spoiler-chat

[supple dagger]

Maybe the only people who knew about Kuva and the Zariman were the people who were educated, as mentioned in ||Caves of Academe||

But we don’t exactly know the time in between the events so that might not be it

[obtuse gyro]

kuva is used as a replacement for beer in the 99 bottle song so its not really clear if you needed to be educated for it

[balmy storm]

Reading it and the effect it had, it’s The Man in the Wall’s blood

[supple dagger]

That could be a possibility. Wally was inspired by the Kuva that our Operator acquired and decided to tweak it a little and make it into his blood or something lol

[supple dagger]

Would be funny if all they knew about Kuva was just that it was liquid and nothing else

[balmy storm]

That or it is kuva and had a similar effect to when we drink it
Eyes black
Smoky whispers

[obtuse gyro]

If their knowledge of kuva is based on Drifter's knowledge, it depends on how much non-orokin humans are told about Kuva itself

[supple dagger]

Maybe Kuva is just different in the Tales of Duviri book

[balmy storm]

What’s describe is actually exactly what happens to us when drinking Kuva, and both instances have beings of void drinking Kuva and connecting to Wally

[balmy storm]

Considering it was probably written by an Orokin they could have decorated Kuva as just a drink the Orokin drink instead of what it actually is, since it’s a children’s story book

[near rune]

Albrecht calls kuva "sacred" so I feel like his daughter would have a bit more respect for kuva than that.

[balmy storm]

Exactly the reason to paint it as just a drink and not the horrible substance it actually is

[supple dagger]

I wonder if Euleria has ever heard Albrechts Vetruvian logs. Like does she even know that they exist?

[zenith jacinth]

Probably knew at some point

[cyan crest]

Probably? It was written by mother

[scarlet basalt]

it would be crazy if next tennocon will only be about albretch entrati.
Like facing the true terror that he unleashed somehow lol

[sharp matrix]

||if my lich has a syandana, do i get it after i kill it? ||

[steady gate]

No

[fleet veldt]

That's just a plain-coloured Harkonar Syandana. There's a Wraith variant that was obtainable during an event that has not rerun in ages - and a full set was also a reward from one of them.

I forgot which, though.

[sullen egret]

Wooooow This is amazing. Devs like Go/Baduk however you call it.

[velvet wing]

Idk if DE likes go/Komi but the community has been asking for more komi for years

[frail nymph]

And we have more now

[velvet wing]

Indeed, and now everyone hates a rodent cause it’s better than them lol

[scarlet basalt]

I was thinking : if dominus thrax is alive because drifter is in the void (so that's why he don't want him to leave this place)...
Does that mean that albretch could be in the void ?

[obtuse gyro]

Albrecht is stated to be in the void, but your premise about why Dominus doesnt want Drifter to leave is false

[scarlet basalt]

Ohhh i thought that it would destroy duviri if drifter leave 🤔
So that's why he keep executing him

[raven marten]

i need help with ||duviri|| idk what tf todo

[obtuse gyro]

Dominus is Drifter's most funky coping mechanism, meant to keep him safe from the outside world where the dangers will kill drifter and he cant come back

also like, that idea is clearly false because Drifter leaves anyways and Duviri doesnt crumble

[raven marten]

||i get the cable till here and then idk where too put it next the clock runs down and i have too start again||

[obtuse gyro]

theres 2 cables

[raven marten]

i have too get them both too middle?

[obtuse gyro]

yes

[raven marten]

k ty

[scarlet basalt]

It would be crazy if Albretch is in the deep void, i think we haven't accessed to that part of the void, and god this sound scary as hell.
Or it could also be a place like duviri and have an architecture that will have literal orokin design

[obtuse gyro]

Albrecht literally visited duviri so

[scarlet basalt]

Ohhh it would be interesting for the future, i guess the upcoming tennocon will focus on him ?

Unless they want to make more lore with him before the "impending doom" or whatever the holdfast said lol

One thing that i don't understand is the kuva.
Like it was told that something that act like the kuva that we can drink in TWW is also something that "grow" on the ground (in duviri) smilar to a infection and drove people to madness
Dominus ordered an orowyrm to destroy access to the island, so... Is Kuva from the void ? Because albrecht entrati said that he will not take kuva.
But his speech was at his first expeditions in the void so ??? I don't understand 😭

[obtuse gyro]

that "kuva" from the bleeding earth isnt something that was intentionally grown, its likely an act of Wally, to further terrorise the Duvirians

[scarlet basalt]

So kuva is actually from the void ? Like the orokin somehow found a way to get kuva from the void.
But it need soils it seems 🤔 so there is a land that is closer than duviri maybe 💀

[obtuse gyro]

no?

Like I said, it was an act from Wally to screw with the Duvirians, this is not representative of how to make kuva

[scarlet basalt]

Ohh ok ok, i thought that it could only be from the void.
Wow then, it also show how powerful MITW is
Invading other people's plane just because they can

[supple dagger]

The Orokin used Kuva wayyy before Albrecht first entered the void

[scarlet basalt]

Btw, albretch didn't create MITW but "released" him no ?
Or i haven't understood what he was doing

[supple dagger]

Sythel mentions, whenever you visit her in her creepy house, that Albrechts worst fears came true when he entered the void which means that he potentially made Wally. Buttt then again Sythel is an Orowyrm so I don’t think it’s right to believe her lol

But yea Wally could POSSIBLY be a void manifestation made by Albrecht like how Dominus is ||a void manifestation made by Drifter||

[scarlet basalt]

his fears was to be in a wall ? What kind of fear he has 😭

[supple dagger]

Yea that’s why I doubt Sythel is telling the truth lol

Or is even right

[scarlet basalt]

he was scared of Da Vinci’s Vitruvian man
If sythel is saying truth this mean that : he is scared of the perfect proportions of the human body ??????

and scared of hydroid rakkham

tbh since it was said that MITW could be formless it could also mean that albrecht was scared of the unknown ? (And periodically has to do some travel inside the unknown 😍 )

[wispy jasper]

I’m not putting all that much stock in what Sythel says, but I would also argue Void manifestations don’t really seem like simple representations of things. Like instead of just instantly get a spooky spider popping up if you have arachnophobia you steep in the void juice a while and it gradually feeds off of all your paranoia and creates a character that’s like your dad with 8 legs telling you he’s proud of you for following the family business that you hate.

[scarlet basalt]

"Is it i that escaped...Or the other"
Make a lot more sense if your theory is right.
So...It is even worse how powerful MITW is

[balmy storm]

Do any of the duvirians still make reference to greek mythology?
Or was that cut too

[supple dagger]

Don’t think so

[wicked iron]

I think The Man in the Wall wasn't made from Albrecht's fears, since the only fear we know of was his fear of failing with his Void experiments (at least from the Requiem words on Deimos). It could be expanded upon later, but for now it doesn't add up to me.

[frail nymph]

And as for the dialogue from the fear manifestation girl, it says that his fear is where all this business began. Not what made him.

[wicked iron]

Ahh, good catch. That could simply mean due to the discovery and subsequent use of the Void.

[obtuse gyro]

Ive been trying to find the exact dialogue (I know its on YouTube somewhere) so I can pick apart the words but I cant find it

[frail nymph]

https://youtu.be/JDyxONr1SvI

[obtuse gyro]

Thats the vid thanks

[cyan crest]

I thought children were missing an arm

[near rune]

They are, at least Barris, Koral, and the creepy singing kids

[cyan crest]

Yeah but that one isn't, right?

[near rune]

Who?

[obtuse gyro]

sythel? shes no child

[cyan crest]

Oh crap that's the fear wyrm

[near rune]

Yeah Sythel's a grown woman

[cyan crest]

Nvm

[supple dagger]

I mean she does mention that his fear took shape. Maybe what she meant by that is that what Albrecht feared in the void just stole the shape of things

[frail nymph]

Yeah, it's explicit that his fear of the void itself at least formed something.

So if it happens to be Wally, he's just a fear of the void/unknown.

[stray lynx]

Is Koral actually in Duviri somewhere? Don’t think I’ve ever seen her except when she’s yelling at me to save doggos

[undone forge]

She's at Mathila's farm

[wispy jasper]

I want to know more about the duviri prisoner guy. Dude must have been getting executed more than we were

Or I guess an equal amount. That’s how the cycle works

[stray lynx]

The conspicuously German dude whose always being assaulted by Dax?

[frail nymph]

Apparently the Liminus are ancestor phantasms whatever that means

[cyan crest]

Personally gonna go with "they're from the book" and leave it at that

[zenith jacinth]

He sounds more french than german to me

[zenith jacinth]

I should probably explain why.
Germans often pronounce "th" as a "v" or "d" sound, which is not how the weird repeat prisoner pronounces it

[frail nymph]

I have a sneaking suspicion Thrax himself might not be from the book and rather be an addition, along with the Undercroft for sure. The big Thrax soldiers are certainly an addition too

[opal rapids]

He seems to alternate to me personally

[cyan crest]

I mean, Drusus mentions children of the empire knowing of the leyends of the venomous thrax, and he's in the pictures inside the book decoration iirc

Also, the doll

[prime lantern]

Isn't thraxx us

Our emotions

[frail nymph]

He's in the pictures?

[frail nymph]

Still based on the doll

[frail nymph]

I know, I was wondering whether the doll is separate from the book

As for Venomous Thrax, I was assuming it could be an additional children's story outside of Duviri

[prime lantern]

Maybe design wise but actions could be based on us

[frail nymph]

I meant lore wise

Uhh... Duviri-book-lore wise

[prime lantern]

Yes I understand

Thraxx is physically based in the doll

Perhaps we filled an empty husk based on the doll with our emotions to give it life

[cyan crest]

Iirc, yes

Can't get a pic rn

[mighty quiver]

Need me a baddie fr

[near rune]

I think the prisoner is meant to represent different people. His identity depends on the mood cycle. So Lodun says he's a citizen who supports Lodun's claim to the throne, which is why Thrax orders him executed, but Luscinia says that he insulted her singing, which is why Thrax condemned him. And Sythel says that she condemned him because she thought he was plotting against her. It's just a limitation that they have to use the same voice lines but they're all different characters.

