Cat have you played the Sacrifice yet?
#spoiler-chat
nova harness
zenith jacinth
Even waverider?
merry night
yes even waverider
nova harness
Waverider is a sin
zenith jacinth
Nice, you saved the vent kids
merry night
but who is going to save us
zenith jacinth
Waverider is a sin
It's actually pretty fun. And easy.
nova harness
I hate K-Drives
merry night
"fun"
nova harness
It should’ve been a K-Drive optional tutorial not a quest
real niche
When the K-Drive focused frame involves K-Drive
nova harness
It’s the definition of fan service quest
merry night
the k-driven challenge is pain
atomic lynx
The rail behind fortuna is a lifesaver
balmy storm
Necramech frame when
merry night
the true master one is faster then k-driven
balmy storm
We have the k-drive frame
archwing frame
frame frame
where is the mech frame DE 
nova harness
What frame is a frame frame?
nova harness
I swear Necramechs themselves are frame mechs
They have everything a Warframe has just without the parkour
prime lantern
Ballas implied they killed all of them eventually
It's amazing that the frame without an invis managed to survive the orokins purge
And kullevero watched his brothers and sisters get slaughtered
nova harness
What about immortal frames
obtuse gyro
Ballas implied they killed all of them eventually
clearly all but one lol, classic ballas to leave that factoid out
prime lantern
Well I mean kullevero was eventually "killed"
nova harness
Did Duviri extend his life warranty
Because without sleep or Tenno he should be dead
Unless like Rell it somehow made him immortal
merry night
it's the void again
nova harness
Void Magic is fun
prime lantern
Frames don't age
nova harness
That how Rell didn’t die right
nova harness
If the frame doesn’t age does that mean my Drifter isn’t because he’s in his Warframe
merry night
the drifter won't age anymore after the new war, we think
nova harness
Is that why Operator is still 13 after all these years
nova harness
Operator cheating death one Void incident at a time
merry night
hope he don't need it back
nova harness
You’d think he’d grow a new one
zenith jacinth
Is that why Operator is still 13 after all these years
No, that's because they were in a cryopod
merry night
he don't have it in the new war
zenith jacinth
the drifter won't age anymore after the new war, we think
In lore they'll probably age faster due to sometimes being out of the reality-bending void, but in gameplay not at all
nova harness
I wonder if Wally even knows about Drifter
merry night
pretty sure he do
merry night
but eternalism
zenith jacinth
He's in charge of aligning drufter and op, he definitely knows about them
Drufter
merry night
driftuh
nova harness
Wdym aligning?
zenith jacinth
Tnw handshake
nova harness
I thought that was after the Eternalism
We see Drifter in the ship but he wasn’t actually there he was on earth being strangled
zenith jacinth
Void stuff
nova harness
Did the void just make him omnipresent
merry night
nah it's just eternalism
nova harness
So he was at both at once
zenith jacinth
Did the void just make him omnipresent
The handshake happens in the void
nova harness
I miss when it was as simple as kill one person
The Void steals my braincells sometimes
merry night
you have braincells, you don't have braincells
zenith jacinth
I have no brain cells, for I am a cephalon
nova harness
Does Eternalism affect Wally
zenith jacinth
No
merry night
don't know
nova harness
I wonder if both answers are correct
merry night
the answers are correct, the answers are not correct
nova harness
It still makes more sense than Entrati saying we need to master the void
Or Drifter mastering the schools which he doesn’t know exists
Or if Lotus accepts Drifter as a Tenno or not
zenith jacinth
I wonder if both answers are correct
They aren't, wally definitely just ignores eternalism. Probably laughs at it too while he just removes universes
nova harness
Do you have answers as a cephalon for the others?
zenith jacinth
What
nova harness
Does Lotus see Drifter as another Tenno kid of hers
zenith jacinth
Probably
nova harness
Or how Drifter masters a school he never knew existed
zenith jacinth
Gameplay weird
nova harness
Could it be shared memories after handshake
zenith jacinth
That could be possible, yes
orchid remnant
don't people play dice with finger bones
nova harness
New War made a bunch of questions
zenith jacinth
New cephalon (me) tries to find the answers
nova harness
Are you an angry cephalon like Simaris
zenith jacinth
Sometimes
nova harness
Simaris needs anger management
prime lantern
Did the void just make him omnipresent
Possibly
zenith jacinth
Simaris isn't really angry, just impatient
prime lantern
I mean if unum can see every iteration of time then wally probably can to
nova harness
I heard Unum was a Tenno once
prime lantern
You heard a head canon
zenith jacinth
A head cannon
prime lantern
Unums origins are entirely unknown
zenith jacinth
She is. That's what matters.
prime lantern
She is definitely something
zenith jacinth
And no, we haven't
nova harness
We saw a crystal
prime lantern
What that something is ¯_(ツ)_/¯
nova harness
But I doubted that was the real Unum
zenith jacinth
¯_(ツ)_/¯
prime lantern
An opposite to wally?
A tenno who pulled a rell?
Simply orokin technology?
nova harness
I wonder if the Orokin would know
Since we don’t know if she just occupied the tower or was built into it
Where’s Ballas when you need him
Just thought there was 2 wars why didn’t the Sentients even harm the tower the first time because it was fine
prime lantern
Probably didn't need to
I doubt orokin would huddle up near poor people
Or unum straight up went "nuh uh honey you get your gold plated self on out of here"
nova harness
But there was an entire thing with a Sentient invading the tower
Which you can see today in the Gara lake
prime lantern
Yea in the second war
Because they wanted control over the system instead of revenge on the orokin
prime lantern
Oh you mean the mother edilion?
I got mixed up and stuff
Uhhh edilion attacked the tower for its kuva
When it Tried to assault her it made the energy barricade from its will
nova harness
Did Gara stop the eidelon?
prime lantern
With the aid of unum yes
nova harness
Is that probably why the tower is unharmed
Until a giant ship goes above the barrier and knocks the Unum out
prime lantern
The tower can rebuild itself
The tower is made of infested (idk the strain) flesh and can rebuild itself from dam near anything
prime lantern
Because de wants it to be that way
nova harness
I heard Gara died defeating an eidelon
prime lantern
She did
zenith jacinth
"While" would be more accurate
She kamikaze'd herself into the plains sentient with a void bomb
near rune
It's never described as a Void bomb, just a "glittering, man-sized device" that was crafted by the Unum.
wicked iron
It was a cascade bomb, but I don't think it specified that it was Void.
prime lantern
I think the best guess is void
I imagine a sentient of that caliber would essentially immune to traditional weaponry
nova harness
I don’t get it Sentients use the void to go faster but we use Void to destroy them faster
real niche
The ones that did use Void got scarred
merry night
they are weak to the void
real niche
Because they needed to move fast
prime lantern
Because the long walk to tau took a long time
prime lantern
The murexs were used to shield themselves from the void
It worked better than just going through but it wasn't 100%
nova harness
Is veil still in void
prime lantern
Veil proxima?
nova harness
Yeah
prime lantern
Idk
Maybe its like a place in real space where the barrier between void space and real space is thinner
nova harness
Isn’t the void in everything?
real niche
No
prime lantern
No
nova harness
Then how did the moon get dropped where it did?
