spoiler-chat

[tribal hemlock]

at least I have gara and revenant prime, but still using umbra for most of my mission

would be funny if DE call it as ÷0

[humble zinc]

Gara defense, rev idk

[zenith jacinth]

You have the tank frame

[tribal hemlock]

the what?

[humble zinc]

I have nezha for everything

[zenith jacinth]

Revenant is tank

[ruby eagle]

Revenant is the tank frame of all tanks

[tribal hemlock]

it's not o3o

[zenith jacinth]

Using a frame for only one mission type is a waste

[ruby eagle]

Bruh build issue

[tribal hemlock]

other than the laser show, it's kinda crap to me

[zenith jacinth]

Just use mesmer skin

[ruby eagle]

his 2 is literally a better iron skin lol

[tribal hemlock]

wait

can we um, move somewhere else?

[zenith jacinth]

You mean not useless?

[ruby eagle]

And the laser show is the worst part of his kit

[zenith jacinth]

Eh, a rev once carried me to wave 11 sanctuary onslaught by only using that

[humble zinc]

Best*

[zenith jacinth]

My new garuda was max rank after that one

[ruby eagle]

Best visually

[humble zinc]

Best in general, makes everyone go blind

[zenith jacinth]

Using lavos 4 on a large crowd of heavily proc'd enemies is the most satisfying thing in existence

And it burns, burns, burns...

[ruby eagle]

Make sure energy color is all white

[humble zinc]

White or bright pink

[zenith jacinth]

It's a short poof

[humble zinc]

Might make everyone blind for half a second

[zenith jacinth]

Lavos 4 is slow expanding death

[zenith jacinth]

You have his 4 for that

[humble zinc]

Rev 4, vauban 4, bright lights

2 of each and make everyone go blind

[frosty tulip]

I have only popped in to say one thing R.I.P teshin

[fluid igloo]

Idk if this counts as spoilers but how do you get a sister of parvos? I know how to lich but not parvos

[modern tartan]

Lich

[fluid igloo]

I appreciate the info man, thanks!

[warm wing]

Hearing curse Words in Warframe is kinda weird lol

[jagged granite]

is there a way to have cephalon ordis back rather than the little floating body ordis? i aesthetically prefer my little cracked cube

im guessing that’s in settings

[steep delta]

lol

sounds bout right

[steep delta]

i have two younger sisters and one of them was backseat tenno-ing when i was doing a zariman bounty lol

literally telling me what to do and how to do it

considering the warframe i use for Zariman...

deserved

[covert ermine]

Y'know
I sure do hate the deacons

Gotta love being unable to do anything if you get caught

And having to restart over, nd over, and OVRR

[real niche]

Stealth is a vital part of Metal Gear Online for all players

[covert ermine]

There is a reason I don't play stealth games :)

[real niche]

Just break their vision before they're fully locked on, and if you can't then you've just gotta run for a bit.

[covert ermine]

YKNOW I'D LOVE FOR THE ELEVATIR TO ACTUALLY OPEN WHEN I REACH IT

JFC I DO NOT ENJOY THIS

I regret ever starting this quest

I don't want to do this anymore

You can't leave either so I guess I'm done with Warframe forever lol

[real niche]

Wait what are you even doing

Oh wait New War duh

[covert ermine]

Trying to get to the elevator :)))) Even if I reach it it won't open and the deacons lock onto me

It's beEN AN HOUR

I DON'T PLAY STEALTH GAMES FOR A REASON

Forced stealth sequence in a game that isn't about stealth, what joke is this

[real niche]

Wait is this the first part of the sequence in Fortuna?

[covert ermine]

Yep :)

[real niche]

And this is after you went into the vent?

[covert ermine]

Yeah :)

[real niche]

I'd love to see a vid because I did this on release with no issues with the door

[covert ermine]

I'm not opening the game again tonight

[real niche]

In fact this is the first time I've heard of someone having issues with that door specifically

[covert ermine]

The elevator doesn't open
I keep getting spotted no matter what, who thought it was a good idea to put 3 right beside eachother

[real niche]

You just gotta curve around the right side when you're near the elevator

[covert ermine]

I know :)

And I keep getting spotted

[real niche]

https://youtu.be/z7aEErQrCN4?t=5105 🤷‍♂️

[covert ermine]

He does it as easy as that when I've failed it almost 100 times...

Why do I suck so BADLY at videogames

[zenith jacinth]

The game was about space ninjas, it should've had a lot of stealth

[covert ermine]

@real niche Got past the first one finally, but now the second one...

I HATE IT EVEN MORE

[real niche]

Just use the vid I sent as a guide

[covert ermine]

IT SAW ME THROUGH THE WALL

HOW IS THAT FAIR I WAS A FLOOR BELOW IT

I really hate this quest

The fact that no progress gets saved is infuriating

[zenith jacinth]

It does save progress tho

[covert ermine]

I DID IT

I'm shakijg sjsgshshd

[dreamy saffron]

[covert ermine]

Oh boy time for the Archons

I picked the Wolf first. I hate this fight so much.

I sure do love always being on fire! And having a restoration ability that only restores 50 health on a 15 second cooldown!

I'm looking at videos of this and... it has a second phase...

I really regret starting this quest

I want to go back to the normal warframe that I love

[obtuse gyro]

A-are you face checking the archons?

[covert ermine]

No????

I'm trying to keep my distance

[obtuse gyro]

Im trying to see how our experiences can be so incredibly different

[near rune]

The cloaking ability can also help you move out of danger

[covert ermine]

The only enjoyable parts of this quest were the Kahl and Veso segments

[covert ermine]

The difference is that I'm not good at videogames

[obtuse gyro]

Ah that explains it

Good luck, and whatever you do, save nira for last

[covert ermine]

I don't enjoy playing on high difficulty in games

[obtuse gyro]

Boreal is cheeseable with the smoke cloud

[covert ermine]

I don't like stealth, I don't enjoy feeling powerless

[obtuse gyro]

But also TNW enemy levels are at lvl 20 so once youre done with act 2 you should be having a breezy time

[covert ermine]

So in like 5 days

[zenith jacinth]

Amar and nira are the easiest because they don't have weird mechanics protecting them from damage

[covert ermine]

I could have gotten to the second stage of Amar but he healed in the time he was invulnerable for the first time

[zenith jacinth]

Don't go too far away from him to prevent him from doing the jump attack

[obtuse gyro]

I argue boreal was the easiest, I cheesed the doodoo outta him because I smoke bombed him to hell and back, which allowed me to cut his regen moves so short even inaros's 1 affected SP enemies healed for more

[dry dragon]

the archons were pretty easy if using the weapon given in the quest.

I don't remember having much of a struggle using Styanax alongside it.

[zenith jacinth]

First two archons can't really be fought with frames

[covert ermine]

^^^^^^

[covert ermine]

@final wigeon

Amazing AI

[final wigeon]

Hahahaha yeah

its very wonky

but its not THAT bad idk i do these with Kahls weekly missions too

[covert ermine]

...they're in Veilbreaker missions too?

[final wigeon]

yeah lol theyll appear more later

[covert ermine]

:(

[zenith jacinth]

Stealth, don't rush

[steady gate]

runs in front of the stairs that they know a deacon watches over instead of going under and around to avoid its sight

[covert ermine]

Woohoo I beat my first Archon

Snake lady is dead

[covert ermine]

THE LOKI ONE WAS DEAD BUT I COULDN'T FINISH IT BECAUSE IT GAVR ME ELECTRIC PROCS

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

It bugged itself and i could just harvest the shard

Ok

[covert ermine]

UH
The next part of the quest won't play

I selected Drifter and my quest bugged out, I can't continue it

[steady gate]

That…shouldn’t happen. You restart your game and try again since?

[covert ermine]

Yep, and nothinf happened

Why does this happen to me

[steady gate]

…because that says “The Orbiter”. You clearly have something else to do in there before you move on

[covert ermine]

I never got my Drifter waking up, nor did Ordis say anything

I picked Drifter, the game froze for a few seconds, went to the loading screen, then spit me out into the normal game

[steady gate]

So, you have zero waypoints in your ship, anywhere?

[covert ermine]

None whatsoever

Gonna try restarting the game again

Aaaand it didn't work

[steady gate]

okay. Try interacting with the Helminth (the mouth itself), then the arsenal, then lotus’s helm

[covert ermine]

I can't interact with my Helminth. It changes the camera position but nothing happens

My god, it REALLY broke

I cannot interact with it as Drifter

I moved my warframe out of helminth and now drifter can't even go inside

Tried logging in again aaaaand my screen is black

[steady gate]

…not the seat.

[covert ermine]

I tries the wall as well

[steady gate]

okay…so you tried the helmet and arsenal then?