[near rune]

The book Tales of Duviri is open in the decoration, and there's a picture of Thrax, Luscinia, and Bombastine inside. I'll try to get a screenshot.

So there's some graffiti on the pages but it actually has Dominus Thrax + all 5 courtiers

[supple dagger]

That graffiti looks alot like multiple Zarimans….

[rancid ermine]

Anyone knows if they said what the next prime frame going to be

[graceful zodiac]

It's gonna be Wisp if they stick to order

[rancid ermine]

Ok i thought so

Im guessing we will get info about it after the new frame is released

[frail nymph]

I wanna see the next paaageeee

[supple dagger]

Around how long do I gotta wait till Styanax Prime gets released?

[graceful zodiac]

2 and a half years

[supple dagger]

Nice

[supple dagger]

Hiw do i build my amp for eidolon hunting?

Also just to mention, i dont have onkko or lil duck fully unlocked yet(like rank 2 with both)

[frail nymph]

#builds-discussion

[mental ice]

So.... this happened xD

My operator apparently hit puberty hard and got anemic 😐

He looks like harry potter's house elf with beard, cosplaying as warframe character 🤣

[opal rapids]

Hey kiddo, eat your Wheaties

[balmy storm]

I was kinda bummed to find out we couldn’t interact and read the rest of it :/

[prime lantern]

Same

[uneven sage]

Have a snickers

[frail nymph]

The more I hear Thrax's voicelines, the more I relate to them and realize they're partially a representation of Drifter's self hatred... That inner voice that can keep people trapped in their depression.

[stray lynx]

Wonder what kind of Warframe Thrax will transform into after the inevitable Persona-game-esque showdown?

[fleet veldt]

What if that's when *he gets his first warframe *- which happens to be your first warframe?

Would be an interesting threat to have Thrax become a persistent threat, literally copying whatever loadouts you throw at Duviri to use against you elsewhere while using phrases like "Stop resisting. I need you back here y e s t e r d a y." or "Is this why you're always out here? Isn't it boring?"

[prime lantern]

How would thraxx remain a threat

He's us

We control him

[fleet veldt]

He's pretty independent, though. I'd rather think that the 'threat' he'd pose is more out of an agreement we'd make with him that could change on a regular basis.

Example: Warframe spectres in both Undercroft and Duviri generally which could drop augments and other unique mods/arcanes for frames - their spawns being limited by how many Undercroft gates you completed in Duviri, and how many rounds of Circuit you've done.

[scarlet basalt]

A hunter ? Like zanuka,gustrag three ?
It would be cool, but i don't think thrax would do it, tbh most of the duviri citizen can't go to the undercroft ircc... So i doubt Sol would be possible

[prime lantern]

Hes independent until drifter takes the chair

[real drift]

Spoiler alert: we are children

In all seriousness, who is Thrax?

Im so confused

[supple dagger]

Thrax was made from Drifters emotions

And that’s cause the void combined with extreme emotions always results in weird void shenanigans happening

[real drift]

So

Inside out

But screwed up

[supple dagger]

I’ve never watched inside out ngl but if that works for you then sure lol

[real niche]

Inside Out of the main character was thrown into their own mind.

But also Duviri is a physical place that exists

[wild copper]

inside out except the core memories manifest themselves into reality every day... traumatic memories included

[zenith jacinth]

And then he's independant again because drifter resets duviri to before teshin died

[real drift]

Also im confused on who lotus is

Like does she just have multiple personalities?

[zenith jacinth]

Lotus is natah but having multiple personalities forced into her resulted in lotus

[real drift]

Also how does lotus become a massive sentient

[frail nymph]

She sits in a battle station chair and connects to it.

Also she has always been a Sentient. A Mimic type Sentient.

[tiny depot]

anyone what the new frame abilities are yet

*know

[raw anchor]

what do i have to do here?

[obtuse gyro]

walk

[raw anchor]

where tho i walk in the two directions

[obtuse gyro]

follow the branch

[raw anchor]

Oh alr got it

found my way

i haven't put a mod on ||umbra yet and he is tanky af||

why is he rank 30 already?

[real drift]

Hes an old warfram

[raw anchor]

Oh silly me

[real drift]

Basically hes been roaming since the old war

[raw anchor]

Nice

i am hyper and jumping around and screaming. i hope the neighbors wont call the cops.

[real drift]

Congrats dude

[raw anchor]

i shall take a break.

[real drift]

Ight

Go make some beats

[raw anchor]

and hey can u dm me invite to ur discord server it doesn't work in your youtube channel

[frail nymph]

He is not old.

[frail nymph]

Umbra was built from the foundry

[raw anchor]

Yes but he was long there

Plus no warframe with such skill would be 5 seconds to build

[frail nymph]

Umbra literally was 5 seconds to build

from nothing.

That's how Orokin Tech works

[raw anchor]

Yes but they even said it, it is an acient frame

[frail nymph]

Umbra is possibly newer than every other frame, in terms of when they were invented

[raw anchor]

Mhm

[frail nymph]

And the Umbra that you use has an age of 1 quest duration

[frail nymph]

Basically, your Umbra is no more ancient than any typical frame

[raw anchor]

Mk

[prime lantern]

Time to build isn't really canon

Orokin technology is basically magic in terms of how fast and efficient it is

And you can just make a real dude

[raw anchor]

hm okay

[scarlet basalt]

Somehow the orbiter can create dude maybe 😔

[prime lantern]

What?

[real drift]

Inglich

[vagrant kettle]

Is the new nightwave startin in 6 minutes?

[near rune]

Nightwave: Nora's Mix #3 is ending (has ended?), and Nora's Mix #4 won't start til later. Maybe a week or so? They haven't yet announced a start date.

[vagrant kettle]

Didn't they say the 4th one will start today?

Cuz they just moved the end date of 3rd up a week, nothing was said about the start of 4th going up a week as well

[near rune]

From the Forum post: "With the new end date of Nora's Mix Vol. 3, we are adjusting the launch of Vol. 4 - stay tuned for the new date!"

[vagrant kettle]

ah aight, thanks

[raw anchor]

This is for the people that we're stuck on the sacrifice like me.
||So when u have to deplete Excalibur Umbras shield, use the Mote amp, i recommend youtube tutorials.
the orikin security puzzle code isn't as hard as u think. Follow ordis codes of lines and u will be done!
and the part where is gold just keep walking confused me too||

||Hope you enjoy Excalibur Umbra after :D||

i hope this will help people

and please correct me on something if i was wrong

i will edit it!

[steady gate]

well, not all of that is part of the Sacrifice

[raw anchor]

Wait

I might have mixed them up with another quest

Sorry

[polar stream]

is there any other weapons i can use with my Operator? i was kinda hoping i could run sun and moon on it but that dosnt seem to be the case

[velvet wing]

You can build modular amps

[real drift]

Wheres a good spot to go high up

[viscid quarry]

Use gara to cheese umbra since he can be insider her 4 and just sit down and accept the transference as you just stay there and blast the shields off of him

[real drift]

Does harrow prime work

[raw anchor]

i did that aswell but he keeps running around

i recommend go somewhere where he can't reach and then beam him

[cyan crest]

I recommend building an amp

Just in general
Mote... mote is bad

[raw anchor]

but i used it to kill ||Excalibur Umbra||

[cyan crest]

Yeah, but another amp would probably do a quicker job

Also, not really kill, just deplete his shield

[raw anchor]

yeah

[cyan crest]

In any case, for things like the ropalolyst boss later and some enemies even later you'll probably want a better amp

Oh and Eidolon hunting of course, i forgot about that

[hushed warren]

The New War was not fun. At all 😭

[cyan crest]

[supple dagger]

Probably a weird bug or something. It shouldn’t be a big deal tho

[real drift]

Bro this is spoiler chat

You dont need to spoil crud

[raw anchor]

oh okay

[cyan crest]

That's probably just the texture not loading :p

[balmy storm]

Turn enhanced graphics on, iirc you can turn decals on in settings too
If neither of those work idk

I used to have the same issue, enhanced fixed it, they added decal option somewhat recently iirc which might work without enhanced (haven’t tested it)

[supple dagger]

Possibly upcoming Warframe (might be a developer testing stuffs)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/13lj32y/someone_playing_as_stalker_in_the_star_chart/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1

[obtuse gyro]

inb4 its not a dev and someone hacked the game lmao

[supple dagger]

let me hope 🤣

[prime lantern]

Pretty stalker hacks have existed for a while

[velvet wing]

Can’t believe they brought him out for this

[obtuse gyro]

wow

[prime lantern]

Who?

[fleet veldt]

I just saw the name and went awh, poor guy, why did they do THIS to you? after he got Nataruk'd in the everything so much he couldn't even.

[viscid quarry]

How how how how how how

[velvet wing]

You’ll see 😘

[viscid quarry]

Pretty sure that’s not index so again just tell me how plz I’m after the decoration he drops

Wait that’s sergeant assasination mission when did they swap

[viscid quarry]

What

[rugged ridge]

Spoilers: ||It's one of the current anniversary alerts||

[viscid quarry]

This is spoiler chat

[rugged ridge]

I understand lol. The people above you didn't seem to want to spoil it

[supple dagger]

This is from the new war so imma ask it here: is this mask a reference to Duviri?

[balmy storm]

Yes

[fleet veldt]

And from Duviri, depending on which quest you play first, since the mask also makes an appearance in Duviri as part of the mirror table encounters you can find across Duviri in Experience mode.

[supple dagger]

I see, alright, yeah I've played Duviri first

How curious haha

[viscid quarry]

Just did the prodman anniversary missions shame I can’t scan him nor does he drop the decoration

[velvet wing]

It’d be kind of a cheat if he dropped the poster

[viscid quarry]

Still I wish

[fathom nexus]

The autograph is legendary, the grind is misery.

