint hits

[scarlet basalt]

thanks that his 1 allow to show where to hit bcz where the hell are you supposed to hit for infested ?

[scarlet basalt]

infested currently have the worst weakpoint, which make sense but wtf

[tiny ibex]

I think you just gotta spray center mass

And see what happens lmao

at least that's what I do and it generally works for hordes

[scarlet basalt]

his 1 is good for teamplay huh

I hope ressuply will do the same

[tiny ibex]

2 as well if it works like Lavos' augment

[scarlet basalt]

I hopeee DE make cyte-09 like protea, like making more teamplay for everyone

his kit sounds also wayy too good to be helminth'd ngl

[tiny ibex]

he does have some Harrow type of support too by boosting damage

[real niche]

Nah, I suspect his 3 being subsumed off for something

[scarlet basalt]

his 3 sounds that it will be good, but you can just put more dmg for him 🤔
It sounds like it depends

[tiny ibex]

unless they somehow give his 3 a hardcap, it could be great for survivability

[scarlet basalt]

his 2 seems to be veryyyy good for 6 arcanes iirc

[wispy jasper]

This is warframe so you know people are going to subsume off the most iconic part of his kit to make a giant stat block frame

[nova harness]

I wonder how short the duration is

[scarlet basalt]

they're going to subsume his 4 😭

[tiny ibex]

yeah I overall hate subsume I prefer keeping a frame's kit as is and making most out of it, to keep the theme

[real niche]

Probably goes Breach Surge for more damage after hitting an enemy with 4 since that'll get multiple sparks

[scarlet basalt]

oh true breach surge is going crazy with his 4 i fear

[nova harness]

Stealth isn't used much in Warframe and there are frames that do it way better

[real niche]

His 4 already CCs too so 3 is not that impressive

[tiny ibex]

well in theory, he can stay invisble, so he doesn't get shot and now the next danger would be enemy aoe stuff or say toxin, which the healing can help with

[real niche]

Issue is at high levels you usually get one tapped by tox anyway so you just don't want to be hit by it period, making the healing moot.

[wispy jasper]

If the sniper isn’t hushed that will be kind of funny. I’m just assuming they’re giving him full invisibility/invincibility on the cheap

[scarlet basalt]

HUh, i just thought of something :
Surely his 2 is only base elements like cold,toxin,heat,electricity
But doesn't that mean it mayyy be crazy with archon continuity
Since his 4 is still an ability it could in theory proc 3 different elemental ? Toxin,corrosive and something else like viral ?

and cold from his alt fire if you want lmao

and radiation from breach surge fr

[real niche]

Stretch also means he may not need to deci- wait no Exalted weapon anyway, won't get regen when it's on

[tiny ibex]

maybe it works like Noctua?

spending energy just on shot?

does that still prevent regen? I forgto

[scarlet basalt]

IIRC only melee exalt weapons deplete per second
Ivara doesn't deplete per second but per shot

[real niche]

Idk I never used him lol

[scarlet basalt]

So it will likely follow

[real niche]

If it's that then okay Stretch can work, though I wouldn't be surprised if Equilibrium would just output more

[tiny ibex]

Equilibrium definitely does but I guess stretch is better when you cannot kill a lot of enemies but can proc electricity still

[scarlet basalt]

i thinnk cyte 09 will just be peak

Finally they've made a more skill based warframe

[wispy jasper]

Never really been worth going out of your way to use it as your energy source. We don’t ration resources in this house chug that energy.

[scarlet basalt]

I guess there was ivara with her 4's augment

[tiny ibex]

but it's nice seeing the icon among the 20 others in the top corner

[tiny ibex]

yeah I have been enjoying that lately after kinda mindlessly playing say Dante or Revenant

[scarlet basalt]

also huh... I kinda hope that we could open fissure in 1999 but i think they won't do it

Bcz i cannot lie, the current omnia rotation suck, it just feels bad lmao, if you don't void cascade it's just slow and boring

[tiny ibex]

probably might, it's already a thing in say Labs where idk why we get Orokin faction technically

[scarlet basalt]

Murmur survival when you do nothing for 5 minute and sometime there's an acolyte

at least survival conjunction spam with every ennemies they can find 😭

[wispy jasper]

I’d like some other relic options. Walking through maps while everything sunders into ash in a teammate’s wake makes me want to die of boredom.

[tiny ibex]

that's why I do em casually, like say listen to story or something while playing

[wispy jasper]

Why make me even play the missions, honestly. Just spit them into a gacha pull.

[scarlet basalt]

at least you get credit idk

[scarlet basalt]

With trinity having Energy max = health point
It would be strange if Oberon doesn't get the same treatment bcz oberon also only heal health

Jade is huh... Something i guess ?

idk if they will do it on jade since she is already strong but heh

[simple python]

Hello spoiler chat. Kinepage time. Is it supposed to be blank?

[scarlet basalt]

If they will put the phorid rework
Could they put an augmented version of the babau please...

[simple python]

The who.

The Giant Charger?

[nova harness]

Gr8 deals @ Big Bytes Pizza

[simple python]

I know that. That was like... last week's kinepage message

Today's kinepage was blank tho

[nova harness]

We aren't getting one every week

We went like 5 weeks without one before the recent one

[simple python]

Hmn.

So mine is a bug?

[scarlet basalt]

Babau (surely going to change its name) is a literal 1999 lephantis legged one torso but on a smaller scale lmao with also tendrils on their back (?) to attack

[nova harness]

It shows the most recent one released

[simple python]

I was gonna do my usual missions when I heard the kinepage ringtone... lemme show you

[nova harness]

Try replacing it if yours is fully blank

[simple python]

Ah

[scarlet basalt]

Still surprised that DE thought of putting the infested with base corrosive/viral stats for coda variant

[simple python]

OH NEW ONE: Metro Incident - Expect Delays

[simple python]

See the above message pls.

[nova harness]

They finally brought back weekly ones lol

[wicked iron]

#decoding-signal-1999-arg has it all going on there. 😄

[simple python]

I admittedly was fooling around with decorations so I thought maybe it was screwing it up and actually bugged it.

Ah.

Also, thoughts on Cyte 09's abilities?