The void was miles away from earth map wise
real niche
It's not in everything but it can be wherever it wants.
nova harness
Could Wally get to tau
And extend the void
Dropping the moon from the void which is miles away makes no sense
obtuse gyro
the void isnt just some physical location like a planet
consider this, the void was the medium in which the zariman was supposed to reach tau, what does that tell you about the void
nova harness
That the Zariman went into the known nodes of the void
obtuse gyro
it tells you that the void was meant to be used to bridge the gap between Origin and Tau, what does this mean?
prime lantern
Essentially
atomic lynx
Doesn’t it contain anything that never happened?
obtuse gyro
is the universe endless
nova harness
Not clear
obtuse gyro
Doesn’t it contain anything that never happened?
not necessarily
prime lantern
Well the void isn't inside linear space
obtuse gyro
there are things in there that clearly have happened like Duviri and the orokin towers
prime lantern
Doesn’t it contain anything that never happened?
Its the bridge between every choice made
atomic lynx
Or is it the possibility of anything that could ever happen
nova harness
Did anything create the void or was it always there
prime lantern
Did anything create the void or was it always there
Unknown
nova harness
Why is the Zariman above the void not inside it
prime lantern
It's inside and outside
nova harness
DE destroy logic
If they say it appeared in the void you’d think they’d put it inside
prime lantern
Well the void literally where logic and reason go to die
obtuse gyro
Why is the Zariman above the void not inside it
I think youre taking the star chart visuals too literally
as evidenced when you believed lua made its way from the area of the star chart where the void nodes are to where lua is now
obtuse gyro
Well we flew into the void and dropped a moon next to earth
like I said, taking the visuals too literally, the void isnt some area to the left of the system
nova harness
What is it then
obtuse gyro
if youre familiar with the warp from 40k
or perhaps hyperspace from star wars
these arent spaces in real space
obtuse gyro
getting warmer
prime lantern
The void is it's own dimensional space
obtuse gyro
that is the void you see when you jump in a railjack
nova harness
I even saw a Dragon
obtuse gyro
thats why I brought up the zariman and tau
nova harness
So is the void endless
obtuse gyro
is the universe endless?
nova harness
That’s unknown
obtuse gyro
thats your answer
nova harness
I mean Warframe one isn’t endless
prime lantern
According to whom
nova harness
Star chart logic
obtuse gyro
thats not really a good argument for it lol
nova harness
It will fill up eventually
prime lantern
The star chart is not the entire universe
obtuse gyro
we know that there are clearly things that exist beyond the star chart lmao
prime lantern
It's just sol
nova harness
Yeah that’s why I said Star chart not Tau system
obtuse gyro
but why did you equate the universe of warframe with just the starchart?
prime lantern
The question was is the universe endless
nova harness
At this point Tau could be in a different universe
obtuse gyro
tau is very much in the same universe
nova harness
That hasn’t been confirmed or confirmed or denied
obtuse gyro
that has been very very confirmed when the sentients took the long way there
nova harness
DE don’t want us there anytime ever
prime lantern
And wally could be a magical space horse with an obsession with game shows
obtuse gyro
the sentients flew over to tau, which is implied to be the Tau Ceti system with the Ceti Lacera and the Zariman ARG pointing us at Tau Ceti
prime lantern
Because it hasn't been confirmed or denied
Using "it hasn't been denied" as a basis for an argument doesn't work
obtuse gyro
And wally could be a magical space horse with an obsession with game shows
dont forget to feed Star Horse its sugar cubes
nova harness
Wally the second most mysterious character in the game lol
I hope Tennocon gives us more Wally
prime lantern
I want more unum
nova harness
Same
We got voice that’s about it
I want more Stalker
He’s more mysterious than the Wall of Bone
Stalker got a quest gave us a bow and is a almost forgotten character
Outside of occasional kills
Wally pops up in our ship and has been showing up more and more
zenith jacinth
It's void arc time now
fading current
sly glacier
And wally could be a magical space horse with an obsession with game shows
*agreeable snort*
potent ember
Definitely didn't make my Kaithe after Starhorse. Nope.
amber terrace
My brother just built his first amp so he could do Sacrifice, would a damage arcane be of use on a 111 amp for getting Umbra’s shields down?
amber terrace
Something just came up, my brother’s only rank 1 with the Quills, would an ungilded 111 be passable for Sacrifice?
wild wind
Yeah, gilding doesn't boost stats anymore
wild wind
I do too all the time 
amber terrace
So question, given that gilding doesn’t boost stats anymore, do fresh built amps come with the damage that would normally only exist on gilded amps?
wild wind
yup
You just don't gain mastery and can't use arcanes on them
1st arcane slot requires gilding, second requires an adapter
amber terrace
I’m only asking because while normally my brother is an amazing person to be around, he gets pretty grating to be around when he’s angry and I remember when I did Sacrifice back when ops only had 100 health and no shields and I didn’t have even a mote amp at the time, the Umbra fights were pretty infuriating
I’m just trying to make my brother as overleveled as possible within arbitrary time constraints(aka I don’t want to stall his progress on the main story more than I already have) so when he does do Sacrifice and the quests after, he’s not gonna have both of us ripping out our hair(I quite like having long hair and I don’t want to go bald lol)
wild wind
just run Vazarin or Unairu :V
amber terrace
I had him level up zenurik for energy economy 😔
amber terrace
Will he be fine with zenurik or did I accidentally kneecap him?
wild wind
It'll be a fight. The armor from Unairu and the Vazarin health/armor waybound are simply substantial buffs.
Oh if you want to help him though, you ought to be able to trade him a Magus Husk
amber terrace
Does magus husk apply to ops?
wild wind
Wait isn't that the one that boosts operator health?
wild wind
yeah those only apply to operator
wild wind
nope
amber terrace
I’m a tad confused, forgive me
amber terrace
Should I give him both? I have standing to get him a unranked versions of both. Or would those not be substantial enough?
wild wind
It's 100 extra health and 50 armor
wild wind
yeah
amber terrace
I ask because I already bankrupted him a few times in terms of credits
wild wind
amber terrace
Question: does Zenurik’s Temporal Drag ability affect Umbra?
amber terrace
I got nekros and I am confused about his abilities
This might be better for #gameplay-discussion or maybe #builds-discussion if you want to know how to build for certain abilities : )
My brother’s doing Apostasy
We are one step closer to Sacrifice, then Chimera, then Erra, then The Maker, and then after all of that, New War. Then AOTZ
How long does Sacrifice take?
clever scarab
around1 hour
amber terrace
My brother beat Sacrifice without a hitch! Thanks so much y’all!
And he also did Chimera Prologue and now I’m stalling to build and level the paracesis and after that it’s right back to the story!
sly glacier
This isn't really a spoiler but I wasn't sure where else to put it.
I had a dream that instead of playing as Veso during the corpus pov in the New War, we spawned in as a domestik drone.
nova harness
Can’t tell if that’s a bad dream or a good dream
zenith jacinth
Good if no warframes, bad if warframes
solemn tundra
Any cross-save news
nova harness
It’s coming is your news
solemn tundra
nova harness
Yeah that’s as far as DE goes with news until way closer to release
balmy badger
There will be cross-save news at TennoCon.
DE said so during the last devstream.