If literally nothing else…do you have the Paracesis equipped

[covert ermine]

I have my paracesis equipped, yes

I turned off Crossplay and tried logging back in to see if it would work, but all it did was result in a black screen

@supple dagger @steady gate I genuinely don't know how to fix this

[steady gate]

I don’t know

[covert ermine]

It would take me a literal day to reinstall

How do I send in a support ticket

I can't figure out how to send a ticket I'm sorry

This has gotten me extremely stressed

Ticket has been sent

I'm gonna refrain on playing in-case i break it even more

[supple dagger]

How’d your quest bug out?

[covert ermine]

I don't know. I picked Drifter, game froze for a few seconds, loaded, then put me into the normal game already in control of my warframe

[covert ermine]

I'm trying anything I can to continue

Funny side effect of this game breaking glitch

Just tried clearing my active quest and reselecting it

Nothing works
I genuinely can't do ANYTHING

I hope my ticket gets answered soon

[supple dagger]

Can you end the quest and start it again or no?

If not then you’ll just have to wait for your ticket to get answered

[covert ermine]

I already tried that

I hope it gets answered soon

[covert quest]

the hell am i doing in the spoiler chat got damn

[steady gate]

good question. we don’t know why you’re here

[covert ermine]

Update: game is still broken and I've received no response

[steady gate]

support has been in the office for checks time two hours.

[covert ermine]

[covert ermine]

Got the cutscene that's supposed to happen after making your choice in my YouTube recommendations

Everything is testing me rn

[covert ermine]

It's been almost 24 hours, with still no response to my ticket. I'm losing faith

[covert ermine]

It has been 24 hours since I sent in my support ticket, and I've received no response. I am unable to play the game due to me being unable to continue.

I apologize for flooding this chat it's just... really frustrating

I want to continue and finish this quest, I'm almost there.

[uneven ruin]

Can you unselect drifter?

[covert ermine]

Nope

[uneven ruin]

Sorry if that seemed obvious but sometimes simple solutions are the best

[covert ermine]

I hadn't thought to try, so I just went and see after you asked. There's no toggle, probably because I'm not done with the quest :,^)

[uneven ruin]

Can you check the codex and maybe it'll say if the quest is missing a step

Happened to a friend once so idk

[covert ermine]

Nope, i'm stuck on The Orbiter

No cutscenes have played ever since I chose Drifter. No rebuilt Paracesis, no markers in my ship.

[uneven ruin]

Check the foundry maybe..?

[covert ermine]

I... already have..?

[uneven ruin]

Again just trying to help 😅

So you can't even use navigation or the codex?

[covert ermine]

If I use Navication to click on The Orbiter, nothing happens. Nothing happens if I try via rhe Codex

[uneven ruin]

I read from earlier that it'd take you a literal day to install the game again

But sometimes the hard choice is the only one

I don't have any help I could possibly give you

Sorry

[vital creek]

yea uninstalling seems like the most likely fix, and its quite possible support will just ask you to do that anyways

[covert ermine]

I'll wait for a response via ticket

Yknow what

I'll try uninstalling and re-installing. RIP my internet

[shut wasp]

Is it weird that I enjoyed the first part of TNW immensely? I feel like the Railjack sequence in particular really makes it feel like a war, as opposed to drifter.

[vital creek]

the rest of it was less of a war and more of a rebellion tbf

[past kiln]

i enjoyed act 1 the least

[supple dagger]

The rj part was soooo fun. I wish I could experience TNW again cause it was amazing IMO. Act 2 was my favorite because seeing Ballas take over the entire system was shocking since I didn’t see that coming at all lol

[wicked iron]

The quest is replayable. 🙂

[supple dagger]

Ik that but I meant like playing it without knowing what happens

I’ve replayed the quest like 3 times, but it isn’t as fun anymore cause I already know everything that happens

[covert ermine]

Wanna know what's funny

I got a reply IMMEDIATELY after uninstalling

I have to wait 12 hours for my game to re-install.

[supple dagger]

What did they say?

[covert ermine]

Power cycle my console (turn it off and unplug for 2 minutes), verify my game files via lb+rb+y, then delete my saved data

Gotta wait until my game installs again :^)

24% woohoo...

[steep delta]

Oof

[frail nymph]

12 hours?!

[white thistle]

Oh wow 12 hours 😨 On PC it takes around a hour and half at least for me

Hope it'll get fixed!

[spark plover]

morning

[covert ermine]

My internet is dog

[covert ermine]

LET'S GOOOO

IT'S FIXED

[hollow radish]

Nope. I enjoyed it, it just felt weird that there was no actual time devoted to uniting the grineer and corpus and it just happened.

Especially when previously we didn't see a, "Drop everything and band together for survival" level of pragmatism from the grineer during Scarlet Spear.

[vital creek]

they weren't really united though, it was just multiple individual attacks against sentients

[hollow radish]

During the end of Act 1 you had support from both factions.

Erra: "How tediously human. A slapdash alliance making a feeble last stand. IF you all crave death in a final flash of glory - I am more than happy to oblige."

[vital creek]

it really wasn't an official alliance though

[hollow radish]

The point remains, the fact that you weren't fighting each other seemed odd given Scarlet Spear. It implied to me that something went on in the background.

[vital creek]

corpus were literally just doing self defense and we show up right when they lose, grineer were doing the same thing

[hollow radish]

Like I said though, the fact that we weren't fighting each other was weird given Ruk's behavior during Scarlet Spear.

Parvos I would count on being practical enough to not need any real encouragement.

The queens or lower ranking grineer, probably not.

[graceful zodiac]

It was definitely a last stand kind of alliance, not just we happened to be on the same area

[hollow radish]

^

Of course another option is that it was the syndicates, but given the lack of mention and the previous segments devoted to the main human enemy factions I'd assume it was them.

It seemed half finished, but it did also have fewer fridge logic flaws than the premise we saw at first.

"Why would the Tenno be able to put up a fight despite not being backed by the Orokin at the height of their power?" would have been a question for sure from what we could tell of the previous premise.

[graceful zodiac]

I mean, neither side was at Old War power. Hunhow being out of play is a massive force division

[wicked iron]

Hunhow choosing to stay out of the fight cuz he hated Ballas*. All he did was give us one weapon, and boom. Suddenly all Ballas and Erra worked for crumbles. XD I wonder what would have happened if he went up and fought himself against Ballas and Erra, if we managed all that just from a weapon he handed us.

[frail nymph]

Well, that's cause it's supposed to not be a War anymore during Drifter segment

Literally there is no war ongoing in that part, why would it feel like a war

The war is back now only because the Tenno are back and Corpus/Grineer started breaking veils...

Aka only because Drifter's segment ended

[covert ermine]

I just noticed thar Fortuna is permanently changed now. I miss the old lighting

[warm dew]

Still nothing concrete about cross save and what we can do between platforms, is this true?

The other day i saw a supposed leak of what could be done but it contradicts itself in every point they mention so i discarded it in a case of a fake new

[lament axle]

honestly i'm ok with it
the real problem is that the cinematic npc is no more

[obtuse gyro]

DE has always been very open about what theyre doing, if there is a leak that contradicts itself, its very likely fake

[steep delta]

Yes indeed

[covert ermine]

You can use the Drifter camp as your home base? Hell yeah

I love this area, it's unironically beautiful

[supple dagger]

Yep

[balmy storm]

what would make it ironically beautiful

[covert ermine]

Worded it wrong, I should I heave said unironically the best looking area in the game

[zenith jacinth]

Maybe some grineer moving in would

[covert ermine]

I wish ordis would follow you around in the camp, seeing as he uses the ribot in transmissions now

[zenith jacinth]

The owldis prime was destroyed

[balmy storm]

I don’t see how that stops him from flying around with us, just get another new body

[zenith jacinth]

Pay 100 plat and he can

[vital creek]

i'm surprised they didn't add him as an purchasable orbiter thing yet ngl

[balmy storm]

I would tho smh

It’d be a better roomba since he’d follow you and talk

[zenith jacinth]

Hey, the corpus roombas talk too

In beeps and boops

[covert ermine]

I do have Ordis skin

Da Drifter

[white thistle]

I love the Ordis skin so much, been my main!

[covert ermine]

Angels of the Zariman certainly was a quest

[balmy storm]

90% tutorial
10% quest

[steady gate]

90% tutorial and some people still don’t understand the new mission types

[frail nymph]

It was a social hub intro quest like the open world ones, therefore being 90% tutorial

[torpid lantern]

I bought Ordis skin and never looked back. I was begging for one for years! But I do want to see him actually show up in quests like he did in TNW, following us around and offering commentary.
It makes me so sad he only seems to get pulled out as a temp replacement for the Lotus. As one of the main characters, he deserves more screen time.