It'd be fun to watch Clem Grataka vs John Prodman battle to see who wins, although it's hard to give them uninterrupted fight

[stray lynx]

Every time I've run that mission it just gets speedrun.

[raw anchor]

Spoiler 😄

You get Excalibur Umbra when you do the sacrifice quest

[viscid quarry]

Ik the grind is hellish

[real drift]

can you switch between drifter and operator?

[velvet wing]

Yes

[real drift]

legit?

[wispy jasper]

There’s a hand icon in the operator menu you can click on

[real drift]

bet

[vital creek]

yea, its mostly a cosmetic difference, but drifter does have a much better slide than op

[balmy storm]

Different hitboxes too

[runic marsh]

When will the nightwave came out

[placid orbit]

I wonder if we will get the nemesis system for infested at some point.
Either some random evolution within the hive mind, or the Family uses transference with clone bodies to finally escape from Deimos, but Deimos learns to mimic the tech at the same time, creating their own immortal Apex Infested.
... From which we then can rip the claws, acid ducts and whatever else can be a weapon. There are enough purely organic looking weapons that could fit to a infested body.

That wouldn't even have to remove the Family from Deimos, instead we get yet another faction from their non-infested copies. (Who could have some impact on the Grineer and Corpus, as they are the only (known) living Orokin and all.)

[bright kettle]

I want to share a random thought I have been having

I dont like the fact that Drifter created Duviri becuz they were scared. Like seriously, children were abandoned and scared and being hunted by their parents. Why isn't every operator Drifter in that sense ?

[placid orbit]

Could be a communal effort. Every child there was traumatized, so they all wanted to get away. One wish, but different plains of fabricated reality?

If that annoying orb thief was created from Yontas childhood fears alone, a whole cluster of islands with citizens going about needs a bit more power, like from many people at once.

[clear coral]

wasnt duviri a storybook that was affected by the void?

[placid orbit]

I think it was what the child(ren?) imagined the book world to be, mixed with the void horrors

[clear coral]

drifter denied the deal from the man in the wall, which made them drifter

[clear coral]

i guess

[still sparrow]

I believe they said that we will get it, but not this year.

[frail nymph]

You know how it's very ambiguous what happened to the remaining Tenno after Lua came out of the Void in TSD?

We protect the pods in Undercroft defense... They must be related.

Teshin says we're changing the history of those pods being lost...
Either he's misunderstanding Eternalism or he's right...

If he's wrong, then all the Tenno of the Origin system are from the same timeline; and a lot, if not all of the non-protagonist Tenno were saved by Drifter in TSD. There was no change there.

If he's right, then the non protag Tenno of operator timeline often died in their pods after TSD... And nothing can change that cause Eternalism. But also thanks to Eternalism, Drifter saved them from other timelines and now we all do missions together.

[midnight frost]

Survival 5 hours prime junks farm come to my lobby

[frail nymph]

Wrong channel

[midnight frost]

Which Chanel plz

?

[wicked iron]

First go to #757632548842111086 to choose your platform, then you can either use your platform's squad channel or #squad-recruitment . 🙂

[frail nymph]

Anyway, thoughts?

[shell holly]

I think it's a super neat take tbh :0

It's like Drifter's paying forward their gratitude for the Operator's help in keeping them from not dying (as much) in Duviri, perpetuating a constant circle of (self-)kindess that benefits both versions of self and (kinda) both timelines

The true lore hounds will probably contest me, but I feel like it's a pretty solid explanation for how/why we have so many Tenno running around

[obtuse gyro]

perhaps if he's right that might explain why during TNW somehow no other tenno was around

[frail nymph]

It might explain how Tenno might have been brought back to the system after Act 3...

But it doesn't fully explain where all the other Tenno went after Act 1

[cyan crest]

Guess it makes lotus seem kinda dumb? For not awakening them i mean
Unless she did, after driftygirl saved the pods
Things really art turning confusing

[naive merlin]

Ah, I see.

Is it just me or does Kaelli seem like more of a very mean and uncool person than usual in Veilbreaker?

[near rune]

I mean, it's not a side of her we would have seen before, seeing as it's the first time we see her interacting with a Grineer.

[frail nymph]

How am I just now remembering that we have indeed seen the other (right) side of the Zariman. The Crysalith entry is on the right side

[round oar]

im new how i can get platinum

[frail nymph]

#players-helping-players

[round oar]

thanks

[rugged ridge]

She also totally grows past it and learns differently after the quest itself. Listen to some of the transmissions between her and Kahl in the garrison, it's really sweet

[craggy solstice]

Wasn't that hinted at within a few devstreams ago?

[supple dagger]

Yea it was mentioned during the Duviri AMA in Reddit

[prime lantern]

I think a problem with the infested nemesis system would be how there brand of immortality would work

Because infested minds don't seem to be able to be full killed considering there infested and all it takes to make them is biomass

By infested mind I mean like slightly more complex infested like lephantis and phorid

And also I'd be like our 7th instance if "they're you but different"

[obtuse gyro]

eh, we have the twin worms constantly blow each other up and come back, its not hard to imagine how infested nemesises (or nemesi?) come back from the dead for round 2

[prime lantern]

Right but then how do we full kill them

We know requim severs lichs immortality because void and kuva don't mix

Sisters I'm not sure

But if the infested are just making a new body how are we stopping them from doing that

[obtuse gyro]

just blow them up hard enough they dont wanna use that infested strain to combat us specifically any more

[prime lantern]

I suppose

Death don't seem to stop the infested

They throw hoards ands hoards of themselves at us

It's not like oryx and the vex where the vex just stood still in the vault

They keep coming at us no matter how ineffective it is

[pliant spade]

infested r just roaches, they keep coming no matter how many u kill them

[uneven sage]

Wonder if infested nemesis would just be pseudo Warframes since Warframes is a product of a strain of infestation.

[viscid quarry]

Maybe like say you kill a sort of seedling type of unit and do the whole shebang and the nemesis looks like the frame you killed it with

[stray lynx]

Some sort of freakish helminth hybrid of the progenitor frame and a giant centipede?

[prime lantern]

I'd really rather the infested rivals not share similarities with warframes

Having the enemy be you but different already exists

[cyan crest]

Literally every lich

[stray lynx]

Some sort of evil version of the Entratis then? Giant blue tentacle people.

[cyan crest]

Why the Entrati? That's just an infested orokin

[stray lynx]

Infested Orokin look pretty cool

Cooler than Alad the fifth anyway

[prime lantern]

More ment archons

Archons are literally you

[cyan crest]

Liches and Sisters literally have warframe abilities

[prime lantern]

I forgot that tbh

I melt them insanely fast

[stray lynx]

Liches have cooler finishers. I’d love a Steel Meridian frame that used the Lich finisher animations

[prime lantern]

I want a rival that's a rival because they're uniquely Powerful not because they have my abilities

[stray lynx]

If they buff Stalker he could be that.

[prime lantern]

Stalker has my abilities

Him and his 4 siblings are literally me

[stray lynx]

You play Ash? 😋

[prime lantern]

Not even me but different

They're me

[cyan crest]

Let's see, we have:
-The Stalker (literally us[as in, abilities and such])
-Liches and Sisters
-Archons
Yeah we need a bit of variety in rivalesque characters

[prime lantern]

Like lichs and sisters have a different design than me

Stalker is just me

[cyan crest]

Archons have cool new abilities and animal heads

Yeah Stalkyboy is the least original one there

[prime lantern]

They're actually cool I like them

Doing you but different can work for example the lucent hive in destiny have the same power source as you but use it in a unique ish way

Except for titans which is a little meta for me

Lucent hive titans and normal titans have the same abilities which I find funny because being rezzed as a titan gives the the urge to punch the snot out of everything

The lucent hunters have a different super and dodge differently than you

And the lucent warlocks have an aoe heal and I forgot the super

[hallow raven]

Kahl-175 such a good guy

[prime lantern]

Kahl is that guy man's soloed the wolf of Saturn six

[hallow raven]

Kahl is literally him

[wicked burrow]

Anyone else tink, that since the circuit make you pick a frame path, even tho you are running sp for the weapon, that you should get exp for the frame path as well

[viscid quarry]

A narmer amagalmized wolf of Saturn six after killing a entire murex worth of sentients and freeing essentially everyone

[fierce pier]

I know mag is the snake

I forgot who are the wolf and owl

[white elm]

Owl is nyx prime and wolf is rhino prime

[dreamy saffron]

Nyx? The Owl is Loki

[fierce pier]

Thx hun

[viscid quarry]

Wait isn’t the snake mag prime

[white elm]

It looks like nyx prime

Yup it is

[viscid quarry]

Oh

[fierce pier]

The one i got

[graceful zodiac]

It's Loki Prime

[thick jolt]

Owl is loki prime just look at those knees

[white elm]

I wish they gave a archeon ephemera

[fierce pier]

No no no

Idfk what i want

[obtuse gyro]

Boreal is on loki, not nyx

[white elm]

Hmm

[fierce pier]

I am ready law

[white elm]

I’m not home yet

Plus I need to get my kitgun built

Yes they are really good

[fierce pier]

You are not home why

[white elm]

Blame family

Me and blue made a agreement to do new war at the same time

[fierce pier]

Mmmm

[obtuse gyro]

Well, I can safely say you dont need that strong gear since the enemy levels arent that high

[white elm]

I know I’ve been telling her that

[fierce pier]

Idk why i am scared

[balmy storm]

Cause it’s a big quest

You’ll have fun don’t worry

[fierce pier]

Ok

[hallow raven]

"You'll have fun don't worry " mfs when cornball stealth around the cornball deacons

Literally the only part of The New War I didn't like

Nothing compared to Kahl-175 saying "No... for my brothers" though

[white elm]

I hated the time lock

[twilit geode]

For the life of me I do not understand how people struggled with Deacon stealth. The path to take is laid out obviously, like the piles of tires on the corners of a racetrack. The Deacons have super obvious visibility cones in front of them, and you just gotta wait sometimes for a couple seconds for them to move. You even have abilities given to you to stun or distract them.