That's where they plan on going in-depth with release planning/scheduling for it.
lament sun
I got jebaited.
steady gate
how?
orchid remnant
it's the name
lament sun
lol
orchid remnant
jebatidd -> jebaited
forest nova
look at it upside down
little surge
now, i recently have been playing alot of duviri but have never seen something like this, the screen was playing sound but i couldnt quite understand it, but when i completed one of the nearby tablet question things (forgot what their called) it then stopped
any idea?
steady gate
Well, if you’ve done New War and Angels of the Zariman, ||that’s one of the screens from the Zariman, you are hearing a very muffled Cephalon Melica||
If not, from the big ship in the Duviri sky.
onyx shore
poor qig
supple dagger
now, i recently have been playing alot of duviri but have never seen something l...
Yea that’s happening to all of the Zariman screens scattered across Duviri. It was probably added when the new update came out
Another screen that does that is the one that’s at the very edge of Chamber of Muses
nova harness
I just wonder who the Qig thief was
jagged lake
Still new to the disc btw. What topics do I typically want to spoiler tag? Guessing most of the big reveals from second dream onward?
balmy storm
poor qig <:HappyHyekka:846757209638567976>
Fed to the Cyst?
Are the infested in Duviri? 
nova harness
Thought infested hate void
jagged lake
Maybe it's Dominus' personal Helminth?
supple dagger
The Duviri fragments mentioned an island called the Execution Cyst so maybe this Qig is related to that
nova harness
I really want to see more islands return
atomic lynx
I’d assume we might see a couple come And go.
near rune
Fed to the Cyst?
Are the infested in Duviri? <:ThinkingVor:727249872637526086>
It's most likely the Execution Cyst, a Lost Island mentioned by Duviri. The fact that Qig was a "thief" probably means he was executed for his crimes.
jagged lake
So why did the Drifter initially have trouble with transference during New War? Is it because mom wasn't holding his hand? 😆
balmy storm
It's most likely the Execution Cyst, a Lost Island mentioned by Duviri. The fact...
Ah 
steady gate
So why did the Drifter initially have trouble with transference during New War? ...
Yes
tepid basin
So why did the Drifter initially have trouble with transference during New War? ...
its because the drifter is a potential reality, a timeline, where they never left into the void and thus never got "infected" by it
nova harness
So why did the Drifter initially have trouble with transference during New War? ...
Because he had only just got Transference since he turned down the deal in his timeline and if you just get new void powers you need to get used to them the hand was sort of helping him understand Warframes
jagged lake
Can you use transference in undercroft if you haven't done The War Within?
graceful zodiac
I would say no
jagged lake
Also I can use my Operator there, which makes no friggin sense XD
wild wind
Yeah, Duviri's transferrence shenanigans are more like... training wheels?
nova harness
When has the void ever used logic and reason?
wild wind
when it was an alien hellscape inimical to human life
jagged lake
Oooh that's a new word
wild wind
I love rare words, they can be so descriptive
nova harness
I just thought why does the Orokin towers corrupt factions but not us
atomic lynx
Also I can use my Operator there, which makes no friggin sense XD
I think Duviri is kinda where our ‘other’ self is whenever our chosen character is playing in origin.
jagged lake
But I'm using op in Origin too >_>
nova harness
Well as I said when has the void ever used logic and reason
It literally made a Warframe just because
atomic lynx
Isn’t the whole thing only one can exist at any point, so while we’re in duviri he’s playing cards with Kahl, then when you go back he’s hanging out in Duviri I guess
nova harness
Yeah there can only be one Operator at a time
jagged lake
I'm sure this has already been asked a dozen times, but where was Umbra during act 2 of New War? Was he just laying low so Ballas wouldn't make an Archon out of him?
nova harness
Inside the Orbiter
jagged lake
That would explain why my shawzin wasn't where I remembered putting it
opal rapids
Ah yes, the mountain pass
When you cut the link too hard and Ordis yeets you into softlock until you force quit the game
jagged lake
Well you cut the link alright
opal rapids
Also TWW interacts funny with your operator if you main Drifter
jagged lake
fiery oyster
Also TWW interacts funny with your operator if you main Drifter
One time my Drifter was tall so the view was his chest lol
opal rapids
It did this with the Drifter outfit at the start of the quest I just didn't get a pic
Oh, that's because it thought that was my Drifter lol
At least the were wearing operator clothes this time; last time it was just operator in really baggy Drifter duds
jagged lake
Is each player canonically the only operator existing outside the reservoir?
I can't imagine Ballas went around stabbing thousands of kids in the chest and yeeting them through the void
atomic lynx
Is each player canonically the only operator existing outside the reservoir?
There are other kids, but we are definitely the “main” character whatever that means
jagged lake
So when we opened the reservoir the other players technically woke up as well?
wild wind
I think it's like Voruna, they're scattered around Lua. So off-screen, the other Tenno are collecting their meat bodies.
nova harness
Sleeping
atomic lynx
Lavos after murdering all the Orokin in the prison, “guess I’ll warden again”
wild wind
Nah all that happened during the Old War. After that incident Lavos drops off the map and goes around lone heroing until the collapse.
nova harness
Voruna was probably just having a party on Lua
jagged lake
I still don't get how the Grineer were able to track down Voruna just by having their drahk smell a card
Like was it scratch and sniff or something
Lua scented?
atomic lynx
Where is that card anyhow
jagged lake
Trailer
wild wind
The Leverian.
atomic lynx
I swear I bribe that man with so much credits and I still have to click during the trailer?!
Outrageous
jagged lake
So I'm still kinda confused with the series of events between Natah showing up and her becoming the Lotus
steady gate
Natah arrives
Ballas gets his hands on her, makes her look and act like Margulis, reprograms her into the Lotus
supple dagger
That’s why Natah didn’t kill the Tenno like she was supposed to. Instead, she cared and protected them
jagged lake
So what you're saying is, the Lotus is just Ballas' inflatable love do- [GUNSHOT]
wild wind
Personally I think that the original explanation is correct. Natah is under Ballas's mind control when she tells the new story, and thus suspect.
jagged lake
Also, if Lotus is a Sentient, how did she hide the moon in the void
graceful zodiac
Orokin tech
jagged lake
Ah
nova harness
Did she do it to protect us?
graceful zodiac
Yes. Can't get murdered if no one can reach the pods
frail nymph
Also, if Lotus is a Sentient, how did she hide the moon in the void
Note how we un-hid the moon from the void.