[balmy storm]

I want to strap a gun to his head and watch him fight with us

[white thistle]

Agreed as for physical appearance he certainly need more screen time, however, visually he have enough xd we're getting a lot of guidance and conversations during quests, TNW was actually a masterpiece

[torpid lantern]

He's had a bigger role in quests when Lotus was afk but now that she's back, he's gone quiet again... it makes me sad because I don't want him to get forgotten. We rarely see him on the day to day either because he never talks on missions or anywhere else except the orbiter.

[torpid lantern]

The only mission i recall is the Alad gas city tileset which came out when Natah/Lotus was awol. So that's just reinforcing why I'm worried he'll get forgotten most of the time

[near rune]

Ordis gives mission control for Sabotage and Disruption missions on the new Gas City, which lore-wise came out while Lotus was missing. However, Disruption missions are currently bugged, and Gas City Disruption missions are now handled by Little Duck like all the other Disruption missions.

[torpid lantern]

Yep

[covert ermine]

First Zariman mission ever had the host disconnect and no one could connect to the new host

Absolutely amazing

[covert ermine]

THE HOST EXTRACTED USONG THE ELEVATOR BEFORE THE REST OF US AND I LOST EVERYTHING IN MY MOST RECENT BOUNTY

ARE YOU KIDDING ME??????

MY GAME FROZE

REALLY DE?

WHY DOES THIS ALWAYS HAPPEN TO ME

[supple dagger]

Rip

[tepid dagger]

Hey quick question y'all, has anyone figured out the deal with TMITW and what he's saying?

Cuz from what I can tell, he's talking about Requiem Mods.

I've whittled down the audio a bit.
To me, it sounds like
Ris Vome ...?... Xata Vome ...?... Lohk

Here's what I've got. I'd love to hear y'all sound off.

Oop, that's already been covered on the Requiem Mods page. Dang.

So do we have that figured out? What he's saying?

As I discovered the page for Requiem Mods, that much is already known. As I said.

[zenith jacinth]

Oull ris xata vome khra lohk

[jagged sable]

Oull Ris Xata Vome Maba Lohk.
That's what I'm hearing

It's very likely that the requiem words we know of aren't the only requiem words.

[graceful zodiac]

No, last we heard we were close by the person who did the actual audio

[tepid dagger]

That was my guess as well. But based on AtsiaZ's post, I'd assume we have all the terms we need.

[lapis ocean]

So I wasn’t sure which channel this should ultimately go under, but it’s definitely relevant to spoiler talk. . .

I’m trying to find some lore and gameplay experts in a number of different Warframe channels to help with a community project. Over the next few weeks/months (depending how long it takes for the Duviri Paradox to launch) I’m putting together an updated Iceberg chart for Warframe! I already have a lot of entries, but if you or someone you know has any obscure bits of info about Warframe (wether it’s a special technique, glitches, outdated into, community history, rumors, urban legends, something creepy, etc., etc.) feel free to either reply to me, or I can give you editing permission on the Google Doc I’ve started.

I’ll be giving full credit for any and all contributions - so please be sure to label any suggestions you make!

[obtuse gyro]

The grineer who was used as a template for grineer soldiers was selected because he killed a sentient with a shovel

[lapis ocean]

Wait, that’s amazing.

[tepid dagger]

Oh, yeah, there's stuff in the deeper Cephalon Simaris codex right?

Like, if you do his larger scanning projects.

[vital creek]

yea if they weren't cloned so much they would actually have very high potential

[graceful zodiac]

Synthesis Imprints and fragments are good places for obscure bit of things

[tepid dagger]

And for gameplay, the tips section of the frame's abilities can tell you interactions you'd otherwise not know.

[obtuse gyro]

The Prototype Sentient was a starfish looking thing

[tepid dagger]

Like how Frost can dissipate his Snowglobes with his 1.

[lapis ocean]

Yeah the ability tips have some pretty interesting obscure info that nobody bothers to read (unfortunately)

[lapis ocean]

With those two entries, I’m now up to 173 (you’ll be credited when this thing goes live)

[tepid dagger]

I mean, if spoilers are fair game, throw in the bit about the weird Requiem line the Man in the Wall says.

Since that has, reportedly, still not been accurately transcribed as of Tennocon 2022.

Oh, you have the DE credits glyph locations, right?

[lapis ocean]

That’s another great point - I forgot that it hasn’t been decoded yet

[lapis ocean]

I do, yep

[obtuse gyro]

which is funny because we have a whole DE team who told us the words

[tepid dagger]

I know there's that one Youtube series of obscure Warframe information, but I dunno how much crossover there is

We know all the words, but we can't figure out what he's saying lol

[obtuse gyro]

like in the AoTZ ARG Oull Ris Xata Vome Khra Lohk appeared

[lapis ocean]

I’m trying not to depend on those too much, as any info in popular videos heavily impacts the obscurity tiers

[tepid dagger]

That's true as well

[obtuse gyro]

More obscure lore, thats not really lore lore but it happened anyway: weendaswebegan.com

[tepid dagger]

Who the heck is Weendas Webegan :^)

[lapis ocean]

I’m guessing that was either an update site or one of those early ARG’s? It looks like the url is inactive and links back to the Warframe home page

Also I’m gonna head out for now - I’ll check back in later in case more gets added (or if I get PM’s or something)

[obtuse gyro]

nope, it was just last year, take a closer look at the page, you should immediately notice something is wrong

or at least when the page was live

[lapis ocean]

Yeah I’m looking rn and not seeing any huge difference? I’ll go look it up elsewhere

[obtuse gyro]

looks like this

[lapis ocean]

Yep, that’s a bit different

Loki was a starter frame and PC and PS4 were the only two consoles - are we sure this was just last year?

[obtuse gyro]

I am extremely sure this was just last year

source: I was there

exploring the page, as well as inspecting the sources yielded clues to further the ARG

[frail nymph]

Not necessarily. AoZ ARG confirmed the order and that was before Tennocon.

Erich only mentioned listening to a couple pitch shift videos on YouTube before saying nobody has it.

[glossy lagoon]

I didn’t know u can add attachments to drifter🌝

Man looks like a ninja fr now

[white thistle]

That actually look sick! Wow

[tepid dagger]

Ahh. Did the series actually mean anything to the Angels of Zariman ARG, or is there some further use?

[obtuse gyro]

Iirc it was a password that we used to decode something, but I remember when we entered the website and found it right there in the source

[tepid dagger]

I was browsing the AoZ ARG page on the wiki. What a list.

[obtuse gyro]

I wish I made a significant contribution to end up in there

[tepid dagger]

ARGs are wild, don't feel bad.

[glossy lagoon]

😊 thx

After finding out I went straight to customizing

[graceful zodiac]

It's not just the Panel, it's Erich responsible to someone saying their attempt was closer to what he actually said

[frail nymph]

Doesn't mean he was saying it's closer than ORXVKL.

He just said "getting closer" to someone suggesting something like Oull Ris <something> lok waba dook

He might not have known about the ORXVKL guess even while tweeting that

#lore-discussion message

[obtuse gyro]

Hey I replied to that tweet

never bothered to check if I got a reply

[frail nymph]

He hasn't replied to anyone in that thread

[gaunt lark]

Does lotus die after tnw? 🗿

[kindred briar]

right after Batman walks in

[gaunt lark]

I thought she would be dead 🗿

Thats nice then

[molten crystal]

The real death was the lore we made along the way

[supple dagger]

I liked the part when Lotus said “its Lotusing time” and killed Ballas

[modern yoke]

Can someone explain the focus system to me?

I haven't played past the part where lotus leaves us

And I'm not really sure which focus to stick with

[zenith jacinth]

No needs to stick with any focus

You can unlock 100% of all of them later

[lament axle]

yeah, you can choose the one that fits your playstyle better, and then get the waybounds from the others

for example
if you feel like a want some extra dmg, i would advise using madurai, since there is a lot of dmg boost from there

[glossy lagoon]

I’m glad I finished my way bounds

Feels like an infinity gauntlet when collecting all classes

[gaunt lark]

I could read tho 🗿

[frail nymph]

I forgot about a certain choice

[frail nymph]

Technically depends on a choice you make... being pedantic

[gaunt lark]

So what are the ends for each?