[balmy storm]

Fun to me

[hallow raven]

I hate stealth

My least favorite approach in any game, with the unique exclusion of Payday 2

[wispy jasper]

I thought it was a pretty bog-standard stealth mission, but maybe I’m more of a sneak gremlin than I gave myself credit with the reception it received

[twilit geode]

The only thing the stealth path was missing was flashing neon arrows pointing the direction to go. Yet I still in watching people’s gameplay footage, saw streamers trying to jump over the barricades and make a straight line toward the objective, then complain when they fell smack dab in front of a deacon.

[wispy jasper]

I did that too, but I guess I’m used to being punished for trying a cheeky shortcut

[prime lantern]

Sounds like yall arnt running fast enough

[hallow raven]

Now that's just stupid

The whole point of stealth is to yk, be sneaky, not get caught

Take it slow and hide behind cover

Just for a Deacon to detect you through a wall

[real drift]

Bruh

What

[supple dagger]

Interestinggggg

Wonder if it’ll be Drifter or Dominus

Btw it’s one of the rewards for the new upcoming Nightwave

[velvet wing]

Didn’t we get a kaithe display from their drops campaign?

[supple dagger]

I don’t remember. All ik is that there’s the Orowyrm poster, that cool Dominus statue that you can get by solving a puzzle on Warframes website, and some other things

[supple dagger]

Ohhh then it’s probably just that then lol

I really should keep an eye out for those drops

There’s also this too

So hopefully that means we get a Krubie(think that’s how you spell it) skin

[stray lynx]

More likely than a tamm skin

[hallow raven]

So upsetting that Umbra has the best lore of any Warframe in the game and one of the best quests and is the buggiest frame in the game

[sweet stirrup]

I think Sevagoth takes the crown of buggiest warframe

but yeah, Umbra does have a bunch of bugs

also I am waiting for DE to fix Excalibur slash dash stat-stick, it can't crit at all.

[novel ermine]

i just want a whole AI revamp

but i dont expect it tp be ezy sense this is spakety code

[pliant spade]

would nice to see excal umbra roam around the orbiter and drifter camp when we're not using him

[true oar]

Any ETA for Gauss Prime?

[supple dagger]

He’ll come after Wisp Prime and she’ll probably get revealed at Tennocon so expect Gauss Prime in Winter of this year

[velvet wing]

Tennocon would be really late, that would be 5 months between primes and would throw off the schedule for the others, they’d need to cut Wisp’s time short to get in two more primes this year

[brisk moss]

imma erase his tear ducts

[fathom nexus]

[hallow raven]

Umbra has the worst bugs

He has an augment ability that could give him the most disgusting damage imaginable, or just disappear the second you turn into your Operator

[hallow raven]

Would be, but what does not using your warframe in the orbiter really accomplish aside from slow you down?

[zenith jacinth]

I think they meant when he's not equipped

[hallow raven]

What happens to warframes when they're not equipped?

Does the Helminth eat them and store them in his little Helminth belly?

[prime lantern]

There stored in the armory

[hallow raven]

What armory

Where does my tiny little Orbiter have space for an armory?

[prime lantern]

Magic

[wispy jasper]

space between the hallway?

[prime lantern]

Orokin tech probably miniaturesized the frames

[wispy jasper]

We’ve got like a community theater sized space in the back of the ship, it ain’t that small

[opal rapids]

Pretend they're just magnetized to the hull. It's funniest option.

[wispy jasper]

My decor is basically space trucker, so I’ll take that as my canon

[woeful jacinth]

He keeps the buff now for furious javelin

[hallow raven]

Umbra loses all buffs when switching to Operator

They just vanish without a trace

[woeful jacinth]

He doesn't lose the buff from furious javelin and exalted blade after a hot fix a couple weeks ago. Other abilities will still disappear though

[obtuse gyro]

Yea I tested it recently, furious jav and exalted stays but other abilities get wiped

[hallow raven]

Are you sure?

Or are you attempting to gaslight me?

Because I swear my furious javelin went away when I used my operator to revive a teammate literally last night

[woeful jacinth]

I'm 100% sure. I'm not gaslighting you

[hallow raven]

Words of a gaslighter

Show me the patch notes lil bro

My furious javelin vanished literally last night

[obtuse gyro]

oh no they broke it again

[obtuse gyro]

we werent gaslighting you, before duviri furious did not disappear, I checked it myself

but I just checked it and its no longer working again

[woeful jacinth]

I can find the exalted blade hot fix but not the furious javelin one.

[hallow raven]

Umbra won't be fixed 😔

[woeful jacinth]

The exalted blade fix was during update 32 for veilbreaker
https://www.warframe.com/updates/pc/32-0-0

[balmy storm]

The Orbiter’s pretty big

[hallow raven]

That doesn't look like the little Orbiter I know of🤔

I think you're spreading misinformation🤨

[frail nymph]

What?

[balmy storm]

That’s the orbiter, you’re thinking of the landing craft.

Look toward the front, you can see the landing craft lol

[hallow raven]

Ong? On fr? Damn

I suppose the orbiter is a mild size then

[balmy storm]

Yeah, when you go to the drifter camp and check starchart you can see the orbiter in it’s full glory orbiting earth

[frail nymph]

This is the thing you can wiggle around in mission loading screens

[hallow raven]

Really? I haven't gone to my drifter camp much

Mb bbg

[balmy storm]

Tbh I wish they’d show off the full thing more often to avoid this kind of confusion

[supple dagger]

Soo I’m assuming 7 Crimes of Kullervo has something to do with getting punished by Dominus

And maybe the 7 crimes are like based off the actual 7 sins

[balmy storm]

The 7 crimes of Warframe

1. Being mean to Clem

[obtuse gyro]

or one for each of the 7 tenet thingamobs

[supple dagger]

Huh? You mean the Tenet weapons?

[obtuse gyro]

no

[supple dagger]

Oh wdym then?

[obtuse gyro]

Im trying to find it but there's something about virtues and stuff

[prime lantern]

Oh Jesus our landing craft is huge

[obtuse gyro]

oh its just the 7 principles from the halls of ascension

[balmy storm]

I looked up the 7 tenets and the immediate result was the seven tenets of the satanic temple

[prime lantern]

Real

I need to further my plans of turning sentient corpses into cpus and gpus

I could sell them for a billion dollars

[obtuse gyro]

also found in
The projection of Executor Ballas swelled large in front of me. I could see his purity, his symmetry, the beauty of his glittering gold irises. His voice thundered, “The principles are clear. Your sentence is death. May the Void forgive you.”

My green death was coming, so I roared at them, “Did our ancestors, burned by fire, reject its power? No. They conquered their fear and learned to control it. The Seven Principles are a joke.”

from the detron crewman

[supple dagger]

Ohhhh

That’s a really good theory

[prime lantern]

Hehehe stasis

[balmy storm]

There’s a lot of things with 7

The Seven
Those principles

[supple dagger]

7 principles make the most sense Imo

[balmy storm]

Idk if it’s gonna relate to the corpus tho

[supple dagger]

Wait do we know what the 7 principles are? Are they literally the names of the different tests you can do on Lua missions?

[near rune]

The patch notes from Update 18 indicate that it's the Lua tests, yes. "Master the Seven Principles on the Orokin Moon. The Halls of Ascension are tightly wound into the fabric of known Orokin civilization. Uncover secrets along your path across the moon. Challenge yourself in seven unique rooms across seven principles for new unique Mod rewards. The measure by which the Orokin were judged will now put you to the test."

[supple dagger]

Oh ok

[obtuse gyro]

they come hand in hand

[balmy storm]

Ah

Maybe it will then

[supple dagger]

I wonder then if Dominus deemed the 7 Principles unholy or bad in his kingdom. We know that the Duvirians knew them from Caves of Academe

[near rune]

I doubt it. The Duviri citizens, including Thrax, hold the Orokin in high regard and seek to emulate them.

[balmy storm]

Considering they come from a story book written by the Orokin too

[supple dagger]

So then maybe Kullervo didn’t follow the 7 principles like how everyone else did

[near rune]

That would make sense, I think.

[supple dagger]

I wonder then if he had an operator

[balmy storm]

I’m more curious how a Warframe is in Duviri, where did he come from, how, why

[supple dagger]

My bet is that Wally sent him in as an experiment to see how Duvirians would react or something lol

[balmy storm]

Depending on when in Duviri’s history they manifested and their origins it could be something recent, maybe due to Drifter gaining access to Warframes Dominus wanted to do the same thing

Considering how Dominus feels betrayed by Drifter and Kullvero’s theming of betrayal it could match up

[real niche]

"In the world beyond the wall" aka whatever is going on in Operator's side

[supple dagger]

Kullervos head looks similar to Dominus so he might’ve been made in Duviri or like how Ducky said

[balmy storm]

I think he’ll definitely have ties to Dominus, the helmet and themes are too similar

[novel ermine]

hay i vant seen the whole imgage

[tacit venture]

Meanwhile, the other ships:

[fathom nexus]

Plexus?

Where's the railjack connecter?

[kindred briar]

that concept was designed long before Railjack was

[fathom nexus]

Update

[cinder steppe]

How does the story pick up after the Duviri quest as a new player?

Like we know that the drifter didn't got out of Duviri until the New War. But at the end of the quest the drifter has a choice between leaving Duviri and staying there. I myself am a veteran player so I already did all the other quests. But how does it work if you're new? Like do you just stay in Duviri until you hit the New War? Or does it lead right into Vor's price?

[near rune]

If you're a new player and you choose the Paradox Path, you play The Duviri Paradox quest. At the end of the quest, you can choose to Leave or Stay. If you Stay, you remain in Duviri, playing it as long as you want. If you Leave, the game immediately transitions to the Awakening quest. I've tested this myself on new accounts.