The process would be like that but less... Destructive
cyan crest
Yeah just use the tech instead of destroying it
prime lantern
Wonder how far we could extend our void mode
Isn't there a focus tree that let's you cloak others
Or was that prerework
opaque hearth
Wonder how far we could extend our void mode
Very long, energy pizzas work whilst in void mode
prime lantern
How far
prime lantern
Minutes is not a unit of length
fathom nexus
Minutes is not a unit of length
Void mode is invisibility my fren
prime lantern
I am aware
However before the rework we possessed the ability to give nearby allies the effects of void mode
So I wonder how far we could extend it
fathom nexus
If u asking "how far", u definitely should know u can jump in invisibility mode to go far
prime lantern
What
fathom nexus
So I wonder how far we could extend it
Arcanes can give weird power ups
fathom nexus
Then detail the question
prime lantern
We had the ability to give void mode to nearby allies
So I wonder how far could we spread that range
fathom nexus
Coz this is what an AI will answer
fathom nexus
So I wonder how far could we spread that range
It doesn't do that anymore until I'm ignoring some weird arcanes
zenith jacinth
Coz this is what an AI will answer
Nah, AI is smarter than that
fathom nexus
Nah, AI is smarter than that
I assume u never heard simaris giving us instructions
Nvm I'm currently lore inaccurate
zenith jacinth
~~I assume u never heard simaris giving us instructions~~
I have.
fathom nexus
Doesn't matter, AI is different than simaris
zenith jacinth
Yes
mossy nimbus
So, I've heard from Pupsker that there's a Halloween Warframe coming. I think it's gonna be called Dullahan or Dvorovoi tbh
zenith jacinth
I haven't heard of it, so I don't think it's real
mossy nimbus
I haven't heard of it, so I don't think it's real
If you look at the Tennocon 2023 page on the Warframe website, it should say that Rebecca and the gang will show off the Halloween-themed Warframe
mossy nimbus
I haven't heard of it, so I don't think it's real
zenith jacinth
Hmm. Guess I must've missed the discussions about it
near rune
Oh wtf? I def do not recall them mentioning the Halloween-themed warframe on the last devstream but it does say that on the TennoCon schedule.
Idk if they would call it Dullahan cause that's the name of the existing Halloween cosmetic, but then again they've never let that stop them in the past (Nezha Empyrean vs Empyrean gameplay, Mag Gauss vs Gauss Mag)
zenith jacinth
The gauss mag mag gauss helmet thing is intentional I think
near rune
The helmet definitely is but what I meant is there was an existing cosmetic named Gauss and they still made a warframe called Gauss. Giving him a helmet called Mag was a joke after the fact, I think.
balmy storm
Sirocco Kavat armor
Sirocco the weapon
little surge
was wondering duviri, came to Sythel's (fear) home and as i was doing a paragrim around her home, a man spawned right here, yelled and banged on her wall and disapeared as i got close anyone know anything, knowing her lore its likely to do with that
left slate
was wondering duviri, came to Sythel's (fear) home and as i was doing a paragrim...
That's the question Isn't it kiddo?
little surge
That's the question Isn't it kiddo?
imagine making a man in the wall joke
obtuse gyro
was wondering duviri, came to Sythel's (fear) home and as i was doing a paragrim...
well, I can say Paraoura's Wally joke is indeed apt for what youre asking
little surge
ah wild I see thank you
obtuse gyro
ah wild I see thank you
this same fella is wearing a mask yea? sometimes you see him appear randomly around duviri yea? Its wally trolling duviri yet again
nova harness
Trolling Duviri again? Pretty sure it’s his first time trolling Duviri the last few times was full on assault mode
obtuse gyro
Trolling Duviri again? Pretty sure it’s his first time trolling Duviri the last ...
I mean, the kids was him trolling
rain otter
this same fella is wearing a mask yea? sometimes you see him appear randomly aro...
the masked man person is in set places based on the mood.
nova harness
the masked man person is in set places based on the mood.
Yeah Wally is a person who appears when you feel a negative emotion
rain otter
Yeah Wally is a person who appears when you feel a negative emotion
that's not what i said lmao. I meant he appears in different places in duviri based on the mood.
nova harness
Didn’t say you said that just said he appears in negative emotions
nova harness
He doesn’t appear in joy
rain otter
yes he does
atomic lynx
Aren’t all Duviri emotions negative in a sense? It’s not just Joy it’s excessive and forceful joy. It’s not just anger it’s wrath and loss of self control, fear being extreme paranoia etc. isn’t the whole idea stabilizing those emotions?
nova harness
I mean at the end of your objectives she goes from joy to mental breakdown
obtuse gyro
Duviri was a guidebook on emotional regulation after all
rain otter
Aren’t all Duviri emotions negative in a sense? It’s not just Joy it’s excessive...
they are all extreme. The tablets talks about how Duviri wasn't a childerns book but actually a book given to those exposed to the void to like show them any extreme emotion could like harm themselves and others.
rain otter
I mean at the end of your objectives she goes from joy to mental breakdown
I know somewhere there is a writen down list of his locations based on emition but i am pretty sure he is there during joy as well.
nova harness
Him not showing up in joy would make sense because he has always shown up either trying to scare us or in moments where you feel a negative emotion
Entrati was scared
Wally showed up
Tenno were sad angry and probably other emotions Wally was there
On our ships Wally tries to scare us
atomic lynx
I’m trying to remember all the ending lines when Mathila turns to the worm
Since fear references Wally pretty clearly
atomic lynx
Fear is his thing
I wouldn’t ascribe any emotion to an eldritch being
The whole point is that it’s beyond our ken
nova harness
I wouldn’t ascribe any emotion to an eldritch being
He still tries to use fear more than anything else
rain otter
does he?
atomic lynx
I mean look at that joy
nova harness
He uses others fear he’s Indifferent remember
atomic lynx
We’re not saying he doesn’t use fear, just that it’s not what defines him.
nova harness
It isn’t but as I said he uses fear in others more than any other emotion
nova harness
Yes
atomic lynx
Living his best Wally life
nova harness
Hr gets joy out of scaring others
atomic lynx
Or screwing with em in general
nova harness
I said he appears when people are feeling mostly negative emotions
Tries to scare the life out of me in the regular
Wally has every emotion but he loves to mess with others that’s what he enjoys
atomic lynx
He went out on me for some smokes and dipped for six months
I was so happy when he came back
nova harness
I once spawned for me twice in a day
atomic lynx
It gets lonely in the orbiter if you silence Ordis
nova harness
I can survive Ordis
atomic lynx
But if I hear one more pun I’m joining the wall of bones
zenith jacinth
"I am glad you are back. Cephalon Ordis certainly has many, many opinions."
nova harness
Ordis is a better friend to the Tenno than Space Mom ever was
atomic lynx
I mean Mom has been Silenced for a long time as well, only Cy reigns supreme
“Optimists inbound”
atomic lynx
Cy has the greatest lines in the game
So tempting to post Vor copy pasta now
nova harness
Lol
zenith jacinth
"Look at th-
opal rapids
Cy has some bangers
balmy badger
"Overshields down, widespread pant-crapping in progress."
mossy nimbus
Hey, do you have to fight Kullervo before fighting the Orowyrm?
Idk how to fight Kullervo
supple dagger
No, you can fight him after if you want which is probably easier since you’ll be able to melt him with all the decrees you have by then
mossy nimbus
So, where's the Warden? I looked up that you have to speak to him to initate the fight
supple dagger
He only appears in Anger, Sorrow, and Fear
mossy nimbus
Yeah, I'm in the Sorrow Spiral. I just defeated Luscinia
supple dagger
He’s behind the big house that’s like above the prison
And if he’s still not there, try interacting with the pads that are next to Kullervos cells and then check again if he’s there
mossy nimbus
He’s behind the big house that’s like above the prison
Here?
mossy nimbus
Well, he's not in the chair
supple dagger
And if he’s still not there, try interacting with the pads that are next to Kull...