[frail nymph]

Play the quest and find out

[gaunt lark]

I couldnt find that

Just say it mate

[frail nymph]

All I'm gonna say is choose whatever you want to choose

[gaunt lark]

Holy fu

All this "enjoy the experience" thing prolly brainwashes ppl, aint no way

[frail nymph]

Nah, it's just that knowing the ending removes 99% of interest and tension in any story

[gaunt lark]

I have 0 interest on playin it nonetheless
Just put spoiler tag or w/e
Im literally on spoiler chat

My interest would be her not dying

[frail nymph]

Well then gl being able to play the new content I guess. Just watch a youtube video about it only if you really wanna know even if you're not gonna play. One of those that removes everything except dialogue and cutscenes from the quest

[wicked iron]

Not going to be doing The New War? 😮 Well, in response to your interest... The answer is yes and no to if she does lol

[gaunt lark]

Not anytime soon
Takes a lot of time and i got grind to do before

[frail nymph]

I would recommend not farming (even slightly) unnecessary things... The whole games takes under 50 hours from start to end of AoZ that way

[gaunt lark]

But i wanna get strong and hunt eidolon with ease
Also beat level 9999 enemies when i have simulacrum available

[supple dagger]

Then just don’t worry about TNW until you’ve reached that point. It’s not like the game will force you to play it. You can always come back to it once you want to

[stuck ruin]

What colour is Erra? I can’t find anything well lit enough to tell. Here’s what I have:

It doesn’t seem right.

[wild copper]

He's always looked metallic black/grey to me

[stuck ruin]

True, but I can’t tell how much of that is lighting.

[kindred briar]

a sort of light tan brown

[wild copper]

This maybe

[stuck ruin]

Hmm, so should I replace the light areas with that colour and add some darker areas to the body?

[kindred briar]

idk, whatever looks right

[stuck ruin]

Most sentients have that red so I’ll stick with that I think. But I’ll definitely darken the face, shoulders and hips. Thanks guys!

[frail nymph]

The difference between doing New War before and after getting strong, in regards to the time spent in getting strong, is 5-10%.

If you do New War first, it will take you 5% longer than otherwise, to get strong.

Meanwhile if you try to get strong before New War, you will have to wait 1000 to 2000% longer before doing New War. (Also, being strong during New War does not help for the quest)

[gaunt lark]

Y

[frail nymph]

Basically it takes 500 to 1000 hours to become OP.

But if you do New War before that, the total is 550 or 1050.

If you do New War first it's done in 50 hours. Vs waiting for 500 to 1000 hours

[kindred briar]

to be fair TNW also gives you a weapon shortcut into content you would need OP gear for

[gaunt lark]

From my point of view ure just moving the x factor around

[gaunt lark]

What shortcut?

[kindred briar]

that would be a spoiler

[gaunt lark]

Were in spoiler chat

[frail nymph]

Yes, but then divide it by the time.

50 hours is a 5% increase from 1000 hours while 1000 hours is a 2000% increase from 50 hours.

Would you rather wait 5% longer to be able to do New War first or would you rather wait 2000% longer to be able to get unnecessarily strong first?

[gaunt lark]

So, if yall wanna just say a bunch of nothin around, at least dont ping me

[frail nymph]

mantis didn't ping you until you pinged him -_-

[frail nymph]

In other words it's gonna take forever to get strong anyway, doesn't hurt to wait a tiny bit more.

Or in even simpler words there's a difference between giving 1000$ to a homeless person and a millionaire, it's not just moving the x factor around.

[steep delta]

Anyone know what Drifter would do if the Operator punched them hard out of rage

We've obviously seen the Drifter get mad before

[stuck ruin]

The operator is an inter-dimensional demigod. I reckon that drifter would melt. Literally.

[steep delta]

Considering eternalism though and both of them having their Void abilities at present I think they'd get into a Void power based standoff

Western style

[stuck ruin]

Good point. But I would say Operator still has the edge because they are much, much more experienced at the time of the new war.

[steep delta]

But Drifter has Sirocco Operator has what, a Void launcher thing lol

[stuck ruin]

Also fair. But sirocco is definitely one of the worst amps. It’s not bad, but it was made to be a step up from the mote amp before getting an actual amp.

[steep delta]

Yep

[stuck ruin]

So let’s say we take both characters at the height of their power. For the operator, that’s just before the new war. For drifter, that’s either with nataruk (but no void powers), or with void powers (but no experience). Either way, I think operator comes out on top.

[vital creek]

if we ignore actual gameplay and consider lore wise, i think drifter would win since they have void powers now (though it is fair to say op would be more skilled here), as well as high experience with wielding weapons

[graceful zodiac]

Nothing, cause it would just be a punch.

This is nothing to do with powers or eternalism, it'd just be a kid punching an adult

[frail nymph]

Operator is kinda strong tho but still even if it hurt Drifter would think it's cute or funny

[modern yoke]

What if I wanna focus on a more mage type operator? (Or a long shot but what about doing like a melee range hybrid build for operators?

[vital creek]

7th prism is a good close range weapon, unairu lets operator get stupid amounts of damage, you could probably get a scaffold for long range

[vital pewter]

What do you think

Thered be a missing child case

They would never find your operators body

[steep delta]

Oof

[modern yoke]

I gotta sleep soon mind if I dm you about the operator system

[vital creek]

sure, what about it?

[bronze temple]

What next prime frame for prime resurgence

Vanban and atlas?

[humble zinc]

Stals? New frame?

[tepid dagger]

Oh man, I'd love to get a Vauban Prime.

Could finally start using these dang shards.

[maiden hound]

im conflicted on if i should choose ||natah|| ||Lotus|| or ||Margulis|| in the ||new war||

[zenith jacinth]

Choose whichever name you like most

[maiden hound]

yeah thats why im conflicted. what do i want to hear for the rest of the game lol

[zenith jacinth]

Voice doesn't change with the skin?

Idk, I chose lotus and don't like the other skins

But I assumed the voice changes with the skin

[white thistle]

Imo Marg like he said, is human and warm feels very comfortable to pick, you can also buy other skins for platinum of the other forms upon picking one already

[maiden hound]

After New War are there anymore SOLO only?

trying to plan out what me and my boys are gunna do next

[zenith jacinth]

All story quests after tsd are solo iirc

[bold mango]

I chose|| Natah||

[covert ermine]

Except Call of the Tempestarii, for some reason

[zenith jacinth]

Really? That one's not solo?

[glossy lagoon]

Is there a channel for fashion operator/drifter?

[fleet veldt]

#fashion-frame

[radiant cosmos]

When is the devstream coming

[frail nymph]

If it was this coming week it would probably have been announced, so I'm guessing end of the month

[white thistle]

Have anyone else seen it? every time i cross 10 Orphix on veil Natah shows up

[obtuse gyro]

And?

This is dialogue from the Orphix Venom event, now turned into orphix

[white thistle]

I feel like there's a secret message hidden in the quotes

Also i wasn't really on the Orphix Venom event so i guess i was never seeing it

[zenith jacinth]

There's a secret message in which Natah says "I AM DYING"
4th result when searching "hidden message" with discord's search function. 3rd if not counting your message and this one.

[vital creek]

yep this was foreshadowing for TNW

[white thistle]

Ohhh wow you're actually right, matches with the Screenshots i took, each digit represents the letter's location

[fluid igloo]

So I recently finished all the main story quests, I was curious if theres a point where you get to play as Teshin and the Corpus again like with Kahl

[zenith jacinth]

Both are dead

[thick jolt]

Dunno about teshin with what we have seen of duviri paradox but vedo was confirmed dead by rebbeca

[zenith jacinth]

Teshin got crunched and veko blew up

[fluid igloo]

Oh yeah I forgot about the ending from Vedos mission

F

[zenith jacinth]

I've actually forgotten his real name at this point

Was it veso?

That sounds right

[fluid igloo]

Not the first time his name has been forgotten

[zenith jacinth]

That was the joke, but now I actually just can't remember

[fluid igloo]

hahaha

[vital creek]

Veso is dead, and I highly doubt Teshin is returning in any significant capacity

[fluid igloo]

Teshin was in the duviri trailer tho

[zenith jacinth]

Duviri doesn't matter yet and it's very possible that duveshin is not our teshin

[fluid igloo]

Thats a good point

[vital creek]

even if he is he didn't really have any super important role, so I doubt he'll return as playable

[white thistle]

I think Teshin was outside the Paradox during Duviri so i am not sure, could be the Nikanas in the Dormizone pointing on something

[zenith jacinth]

He was still very much within duviri, and "the duviri paradox" will just be the update and, probably, quest name, the location is called "planes of duviri" (iirc)

Yes, planes of duviri

[supple dagger]

Hello

[obtuse gyro]

hello?

[narrow cape]

ok Veso is dead... I want to play with John Prodman pls

[whole prawn]

What would be the next prime frame you think guys?

[supple dagger]

Wisp

[whole prawn]

I deeply hope so

Fulmin prime and a good frame i can’t wait

[deep rivet]

guys I got my drifter armor and syandana while using the normal operator lmao

[simple moss]

Hildryn is next, then Wisp if they're following releases.