Wonder what his passive's gonna be.

Also lmao people have broken into the shooting range Quincy set up.

[tiny ibex]

I am not yet sure about his survivability, but most of his kit seems good as long as the sniper is good

[simple python]

The sniper has to be absolutely good.

[scarlet basalt]

Cyte 09 may be a great start for DE to make more skill based abilities instead of current meta, sure it will be niche
Also his 3 may be a weird one, it heal/hide and may be not good to use with his 4 bcz a sniper will likely be very noisy (maybe a mod to fix it ?)
his 1 and 2 seems to be insanely team oriented + insanely good for everyone

[zenith jacinth]

Semi-infinite invisibility and health steal. Very bad survivability, clearly

[simple python]

My Vulkar is... okay it's super buffed from how my Riv settles both cc and cd, but still... 85k is good.

[tiny ibex]

oh no I agree it's good, I think it depends if we have a way to keep it going for long

and if his HP heal will be meaningful

for example I can mod Caliban for more HP, but toxin still kills him fast

[scarlet basalt]

his 3 really feels like it's more about escaping some big danger since you do a backflip or smthg like that lmaooo

[simple python]

His sniper may be uniquely silent if DE chooses to. I WISH they do cause I want a silent sniper but on POE Snipers alert everyone

They may also cap his 3 at 60 decay like Gyre's.

[scarlet basalt]

Wouldn't be strange if it isn't bcz it would mean they would force you to use a specific mod... tho i would not like it

but for a marksman it seems to be a simple,strong and skill based
Which sounds great in paper

his 1 may be insane with qorvex bcz qorvex add 3 punch through to any weapon lmaooo

[tiny ibex]

I like how his 4 achnowledges he needs some sort of way to kill multiple enemies at once with how the game plays

[simple python]

If it's as strong as Dedicated Exalteds tend to be, we have no issues to worry about.

His 1 is the subsume?

[tiny ibex]

we do not know

[simple python]

Thought it'd be like... his 2 or 3.

[tiny ibex]

probably I feel his 2 is a little too strong

[scarlet basalt]

surely make no sense that it will be his 2
And his 3 may be too good

[simple python]

For chat, lemme grab a cap for reference

[tiny ibex]

bigger image

[scarlet basalt]

i'm kinda hyped about cyte09 ngl
He sounds crazy good

[simple python]

Is it a default 1 punchthrough, or like incremented?

Is it Zenith Punchthrough?

[tiny ibex]

I kinda feel he will not keep up with crowd clearing frames, but I do not care at all since I really like how his kit looks

[scarlet basalt]

i hope zenith

[simple python]

Zenith Punchthrough is crazy

[scarlet basalt]

i think he will in his own way

[simple python]

Wonder what they could do for augments here with these...

[tiny ibex]

I can definitely see him excelling at tougher targets though

plus weak spot damage is very rarely found in the game so it's a big plus he has others don't

[simple python]

Oh no contest there. He might also be fun for open world missjons.

Wait is his weakpoints sorta like Banshee's then? Or Helios'?

[scarlet basalt]

LMAOOO it will definitly be a VERY OP Warframe for one reason :
Garuda has an ability that make an enemy invincible
And we can read
"Bullets ricochet off weak points to seek out other nearby weakpoints"

i don't think it will be nerfed bcz Cyte09 want to be on specific spot in maps (to survive better) with how he look like, so it may be a very good way to nuke a map and garuda subsume won't allow him to do that

[simple python]

You think de already knows bloodaltar rather ragdolls and freezes enemies in place for the duration instead of Well of Life's Hover Freeze?

[tiny ibex]

well that is great if it's infinite but I doubt it will go through all enemies

I assume maybe the max targets will scale with some stat

[simple python]

Ragdoll versus Hover means garuda can definitely gain combo and headshots on the ragdoll count towards stuff like incarnon meter.

[scarlet basalt]

I think they do, they're not stupid

[simple python]

Can't wait for Cyte to drop tho. I wanted a sniper frame.

[scarlet basalt]

Since it's a late game and that isn't really needed i don't think they would nerf it bcz you would have to drop an ability
And every ability of cyte09 is needed to function nicely

[simple python]

Cyte with blood altar over his 3 might be crazy.

[scarlet basalt]

like if you remove his 3 you would likely need to do some high shield gating strat

[simple python]

If the weakpoints function.

[scarlet basalt]

His 2 is an insane loss of damage
His 1, an insane loss of damage

[tiny ibex]

guess we have to see what his base stats are too

but I assume invisibility means more glass cannon

[scarlet basalt]

he'll definitly be glass cannon bcz a marksman prioritize dmg over survivability

also a key element for hex survival bcz wtf are they fighting ??

I hope his 1 also show weakpoint, like how zenith work

[simple python]

It probably will but I hope his distance overlap like Zenith will be a bit more transparent.

Tbh that giant thing with Zenith makes precision headshots a bit harder.

[scarlet basalt]

the big zenith circle

i kinda hope DE will let us play every hex member in the quest, would be very fun

[simple python]

It may be they will have us do so.

[vast geode]

i'm fine with picking one at the end if i'm allowed to flirt with every consenting adult i'm given the choice to

and also play everyone's personal quest

[scarlet basalt]

it wouldn't be surprising if phorid rework is like koumei's boss
Introducing a boss and later on it become a common ennemy

[thick jolt]

I mean

Thats kinda what happened with juggernaut back in the day

Good old juggy

[scarlet basalt]

i do think babau will may be the phorid rework ngl

[tight pagoda]

Phorid needs a fix in Invasions. Sometimes it just doesn’t spawn unless you run 100m backwards and approach it again.

It would be good if there was something you had to interact with like with the Jackal

[scarlet basalt]

yeahhh true
Also they've shown the new infested corpus ship tileset but... where is it 😭 ??

my greed know no bound

the endgame of the infested when it's just a literal boss rush

[empty edge]

what are these 😭

[karmic blade]

the gays.

[empty edge]

didnt explain anything ty

[karmic blade]

I honestly don't remember

[empty edge]

lmao

[karmic blade]

I think??? it represents Albrecht and Loid???