Try doing that
mossy nimbus
Already did
supple dagger
Well rip must be bugged then
mossy nimbus
I briefly interacted with all 7 pads
Am I meant to listen to the Warden read out the text on each pad and then go to his chair? Or does it not matter?
supple dagger
Doesn’t matter. I tried doing that too when he wasn’t on the chair and he appeared for me
mossy nimbus
Ugh
Wonderful
I wasted 45 mins just to not fight Kullervo because of a damn bug -_-
How do I make him appear?
twin rivet
I have had to leave, go do a decree somewhere else, then come back
(like off the island)
mossy nimbus
I have had to leave, go do a decree somewhere else, then come back
Wdym?
twin rivet
Like go to titan's rest and come back, go far away to cause a reload
twin rivet
try teleport first back and forth, and if not that fly
mossy nimbus
Doesn’t matter. I tried doing that too when he wasn’t on the chair and he appear...
Btw, are you sure he sits in the chair right over the pit to the hold and not somewhere else on the island?
twin rivet
he's in the chair
supple dagger
Mhm
supple dagger
Try fighting Kullervo before the Orowyrm next time
mossy nimbus
Ok
Seriously, though. That is annoying. I wasted an hour getting through that Spiral to fight Kullervo, only to find the Warden decided to go screw himself in a corner of some rundown shack somewhere in the Bahamas
Is it possible that the Lone Story makes it impossible to fight Kullervo btw?
atomic lynx
Oh you did lone story?
mossy nimbus
Yeah
supple dagger
O
atomic lynx
There are no side objectives in line story
supple dagger
He doesn’t appear in lone story LOL
mossy nimbus
Oh...
atomic lynx
It’s literally the lone story
supple dagger
Lol all good. I’ve made that mistake too
atomic lynx
We’ve been there
mossy nimbus
So, in the Duviri Experience, it really doesn't matter if I beat the Orowyrm or not, as long as I can fight Kullervo?
atomic lynx
Pretty much
supple dagger
You need to beat the Orowyrm tho in order to get Kullervos bane. It’s the resource that you need in order to buy his parts from Acrithis
atomic lynx
Basically go for anger, sorrow or fear, my advice is do the spiral anyhow because it could be a mission on it.
If he doesn’t show up, fight worm then go fight him
nova harness
Yes
lusty gate
Any switch player who wanna team up
nova harness
Any switch player who wanna team up
@lusty gate #squad-recruitment
barren dust
So like. Does anyone else feel like Chains of Harrow is by far the creepiest quest?
Legit would fit as a horror movie
prime lantern
I like it because it follows the one big rule of horror
Don't show your monsters
We get told pretty early that rell isn't rell and something far far worse
orchid remnant
i thought the one big rule of horror was to scare people
barren dust
I honestly don't like horror in general but for the most part I've found that they tend to follow pretty closely to established tropes
And this quest fits quite a few of them
For example, in the manifestation gathering quests, we go around collecting basically ingredients for a ritual so that we can bring Rell back into his human form
Also while in those missions, we are chased by something we cannot kill. Period. Which heightens the fear factor imo since from what I can remember this is the first time that's happened in this game
In addition, it teleports in front of us, frequently, reminding us that we are never really free from its haunting
balmy storm
i thought the one big rule of horror was to scare people
That’s the goal, not the rule
barren dust
It's really cool and unique. Plus I like the Ghostbusters references haha
tough shuttle
They ever gonna add cross trade or anything else besides cross play?
supple dagger
They are planning to. Just don't expect them to suddenly become a feature anytime soon
tough shuttle
They are planning to. Just don't expect them to suddenly become a feature anytim...
I heard they was working on it, just didn't know if they said when. My friends on PC wanna trade and have me join their clan but I can't even add them 😂😂
mossy nimbus
So like. Does anyone else feel like Chains of Harrow is by far the creepiest que...
Oh, by far, and that’s what I love most about that quest
I hope DE does something similar for the Halloween themed Warframe. That would be sick imo
mossy nimbus
He doesn’t appear in lone story LOL
Oh, and I forgot to mention last night. Someone needs to update Kullervo’s Warframe fandom page. Because the line where it says he appears in both Duviri Experience and Lone Story is misguiding af lol
pale ravine
mossy nimbus
I'm struggling to parry as Drifter against the Dax on horseback
Idk when to time it
Nvm, I did it lol
atomic lynx
Oh, and I forgot to mention last night. Someone needs to update Kullervo’s Warfr...
He can show up in both though. It’s just random if he’s in lone story
near rune
Yeah the wiki's not wrong. Kullervo can be fought in Lone Story if he shows up as a Spiral stage, but if he doesn't then you can't. In Duviri Experience you can fight him whether or not he shows up as a Spiral stage.
nova harness
You just need the right emotions
wild wind
Well, even in Fear/Sorrow/Anger it's still RNG during a Lone Story run
half sphinx
well, i found an interesting bug
cant see it very well but im in the narmer factory and triggered a deacon, ran up onto the pipes, the deacon followed me but isnt blowing me up
silent pawn
uhm
woeful jacinth
silent pawn
Why the f is Amp damage tied to FPS? What a weird bug
wild copper
Since when is that a thing
silent pawn
Apparently it's a Ballas fight bug
prime lantern
Dps tied to framerate what is this destiny 2
silent pawn
Capping my FPS to 30 made my Amp do 10x more damage per shot
wild copper
That's probably for that fight then, I hunted eidos like last night, didn't have any problems with damage
silent pawn
Usually low FPS decreases DPS in Warframe, so yea, super weird bug
balmy badger
Dps tied to framerate what is this destiny 2
It's a thing in almost every shooter actually, it's impossible to perfectly lock things like fire rate at a completely static interval at variable framerates.
It's just... more noticable in some than others, depends on how spaghetti the code is
silent pawn
Attack speed makes sense, and Warframe has those issues too. But Amp damage?
Maybe Ballas has some damage reduction that procs too often at higher framerates
balmy badger
I could see it.
Sounds like they forgot to even make an attempt to make it compatible with variable framerates.
Was very much designed for the 30fps most consoles would be running it at.
nova harness
Yes on a horse
zenith jacinth
||Assassin's Creed costume? 👀 ||
Ah yes, because hoods only exist in AC
fathom nexus
*We can fly without disturbing the hood
silent pawn
Is Zeriman/Kuva Fortress part of The Steel Path?
woeful jacinth
Yes
mossy nimbus
Yesterday, when I was farming up Kullervo, I maxed out my Opportunity Rank and got to play as Stalker. And honestly, I enjoyed playing as him. I wish we could get him as a Warframe in our Orbiter
zenith jacinth
I'd prefer to get him as a warframe to use in missions, just having him in the orbiter would be kinda boring
nova harness
There’s actually a Stalker game mode where you hunt people
woeful jacinth
Pretty sure that's dev only
mossy nimbus
I'd prefer to get him as a warframe to use in missions, just having him in the o...
Yeah, that’s what I meant to say lol
Get Stalker as a playable Warframe to use in any mission on the Star Chart
But, alas, that may never happen
I wonder how that would even come to pass if DE decided to make it happen 🤔
silent pawn
Red Invader Stalker when?
zenith jacinth
No.