[cinder steppe]

And how does the game get back into "the standard story" if you choose to stay?

[real niche]

You just pick it

Duviri is no more complicated in the menus than a node in the mission select screen

[near rune]

I'm still testing it but I believe you can leave the Dormizone at any point (probably via the elevator), and at that point it will start the Awakening quest.

[cinder steppe]

I'm still wondering how the Duviri Paradox kinda ties into the New War with that end decision. I mean it is implied during the New War that the Drifter didn't leave Duviri until after the Operator got yeeted into the void by Ballas. And the Drifter has also spend quite a bit of time with Lotus her hand, all while they didn't have much of an idea what was going in the Sol system.

Unless the switching to the regular Warframe path at the end of the quest is more of a way to show you what is happening while the drifter was in Duviri and the drifter's story after the quest actually doesn't continue until the New War.

If that's the case, the new player will spend a very long time wondering what the hell happened to the drifter. They will probably think that the Drifter is controlling the Warframes for most of the game, until they get to the Second Dream. Which will make them scratch their heads, only for the New War to show them the Drifter again where everything finally makes sense.

Now that makes me wonder what the hell happened to the Operator while the Drifter took their place

[near rune]

And by the time they get to The New War, who knows how much a new player will remember from The Duviri Paradox

[cinder steppe]

That too

But we'll probably never find out because DE said on the Reddit Q&A that they won't be filling us in what happened during the time skips of the New War.

[fleet veldt]

Duviri could be considered as that regardless of when you played it. Which feels unfortunate as I was hoping to see more fully-fledged high-order Sentients like the Ropalolyst out on the battlefield.

Still, with Narmer being a Sentient holdout of sorts and the question of when/if Erra will be free of Pazuul, I won't be surprised if we see another Sentient campaign of sorts - if not their involvement in other quests that relate to the state of the System after the New War.

[steady gate]

I still want the eidolon Ropalyst; it’s a literal meathead

[gloomy cove]

I found a chip in Orb Vallis that can't be picked up but have "Data-Hash" name when inspecting it. Is it part of a story/mission/quest?

[velvet wing]

It’s a memory fragment, you scan them

[near rune]

The data hashes are actually from Operation: Buried Debts. They have no purpose now. There are also "debt-bond fragments" that reveal lore about the characters of Fortuna when scanned, but those are different.

[steep delta]

what does the infested suit look like?

the one from Season 2 of nightwave

[supple dagger]

You can see it if you check out the current nightwave rewards

[spiral venture]

You can get the infested operator suit in nightwave?

[clear coral]

yes, used to be in nightwave 2

played back then but never got to it

i wish we could deploy as drifter without a frame in any mission

[wheat ether]

it'd also be nice if operator/drifter could ride k-drives or kaithe in open world areas

[clear coral]

agreed

[wheat ether]

drifter does both of those things during the new war/duviri, respectively

[clear coral]

yez

[wheat ether]

and also

kinda weird that you cant use your archgun with your archwing

[clear coral]

we need kaithe-drives

[clear coral]

gravity renders them useless

[wheat ether]

archgun deployer

[clear coral]

gravimags required

[wheat ether]

yeah

[clear coral]

the archwing swords are giant ceiling fan blades

EXACTLY

DE PLEASE MAKE THIS REAL

[wheat ether]

if they opened up an official player suggestion forum/competition that'd be radical

i have so many ideas

[clear coral]

yea

[wheat ether]

the biggest being an open world archwing/railjack area, featuring those massive chasms and tendrils of deimos

i mean look at that

[clear coral]

agreed

missed opportunity for deimos proxima

[cinder steppe]

Anyone else remember when Steve said we were supposes to use our Railjacks to navigate through that before we could enter Deimos?

[obtuse gyro]

nope

[true oar]

Any ETA on kullervo?

[obtuse gyro]

find out on today's devstream

[true oar]

Boy do i feel lucky. I didnt think theyd reveal it later

[obtuse gyro]

i mean, find out if theres an eta

theyve confirmed that we'll see gameplay

[velvet eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-jared-leto-clown-batman-gif-11060755

kallervo

[whole prawn]

Kullervo in june this year

The 7 crimes of kullervo

[balmy storm]

June

[pearl karma]

I'm wondering which version of Ballas will be giving speech in Wisp Prime's video

[balmy storm]

Wym

[pearl karma]

Orokin? Sentient? Narmer?

[balmy storm]

Orokin.

[pearl karma]

So wisp prime was out before wisp? I thought wisp was around the time when Alad collaborated with sentient Lotus which was pretty recent

[balmy storm]

That’s when she was released, not when she started existing in universe

[pearl karma]

oh man.

wf lore amirite

[balmy storm]

Some primes exist prior to the frame
Some after
Either way, it’ll be Orokin era Ballas speaking about her

He made them all (except Xaku sorta probably and Caliban)

Also Rev prime but he also voiced that trailer so

[pearl karma]

wf lore amirite

imagine having a timeline

[balmy storm]

They do have one lol

It’s complicated sometimes but there is a timeline

[scarlet basalt]

I wonder how thrax managed to stuck a literal Warframe in his world

[balmy storm]

Hopefully we’ll find out through the crimes

I’m guessing they were created via Thrax, Wally or the Void being wacky (like with Rev Prime)
Considering how much Duviri is integrated into their design, specifically Thrax, I’m guessing they have to do with them

[scarlet basalt]

7 crimes ? 7 deadly sins ?

[balmy storm]

They can’t be a manifestation from the storybook tho so we can rule out Drifter being their creator

[balmy storm]

Could be that or could be relating to The Seven and the principles

If we get more info on both Thrax and the Orokin through this then that’s gonna be huge 👀

[scarlet basalt]

I think the seven principles is the way, DE doesn't have the intention to represent luxury in their game I think

[balmy storm]

The principles relate to the Seven too but I don’t remember
I think some people were discussing it in #lore-discussion the other day

Either way it could be a window into them

I’m curious how we’ll learn about all this since no leverian

Very curious about that 7th crime too
How there’s multiple Kullvero’s
And just all of it

I have a feeling that the multiple Kullveros are all the same individual but separated due to their crimes, kinda similar to Op and Drifter
Maybe a form of ultimate punishment is having your possibilities split?

[scarlet basalt]

I think that it could be the best thing if they expand the orokin through kullervo, it could really make things work.
Also that's crazy that there is an entire prison for 7 kullervo lol,

Btw this is an isle connected to duviri ? Not something else
Like it isn't the real lost island that is done

[supple dagger]

The prison warden 1000% looks similar to Ballas

I recognize that sitting position and haircut anywhere lol

[balmy storm]

Ballas self inserted himself into Mother’s book

I wonder if that’ll play into why Kullvero’s there, I really hope they explain things well-

[velvet wing]

I saw the “warden” and instantly got mad, you can’t lie to me, I know who that is

[balmy storm]

Considering what Duviri is the time both the book and Duviri itself was created it doesn’t make sense for a Warframe to really be there without some explanation

Maybe we’ll see other representations of The Seven in future updates 👁️

[supple dagger]

Yea and I’m betting we’ll find more lore about that dungeon island cause it isn’t mentioned anywhere in the Duviri fragments

[balmy storm]

Maybe it and the Warden appeared as a result of events during Operator’s time with Warframes/Ballas?
Maybe we’ll get an answer as to what really caused the oddly mirrored events

I really hope we get answers-

[supple dagger]

Yea they teased us sooo hard. I’m praying that the update comes in like the first week of June

[balmy storm]

I think it will if not the second week

[velvet wing]

They would have told us if they were releasing the update in the next 2 weeks

[balmy storm]

They don’t always do that but okay

[velvet wing]

Didn’t they just have to pause hotfixes for a week for the nightwave cert update?

[scarlet basalt]

Nah don't tell me they will do another nihil with his actually good mechanics
It would be crazy and great
Actually...it would really fit 😮 like it's pretty hard

i said nihil not tuvul, he doesn't exist in gameplay,yet..

[balmy storm]

If we get a Tuvul stand in I hope I can gouge his eyes out
I hate that man.

[scarlet basalt]

Nihil type boss could actually be some kind of boss fight for a future warframe in Duviri maybe ?
Nihil has actually one of the greatest way to include a boss fight, good telegraphed attack, mechanics that work nicely
And it one shot, so it could really make use of the more revive intrinsic

[balmy storm]

If we ever get a Warframe more relating to cephalons (and if cephalons somehow make their way to Duviri) then I could see that

Maybe we’ll see something similar to cephalons?
Idk, they don’t seem that advanced so doubtful

[scarlet basalt]

"Somethiing is touching me,impossible" from Cy
But it's most likely the finger that is touching him, not the void.
Maybe, cephalons could work in duviri without them having the feeling of getting touched by "something"
That could be a good plot point to further advance what is going on with the void and cephalons
I think they said that they don't really see the void ?

[balmy storm]

If a cephalon comes to Duviri I think we’ll be the ones bringing them there

Again, I don’t think the Duvirians are advanced enough to have that tech
Nor would they have purpose for it

[near rune]

You can sort of hear Melica in the caves, so she probably exists in some form. She's certainly on the Zariman, which is in Duviri.

[balmy storm]

That’s different, the Duvirians don’t have cephalons
Melica being present in some way doesn’t change that

Her echoes may also just be because the Zariman is sorta echoed throughout Duviri as a whole

[near rune]

Well yeah, Melica is just a part of the Zariman. The people of Duviri most likely can't create cephalons. But the Zariman provides an avenue for cephalons to exist in Duviri. They just wouldn't be of the Duviri people.

[supple dagger]

Would be cool if we could board the Duvirimen in the future

[balmy storm]

Considering Melica’s mental state I’m not sure they should be there anyway
Though I’m not sure if she’s like that due to long term void exposure or due to loneliness and general degradation through time

Why do we see Zariman pieces scattered across Duviri?
Is it due to the Zariman being consumed and Duviri spilling out from it or could it be due to the Drifter’s trauma leaking through?