[empty edge]

intresting

[nova harness]

I went among the denizens of the plague year like a saviour, my hands filled with healing. To those who volunteered, I brought more than mere health. Their bodies were primed; it needed only the Helminth infusions, brought from my own time, to work the alchemy of transformation. They have become partial warframes, still in possession of their free will, yet enhanced, Void-attuned, capable.

Their humanity may not last. My deliverance may yet consume them, the human swallowed up in the sacred beast. And if my wayward disciples turn on me, what words of comfort shall I have beyond: this is the bargain we have made. Through our sacrifice, history will be saved.

As their loyal doctor, I have taken repeated samples from them. The sight of their Technocyte-riddled cells mutating gave me fresh visions. I could take this material, work with it, forge new creations. Eagerly I brought the samples back to Deimos and began to cultivate them.

It was Loid who pointed out the singular attributes of the Gray Strain. How it stimulates growth to monstrous dimensions. Many thoughts converged on me then. What if, through precise biochemical engineering, I could create the equivalents of warframes, yet built to a titanic scale? Surely such a legion could stand against the Adversary… assuming, of course, that an Operator could be found.

Not long after, the first of my Vessels took form. A giant to battle giants, merging the humanity of the man Arthur, the anatomical perfection of Ballas' warframes, and the titanic potency of the Gray Strain. My saviours.

[karmic blade]

That's what it represents?!

[nova harness]

That's what they are

The scene was more of a nod than an actual representation

[tight pagoda]

I think this particular embrace is representing Loid’s final memory of Albrecht, fighting back the Indifference with a major positive emotion— love.

[nova harness]

It was mostly a nod to that scene

Vessels weren't designed to represent that specifically

[tight pagoda]

Of course, it seems the implication is that there was some sort of Transference thing going on

Operator was about to be crushed by the Vessel MITW was piloting, then it’s revealed they teleported into another vessel at the last moment. You do a button mash and expect that they’re going to fight

Instead, the button mash leads to an embrace

[amber terrace]

I’ve heard people on the internet talking about how Albrecht was acting off in the comics. Correct me if I’m interpreting this wrong,
A.) there is a nonzero possibility that this is The Indifference assuming the comics take place after Albrecht’s last trip to ‘99
B.) This is a side of Albrecht that Loid never saw or talked about. I would like to remind the audience that Albrecht is Orokin at the end of the day and just because he doesn’t treat Loid how Ballas treated Space Mom, that doesn’t mean that he wasn’t a piece of work

[wispy jasper]

Frankly every piece of evidence we have about Albrecht is to that effect. Loid as much as anyone suffered apparent grief from how callous Albrecht could be even with those he was closest to.

From the details of the segment Nemesis posted earlier seems to be every indication that’s pre-Indifferenced Albrecht

[scarlet basalt]

Albrecht was acting off in the comics
The same guy who sacrificied animals ? The same guy who put eldritch monsters inside books ? The same guy who left duviri in shamble as he told them what is outside of duviri ? The same guy who made scaldra (confirmed that doktor friday is him from the comics + that he "cured" the hex) + Said a field test for the hex
Am i crazy or it's literally in touch with him bcz of how crazy he is?

[tight pagoda]

His speech bubble being inverted is definitely interesting

Did Rell’s mother have the same effect in his comic?

[scarlet basalt]

The entrati are still insane people

idk which one is worse, ballas or albretch 😭

[amber terrace]

Ballas. By leaps and miles, he subjugated the entire system because he couldn’t get over a breakup that was his fault and when he couldn’t get his way he threw a narcissist tantrum and tried to destroy the whole system

[wispy jasper]

Albrecht’s intentions are not as evil, but good argument for him unintentionally mucking the whole thing up more than anyone. But you could also say he was the best choice if you had to choose the one who initially opened Pandora’s box to try to at least wrangle the demons.

[scarlet basalt]

his method are questionable and his act are insane

I kinda hoped that in the zariman we would have more Tuvul's insane method to make the zariman crew being tamed
Maybe more dialogue from him

[wispy jasper]

Albrecht absolutely was a self-centered egomaniac. But that’s not all he is. He’s an interesting character.

[scarlet basalt]

yep, i'm surprised that he is still alive ngl 😭

I really hope that in 1999 we will hear kallymos's voice 🙏

also do we know why Kallymos is always with albretch ? is she just travelling with her or she is mainly for defense against infestation ?

[wispy jasper]

it’s a good point that even most of the remaining Entrati we are providing extensive family therapy for are not quite all there when it comes to immediate humanity. We worked them up from some pretty wild starting positions.

[scarlet basalt]

"You killed everyone ? Well, help us"

[tight pagoda]

Haven’t you heard of a little thing called Loyalty

[scarlet basalt]

i'm loyal to my... i don't have any 😦

[tight pagoda]

I do hope there’s a reason beyond just making the scenes look mystical

After all, Kalymos was a significant part of Lotus Eaters

[scarlet basalt]

since the cavia are the threshold that the indifference shall not cross
Then kallymos and albretch would attack the indifference ? or maybe more about planning the attack

[tight pagoda]

I wonder if Wally is somehow incapable of damaging Void-touched beings?

Just driving them crazy

[obtuse gyro]

Just wally or is his extensions included

[tight pagoda]

My dumbahh forgot about the entire Murmur enemy type

[scarlet basalt]

if the invert is also true it make much more sense that he is spamming vessels

even tho we can hit murmur with void amp

huh maybe we're fighting to very low of the murmur now that i think about it
bcz like he could just make... Bigger monsters lmao which would make the vessels way more handy

[tight pagoda]

The scary thing with Wally is that he doesn’t need to create some giant threat, he doesn’t need to operate on the physical level

[scarlet basalt]

His part of the void is gigantic
But to be threatening he only need to make very tiny thing in comparison to him ngl

We can't see the void in his domain but in duviri we can see the void

[tight pagoda]

IMO they made his “True Form” way too small

https://tenor.com/view/the-man-in-wall-warframe-gif-24269482

His mouth alone should fill the entire screen

And then maybe cut to a different shot further back when he says the words

Never mind I just remembered he’s saying them as he’s approaching too

[scarlet basalt]

I think he Just vary his size

[zenith jacinth]

He has no true form as far as we know, that one is simply a mockery of his most common name

But also if you look up on the cliff in the sanctum there's a much larger version of it above the huge wall

[scarlet basalt]

He is also a lidless eye and a literal wall of bone wtf 😭😭

[zenith jacinth]

And also just a concept/emotion (indifference)

[nova lark]

Umm, I need a story mission help... "Destroy Harrow's chains" cant hit anything...