Unless they also add the ability for people who are extremely good at pvp to join people who are getting invaded
real niche
You'll be dead before they even load in
zenith jacinth
You underestimate hunters and overestimate invaders
balmy badger
Literally all Stalker needs to do to kill us consistently is just mod toxin onto his weapons
But for gameplay reasons, he isn't allowed to.
rain otter
also You would be 1 guy VSes 4 players.
also also you would have to make it where 1 Like the invader doesn't die immediatly to ADs but also I won't PVP in my warframe.
prime lantern
And the 4 guys should have to bank 100 index points to beat you
rain otter
lmao
prime lantern
And once you bank 100 a boss spawns
rain otter
no to all of that.
misty inlet
finally bagged the materials to make a necramech, the grinding pauses temporarily
supple dagger
W
nova harness
Warframe grind never ends
tulip stream
yall they ever gonna fix the torid grendel bug where u can eat a bomb and kill urself
fair ether
Eating a bomb sounds healthy wdym
covert olive
someone has never watched the mask
woeful jacinth
Smokin
amber terrace
My brother hasn't completed New War yet but has done some Duviri stuff. Did I make the right call by saying that I had no comment to make when he asked if the Sirocco appears in traditional warframe gameplay outside of Duviri?
woeful jacinth
It is a weapon your operator/drifter can use outside of duviri
amber terrace
I was under the assumption that you only got the sirocco for tenno form use after TNW
woeful jacinth
Just checked and you do need to complete new war to get sirocco
amber terrace
I'm trying my best to spoil as little as possible for my brother, I've done all the quests in Warframe and the only content I haven't fully done is the MR grind, Steel Path, Arcane farming, raids, the Deimos factions, and events that occurred before late 2018 so I don't necessarily have that much that can be spoiled story wise
And given that I recently made my Hildryn Prime 99% optimized plus [Blazing Pillage], Deimos is not too far away from being maxed out : )
woeful jacinth
Nice. Not much really happens in the story until second dream, the war within, apostasy prologue and new war
amber terrace
My brother is at Erra, the only reason he hasn't gone beyond that point is because I want him to build the paracesis for himself
nova harness
He doesn’t actually need Paracecis for New War
woeful jacinth
You don't have to build paracesis strangely enough
amber terrace
I am aware, I just want him to have it for the sake of having it : )
nova harness
He got a RJ and mech yet?
woeful jacinth
Fair enough
amber terrace
He got a RJ and mech yet?
I committed a cardinal Warframe community no-no by gifting him a necramech, he got a railjack some time ago the regular way by doing the rising tide quest : )
My philosophy for getting my brother through the game is that I wouldn't force him to do anything I myself wouldn't do. Around the time New War dropped, I didn't want to bother for the necramech grind(because Hildryn is Not Optimized for Infested combat) so I bought a voidrig for myself, my apologies
nova harness
I remember my friend buying a Railjack even though it’s the easiest thing to get in the game
It used to take 6hours
Now it’s 6mins
amber terrace
Yep
My brother got the railjack through the Rising Tide quest and I gifted him a voidrig because if I can't be bothered to do the deimos grind, why should I expect him to
amber terrace
Fair point, counter point: At the time that New War dropped, I wasn't even rank three with the Entrati, let alone having easy access to any of the non tradable components required to build the voidrig : )
nova harness
DE actually gave mech parts away for some reason
Believe it was when they released Railjack update
amber terrace
Railjack was wayy before Deimos, unless you are referring to DE reducing the time and resource committment for New War for the third time?
amber terrace
DE gave out the necramech parts shortly before New War : )
nova harness
Tbh getting the mech parts is the easy part its the recourses that are the hard part
amber terrace
Yep, and because I didn't have the entrati upgraded beyond like level one, I didn't have access to the blueprints for the minerals and gems from deimos that the necramech needed : )
nova harness
I would sell these parts but most people that need em are on a different platform
zenith jacinth
I committed a cardinal Warframe community no-no by gifting him a necramech, he g...
No one ever said anything against gifting mechs tho
amber terrace
No one ever said anything against gifting mechs tho
Ah, mb. I was under the assumption that buying stuff from the market that could be farmed for was a big no-no in the community
amber terrace
Ah, I knew rushing was a massive no-no, I was just unsure of buying stuff from the market for plat : ), thanks for the heads up 
trim fern
I don’t know if anything that’s just time vs plat is a ‘no-no’ - it’s just personal choice. There are a lot of tradeoffs that don’t make any sense though, and those are likely to get discouraged
You should buy fish parts from daughter for plat? No, that’s crazy. Something that would take time? Up to you, take your pick.
zenith jacinth
I don’t know if anything that’s just time vs plat is a ‘no-no’ - it’s just perso...
Nah, rushing is just a plain waste of plat no matter what
nova harness
There’s plenty of things to do while it builds
prime lantern
Yea but I don't feel like waiting 3 days for a frame
So I end up rushing sometimes
zenith jacinth
trim fern
I meant time fighting RNG when you could be doing something else. Rushing is a bad tradeoff, I’d agree, but I don’t care if someone else wants to spend it that way
glass sun
ah yes, the head on the horse
nova harness
Horseframe
graceful haven
IS SHE MEANT TO LOOK LIKE THIS
graceful haven
no i mean is she mean to be this big
zenith jacinth
No
tepid basin
dude activated the big head mode cheat
left slate
Where do you think all that smart comes from?
nova harness
Void magic
left slate
No, her big head
limpid saffron
doing new war, loving it so far
nova harness
Have you got to sadness yet?
high charm
doing new war, loving it so far
New war is a cool quest
pliant spade
||rip drifter's ordis||
zenith jacinth
zenith jacinth
||rip drifter's ordis||
We never went to drifter's universe. That was our ordis in a drone body because the orbiter was in low power mode. He didn't die.
fair ether
I want to modify ordis body
viscid quarry
To add planet killing guns?
zenith jacinth
Also he didn't die*
I... already said that
viscid quarry
I’m pretty sure that’s not what he meant by that (grammar error or something I guess)
proven bramble
Someone have beautiful AI arts with Excalibur?)
zenith jacinth
AI art isn't welcome here
Well, in the fan art channel, but I assume that extends to the rest of the server
nova harness
AI art is talentless anyway
limpid saffron
i hate deacons
nova harness
Why?
limpid saffron
why is there sight range so damn long, they can just see me across the damn board
nova harness
Just learn stealth it’s a ninja game
limpid saffron
i am
viscid quarry
It’s not that long actually it’s kinda easy once you learn their patterns alternatively just gun it for the elevator or whatever not and pray you don’t have a mask on you
proven bramble
AI art isn't welcome here
It's better because don't want money for do job)
zenith jacinth
Talent costs money.
Artists are people too, they need to be able to pay for food and other stuff
vagrant sphinx
Have you got to sadness yet?
wait there was a sad moment in new war?
I suppose you're not talking about Veso R's death
left slate
Someone have beautiful AI arts with Excalibur?)
lmao "beautiful"
It's an amalgamation of stolen works. There is no beauty in that
nova harness
wait there was a sad moment in new war?