[wild wind]

LOL Rice gonna throw hands if they skip Hildryn

or at least be dramatically upset, whichever's funnier

[simple moss]

How else will I support y'all without Shield Mommy Prime????

[wild wind]

ahahahaha

[zenith jacinth]

I'm only gonna be interested in getting a prime when lavos prime happens

[supple dagger]

Oh I thought it was Wisp ,Hildryn, Gauss, and then Grendal

[zenith jacinth]

(I mean, I already have a few, but only because I really like gold)

[supple dagger]

DE is gonna make so much money when Wisp’s Prime access comes out smh

[simple moss]

Hildryn was before Wisp. You tend to keep track of when your favourite warframe is slated to get a prime. lol

[zenith jacinth]

Uh. Yes. Definitely. I absolutely 100% know roughly when lavos prime will happen

[simple moss]

I also want Xaku Prime, but that's next year iirc.

Hildy Prime Access is probably gonna be a present to myself if they're following the release order. I will not elaborate why.

[narrow cape]

and the next umbra?

[zenith jacinth]

Never

[narrow cape]

😮

[simple moss]

Umbra was a one time thing.

[narrow cape]

for the orokin it worked once, why not twice or more attemps for that ''system'' 😅

for us, it was a tragedy, but for them, i think it was just another way to create warframes

[steady gate]

Umbra was a specialized punishment

[narrow cape]

if that is the point, maybe another specialized punishments?

[wild wind]

Ballas only hated one person that much

If it stopped being personal he'd have just started shoving them into voidgates without protective gear

Or feeding them to infested

[narrow cape]

oh, now i think i losed some things in the sacrifice LUL thanks for the clarification ❤️

[simple moss]

Yeah, that's hyper cruel. No.

[narrow cape]

it could work

[simple moss]

They've also told us Umbra is a one time thing.

[fluid igloo]

Pretty sure the game is lowkey making fun of me because ive never seen this come up until ive gotten close to finishing the starchart

[simple moss]

People keep asking and that's been their answer ever since. Prime frames are enough.

Which one?

...

You do know they have in very recent memory said no, right?

[simple moss]

Which means them saying it around Umbra's release is pretty irrelevant then.

[gaunt lark]

Do i need to have a necromech before doing tnw or they give us one?

[vital creek]

need one, though you don't need it leveled or anything

[gaunt lark]

And whats paracesis?

[vital creek]

type of sword

you get a free one for the relevant section of the quest, don't get to keep it though

[gaunt lark]

K

[minor goblet]

If i still have the bp can i still craft it or...

Noice

[wild wind]

Good sword too, perhaps the third best greatsword

[supple dagger]

Hello

sigma boy

[wild wind]

[supple dagger]

Btw

I new in game so I want the Shana sword but it’s hard to bring it and the minerals too

It’s on another place in space

[zenith jacinth]

Get a platform role from #757632548842111086 and ask in your platform's recruit chat for help getting there

And if you're new I suggest you don't go here or to lore discussion

[whole prawn]

A very good sword resets resistances on sentients after you put in enough forma

[austere cypress]

Who is this guy next to Teshin?

[jade summit]

That's batman

[remote stirrup]

Hey, is there a way to get the 500m slide in POE after the new way changes? I can't seem to figure it out. All of the cheeky ways to circumvent it (teleporting, sliding in the air) have seemingly been patched. Any ideas?

[wicked iron]

Not sure. Maybe the hill to the east that goes into the ocean? I'll try to remember to do some testing in a couple places when I get home.

[remote stirrup]

Thanks, I'll give that a try. I'm not sure its possible anymore after the terrain changes, there is just too much you get caught on.

Got it to work (different area - went from the east mountain), I managed to use a volt speed boost in archwing to get enough speed to go over a large amount of the difficult terrain.

Note - infested mobility and other parkour speed buffs seemingly don't transfer to/from archwing so hence why my attempts with Nezha were not working.

[lost tapir]

Tbh I want drifter to get the ability to use the deluxe pistol skins

Solely for the ability to give them the regular gun skins

[gaunt lark]

1. check if thats not accumulative
2. maybe jump out of a archwing as nezha, using less friction mods (and other mob ones)

[fluid igloo]

Not sure if this counts as a spoiler but ill put my question here anyway, whats the "best" mod you can get from orokin vaults?

Lol I went into Horend to find a vault and the very first room I go into has it

[steady gate]

vile precision would like to say hello

[remote stirrup]

Just replying to let you know what works.

The achievement is not accumulative. Nezha seemingly cannot work without outside help. Parkour speed mods/abilities generally don't affect your sliding, they just improve you speed until you slide which means your slide gets more speed as a side effect. POE (post new war) just has too many bumps and crevices to allow a frame like Nezha keep sliding without hitting a stone or a lip and stopping the slide.

There were ways to cheese this in the past; if you teleported while sliding the distance would count, it also used to count time spent falling before you initially hit the ground (you could cut the distance in half by just flying up in Archwing and using melee and slide in mid-air). These have since been patched.

The current/consistent way to complete the challenge is build up a ton of speed and then let it catapult you down a long slope. The best way to do this is run a strength/duration volt and use the speed boost + the archwing to give you enough speed so that your slide bounces you over most of the major obstacles. Other mobility options like infested mobility can work, they just don't transfer to/from archwing so it's harder to build up the required speed.

Sorry for the essay, just want to set this straight for anyone else who may be stuck on this.

[gaunt lark]

Not even that mod that gives less friction? F

[remote stirrup]

Nope, it makes you slide more, but it doesn't count as you 'sliding'. It does improve your slide, just not enough.

[fluid igloo]

got these 3 so far but im wondering how many there are

[remote stirrup]

Gold mods in general?

[fluid igloo]

corrupted

like orokin vault mods

[remote stirrup]

Gotcha, let me check

18 total: 5 warframe, 5 rifle, 5 shotgun, 1 sniper, 5 pistol, 2 melee

You should aim for all of the warframe ones (you have 2 of these already) as they see constant use and are worth some plat if you have duplicates.

The weapon ones have less overall uses but have some niche uses. The critical ones are specifically good here and are also worth getting. (Critical Delay - Rifle, Creeping Bullseye - Pistol)

[fluid igloo]

damn ty for checking looks like I only need to get 2 more warframe ones and im good 😄

gimme a name for the boy

[steady gate]

loaf

[steady gate]

I’ll be honest I don’t see what’s bugged

They…didn’t detect you through a wall.

You can clearly hear the angered Deacon sound before you enter the door

As for the max distance thing; they’re slow to act if they detect you that far. You had a good 4 seconds to move and you stood still.

[real niche]

And this dude didn't get spotted from that one because...?

[steady gate]

Ooo, I can answer! Because he used cover and didn’t have the stair deacon angered and mobile

[real niche]

The bug where? He wasn't staring down at the stair decon like you were.

At least in the first case, no clue about the second

[steady gate]

The one that got you in this doesn’t move unless you get spotted and hide for a bit.

[real niche]

He deadass doesn't move unless you're already seen by them so just... don't get spotted by that one.

You literally posted a video showing how to do it I don't get the bugs you're talking about.

If you copied what they did then you get the same result, go stand next to the stairs like they did and show me if you get caught there

Take the path that they did.

Not in the vids that you've posted.

[vital creek]

both of those videos show it working as intended?

they ran in front of the deacon

[steady gate]

Once again, you hear the angered sounds before there’s a wall between them and the deacon

[vital creek]

the throw itself was weird in fairness for that video, but detection was fair

[real niche]

The stair decon is looking down, so they're going to have more range than the others

They're rounding the stairs too tight

[vital creek]

I don't remember them having quite that much range tbf, but I think I also would've been much more careful then those clips

doubt its a bug, maybe they just made it harder, LoS seems to be working fine, just longer

[real niche]

cough

I'm half tempted to just go back into the quest at this point

I'm not fond of being stuck in a quest I don't care about for 6 hours

[vital creek]

too bad the quest doesn't let you pick where to start from on replays

yea i'm guessing they tweaked LoS mechanics for enemies in general and it ended up making this harder, still wouldn't say bug is the right word for it

[real niche]

For the first time I get it since yeah there's some changes that happen on a Star Chart scale, but replays?

[vital creek]

locking you in makes sense from a lore perspective, though i would've liked if they had a checkpoint system for replays

[real niche]

But still, I'd like a vid of you doing the same path that the dude in this video did, because it looks like the dude in the background when you're getting veiled in your second vid is probably what got you

[vital creek]

yea i do think you're right that detection range is higher, though i'm not convinced its a bug or them seeing you through walls

[real niche]

Told ya so /j

[vital creek]

?

[real niche]

No?

[vital creek]

the quest? you can for fun

[real niche]

You've got Veilbreaker with some Deacons but that's it.