[tight pagoda]

Use your amps, and use the Simaris traps

[nova lark]

Even here?

Im at the end

Using my amp, used simaris trap, nada damage

[tight pagoda]

Maybe try Void slinging into it?

[nova lark]

You need to hit the really hard to see glowing ones

[cobalt scroll]

anyone know what male OP voice is this

[night grail]

Heron i believe

[cobalt scroll]

ok thanks

[chilly merlin]

Can someone explain that "call" i just did? I'm soo confused... lotus at the edge of the laboratory thing...

[wispy jasper]

It's a continuation from the Whispers in the Wall stuff. Maybe let's start with what you remember about Albrecht's project from there, cause we might have to delve a little ways back depending

[chilly merlin]

Not alot... my game crashed and I missed a bunch of cut scenes...

he was doing stuff with those giant things and the robots. thats about all i know.... (had a bad time when it came to cutscenes since newwar cause my PC kept crashing or people getting in the way...)

[nova harness]

What robots?

[chilly merlin]

im probably miss remembering...

[opal minnow]

I'm not sure if I should put this here or in #builds-discussion , BUT I already know what is going to be Cyte's strongest build:

Combat discipline, power drift
Blind rage, archon intensify, archon stretch, primed flow
Narrow minded, archon continuity, equilibrium, flex slot for a future augment probably.

Arcane avenger, molt agumented/arcane icestorm(not sure yet)

With a blast and toxic equalizer, primary blight statstic rifle(maybe argonak while giving him a dagger)

And subsuming silence over his first honestly.

[undone lodge]

They probably mean the necramechs

[chilly merlin]

i think so. honestly lore im really confused at now.... 😦

basicaly everything after newwar is just confusing to me because of device issues

[opal minnow]

The abridged version:

Upon Ballas's defeat by the operator/drifter(depending on your choice loading into the mission), dormant memories are awoken in the necrhaloid named Loid. Loid begins the Kalimos Sequence, a plan made by Albernec Entrati as a countermeasure against the void.

Phase one of the Kalimos Sequence was already completed, where Albernec Entrati went back in time to the year 1999, before the void's discovery, as an attempt to escape the clutches of the man in the wall(the manifestation of the will of the void, taking on the appearance and a twisted verion of the observer's personality with an objective of destruction and chaos).

The contingency of the Kalimos sequence that the man in the wall is able to follow Albernec is put into place to awaken Loid, his lover and research assistant whose personality was duplicated in the creation fo the Nechraloid by the same name.

The current objective is to find a way back to 1999 to meet with Albernec and assist in his fight against the void and the infestation. Activities in the archemdia serve 2-fold functions: fend off assults from the void attempting to breach our world, and search for clues to find the path Albernec left for us to find our way to him.

The machines with the Nechra- prefix are corpses entombed in metal and rigged up so that transference can be used to control them. They predate the warframes as construction and maintenance equipment which can be used as weapons, some being retrofit with actual weapons during the old war, while others were given weapons as security systems for places of interest to the Orokin and their subserviants.

[undone lodge]

Necra* and them having corpses is just a theory because of the skull in Voidrig and Bonewidow we don’t actually know that

[chilly merlin]

ok, and the call?

[plush swan]

Post-New-War:

• Veilbreaker: Kahl escapes Narmer, and fights Narmer. Unlocks Archon Hunts
• Archon Hunt: Kahl's folks and the Lotus try to rescue Erra from Narmer
• Jade Shadows: Stalker lore
• The Duviri Paradox: Where did Drifter come from?
• Angels of the Zariman: The Zariman returned during TNW, now you get to go there and hang out
• Whispers in the Walls: After TNW, Loid unlocks the Necralisk's basement, and you fight the Murmur in Mother's Basement. You also have your first encounter with Arthur.
• The Lotus Eaters: The Lotus moves to the Necralisk's basement, and decides that Drifter (as opposed to Operator) will be going to 1999. For some reason, she's receiving a phone call from 1999, so you steal Arthur's pager and start receiving messages on it.

Koumei is technically not post-TNW, it's just its own thing

[chilly merlin]

lotus eater is where im confused...

[real niche]

Wait until 1999

[plush swan]

Somehow, the Lotus started receiving a phone call from 1999, so she's singing to drown it out.

Drifter already tried to go back and figure out what was going on, but all you got was Arthur's pager (which somehow still has service), so we're going to have to try again in December

[obtuse gyro]

Albernec

[nova harness]

After Whispers before Jade Shadows

[chilly merlin]

so... its a teaser quest. good to know

i actually did lotus eater last.

[plush swan]

Yeah, it's a prologue quest like Apostasy Prologue

[chilly merlin]

i did whispers, jade then lotus.

[nova harness]

Release order type thing?

[plush swan]

Whispers definitely goes before Lotus

[nova harness]

It does

[obtuse gyro]

The machines with the Nechra- prefix are corpses entombed in metal and rigged up so that transference can be used to control them
They definitely couldnt have predated the warframes and also be fitted with transference, since transference as a technology was only invented when the tenno returned, after the first generation of warframes were built and discarded

[plush swan]

Yeah, IIRC they said at some point in Heart of Deimos that being able to use Transference on Necramechs was something they had to improvise during that quest.

But I might be misremembering

[obtuse gyro]

yea they cross-routed your input stream into the necramech

[plush swan]

Father describes Necramechs as being the "first wave" and Tenno/Warframes as the "second"

Notably: Necramechs were kinda dumb, so the Sentients could just outsmart them or smth.

[nova harness]

“Look, you were the second wave, kid. The Necramechs were Void-shielded, Sentient-pulse immune... as bright as a bag of hammers and just as dependable. Not like you.”

Actually when Father said this was he calling us untrustworthy?