[supple dagger]

Probably B. Would make the most sense too

[real niche]

Duviri is Drifter's trauma so not a shocker that bits and pieces crop up in it.

[supple dagger]

I find it cool how Duvirians learned about the Seven Principles and other Orokin related things through all the Duvirimen pieces that are in some of the caves

[pseudo willow]

Oooo I was talking about this in duviri chat just now

It seems like duviri has 2 main aesthetics plus the void corruption in the undercroft

One is from tales of duviri

The other is from remnants of the Zariman that started to colonize the void as if it were the tau system

The lonesome shawzin for example is a Zariman artifact while the courtly is from duviri itself

[wispy jasper]

I agree that it’s probably just the Drifter’s memories shaping much of the initial landscape of duviri, but I would also find it interesting, maybe more so, if their influence over duviri was just sort of the greater part and other lingering tidbits of related minds which have also touched the void seeped in, or something like that.

[zenith jacinth]

The finger that is possibly made out of void

[scarlet basalt]

when a dismembered finger touch you, maybe you should seek something called : seal up that place

[zenith jacinth]

It is already inside a capsule

[scarlet basalt]

seal up the entire void at this rate, throw everything that is related to it inside the void, even the tenno 😭
Like what the hell

[rugged ridge]

Hmm, I just realized that after Veilbreaker we now have a team of Tenno, Grineer, Corpus, Orokin, Solaris, Ostron, and Sentient all working together for the very first time since the Orokin's fall and maybe since any of these factions existed. Makes me happy to see us grow

[zenith jacinth]

Orokin?

[rugged ridge]

Kaelli

[zenith jacinth]

Oh right, the entrati

I don't count them as orokin anymore considering their... situation

[rugged ridge]

Yeah! I feel like they're the closest thing left but they have also clearly moved on from Orokin culture and into the modern world

The infested also makes things very different for them anyway

[zenith jacinth]

Kermerros is objectively the second best entrati

Albrecht is obviously the very best one

Do not look at the first line in my my about me that's definitely not why I say this

[rugged ridge]

Lmao, Albrecht's voice acting is godly especially considering his voice is gone according to the story

I legitimately looked up audiobooks narrated by the same VA

[zenith jacinth]

I've been trying to find interesting audiobooks narrated by his va just to hear it more

[rugged ridge]

Fantastic timing hahaha

[zenith jacinth]

Semi-related fun fact: regor, anyo and the granum token dudes all have the same VA

[rugged ridge]

Oh gosh, what?? Lol, he has range!

It seems like there are always voice actors like that who you would never know without googling. Like the G-Man and Barney from Half-Life

I love how for the most part Warframe usually hires unknown but very good VAs instead of big names

[zenith jacinth]

Yeah, fits the game tbh

I don't see it talked about outside of the community a lot but it's very good

[rugged ridge]

Yeah, 100%!

[rugged ridge]

I find it really interesting that Albrecht talks about things like lightcoil thinkers (lightbulbs/Thomas Edison?) and radiation wars. It makes me wonder if he and the other Orokin had access to real-world, semi-recent history lost to everyone else in the impossibly distant future of the game

[zenith jacinth]

Definitely

Radiation wars, pollution, scientists

Actually, maybe light-coil thinkers are computers?

[rugged ridge]

Ohh, interesting, that could be! I admit I'm not entirely sure what he means by it lol

[zenith jacinth]

@cyan crest, opinion on this?

[cyan crest]

I think they are their first AI
The one that might've caused the Seven principles to ban AI unless it comes from glassed human minds

[zenith jacinth]

That makes sense

[rugged ridge]

Headcanon: Albrecht was seriously inspired by the works of Albert Einstein in-universe. Feels trippy to think about with him being a reference to Einstein as well

[rugged ridge]

Oh hmm that could be!

[cyan crest]

It's interesting cause Einstein really did not like quantum physics while having been one of the most important people to actually concieve of quantum physics
"God doesn't play dice with the universe"
Kinda fits with Albrecht going crazy over his own discovery I guess??

[rugged ridge]

Yeah! Very interesting parallels all around. I have been learning about real-world eternalism theory and quantum physics recently and I feel like DE seriously has an understanding of it when writing that doesn't show up easily in game. Now that I know what to look for I see it everywhere.

I have an example, hang on

Pulling a random graphic from a very high-quality video on this sort of thing, this is showing what 4-dimensional space and time would look like from an outside perspective. They say a line completely unrelated to Warframe here that goes "A supernatural being that could somehow look upon it from the outside would clearly see yesterday, today, and tomorrow happily coexisting." I can't imagine any better visualization of what TMiTW's perspective is like

If anyone wants the link to this LMK, it's impossibly interesting both for understanding the real world and Warframe as well

[obtuse gyro]

Vex go brrrr

[cyan crest]

That's actually so cool
Although I guess it'd be like seeing all possible yesterdays, todays and tomorrows

[balmy storm]

Isn’t that just a timeline of the universe

[rugged ridge]

It is, the animation they have moves from 3D space into this 4D timeline though, it's a little different in motion

[prime lantern]

How vexing

Wait bau already made that joke dammit

[hollow hawk]

rap tap tap

[jagged sable]

Got a hot-take regarding Duviri!Ballas and Prison Island.

If my theory of the Operator's memories affecting Duviri is legit, then that prison Island with Duviri!Ballas as the warden and the Duviri Warframe tells me that island is Duviri Void manifestation of the Sacrifice.

Kullervo is a warframe themed on Betrayal.
Ballas betrayed everyone to the sentients. Betrayed Umbra. (Now I'm wondering what Kullervo's "Crimes" actually were)

[clear coral]

i guess one of them is treason

[icy ore]

Hello, I couldn't watch the devstream, any news one cross save or on the mobile version ?

[river willow]

nope

[clear coral]

THERE'S GONNA BE A WARFRAME MOBILE??

[dreamy saffron]

Yeah, it's in beta rn.

[clear coral]

all the same stuff in warframe?

[warm heart]

It'll basically be the same as the other versions of the game

[fleet veldt]

A crime for each Orokin Executor, each Emperor, of which there were seven to my memory.

As for the mobile version... I am hoping DE output a 'Warframe lite' for lower-spec computers and laptops.

[scarlet basalt]

I wonder what the tennocon 2023 will be.
It could be just a roadmap smilar to old tennocon that has shown multiple things like : Fortuna,duviri,railjack,lich,etc...
But i wonder if then it would be : Naarmer,Void,Parvos granum,Kuva sisters,a potential apocalypse (like everything is hinting that Sol is going to be doomed if we ever fail)

[fleet veldt]

I feel 2023 will be mainly rotating between Void-related weirdness, Narmer, maybe an Eidolon involvement, more Railjack/Necramech matters, a followup on whatever Corrupted Vor and the Neural Sentry are doing (imagining they're like Halo's Sentinels, corralling the Infested).

[fathom nexus]

Vor will be cleaning a great shoe, as always

Railjack and Necramech my beloved

Paused my voidrig leveling at last 5th forma

Still don't know what's better way than spamming iso vault

[scarlet basalt]

would be crazy if : Neural sentry are getting rewired by albretch so he can have some "armies" against MITW
Like he would "fix" everything by just destroying whatever that eldritch god is

[fleet veldt]

Iso Vault or Endless missions (like Veil Proxima Empyrean Survival or just looping bounties back to back in Landscapes) are pretty much it at the moment.

[fathom nexus]

Regular bounties r not so very preferable for "kill everything u encounter" as necramech

Empyrean survival I've tried but for some reason it's very slow compared to max tier iso vault

I even found a camping site with only two tunnel entrances for enemies and my whole squad was doing fine while I was using necramech, but still comparing the time spent, iso vault was much faster

One clear of max tier iso gave 2 levels

[fleet veldt]

True. Farming for those Toroids may be a crude alternative?

And yeah. Annoying levelling discrepancy. Worst case? Visit a Relay and get an XP boost boon.

As for Elfeist...
Given how Wall-Man's head has the same 'cut' as that of the Neural Sentry's Orokin veil masks, the winning move could be simply Veiling the golem the Wall-Man built of itself, and using it as the base for another Void-island or something?

[fathom nexus]

Toroid farming... I'm already done with it in a single day

One day I joined randoms

And looking at their farming method it was obvious my necramech wouldn't have matched their speed to kill stuff

NGL, too lucky

[viscid quarry]

Corpus railjack survival

[fathom nexus]

Tried

It's slower

[viscid quarry]

Not that slow once you get the survival mission going

Just get good teammates a good spot then hose down the swarms until max rank

[prime lantern]

Kuva sisters?

[scarlet basalt]

Like : if they're going to go further for their kuva's grind, more story,units,events,etc...
Like you feel they're really going far to get more kuva and won't let the tenno do their swoppity swoop against their army

[fleet veldt]

There's only one of kle Queens left, and the Liches are more like pirate lords with a doctorate in military and a blessing of Kuva; the Grineer empire only persists due to quantity of Grineer. Which are dwindling because of Steel Merdian, Kavor, Kahl, Narmer, the Corrupted, Corpus, Infested, and worst of all - us.

The only logical direction the Grineer can get is Corrupted Vor enlisting Regor to create special clones that are mentally durable enough to dive into the Void and fight the Angels using some Old War Void-tech or something to that end.

[prime lantern]

The grineer are not loosing meaningful numbers

The entire point of the grineer is that you kill 10 thousand 11 thousand more have been cloned

[zenith jacinth]

In the time it takes to kill one grineer, three more already exist

Roughly

[prime lantern]

See

The grineer will always out number any army in existence Because they follow the logic of "if we throw enough body's at them they'll run out of bullets eventually"

[zenith jacinth]

Ah yes, the area 51 raid logic. "They can't have enough bullets for all of us"

Mesa mains:

[prime lantern]

I mean it's a fool proof logic

They can't have enough bullets for all of us

In a world with finite resources they will eventually run out of munitions

[zenith jacinth]

Unless they draw their ammo from the energy of a presumably infinite void

Or just use one of the many guns with infinite ammo

Or use melee weapons

Or just... punch you.