[vital creek]

nope

veilbreaker has some deacons but you could just not do those missions

[real niche]

I still don't get the hubbub about this part of the quest.

[vital creek]

stealth for whatever reason was never really a part of gameplay until suddenly it is

it being a sudden change was probably a huge factor

[steady gate]

The game does try to make people stealth (rescue and spy come to mind) but most people just kill stuff so fast

[vital creek]

yea this is the first instance its anything more than a suggestion

no

in terms of stealth left in the quest ||I think you finished the last stealth bit unless i'm seriously mistaken||

i highly doubt i am

if there was it wasn't memorable

[past kiln]

you actually didn't but the next stealth section is much, much easier

[vital creek]

hmmm does ||cetus have a tiny one then?||

[near rune]

Kind of but it's way easier at that point.

[vital creek]

pffft

kid just no clipped into the backrooms

[dry dragon]

anyone else think that we might get melee weapon options for operator/drifter after Duviri?
Evidence being that we are gifted Teshin's swords in the gameplay demo for Duviri. It would be interesting to see and a fun addition to gameplay.

[graceful zodiac]

No. DE flat out said that they do not want operators to have melee/gun options as that causes overlap with the purposes of your frame. It's why Void Blast was changed to quick melee frame summon.

Inside of Duviri, go ham. For regular gameplay, nothing

[dry dragon]

That's a shame :/ I wonder how it'll all tie together at the end. I'm really looking forward to it.

[sullen mortar]

didn’t they fix the archon one shot?

this video was from yesterday

[obtuse gyro]

thats uh not a bug

the archon one shot was in relation to archon just flat out dying to what I think was rad damage

that's just the khek in action

[sullen mortar]

i thought they nerfed it tho

well nvm ima keep using it then lol

[obtuse gyro]

nerfed the khek? never heard of that

[real niche]

What is "it"

[sullen mortar]

not the hek

[sullen mortar]

kuva hek and ivara

[real niche]

No and no

[obtuse gyro]

neither were nerfed

[sullen mortar]

not those being nerfed, but i’m pretty sure they ‘fixed’ the archon 1 shot by buffing it’s health or sum

i dunno nvm lol

[real niche]

They didn't.

[sullen mortar]

Alright. geez

[north trail]

The name "citrine's last wish" implies that this is an update largely centered around the frame in the picture (which I'll assume is called citrine)

[obtuse gyro]

if it indeed is a new frame and not a rhino deluxe

[amber terrace]

Bug boi looks interesting to say the least, maybe not investment levels of interesting, but interesting enough to where I wanna see the shenanigans you can get up to with this new frame

[zenith jacinth]

It definitely looks like rhino

[dark yarrow]

Even themed after a Rhinoceros beetle

[velvet wing]

It has the same cod piece, legs and hands as rhino and it’s clearly designed after a rhinoceros beetle so it’s most likely a Rhino skin

[zenith jacinth]

And the same body

[formal grove]

then again, several male frames have the big pointy cod piece

[supple dagger]

Umbra Rhino
99% confirmed

[hazy fox]

the feet though

[supple dagger]

Looks like a beetle Warframe

[wicked iron]

Umbrhino.

[mellow mesa]

Have you seen what they did to Ember's Pyraxis skin?

[west field]

So I’m not high after all

[zenith jacinth]

.

Rhino beetle. Rhino body. Clearly just a rhino deluxe.

[torpid lantern]

Why is that an umbra?

I thought it was a new archon since those are animals but it's probably just another skin..

[jagged sable]

I think they got the idea that it's an Umbra because of that "U" shaped tip of the horn on his face. Umbra had a bunch of golden "U" shaped prongs that you'd find throughout his body. but Honestly, i think in Rhino's case that's just from the Japanese Rhinoceros beetle aesthetic. they do kinda look similar tho.

[subtle garden]

There is no way we are getting an umbra rhino before umbra volt TBH, so i think it's out of the question

[signal horizon]

I mean there’s also no way we’re getting new Umbra Frames at all since Excalibur Umbra was made just to circumvent Excalibur Prime being locked behind founders but whatever

[subtle garden]

Those are all rhinoceros beetle, take your pick

There is a reason people collect them

They are some of the coolest insect

Alongside ants

[molten atlas]

I hope to Christ it's not a skin we need a bug frame

[supple dagger]

Pretty sure it’s a skin tbh

[summer willow]

At first I thought it was a Gauss skin, but tbh it looks more like Rhino... is kinda sad we still don't have a deluxe skin for Gauss

[supple dagger]

Frrr

Hopefully he gets one around the time Gauss Prime comes out

[minor goblet]

Isnt titania kinda a bug frame?

[wild copper]

fairy frame

[minor goblet]

Ahh ok

[wild copper]

tbh, just looks like a really cool rhino deluxe to me
but a bug frame would be cool
hehe bugframe

[steep delta]

new update is mainline yes?

[graceful zodiac]

Shouldn't be

Next mainline would be Duviri

[steep delta]

i thought it was said somewhere that this was a mainline

let me see if i can find the thread

it was mentioned on reddit that it would be

briefly

[wild wind]

It should be mainline, yeah

[steep delta]

i was right then

[wild wind]

Mainline refers to the big version changes, IE Lua's Prey is mainline 30, Veilbreaker was 29, etc

as opposed to Baruuk Prime being hotfixes and similar

[steep delta]

yes that sounds about right

[wild wind]

as an aside, Citrine's Last Wish makes me laugh because of how much it reminds me of The Witcher

The character Citri and the first short story anthology being titled The Last Wish

[steep delta]

also Destiny 2

the raid Last Wish is a thing

[pseudo sable]

They do need to bump everyone to the new render engine before Duviri comes out so maybe that's happening with this update

[wild wind]

Good thinking.

Does mean that my guess of March-ish for Duviri is likely to be born out though

[obtuse gyro]

Citrine's last wish: we kill a dragon and cetus gets cursed

[torpid lantern]

They said Winter 2023 so I'll definitely be happy for March over Christmas. We'll see on Friday most likely!

[white thistle]

Uh is the #167 stream will be on 9PM Eastern time or Central Europe time?

[river willow]

the message in #announcements should automatically show when it occurs based on your timezone

[white thistle]

Oh, Thank you!

[velvet wing]

I thought they said winter 2022 unless there was a recent update i haven’t seen?

[zenith jacinth]

For duviri they said early 2023 iirc

[north trail]

Honestly I've always thought duviri looks like the dreaming city

Hoping this is the update that finally uses the glowing void orb

There's no way they wouldn't remove it if it was unintentional and it's been in here for almost 6 months now right?

A pre duviri quest would be sick tho

If it was the orb that would kinda mean it's after sacrifice which I don't really see happening

[fleet veldt]

The major quests we've had 'til now had prelude/prologue quests, if DE does any pre-Duviri quests they'll likely try to skirt around Duviri itself to make its discovery a truly 'huh? wha-?' experience in the same vein as how Second Dream had us baffled at our... humanity.

[bleak minnow]

Hello everyone, can I post an image of the new Warframe here? Is it a meme or something similar?

[steady gate]

We don’t know what it is yet

[thick jolt]

If you mean the probable rhino skin we have pictures of it in the #announcements channel

[bleak minnow]

hoo ty bro

[north trail]

I'm still doubtful about it being a skin

Because if it's a skin then who is citrine

[real niche]

...it'd be called Rhino Citrine

Like how every Deluxe isn't just called "[frame] Deluxe"

[north trail]

If a prime frame isn't considered mainline then why would an update seemingly about a single skin be

[zenith jacinth]

Or perhaps citrine is some other person, because there is no way in hek that the bugframe isn't a rhino skin

[fluid igloo]

Did my first arbitration today

😄

[steady gate]

not exactly a spoiler thing
Also, where’s the Vitis essence

[glossy lagoon]

Good job now do more

[fluid igloo]

It was further down, and im wasnt sure if it counted as a spoiler because it is considered endgame type stuff

I was avoiding arbitrations until I was a bit stronger but I just started using the amprex and its absolutely insane lol

that gun mixed with Xakus first ability is pretty sick

[supple dagger]

Ballas is so well written. Makes me want to actually join Narmer.

https://tenor.com/view/ballas-warframe-narmer-gif-24413311

Love that scene

[north trail]

Or maybe that's a skin but there's another new frame (citrine)

Apparently citrine is a gem thought to bring luck

And its name has greek origins

Technically fits the theme of prologue names so far (fancy greek words and "prologue")

Anyways whoever citrine is what's their last wish

My guess is it probably has to do with wally

[zenith jacinth]

Spoilers only concern story stuff

[north trail]

Unless the whole thing is some leverian side story

Which would be cool but not about wally

[near rune]

Deluxe skins sometimes come with Leverians (Nova, Ivara), so my prediction is Citrine is someone from Rhino's new Leverian story.