[plush swan]

In context, it might have something to do with our warframes breaking down during that quest, due to the Heart thing

Also maybe foreshadowing Orphix

[obtuse gyro]

no, he was saying we're more dependable than autonomous necramechs

[undone lodge]

I might just be making it up b but I think I remember there being a similar saying about bags of hammers being bad?

Don’t remember why though

[obtuse gyro]

a bag of hammers is not sharp and if youre not sharp youre not bright

[chilly merlin]

this is leaving me more confused

[real niche]

Necramechs were stupid as hell

[obtuse gyro]

basically saying the necramechs are as bright as a bag of hammers and as dependable means: they dumb as hell and unreliable

[chilly merlin]

i wouldnt call a bag of hammers unreliable. but i also wouldnt call them reliable either

[lavish eagle]

I would say they have they uses

[real niche]

That's why the phrase is a comparative one.

[wispy jasper]

Would probably take a minute and watch a cinematic recap of whispers at least to have a more coherent idea of the kind of void shenanigans going on. You'll probably still have questions, but at least the basic flow might start to make more sense.

[plush swan]

Albrecht is missing, and you're looking for him.

In Whispers, you find out that he's probably in 1999

[opal minnow]

I tried... I'm on a lunch break at work and just wanted to use my memories as best I could...

[zenith jacinth]

Albernec?

[opal minnow]

Yeah, I guess that we can use transference on things without the bolt, like the voidmaws. Idk, it's a bit of a grey area since the nechra machines do predate the warframes, since father does refer to them as "older, about as graceful as a hammer, but just as reliable." It's probably the corpse driver itself that allows us to take control?

[opal minnow]

I pay attention to the audio, not the spelling. ;-;

[zenith jacinth]

How does albrecht sound like... that

[opal minnow]

That's how I heard it.

[zenith jacinth]

Barnacle

Actually that's funny, I can forgive that

[opal minnow]

I never picked up on the t at the end and I don't have a lot of time for reading up on things, I'm just going off what I remember fromy gameplay.

[nova harness]

I want me some Albernec now

[opal minnow]

Please stop bullying me. ;-;

[nova harness]

I’m not bullying you

I want me some Albernec now

[undone lodge]

No the Necramechs have the bolt I think, it’s just that they didn’t originally while they were being developed and in service

[zenith jacinth]

Snake was an old mech, so it probably didn't have any transference-assisting stuff installed

[opal minnow]

The voidmaws don't have transferrance bolts(to my knowledge), yet we can still controll them. I think the transferance both acts as an interface for the technopaty aspect of transferrance to work on biological entitites?

[obtuse gyro]

Dont think they have the bolts either, its not a necessity for control anyhow

[zenith jacinth]

Bolts make using transference easier, they are not needed

[nova harness]

Think Tenno can use transference on anything?

[zenith jacinth]

I don't think the silver grove is covered in transference bolts

[obtuse gyro]

Well silvana used transference on a forest so

[zenith jacinth]

Anything alive, yes

[opal minnow]

Maybe. I think it's easier to use on technology though because the circuitry is a lot more clearly purpose-defined than biology... it would explain why you need to daze organic entities to transfer into them while being able to interface directly with machines since they don't immediately fight back.

[undone lodge]

Yes but when we pilot Snake the impulse streams to our Warframe’s, which specifically use Transference, are cross-routed to it

[nova harness]

I wanna use Transference on Wally

[undone lodge]

If it didn’t have the compatible tech, how would that work?

[opal minnow]

It would also explain the bolt being fitted to the spine, intercepting the brain's signals to be overridden by the transferrance operator.

[wispy jasper]

I feel like we actually just have to start describing lore in cavemen terms for people to fill in the details for themselves later (or more likely just lump it and move on) at this point.

-Big man lets us see into the past
-Lotus lets us travel 90s internet adventure cartoon style through her phone.

They'll have to be satisfied with that or do the reading themselves after that.

[zenith jacinth]

Umbra is the only example of something fighting back against transference, and he has personal reasons for that

[nova harness]

Since everyone keeps saying we should go to Tau how long do you think it would take till Origin System would be affected by this happening?

[opal minnow]

Aren't all the warframes made in similar process though? A human/dax subject being exposed to infestation and the strength of their will overriding the collective will of the infestation on their body?

Umbra may be the only one fighting back because he's the only one that sees us as directly as an enemy and has a strong enough will to outright overpower the transferrance bolt.

[undone lodge]

There’s nothing about will

[wispy jasper]

Will of the infestation isn't really in play there

Infestation is purely for body shaping purposes

[undone lodge]

The Helminth strain is a specifically curated strain that isn’t part of the larger Infestation

[opal minnow]

(Small off-topic: I am working on designing a biopunk fps with mechanical inspiration from Warframe, Cyberpunk, and others with thematic inspiration from Scorn.)

[opal minnow]

I missed that detail I guess.

[supple dagger]

Dw, there’s so much and a lot of ambiguous items up to interpretation, it’s inevitable you’ll miss or forget something

[nova harness]

Infestation vs Grineer and Corpus when?

[opal minnow]

Yeeeeah.

[opal minnow]

Always?

[zenith jacinth]

Umbra has a memory fueling a burning desire for revenge, and having an operator controlling him could be an obstacle for that

[opal minnow]

Exactly. He sees the operator as an obstruction with a very strong will against taking orders.

[wispy jasper]

I assume anyone going to Tau is just going to have to get involved in the sentient politics going on there. To our current knowledge of what's going on would only feedback into the Origin System as much as it encourages sentients to do something or the other.

[obtuse gyro]

Geforce experience

Youre not using transference on snake, your inputs via transference are being translated into inputs for snake

[undone lodge]

Yes

[obtuse gyro]

What should have been going into your frame is converted into inputs for snake

[zenith jacinth]

Snake should have slight input delay for added realism

[undone lodge]

But why would they just have that on tap? Having whatever is needed to translate Transference inputs into the old Necramech control method’s inputs is such a specific and odd thing

[zenith jacinth]

Father has been tinkering on snake for a while

[obtuse gyro]

because one side of the family is necramech experts and the other half infested (including helminth) experts who all happen to know whats what with us

note that the phrase "transference stream" exists (cursed by op lines)

so using "warframe impulse stream" instead is quite major

and beyond that, theres no need for a transference bolt to engage anything of that like on a necramech

[nova harness]

2 members are Void experts

[obtuse gyro]

is grandma part of that count?