You cannot kill the devil Tenno but you can send them back to hell
left slate
You cannot kill the devil Tenno but you can send them back to hell
This line goes unfathomably hard
nova harness
This line goes unfathomably hard
I still don’t understand why we didn’t just hop back in our Warframe and stab him
woeful jacinth
The plot demands it
left slate
I think we were too emotional to do something
nova harness
Usually when Tenno feel an emotion they wanna kill things though
woeful jacinth
I feel like that's an oversimplification but yeah that's the gist of it
proven bramble
It's an amalgamation of stolen works. There is no beauty in that
Anyway it's more beautiful and faster than man power, and free
left slate
Anyway it's more beautiful and faster than man power, and free
Show me an ai generated picture that doesn't have messed up hands or doesn't look obvious it's ai generated
left slate
Anyway it's more beautiful and faster than man power, and free
You have a bland sense of beauty. You will never be more human than us
proven bramble
Your fault, dear, your fault)
left slate
Xbox live type insult. Sorry you can't convey emotions without cussing
proven bramble
Выглядишь как псевдоинтеллектуал с завышенным эго)
proven bramble
Classic, classic
left slate
indeed it is
zenith jacinth
Ai art is overrated, messy and usually looks like something a rich person would pay way too much money for
nova harness
AI art is talentless
nova harness
Sign of skill issues
proven bramble
AI art is talented more
left slate
Ai art is overrated, messy and usually looks like something a rich person would ...
Because it is lmao
prime lantern
Ai has no talent
proven bramble
More talented
prime lantern
There is no emotion behind art made by a machine
zenith jacinth
A robot can not have talent. It is a human thing.
left slate
This is just another destiny fan all over again
proven bramble
Its beautiful feeling when you make image from words...
zenith jacinth
But alas, ♾️
prime lantern
This is just another destiny fan all over again
Huh? How is this related to destiny
left slate
Huh? How is this related to destiny
There was someone from the destiny community being an annoying child like this guy right here.
prime lantern
I feel like annoying children are in every community
Annoying children arnt unique to specific games
left slate
Its beautiful feeling when you make image from words...
'Words' you tell a robot to spit and chew stolen work
nova harness
Wgis is the new Quaggan
zenith jacinth
Its beautiful feeling when you make image from words...
Send words to an artist and get their true human talent to make something original and unique that isn't a messy amalgamation of stolen art thrown into a trash compactor. I won't use beautiful to describe it because that word is too important in my mind.
left slate
Wgis is the new Quaggan
That's what I was talking about
prime lantern
I've had people tell me umbra is sentient because of a void loop and when I said there wrong they said I hadn't payed attention to the lore or quest
zenith jacinth
I've had people tell me umbra is sentient because of a void loop and when I said...
Ah, a fellow mirror
left slate
Annoying children arnt unique to specific games
True, just reminds me of 2 different destiny fans doing the same thing as this guy
nova harness
I've had people tell me umbra is sentient because of a void loop and when I said...
They must’ve been stuck out of the loop for so long
prime lantern
And I don't believe quaggan played destiny
zenith jacinth
All supporters of ai art give the same incorrect and terrible arguments
All 4 of them
prime lantern
Ah, a fellow mirror<:HappyHyekka:846757209638567976>
Wut?
zenith jacinth
Wut?
The things people say to you apply to them. You're a mirror and they're unintentionally speaking of themselves
prime lantern
Ah
left slate
All supporters of ai art give the same incorrect and terrible arguments
They have no idea what they are talking about
For they don't know what it's like to be fully human
proven bramble
'Words' you tell a robot to spit and chew stolen work
Robots says me what Ai not talented, but in this moment AIs create more interesting pictures than humans...
nova harness
Wgis is AI sent to spy on us
prime lantern
It doesn't
left slate
Robots says me what Ai not talented, but in this moment AIs create more interest...
Than you haven't seen anything interesting enough
Unfortunate
zenith jacinth
AI takes human pictures, destroys them and gives a blurry approximation of the words given to it.
left slate
Typical for an A.I.bro
nova harness
It’s easy to spot AI art
prime lantern
Always got weird eyes or hands
left slate
It’s easy to spot AI art
Way too easy. Even the artstyle they steal from
left slate
Always got weird eyes or hands
Always
nova harness
Can we just throw Wgis into the void
left slate
Can we just throw Wgis into the void
I agree with this proposition
Lohk will for sure like him
proven bramble
Than you haven't seen anything interesting enough
Bots in chat against Ais for example
left slate
Took you that long to come up with another Xbox live type insult? I'm impressed
What else ya got
nova harness
Bots in chat against Ais for example
Stop with your fake emotion AI scum
left slate
"You're an npc" is that your next insult?
left slate
Stop with your fake emotion AI scum
I prefer parasites. Feeding off others work for your own gain
nova harness
Wgis is an evil Cephalon
wild copper
As someone who actually likes AI art because I have no drawing/artistic talent at all, saying that AI art is better than real art is just copium
left slate
As someone who actually likes AI art because I have no drawing/artistic talent a...
ai is a tool, not a creator
wild copper
I agree
nova harness
Liking AI art is fine saying it is talent is a problem
left slate
I enjoyed making ai art but even I know it's not true art
wild copper
I've used AI art to generate a few things that I've had in my mind for years, so I'm kinda fond of it
But I definitely don't go around saying "look, I made this"
left slate
I stopped using it because it's stealing everyone art
left slate
I've used AI art to generate a few things that I've had in my mind for years, so...
Exactly. I used it to make things that I've had ideas for like stories or video games, it was cool but it's nothing close to what true art can convey
prime lantern
I use it to see what it spouts out with the name of popular characters
One of them spouted out a wendigo skull with the prompt of taken king
left slate
One of them spouted out a wendigo skull with the prompt of taken king
That actually sounds really awesome
left slate
I kinda see it
I used to put in the last log of Albretch Entratis into the ai and it basically came up with the end of the world
The one in deimos
||From brooding gulfs are we beheld by that which bears no name.
Its heralds are the stars it fells, the sky and earth aflame.
Corporeal laws are unwrit, as suns and love retreat.
To cosmic madness, laws submit, though stalwart minds entreat.
In luminous space, blackened stars, they gaze, accuse, deny.
Roiling, moaning this realm of ours in madness, lost shall die.
Carrion hordes trill their profane accord with eldritch plans.
To cosmic forms from tangent planes, we end as we began."||
This one
Although that picture is probably going to be taken down
viscid quarry
What in the holy name of RNGESUS did I see with ai art being called talent
viscid quarry
||From brooding gulfs are we beheld by that which bears no name.
Its heralds are...
I’m taking that into my storage of stuff
left slate
What in the holy name of RNGESUS did I see with ai art being called talent
That's what we're saying
left slate
Dm it to me
I deleted all my ai pictures when i got my new phone. They might be on my old phone but that thing is practically a brick now. It's v e r y broken
prime lantern
Ah that sucks
left slate
I can actually search it but I don't remember the specifics so it might take a bit
viscid quarry
I deleted all my ai pictures when i got my new phone. They might be on my old ph...