[prime lantern]

Battery weapons just recharge there battery through unknown means

The battery will eventually break or run out rechargeable energy

Or the weapon will break

[zenith jacinth]

What about organic infinite ammo weapons tho

There's at least 3 of those

[prime lantern]

They'll run out of biomass

[zenith jacinth]

What if they don't rely on biomass

The sentient guns literally just generate ammo

[real niche]

Then it's just a regular gun with extra steps.
Though there is the implication that they feed off the dead bodies to regen but they don't have a "bodies to ammo" gimmick so.

[prime lantern]

The ammo has to come from somewhere

The only way to get around causality is the void and the sentients can't use the void

[balmy storm]

Archon shards are anti-entropic
It could be similar to that

[tepid basin]

Are the Lua conjunction ghosts something that is "post new war"?

well anyway, is there a trick to killing them? It seems like I am doing next to nothing against them

[deft rampart]

you can only kill their ghostly forms after they've shed their bodies with AMP damage, meaning if you do not have operator / drifter form in the origin system, you can't do anything at all.... and if you only have mote amp or sirocco, you can, but don't do a lot of damage.... you really want a proper amp

[tepid basin]

oh yeah, I got the amp thing. Its when they arent ghosts that they seem super tough

oh, sirocco aint good?

im gon go back to my big beam after im done with it, then

[deft rampart]

it is loads better than the mote amp that comes default with the operator, but worse than literally every possible proper amp

[tepid basin]

well then

[thick jolt]

I dont think the lua conjunction ones need amp damage ||pretty sure only the zariman ones need it||

[tepid basin]

still, when the ghosts are corporeal, I dont do much against them. Is there a trick to it?

[deft rampart]

the lower level lua survival on normal star chart, that is something like lvl 30-ish doesn't but both the lvl 100 normal star chart one, and both steel path versions do

[thick jolt]

Not really its the same mechanic as with eximus

[zenith jacinth]

Get better builds

[deft rampart]

get rid of overguard, and armor strip...... OR.... get a more OP gun

[thick jolt]

What gun are you using ?

[tepid basin]

a fully decked corinth prime

[zenith jacinth]

Corrinth is pretty eh. Don't know about the prime tho

[tepid basin]

its firing noise is OP so I like it, but if yall have better guns im all ears

[zenith jacinth]

Cedo

[wild wind]

Depends, do you want moar shotgun or any gun

[tepid basin]

any gun

[wild wind]

Laetum if you're past New War then

[tepid basin]

im looking at the cedo and it seems pretty on par with the corinth prime

[zenith jacinth]

Phantasm

[tepid basin]

Laetum, I dont think I have that one.

oh yeah... those incarnon stuff

[zenith jacinth]

Stats alone can't tell you how good it is if you mean that

[wild wind]

Stats-wise the Cedo and Corinth are fairly similar but the game actually hides their special features

[tepid basin]

oh?

[zenith jacinth]

Alt fire once, everything is now in 1-shot range

[wild wind]

Namely, Cedo's alt fire is a room wrecker that does tons of damage via status effects

[thick jolt]

Cedo has innate +damage per status affecting an enemy
Its secondary fire is also good at applying status

[wild wind]

Yep

[zenith jacinth]

Combine with lavos 4 for an SP-ready nuke

[wild wind]

It's fairly simple to put together as well, you just need to have ranked up with the Entrati family

[tepid basin]

which one are those guys again? I havent played in years. Are they the blue infested folks?

[wild wind]

The main syndicate on Deimos

Yep them, the infested Orokin survivors

[tepid basin]

they have new guns, eh?

[wild wind]

Just the one

But, actually, now that I think about it they also have the Trumna

Which is also spectacular if you like automatic rifles

[tepid basin]

who give them shoota?

[wild wind]

Also the Entrati, but this was one of their original offerings

[tepid basin]

no I mean, the... oh yall were talking about the Cedo all this time

[wild wind]

Yep lol

[tepid basin]

I thought they were giving one of them... huh... incarnum

[wild wind]

Nah. The Laetum is a natural incarnon weapon.

The other weapons getting them are a mix of weapons from early in the game's life, that used to be meta but fell off.

[tepid basin]

oh dang I hope they arent too hard to get. I tend to sell redundant stuff

like this corinth. I sold it yesterday because I had the prime one

[wild wind]

Selling off regular versions for primes or other upgraded versions is fine

[tepid basin]

what about the supra vandal? Is that relevant still?

[wild wind]

It's a bullet hose and those fell off pretty hard, sadly

The incarnon list includes goofy stuff like the Braton and Burston

[tepid basin]

I should probably focus on those. I used to love the burston prime

I figure the incarnon burston would be good

[wild wind]

Though they're about to rotate in like three hours to include the Stalker's weapons

[tepid basin]

ok how do I get one of them incarnon dakka?

[wild wind]

You need to have access to the Steel Path (completed every node on regular Star Chart)

[tepid basin]

oh yeah I think I lost that feature recently when new nodes appeared

[wild wind]

Then go to the Circuit on Duviri and swap to the Steel Path

Yeah you have to unlock SP again

But only once more, after this it and the arbitrations will stay permanently unlocked

[tepid basin]

aw, Duviri, the roguelike thing?

[wild wind]

Yup

[tepid basin]

I hope its different than from the first time I went through it

[wild wind]

But not the open world stuff, the rotating Warframe mode

[tepid basin]

oh, theres an open world version

I didnt know that. Thats good to know actually.

[wild wind]

The story version yeah

That's not where you get incarnons, but where you get the resources for them and the other new stuff

[tepid basin]

man theres just so much stuff that was added since I last played

I feel like im playing on someone else's account

[wild wind]

That's live service games for you, yeah

[tepid basin]

someone had to explain to me how to give blessings

[fleet veldt]

Sirocco is still good. It depends on the Arcanes and Focus and a bunch of other things.

Not optimal for Eidolon hunts though.
// @tepid basin - to give Blessings you must be:
1: MR30+
2: At a Relay with the people you wanna bless.
3: There should be a small terminal if you go into the Relay in a straight line that indicates itself as the 'True Master's Fount'. From there you can grant a blessing once every 24 hours.

[tepid basin]

No I mean, I know how to do that now, but I had someone explain it to me because its been just so long

[fleet veldt]

I get that though.

[tepid basin]

also I just went to do a bounty in zariman and I had to get an "accolade". Whats that?

[fleet veldt]

A Zarium Accolade is basically a 'hey I did the homework!' metal USB stick. Gold, shiny, makes a loud ringing noise when near it. You take it to an active Melica terminal in the Zariman mission you're running and she'll provide a Voidplume for your troubles.

[tepid basin]

Yeah I found plenty of those but then the void contamination went kaboom and we failed

[zenith jacinth]

Plenty? There should only be 2 max iirc

[tepid basin]

I mean the terminals

They were easy to find, The accolades I had no idea where they were

[fleet veldt]

You only need to do one for the bounty to my understanding, the rest usually is just finishing the mission.

Accolades are usually up to a tile away from the terminal. Seldom further unless there's other terminals. Completion of one is all that matters besides the mission.

[zenith jacinth]

The accolades are always near melica terminals

[tepid basin]

thats good to know

I though it was an enemy drop

[fleet veldt]

Do enemies care about Conceptual Embodiment? No.
They deem such data irrelevant. If they knew how we'd be swamped by Voidformed Sentients, and randomly generated Corpus/Grineer armies from alternate timelines that people made up from conjecture while in proximity to the Void.

[tepid basin]

I dunno man, I had no idea what those even were

everything in this game have weird names, I though zarium accolade would be some funny disk like you get from that one weasel aboard corpus ships

[fleet veldt]

Those are Granum Coins. Zarium Accolades resemble those funny little 'I got best XP from school!' trophies, but flatter.

[prime lantern]

Void formed sentients can't exist

[tepid basin]

my point is that they are all named in things that evokes nothing to me

[fleet veldt]

That is why it is a concern. A should-not-exist existing because somebody thought it into existence.

[prime lantern]

A sentient can't utilize conceptual embodiment

In any capacity

Conceptual embodiment requires raw void to come in contact with emotions

[fleet veldt]

I didn't say a Sentient thought of Sentients.

[zenith jacinth]

They could be created without the flaw

Duvidax were created without skin after all

[fleet veldt]

That's pretty normal in the Origin System. Blame the infallable Orokin Empire for this.

[zenith jacinth]

[fleet veldt]

I call them Thrax-Dax as they serve Dominus Thrax.

[zenith jacinth]

I like how duvidax sounds

[fleet veldt]

I think Thrax-Dax is faster to say.

[zenith jacinth]

It isn't

[fleet veldt]

Cue shrug.
Both are cool.

[zenith jacinth]

The space alone makes thrax-dax longer

[prime lantern]

Also nobody else has access to raw void as it usually kills people or drives then insane

[zenith jacinth]

Yeet a child into the void after locking it in a room with (disarmed) sentients, see what comes out

[fleet veldt]

Given what Lotus-hand does when yeet'd into Duviri, I'd bet the Sentients would disregard their kill-orders to turn into a Necramech-like suit the Tenno could step into.

Basically a Sentient (Anthem, game) Javelin that acts like a full-body Amp.

[prime lantern]

No guarantee

[tepid basin]

sweet lord, where are those zarium accolades?

I feel like I have like two minutes to find one before everything just spirals out of control

[zenith jacinth]

Do it over and over and over again until we get a different result

[wild wind]

I suspect the Lotus is a bit more of an exception than anyone thought. Given that she's directly tied to the paradox and all that.

[prime lantern]

And it was just her hand

[zenith jacinth]

I suggest you maybe wait until the bounty rotates out?

[wild wind]

Don't do those bounties solo

[tepid basin]

Im not

seems like im not the only one having trouble finding those

[tepid basin]

Zariman bounties dont give standing?