[nova harness]

Nah does Grandmother do anything other than tell story’s and try to destroy hearts to bring family together

[obtuse gyro]

well, she balling

[nova harness]

I would say I wanna see her before Orokin life as she probably got it due to the marriage but she probably wasn’t anything too special

[undone lodge]

That’s not really a reason for them to just have that at the ready? They weren’t specifically looking for a Tenno to answer if Mother’s initial reaction is any indication, and Father’s dialogue doesn’t exactly suggest that what he’s doing is pre-prepared

[obtuse gyro]

have what at the ready? The family is equipped with the very skills to reroute impulse streams like that when desperation hits

What's happening is that a family filled with people with a relevant set of skills find themselves in a situation where they need to jury rig control settings from one platform to another

[undone lodge]

One man. Not the family. At no point is there any indication that the rest of the family helped with the jury rigging. The opposite even, each of them have their own roles in the plan, of which only Father does anything with the necramech

[obtuse gyro]

The one man who has designed a metric ton of necramechs, thus having the relevant skills to jury rig controls into his personal necramech

[undone lodge]

Yes and I’m not disagreeing with that

[obtuse gyro]

then I mean regardless there is still no need for a transference bolt to be equipped

[simple python]

What if the mechs were like Evangelion.

Tbh that's what already is happening with Operators, Warframes, and Mechs but like...

[wispy jasper]

You mean heavy-handed metaphor for social dysfunction and struggles with mental illness? We have some of that.

[simple python]

Yeah

In other news. I'm still undecided between Amir and Quincy. Tempted to get Quincy's Gemini and Cyte 09. Especially if I do choose to romance him for 1999...

Plus with Cyte's alternate helmet looking like Quincy's hairstyle already... it's kinda heavy-handed there.

[tiny ibex]

Amir seems like a funny guy, Quincy seems very arrogant

maybe Quicy will accidentally fall in my crosshairs if he keeps it up

[wispy jasper]

Quincy seems to be relatively unpopular so you’d have fewer fandom rivals weighing on your style

[tiny ibex]

to be fair, so is Loid at start, maybe he will come around

[nova harness]

Cocky. Often places bets on his own shots. Hand and trigger-finger often observed flexing involuntarily.
// REPUTATION:
Arrogance. Sense of superiority is tolerated due to his (impressive) skills and sense of duty. Would be a leader with more self-awareness.

[wispy jasper]

He’s gonna have the Byronic aura for sure. Apparently the warframe userbase wouldn’t do well with k-drama.

[nova harness]

Because Whispers showed Arthur and was mostly based on him when mentioning other characters think DE was only planning to have Arthur and Aoi originally?

[wispy jasper]

I’d guess the starter trio was in the plans early. Probably had Arthur on the ground for proof of concept and Aoi for some coms work on the first teaser.

[nova harness]

I thought she was gonna be dead when we played lol

[wispy jasper]

That did seem to be the suggestion. Obviously some weird time stuff going on so not off the cards

[tight pagoda]

When we see them in Whispers, it’s the very end of the line, they’re all dead or dying.

[wanton gorge]

Hey what should I do with neewa?

[autumn turret]

up to you

i believe you get a different display at the end depending on it

[simple python]

The thing is, I want to believe that Quincy will soften

(When we romance him)

Also about that witw teaser for 1999 at the end of the quest. That'll probably be a void doom timeline thing. Probably by the proxy of... drifter being there, the whole events are now messed up and different.

(Then it'll start feeling like limbo until they put the next stage into action.)

[night grail]

That was not the end of the quest

That was like the middle

[simple python]

It felt like the end to me.

[night grail]

Iirc we hadn't even seen the cavia by that time

[simple python]

The who?

[night grail]

No Jahu gargoyle. No netracell tutorial or mirror defense

[simple python]

I'm kidding. I know the cavia.

Crazy all that stuff happened in one quest. Still thought it felt like that'd be the end of a shorter quest tbh.

[night grail]

Whispers felt so short

[simple python]

Anyway. Void doom timelines. Drifter being a paradox, gatecrashing parallel timelines.

By the proxy of the drifter not being there, the Hex fail.

By the proxy of them being there, the Hex survive. At least that's what it sounded like to me.

[clear vessel]

cannot lie, seeing people call Quincy rude feels wrong bc like. he's just the average english guy. like he's just a cheeky bloke. he's more teasy than rude, at least when he steals the big Scaldra kill from Arthur in the trailer mission. and also how he calls Arthur "Hero boy"

who knows maybe he's trying to flirt

[obtuse gyro]

his own dossier suggests that he can be quite abrassive tho

[thick jolt]

The comic also has him straigth up saying to abandon a wounded arthur

[balmy storm]

yeah no Quincy is just rude

like I get why he'd want to leave Arthur, he's focused on the mission at hand

but it seems like he's focused on his personal goals above his connections to others

which y'know, Drifter may be able to change that
But Quincy doesn't seem like just a cheeky bloke, he's focused and doesn't care who gets hurt if they get what needs to be done done.

[thick jolt]

Personally i feel one of the hex might die in the quest
Possibly quincy just to get the main bp for cyte09

Possibly a choice made during the quest

Either way i just think that for a procedural tileset we have too many npcs in the syndicate

[balmy storm]

Crazy thing is there seems to be someone we haven’t met yet lol

All the hex are here, Eleanor’s icon could be either of these two but the other one belongs to someone else, doubt its Albrecht, could be Russalka but. Why.