Oof
viscid quarry
That's what we're saying
Ah who was this supposed supporter of ai art “talent”
left slate
No one did until now
viscid quarry
Ah
left slate
Hasn't chosen a role so they're new or a troll
limpid saffron
finally i beat archon boreal in tnw after some breaks
viscid quarry
Hasn't chosen a role so they're new or a troll
He’s new
left slate
You know what I can just generate another one. Searching for deleted alt accounts is unbearable
limpid saffron
archon nira is just stuck, not moving, and she's invunlerable
what do i do
there are no sentients in the area
supple dagger
Leave and try again
limpid saffron
i can't leave
limpid saffron
she's not moving at all
undone gust
Like bump into her to see if it works
limpid saffron
it doesn't
left slate
You know what I can just generate another one. Searching for deleted alt account...
they made it so you have to pay for a subscription, good riddance. more reason to not to use it
nova harness
Use what?
left slate
Nothing important
supple dagger
new war question ||how come ballas was the big bad in the end? wasn't he a sentient slave in the cut scenes moving up to it?||
nova harness
Manipulation
supple dagger
so that didnt seem super random to people following the story?
nova harness
It did but you see Erra drop his lead at the end of one of the prelude implying they were working together
Ballas manipulates everyone
fathom nexus
Goat leggs buhahaha
nova harness
Ballas not normal
supple dagger
after new war ||so the sentients are friens now and no longer care for origin?||
obtuse gyro
so that didnt seem super random to people following the story?
I mean, I watched as erra dropped the leash after he and ballas tricked Natah into calling the sentient fleet so it definitely wasnt random
supple dagger
after new war ||so the sentients are friens now and no longer care for origin?||
Nahh they still do
nova harness
They just don’t have the numbers to attack large scale anymore
Think Lotuses mom survived the New War end?
supple dagger
the mission felt really disjointed to me. I feel like there were a few spots where some sort of cut scene should have been but it just skipped it like ||firing the front artillery|| and some other scenes as wel
nova harness
I can’t remember where I heard it but I heard somewhere they were struggling to get the quest out with Covid being bad back then
jaunty sparrow
Ngl I fell off my chair first time he showed up. I was in menu so I was really zoomed in
supple dagger
I think I heard them once, but I reflexively turned and ran into the foundry. maybe it was just the "hi kiddo". I didnt find anything when I checked upstairs
balmy badger
Despawns if you walk away yeah.
fair ether
Omg I just LOVE that! (And my phone auto corrected the love into caps. It knows me so well xD)
lone ember
uhm I just had a weird notification on warframe companion app
"Play Zariman Ten Zero Recall Now"
when I opened the app and the news section, there was nothing
something DE posted too early perhaps???
i need answers
nova harness
uhm I just had a weird notification on warframe companion app
Go to your Orbiter there’s new alerts
lone ember
Go to your Orbiter there’s new alerts
okay thank you
wintry plaza
Think Lotuses mom survived the New War end?
Nope
livid portal
nova harness
Unclear
graceful zodiac
She did presumably since Pazuul exists
nova harness
Sentients can bring people back to life?
graceful zodiac
Sentients don't die normally
nova harness
How did giving Ballas fake legs make him Sentient?
balmy storm
They grafted new legs onto him, technically he’d be more of a sorta cyborg I think
prime lantern
Still confused why they didn't archon shard the mother edilion
graceful zodiac
How did giving Ballas fake legs make him Sentient?
It didn't
nova harness
Then why is he called a Sentient hybrid?
prime lantern
Well
He's a hybrid between human and sentient
And we already know he's human so saying "human hybrid" makes no sense
nova harness
We should’ve went for the head
prime lantern
Well our stabbing options were very limited
Considering we are a child
And ballas is very tall
prime lantern
We need to be able to touch umbras arm for him to stab ballas and not make it obvious
nova harness
We extended it didn’t we?
grave garden
.
prime lantern
Yes while hidden and able to reach umbras arm
left slate
Umbra should’ve went for his heart
plot armor ||lohk wills it||
nova harness
Stupid lohk not having an iq past 3
prime lantern
I mean stabs from a tenno against an orokin are pretty god dam lethal no matter what
nova harness
I mean stabs from a tenno against an orokin are pretty god dam lethal no matter ...
Getting stabbed in general is quite often lethal especially in Warframe
prime lantern
The orokin would disagree
prime lantern
Yes but the orokin got stabbed by one of the best stabbers in the world and laughed it off
prime lantern
Yea
prime lantern
To protect us
nova harness
From Orokin?
wild wind
From themselves. The Tenno couldn't control their void powers outside the void, were a danger to others and to themselves.
prime lantern
I suppose but I imagine around the time the schools formed tenno soon could control there powers
nova harness
How does turning off Full potential but keeping us with powers help us
prime lantern
Because she made us forget who we are
wild wind
We literally, actually couldn't control the void powers
prime lantern
We dreamt of what we want what to be so to say
nova harness
But we still had them
wild wind
Like, imagine picking up a fork and void blasting your own hand when it closes
We were also mostly crippled
zenith jacinth
Fun
wild wind
The operator couldn't walk until Teshin ripped off the band-aid during War Within
So you're stuck on a reclining chair with uncontrollable powers 24/7.
Margulis first sealed the void powers so we wouldn't kill/maim ourselves and others, then put the Tenno to sleep with the Second Dream so that they could be helped in the future. They ended up finding the Warframes during the interim, instead.
rain otter
Margulis first sealed the void powers so we wouldn't kill/maim ourselves and oth...
That timeline is in question just cuz of Kullevro.
wild wind
Not at all, the Tenno were put to sleep for several hundred years
rain otter
Can I get a source?
wintry plaza
Can I get a source?
Do the second dreams quest
wild wind
Nothing specific, but the Zariman was the first attempt to colonize Tau, the Sentients were a later one
rain otter
I know it's just Kullevro crimes says he saw them reappear
wild wind
That's because the Warframe project was nearly shelved, the Tenno made contact as the Warframes were being locked up in cold storage next to them
rain otter
The wording seems more like he saw the Tenno come out of the void
wild wind
Which part?
rain otter
Like what does Arrival mean here?
graceful zodiac
No, it's before
wild wind
The Tenno make their move and start murdering Orokin
rain otter
The Tenno make their move and start murdering Orokin
No that's later.
Cuz that's a different Crime.
The night of Naga drums and Like Kullevro maybe even giving like the Tenno the idea for it and stuff is its own later crime.
graceful zodiac
Unless they're deliberately given out of order, It just confirms that the Zariman was not "rescued" until the old war had already started
rain otter
Idk I also learned this not long ago and idk what I means either.
wild wind
Then it would be when the Tenno became Warframe Operators
graceful zodiac
No, that's the next crime
wild wind
And the technocyte warriors transitioned into the modern Warframes properly
rain otter
It's just very werid and if it means like when they came out of the void cuz the Ship was supposed in the void for a long time idk its just very werid.
wild wind
It was missing for like five years
graceful zodiac
That timeline is in question just cuz of Kullevro.
Not really, it just gives a confirmed period for the Zariman leaving the Void
rain otter
Also Kullevros crimes show like he was one of the only proto warframes that wasn't killed by the orokin.
wild wind
Though, the Ember Prime codex entry implies that the ship was only gone for a few days, realtime.
supple dagger
How is Kahl 175 doing?
wicked iron
It was missing for like five years
It would have to be longer than that, since it was sent into the Void before the Sentients had been sent and were constructing the Rails, I believe.
Though, we know it appeared once in a short timespan and seemed totally unscathed. Ember P's codex. That makes me think it then vanished into the Void again, before returning a second time later (when we would have been retrieved). And, of course, the current time being the third and seemingly final return of the Zariman.