Just like the Gauss update was called "Saint of Altra"

[peak tendon]

From the most recent tweet: "report on Durivi development and much more!"
Not Duviri?

[flat shadow]

Looks like a new frame. Maybe a new skin. We'll see.

[peak tendon]

Quite a name to choose if so

[pseudo sable]

It's a mainline update so I'm half expecting them to push everyone to the new render engine so they can get feedback on it before Duviri

since they did say they'd need to do that because duviri uses a ton of features from it

[signal horizon]

Wait it’s spelled Duviri? All this time I’ve been spelling it Duvriri

[flat shadow]

Yeah. Just one R.

[ionic dew]

Can I talk leaks

[steady gate]

if it’s taken from the code, I don’t think so

[obtuse gyro]

With how transparent DE usually is Im surprised people still can find/want leaks

[zenith jacinth]

Humanity is impatient

[flat shadow]

Depends what you mean by 'leak'. Datamined information? No. Something that DE accidentally let slip during a community or dev stream? yeah.

[ionic dew]

Ok nvm then

[tiny ibex]

I got a question, getting to the choice of Lotus' name

if I choose Margulis, will this also change Operator lines inside the regular missions?

for example when the Operator says "For the Lotus", would sound a bit off if we chose either Natah or Margulis

[obtuse gyro]

no that wont change

[tiny ibex]

I see, shame

[plain gale]

Wonder if there are any new warframe coming soon

[thick jolt]

.....

[obtuse gyro]

Citrine in february

[plain gale]

Oh ok that’s good to know

Thanks

[zenith jacinth]

Was it confirmed to be the name of a frame?

[velvet wing]

Yup

[zenith jacinth]

I see

[next bronze]

Possibly her crystals act similar to Nova's orbs?

[velvet wing]

Weirdly they didn’t go into how her abilities work similarly to how they did with Voruna ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[north hamlet]

I completed the Sacrifice and my... my god I am speechless

Oh, that's just perfect foreshadowing

[zenith jacinth]

It peaks at the sacrifice imo

Doesn't get much worse, but doesn't stay at quite the same level either

[zenith jacinth]

The only songs with vocals are corpus-related, which automatically makes corpus the best faction

[hushed vine]

Bruh
I'd take the Corpus any time
Tenet vs Kuva? TENET
Lich vs Sister? Sister
Get those faulty clone trooper lookin butts outta here
Gimme those robo-capitalists!

[zenith jacinth]

I'm using the corpus theme for hp and stuff, fortuna for the menus

[hushed vine]

(But I still would love to see Grineer Warframe,
DE, hear my plea)

[zenith jacinth]

Also, corpus has a bfg and the grineer don't

[hushed vine]

But grineer have pirate cannon and a big bonker
I'd take those too
Although I am currently racing to MR 14 for the Tenet Agendus

[zenith jacinth]

I got to MR16 for the exec and then just kinda stopped

I'm still ranking new stuff, but I'm not as focused on it anymore

[wicked iron]

No memes in the server, please. 🙂

[jagged granite]

citrine looks scarily similar to a void angel. just without all the void lol

playing through tnw again and it just hit me

[wicked iron]

I thought she looked bug-like, with those big mandibles.

[jagged granite]

i mostly mean the splitting down her body, its like the exact pattern

[wicked iron]

Ah, gotcha.

[simple moss]

ngl. I'm still bothered she's not orange. A purple citrine is an amethyst. Gonna be over here being a grumpy jewellery nerd. XP

[zenith jacinth]

How did I not know that yet

Now I'm disappointed in myself

[simple moss]

To be fair, I work with these things for a living. lol

[zenith jacinth]

And I like gems and everything shiny

I should know at least simple stuff about the things I like

[surreal smelt]

people will still point it out when that new frame comes out, unless it gets a slight change

[chilly topaz]

Hey so why isnt the ipad pro m1 not a choice on ios?

[cyan crest]

You can't share those here

[wicked iron]

Please do not mention leaked content in the server.

[cyan crest]

I think the first guy was warning people of it in case they got accidentally spoiled

[frail nymph]

Oh no there's leaked content? I hope it's not about Duviri I don't want spoilers from random scrolling

[lime citrus]

Frames are diseased super humans infected with a super virus

Makes their skin like sword steel

@gaunt lark

[supple dagger]

oh so all the time im playing as a hospital patient who’s way stronger

[gaunt lark]

This is no spoiler 🗿

[supple dagger]

i love playing as sick and dying people thats why i put so much time into rdr2

oh

arent we a little cruel then for using dead people for our own business

like i dont wanna play as someone’s dead father just because he shoots a lot of people and its fun

isnt mercy good

[lime citrus]

That’s what umbra is

[supple dagger]

umbra can die he an opp

[lime citrus]

Umbra was a confirmed dad before the got the covidius

[wild wind]

there's basically no way to really destroy a Warframe. Their consciousness is tied even to their scraps.

[supple dagger]

what did they even get infected by

[lime citrus]

Infestation

[supple dagger]

oh

[wild wind]

The Helminth infestation strain

[lime citrus]

A mutant strand of those enemies you keep killing like tissue paper

[supple dagger]

damn so when im fighting infestation im being racist?

[wild wind]

That's a big part of why we Tenno chose to go into hibernation after wiping out the Orokin

[supple dagger]

that’s crazy

[lime citrus]

No you’re committing homocide

[wild wind]

While we slept so did they

[supple dagger]

that’s cool ig sleeping is nice

mostly i only see them growling and hurling

and burning occasionally

[lime citrus]

We embrace you. Why do you defile us

[supple dagger]

if they embrace me why do some of them grapple me and make me trip

like bro just hug me its not that hard

[lime citrus]

A grapple is a very aggressive embrace with deadly intentions

[supple dagger]

damn im gonna embrace more people then just need a damn rope

[frail nymph]

(Not actually true at all)

All you need to do to destroy a frame is to kill one without an operator controlling it or destroy its body well enough to avoid the revive system or just keep killing it till there's no more juice in the system.

Once any of those three conditions is met, that frame is dead dead.

[supple dagger]

have we ever been presented with a dead frame?

[frail nymph]

Original Umbra is dead

Also some trailers

[steady gate]

Mirage. Limbo.

Also Gara

[frail nymph]

Yea if you count stories then all the leverians lol

[steady gate]

Not all. I think only two leverians killed their frames

Atlas and Nezha, if I recall. Maybe not even Nezha

[frail nymph]

Right I guess I was actually thinking about quest frames

[supple dagger]

oh i don’t remember seeing any of those

[steady gate]

atlas also died prior to his quest

man Atlas keeps dying

[supple dagger]

poor boxer guy

[graceful zodiac]

We have no confirmation of any death beyond Mirage and Gara

[steady gate]

We definitely have Atlas’s confirmed death. Jordas tells us he failed to defeat ‘the golem’, and he can give us Atlas’s parts.

Limbo was torn to shreds from a poor equation.

Actually, Inaros died defending the mars settlers.

There’s no Gara or Mirage leverian, can’t be

[graceful zodiac]

No, I just completely blanked on quests

So yeah. Atlas, Gara, Mirage, Limbo, Titania, Inaros

[steady gate]

I guess we kill Mesa and Revenant

[supple dagger]

would be nice to have an actual body instead of disappearing into blue glitter or whatever

[frail nymph]

That's just a videogame mechanic. Everything everywhere in the game despawns

[steady gate]

Sanitation systems, probably. Possibly from either fear of infestation or just the Orokin hating seeing corpses and it becoming ingrained

Oh, gamewise definitely just a mechanic

[supple dagger]

nah but doesn’t even need to be an actual like NPC enemy dead just a map model

idk just add a excalibur umbra without an arm and being impaled in the chest with a spear

and hes being held on a wall because of the spear

something cool ig

[frail nymph]

There's one in New War

[steady gate]

There’s also that Loki in Second Dream

[supple dagger]

gotta play new war to see the bodies then

unfortunately that’ll take ages since i need the mech

[frail nymph]

Yeah about a week if you haven't touched Deimos yet

[steady gate]

Or just whenever Oculysts show up

[supple dagger]

ive done a little bit of deimos but not vaults

i have like one mech part

[frail nymph]

A couple more vaults should be enough then. Parts are dirt cheap so just buy the last ones.

Oh wait you probably don't have access to tier 3

[supple dagger]

wdym?

ik there’s tiers i don’t remember having a special requirement for them though

[near rune]

Tiers for the Iso Vaults just need to be completed in sequence. So you need to do a Tier I Iso Vault, and you get access to Tier II forever. You need to do Tier II to get access to Tier III forever. The tiers are identical in mission except the number of Necramechs you need to kill (1, 2, or 3) and possibly enemy level, not sure.