This is from the 1999 page btw

First image looks like possibly an infested symbol of some sort so could maybe be related to liches..? (Mostly going off colors and how squiggly it is)
The second one looks like a trophy??? Maybe relating to victory which kinda makes me think maybe Russalka?
Whoever this 7th lerson is it’s someone we get to talk to and potentially also romance/befriend

[jovial bison]

Hope this helps (:

So then one of the two new ones has to be Eleanor I would assume

[jovial bison]

I do think you're right, Eleanor and Rusalka make the most sense! Unless there's another protoframe we haven't seen? Loki? Lol

[warm anvil]

yareli obviously

[obtuse gyro]

I mean the issue here is why are we texting rusalka

[night grail]

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer

[jovial bison]

We don't know what happens in the story quest, she might turn out to be more similar than we think to the Hex

[obtuse gyro]

I mean, she's literally the commander of our enemy forces

I would be very amused to see her abandon her loyalties for us and the Hex instead

[jovial bison]

Allegiance could always change

[obtuse gyro]

but for what reason?

[jovial bison]

Like I said, I believe she will realize how similar she is to the Hex

I've also said before that I believe Entrati is either working with or created the Scaldra

So, I think she will see that she needs to fight on our side and that she was wrong

[obtuse gyro]

I believe she will realize how similar she is to the Hex
Realise what? She's very clearly not a protoframe as she is presented to us currently

[jovial bison]

There's also leaks that suggest, things lol so I'll hold my breath until it happens 😅

[obtuse gyro]

the leaks with dubious credibility?

[jovial bison]

I mean we can get into how accurate game files are, but like I said, we shall see what happens

[obtuse gyro]

the leaks youre thinking off are already conflicting with the file name in a certain area, so like forgive me if I am highly dubious of its credibility

[jovial bison]

I would hope the leaks are wrong, and we actually get an entirely different design for that frame tbh, but they've been generally accurate on a lot of things in the past

[obtuse gyro]

anyhow barring leaks aside, rusalka does not look like a protoframe at all

no infested tissue, one prosthetic arm, taller than saryn's model

[jovial bison]

I totally agree, in her current state she doesn't, and she doesn't resemble Saryn much either

I'm wondering if internally Effervon being corrosive is just labeled as Saryn for her but who knows

They've always had wacky names

[obtuse gyro]

my personal experience with leaks in the broad scope of gaming is that theyre closer to an AoE weapon

they can always hit the general direction, but are peepee poor in actually getting things exact

[jovial bison]

I mean of course, nothing is concrete until it's actually in the game

They could always change direction, always subject to change

[obtuse gyro]

which means finer details that change a whole lot are lost because leakers never know what theyre actually looking at

looking at you destiny leakers

[jovial bison]

But still, regardless of leaks, I think we might somehow talk to Rusalka

She already has some sort of connection with Entrati and the Hex

She might view us as a third party and want to contact us separately

I mean clearly Arthur isn't immediately trustworthy of us from the get go

So there might be some interplay of where we sit in this new world, and we might be able to spy on the Scaldra in some capacity

[obtuse gyro]

to be fair, at least one of the Hex are spying on the scaldra already based on the ARG

[jovial bison]

Right, so maybe we might have to collect data for them in a new mission type or something? I know they spoke about a couple mission types they're working on

Endless capture being one and then from what I've heard it seems like some sort of vault grab? Data collection?

[obtuse gyro]

hmm, perhaps we'll see more with the devstream

[jovial bison]

Not sure, seemed very WiP from what I saw lol called escalation or something

[obtuse gyro]

e

ESCALATION PROTOCOL??

[night grail]

Endless spy

[jovial bison]

I don't think it's like D2 lol but it might be like a mobile defense with extra steps? If I had to guess

[obtuse gyro]

twas a joke

[balmy storm]

I hope they do this now

How to make loki relevant, totally went backfire

[night grail]

Wukong meta

[wispy jasper]

Escalation is probably just the endless capture mode isn’t it? They mentioned the target gets stronger with each success so it wouldn’t be unfitting.

[scarlet basalt]

Esclaation really feels like it’s either atomicycle meta or praedis meta

[gritty flume]

dem messaging app profile pictures be like:

lettie: a mouse
amir: something of nerd stuff
aoi: probably a fan girl of on lyne, and love fan girling to them or so
quincy: he abhors albrecht entrati so much

[scarlet basalt]

The infinite capture mission sounds really interesting ngl
That’s a way to fight the nuking meta

[flat magnet]

Depending on the interval between each capture target, wouldn’t this make it the fastest prime farming if they made fissures available on them?

[scarlet basalt]

Surely, they need to make more things dependent on skills and not some weird thing like survival which is only a waiting simulator.
Void cascade is a good thing that happened ngl and maybe they saw potential on exploring the speedrun aspect of the game

[scarlet basalt]

Am i crazy to like his bald version
Like sure with haired it’s better but bald is nice too

[zenith jacinth]

He looks 30 years younger

[tiny ibex]

I feel like I'd expect "oi mate" from him rather than how he speaks now

[covert tree]

He looks like a road man

[lavish eagle]

Bro look like he bout to say bravo 6 goin dark

[soft pumice]

Now this is Bald

[warm anvil]

did u just glitch him out of the map or something for this

[scarlet basalt]

i took it from twitter

[soft pumice]

I took mine directly from tennocon

[warm anvil]

yeah the workshop panel

[warm anvil]

ah ok ty

[naive stirrup]

Hello, I just beat TNW. I noticed that there was a way to change lotus look but is there a way to change ordis look or no? Much thanks (mainly asking cuz I send clips to my friends and I don't wanna show spoilers)

[nova harness]

You can use the spoiler mode thing

[naive stirrup]

Where is it at?

[nova harness]

Options

[naive stirrup]

Ooh wait streamer mode?

[nova harness]

Yeah

[naive stirrup]

Ooh that makes sense, ty

[tight pagoda]

Amir’s is of one of the arcade games

[upbeat kiln]

Has anyone noticed how Entrati Obols seem to have two different appearances? I first noticed it with Trumna Prime and the Necra Prime outfit, but also on Ruvox, the Grimoire, Qorvex, and Xaku Prime, their Obols have a line going through the middle

However, the Necralisk, Albrecht, the Necramechs, Ekhein, Onos, and the Sanctum Anatomica don't have lines

Has anyone else noticed this?

[rare barn]

has anyone seen a game called "strg.snk"?

because i'm pretty sure it's the same game seen in the control panel hacking in the 1999 trailer

[atomic halo]

Excalibald 😂

[chilly merlin]

can anyone explain how deimos infested got to earth? sayas vision?