[minor goblet]

Nop u turn in pinions to gain standing

[tepid basin]

this isnt a great idea

I feel like the proper way to progress is to not do the bounties to get them funny pinions

[rancid ermine]

Bounties are how you get other things

[tepid basin]

Well its weird to me because bounties used to be the way to get standing

[minor goblet]

This is the same with deimos except with tokens

[tepid basin]

frankly I dont remember deimos much

[minor goblet]

Cornbot

[thick jolt]

zariman bounties give i think 2 of the voidplumes you trade for standing
so its really just like deimos bounties with basically indirect standing

[tepid basin]

oh they give it always?

ok, not too bad then. Now I just gotta figure out how to reliably find them weird teacher keys

[thick jolt]

it makes noise
it is also always within two rooms of the console

also appears on loot radar

[tepid basin]

yeah I get that, but so does all the grineers, corpus, space ghosts, other tennos, and that guy talking all the time

its fine, I can find then without too much issues, but not when theres a time constraint

[near rune]

Zariman bounties give a number of Voidplume Quills equal to bounty tier (so 1 Quill at tier 1, and so on). Each Zariman mission (not just bounties) spawns 8 Voidplumes of the lower tiers (Down, Vane, and Crest). Each Zariman mission also has 2 Melica caches, which each award a Quill when given a Zarium Accolade, and also 1 dormant Void Angel, which awards a Pinion when defeated. So there are a lot of Voidplumes in each mission.

Yonta also lets you trade in lesser Voidplumes for greater Voidplumes at her randomised trade-in shop.

[tepid basin]

yeah its just that the bounties also have 8 out of the way pinions hidden. I though for a while that it was the main way to get them pinions. I thought it was backward

[near rune]

The main way to get Pinions is killing the Void Angels. Hunting down the lesser Voidplumes I would say is not really worth your time unless you need the specific ones to rank up. Just do the bounties for Quills, kill the Angels for Pinions, and turn in the odd Zarium Accolade when you find it for more Quills. Just use the Quills and Pinions for Standing.

That being said, I love the Zariman tileset, so I personally don't mind hunting down the Voidplumes. There's a lot of environmental storytelling there.

[tepid basin]

Well I kind of have to, the second rank needs like 10 specific pinions

[near rune]

10 Vanes, which yeah you just gotta hunt down. You can't get Vanes from the Melica caches or anything; you just have to hunt them down, see if Yonta has one for trade, or try to get one from the tier 2 bounty (it's a possible reward there).

[tepid basin]

yeah, in due time, im not worries about it

im just a bit annoyed at how it all work

[night raptor]

Random ramble time

I think it'd be cool if Mods were shown to not be physical modifications to your weapon but canned experiences that you channel through your weapon to use it more effectively.

Then to expand on this you could bind three primed mods to your operator by living through the story of that mod.

Then have those three mods always enabled on your gear but naturalizing a mod like this and also removing it would be extremely expensive as you're basically grafting/permanently remembering less than great memories.

[prime lantern]

We already have lore around mods so it'd need be retconned

[night raptor]

I'm pretty with it about lore, but I don't remember that

[prime lantern]

Riven mods and potentially every other mod is a fragment of cephalon Samodeus

You are either extremely lucky or a thieving wench. You probably don't even appreciate what you have now. My life. My soul. My art. You will need to prove yourself before I reveal the beauty within this work.

[night raptor]

Oh yeah, no wonder I didn't know that.

His lore is partially scrapped and only exists in passing as part of the Riven System.

[prime lantern]

It still exists

[night raptor]

Instead of it being a Retcon it could be an expansion of his lore by making him the artist who reconfigures the raw memories (primed mods) into more usable less problematic ones (Normal mods) but understands that for some memories the pain is as important as the lesson (Corrupted Mods) but he also dabbles in creating unstable and artistic memories for his own reasons (Riven Mods)

[prime lantern]

The only peice of lore I'd discount are funny orbs that provide immortality

Called oro

The rivens arnt unstable

[night raptor]

Because it sounds like something the Orokin would do, toying with memory and such randomly.

I mean they bottle up memories and such in Ayatans and etc.

[prime lantern]

They function perfectly

[night raptor]

They're unstable because they change multiple times over.
Disposition, Rolling, Unveiling etc.

[prime lantern]

"The first thing you must learn is that each piece of my grand creation is malleable and unique. Each piece is both solitary and part of my fractured self. Do you understand? I fear I may have overwhelmed you already. To begin, I'll limit you to a dozen and three, but you'll quickly see the vast array of hidden possibilities, both rapturous and unfavorable. Now, leave me be and return here when you can share what my art has shown you"

[prime lantern]

Samodeus manually changes the dispo out of boredom

"My beautiful creations (which you know as Riven Mods) were beginning to bore me, so I've reconfigured certain parameters to make my art truly shine. Be cautious when engaging in your crude Tenno bartering, as some mods may not be as they once were."[2]

[night raptor]

Still strongly of the opinion that he's basically a leftover that would've been scrapped if they hadn't already made art for him.

[prime lantern]

Futher lore on him is abandoned but his existence is yet to be retconned

Also corrupted mods are corrupted by the voids influence iirc

[night raptor]

Eh, I just want a way for the player to connect their mods to their effective backstory.

I mean my Oberon has like 5 instances of the word rage in his mod/arcane setup.

Because I doubt the Tenno were a monolith.

Even within their schools I think they were a lot of individuals

[tepid basin]

today, I got every parts to start building the hot werewolf gf frame

and her weapons. Is good day

my next target will be sevagoth

[rancid ermine]

I hope the new frame isn't annoying to get

[tepid basin]

which one is the new one?

ive been out of the loop for a few years

[sterile horizon]

Kuvellero

I think that's how how u spell him

[tepid basin]

Kullervo

I didnt know another one was brewing

[rancid ermine]

Coming out soon

Next month i believe

[sterile horizon]

Yes

[supple dagger]

Hi can someone help me with a quest?

[supple dagger]

Which quest is it?

[stray briar]

I hope we get data transfer my xbox broke has 10k worth of iteams

I had like 5k hrs

Only game I played

[icy ore]

Mr 17 on Switch, it died, and now i'm waiting on PC

[fast pewter]

Atm moment walking towards tenshin in the tww, god i think he gonna die when i reach him

[zenith jacinth]

Don't be afraid

[obtuse gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/eyes-gif-25519499

[zenith jacinth]

No, that's "be not afraid"

I was referencing something else

[raw stone]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-erra-sentient-gif-24461426

[nova harness]

I wonder if DE will ever kill off a character permanently because any time someone has died they always come back in some form or other

[zenith jacinth]

Teko

[nova harness]

Wouldn’t be surprised if they magically bring him back to life

[wispy jasper]

Veso is the most canonically dead character in warframe. They held a press conference to say he would stay dead forever.

[zenith jacinth]

It's been 3 story quests now

[amber terrace]

Is this a good place to discuss a weapon releasing in the kullervo update?

[zenith jacinth]

Probably

Yes

[wispy jasper]

kind of a catch-all for upcoming content/stuff to spoilery for other places

[amber terrace]

I(along with probably a bunch of other people) noticed that Kullervo’s shotgun has a similar mechanism to the Alofs Shotgun Reloader

The long and short of the Alofs is that it’s a modification for a single shot breach load shotgun where there’s a tube, a spring, and a cup(oversimplification) on the side of the gun where the tube holds rounds, the cup loads the round into the shotgun, and the spring moves the cup from the tube to the barrel of the shotgun(again, oversimplification)

[zenith jacinth]

You seem to know more about guns than I about swords

[amber terrace]

I’m bad at explaining things and I would love to post a video of the mechanism but I remember something about the moderation bot auto deleting non wiki/Overframe links

From the videos I’ve seen of the Alofs, reloading seems to be a pain so seeing how DE tackles the reload animation to make it fast enough to make the shotgun viable is gonna be interesting

[viscid quarry]

Yes I’m aware what about it? (Other then suggesting it has one round)

Oh wait I see I suppose then that some void magic helps in that considering it is a duviri gun

[amber terrace]

I just find it interesting that DE found what would normally be a really niche loading mechanism

[viscid quarry]

Gotta appreciate that detail

[amber terrace]

The irl Alofs tube holds 3 rounds in the tube +1 in the cup, and theoretically +1 in the chamber of the gun, I’m just pee pee poo poo at explaining complex mechanisms

[viscid quarry]

Oh right

Also there’s gotta be a gimmick to this gun other then cool reload

[amber terrace]

Seeing how DE is gonna handle reloading the gun in a way that doesn’t involve ripping the Alofs mechanism off the side of the gun and slapping a new one on is gonna be interesting to see

[bright kettle]

Why did Rania and Belric love create a void tunnel? From what I understood they aren't even in the void to begin with. It made sense when Drifter caused it to happen cuz void + emotions = crazy stuff but in Belric and Rania's situation , the key component "void" was missing. Both were on planets that are nowhere near to the void

[real niche]

You don't need to be in the Void place, you just need Void energy, which does creep out from time to time, see: Void Fissures

[bright kettle]

Nah man , void fissures are different

Also it wasn't stated anywhere that a void fissure had occured

[real niche]

I never said that.
I said that's an example of the Void just leaking out into the regular solar system

[bright kettle]

Still, doesn't seem like a sufficient answer. We also cannot attribute the void energy to one or the other faction's void tampering since there is no evidence of that

[real niche]

I also never mentioned either of the factions messing with the Void.

[bright kettle]

I know , I threw in a freebie

[real niche]

And there's likely not going to be more elaboration on how the tunnel formed besides "Yeah Void energy happened", so best to just say the energy leaked out like it usually does and go on from there.

[wise snow]

is it bad to say i’m disappointed by new war after coming back to the game after 3 years

i just feel like it could’ve been so much more

[viscid quarry]

Not exactly

There was potential but it is a nice twist that we lost rather then won