[balmy badger]

Higher level enemies, and also take place at different locations on the map.

[winged trench]

Hey.. In New war where the drifter is introduced. What s the reticule window?

[zenith jacinth]

Specify?

I don't really know what you mean

[winged trench]

I don't know how to open it

It says press r in the reticular menu

I don't know what to do I press r nothing happens

[thick jolt]

The special shot of the sirroco

[zenith jacinth]

While reloading the gun, press reload again in the little window to overcharge the 1st shot

[halcyon hull]

I found a very Bizzare bug in Warframe little while ago

[winged trench]

Yeh?

[halcyon hull]

It’s sending still

Been sending for over 15mins

And it just reset bc of slow mode

Gonna take another 15mins to send the bug

[steady gate]

…what are you sending? A video?

[halcyon hull]

Yea

A 38second video

It happened 2 times in the same mission and when I killed the enemy that was causing the bug it transferred to another enemy

Finally it sent

I’ve never seen this happen

[steady gate]

I…honestly can’t tell what I’m supposed to be looking at

[supple dagger]

clean ur ps4 bro

[zenith jacinth]

Why are the plains gliders in a regular mission

[glossy lagoon]

Lol

[halcyon hull]

Bro do you not see the dargyns and the one constantly respawning wherever one of the grineer move

[steady gate]

That’s just Dargyns being weird. Game can’t really handle them on that map; it’s been like that since War Within released

[zenith jacinth]

Why do they spawn there

[steady gate]

Probably because they’re set to use both intended spawn locations and anywhere viable afterwards; they drift out of the map really easily

[zenith jacinth]

But why the fortress, I've never seen them there

[steady gate]

Assault.

They ONLY spawn in assault

[near rune]

They've been at the Kuva Fortress since Kuva Fortress was released. From Update 19 patch notes: "With this set, we knew we wanted to provide an awe-inspiring entry into the world of the Grineer Queens and Kuva. This set is complete with the latest in graphics enhancements like Volumetric Lighting, and includes some of the first ever Archwing Enemy incorporation into foot missions. Don't forget to aim up, Tenno."

[steady gate]

It just happens to be a meh mission on an annoying tileset that people don’t really go to

[halcyon hull]

But they’re not even supposed to be in non archeing missions

[steady gate]

they specifically spawn in that one mission. Look at their name. It’s a custom variant

[halcyon hull]

Can’t read their names

One of em was a lich thrall

[thick jolt]

dunno if you ever noticed but the kuva fortress itself is tagged as archwing just like uranus
its why tellurium drops there

[halcyon hull]

I havnt noticed but if it is there should be an area to use it when don’t think U can

[white thistle]

They are suppose to spawn in there x)

[heavy stump]

Hey who can I talk to about eidolon hunts I got a few questions about it that might be spoiler related

Ah alright

I keep seeing on videos where they shoot the head and it deals damage to the head?? I’m just curious on how to replicate that of did I miss something

I’m working on perfecting my runs and what always gets me on time is my shield placements and losing the synoids (don’t know how to spell it) from view

I seen in some videos showing that but I tried experimenting I couldn’t figure it out

[steady gate]

Linking one of the videos (or explaining more on when they shoot the head) might let us give more information

[halcyon hull]

I’ve never seen them spawn in the fortress

[steady gate]

They literally only in the Assault mission

[supple dagger]

I full died in an archon hunt mission and it said "you no longer qualify for mission completion or rewards" can this happen????

[flat shadow]

Yes

[supple dagger]

That's stupid as Darvo

[flat shadow]

I mean. Makes sense. You're dead. You'd trigger the AFK anyway.

[frail nymph]

Yeah you're not supposed to die in Archon hunts, it's kinda the point

[zenith jacinth]

That's on the last eidolon

There's 3, each having more synovia to break

[sharp spoke]

So, I wasn't able to watch the last devstream - what's the timeframe lookin' like on duviri nowadays? I see it appears we'll be getting a new Warframe before it releases

[wild wind]

March/April

[sharp spoke]

Gotcha, thanks

[wild wind]

The dedicated devstream will be in February if it helps

[heavy stump]

Ohhhh alright thank you

[white thistle]

Can't wait for that stream, i bet there's been lots of efforts put into Duviri's 🤩

[bitter stag]

Considering there's a Narmer version of the wolf, does anyone think he would come back for a future night
wave season?

[wicked iron]

I think he is eventually going to be freed and join Kahl's Garrison. In the original Veilbreaker trailer, we saw Kahl removing the Wolf's Veil.

[graceful zodiac]

We shouldn't be, given the implication of the Wolf fight is that Kahl kills him

[obtuse gyro]

really? I thought the health bar not depleting and wolfie going poof was indication he dipped?

[signal horizon]

Before you fully drain the wolf’s health he leaves

I think he might also had the revive symbol on him last time I fought him but that was probably one of my guys close to him or sum, either way we never got the chance to break his veil

[obtuse gyro]

that was one of your guys

[zenith jacinth]

Kahl says that he can't free him from the veil, but can still free him from suffering

[bitter stag]

I’m just amazed how he survives Saturn six breakout, survives Alad V torturing his mind with amalgam technology, but he can’t outrun narmer. I thought he left the system by the solar rail

[zenith jacinth]

Well, he's just barely alive when we fight him in the veilbreaker mission. He's essentially like an rpg barbarian that's literally too angry to die

[bitter stag]

The one who keeps getting away

[zenith jacinth]

Kept*

[obtuse gyro]

well yes, but I took it from how the fight ended that kahl failed to free wolfie from existence

[near rune]

He can't leave the System. The only Rail that leaves the System is the Rail to Tau, which was destroyed in the Old War.

[fluid igloo]

Would this be worth anything or shall I roll?

[wild wind]

I don't think so since it's a kitgun

But that's an extremely solid verminsplicer riven since you can chain even more enemies with that punchthrough

[median iris]

You know, I don't think now is the right time for music:

My friend is the source of this screenshot. Basically, he realized he could emote during the fight, tried to use his Shawzin and Nira did her grab attack right as he did so, and for the rest of the fight, he had the Shawzin in his hand alongside the Nataruk xD

[worn briar]

It is always time for music

[median iris]

^ Here is the man responsible for the screenshot lol

[undone forge]

I mean bard is a strong class so this is a good tactic I think

[jagged sable]

smacks Nira with Shawzin
Time to face the music

[onyx cobalt]

okay so, i dunno if this is spoilery so it goes here, but- ||In the sacrifice, ballas says that Umbras kids will 'all follow in his path', and that each stone taken would be another descendant culled from his bloodline. That- This might be a bit of a reach, but that sounds like ballas is saying he used umbras kids and such as more warframe test subjects.||

[near rune]

No, Ballas says that they've gone to the Jade Light, which was an execution that completely obliterated the victim. They couldn't have been turned into warframes; they were just killed in order to hurt Umbra.
Also, I don't think you need to use spoiler text in the spoiler channel.

[onyx cobalt]

Ah oaky.

[woven wedge]

The Wolf somehow disappeared with no reason after his health was obliterated, do I assume he's dead?

[shut mica]

With Citrine coming tomorrow, will Yonta no longer trade Lua thrax plasm?

1st of February, no?

[wild copper]

pretty sure star days comes tomorrow, not the full update

[signal horizon]

No, the vendor for Citrine is Otak

[zenith jacinth]

You think wrong

[zenith jacinth]

Reason

[shut mica]

I mean will Yonta still have the Lua Thrax Plasm store or will it be closed

[signal horizon]

why would it close?

[white thistle]

Uh speaking of it, Did they mentioned when Citrine's update releasing?

[graceful zodiac]

Just in February

[frail nymph]

No the latter two have the same amount

[frail nymph]

The objective was to kill him, but the Wolf leaves well before taking fatal damage either way.

Just because you go to Earth to kill Vay Hek doesn't mean he fails to escape. Same for Stalker and Acolytes.

[frail nymph]

Health never goes to zero... Not even 10% I think

[supple dagger]

i have some questions about New War, is it hard? are the missions good? what new content do i unlock?

[past meadow]

imo the missions are really good
you unlock a few new quests and it opens up your game in good ways

[supple dagger]

yeah i thought so, i haven’t played since sevagoth came out, and i feel like im missing out on those “Archon” things and just now i heard about the drifter, new types of weapons and something about Margulis

[past meadow]

just play it its good 👍
I finished it in one session took me about 4.5/5 hours

[supple dagger]

yeah i still need to build the mech, these deimos ores are annoying to get because of the standing requirement

[past meadow]

yea i just bought the finished parts from another player for 60 mats

[zenith jacinth]

I bought a voidrig (that was before the free bp set)