[thick jolt]

its a vision of a possible future

so no we cannot cause it hasnt even happened and might not happen

but if anything its the same as plague star

[compact haven]

That's what my thought was, just, it landed in the water instead of on the mainland.

[chilly merlin]

But the deimos infected is a totally different stran of the infested.

[nova harness]

Plague Star Deimos edition

2 Strains doing the same thing isn’t an impossibility

[chilly merlin]

Isn't the deimos stran created by someone?

Loid and his master (forgot the name)

[nova harness]

They used it nothing said they actually created it

Eagerly I brought the samples back to Deimos and began to cultivate them

Cultivate doesn’t say create

It means to refine

Infestation existed before the Orokin

[balmy storm]

??? How did you forget Entrati

But yeah the infestation predates the Orokin, though they did cultivate, alter and to some extent domesticate the infestation

[balmy storm]

Isn’t that specifically about the techrot?

[balmy storm]

That makes me think the line implies a connection to Albrecht specifically and the labs
Since the Grimoire, Qorvex and Ruvox have it

[nova harness]

Technocyte which is seemingly a bit different

[balmy storm]

That’s still the 1999 strain, right?

Techrot seems to just be the 1999 name btw, not the strain name
Though it can be called that too I’m sure
But there’s also the Coda strain so. 🤷‍♀️

[nova harness]

DE had to make it more confusing

[balmy storm]

Lol

[amber terrace]

Say, was there any notice of 1999 era Drifter/Operator glasses coming with 1999?

[balmy storm]

There’s two tennogen “glasses”
Entrati Eyepatch and Butterfly glasses iirc

Tennogen 1999

[rain otter]

These are related.

[balmy storm]

I need the left one

It’s perfect for my Void War outfit

[rain otter]

She has a nose piercing

[balmy storm]

Ye

[amber terrace]

Those two Tenno outfits are exactly why I want new glasses /lh /not hostile

[ripe crypt]

all male drifters look so middle aged

[fading current]

Just depends on your face options lol
I’ve seen some pretty good looking drifters NGL
Including mine…I’m proud of him

[rain otter]

Skill Issue

I actually think the Beard helps de-age the Drifter.

[ripe crypt]

wrong

[rain otter]

This helps

You're wrong.

[ripe crypt]

my drifter looks like a middle aged homeless guy

meanwhile my operator looks like he went through a phase

they lived very differently as you can see

im very close to turning the operator into a woman because at least I wont look that homeless

[fading current]

He still looks rather good tbh

[tight pagoda]

Played Alan Wake 2 and not even 5 minutes in

[balmy storm]

He really do be following you

[covert tree]

https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-leave-me-alone-meme-gif-6420351794930725971

[warm anvil]

i wish they just had more "normal" cosmetics

[tight pagoda]

We probably won’t, but I’d like to see some 1999 citizens

[balmy storm]

The earings, headphones and glasses are arguably “normal”, the visor too to an extent though its def more warframey

[tight pagoda]

I think the issue with some of these cosmetics is that they’re not exactly what someone would wear IRL back in 1999, but they fit in Warframe’s 1999. Seeing people wearing similar clothing to what we’re being given would definitely make some of these wackier cosmetics feel less out of place

[nova harness]

Sorry I turned on the music

[warm anvil]

i just want normal glasses 😭

[balmy storm]

I can reasonably see people in 1999 wearing headphones, silly glasses (during new years), silly earings…
maybe not that visor specifically
and def not the entrati eye

A big theme is y2k and new years so the butterfly glasses make sense

[signal ermine]

Warframe lore 101^

[nova harness]

26. What was the ultimate fate of Albrecht Entrati?

That's the question, isn't it, kiddo?

[winter igloo]

Tf was Cy doing during new war before showing back up at the end, was he hiding out somewhere?

[tight pagoda]

I'm pretty sure he's restricted to the Railjack.

As badass as he is he knows he probably can't 1v500000 all the murexes so he's waiting

[soft pumice]

Drifter or operator fashion

[night grail]

Drifter really sells the look

And i usually don't really like drifter fashion

[balmy storm]

Prepping for 1999

[undone lodge]

with clothes like that you’d think you’re going for Rusalka and not Eleanor

[flat magnet]

The goth one has nose ring a chain if that counts?

[amber terrace]

I’m waiting for 1999 to drop so I can get the streetwear and not look too entirely out of place

[scarlet basalt]

murmur fashion

[plush swan]

What if: Orphix Omnia fissures?

[balmy storm]

[naive stirrup]

Just curious, is it confirmed that Cyte has a Gemini/human name (idk what the proper term for it is called) or no?

[tight pagoda]

Quincy Isaacs

https://www.warframe.com/1999/protoframes

[naive stirrup]

I see, alright ty

[scarlet basalt]

Must be crazy for the drifter and romance system
They will be liike the solo poly hijabi amputee woman

Wait i am onto something

[lone inlet]

Stalker????

[amber terrace]

I personally call him Gabriel because I am the funniest person on the planet and can totally be trusted around small animals

[zenith jacinth]

What? Surprised that he's playable?

[lone inlet]

Yes

[zenith jacinth]

Have you played through duviri paradox

[tight pagoda]

At rank 10 Opportunity, you unlock him and he can sometimes show up in rotation.

[lone inlet]

Bro has a kid

[lone inlet]

Yep even for kullvero

[scarlet basalt]

For a little surprise you should continue leveling up your intrinsic in duviri

[lone inlet]

I mean all them level 8

[scarlet basalt]

i forgor 💀

[lone inlet]

Hey do u have a spare voltic strike

[zenith jacinth]

Max 'em out

[scarlet basalt]

it's 4 am man

i need to wake up in 3 hour

[zenith jacinth]

What's that mod again

[lone inlet]

Melee mod

[scarlet basalt]

60/60 elec

[lone inlet]

It’s the 60/60 mod

[zenith jacinth]

Is it baro only like the rest of the elec 60/60s?

I never remember baro's stock aside from fashion stuff

[lone inlet]

Hope not

[zenith jacinth]

You can check mod drop sources in the codex

I can't as I'm not currently in-game